#283 - Brooke Eden (In-Studio) on Competing on American Idol and Her First New Song in 4 Years + The Top 10 Richest Songs of All-Time + New Music Top 5

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Speaker 1: Welcome to episode to eighty three. We'll talk to Brooke Eden Newish shardess. She's been town for a little bit, but she has a great new song. Also, how she knew Tim Tebow. Also when she went on American Idol it didn't turn out that good for her. Also, what other stars she went to high school with. It's a good interview, you guys hang out for that. The top ten richest songs, meaning the single song that made the most money, and obviously we started every week with the New Music Top five. At number five, Willie Nelson has a new album called That's Life. Here's a new song called I Won't Dance featuring Diana Crawl Here you got I Won't Dance? How I I won't dance? I know that that was the uh dancing one of the Stars, like one of the themes that we I won't Yeah, but Willie slowed it down. Still big instruments in there, but yeah, that's how I know that song from Dance of the Stars. At number four, Green Day has a new song out called Here Comes the Shock. I was explaining to Caitlin how influential Green Day was back in the day, how cool they were then she's like, I don't get it. Yeah, she just wasn't ever exposed to it until it was over. And now they're back and you know, trying to do stuff. But they're never gonna be as relevant as they were when you know, their first three or four albums. But yeah, they made punk pop. It was them everything. Uh so. And but for me, like Bob Dylan's Will overrated to me, but only because I didn't get to experience that, So I understand some of the stuff that she's feeling. Green Day is awesome to me because I was a kid and you're a punk guy, so you also get it from that. Like the Mecca. Yeah, uh number three you this TikTok or Sean Williams put out a song called where You Left Me? And I put this on here because he came on the radio show this week. He's one of the guys that I said, hey, you gotta stitch me in something and I'll bring some of you in. He came in, he performed, he was great. So you guys, check out this song where You Left Me. Only when you want me when I need you, You're not dare when you can text come running over. I'll do his way to see You. That ain't bag pretty good? It's good. There you go. That's the number three's name is Sean Williams. At number two, Post Malone put out a cover of Hoodie and the Blowfish is on They Want to Be with You. Here's post post version how Suck Your Baby Because cowboys made me cry, There's nothing can go. I've I was worried because I love Hoodie, but it's really good. Yeah. And then my number one song is my guy Brandon Ray. He put out a new song called used to Hi using hands so caught up, Go watch and do caught of something that could get you to, sue. That sounds really good. That sounds really good. It feels like like his style of kind of country rock meets like a solid Jonas Brothers. Yeah, that might be the best straight ahead radio song he's put out in a long time. That that's a jam man using hands, so caught up, Go watch and do caught of something that could get you to like the low in there too, Dang, sue, I could get you just so run into some other stuff. Eric Church put a new song out called never Break Heart. He first debuted the song back in April for a c m Presents, but it's out now. Carrie under What has a new song called Great is Thy Faithfulness Faithfulness. The band Camino has a new song called One Last Cigarette. Uh, there's something you don't even know who this is, but you like this Julian Baker and Baker Yeah, do I know him? No, it's a girl. Oh that's why I don't know him. Okay, here's a new song called hard Line Different sweet that Okay, that feels like I'm not listening to very sad. New album's Alice Cooper, Madison Beer, Josh Grobin, Bonnie Tyler and Neil Young and Crazy Horse Um way down in the Rustbucket film and double album There You Go, Daft Punk calls the quits after twenty eight years, and obviously, when it happens, they sell a whole bunch of more music. Oh yeah, all rats started dance and Taylor Swift's Love Story tops the charts. The new version of Love Story sits a top Billboards Hot Country Songs chart, so congratulations to her. I don't hear the differences, did you. I can hear it. I guess I just didn't listen enough to them side by side. I heard it on the radio, and I was like, Oh, I like the song. Her voice is just stronger. You can hear that, is it? Yeah? Thomas Thomas rests plan Billy Bob's a few times. So music is kind of happening again. Tina Turner has a documentary coming to HBO Max on March, and other news. Prosecutors dropped the d w I and reckless driving charges against Bruce Springsteen, which was a weird story anyway, Right, he wasn't drunk, just took a shot. He blew a point oh two point oh eight's the limit. But some fans gave him a shot while he was on his motorcycle right at a park and they're like, hey, take a shot with this. So he's like, all right, took a shot. Cop saw him do it, pulled him over. If that's the law and that's the rule, hey go and force It just seems like a dumb rule, like there should be if you blow a point away then that's you being intoxicated. Right, Why do we have a standard of It doesn't always matter, but anyway, it got dropped. There you go. Those are your new songs, new music and headlines. Now let's get into today's podcast interview. Style here with Brooke Eden. Brooke, it is good to see you. It's good to see you, Bobby. You know, I always feel like I know somebody until maybe the day before they come in and I do kind of a deep dive just to go, Okay, what if I missed over the years. And I guess we've done each other for about four or five years now, five or six here or something like that. I had no idea. And I because I work on American Idol now, I had no idea you one on that show. Oh my gosh, yeah, a long time ago, probably years ago. Who So that had to be the original crew it was. It was Randy, Paul and Simon. The cool thing about that experience is I met Mickey Guyton during that exact audition. Really yeah, Okay, let me ask some questions, mostly just about the process because it's changed, oh completely, because when you did it, it was a massive global phenomenon. We do it, We're like, we hope we get tim million people to watch, you know, it's just it's been around forever. We hope to pull in a good number. But when you did it, everybody talked about that show period. And so when you auditioned for that. It was still when they were having the big outside of arena. People are lined up forever. Cattle calls is what they called it. And you showed up to that, showed up to that. I was a senior in high school getting ready to go into my freshman year of college. And yeah, I showed up to Atlanta and there were I think fifteen thousand people that showed up. That crazy to think, is that not what it is anymore? No, it's different because you know a lot of people. They will reach out to us, going, hey, I've got I've build the big YouTube following this. He was just so different. Um, and yes, we'll do cattle calls as well, and they'll be five thousand people show up on a really good one. We'll be like, then, it's awesome. It's just different. Like then, it was not as much media to be able to consume. I mean, I got I was dominating the world. I just wondered if it was still you know, popping hard when you did it. Oh, it was popping hard. How do you mean? Mickey Guyton and I. So we got to the second round. Um, that day we were at the second round, they were like three people left and in Atlanta and my hair was out to space from the humidity of Atlanta in the middle of the summer, and my mom was with me because I was just turned eighteen, and she was like, oh god, honey, your hair is your hair is bad. It's real frizzy. And Mickey had heard her talking to me. It must have been loud enough, but Mickey was like, oh, poor girl. And she came up to me and was like, hey, sister, Like, what's up. Um, I just heard you talking about your hair. I completely understand. I have a hair straightener in my backpack. Do you want me to plug it into the wall? I will straighten your hair for you. And I was so like overwhelmed with We're kind of competing against each other right now and this girl just selfishly walks up to me and wants to straighten my hair for me, to like help me with my confidence walking into this audition. And I was just like, what a cool chick, And so she did. She straightened my hair for me. That day we auditioned together. We both got to Hollywood. We both spent a week out in l a and had the best Hollywood week together. And um, six years later, we I'm in Nashville out of songwriters around and Mickey shows up and goes and sits down at the table that I'm sitting at, and I saw her and was like Mickey, She's like, Brooke, like what are you doing here? Like American Idol? Like it had been seven years since we had seen each other, and we kept in touch with each other over social media, but it was the first time that we had seen each other. And She's like, I'm here now, and so it was just the coolest thing. Like she's always been such a comfort zone for me because she came into my life as a comfort zone, and so it was just so great to have her here in Nashville and and to have her, you know, women of Country events and all of those things, like she's she's an old friend at this point that that happened so many years ago and you both ended up here around the same time. Yeah. Yeah, so you go, you get the judges first of all. The producers said yes, yeah, because that's a big part of it. You have to get through producers before you ever get to go in front of Simon, Randy and Paula. The year that I went, there were six rounds before you got to Randy Fallins. I mean, yeah, yeah, now it's about two because the producers no, they want to or they know, Okay, you're cut out for this or you're not. You had to sing six times. Yeah, it was season seven, so it was you know, it was definitely at the beginning and I had to sing six different times. And then of course you know with Randy, Paul and Simon. It was just I was eighteen, I had not been out of my hometown like ever. What was that like seeing them in real life after watching them on TV as a young kid. The weirdest thing because they marked you down and you walk into this room, even when because right now the judges are Luke Brian, Katy Perry, and Lionel Richie, and they walk you down the room and these kids who are probably fans of Katy Perry totally, maybe a fan of Luke Brian, depending they like country music and and their parents are massive fans of Lionel Richie. But they look like because they're all so famous, you just look at them and you're like, oh my god, you're so rich and famous, and it's got to like set you back a little bit because their iconic feeling totally I think that was what was very um made me feel really vulnerable in that moment. Was why I like American idols so much now is because the judges are very nice. There's no fun of people. And at that time, I mean, Simon's whole spield was still making fun of everybody, you know, So I was really nervous about that. And that's what That's what intimidated me about them. Now, I'm sure it's the fact that these are people that everyone looks up to, but at least you know that they're not going to like shoot on you. They're gonna be cool and they're gonna, you know, help you. And so that's why I like the new direction that it's taken. But yeah, it was. It was definitely intimidating walking in front of people that knew anything about music, who knew you talking about that, people who knew anything. I guess your dad played in a small country band when you were a kid. Yeah, yeah, what was he a drummer? He's still Yeah, he's still in the Persuaders down in West Coffee and he's the drummer. And he also sings some songs, some like like he's he looks just sing low so he'll sing like some Toby Key heth and like, you know, maybe anything new it comes out. He likes to do, like he does buy me a boat, and he likes to sing loaf. So how old were you when you first got to go up and sing with his band. I was four. You were really young. I was really little. It was illegal, for sure. I was singing in like smoky bars I sang. The first place I sang with him was a place called Rhinestones. So you run these bars as a young kid. At what point when you're five, six, seven years old, You're like, Okay, this is just I just know this is what I want to do it. It was always it was instant for me because it was I was so young, and especially at that age, you're just like looking for approval from anyone, you know, And it was like you get up on stage and I was cute and I could hold a tune, so people thought it was awesome and I'm making people smile, and I'm like, that's that's addictive, you know. It's it's intoxicating to to make people happy with something that's coming out of you. And I think, you know, especially I grew up with shy Twain and Faith Hill and the Dixie Chicks and these incredible you know, female country singers and kind of just like emulating what I saw on CMT or heard on the radio, and you know, and getting to go out and do that in front of people and make them happy doing what I liked doing. It just seemed pretty clear to me that then's what I wanted to do, even when I was really small. When did you start to make money even playing in small bars on the weekends. Well, Dad started putting throwing out um, like his cowboy hat in the middle of the dance floor, and people started hipping me, like, actually it wasn't my dad that threw out a couple of hat. It was like somebody that was at the bar through a cowboy hat and like through five in and then people started tipping. And I mean I would walk home with like or not walk home. I would, you know, go home with from singing three songs as a kid, you know, And then I mean I didn't. I sang on the weekends with my dad, and then I started really making money when the country concert started to come through our amphitheater and I opened up for Alan Jackson and Brooks and done when I was twelve, same show, different shows, um, and I started making money, real money. Then were you able to meet them? Because sometimes when it happens, you're not able to meet the star. No, not at that point. So I was You're twelve years old, but you're opening. Do your friends go wow? Because people who watch it from afar and I find this to be with me as well. People are like, wow, it's so crazy you're doing all this stuff, and I'm like, man, if you really knew they the nuts and bolts of it, you would think it was that glamorous. It's not glitz and as much glitz and glam as everyone thinks it is. You're friends and you will be famous at twelve when you're opening for you know, back then it wasn't like country. It was cool like it is now, you know. So I think that my friends were like, oh, you're gonna go and sling country was like, you know, like they didn't think that it was cool like it is now. So I don't think they really cared that much. So you're from near West Palm, right I'm from. And so your dad's playing in a country band. When you start singing with him, I'm sure he loves it. But does he say, hey, this music career. I don't know if it's something you want to get into, or is he going, let's go. You got this. He was definitely um nervous for me to get into it. But he his whole thing was you can do whatever you want, but you have to go to college first. So in Florida, the Florida Lottery pays a lot of Bright Future scholarships for students who do well in high school. Wait, so tell me about that. I didn't. I don't know Florida. In Arkansas, we got nothing. You get you get some hay and they go up. You can't go to school, you need to go work with farm. Yeah, here's your hey. Uh yeah. So the Florida Lottery in Florida, they give all of the money that is not used to give to the lottery winner and it goes all into scholarships. It's called the Florida Bright Future Scholarship. And you got that and I got one of them. Yet, was it because your grades were so good or because you have like a like a talent show for the lottery people. No, it's it's for grades. It's all based on a Gonnamix so you're a smart kid. I tried really hard and you went to school at University of Florida. I did, which is awesome, right, It was so fun. I was there when Tim Tebow was there, so we got to do a lot of you know, just being there for SEC championships and and getting to see Tim do what he did. Were you there when they won a national championship? Yes? Yes, I was? And basketball one year two then you got a football and a basketball championship. Yeah, so jealous? Were you there? Do you remember when Tibo gave the speech after they lost and he's like, where no one's gonna work harder than us? Uh? And then they went and won the freaking national championship. You ever met him, by the way, Oh? Yeah, isn't he the greatest? He's so great. He's so great. He's he's the most dedicated person ever. He's a passionate guy all the time. If he's talking to you about something that you care about or something he cares about, like Tebow, he like stares a hole in you. He's so passionate. Just everything that I've ever seen about him on TV. I was like, I don't know about this guy. But then I met him now, I've met him a few times. I love him. He's a he's a good dude. I remember he was. He had just won the Heisman when I was just on American Idol, and that whole process was difficult for me. Um, just because the idol problem. What happened that wasn't good? Because I don't know anything about it? What happened that wasn't Yeah, Well, they just portrayed me in a way that wasn't me. The producers got you, the producers got me. Yeah, what happened? What? What? What did they portray you as? Uh, just kind of a it's okay, blonde hair or just point with it. Yeah. And you know, at the end of the day, everyone has a goofy side. I'm a total goofball, but that's not all that there is to me, and they kind of just just toned in on that. And you know, I'm out of school where it's all about academics, and all of a sudden, it's my freshman year and this huge global phenomenon of a show comes on and depicts me out in a certain way. I'm in all of these clubs, like all of these leadership clubs that are like really hard to get into and all of a sudden, people look at me in a completely different way, and it was really hard. And and Tim actually called me during that. We were friends, we had mutual friends, and he called me during that and he was like, girl, I see what they did here, and he was like, and you you gotta keep moving after this. He was like, you have the talent to do it, and I just want to let you know that I see you, and you just gotta keep going. I thought that was really nice. I thought it was really cool with him. But those are some life lessons you learned at an early age two of to not let people control your narrative. Bobby. Yes, I mean I was eighteen when I learned that, and it was a hard lesson to learn. But there's there's been a lot of lessons along the way that I hate that for you, but hopping on the show in those because they really won't do that now. I mean, just the landscape is completely different with that show. And I've only been involved for four years now, but that would never happen now. No, I mean that's I love I love American I don't know, I really do. It's and there's no hard feelings either they taught me they taught me lessons. I would have hard feelings, I'll be pissed. So you go to school and people see you and they're like, so, but then what happens at school? Are you do? You just write it out? Yeah? I mean you know, at the end of the day, that stuff goes away. And I was still who I was, and I still you know, I finished school, did I did my four years, and I moved after I graduated. I spent nine months in Florida. I started as a bartender. So you did graduate. I'm graduated. It's in business with a concentration and marketing and mass communication. Okay, so you did all that? Was that your dad going, hey, get a degree. But while you're learning, you're like, I'm just getting the degree so I can go do music totally. And the whole time that I was in college, I mean, really what what helped with all the American Idol stuff was after that I became I just became the singer for everything. So we did a lot of stuff with Children's Miracle Network. We had dance Marathon at my college and I sang that function every single year I was there. I got to open up for Leonard skinnerd my freshman year at Gator Growl at like our big Pepper rally, and I kind of just became like the singer of the school. And obviously I was going to school and getting getting a degree, but I was still doing me. So you finish, you want to go sing? When does it happen where you go? You know what's screw it? I gotta go to Nashville because that's where all the decisions are made. Totally well, I knew I had to get to Nashville, but the question was how. I Just I didn't have the financial anything to go, So I was like, how am I going to do this? So I was like, I know how to bartend. So I started bartending at our local line dancing bar and in Florida. In Florida, in West Palm, back in my hometown. I moved home, moved in with mom, like I'm going to be a roommate for the next year probably while I say about money to move to Nashville. And I had friends that went to this line dancing bar and I had grown up singing there, so I was like, cool, I'll see if I can bartend. Started bartending and started meeting a bunch of people who were spending a lot of time in Nashville and then spending time in West Palm and um, and I was singing out. I was bartending outside one day and there was a guy playing acoustic guitar and singing for like a happy hour kind of vibe. And he went on a break and I was like, Hey, do you mind if I play some guitar and sing? And he was like, I mean, you're the bartender. Can you do that? And I was like, yeah, that's what I do. But yeah, totally. He's like cool. So handing the guitar and I get up and I'm singing and in people are there? People are there? Yeah, And um my manager walks out and I'm like, oh no, I'm going to get in trouble. And he was like, girl, what are you doing? And I was like, I know. I just everyone's good at the bar. Swear. No one's walked in since I've been up here. It's all good. And he's like, no, what are you doing bartending here? And I was like, well, I'm trying to save up to move to Nashville. He's like, we can probably get you connected with some some places where you can be singing to earn money to move to Nashville. It's like sweet. So a month after that, I'm singing five nights a week, four hours a night, and that's a lot of singing. You know, your voice goes through a lot. It's growing, your muscles growing. And I think I was probably nine months into that and I see my dad crying in the audience of one of the tiki bars I'm singing at and I like, it was like, I'm gonna take a break. I get off stage. I'm like, Dad, what's up. He's like, honey, you've found your voice. So he was crying because he was moved, Yeah, with happiness. Yeah. He was like, you've you've found that thing in your voice that that makes you you. And he's like, I think it's time for you to move to Nashville. And I was like, oh, I haven't told you this, but I think it's time to move to Nashville too. I just found a roommate. So's your roommate? Is somebody still here? Yeah? Yeah, your friends, it's not just But how did you find a roommate? What was that situation? So I actually interned at G A C. Do you remember G A C. I do Great America Country the Channel. It was like yeah. So, um I interned there between junior and senior year of college just to see like do I love Nashville? Do I like Nashville? Is this the place that I want to live? And um, I was working there and during C M A Fest, my roommate was also working for G A C. Who wasn't my roommate at the time, but her name is Morgan and she um is from Nashville, and she was working there and we became great friends. And I contacted her to be like, hey, do you know anyone who's looking for a roommate in Nashville. She's like, actually, I'm looking for a roommate. I was like, Rod. So we she found us a place and we moved in. When you got to Nashville and you started to see other people that were just you from different parts of the country. Yeah, and they were elite at where they came from, and you're all starting to gather. Was that more intimidating or inspiring to you? So inspiring? It was awesome? Yeah. I Mean I grew up My hometown is strange. I don't know if you know this, but um, Cassidy Pope and I are from the same hometown. You know, I knew that you guys knew each other way back. I didn't know if it was way back in Nashville early days or if it was back home home, back home home. So Cassidy Pope, me and this huge writer who's written everything from Havana for Camilla Cabella to you know, justin Bieber Songs to what Doesn't Kill You Makes You Stronger for Kelly Clarkson. Her name is Ali tam Posey. She's in l A, She's killing it. And we're all from the same hometown and we all had the same voice teacher. So I kind of came from a place where you know, everyone around you is just so good and it's not about comparing yourself to anybody else. It's it's everyone has their own thing, you know, and if you don't have your own thing, that's kind of your that's kind of your problem, you know, Yeah, that's on you. So come to a city where you know, this whole town is just filled with people that are so good at what they do, everywhere, from artists to musicians to you know, people in the industry, and so to me, I felt like I had kind of found my zebras, you know, like you kind of find the people that that make you move and that inspire you. How long were you here until people started to notice you, maybe not as just a singer or just enough to go, hey, we may actually pay you to do this on a much much higher level because you gotta pay the bills. Here were you singing? Are you playing? The bars around? Music? Are broadaway? Yeah? So the original thing that I told my family was I'm gonna I'm gonna be in Nashville for two weeks out of the month, try to meet people and right, and then I'm gonna fly to Florida and do two weeks down there of still doing my normal show so I can still make money and not have a nine to five up in Nashville. So that was like the plan. And I did that for two and a half years until I'm my publishing deal. Did it for two and a half years. Yeah, you're flying back and forth? Oh yeah, Oh yeah, I had a lot of a lot of flying points. Um, But that's what you know, That's just I wanted to dedicate my whole life to music, and that was the only way I knew how to do that at that point. So I did it and it was just, you know, the flights weren't that bad. I had a connection in between um on the way they're and back, but they flew me right into some p b I, which is ten minutes from my house in West Palm. So are you doing here? Then? For those two weeks we playing Riders rounds? Were you I was meeting? Yeah? I was playing Riders rounds. I was going to Whiskey Jam. I was, you know, writing with people. The first night I got to Nashville, my dad wanted to go down to Tootsie's. So we got down there and a couple of beers in I somehow I end up on stage. I truly don't remember how it happened. I just remember being on stage and they were like, hey, do you want to do? You want a job here? After I sang a few songs and I was like, I don't know, I just got here. I don't know what what the hell I'm doing. And they're like, come to open auditions on Saturday. So I ended up going to open auditions and the band leader for all of like Tutsis and a bunch of the bars down there, his name was Greg Humphrey, and he was like, you know you're hired, like during the audition, and then afterwards he came up to me and he was like, honey, you know singing at tutsis this is honky Tonk school. And I have a feeling that you've already been to honky talk school, So what else do you want to do here in Nashville? And I was like, well, I've been writing by myself, but I really want to learn the Nashville way of writing a song. And he's like, what are you doing on Tuesday? I was like, I literally have no friends or plans, and he's like cool, So uh. We started writing together and he introduced me to a lot of his writing friends and then they're writing friends introduced me to that to theirs, and soon I had a riding community. Very quickly after I moved here, I had this writing community that I would come in. I would just book my own rights with my friends and we would go and write songs, and then I would go fly home to Florida and do shows and do it all over again. So you get a published and deal after being for two and a half years. That did that seem like an eternity two and a half years, and it's like or no, No, I didn't even feel ready at two and a half years, Yeah, because I got my publishing deal and then immediately got a record deal. And I will say that when I got to Nashville, I knew that I knew my voice, like I knew how to control my voice and what I wanted my voice to sound like. But I didn't really know like what I wanted to say yet or really what I wanted like the sound of my music to be. And that took me like eight years to figure that out. So when I got here and started getting offers at two and a half years, I didn't feel ready yet. But I just felt like this is the way that you know, this doesn't happen normally, so I just kind of have to go with the flow and figure it out along the way. I think the last time that we saw each other now one of the last time because I saw you and Hill, I've seen you guys out, yeah, But before that we did a show together and maybe Tuscaloosa, Alabama. Yeah, And I think that was the except for a couple of times that I've run to you in Hillary, that was the last time I had seen you music related, yeah, and I was always like, what's what's Brooke doing. It's been four years since you put out any music, so why why such a substantial amount of time. So I don't I don't think that you even know about this. But I'm on the road, you know, doing festival after festival. We're getting three hours of sleep at night for like five nights in a row, and it's crazy, and I'm like getting sick. I'll get sick before shows. I don't know what's going on. I'm going to my doctor. My iron was low and they were just giving me test after test and nothing was coming back conclusive. So after like four years of testing, they found out that I had ulcers in my small intestine. And my doctor was like, listen, there's no magic pill to to heal the us, Like you have to go home, nine hours of sleep at night, no alcohol intake, strict diet, like you can't be doing this on the road. You have to let yourself feel. So that's where it started, you know, it started with it was life or death kind of and it was like I needed to heal my body and take that time. And then it was right around that time that I met Hillary and my girlfriend Hillary, and like that changed my life drastically for the better. But it was still a lot that I had to figure out about me. And then at the same time, my record label was being bought out by a new company, so we had all new leaders that were coming into my record label, and those leaders were like, yo, girl, we love your voice. We don't feel like this music is you. Go and and do what you want to do. Go write the music that you want to write. And that was really the first time that anyone had said that to me. So the break and this sort of a lot of different variables, but um, health, getting my sound together, and then figuring out who the heck I was as a person. I'm so healthy now, I'm the healthiest I've ever been to that time. Is that? What did it? Time? And just chilling for a bit. Yeah. You know sometimes they say Tom Hall's all wounds, It's it could not be more true for me. I really needed that time. Did you meet Hillary Nashville? You had to meet her Nshville. Yeah, yeah, I met her Nashville. She actually worked on my promo team for for my radio team, and that's where we went. She did yeah, I guess when I knew her she works for Garth. Now, okay, yeah, I've only known her working for Garth. Yes, so I guess I did not know her when she was working a Broken Bow. Yeah. It was her first job when she got to town, and she loved it. I mean, of course it's it's a great place to be um a Broken Bow. But um Garth called. And when Garth calls, you just say yes, yes, yes, sir, yes the goat. I want to play before we go further. I want to play some of some new song here. This is no shade from Brooke Now they ain't no shade found. He want the clown on the end, body have no redking what it takes alone to live in the view And I'm bad shot the end of the day, fastball, when ain't no shade? Al right? Tell me we had the song? What does it mean to you? Like? What does it literally mean to you? Which does it literally means? Literally? Yes? She wrote it, by the way I did. Yeah, I wrote this with Stephen Leelson and Brandon Day over Zoom in the middle of the pandemic. It's a recent right there, It was a recent right Yeah. We actually we wrote it in July, three days before we were going into the studio, and um, we it was our first time writing, the three of us, so it's kind of like the recipe for not having not getting the song, and it was just the right recipe for getting the song in the end. And um, the song to me is about coming out of a dark place. So for me, coming out of a tumultuous relationship where you know, it's kind of like when you are in a relationship that isn't good, you don't realize it for a long time. You almost don't realize it until you're out of it. And um, my best friend was on her way to my house that day. She was with an entire U haul of all of her stuff because she had found out that her boyfriend of three years had cheated on her for the third time. Um, but this was just the first time that she felt strong enough that she could leave. And I was really proud of her that day. And all I wanted her to feel was not like I didn't want her to feel like she hated him, and I didn't want her to feel like she was mad at him. I just wanted her to feel like, I'm so past that you know, and I've been in that place before too. You know, I've been in that place where I've been in a relationship that wasn't right for me. And then you get out on the other side and you're like, man, there's there's no rain over here. I just I just had to pull myself from my underneath that cloud. Um. And so for me, you know, it was important for me to put out this song first because I feel like we all are kind of coming out from under a cloud of and I think that a lot of us had to kind of see parts of us that we didn't want to have to see last year. Just being able to to slow down and and the you had to slow down, there was there was no other possibility. And you know, I think that that that causes you to really get introspective and and see what your life is about. And I think that everyone had a hard time last year and seeing people you know, so sick around you puts you in a dark, dark place, and um, I just I wanted to bring some sunshine to people. And at think that this song has a lot of hope in it and a lot of light in it. Two other ones coming out, yeah, not out yet. This is the only one out yet. What's the plan with those other two? The next one comes out March five, it's called Sunroof, and the one after that comes out April nine, and that's called Got No Choice And those are both in the same vein sonically as far as you know, kind of like a retro soulful country sound. Um. All produced by Jesse Fraser, and you know, I just wanted it to feel happy and sunny and just like groovy vibe that makes you feel good and um. All of the songs definitely have meat in them where you know you can have a deep moment, but they're all kind of masked in this like happy sounding um sound. Well, I'm glad you're back. Thank you, Bobby. I'm glad you're back. You guys can follow at Brooke Eden Music. Check out No Shade or by the time you hear this, because this will be up almost immediately, but check out the new songs because you may be hearing there three or four months from now. You're not a podcast love they live forever. So I'm proud that you're back and healthy. And you know, I haven't seen you. I guess maybe c M as not this last year, but after them always awards. Maybe it's one of those awards of letters on it. I don't know it's one of those. But I'm glad you're back. Thank you so much. Congratulations and I'm happy to be here. I see a splash and I see it and everywhere, and it's great. It's it's great to see all right. There she is, Brooke, Good to talk to you. And back into a second. I saw this article about whether or not it's possible to retire off the royalties. Have a song, right, you're at a song, it's number one hit? Can you retire if you write a number one hit? Now, let's say you're a new artist like Jordan Davis and he's got that song if he ever singles you up song? Yeah, of course. Edie's here, by the way, what's up? You can't retire off of that? What I've heard a lot of different you know, Like, I'm gonna tell you why, because you got three writers for the most part, number one song roughly is a million dollars. You'll say you split it three ways, three dollars. You get published commes. You gotta get their their nut back first. You gotta get taxes taken out of it, So you're roughly gonna end up with like a hundred and eighty thousand dollars. Not bad, oh great, not saying that, but you're not able to retire off of it, off of a number one song, right, So tell me what nonsense you heard, now, No, that was it. That was gonna talk, I was gonna talk. I was gonna say that. Usually you split it three ways and then once everyone gets her cut. I mean I've heard less than that is mostly like around sixty thousand dollars is kind of your first number one check, Yes, your first because pay back all you're publishing. But here's the thing too, like you worry about you know how long these these songs are gonna last in people's minds. These number ones, Man, they come in, they fly, and people forget about them. So really you're just trying to get your bang for the buck right away as fast as you can. And if it's your first song. Let's say you have a publishing deal and they're paying you fifty grand to year to write, you gotta pay the fifty back. Yeah it's alone. You don't have to pay the loan back, but if you make any money, you have to pay the money back. You know, if you make no money ever, you don't owe them fIF and but they'll drop you. They'll be like, all right, you did nothing for us, thank you, but you got paid. You got So this whole article, which was on Celebrity net worth dot com says, listen, it's possible if you write a big one, right and so they also had this ten richest songs of all time, meaning these songs have produced enough money through royalties, endorsements, streams to make the songwriters and their errors at times extremely wealthy. So the list was interesting. I thought it deserved its own little segment here, and we do music segments like to bring Eddie in for this. So if you're interested in making a lot of money off songwriting, remember these three tricks right number one, Right a Christmas song, Oh, because you're gonna use it every year. It's gonna pop every year. It's a bit saturated now in country music because everybody's got a Christmas album, but if you can get one that hits, it's gonna stick around. And the original Christmas songs you can These aren't covers of jingle bills, These are the original I said, right a Christmas Songs. Number two, write a timeless love song because again, monster love songs from this unchained melody still make it money. Or get your song featured in a movie that's huge. And if you really want to hit the jackpot, right, a Christmas love song that gets put the trifecta. So let's look at the top ten richest songs of all times. Okay, here we go. Song royalties and one on one, Okay. Music royalties are payments that the rights holders that will be the songwriter, the composer, the recording artists that they get to license their music, right like I'm gonna sell you the music. You don't get to keep it knowing it, but you can use it for this amount of time. They usually say how much, how much time you can you have to use it, And they're paid out through people that use the music. TV channels, radio stations like our company has signed a deal to play music venues streaming platforms. Now, it's kind of wild West. We're trying to figure it out as we go because there are so many platforms popping up. Twitch had to pull a metallic a concert at the other day and played generic like Dopey elevantor music Well Metallica's rocking out because they don't have the rights to it and they don't want to get sued. So sometimes the user will pay royalties directly to the rights holders. There's later, there's just a lot. I just want to explain. There's a lot of ways money is moving around, but it's mostly licensed through You can borrow wit for this amount of time and this is how much it costs. But then it's back it's mind again and for the everyday person to like if you think, like, oh, I'm a nobody, I can just use this in my video or whatever. They've created such good technology now because back in the day it was a person. It was a person going to every bar and checking every jukebox and how many times this song played? And you know, like, are you paying license into you know, Alan Jackson for playing chattahoochi. Uh No, you're not. You're getting charged. But now there's there's such a good technology that it flags on the internet anywhere it's sold or anywhere it's you streamed or whatever. They know exactly when this song is played. There are two types of music rights. There's master and composition. Do you know the difference. I'm assuming composition is the songwriter, and then the master publisher songwriters and publishers, sure, and then masters is your artist recording that basically right, this gets into way many weeds, but I'm gonna try to keep it on the edge of the top of the You're doing a good job so far, thank you. So royalties are paid out for recording and for compositions. The water gets mercure, but I'm gonna drop it off. I'm just giving you that that giving you that base to go into. People have to understand that everyone wants a little bit out of what they put into that song. So that being said, that's the legal jargon. That's what you hear at the end of commercial. It's like no person necessary the department, and you might it's not all the way there, but just when people get it, okay, here we go. The ten richest songs of all time at number ten from ninety four, the Christmas song by meltorm A just nuts roasting on an open fire. He wrote the music. He wrote. That's why we all know the song. But he wrote it. Everybody keeps cutting this song. Every time they cut it, he gets the composition money for it. Somebody does. He's dead, right, but he gets it like he his his body, well his body is dead different. They got the money. Uh this this song never ten has made about twenty million dollars. An't that crazy? Roy Orbison and Billy D's when they did Pretty Woman in nineteen sixty four. So this song was massive when it was put out initially in the sixties, but then think about when the movie Pretty Woman comes out and it's basically the biggest movie the eighties. And I believe Van Halen covered this song too, was a pretty good hit for them. Interesting eighties. Boost your walk, I'm good for those. Uh it's it makes about a hundred two hundred thousand per year still fifty years later, but again it's made about twenty million bucks as well at number eight and there are some semi contemporary songs in here at number eight. Every Breath You Take Sting It was one of the biggest hits in nineteen three, spent eight weeks on the Billboard Hot one hundred. Every Breath You Take number twenty five at the top one hundred songs of all time. Puff Daddy put it I'll be missing You. You've got to give him a lot of credit. When this song was probably dying a little bit puffy brought it back to life. It produces about two thousand bucks a day or seven thousand dollars a year for Sting. He wrote it all by himself. It's amazing, isn't that crazy? One hundred so cool? That's that's because a lot of these are really old. That one is not, I mean relatively speaking. Three, Yeah, it's not bad. At number seven, Heaven Gillespie and Fred J. Coots. In four they wrote, Santa Claus has come into town making million bucks. Oh my goodness, it's we all know it everywhere? Did I craved this Christmas time? And every time I sing it, even when I'm by myself. I sent him a nickel? Somebody charges? At number six, Ben E. King, Jerry Lieber and Mike Stoler, they wrote stand by Me estimated arnies of the song twenty seven million dollars? Did you know? Twenty years later movies stand by Me is a big one? Was that? Uh? Was Morgan Freeman? No, that was? And then stand by Me as the Kids Going in the River Phoenix and Corey Filman, Um, did you know that? When? Of course you knew this, but and we cover because we cover the song raging idiots. When we play at the venue, they're supposed to document what we play, and if it's a cover, they submit it, and then Benny King and those two people that you mentioned get paid for us thing in that in the in the auditorium. Yeah, I mean it's not much, but they get something. What's supposed to happen is a set an official set list is given to the promoter supposed to happen, and then the promoter submits the set list. We're supposed to actively paid back for our own songs. I know, I don't know that that happens. Well, you know, because I met with I don't know, a publisher or something that I have a deal with or something, and they a couple of years back there like will you say well of your set lists? And like, of course I will, dude, two years after tour and I'm like, I didn't say one set lists? Oops. I mean I probably have someone word document. I probably fake it, you up. But we're playing published music, so that would mean we the masters the composition we wrote them. You should get paid for performing a music. I guess I should say those unless instead we give him to fans. Here you go take it Alex North and heyzer it in nineteen five Here you Go, unchained Melody Goody twenty seven point five million dollars um, thank you, Ghost and yeah what I was gonna say, thank you massive hit then Ghost and now it gets ran only brought into movies just period. In the love scene, John Lennon and Paul McCartney, Oh gosh wrote Yesterday nineteen sixty five estimated earnings thirty million dollars bones, And I wouldn't even say that this one is because of sink or like TV or anything like. I'm sure. I'm sure it's used sometimes, but I mean, I just think the Beatles just get streamed still so much suddenly, well the streaming. The Beatles have only been on streaming for a couple of years because they were one of the last ones to go and downloads. Yeah, I was a big deal on Spotify and Apple Music finally got him. They're making money now, I'm sure, but I don't know. I don't know. I think it's a bit of of all. I don't know that their digital money is crushing like you would think, because I can't think of a like a movie scene or anything where I've heard Yesterday, I mean, the Beatles was just bought so much. But you're right, I don't know. You know. The crazy thing about this, Paul McCartney, for the most part, says he wrote this whole song right, but they had a deal McCartney Lennon to both be Lenda McCartney when they wrote the song. And I didn't know that. And so Paul McCartney wrote most a song and he went to Yoko after a He's like, hey, can we switch this. Let's be honest. I wrote the whole song and Yoka was like, no, keeping it Lenna McCartney. She's made millions off royalties. So but yeah, I don't know. I can't think of a movie. They made that whole movie called Yesterday Watch pretty terrible. Yeah, I remember mikel I was like, it looks great. The guy like knows the Beatles and nobody else does. Right, it's awful, And I was like, I can't wait to watch these, like don't watch like you can wait. Barry Manilow, Cynthia Wheel and Phil Specter wrote, you've lost that love and feeling movies galore? Who sings that song? They ever? Right? Maybe maybe That's what I'm just going by sometimes you're coming out of my head. Mike, who wrote who sings? You lost that loving feelings? The Righteous Brothers? It was when you mentioned these writers, I'm like, really, these guys wrote that song. Yeah, it's not very man, it's very man, Okay. I was like, Barry Manila wrote this song. Mind, I just sometimes halfway to the word, I give up Sometimes reading I just go to the next time. And then it doesn't matter what you're talking about. When you say Phil Specter, my mind just goes to, like, whoa that dude of murder? Right husband and wife's songwriters any Man and Cynthia will wrote the song with producer and convicted murderer. He may have died recently, he's dead really still spect The Righteous Brothers. It was a top gun right. It was already hit the top dang most played song in radio history. This is did you know that? That's pretty cool? We should play it tomorrow on the show. Hey, we don't give we have two songs left. Eddie, any guesses as to it's tough. It's I'm just like going, Hey, guess number one through a thousand? Yeah, I know number you guess one thousand, one through a thousand. I go for you six six. Anyway, can you name either one of these? I'm gonna have to just lean towards a Christmas song for one of them. Guess, guess the Christmas song that you think you would put on. I would go with Mariah Carey's didn't make the top ten. I'm sure it's made of a bunch of money. You're right. One of them is a Christmas song at number two. White Christmas that was on my Mind by Irving Berlin has made thirty six million dollars. Excuse me. One writer must have been a Hollywood writer because they made They made that for a movie. No song captures the heart of the holidays like White Christmas. This is iconic. It's also ironic when you consider the fact that it was written by Jewish immigrant from Russia being Crosby's version is by far the most famous, but countless artists have recorded it. Over a hundred million copies sold worldwide. It's pretty ironic. What song is known to everyone is number one? It's made fifty million. It's the most it's made more, I mean, thirty six is to fifties number one. What song in royalties has made fifty million dollars? It brings in five thousand dollars a day two million a year in royalties. It costs two dollars used this next song in a movie or TV show, which is often why you see actors sing an odd, changed up version of it on screen. This also explains why chain restaurants sing their own custom version. Chain read. There's a lot of good hints in there. You may not even realize this, but it's technically illegal to sing this song in a large group of unrelated people, like an office party without paying a royalty. Got it, but I know what it is. But this has got to be free by now right. No. They copyright for Happy Birthday expires in twenty thirty in the United States, and I believe it has expired in Europe already. I believe so, like two thousand, sixteen seventeen, it ended there to two thousand thirty. We're almost there. But then you can have a happy birthday. Here you go, your number one song. It was written happy Birthday. M hmm, original, that's the original on piano for their words to it, Nope, oh oh, they like Scooby doo ay. So the person who did the words though, should probably get a little bit of credit to right, because like whenever part of the happy Birthday song is like happy birthday, dear Bobby. Like that's unique. This guy just sounds like you're just doing on the piano. Who's who's the first guy that said we gotta put a name right in there. I don't know who woute the words? Do you, Mike? I don't know what if those aren't even the fishing words. Guys like, that's the dumbest thing I ever heard. There you go, those are your big money maker songs. So write you a song it's about Christmas, or it's a love song, or that's about fall in love Christmas. Should we just rewrite happy birthday? At some point we have done that happy birthday to yea happy birthday, and then Chili's as a happy happy birthday, you know, and then it too or think that's it. Everything else failed? Eddie. Promote your podcast, Buddy Sore Losers Podcast, Me lunch Box and Ray. We're just three dudes talking about sports and among other things, we like to gamble. It's a fun podcast, guaranteed to laugh over it being stupid, funny whatever, No, you'll laugh. I mean we say some of the most outrageous stuff that we're just like, we would come up with this crap. You guaranteed it, though, I'm telling you, we'll make you laugh, like I about go back and listen and like this is the dumbest thing I ever heard. I'm laughing. All right, there you go, Sore Losers. Do you ever think you guys branch off and just go to your own thing? Ah? Yeah, yeah, I think so. I think we both have. We all have like our unique things that we could branch off to. No, no, I'm saying the Sore Losers leads biy Bone show. I'll stop it. No, I'm serious, stop it. No, I think that I think we're onto something. I think you're talking just just you risk it. No, you have to take it. Step back sometimes take a step forward. And they have been talking to us about possibly going on like Fox Sports and doing an episode and seeing how it works, so we'll see. I don't know, I love it and then you go, you guys can go and save me some money on this budget here and yeah, no I like it here. Stop that. Yeah alright, check out the store lasers by everybody m