A Final Salute to the Seahawks with Mina Kimes

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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where Nina Chimes and our Seahawks got revenge eleven years later.

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Speaker 2: I'm Greg Rosenthal.

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Speaker 1: It's NFL Daily, our first show after the Super Bowl, and this is going to be a tradition.

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Speaker 2: Nina. We had bo Wolf on on.

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Speaker 1: The first show after the Eagles won last year, and I want to have someone who can just revel in their team winning the Super Bowl and provide great analysis. Thank you for coming on during a time of the year. I'm sure you're ready to go hibernate.

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Speaker 3: That's okay, glad to be here. I was at Disneyland all day yesterday, yes which was really fun actually because I've never seen the whole MVP parade moment, and we were on set, like on Main Street, and the parade float was like literally coming up to our set, which was a very cool experience. And then Darnold and Walker, who's the actual MVP, joined the show, and so that was a very special moment that I was excited to see firsthand. But I am also excited to just kind of to remble in it because I have really because I went live right after the game and Ben and I were trying to break down everything that happened, but I haven't had a chance to take it all in.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I wanted. I wanted to start there at Disneyland. I should have said that, Yeah, this this show, maybe the Chris Westling podcast studio which you taped from on Sunday Night.

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Speaker 2: We'll get to that.

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Speaker 1: Maybe that was the happiest place on Earth Sunday night. I guess not, though, because it's a different vibe when you have to work right afterwards.

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Speaker 2: But what is that like?

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Speaker 1: What was it like for you at Disneyland, because you're there in a professional capacity, but it's also like your team and it's Darnold and it's Walker. It's a it's a coold moment professionally and as a family.

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Speaker 3: I would imagine my kid was also there for the first time. Wow, I came by and actually met my teammate, like my NFL Live cast members, which was a very That was actually probably the moment of the day for me personally, but it was called. The other thing I'll say is there was just so many Seahawks fans there. I always wondered about how that works per se, right, Like if you're a fan of a team, when do you decide to go to Disneyland because you're not booking that trip like that feels like Hubris I enjoy so And yeah, it was very overrun. It felt like you could speak to this too. San Francisco was just overwhelmingly Seahawks fans, and obviously it's yeah, it's pretty close to San Francisco and that makes a difference. But all week long we were at the pier and it felt like an eighty to twenty Seahawks to Patriots ratio behind us.

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Speaker 1: I didn't feel it during the week as much, maybe just because of where we were downtown, like it just seemed like there was plenty of both. But I cannot remember a stadium for the post game MVP and Lombardy presentation.

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Speaker 2: That was that packed and that loud.

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Speaker 1: It felt like no one had left, especially at the ends of the stadium. It was like three quarters still full and you've been there.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 1: I believe for various Super Bowls afterwards, like usually that that thing clears out so much and it's just it's just like the Bottom Bowl and the die hards. But everyone was reveling in it, and it was obvious I'm sure from the TV copy, like how it was just all Seahawks fans at the game like it was the saddest Super Bowl. I mean, the saddest touchdown maybe in NFL history. My wife Emica, who was there, was that Remandre touchdown at the end because like the shocks fans didn't didn't care by the end, but no Patriots.

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Speaker 2: Fans that were even still left. I saw some leaving.

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Speaker 1: We're cheering, So it was just like a totally silent, terrible touchdown moment.

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Speaker 3: The yeah, the Touchdow. It's funny because people have been asking me like when did you know? And I've been giving like like actually really early in the game, but I mean disrespect it was pretty obvious. But the other thing I've been at is like, did you get nervous at all when they scored? And I was like, well, after Mike Rabel didn't go two, I thought, uh, just kidding, but it was in it. It was such an interesting drive, right Greg, because Greg Drake May hit like the two best throws of the entire game by either corterrac on that drive and then comes back out and there was a small part to me that thought, if May scores again here and he's actually like they've like turned it up. He could be a legend, like I'd be crazy come back. But I also thought those were both two pretty low percentage throws. One was into like traveler, like five guys in the middle of field and he hits Hollins on the m breaker. And then the other one was just a go ball right against Woollan. But it was a great throw, great catch, contested whatnot. I just thought the likelihood of them doing it again was very low, and that proved to be the case because he turned it over the next drive. I'm trying the same to hit the same part of the field too, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, I won I want to get into the game of it all, like was it a good game? That is interesting because it was definitely my fandom. That probably made me feel differently that since it just kept being two scores and the Patriots defense kept playing so well, I just kept thinking, I've watched enough games where it's like two scores and the team that should be winning by forty like often let the other team come back.

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Speaker 3: You know, went through my head because I was I covered the Falcons pat super Bowl twenty eighty two, and I was in the press box for that game planning on like what piece I would write, and you know, staying till the end when the Patriots started coming back in that game. One of the things that made me think it was possible was how much Atlanta's defense had been on the field or very because hilariously, hilariously of your Falcons fan, I'm sorry, you're like, why the hell are you bringing this up? The Falcons scored too fast in those games and the time of possession. I remember checking the time of possession and thinking like, that's not good, right, Like this is a tired defense. Whereas Seattle, while the offense it was not their best day, particularly the passing attack. Of course, they were able to put together some drives, and Seattle was just getting off the field so quickly every time that I thought, Okay, they're still fresh. The other thing about the Seahawks pass rush is that they've got waves of guys, so you know, you're able to mix it up and substitute. And I just didn't feel that same panic about the defense that I did. Obviously it was also much better defense in Atlanta, but yeah, I think just that was something that occurred to me watching the game. I don't think I checked the time possession, but I remember thinking like, I don't think they're tired right now.

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Speaker 1: They were winning the total plays battle too, which to me is even more telling than time of possession pretty significantly even at halftime, and then it got worse. You're right, they really felt it, like the punt on fourth and one and really just the three and out to start the second half, even though I was holding out hope, like still while like it stayed two scores until like basically the moment may fumbled at twelve nothing and then they cast that in.

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Speaker 2: I was still holding up hope.

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Speaker 1: When they came out a halftime and just went three and out, I was like, Okay, it's probably not happening. I sort of convinced myself like maybe they come out in the second half and it's gonna be different, And it brings up a larger question.

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Speaker 2: I've heard a lot of.

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Speaker 1: Kind of casual fans and maybe some big fans that they want a better game, just talking about what a bad super Bowl was, and maybe it's just being there, and maybe it's just like I like different types of games because it's the super Bowl that adds so much weight to it, and I was enjoying their defense just dominate and I was enjoying, like the Patriots just scratching and clining on defense and holding on for dear life and kind of the game theory and everything else that was going on it, and it looked different that I was like, Okay, this is a different sort of super Bowl, and it would have needed the Patriots to come back a little and more to happen for it to be like a great super Bowl. But I thought people are being too hard in the game. Like I like a little bit of a different style of game, and it was very typical Seahawks game for this season. I ran through all the games that were like this for them, whether it was the Panthers or the Falcons. There was like two more where it was just like this, kind of like the Colt scheme, like where it kind of looked like a Seahawks game, And like, I didn't hate it. I thought people were being too hard on it. And ultimately the Seahawks team was just so bad ass that it's hard not to appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: I think people's understanding of the Seahawks was pretty worked by the NFC championship too. Like you said, this is how they want a lot of games this season leaning very heavily on the defense and the offense kind of just doing enough. And so people watch the NFC Championship and thought, ooh, like bombs away Seattle. The offense is like, you know, we should get like this great performance on both sides of the ball. On that this game was very indicative of who they were for the second half of the season, the difference being I would say the Sam Darnold protected football and mitigated pressure better than he did in the second season, which he deserves a ton of credit for that. In my mind, the one thing I'll say about like, was this a good game? I would argue this was a much better setting aside my own personal enjoyment and feeling pretty chill, as evidence by fact I told you I thought it was over early. I think this was a lot better than the forty the Broncos Super Bowl forty eight, Yes, because you know that one. It just didn't feel like Denver put up a fight. And to your point, the Patriots defense really put up a fight in this and made some impressive plays. And also that Broncos offense was just so outmatched. Not that obviously the Patriots offense was very outmatched, but I wasn't watching this game thinking like, Wow, this Patriots offense stinks. I know, that's how everybody is talking about it. I was watching most of the game thinking like, this is how good Seattle's defense is. And again, I think that was affected by the NTCY Championship because people kind of misunderstood how the Seattle defense had looked all season long after watching Matthew Stafford in the Rams, who were able to, I think, tear it up for some reasons that are a little bit more complicated than Matthew Stafford is just you know, an amazing, credible older quarterback who's experienced.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the receivers, the familiarity, and his ability to hit some of those throws, like the throw that May had to Holland's. I was so glad he had those two throws in a row, just as a Drake Megan just to have just to have something positive out of just a miserable postseason for him.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think Kyle Shanahan put it best at Super Bowl Leak when he said, you know, because the Seahawks have completely demolished his offense, which, by the way, outside of the Seahawks game was a top five offense. In f ball this year and the Seahawks blanks them shut him down right. But Kyle said, I saw a great quote like, look, if you can't run on there too high, you got no chance. And going back and watching, I wish I had emphasized this a little bit more going into the game. The Rams A lot of those big Stafford lit them up with play action in that game, and most of those throws. Because I went back and I watched them all to try to be like, can the Patriots approximate this to any degree? A lot of them the Seahawks would show too high but then rotate the safety down very quickly, and so he was able to get the same. The Peaks just had zero respect for New England's run game. And I think if I would go back and like kind of rethink this, you know, you know, I picked you out to win, obviously like everybody else. But I think the thing that was very clear in this very early is if you can't run on this defense, you are dead in the water. And Patriots were dead in the water, and I.

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Speaker 1: Thought, yeah, I thought they they should have been a little more or patient or tried it more, even to start the second half. It's like the first run that they have they popped for it was like a six yard run on second and ten, and that's the only run that drive. And then the next the next drive to get nine on first down, and they can't pick up first down on a second and one with Trevion and they throw on third and one, and then at that point like the running game.

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Speaker 2: Was over for the rest of the day.

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Speaker 1: Then again, you're trying to run on Byron Murphy who we had on after the show, and Leonard Williams, and it's just like there were mismatches all around. So I think it was a we didn't emphasize this enough that I think it was a bad Patriots coaching performances. That was.

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Speaker 3: I went hard on McDaniels after the game also, like why wait so long to start tossing it to Henderson? Like that was something I thought they would do. There were a couple of things I thought they would do in this game. One was the jumbo the sixth offensive line, which they did once and hit a twenty one yard past to Booty and then never went back to it. The tosses to Henderson, I thought we would see a lot of pony, which is funny because like it goes back to the last the last Patriots iteration, the team that played the Seahawks the last time that was the big pony personnel team. Barely it was this there was like eleven vast I think eighty percent of the time May in the gun. I did not in any game all season with them around by design. I did not understand the game plan. I thought Josh McDaniels really struggled in this one.

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Speaker 1: I think they would have had to play well and had the right game plan to make it competitive, and they probably still would have lose. We find out afterwards May gets a pain killing injection. I had heard after the AFC Championship, like that was a little more of a thing. I believe that he got an MRI on it, which I don't know if it ever got out there, but you know, he was playing. But for him to end up with the worst EPA since they started keeping track of EPA worst.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't mean like if a game. Yeah, for the.

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Speaker 2: Playoff run, it's a tough way. It's a tough way for.

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Speaker 1: It to end, and there's no promise that you get back there. Ali Connolly points out that only one quarterback has ever won the Super Bowl after like losing the first Super Bowl he went.

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Speaker 3: To, Although sony quarterbacks have been back to the Super.

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Speaker 2: Bowl, probably not, probably not that that many.

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Speaker 1: Obviously, Jim Kelly, you know, stands out as when who kept getting back and back, But Jalen Hurts did it, did it one time. I do want to get into the fan of it all, because, like I said, this is a tradition.

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Speaker 2: We're going to do this show hopefully after every Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: One of my least favorite parts of Top Chef and we both love Top Chef Mia, is they move on so fast right the season ends. It's this big culmination and they win, and we got like one one minute of them drinking champagne afterwards and celebrate, and it's like, I need a whole post game show. I want, I want like a half hour of them talking about it. And so that's this version of the show. And so I'm going to have you relive the end of this game. Let's actually listen to Steve Rabel, the the k I r O announcer, calling the end of the Seahawks.

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Speaker 2: Game three two one.

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Speaker 4: But Seyhawks, they're bringing it home again for a second time in less than twelve years. But Seahawks win Super Bowl sixteen. They are bringing ulla party back to the Northwest, and the party begins at Levon Stadium and in Seattle and it won't stop four days.

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Speaker 1: I love that shot of Mike McDonald just looking up into the sky. Give me a little bit of how like you fell at that moment, and then just how this this team, Mike McDonald like makes you feel as someone who's rooted for the Seahawks your life.

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Speaker 3: I just love that the team one in a way though, was so representative of their identity and their coach.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 3: You know, he I voted from Coach of the Year.

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Speaker 2: Me too, I didn't have a vote, but that big.

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Speaker 3: I mean, the turnaround he's done with this defense is remarkable. People forget how bad the defense was the year before he became the head coach, it was twenty eighth. To go from that to not only the best in the NFL, but to win in dominant fashion, to be the story of the Super Bowl is just a testament to his coaching. You know, I thought he had some brilliant calls in this game, but also like when you watch all these players and lug Schneider's done a fantastic job of not just drafting guys, but the free agency they've signed have been really impactful. The trade I've mentioned Ernest, like the trade Ernest Jones, all of the pieces coming together. But you know, to see how much these players have developed and how well they fit and how well they played together, I think that was the big takeaway watching them all game. The way I would describe this Seahawks' defense is watching it makes this this version. Watching it makes me feel like I do when I watch the Shanahan McVay offenses, where you feel one they're completely dictating to offenses and confusing them and attacking tendencies protection lapses. But the way they all play together, I thought it was just so on display in this game. The way the pressures are so coordinated. They're like this beautiful ballet right the way the second if they send pressure, a guys just seems to be always in position to make the tackle. Josh Job like everybody talks about like the first rounders and the you know, Joshob made one of the best tackles of the game. You know, they've got guys like Akata and Thomas who are undrafted, So I just think you watch them, it's just you know, there's certain defenses where you watch them and you're like, wow, that is just it's Miles Garrett, he's an alien, or you know Max Grasby or whatever. But when you watch this defense, you feel the coaching eminent through the play and they really are orle of who he is and why his hire was so transformational.

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Speaker 1: I have so much I want to comment on from that, but I can't let Okata go by. How about him revealing that he's part of the Asian American.

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Speaker 2: We had a few you can take him.

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Speaker 3: How did I not know Jason Myers was part Filipino until.

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Speaker 2: I didn't know that. You're you're taking that news.

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Speaker 3: We got, we got a success story. We're gonna we just need one eighth is enough? We will claim you.

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker 1: I think Tayo Kata, for those listening, said that his great grandfather was Japanese athlete and uh before it moved over so that the name makes sense. McDonald. He was brought in as this answer to the Shanahan tree in that division, specifically after taking down Purty in that in that great game against the forty nine ers, that that ruined Perty's MVP chances, and he really has been like a one, one man answer to it, because look, other people from that tree are are getting jobs Anthony Weaver and Dinard Wilson with like varying levels of success. Jesse Mentor's part of that tree, I would say, and he's going to be the Ravens head coach. But when I started hearing after the game, like Devin Witherspoon talking about how they had a bit of a tip from their coaches of how the Patriots.

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Speaker 2: Offensive linemen were aligned.

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Speaker 1: He talked about that on serious radio and that they really felt like they knew run, pass and different things. I mean, that's to me, that's he has obviously no similarity, like there's a lot of differences between him and Belichick, but that was just like the type of stuff that would happen after a Belichick Super Bowl, where it's not all about just rallying the troops. He's just giving you these little edges of how his guys can win.

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Speaker 3: I have heard from multiple people in that the staff and then with players that Witherspoon is like his his guy, like his aptar in the field, the guy who challenges him meetings and you know, obviously Moore, He's gotten a lot of love this year. You know how I feel about like Leo Williams, Byron Murphy was excellent in this game, but like, I also love that Devin Witherspoon was the shining star of the Like he really had a strong MVP case. And I don't object to Walker getting it because I thought he was extraordinary as well, and they don't win this game without him. And I also think, you know, the greatest company he could play the sex defense is it was impossible to pick one player because there were so many good players, which is very cool and again reflects who they are. But for him to pick Witherspoon, and I'm sure you guys talked about everybody's talked about how they broke some of their tendencies with having him blitz and the way he blitzed and the way they were attacking them, very cool, I thought, because he is a really unique player and part of you know, that draft class with him and Jayson is going to go down in Seahawk's history is one of the Alzheimer's.

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Speaker 1: It's really crazy to think Schneider was a little bit on the hot seat.

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Speaker 2: A couple of years ago, like that.

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Speaker 3: Had horrible drafts for like five years. Yes, and this is really a case. And then he's been on a freaking heater right for another like the last four years, I would say, and really, like I know there's all this discourse now like you gotta wait for quarterbacks. Look at jam Darnold, you know, development takes time. How about GMS, Like how about because he was unbelievable early in his career at the Seahawks, then total drought from like thirteen to seventeen ish eighteen or no, no more lone anyways, go look up his drafts and then turned it around completely and it just goes to show you like maybe you need you gotta give GMS some patience too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and drafts kind of come and go. But it is crazy to think about like a j Barner as a fourth round pick gets slept on a little bit like the veteran pickups that they had, including just finding guys in McDonald.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure as a part of that in Josh.

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Speaker 1: Job are taking Pete's guys and making them better, like a Kobe Bryant.

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Speaker 2: You guys do have.

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Speaker 1: Some key free agents, uh, Job Bryant and Riq that's like three sixth of essentially a starting secondary. They're all they're all free agents. Ken Walker is a free agent. I think they might tag him, Like what do you think about them? Like moving forward?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Reek is a tricky one because I think he's I think he's he's become underrated, but he's also not who he seemed. I think he's not as good as maybe it seemed early in the career or like A. He's not like A like he's just he is. There's a gettable aspect and obviously the penalties whatever, But I also think he's like there's he for much of the season he was excellent that I think job. I suspect they can get a deal done pretty reasonably, and I wouldn't be surprised if they keep him. Woolen's harder to project.

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Speaker 1: To me, he feels like he's gone, he'll be gone Locker. I think they'll keep her. She Heats, a free agent, will also be tough to keep. I think ye he could. He could be one of those those players that like the home like Seahawks fans will just remember so fondly. Not that he even had a ton of receiving production for the Seahawks.

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Speaker 2: But basically you trade.

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Speaker 1: For him and then he makes two or three just monster plays to help you get a championship.

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Speaker 2: Q rating will be one hundred forever.

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Speaker 3: Great personality, great locker room guy. I would also argue he had a lot of hidden impact, not just the special teams. But this is super nerdy, but one of the things Seattle dramatically improved at after trading him was running out of the gun with three wide receivers on the field. They were from being one of the worst in football to one of the like a top five success rate, And to me, a lot of that reflected Defenses actually have to respect a second receiver. So even if they were to move on from him, I think you'd probably want to add speed at the receiver position. I know Tory Horton got hurt this year, so that's kind of maybe they feel confident that he can replace that production. But that's something that is quietly important.

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Speaker 2: Mm hm.

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Speaker 1: You uh, you've been on a journey. It's been eleven years since your last Super Bowl title.

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Speaker 2: Probably we had to get you doing this.

00:24:21
Speaker 1: By the way, like next time around, you know your son will be like almost entering high school. If if it's if it's an eleven year thing, my kids will be in college or out of it.

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Speaker 2: So it's like we gotta we gotta mark these moments in time.

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Speaker 1: I wonder about your journey though with Donald, you know, like I remember you as one of the Donald.

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Speaker 2: Hot like it was such a big Donald hive.

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Speaker 3: And Niser's is what we called ourselves. Me Orlowski, Jeremiah, Daniel Jeremiah.

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Speaker 2: I mean, who knows, Like Tice, I feel like was in there. Maybe he was a big darnold guy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we just didn't. I didn't know him, I think when this all start.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, and you guys always kind of carried the flag that like you weren't going to give up on him now now to see And it's complicated because you're also a big, big Geno fan in me and you both you know, did not like seeing that move.

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Speaker 2: Thought it was gonna be a downgrade.

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Speaker 1: I mean, just just as a fan, your journey with Donald is so complicated.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because I've been getting I'm getting a lot of like you were like Sam's biggest hater. It was actually the take that's going around. It was even before they signed Darnald. It was about Gino. I was just like, I don't think they should move on from Gino Smith. It wasn't And I think for Donald, though I'm not going to pretend like I wasn't skeptical, my skepticism was actually pretty specific. I thought the c X offensive line had been such a disaster for five plus years more than that, and I thought putting him behind this the Seattle offensive line that I had watched for years was a risky proposition. What I think I underestimated. There's a lot of things I underestimated, but I would say the biggest thing I underestimated was how much having held ab Lucas healthy the entire season and then the draft, drafting a guard in Gray's abel, coupled with an offensive coordinator who would actually protect the line, would create a much more favorable quarterbacking environment for him. And that's something Seattle recognized and they understood. They saw how well he fit the Kubiak system and how much the Kubik system could in turn help the run game, not the run, more so the offensive line, and that I think was the biggest The Seattle defense we all knew would be good. They were awesome, but for the offense was I was very skeptical of whether that would all come together based on what I had seen from this line. And yeah, it was really really cool to see him thrive in improved circumstances because the talent has always been there, the arm talent has always been there. The athleticism has always been something I've liked of his game, and arguably that was his biggest attribute in the Super Bowl. Uh So, and he's just like a super super grounded, down to earth, solid guy. So it's hard not to root for him.

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Speaker 1: Right, I was gonna say it took. It took my four minute interview after the game, and he's just a swell guy. You can you can see, you can see why people would want to root for him, And you're right, despite all that, Like the Seahawks offense line is still probably their weakness, Like they still need to maybe improve a little bit on.

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Speaker 2: The interior, I think a couple of spots.

00:27:35
Speaker 1: But he handled the pressure so well in the NFC Championship game and that was like a huge difference in the Super Bowl. You're you're a true friend who knows, who knows what what our lives will be like the next time the Super Maybe they maybe they won't take eleven.

00:27:51
Speaker 3: Next year might be in La We'll see that.

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Speaker 1: That would be a beautiful thing. Thank you, Mina. I I loved having you on. I I wanted to revel in it a little bit more before we start start turning the page. What what do you think the mindset, by the way is, I'm just remembering this happened of the Seahawks fan I saw Monday morning at the hotel in a Gino Smith, Jersey. It's just like wow, it's just like a bold move for the day after that Super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: That is Yeah, that's I don't know if that's something I would do. I did see a lot of Jets fans do a lot, but like five or six Jets fans in Donald jerseys at sealand that I I like that movie is fun.

00:28:36
Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw I saw a Donald Jets jersey at the game. I didn't see any Donald forty nine Ers jersey. That's what that would have been a deep.

00:28:44
Speaker 3: Deep pull little Arnald Panthers action.

00:28:46
Speaker 1: I kind of forgot Clint Kobyak and Donald had that year to Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, ye should have need should have known, we should have seen it coming.

00:28:54
Speaker 2: Appreciate youa Mina.

00:28:55
Speaker 1: Obviously, everyone can check out the Mina Chimes show featuring Lenny and quite often Ben Solac, who does a great job too. You know, I don't know if he's getting mad at Leny Lenny. He's not in the title.

00:29:05
Speaker 2: They were. You were in the studio, you were in our studio after the game was great.

00:29:10
Speaker 3: You're coming in well network. Yeah, we're teammates now, so hopefully I'll be in that studio a bit more.

00:29:16
Speaker 1: It's all happening. Yeah, hopefully we can. We can do some of that together. We will be back. Thank you mean on oh, I'm losing track of the days here. On Thursday, Ollie Connolly, we're gonna get into the free agent rankings. We're gonna be doing some tight ends. We have a conversation we did last week with Isaiah. Likely we'll hit some news.

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Speaker 2: We'll see you then, But in the meantime, enjoy Seahawks fans sealing.