Club 520 - Jeff Teague & E’Twaun Moore on playing with Anthony Davis, against Derrick Rose + BEST NBA guards

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My name is DJ Wells. 0:00:45.400 --> 0:00:48.040 Special guest on my left, Indiana Legend in the building, 0:00:48.320 --> 0:00:50.920 Introduce my man's last my far left. We got my dog. 0:00:51.000 --> 0:00:53.320 This should be hearing out the periles. How you went nasty, 0:00:53.479 --> 0:00:55.080 cool and nasty. Let's get to it. 0:00:55.160 --> 0:00:57.120 Man, it's a long night, long night. 0:00:57.400 --> 0:00:59.160 Yeah, I'm back though, I'm back a hundred and. 0:00:59.280 --> 0:01:01.920 The neutral course get real tricky for sure, I'm back. 0:01:02.800 --> 0:01:05.120 Look now he had a uniform normally here here with 0:01:05.160 --> 0:01:08.240 the Black Forces with the white laces. You know something 0:01:08.400 --> 0:01:10.840 from the two one nine. Have you ever seen the 0:01:10.920 --> 0:01:13.080 Black Forces with the white lecens up north man. 0:01:13.040 --> 0:01:15.520 Now with the white laces. I've seen in all black 0:01:15.640 --> 0:01:16.399 the black laces. 0:01:16.440 --> 0:01:19.960 Yeah? What that meaning? Two one on? What they got 0:01:20.040 --> 0:01:21.679 us some forces? One? 0:01:21.959 --> 0:01:25.920 Oh? Yeah that man? I mean you're ready step you 0:01:26.040 --> 0:01:29.440 stepped watching the Black Forces. You gotta watch him go 0:01:29.880 --> 0:01:30.280 he's doing. 0:01:30.680 --> 0:01:33.080 I didn't put so much mud on the Black Force 0:01:33.200 --> 0:01:35.880 like it wasn't like that one niggas didn't look at 0:01:35.920 --> 0:01:36.480 people like that. 0:01:36.640 --> 0:01:37.280 Bro, You're right. 0:01:37.400 --> 0:01:39.360 I remember, man, I remember I had a middle school team. 0:01:39.760 --> 0:01:41.679 All of them was hooping the low top Black Forces 0:01:42.600 --> 0:01:44.240 hooping in them the game. 0:01:49.840 --> 0:01:50.800 The whole team. 0:01:52.720 --> 0:01:56.400 Team from Chicago Morgan Park, they all whole black like, 0:01:56.480 --> 0:01:58.080 oh okay, get ready. 0:01:58.200 --> 0:02:06.440 They pressed the whole game team flippers. But it's about right, 0:02:06.560 --> 0:02:08.480 my dog, young I told your team you got you what? 0:02:08.720 --> 0:02:13.520 And I'm cooling, man. We got a seven graduate. Yeah, bro, 0:02:13.560 --> 0:02:15.720 it's gonna be a good show for sure. Man gigged 0:02:15.720 --> 0:02:17.560 about this episode. Man, I ain't gonna hold you know 0:02:17.560 --> 0:02:19.880 what I'm saying that two one nine. 0:02:19.960 --> 0:02:23.239 I always love relationship up there, and I gotta say, man, 0:02:23.480 --> 0:02:25.560 you are one of the most underrated players to come 0:02:25.600 --> 0:02:29.600 out Indiana, Like one of the most underrated players that 0:02:29.639 --> 0:02:31.560 don't get talking about enough from the state of Indiana, 0:02:31.639 --> 0:02:33.799 from your high school career to your college career and 0:02:33.880 --> 0:02:35.919 to having a decade plus in the league. Man, you 0:02:36.080 --> 0:02:38.160 have one of the most underrated careers. Man, we're gonna 0:02:38.200 --> 0:02:39.560 talk about that ship today. But if you don't know 0:02:39.600 --> 0:02:41.400 who we got each one more and my dog man 0:02:41.480 --> 0:02:43.119 appreciate you pulling up on the big job. 0:02:43.320 --> 0:02:46.400 Appreciate having me. Man, I don't watch enough episode and 0:02:46.480 --> 0:02:50.560 say Okay, by time I'm saying facts for sure. 0:02:50.919 --> 0:02:53.000 Now I have my toe homies about I was like 0:02:53.280 --> 0:02:56.320 Mike g GP Hollis like, hey, we gotta make that happen. Man, 0:02:56.400 --> 0:02:58.079 I'm happy that we made happy without them, so we 0:02:58.120 --> 0:02:58.919 can blame them for it. 0:03:00.080 --> 0:03:07.799 Took my nigga to reil shout out the man, my 0:03:07.880 --> 0:03:08.840 nigga put this together. 0:03:09.000 --> 0:03:09.519 Love game. 0:03:09.600 --> 0:03:11.600 No, I appreciate you big that look he really out 0:03:11.600 --> 0:03:13.480 of pocket. He got to tell he got the basketart. 0:03:16.800 --> 0:03:18.160 You know his love I had a loan. 0:03:20.120 --> 0:03:24.880 You have a different he knew person about your career. 0:03:28.480 --> 0:03:30.600 I feel for sure, man, we gotta take it back. 0:03:30.800 --> 0:03:35.960 Like you said, class seven man growing up before having 0:03:35.960 --> 0:03:36.400 any running. 0:03:36.560 --> 0:03:40.160 Yeah, you remember the first time we played against him, 0:03:40.160 --> 0:03:41.880 we thought him my boy field looking like. 0:03:43.880 --> 0:03:48.600 Like like twin, let me twin, and he came out 0:03:48.600 --> 0:03:50.240 and start killing us. We like he played for the 0:03:50.440 --> 0:03:52.840 end of the league. I'm like, damn, this nigga nice, 0:03:53.160 --> 0:03:55.600 like who is this nigga? And but he was cool, 0:03:55.720 --> 0:03:56.440 he was like he is. 0:03:56.480 --> 0:03:59.120 Now a full story. You know that the full we 0:03:59.240 --> 0:04:07.280 were talking ship time story all the way, all the 0:04:07.320 --> 0:04:08.960 way had went. So let me tell you how all 0:04:08.960 --> 0:04:09.600 the way I went. 0:04:10.040 --> 0:04:11.120 I want to an elite. 0:04:12.640 --> 0:04:16.240 It's actually is actually our freshman year, our freshman year 0:04:16.240 --> 0:04:18.719 of high school. And I'm playing with a whole bunch 0:04:18.720 --> 0:04:21.040 of guys. I don't even know. They just know you 0:04:21.120 --> 0:04:22.800 want to come. We're gonna get you some shoes, and 0:04:23.200 --> 0:04:25.480 I'm yeah, come on, anything. 0:04:25.200 --> 0:04:25.680 Free of me. 0:04:25.839 --> 0:04:29.680 So pair of shoes, you get the travel, Come on, 0:04:29.720 --> 0:04:33.239 I'm coming to hoop. So the guys are from middle 0:04:33.279 --> 0:04:35.600 of Indiana. I don't know who nobody is. I'm the 0:04:35.680 --> 0:04:38.920 only doing for EA Chicago. I'm just going out there 0:04:39.080 --> 0:04:42.040 just hooping and and I see their team it's crazy. 0:04:42.080 --> 0:04:45.520 I do remember the dude feel that hold on before 0:04:45.560 --> 0:04:46.920 the game. They're like, man, you look like my boy 0:04:46.920 --> 0:04:48.600 this show. When they joking on me, they don't say 0:04:48.640 --> 0:04:51.440 they laughing. I'm like, okay, they think they think it's cool. 0:04:52.400 --> 0:04:54.720 I think it's cool. That's crazy because you have the 0:04:54.800 --> 0:05:00.800 long braids. Long braids. First, first couple of buckets, I 0:05:00.880 --> 0:05:04.360 got you think you think he cold? Think he Cold's 0:05:04.440 --> 0:05:07.720 they talking crazy? I'm on the team full of due 0:05:07.839 --> 0:05:09.880 white dudes on my team and me and one other 0:05:09.920 --> 0:05:12.960 black dude, and they never saw me before. Was the 0:05:13.040 --> 0:05:16.080 first time that you know before that I ain't leave 0:05:16.120 --> 0:05:18.719 out and gear each Chicago too. So that's my first 0:05:18.760 --> 0:05:22.520 time even traveling the hoop. First couple of buckets. In 0:05:22.560 --> 0:05:25.040 the next couple of buckets, are you weak ass? And 0:05:25.480 --> 0:05:34.159 turned in and turned up a little about fifteen twenty 0:05:34.200 --> 0:05:34.880 minutes of the game. 0:05:35.279 --> 0:05:38.440 Are you a bit about time? 0:05:38.640 --> 0:05:38.800 Oh? 0:05:38.960 --> 0:05:39.080 Man? 0:05:39.080 --> 0:05:42.160 He that comes to me clean. He's a bully, he man, 0:05:42.200 --> 0:05:42.479 he was. 0:05:45.040 --> 0:05:45.560 To that to you. 0:05:45.920 --> 0:05:47.480 I got too out of got too many buck I 0:05:47.480 --> 0:05:49.800 ain't even saying so one thing about me. Like most 0:05:49.839 --> 0:05:52.160 people think I'm quiet, I ain't quiet. I'm just super 0:05:52.240 --> 0:05:53.000 laid back man. 0:05:53.640 --> 0:05:54.000 I can't. 0:05:54.080 --> 0:05:54.400 I can't. 0:05:54.480 --> 0:05:56.720 I can't talk, and who. So people like, man, you're quiet, 0:05:56.760 --> 0:05:58.760 of course you just go up like I can't talk, 0:05:58.800 --> 0:06:00.560 I can't function it. I ain't gonna I mess up 0:06:00.600 --> 0:06:03.640 here play. I'm gonna I'm gonna shoot something crazy. I can't, 0:06:03.680 --> 0:06:05.320 I can't talk, and who so you know what I'm saying. 0:06:05.320 --> 0:06:07.280 I always just be chilling. I'll be mellow. I gotta 0:06:07.279 --> 0:06:07.599 be calm. 0:06:09.640 --> 0:06:10.240 So then a boy. 0:06:10.920 --> 0:06:15.440 Then by one, I'm probably about taking about twenty points in. 0:06:15.880 --> 0:06:17.880 I got a shoulder shove and everything. We just got 0:06:17.920 --> 0:06:20.680 a little scuffing. I had to push him apart, like 0:06:21.200 --> 0:06:24.600 you you know what I'm saying. But after that game, 0:06:24.640 --> 0:06:26.560 but after that it was cool though. Man, But that 0:06:26.640 --> 0:06:28.920 was our first time running to each souse. I'm like, damn, man, 0:06:28.920 --> 0:06:30.440 he trying. You know what I'm saying. You want to smoke. 0:06:30.640 --> 0:06:36.200 He wanted you want to swell. He was about the 0:06:36.240 --> 0:06:39.600 same height, so we like I thought he was a forward. 0:06:39.839 --> 0:06:43.160 He came out playing point guardship. I'm like, hell no, 0:06:43.440 --> 0:06:45.760 after that, I knew who he was after that day. 0:06:46.600 --> 0:06:49.840 Since then, though, it's been cool. Man sore. After that 0:06:49.960 --> 0:06:51.760 for real, we just found out, like damn, I'm like Dan, 0:06:51.839 --> 0:06:53.320 here's somebody else is like you know what I'm saying, 0:06:53.320 --> 0:06:57.200 because I'm I mean, y'all Northeast, you know what I'm saying. Neighborhood, 0:06:57.200 --> 0:06:59.800 neighborhood kids, probably the kids, but I'm leaving outside of here. 0:07:00.400 --> 0:07:03.080 I'm thinking of all the other people from everywhere else 0:07:03.320 --> 0:07:05.680 down and like preppy and like I'm like dann hold on. 0:07:06.120 --> 0:07:08.120 They just like me. They talking like you know what 0:07:08.160 --> 0:07:11.240 I'm saying. We hoopd the Indiana All STARF no crazy. 0:07:11.400 --> 0:07:13.480 I played against you. Well I played let me tell 0:07:13.520 --> 0:07:16.320 you this story. So I played against them for three minutes. 0:07:16.640 --> 0:07:20.800 All right, Yeah, but we played when you was on 0:07:21.000 --> 0:07:26.920 s y F. Yeah you Robbie. I had one too, 0:07:27.480 --> 0:07:29.480 but a very time that we saw each other after, man, 0:07:29.520 --> 0:07:30.000 it was cool. 0:07:30.880 --> 0:07:31.320 That was cool. 0:07:31.320 --> 0:07:33.600 I actually liked. I'm like, okay, they just like us. 0:07:34.200 --> 0:07:35.880 Indian All Stars was a time man. 0:07:36.520 --> 0:07:38.880 Oh yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, we had We had a 0:07:38.920 --> 0:07:39.400 real good. 0:07:39.560 --> 0:07:40.160 That's what I knew. 0:07:40.200 --> 0:07:43.440 He was different though, All Stars because you know, everything 0:07:43.520 --> 0:07:46.480 was geared around Eric. Like so we go to practice. 0:07:46.720 --> 0:07:49.080 You know, they was all going to Indiana schools. I'm 0:07:49.120 --> 0:07:52.360 going to wake so I wasn't getting no love. They 0:07:52.480 --> 0:07:54.800 was the Purdue verse you and practice. 0:07:55.040 --> 0:07:56.200 He like I got Eric. 0:07:56.320 --> 0:08:05.600 I'm like, you know, it was average, Like I got him, 0:08:05.960 --> 0:08:09.760 what's up? Like he different. I'm like, he's gonna be 0:08:10.240 --> 0:08:13.200 go at it. I'm like, yeah, it's crazy because I 0:08:13.240 --> 0:08:15.520 know people used to always try to like, uh, prepare 0:08:15.880 --> 0:08:17.760 and at the time, I ain't gonna lie to you. 0:08:17.880 --> 0:08:19.520 I thought I was cold. And then I'm like, I'm 0:08:19.600 --> 0:08:21.960 colder than him. Can he ain't messed with you know 0:08:22.000 --> 0:08:22.480 what I'm saying. 0:08:23.240 --> 0:08:23.840 I look back. 0:08:24.240 --> 0:08:26.280 I look back on him. I got once about time 0:08:26.320 --> 0:08:31.800 I got to I said what he was like, I 0:08:31.880 --> 0:08:34.800 was like, maybe way colder than me, Like he was strong. 0:08:34.920 --> 0:08:37.079 They could have went to the NBA tenth grade. 0:08:37.480 --> 0:08:40.280 I went to that game where I played them. He 0:08:40.320 --> 0:08:47.960 had that fifty p you got your link back, got 0:08:48.000 --> 0:08:48.640 his link back. 0:08:49.640 --> 0:08:53.000 His career so underrating obviously at time period, like everybody 0:08:53.080 --> 0:08:57.240 every year, we had consistent McDonald's Americans. But Eric was 0:08:57.360 --> 0:09:00.319 so good, but y'all was just right there to It 0:09:00.480 --> 0:09:02.920 just didn't help because everybody pushed that. But y'all was, 0:09:03.000 --> 0:09:05.719 like you said, you wouldn't state the time where everybody 0:09:05.880 --> 0:09:06.200 was caught. 0:09:06.760 --> 0:09:09.760 You had to play everybody good to get that one yeah, 0:09:09.800 --> 0:09:10.040 we had. 0:09:10.120 --> 0:09:12.959 Yeah, competition was crazy as the amount of dudes that 0:09:13.000 --> 0:09:15.720 made it to the league too. Man, I tell people 0:09:15.720 --> 0:09:18.480 all the time, man a competition we was and one 0:09:18.720 --> 0:09:21.080 like nobody doesn't no smoke. Everybody wanted to play against 0:09:21.080 --> 0:09:23.720 each other. It was all love to at the same time. 0:09:24.000 --> 0:09:26.400 Even with y'all, Like it was just so crazy because 0:09:26.440 --> 0:09:29.440 pite even in years was going twenty two and four. Yeah, 0:09:29.480 --> 0:09:31.280 you got to play Greg Golden and if you get 0:09:31.360 --> 0:09:33.079 lucky and beat them, you get Eric Gordon. 0:09:33.559 --> 0:09:34.480 That sh is crazy. 0:09:34.640 --> 0:09:38.040 They had Josh roberts bro then we have people like 0:09:38.200 --> 0:09:39.920 people forget like Dominique James. 0:09:40.000 --> 0:09:41.720 That was cold rich Ship. 0:09:41.800 --> 0:09:44.040 We played Juwana and then he was at Franklin Central. 0:09:44.080 --> 0:09:49.920 They beat us one game, like damn really escape but 0:09:50.080 --> 0:09:53.839 NBA player really Yeah basketball, I feel like indiwna high 0:09:53.840 --> 0:09:55.480 school basketball the best in the country. 0:09:55.640 --> 0:09:55.840 Yeah. 0:09:56.040 --> 0:09:57.800 I mean for other people, they might want to argue that. 0:09:58.120 --> 0:10:00.319 For me, I feel like it's the best. It's especially 0:10:00.400 --> 0:10:02.959 that air for sure, that goal there here. Everybody had 0:10:03.040 --> 0:10:05.760 a NBA player. Everybody had multiple D one players. Like 0:10:05.800 --> 0:10:08.920 you couldn't duck that smoke. But you said that seven 0:10:09.000 --> 0:10:11.680 class man, I was y'all was different like all across 0:10:11.720 --> 0:10:14.400 the board, like everybody who got drafted and then y'all 0:10:14.440 --> 0:10:15.000 going to college. 0:10:15.280 --> 0:10:16.640 You know what I'm saying. Did you know y'all almost 0:10:16.640 --> 0:10:17.720 played college basketball together? 0:10:18.520 --> 0:10:18.559 No? 0:10:19.480 --> 0:10:24.079 No, No. He the reason I didn't play because I 0:10:24.200 --> 0:10:26.800 just took my high school team to Purdue. I was 0:10:26.880 --> 0:10:30.000 telling coach Painter like I had committed to Purdue, right, 0:10:30.080 --> 0:10:32.959 but they had no scholarship for me, for real, because 0:10:33.000 --> 0:10:33.120 of you. 0:10:34.600 --> 0:10:41.360 Ide put his head on just like that somebody else. 0:10:44.120 --> 0:10:46.800 It was like, I'm going to Purdue and he was like, 0:10:47.520 --> 0:10:50.880 we don't got no scholarship because I got a highlight. 0:10:50.960 --> 0:10:53.719 Coach he was just telling me, was like it was 0:10:53.800 --> 0:10:55.520 between me and you, right. 0:10:55.720 --> 0:10:57.120 But he was like he knew he was you and 0:10:57.280 --> 0:10:59.760 Robbie was going to school together or something like that, right, 0:11:00.040 --> 0:11:02.920 And he was like, uh, I ain't about to pass 0:11:03.000 --> 0:11:05.360 up on you, twyning to rob you for you, Like really, 0:11:05.880 --> 0:11:08.679 you're a different position. You're the man of point. And 0:11:08.760 --> 0:11:10.320 I was like, but we all would have played together. 0:11:10.360 --> 0:11:14.760 He was like, yeah, it was, I would taking no chances. 0:11:14.800 --> 0:11:16.559 I was like, damn, but I wanted to go to 0:11:16.640 --> 0:11:18.600 produce bad bro you have been That's why he went 0:11:18.640 --> 0:11:21.400 the way for it. I'm gonna get some black and gold. 0:11:21.480 --> 0:11:22.120 Yeah, for sure. 0:11:22.280 --> 0:11:26.280 We would have been so nasty that'd been That'd have 0:11:26.320 --> 0:11:29.240 been crazy. And then when I mentioned then the All Stars, 0:11:29.280 --> 0:11:34.520 I'm like, man, I swear what Coach Prosser had died 0:11:34.600 --> 0:11:35.080 that summer. 0:11:35.640 --> 0:11:37.160 So they was like, you can leave. You got like 0:11:37.280 --> 0:11:38.760 thirty days ago wherever you want to go? 0:11:39.000 --> 0:11:39.120 Right? 0:11:39.320 --> 0:11:40.480 And I called my mom, was like you think we 0:11:40.480 --> 0:11:43.840 should call for My dad was like, hey on not first, 0:11:44.080 --> 0:11:45.760 I want you now why you want to go back there? 0:11:45.760 --> 0:11:48.880 I'm like, it's been fun as hell, want cool as. 0:11:48.840 --> 0:11:51.960 He even Rob like people ain't was as cool as 0:11:52.000 --> 0:11:54.360 he was now for real, wed together in high school 0:11:54.440 --> 0:11:58.920 and Paraiso probably what thirty five minutes from Chicago. I'm 0:11:58.920 --> 0:12:01.120 saying I didn't win over that hung out with him, 0:12:01.160 --> 0:12:03.440 kicked it. He cool, real, real cool man. 0:12:03.640 --> 0:12:06.640 Yeah, and was cold like obviously in college, but high 0:12:06.640 --> 0:12:08.880 school too, like Scott Maday, that's what I said for 0:12:09.000 --> 0:12:11.640 y'all to win y'all regional up there, and like it was. 0:12:11.840 --> 0:12:14.840 It was a lot of pros up there. Yeah for sure, Yeah, 0:12:14.880 --> 0:12:15.600 a lot of pros. 0:12:15.760 --> 0:12:17.760 It's crazy because even like in my high school team, 0:12:17.760 --> 0:12:20.280 we had like six sets, like seventy one dudes, like 0:12:20.360 --> 0:12:21.439 on my high school. 0:12:23.720 --> 0:12:25.760 Shot he was cold. 0:12:25.880 --> 0:12:26.800 Oh yeah he was cold. 0:12:27.640 --> 0:12:27.840 Yeah. 0:12:28.480 --> 0:12:31.480 College so easy, Oh so easy. He's coming to open 0:12:31.520 --> 0:12:33.959 gyms were for due. I think about he a lot, 0:12:34.200 --> 0:12:38.600 d lyn. He he's six fol three ten, three fifteen, 0:12:38.679 --> 0:12:42.040 and he coming out there killing off, killing some of 0:12:42.080 --> 0:12:44.200 the dudes that was started. He come out there shooting three, 0:12:44.480 --> 0:12:45.080 posting them up. 0:12:45.160 --> 0:12:46.839 Light on his feet, bro, light on. 0:12:47.679 --> 0:12:49.400 Who was the other dudes you had? 0:12:49.559 --> 0:12:49.760 Man? 0:12:49.840 --> 0:12:50.200 Angel? 0:12:50.520 --> 0:12:52.520 Yeah, Angel, Yeah, we're hell. 0:12:52.559 --> 0:12:55.120 He come from I don't know what. 0:12:55.280 --> 0:13:01.360 Hey, you a fan A seven foot KD coming out. 0:13:02.600 --> 0:13:03.959 I said, it came out of nowhere. 0:13:03.960 --> 0:13:04.160 It was. 0:13:04.400 --> 0:13:06.240 It was cold. I did not need that edition, bro 0:13:06.360 --> 0:13:07.480 y'all did not need that edition. 0:13:09.320 --> 0:13:10.880 Him kwan in that front corn and. 0:13:12.920 --> 0:13:16.599 Dribbling the boll. I'm like, man, he got bullies. 0:13:17.559 --> 0:13:19.959 I was like, he ain't. No, that's only that's only 0:13:20.040 --> 0:13:25.319 English word, you know, pastor. Yeah, that's all he knew. 0:13:25.360 --> 0:13:26.440 But man, he was nice. 0:13:26.679 --> 0:13:28.480 It was nice for sure. Man. 0:13:28.520 --> 0:13:29.760 And then obviously you know what I'm saying, you going 0:13:29.800 --> 0:13:32.240 to Purdue having a crazy career a Purdue. How has 0:13:32.240 --> 0:13:34.079 it been seeing him like with the success and like 0:13:34.120 --> 0:13:36.040 back of that time period, like how was that playing in. 0:13:36.280 --> 0:13:38.840 The Big Ten with the big team was the Big Ten? 0:13:39.040 --> 0:13:41.520 Like everybody was lit there. Man, it was nice. 0:13:41.720 --> 0:13:45.120 So it's crazy, Man, I ain't had a capable when 0:13:45.120 --> 0:13:47.600 I grew up, you know what I'm saying. So Purdue 0:13:47.720 --> 0:13:49.560 was one of the only few teams on TV. Purdue 0:13:49.880 --> 0:13:54.240 and Illinois. It was closest to supposed to do. Tell me, 0:13:54.360 --> 0:13:57.200 so you know me, I was watching the gaming, man, hag. 0:13:57.280 --> 0:14:00.319 I wish I could hoop somewhere like that. So going 0:14:00.400 --> 0:14:03.040 that was like crazy. I'm like, dang d when they 0:14:03.080 --> 0:14:05.439 first off miss scholarship, I'm like, y'all show y'all want me, 0:14:05.720 --> 0:14:07.160 you know what I'm saying, because you just don't know. 0:14:08.600 --> 0:14:11.240 But man, going out who especially Glenn Robinson for being 0:14:11.280 --> 0:14:13.280 our way big dog us looking up to him. 0:14:13.440 --> 0:14:15.400 That was that was crazy to go be on the 0:14:15.480 --> 0:14:19.840 same court at that time period was so good. But 0:14:19.920 --> 0:14:21.720 who is the part of the hardest matchup you had 0:14:21.800 --> 0:14:24.000 in college? Who is that one player called you just 0:14:24.080 --> 0:14:26.000 like that was the college person I played. 0:14:25.800 --> 0:14:29.440 Against out of the Big Ten, just in general, because you. 0:14:29.440 --> 0:14:30.920 Know, y'all had all seasons, y'all was going to the 0:14:30.960 --> 0:14:32.280 tournaments and stuff like that. 0:14:32.920 --> 0:14:33.640 I don't know it's. 0:14:33.520 --> 0:14:36.880 Crazy because we called Steph like he's aid Davison, you 0:14:36.960 --> 0:14:39.560 got to chase something around. He was going crazy, damn. 0:14:40.200 --> 0:14:44.680 Obviously Ever Turner, who was even Turner in college was 0:14:44.800 --> 0:14:46.840 crazy six eleven, I mean six seven point. 0:14:47.440 --> 0:14:47.640 Yeah. 0:14:48.840 --> 0:14:50.640 Man, it's a lot of it's so many, it's it's 0:14:50.680 --> 0:14:53.600 just it's hard as to name. But those couple of people, Isaiah, 0:14:53.800 --> 0:14:56.680 Isaiah Thomas another look, he was going crazy at Washington. 0:14:56.720 --> 0:14:59.800 Oh yeah, I remember Isaiah Thomas. My boy, he was tough. 0:15:01.640 --> 0:15:03.000 But yeah, it was crazy. 0:15:03.160 --> 0:15:06.360 Man, be planning on Twitter kind of like you like 0:15:06.440 --> 0:15:08.160 you kind of like down play Acura, but just be 0:15:08.200 --> 0:15:12.280 fun like yeah, you know, just you know, just walk 0:15:12.320 --> 0:15:13.760 your way to the number two picks. 0:15:16.840 --> 0:15:17.080 The year. 0:15:17.200 --> 0:15:17.720 Come on. Man. 0:15:17.800 --> 0:15:20.800 He was cold, he was unstoppable. He posting people up, 0:15:21.120 --> 0:15:23.520 locking people at six seven he missed mash. 0:15:23.400 --> 0:15:24.120 Yeah he was. 0:15:24.240 --> 0:15:27.720 He was like that for sure. If you wasn't going 0:15:27.720 --> 0:15:28.920 to Doue World, she was gonna go. 0:15:29.480 --> 0:15:34.160 It's crazy. Other schools I like Tennessee, Tennessee, Tennessee. And 0:15:34.240 --> 0:15:37.520 Georgia Tech was other two schools I like Tech. Yeah, 0:15:37.520 --> 0:15:39.600 I like Georgia Tech. Paul Hill. You know, like I said, 0:15:40.240 --> 0:15:41.640 I would left for some familiarity. 0:15:41.760 --> 0:15:43.440 So I like Paul Hood, you. 0:15:43.440 --> 0:15:45.240 Know what I'm saying, Like I probably can relate to him. 0:15:45.280 --> 0:15:48.560 And what I'm saying, you know, doing this thing in 0:15:48.640 --> 0:15:50.680 Georgia text and the guys that went down there will 0:15:50.720 --> 0:15:53.400 buying them, man, you know what I'm saying, Jack and 0:15:53.480 --> 0:15:56.080 them and seeing their guards go out then ball out 0:15:56.360 --> 0:15:58.680 and then Tennessee, I just like their style. They was 0:15:59.120 --> 0:16:01.680 playing fast up timboat trapping. 0:16:03.560 --> 0:16:03.680 You know. 0:16:03.960 --> 0:16:07.040 Brucepurrol he was pretty cool too. So yeah, yeah, so 0:16:08.440 --> 0:16:08.880 that I like. 0:16:09.680 --> 0:16:10.320 But damn. 0:16:12.080 --> 0:16:14.040 I met j J. Then they messed it up. Man. 0:16:15.040 --> 0:16:17.080 They all, man, we should go to school to Yeah, 0:16:17.120 --> 0:16:18.400 so I'm all, perfect. 0:16:18.240 --> 0:16:21.200 Let's go do it. That's a help of that's a 0:16:21.280 --> 0:16:22.560 help incoming class that he together. 0:16:22.720 --> 0:16:25.040 Now they class really changed the whole thing for producing. 0:16:25.080 --> 0:16:28.800 Y'all got it cracking again because Dave Dave t you 0:16:29.000 --> 0:16:33.360 like a distant cousin. They didn't really have it going 0:16:33.560 --> 0:16:37.640 like that, yeah, up and down. Yeah, then y'all came 0:16:37.720 --> 0:16:41.520 and it just turned ever since then a powerhouse really. Yeah, 0:16:41.600 --> 0:16:43.520 and it's crazy cool for Indiana just see. You know 0:16:43.560 --> 0:16:47.480 what I'm saying, Indiana up, Yeah, because are you they 0:16:47.840 --> 0:16:49.640 same thing they had been kind of up and down 0:16:49.680 --> 0:16:51.760 for a little bit, so just the whole state. 0:16:52.240 --> 0:16:53.720 Yeah, represent but. 0:16:53.920 --> 0:16:56.480 Like getting like you and t it's wrong. It's a 0:16:56.520 --> 0:16:58.320 little different than getting like are you getting like old 0:16:58.400 --> 0:17:00.440 deep one them? It was like more reputation for people 0:17:00.480 --> 0:17:04.399 from like city for sure. Now obviously you had a 0:17:04.440 --> 0:17:06.439 crazy career. You know what I'm saying, It's time to declare. 0:17:06.520 --> 0:17:07.480 How was that process for you? 0:17:09.520 --> 0:17:09.680 Man? 0:17:09.760 --> 0:17:12.000 That process is crazy. I mean people always ask you 0:17:12.160 --> 0:17:14.240 to ask me the question, like, man, you always like 0:17:14.400 --> 0:17:15.920 dream going and you always news to go there and 0:17:15.960 --> 0:17:19.280 be I'm like, nah, I was just hoping first, just 0:17:19.320 --> 0:17:22.119 because the oneing else to do is the hoop of 0:17:22.200 --> 0:17:25.000 get in trouble. So I'm saying, I'm fall in love 0:17:25.000 --> 0:17:27.840 with this basketball man. So me for real, I ain't 0:17:27.880 --> 0:17:31.359 really realize I can go to the NBA, probably to 0:17:31.600 --> 0:17:34.840 like my sophomore year. I know, after my sophomore going 0:17:34.920 --> 0:17:36.600 to my junior year. My first couple of years, I'm 0:17:36.640 --> 0:17:38.760 just hooping. I'm just having fun. I'm like, man, if 0:17:38.800 --> 0:17:44.320 I can go over season, be more than I grew up. 0:17:44.400 --> 0:17:48.920 I'll give you a little decent cor ye, give me 0:17:48.920 --> 0:17:59.320 a little Cadillac, Give you a little decent. Yeah, but 0:17:59.480 --> 0:18:02.439 for real, Jeff c was one of Jeff was one 0:18:02.440 --> 0:18:05.680 of the dudes that inspired me for real because so 0:18:05.760 --> 0:18:07.639 I saw him hooping and ball in. I saw him 0:18:07.800 --> 0:18:09.240 like going, get ready to go to the li I'm like, 0:18:09.920 --> 0:18:13.280 dangn these same dudes and I'm hooping against they going 0:18:13.320 --> 0:18:15.040 and my class. You know what I'm saying, Like damn, 0:18:15.359 --> 0:18:16.720 if they can do it, then I'm just saying like 0:18:16.760 --> 0:18:20.440 I can do it too. It wasn't like it wasn't 0:18:20.480 --> 0:18:22.199 like no envia like I was like, I'm like I'm 0:18:22.240 --> 0:18:24.359 better than I'm like, damgn, hold on, but on the 0:18:24.440 --> 0:18:27.600 same car fads of my class et. You know what 0:18:27.600 --> 0:18:29.960 I'm saying. All the all guys that i'm saying was 0:18:30.000 --> 0:18:33.280 in my class. But it's crazy, especially you was was 0:18:33.320 --> 0:18:35.360 a big one. I was like, man, Joe, I'm like, dang, 0:18:36.400 --> 0:18:38.480 you know what I'm saying. From what I'm saying the 0:18:38.640 --> 0:18:40.040 same type of doing like Dan, I feel like, you 0:18:40.080 --> 0:18:42.200 know what I'm saying, I got a shot. So after that, 0:18:42.359 --> 0:18:44.479 like myself Moore going to my junior year, I did 0:18:44.560 --> 0:18:46.879 all the extra stuff before. I wasn't really even lifting 0:18:46.960 --> 0:18:48.960 weights or none of that. I was just just hooping. 0:18:49.320 --> 0:18:52.040 I ain't ever had a trainer before that. Nothing like 0:18:52.440 --> 0:18:54.040 I just I just used to hoop, you know what 0:18:54.080 --> 0:18:56.359 I'm saying. But then once I got somebody that showed 0:18:56.400 --> 0:18:57.720 me how to work out and show me how to 0:18:57.760 --> 0:19:00.520 do stuff, then I was over that. But yeah, but 0:19:00.600 --> 0:19:04.040 it was crazy, man, pre draft. You know, I'm going 0:19:04.119 --> 0:19:07.600 out all the workouts. I had probably about fourteen workouts. 0:19:08.400 --> 0:19:10.080 Let I know, all these things drifting. 0:19:09.840 --> 0:19:13.600 When they got me come in. It's so crazy. You 0:19:13.720 --> 0:19:14.320 got to do it. 0:19:14.600 --> 0:19:16.920 Yeah, you gotta do some of the teams like, man, 0:19:16.960 --> 0:19:18.640 you got the fifteenth figure, I know I ain't going 0:19:18.640 --> 0:19:23.240 to fit. Man, I'm barely on the draft. Boy, yeah, 0:19:23.440 --> 0:19:26.200 you're going ahead working out for another fifteen. But but 0:19:26.280 --> 0:19:29.960 it was cool though. Man, pre draft process and then 0:19:30.440 --> 0:19:33.200 getting drafted is a long night for me. Fifty fifth pick. 0:19:34.760 --> 0:19:36.320 But I feel like everything for a reason. 0:19:36.440 --> 0:19:37.480 So sure, for sure. 0:19:37.520 --> 0:19:39.560 I mean, like you said, to be second round pick 0:19:39.640 --> 0:19:41.840 in half a decade the NBA, it's crazy. It's a 0:19:41.880 --> 0:19:44.000 lot first rounds who fizzle out, don't get to that 0:19:44.040 --> 0:19:44.800 second contrail. 0:19:45.080 --> 0:19:46.080 Yeah, for sure. 0:19:46.760 --> 0:19:46.879 Man. 0:19:46.920 --> 0:19:49.000 You've been in a couple of cities, man, I mean, unbiasedly, 0:19:49.040 --> 0:19:50.000 what's one of your favorite cities? 0:19:50.040 --> 0:19:50.439 You played in. 0:19:51.280 --> 0:19:55.119 Played in Man, it's crazy, but I mean I'm not 0:19:55.320 --> 0:19:58.520 you based. You're laying for the Bulls is crazy. 0:19:58.560 --> 0:20:00.439 I mean, you know, I'm growing up. 0:20:00.480 --> 0:20:02.400 Like I said again, I had a cable, so only 0:20:02.520 --> 0:20:05.120 game came on and ser Bulls and some of the pacers. 0:20:05.200 --> 0:20:07.680 But I'm Channel nine w G. You know what I'm saying, 0:20:07.680 --> 0:20:09.560 im getting all the you know what I'm saying, growing 0:20:09.600 --> 0:20:12.119 up during the mid nineties. Jordan era real. I mean, 0:20:12.160 --> 0:20:15.000 it's just a real. I mean I never even even 0:20:15.119 --> 0:20:16.440 dreamed of that. You know what I'm saying, that I'd 0:20:16.480 --> 0:20:18.720 be playing for the Bulls. You know, you be outside 0:20:18.880 --> 0:20:21.760 Jordan's you doing moves. But you know what I'm saying, 0:20:21.800 --> 0:20:23.159 you never really thought. You thought you have to be 0:20:23.280 --> 0:20:25.120 lucky to make it that far, you know what I'm saying. 0:20:25.160 --> 0:20:27.480 So so that was crazy. All my folks get to 0:20:27.880 --> 0:20:30.920 come see me, come to the games. Uh, tickets with 0:20:30.960 --> 0:20:36.240 created everybody need a ticket but your hotel, everybody trying 0:20:36.240 --> 0:20:38.720 to pull take it. I got a little smart with it. 0:20:38.720 --> 0:20:40.720 I got a little smart with it though, because everybody 0:20:40.800 --> 0:20:44.440 want to come to the game with Lebron You're playing 0:20:44.520 --> 0:20:45.720 the Celtis or something. 0:20:46.000 --> 0:20:46.959 I had to spread it out. 0:20:47.200 --> 0:20:48.800 Yeah, I ain't got nothing for this, but you come 0:20:49.840 --> 0:20:58.879 playing about to play Detroit, you want some you gotta learn, 0:20:58.880 --> 0:21:00.920 you gotta spread them out in these days. So you 0:21:00.960 --> 0:21:01.720 gotta know what I'm saying. 0:21:02.640 --> 0:21:05.880 They were coming to what you're trying to do. Man, 0:21:06.520 --> 0:21:11.560 I got my god. 0:21:12.720 --> 0:21:14.720 But yeah, so uh yeah, I got I got a 0:21:14.720 --> 0:21:17.080 little smart with it after after what I'm saying started out, 0:21:17.160 --> 0:21:18.440 I ain't got none of this, but you come to 0:21:18.440 --> 0:21:21.200 the next week, you free on free on Thursday. You 0:21:21.240 --> 0:21:23.880 know what I'm saying. So but it was cool though, Man, 0:21:24.040 --> 0:21:26.320 everybody come see Washington ball. 0:21:26.440 --> 0:21:29.879 So it was dope for sure. Man, that's that that bulls. 0:21:29.960 --> 0:21:31.920 You know what I'm saying. Crazy seven class again you 0:21:32.000 --> 0:21:33.200 and d ros the same team? 0:21:33.440 --> 0:21:35.600 Oh yeah, that was that was that was That's that's 0:21:35.640 --> 0:21:38.440 crazy to d rose Man another I know seven. I 0:21:38.520 --> 0:21:41.400 ben't know him since middle school. First time we hoved 0:21:41.440 --> 0:21:44.080 together to Crazy that's crazy. It's like first time, Jeff, 0:21:44.359 --> 0:21:46.960 we was in the gym and the remember that it's 0:21:47.040 --> 0:21:50.640 like a little nothing right right. 0:21:52.600 --> 0:21:52.800 Gym. 0:21:55.119 --> 0:21:57.280 Now, I'm telling like the gym was like, oh yeah. 0:21:57.200 --> 0:22:00.640 They had woods sticking up and I don't know where 0:22:00.640 --> 0:22:03.560 they are is at. But d Road. Same thing, man, 0:22:04.560 --> 0:22:06.439 you know him being you know me from being from 0:22:06.560 --> 0:22:09.600 East Chicago, Indiana. I just kind of crazy. I always 0:22:09.640 --> 0:22:12.280 got to explain that to people your first car, like nah, 0:22:12.320 --> 0:22:15.359 it's technically Indiana, but other people they just run with us. 0:22:15.400 --> 0:22:17.040 But this school, I get the best of both worlds. 0:22:17.080 --> 0:22:19.000 I'm on the border, so you get the best. You 0:22:19.000 --> 0:22:20.639 know what I'm saying. I get the best of both worlds. 0:22:20.680 --> 0:22:23.960 And d Roe's only being probably twenty minutes away. We 0:22:24.080 --> 0:22:26.800 was in middle school. First time I saw him. Man, 0:22:26.880 --> 0:22:30.080 he was crazy. What we like seventh going in the 0:22:30.240 --> 0:22:32.920 eighth grade, and I'm telling he them the jumping from 0:22:32.920 --> 0:22:33.640 the free throw line. 0:22:33.960 --> 0:22:34.600 He was crazy. 0:22:34.720 --> 0:22:37.000 And in middle school were on a little sade Joah 0:22:37.000 --> 0:22:39.040 think we like provised on East High School, something little 0:22:39.080 --> 0:22:40.960 like a Zillia. You know you got the gym, you 0:22:41.000 --> 0:22:45.359 got the gym upstairs to the side, man for the 0:22:45.440 --> 0:22:48.760 free throw I'm telling you about. Like now, So I'm thinking, 0:22:48.840 --> 0:22:50.440 so when I'm I'm young, like I said, I haven't 0:22:50.480 --> 0:22:54.160 been out really outside, like I'm always hooping thirty forty 0:22:54.200 --> 0:22:56.880 minute radius and I'm like, I'm thinking, I'm the coldest dude. 0:22:56.880 --> 0:22:59.080 You know what I'm saying. I'm from I saw him. 0:22:59.080 --> 0:23:01.120 I'm like, I went back to the to the crib. 0:23:01.160 --> 0:23:02.720 You know what I'm saying, My look at my neighborhood. 0:23:03.840 --> 0:23:06.160 I gotta just this dude. I'm telling you his whole 0:23:06.240 --> 0:23:08.879 he is the bat. I'm telling like, man, you go 0:23:08.960 --> 0:23:13.360 to go to Lee out of eighth grade and went 0:23:13.440 --> 0:23:15.800 I went back home to my father, daddy, all them. 0:23:15.840 --> 0:23:18.119 I'm like, man, I saw this dude. That was crazy. 0:23:18.200 --> 0:23:20.160 So that was cool for us, you know what I'm saying, 0:23:20.240 --> 0:23:22.160 going way back then to be on the same team. 0:23:22.840 --> 0:23:24.960 I think that's what the craziest parallel is like, even 0:23:25.040 --> 0:23:27.280 for the crib, for like E and Ship, it's just like, 0:23:27.920 --> 0:23:30.159 even if you're not going around no places like these 0:23:30.160 --> 0:23:32.800 are the best niggas everywhere. But they really are though, 0:23:32.880 --> 0:23:34.960 Like it ain't even just you being biased that's the best. No, 0:23:34.960 --> 0:23:37.560 they're better than everybody everywhere everywhere them too. 0:23:37.680 --> 0:23:39.879 Almost going to college together in your class is crazy. 0:23:40.000 --> 0:23:40.240 Still. 0:23:40.400 --> 0:23:41.280 Oh yeah, that's sick. 0:23:41.640 --> 0:23:45.000 I'm playing you streets. Did y'all play me in Streets? 0:23:45.840 --> 0:23:46.080 Yep? 0:23:46.680 --> 0:23:50.159 Play from the Peace Dam Championship. I'm mad they boxing 0:23:50.240 --> 0:23:58.520 won me too, shot my boy, Reggie rose Man. That's 0:23:58.520 --> 0:24:01.159 what I got before the game said he like, he 0:24:01.280 --> 0:24:03.880 can't never say my name right each time. You ain't 0:24:03.920 --> 0:24:06.840 getting off. Today I got some foo you I got something. 0:24:07.000 --> 0:24:11.120 I'm like, I'm just laughing. I'm laid back, all right. Man. 0:24:11.240 --> 0:24:14.800 He won't let me touch the ball. It was crazy, man, 0:24:14.840 --> 0:24:17.639 I'm too that was electric. It's crazy because he offered me. 0:24:17.640 --> 0:24:19.000 He tried to get me come play with them too. 0:24:19.400 --> 0:24:21.600 He yeah, come over here, man, Man, you're gonna be 0:24:21.640 --> 0:24:24.399 crazy and you can shoot, so they gonna get I'm like, nah, 0:24:24.400 --> 0:24:30.280 I ain't enough balls over there. Yeah, enough basketball. 0:24:32.119 --> 0:24:33.520 If you would have played on that team, because we 0:24:33.560 --> 0:24:35.200 played them in a big time final four. 0:24:35.320 --> 0:24:35.639 All right. 0:24:35.800 --> 0:24:37.360 We was beating about like twenty. 0:24:37.720 --> 0:24:40.399 Yeah, every crossed me a half court and dunked on 0:24:40.480 --> 0:24:43.000 this dude name Tommy Freeman right right. 0:24:43.080 --> 0:24:44.840 Boom, crowd went crazy. 0:24:44.880 --> 0:24:48.080 They called the charge. Reggie jumped on the court, got 0:24:48.200 --> 0:24:51.359 a tech with crazy. So you know, Indiana Ship, we 0:24:51.400 --> 0:24:53.080 started kind of like holding the ball a little bit. 0:24:54.600 --> 0:24:57.840 Started going crazy, like we sick of that white boy stuff, 0:24:57.920 --> 0:24:59.440 like they're doing crazy on it. 0:24:59.640 --> 0:25:01.359 So we start trying to hoop and Eric went for 0:25:01.480 --> 0:25:02.720 like forty in the second half. 0:25:02.800 --> 0:25:02.879 Bro. 0:25:03.200 --> 0:25:04.600 They beat us about twenty was up. 0:25:05.520 --> 0:25:07.680 I was like, he was a different monster. Come on, 0:25:09.000 --> 0:25:11.679 not literally out of tenth grade. He could have went 0:25:11.680 --> 0:25:14.040 to the league and averaged fifteen out of twelfth grade 0:25:15.440 --> 0:25:17.440 last two years of high school. He was just he 0:25:17.560 --> 0:25:19.080 was really just was he was just having fun. 0:25:20.280 --> 0:25:21.240 He was already. 0:25:23.600 --> 0:25:24.520 You said the description. 0:25:25.400 --> 0:25:27.920 He could have went to the league sophomore. 0:25:27.960 --> 0:25:31.280 It's crazy, like literally, manep saw like that, like for 0:25:31.840 --> 0:25:32.960 he was for real, he was legit. 0:25:33.200 --> 0:25:35.080 What's the best team you didn't played on? I think 0:25:35.160 --> 0:25:36.879 I know, but it's your career. 0:25:38.400 --> 0:25:46.400 He's best team and ANBA my best team. Oh that's 0:25:46.440 --> 0:25:50.120 hard to say because I mean, my boss, my first 0:25:50.200 --> 0:25:53.480 year was crazy. We played them. I'm gonna really get 0:25:53.520 --> 0:25:55.280 in the game. They might put me in for a 0:25:55.359 --> 0:25:58.000 defensive getting there for three seconds. 0:25:58.880 --> 0:26:02.960 About that, you know what I'm saying, kid, I could 0:26:03.000 --> 0:26:06.200 be out of the twelve. Throw me up for three minutes. 0:26:06.280 --> 0:26:18.080 Come out, you know you know kids, look let me 0:26:18.400 --> 0:26:21.000 on everything, bust something up. 0:26:21.400 --> 0:26:22.000 You know what I'm saying. 0:26:22.040 --> 0:26:22.560 I don't know that. 0:26:23.480 --> 0:26:25.600 It's a processing business. 0:26:26.080 --> 0:26:29.920 Process, bron. 0:26:30.560 --> 0:26:33.040 They might throw me in, you know, doctors, man, throw 0:26:33.119 --> 0:26:37.359 me in into the second quarter for the last forty 0:26:37.440 --> 0:26:40.479 seconds or something like something crazy might being found from here. 0:26:40.600 --> 0:26:42.440 Just throw you little stuff like that. 0:26:42.560 --> 0:26:43.200 But it was crazy. 0:26:43.240 --> 0:26:44.919 But no, my boss was crazy. 0:26:45.040 --> 0:26:47.080 Man, I was crazy. 0:26:47.160 --> 0:26:47.240 Bro. 0:26:47.960 --> 0:26:50.920 The Pelicans thing, yeah, I know, I heard y'all talking 0:26:50.960 --> 0:26:53.680 about that before. Yeah, we all thought we were for sure. 0:26:53.720 --> 0:26:55.760 We all thought we was gonna We thought we had 0:26:55.800 --> 0:26:57.080 a chance to win the chip for sure. 0:26:57.240 --> 0:26:58.959 That's one of the most the teams that don't get 0:26:59.000 --> 0:26:59.680 spoke on enough. 0:27:00.560 --> 0:27:02.800 That team was sick just with Boogie and a d Bro. 0:27:02.920 --> 0:27:04.879 It's like a twin tow. It was crazy like it was. 0:27:05.280 --> 0:27:09.879 And then you had really three combo guards. You know 0:27:09.920 --> 0:27:12.680 what I'm saying. I'm playing a small but I really 0:27:12.760 --> 0:27:15.240 but I really could play the point and two. So 0:27:15.720 --> 0:27:17.439 it's like, you know what I'm saying. It was crazy 0:27:17.480 --> 0:27:20.159 like we had mismatch and then we often guard anybody. 0:27:21.040 --> 0:27:23.040 I heard like, yeah, I was okay switching with Dre. 0:27:23.359 --> 0:27:24.000 I was switching to. 0:27:25.480 --> 0:27:25.760 That's what. 0:27:27.680 --> 0:27:32.399 I play. I can lock up too. But yeah, so 0:27:32.640 --> 0:27:34.520 it was so it was crazy, man. We was playing 0:27:34.600 --> 0:27:37.160 so fast man, so bully and get hurt for show. 0:27:37.200 --> 0:27:42.560 We definitely thought we had We all started clicking, you 0:27:42.600 --> 0:27:45.440 know what I'm saying. Everybody started knowing it rolls start 0:27:45.480 --> 0:27:47.520 you know, you know what it felt like. You ain't 0:27:47.520 --> 0:27:50.520 really even got to talk no more. It's just okay automatic. 0:27:50.600 --> 0:27:52.000 You already know that. 0:27:52.359 --> 0:27:55.240 I used to do that pistol action, set the slip 0:27:55.320 --> 0:27:56.840 the screen. I hate that ship. 0:27:56.840 --> 0:27:59.119 It was crazy because the thing we used to do 0:27:59.200 --> 0:28:03.000 it so fast. People they know it's coming. They know 0:28:03.080 --> 0:28:03.480 it's coming. 0:28:03.560 --> 0:28:03.720 Man. 0:28:04.040 --> 0:28:06.520 He used to push off and get the little pass though. 0:28:07.400 --> 0:28:09.919 Drew was hello good at that ship. Be like, Bro, 0:28:10.240 --> 0:28:13.560 they're playing too fast teams, the players that the man 0:28:13.640 --> 0:28:16.280 slow down. Like man, we used to be flying. It 0:28:16.480 --> 0:28:18.440 was so crazy. He was playing so fast sometimes. But 0:28:18.720 --> 0:28:22.440 bug will touch the ball for like five possession. Man, y'all, 0:28:24.600 --> 0:28:30.199 y'all up the court. He he gonna give us one 0:28:30.240 --> 0:28:32.800 of two was one of the two touches. Man, y'all 0:28:33.680 --> 0:28:35.080 y'all flying like ship. 0:28:37.320 --> 0:28:38.240 Bro for sure. 0:28:38.360 --> 0:28:40.520 Man, that's great. That was fun. And to hear y'all 0:28:40.520 --> 0:28:42.200 talk about he's still doing it to this day. 0:28:42.360 --> 0:28:45.120 To see Drew, how they still killing like start off 0:28:45.240 --> 0:28:48.000 even with y'all still can see I mean he in Boston, 0:28:48.120 --> 0:28:50.800 Like it's just crazy to hear like all the stuff 0:28:50.840 --> 0:28:52.800 that y'all talked about, and now to keep seeing it. 0:28:52.840 --> 0:28:55.280 Then people start technology because he was back when Drew 0:28:55.320 --> 0:28:56.800 went crazy and locked up down. 0:28:57.240 --> 0:29:00.960 Oh yeah, yeah, man, that was sick. That was I 0:29:01.040 --> 0:29:02.680 mean Drew, he wanted all the smoke. He and dun 0:29:02.840 --> 0:29:03.280 no smoke. 0:29:03.400 --> 0:29:04.040 You know what I'm saying. 0:29:04.040 --> 0:29:07.880 That's one thing, you know, gall on the team with him, 0:29:07.880 --> 0:29:10.640 the best player on every team, Like it is either 0:29:10.680 --> 0:29:13.600 you're gonna bust you gonna you're gonna you're gonna give it, 0:29:13.640 --> 0:29:15.640 You're gonna mess him up, he gonna mess you. It 0:29:15.720 --> 0:29:17.200 ain't no in between. You know what I'm saying. That 0:29:17.280 --> 0:29:20.080 he coming at you, you going at him. So that's 0:29:20.160 --> 0:29:22.040 one thing each and every night. You know what I'm saying. 0:29:22.080 --> 0:29:23.960 He's a he's a competitor and that's my guy. That's 0:29:24.000 --> 0:29:27.640 probably one of the one of my one of my 0:29:27.880 --> 0:29:30.560 teammates I talked to the most. That's the league. 0:29:31.040 --> 0:29:35.200 Good dude, what you're gonna be here? Drew Drew. 0:29:41.680 --> 0:29:41.920 Cold. 0:29:42.760 --> 0:29:45.280 Yeah, people don't understand, Like even man think about what 0:29:45.360 --> 0:29:48.400 he's in Philly, like man, how cold he was like man, 0:29:48.520 --> 0:29:52.040 Handles was crazy. Man. He used to be so athletic 0:29:52.200 --> 0:29:55.200 like man. He used to take off with the leven Man. 0:29:56.160 --> 0:29:58.400 Drew Cold just done to see him still doing the 0:29:58.440 --> 0:30:01.760 same ship, still playing, are still killing, still locking people up? 0:30:01.840 --> 0:30:03.280 So you got some good knees. 0:30:03.840 --> 0:30:05.960 I don't know what he ran. 0:30:05.880 --> 0:30:13.800 Out of the round playing under the room. Slow down, bro, 0:30:14.040 --> 0:30:18.080 it's not one. Mike Colley still in. 0:30:18.120 --> 0:30:20.680 The league, still under the. 0:30:22.240 --> 0:30:24.840 Under the round players challenge for sure? 0:30:24.920 --> 0:30:25.440 Right about that? 0:30:27.760 --> 0:30:30.200 I gotta ask you, man, obviously you still still up 0:30:30.200 --> 0:30:32.040 the game heavily. Who's some of the younger guards you like? 0:30:33.240 --> 0:30:35.800 You say young some of the young guards you like guards? 0:30:36.520 --> 0:30:40.440 I mean, man, you name it's crazy shave shake go crazy? 0:30:41.240 --> 0:30:44.120 Oh man, say shake go crazy. You can't even speed 0:30:44.200 --> 0:30:45.840 him up like he's being slow motion. 0:30:46.040 --> 0:30:48.280 He's so crafty. You know, you know what I'm saying, 0:30:48.320 --> 0:30:52.440 get them files. Obviously you got job. I mean, you 0:30:52.440 --> 0:30:54.960 know what I'm saying. Forget about Joab. You know you 0:30:55.000 --> 0:30:56.840 know what I'm saying, out of say out of mind. 0:30:56.880 --> 0:30:59.800 Everybody just keeps forgetting about. But man, he a beast. 0:31:00.040 --> 0:31:03.080 I mean, I've got Maxie. Nobody expected for him to 0:31:03.800 --> 0:31:06.400 be as good as he is. He's cold, Yeah, MAXI 0:31:06.400 --> 0:31:07.400 you know what I'm saying. For him to do what 0:31:07.520 --> 0:31:10.720 you do, it's crazy, but yeah, it's just a man. 0:31:10.760 --> 0:31:14.320 It's a whole bunch of guards. Them call get my 0:31:14.400 --> 0:31:17.160 boy colder shut out. Just that's my boy, my boy cole. 0:31:18.160 --> 0:31:20.680 He right here in Orlando and to show some love. 0:31:21.640 --> 0:31:21.840 Yeah. 0:31:21.920 --> 0:31:25.760 Man looking good too, Yeah, Orlando A they gonna be 0:31:25.800 --> 0:31:32.560 something recking with maybe mano man wow man. Oh yeah, 0:31:33.080 --> 0:31:35.520 they got a nice young corps. Man. They got a 0:31:35.600 --> 0:31:38.120 lot of basketball too. That's that's that's kind of tough. 0:31:38.320 --> 0:31:41.080 You know what, that big, those big lineups. You know 0:31:41.120 --> 0:31:46.080 what I'm saying. Everybody everybody six six is taller. They 0:31:46.200 --> 0:31:48.960 was starting Marfa Markel at the at the point he's 0:31:48.960 --> 0:31:52.120 six five six six and everybody else six a the taller. 0:31:52.160 --> 0:31:52.320 Man. 0:31:52.360 --> 0:31:55.880 That's tough. They all locking up because molds too. Man, 0:31:56.200 --> 0:31:57.120 he's doing his thing. 0:31:57.120 --> 0:32:00.320 So he'd be cold. He got the extension to be Yeah. 0:32:00.920 --> 0:32:04.240 Yeah, that's nice. First time coach. You know what I'm saying. 0:32:04.800 --> 0:32:07.040 Hell yeah, them being you know what I'm saying, one 0:32:07.080 --> 0:32:09.520 of us. That's that's pretty cool because we now get 0:32:09.600 --> 0:32:09.920 that same. 0:32:10.200 --> 0:32:12.200 So that's that's because a lot of times you see, 0:32:12.320 --> 0:32:15.720 like you see situations, most of black coaches getting really 0:32:15.720 --> 0:32:17.840 tough situations. They gotta turned around the whole bunch before 0:32:17.880 --> 0:32:19.440 they get a chance to even with the benefits and 0:32:19.680 --> 0:32:20.720 them turn around so quick. 0:32:20.840 --> 0:32:23.400 Yeah, that was a turnaround. I mean a lot of 0:32:23.400 --> 0:32:25.200 people on the outside probably won't look for them to 0:32:25.640 --> 0:32:28.640 be as good as quick as they were. But when 0:32:28.680 --> 0:32:31.840 I came back and play here was that, you know, 0:32:32.200 --> 0:32:34.320 something like that. But man, I'm like, yeah, they they're 0:32:34.320 --> 0:32:37.040 gonna be all right. They got a squad, They're gonna 0:32:37.080 --> 0:32:39.400 be good going forward. They probably gonna be like right 0:32:39.480 --> 0:32:41.760 behind Boston next year if they take that next week 0:32:41.920 --> 0:32:45.840 in Boston, if they take that next they got the 0:32:46.280 --> 0:32:47.640 like you said, they got the big line up. 0:32:47.640 --> 0:32:51.360 They can switch one through five. They got everybody talented and. 0:32:51.680 --> 0:32:52.360 They play together. 0:32:52.600 --> 0:32:56.520 Yeah. Take They need a bucket out if they need it. 0:32:56.560 --> 0:32:58.400 They need a bucket I mean if I take that 0:32:58.520 --> 0:33:01.720 next leap and just become the guy guy, Yeah, they 0:33:02.000 --> 0:33:02.480 they got it. 0:33:02.640 --> 0:33:04.440 They just need a little bit more shooting. Yeah, a 0:33:04.480 --> 0:33:05.040 little bit more. 0:33:05.680 --> 0:33:07.440 A lot of people saying Blake Monk would look perfect 0:33:07.480 --> 0:33:11.200 on that team. They need a guard Hooper score. Maybe 0:33:11.240 --> 0:33:13.240 not Malik exactly, but they need a guard Hooper score 0:33:13.280 --> 0:33:13.600 for sure. 0:33:14.840 --> 0:33:16.880 Can go get them a dub a night though they. 0:33:16.800 --> 0:33:19.080 Don't really need to guard and score. Somebody's make some shots. 0:33:21.280 --> 0:33:21.920 Get your solid. 0:33:23.880 --> 0:33:26.200 They need saying about somebody hit them timely shots, like 0:33:26.240 --> 0:33:28.360 when you need somebody make a big shot, big play, 0:33:29.320 --> 0:33:30.280 but you can depend. 0:33:30.040 --> 0:33:31.480 Onlik need the peel now. 0:33:35.680 --> 0:33:38.880 I don't want you know him and with my favorite 0:33:39.160 --> 0:33:41.720 back for ever. They need like an Austin Reeves. 0:33:43.240 --> 0:33:45.480 The magic they ain't gonna get, but they need like 0:33:46.080 --> 0:33:48.680 they can make shots and he can still handle the 0:33:48.760 --> 0:33:49.320 ball stuff. 0:33:50.000 --> 0:33:50.440 That's true. 0:33:50.520 --> 0:33:51.360 They not getting him. 0:33:51.680 --> 0:33:55.320 Yeah, that's what the player. They need, somebody like I 0:33:55.400 --> 0:34:01.160 mean with the purpose. Milik might be too much. You 0:34:01.240 --> 0:34:06.360 need a ball brope with you, bro, somebody has the 0:34:06.440 --> 0:34:10.080 cheese would have been nice to them, perfect cheese. Oh man, 0:34:10.719 --> 0:34:13.799 so good. Somebody can get a bug at timely twenty 0:34:13.880 --> 0:34:16.799 every night and get eighteen to twenty when it matter 0:34:17.160 --> 0:34:18.400 and and it looks explosive. 0:34:18.400 --> 0:34:18.560 You know what. 0:34:18.560 --> 0:34:21.239 I'm like, somebody like him, be per, But I mean 0:34:21.600 --> 0:34:25.359 you might be able to get like Bogie Bogie. Oh yeah, 0:34:25.440 --> 0:34:26.680 you gotta be nice. 0:34:29.239 --> 0:34:29.439 Nice. 0:34:30.200 --> 0:34:33.960 I got to get him healthy, healthy, yeah, Bogy nice man. 0:34:34.160 --> 0:34:37.000 Yeah. Because the Inastern Conference is that that young talent 0:34:37.120 --> 0:34:38.920 is the day up there. 0:34:39.760 --> 0:34:47.360 They got a chance. It's pretty weak over there. Miwaking 0:34:47.400 --> 0:34:51.440 with her mention her now when they was what the 0:34:51.520 --> 0:34:52.480 patient was moving on. 0:34:56.880 --> 0:35:00.480 I don't get I don't care. I don't care. I 0:35:00.480 --> 0:35:01.920 ain't I'm not rolling with the Pacings. 0:35:02.000 --> 0:35:07.880 This year's that ship for gott enjoyed my season, bron. 0:35:09.880 --> 0:35:12.400 G Bro triggered me. 0:35:12.480 --> 0:35:14.560 Bro had for a couple of years. 0:35:14.840 --> 0:35:19.440 Man, I have year. I love I love playing for 0:35:20.000 --> 0:35:22.799 that was the best year of my life. But man, 0:35:24.200 --> 0:35:27.840 show you say. 0:35:29.400 --> 0:35:33.200 Like I have freedom. 0:35:33.280 --> 0:35:33.360 Bro? 0:35:34.080 --> 0:35:37.680 You know you got freedom. I freedom with the Hawks, 0:35:37.719 --> 0:35:41.279 Bro Spurs. Bro, you had to do it a certain way. 0:35:42.480 --> 0:35:46.200 Yeah, your career I got Bro. They was like, you 0:35:46.239 --> 0:35:48.960 could do whatever. You just past the PG after that, 0:35:49.040 --> 0:35:49.440 you can do what. 0:35:49.600 --> 0:35:51.200 You say on the mic and keeping it real. 0:35:51.320 --> 0:35:53.680 Right now, I'm keeping it real. I'm talking far. 0:35:54.560 --> 0:35:59.960 Off the field, he said. I don't take it. 0:36:01.600 --> 0:36:03.920 Though, I'll be fucking with you like I even got it. 0:36:04.000 --> 0:36:05.560 I'm like, Bro, why do you want to come here? 0:36:05.760 --> 0:36:08.520 Like He's love Indianapolis throw and through. So I know 0:36:08.640 --> 0:36:11.080 he was going playing for the patients. Eventually, you know 0:36:11.239 --> 0:36:11.719 that was cool. 0:36:11.800 --> 0:36:12.320 So what made you? 0:36:12.360 --> 0:36:14.360 I saw you got forty four to was. 0:36:16.360 --> 0:36:19.680 So yeah, you think it's about forty four. 0:36:20.440 --> 0:36:22.480 When I was in high school with forty four because 0:36:22.480 --> 0:36:26.240 I wanted the biggest shorts and then like all my friends, 0:36:26.480 --> 0:36:28.719 I grew up on the West side Indianapolis, so like 0:36:29.200 --> 0:36:30.719 it was to represent them so I could do that. 0:36:32.920 --> 0:36:47.640 Wow, man, all the top definitely was fast. 0:36:49.360 --> 0:36:52.440 He definitely was. It was crazy. 0:36:52.560 --> 0:36:54.879 So man, funny story, my brother was at the game 0:36:55.000 --> 0:36:57.719 and he nine years old of me, so he used 0:36:57.760 --> 0:36:59.360 to get to come see me play a lot and 0:36:59.480 --> 0:37:01.840 he saw me playing against y'all and the game we 0:37:01.920 --> 0:37:04.000 got into it. Like, Bro, you know they're from then. 0:37:04.040 --> 0:37:05.719 Now it's a whole It might be a whole bunch of. 0:37:07.920 --> 0:37:12.920 Like the like get me a jumped. That was cool though. Man, 0:37:13.239 --> 0:37:13.840 that's the story. 0:37:13.920 --> 0:37:16.920 Man, that's crazy, go way back, Man, that's crazy. Man 0:37:17.200 --> 0:37:19.839 shout to the seven draft class now Indianada guys. Man, 0:37:19.880 --> 0:37:21.760 like I said, Man, we give your flasers. You definitely 0:37:21.760 --> 0:37:23.080 one of the people who desire about one of the 0:37:23.160 --> 0:37:25.520 most outther writed players. It does not get talked about 0:37:25.520 --> 0:37:28.200 what we talk about players from from Indiana going crazy. 0:37:28.239 --> 0:37:30.680 Bro sire, I bring them up Favery time. 0:37:32.600 --> 0:37:32.880 Ahead. 0:37:33.000 --> 0:37:35.080 I'm saying, I just bring him up every time, him Eric, 0:37:35.320 --> 0:37:37.239 all them tails on the Indiana All Stars. I talk 0:37:37.280 --> 0:37:39.360 about it all the time because I was like it 0:37:39.520 --> 0:37:41.520 was no team better than us and ever come out 0:37:41.520 --> 0:37:42.360 of Indian All Stars. 0:37:42.400 --> 0:37:46.960 Bro. Everybody close, know, so you know what's crazy? 0:37:47.280 --> 0:37:49.799 You know the Junior All Stars play to Senior All Star. 0:37:50.760 --> 0:37:52.480 We we was killing. 0:37:54.840 --> 0:37:57.359 Year two years older. Were killing them like I'm about 0:37:57.440 --> 0:37:58.960 not even close, like killing them. 0:37:59.120 --> 0:38:00.479 It's crazy week close. 0:38:00.800 --> 0:38:02.640 And that was Michaels hold on niggas. 0:38:02.880 --> 0:38:05.000 Yeah ye don't want those smoke, yell, don't want those smoke. 0:38:06.719 --> 0:38:08.680 I played, they played, but they smacked. 0:38:10.200 --> 0:38:12.239 It was like three games, like a North South and 0:38:12.360 --> 0:38:12.680 it was like. 0:38:13.120 --> 0:38:15.320 Our our senior year. I player our junior year. I 0:38:15.600 --> 0:38:18.439 got in trouble. I even play. 0:38:19.920 --> 0:38:27.400 Yeah we murdered, yeah yeah yeah play. They beat them 0:38:27.480 --> 0:38:30.360 like fifty he didn't have to go to sleep. 0:38:31.920 --> 0:38:44.520 Running around the hotel. Yeah yeah, fregating. That was our 0:38:44.560 --> 0:38:45.640 pre game in c L BRO. 0:38:47.719 --> 0:38:50.080 Oh yeah, that's crazy. 0:38:50.120 --> 0:38:52.040 I never forget this day. I was like, all these 0:38:52.160 --> 0:38:52.839 dudes is cool. 0:38:52.840 --> 0:38:52.960 Bro. 0:38:53.040 --> 0:38:54.040 The my homies for life. 0:38:54.080 --> 0:38:54.160 BRO. 0:38:54.800 --> 0:38:56.560 That I had one of the most fun times though 0:38:56.640 --> 0:38:59.040 fund stands playing basketball and down All Star man, we 0:38:59.120 --> 0:39:01.440 had a ball. We had to make our own fun too, 0:39:01.480 --> 0:39:04.640 because we had some games. I was in Evansville and 0:39:04.760 --> 0:39:08.200 I know we've been in before we one time it 0:39:08.280 --> 0:39:09.120 was like Martinsville. 0:39:09.280 --> 0:39:09.640 We were like. 0:39:12.000 --> 0:39:14.360 Having Mars is crazy. 0:39:14.400 --> 0:39:16.879 Now some places. Brother, I was like, I ain't hold 0:39:16.920 --> 0:39:19.160 on y'all, y'all might be. 0:39:20.640 --> 0:39:20.920 Away. 0:39:20.960 --> 0:39:22.680 I'm away up north, so I don't want used to 0:39:22.719 --> 0:39:25.040 going to some places. So we know what I'm saying 0:39:25.160 --> 0:39:27.520 over the story. We made our own fun, like no 0:39:27.640 --> 0:39:29.880 matter what we went every every city we went to, 0:39:30.040 --> 0:39:31.320 we was we was clowning. 0:39:31.360 --> 0:39:31.480 Man. 0:39:31.520 --> 0:39:32.879 We had a we had a ball. We had we're 0:39:32.920 --> 0:39:35.320 making our own parties and we it was crazy. 0:39:35.760 --> 0:39:37.680 That's it's a good thing. 0:39:37.719 --> 0:39:38.720 We didn't have no cameras. 0:39:43.320 --> 0:39:44.279 We had so much fun. 0:39:45.680 --> 0:39:48.600 Those stories that man, if you want that and you 0:39:49.000 --> 0:39:49.719 want to know about it. 0:39:49.800 --> 0:39:51.120 But we was clowning. 0:39:51.600 --> 0:39:52.120 We had the ball. 0:39:52.280 --> 0:39:55.839 So I remember you'll came bro. Your freshman year, y'all 0:39:55.880 --> 0:39:57.680 played ripple came down. 0:39:58.280 --> 0:40:00.440 You remember that. That's I knew. 0:40:00.760 --> 0:40:05.560 That's what I used to behave. But you killed yeah 0:40:07.000 --> 0:40:09.880 this nigga. Yeah, walk in the gym, you feel me? 0:40:10.040 --> 0:40:13.840 You you swaggy. I had the big ass weekend. So 0:40:14.239 --> 0:40:15.040 they came in like a. 0:40:15.080 --> 0:40:20.959 College three years look college, all right. 0:40:21.560 --> 0:40:23.640 They put my nigger the power four bro. 0:40:24.000 --> 0:40:26.279 Damn, that's great man. He yeah, he take it away back. 0:40:26.400 --> 0:40:28.680 You play power four, Bro? You had a you had 0:40:28.719 --> 0:40:30.120 like twenty and fifteen Bro. 0:40:30.400 --> 0:40:33.680 Crazy, you know what's crazy? That was my second high 0:40:33.719 --> 0:40:34.279 school game. 0:40:35.040 --> 0:40:37.360 Yeah, I say I was always because we used to 0:40:37.400 --> 0:40:38.000 pull up on you. 0:40:38.480 --> 0:40:40.960 Yeah, that was only my second. One's crazy. So you 0:40:41.120 --> 0:40:44.239 say that because at first I thought I was gonna 0:40:44.239 --> 0:40:45.920 be I thought it was gonna be six eight, like 0:40:46.000 --> 0:40:49.799 he said, I was the same height. Yeah, grow that much. 0:40:49.880 --> 0:40:51.680 I was already like six to two. You know what 0:40:51.719 --> 0:40:53.799 I'm saying. Come on the first year and I'm saying 0:40:53.800 --> 0:40:56.680 I'm handling. But so I used to see teammate Tmger 0:40:56.719 --> 0:41:01.600 is my favorite player about man, but Mac was my 0:41:01.640 --> 0:41:04.680 favorite player. Was he was my favorite player growing up. So, man, 0:41:04.719 --> 0:41:07.919 I always was like a big guard. Since I'm sixth grade, 0:41:07.920 --> 0:41:10.959 you know what I'm saying. I'm five five ten, sixth 0:41:11.040 --> 0:41:14.000 grade point and I'm saying point forward, So I'm saying 0:41:14.000 --> 0:41:15.360 I thought I was. I thought I was gonna be 0:41:15.719 --> 0:41:17.360 six eight, So I'm saying I thought would be like 0:41:17.400 --> 0:41:18.040 a point foward. 0:41:18.160 --> 0:41:19.480 So it's crazy, that's what I said. 0:41:19.480 --> 0:41:26.640 I said, Damn, he played just like me. The first 0:41:27.080 --> 0:41:28.880 forward with the light on it. 0:41:31.000 --> 0:41:31.880 That's why you did the. 0:41:36.680 --> 0:41:42.239 Like, yeah, so when did you start playing guard? 0:41:42.320 --> 0:41:42.520 Yeah? 0:41:42.719 --> 0:41:44.080 See though, so it's. 0:41:44.040 --> 0:41:47.239 Crazy, like you said. By the time he saw me playing, 0:41:47.239 --> 0:41:48.600 I mean, he was like, man, he's playing the point. 0:41:48.640 --> 0:41:51.040 But I started transfer once I saw one growing no more, 0:41:51.040 --> 0:41:54.759 I'm like, hold up, just really really like my freshman year, 0:41:55.680 --> 0:41:58.239 I started trying, like hold on, I ain't growing no more. 0:41:58.600 --> 0:41:59.880 I was six to two at the start of the. 0:42:00.239 --> 0:42:00.680 End of the year. 0:42:00.680 --> 0:42:01.319 I'm still sick. 0:42:02.800 --> 0:42:03.920 I'm still six to so. 0:42:04.520 --> 0:42:04.680 Man. 0:42:04.719 --> 0:42:08.480 After that, I gotta get my guards skilled straight. It's crazy, 0:42:08.480 --> 0:42:12.000 and I couldn't. I couldn't even shoot threes then if 0:42:12.080 --> 0:42:15.000 pose game after getting too the whole I had like 0:42:15.040 --> 0:42:18.640 a little wire shot. But I had my like my godfather, 0:42:18.840 --> 0:42:21.520 coach Bobby Mouse. He took me under his wing and 0:42:21.880 --> 0:42:25.319 you know what I'm saying, and he's like man like, man, 0:42:25.320 --> 0:42:26.480 if you want to have a chance to go to 0:42:26.520 --> 0:42:28.120 the lead, you gotta you gotta be a guard, and 0:42:28.120 --> 0:42:29.080 you gotta learn how to shoot. 0:42:29.480 --> 0:42:29.640 Man. 0:42:29.680 --> 0:42:32.360 He used to come get me like six o'clock in 0:42:32.400 --> 0:42:34.960 the morning and bring me to the gym, had me 0:42:35.080 --> 0:42:37.920 doing form shooting and all that changed my whole change 0:42:38.000 --> 0:42:41.560 my whole shot. And man, that was bid you know 0:42:41.600 --> 0:42:44.600 what I'm saying, so credit, Yeah, I'm in death to 0:42:44.719 --> 0:42:45.160 him forever. 0:42:45.320 --> 0:42:46.799 So he was a dog. Bro. 0:42:51.000 --> 0:42:54.000 I used to always signs of high school, always look 0:42:54.080 --> 0:42:55.600 forward to coming to Indy. You know what I'm saying, 0:42:55.680 --> 0:42:57.960 coming out there the hoop, that's all the teams. So 0:42:58.480 --> 0:43:00.600 that's crazy stressing. 0:43:01.120 --> 0:43:09.640 I was a scout early seventh once he make it out, 0:43:09.760 --> 0:43:14.880 that's the tig We used to go to the Chicago 0:43:15.000 --> 0:43:16.799 play and I had people out there. I'm like, who 0:43:16.880 --> 0:43:20.759 these niggas is living like this because yeah what I said, 0:43:20.920 --> 0:43:25.520 they finish break nigga, take it out the game. 0:43:27.120 --> 0:43:28.920 Yeah, you come to the man, You come out high 0:43:28.920 --> 0:43:31.759 school games crazy, man, like I Bro, I hold all 0:43:31.840 --> 0:43:34.520 our neighborhoods was behind us, Like you come to a game, 0:43:34.600 --> 0:43:37.560 the whole bottom sections, all dudes from neighborhood. They're talking 0:43:37.680 --> 0:43:39.440 crazy and ye arena. 0:43:40.080 --> 0:43:42.640 Yeah yeah, the hardest high school gym that we played in. 0:43:42.760 --> 0:43:42.880 Bro. 0:43:43.160 --> 0:43:43.879 Yeah it was tough. 0:43:43.960 --> 0:43:47.480 It was said before, Yeah like that was y'all know. 0:43:47.560 --> 0:43:50.000 Yeah, y'all know. Came up to Willie Fraser. 0:43:52.160 --> 0:43:56.040 Yeah, I'm tapped my big bros for sure. 0:43:57.920 --> 0:44:00.400 For sure. Man, listen man, we appreciate at your rock 0:44:00.440 --> 0:44:02.640 wet man we gotta do this again. Man, Yeah, we 0:44:02.680 --> 0:44:03.359 gotta do this again. 0:44:03.400 --> 0:44:03.520 Man. 0:44:03.520 --> 0:44:06.440 We gotta get like shopping it with the homie for sure. Man. 0:44:06.480 --> 0:44:08.359 Oh yeah, Man, next time I gotta come. I gotta 0:44:08.400 --> 0:44:11.080 come nowt town man, come to come through. 0:44:11.200 --> 0:44:12.520 Man. I love man. 0:44:12.920 --> 0:44:13.719 What you got going on? 0:44:13.920 --> 0:44:14.040 Man? 0:44:14.080 --> 0:44:16.279 You want to speak on anything you got ahead or 0:44:16.560 --> 0:44:18.560 what you're doing now? Any new business visits you want 0:44:18.560 --> 0:44:18.960 to speak on? 0:44:19.640 --> 0:44:23.000 Oh yeah, for sure. I like all moneybody want to 0:44:23.080 --> 0:44:32.279 invest in, saying your money is to bring it to me. Yeah, 0:44:32.280 --> 0:44:34.680 We're gonna triple your money now, man. But you know 0:44:34.719 --> 0:44:37.600 what I'm saying, just transitioning to the other side, going 0:44:37.600 --> 0:44:41.440 on two years being out a new tours the end hooping, 0:44:41.480 --> 0:44:43.600 probably my last two three. 0:44:43.640 --> 0:44:44.600 I'm like it's. 0:44:44.480 --> 0:44:46.480 Winding down, you know what I'm saying. 0:44:46.480 --> 0:44:48.880 What I'm gonna do next? Like i' went for free agency. 0:44:49.520 --> 0:44:52.080 Uh. Before I went to New Orleans, I had probably 0:44:52.200 --> 0:44:54.640 like half the league called me, had probably like fourteen 0:44:54.760 --> 0:44:55.440 teams called me. 0:44:56.080 --> 0:44:56.279 Man. 0:44:56.320 --> 0:44:58.960 After I left New Orleans, I had probably like three 0:44:59.040 --> 0:45:03.359 teams called then I went to Phoenix. After I left 0:45:03.400 --> 0:45:06.839 Phoenix about one to two tail Okay, yeah, wear down. 0:45:07.239 --> 0:45:09.759 I started seeing that trend man, So like, let me 0:45:09.800 --> 0:45:13.160 make sure I'm saying. I get my saying, get all 0:45:13.200 --> 0:45:15.160 my cheese, you know what I'm saying, say my future. 0:45:15.320 --> 0:45:17.719 So I started getting into some First I started doing 0:45:17.800 --> 0:45:20.640 real estate just you know what I'm saying, regular single 0:45:20.800 --> 0:45:22.680 flipping homes and stuff like that. Then I got to 0:45:22.800 --> 0:45:27.239 some commercial real estate. One of my coolest projects. I 0:45:27.280 --> 0:45:30.560 got to do aviation development in Dallas. That's pretty cool, 0:45:32.080 --> 0:45:34.760 you know. So, you know, just transition into that business 0:45:34.800 --> 0:45:38.120 side that's been I've been pretty cool, you know, and 0:45:38.600 --> 0:45:41.480 you know, hey, man, it's it's a blessing. Gotta keep 0:45:41.480 --> 0:45:43.600 it going, you know what I'm saying. But also I 0:45:43.680 --> 0:45:45.440 might try to do something basketball. I want to try 0:45:45.480 --> 0:45:48.480 to you know, getting maybe to some front office type 0:45:48.520 --> 0:45:51.719 stuff exact. You know what I'm saying, Get my suit 0:45:51.760 --> 0:45:57.040 and tied. Now, I don't need a man. 0:45:59.640 --> 0:46:04.279 Regular, don't come out, don't dress like I did. I 0:46:04.400 --> 0:46:07.680 pulled up like this to work. I was out of pocket. 0:46:08.280 --> 0:46:08.360 Up. 0:46:08.560 --> 0:46:10.040 Yeah, I was like, you got some of this story. 0:46:10.640 --> 0:46:13.319 We got to what happened. I was working for the Hawks. Man, 0:46:13.960 --> 0:46:16.680 I was a scout. My first meeting, you have a 0:46:16.840 --> 0:46:19.400 six hour day. I pulled up in the outfit like this, 0:46:19.600 --> 0:46:21.879 everybody else came with polos. 0:46:22.360 --> 0:46:26.360 So I was still in hoop mode, you. 0:46:26.400 --> 0:46:26.759 Know what I mean. 0:46:26.760 --> 0:46:29.279 I'm still thinking I'm the guy like about to walk in. 0:46:29.440 --> 0:46:31.600 We got to chill to do these meetings, and I'm 0:46:31.600 --> 0:46:33.680 forgetting that I'm on the other side of the basketball. 0:46:33.760 --> 0:46:35.640 Now I'm in the front office. I don't get on 0:46:35.680 --> 0:46:37.800 the court. So I was all out of pocket. I 0:46:37.840 --> 0:46:40.319 felt so out of place. I'm looking at everybody. I'm 0:46:40.320 --> 0:46:42.560 trying to get up and get water and like so 0:46:42.680 --> 0:46:44.439 they want like sit in the back so they won't 0:46:44.480 --> 0:46:46.719 notice me. But nah, I was out of pocket. But 0:46:46.760 --> 0:46:49.759 I knew that wasn't I knew it was for me. 0:46:49.920 --> 0:46:51.480 That's what that was your first I mean out saw 0:46:51.560 --> 0:46:53.480 the Mars dress, first time geting drunk. Yeah, that was 0:46:53.520 --> 0:46:56.560 my first job was working at the grocery store bro. 0:46:56.760 --> 0:46:57.720 So I ain't really. 0:46:58.040 --> 0:47:00.640 Fastball a job to me. It was like yeah, saying 0:47:00.640 --> 0:47:02.879 we would have did for free, right right. But working 0:47:02.920 --> 0:47:05.200 in the front office, I was like, dang right, I 0:47:05.280 --> 0:47:07.080 tell you all the time, I ain't make it playing better. 0:47:07.080 --> 0:47:08.920 I'll be hoping at the Boys and Girls Club anyway. 0:47:09.120 --> 0:47:10.879 Yeah, just just for fun. 0:47:11.600 --> 0:47:14.080 But yeah, man, I said, you know, I just try 0:47:14.120 --> 0:47:15.960 to you know what I'm saying. Obviously I love basketball 0:47:15.960 --> 0:47:19.640 and always mentoring young guys and guys is in college 0:47:19.719 --> 0:47:22.000 guys that you know what I'm saying, that in the 0:47:22.120 --> 0:47:24.640 league still, so I'm like and I'm watching all the games, 0:47:24.640 --> 0:47:26.640 so like, man, why not try to know what I'm saying, 0:47:26.640 --> 0:47:28.680 stick around the game and you know, being a player 0:47:28.880 --> 0:47:32.120 and going through every step. Like I was a starter 0:47:32.320 --> 0:47:36.520 for four five years, came off the bench for three 0:47:36.680 --> 0:47:39.879 four years. They had two years where I was kind 0:47:39.880 --> 0:47:43.560 of playing, really not playing. So what I'm saying, I 0:47:43.600 --> 0:47:46.440 didn't got the taste of everything in the league. So 0:47:46.880 --> 0:47:48.680 why not try to give back being a player. They 0:47:48.719 --> 0:47:51.920 need more more players, more guys like us that I 0:47:52.040 --> 0:47:53.879 understand what's going on and we can't know what I'm saying, 0:47:53.920 --> 0:47:56.560 relate to the younger guys now because guys coming in 0:47:56.560 --> 0:47:58.800 at nineteen like my first year, like yeah he was 0:47:58.880 --> 0:48:01.279 on the old team too, but my first year on 0:48:01.320 --> 0:48:03.760 the team maybe had like eight dudes is like thirty 0:48:03.800 --> 0:48:04.520 three years older. 0:48:04.840 --> 0:48:05.399 You know what I'm saying. 0:48:05.520 --> 0:48:08.600 I'm in Boston, so now the lead like younger, and 0:48:08.719 --> 0:48:10.399 you know what I'm saying, just try to bridge that gap. 0:48:10.440 --> 0:48:12.120 You know what I'm saying front the front office, and 0:48:12.239 --> 0:48:13.600 you know what I'm saying, some of the players, I 0:48:13.640 --> 0:48:15.319 feel like that's something that they need a little bit 0:48:15.400 --> 0:48:18.840 more of and you know, help help give a little guidance. 0:48:18.920 --> 0:48:21.160 So I feel like what I'm saying somebody like maybe 0:48:21.200 --> 0:48:25.600 a good candidate. So if y'all see this, listen, look, 0:48:25.640 --> 0:48:26.720 I'm looking for a job. 0:48:28.640 --> 0:48:31.239 Up next time we do an episode, but we're gonna 0:48:31.239 --> 0:48:34.040 be axecutive office, your position. 0:48:34.200 --> 0:48:35.920 We're gonna pull up into a podcast y'all. 0:48:36.080 --> 0:48:43.600 That that'll be that'll be lit. Yeah, in the jail, 0:48:44.160 --> 0:48:45.399 that would that would be cool. 0:48:46.239 --> 0:48:48.239 Man. I hope I hope that happened for you though 0:48:48.280 --> 0:48:48.640 for sure. 0:48:48.719 --> 0:48:50.960 Man, Like I was saying, man, appreciate you slotting be 0:48:51.000 --> 0:48:52.480 here and telling people that could buy some March 0:48:52.719 --> 0:48:56.000 Shop Club five twenty dot com Baby were out, Yes, sir, 0:48:56.360 --> 0:48:56.719 we're out.