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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox Sports Radio Ryan Fitzpatrick.

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Speaker 2: You can find him on NFL Prime Video, the Thursday Night Football Analyst, and Prime Video will present its second NFL Wild Card game Saturday. It'll be the Bears and the Packers that'll be at Soldier Field. They start their coverage at seven thirty Eastern only on Prime. Looks like he's got some product in his hair. Probably worked on his beard beard as well. Which one do you spend more time on your hair or your beard beard?

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Speaker 3: Quite a bit of time on the beard this morning. Actually trimmed the edges of my mustache for you.

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Speaker 4: Let's tell you know, I like you nice.

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Speaker 2: I did wonder about this where we put labels on players, and I wonder about you going to Harvard if that was there any positive that you went to Harvard or or what negatives when you were going into the NFL.

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Speaker 3: I think the initial negative was a funny one, which was do you actually like football or do you have other interests?

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Speaker 4: Are you going to become a doctor or something?

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Speaker 3: And that was that was something I had to kind of overcome and could overcome that one pretty early, just in terms of passion and how much I enjoyed playing the game. And then I think, you know, I accepted that label because it was always, oh, he's smart. He could pick up a playbook, and we bring this guy in, he'll pick up the playbook quickly. And when I got to Tennessee, which was year nine for me, dal Loggins was the offensiveporter, Mike Munchek was the head coach, wasn't really into it or feeling it, and wasn't picking up the playbook very quick. So dal Loggins challenged me and said, dude, I thought you were smart. I can't believe you're having a hard time with this. And that night I sat down and learned the whole playbook and came back the next day and was ready to go.

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Speaker 2: Okay, But is there a correlation between going to an IVY League school and being football smart?

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Speaker 4: No, I don't think so.

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Speaker 3: I mean, there's there's not, but I always try to convince people that there was a correlation.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Let's look at the Bears in the Packers, and I'm wondering who has the most pressure on them going into this game. If I go Matt Lafleur, Ben Johnson, is you know, not facing the same pressure that I'm sure Lafleur is, but how would you kind of level out the pressure on either of these teams and coaches and quarterbacks.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Lafloor's got a lot more pressure on him. Ben Johnson's masterful job this year, what he's done with this team, completely changing around in a year, what he's done with Kayleb Williams. I think it's been great, and really just the mentality of who they are, especially offensively, they have an identity.

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Speaker 4: They're physical, They're going to.

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Speaker 3: Run it straight down your throat, They're going to do the play action stuff. But Lafloor, I mean, they've lost four in a row and this is a big moment for him. You know, Jordan Love hasn't played for two and a half weeks. They just everybody in Week eighteen, so all their stars are going to be fresh. Josh Jacobs hopefully will be as fresh as he's been since that New York game where he got injured. But Lafleur's got the most pressure on him coming in and trying.

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Speaker 4: To win this game. And I think Jordan Love as well.

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Speaker 3: You think about last year and that game versus the Eagles in the playoffs. He's got a lot to prove and he's had a great season, so I'm hoping he comes out and has.

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Speaker 4: A good game.

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Speaker 2: Is it crazy to say, is Matt Lafleur on a hot seat there in Green Bay?

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Speaker 4: I think that's crazy to say.

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Speaker 3: I think if you look at the organization and know them making rash decisions, I don't think that's who they are. So I think it ratchets up even more for next year if they don't win this game and they have a poor showing on offense.

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Speaker 4: But I don't think he's on the hot seat.

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Speaker 2: No. I talked to Dan Olovsky yesterday. He said he felt like Sean McDermott might be coaching for his job this weekend.

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Speaker 4: That would also be shocking to me if that was the case. I think if anything.

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Speaker 3: There, you know, maybe they well they might lose Joe Brady, that coordinator, but if they don't win this game, maybe they try to freshen that up and look somewhere else. But that game is going to be really interesting because the Bills, at least as of yesterday, were still favored in that game on the road going to Jacksonville. But Jacksonville win an eight in a row just kind of putting on their tape the last few days and watching them.

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Speaker 4: It's been Liam Cohen and Trevor Lawrence.

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Speaker 3: It's been great to watch Trevor Lawrence is really these last eight or nine games.

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Speaker 5: But what's different Ryan, So I think, first of all it.

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Speaker 4: Is just the confidence. But they had.

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Speaker 3: You know, they played Seattle and the Rams and only score twelve points and seven points right before their bye week, they went into the buy. I don't know what they did, but they came out guns of blazing.

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Speaker 4: I think the addition of Jacobe Myers helped.

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Speaker 3: But Parker Washington has been awesome on that offense. They've got a ton of talent. But Trevor is playing with a ton of confidence back there, and even last week and a week before watching the games, watching him get pressured, his ability to see it, to get the ball out and throw it accurately. He's done a great job through the year of getting better and better at that. So confidence is such a huge thing for quarterbacks, especially quarterbacks that have been up and down, and Trevor's playing at a really high level right now.

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Speaker 2: So you can learn that that's a learned skill that you can see it, throw it, you can see it before it happens, you know.

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Speaker 3: I think part of it for him is being more comfortable in the offense. I think it's also having a coach that demands more of you, and that's a huge thing with Trevor this year is Liam Cohen and the demands that he has put on him. But yes, you can certainly that's something you can learn throughout a season and get better and better at. And I think Liam Cohen we got to give him some flowers because you look at Baker last year compared.

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Speaker 4: To this year and his numbers.

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Speaker 3: There's no crazy coincidence there that Liam Cohen was his coach last year and has really done wonders with Trevor Lawrence this year.

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Speaker 2: We heard that maybe John Harball lost the locker room. Ian Rappaport reported that Adam Schefter came back and said that that wasn't the case in Baltimore. But how does a coach lose the locker room?

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Speaker 3: I love the Schefter versus Round, Yeah, the reports, the inside the reports. How does a coach lose the locker room? I think part of it and I don't know anything about that situation, so not speaking on that, just speaking in general. Part of it is, and I've seen over the years, if you don't demand the same thing, the same commitment to excellence out of your great players that you do out of the young rookies. It's easy for a coach to come in and yell at these young guys and demand a lot out of the young guys. But when you don't do that with the best players on your team and the stars, and you kind of let them get away with things, I think that's the first way where you can start to lose the locker room and guys can start questioning your consistency as a leader.

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Speaker 2: The elevation progression of Drake may it's kind of remarkable when you consider he's probably going to finish second in MVP. Now, we have seen those quarterbacks who make that jump in the second year, But how do you assess how he's doing that?

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Speaker 5: When they do have a running game, it doesn't feel.

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Speaker 2: Like they have a lot of stars at the wide receiver tight end positions.

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Speaker 3: I think when quarterback we talk about all the time infrastructure. So Mike Rabele gets there and what does he do? He gets him a number one receiver and Stefon Diggs. He goes and gets a great play caller some would argue the best play call in the last twenty years in the NFL, and Josh McDaniels, and then he all so bolsters the offensive line. You know, he gets Will Campbell, he gets Morgan Moses, he brings in Bradbury at center.

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Speaker 4: So it's like all these things.

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Speaker 3: The protection got better, the star player he could throw too when it's one on one got much better, and the offense around him.

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Speaker 4: And the thing I love about that system.

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Speaker 3: I was in that system with Bill O'Brien in my tenth year in the NFL, and if you draw a line in my career, what it was before year ten and after year ten and after I learned more in that tenth year than I've ever learned in my career about football, the way they teach it, the demands they put on a quarterback. So it's really nice to see the ascension of Drake May this year.

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Speaker 4: And the scary part is they're going to demand so much of them. It's just going to get better and better and better.

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Speaker 2: Okay, but what are you getting in year ten that you didn't get in the previous nine years.

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Speaker 3: For me, it was just the way that I looked at the game all of a sudden, and you know, a lot of these offenses now are going away from demanding everything out of the quarterback the mic points, knowing every little intricacy about the run game, why we're doing things on specific plays, what defenses are doing, and why what are they trying to attack you with?

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Speaker 4: How are they trying to combat you.

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Speaker 3: It was just a completely different way for me to look at football and you know, and knowing that every single thing that.

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Speaker 4: We did had a purpose.

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Speaker 3: It was really cool for me to be able to take that then and use it for the rest of my career.

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Speaker 2: Now give you a better understanding of Tom Brady's greatness of.

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Speaker 3: How that absolutely I mean full complete control the whole time, but just the demands that it put on him early in his career and the greatness that we all got to sit back and witness. He was in complete command the whole time and really amazing when you get to kind of see the way that it's made behind closed doors.

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Speaker 5: Did you feel like he was better than you? Who's that Brady? Yes?

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Speaker 2: Yes, I mean no, I'm not talking about the end result. I'm talking about when he got on the field. You got on the field. Did you get did you have to come to that conclusion He's just better than me?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, But it was every game was, you know, on a consistent, long term basis, he was always going to be better than me. I just had to be better than him, you know, in that moment for that specific day. And I think we played fourteen times and I was better than him three.

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Speaker 5: Of fourteen times.

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Speaker 4: Percentages not great, but there was three of them, Okay.

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Speaker 2: And I didn't go to Harvard, so I'm not good at the numbers, PAULI, that's probably not good percentage, you're asking me.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well that's right.

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Speaker 2: In fact, there's nobody over here that I can add, well, Todd went to NYU that that's not a good percentage.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but that's not an IVY League school.

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Speaker 4: Though.

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Speaker 3: Hey, I'm still I'm still okay with it. Though I realized those three victory.

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Speaker 5: Uh have fun?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, what Paul Ryan won twenty one point four percent of the time.

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Speaker 5: Okay, all right, well there you go one fifth?

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Speaker 2: Okay, But how mad was Brady in those three losses?

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Speaker 5: To you?

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Speaker 2: When you guys, you know, quarterbacks always say hey, great gang, great gang, great game.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know you.

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Speaker 4: Know, it didn't. It didn't go very well. He wasn't very happy. He never liked.

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Speaker 2: Losing, so he never said, hey, you know, that's awesome, congrat I'm happy for you, Ryan.

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Speaker 3: No, I don't think it ever went that way because the last one was the last one when it was when I was in Miami and it was his last regular season game at Foxborough.

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Speaker 4: So it was not very happy about that one. Wow.

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Speaker 5: Well, well you're gonna be a you know, trivial pursuit question.

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Speaker 3: Maybe I got a lot of them, though, Dan, I got you know, you through the most interceptions and this same you know, the only NFL quarterback to throw six touchdowns and no picks in a game. And no touchdowns and six picks. So I'll hang on that one forever.

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Speaker 2: You know what, I'm at a roundable pause. Six and oh oh and six.

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Speaker 5: I like it. I like it. It takes a special player, Yes, it does. Have fun Saturday night. Thanks for joining.

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Speaker 4: Us, yep, thank you very much.

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Speaker 5: We're looking forward to That's Ryan Fitzpatrick.

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Speaker 2: And just got word that the Dolphins have fired Mike McDaniel. And let's go back to when John Harball was fired. Harball's agent said that he had already been contacted by more NFL teams than there were current openings, six openings, seven teams reaching out, So let's take out the Ravens. There were a couple of teams and maybe a playoff team from what I'm told, that might have at least put a bug in the ear of the agent of John Harball if something were to happen, whether that's true or not, or could happen. So I guess if you're looking at the Miami Dolphins and you got Mike McDaniel, and I even said this, when this was all taking place, there are coaches walking around with their cell phones hoping that a text or a phone call from up above doesn't happen. And Mike McDaniel was one of those coaches. Because if now I don't know if John Harball is interested or Kevin Stefanski's interested, but you're firing him on a Thursday, What do you know now that you didn't know on Monday, other than John Harbaugh is now available.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Ston, my guess is I see it going like this? We waited. Now we're going to stick to you right now. We like, we believe you, we believe in it. Let's have a meeting. So what are you thinking for next season? While we start with two? Over're keeping him? Okay, and you're fired?

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Speaker 4: All right?

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Speaker 5: Thank you, Mike, and uh, good luck to you in the future. But we're going to part ways.

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Speaker 4: Thank you.

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Speaker 6: Mike McDaniel took over the Dolphins in twenty twenty two, nine and eight, got to the wildcard, got to the playoff appearance, then there were eleven and six another wild card. But they're the number one offensive football last year, the eighteenth ranked offensive football this year, the twenty sixth ranked offensive football.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it just feels like that he survived.

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Speaker 2: We thought, Okay, if you make it to Wednesday, chances are you're going to be safe.

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Speaker 5: Man. Yes, Hud.

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Speaker 8: At least they got it in this week because there's no black next Monday. You got to get it within the sixth day period or it's really ridiculously.

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Speaker 2: Well, there might be who knows, whatever happens this weekend. And look, I'm gonna go back to what Dan Orlovsky said, and he's connected, and I said, you know, is Sean McDermott coaching for his job? And he said, I hate to answer this, but if I'm going to be honest, I would say yes. I don't know if that's true or not. It feels like Sean McDermott's been coaching for his job for the last couple of years. But they're favored in Jacksonville against the team that's hotter than anybody right now, Mike McDaniel out in Miami. Is that a good job? Because that's you know, you got to look at it and you got to be honest and you go, okay. Is the Raiders job a good job? No, Atlanta a good job. We keep trying to convince ourselves that it's a good job.

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Speaker 5: I do.

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Speaker 2: I keep going, golly, they got to be better. Is Tennessee a good job? That one feels like if as long as I have patience from up above, give me three years. I got my quarterback. I like my quarterback. He's competitive, he wants to be great. I got cap room. If you give me three years, maybe I can bring this team back to where they were with Mike brabl Is Cleveland a good job, I would say, No, you don't have a quarterback, you got front office, you got an owner who medals great fan base, but your best asset you should have traded. The Giants appear to be that. That to me is a good job. I think they should be better than what they are. And I don't want to take a job because historically it's a better job than it used to be. Like Baltimore is a great job because that's ownership, front office, and they got a roster and you know, I got my quarterback. Great football town, Yes Ton, And with all the.

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Speaker 8: Parody in recent years, you can't necessarily take or not take a job because you're worried about the competitiveness of the division. Like if you're the joblins oh, I got to chase after? How am I going to get past the Bills and Patriots? If you're going to be given three four years and one year. As we know, some teams make the playss and they don't make the playss the next year. I wonder how much they've factored that and how tough the division is. Are you going to take a coaching government?

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Speaker 2: The one thing that I thought of when we got this news is what role did Troy Aikman play in this? He's a consultant to help them find their next general manager. I believe, well, now he can help them find their next head coach done.

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Speaker 5: While having another job.

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Speaker 6: By the way, that seems to be the new path these days. Matt Ryan wants to stay at CBS, He's not.

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Speaker 5: They're not gonna They're not gonna allow that.

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Speaker 6: How can they not?

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Speaker 5: You mean at the NFL or CBS. CBS isn't going to do it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Matt, No, Matt Ryan, if you want to be the president of the Falcons, then be the president of the I mean no, no, be silly. You want to be hands on and you want to have that job. You're not traveling back and forth from New York to Atlanta. You know, commit to the job. If I'm CBS, losing Matt Ryan is not like losing Bill Kauer. Now he did a really good job there. But I would say, do your job, don't try to do both. Troy's not doing this during this season. I mean, Tom Brady is I've had a problem with that. But Troy, he's going to be a consultant and this is going to be until they find their coach and general manager. Then he's going to go back to being a broadcaster. But Matt Ryan, I know that he talked about that, but I think that they decided that, Hey, I got to be all in on this.

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Speaker 5: Yes, Marv.

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Speaker 9: Going back to the Dolphins real fast, Are they in the same category as like the Raiders and the Jets and the Browns as far as just inept franchises because they got a longer playoff win route than a couple of those franchises. They're up there about twenty four to twenty five years with no playoff wins.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they thought they found their quarterback. They made the mistake of extending him not making him prove it. You got the Tyreek Hill situation, like who knows. They gave Way a couple of pieces prior to the trade deadline. I love their running back Wattle. Is he a number one?

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Speaker 5: I don't know. I don't know what you have there. That's part of the problem.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: At least if you see building blocks and you go, okay, we got that position. Our line is pretty good. Hey, we got our quarterback. We got a number one wide receiver.

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Speaker 5: Okay.

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Speaker 2: Those are things that you owt that. Everybody has to have good offensive line. We got our quarterback, and I got a number one wide receiver, okay, and then you can start to build. But these teams that we're talking about, a lot of these teams don't have that infrastructure. So Mike McDaniel's out and the Dolphins are in the market for a head coach.

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Speaker 2: As we make way for Jesse Palmer, speaking of hair, how much attention did you give your hair when you were playing football?

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Speaker 10: Not a lot, because I'm a sweater. I mean that, I mean two handoffs into the game, it wouldn't matter.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but the national anthem, you know you're up there doing you know, patent goes and all those things.

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Speaker 5: You didn't pat and goal.

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Speaker 10: You have the helmet on national anthem. The camera was not on me. I would try to stand as close to the head coach as I could, or or the star just to try to get in the reshot. But generally that was not I was not in focus for that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know I could see the vanity there. Uh, who does it, PAULI?

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Speaker 5: Sean McVay does it?

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Speaker 2: Oh, Sean McVay. Yeah, but he's a coach, so coaches, I mean Mad Lafloor. Let's be honest. I mean, those dudes are the eye probably getting their eyebrows waxed.

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Speaker 10: You listen from a guy that used to do it. I mean I made I made some mistakes down in Gainesville, Florida, by putting hair product in before a game. Like the worst thing ever to be dropping back on third and fifteen against an elite SEC pass rush and you have palmade in your eye as you're trying to figure out is the state, what's the safety doing?

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Speaker 5: What happens?

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Speaker 10: Where am I looking? Spurriers yelling at you over on the sideline? Like I ran into that problem a few times, So I learned my lesson. I think by the time I got to New York there was no more hair product before games.

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Speaker 2: If I would have told you before the season started, Alabama, all right, Georgia was not going to be in Ohio. State's not going to be advancing in Alabama as well, Ohio State, Georgia, and Alabama wouldn't be in the final four.

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Speaker 5: You would have said, what.

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Speaker 10: It's what's happening now in college football? I think this is the first time in the college football playoff era that those teams you just mentioned, Alabama, Georgia, Ohio State, and Clemson, not one of them are in the playoff. And I got to say, you know, I just from a fan standpoint, I kind of like the new blood thing. I know, nil and the portal that's changed everything, and this is the new normal moving forward. But I think Indiana is a great example, and obviously Ole Miss Miami. These are all great examples of programs that can completely flip very very quickly. Rosters change on a dime, and teams get competitive really really fast. And I think you're seeing a great example of at in this year's playoff.

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Speaker 5: But do you think this is the norm or this an aberration?

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Speaker 10: I think it's the norm moving forward. I still think the SEC is the best conference in college football top to bottom. I think it's still the best top to bottom, but not necessarily national championship every single year like we were used to for all of those years. Teams no longer can stockpile talent and five star recruits the way they used to at Georgia and Alabama and LSU and some of these programs. Today, if you're not on the field early in your career, you're out, You're in the portal, and you're getting paid more money to go play somewhere else. And so there's just more there's more discrepancy, there's more parody. From a roster standpoint, teams just simply aren't as deep anymore. And I mean at the start of the year, if you'd said to me, hey, Indiana is going to be at out Indian is going to be at Alabama and the Rose Bowl, I would have been like, okay, I mean I could see that. If you'd said it would be thirty five to three or whatever it was, I would have said, WHOA, that seems a bit aggressive. But there's there's just such a well coached team with so much talent, and this has been this has definitely been eye opening. I think for a lot of fans watching.

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Speaker 2: This all right, handicap ole miss in Miami because I'm I misjudged Miami. I didn't think they could be as physical as they were. That stood out. It was it was glaring, and I just never thought that I would see that.

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Speaker 10: I'm with you on that. I think Miami could win the whole thing based on that physicality you're talking about. I think in this era of college football, which with so much tempo and air raid and everybody's going fast and spreading the ball around, I still think games are run and lost in the trenches. And the way Miami's playing right now, especially in the playoff, that's where they're dominating people. I mean, that D line right now is ruthless. People can't block Ruben Bane, people can't block Messicor They've got twelve sacks in two playoff games. And then offensively, they're running the football with Mark Fletcher, a big, physical back who's going to play in the NFL. They got an outstanding offensive line. They're just staying on the field and they're running it down people's throats. Oh miss is supremely talented, no question. In Trinidad. Chambliss to me, especially after that Georgia game. You know, he's he's remarkable. And we called it their first playoff game against Tulane. They've got so many playmakers and that they don't have a ton of weaknesses, and they can run the ball too, but that physicality is going to get put to the test, and Olmiss better be able to run the ball with Key one Lacey against Miami and avoid third and longs, otherwise it could be a really long day for Trinidad. Chambliss.

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Speaker 2: What did Oregon learn from the first matchup with Indiana?

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Speaker 10: They got to be able to run the ball. I think that's where they got in trouble that first time, and that's ultimately really the identity of Oregon's offense. I know that Dante mor gets a lot of credit credit and a lot of the shine, and people are talking about him potentially being the first pick in next year's NFL draft if he decides to come out. But when you watch Oregon play, it still comes down to their ability to be physical and run the football. Danie Lanning has built that offensive line. They look like an NFL low line. They're really really big. That was a big question mark coming into the year. They had replaced four starters. They went to the portal and they brought in some big NFL bodies and they've got a deep stable of bats that are also very very big. You'll see four or five different guys playing this game against the Indiana. The problem in the first game is they weren't able to run it successfully and it got them in trouble. Indiana is excellent stopping. They run on defense and on third down. They've got a very exotic pressure package get that gives people fits and they were living in Oregon's backfield in those situations. If Oregon can't run the ball more effectively, I don't think Oregon can beat Indiana.

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Speaker 5: There was it. Working with Kirk Cousins.

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Speaker 10: It was amazing. We shared a lot of laughs in the in the chair getting our haircuts, and we were talking about demanding Passing Academy. Back in the day he was when he was at Michigan State playing. He was there and I was there as a counselor at the camp. I used to work the camp for a couple of years, and so kind of getting to know him there. We're catching up since then, and then we had this really interesting deep conversation about the future of pass rush in football. Kirk wanted to talk about where he sees the future in that going and the different decoordinators that that he finds really hard to game plan for. We had a very good x's and O session during our our great clip shoot.

00:28:44
Speaker 2: Okay, wait a minute, so what's he saying? What is the future of the pass rush?

00:28:47
Speaker 10: It's the exotic radar. Look, it's the one where everybody lines up and you don't.

00:28:52
Speaker 2: Wait, wait, you just gave us a new term, the exotic radar.

00:28:56
Speaker 5: Look, well, the rate.

00:28:58
Speaker 10: I mean a lot of people know what RD is like. The radar is like the Ravens used to do radar. When Ray Lewis was there and those guys, and it was like Rex Ryan and Marvin Lewis, you had no idea who was who was blitzaying, who was in a three point stance. Guys were dropping out, guys were rushing, and you almost had to guess on offense. You just weren't weren't sure what happened. Oddly enough, my rookie season probably the worst game I've ever played in my life. It was the fourth game of the preseason against that exact defense from the Ravens, and I had no idea where the pressure was coming from. I got sacked, fumbled, everything was going wrong. That defense that a lot of people are doing. Now we think that's going to be We both think that's going to be the future. Not just in the NFL, but you're gonna start seeing I think more and more college programs.

00:29:42
Speaker 5: To Okay, but what's that feeling like?

00:29:44
Speaker 2: Okay, you go to the line of scrimmage and you have you're supposed to show confidence and composure and poise, and you have no idea what's going on.

00:29:53
Speaker 7: No.

00:29:54
Speaker 10: I remember literally going to the line of scrimmage every single time I dropped back to pass, I had no idea if I was protected or not, not saying I wasn't sure if the guys upfront could block their man. I knew they could do that. What I didn't know, though, was, Hey, if the Sam linebacker blitzes, do I have to hit this fullback in the flat or can I hold on to it because he's going to get picked up And I can try to find a receiver on a fifteen yard in Rounte and you know, Usually when you know the game plan and you understand defense very well, you might have one or two snaps like that, a game where you're just not sure what's about to happen. I literally dropped back twenty times, lululess of what was happening. And Yeah, I need just to say that was That was a game I'll never forget. That was. That was unique.

00:30:44
Speaker 5: And it was a preseason game.

00:30:46
Speaker 2: It's not even a regular season game, but they're coming after you.

00:30:50
Speaker 10: We just got done playing Tom Coughlin and Jacksonville the week before, and they just played vanilla defense the entire game. They played Cover three, Amanda Man and Cover two and I literally I had this big day and I remember throwing it all over the place. I called my dad after that game and I said, Dad, I don't think the NFL is that hard there. We don't like I think the SEC was harder than playing defenses. It's so easy. They just line up. Very next week, a preseason game, it was Exotic Radar blitz Fest, and I had zero clue. I called my dad after that game and I took everything back everything.

00:31:27
Speaker 2: I mentioned this on the show yesterday. Indiana is a great story and Fernando Mendoza is byproxy a great story as well. I just don't know if we're going to get caught up. I don't know how good he is. I know he's going to be the number one pick, but like Dante More, somebody's going to be the second quarterback drafted. And I'm not sure if these are great prospects, good potential to be very good. So can you handicap these these two quarterbacks?

00:31:57
Speaker 10: Well, it's not a sure thing. I would agree with that. I'm trying to think back in the nineteen years I've been covering college football. I can probably count on one hand how many guys I knew coming out I thought were going to be good. Like I remember I knew Andrew luck was going to be good. I knew that, I knew Trevor Lawrence was going to be good. I felt good about that. Cam, yep, Cam, I just you knew he was just just just from a physical standpoint, a statue standpoint, he was going to be a problem. I think with Fernando, like, I'm a big fan of his and it's more I think more because of the cerebral and just how he processes things. I know he's not an elite athlete. His mobility has gotten better throughout his career. He makes really, really good decisions, and he stepped up. He's had he's had some Heisman moments. He's had some moments against good defenses this year where he's really he's really made big plays in big moments. You know, Dante Moore, this is really the only year you've ever seen Dante Moore play. He had five starts at UCLA as a true freshman two years ago. He sat last year behind Dylan Gabriel watching and watching him at Oregon, and then this year you've gotten to watch him. He's a very natural passer. There's a lot you like there. But yeah, it's going to be interesting. I mean, listen, the Raiders are sitting right now at number one, and you've got brock Bauers on offense, Ashton Gent, you know, whichever those two guys. If that's where they end up, you know, it's a porous offensive line. There's a lot of work there to be done. It'll be interesting. We'll overanalyze this to death over the next several months before the draft, but I think they're both really good prospects. I think ty Simpson's also a really good prospect, but I don't think there is a sure fire first overall pick necessarily in terms of one of those guys who's astronomically better than the other.

00:33:43
Speaker 2: Great to catch up with you, Good luck man, good luck with the two year old there and the campaign.

00:33:50
Speaker 10: You appreciate it, brother, We'll see it.

00:33:53
Speaker 5: Jesse Palmer