How HP Murray Built a Quail Operation: Imports, Brooder Houses, Automatic Waterers & Quail Math
Backyard Chickens & Coturnix Quail: Incubating Hatching Eggs and Chicken Breeding
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In this episode of the Poultry Nerds Podcast, we sit down with HP Murray of Gopher Ridge Farms for an honest, behind-the-scenes conversation about raising quail, building efficient farm systems, and how quail math can turn a small hobby into a full-time operation.
HP shares his journey from growing up on a farm, stepping away from agriculture, and then returning to it through quail after retirement. From early brooding mistakes to importing German quail lines, this episode is packed with real-world experience you won’t find in a textbook.
Topics covered in this episode include:
- How HP got started raising quail and what he learned the hard way
- Why quail quickly become a 7-day-a-week commitment
- Importing quail eggs from Germany and introducing new genetics
- Building your own quail lines through selection instead of constantly adding “new blood”
- Designing a brooder house for heat, ventilation, and ammonia control
- Moving away from stacked cages to a low-maintenance, one-level cage system
- Why automatic waterers can dramatically reduce daily labor
- Raising and managing gamebirds like chukars and bobwhites
- Lessons learned from decades of breeding, hatching, and scaling production
Whether you raise quail for eggs, meat, breeding, or business, this episode offers practical insight from someone who has lived it—mistakes, successes, and all.
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WEBVTT 00:00:41.410 --> 00:00:42.549 Poultry nerds. 00:00:42.549 --> 00:00:50.409 We are here with the one, the only, yeah, we did HP Murray from Gopher Ridge Farms. 00:00:51.909 --> 00:00:56.539 How are we Held him down and beat him until he joined us. 00:00:57.539 --> 00:00:58.799 And then we lost him. 00:00:59.754 --> 00:01:03.240 Yeah, I think he's there now. 00:01:04.240 --> 00:01:04.870 How are you? 00:01:04.870 --> 00:01:05.650 Hp? 00:01:06.650 --> 00:01:10.064 Well, tell us about yourself and tell us how you're doing today. 00:01:11.064 --> 00:01:12.265 Tolerably tired. 00:01:13.734 --> 00:01:14.814 I'm doing great. 00:01:16.254 --> 00:01:18.405 Just been a long day. 00:01:18.914 --> 00:01:19.305 Y'all doing? 00:01:21.645 --> 00:01:22.365 I'm doing pretty good. 00:01:23.365 --> 00:01:28.344 Well, we were hoping you were gonna tell us about your backstory and how you got started in quail. 00:01:29.344 --> 00:01:29.825 Okay. 00:01:29.914 --> 00:01:32.064 Maybe I can remember that far back. 00:01:32.640 --> 00:01:35.210 Um, it was really. 00:01:36.210 --> 00:01:46.510 And as a young teenager and adult, we we quail hunted and we also trapped a lot of quail. 00:01:46.510 --> 00:01:49.799 We ate them as much as we did chicken. 00:01:50.534 --> 00:01:53.275 And so I knew about'em as a youngster. 00:01:53.275 --> 00:01:56.784 And then of course I decided I didn't want to farm. 00:01:56.875 --> 00:01:59.140 And I went in the insurance business and left the farm. 00:02:00.084 --> 00:02:06.495 And when I got ready to retire, I I said, I'm gonna get me some quail just to have to eat. 00:02:06.584 --> 00:02:08.594 I'll have time to take care of'em now. 00:02:09.014 --> 00:02:12.224 Didn't do any research, didn't do anything. 00:02:12.224 --> 00:02:14.985 And cix are not my wife's. 00:02:15.915 --> 00:02:28.694 And so I ordered me 100 chicks and they come and I'm going to brood them just like you would chickens. 00:02:29.715 --> 00:02:33.675 I get me a hundred watt night bulb and put them in there, stick'em out in the open. 00:02:35.084 --> 00:02:36.405 I get up tomorrow. 00:02:36.735 --> 00:02:39.074 I've got about eight or 10 left out of a hundred. 00:02:40.724 --> 00:02:42.194 They've all frozen to death. 00:02:42.795 --> 00:02:44.534 Well, I raised eight. 00:02:45.134 --> 00:02:46.665 That's what I wound up with. 00:02:46.724 --> 00:02:54.435 And somehow I got in touch with Robbie at James Marie Farms and got to talking with him. 00:02:55.574 --> 00:02:58.694 And of course, y'all know Robbie. 00:02:58.694 --> 00:03:01.295 He he done me like we've done a lot of other people. 00:03:01.295 --> 00:03:03.029 He put me in the business, right? 00:03:04.420 --> 00:03:08.064 And I got my first edge from him. 00:03:09.175 --> 00:03:16.154 And then as it began to unravel, I say I looked in about two years. 00:03:16.230 --> 00:03:19.004 I, I didn't have cages originally. 00:03:19.110 --> 00:03:21.605 I just did ha area, I guess is what you call it. 00:03:21.605 --> 00:03:29.274 I had two 50 foot long, 12 foot wide pens, and I just pulled on the ground. 00:03:30.295 --> 00:03:33.235 And the next thing I know that I had about 2000 birds. 00:03:34.254 --> 00:03:36.654 And I said, whoa, what am I doing? 00:03:37.314 --> 00:03:37.704 Mm-hmm. 00:03:38.545 --> 00:03:46.129 And it was all white birds at that, all Texas a and s that we don't have anymore, but I won't go there. 00:03:46.764 --> 00:03:55.699 Anyway I decided then I say I was talking with Robbie and he was putting thing, one thing in one ear and something was coming out, the other one. 00:03:55.699 --> 00:03:59.464 And I finally got some browns from somebody locally. 00:03:59.464 --> 00:04:04.110 And and then I got some from a boy in Tennessee. 00:04:04.439 --> 00:04:08.279 And I started, I crossed those out and started my own line. 00:04:08.279 --> 00:04:17.240 And of course in LA I say later on I got some of Robbie's j mfs and then I started I don't know whether y'all remember him or not, but Mr. 00:04:17.240 --> 00:04:20.930 Vale that used to have veils quail at Wisconsin. 00:04:22.339 --> 00:04:25.699 I bought some snowflakes from eggs from him. 00:04:26.750 --> 00:04:32.720 And when he sent me, sent'em in the phone, I says, oh, that's how they do this. 00:04:33.709 --> 00:04:39.410 And so from there I say that was before even Robbie, I guess. 00:04:39.970 --> 00:04:45.129 I started putting a few in a little home and let see if I could sell'em. 00:04:45.129 --> 00:04:49.509 So I get on Facebook and this went on for several years. 00:04:49.509 --> 00:04:57.625 And then finally it just evolved into seven days a week, 24 7. 00:04:58.485 --> 00:05:01.834 And I look at these people y'all tell me how to do it. 00:05:02.414 --> 00:05:10.694 I see these people that have a full-time job and they talk about how many eggs they're shipping a year. 00:05:11.324 --> 00:05:12.974 I don't got a full-time job. 00:05:12.974 --> 00:05:13.844 Mm-hmm. 00:05:13.904 --> 00:05:15.854 And I know how many eggs I'm shipping a year. 00:05:16.245 --> 00:05:21.719 I wouldn't have time to work and do what some of these people said they're doing. 00:05:22.389 --> 00:05:23.680 I just, I don't know. 00:05:23.680 --> 00:05:30.245 I mean, I guess I done got old slow, but like I say, mine just evolved in the, what it is. 00:05:30.334 --> 00:05:39.284 And of course everybody knows once you start hatching I mean, you know, meth is nothing compared to hatching cix. 00:05:39.284 --> 00:05:41.229 And so, I That is so true. 00:05:41.229 --> 00:05:42.189 I've been doing it ever since. 00:05:42.370 --> 00:05:50.064 And I guess when they put me down there beside the wife, I have to quit, but it won't be because I wanted to. 00:05:51.610 --> 00:05:53.550 And that's basically where I came from. 00:05:54.550 --> 00:05:56.169 So you've been doing this for a while? 00:05:58.419 --> 00:05:59.529 Oh yeah. 00:05:59.579 --> 00:06:02.240 I did leave some of my imports out, didn't I? 00:06:02.810 --> 00:06:04.794 That's actually what I was fixing to ask you about. 00:06:06.834 --> 00:06:07.164 Mr. 00:06:07.164 --> 00:06:11.425 Kaya, I believe is the way he pronounce his name in Germany. 00:06:12.044 --> 00:06:20.654 He and I and William Foster we were always talking to each other on Facebook. 00:06:20.654 --> 00:06:26.084 We, when William started he started with me for whatever reason, I don't know. 00:06:26.754 --> 00:06:29.404 And he got a lot of birds from me. 00:06:29.404 --> 00:06:33.894 And then he started talking about importation. 00:06:33.985 --> 00:06:40.849 And I'd done talk to Robbie about importation and I knew how difficult that could be. 00:06:40.909 --> 00:06:50.519 And so, one day I get this call from my postman at the post office and he said, I got about an egg box of eggs for you. 00:06:51.539 --> 00:06:53.490 I said, no, I ain't bought any eggs. 00:06:54.394 --> 00:06:56.039 And he said, well, I got some up here. 00:06:56.039 --> 00:06:57.990 I said, okay, I'll be up there in a few minutes. 00:06:57.990 --> 00:06:58.110 And. 00:06:58.914 --> 00:07:06.324 Kay told me he had sent me some of them, but now mind you, he sent'em on Thanksgiving Day, that's when he messaged me. 00:07:06.954 --> 00:07:07.974 Thanksgiving day. 00:07:08.675 --> 00:07:08.704 Oh. 00:07:09.214 --> 00:07:11.164 This is December the 31st. 00:07:12.394 --> 00:07:12.485 Oh, wow. 00:07:13.625 --> 00:07:17.169 And so I go to the post office and I got the video. 00:07:17.529 --> 00:07:21.935 I can upload the video and show everybody me opening that box of eggs. 00:07:23.014 --> 00:07:31.414 There was 140 eggs and I had some, I don't remember the exact number, but it was between 30 or 40 of them. 00:07:32.735 --> 00:07:34.925 And those zigs, that's not bad. 00:07:34.939 --> 00:07:38.379 I got the sparkly Pharaoh German sparkly Pharaoh. 00:07:39.180 --> 00:07:45.634 I got the German sparkly Italian and the gentleman Pearl, sparkly Pearl. 00:07:46.594 --> 00:07:49.029 And I, you know, I knew. 00:07:49.824 --> 00:08:01.604 William was talking about it, and I talked with him about it, but I really weren't, you know, I wasn't expecting until he, to he kind of, message me and said, eggs is in the mail. 00:08:02.294 --> 00:08:04.594 And so I I'm gonna get in trouble. 00:08:05.284 --> 00:08:19.375 I turned around and he didn't have game birds as we have in the United States, so I boxed him up, used the same phone that he sent mine in 140. 00:08:19.375 --> 00:08:31.375 I sent him Bob Whites, chuckers, and pheasants, and of course I'm doing it, you know, they go through customs in New York. 00:08:31.375 --> 00:08:32.095 I said, okay. 00:08:32.095 --> 00:08:32.575 Got it made. 00:08:33.169 --> 00:08:33.590 Mm-hmm. 00:08:33.669 --> 00:08:36.115 Lo and behold, I get a notice in Miami. 00:08:36.985 --> 00:08:41.154 They went through customs in Miami a few days later. 00:08:41.904 --> 00:08:45.534 Well, several days later I get a update. 00:08:45.595 --> 00:08:46.975 They're in Frankfurt, Germany. 00:08:47.455 --> 00:08:51.120 I said, oh boy I got him from Game Birds now. 00:08:52.200 --> 00:08:56.879 Kept waiting for him to miss me to see he got his eggs and it rocked on about a week. 00:08:57.389 --> 00:08:58.169 No, I ain't got'em. 00:08:58.169 --> 00:08:59.389 I said, well, they're in Germany. 00:08:59.389 --> 00:09:00.585 I don't why you ain't getting them. 00:09:01.399 --> 00:09:03.340 And he says, yeah, I can see where they're at. 00:09:04.450 --> 00:09:11.169 And then, you know, a few days later, my same mailman calls me, got a box of eggs up in for you. 00:09:12.639 --> 00:09:13.689 No, I ain't ordered any. 00:09:14.439 --> 00:09:15.669 I got a box of eggs up in for you. 00:09:16.715 --> 00:09:19.899 I go pick up the eggs and it's my eggs. 00:09:19.899 --> 00:09:32.830 I sent him, they had opened them in Germany, saw what it was, taped them up with their custom tape and just returned them to me. 00:09:34.029 --> 00:09:34.720 They said a word. 00:09:35.199 --> 00:09:37.439 You know, I'm sitting there when I look in that box. 00:09:38.009 --> 00:09:39.149 I said, where's the handcuffs? 00:09:39.389 --> 00:09:40.424 Because I know I'm going. 00:09:41.365 --> 00:09:49.389 But I have taken those and I got some really messed up colors from them. 00:09:49.490 --> 00:09:55.730 I didn't understand and still don't, I'm not sharp as facts and the wood pile. 00:09:55.819 --> 00:10:05.600 So, when it comes to genetics and I kept crossing it out until I have just about every color that we had in the us. 00:10:05.600 --> 00:10:07.669 I got sparkly jeans in it now. 00:10:08.509 --> 00:10:18.799 And of course I didn't realize when I was doing all this, it makes pretty birds the way it changes the patterns on the everything. 00:10:18.949 --> 00:10:24.350 But there again, like I say, I didn't know nothing about homozygous and heterozygous. 00:10:24.350 --> 00:10:26.720 I guess had, could turn it squeal from Germany. 00:10:27.470 --> 00:10:29.210 And I now have. 00:10:30.014 --> 00:10:32.919 Well, like I say, I've got'em, I got'em in Egyptians. 00:10:32.919 --> 00:10:34.149 I got'em in Italians. 00:10:34.149 --> 00:10:37.659 I got'em in, I got'em in Pharaoh. 00:10:38.019 --> 00:10:40.419 I don't have them in PZ yet. 00:10:40.480 --> 00:10:41.710 I hadn't even tried that one. 00:10:42.330 --> 00:10:46.129 They're enough trouble as they are on now, but I've got it. 00:10:46.399 --> 00:10:51.319 I've got it pretty well introduced to my entire line in some form. 00:10:51.379 --> 00:10:57.049 And you read, you know, some people say why you want to do that. 00:10:57.169 --> 00:11:01.309 Well, if you familiar with the German line, it's all together. 00:11:01.519 --> 00:11:06.559 It's a different bird than what we've known in the States. 00:11:06.559 --> 00:11:10.779 It's even different from, they're different from Robbie's, JMF. 00:11:10.840 --> 00:11:11.689 They just I don't know. 00:11:11.689 --> 00:11:13.264 They just have a plumper breast. 00:11:13.264 --> 00:11:14.254 Rounder breast. 00:11:14.254 --> 00:11:18.240 And to me I like that big breast, when you pick him up. 00:11:18.240 --> 00:11:20.309 I don't want that breastbone cutting my fingers. 00:11:20.309 --> 00:11:23.250 And they seem to be a, have a different structure. 00:11:23.250 --> 00:11:32.409 So I've tried to, you know, get as much as I could of the German in without just getting it, everything messed up with sparkly. 00:11:32.500 --> 00:11:40.899 I mean, I've got stuff that's not, but I mean, I'm still working with it to to get the blood and not get that particular gene, if that, if you understand what I'm saying. 00:11:41.564 --> 00:11:41.985 Mm-hmm. 00:11:42.309 --> 00:11:45.460 And that, that, that's the story on my Germans. 00:11:45.539 --> 00:11:49.080 And I still, I got blacks out of that. 00:11:49.199 --> 00:11:49.590 You noticed. 00:11:49.590 --> 00:11:50.370 I left that out. 00:11:51.299 --> 00:12:01.980 I got blacks out of it and they were the worst genetically of anything I'd ever seen. 00:12:02.399 --> 00:12:06.000 And I haven't I have yet. 00:12:07.169 --> 00:12:08.549 And I've had these, what. 00:12:08.909 --> 00:12:12.269 I got'em in nine 19 or 20. 00:12:12.269 --> 00:12:13.259 I can't remember. 00:12:13.500 --> 00:12:30.830 I'd have to go back and look at the videos, but I have shipped some of the eggs, but I have not posted them on my website to yet, because I'm just now getting them to where they're a decent bird. 00:12:31.789 --> 00:12:33.439 They've always bred true. 00:12:34.279 --> 00:12:35.699 But they were just small. 00:12:36.240 --> 00:12:40.710 They didn't, I just, they just weren't my birds. 00:12:40.769 --> 00:12:45.799 And so I kept on for sentiment reasons and invested the fortune in them. 00:12:45.799 --> 00:12:47.460 And I've got'em. 00:12:47.580 --> 00:12:49.470 I may sell some this year. 00:12:49.470 --> 00:12:50.034 I don't know. 00:12:50.039 --> 00:13:02.939 I ain't made up my mind yet other than not just sometime I'll throw some in for somebody for just a special occasion, you know, not that I'm trying to market them because, i'm yet to find them of that quality, to be honest with you. 00:13:04.289 --> 00:13:08.360 But everything else I got from Germany was good quality. 00:13:08.360 --> 00:13:15.559 And I was surprised at that age of egg hatching, you know, even at 20%. 00:13:16.039 --> 00:13:17.870 So, I was thrilled with it. 00:13:18.414 --> 00:13:18.835 Mm-hmm. 00:13:19.215 --> 00:13:21.125 And that's that's where we was at. 00:13:22.125 --> 00:13:27.085 I mean, that's fantastic from going overseas like that and back. 00:13:27.715 --> 00:13:31.549 And for that many days you had a pretty good hatch with those. 00:13:32.549 --> 00:13:49.240 Well, I say the, my Pharaoh and stuff like I say, is primarily I've only I've only got eggs from that weren't my eggs from three people since I've been in the business. 00:13:50.110 --> 00:13:52.179 I got some from you, Jennifer. 00:13:53.090 --> 00:13:59.759 I got some from Michael one time, and of course from Robbie. 00:14:00.240 --> 00:14:14.904 And what I have done, like I say I have just developed my own, you know, I've just like you guys, I've just selected and bred and crossed and, you know, when people ask me, you know, I, I need new blood. 00:14:15.865 --> 00:14:20.875 Well, if you sit up, right, I don't necessarily condone you need new blood. 00:14:21.595 --> 00:14:23.574 If you're not, yeah, I understand. 00:14:23.574 --> 00:14:30.639 But when, like I say, when you got many versions, we have I, I don't see mixing something else in with it. 00:14:30.639 --> 00:14:36.460 And like I told you when I got the the Pharaoh from you, I wanted them for a purpose. 00:14:36.460 --> 00:14:41.054 And and I've got two eggs from'em or so far. 00:14:41.054 --> 00:14:41.085 Okay. 00:14:41.715 --> 00:14:43.784 So they fixing the fire up pretty quick. 00:14:43.784 --> 00:14:47.154 I I got a whole, a complete cage of'em. 00:14:47.154 --> 00:14:47.965 I don't remember. 00:14:48.014 --> 00:14:48.794 I don't count. 00:14:48.965 --> 00:14:50.419 That's illegal to count quail. 00:14:51.919 --> 00:14:59.259 But but I say I my lines as you can say about yours, and I'm curious, say about his, and they're mine. 00:14:59.259 --> 00:15:09.220 I made them, I give, I, I say I give Robbie a lot of credit not for my birds per se, but for his tutelage of me and and the way he helped me along the way. 00:15:09.220 --> 00:15:20.409 And because, like I say, I went in it blindsided, not knowing anything nor intended to, to do this at the scale I'm doing it. 00:15:20.529 --> 00:15:29.449 And, um, quail math hits and it's a thing, but it just has has happened. 00:15:29.449 --> 00:15:32.549 And I say, I guess, I guess I can blame Robbie for that. 00:15:32.804 --> 00:15:37.980 When I decided that I wanted the Texas a and m I say I, I knew nothing about. 00:15:38.789 --> 00:15:51.649 I mean, I had, I've had Facebook since Facebook was invented, but I knew nothing about, you know, all these online stuff we had today you know, 15 years ago weren't there, 16, whatever it was. 00:15:52.250 --> 00:16:00.100 And I don't even remember who gave me Robbie's number, but I gave him a call. 00:16:01.019 --> 00:16:10.279 And if you've ever, if you knew Robbie, when you call Robbie, you better have your lunch pack because he was going to chat for a while. 00:16:10.970 --> 00:16:16.340 And he told me, he explained to me where where he got his a and m from. 00:16:17.689 --> 00:16:18.870 And and. 00:16:19.769 --> 00:16:26.014 Telling me the story, how the, he got'em from an Amish man up in I don't remember it was Ohio or Pennsylvania. 00:16:26.014 --> 00:16:32.884 But anyhow, the guy had actually worked with Texas a and m University on this program. 00:16:33.754 --> 00:16:47.375 And when they abandoned everything or quit with it, I don't know whether they abandoned what, but anyhow, he brought some of the birds back and Robbie had went to buy a load of foam. 00:16:49.205 --> 00:16:50.705 That's where he got his shipping from. 00:16:51.365 --> 00:17:03.705 And he happened to see those white birds and got talking with the guy, and I'm not going to tell you how much he said he paid for all the eggs that man had, but it was a lot. 00:17:04.245 --> 00:17:07.144 And he came home and and he started them from that. 00:17:07.835 --> 00:17:13.735 And I say that's where I got mine from, and I'm trying to remember. 00:17:14.735 --> 00:17:20.495 I got some from somebody else after I got, um, I believe it. 00:17:20.595 --> 00:17:21.225 Oh, shoot. 00:17:21.404 --> 00:17:24.194 The Rock, the girl in Florida. 00:17:24.315 --> 00:17:28.855 Anyway she, the Quail book, Alex Alexandra Quail book. 00:17:29.125 --> 00:17:29.894 Alex, yeah. 00:17:30.394 --> 00:17:30.815 Mm-hmm. 00:17:30.865 --> 00:17:35.355 I got some from her one time when we first started out. 00:17:36.015 --> 00:17:53.515 And but anyway mine came from Robbie and then he would he was telling me about the I believe it was India, or I can't remember exactly which country it was, but he was going to import some more white birds. 00:17:53.515 --> 00:17:57.655 They were supposed to be bigger than these dotted whites that we got today. 00:17:58.405 --> 00:18:16.115 And, he went through all the paperwork, took him, I forgot how many months it was, over a year to get, to be able to import these eggs, imported them, cost an arm and a leg, and none of them hatched. 00:18:17.620 --> 00:18:18.665 Oh, no. 00:18:18.755 --> 00:18:24.335 So he goes back to re to get a reorder on him. 00:18:25.265 --> 00:18:27.845 And I, I didn't know this because I never get it. 00:18:28.445 --> 00:18:34.325 You only have 30 days on that paperwork and once the 30 days is if you gotta buy it all over again. 00:18:34.985 --> 00:18:35.525 Oh, no. 00:18:35.720 --> 00:18:36.935 Suppo, I guess the way it was. 00:18:37.384 --> 00:18:42.575 And so he wound up having to do it all over again if he wanted those eggs. 00:18:43.384 --> 00:18:46.860 So, he abandoned that and just stuck, stuck with what he had. 00:18:48.540 --> 00:18:54.640 And but yeah he'd give me some of everything he had, but one, he didn't ever give me any, let me have any ban. 00:18:56.650 --> 00:18:59.690 And I've always wanted to see some of them, just to see'em. 00:18:59.690 --> 00:19:02.800 But hadn't got any, well, I know where some's at, but I haven't got'em yet. 00:19:03.130 --> 00:19:05.170 But I will say this about Robbie. 00:19:06.160 --> 00:19:18.155 And then I'll, and then I'll go on when my wife died in 2016 and Robbie was the first man to call me and send me a card up the north. 00:19:20.255 --> 00:19:28.500 And he don't know how much I know he was having issues at that time, and he don't know how much that meant to me. 00:19:29.500 --> 00:19:36.715 That meant more than all the bird information that he'd give me to know that. 00:19:37.810 --> 00:19:45.130 He was thinking about me, and he did, I, he did something else at his church in remembrance of her. 00:19:45.940 --> 00:19:48.360 Um, he and he sent me a photo of it. 00:19:49.350 --> 00:20:50.995 He bought a plaque in remembrance of her and put it in his hand, in his church or was, and I say I, I know they some that probably like the rest of us they, they don't have, you know, don't have a good good thoughts about him. 00:20:50.995 --> 00:20:53.704 But he was special for me and I hated seed. 00:20:53.755 --> 00:20:53.964 Oh. 00:20:53.964 --> 00:20:56.484 No, we didn't lose him. 00:20:59.400 --> 00:21:01.525 I bet he was on an iPad and forgot to plug it up. 00:21:02.525 --> 00:21:08.674 So we've had some technical difficulties with HP and we're muddling through. 00:21:11.599 --> 00:21:13.039 Is Robbie still alive? 00:21:13.039 --> 00:21:13.549 Do you know? 00:21:15.470 --> 00:21:16.099 I think so. 00:21:17.099 --> 00:21:25.680 I think that he just kind of got outta the quail drama, but I think he is, I'm not a hundred percent sure. 00:21:26.680 --> 00:21:29.474 Well, how come it's black but he's not there? 00:21:29.625 --> 00:21:30.914 That doesn't make sense. 00:21:32.444 --> 00:21:32.865 Yep. 00:21:33.525 --> 00:21:34.115 Now I can hear you. 00:21:34.115 --> 00:21:34.430 Can you hear us? 00:21:35.535 --> 00:21:36.105 Yep. 00:21:36.109 --> 00:21:36.370 I can. 00:21:37.880 --> 00:21:43.995 Yeah, I've talked to about, I was getting feel like a disc jockey. 00:21:46.964 --> 00:21:47.444 Nice. 00:21:48.444 --> 00:21:50.960 One of those guys on the news doing a monologue. 00:21:51.960 --> 00:21:54.660 Well, tell us about your building. 00:21:54.670 --> 00:21:56.589 Is your brooder building about done? 00:21:56.769 --> 00:21:58.150 What do you got going on there? 00:21:58.579 --> 00:22:01.099 Don't you asked some personal questions? 00:22:01.099 --> 00:22:05.690 No, I ain't done, are bird people ever done? 00:22:07.910 --> 00:22:08.450 Oh goodness. 00:22:08.450 --> 00:22:10.575 I, oh I'm using it. 00:22:10.694 --> 00:22:11.505 I've got it. 00:22:11.605 --> 00:22:13.164 I got the import stuff done. 00:22:13.164 --> 00:22:14.335 I got the water in it. 00:22:14.785 --> 00:22:17.035 I got the heating and the lights in it. 00:22:17.085 --> 00:22:20.799 I just I haven't got all the, I haven't got all the brewers built yet. 00:22:20.799 --> 00:22:20.984 I've got. 00:22:22.329 --> 00:22:27.130 I think seven, six or seven, I think, in there now. 00:22:27.130 --> 00:22:32.640 And I got the other the material to put'em together and put'em in. 00:22:32.640 --> 00:22:41.210 I just I I stopped when I got these six or seven that I got in the house now, I stopped. 00:22:41.210 --> 00:22:44.430 I have revamped my entire operation. 00:22:44.460 --> 00:22:53.309 I have went, I have done, I don't have, no, nope, I have some, but I don't use any stack cages anymore or any hanging cages. 00:22:53.309 --> 00:23:04.589 Mine's all one cage level and the poop goes on to dirt and we get it up once a year or whenever we need to for the garden. 00:23:05.160 --> 00:23:09.224 And I have built, I say completely new cages. 00:23:09.224 --> 00:23:12.904 They, they're primarily wood with just wire bottoms. 00:23:13.009 --> 00:23:14.620 And I really like what it's done. 00:23:15.319 --> 00:23:17.029 That sounds real low maintenance. 00:23:17.420 --> 00:23:21.025 It is like I say, all you gotta do is walk out there and feed them and pick up eggs. 00:23:21.144 --> 00:23:24.234 But that brooder house, that's the greatest investment I've ever made. 00:23:24.565 --> 00:23:28.015 I mean, I told him, I said, here I am. 00:23:28.464 --> 00:23:41.809 When I started, I was 70, 75 years old, and I said, here I am fixed at$20,000 in a building at 75 to raise chicks in you. 00:23:42.910 --> 00:23:46.470 But like you said, what else she do it, it's better than meth. 00:23:47.009 --> 00:23:47.430 Mm-hmm. 00:23:49.234 --> 00:23:51.245 And don't leave the health issues either. 00:23:52.204 --> 00:23:53.779 I mean, I'm, my health is still good. 00:23:54.920 --> 00:23:57.569 In fact, I had a checkup this week and wednesday. 00:23:58.200 --> 00:24:00.329 And she told me, keep doing what you doing. 00:24:00.329 --> 00:24:00.990 It's working. 00:24:02.849 --> 00:24:03.134 So that's right. 00:24:03.319 --> 00:24:03.859 That's good. 00:24:03.914 --> 00:24:05.259 But yeah I don't know. 00:24:05.259 --> 00:24:09.434 I like I say, you don't have to worry with that building with them babies in it. 00:24:10.605 --> 00:24:12.890 I have to worry about it getting too hot, not hot enough. 00:24:13.484 --> 00:24:14.920 But it is really great. 00:24:14.920 --> 00:24:22.035 And I probably I, my brooders is probably not what's atypical in the business. 00:24:22.134 --> 00:24:29.684 I got the idea from the cowra people using the cowra, you know, for brewers. 00:24:30.315 --> 00:24:45.164 And I wound up having a couple of'em when I bought a full of out that was in the quail business and I took, I says, I'm going to cut'em half in two and just, you know. 00:24:45.450 --> 00:24:49.734 I put a bottom in, a wire bottom in it, and a wire top on it. 00:24:49.875 --> 00:25:13.410 And I did, and they were kind of heavy to move around, so I had already had bought some sheet metal to make poop trays with, so I took them and I ripped them down in the 11 inch strips, put the ends together and rivet them together and make me a oblong. 00:25:14.190 --> 00:25:20.730 Rooter just like that, a rove with my wire bottom and a wire top. 00:25:21.630 --> 00:25:25.900 And I for the first, I do have poop trays there in there. 00:25:27.039 --> 00:25:33.309 For the first week I, I got the same stuff you put in the bottom of your incubator up the shelf liner. 00:25:33.789 --> 00:25:37.029 I put that in there over the half inch hardware to begin with. 00:25:38.035 --> 00:25:38.454 Okay. 00:25:38.454 --> 00:25:40.375 And then when they get big dust, they can stand on that. 00:25:40.375 --> 00:25:45.335 I take that out and like I say, give'em the extra ventilation by that time. 00:25:45.335 --> 00:25:46.595 They don't need all that heat. 00:25:47.224 --> 00:25:49.470 And it, it just worked super good. 00:25:49.470 --> 00:25:54.615 I don't have to worry about'em getting in the corner piling up, you know, they rounded corners. 00:25:55.355 --> 00:25:55.775 Mm-hmm. 00:25:57.170 --> 00:25:59.539 And it, it just working great. 00:25:59.630 --> 00:26:01.450 I got automatic waters in them. 00:26:02.680 --> 00:26:02.859 Oh. 00:26:02.859 --> 00:26:04.630 I'm in love with automatic waters. 00:26:05.710 --> 00:26:08.140 They're the best things since sliced bread. 00:26:08.325 --> 00:26:14.144 I know everybody thinks I'm crazy, but don't knock it till you try it. 00:26:14.625 --> 00:26:15.194 That's right. 00:26:15.589 --> 00:26:20.200 I bought the premier one, the round ones with the float in them. 00:26:21.759 --> 00:26:29.684 I mounted them on a four by four, took a piece of four, four posts, mounted them on it, put'em inside the key, the brooder. 00:26:30.745 --> 00:26:35.934 And put a tube four down there for'em to get up on to be able to reach the water. 00:26:37.315 --> 00:26:38.724 They get up there and drink, get down. 00:26:38.815 --> 00:26:41.694 If they walk through the water, they, it ain't deep enough to drown them. 00:26:43.900 --> 00:26:45.870 It I mean, it just blow my mind. 00:26:45.870 --> 00:26:46.950 I said, I'm gonna try it. 00:26:47.819 --> 00:27:00.279 And I mean, with the with the jars and the lids, especially with pinehaven or shaving, or even with towels, the, they wick it will wick the water out. 00:27:00.714 --> 00:27:01.134 Mm-hmm. 00:27:01.660 --> 00:27:02.799 Mm-hmm. 00:27:02.806 --> 00:27:05.049 I don't have, you don't have no wicking with this. 00:27:05.559 --> 00:27:11.509 I mean, they go up there and drink and if they get in it, you know, it don't went in the bottom of the brooder. 00:27:11.515 --> 00:27:12.375 Mm-hmm. 00:27:12.849 --> 00:27:14.660 I'm Googling it right now while we're talking. 00:27:15.934 --> 00:27:19.359 So I've got the ones that are like that. 00:27:19.359 --> 00:27:20.410 They're red. 00:27:20.974 --> 00:27:21.194 Yep. 00:27:21.194 --> 00:27:21.515 Mm-hmm. 00:27:21.875 --> 00:27:24.835 Probably about five, six inches round. 00:27:25.414 --> 00:27:25.634 Yep. 00:27:25.634 --> 00:27:25.995 Mm-hmm. 00:27:26.095 --> 00:27:29.890 And I set mine the float about midway. 00:27:30.339 --> 00:27:30.519 Mm-hmm. 00:27:31.180 --> 00:27:33.099 And I just put some grid in there. 00:27:34.865 --> 00:27:35.904 I ain't putting nothing in mind. 00:27:35.944 --> 00:27:45.394 I say I guess adjust it to where, you know, like I say, it might be a quarter inch deep in water, and now my breeders, I got it open up full blast, you know? 00:27:45.484 --> 00:27:45.815 Yeah. 00:27:46.144 --> 00:27:50.285 Because, and there again, that's something else that I do that a lot of people don't comprehend. 00:27:50.525 --> 00:27:54.275 I got one water to, to the ca to the cage. 00:27:54.279 --> 00:27:54.519 Mm-hmm. 00:27:54.620 --> 00:27:58.009 If I got 150 birds in that cage, they one water in there. 00:27:58.640 --> 00:27:58.970 Yeah. 00:28:00.259 --> 00:28:01.940 They, and you. 00:28:02.120 --> 00:28:03.529 But those waters are big. 00:28:04.069 --> 00:28:04.400 Yep. 00:28:04.519 --> 00:28:05.059 I mean it's, yeah. 00:28:05.059 --> 00:28:07.430 They big, big mine's like six inch round, I think. 00:28:07.819 --> 00:28:08.089 Yep. 00:28:08.095 --> 00:28:08.375 Mm-hmm. 00:28:08.454 --> 00:28:08.654 Yeah. 00:28:08.654 --> 00:28:11.120 They big, they hold a good bit of water. 00:28:11.870 --> 00:28:18.019 Actually I have mine, um, attached to a five gallon bucket in my brooder that I built. 00:28:18.680 --> 00:28:21.769 I built a brooder that looks like a bookshelf, right. 00:28:21.890 --> 00:28:31.370 And, you know, I've got'em in there and I drill a hole in the back, ran the tube through, hooked the thing up, and I set it down. 00:28:32.210 --> 00:28:39.589 And I want to build, I'm gonna get some quarter inch hardware cloth, just a little bit of it. 00:28:39.589 --> 00:28:40.279 Mm-hmm. 00:28:41.120 --> 00:28:51.109 And I'm gonna build like a foot by foot square that's raised up to put the water on top of it so they don't get nothing in it. 00:28:52.039 --> 00:28:53.414 And that's gonna be nice. 00:28:54.414 --> 00:28:56.680 Every time my phone rings, it cuts me off. 00:28:58.450 --> 00:28:59.410 Well, you're popular. 00:28:59.410 --> 00:29:00.940 It's nice to be popular. 00:29:01.180 --> 00:29:01.750 That's right. 00:29:02.529 --> 00:29:05.579 I don't know why it wouldn't work on my laptop man. 00:29:05.585 --> 00:29:16.769 But any, but anyway, yeah, that I got in my brooder house, I've got, I've only got a five gallon bucket with a float in it, but I got the water running to it permanently. 00:29:16.769 --> 00:29:33.444 You know, I and just like I have on my layers and grow out, so I got a big drum with a float in it, and I just got the water from the well hooked up to it, and I'd say, if something don't break, I don't worry about water, and all I have to do is feed up. 00:29:36.075 --> 00:29:38.559 Do you still have the checkers and the other birds? 00:29:39.349 --> 00:29:39.640 Yeah. 00:29:39.640 --> 00:29:40.039 Mm-hmm. 00:29:40.394 --> 00:29:43.190 I, well I say uhhuh, I've got hush now. 00:29:43.620 --> 00:29:46.960 I've got chuckers and I've got a few Bob Whites. 00:29:46.960 --> 00:29:51.000 I I lost my pheasants when the hurricane comes. 00:29:51.059 --> 00:30:00.055 Well, not from the hurricane because I caught'em from the hurricane, but in that February we had to smoke and I lost all the pheasants I had. 00:30:00.115 --> 00:30:08.345 They left, they in the neighborhood round and about, and chuckers was gone and I'd already traded my Bob wife. 00:30:08.345 --> 00:30:10.835 I got tired of them and I traded them for pheasants. 00:30:11.375 --> 00:30:16.059 And so, I hatched, um, blue coolers of chuckers this past. 00:30:17.079 --> 00:30:18.309 Tell us about checkers. 00:30:18.309 --> 00:30:20.019 Why do people want checkers? 00:30:22.664 --> 00:30:34.904 They they're more flight here than Bob whites, and they're, if you've ever missed with Tennessee Reds, you know how crazy they are. 00:30:36.015 --> 00:30:39.285 These chuckers are two notches above a Tennessee red. 00:30:39.375 --> 00:30:42.339 I mean, they are idiot squared. 00:30:43.644 --> 00:30:44.224 Oh, wow. 00:30:45.194 --> 00:30:50.835 And you get within 10 yards of'em, and they flush and they great for these hunting reserves. 00:30:50.835 --> 00:30:50.894 Yeah. 00:30:52.394 --> 00:31:06.125 And I didn't realize it till last year, and I won't say which one, but these there's a religion that uses them in their worship. 00:31:09.029 --> 00:31:09.269 Huh. 00:31:09.329 --> 00:31:14.670 Yeah, I had some come from Florida and bought some for me, and I asked, what you doing with these? 00:31:15.539 --> 00:31:16.950 And they explained it to me. 00:31:17.140 --> 00:31:21.579 But they, you know, I've had'em for years, several years, and I've never ate one. 00:31:22.519 --> 00:31:24.434 I got the butcher some and see what they say. 00:31:24.495 --> 00:31:25.035 How big are they? 00:31:26.384 --> 00:31:30.130 They probably pound and a half. 00:31:32.170 --> 00:31:32.230 Oh, okay. 00:31:32.230 --> 00:31:34.029 They're smaller than a pheasant. 00:31:35.380 --> 00:31:38.319 I was gonna say, from what I've seen, they're smaller than a pheasant. 00:31:38.319 --> 00:31:39.490 Bigger than a jumbo. 00:31:40.089 --> 00:31:40.329 Yeah. 00:31:40.329 --> 00:31:43.704 They'll they, I'd say probably pound and a half maximum. 00:31:44.125 --> 00:31:49.944 But another thing you think, Vince, sex in a solid colored quail. 00:31:51.924 --> 00:31:56.845 You can't vent sex a chucker and you can't feather sex. 00:31:56.845 --> 00:31:56.934 It. 00:31:58.515 --> 00:32:02.134 You just, I, all these years I ain't learned hell yet. 00:32:04.059 --> 00:32:10.569 They supposedly the male I have a little spur in his head will be bigger than the end. 00:32:12.759 --> 00:32:16.180 Well, now you tell me you're growing them out. 00:32:16.779 --> 00:32:20.019 One may be growing faster, doesn't, is that the reason his head's bigger? 00:32:20.144 --> 00:32:31.980 I mean, so I had, I don't know how many thousand eggs last year and sold all the chicks and I kept me 300 at chuckers and grow them out. 00:32:33.390 --> 00:32:36.809 And that's when I'm, I built new cages for them. 00:32:38.039 --> 00:32:42.480 And that's what gave me the idea to redo my quail cages as well. 00:32:42.910 --> 00:32:46.579 I built'em out of I had extra lumber from my brewer house. 00:32:47.809 --> 00:32:50.470 And I had some two by tens left over. 00:32:50.799 --> 00:32:56.470 So I used that two by 10 lumber to be on my Tucker cages with roll out cages. 00:32:57.549 --> 00:33:03.870 And I put them jokers in there and I'd go out there and they'd be 10 or 15 of'em dead. 00:33:05.730 --> 00:33:07.259 I said, what is going on? 00:33:09.690 --> 00:33:10.349 Go back next. 00:33:10.349 --> 00:33:11.460 They didn't be that me anymore. 00:33:11.549 --> 00:33:12.269 I put three. 00:33:12.275 --> 00:33:14.400 Oh, I had cages there for 300. 00:33:14.400 --> 00:33:15.480 I say 300. 00:33:17.130 --> 00:33:20.640 And I says, I something wrong. 00:33:20.640 --> 00:33:22.980 I got, they just ain't going stay gauge stuff. 00:33:23.819 --> 00:33:24.569 It ain't gonna work. 00:33:24.575 --> 00:33:32.630 So I went to work to fix my flight pen back, and by the time it took me a little bit to do that because I don't know, it just did. 00:33:32.960 --> 00:33:39.650 And by the time I got my flight pen where I could put'em in it again, I had 65 left. 00:33:40.430 --> 00:33:41.224 Outta 300. 00:33:41.539 --> 00:33:46.430 They had killed each other to that, and I put'em in there. 00:33:46.430 --> 00:33:51.650 And soon as I did, then they got in that 50 foot flat pin. 00:33:51.650 --> 00:33:52.279 They was fine. 00:33:53.200 --> 00:33:54.160 No more deaths. 00:33:54.880 --> 00:33:57.130 Well, how do you know if you can't sex them? 00:33:57.549 --> 00:34:01.180 How many females you have laying eggs on? 00:34:01.180 --> 00:34:05.684 Honestly, you can tell a female how many eggs I nore. 00:34:05.684 --> 00:34:06.085 Really? 00:34:06.285 --> 00:34:07.644 I, like I say, I can't. 00:34:08.045 --> 00:34:09.099 I can't, I still can't. 00:34:09.150 --> 00:34:14.515 I'm sure that they has to be a method, you know? 00:34:15.025 --> 00:34:30.465 But I've not mastered it yet and don't intend to I'm going to, I've done, so part of mine I, it's easier for me to buy eggs and hats than it is to try to keep'em and you know, you know, have the edge and answer from that, because. 00:34:31.465 --> 00:34:37.840 I say I can, I got a buddy that sells it, put me pretty reasonable, so, it's better to let him feed'em to me. 00:34:37.840 --> 00:34:49.005 I'm going in fact the guy from the Philippines that come got some of my attorneys he got part of my chuckers as well, and I had blue scale. 00:34:50.025 --> 00:34:51.345 I got a few blue scale. 00:34:53.265 --> 00:34:54.015 He bought those. 00:34:55.275 --> 00:34:56.684 He wanted them worser than I did. 00:34:57.525 --> 00:35:04.875 So, I I'm out of the, I've got a few, I got a few gamble left and I got a buddy I'm going to give them to soon as I. 00:35:05.889 --> 00:35:07.869 I get up in there, tell him to come get'em. 00:35:08.824 --> 00:35:21.005 No I'm, and my bought wife I still got a few of them not by a boy that had bought tour eggs from me. 00:35:21.005 --> 00:35:29.964 He he bought a bunch of Bob White eggs and incubated them, and he hacks and Bob Whites they like buttons. 00:35:30.625 --> 00:35:33.204 98% of them are hacks when you put it in the incubator. 00:35:33.209 --> 00:35:33.469 Mm-hmm. 00:35:34.554 --> 00:35:38.134 And he called me, he says, I got 300 Bob Watts. 00:35:38.134 --> 00:35:39.754 I ain't got no brewer to put'em in. 00:35:40.354 --> 00:35:41.494 Can you help me sell'em? 00:35:42.754 --> 00:35:47.944 Well, I called a few people, posted them, and he sold a few of them. 00:35:49.144 --> 00:35:51.724 And that was on the weekend. 00:35:51.724 --> 00:35:56.904 That Monday night, he called me, he says, I am gonna bring the rest of these quails to your house and I'm going to give'em to you. 00:35:59.729 --> 00:36:03.594 So he brought me over 200 and I threw them in the brewer house. 00:36:03.594 --> 00:36:04.724 And I sold part of'em. 00:36:04.724 --> 00:36:12.079 Got, I may have about 30 or 40 left, but I thought I'd cage them up to see how the, you know, I might sell a few eggs off of them this year. 00:36:12.079 --> 00:36:19.234 But I it just, I don't know I, my wife is just not my cup of tea either. 00:36:19.384 --> 00:36:21.994 I guess I'm finally getting old. 00:36:21.994 --> 00:36:25.229 And the cix, they they work so much easier and smoother. 00:36:25.554 --> 00:36:29.134 And yeah, I just for me, the Bob wires, I just like the sound of them. 00:36:30.034 --> 00:36:33.144 Oh yeah, I've got'em I've got'em all around my place now. 00:36:33.144 --> 00:36:33.589 We've got about. 00:36:35.244 --> 00:36:35.814 I don't know. 00:36:35.814 --> 00:36:39.924 At one time we had like selling cubbies around. 00:36:40.419 --> 00:36:59.969 I live in a, I won't call it a subdivision, but there's a lot of homes out here around we all have acreage, you know, but there's a lot of people around me and you can hear'em all around different places when they, and I even have some every spring there's some come up to my come up to my attorneys old males will hunting females. 00:37:00.089 --> 00:37:03.899 But when I, one of mine gets loose, I don't even try to catch him. 00:37:03.899 --> 00:37:06.119 I just let him go. 00:37:06.119 --> 00:37:10.139 And if predators don't get him, good for him. 00:37:10.139 --> 00:37:12.059 They say we, we've got a few cubbies. 00:37:12.059 --> 00:37:20.189 In fact, I have a, I tried to trap, I did trap because there was a covey'em at my daughter's house on their place. 00:37:20.189 --> 00:37:22.904 And I set a trap down and I caught them. 00:37:22.904 --> 00:37:24.319 And I turned a pair of'em loose and. 00:37:25.114 --> 00:37:35.244 Brought the rest of'em, put'em in the after when I had Bob Whites on the ground, put'em in the pen with them and I go back there the next day and mine had killed them. 00:37:35.244 --> 00:37:36.024 I put in there. 00:37:36.024 --> 00:37:39.354 So they didn't like the outsiders? 00:37:39.714 --> 00:37:40.644 No, they weren't. 00:37:40.644 --> 00:37:46.739 They tear oil and so, so the buttons, they're forever getting out right out in the barn. 00:37:46.889 --> 00:37:51.539 So anytime I have to open the cages, we close the big doors, we close'em all up, and. 00:37:51.929 --> 00:38:02.219 Then we open the cages because you know, they're gonna get out and I'll stand there and when they get out and I'll look real hard and I'm like, oh, that's just a male. 00:38:03.344 --> 00:38:05.644 That's fine, it's fine. 00:38:06.089 --> 00:38:08.819 But if it's a hen man, we'll tear the whole barn apart. 00:38:08.819 --> 00:38:14.644 Looking for Well, well, was it you that sent me some button eggs or somebody else? 00:38:15.344 --> 00:38:17.909 We, um, well we did some trading ones. 00:38:17.909 --> 00:38:22.919 But you said that they didn't like your, you the raccoons item or something. 00:38:22.924 --> 00:38:22.984 Yeah. 00:38:22.984 --> 00:38:31.224 Anyway I, I had, I think it was seven I had out there the other day that I had some somewhere. 00:38:31.224 --> 00:38:32.364 I don't even know where I got'em. 00:38:32.784 --> 00:38:37.594 But anyway I just put'em in the brooder pen with the attorneys. 00:38:38.134 --> 00:38:45.784 And then when the attorneys wrote off, I just, I ain't got a, I ain't got a pen fixed for the buttons, so I just take the attorneys out to grow out. 00:38:46.125 --> 00:38:51.259 Leave the buttons in the brooder, get another patch of return, say go in there with'em. 00:38:51.799 --> 00:38:53.750 And I got there one day and there's two eggs on the side. 00:38:55.484 --> 00:38:56.444 I do the same thing. 00:38:57.864 --> 00:39:05.784 And I, like I say, I got talks on my brooders and I got just little flaps over there, handholds where I can reach in there and get the feed or whatever and move it around. 00:39:06.559 --> 00:39:10.000 And evidently I forgot to clo put anything on top of it. 00:39:10.599 --> 00:39:20.539 And I went out there and opened the brewer barn door up and looked and there was two white ones out running around in the brewer and the brewer house. 00:39:21.319 --> 00:39:26.619 And before I knew it, wonder what ones that flew out the door just, and I miss with buttons. 00:39:26.799 --> 00:39:27.819 They don't come back. 00:39:27.819 --> 00:39:28.179 They're gone. 00:39:28.329 --> 00:39:28.569 Mm-hmm. 00:39:29.289 --> 00:39:32.500 Well, I catch that and put it back in there. 00:39:32.500 --> 00:39:34.659 And then I look and there's a black one over there. 00:39:34.929 --> 00:39:38.539 I catch him and I go on about my business and left the door open. 00:39:38.694 --> 00:39:53.409 So, like I say it, it'll get hot in that window house and I come back to Rick and walk back in it, check on her, and there that little white, when she come back in, never had one to come back before I dipped her up with a dip and put her, we in there. 00:39:53.409 --> 00:39:55.764 But I reckon I'm going to have. 00:39:56.989 --> 00:39:59.659 Drag out mold pen that I used to keep mine in. 00:39:59.659 --> 00:40:01.939 And yeah, the squirrel's got my purse. 00:40:02.149 --> 00:40:02.689 That's squirrels. 00:40:02.689 --> 00:40:03.019 It was squirrel. 00:40:03.224 --> 00:40:03.514 Yeah. 00:40:03.834 --> 00:40:04.514 Squirrel killed them. 00:40:04.514 --> 00:40:04.754 Yeah. 00:40:05.534 --> 00:40:05.954 Mm-hmm. 00:40:06.379 --> 00:40:16.009 So I have some grown out there for orders right now and um, I find the buttons are more like turkeys raising them. 00:40:16.009 --> 00:40:19.789 They'll kind of wanna stay warm and they won't be as active. 00:40:20.179 --> 00:40:27.259 And so I just looked at'em and they're all bunching up underneath the heater plate, and I'm thinking, it's not that cold. 00:40:27.259 --> 00:40:28.369 What are you fools doing? 00:40:28.369 --> 00:40:28.819 You know? 00:40:29.149 --> 00:40:29.899 And. 00:40:30.319 --> 00:40:32.479 They really, they're between two and three weeks. 00:40:32.479 --> 00:40:34.339 They should be coming off that heat anyway. 00:40:34.609 --> 00:40:36.319 And they were just all bunched up. 00:40:36.319 --> 00:40:40.669 So I grabbed me up a bunch of Egyptians and threw in there that were like a week old. 00:40:41.839 --> 00:40:48.019 Of course, they start running around like spas and the buttons are like, Ooh, we need to run like them and mm-hmm. 00:40:48.020 --> 00:40:48.919 And everything's fine. 00:40:50.779 --> 00:40:55.000 They they're tropical, I tell you that they, the hotter it is, the better they like it. 00:40:55.469 --> 00:40:55.759 Yeah. 00:40:56.379 --> 00:40:58.759 But I think there's quail in general, isn't it? 00:40:59.500 --> 00:40:59.719 No. 00:41:00.219 --> 00:41:01.199 The turex don't. 00:41:02.469 --> 00:41:05.584 Well, when you brood them, they like to be hot, that's for sure. 00:41:06.514 --> 00:41:06.844 Yeah. 00:41:06.844 --> 00:41:08.434 The breeders like to be cold. 00:41:08.944 --> 00:41:14.134 You talking about your brooder house staying hot, you need to put some blown insulation in there. 00:41:14.744 --> 00:41:16.604 It, it's completely insulated. 00:41:16.604 --> 00:41:17.299 That's why it's so hot. 00:41:18.299 --> 00:41:20.474 Oh, all the brooders putting off the heat. 00:41:21.104 --> 00:41:21.404 Yep. 00:41:21.524 --> 00:41:21.914 Mm-hmm. 00:41:22.244 --> 00:41:30.554 I gotta put a, I gotta put, I gotta put a squirrel cage fan in it for ventilation, because that's another thing. 00:41:30.634 --> 00:41:35.794 How do y'all deal with the ammonia in those quail barns? 00:41:36.364 --> 00:41:38.014 I have a 36 inch fan. 00:41:39.844 --> 00:41:41.254 I have a 18, I have a 18 inch fan in mine. 00:41:41.719 --> 00:41:42.139 Mm-hmm. 00:41:42.729 --> 00:41:44.739 Yeah I talked to my air conditioner man. 00:41:44.789 --> 00:41:50.434 He said, I can stick you a squirrel cage up there in the ceiling and blow it through the vents. 00:41:50.439 --> 00:42:00.454 And because I, you know, I'm running maybe, I don't know, somewhere between 500 and a thousand chicks out there and with no sand. 00:42:01.384 --> 00:42:01.744 Yeah. 00:42:02.044 --> 00:42:07.059 And when you, when I closed the doors of the night because, you know, animals. 00:42:07.419 --> 00:42:11.084 But when I opened up was the morning it just burns my eyes, pneumonia. 00:42:12.359 --> 00:42:13.694 So I, yeah, you need a fan. 00:42:14.584 --> 00:42:23.424 I'm thinking about, I'm really, I'm thinking about putting one of those little split units, the little individuals, you know, for one room, you know? 00:42:23.424 --> 00:42:24.204 Mm-hmm. 00:42:24.205 --> 00:42:24.215 Mm-hmm. 00:42:24.215 --> 00:42:27.644 Put one of those in there so it would circulate there. 00:42:27.794 --> 00:42:29.054 And if they needed heat, they'd do heat. 00:42:29.114 --> 00:42:30.629 And if they need cool. 00:42:30.639 --> 00:42:31.399 It'll cool'em. 00:42:32.349 --> 00:42:34.734 Well, I do not find that they need heat. 00:42:35.214 --> 00:42:36.625 That's not the problem. 00:42:37.074 --> 00:42:40.884 Um, but a exhaust fan would fix your problem. 00:42:41.254 --> 00:42:46.084 And I've gone back and forth on a mini split, and my AC guy taught me out of it. 00:42:46.444 --> 00:42:57.064 And what I got was, it's a window unit, but it's, it sits down, like, it doesn't take up the window, it sits down on the sash. 00:42:57.754 --> 00:43:03.034 So it's lower and I can still, if I was tall enough, I would still be able to see out the window. 00:43:03.034 --> 00:43:03.125 Mm-hmm. 00:43:03.469 --> 00:43:08.824 But I too short, but it kinda, the window and hairs a little higher. 00:43:09.214 --> 00:43:09.484 Yeah. 00:43:09.484 --> 00:43:09.994 Mm-hmm. 00:43:10.264 --> 00:43:11.179 So she can't see over it. 00:43:11.179 --> 00:43:13.894 Can't see, even if it wasn't in there, the trees. 00:43:14.284 --> 00:43:21.174 Um, but yeah it kind of acts like a mini split, but you know, the dander just chews them up. 00:43:21.204 --> 00:43:26.184 And I think it lasted about one and a half summers. 00:43:26.184 --> 00:43:48.289 And so I'm already on my second one that that's what I was, in my mind I'm saying I know how the house area is and you know, if you ain't changing them filters, and this is, I mean, like you say that joker, he starts molting the time he comes out of the egg and he gonna quit till you pull his head off. 00:43:49.504 --> 00:43:50.164 The dander. 00:43:50.854 --> 00:43:51.754 The dander, horrible. 00:43:51.754 --> 00:44:06.334 I do keep a box fan in there on low, and I went over to David's shop and went shopping and found some AC filters that he hadn't, he didn't need for anymore because the weird size. 00:44:06.724 --> 00:44:13.684 And I taped one to the back of my box fan and I was kind of shocked at how much dander it pulled. 00:44:13.774 --> 00:44:14.164 Mm-hmm. 00:44:14.464 --> 00:44:15.814 In just like a week. 00:44:16.264 --> 00:44:18.064 I need to change it already. 00:44:19.294 --> 00:44:26.974 I had, um, we had a really bad water leak in our house and I had to get a air scrubber for that. 00:44:27.904 --> 00:44:41.359 And I have put the air scrubber where my chicks are, man, you turn that thing on and it pulls air through the, um, it's got a filter, like a he and cooling filter. 00:44:41.719 --> 00:44:41.839 Mm-hmm. 00:44:42.139 --> 00:44:46.759 It'll pull the air through there, wide open it, it only runs about 600. 00:44:47.479 --> 00:44:50.179 CFM, so it's not real intense. 00:44:50.719 --> 00:44:51.019 Right. 00:44:51.019 --> 00:44:53.689 But it will pull all that mess out of the air. 00:44:54.209 --> 00:45:03.419 I used, Terry did a show where he made a box out of air filters with box fan. 00:45:03.659 --> 00:45:03.750 Mm-hmm. 00:45:03.989 --> 00:45:04.000 Mm-hmm. 00:45:04.000 --> 00:45:12.449 And he also showed, there's a, um, company that makes a box fan that has an attachment with a filter on the back of it. 00:45:13.319 --> 00:45:19.169 And I found I use those for the longest and they work really well. 00:45:19.229 --> 00:45:24.269 You have to clean'em like once a week air hose and blow'em off outside. 00:45:24.539 --> 00:45:24.899 Right. 00:45:25.259 --> 00:45:26.634 And they make a huge difference. 00:45:28.434 --> 00:45:29.125 Yeah. 00:45:29.125 --> 00:45:35.329 I, oh, I say I've talked my, on the mini split. 00:45:35.434 --> 00:45:36.714 I talked myself out of that. 00:45:36.894 --> 00:45:43.974 I'm I think I'm just going to put like I say, cut me a vent hole in one gable end and just stick me off. 00:45:44.844 --> 00:45:49.554 Stick me a squirrel cage in there and then call it a day. 00:45:50.159 --> 00:45:52.189 If it gets dusty, it just gets dusty. 00:45:53.179 --> 00:45:53.539 Yeah. 00:45:53.539 --> 00:46:01.729 Well I can control the temperature in like it's on right now, and I can control the temperature in mine with the windows or mm-hmm. 00:46:02.059 --> 00:46:05.659 The big door, you know, I might leave it a couple inches up or something. 00:46:06.169 --> 00:46:06.289 Right. 00:46:06.379 --> 00:46:12.919 But I don't have a predator problem, so I might, if I was you, I would do a Windows. 00:46:13.144 --> 00:46:13.434 Yeah. 00:46:13.694 --> 00:46:21.174 I got I got cameras of course everywhere and about 10 30 done up. 00:46:21.744 --> 00:46:22.434 It went off. 00:46:23.125 --> 00:46:25.134 I got wild hogs coming in now. 00:46:26.589 --> 00:46:26.809 No. 00:46:27.809 --> 00:46:31.019 Yeah, no, that's the second time. 00:46:31.500 --> 00:46:32.939 I had one once before. 00:46:33.000 --> 00:46:34.679 It's fortunately just one. 00:46:35.819 --> 00:46:38.059 And I got the first one, but I don't know. 00:46:38.059 --> 00:46:41.839 If you don't get rid of him quick, they gonna be a lot more. 00:46:42.199 --> 00:46:42.679 Mm-hmm. 00:46:43.849 --> 00:46:45.329 It's it's crazy. 00:46:45.379 --> 00:46:51.019 He don't even mess with the, I got feed stacked up, you know, on pallets there. 00:46:51.829 --> 00:46:53.639 And he don't pay the feed no attention. 00:46:53.639 --> 00:46:55.289 He just roots in the drop. 00:46:55.289 --> 00:46:58.529 Its because somebody's feeding him. 00:46:59.889 --> 00:47:01.000 He's a big old joker. 00:47:01.129 --> 00:47:02.329 I got him on camera. 00:47:02.479 --> 00:47:13.209 He I told my son-in-law, they need to come over here and just pull their side by side down there and park it and leave it for a day or two and then come back over here one night and just wait on him. 00:47:13.209 --> 00:47:16.114 When he gets in the edge of the woods down there, behind the house where he is at. 00:47:17.875 --> 00:47:20.034 I said, y'all can kill him down there, if you will. 00:47:20.394 --> 00:47:27.059 You didn't use them to coming up seeing the vehicle there all the time, but we haven't got that for you yet. 00:47:27.809 --> 00:47:29.939 I'll wait till he eats a bunch of quail first. 00:47:31.859 --> 00:47:33.539 God, I can't wait to get rid of our pigs. 00:47:33.539 --> 00:47:36.599 I know we talk about my pigs too much, but dang. 00:47:36.869 --> 00:47:45.179 I was in the barn the other day and they were trying to come through my 14 foot door, and I'm pushing on it and screaming. 00:47:45.179 --> 00:47:49.159 And finally somebody heard me and they came and got some feed and got'em away from the barn. 00:47:49.159 --> 00:47:53.174 But we've had to lock'em out of the, we call it the paddock, the. 00:47:54.169 --> 00:47:56.239 The field that's behind the barn. 00:47:56.239 --> 00:47:57.889 We've had to lock'em outta there now. 00:47:58.939 --> 00:48:06.319 And then this morning they went through the electric fence and I'm just like, April 7th cannot come fast enough. 00:48:07.234 --> 00:48:09.839 Well see what's crazy? 00:48:09.839 --> 00:48:10.644 Wasn't it crazy? 00:48:11.104 --> 00:48:23.279 But when I'm moved, I built this house here in, we built it 76 and I moved in 77 and I was living on the farm, the family farm down there. 00:48:24.059 --> 00:48:26.250 And I had hogs. 00:48:27.569 --> 00:48:32.250 We had hundreds and hundreds we had big fair in the house, two big feed lots. 00:48:33.239 --> 00:48:39.059 And that's what I was doing my part-time, you know, when my free time when I would be off of work. 00:48:39.599 --> 00:48:46.109 And so when I built this house and moved back over here, I brought 30 Road South with me. 00:48:46.109 --> 00:48:46.199 Yes. 00:48:48.659 --> 00:48:49.949 And all my. 00:48:50.729 --> 00:48:53.939 Feed equipment, corn, and all was on the farm. 00:48:53.939 --> 00:48:58.829 I'd have to drive eight miles, make feed, bring it back. 00:48:59.639 --> 00:49:03.329 And I'd done that for, I don't know, for a long time. 00:49:03.359 --> 00:49:06.329 I hadn't, they were completely off the ground. 00:49:06.379 --> 00:49:07.189 Everything was on floor. 00:49:07.639 --> 00:49:07.904 Pens ends. 00:49:09.084 --> 00:49:14.179 But it it it gotta be too much work to haul feed like that. 00:49:14.369 --> 00:49:16.899 And so I finally just, sold out. 00:49:17.929 --> 00:49:19.819 Quit Bacon's good. 00:49:19.839 --> 00:49:20.859 But it ain't worth it. 00:49:23.209 --> 00:49:31.264 It's not that's kinda like arm, and I don't want nobody to quit, but I don't wanna have to go back to doing it for a living either. 00:49:31.269 --> 00:49:31.419 Mm-hmm. 00:49:33.364 --> 00:49:33.424 No. 00:49:33.424 --> 00:49:35.644 My pig days are almost behind me. 00:49:36.369 --> 00:49:36.659 Yeah. 00:49:38.129 --> 00:49:40.679 I'll let somebody else grow'em and I'll just pay'em. 00:49:41.125 --> 00:49:41.544 Mm-hmm. 00:49:43.379 --> 00:49:43.469 Yep. 00:49:43.469 --> 00:49:43.479 Mm-hmm. 00:49:45.329 --> 00:49:49.229 Well, HP has been fun talking to you. 00:49:50.609 --> 00:49:50.939 Yep. 00:49:50.989 --> 00:49:53.564 I wish we could have had things work a little different. 00:49:54.194 --> 00:49:54.854 It's all right. 00:49:54.854 --> 00:49:56.204 That's what editing is for. 00:49:56.324 --> 00:49:56.684 That's right. 00:49:56.684 --> 00:49:56.744 Okay. 00:49:59.054 --> 00:50:03.234 So, but you need to come back more often if you need a take to let me know. 00:50:03.984 --> 00:50:04.314 Okay. 00:50:04.314 --> 00:50:09.024 Hey, I'll do, when you get a chance, if you would shoot me a picture of. 00:50:09.429 --> 00:50:11.049 The new cages that you built. 00:50:12.159 --> 00:50:12.250 Okay. 00:50:12.250 --> 00:50:14.739 I'd be interested in something outdoor like that. 00:50:14.739 --> 00:50:15.399 That's mm-hmm. 00:50:15.639 --> 00:50:16.809 Low to no maintenance. 00:50:17.709 --> 00:50:18.069 Okay. 00:50:19.299 --> 00:50:20.529 Yeah it's pretty simple. 00:50:20.714 --> 00:50:29.049 Like I say, the backs are one by eight and then just frame out the doors on top and the front. 00:50:29.049 --> 00:50:41.829 I take one by sixes and split them and put them across the front to make a space for the egg to roll out and a space for him to get his head through to eat. 00:50:41.889 --> 00:50:44.379 I the feeder and mount the water on it. 00:50:44.379 --> 00:50:53.304 And then, like I say, I got wire on the bottom and the one, one by one and a half and or one half by one, and then the same thing on top. 00:50:54.084 --> 00:51:03.664 And then I made my top got hinges on'em where I can lift them up or I got little openings in, in the middle where I, you know, if I just wanna open it up and stick my hand in the cage, I can. 00:51:04.724 --> 00:51:05.704 And it so far I like it. 00:51:05.704 --> 00:51:11.804 It, it looks kind of awkward because I got I built'em square and then, you know, had to tilt. 00:51:12.009 --> 00:51:12.409 Mm-hmm. 00:51:12.489 --> 00:51:18.254 The backs up higher for it to roll out, but nevertheless it ain't about looks, it's about efficiency. 00:51:18.794 --> 00:51:19.334 That's right. 00:51:19.334 --> 00:51:19.424 Right. 00:51:19.634 --> 00:51:19.814 Mm-hmm. 00:51:20.354 --> 00:51:22.059 Well, send us a picture and we'll post it. 00:51:22.604 --> 00:51:23.024 Okay. 00:51:23.129 --> 00:51:30.539 I'll get some, I think I already got some, I think I should somebody, I have my watering system set up and everything. 00:51:32.189 --> 00:51:32.339 Yep. 00:51:32.339 --> 00:51:32.349 Okay. 00:51:32.349 --> 00:51:32.879 That'd be nice. 00:51:33.329 --> 00:51:33.629 Okay. 00:51:33.629 --> 00:51:33.959 I'll do it. 00:51:33.959 --> 00:51:34.619 You for y'all. 00:51:35.369 --> 00:51:35.939 Thank you. 00:51:36.569 --> 00:51:37.289 Thank y'all. 00:51:37.349 --> 00:51:38.159 Have a good evening. 00:51:38.669 --> 00:51:38.849 All right. 00:51:39.014 --> 00:51:39.234 Bye. 00:51:39.625 --> 00:51:40.114 bye-Bye. 00:51:41.099 --> 00:51:41.279 All right. 00:51:41.279 --> 00:51:41.939 Don't leave.