Clueless at 30, Top 5 Movie Quotes (In Our Lexicon) with Aisha Harris

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Speaker 1: And in for Josh this week, I'm Ayisha Harris.

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Speaker 2: Me this week on the show, Sharing the Gang from Clueless R thirty and we've got a review. I better not get a whatever from you. Aishaugh as If Adam plus the top five movie quotes in our lexicon and more.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Film Spotting and welcome to the show. Aisha Harris, of course from NPR's Pop Culture Happy Hour and the author of Wanna Be Reckonings with the Pop Culture That Shapes Me. It's great to have you back on the show. Aisha, Thank you.

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Speaker 1: It's always a pleasure to be here with you and Sava. Josh can't be here either, but happy to tick on the reins this week.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a gen X versus millennial movie quote showdown. Greed is good verse, show me the money, inconceivable, verse to infinity and beyond. The top five movie quotes in our lexicon is where we landed, and what we mean by that is, you know we're not going with I'll make him an offer he can't refuse. It's not the greatest all time movie quotes, though. You went gangster there in the opening of the show. Maybe you're making a lot of stern ultimatums and you're dropping Vito Corleone into your everyday speech. I don't know Ayisha.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe maybe I do quote Goodfellas a lot. I will say, then I'm not a mafia person at all.

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Speaker 2: But no, you know, you can find a way.

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Speaker 1: There's always a way.

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Speaker 2: The fun part of this is that unless you're regularly hanging out with people who grew up on the same movies you did, you often find yourself quoting from movies and the people you're quoting them around don't know what you're referencing, and they just stare back at you blankly. Since we do come from different generations, that might be the case with this top five. We're abusing ourselves while the other person looks back at us blankly. We'll have to see what happens.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's quite possible. I'm I will say though, as a preview, my list does kind of hop over multiple decades. So I'm just going to say it's I.

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Speaker 2: Wish I did I have. I'm gonna go ahead and say this. Now, this was not by design, obviously, I would never intend to do this. I have three choices from the same year. Oh interesting, somehow that ended up happening, I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Ye.

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Speaker 2: We will also play Massacre Theater and more, but first we take another look at Clueless for its thirtieth anniversary. The movie came to theaters in July nineteen ninety five, with writer director Amy Heckerlin returning to the la High School scene of her nineteen eighty two breakthrough Fast Times at Ridgemont High. The story is Heckerlin's riff on Jane Austen's Emma with Alsia Silverstone shared the busybody it girl of the fictional Bronson Alcott High School, another nod to nineteenth century women's lit heroes. Bronson Alcott was the father of Louisa May Alcott. The young cast was largely unknown. Silverstone was the girl from the Aerosmith videos. It was Paul Rudd's first film of note, and Britney Murphy's debut. Clueless made a respectable fifty six million at the box office, good enough to be the thirty second highest grosser of ninety five, putting it in the company of films like Terry Gilliam's Twelve Monkeys, the Sabrina remake with Harrison Ford, and the Sandra Bullock thriller The Net, but its pop culture impact was much greater. Remember movie soundtracks, Ayisha, there's a pretty good ones, right this is one of them.

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Speaker 1: This is one of them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. The Clueless soundtrack went platinum, selling over a million copies, featuring the likes of Radiohead, Counting Crows, the Beastie Boys, and Coolio who wasn't rolling with the Homies back in ninety five? Silverstone made the cover of Rolling Stone in September ninety five, And then there were the clothes and the quotable lines.

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Speaker 8: Would you look at that girl?

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Speaker 4: She is so adorably clue.

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Speaker 1: We've got to adopt her share.

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Speaker 2: She is toe up our stock with plummet.

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Speaker 4: Don't you want to use your popularity for a good cause? No? Come here, yeah, come here, hang with us?

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Speaker 1: Oh thank you. How do you like California?

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Speaker 4: Mea, I'm freaking I can really use some sort of a horrible refreshment.

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Speaker 2: Oh well, we do lunch in ten minutes.

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Speaker 7: We don't have any tea, but we have coke and stuff.

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Speaker 2: Oh shit, you guys got coke here?

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, yeah, this is America.

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Speaker 2: It's from a TV show, but a now ubiquitous pop culture quote that I'm guessing we've both caught ourselves using once or twice or one hundred times. Ayisha is hello, fellow kids. Steve Mushmi undercover and hilariously out of place as a high school student in a thirty rock cutaway. It's the perfect shorthand for those moments when you're painfully aware that you're trying to pull off some slang or trend the cool kids they're using, except well, you're not one of them. Maybe never were. Amy Heckerlein might have been one of the cool kids. She was certainly one of the coolest directors, coming off her debut what has to be the definitive high school movie, or at least the definitive high school sex comedy, nineteen eighty two's Fast Times at Ridgemont High. That one was written by an undercover Cameron Crowe, who really did blend in for a year as a student at Claremont High in San Diego. Heckerlein is a boomer, not in the urban dictionary sense. She's a literal baby boomer making a movie about gen xers, But at twenty eight, she might have felt more like an older sister or aunt to someone like Jennifer Jason Lee, who was playing fifteen year old Stacy. Fast forward to Clueless, our heroine cher Horowitz is still a teenager, but when principal photography began in November nineteen ninety four. Heckerlin was forty even with her high school movie Bona Fides and spending some time sitting in at Beverly Hills High. What gave her the confidence to think she could not only capture the idioms and expressions of mid nineties teens, but possible new ones that would become part of the culture was Clueless, not a giant ship headed straight for a Hello fellow kids, Iceberg, and yet Heckerlane navigated around it effortlessly. Aisha, tell me, and you can take these in any order.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Do you have a favorite bit of slang or a favorite Clueless quip? What's your relationship to Clueless? Neither of us was likely their opening weekend in the theater when it came out. I was the same age as Paul Rudd's Josh and also very much into Complaint Rock, as Sharon derisively dubs it, which made me about seven years younger than Paul Rudd actually was. You might have had a jeep like Shares, but it was one of those sidewalk cruisers like my daughter Olivia drives it tops out of two miles per hours. Yeah. So when did you first see Clueless? And what did you make of it? And finally, how did Heckerlane pull this off?

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Speaker 1: Oh Man, Well, okay, I guess I will start with how I first encountered it. So I was seven when this movie came out, and I remember being in the movie theater for some movie. I can't remember what it would it since it came out in ninety five. It might have been something like cast for The Friendly Ghost, I don't know. I was seeing something in the theater and I remember seeing the trailer and being like, oh, I really want to see this movie. But I was seven and my parents were very strict no movies, no PG thirteen movies until you're thirteen, Like that was a hard and fast role that they pretty much always stuffed by. So my first encounter with this movie was actually the TV show that aired not too long after the movie came out. It did not have Alicia Silverstone in the lead role that was played by Rachel Blanchard, but a lot of the other cast members, including Stacy Dash and Donald Faison, were in that show. So I watched that show. I remember I didn't have a soundtrack, but it was kind of like I had friends who had the soundtrack, and also I did my parents did buy me the CD ROM, the Clueless CD RAM, which I think was also based off the TV show where you got to like give characters makeovers and also like file through Shar's virtual closet.

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Speaker 2: Share.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So it was probably not until several years later when I could have actually like actually understood the movie that I actually saw the movie and it became such a touch, like I you know, and again, all of my friends had much more lenient parents, so I knew the slang, the as if and all that from them. But when I finally saw it, it was just one of those movies. It is fascinating to think that Amy Heckerlin is like the same age as my parents and she made this movie. It's like my parents were not at all right tip to what was going on. Especially you know, Amy Hecklin is from the East Coast, She's not from calif So it's not just about her age, but she's also coming at it from like a I am not from this culture in a way, and I think what she she had a really keen eye for understanding how to draw characters and make characters who yes, they have slang yes, they sound like I think some teenagers sounded like but at the time. But also this is based off of Emma, the Jane Austin book, And when you start with a piece of fiction that can easily translate across multiple generations, I think that makes it easier to create, to find an end to that kind of character design. So I don't know, it's not everyone has that talent, because there are plenty of examples of the how do you do fellow kids that I can think of, where it's like, what are we doing here? And to be fair, a lot of the characters in this film, or the performers in this film were not do they do not look like they are in high schoo and they definitely weren't. Stacy Dash was thirty or close to thirty. I mean she looks great, and she looks convincingly like a young girl.

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Speaker 2: Still was at least eighteen.

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Speaker 1: I think, yeah, she was a teenager, and Brittany Murphy was as well. But it is interesting to see some of the older the other people in the cast and like, you were clearly not in high school. You were far past high school. Even Paul Rudd seemed a little too old for being you know, just about to graduate from college. But yeah, it's a special skill, I think, and amyor Heckelin is one of the few people who was able to do that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, clearly she does have it. Before I jump in here, what about a favorite favorite line or particular phrase? Do you have one?

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Speaker 1: Oh? Okay? So I was torn because I was thinking about are the quote list that we have coming up? But this is not on my list and it's not giving it in a way. But I feel as though the moment that I love still is when Ty played by Brittany Murphy, is really upset with Schaer and she's like, why have I even listening to you? To begin with? You're a virgin who can't drive?

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Speaker 2: Who can't drive?

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Speaker 1: And then the way burn a burn, and then Brittany Murphy just does this like smirk where she cocks her head and her like her eyebrow. It's like the perfect look. It's like I got you, I got you. And then, of course, you know, SHARE's response is that's way harsh, Tie, And I do say that was way harsh Ty quite a bit.

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Speaker 2: Do you.

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Speaker 1: I can see that well mention on my list?

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Speaker 2: I saw a bit of trivia somewhere that supposedly Britney Murphy. For the rest of her too short life, that was the line she heard the most created back to her. People said that back to her all the time, and it was on many lists of the most iconic insults ever in movies. And I think that's one of her best moments, yeah, in this film, and I think it's one of Silverstone's best moments in the film as well, in terms of her response to that. I think my my favorite line. It's two that are competing with each other. Surprisingly enough, maybe Dan Hidea has one of the best equips in the movie playing Cher's dad, and it's when when Christian comes over and he's just being He's just being that kind of smug jirk that he is, you know, and he turns to him and says, do you think the death of Sammy Davis us left an opening in the rat pack? It's so perfect. But then, of course Cher has one of the best lines when when Josh in total seriousness, says he's talking about some fundraising event and he says, we might get Marky Mark to plant a celebrity tree, and she says, oh, how fabulous getting Marky Mark to take time from his busy pants dropping schedule to plant trees. And it's the delivery, but it's it's the humor. It's the the wit of those lines, right that that make this movie so good and make it still so good. And kind of going back to my question, I think you said it clearly, she has a talent. You know, this isn't This isn't a perfect analogy. I couldn't come up with a perfect analogy. Clearly the math doesn't check out here. And also, Amy Heckerling is far more talented than me. And I also didn't make a movie like Fast Times the original Am on High. But it's sort of like if I decided, you know, I'm just gonna I'm gonna follow my two high school age sons around for a year and pay attention to Minecraft and YouTube, and then I'm gonna make I'm gonna try to make the definitive like YouTube movie. I would never do that. There's no way I would feel like I could authentically capture that. And yet Heckerling did it. She did it somehow with Fast Times and Clueless, Heckerleen cements her status is one of gen X's pre eminent chroniclers, bridging the cultural chasm between the early eighties and mid nineties high school experience with un Hanny wit, style and charm, and it is this huge cultural chasm. It's hard to think about that those kids that we see represented in Fast Times in the kids we see represented in Clueless are technically, for whatever credence we give to these generational categories, they are the same generation. They are gen xers. Technically they are from the same generation, just on the early end and the back end, and yet they do feel like they are from completely different generations. And I think the wit is a huge part of the success of this film, and I think it does harken back to the source material that she is invoking and the way she uses some of that language, certainly, But I also think a big difference between this and something like Fast Times too, is there's an element that you would not have or you don't see on display in Fast Times because it's something we didn't think about in the eighties. I don't feel like this was a term that ever got thrown around in the eighties, and by the time we get to the mid nineties, a film like this had to have it. And it's irony self awareness, right and from the opening of this movie, you know that that's going to be a key element of the movie and a key part of its success. It's actually odd that, or it struck me as odd this time watching it, that the first bit of music that we hear is kids in America.

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Speaker 1: Oh my God, Why yes, Yes.

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Speaker 2: Kids in America is more like a song we might hear in Fast Times at Ridgemont High. It's from nineteen eighty one. At least from a timing standpoint, it's more appropriate to Fast Times. But with that frenetic cutting and everything, it feels like a commercial from the mid nineties. And sure enough what happens in the voiceover share comes on and points out, you guys are probably thinking this is a Noxima commercial, so you realize that that, yes, that's what it feels like. The rest of the movie doesn't feel like this at all. This isn't really the kind of music. Even I don't know if I necessarily need to read it as Heckerlan critiquing the song showing but it is almost as if she's saying, this isn't really the music the kids today are listening to. It is like the music that maybe advertisers think reflects the kids of today, kids in America. This is what kids are like. This is how they would shoot this, this is the soundtrack to it, this is how they would edit it. And so right away you understand that this movie is going to be very self aware. That Share is in on the joke, everybody's in on the joke. Heckerlin's certainly in on it, And it's going to be impossible to hate any of these characters, even though Share is certainly a character, and some of our friends are certainly characters who could reasonably be called snobs, and many of them are characters who a lot of us, probably in high school, would have thought were snobs and would have been intimidated by. But we don't feel that way about them. And that self awareness and that irony extends to all of the pop culture references. Right, the fact that the names of the characters are Share in Dion, and there's references to I can I can tein a Turner. Even if you don't necessarily believe Share, maybe understands that reference fully. Yeah, right, And how about Murray in that great scene where he's explaining that street slang is an increasingly valid form of expression. You know, there's just this clear sense of artifice. Yeah, and like the world of Austin High School has its own rules and customs and language, and everyone is just kind of putting on airrs to some extent and it works.

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Speaker 1: D So did you get your poor cards?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm a toast. How'd you do?

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Speaker 1: I totally choked.

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Speaker 2: My father is gonna go ballistic on me.

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Speaker 7: Mister Hall was way harsh.

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Speaker 1: He gave me a C minus.

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Speaker 2: Well, he gave me a sea, which drives on my entire average.

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Speaker 4: But I'll call you okay.

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Speaker 1: The language is so so crucial, and both from like a dialogue if we're talking about the like dialogue specifically, but also the cultural language that she Amy Heckling is really tapping into, I think kids in America, which, by the way, when I was watching it this time, I hadn't watched Clueless since before Barbie seeing the Barbie movie, and I realized this sounds very similar to I'm Just Ken. Trust me go back and listen to that song and then listen to it I'm Just Ken and the verses I have some similar melodic tones going on there, and I was like, is this inspired? I googled No, one seems to have picked up on this. Maybe it's just me, but it sounds I was like, this sounds like I'm just ken. But I do love the way that this movie sort of like she's picking a very specific type of teenager. And I think that's part of what makes this movie work. It's a not like most people did not talk like share in Dion before this movie came out. This is she's owning it on like a very small percentage of the teenage population. But within that there are so many references that cross multiple generations, multiple timelines, and it really shows that these these characters, even though they are very much in their own insular worlds and maybe they don't fully understand everything that does not directly apply to them, they do still have some media literacy and like understanding of what like things that came before them and how they play into who they are now. One of my other favorite lines is like searching for a boy in high school is as useless as searching for meaning in a poly Shore movie. Look that does it date that movie? Yes, someone watching Clueless today who's maybe fifteen or sixteen probably has a new idea who Polyshore is. Right, But you can understand just by the way that that line is written. It's it's kind of it's sort of like Shakespeare. It's like when you say it in a certain way, when you frame it a certain way, you're going to understand it, regardless of the time or how old you are. And I think that's what's so great about this movie is that all of these characters feel real, and all these characters they are saying lines, and they are saying things that feel as though they understand what they're saying. Yes, and this movie is responsible for bringing an entire lexicon into the culture. And I think that's another reason why Amy Heckling was able to get away with it, right, is that, yes, she was pulling from some parts of teenage culture, but really she was also bringing it to the rest of us who did not grow up in the Valley or in Beverly Hills or wherever. Yes, it just it just feels both like culturally specific but also culturally enlarging, if that makes sense.

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Speaker 2: It makes total sense. Yeah, Yeah, we couldn't be We couldn't be more in sync. It's one of those perfect examples where the more specific it is, the more universal it feels. Because of how specific it is, because of how to its period it feels the more time specific, actually the more timeless. I think it does feel what it gets right about the high school experience and in some cases to your point, I had this line in my notes here as well, Aisha. What it says specifically maybe about the female high school experience, right, but also more broadly about the high school experience across generations. Even if it's dated, it's actually okay. So for example, everybody in this movie is distracted by what they're wireless phones, and we can laugh at it. We can laugh at the fact that they're on these monstrosities right where we're all now carrying around these computers right on our smartphones and they're so much more powerful, and it's kind of hilarious. But it's the same. It's really no different. We're all just walking around distracted by electronic devices. So the technology changes, but the distraction part of it hasn't really changed. The technology of you know, in the setup I referenced the net coming out around the same time or whatever. Yeah, and we laugh at that movie now for how dated that technology looks. How dated is the technology of share waking up that first day and picking out or outfit, just the the the archaic nature of the of that technology. But what do we have now? We have apps. We have apps where I am sure that there are young women and perhaps young men are who are waking up and choosing their outfit just by looking at themselves and seeing how they look in that outfit on that phone, or they are trying on those outfits and they are sending pictures via Snapchat or whatever to their friends and getting feedback, or they're putting it out to their followers and getting feedback in real time and deciding what they're going to wear. So again, the technology has changed, how they're using it's change, but overall the purpose of it and the need for it hasn't really changed at all. And even the part too that reminded me, you know what I wrote in my notes was, you know, every generation kind of gets the breakfast club it deserves. And we have the scene here where they're showing tie around and they're saying, okay, you know, that's where the load ees are and they're showing whereas are the Persian mafia. So that's more different than you know, all the different clicks that are on display on detention in the breakfast club. And we've seen different versions and vary over the years, right ingols has to do so the names change, but they don't. The groups really don't change. The divisions, the types of divisions, the fact that there are divisions, those don't change. Those are universal to the high school experience. So that's what Heckerline gets right. She gets the specifics right, she gets the details right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. One thing I always am struck by, especially the older I get whenever I return to this movie is, you know, for all of the great things about it. And I don't think this is necessarily a fault of the movie per se, but it is noticeable even more every time I watch it, of how just ingrained this idea of diet culture is in the film, and it's it's so true to the time of the nineties, but it's also very true of now where you know, there's so many scenes where Cher and Dionne are talking about their weight, a lot of like dieting and eating disorder talk. But at the same time, like, I'm glad it exists because it does make it feel like a time capsule. You know, I think today if it were made, this movie were made, you know, Amy Heckeling would probably be called out for not being more critical of that kind of culture, but again, that wasn't that wasn't where we were at then. Like then was absolutely in a way that it is sadly coming back today now, but especially back then, I just remember, like I'm obsessed with, you know, not eating or starving yourselves, and that was what even as a seven year old kid, like, those were the sort of images I was used to seeing and it was just really interesting to see. That's like another thing for me that that both puts it in that time period but also just feels kind of evergreen and relatable. Sadly, but do you have that And then of course you have Christian, who is so obviously gay to anyone over the age of I don't know, fifteen, maybe you would you would expect that quote you already mentioned about Samy Davish, like, I love that Christian who's played by Justin Walker. He dresses like Geen Kelly, talks like Sammy Davis Junior, but yet like for a movie in the nineteen nineties, in the mid nineteen nineties, he's treated like like his sexuality is not a joke at least in the sense it's a joke because Shares seems to be the only one who doesn't see exactly but like he is like his like when she finds out she doesn't, she's not mean to him. In fact, we see the scene where he saves Tie from those those boys at the mall, like he's seen as like both like very flamboyant and feminine, but also able to stand up for himself and for other people. And I think Christian just feels like such a nice progressive for that time character that especially in an age of like you know, Ace Fincher and all these like you know, constant homophobia in movies when you go back and watch them from that era, in transphobia, it's nice to see that in a movie like this. It doesn't taint it in a way.

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Speaker 4: Dee, I almost have sex with him?

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Speaker 1: You almost had sex with whom Christian? What yo?

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Speaker 4: Look?

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Speaker 1: Are you blind to something?

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Speaker 3: You make?

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Speaker 1: Christian is a cake boy?

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Speaker 5: What he's a disco dance and Oscar wail reading straws tin can holding friend of Dorothy know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 7: No way, he's kay. Yes, even he does like to shop shift and the boy can dress.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, I'm totally bugging.

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Speaker 2: Really, more than anything, that character serves the fact that for all of her self assuredness and confidence, it shows how clueless or reinforces how clueless really that that share character is. I wanted to go back to the poly shoreline for a second, because that was something that really resonated with me this time. That back when I saw this movie as a college boy for the first time did not did not click with me. I think about now how truly clueless I was in high school, and how it's just accepted science biological fact the girls mature faster than boys. And I'm thinking about how anybody who regularly listens to this show will remember the wisdom of Ethan Hawk in my interview with him, where he was talking about how fathers shouldn't be over protective of their daughters. They need to let them make mistakes when they're young and break hearts and get their hearts broken. And that's great, But I also don't know how many of us open minded dads like the idea of our high school daughters necessarily dating college guys. But man, when you hear a line like that and you think about it, you really think about it. I wonder how many high school girls, and maybe, Ayisha, you can tell me your own perspective, I wonder how many high school girls felt, not just as a joke, as a witty line, actually felt the same way shared it that being surrounded by these moronic boys every day in high school really felt like such a futile way to live, you know that, like, what are we doing here? This is such a hollow experience every day. I have never thought of it before until this, until this revisit.

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Speaker 1: Oh yes, it resonates so well. I definitely by the time you're you know, junior year, maybe senior year, that's when you're like, okay, I've I've explored the territory now and I want to see what, Like, there's got to be something better than this. And that was true for me both in high school and in college. By the time I was you know, I was like, okay, this I need to the pool needs to be expanded, we need to go into the deeper end. And but at the same time, yes, girls tend to mature or at least half too mature, faster than boys for many reasons outside of our control in some ways, but I think what's so great about this movie is the fact that you know, Chaer thinks she's ready for you know, someone older, and I guess she does end up with Josh at the end, which you know, still very weird plotline but whatever.

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Speaker 2: It is very.

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Speaker 1: But but like she she's not as emotionally mature I think as she thinks she is. She's definitely smarter than most people want to give her credit for, and I love that about her. She is, you know, the she is the I feel weird calling her a bimboo because she's a high school but like she she is that sort of like dumb blonde archetype that is often for for a good reason, often subverted go you know, Maril Monroe gentlemen for for blondes like you can go on and on and on of characters where everyone assumes that they're just a sexpot or they're just you know, dumb and yeah, you don't share. She's a virgin who can't drive, so hot jokes on them.

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Speaker 2: Right right. I think some some good writing by Heckerline that threads that needle really nicely. I was thinking about the bit where she is in the back seat with Josh and Josh's girlfriend, Yes, and she starts to get really really defined because she argues with the girlfriend about who says that line in Hamlet. It's just like.

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Speaker 7: Hamlet said, to thine own self be true.

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Speaker 1: No, Hamlet didn't say that.

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Speaker 2: I think that I remember Hamlet accurately. Well, I remember mel Gibson accurately. They didn't say that that.

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Speaker 6: Polonius guy did.

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Speaker 2: She knows that, not because she's really some savant who is secretly devouring Shakespeare on the side and just acts like she's not into Shakespeare or something like that. No, she really is smart. She really does have a good vocabulary. She really does retain a lot of information. She's not devouring Shakespeare, but she does go to mel Gibson movies, and because she's smart, it retains information and goes to mel Gibson movies. She remembers who says what line in that movie? And then mel Gibson doesn't say that line. So it's believable that she remember that. But it's also like it's character building. We start to pick up on the fact that, or we certainly start to pick up on it following this that it makes sense that she likes Josh and so she doesn't like this girlfriend and so that that defiance is going to come out a little bit, and she's gonna she's going to put it back in the girlfriend's face right in that moment if she can. So I like that we get a little bit of character building there in that moment, but we also understand in a believable way, we see how smart she really is.

00:33:32
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's not just that scene. Like her liking Josh to some extent makes sense. He's you know, he's the he's wants to study environmental law and he wants to he's reading Nietzsche at the pool. He's the intellectual. He thinks he's gonna make the world a better place and cheer for. As self involved as she is, Like her whole thing is that she's trying to be like make the world a better place as well. When I even think about that opening the first scene in class, the mister Hall's class where she's like debate club and she's arguing about immigration and like we should we should open our border. You know, it's and she is she's arguing the pro side, and she argues it quite well. It's you know, it's in her way, it's in her you know, very teenage Beverly Hill's girly way, but she she does it in a way that is just like, oh yeah, this is again another way this movie feels quite relevant because you can totally see someone arguing the same thing in their high school class today and it hitting a little different. But yeah, it's it's not just one or two scenes. It is threaded very well throughout of Share. It's not like it comes out of nowhere. And I think that's that's that's why Share endoors.

00:34:47
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, let's talk about another reason why I think Share indoors, and I want to get your take on it, and that's Silverstone's performance. Yes, it's it's hard or this is a little bit unfair because producer Sam Sam van Holgren isn't here to defend himself, I suppose, But I'm gonna quote something he said on Letterboxed. And you are familiar with Sam. Sam is a lovely man who generally he wants to look for the good in everything, and he is despite this prolonged preamble here, I am saying, truthfully, he definitely wants to be generous. With this quote on Letterboxed in his review of Clueless, but I think we could hear it and sense that it maybe comes off as a little bit of a backhanded compliment. He says this about Silverstone, while never being particularly great, is never less than perfect, even twenty plus years later, There's no one else you'd want in that role. Now, I think I read that before I rewatched the movie, so I did have it kind of bouncing around in my head before the rewatched, and I was thinking the first time I read it, I thought, Okay, I get what he's saying. I think, and and I know it's a compliment. He's saying she's never less than perfect.

00:36:09
Speaker 1: Hmm.

00:36:10
Speaker 2: But then watching it, I'm like, well, wait, why why is she never particularly great? I think she's just particularly great. I actually think she's really great, And I've got three or four scenes where I can point to them and say that's just legitimately great acting. Now, after this movie, I don't know that there's a lot of people that would say, Okay, she went on to maybe live up to the promise of this movie, or she didn't have the opportunities to live up to the promise of this movie. But I think in this performance, in this role, I'm gonna go ahead and say she's not only perfect, as share She's great.

00:36:48
Speaker 1: Sam's not here, I think sometimes and I'm absolutely I've done this too, and I as a critic, I have definitely been there where sometimes someone is so good at what they do that you can't you don't see the craft. You don't see that it's not just innate talent, it's not just perfect casting, it's not just how you look it is. It takes the seams. You can't see the seams, and so you think that they're not there. And I think there are all different types of performances that work. And I think this works because she seems believable a she is close to the age that she's supposed to be in this movie. That absolutely helps. And so I think having that proximity to still being youthful is part of it. But you can't so much of this movie, especially with voiceover narration, and voiceover narration can be so hard to get right because if you do it, if you go too heavy onto it, or if you put too much you know, emphasis on, it might feel just a little too cute toy or a little too like, look at me, I'm narrating hey. And then if you don't give any oop to it, then you're just gonna feel it's just gonna deaden the movie. And I think she finds so many great ways to deliver lines to and to talk as though she's talking to us, as she's talking to her friends in a way like she doesn't switch up the way she talks between how she actually talks with people like Dion and Ti and how she talks to us. And that takes talent, that takes effort, it takes work, and it takes understanding who this character is. And I think that Alicia Silverstone, she just does such a good job of inhabiting all of that that it can be hard to see that it also takes more than just being a pretty face or being you know, delivering the lines. That's how I feel about it.

00:38:58
Speaker 4: Here's where Dion this she's my friend because we both know what it's like to have people be.

00:39:02
Speaker 2: Jealous of us.

00:39:05
Speaker 4: Growth friend, and I must give her snaps for her courageous fashion efforts. Hey, San Diane and I were both named after great singers of the past who now do infomercials.

00:39:17
Speaker 2: I agree with you. I think that that's very well argued. The voiceover element is a really great point. How deathly she handles that how conversational it seems, which is something you don't necessarily think about that often with voiceovers. But I think it's a really crucial element here the language too, the way she handles the language and makes the Austin element of that how smooth that is, how natural and conversational that is as well. And that scene that we were referencing earlier, I think is a really important one when Ty delivers that great insult and she says that was way harsh. We may laugh at it, but the just heartbroken, just absolute devastation that Silverstone reveals in that moment. It could be a reaction where we kind of laugh at chair, because if you really think about it, her friend just told her you're a virgin who can't drive. It's not In some ways, it shouldn't actually be that soul crushing, right, but we understand that for this character, that's that's going to a place that feels like a friend should never go.

00:40:31
Speaker 1: So when when you're a teenager, everything any it's one of the smallest insult or dig will crush your soul. And the reason she says you can't drive is because she literally just failed her driving tests. Yes, so it's still fresh.

00:40:48
Speaker 2: It's all those things. It's so raw, and it's just the lowest of low blows at that moment, and you don't expect your friend to go there, and she goes there, and she reacts in such a hurt way that we don't We may be laughing a little bit at Tie, but we're not laughing at all at at the way Silverstone reacts, We're not laughing at Share at all. And I think the way she responds there is really great. But then we've also got just the comedic chops, the physical comedy. The way she falls off the bed with Christian right when she's kind of trying to seduce him is really hilarious. At that whole series of scenes when she's the montage where she's trying to seduce him in class as well, that I think is really great. Drop on the pencil and doing all of that stuff. And I just think the way Silverstone handles the balance of the baby doll shtick with the sex kit and routine. You know, she's just balancing throughout the whole film, either being smarter and more in control than she maybe really is, but also sometimes underplaying or you know, she's she's more vulnerable than she really wants to believe that she is, and she lets all of those layers to that character come out. That scene between her and Paul Rudd on the stairs is a really lovely, romantic, intimate scene between those two characters as well. You know what another great Alicia's Silverstone moment is is just watching the range of emotions that she goes through when the camera's just on her, when she's listening to Tie talk about Josh Oh and how she's starting to have feelings for Josh. Another great acting moment from Silverstone. So I think she's perfect. I think she's great in this film. Definitely can't imagine anyone else in this part, which it sounds like Sam would certainly agree with that part.

00:42:47
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, And I mean really, the whole cast is just so fantastic. I love Stacy Dash her actual real life politics aside. This is a It's such a great perform and it's interesting because you know, this is a black friend character and these these were very prevalent in the nineties, and oftentimes they were not They didn't have the same sort of heft to them as I think Dion. And also, you know, the Donald Faison character. Have they they have a full relationship? Is it a is a very h messy, chaotic relationship. Absolutely, But but I also just really love that dynamic and the fact that Dion doesn't feel like just a side character. She feels like she is integral to the plot. She's integral to the Shares life. And I'm sorry, but the driving in La scene where like.

00:43:49
Speaker 2: I was just going to bring it up, I've been there, and without bringing it up, I've been.

00:43:52
Speaker 1: There driving like driving in La is very stressful. I can always imagine how stressful it is when you don't know how to drive.

00:43:59
Speaker 2: It's just it is, you know, But that scene, watching it again is even if it wasn't real and I don't know, I mean, i've been in La traffic. I don't know that I've ever driven in La. But even if you just know the reputation of being on those freeways, right, you get the joke. But the way the joke builds, the Gramma flipping the bird, the bikers like the Hell's Angels pulling up behind them, Semi's honking like it's If you don't watch that scene and don't think it's hilarious, I feel for you. Right, and yeah, how about a subtle moment like this? I just I was going to ask you if there are any other moments that you just wanted to mention that are legitimately hilarious moments. And I had two that I wanted to make sure we mentioned. One was the freeway and you know, credit, maybe you can help me because I'm blanking on the actor's name. It's Jeremy Is Jeremy something? Who is el en oh Elton?

00:45:02
Speaker 1: Yes, Yes, it's Jeremy Sisto.

00:45:05
Speaker 2: Thank you, yes, yeah. And this is a recurring bit, but the first time it happens, and I don't know if it's Share or someone else, but you know the maybe it's the teacher who is just delivered like an impassioned speech or plea and says any comments and the hand goes up right away. My foot hurts. Can I go to the nurse? Just perfect? Just couldn't care less, couldn't be more tuned out? My foot hurts? Can I go to the nurse? The way he delivers that I thought was comedic? Gold. Do you have any others that you want to single out?

00:45:38
Speaker 1: Oh man, there's so many. I love the part where a share first of all Wala Sean as mister Hall perfect. But I love when she gets a pass on being charty because she tells him she was riding the Crimson Wave.

00:45:55
Speaker 2: Is it surfing surfing the Crimson Wave?

00:45:59
Speaker 1: Oh, surfing fing the Crimson Yes.

00:46:01
Speaker 2: Even better?

00:46:01
Speaker 1: You know what, Like I I bet I have actually done that. I did that in high school to get out of swimming in Pe because I was like, why are we swimming? I don't my hair? I have to know. So I got out of a lot because I had a male teacher and he was just like, oh I don't want to hear this. It's fine, you don't have.

00:46:18
Speaker 2: To right right.

00:46:20
Speaker 1: So I love that moment. I also, I mean rolling with the Homies.

00:46:25
Speaker 2: Rolling with the Homies, it's.

00:46:27
Speaker 1: A it's a classic. It's You've got Tolio and You've got You've got uh tie singing Rolling with the Homies. It's great, it's classic.

00:46:35
Speaker 2: The other, the other iconic one is he monally challenge challenged.

00:46:40
Speaker 1: Yes, the peace term.

00:46:43
Speaker 2: You know how picky I am about my shoes, She says, it's it's so so good. So that's clueless, which is currently streaming on Paramount Plus and is available on vo D We recommend that you revisited or see it for the first time if you have somehow never had the plusure amber.

00:47:05
Speaker 1: My plastic surgeon doesn't want me doing any activity where balls fly at my nose. There goes your social life.

00:47:13
Speaker 7: I'm gonna be a super model.

00:47:16
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00:48:43
Speaker 6: Hi, this is quiz Master Thomas Todd coming to you from New York City. Just wanted to wish a happy twentieth birthday to my favorite podcast, Film Spotting. Congratulations to Adam, Sam and Josh on twenty years film content in the can Film Spotting changed my life When in the deepest darkest parts of twenty twenty I got an email from Adam Kempanard that said, trivia, huh, it'll never work call me. Over the last five years, we've hosted nearly thirty Trivia Spottings and been able to meet and engage with film fans from all over the world and embarrass Adam on Zoom. What else could a guy ask for? So congratulations to Film Spotting. Thank you for all the friendships that I formed in real life and online due to your podcast. Thank you for giving me all the wonderful films that I've seen over the last twenty years. I really cherish them and treasure of them, and I hope we get another twenty years of Film Spotting going forward. See you all at the fest.

00:49:44
Speaker 8: Hey, film Spotting, Happy twentieth. This is Ross Bratton from New York City and I've been listening to the show, I believe since twenty thirteen. I was trying to peg it down myself. Film Spotting kind of changed my life once Trivia Spotting came into the picture.

00:50:02
Speaker 9: It really got a chance for me to actually interact with Josh and Sam and Adam for the first time. It's set by person, but it also introduced me to so many different writers and podcasters and thinkers on film that I still follow today. And most importantly, it introduced me to some of the best friends that I currently have in my life. Taking the community aspect that I felt listening to Josh and Adam on the podcast, having these film discussions and bringing it to such a larger world and so many other people that it's absolutely my life would not be the same without it. So happy twentieth, Happy one thousand episodes, Looking forward seeing everyone in Chicago.

00:50:43
Speaker 2: Always a pleasure to hear from Thomas and Ross, part of the Trivia Spotting film spotting Mafia as I refer to them in New York City. Actually, just a couple of weeks ago when I was in New York, had a chance to hang out with Thomas and Ross and other members of the Mafia, all people who did meet via Trivia Spotting. I issue you participated in that as well, back during COVID, which was so much fun.

00:51:07
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, Thomas and Ross, longtime social media friends. It's yeah, it's still great. Your show has really brought so many people together and it makes my heart heart melt.

00:51:23
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so good. And I like the way Ross framed it too. Where you have this community that's this online or kind of virtual community, you hear the names and you have relationships, those parasocial relationships, and then all of a sudden, trivia spotting happens and you realize that you live in the same city as some of these folks, and all of a sudden, you're hanging out with them regularly, and they're your actual best friends. And it's really cool to see that this group is hanging out all the time. So thank you to Thomas and Ross.

00:51:54
Speaker 5: At this moment, rescue workers are laboring to recover and identify the remains of Jah Korda, international businessman maverick in the fields of armaments and aviation, among the richest men in Europe. This was Korda's sixth recorded airplane.

00:52:12
Speaker 2: Crash that can only be from Wes Anderson's latest The Phoenician Scheme, which expands to more theaters this weekend. Josh and I will have a review of it next week. I will finally get to see it after it opens this weekend. Aisha, what about you? Have you seen it? Do you have plans to talk about it on Pop Culture Happy Hour?

00:52:31
Speaker 1: Pop Culture Happy Hour, We'll be doing an episode on it. It may or may not have dropped by the time this episode drops, but I will not be on it because I am not a Wes Anderson fan.

00:52:43
Speaker 2: Really, so you decided to abstain?

00:52:45
Speaker 1: Well, yes, generally speaking. Now, I will say I am the type of person who has seen most of his movies and I keep up with them, but I do it mostly because I feel an obligation too, not because I actuallyually enjoy them. Okay, He's just not for me. He's just not for me.

00:53:06
Speaker 2: I get it. Has there been any Wes Anderson film you've really enjoyed?

00:53:11
Speaker 1: I remember liking Grand Budapest Hotel, and I also liked Moonrise Kingdom a little bit, but I have not revisited any of them. Okay, so yeah, he's just like for me, he's such an a qua. I feel like he's an acquired taste, and of the Anderson's I'm always gonna pick pet over.

00:53:32
Speaker 8: Was.

00:53:33
Speaker 1: That's that is where I stand. M.

00:53:35
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's fair enough. Yeah, I will tune in. I'll see what your fellow co hosts had to say about the Phoenician scheme. Also next week on Film Spotting, we will wrap up officially our Andre Tarkovsky Marathon with some awards our favorite scenes, performances and films from the five film Marathon. As far as a name for the awards, I know we said this at the end of our last discussion. I can't remember if we settled on the Birches or something else. No, I think we said the Holy Fools, so that might be what we're going with. We'll have it all settled by the time we record that episode. We'll also have results from the current Film Spotting poll asking you to choose one and only one Mission Impossible movie? What is your favorite, Aisha, I will tell you which one is currently in the lead in the bowl? Okay, what about the Mission Impossible franchise? Is that something you feel the same about as you feel about Wes Anderson? Or are you a fan? No, do you have a favorite?

00:54:36
Speaker 1: I am a fan, but I it's it's you're gonna tell me the which one is in the lead, and I'm going to be like, which one is that?

00:54:46
Speaker 2: Exactly? No, it's the same thing. It's like, why could they put numbers anymore? Can we just have two, three, and four?

00:54:51
Speaker 1: Yeah?

00:54:51
Speaker 2: If you tell me which one is the stunt?

00:54:53
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yes exactly. Yeah.

00:54:56
Speaker 2: You can tell me the stunt and I'll tell you the name.

00:54:59
Speaker 1: Oh true, I mean I really like the one was it? Uh oh shoot which hunky white.

00:55:08
Speaker 2: Guy Henry Cavill.

00:55:09
Speaker 1: Yes, the Henry cavi one where they're in the fighting in the bathroom.

00:55:12
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's the that's the one in the lead. And that's also the one I picked. Oh, which one is my favorite? That's Fallout, which is number six.

00:55:20
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, that was That was very fun.

00:55:22
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's that's part of it. That that has not only that great scene in the bathroom, that fight in the bathroom's fantastic. Yeah, it also has the Halo jump is the set piece. And while there are other really good Rebecca Ferguson Mission Impossible movies, that is also one that has Rebecca Ferguson doing Rebecca Ferguson things. So yeah, yeah, Fallout's my favorite.

00:55:44
Speaker 1: That's great. Okay, Yeah, I'm happy that's in the lead.

00:55:46
Speaker 2: Good good vote in that bowl and leave a comment at film spotting dot Net. This week, on our sister podcast, The Next Picture Show, looking at Cinema's Present via It's Past, it's part two of their Pain Pals pairing. They're pairing Friendship with Paul Rudd and Tim Robinson and PTA's the Master. New episodes of the next picture show. Yeah, drop every Tuesday wherever you get your podcasts. It's time now for Massacre Theater, where we perform a scene and you get a chance to win a film spotting prize. Last time, Josh and I massacred this scene.

00:56:23
Speaker 1: Oh but you have that look, Dawn.

00:56:25
Speaker 3: I always can tell now you haven't been doing anything foolish. Well, I do hope you've forgotten all about that silly little plan of yours, which one about blowing up.

00:56:39
Speaker 2: The fight house.

00:56:40
Speaker 3: Oh, I was only fooling. Besides, what would the president say? You're a naughty boy, Bruno when you can always make me laugh. Don't get shaved before your father gets home.

00:57:03
Speaker 2: That was Marion Lorne and Robert Walker in nineteen fifty one Strangers on a Train, written by Whitfield Cook, Chenzie Ormond and Raymond Chandler, based on the novella by Patricia Highsmith. Directed by mister Alfred Hitchcock. The Massacre was part of a show devoted to a couple of films in Richard Linklater's trilogy Before Sunrise and Before Sunset. We also reviewed nineteen eighty three's Nostalgia, the final film in our Tarkowski marathon. So why that scene from Strangers on a Train. Well, it's probably pretty obvious. Alex Moffatt and Melbourne, Australia got it, connecting to Jesse and Selene being strangers on a train before they're romance. But Aisha, if you want to take this one. Dennis Bartel in San Diego decided to go a little deeper with the connections.

00:57:52
Speaker 1: Yes, I shall, as luck would have it. I just rewatched this movies days before listening to the podcast, so I got it right away. Connections, of course, the main connection is the chance train encounter. The film shares with the Before trilogy. Also, I never saw nostalgia, but you said there are motherhood themes, and you chose a mother son scene. That scene ends in the review of an abstract grotesque painting, with the punchline that the mother was trying to paint Saint Francis, so perhaps she's a holy fool. Finally, Strangers is about a tennis player, and you float the idea of a potential Josh O'Connor marathon. Interesting, I did not know that O'Connor, of course, recently played a tennis player in Challengers. Did you did you get that last connection with Josh O'Connor is that well planned.

00:58:39
Speaker 2: It did come up in some listener feedback. There was a suggestion of some Josh O'Connor viewing in our future, which Josh and I, Josh Larsai and I are on board with. I love it when listeners like Dennis put in all this heavy lifting. But you know, the connection really was just people on a train. We keep it simple. We usually keep it simple here on film spotting. And speaking of simple, you know, Sam wasn't digging too deep into his list of options for massacre theater. We did Strangers on a Train exactly one year ago and also at some point in the past. This is the third time we've done strangers on the train, at least not the same scene, you know. I mean, I guess three times over twenty years isn't too bad, right, But twice in one year?

00:59:25
Speaker 1: Maybe you need to do a MASCAR theater pantheon for.

00:59:29
Speaker 2: We should they just put some titles away?

00:59:31
Speaker 1: Sure?

00:59:32
Speaker 2: Despite that, Despite that, this was one of the and I knew it would be because it was a tough scene. This was one of the fewest or lowest entered massacre theaters of all time. Let's just say, Alex, Dennis and our ultimate winner had very high chances winning. Sorry, Alex and Dennis, we do have a winner. I'm going to reach into the very open and flowing film Spotting half and pick out the winner of the winner is Taylor Sear in Birmingham, Alabama. Congratulations Taylor, email feedback at film spotting dot net. We're going to set you up with your very own film Spotting t shirt or film Spotting tote bag, or if you're not already a family member, we'll set you up with a trial membership to the Film Spotting Family.

01:00:21
Speaker 3: What happened to the Canola line?

01:00:23
Speaker 1: You're supposed to say? Forget about it, sand Chez.

01:00:25
Speaker 2: The old man likes HISOK.

01:00:27
Speaker 9: I made a mistake, all right, didn't make any difference anyway.

01:00:29
Speaker 1: Hey, I'm letting it go.

01:00:31
Speaker 2: But don't say it doesn't matter. Every line matters. We move on to this week's edition of Massacre Theater. As usual, there is a tie in. It should be a fairly clear tie in to this week's show, though the content of the scene itself isn't necessarily going to give that away. Now, Aisha, I know that you've done some dancing in your life, and I also know that you were a theater major. How is your accent work?

01:01:00
Speaker 1: My accent work was never great. It was never my strong point. So this should be fun.

01:01:06
Speaker 2: It will be. And despite that, you've stepped up to the plate. You've decided to take the leading role in this scene.

01:01:13
Speaker 1: Look, I'm a drama queen at heart, so I love it. We're gonna give us a whirl.

01:01:20
Speaker 2: We are okay, Hey, we don't call it Masacar theater for nothing. Okay, yes, I am going to give you the action. Are you ready?

01:01:29
Speaker 1: I am ready?

01:01:30
Speaker 2: And action.

01:01:33
Speaker 1: I realized that when I met you at the Turkey curry buffet that I was unforgivably rude and wearing a reindeer jumper that my mother had given me the day before. But the thing is, what I'm trying to say, very inarticulately, is that, in fact, despite appearances, I like you very very much.

01:01:57
Speaker 2: Apart from the smoking and the drinking and the mother and the verbal diarrhea.

01:02:02
Speaker 1: No, I like you very much just as you are.

01:02:08
Speaker 2: And and see, well done. I think you undersoldier accent work. Oh that was pretty good.

01:02:17
Speaker 1: Let's ask people from the country that I just or the that I just tried.

01:02:21
Speaker 2: To let well, we might not because they may not know what country that was supposed to be fair. But I don't know. Maybe Turkey Curry buffet gave it away. We'll have to see, I don't I don't know if you know what film we just massacred. Email the movie's title and your name and location to feedback at filmspotting dot net. The deadline is Monday, June fifteenth. We'll select the winner randomly from all the correct entries and announce it in a couple of weeks. You mean not good like one out of one hundred.

01:03:00
Speaker 1: I'd say more like one out of a million.

01:03:05
Speaker 8: So you're telling me there's a chance.

01:03:11
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, here we go top five time, tying in with the movie Clueless and all the great quotes, all the great lines and phrases. We are sharing our top five movie quotes in our lexicons. So these are movie lines, movie phrases that maybe we continue to say to this day. And I will say I kind of went with phrases that I still often use, but it didn't have to be that. They could also be phrases that at various points in our lives we have definitely said they are ingrained in our brains. And I don't know about u Ayisha, but for me, it was kind of like I have a compulsion to use when I hear a certain trigger, I just have to say this line. Yeah, that's where I went.

01:03:57
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's mostly where I went. Although I will say the first one that we will get to is one that was more I've never actually I don't think I've ever actually used it in real life. This is okay, this is the generational divide here is that there's a time when you might have been, you know, in middle school or high school, and you left up an AOL away message on AOL instant messenger, and oftentimes we would have I would use movie quotes as sure my away message. So course, yeah, yeah, so that's where I went. But for the most part, they are things that I say in real life or use while writing, even reference and while writing so.

01:04:37
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, yeah, so o our lead in there we played dumb and dumber. That feels to me like one. Regardless of how many times any of us have seen dumb and dumber, maybe you've never even seen it, or how you feel about it, that feels like one that's just in the zeitgeist. So you're telling me there's a chance if someone says to you something that feels like the odds are stacked against you, this is just not gonna happen. It's super unlikely. So you're telling me there's a chance. It just it just seems to be one that we all use. Another one I thought of. That's like that where I wonder if some people say it and they don't even they don't even know what movie it's from, but they probably know they're doing a McConaughey is all right, all right, all right, oh yes, you know, yeah, absolutely not gonna be on my list. These are gonna be very personal. These are going to be very idiosyncratic. I think people are gonna hear my list and be like if they didn't know it before, Adam's a Weirdo's that's where we're That's where we're gonna come out. After they hear my choices. You get to you get to start us off. Ayisha, what's your number five?

01:05:43
Speaker 1: Okay? So my number five is the oldest quote on here, is it? Yes, it is the oldest quote. It's from before I was born. And this is the one that I was referencing where I left it up as my AOL away message many times, and it is from Cassidy and the Sundance Kid, boy I Got vision, and the rest of the world wears bifocals.

01:06:07
Speaker 3: You just keep thinking, but that's what you're good at.

01:06:11
Speaker 8: Boy I Got vision.

01:06:12
Speaker 2: In the rest of the World wears bifocals.

01:06:14
Speaker 1: Butch played by Paul Newman, He's the leader of the Hole in the Wall gang. And then you've got sun Dance Robert Redford his like right hand and he's gunslinger, and Butch is just this is This is one of the movies that when I was twelve or thirteen and really getting into classic movies, this is one of the like the movies that made me love Paul Newman. I thought he was so hot. I also just loved his swagger and his cockiness and just the way that he he doesn't have too many talents. I think the point is, like Sundance is the one who's carrying a lot of the weight. He's the one who is, you know, the great. He can shoot, and he can he can he can do physical things, and and Butch is kind of like the thinker. And I love that movie. In the movie where he's like sentence's just like yeah, you just keep thinking that's what you're good at, you know, which is like I got vision the rest of the world, but where's my vocals? And when you think about being, you know, a twelve thirteen year old kid and wanting to feel as though you know everything, or wanting to put on this air of being you know, great and smart and knowing things that no one else knows even though you're you're freaking twelve years old or thirteen years old, Like that was the perfect quote wanted. I wanted it to feel I wanted to exude confidence that I definitely did not actually have. And I just I love that line. It just feels great.

01:07:42
Speaker 2: It's great. It is great. That movie. That entire screenplay from William Goldman, of course, is just filled with gold Yeah.

01:07:49
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, it's a very quotable movie.

01:07:52
Speaker 2: Who are these guys? Great? Great choice? So I said, people are going to hear my picks and think Adam's a weirdo. I'll tell you who's an even bigger weirdo. This is a perfect when the cats away the Mice will play list. One time when I was off, infamously, Josh had a guest host and did top five movie manimals.

01:08:17
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I still are not even.

01:08:18
Speaker 2: Sure what that list was about. We're doing movie quotes because I have never heard Josh Larson quote a movie in the entire time we've known each other, and in fact, in talking to him about it, h he's never quoted a movie and saying. One of the ways and one of the reasons Sam and I bonded and continue to bond to this day is because of our shared love of movie quotes and the fact that we usually speak to each other in movie quotes. My friends that I'm still friends with from grade school, and I have many of them that I still see and talk to regularly from grade school and high school, we still speak in movie quotes. Other I can't imagine a world where I have friends that I don't constantly talk to in movie quote. So it's just a hard thing for me to wrap my brain around. So this would be a top five that I would never get to do otherwise. So I'm very glad that you're here, happy to do it. It'll be It'll be fun. Now another thing maybe I'm getting away with because Josh is not here to call me out on it a little disclaimer. There are two movies on my list that are in the Film Spotting Pantheon that technically shouldn't be eligible. Yeah, I'm breaking the rules.

01:09:33
Speaker 1: You I'll allow it. I'll allow it.

01:09:35
Speaker 2: I'm not thank you. I just I just think we're getting so specific when you're getting down to individual movie lines. Yes, like, just to do this list justice, these these lines had to be eligible. Okay, so my number five is not from a Pantheon movie, though it probably could be for me, and I mentioned this earlier. Somehow, again not by design at all. Somehow three movies from the same year in the nineteen nineties ended up on my list. And maybe it's not a total shock because this year, the year in question was nineteen ninety two. I was in high school. It's a year I was really starting to get into movies. There's a fourth movie that's also from the nineties. I had to go I had to have at least one nineteen eighties choice in here, and if I was going to pick one movie from the eighties, I felt like it had to be the first movie that I really remember quoting incessantly with my friends, and that movie was The Breakfast Club.

01:10:39
Speaker 1: I knew it. I was waiting.

01:10:42
Speaker 2: While this particular line from jud Nelson's John Bender may not even be in the top thirty funniest moments in the movie, it's the line that has always stuck with me for daily life application because of its flexibility and because of Nelson's great delivery. This is early in the movie. They're just all arriving. They've sat down. Principal Vernon has given them the speech about how they have to write the essay or whatever, and Bender has taken the pin out of the library door, so Vernon can't spy on them, as he says. And he comes in and he's trying to prop the door open because of course he can't find the pin and he's having tons of trouble. He makes the jock Emilio Estevez Andrew come help him. And there are eighties kids out there right now listening who know exactly what words are coming next.

01:11:42
Speaker 5: Hey, how come Andrew gets to get up?

01:11:44
Speaker 2: As if he gets up, we'll all get up. It'll be anarchy. So you might think that's very specific, Adam, how often are you referencing a guy named Andrew getting up? But that's the thing, Ayisha, you can just substitute in whatever name and whatever action you like, Hey, how come Ayisha gets to go to the party. If she gets to go to the party, we all get to go to the party. It'll be anarchy. Yes, literally, anytime you feel like you're being treated unfairly, somebody's getting to do something you think you should get to do, or they get something you think you should get to. John Hughes and John Bender are there for you. They've been there for me since nineteen eighty five.

01:12:30
Speaker 1: That's very relatable, and we've all I feel like anyone who grew up as a kid has has said some version of that line.

01:12:39
Speaker 2: Yes, hey wait, how come he gets to do that? This is just this is just me channeling that via John Bender.

01:12:46
Speaker 1: And now I'm like, hey, why don't they get to have to pay taxes? I have to pay taxes? What are we doing here?

01:12:52
Speaker 4: Right?

01:12:53
Speaker 2: So that's my number five?

01:12:56
Speaker 1: That's great, great, well for my number four. I had a hard time trying to remember when I've used this, but I have used it multiple times. Just not again, this is not in real life. On usually in social media. I do a lot of quoting on social media, So I'm giving myself a past here it's still feel. It is my lexicon. And this is a moment from one of my favorite, absolute, hands down favorite movies of all time, when Harry met Sally. There are so many quotes, some of which would make it into my Honorable Mentions. And you know, I'm sure this is probably this might be like the seventh quote you might think when you're thinking about when Harrram and Sally, it's not I'll have what she's having, you know, It's not that it is the moment where we have in case you forget when Harry met Sally. We have the main couples in the movie, Harry and Sally, but then you also have a bunch of couples, like couples, interstitial couples who come in and they are played by actors, but they're based off of stories that real couples have given to the filmmakers. And so you have these two actors and one of the couples, a woman is recalling meeting her husband when they were both camp counselors, and she's she's just sitting there in this great way and she's just like, yeah, like people were always crossing rooms to talk to my friend Maxine, but he was coming to talk to me, and.

01:14:25
Speaker 2: He said, I'm Ben Small of the Coney Island Smalls.

01:14:29
Speaker 1: At that moment, I knew I knew the way you know about a good melon. I knew the way you know about a good melon, which is like it's like her delivery is great. But like I've also used it when I'm just describing something or just like yeah, I knew, I knew the way you know you know about a good melon. It's like you just yes, that instinct of like oh this is perfect or this is exactly what I need or what I want. It's just and again, it's it's a quote that I think, unless you were a huge one Harry met Sally fan, you're you're not gonna know what like everyone knows I'll have what she's having. But that's the one that's like, oh, you're you're digging deep into the one. Her name at Sally lore there. But it's it's such a good quote.

01:15:14
Speaker 2: I don't even know how.

01:15:15
Speaker 1: I don't know how you know about a good melon. I don't eat melons, but it's substitute.

01:15:20
Speaker 2: Yes, I don't know, you still get it. You instantly understand.

01:15:23
Speaker 1: Yes, exactly exactly.

01:15:25
Speaker 2: That's so great okay, my number four is the first of my three nineteen ninety two choices, and referenced Cameron Crowe earlier when talking about Clueless. I'm going to give him some more love here. The movie is Singles, so some more gen x.

01:15:45
Speaker 1: I haven't I still haven't seen this? Is that crazy?

01:15:47
Speaker 2: You haven't seen it? Okay?

01:15:48
Speaker 1: Yeah?

01:15:49
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, well.

01:15:50
Speaker 1: Wait, wait the single is the one with Ethan Hawk.

01:15:53
Speaker 2: No, no, that's it's Pemble Scott. Yeah, Reality Bikes.

01:15:58
Speaker 1: Okay, I've seen realated by haven't seen Singles?

01:15:59
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay. There's a scene early in the film where this fictional grunge band I suppose called Citizen Dick. We actually never see them perform a little bit of practice, but that's it. This fictional grunge band called Citizen Dick is sitting in the coffeehouse where Bridget Fonda's character works. She's the girlfriend of Matt Dillon's character, Cliff ponseol It. He's the lead singer of Citizen Dick, and they're sitting at a table. The bandmates they're reading a review of a recent show. And as I said, they're a fictional band, but his bandmates are three of the real members of Pearl Jam. Now again this is nineteen ninety two, but I think you know, Pearl Jam at that point was a real band and was known, but maybe you know, they certainly weren't the huge stars that they are now. And I don't remember exactly when they filmed this, but it's Jeff on Meant the bass player, it's Stone Gossard, one of the guitar players, and Eddie Vedder though Eddie is the drummer in this band, and it's a it's a great visual gag actually from Cameron Crow, because Jeff starts to read the review once again.

01:17:10
Speaker 5: When the shirtless Cliff Ponti, and he starts to sing, wait a minute here, I don't want to hear anything negative.

01:17:16
Speaker 2: And and even though he says that it's clear, he doesn't think it's going to be that bad, you know, And so he just kind of kind of smiles and and and just waits, and they go back to reading, and Crow shows us an over the shoulder shot of the of the newspaper, so we see what it says after that, and it's like it's like, once again, when the shirtless Cliff Ponsolate starts to sing, you wish Cliff would move to another town like New York or LA where his mediocrity blah blah blah. And and then it cuts back to a close up of Cliff and it just holds on him while he's still trying to maintain a smile for this extended period of time, and they just keep breeding, and it it only cuts back to Jeff and Eddie when they have to turn the page. There's more, right, there's more negative parts of the review other.

01:18:10
Speaker 1: Than that he was able to backed by Stone and Jeff and Drummerady better.

01:18:14
Speaker 2: I mean that's good. That's that's a good review. Finally, the review concludes, and we hear cliffs undaunted response.

01:18:23
Speaker 1: A compliment for us is a compliment for you, No, man, just negative energy just makes me stronger. We will not retreat. This band is unstoppable.

01:18:36
Speaker 2: This weekend we rock Portland. Yeah, now I have read that. Yeah, it's a little longer, right, so I unconsciously always shortened that. I removed though, we will not retreat. This band is unstoppable. And somehow I also changed this weekend to tonight. I would always say, no, man, this negative energy just makes me stronger. Tonight we rocked Portland. So I was misquoting Cliff Ponsolate, how dare I? But whenever, Ayisha, whenever, somebody was just really bringing me down. They were telling me all the reasons why I had screwed something up, or why I wasn't going to be able to accomplish something. I didn't need Tony Robbins or some other self help guru, because the voice I had in my head and the voice that then inevitably came out of my mouth, was Cliff Ponsolate saying, no, man, this negative energy just makes me stronger. Tonight we rocked Portland. Oh and and yes, everybody I said it to thought I was insane, but that didn't stop me.

01:19:39
Speaker 1: That's like the inverse of way harsh tie. It's like, instead of letting it, letting it harsh, you harsh five. You're like, yeah, that's it, just ignore it.

01:19:48
Speaker 2: No, nope, nope, I'm moving on. I'm moving on.

01:19:52
Speaker 1: That's great. I love it. Now I need to go watch singles.

01:19:56
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you should like it's.

01:19:58
Speaker 1: I know, it's such a mom it's such a move.

01:20:01
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's the thing. And yeah, I know there are a lot of people who are pretty down on it. I wouldn't put it up there. There are at least three other at least three other Camera Crow movies I like better, maybe four, yeah, or five. But I still enjoy it. I still have a soft spot for it. And talk about movie soundtracks, I still adore the single soundtrack.

01:20:19
Speaker 1: So yeah, awesome, you're number three, well my number three. We're taking it to animated realm here. And it is from another movie that has so many quotes, so many quotes that I also use, but I how to choose one. And it is from Emperor's New Groove. I don't know if you've watched it recently, Adam, No, I've.

01:20:40
Speaker 2: Never seen it. I've never seen it. And Sam Sam loves this movie like five star loves this movie and I've never seen it.

01:20:48
Speaker 1: Love Sam and I are on the same page. We may not agree about Alisia Silverstone, but we absolutely agree about this. The quote is said by the fantastic wonderful character Izma, who's played by earth the Kitzma. Is this like craggly, old purple skinned lady who is the advisor to the spoiled brat Emperor Kusco played by David Spade, voice by David Spade and she's fired as his advisor, and she seeks revenge and she tries to have him poisoned, but accidentally turns him into a lama instead. And so this moment comes towards the end of the film where they're all like they're on a wild goosecase and Kronk her Beefy Henchman who's voiced by Patrick Warburton Kronk, She's like, we have to go to the secret lab. And Kronk pulls a lever that's supposed to lead to their secret lab. But then Ezma falls through the ground while screaming wrong lever. Again. This is a it's animated, and there's a lot of Looney Tunes esque zaniness happening here. She quickly re emerges soaking wet while dragging in a crocodile, and she like the crocodile alligator camember witch and like she shakes it off and she says, why do we even have that lem? Why do we even have that lever? And that that is a line that you'd be surprised how often you can use it when something doesn't work or when something does the opposite of what it's supposed to do. I will often be just be like, why don't even have that? I don't I don't substitute it. I just say lever and then like maybe maybe one person understands, but it just.

01:22:29
Speaker 2: Feels, yeah, machinery fails.

01:22:32
Speaker 1: Yeah, why why do we even have that dishwasher? Ear? The kid is just so perfect in this role, and I love you know, there's been so much sort of stunt casting when it comes to voice rolls and animated movies, and I think this is one of the films where you know, you know all the names of the people who are being who are voicing these characters, but yet they all work so well. David Spade is great, Like, I think you would really like this movie, Adam.

01:22:59
Speaker 2: Everybody I know, oh loves it.

01:23:01
Speaker 1: So it's also very short, It's like eighty minutes. It's a breeze and Kronk is great. So why do we even have that? Lever? I will be asking until the day I die.

01:23:13
Speaker 2: That's so great? Okay, I'm in. And then Sam has been talking about that movie since two thousand and five and somehow I still haven't seen it.

01:23:22
Speaker 1: Ah, yeah, let me know when you do.

01:23:23
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, So how I arrived at my number three pick? Which is actually a joint pick. Here is interesting. I think it comes from the day the two of us settled on this top five. We were corresponding, we were scheduling the recording. This is like a month ago or so. We were scheduling it, and we were settling on this list, and so my brain is going, I'm thinking about I'm trying to you know, I'm going through the entire history of my life, thinking about all the movies I've quoted and the most quotable films. And even though it's weeks away, I'm putting in the work and I'm jotting things down in my notes app And that night, so this is just a couple hours after we were talking, my wife had made breakfast for dinner. Always a good call to make breakfast for dinner, right, Yeah, And I was going back into the kitchen for like my fourth or fifth piece of bacon, and as I was picking it up, a voice in my head instinctively went, bacon tastes good. Pork chops taste good. Suddenly I was doing John Travolta as Vincent Vega sitting across from Jewels Winfield in the diner in pulp fiction. When Jewles is explaining why he doesn't dig on swine.

01:24:50
Speaker 8: Yeah, bacon taste good.

01:24:53
Speaker 1: Pork chops taste good.

01:24:54
Speaker 2: Bacon tastes good. Pork chops taste good, like instantly, that's the compulsion I'm talking about.

01:25:00
Speaker 8: It.

01:25:00
Speaker 2: If someone says I don't like bacon, I say, yeah, but bacon tastes good. Right, And that instantly then took me to the two pulp fiction quotes I really do use more often than that. And yes, I guess I'm cheating here a little bit from jewels. Yeah you know them, right, Well.

01:25:21
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, go for it.

01:25:22
Speaker 2: You know them, but they're they're a pair. I can't separate jewels in vincent, so I'm not going to separate these quotes. If you're in any scenario, let's see if you can. You can pull these. If you're in any scenario where someone impresses you with their knowledge, they pull out an arcane bit of trivia. Check out the Big Brain on Brett. If it's an arcane bit of trivia, they come up with a brilliant idea, or maybe they just come up with a good idea under pressure. Maybe it's not even that good of an idea, but it's like you're just it was the best idea of the bunch, right. It doesn't matter if you're out at a bar, you're in a business meeting, you're at a dinner party. It's literally usable in any scenario. You can say like I do, or like Jeweles does.

01:26:07
Speaker 5: Check out the big brain on bread.

01:26:10
Speaker 2: Right, and you can swap their name in or don't. Just go ahead and call them Brett. Yeah, it works, just like you say, lever call them Brett. Doesn't matter right. The other The other is Vincent's line when he's buying drugs from Eric Stoltz, and it's the only quote on my list. I think it's the only quote on my list that you can say and the person you're saying it to won't necessarily look at you like you're crazy because it doesn't sound totally absurd, which is why I think I use it so often. Stolt says, I'll take the Pepsi challenge against that Amsterdam shit, and Vincent says, that's a bold statement, sat amstertams, that's a bold statement. I use it so m I probably said it a thousand times on this show.

01:27:03
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's funny because like I say that all the time. But I don't connect it with pulp fiction. It's I feel like it's.

01:27:10
Speaker 2: You're just actually using the phrase. It's just you picked it up. Yeah, yeah, Yeah, that's a bold statement. And I'm not totally doing the Vincent Vega draw but kind of, you know, cause I'm a bad imitator. But it's like, that's a bold statement.

01:27:23
Speaker 4: You know.

01:27:23
Speaker 2: That's what I'm hearing in my head every time anyone makes something that sounds remotely close to a bold statement.

01:27:30
Speaker 1: I love it.

01:27:31
Speaker 2: That's a bold statement. Those two lines for pulp fiction will never leave my head.

01:27:37
Speaker 1: That's great. I look, I'm not Josh, so I'm not going to ding you for cheating. Uh, you're getting away with.

01:27:43
Speaker 2: I think I think we need a permanent seat. Would you like would you like another job by you? Show?

01:27:48
Speaker 1: Sure? Why not be gone? Josh?

01:27:53
Speaker 2: Yes? What's your number? Two?

01:27:55
Speaker 1: Number two? Okay, So this is where I get extremely extremely niche. This is something that pretty much only me and my husband quoted each other because we've shown many people of this movie, but I don't think they have watched it as many times as we. I watch it, probably at least once or twice a year. It might be my favorite movie. Of all time or one of them. It's in the top ten. And this is from a movie called Miami Connection. It is grindhouse feature, really shaggy, terrible, really horrible movie, horribly made but so bad, it's so good. It's the how did this get made? Guys did an episode around this, which is how I learned about it. So it's that kind of movie, sure, And it was like it was from nineteen eighty seven, and it is about a a group called the electro synthpop band called Dragon Sound. They're a multi ethnic group of students who are attending the University of Central Florida together. And they are also like they know kung fu and do they fight these motorcycle riding ninjas. There's a lot going on, and there's a lot of great quotes from that movie, but the one that I find myself quoting and kind of you could argue I'm shoehorning this quote in into my real life, but like, I can't help it. It just reminds me. But there's a scene where all of the guys in the group there's one woman, but the guys are all like living together and like off campus housing or something. Also, they're all in college, but they're at minimum thirty. Some of them are much older. But they are in the house and one of the characters, Jim, who is played by Maurice Smith, he gets a letter from his someone who says he's his father, and he's like, I thought my father. I'd lost my father a long time ago, and so he gets this letter. They're all standing there in the living room and Mark who's played by y K. Kim, and he's like the leader of the group. He says, I didn't know you had a father. I thought we were all orphans.

01:30:03
Speaker 7: I didn't know you had a father.

01:30:05
Speaker 2: I thought we are or or PiZZ.

01:30:09
Speaker 1: And it's it's like one of those like the entire scene is ridiculous because then like Jim goes off and stands in the corner and does a monologue where he's like, my mother was Korean and my father was Black American and he just like goes off and not like it's it's insane, but I find myself off and saying when I'm with my husband, where something will happen. We're like we'll learn something about someone else, orts learn something about each other that like we didn't know, and they would be like I didn't know you had a father, and I thought we were all orphans.

01:30:44
Speaker 2: And it's the all. It's the all that really sells it, right, Yeah, I thought we.

01:30:48
Speaker 1: Were all because like they were all supposed to be or these are grown, grown men, but like their connection is that they're all like from different parts of the world and then they like don't know their families. But then this guy all of a sudden learns that you might have a father, and so it's like, oh man, we're not all orphans anymore.

01:31:06
Speaker 2: Wow, I have never heard of this movie.

01:31:08
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, you have to someone I think from Almo draft House rediscovered it because like it played in one or two theaters for like a week in nineteen eighty seven and then like was buried. And since it's become kind of like a cult classic where you know, people will have screenings of it. It's it's it's ridiculous. Also, the music is fantastic. I highly recommend watching it, and I think you can find it on Prime streaming or even on YouTube. Yeah. So yeah, yeah, I.

01:31:35
Speaker 2: Mean, I know you captured this insanity, but I'm still going to read it From IMDb. This is the synopsis A martial Arts rock band. I mean we could just stop there goes up against a band of motorcycle ninjas, yes, who have tightened their grip on Florida's narcotics trait.

01:31:52
Speaker 1: Yes, I forgot about the drums. I mean, but it's it's it's Miami connection, but it's set in Orlando.

01:31:58
Speaker 2: This band is only the roll Black Bulson Taekwondo and there pretty bad.

01:32:03
Speaker 9: I want you to mess it up by going out with a second grade musician like a John character.

01:32:07
Speaker 1: I can play God Damn Suns Chance Okay, yeah, so yeah, we are all ours.

01:32:20
Speaker 2: Okay, that's amazing. My number two. Maybe it was because I was a pretentious English major when this movie came out. Whatever it was, These words Ayisha just really they spoke to me, spoken by the immortal Kadeem Hartisan and white Men Can't Jump. Oh, they resonated with me then, and they have resonated with me to this very day. They are from the opening hustle scene between Woody Harrelson and Wesley Snipes. Snipes, Sidney Dean, is this a movie you've seen? White Men Can't Jump?

01:33:02
Speaker 1: I have never seen it in its entirety, believe it or not. It's been on my list of things, and I didn't even Realizekadem Hardison wasn't it.

01:33:09
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jor is his name. He's the sidekick. Yeah, he's the sidekick to Snipe's character Sidney Dean. He's just made his third shot in a row and Harrelson's Billy Hoyle has to reciprocate. He has to make the shot. Hardison's character Junior is standing next to him basically kind of heckling him, and after Sidney's third shot balls, he says to Billy, is.

01:33:36
Speaker 7: A joyful a man?

01:33:38
Speaker 1: John Key said, John Keys, that's from man.

01:33:41
Speaker 2: Something about something about in this this scenario, this hustle scenario, Kadeem Hardison dropping John Keats and saying, that's my man, John Keatson. I don't know. I have just always loved it. And I'm a terrible basketball player. But you know, maybe I'm out there with one of the kids and I swish one in the driveway, or maybe you just do something, you have to do something that requires some precision and you actually you nail it, you do it perfectly, or you actually do just see something that's beautiful, legitimately beautiful. It calls for it demands a thing of beauty is a joy forever. John Keats said that. My man John Keats, I say it all the time. My daughter Sophie, who is now an English major or pretentious English major, who adores John Keats and has read way more than I have ever read. And when we went to Rome recently, we had to go to the Keats house where he passed away, and loves the movie Bright Star because of Keats, that great Campion film. But she knew of John Keats because of me quoting a thing of beauty is a joy forever, not because I was quoting the Keats poem. I was quoting white men can't jump.

01:34:56
Speaker 1: You planted the seed planted s Yes, I the seed.

01:34:59
Speaker 2: So what I get the dual benefit of quoting both Ron Shelton, one of our all time great sports movie directors, and John Keats simultaneously. I love the line it is. It is always going to be useful. We're always going to encounter beauty. So yeah, why not?

01:35:17
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank of beauty.

01:35:18
Speaker 2: Love it, my man John Keats.

01:35:22
Speaker 1: Number one, Yeah, number one. Okay, So this is yet another movie where I could have chosen eight million other quotes that I also use many times. And you know, Clueless. That is a movie that is near and dear to my heart. I love it. But as someone who is a younger millennial when that movie came out and I saw it when I was, you know, a little bit past the flurry of Clueless mania, it's not the movie that has stuck with me in the same way that a different movie that came out just at the right time and which is clearly inspired in many ways by Clueless. Is this movie. Of course, you may may have guessed by now, it is Mean Girls. I was sixteen when this movie came out, and it spoke to me in so many ways. It still speaks to me in many many ways. I still say things like gruel randomly. It's just it is part of the lexicon. But my number one is going to be the moment when Damien played by Daniel Fransese, dressed up as Santa, is going around giving out candy grams for students, and of course Katie played by Lindsay Lohan and Damien and Jani is played by Linday Kaplan. They have this whole plot to like drive a wedge between the plastics the popular girls at the school, and so one of them is like we're gonna give out these candy grams and make sure one of the plastics doesn't get one. And so in that moment, Damien comes in dressed like Santa, and he's.

01:36:52
Speaker 2: Like tailor Zimmlement two for you, Glenn Coco. Far for you, Glenn Coco.

01:36:59
Speaker 1: You go, Glencoe, You go, Glenn Coco. And this is kind of similar to your check out the Big Brains on Bread quote, where I will find any like, anytime someone does something, whether it's big or small, dumb, whatever, I'll just be like, you go, Glenn Coco.

01:37:21
Speaker 2: Do you always do the voice too? I usually do.

01:37:24
Speaker 1: I usually do because it's like you can't. It's hard to say it without it. It's just like burnt in my brain. It's like full for you, Glenn Coco, you go, Cook Cocoa. And then sometimes I'll add in the other line that comes after it, and not for Groten readers, but yes, you go, Glen Coco. It works in so many situations it's become it's probably the line on here of my picks that's like resonated the most in pop culture. It's like a lot of people when I say it, will know exactly what I'm referencing, and so it's just I say it a lot. I say it, probably too much, but yeah, it's so good.

01:38:04
Speaker 2: I love it perfect. I can see I can see how that could be applied in many situations. Yeah, more than more than my number one, but it is my number one, and hopefully I can explain why. So this is one of the films, along with pulp fiction, that is in the film spotting Pantheon, and that's because it was put in very early on by my then co host producer Sam, a film we bonded over early on, realized that we quoted it together and knew we were going to get along if we were both quoting this film because it it might be for both of us the film that we think is the most quotable movie of all time, and it's Glen Garry Glenn Ross. This is from the scene featuring, of course, Alec Baldwin's character Blake, which that scene might offer the most quotes per minute of any scene in all of cinema. The one I use most often, though let me be clear, it's either when I'm in the car by myself feeling a little road ragee or when I'm in the company of very good friends with whom I'm very comfortable around. It comes from Blake's explanation of the AIDA.

01:39:24
Speaker 5: Acronym Aida attention interest, decision action attention.

01:39:31
Speaker 2: Do I have your attention? Interest? Are you interested?

01:39:34
Speaker 1: I know you are, because it's a walk you close or you hit the bricks?

01:39:39
Speaker 2: Decision? Have you made your decision for Christ? Have you made your decision for Christ? It's that in the way Baldwin delivers that line, in specifically the for Christ, because with just a little bit more emphasis on Christ, it becomes this pure expression of exasperation, like have you made your decision for Christ? Like for Christ? You know. But he isn't expressing exasperation, as he says to these men earlier that he's haranguing and belittling. I'm here, I'm here from downtown. I'm here for Mitch and Murray. I'm here on a mission of mercy. He's offering. He thinks he's offering them their only ticket to salvation. And in the context of ai DA, getting the customer to sign on the line which is dotted, is that ticket, and it is in their world it is as consequential as accepting Jesus as their Lord and savior. So so he is saying, have you made your decision for Christ? So when I'm in the car and it's the other cars turned to go at the stop sign and they're just sitting there, or they're taking way too long to merge onto the interstate, I might channel a little blake and ask no one in particular, have you made your decision for Christ? Or if a friend is taking a long time to decide what to order at the restaurant, yeah, they might get a little blake. You know, they might get some blake. Have you made your decision for Christ? You know, if it's midday, I might have invited them out by saying, now, will you go to lunch? Go to lunch? Will you go to lunch? I might throw in a bonus Glengarry Glenn Ross quote as well. So it's an embarrassment of riches for me. So that's it. Something just about Baldwin's line delivery just every time slays me, and it's seared into my brain. So anytime, really, anytime, I'm getting just a little bit impatient. Just know I may not be saying it, but I am thinking, have you made your decision for Christ?

01:41:52
Speaker 1: Have you made your decision for Christ. He's just I mean, I haven't watched that movie in a very long time, but I have done multiple rewatches of thirty Rock and his ability to channel exasperation and smugness and just like to stain all in sometimes all in one. One fell Swoop is masterclass. Masterclass.

01:42:15
Speaker 2: It's true, isn't it. To see our picks, and that means in this case, not only revisiting or rereading the quotes, but also watching the scenes. You can go to film spotting dot net and click on lists. You can send your picks or any other comments about the show to feedback at film spotting dot net. That is our show. Send your picks or any other comments about the show to feedback at film spotting dot net. Ashe, do you have any others that you want to make sure you get a mention in for?

01:42:46
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, one is from Coming to America. There are so many from that, but specifically this is beautiful what is that velvet? I love that line. Also, I always get the fuzzy ends of the lollipop from Some Like It Hot, the Marilyn Monroe line, and baby Fishmouth from When Harry met Sally. Sometimes I just yell, I have baby fishmouth, because sure, there.

01:43:12
Speaker 2: Are so many. This is tough, but I'll give you. I'll give you a couple. One I was reminded of I had to add to the list. Just following this past weekend, I was at a graduation party and there were different drinks being served. I opened up the fridge to see what beer they had, and the only beer, Not that this was necessarily a bad thing, but the only beer that they had for me to drink was Heineken, which meant that in my brain, I said, Sam, get ready to get out the bleeper for radio Heineken. Fuck that shit. Perhaps blue ribbon, just like Dennis Hopper's frank booth in blue velvet. Anybody who saw that film or saw it ten or twenty times like I did, or that's what you think of when you think of Heineken, even if you like Heinegan. You think about that line from Dennis Hopper. Here's another weird one from Airplane. Of all the lines from Airplane, one I think about all the time, which was apparently a spoof of coffee commercials back in the day, where you know a wife was like suspicious of her husband because they're out at a dinner party, or something. They're somewhere and he orders a second cup of coffee and she's like, he never orders a second cup of coffee at home, Like when she makes coffee, he doesn't like it or something, and she's all anxious about it. So there's a line where he says, yes, I'll have a second cup of coffee from the flight attendant, and in voiceover she's like, Jim never has a second cup of coffee at home. For some reason, that line is so stuck with me that if I'm at a restaurant or something and someone goes, oh, would you like some more coffee, I'll be like, you never have a second cup of coffee at home? Why I don't? I don't really know. Ghostbusters. There's a part in Ghostbusters me and my friends from the eighties, my grade school friends, we think about this one all the time when Rick Moranis's character like turns into whoever, the gatekeeper, the key master, whoever right later in the movie, and he's acting all all funny, and Janine asks do you want some coffee? And he turns to Egon and he says do I and Egan says, yes, have some, and he turns and so Rick Moranis turns to Janet and goes, yes, have some. Anytime we're at a restaurant or something and someone says like, do you want some? And they go do I, Yes, have some? Yes, And they repeat that, yes, have some. We do that whole bit. Why I don't know, because we're stupid, but we do, Yes, Yes, have some. One last one this is another. This is another one that Sam and I we actually saw this movie together. We reviewed it on show. He didn't end up liking it as much as me, but it's a line that got a simultaneous laugh out of both of us and we still both say it to this day. There's a moment in the movie Little Miss Sunshine. I don't remember the exact circumstances, but you know, they're in the van or whatever I don't remember. They get pulled over by the cops and there's something in the back of the van that they don't want the cops to see, or Greg Kaneer is. The dad is sure there's something in the back of the van that they don't want the cops to see, and the cop says like take this out, you know, show me what's under here, and the dad canear being sure that he's gonna see this terrible thing goes sweet sweetness, and the way he says it, the way he says sweet sweetness. Sam and I now say that we still say that for some reason anytime, anytime, like we think something terrible is about to happen, or like instead of saying like oh God or oh no, we say sweet sweetness, just like Greg Knneer does.

01:46:59
Speaker 1: So yeah, yes, that's like me. And when I say because of fast and the furious, it's like you sometimes you say you're just like you gotta say it, family.

01:47:09
Speaker 2: You got to say it. It's just like Vin Diesel.

01:47:11
Speaker 7: Right.

01:47:13
Speaker 2: Those are our honorable mentions and again those are all of our picks for top five movie quotes in our lexicon. We would love to hear from you. Email us feedback at film spotting dot net. That is our show. You can find me and film Spotting on Instagram, Facebook and letterboxed at film Spotting, Josh is at Larson on film Aisha work, and we find you on social media these days.

01:47:37
Speaker 1: I'm on Blue Sky at Aisha Harris very straightforward. You can also find me on Instagram at a hot eight eight the numbers eight eight and then of course find me on NPR pop Quatre Happy Hour, where you get your podcasts. We're we're we're having a fun time over there and yeah, that's that's it.

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01:48:56
Speaker 1: Yeah, it has this absurdly long marketing title that is something along lines of from the world of John Wick Colon Ballerina, which no one's saying all that. Yeah, you're absolutely doing it. I actually saw it at the time that we're recording this. I saw it last night. We just taped our episode this morning, so yeah, we will be covering it. It's if you like John Wick, you'll probably like this. That's what I'll say.

01:49:20
Speaker 2: Okay, fair enough. The Ritual is also out Two Priests one Exorcism. The two priests are Dan Stevens and Al Pacino. Okay, okay, in limited release. Another movie featuring some priests, Dogma Resurrected. This is a twenty fifth anniversary re release in theaters. Dangerous Animals is also out now follow Me Here. Not just a serial killer movie, not just a killer shark movie. It's a serial killer who feeds his victims. Too sharp movie, okay with Ji Courtney. Brian Talerico says, quote fun stuff. Oh quote.

01:49:58
Speaker 1: I mean I say, I trust Brian for a lot of Yeah.

01:50:03
Speaker 2: Yeah, steer us wrong.

01:50:05
Speaker 1: I mean it sounds like a fun, fun movie to watch with a lot of other people. Perhaps, Yeah, Yeah.

01:50:12
Speaker 2: The Life of Chuck is also out. This is the Life of Chuck, starring Tom Hidleston in three acts, directed by Mike Flanagan, adapting the Stephen King novella. This one the People's Choice Award at the twenty twenty four Toronto International Film Festival. Now fun fact that maybe everyone is familiar with by now in relation to this film, all but one winner of that award going back to two thousand and eight has been nominated for Best Picture, including several winners Green Book, Slum Dog, Millionaire, The King's Speech, Twelve Years of Slave, and Nomad Land. We'll see if The Life of Chuck has similar luck. The Phoenician scheme from Wes Anderson also expands. Next week on the show, Josh returns, We'll talk Wes Anderson in the Phoenician Scheme, We'll talk the documentary pavements, and we will close out our Andre Tarkovski marathon. Film Spotting is produced by Golden Joe, Toss and Sam van Holgren. Without Sam and Golden Joe, the show wouldn't go. Our production assistant is Sophie Kempinar and special thanks to everyone at WB Eazy Chicago. More information is available at wbez dot org. Aisha, this was a pleasure. I think this is the first time we've gotten to co host an entire show together. What a frill. Thank you anyway, I don't know about you.

01:51:29
Speaker 1: Yeah no, this was thrilling. I love it and I appreciate you allowing me to step in. Josh is very very big choose, so thank you.

01:51:39
Speaker 2: Yeah. He he is tall, he has big feet, so that's that's a fair that's a fair and accurate statement. Again, check Aisha out at pop Culture Happy Hour. Thanks again, thank you for film spotting. I'm Adam Kempinar. Thanks for listening.

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01:51:58
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