#491 - Bobby and Eddie on the Top 10 Biggest Selling Music Catalogs of All-Time + Why Caitlin Hates it When Bobby Gives Her Music Lessons + How Many Michael Jackson Songs Can They Name

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Speaker 1: We are producing our own podcast today because no producer showed up.

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Speaker 2: It's a snow day. So if it sounds bad, that's why.

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Speaker 1: It may sound nothing. This may not even be recorded. So this will be a small victory if this gets in anyone's ears at all. Because there is no Mike, who we said Mike don't come. Mike does not have a four wheel drive. Kevin, who does have a four well drive, didn't show up, but then said he was confused because we had the conversation yesterday. I was like a fotballe drive. He's like, yes, boom be at the house.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he knows that when you have a conversation. This is really unique about you. When you have a conversation with someone and you say like, hey, maybe we can do a podcast tomorrow at the house at whatever time, you really mean it, and you're not saying maybe or if everything works out, we can do it. I'll confirm with you. You really when you say it, you mean it. And I've known this for a while because we've known each other for a long time. But maybe Kevin doesn't know that, and he was waiting for a confirmation text that reminded everyone I guess, but I don't say maybe. I know you don't you never say maybe. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I say, we're gonna do a podcast at the house tomorrow ten o'clock. I don't want anybody to come that feels like it's not safe because the snow. And that's all I said. And Michael was like, my truck will get there, no problem. Kevi's like, well, I got a fuhole drive boom see a ten. Yeah, that's it and that's it's all you need.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. But I think people, I know, you know how like when people say like, hey, we should have dinner sometime, I never say you don't do that. People do that, and I think like if they, like Kevin, may not know that when you say stuff like that, you mean it. And there's gonna be no confirmation text. He said, because I said, uh hey, tenay am. He said, if you can have Eddie call me and I can walk through figure Eddie may not be coming. I told him I was coming, and he said he didn't hear it from you either. You hear what the confirmation? Yeah, someone's lying. Someone doesn't matter. Hey, so this is a stupid question, but did you get Starbucks delivered? I did?

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Speaker 1: Now, here's why it is. We're probably four inches of snow at this point at a city that doesn't do well with winter or snow, and people shouldn't be driving. I order this way earlier because it didn't start snowing until mid morning, so there's probably an inch on the ground. Secondly, if I order from uber eats, it's not forcing someone to leave their house, get in their car, go and get food and bring it to me. Someone doesn't show up, the Uber Eats gun doesn't go to their head and go to you make a decision. Yes, it's someone wanting to still work.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So not only did I order, and my wife asked me the same thing.

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Speaker 2: She said, you ordered Uber eats. You made someone get out of bed and get in this terrible weather.

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Speaker 1: Not only that, I tip them heavily good. So I don't think I would order right now. But again, if I did order right now, it's because there are people They have gig jobs, meaning they're only getting paid if they do the gigs. So I don't feel guilty about that. Because someone that can't do it won't be doing.

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Speaker 2: It correct, So they shut their app off. They're not even available of course, so do they charge more on a snow day like this, where like, really they're in demand. If they're battling the blizzard, they're in demand. It's a great question.

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Speaker 1: No, But what they do on the app is if it's raining or snowing, and you've seen this, it shows a little rain.

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Speaker 2: Coming down or snow coming down. I never seen it.

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Speaker 1: It just reminds you that there's an element that you should tip more on it.

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Speaker 2: That's why they put it up there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, especially if it's raining, it remains a lot more than it snow's Obviously. Sometimes I don't even know it's raining outside, and if I'm going to order something there's a little rain on it, I'll put a couple extra bucks on there. But I definitely tipped over what I paid for the food this morning.

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Speaker 2: Shocking that Starbucks was even open or anything is really open at that point. It wasn't that bad. Even right now.

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Speaker 1: I bet I'm not going to order right now, but I bet you can order right now. Probably it's four to five.

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Speaker 2: You drove over, how about how bad was it? I would say it's fifty to fifty. Like I saw some people spinning out, and then I saw some people just driving like normal. It just depends. I think there are people like in Nashville, we're kind of middle of America, right, so like there are people from the North that live here, and there are people from the South, more south than us that live here. So some people know how to drive in this and you can tell those people are the ones that are out and then the ones that really don't know how to drive on it. They're stuck on the side of the road spinning their wheels.

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Speaker 1: The toughest of the people that move here from the South, even more South, yes, because we get one or two of these year, and okay, for people to move here from Georgia, Alabama, Florida have no idea work, you know, because the industry they.

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Speaker 2: Have no idea.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, a couple things we want to talk about since this is music podcast number one. They had a list of the biggest selling music catalogs of all time, and I don't know which songs are most valued, but I do have the catalog prices and I'm gonna do top ten back and I thought we would just kind of guess, but the most the most valued song of their catalog is again I don't have the answer, okay, but at number ten selling his entire catalog is Neil Young.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 1: Now my assumption also is just his songs. It's not any of the Crosby Stills, Nashal Young, because he would have known all of that, right, And I gotta say it just going from my mind before I look up a stream song.

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Speaker 2: Don't look up any like, yeah, what do you?

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Speaker 1: What do you know? I know maybe two. I think I would only know the two if you told me the two Southern Man. I can't sing it Southern Man.

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Speaker 2: And that's what Leonard Skinner is referencing when they say, I hope Neil Young will remember Southern Man. Don't need him around anyhow.

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Speaker 1: Southern Man not on a top five streamed Oh interesting. But I wouldn't have guessed that I might know the song if I heard about I don't know when you sing, okay. Neil Young to me is Bob Dylan's two inch shorter, a little facially disconfigured twin brother.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's a good like.

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Speaker 1: When there are twins and you have like ugly twin it's a little off. Yeah, that's NOI Young to me and Bob done, And I get it. He's just based on the respect he gets from artists. He's a fantastic songwriter.

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Speaker 2: Nailed it. Nailed it because as a consumer, he doesn't look like much, he doesn't sing like much. And you know, if you if you really dissect lyrics or whatever, like, yeah, that's pretty good. And then you look at everything he did with you know, Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young like, obviously he's talented, but artists that know him and collaborate with him love him. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Even to join Crosby, Stills and Ash like, those guys have to like think you're of extreme value for sure. Okay, no, Young, Let's see what we have here. His number one is heard of gold.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, you know this one. This is familiar hard that's it, right, yeah, uh, I've been to the West one. I've been at it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, all right, enough enough of harmonica is Dylan, although I do think of him wearing the thing like Dylan.

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Speaker 2: Let me fast forward a little bit. This is a jam.

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Speaker 4: Actually it is good.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I would have never got there, but I do recognize it. I'll do one more harvest moon. M Are you familiar?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Famili maybe maybe no big instrumental for a while. We're two minutes into the Yeah, it's very instrumental. Now, but what year is that? Is that? Like eighties? To say?

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Speaker 1: I can look if I go to view song credits it has written by Neil Young.

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Speaker 2: I don't have him. I have to google that. Okay.

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Speaker 1: So Neil Young at number ten sold his catalog in twenty twenty one for one hundred and fifty million.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 1: Justin Bieber at number nine sold his catalog in twenty twenty three for two hundred million.

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Speaker 2: Wow. So does that mean that anything he does from now on, He's like, no, it's past, that's his Yeah, Okay, selling a catalog is things you've done.

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Speaker 1: Signing a deal like for what they're going to pay you for? Future is your future rights are if you're like in a deal with somebody. Okay, Bieber, what do you think.

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Speaker 2: Baby baby baby, baby baby.

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Speaker 1: Bay first song was baby. I bet you that's not the most valuable. I don't know the answer. Again, it's not an argument, it's a probably, and it's not his number one streaming song, but probably the one. Edgearon wrote your mama, Yeah, my MoMA don't like you.

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Speaker 2: She loves everyone. That is love yourself.

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Speaker 1: It's got two billion streams. Here's the video at Saron and Bennie Blanco riding this in the back of the bus.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's really really cool.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because that she is on it, but he's not all the way there, and Bennie Blanco is back in the back of the bus and like the room in the back.

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Speaker 2: Uh huh and have a studio in the back.

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Speaker 1: Is it kind of like a yeah, like one they built with a couple of things, you know, it's not like a built in studio. But yeah, Bennie Blanco's got his little kid there and he's like, what if you want to? And that's Oh, it's really cool to watch like that moment happen. It's when the Beatles are doing on the Disney Plus series.

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Speaker 2: There isn't the bosom and.

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Speaker 1: He's almost got that and he doesn't quite have and then he starts to stumble in and get back and you watch it happen.

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Speaker 2: That's really cool. It's kind of that.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not comparing, Yeah, I kind of am, because I think for this generation this.

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Speaker 2: Is that that. Oh you're saying like you're not comparing beat And I wasn't.

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Speaker 1: At first, and then I was like I should have, but then I did they're creating I and they're both massive for their time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, uh sorry, is up in the top five? Oh that's a jam, that's a jam. I'm not too late to say. Sorry. What about peaches? Did he write? Is that? Is that his catalog?

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Speaker 4: Is?

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Speaker 2: That's the jam too? Twenty twenty three? So that been part of it? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know there'd be one of the three. See, I feel those songs are so massive. I mean, they're all extremely valuable. There are two hundred million bucks. Every song is very valuable, you feel what.

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Speaker 2: I feel like I'd rather buy his than Neil Young's and make more money off beavers.

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Speaker 1: Well, they're also not saying what part of the catalog is if you don't write it? Obviously it's you don't own the publishing, but you have the mechanical right, It's like the voice part of it, the singing point.

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Speaker 2: Is that not good? That goes into the catalog. It can all be parts of the catalog. Katie Perry at number eight, lots of hits, who under twenty five million? Fire firework? Maybe you're five your work?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd say that's probably her most known. Her first song ever was I Kissed a Girl but first song, especially for artists, they become Megas stars. They don't peak at their first song. It's just a strong introduction. I would say firework too.

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Speaker 2: Firework. And then there's the last Fat Day Night. That's the gym. That's a good one.

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Speaker 1: Also the one because when Katy Perry was popping, like I was in pop popping.

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Speaker 2: I was in pop. Yeah, you were popping and pop. I was popping and pop.

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Speaker 1: And so when she was having her peak, hot hot, Hot, You're hot?

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Speaker 2: Didn't you cold? You're yes?

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Speaker 1: That was a big one, the one about Vegas.

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Speaker 2: Vegas.

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Speaker 1: I'm having to try to dig back into the memories here, but it was like and I think, oh, wide Awake was goodwake.

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Speaker 2: That's the gym. That's Friday Night was all California girls are snooping. Oh yeah, good one. Katie and my lady.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I still think Firework. I think we're both there on Firework. I swear to god.

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Speaker 2: She had a song about Vegas. There's the roar one right here, you roar waking up in Vegas.

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Speaker 1: If you remember this one, and it may have been big when I was there, and why I remember it.

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Speaker 2: But when you're.

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Speaker 1: Popping him pop that's popping and pop. Hold on, now that I hear it, I remember being a single.

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Speaker 3: But.

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Speaker 2: That's not it. Yeah, I don't remember. That sucks. That's a different sound though than most of her stuff. Yeah, I don't know why I thought that that came into my head.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Katy Perry coming in at number eight on the old catalog, number seven for two hundred and fifty million dollars. In twenty twenty two, the David Bowie estate sold the David Bowie kattow okay now for me without pulling it up. I do feel I'm a little more educated David Boye than Neil Young, because David Boye was a pop star. Sure, But the Vanilla I song under Pressure, it's only became Ice Ice Baby.

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Speaker 2: That was a big one, and that was him and Queen Right. Was that a collab? Yeah, that one comes to mind. First, what you uh, major ground control control to ma, that song is a jam? That song is so good. Then the movies. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's such a good song. It's such a theatrical song. I guess kind of why you say it's good the movies, but also two changes you remember changes.

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Speaker 1: Yes, because it's sampled a bunch any commercials.

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Speaker 2: Changes. Yeah, that's a good one.

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Speaker 1: He, like low Ki, has massive songs that people wouldn't know were his because didn't.

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Speaker 2: He have.

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Speaker 1: I'm getting food Fighters mixed up with there goes my hero his heroes. He's a hero song.

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Speaker 2: M m.

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Speaker 1: M hm.

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Speaker 2: Yes, something sounds really familiar here it is. Oh, oh, it's the one the Wallflowers covered. We can be heroes just one days. It was like Godzilla.

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Speaker 1: They cover it for like the Godzilla movie, And then I found out David Bowie did the original.

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Speaker 2: Yes, we can be heroes, but just one day.

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Speaker 1: Is there one about a red dress? But probably, and I'll look it up. But there's also Let's dance.

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Speaker 2: Oh, let's dance, Let's hold on you? Is that the one one hold on your red dress some day? Yes? Yeah, this is so good. The boy so ahead of his time.

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Speaker 1: But don't that he's one of the few now And I'm just now putting him on this list. In my mind that if he came out today exactly the same would still be wildly successful and famous. Absolutely, there are a few I'll put on the list. I'll put Queen on the list. We mentioned them earlier. I think if Queen came out with the same exact sound. They would be monsters because they were so good and that sound it still sounds contemporary. I would also put Biggie on there, because nobody has sounded like Biggie. No one's really even tried to emulate Biggie because he sounded so original. Those would be the three that I would put on there. What do you find it he did?

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Speaker 2: Rebel Rebel? Oh yeah yeah, And we did talk about it because something else sounds like.

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Speaker 1: This young song had to end up crediting them as a writer because that guitar riff.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, David Bowie.

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Speaker 1: I think it took me, being an adult to understand and respect really how good he was. Number six Paul Simon, So many good ones twenty twenty one, Oh my goodness, for two hundred and fifty million dollars.

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Speaker 2: I love Paul Simon, Come on, bones, what's your number? One? Well?

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Speaker 1: I still love Simon and Garfunkle, but I love Paul Simon. The one album Graceland for me does all the Paul Simon like. I like other things too, But I've listened to that album so many times.

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Speaker 2: Graceland's phenomenal album, right but.

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Speaker 1: Is that is that what the poser says, because I'm not no.

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Speaker 2: No, no no, the poster says. The greatest hits is the best, Okay, Like if you know an album that you're not a poser like Grace Lands, that's that is his staple album.

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Speaker 1: The song that is super fun Still I like to sing along too, as you can call me out when I see someone cover it, like Ben Rector covers it on stage, Matt Cornie covers it on stage and they dance, and you know that the video is iconic as Chevy Chase wasn't it.

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Speaker 2: Was he playing like a trombone or something, yeah, or saxophone or something.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it can't be my body guy, and I can be a long lost bat so jam you can call me ol. But then also like songs like Me and Julio, which.

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Speaker 2: Me and Julio down in the school yard dude, like so.

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Speaker 1: Good, like a movie kind of rebrought that back to life.

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Speaker 2: Which movie do you remember?

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Speaker 1: It was one of the Yeah, one of the the Twin Boys Ben Ben Stiller, the to Twin Boys wear track suits.

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Speaker 2: Lander.

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Speaker 1: Nah, I'll find it. I've seen it. It's one of the movies I've seen a few times. Oh yeah, dude, me and Julio. Do you remember like Coda Chrome in fifty leeby Lover.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, get off the back jack taking new stand, No need to be coy roy Okay, so that the movie.

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Speaker 1: With Ben Stiller. I know people are yelling at the the Royal ten of Bombs. Oh yeah, patros in it. Yes, Gwyneth Paltrow, Owen Wilson.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: If I had to pick a favorite song, it's probably Diamonds on the Soles of his Shoes so good, and I like it's you know, it starts She's a rich girl, know this?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah?

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Speaker 1: What So watch him do this live too when he has this?

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Speaker 2: You saw it?

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Speaker 1: I mean I wasn't there. I've seen like YouTube like the choir now.

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Speaker 2: Diamonds so yeah, God is so good dude. And Graceland. Of course I'm going to Graceland. Graceland.

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Speaker 1: I wonder if, like the Simon and Garfunkel, if like his part of Simon and Garfunkle could be sold in.

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Speaker 2: That, man, I mean, then that's that's money. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it's it's just Paul Simon, if that means anything he has, including half of Simon and Garfunkel.

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Speaker 2: Gosh. I would think he'd have about the same of his own stuff than he does with Simon and Garfunkle.

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Speaker 1: I think pop culture wise, probably the Simon and Garfunkle have a few songs that are bigger than the rest of the Paul Simon stuff. But maybe all together the Paul Simon stuff, yeah, because there's a lot. There's a lot of him. I do like slip sliding away, slip.

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Speaker 2: Slide in a way that's Paul Simon.

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Speaker 1: Aqua Lung ended up covering it really yeah, and again that's I think Aqua Lung was what I listened to first and was like, oh, that's also a Paul Simon cover.

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Speaker 2: Matt Matt Hill is super cool.

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Speaker 1: He came to the studio. I found a picture of us. He came to the studio because he produced. He maybe in a country and he was in the green room. He wasn't even as Aqualong the artist. They were like, so this acid I was like Aqualung and they were like, I'm like, dude, about a massive I went to watch it. I went to a theater for like a thousand people and bought tickets to go watch Aqua long. Yeah, the Boxer, but in the Boxer was originally Simon and Garth Simon Garfunkle, but looking at songs that he wrote, I mean it Sounds of Silence Dude, which again Simon and Garfunkle, but and that group mostly was Garfunkel singing but Simon riding because Simon was a bit shy, right, Yes, wasn't that the of that group?

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Speaker 2: And then I guess he got over it because after they broke up, man, he took off and Garfunkel really never did know and they got back together. I think there they still played together. Bridge over Trouble, Water like a bridge, Oh a trouble. It's it's the funeral song. What am I missing?

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Speaker 1: There's one maybe Sounds of Silence Missus Robinson's yeah, massive Missus Robinson. Simon and Garfunkle definitely had the bigger pop culture songs. Yes, if you just go, let's list Paul Simon's biggest songs ever, the songs with Simon and Garfunkle the biggest, but way more songs from himself that were critically acclaimed and nerds like us love them. I think they'll pick one of all they if you only got to listen to one today?

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Speaker 2: What would it be? Uh, Paul Simon, and it can be Simon whatever you wanted to be, or Missus Robinson. I can listen to that song over and over. It's so good.

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Speaker 1: I would do Diamond on would I guess it depends the movie, but yeah, that one, and then the most universal it's fun is you can call me out, that's just fun. Staying at number five, three hundred million dollars.

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Speaker 2: That's got to include the police. Yeah, it has to include place, because the only one I can think of that he did outside of the police was the one where with the there's a female like, oh yeah, yeah, I don't know what it's called, but that's all I remember of it. Keep doing that Desert Maybe. I couldn't even tell you the name of that song.

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Speaker 1: Because we played that when I was popping on pop.

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Speaker 2: I think this is it. Maybe let's see what's that called? Desert Rose? That's it? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And this is Sting solo Desert Rose, just sting. But let's do the police.

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Speaker 2: Uh rocks in. Oh, come on, monster, every breath you take a monster? Monster? For sure?

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Speaker 1: Do you have a list of just sting stuff? I will pull one up. I looked up Desert Rose to make sure that. Yeah, Sting's biggest streaming songs, number one, that's the greatest hits. Okay, we go number one. Fields of Gold.

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Speaker 2: That's what we just did, right. Oh no, you said Desert Rose. Okay, then okay, that was does it Rose? Idiot? But well you don't know fields of Gold? To okay, the fields of Gold. This feels like it should have been like a Disneys Tarzan. Sounds familiar. Oh yeah, yea, yeah, I've heard this fields of Gold. I'm bad. That's number one on just him. Shape of My Heart is number two. Take it? Take another little Shape of my Heart? Not it? Okay? Okay, I never heard it? Yeah either, if that's number you said that was number two.

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Speaker 1: Three hundred eighty million, wow, englishman in New York, three hundred and eighty million.

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Speaker 2: No, Oh, this sounds familiar. Sounds fmi or does it just sound like the Police? I bet if we get to the chorus, we'll know it. I don't. I don't know this. No, I don't either.

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Speaker 1: I think it just sounded because it looked. The album art looks old, so I think it's probably fresh out of the Police. So still holding on to a little bit of that police. But let's go to the police. This hasked for that money has to be the police because he probably wrote that stuff and it's all the publishing.

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Speaker 1: We think the number we talked about the song, but what's the number one song?

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Speaker 2: Every Breath You Take?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it is two billion streams? Jamia Jam Every Move You Made? It's a stalker song. Yeah, it is more than a love song.

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Speaker 2: Have his deputy move make. I'll be watching you.

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Speaker 1: When you think of it that way, it's it is creepy when you don't you think it's a love song.

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Speaker 2: It feels like a love song. Number two rock Sand Yeah, Jam Rock sand Number three. I am a sham.

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Speaker 1: Didn't think of the song because I love this song. It's five hundred and fifty Million's a massive song, for sure, you know it.

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Speaker 2: Every little thing she does is magic. Great song. But no, abo's number four, OK. I forgot about that too. That's a great song too. Give me another one, Dang, I don't know if I have another one. The police have so many hits.

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Speaker 1: When I look at this let me see, and I could have I could have gotten there with these better taking a minute, the bottle one yes, message and badle. How this song starts too.

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Speaker 2: And then it's so good. I sat that, but nothing I wonder. I don't know much about the police, but I wonder what the root is and why he sang like he was Jamaican as a brit I.

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Speaker 1: Never thought that was Jamaican's sounding until I did it. It is, it is, and even the music is the Have you ever heard that addressed? I mean like a reggae?

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Speaker 2: I never never.

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Speaker 1: Every little thing she does is magic.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I think they got a raw deal. He should have got another hundred million out of this one. They have a lot of things. She does this magica. Do what else you got? Number five? Monster? Jam? No, I don't, I'm out. You may have said this already. Don't stand so don't stand, so don't stand so close to me.

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Speaker 1: God so good, dude, that's the police are so good. You see there's anything else? Oh, the King of payn don't know it?

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Speaker 2: You do? Oh yeah you do? No, No, I do know it.

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Speaker 1: I'm saving a lot of this sist the key, Oh man.

00:25:53
Speaker 2: The police are so good. Do you ever go with your wife Do you ever say like, hey, you probably don't know the police, but let me give you, let me give you a rundout of these songs and how good they are. She hates when I play history lesson with her.

00:26:06
Speaker 1: Really yeah, and sometimes when I do history lesson music she sings it back to me. My wife has and I'm not exaggerating. She has a photographic memory. She get her something one and a half times and know the whole thing. She can read something and memorize it. I don't know anybody with that skill like she has. And I'll be singing a song and she'll jump in and start singing it like the Strokes or something, and I'm like, how do you know that? And her answer is rock band?

00:26:31
Speaker 2: That's terrible.

00:26:33
Speaker 1: She was a kid, her and her sister, her dad, Wow, and she'd play I can call her and she'd play the maybe maybe her dad would play the drums.

00:26:43
Speaker 2: That's hilarious. The whole family would play a rock band. She has a sister and her brother.

00:26:49
Speaker 1: Because there are some songs that I'm like, this is crazy, like side alternative that only I would know. Yeah, Hey, we're recording right now. We have a question for you, Eddie and I no, no, no, hy Caitlin, Hi Eddie, what instrument did you play in rock band? I sing, Oh, you were the singer. That's how you would know the songs got it. We were talking about the police and Eddie said, does Caitlyn like it when you take music old music and like teach it to her?

00:27:17
Speaker 2: And I'm like, no, she hates history.

00:27:20
Speaker 3: I hate it when I'm listening to a song and he'll be like, well, you know who this person got the inspiration for.

00:27:27
Speaker 2: You're such a nerd.

00:27:29
Speaker 1: And I don't do that to annoy her, but I'm like, oh, the original lead singer of this band, because I feel like I have knowledge I need to share.

00:27:36
Speaker 2: And she's like, I don't care, but songs will come on. What was this song? Like?

00:27:40
Speaker 1: What songs do you think of when you think about singing rock band?

00:27:43
Speaker 2: Video game?

00:27:43
Speaker 1: And who played what instrument first? In the family band, people would switch on and off guitar.

00:27:50
Speaker 3: Sometimes I would play guitar. I think my dad liked to play the drums, and like I remember when Christmas, my dad and my uncle would kind of fight over who got to play the drums. Maps is a song that I like to sing.

00:28:03
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, yeah, maps yeah.

00:28:05
Speaker 1: She's just singing it one day because it comes on and I'm like, how do you know this song? Like I thought she was like hiding from me, like her secret early two thousands rock love And I was like, this is perfect, We're even more compatible. And she's like, I don't know who this is singing it. I just know it from rock band. Okay, cool, thank you.

00:28:22
Speaker 2: Wait wait wait, Caitlin, is there anything that he that Bobby brought to you? And You're like, actually, this is pretty good. I'm gonna never she wont to admit it. Let me see. Yeah, yeah, okay Linger Cranberries.

00:28:34
Speaker 1: Okay, I want to This is not she's not being completely honest, because it is a great song and she loves it. But it's not because I brought it to her. It's because it was covered again by a new artist.

00:28:43
Speaker 2: Oh no, that's not true.

00:28:44
Speaker 3: I already knew it when it was covered by Royal Otis because you had played it whenever you would win cards. It was on your list.

00:28:50
Speaker 1: But I don't think you liked it, or you did, you would admit to me you liked it because of me.

00:28:55
Speaker 3: Can't you just take my word, like I'm telling you what the person and with the feelings, with the experience that I liked it.

00:29:02
Speaker 1: I know you didn't share it with me because you feel like that gives me power and you hate when I have power.

00:29:07
Speaker 2: You every time that I wish you would play that song.

00:29:10
Speaker 1: Okay, she you know what she doesn't like though, because she Okay, she does like Linger She does not like their other massive it Zombie.

00:29:18
Speaker 2: Oh, you know, Zombie's acquired taste different. Zombie is awesome. It's different though than Lingers. Still her going is that the part you don't like?

00:29:28
Speaker 3: Caitlyn and the little two Evanescence for me, Oh, Evanescence, what a reference?

00:29:34
Speaker 1: Wowanessence is awesome though for like two songs too though, Yeah, okay, and I.

00:29:41
Speaker 2: Love her talking about the family band. If no one knew that she was talking about rock band, it would sound like, oh, who's this talking? Like this is some artists that I want to hear about. How she started playing music?

00:29:52
Speaker 1: What was your inspiration that got you into music, Kaitlin? Like, why did you decide to start singing and playing guitar?

00:29:56
Speaker 2: What took you to it?

00:29:58
Speaker 3: Made it pretty easy? Whenever it was is right there on the screen.

00:30:01
Speaker 2: Are all right, thank you? She's like, yeah, my dad's dad's on the drums, video game Partridge Family.

00:30:15
Speaker 1: Let me say there's any more police stuff, then I want to play maps for everybody who knows, because you'll, even if you don't know what, you probably know it without knowing what it is.

00:30:24
Speaker 2: Uh man. The Police have so many songs m anymore that we would know. None that scream out to me.

00:30:32
Speaker 1: But they have a song called every Bomb You Make, which feels I don't know it, but every Bomb You That's what I think.

00:30:40
Speaker 2: You know what? I got an idea you've already written that song no follow me here?

00:30:46
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's And if you're a hardcore police fan, you're like, why did you mention this song?

00:30:51
Speaker 2: Sorry? Sorry about that.

00:30:52
Speaker 1: We are not claiming to be ex no, no, no, but yeah, a lot of police songs. I'm gonna say it, back to the list, okay, maps, but.

00:30:59
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah songs. They fast forward a little. And when I hear her singing this song, I'm like, how do you know that name? Hey? They love you? They're like a live version were yeah, yeah, yeah, it's big No, okay, because I'm that song I remember that song they no like, were they talk? Were they popping in and pop? No?

00:31:38
Speaker 1: I don't think we ever played them on pop. I just was an alternative nerd.

00:31:41
Speaker 2: Yeah.

00:31:42
Speaker 1: Uh, their biggest songs. Again, they didn't sell their catalog or anything, so.

00:31:45
Speaker 2: Yeah that they're not on the line. Maybe they did sell them.

00:31:47
Speaker 4: I don't know.

00:31:48
Speaker 2: But like if I were to look at their songs, just if we know any more of them? Yeah, yeah, yeah, heads will roll at number two, three hundred two million. Nope, yeah, I don't.

00:32:08
Speaker 1: I don't really know the backstory. I would not give her a history less than that. Yeah, yeah, yes, number four, Phil Collins and Genesis three hundred million dollars.

00:32:18
Speaker 2: I feel like you would know a lot of these love both.

00:32:23
Speaker 1: I think I was introduced to Genesis though, because a lot of my old school music love of like sixties and seventies music comes from Arkansas.

00:32:29
Speaker 2: Keith.

00:32:30
Speaker 1: There was a radio station called Cold ninety five because nobody in my family played music. My grandma played guitar in church, but it was Pentecostal and there was no other music other than religious music. There was she shred or was she just like now just chic guitar with her it was gospel stuff, an old, old old country that wasn't on the radio got it and church songs. So I didn't really learn anything other than Andy Griffith was the guy on TV. But he was also the gospel singer because my grandma played record all the time and like Ray Charles moderns out of country music, Like I knew that from her. But Arkansas, Keith was my music guy because we would It's tough for a stepdad and a son to bond because not you're you can grow up with them, and I'm like twelve. So he'd put it on Cool ninety five. And there were two things we talked about. One, identify the song. He'd be like, check it out and he'd tell me a story about sixties seventies and it come on again. I can identify it, and he would do it tot he'd teach me the history lesson. So that was the way that we wonded. We'd listen to Cool ninety five and I would try to name the song and like this is the this is the Hollies, you know, this is uh she was a long, cool woman in a black dress, you know all that.

00:33:37
Speaker 2: Yeah. The other was baseball old baseball. But he's a Cubs fan too, right yeah, yeah, that's the reason I'm like Goes fan. But Genesis. The first song ever saw for Genesis was the music video and they got back together, which was.

00:33:48
Speaker 1: I can't dance, that can't Yeah, only thing about me as well. So that's when they were they had been famous, Phil Collins had broken off, they got back together, and I was like, oh, this is interesting, and then I kind of did rewind. So Phil Collins biggest song, right, yeah, I would.

00:34:09
Speaker 2: At Felix coming in there, and I would I would think that'd be his number one, and that's Phil Collins.

00:34:16
Speaker 1: That's Phil Collins in the Air Tonight, which has had a few lives, meaning it was a single hit it and then a couple of movies have made a wildly popular, the last probably being Hangover.

00:34:26
Speaker 2: And even more than that, I think it's the It was the introt to Monday Night foot Monday Night Football, Chris Stapleton singing.

00:34:33
Speaker 1: It, oh this last year or two yeah, recently, which is kind of cool Phil Collins. So I would say that's probably him and them's biggest song. But we can go through some of the Genesis stuff. But what's interesting about this is he was the drummer of the band, not the original lead singer.

00:34:47
Speaker 2: The original lead singer was Peter Gabriel. Yeah, not a drummer. Not a drummer.

00:34:53
Speaker 1: Peter Gabriel leeds to go solo. Yeah, they look for a singer, they don't really find one they like. So Phil Collins starts singing and he don't ways had a microphone in front of him like those Henley Yeah, and so he starts being a lead singer from the drums.

00:35:07
Speaker 2: Crazy and I don't know how anyone does that. Levon Helm is one of those guys.

00:35:12
Speaker 1: And later he moved from the kit and did just sing with Genesis a bit. Yeah, but the first part he sang in the drum kit, that's pretty sure. It's a very wild It's like playing the bass and singing. I don't know how Paul McCartney did it or still does it. I don't play guitar really at the level anyone here it does, or even you do. But when I first started playing guitars, like how do you strum and sing at the same time, it meant that felt difficult. It's just different muscles, like different parts of your brain having to work another day in Paradise, It's another day on the other song, you know, you know the song.

00:35:44
Speaker 2: I'm thinking of uh thing twice? Oh yeah, dead and parodied, yes ding twice. Against all odds, I gotta say this one, this song is awesome. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, of course I would think if he could.

00:36:06
Speaker 1: Rename that song, he could, because I think most people would know what to take a look at me now.

00:36:11
Speaker 2: Yeah. I always wonder why people try to get all fancy with their titles. Name it what We're all going to remember it by it, and it's usually the first line of the cars. Yeah right, yeah, let's go to Genesis. Was Genesis on Cool ninety Life? No, I don't think it is more classic.

00:36:31
Speaker 1: Yeah the sixties, Yeah, although they probably were into the sixties right, Like, I don't know the Genesis, yeah.

00:36:39
Speaker 2: Dude, seventies anything about Genesis. The only thing my memory of Genesis is my dad bought this used car and we were driving it around for like the first time he got it, and I hit the CD player eject like just because I don't I don't know, just pushing buttons, and a Genesis CD came out. So whoever sold in the car at a Genesis c legging there. I mean really, I didn't even know who they were. Yes, she just in the that's so tells you what parts? That's a Genesis.

00:37:10
Speaker 1: That's a Phil Collins sung Genesis song. Okay, don't now this might Let's listen and see WHI late singer.

00:37:20
Speaker 2: That says because I know the song, you could tell the difference. I think so right, I don't know. It's just the same, that's all. That's the song here.

00:37:29
Speaker 1: I think there's no Collins.

00:37:32
Speaker 3: Just to say.

00:37:34
Speaker 2: I can't tell.

00:37:37
Speaker 3: Me the same.

00:37:38
Speaker 2: It's just a shame, that's all. He does. Go higher later he does. Let's see if we can name who this is. There're going something Peter Gabrol. It's Peter. I don't know. Well that's both my head DAPs, my toes sounds like Phil Collins. Let's make let's make a bet to go Peter Gabriel is the main singer. Okay, that's all Genesis singer and I know nothing.

00:38:11
Speaker 1: Phil Collins drums, percussion, vocals, but that doesn't mean he's the lead singer. That's all is a song by the English rock band Genesis. It's a group composition. It appears as the second track in nineteen eighty three. That's lending more toward your guy. It was the album second single after Mama. The song was intended as an attempt to write a simple pop song with a melody and style of the Beatles.

00:38:35
Speaker 2: Cool.

00:38:36
Speaker 1: The song begins with Tony Banks playing the main reff of the song.

00:38:43
Speaker 2: Music video.

00:38:46
Speaker 1: Songwriters Phil Collins, Tony Banks and Mike Rutherford.

00:38:49
Speaker 2: So, I bet you as Phil Collins because because he's the only one credit as vocals, no, as he's.

00:38:56
Speaker 1: The other singer, is not even listened as a writer lyricists film Collins, so he wrote the lyrics. Still doesn't mean for sure that that's not Peter Gabriel. Let's see, did Phil Collins sing that's all?

00:39:10
Speaker 2: This is the game we I still play with my kids with the Beatles. Who's singing?

00:39:19
Speaker 1: That's also song by Genesis? Man it maybe they don't want us to know Genesis. That's all music video. Okay, that'll tell you. Okay, there's a commercial with Gronk on it. So he did not sing the USA. Okay, here we go unless it's like a concept video, I know where they're not even in it.

00:39:42
Speaker 2: Here we go, We got it up.

00:39:44
Speaker 1: That's probably man, the quality is so bad. Of those eighties videos, that's probably Phil Collins.

00:39:49
Speaker 2: Uh, he's warned, that's Phil Collins, one of those hats those think, yes, that's Phil Collins. Okay, you win? Is Phil Collins? You win? Yeah?

00:39:58
Speaker 1: But I wouldn't have bet anything. I wouldn't bet anything on that one because they do sound a bit similar. Let's see other songs.

00:40:05
Speaker 2: I can't dance land of Confusion, you know this, you know this for sure? Nothing so far really m what a sound though, mm hmm oh, I'm surprised. Nothing I ever heard that.

00:40:32
Speaker 1: Well, you got Neil Young on me, I got Landed Confusion on you. We'll do one more into deep.

00:40:38
Speaker 2: Let'll be fast forward. Dude, you know he was getting massive chicks Phil Collins. I don't know that. You know that one. No, I don't know that one.

00:40:51
Speaker 1: Hither because he's a lead singer of a massive rock band. But also sings like right, songs like that and sings like that like.

00:40:59
Speaker 2: Yeah good Phil, That's what your mind goes like. They able to do it all. Bob Dylan number three publishing only three hundred fifty million bucks. That what does that mean? Publishing only just writing?

00:41:10
Speaker 1: No, not mechanicals not his voice, okay, but all the songwriting that to me is a good goodbye can I I haven't pulled up anything. You're way more of a Dylan fan. I've read a Dylan book, the one he wrote, No you't you want to? The one here one about him.

00:41:29
Speaker 2: It's funny. He wrote one and it was like volume one, as if he was going to do more. He's never done more. That's hilarious. He's never done more.

00:41:38
Speaker 1: I think of nag knog knocking on heavens due, Yeah, okay, I think of well now, it's unfair because I think a wagon will because but that I wouldn't think of that if it weren't.

00:41:48
Speaker 2: Like that would be included Will as a writer. Yeah, in this, in this, okay, let me search. Gosh bones, there's so many without you not going Heavens or number one though without even looking? Did you already look? Just not the first one? Okay? What there's one that you mentioned every time you talk about you talk about Dylan, not one that he really made famous. Someone else made really famous a long long time ago. Oh probably uh Jimmy Hendricks.

00:42:15
Speaker 1: Yeah, when cries Mary No, uh no, uhh, come on baby, all along the Watchout.

00:42:22
Speaker 2: That's it. Yeah, that's it, got it? Yeah, that's it too. That's a good one. You know, the one that Garth Brooks sings.

00:42:30
Speaker 1: Adele sang it too. Yep, Hope floats, yep. Let me get all those are right. I gotta get to it cause Garth Brooks sanging and Hope floats and Adele just to feel my love.

00:42:40
Speaker 2: That's it. That's a great due when the world is it, that's it. There's I mean, I'm telling you. When you look at that catalog, Oh my gosh, there are so many songs. How about like Rolling Stone? Of course? Yeah, the times they are a change in Yeah, I know that. I wouldn't have got there though. I don't think if you and every door. But it ain't me, babe, Oh no, no, it ain't me, babe. You know that one mm hurricane? Hurricane? Is this one? I don't know? Is this the chorus? No, well it's it's there's only one chorus and the chorus is here comes the story of the hurricane. Oh think I know it. This is the story of a boxer in New Jersey that got framed. Dude. This song is amazing. Oh, it's a story. It's a it's a real story, and it was. It was a it wasn't really a big news story, but he got he got sent to prison for murder, but he never did the murder. It was just a racial profiling thing. And he was never able to box because he's spent half his life in prison. But because of this song and the awareness, he got out.

00:43:53
Speaker 1: So that's basically our version of a true crime podcast where they solve totally and in that song he tells the whole story.

00:44:00
Speaker 2: So the podcast will free people. That song did that told the story and freed the guy. I never knew that. Yeah, I thought it was about a natural event. Right now. Reuben Hurricane Carter was the boxer. How about I do know him? Mister tambourine man.

00:44:17
Speaker 1: This song from me, you know, subtraining Homesick Blues from the video where he's flopping.

00:44:23
Speaker 2: The signs signs. Yeah. Let me play a little bit of that black and white video. He's keeping up all the words going yeah, yeah, you're a big Dylan guy. I love Bob Dylan.

00:44:37
Speaker 1: I am not I respect it, not drawn to it to listen what else comes to your mind?

00:44:44
Speaker 2: So you said knocking on Heaven's door. I like gosh, what have we already said? I'm saying, if I know any other songs from the top, just like a woman. How's that go? She hey, just like a woman. Maybe don't think twice. Don't think twice. It's all right. Twice. I don't know those are those are old ones when it was just him and an acoustic guitar. But have you seen the movie. I have not seen the movie. It's not it's not streaming yet, I know, so I'm not really gonna go to the movies watch. But I mean, everyone says it's good. Mike Decaid was good. I saw Adam Dirrett so the kind of crows saying it was one of the best movies I've ever seen. Really, hey, guys, it's Adam. It's one of the best. That's exactly what he did. Number two.

00:45:30
Speaker 1: Bruce Springsteen five hundred and fifty million dollars. I also am. I respect it. I'm not a Bruce Springsteen guy. I feel like most of the people that I know or that I listened to talk about Bruce are wildly.

00:45:42
Speaker 2: Rooted in the Northeast. I think you can be a fan, sure.

00:45:45
Speaker 1: I like the people that are die hard are either crazy songwriters that respect how good of a songwriter he is, or if they're not into music, it's because that's the culture of like geographically where they're from, and he's from Yeah, he's from Lake Jersey, right, which is that New York, New Jersey Northeast area. I think with him, it's it's what's very obvious about him is that he was never going to do anything else in his life, Like he truly loves making music, playing music, performing music, all of it. Because again it's he's had shows that have gone over three hours. He continues to play, Like I.

00:46:23
Speaker 2: Feel like he's gonna be the Willie Nelson where he's gonna be one hundred years old still playing shows.

00:46:29
Speaker 1: I mean he did a Broadway show. Yeah, of just his song like it just loves he just loves it. Do you think the number one song is Born in the USA?

00:46:35
Speaker 2: Number five?

00:46:37
Speaker 1: That's the song that I knew first because that was a radio song. Okay, I think it was even a little little before me. But that is also not a patriotic song, protest song as a protest song, which you taught me that.

00:46:49
Speaker 2: Give me another one? Born to run in the top five, but not one, not number one, number four. Okay, God, give me, give me a word, Give me a word in that song.

00:47:03
Speaker 1: I won't give you a word, but I can tell you about the music video made somebody else famous.

00:47:07
Speaker 2: Oh no, I don't know.

00:47:11
Speaker 1: She got on stage and danced with him in the music video. Oh, it's a Courtney Cox and it's dancing in the dark. Yes, that's number one, nine seven million. Santa Claus is coming to town. I mean that is above it, but only because it's right after Christmas? Oh is that it moves like that? Yeah, but it does have near as many streams overall, but it trends.

00:47:36
Speaker 2: But that version is so good. It's live. Yeah, and he's that clearance. Santa couldn't give you a saxophone for Christmas? Go with number two. Guess another one. Uh so what I've already said is not number two. Gosh, why am I thinking slower? Now you're gonna know, you're gonna have I'm blank, mammal fire, I'm on fire. Yeah, I don't think I know that one. You do. You have to know this or you have to leave. Hey didn't, but don't you talk to me. We didn't losing a booze of the Boodoos. Okay, I know it. I know it. I'm kidding, right, No, I know, but but I know it, but it's not it's not a huge one to me. Really. Uh uh, all right, let's sing. Let's get I'm singing on here. I might go to the bathroom and that one if I was at the show Way, I know it. Oh no, yeah. And then Street's Philadelphia. Oh that's a great one to do with that movie. I need to catch it. I can't. That was well, it was just it was just big because it was it was part of that movie, and that movie was so important because it was a movie at Aids. Tom Hankston, Zel Washington. I'm not catching this by this. I don't know if I know the song on the Streets Feeling Street. I don't think I know this one. I'd probably go to the bathroom. I probably go that first one you'd go on this one. I'll probably get a beer. I don't even drink. I guess I'm gonna go get a beer. Oh, he has to have Where's Born to Run and all that. Like.

00:49:21
Speaker 1: I'm sure they only put the top five here. So if I go into Greatest Hits, I'm sure we're gonna have twenty that were like, oh, yeah, it's perfect dancing in the directions Philadelphia.

00:49:31
Speaker 2: Born to Run, there we go. Yeah, of course, stud that's a good one. Baby, we were born under round.

00:49:42
Speaker 1: I even like Secret Garden.

00:49:44
Speaker 2: I don't know that, let me see. And because they ended up remaking it for Jerry Maguire with like words, oh you complete me? Yeah? Did you know that? Human brain but in a sea? Great God, thank you for reminding me. I'm gonna I'm gonna watch that one my son this week. You think Jerry mc get a hold out Jerry maguire, Yeah, I think so, Jerry. I told you I loved you. I don't care what you do.

00:50:14
Speaker 1: Those words songs were massive for about four solid years, like every ballad because it was movie clips, and then it became like a nine to eleven they did in class, he wrote, they like nine to eleven.

00:50:25
Speaker 2: Those were those were a big thing. The River Do you know the river? This feels like Bob Dylan. I know the song, but.

00:50:36
Speaker 1: Dude, maybe I don't know a lot of the Bruce springs. This one for sure, this is this is one of his better songs. If you're I think a lot of people say thunder Roads maybe one of his best songs for me at thunder Roads.

00:50:47
Speaker 2: Fine. I like thunder Road Fine.

00:50:48
Speaker 1: See like my super good songwriter friends think this is one of the greatest songs ever.

00:50:53
Speaker 2: Okay, it's fast forwarding anything to you. Yeah, it sounds familiar. This, This sounds old. This sounds like some of his early stuff, very old. This one you will know vigil Or at the jam. Oh yeah yeah, Glory Day Glory Days, of course one is a mom now Glory Days, Glory Days. Did you know that Conan O'Brien's drummer was his drummer Max, Max Wine, Max Weinberg, Yeah, Max Weinberg, Yeah, I just thought that one. When I found out, it was like, that's wait a minute, Yeah, I think I saw him on Conan and Bryan. First I knew him from Conan and Bryan. Then I saw him on stage with Ruce Ringsteen for sure, me too, And they're like, wait.

00:51:38
Speaker 1: I wasn't cool enough when Cony came out to go, that's Bruce's drummer. I knew Max Weinberg seven or whatever it was, and I was like attracted back.

00:51:44
Speaker 2: Pretty cool. Okay, that's number two.

00:51:46
Speaker 1: Do you want to take a shot at the the number one artist before we get to number one, So the Bob Dylan, the mechanical recordings were number eleven overall, so it's publishing went for that amount, but number eleven his mechanical recordings and his voice hundred fifty million.

00:52:01
Speaker 2: Wow, And I'll roll down some of these before we get to one. Motley Crue at twelve one.

00:52:04
Speaker 1: Point fifty million, all our million interesting Chili Peppers at thirteen one hundred and forty million.

00:52:08
Speaker 2: That's a lot of songs. Chili Peppers are awesome, a lot of great songs.

00:52:12
Speaker 1: And the story about the Chili Peppers, because now you're getting into things I cared about because I consume them early on so I wanted to learn more, is that their lead singer couldn't really sing when they started, Anthony Keiatis, which.

00:52:25
Speaker 2: Is why they did a lot of.

00:52:28
Speaker 4: That.

00:52:28
Speaker 1: He had to learn how to sing really, so was not a good singer at all. Didn't even try to fake it like it was a bad singer.

00:52:34
Speaker 2: Wow.

00:52:34
Speaker 1: But that's one of those stories of somebody not having a skill, so we has to develop something else that makes them stand out so much that it becomes so original. And his singing voice it developed and.

00:52:45
Speaker 2: It all started kind of with under the Bridge, right kind of because that was their big Yeah, that was a hit that kind of got them hit.

00:52:52
Speaker 1: Yes, like mainstream success pop radio. Yeah, but like that whole Blood Sugar Sex Magic album. I Love the Children, Like that's our age. I got that from like random health or like you know, oh yeah, you're a Penn CDs for any I think I still all like four dollars, you know what? I think I did too, Shakira Imagine Dragons both at one hundred million.

00:53:16
Speaker 2: Wow.

00:53:17
Speaker 1: Stevie Nicks thought it'd be more, but I guess she would probably only own a part of Fleetwood Mac Fleetwood Mac, The Beach Boys at seventeen Wow, gosh, that's that's low. Zz Top at eighteen ninety million, James Brown of State nineteen ninety million, A Tina Turner at number twenty.

00:53:35
Speaker 2: She told her catalog of twenty twenty one for fifty million dollars. Let me ask you this, when do people decide to sell their catalog?

00:53:43
Speaker 1: Like, MI can just tell you have friends that have done it, and mostly it's if somebody makes them a great offer when they're not listing it. One of my friends sold theirs for like seven million bucks pretty recently didn't have their catalog listed to sell, but I think there was a grab. It was a time when it was pretty hot to try to grab catalogs. I have a songwriter friend who sold theirs for about ten wow, and he has like forty number one.

00:54:09
Speaker 2: So do you start looking at like, Okay, this is how much I make off my catalog my owning it.

00:54:13
Speaker 1: Or it's also like if I sell it, what can I make if the money sits in this kind of account and just draws interest versus Yeah, so you're doing that math too, and you're having to have a like a specialist come in and guess with you. And sometimes too it's just like i'd like the lump sum, sure, I'd like it now to buy stuff. I mean sometimes it's just that elementary as well. But then once you sell it, you don't own it anymore. Like they can put in a commercial, they can do anything, and it's that's crazy. Now you can put stipulations in a contract that says you can't use it for porn or stuff like that, but then it may make it less valuable to somebody buying it.

00:54:48
Speaker 2: Yeah, but mostly you sell it, wow, and it's not used to say save by bye, but I mean everyone will always think it's still yours anyway, and its kind of by bye anyway.

00:54:58
Speaker 1: Like once you release, it just kind of exists everywhere, and if someone wanted to use it, they would. You'd make your thousands of dollars each time. But lucrative obviously if you have hits. Yeah, and like Al Dean sold his catalog, I don't know, I'm gonna guess around twenty million when I remember, but he doesn't write a lot of songs, he just sings them. So he sold his mechanics, you know, his his voice, his voice, Yeah, the number one. You wanna take a shot at it. The Beatles, I don't think they They did sell their calog, but it was a long time ago. Michael Jacks Michael.

00:55:29
Speaker 2: Jackson, right, and I think then Apple bought it.

00:55:31
Speaker 1: Back, but I don't know that it's been recent where it was an elevated price, right.

00:55:35
Speaker 2: Ooh okay, so they're not number one, Michael Jackson number.

00:55:40
Speaker 1: One, Yeah, seven hundred and fifty million. I wonder what the Beatles before we get to Jackson's the Beatles music catalog price, Oh gosh, it's been valued, but it hasn't been sold. It's valued now at one billion.

00:55:56
Speaker 2: One billion dollars and who owns it?

00:55:59
Speaker 1: Seven years after Michael Jackson died, Sony ATV agreed to pay and they're not for sure, but they only own a part of the steak. And I think Paul McCartney bought some of it. He tried, he tried to buy something. He tried to buy it from Michael Jackson.

00:56:13
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's the story. Michael Jackson outbid him for it.

00:56:17
Speaker 1: I think Michael Jackson told him about it and then ended up outbidding him for it.

00:56:21
Speaker 2: Wow.

00:56:22
Speaker 1: But the whole catalog has not been sold to one person, which is why is not on the list. But for half of the catalog, Sony ATV agreed to pay seven hundred and fifty million dollars, it's worth an excess of over a billion dollars.

00:56:35
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, altogether, and that'll continue to make money for years and years and years. Michael Jackson complete catalog seven hundred fifty million bucks.

00:56:43
Speaker 1: Wow, biggest song. I mean, he's got a ruler.

00:56:47
Speaker 2: I was going to go beat it, no, Bill Jean, Billy Jean. I wouldn't argue it.

00:57:00
Speaker 1: I would go I would guess Billy Jean for the song Thriller for the culture, because that was a seven minute music video. They showed a movie theater and with the iconic always make money on that in the Halloween time always. But let's say if we can get to top five songs.

00:57:16
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna let's see how many Michael Jackson's songs we know? Fun game.

00:57:21
Speaker 1: I like it because it's got to be thirty. It's got to be if you think we can come up with thirty? Oh you mean before I look?

00:57:27
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you and I Oh, I don't know. I bet we can do ten.

00:57:30
Speaker 6: Okay, the Bobby cast will be right back. This is the Bobby Cast, Uh, Billy Jean.

00:57:47
Speaker 1: We'll take turns and then you have thriller. Really And I'm gonna go with bad.

00:57:56
Speaker 2: Beat it black or white? Black? Black, no, no, no?

00:58:01
Speaker 1: Does a matter of yeah, black and white. I don't know if it's black or black an, but it's black or I think it's a black or yeah white tea good.

00:58:09
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with do you remember the time, We're gonna go more than ten? Then when we fell in love? Remember the time? Go ahead, don't stop? Do you get enough? Good. Don't stop till you get enough? Who don't stop till you get enough? Now the question is can I do so? ABC gotta be Jacksonphone's got to be part of it? Did you right? I don't know if he wrote any those, but I'm saying, do we count that in our game? Michael Jackson? I said, let's just go Michael Jackson. No, jacksonpone. Okay, so is it back over to me?

00:58:43
Speaker 4: Can I do?

00:58:43
Speaker 2: Say? Say? Say, what's that? Him and Paul McCartney? Yeah? Right, Uh sure? How does that one go? I don't think I know that one.

00:58:50
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's him or Palmy. You will and I know when I play it, but I don't know if it's.

00:58:57
Speaker 2: Hey. If you do that, we gotta do. We are the world.

00:58:59
Speaker 1: Then he read he read that he did with Lionel Richie. So this is Paul McCarney. Michael Jackson, say say, say.

00:59:14
Speaker 2: You'll know that? Maybe do you know this? You recognize this? You may know the chorus? Yeah, come on, I think you were waiting for it. That's Paul.

00:59:32
Speaker 1: Say say say that's how it goes. But if it never gets there, I can't find it. Well, Okay, stop with the Bob Dylan. That's it's Neil Young, dude, whatever, I'm not doing that. Let me if he wrote it, can it count?

00:59:50
Speaker 2: Yes? Who wrote? Say say say, say, say say.

00:59:57
Speaker 1: It was written about Michael Jackson and Paul McCartney. So I'm gonna count that.

01:00:00
Speaker 2: Let's go.

01:00:01
Speaker 1: Okay, man in the mirror, I'm gonna go Ebanie and Ivory Ebany and I think that's Pau mcartney, Michael Jackson again, And.

01:00:10
Speaker 2: No, that's Stevie Wonder. Dude. Are you sure? No?

01:00:14
Speaker 1: It's Ebony and Ivory, Paul McCarney and Stevie Wonder. I got my famous soul singers mixed up. Okay, I gotta get another one. Then, So you said man in the Mirror and I missed that Ebanie. I thought Michael Jackson. I'd have it five hundred bucks. I think I probably got that, and say say say in the same blur. Okay, So we're back to me and I'm I'm out.

01:00:37
Speaker 2: I think I'm out. Do we do beat it? We did?

01:00:41
Speaker 1: And bad?

01:00:42
Speaker 2: We do bad? The list it's literally right in front of it even time, and I think we haven't done Jackson. We are the world. Yeah, you gotta put that in there. But okay, but I didn't. I didn't get that one though. It's okay. We're in the world collective now we can work together because I'm out thinking of Michael Jackson eighty oh, walking on the there's a walk in something right, walking on the ceiling, dancing on the ceilings, Linel Richie mm hmm, same timeframe.

01:01:17
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna pull them up because we only got six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven before we needed help. You're snapping, Oh gosh, what is that song? Hmmm, we're about to be angry with ourselves.

01:01:31
Speaker 2: Are you doing anything with Whitney Houston? I just know it. They hang out. No, no, like like a song, like a song. Do they do something together?

01:01:38
Speaker 1: Oh dude, we're stupid. We missed to the top five. I'm telling you, I'm thinking of the one that you just saw.

01:01:44
Speaker 2: You're not thinking of this one, but you will know it. I want to rock with you. That's I wasn't thinking of it with this, Oh no, dancing to the sun and then did the don did the don't dune you? Okay?

01:01:58
Speaker 3: No? No?

01:01:59
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, okay, it's a smooth criminal dang.

01:02:03
Speaker 1: And that's two, which was covered later by alien Ant Farm.

01:02:09
Speaker 2: Dude, what am I thinking of? Oh lady with high his own way you move? Just the way I get that. Come on, Oh, come on, gotta help me. It's just the way. That's it, the way you move, the way you move. Okay, that's it. Come on, I'm not there, but I'm positive that's it. Billy Jean rock with you. We got that beat it Remember the time I'll talk to you good enough?

01:02:47
Speaker 5: Oh?

01:02:48
Speaker 2: What about from Free Willie?

01:02:49
Speaker 1: Oh gosh, what was the name of that song? Because that was the jam? Yes, it was, and I haven't pulled it. There's the way you make me feel.

01:02:57
Speaker 2: That's the way you make me feel, not make me move. That's it. What did I say, make me move? Okay, that's okay. I mean we were still trying to figure it out. The way you made me feel? Free Willy. What's the name of that song? Everyone's yelling, everyone's yelling. They they say human nature, black or white?

01:03:12
Speaker 3: Bad?

01:03:13
Speaker 1: The Girl is Mine with Paul McCartney. I think that was the other one I was thinking.

01:03:16
Speaker 2: When you're thinking of instead of Ebony yep Man in the mirror, Dirty Diana, Do you remember that? No, I bet you do. This kind of sounds familiar already. I'm gonna fess yeah, because it sounds like thriller. That's what I'm thinking of it. Oh, crap, went to the wrong one. Whatever, whatever, Dirty Diana do. What's the Free Willy one? We gotta come up with that one that was something together. Get dude, dud dude, come on, we gotta find something free, free, something together. If it's just called Free Willy, maybe it's called Free Willie. We're idiots. It's called Oh my God, will you be There? Oh? I would have never gotten maybe maybe, but I know this song? Will you be there? This, this song is so freaking good man. I don't think my kids know that one. I'm gonna show them this one today. You're gonna make them watch Jerry Maguire and Free Willie. No, no, we're not watching Free Willy Top five Michael Jacksonson. I take Top five Michael Jackson song. I don't know about all that.

01:04:56
Speaker 1: God dang, that's a good song. And Free Willy was a fair movie. Sure, it's pretty good for the time.

01:05:01
Speaker 2: Who actually, I don't think I ever watched it. Phrase Free in the Whale? What is the name of that song again? Will you be there? Will you be there?

01:05:10
Speaker 1: So we had about twenty that we got.

01:05:12
Speaker 2: That's pretty good. I thought ten, two, three.

01:05:13
Speaker 1: Four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen fifty.

01:05:17
Speaker 2: We got sixteen pretty impressive, and we stopped. We did no No Jackson five songs? Oh man, do we even want to go there? I wanted to start bragging.

01:05:25
Speaker 1: Now, well you do the hits first, ABC. Sure, I want you back Rock and Robbin? Do they write rock and rock rock?

01:05:31
Speaker 3: Oh?

01:05:31
Speaker 2: I don't think so.

01:05:32
Speaker 1: That's got to be a cover, but it also could be the mechanical parts Rock and Robin. Yeah, I was written before that, but Michael Jackson it's on his twentieth written by Leon Renee under the pseudonym Jimmy Thomas.

01:05:45
Speaker 2: What would You Do? Then?

01:05:46
Speaker 1: Recorded by Bobby Day in nineteen fifty eight, that's the one we know.

01:05:50
Speaker 2: Yeah, rocks in the tree top all day long. But then the kid, Michael Jackson kind of crushed it. Oh yeah, dude, yeah, yeah, he kind of crushed it.

01:06:00
Speaker 1: That's like the sequel being as good as the original. It's hard to do, did it? That's the biggest selling catalogs. What are you gonna say?

01:06:08
Speaker 2: Are you trying to think of other Jackson five? Oh yeah, yeah, I can like just pull them up. ABC. Oh what about them?

01:06:15
Speaker 1: Imagine little brother like you, you've spent your whole life, You're nineteen, whole life, it's a long time relevant speaking. And then your six year old brothers is the most famous person in the band. You want to kick him in the head of it.

01:06:24
Speaker 2: And what I've thought about though, is that what if you had that voice too when you were five or you know, however old Michael was and like, but they didn't decide to do a band until you were like thirteen. He and he's the lead singer too. Yeah, so here you go.

01:06:40
Speaker 1: Uh, I want you back yep, ABC, ah be there be there jam. Little Michael's singing that yeah, man, so good.

01:06:51
Speaker 4: Uh.

01:06:51
Speaker 1: They have a lot of Christmas songs, Oh, of course, a lot of Christmas. I saw Mamas sitting Santa Claus their number one song right now. Well because but to be fair, Christmas is sure still top in the last year. Santa Claus is coming Town three and thirty six million, Frosty the Snowman. But their main songs I want you back at number one, ABC, I'll be there at three, Who's Loving You at four?

01:07:14
Speaker 2: I don't know that one. Come on, play at Tito, Tito, play piano. I have no idea.

01:07:23
Speaker 1: It's funny there's a Randy Jackson in it, but it's not the Randy Jackson American idol.

01:07:28
Speaker 2: God dang, gosh, Michael, it must be.

01:07:32
Speaker 1: It has to be a cover though, right that that sounds like somethings are in the fifties.

01:07:35
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, huh. I'm gonna look at one more thing here. This is the Jackson five and this was all? Was this all Quincy Jones? Do you know? I don't have the answer to that. Obviously a lot was.

01:07:49
Speaker 1: I think a lot of Jackson five was Quincy Jones dancing machine and I don't know if I was.

01:07:53
Speaker 2: Oh, they have a ton of songs that are probably covers. But let's see, you know, dancing, dancing, dance, I'm a dancing machine. Oh gosh, this must have been older Jackson five. Jam Little Bitty Pretty One has gotta be a cover of the Big Bobber though, right, maybe it's not.

01:08:14
Speaker 6: Maybe it's not.

01:08:17
Speaker 2: If that's the one that's definitely a cover, Little Bitty Pretty One, Yeah, it's a song cover it cover it's Bobby Day as well. Oh little Pretty one. Yeah, I'm being the Totino's commercial. That's what this is. Yeah, the four Tonys.

01:08:33
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's how I obviously we know the song from back in the day. But they had a commercial it's the four Tonys in the first guy it's a pizza and the next because it's the sound you make when pizza. Something's gonna eat.

01:08:45
Speaker 2: Yeah, then.

01:08:50
Speaker 1: That's funny. All I do is think you darling, dear sugar d I don't know those I want you back obviously. I guess they had four or five like big pop song, hmmm, rock and Robin. Then they goes to the live stuff. All right, Well, there's the number number one catleg microphone, and I'm gonna announce that I bought it. I mean, I was using this to let everyone know that I bought the catalog.

01:09:14
Speaker 2: Which one would you buy it? Well, I mean, I mean you'd obviously buy number one, but you.

01:09:18
Speaker 1: Mean for personal Just if I could buy it and nobody else could listen to it's only mine, I could listen as yours man, and I'm not mine.

01:09:24
Speaker 2: Gosh, and no one else can ever hear it again, and I'm not monetizing it.

01:09:28
Speaker 1: Of those, now that I replan back, maybe the Police. I mean, dude, there was a lot of because that kind of made me go, oh, I forgot how really good this stuff is. The Police is good maybe for like the Chili Peppers that didn't make Top ten, but it was like of my personal I probably listen to the Chili Peppers more than anything else on that list through my life.

01:09:49
Speaker 2: But yeah, probably that you probably Paul Simon, Paul Simon, Yeah, Paul, probably three or four for me. Bob Dylan's great and I love it and I respect it, and I really really love what he does. But I think listening to that over and over would drive me a little nuts, just because you know, he's not a great singer. Yeah, thank you everyone for listening to this episode the Bobby Cast. It is. You think it's snowed a lot more since it hasn't stopped falling, so it's still going small flakes though, Yeah, a little little bitty flakes. Yeah, little bitty bitty flakes. Thank you, guys, and we'll see you next time. Thanks for listening to a Bobby Cast production.