147 | Exploring the Therapeutic Use of Board Games in a Child-Centered Playroom
Play Therapy Podcast: A Master-Class in Child-Centered Play Therapy
In today's episode, I answer a question from Summer in Illinois. She asked about the use of board games in the playroom. As a tool in child-centered play therapy, board games serve as a conduit for emotional growth, problem-solving, and social interaction. This episode's content highlights how the structured nature of board games can be leveraged to foster meaningful therapeutic outcomes. I also go over the most common questions I get about board games in the playroom, such as cheating, power and control, and how it applies to my concept of the "power pendulum." If you would like to ask me questions directly, check out www.ccptcollective.com, where I host two weekly Zoom calls filled with advanced CCPT case studies and session reviews, as well as member Q&A. You can take advantage of the two-week free trial to see if the CCPT Collective is right for you. Ask Me Questions: Call (813) 812-5525, or email: brenna@thekidcounselor.com Brenna's CCPT Hub: https://www.playtherapynow.com CCPT Collective (online community exclusively for CCPTs): https://ccptcollective.com Podcast HQ: https://www.playtherapypodcast.com APT Approved Play Therapy CE courses: https://childcenteredtraining.com Twitter: @thekidcounselor https://twitter.com/thekidcounselor Facebook: https://facebook.com/playtherapypodcast References: Cochran, N., Nordling, W., & Cochran, J. (2010). Child-Centered Play Therapy (1st ed.). Wiley. VanFleet, R., Sywulak, A. E., & Sniscak, C. C. (2010). Child-centered play therapy. Guilford Press. Landreth, G. L. (2002). Play therapy: The art of the relationship (2nd ed.). Brunner-Routledge. Bratton, S. C., Landreth, G. L., Kellam, T., & Blackard, S. R. (2006). Child parent relationship therapy (CPRT) treatment manual: A 10-session filial therapy model for training parents. Routledge/Taylor & Francis Group. Benedict, Helen. Themes in Play Therapy. Used with permission to Heartland Play Therapy Institute.
2024-04-04
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0 00:00:00,389 --> 00:00:04,300 You're listening to the Play Therapy Podcast with Dr. Brenna Hicks. 1 00:00:04,309 --> 00:00:08,100 Your source for centered and focused play therapy coaching. 2 00:00:08,260 --> 00:00:10,529 Hi, I'm Dr. Brenna Hicks, The Kid Counselor. 3 00:00:10,539 --> 00:00:12,680 This is the Play Therapy Podcast where you get 4 00:00:12,689 --> 00:00:15,130 a master class in child-centered play therapy 5 00:00:15,140 --> 00:00:17,520 and practical support and application for your 6 00:00:17,530 --> 00:00:19,250 work with children and their families. 7 00:00:19,819 --> 00:00:25,190 In today's episode. I am answering a question from a listener Summer in Illinois 8 00:00:26,139 --> 00:00:29,239 and her question is about board games in the playroom. 9 00:00:29,879 --> 00:00:32,098 Really a fun topic because 10 00:00:32,529 --> 00:00:36,860 we almost always have board games in a child-centered playroom. 11 00:00:36,970 --> 00:00:40,080 But there's a lot of confusion over how to handle that. And 12 00:00:40,250 --> 00:00:41,229 is it truly non 13 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:44,520 directive? And can you have one in a child-centered playroom? 14 00:00:44,779 --> 00:00:47,669 And how do you handle game play with kids? 15 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:51,299 What do you do under certain circumstances, et cetera, et cetera. So 16 00:00:51,590 --> 00:00:54,069 we're going to dive into Summer's question together summer. 17 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:56,939 Thank you for emailing and thanks for listening in Illinois. 18 00:00:57,950 --> 00:01:00,909 I was just in Chicago last year for 19 00:01:01,150 --> 00:01:05,919 the Rays Cubs series as well as the Rays White Sox series. 20 00:01:06,059 --> 00:01:09,120 So the Rays played both Chicago teams back to back. 21 00:01:09,129 --> 00:01:11,209 So we went up and we got to go to Wrigley 22 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:13,660 and we got to go to the White Sox stadium 23 00:01:13,980 --> 00:01:15,819 and crazy, 24 00:01:16,309 --> 00:01:19,589 I couldn't have orchestrated this story if I wanted to. 25 00:01:19,980 --> 00:01:22,389 It was mid to late April 26 00:01:22,769 --> 00:01:26,940 and we were sitting in Wrigley Stadium and for those of you non baseball people, 27 00:01:26,989 --> 00:01:29,860 Wrigley is the stadium. 28 00:01:29,870 --> 00:01:32,730 It, it's the one with the history and the, 29 00:01:32,970 --> 00:01:35,319 the wonder and the awe and you walk in 30 00:01:35,330 --> 00:01:37,349 there and you feel like you're on hallowed ground. 31 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:40,319 I mean, the, the feet in cleats that have walked 32 00:01:40,580 --> 00:01:43,480 in Wrigley. It is just crazy. The history and 33 00:01:43,690 --> 00:01:47,500 oh my word, all of it, the Ivy wall, blah, blah, blah, could go on. But 34 00:01:47,940 --> 00:01:50,129 I'm telling you the craziness of this is 35 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:53,639 Us little Florida people are up in Chicago, 36 00:01:53,769 --> 00:01:57,800 mid to late April sitting in Wrigley and it starts snowing. 37 00:01:58,290 --> 00:02:00,319 So I just wanna let you all know. 38 00:02:00,330 --> 00:02:06,019 I did not expect to have snow watching a game at Wrigley of all places, 39 00:02:06,029 --> 00:02:08,279 but I will never ever forget that experience. 40 00:02:08,288 --> 00:02:09,559 What a cool memory 41 00:02:09,889 --> 00:02:12,860 and just a fun, fun trip. So 42 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:16,500 I was recently in Chicago, Summer. So 43 00:02:16,669 --> 00:02:19,350 thanks for being up there in Illinois. Hanging out with me. 44 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:23,660 All right. So Summer's question, I'm gonna read parts of her email for you all 45 00:02:23,940 --> 00:02:28,789 and she says my question is a bit complicated or at least it is in my head. 46 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:30,429 That's usually how it goes. Right. 47 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:32,869 It's not really that hard, but in our head it seems very hard. 48 00:02:33,419 --> 00:02:35,520 I definitely prefer the child-centered model. 49 00:02:35,529 --> 00:02:38,300 But one day a week I go to a local elementary school 50 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:41,630 and the office that I'm in changes from time to time 51 00:02:42,130 --> 00:02:43,699 and has board games in them. 52 00:02:44,059 --> 00:02:45,570 In another training that I completed. 53 00:02:45,580 --> 00:02:48,960 I was told that board games should not be in a child-centered playroom. 54 00:02:49,410 --> 00:02:50,770 Absolutely not true. 55 00:02:51,210 --> 00:02:54,070 The board games can likely not be taken out of the room 56 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:57,440 as they're not my belongings and the school is short on space. 57 00:02:58,070 --> 00:03:00,029 How should I approach this with the clients? 58 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:04,399 I've tried both ways and I'm still not sure what works best with one client. 59 00:03:04,410 --> 00:03:07,289 I put a limit about not touching the other person's things, 60 00:03:07,419 --> 00:03:10,839 but then for another client, I just let them do whatever they wanted with them. 61 00:03:10,940 --> 00:03:11,869 Thanks so much. 62 00:03:12,660 --> 00:03:14,470 All right, Summer. So, thanks for this. 63 00:03:14,479 --> 00:03:17,330 Let's let's dive in because I do get a lot of questions, 64 00:03:17,429 --> 00:03:20,339 not only in the coaching program, but even in the Collective, 65 00:03:20,350 --> 00:03:21,649 we've talked about this a little bit. 66 00:03:21,660 --> 00:03:21,919 So 67 00:03:22,839 --> 00:03:24,970 let me begin with the 68 00:03:25,339 --> 00:03:29,520 declaration that you absolutely can have games in a child-centered playroom. 69 00:03:29,589 --> 00:03:32,690 And I'm not sure what the context was in which you were 70 00:03:32,699 --> 00:03:35,199 told that board games should not be in a child-centered playroom, 71 00:03:35,210 --> 00:03:35,449 but 72 00:03:35,779 --> 00:03:39,070 that is not the child-centered approach. 73 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:44,240 Games are very therapeutically valuable and games serve a purpose. 74 00:03:44,250 --> 00:03:48,119 Games are in many, many child-centered playrooms, 75 00:03:48,369 --> 00:03:52,919 but there are some considerations about making it effective. 76 00:03:52,929 --> 00:03:54,240 So let's talk through those. 77 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:58,820 You do want to be intentional about the type of games that you have. 78 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:00,880 So obviously, some are in your case, 79 00:04:00,889 --> 00:04:03,649 they're not your games and you're sharing an office. 80 00:04:03,660 --> 00:04:07,639 So not that you can necessarily dictate what games are in there. 81 00:04:07,690 --> 00:04:11,490 But for everyone listening, it is important to realize 82 00:04:11,779 --> 00:04:15,570 that the games should be therapeutically intentional. 83 00:04:15,789 --> 00:04:17,660 And there are certain games that are 84 00:04:17,670 --> 00:04:20,290 very well suited for a child-centered playroom. 85 00:04:20,608 --> 00:04:24,779 This is not an exhaustive list, but I'm just going to share the ones that 86 00:04:24,970 --> 00:04:29,059 I have and that many child-centered play therapists keep as a general rule. 87 00:04:29,299 --> 00:04:32,709 So Risk very popular. Child-centered game, 88 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:34,220 Don't Break the Ice, 89 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:36,160 Uno cards 90 00:04:36,399 --> 00:04:40,399 Chutes and Ladders also known as Snakes and Ladders in other countries, 91 00:04:40,410 --> 00:04:41,799 especially Australia. 92 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:43,570 Connect Four 93 00:04:44,239 --> 00:04:45,570 is a very popular one 94 00:04:45,850 --> 00:04:47,079 Guess Who 95 00:04:47,209 --> 00:04:49,760 very helpful Candy Land, 96 00:04:50,570 --> 00:04:52,829 any type of jigsaw puzzles, 97 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:57,010 regular cards. So a traditional deck of cards 98 00:04:57,559 --> 00:05:04,399 and then also card games. So we often will have Old Maid, we often will have Go Fish, 99 00:05:05,059 --> 00:05:07,179 those types of card games 100 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:12,040 similar to uno where it is cards, but they serve a certain purpose. 101 00:05:12,220 --> 00:05:13,779 So not an exhaustive list, 102 00:05:13,790 --> 00:05:16,190 but those are the types of games that I and 103 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:19,109 many other child-centered play therapists have in their playrooms. 104 00:05:19,950 --> 00:05:20,649 So 105 00:05:21,260 --> 00:05:25,000 the games can absolutely be included in a child-centered playroom. 106 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:28,670 And you have to understand the purpose that they serve 107 00:05:28,809 --> 00:05:32,579 and how it will unfold with kids as they 108 00:05:32,820 --> 00:05:36,309 are part, are involved in the child center play therapy process. 109 00:05:36,709 --> 00:05:42,250 So as a general rule if kids gravitate toward games at the beginning of therapy 110 00:05:42,510 --> 00:05:47,839 so early on in their therapeutic process, if they go toward games, 111 00:05:48,470 --> 00:05:51,019 we almost always can recognize 112 00:05:51,170 --> 00:05:54,100 they either have a high anxiety 113 00:05:54,489 --> 00:05:55,179 level 114 00:05:56,019 --> 00:05:58,850 or they are craving 115 00:05:58,970 --> 00:06:00,410 safe play 116 00:06:00,799 --> 00:06:03,929 that is structured and controlled and 117 00:06:04,109 --> 00:06:07,920 it feels easy for them to play that kind of game 118 00:06:08,339 --> 00:06:12,410 while they're warming up, while they're in the initiation stage stage, 119 00:06:12,420 --> 00:06:14,529 while they're building a relationship with you, 120 00:06:15,359 --> 00:06:17,790 they're not quite ready to dive into their stuff yet. 121 00:06:17,980 --> 00:06:23,260 How do they handle that? Fear and overwhelm and worry and, oh my gosh, I, 122 00:06:23,380 --> 00:06:25,619 I don't know what to play with. I don't want to play. 123 00:06:25,630 --> 00:06:27,619 I don't know where my play might take me. 124 00:06:27,829 --> 00:06:31,549 I don't want to be vulnerable. I don't want to dive into this deep junk yet. 125 00:06:31,779 --> 00:06:37,339 So they will naturally move toward games and structured type of play like that. 126 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:40,500 And it's because it's controllable. 127 00:06:41,649 --> 00:06:42,209 Now, 128 00:06:42,570 --> 00:06:44,489 that's not inherently a problem. 129 00:06:45,290 --> 00:06:46,980 The child-centered way, 130 00:06:47,140 --> 00:06:47,540 the non 131 00:06:47,709 --> 00:06:48,589 directive way 132 00:06:48,750 --> 00:06:50,339 says that kids know what they need. 133 00:06:51,350 --> 00:06:52,809 So if early on in the process, 134 00:06:52,820 --> 00:06:55,500 they need structure and control and that makes 135 00:06:55,510 --> 00:06:57,649 them feel safe and at ease and comfortable, 136 00:06:58,149 --> 00:06:58,690 then 137 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:00,369 games provide that for them. 138 00:07:01,540 --> 00:07:06,390 So early on in the process, we can recognize that there's almost always 139 00:07:07,170 --> 00:07:08,790 that kind of inclination 140 00:07:08,929 --> 00:07:12,040 for highly anxious kids or kids that are not ready, 141 00:07:12,049 --> 00:07:15,149 willing or able to dive into their deeper stuff. 142 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:15,500 Yet, 143 00:07:16,100 --> 00:07:18,709 however, toward the end of treatment, 144 00:07:19,420 --> 00:07:24,519 kids will also often gravitate, I just about said graduate, 145 00:07:24,529 --> 00:07:25,820 but that was not what I want to say. 146 00:07:25,850 --> 00:07:27,399 Gravitate toward 147 00:07:27,859 --> 00:07:32,500 that type of game structure, controlled calm type of play. 148 00:07:33,170 --> 00:07:36,959 But that means something completely different at the end of the process, 149 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:41,950 when we see children move toward playing games and they're ready to wrap up, 150 00:07:41,959 --> 00:07:44,109 that is the indication that they 151 00:07:44,250 --> 00:07:46,950 are no longer feeling pressed to address 152 00:07:46,959 --> 00:07:49,630 whatever issues they were working on before 153 00:07:50,309 --> 00:07:53,070 they don't have a need for any new theme to emerge 154 00:07:54,079 --> 00:07:59,140 and they are very comfortable with you at that point. So a collaborative engagement 155 00:07:59,299 --> 00:08:00,619 is something that they want. 156 00:08:01,070 --> 00:08:03,579 So they'll often come in and say you wanna play a game 157 00:08:04,450 --> 00:08:08,339 and it's just a calm, stable centered activity 158 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:12,070 that they are willing and able to do because remember 159 00:08:12,079 --> 00:08:15,470 their external play is reflective of their internal state. 160 00:08:16,380 --> 00:08:20,119 So if they are internally calm and stable and centered, 161 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:23,149 they can come in and play in that way. 162 00:08:23,570 --> 00:08:26,519 So playing a game where it's just for fun, 163 00:08:27,459 --> 00:08:31,630 that's very important at the end of therapy because it's reflective that 164 00:08:31,700 --> 00:08:35,239 they're not working on any big things anymore in the playroom. 165 00:08:36,308 --> 00:08:36,919 So 166 00:08:37,219 --> 00:08:40,729 we see game gravitation 167 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:43,130 for different reasons at different points. 168 00:08:43,369 --> 00:08:45,489 But in both of those scenarios, 169 00:08:45,510 --> 00:08:48,440 it's still very appropriate in a child-centered playroom. 170 00:08:48,619 --> 00:08:52,179 Now, other questions that emerge when you do have games in your playroom, 171 00:08:52,190 --> 00:08:54,869 which you should, by the way, I don't want that to seem like 172 00:08:55,070 --> 00:08:57,210 it's a choice, you should have games in your playroom. 173 00:08:57,820 --> 00:09:01,340 So when you have that type of game play, 174 00:09:01,969 --> 00:09:05,780 other things end up emerging. So what do you do when a child cheats? 175 00:09:06,260 --> 00:09:10,309 What do you do when a child makes up their own rules? 176 00:09:10,799 --> 00:09:13,780 What do you do when the game is never played fairly? 177 00:09:13,820 --> 00:09:17,049 And you lose ad nauseam every single time. 178 00:09:17,330 --> 00:09:23,039 What do you do when the child is grasping at power and control through gameplay? 179 00:09:23,739 --> 00:09:29,520 So they are putting themselves in positions of advantage and authority 180 00:09:29,700 --> 00:09:32,770 and knowledge and all of these 181 00:09:32,909 --> 00:09:35,950 benefits of being able to orchestrate the entire game 182 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:37,690 and how it's played and what the rules are. 183 00:09:37,700 --> 00:09:38,450 And of course, 184 00:09:38,460 --> 00:09:41,460 the rules change and the rules are different for you than they are for the kid. 185 00:09:41,469 --> 00:09:43,859 And then the kid blatantly cheats and then they say, 186 00:09:43,869 --> 00:09:46,390 ha I win and you were all the way down on number two. 187 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:50,000 And I'm specifically talking about Candy, uh sorry, Chutes and Ladders because 188 00:09:50,590 --> 00:09:52,919 it's hilarious how we were just talking about 189 00:09:52,929 --> 00:09:54,690 that on the Collective call last week too. 190 00:09:54,929 --> 00:09:56,340 When you get a kid that's like, 191 00:09:56,770 --> 00:10:01,409 oh, I get to go up the snakes too or I get to go up the slides too 192 00:10:01,630 --> 00:10:05,049 and you know, but you only have to go down the slides and whatever. So 193 00:10:05,619 --> 00:10:08,849 you watch that power dynamic, you watch the cheating, 194 00:10:08,859 --> 00:10:10,849 you watch the need to be in control. 195 00:10:10,859 --> 00:10:14,830 You watch them, need to win and need to set them up for success. 196 00:10:15,179 --> 00:10:17,210 And over time that shifts 197 00:10:18,020 --> 00:10:21,599 because the pendulum was too far, swung to one side. 198 00:10:22,609 --> 00:10:24,909 And then over time the child starts to, 199 00:10:25,270 --> 00:10:26,429 usually, 200 00:10:26,849 --> 00:10:28,530 you also get to cheat. 201 00:10:28,650 --> 00:10:30,229 That's usually the first step. 202 00:10:30,479 --> 00:10:33,099 So the child's cheating, but then you get to cheat too. 203 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:35,770 And then all of a sudden, you know, you both win 204 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:37,669 and then all of a sudden, you know, 205 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:41,599 you actually get to have the same benefits that the child does. 206 00:10:41,690 --> 00:10:44,520 And then eventually you're playing in a truly 207 00:10:44,530 --> 00:10:47,030 fair capacity and you might actually win. 208 00:10:47,039 --> 00:10:48,280 And the child's ok with it. 209 00:10:49,330 --> 00:10:53,070 Look at the therapeutic value of having those board games in your 210 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:56,390 room because the child was able to work through all of that stuff 211 00:10:56,530 --> 00:10:57,989 while playing a board game with you. 212 00:10:58,659 --> 00:11:00,719 Which is why board games are so helpful and which 213 00:11:00,729 --> 00:11:03,280 is why they are appropriate for a child-centered playroom. 214 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:06,059 So I hope that you'll find that helpful. 215 00:11:06,070 --> 00:11:10,090 If you have hesitated having games in your room, you should absolutely have them 216 00:11:10,219 --> 00:11:13,840 and games are so stinking expensive. Oh, my gosh, we love games. 217 00:11:13,849 --> 00:11:15,539 Even as a family, we have a ton, 218 00:11:15,919 --> 00:11:18,510 but I kind of refuse to buy games unless they're 219 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:21,890 really on sale because they've just gotten so crazy expensive. 220 00:11:21,900 --> 00:11:22,190 So 221 00:11:22,349 --> 00:11:25,020 my encouragement to you is go to thrift stores, 222 00:11:25,030 --> 00:11:29,059 thrift stores have bazillions of games you do wanna check and 223 00:11:29,070 --> 00:11:30,979 make sure the pieces are there and stuff like that. 224 00:11:30,989 --> 00:11:33,679 You need to open it up and assess the contents. 225 00:11:33,690 --> 00:11:38,440 However, you can get great games very cheap at thrift stores. 226 00:11:38,599 --> 00:11:40,900 And I would recommend doing that because if you 227 00:11:40,909 --> 00:11:42,960 want to supplement with games in your playroom, 228 00:11:43,030 --> 00:11:45,684 you know, you could spend 100 bucks on like four games 229 00:11:45,844 --> 00:11:47,604 and that's just not 230 00:11:47,804 --> 00:11:51,395 effective use of funds. In my opinion, I'm pretty frugal. So 231 00:11:51,565 --> 00:11:53,414 go to thrift stores and get them used. 232 00:11:53,424 --> 00:11:55,854 And as long as all the pieces are there, you know, look, 233 00:11:55,864 --> 00:11:59,145 the boxes are gonna get stepped on the corners are gonna get ripped open. 234 00:11:59,294 --> 00:12:01,044 You know, the boards are gonna, 235 00:12:01,054 --> 00:12:03,344 the stickers are gonna start to get peeled off of them. 236 00:12:03,354 --> 00:12:05,565 Kids are hard on games anyway. 237 00:12:05,575 --> 00:12:08,695 So don't spend money on brand new stuff that's just gonna get messed up 238 00:12:09,044 --> 00:12:10,994 my unsolicited two cents. 239 00:12:11,530 --> 00:12:12,109 All right. 240 00:12:12,500 --> 00:12:14,669 So Summer. Thank you so much for the question. 241 00:12:15,030 --> 00:12:16,049 I appreciate that. 242 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:20,090 And for those of you that have not checked out the Collective yet. 243 00:12:20,190 --> 00:12:21,599 I would love to have you on there. 244 00:12:21,609 --> 00:12:25,270 We have two collective calls each week, CCPTCollective.com 245 00:12:25,549 --> 00:12:28,640 and you get to have Q and A with me twice a week. 246 00:12:28,650 --> 00:12:33,229 So if you would like to interact and hang out with other CCPTs 247 00:12:33,599 --> 00:12:36,369 last week, our calls were hilarious y'all. Oh my gosh. 248 00:12:36,380 --> 00:12:40,330 We were laughing and people were trying to whistle and my word. 249 00:12:40,340 --> 00:12:41,489 We had such a good time. So 250 00:12:41,590 --> 00:12:45,510 if you wanna check that out, I'd love to have you on there CCPTCollective.com. 251 00:12:45,570 --> 00:12:48,000 If you want me to answer a question on the podcast, 252 00:12:48,010 --> 00:12:51,070 you can always email me at brenna@thekidcounselor.com. 253 00:12:51,340 --> 00:12:53,760 Hope you have a lovely first week of April. 254 00:12:53,770 --> 00:12:57,520 I'm super grateful for each and every one of you. Love y'all. Talk to you soon. Bye. 255 00:12:58,260 --> 00:13:01,190 Thank you for listening to the Play Therapy Podcast with Dr 256 00:13:01,309 --> 00:13:04,440 Brenna Hicks. For more episodes and resources. 257 00:13:04,450 --> 00:13:09,359 Please go to www.playtherapypodcast.com.
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