Your calls on what we should do with Ebikes

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Speaker 1: And we continue at one oh five in the afternoon. On The John Phillips Show, Mister Randy Weggs across the Glass. David writes in at Johnny don't like show at gmail dot com. Maybe the kid should put Pokemon cards in their spokes to sound like a motorcycle, the way we all used to with baseball cards. But aren't those worth of gazillion dollars? They are? Rick has a better idea. I want an e bike with the sound of Antonio Viragosa clamoring for them peanuts, no pnut. He really does like those too. I really hope they put up that video of Antonio Viragoza in studio because you can see as soon as John gives him the peanut m and ms, even though he's about to be asked a question in a live radio interview, he dives right in, Hey, if that's your candy, that's your candy.

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Speaker 2: No put.

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Speaker 1: Eight hundred two two two five two two two is the telephone number one eight hundred two two two five two two too. In northern California, some locales are getting sick of teenagers on e bikes driving recklessly. So if the cops warned the kid to knock it off over and over and over again, and the kid doesn't do that, the city is going to charge the parents with the criminal offense. I'm all for it. What's say you? At eight hundred two two two five two two two. Let's begin with Ray and Westminster. Ray? Hello, how you doing there?

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Speaker 3: John and Randy?

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Speaker 1: I'm great.

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Speaker 4: Hey.

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Speaker 5: I was a bicycle commuter for about twenty five years. I had somebody trying to run me off the San Ana River bicycle trail one time on an e bike. So I would certainly be in favor of them prosecuting these people, requiring licenses and all that. At this point, if.

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Speaker 3: I become re.

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Speaker 5: Employed and decide that I'm going to go back to bicycle commuting, I will get an e bike.

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Speaker 6: But they have e.

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Speaker 5: Bikes now that are designed where they don't work unless you peddle them. Maybe that's what they need to require for these kids. You've got to pedal the darn things to get it to work.

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Speaker 1: But anyway, I don't know what it is about teenagers, but you put them on bicycles, you put them on e bikes, you put them on any sort of device that can allow them to move around quickly. And this pack mentality just takes over and individually they're probably fine, but you put them with a bunch of their buddies and suddenly they become the hell's angels.

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Speaker 5: Well, this guy who tried to run me off the San Ana River bicycle trail was by himself and just as discourteous as all get out, I'll tell.

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Speaker 1: You all right, Well, thanks for the call, sir, we appreciate it. Let's go to Justin in Santa Rosa.

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Speaker 7: Justin, Hello, Hey, guys, great topic.

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Speaker 8: I'm really enjoying it. I hate those things.

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Speaker 7: Anyhow.

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Speaker 8: One of the one of the things I've observed in my neighborhood that I haven't heard addressed here today is that not only are kids speeding around on them, I see him sucking on THC vape pens because I can smell them when they go by. So we got like, yeah, smell it. But yeah, so not only is it reckless, we also have some intoxication issues to cover.

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Speaker 1: Well, shouldn't that mellow them out of anything? Depends what kind of strength.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't know which what they're smoking, but no, I've smelled them going by, and I'm like, oh my god. You know got a fifteen year old kid smoking dope and riding down the street at forty miles an hour.

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Speaker 1: Well maybe that's why when that last caller called in and said he almost got run off in the Santa Ana River. If the kids are all doped up and they're riding those e bikes recklessly, they can drive by all the encampments to see what their future holds for them.

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Speaker 8: Yeah. Well, you know, I'm a bicyclist and a motorcycle rider, and I'll tell you what. Bikes have pedals, motorcycles have pegs.

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Speaker 1: All right, thank you for the call, sir. Did you see that wild video over the weekend of eighty teenagers trying to take over the Bay Bridge and the chp s shut it down immediately and sent every single one of those kids home with a citation and took away their e bikes. You were not shutting down the Bay Bridge for your little takeover. Good for them. People in cars have places to go. Let's go to Yona in San Juan Capistrano, Yonah.

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Speaker 9: Hello, Hi John, Hi Randy.

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Speaker 4: So good topic.

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Speaker 10: Similar to one of your other callers. We lived down southern California and San Juan Capistranos so we go between San Juan and Dan Point on all these trails that used to be pedestrian and like, so now they're the junior Hell's Angels and running us all over.

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Speaker 1: And how many close calls do you think you've had?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I was gonna say at least two.

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Speaker 10: I had to move out of the way so otherwise I would have got hit. And it's not just the kids or the people under eighteen.

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Speaker 3: I've seen too many.

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Speaker 10: As well, consider it, and sometimes multiple of so I had to do that in their way as well.

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Speaker 1: And if they almost hit you and don't, do they apologize afterwards or do they just keep moving?

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Speaker 11: No?

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Speaker 12: They always ask like they didn't even see us.

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Speaker 8: They keep moving.

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Speaker 3: Here's the pity.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for the call, completely gratuitous, but totally align with what this audience does. We've had that happen a couple of times. Let's go to John and Prescott, John, Hello.

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Speaker 7: Hello the great Randolph And mister Phillips. Where do I Where do I start? Your angels are two and two? Okay, So regarding the e bikes, I ride one. There's a lot of variations. So the early e bikes had pedals and they only did about twenty twenty five miles an hour. The laws go back to Vehicle Code four oh six and four oh seven, which us mopeds, and also addressing mopeds, it addressed motorized bicycles okay, which is kind of what a moped is what it falls under, and it also addresses mini bikes. So then you get into these e bikes what a lot of the kids are riding and what I ride. You know, they could do fifty with a slight. Wow, they could do seventy miles an hour. They're super fast. And they just came out with the new laws SB twelve seventy one last year, and a lot of people were warning me on my YouTube channel, hey be careful, you know those are outlawed now in California. And so I looked at the code and it was still super loose. It's like the legislators don't know what they're riding. They're ignorant. The only time I've ever been pulled over was ironically in Ventura Beach, where I used to reside, and I saw the officer look at me, and then he came back around and kind of caught me and and he was completely befuddled on the bike itself. He didn't really know if he if he was going to write a citation what I was doing wrong. So all he did was he warned me and said, well, you need a helmet in a mirror, and I don't need a helmet in a mirror because I'm an adult. So that was false. So it's a lot more complicated to them than I think it needs to be. And listen to all your phone calls. And by the way, I think Justin and Santa Rose, I think he was on the THHC without the e bike. Anyway, you know, you know that ring you guys used for that guy that sounds like he's kind of buzz and then you got I'm that's hilarious. By the way, I think he was that guy. But anyways, Uh, if you notice John, all the people that have talked to there's close calls and and the one was there wasn't an accident. So it's amazing that there really hasn't been any well known wrecks with these bikes because they're super fast, and if you remember the bicycles that came out where they were slapping those basically grass hedgers in the bicycle, there were a lot of accidents on those because I remember in Ventura there was a lot and I think I think people started addressing that those were dangerous and then they allowed him to do it if they put a helmet and a mirror on those and side step into the Long Beach caller, why why did the Long Beach Council why did they allow him to go up to twenty eight on the on the on the walk.

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Speaker 13: Well, you just outloaded.

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Speaker 1: Here's my theory on that. You know who lives in Long Beach and like a people, Well, you know who lives in Long Beach and likes to go on long walks near the ocean.

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Speaker 7: It is naked guys.

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Speaker 1: No, well probably many of them too. But former Los Ange Angelas County District Attorney George Gascon, so if he is going to be walking on the sidewalks of Long Beach every single day, I'm willing to take the risk of allowing e bikes to go as fast as they want in Long Beach. Quite frankly, thank you for the call. Shaw. Let's go to Leo and San Gabriel Leo.

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Speaker 6: Hello, Hey John, Randy, great show man, Thank you so much. Hey, I lived in Burbank as a small kid, and as a ten year old, I got a citation for riding my bike against traffic. I think I was on Burbank Boulevard or something like that. So the guy gives me a citation and I had to go to a class on a Saturday morning. You know, that's what they needed. That's what they need to do to these kids. You know, they need to hold them responsible for lading these traffic laws and not only putting themselves in danger, but of course the public. I mean, we know Burbank is different and they do things differently, but yeah, it's just ridiculous what these kids are getting away with. And the old Gavin, you know, one of his favorite words, accountability. The kids and the parents need to be held accountable for this nonsense.

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Speaker 14: Thanks gush.

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Speaker 1: All right, thank you for the call, sir. And that's true, Randy. You get a speeding ticket, you go to traffic school. Maybe the kids need to go as well, that's right, although now traffic school is all online. Correct usually Okay, So now the way it works is, if you get a traffic ticket, you give your nieces or nephews, your children money to take traffic school on your behalf. If you're the teenager, who do you pay off to do it for you? Let's go to Dan and Bethel Island.

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Speaker 15: Hello by John and Randy. Well, you know, like the other guy just called in. When I was I think in fourth grade in Walnut Creek riding my three speed bicycle on the wrong side of the road, I got a ticket, I had to go to court ride five hundred times. I will not ride my bike on the wrong side of the road. So I didn't after that. But on the other hand, my brother, he was walking with his wife from one of these you know, local trails we have over here. He got hit by a guy speeding on his scooter looking at his phone. And I think these kids are on the phone, you know, chatting or video calling with somebody, and they're just not paying any attention at all. And the parents and the child or a young man or one of the kind of you know junior Hell's Angels, they think are they all have to be responsible and these things had to be licensed. You're probably too young, John, But when out of a kid your bicycle, you had to have a license, you a little tiny license playing on the back. You went to the fire station. They paid five or ten dollars or something and you got to got the license. So there's a lot of a lot of things wrong out there with these speedy maniacs. And I think industry is probably you know, trying to keep these things not licensed and stuff so they have forbody to buy them. And you mentioned before California are clean air. Money has been going to give out these e bikes to young people that probably shouldn't be on them at all.

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Speaker 1: And here's something that the kids need to know. If you're riding around on an e bike going forty five miles an hour and you're looking at your phone instead of paying attention, I assume they're on Tender in one of the dating apps. You're going to be a lot less desirable on Tender if you have the imprint of a mini van in your forehead.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, and you know also, you know, John, you probably aware of this also, and Randy. In school there are you know a lot of these teachers are in forcing to the kids that, oh, you know, the cars have to stop for you at the road. You know, you know, there's nothing you could do. You're invulnerable, and that's what they're saying. You know they're telling and you know it's.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for the call, sir. Let's go to Marty and Huntington Beach. Marty, Hello, hey.

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Speaker 2: Guys, are you going good? All right? So, going back to the original argument, you know, should the parents be going to jail or suffer the consequences thereof? I think it gets to the point that where if it gets to the parent to where they're going to have to suffer the deal. I think the child should be doing some juvie time. So if I get fined for whatever amount of money, Uh, let's say, first to Finich, you spend in three days, three or four days in juvie. If it happens again, then let's triple it. They should curve that, shouldn't it.

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Speaker 1: Oh, the kids won't like that immediately, and if that doesn't get their attention, they're probably a lost cause.

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Speaker 2: Well that does fit in LA though, right, that's very true.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for the call, Sarah. Let's go to John in the East Bay. John, Hello, Hey.

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Speaker 3: Hello, Hi, how you doing good?

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Speaker 8: Hey?

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Speaker 6: As you know, I used to be an Oakland policeman and on behalf of the Hell's Angels. I think you're giving them a bad wrap. You keep referring to these kids as little Hell's Angels, and I can tell you from experience the Angels were usually very polite and courteous guys, especially when went on their motorcycles, riding around or committing any traffic violation, which was generally done totally unintentionally. The first time I stopped one of the guys, first time I stopped one was on a Sunday. I was a rookie and you know, there, you are the Hell's Angels. Their national headquarters is in Oakland. So I stopped him. I was waiting for cover units to show up. Nobody showed up. I rode him as I don't even think I rode him a traffic ticket. He was so nice it was like an equipment violation. And when I got back to the locker room, I mentioned to a couple of guys that nobody showed up to cover me, and they asked me, well, who's the Hell's Angels.

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Speaker 2: Was he polite?

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Speaker 6: I said very much, so they said they always are. That's why we don't stop them. I mean, that's why we didn't cover yet, it's no big deal with those guys.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's odd branding for the boy Scouts to name themselves the Hell's angels.

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Speaker 6: Well, you know the other thing is, why don't they just confiscate the kids' bikes? Take them in, take them in his evidence, take them in for something. Make the parents you find them for everyday you got to hold them, and you make the parents come in and get them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Just take all those e bikes that you confiscate, ship them over to we Run, give them to the New Ayatola and say you're probably gonna need to get out of dodge quickly. Here you go.

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Speaker 6: Sounds good to me.

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Speaker 1: All right, thanks for the call, sir. Let's go to Klows in Thousand Oaks, Klaus.

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Speaker 14: Hello, Hey John, Hey Randy. So I to answer the first question at hand, Yeah, I do believe the excuse you one second?

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Speaker 1: What just happened? I don't know.

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Speaker 14: Sorry, I had good Sorry, I had to.

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Speaker 1: Are you in somebody's trunk right now? Do you need an help you?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 14: No, I probably might as well be in someone's trunk. No. I have the eye of allergies, So sorry about that. I had to make a cough. Yeah, the parents should be prosecuted and the kids should be put in Julie. I had an experience last year on Super Bowl Sunday during the halftime show. I didn't want to watch it, so I decided to take my family out on a walk. I was with my wife, my dog, and my two year old daughter, and there was a kid on an e bike riding on the sidewalk without a helmet and with AirPods in his ears so he couldn't hear. And I was trying to yell at him to get out of the way, get out of the way, because he was coming out on the sidewalk easily fifteen twenty miles per hour. Eventually got out of the way and I started yelling at him to just not do that again. Then like maybe three minutes later, his father comes up to me. Catches up to me, and I immediately recognize the situation. What's going to happen? And this guy probably drunk out of is mine because of the Super Bowl. I told my family to get back to our townhouse and just made me behind. The father confronted me and actually assaulted me by headbutting me. So that was a that was a nice experience there. So you know, I'm I love motorcycles. I have one, but I have I have an m one license, and uh, these kids should be these bikes should be regulated to the h M two license because M two uh motor rights vehicles can only go above I cannot go above three miles per hour.

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Speaker 1: All right, thank you for the gold, Klaus, and sorry to say we're up against a break here. If you went a weigh in eight hundred two two two five two two two E is jellphone number one eight hundred two two two five two two two eight hundred two two two five two two two as a telephone number. Let's go to Mark and Mill Valley. Mark.

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Speaker 13: Hello, Hey guys, good afternoon, love the show.

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Speaker 12: Hey.

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Speaker 13: So I was accosted by two little vermin on e bikes down in Mill Valley and I was going through a stop sign and they blasted through. I honked my horn. They circled back around and spit on my truck, and I happened to have my phone going as as they're as they're spitting on my truck and I'm screaming at him, of course, right, And then I recognized the one kid. His father is one of my clients that I do work with. So I took the I took my phone and I went up to the house and I said, hey, I just want to show you this and so that you can, like, you know, tell your kids to chill out. He made both of those boys, he brought them to my house and he made them wash and wax my truck for funny.

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Speaker 1: I love that.

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Speaker 13: It was the best. And oh my gosh, down in New Valley, it's out of control. It's just it's out of control.

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Speaker 6: The e bikes.

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Speaker 13: And they're not just your simple e bike. They're the e bikes that look like a motorcycle, that are faster than you can even possibly imagine. And Katie Corter is a ready.

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Speaker 1: War new people. Thank you for the call, sir. This story has nothing to do with her, but you people can't help yourselves. No, let's go to Jeff and Huntington Beach.

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Speaker 4: Jeff, Hello, hey John RANDI, Yeah, it reminds close to me, but I'm not gonna I'm not gonna mention you know who. But anyhow, so yeah, so finally last year in twenty twenty five, we had three incidents where they have off road e bikes MX motorcross type e bikes. They're not they're not safe to be on the roadways, not permitted, but all throughout our city we have all the kids up and down California's well riding these things. And so one father's two minor boys, they're riding him his dad. The first time he got them pounded, the dad said, you know, explained, okay, I'll register it for off road use and make it all legal whatever. Then the kids pick it on the road again, and then it was impounded again. Dad's gonna have talking to them. I think three incidents later, the dah finally going after this parent. Enough's enough. It's like all the promises getting this thing out of impound, but nope, it's the parents. You have to go after the parents because some of these e bikes they go.

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Speaker 16: Like that.

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Speaker 4: One caller said, sixty seventy miles an hour. We had one fatility I know for sure, downtown where a guy ran to a car the set of a car and bones were sticking out everywhere and he was moaning and groaning and is horrible. And we've got acts into all the town. But yeah, it has to go after the parents. That's the only way, all right.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for the call, sir. Let's go to Cameron in Chino Hills. Cameron, Hello, Hey, good afternoon, gentlemen.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for taking a call. Just wanted to make a couple of points. Number One, you know these e bikes, they're fun, they're fun for kids to ride, but remember that fun is only fun when it's done safe, So that means operating the bicycle in a responsible way and wearing protective gear. The other thing I wanted to mention is that what we have seen in our industry time over a year now is that the accidents involving these bikes are largely more consistent with the type of injuries you see from motor vehicle collisions. These bikes, and a lot of cases are going over twenty miles an hour. Some of them, even after modification, are going perhaps thirty five miles an hour. So you can imagine that when somebody would spill out on this or hit somebody else, that they're going to be seriously injured. So it's really important to understand that these are particularly dangerous. Now, we're not saying don't ride these things. Go ahead and have fun with them, but do it safely. And it comes down to really training and understanding when you put one of these bikes in the hands of a ten year old or a twelve year old, even a thirteen year old who has no experience operating any kind of motor vehicle or any type of motorcycle, for example. They don't know and understand things like reaction time, stopping distances, how the weather may impact their visibility and their ability to stop and break or avoid an accident. So really it comes down to education, training and knowledge.

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Speaker 1: All right, thank you very much for that advice. We appreciate it. Let's go to George and San Juan Capistrano.

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Speaker 17: George, Hello, Yeah, just thinking, you know, I've got driven down the road.

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Speaker 18: I'm kind of.

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Speaker 12: Worried about running into these kids. So I think it'd be a good solution is to if you're under eighteen years old, say or sixteen, if you have to wear one of those jackets like cal Tranps has that. Everybody has to wear one.

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Speaker 18: Of those, and whether you're riding the bike.

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Speaker 12: Or stopped or whatever, so somebody can sit you at the corner and when there's speed byke you do run into them.

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Speaker 16: What do you think about that?

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Speaker 1: Well, I think it's great. And then after they don't follow the rules, you can use that same orange jacket for them when they're picking up trash on the side of the freeway after the judge sentences over there you go.

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Speaker 17: Or maybe you can make them put a put some kind of a number on their back, or have them put on some kind of electric device where they could track them or something, you know, because I mean, I see some of these kids just speeding right down the road with in pairs.

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Speaker 12: You know, like five or six of a time. Here in San Juan, this is kind of a horsey town. A lot of people have horses here and they don't ride them down the street or anything. But I see these kids riding these bikes up and down the horse trails. That's not right, you know.

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Speaker 1: Come on, all right, thanks for the call, Sert. Let's go to Jack and Cooper. Tino, Jack, Hello, Hey, how you doing.

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Speaker 11: I just had a couple of points. There's you know, people are thrown around a lot of high speeds and things like that. Yeah, there's a lot of bikes out there that go very fast. I'm an owner, and I'm a responsible owner. But most of the bikes that you're gonna see kids operating are you know, gonna be going seventeen miles an hour. And before anybody thinks, you know, that's naive and so forth, the reality is seventeen miles an hour is really fast. Twenty miles an hour is really fast. And just because there's adult bikes out there that go much faster and some require you know, motorcycle's license and so forth, you know, doesn't mean that there's a need for a regulation that's statewide. You know, somebody that's down in you know, downtown Los Angeles, there's going to be more impacts on the greater pedestrian community than somebody that you know lives in our more rural area. So I just wish the local law enforcement officers, the local mayors would get together and come up with something that's regulations that are correct for the particular area. If you're on a trail, if you're on a site walk, if you're anywhere there, the chances are that a pitfull is going to take your cap off a lot quicker than a bike is. So let's start with regulations of what actually harms people on site walks and not just have this knee jerk reaction that everything new under the sun is going to be problematic.

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Speaker 1: I'm for that, and we do that, by the way, with speed limits. If you're in an area that has a lot of congestion. The speed limit is different than if you're on the Iten Freeway on your way to Arizona, when it is very rural and there's just not a lot going on out there. You can go seventy miles an hour on IT ten. You can't go seventy miles an hour in downtown LA. It's not something that they allow. Now. I do believe it should be regulated because they are using public property, they are using sidewalks, they're using bike lanes, they're using city streets, they're using in some cases the five Freeway. They go a lot of places that they are allowed to go currently and a lot of places that they're not allowed to go in. And part of why I do believe we do need regulation that makes sense with these things is because people are getting hurt. And if you say, well, okay, let's take the libertarian argument here, these kids should be allowed to go wherever they want to go, and that's just the way it is. It's kids need to learn their way in the world. Well, find if they run over an elderly person and kill them, then we have to be able to throw them in prison too. And the reality is is that we're probably not going to do that. They're going to say, oh, my god, the poor kid, he didn't know that this sort of thing could happen. Have sympathy for the kid. The kids traumatized too, And it's just one of these situations where you just throw your hands up. So you have to try to get in front of it before the bad thing happens, because otherwise the bad thing's going to happen, and then they're going to say, well, they didn't know what they were doing.

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Speaker 11: And the regulations that are that are imposed to always have dramatic financial consequences involved. And if you actually want to take a teach a kid something, look at what a teacher at least used to be able to do. You take it away and you give it back to them at the end of the day, maybe the end of the weekend, whatever if it the e bike and so forth. But nowadays there's this reaction where we always think we have to say, and it'll cost you two hundred and fifty dollars to store it, and it'll cut you know, for an impound fee or this or that, and then all of a sudden it becomes there's a way.

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Speaker 1: To make money.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, it becomes a way to make money and the kids don't learn the lesson.

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Speaker 1: All right, Thank you for the call, sir. Let's go to Chris and Bellflower. Chris, Hello, Hello.

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Speaker 18: John and Randy.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 18: This is something I think you guys can probably remember because I'm of age of you guys. Remember the Andy Griffiths show where the kid was riding his bike on the sidewalk and the father had to reprimand him and he wouldn't do it. So the kid threw a tamtam in front of Andy and said, I don't care if you throw my dad in jail. I want my bike. Remember that episode.

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Speaker 1: I don't, but he's lucky he got Andy and not Barney because Barney had the three bullets.

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Speaker 18: It sounds like Randy remembers it.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for the call, sir. Let's go to Mike in Orange County.

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Speaker 16: Mike, Hello, Hey, Joan, Hey Randy, how are you guys doing today?

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Speaker 1: Good?

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Speaker 16: Hey, I absolutely agree something has to be done. I mean, so, I'm in Orange County. I don't remember if it was Long Beach or Seal Beach A couple of weeks ago. You guys may have already hit on this, but an elderly woman was hit and was put into critical condition from a kid jamming around his bike. I'm pretty sure it was an e bike related deal. But yeah, you see some of these kids. They don't have an M one licenser, let alone an M two license to drive a motor vehicle. And some of these things are less e bike, more electric motorcycle. You know, they don't understand the rules of the road they're zipping around. There's a section of Westminster between Westminster and Seeal Beach that's a sixty.

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Speaker 7: Mile per hour road.

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Speaker 16: The other day, I was driving my truck down the street and there's a kid keeping pace with me at sixty miles per hour. The kid couldn't have been more than thirteen thirteen years old, and it just you know, Andy, you hit it. Excuse me, John, you hit the nail on the head. Where you put a couple young people in a group on a fast vehicle and all of a sudden they've become like Cobra Kai.

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Speaker 6: It's crazy.

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Speaker 16: It's the weirdest dynam.

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Speaker 1: There's something to that. I don't know what the rules are in sociology, but individually they're fine. You put them in a group and I don't know what the hell happens to them, but they turn evil. Mob mentality takes over. Thank you for the call, sir. Let's go to David Lodie.

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Speaker 18: Dave, Hello, Hey, how are you guys doing today?

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Speaker 7: Good e bikes.

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Speaker 18: They're fast. Your previous caller and talked about seventeen miles an hour. Yeah, there's probably some out there, but most of the ones I see zipping around, they're doing thirty forty and fifty thirty mile an hour. Crash is like falling off a three story building, So it's serious.

00:32:40
Speaker 7: We need to do.

00:32:41
Speaker 18: Something to regulate them, require some kind of training, because for somebody under twenty one to get a motorcycle license, they have to have a Class C driver license first and take a motorcycle safety course before they can get a motorcycle license. And these e bikes are just as bad as a motorcycle.

00:33:02
Speaker 7: And they're quiet.

00:33:04
Speaker 18: You can't hear them coming.

00:33:08
Speaker 1: Yeah, when a motorcycle comes by, if you are taking a nap or you are asleep, guess what that's coming to an end real fast, because you can hear them a mile away.

00:33:20
Speaker 18: Absolutely. And I have e bikes going by in front of my house periodically when I'm out in the front yard doing something and you don't hear them. What you finally do is see them go by. There's no warning. And they should have to wear the lime green or orange or yellow vest like road workers do, and a helmet because you can get a serious head injury.

00:33:45
Speaker 1: Just falling over all, right, thank you did it.

00:33:48
Speaker 18: That's all off a ladder. And also, as far as traffic school goes, anybody under twenty one should have to go to a classroom traffic school, not online. I taught travel school for fifteen years, and it used to be a lot of fun. But then all you were getting was old people that couldn't use computers, or people that couldn't speak or understand English and so.

00:34:17
Speaker 2: Which was which was great fun.

00:34:20
Speaker 18: You know, they could converse at English, but they couldn't read English, and they weren't literate in Spanish either, such a challenge. It was amazing. But private school used to be fun, and then they regulated it so bad, and like I say, the classes got to be old people couldn't use computers, or people who couldn't understand and read English. But these e bikes are dangerous, Like you say, thirty mile our Christ is like falling off a three story building.

00:34:55
Speaker 1: All right there, thank you for the call, sir. Let's go to Scott in NAPA Scott, Hello, Hey, how are you good.

00:35:05
Speaker 9: I'm just sorry I came in in the middle of this conversation, but I'm old enough to remember the old rules, even for bicycles, not for e bikes anything else. If you're on a public street, you have to follow the rules of the road. You have to follow the same stop signs, everything left. You have to signal when you turn left, the whole bit. So when did we stop enforcing the rules on just basic bicycles, let alone e bikes and everything else. I'm we should be able to just drop the ball on everybody, just take it away and give them a citation.

00:35:44
Speaker 1: All right, thank you for the call. Let's go to Thomas and Lakeport. Thomas, Hello, good afternoon, Randy.

00:35:51
Speaker 19: And yeah, I'm up here in Lakeport. And my understanding is that if a child is under eighteen years old, they have to wear a helmet when they're riding a bike. I don't even see the law enforcement up here citing these kids riding around with no helmets on, and half the time, if they are wearing a helmet, they are wearing it properly. They've got a cock back over their forehead, and it is going to do them any good. And my understanding is, you know, we were supposed to be riding bikes to get exercise. Now we're not. Now we got all these little toys that have battery operated and we're not getting any exercise. Kids are not getting any exercise. And the other thing is too you wait till they put lights on these things, and these kids are going to be riding them at night, and that's going to be even worse.

00:36:40
Speaker 1: O god, can you imagine?

00:36:44
Speaker 19: All right, they're up here riding around in the parks at night and nobody's stopping them, nobody says anything to them. And yeah, this has got to be regulated somehow because somebody's going to get hurt, seriously, and it's going to be too bad anyway. That's my thoughts.

00:37:02
Speaker 1: All right, thank you for the call, Sir Roger and Sherman Oaks Roger, Hello.

00:37:07
Speaker 6: WHOA Yeah.

00:37:08
Speaker 16: I was going down some Paulva to south on some Paulova the other day and there was a guy on a bicycle on the sidewalk to him. I paced him at thirty five miles an hour, he went through five stop signs going down some Paula. He didn't he didn't slow down, he just went ripping through. He looked both ways and go on through. And you know, he stopped in the Carls Junior. So I pulled it into the parking out there and told him he's stupid, and he didn't care. And then some of these people that don't wear a helmet, I don't think there's anything to protect, you know, nothing inside their goal.

00:37:44
Speaker 1: Well, in his defense, Roger, he may have been drunk.

00:37:50
Speaker 16: He was going straight. But I see this all the time. And those electric skateboards too, same same thing, all right. Crazy. And I was in Newport Beach here a couple of months ago, and there was three guys on bicycles going down the sidewalk and it's narrow where it was right there in the middle of the town, and they went ripping past front of this store, and just after they passed, some of the people walked out of the store. And if they would have been a couple of seconds off, they would have got clobbered.

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