NFL Cover Zero: Thankful for a long weekend of football!

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Speaker 1: NFL Cover zero with Matt Jones and Drew Franklin is a production of the NFL and iHeart podcast Bortom. Week thirteen NFL Covers Zero Here in Lexington, Kentucky. We've been dealing sorry for the late arrival of today's podcast. We've been dealing with the firing of UK football coach Mark Soops. So last night we were not able to tape, so it's coming a little late, but it's here, and thank you all very much for tuning in. Drew, some of these games we're going to talk about were days ago, but we haven't talked about him yet. And I actually think the most important parts of the weekend were Thanksgiving. Maybe the best Thanksgiving day of football in a long time.

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Speaker 2: Oh what an awesome day. Two out of three good games, but even the night game of Burrow coming Back, it was just a full slate of sitting there, eating all the food I can possibly eat and daring someone to touch my remote. But then when the NFL was on TV.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I was actually actually followed the even the night game because of the Burrow piece.

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Speaker 2: What do you think of his hair?

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Speaker 1: Really long? But he's kind of he's kind of like he's becoming like a nineties teen male TV like heart throb with all that hair to part it into the front. Looks like Brian Austin Green.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, are we're gonna go back to listing, Uh Tiger Beetle.

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Speaker 1: This is a very specific one. Looks like he would be on nine O two and Oh Melrose Place, maybe even The Heights. Ray, how do you talk to an angel?

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Speaker 2: He's just he's at that that stratosphere. We can do it every once. He can show up with a blue mohawk and everyone's just gonna fawn over him. He's at that level. He wears whatever he wants, true the hairstat one thing like a year ago. Yeah, sometimes he wears baggy clay. He looks like a marshmallow walking into the stadium. But I mean he pulls it off because he's Joe Burrow. He's cooler than I could ever think about being.

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Speaker 1: Well, mass start with that game, since we're talking about it. The Ravens of the teams that I thought were a contender coming in the year, I think that's gonna be the first one I'm gonna scratch off. We'll talk about the Chiefs in a minute. I still can't completely scratch them off yet, but I'm scratching the Ravens off because they just don't have it. Lamar doesn't look quite the same, but more importantly, their defense, they just they just don't have it. And it took me until this game against the Bengals. You get wiped out at home on Thanksgiving when the other team was playing on four days rest two and they had to come to your place. I'm just they don't have it just being a.

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Speaker 2: Divisional rivalry, they're playing for the playoffs, Primetime TV. Sure burrows back. He hasn't thrown a football in a game in forever. They absolutely dropped the ball. I think back to that Week one game against Buffalo, Dereck Henry was unstoppable, and I'm thinking Henry's gonna do it again. But he's cooled off since the beginning of the year. Lamar seems to have lost the step. I just, I mean, they're not mathematically out, but I mean I have no faith in them doing anything for the rest. And the Beagles, on the other hand, four and eight, I mean, they're not a contender, are they?

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Speaker 1: There's I mean, but if they were to win out, we're gonna talk about two or three teams today where I'm gonna have to say if they went out, which sounds silly, but they actually could do it. I mean, you look at the Bengals schedule. They are four and eight, and there's some losses in here, like the Jets that they've got to be going crazy about. But they're at the Bills. Okay, that's a very hard games Sunday. But then you got Ravens at home at Dolphins, Cardinals, Browns. So it sort of sets up if you could just win Sunday in Buffalo, why can't they win the division.

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Speaker 2: I'm watching them, and you know the two teams ahead of them, Steelers Ravens we just mentioned bad. Those aren't world beaters. If they can win one, you get to that stretchery of those three very winnable games in the year. I could see the Bengals finishings strong and sliding in the final hour.

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Speaker 1: If they're nine and eight, they will win the division. What's interesting is they might win it at eight to nine, or being a tie at eight nine. That Ravens game in two weeks could be actually a game for the division. Oddly, I still don't I still hate their team. I still think it's like Burrow, they got three good wide receivers and then that's it. But they've been in a lot of close games. I mean, they blew the Jets game. I don't want to say they blew the Bears game, but they they could have won the Bears game. The Bears dominated that game but almost gave it away at the end. Like they could be six and six pretty easily, right.

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Speaker 2: And that's exactly what Pittsburgh and Baltimore. I mean, they could be in a tie for the division if they just handle finish the job against New York and Chicago.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, why didn't Why does Chris collins Worth not do the Thanksgiving game?

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Chason Garrett did it. And here's what I'm thinking. It's the Bengals your team, right, it's thanks But he didn't do it. Tariico does both. Why's Collinsworth think he's do you think he's better than Thanksgiving? I think he's anti Thanksgiving?

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Speaker 2: Could it be he does this like Turkey? He ate too much and literally they could not slot him into the frame so they had to call someone in.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I feel like Chris collins Worth I turn on that game at night. There are going to be more people watching that game then watch the game on Sunday night.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, So why are you not?

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Speaker 3: What?

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Speaker 2: Why are not there? Chris Collins, he was at the family. Didn't that a dereliction of duties? Darrel de that's that's that's a big word for me.

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Speaker 1: It's Darrel. Let's just say election. Why is that nice? At? A dereliction of duties? This is Thanksgiving? Even Tom? Do you think Tom Brady wanted to be in Detroit?

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Speaker 2: She's glasses?

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Speaker 1: I mean, did you see I mean you think Tom Brady was like, yeah, I want to stand in the cold in Detroit next to Kurt Minafee.

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Speaker 2: He still shows up? Did they even have avocados in Detroit? What did he eat?

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Speaker 1: I actually heard him say during I don't know why I watched that pregame show. They were asking him what he eats and he said vegan, which I don't know what that means.

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Speaker 2: What is vegan stuff?

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Speaker 1: I don't know, but everything it's a bad look for Colin's worth not to.

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Speaker 3: I do only because Trico showed up, like that's your other guy?

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Speaker 1: If he went to Team two. I getly get it, but Turrico's there, and Trinco's got to be like, excuse me, where's my guy?

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Speaker 2: Dude? I do it all. I do the Olympics, I do the Derby.

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Speaker 1: I do uh five? You think I want to be at the ND five hundred? That's probably what Turrico says.

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Speaker 2: Trico's thinking, I haven't seen my family on Thanksgiving in thirty years in Italy for three and a half weeks and sit in the snow.

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Speaker 1: Do you think.

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Speaker 2: Collinsworth was at home grunting wyatas food? Do you think they had like the family spread con castle?

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Speaker 1: I really just want to set you up to do that again. By the way, I like corn castro. Everybody has been mocking that recently. Didn't you say that was your favorite?

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Speaker 3: A lot of crap for my favor.

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Speaker 2: You deserve that.

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Speaker 1: I mean favorite is a little strong for corn castro, but I like corn.

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Speaker 3: Cas Casseroles are necessary on Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it is Thanksgiving unless you have a cast role. Now, I have never even fathom making a cast role. I don't know how you would do it, but I like them. That one's very easy. What corn casserole? What's it? Corn?

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Speaker 2: Is butter? Corn? Butter and what depending if you're one more of a runne or fritter, but like condensed milk, just unhealthy stuff and then sprinkle a little corn in there.

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Speaker 1: Tell me it's unhealthy. Oh see, I eat a lot of it because it feels healthy because it's a vegetable.

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Speaker 2: My aunt's broccoli and cheese casserole, which is my favorite. It is mostly cheese, ritz, crackers, and butter, and then there's like one little broccoli and it's perfect. The best way to eat vegetables.

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Speaker 1: Well, I just thought you took too much crap for the corn castrole thing. Just for the record, I actually think that's good as well. Chiefs and Cowboys. I mean, to me, this is have the numbers come out yet? Is this the highest most watched regular season game ever? That'll probab they come out today or tomorrow. I mean, if they have not said it yet, I think it's going to end up being the most watched regular season game ever. They're saying it could be over fifty million people, which they've never gotten. Who in America was not watching that? I mean, Mahomes Kelsey, the Cowboys Thanksgiving? Honestly, you should be you probably should be put in prison. If you weren't watching that game, I would not trust anyone that didn't have that game on.

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Speaker 2: I agree with you, it should be higher than turkey on your Thanksgiving checklist.

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Speaker 1: Yes, that game that specifically because it's those two teams. It's the Cowboys and the most marketable team. If it's it, I understand if you're like, well, it's a cult, but yes, Chiefs Cowboys, you gotta watch.

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Speaker 2: Have to. And I grew up in a Cowboys family. We were sitting down to eat about the first quarter, like my dad's saying the blessing, and the TV is louder than us saying our prayer before eating because we have to be locked in on the Cowboys game.

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Speaker 3: And is Taylor Swift not going to the games anymore? I think she's taking a step back too much, too much tension. Last year's it's the holidays.

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Speaker 1: But why would she not be there first of all? Or is she there and they're not showing her at which point that's also a dereliction of duty by the bye by CBS. I mean you should see her like Travis Kelce scored.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're you expecting it every time he makes a play.

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Speaker 2: Now it's a holiday, they have sweets tea.

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Speaker 1: I mean I should see her once for every ten times I see Diego pave As. Mom, You're right about that. I feel like I should see her sometimes. That was a big talking point in my family. Everyone's like, where is she? Has she popped up yet? Have you given up on the Chiefs? They're now six and six? Oh you have? Yes, you're done.

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Speaker 2: But I've also done this just about every week, and they've shut me up a week later. This for me almost was more about do the Cowboys have life? Don't skip over the Chiefs yet? Okay?

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Speaker 1: Do you? I agree with that?

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Speaker 2: Was bad loss? Bad loss for them and the Broncos just keep winning.

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Speaker 1: But I mean they're not gonna win the division. This is now about a wild card. If they go eleven and six, they probably would get a wildcard. Not certain in the AFC, but probably. So they gotta win five straight. You don't think they can win five straight.

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Speaker 2: Let me pull up their exact schedule, but no, they've been so inconsistent this year.

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Speaker 1: They play the Texans this week at home. They're hot Chargers at home at Titans, Broncos at home at Raiders. They have three hard games, but they're all at home.

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Speaker 2: Titans, Raiders. That's like the free Square on Bingo, give you that.

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Speaker 1: Can they beat the Texans, Chargers and Broncos at home three weeks in a row.

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Speaker 2: No, that's a big slate. It's hard, but.

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Speaker 1: They're all at home.

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Speaker 2: They are all at home, you know.

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Speaker 1: They say, like in Rocky two, it was only when his back was against the wall that he found his inner ability. Is this could be their Rocky Too moment? Remember stallone actually wins in Rocky two. People forget he loses in Rocky he won. Spoiler alert Damn by the way, watch that. When I got home. I have a question for you. Do you watch Stranger Things?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 1: Okay, spoiler alert Stranger Things spoiler See that's a pro.

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Speaker 2: That's a that's a man who cares about his audience.

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Speaker 1: We had on Matt and Myern the dad from Stranger Things. Hop that was his name. Isn't there a dad Hopper? Hopper?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: We had him on and ks R curse Apparently he almost dies in the first episode.

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Speaker 2: Of the new season. Oh Mario didn't like that.

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Speaker 3: Damn mad at me?

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Speaker 1: And they say it's a spoint.

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Speaker 2: Why is that just came out? You can't just beac it's episode one and he doesn't look at Mario's face. He obviously hasn't seen it yet. We've been busy.

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Speaker 1: It happens apparently right at the beginning.

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Speaker 2: He's not even an important character, is he? You want to tell people what happens in the diner and the Sopranos.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't not, but okay, so that's my point. Is that bad to say? I think if a show is as big as that, it's only been out a week, you gotta got the ending of the show. It's something that happens in the first episode, but you just saw it's in a car crash and almost dies.

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Speaker 2: All right, Mario start on episode two. Yeah, more excited to watch it. They've waited a long time for this.

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Speaker 1: Well now they know what's gonna happen. But it's not like he's the main character, as I understand, like he doesn't. Part of why we had him on the show because we could get him.

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Speaker 2: I think he was one of the main care He's probably the most consistent character on the entire show outside's character outside of the kids that are now like thirty. Definitely, the dad is the father figure to the main character.

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Speaker 1: Of all the people that are characters. Now, he's all he does is go like, hey, Brian be home by nine? Is that not all he does? Has a car wreck? It nearly does, apparently, to be fair, Mark, I've never seen an episode, So do you consider that a spoiler? Okay? Anyway, why did I bring that up?

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Speaker 2: We were talking about the Chief of the Chiefs. One point I was about to pick on the Chiefs.

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Speaker 1: Happened have to do with the Chiefs. Why did I heard that? Oh?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you pick your guest picker. What did that have to do with the game? Did he pick that game?

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Speaker 1: What he picked?

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Speaker 2: I think you just wanted to ruin Mario's day?

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Speaker 1: Alright.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, I was going to add that of the games you listed on the chief schedule, they've already lost to the Broncos and already lost to the Chargers week ones. There's a little bit of redemption factor here too.

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Speaker 1: That charge the more reason that I don't think they're going to lose this. So all right, let's talk about the Cowboys. You are they for real? They're now what six five and one? Seven five and one? What are they? Sixty five and one?

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Speaker 2: The time might actually help them I'm worried it's too late. But adding Quinn Williams from the Jets has been huge. He's been awesome. Some guys on defense have gotten healthy. I mean, Pickens, Lamb, and Dak have been amazing. I mean, that's unbelieved. That's the best offense going right now. But the defense has been so bad all year until just recently that defense has turned a corner. But I'm just worried with the standings. It might just be a couple weeks behind, but they're in the hunt. I had them losing the last two weeks Eagles and Chiefs, and they won both of them. So they're they're doing all they can to make that push.

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Speaker 1: Their schedule is tough, Lions, Vikings Chargers, well actually not terrible lines Vikings Chargers, Commander's Giants so navigable. That's a big one coming up against the Lions. And that's Thursday night. That might even be like a loser leaves town. Man, it could be, you think.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, And yet another game. I know the Cowboys, America's team. I get it. They're prim time a lot. Do they only play Sunday night, Monday night or Thursday night? Now it feels like Eric, thanks you every week. The Cowboys are like the game it seems here lately and now we're getting it again Thursday. But I'm glad it is because I do think the loser this could be a knocky out game, even though there's still a few weeks left.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I I I'm I think they. I think it is a loser leaves town match. And I'm also pretty big on the Cowboys. I think they've looked good, even in a couple of their losses before that, I think they had looked good.

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Speaker 2: I think it's gonna turn out. You know, it's a bad pr move for losing Michael Partersy both do well from it with the picks they got and then going out and getting Williams has been a stud I mean, Cowboys could end up winning that deal if they If they do not get ready to help them build both people.

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Speaker 1: The early game was Packers Lions. As we talked about, I well, I meant to only seeing parts of this game because I was at my family's Thanksgiving playing pool with Mario and my family eating cast or roles. But I did see the ending and I heard that Dan Campbell punched a wall. He was so upset. That is not the Thanksgiving spirit that I like to hear, but I understand as the Lions continue to disappoint.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, team I thought could be an NFC contender for a one seed earlier in the year is now fighting to stay in the playoffs. It's your holiday, it's Thanksgiving, you got a rival. You got to finish the job. And how's a tough loss Gibbs had at home? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: At home?

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Speaker 2: Gibbs had a terrible game, a guy that's been awesome for them lately. Giving up thirty one points to the Packers just just a bad look all the way around.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I do you think not having Ben Johnson, Matt Matters or even Ben Johnson and Aaron Glenn Do you think losing the coordinators affected the Lions more than probably a lot of people thought it would.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, and Johnson's especially looks different. Yeah, and you know we'll get to Ben Johnson. He's as hot as anyone right now. But yeah, losing him had to be big. They've still been able to score some points, but they should be able to score points with the offense. They have them and they have some absolute weapons and that's why the last Thursday was so disappointing for a guy like Gibbs who just finds the end zone. It's routine for him. They just couldn't get much going.

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Speaker 1: I think that I think the Packers are I'm not gonna I'm still putting the Rams as my favorite from the NFC, but the Packers to me might be second. I think they're really really good. And I think Jordan Love. With Jordan Love, I call him two out of three. I said that, like I always call him that. I'm giving him that name. I don't act like I've been always calling him two out of three. Okay, but Old two out of three, which is two out of three games he looks like Momes and then one game he disappoints you. But I think what's good is his disappointing games have are becoming less and less putrid. So that way, Old two out of three, if he gives you two great performances and one mediocre, you can win with that. And if he ever becomes Old three out of four, oh, then we might have a potential super Bowl winner.

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Speaker 2: And there their two stars were huge in this game. Love had like four touchdowns, no interceptions, And we mentioned the Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: Trader big Micah Parsons.

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Speaker 2: Parsons is the big reason Gibbs didn't have much of a game. He absolutely wrecked them, great all the way, all around game for the Packers, but those two specifically, they're stars on each side of the ball. Showed up on Thanksgiving Day and.

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Speaker 1: This was definitely the Okay Micah Parsons, you know, you know, think about him, He's played on Thanksgiving like all the time he's He probably thought when he got when he was like, oh, if you ever leave the Cowboys, at least I'll have Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 2: No point. Nope, they got three sacks. I mean he was he lived in the backfield. Yes, Golf still had a pretty good game, but I mean Parsons was eating them up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So nice win there. Now it's time to talking about things people care about the most. Chicago Bears Friday. They looked great. I mean, they were the best team throughout the game. They dominated the game. Caleb Williams actually wasn't great. I mean I actually don't think he played particularly well and they still won. And that's what's making me excited is this Bears team. I'm not gonna act like it's the great Bears defenses of the eighties and even the nineties. But they're good. But the playmakers, the receivers swift. And then Caleb, even though I don't think he played great, you get him out of the pocket and you get him scrambled and things start happening. And that was the first game to win on the road in Philadelphia that I thought, Okay, this isn't just a team that can make the playoffs. Maybe they can win a game or two.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Philly's got some offensive problems, but their defense has been their calling card all year. That defense has been awesome. And the Bears almost ran for three hundred yards on the defense. I mean they had two running backs with one hundred and twenty ishue each, maybe even more.

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Speaker 1: And pretty much much whatever they wanted to do run the football they could. They ran up the middle, they were able to get on the corners, and it just looked to me like the Eagles were baffled by the whole thing. And then of course they're offense. I mean, there were there are Philly fans calling for Jalen Hurts. What's the backups name, Tommy branch or something like that. Is that his name? The fact that no, I think his name is like Tommy Branch. See if that's his.

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Speaker 2: Name, was it?

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Speaker 3: Kenny Pickett is the AI answer initially, but.

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Speaker 2: That's not as much. We don't have to go to AI.

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Speaker 3: For looking up Churcher McKee and a sam hel.

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Speaker 1: Tanner McKee is the backup.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's second string.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's kind of like Tommy Branch from Stanford. By the way, just qbu is he?

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Speaker 3: Is?

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Speaker 1: He a rookie?

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Speaker 2: It's twenty twenty three draft pick.

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Speaker 1: All right, so Tanner McKee. But there were fans saying put in Tommy Branch because they thought that was his name. But I see why you confused if his own team fans were calling that, But the teammates were like, how's how's Tommy doing over there? They're often I had not watched a full Eagles game with sound because I'm always watching red zone. Their fans are so mean.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they live up to that reputation.

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Speaker 1: They're so mean. I mean, they're always booing people. My mom was was very disappointed in them. Holiday weekend, everyone's with their families and they're out booing people. Yeah, I mean, can you imagine going out with your family on Thanksgiving and just yelling and being angry.

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Speaker 2: Let's go Boo the quarterback. They just want us to Super Bowl. Honey, you're done eating, Let's go Boo. Jalen hurts. It is wild that after he had the big gear and the Nike ads come out, there are people like us, even a top fifteen quarterback, and maybe and it looks like.

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Speaker 1: Saquan's already washed. Like it looks like running backs. Running backs really hit a wall. They just stink immediately, like they have a moment, however long it is is and there's no like nice, graceful aging. You just all of a sudden show up with sun spots and moles and you're hideous. And I feel like that's what's happened to Sakwan Barkley. He's got to still be tired from last year. I think he has one game this year with one hundred yards, which is nuts after he about ran for a billion last year. And it's the second straight game where they've thrown the ball a lot to AJ Brown and it's caused them to lose. So do you think that AJ Brown saying throw me the ball, throw me the ball the ball has actually had the opposite effect.

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Speaker 2: AJ has been too much of a story this year. Yeah, Arthur One, as I call him, I'm still a big fan, never soon left Nashville, but I mean every other week he's a talking point that really has nothing to do with the game. And at some point you got to look in the mirror. You are being a distraction and whining too much. I know you're a receiver and that kind of comes with the brand, but he's been too much.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of like players over the years that the better they do individually, the worse the team is, right, because I think that's Hill a little bit like Stephan Marberry.

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Speaker 2: Wow, pulled that out of nowhere.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean Steph was at first of all, I liked Steph because he sold twenty dollars shoes right at Dick and Larry's or Dick and Harry's Stephen Berry's.

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Speaker 2: There you go, I'll know what the names today.

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Speaker 1: So the name of the place was Stephen Berry's and they had and Steph Marberry would sell starberries. Huh, great name, by the way, And I believe they were like twenty dollars. I actually thought it was a really cool thing they did. And I don't even have one. I'd like to have a pair of Starberries because Dick and Larry's is no longer open.

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Speaker 2: He and Shaq both did that. The hey, shoes are expensive. I'm a big name. I'm gonna make some cheap. Shack did that, Yeah, Shack's Shack moved his to Walmart. I think they both get great now they do.

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Speaker 1: Shak's shoes were really ugly though, like they really only fit feet his size. Maybe he didn't even have a choice, was the last option. But Starberry's were act not bad. Yeah, and he's like a legend in China. I think he went and played over He's the greatest basketball player of all time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: They think he's so he's AJ Brown, Yeah, because AJ Brown when he's like when he's doing well, the team is struggling.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Philly, Philly. I cannot Again. There's a lot of these teams, the teams we thought were just gonna be awesome this year. As we're getting towards the end of the year, they're going the wrong direction. And it's been shocking to me that so many of them, Ravens that we've mentioned, bills and bed losses, chiefs were wondering to think get in. I wouldn't have believed that if you'd said that in September.

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Speaker 1: You know, Billy a young Matt Jones really like Stephen Berry's because they brought one to Middlesbrough. It replaced the k Bart and it was in the Middlesboro Mall and it was all like the only thing they sold we hoodies, and they were all like ten dollars, like every hoodie, and so you could in Middlesboro, Kentucky, in the middle of Appalachia go get a hoodie for like any sports team on the earth, and it was ten dollars. It was even how did they do it?

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Speaker 2: Are these two people Steve an Berry or is it Stephen Berry Steve an Bear? Okay, two dudes, I didn't. I never heard of Ann Behar. You've never heard of this the hibbit and a Roses, but I never never heard of Stephen Berry's.

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Speaker 1: Was the greatest place on our day make twenty dollars star berries and ten dollars hoodies. And I kind of got into hoodies through those. I've given them all away because this may surprise you, they weren't the most durable hoodies. Yeah at ten dollars and.

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Speaker 2: The Super Bowl champs for the wrong team.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, I don't think it was one of those that's where you got you know, I don't think it was. This wasn't a you know, Bill's Champion. It was just but like you could get a wowing hoodie in Millsborough, Kentucky, and that was kind of exciting. Okay, I looked him up. Man.

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Speaker 2: They went bankrupt in two thousand and nine.

00:25:58
Speaker 1: I can see why the profit margin could not have been.

00:26:03
Speaker 2: They're just sitting on a stewage unit full of Wyoming hoodies right now.

00:26:06
Speaker 3: Yeah, anyway, blew your mind though at a young age seeing all those hoodies.

00:26:10
Speaker 1: I mean I was in high school. And like you can tell when they got a new batch too, though, because all of a sudden, Middlesborough High School would have like fifteen Wyoming fans.

00:26:20
Speaker 2: And it was like we all.

00:26:21
Speaker 1: Acted like we separately became Wyoming fan.

00:26:25
Speaker 2: But no, that was just a Christmas gift here.

00:26:26
Speaker 1: And Barry just got new new hoodies.

00:26:29
Speaker 2: This has been an informative podcast. I've already learned I don't have to watch Stranger Things this season. And there's the retail Mario.

00:26:37
Speaker 1: Spoiler alert.

00:26:40
Speaker 2: Mario is not happy about this.

00:26:41
Speaker 1: He's okay, man, he has a car wreck and then he's all right, something kills. I think he's in a coma. I don't know. No, to be fair, I don't know. I don't know that he's in a coma. I've just heard he's in a coma.

00:27:03
Speaker 2: Thank you for relaying that. Let's one less thing to do tonight.

00:27:08
Speaker 1: Now let's go to the Sunday games. Yeah, it was, by the way, it was Maggie Simpson that shot mister Park the baby. If you're a wondering yeah, you are going to give us the lead on all these Sunday games. What was the first?

00:27:27
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I think the biggest game in the one o'clock slate it was the Panthers beating the Rams thirty one to twenty eight. Matthew Matthew Stafford hasn't thrown a pick since week three hundred.

00:27:39
Speaker 2: That's right.

00:27:40
Speaker 1: I like, yes, I had him on the on Matt Myron. He was the guest picker and he sang this live a cappella le It's incredible appella.

00:27:52
Speaker 3: That was the juju they needed. Well, Carolina has seven wins, it's the most since twenty twenty two. Matthew Stafford had thrown only two interceptions all year. He threw for two in this game and had a big fumble at the end of the game, but Pouka and Nakua had a big catch. DeVante Adams passed Antonio Gates on most career receiving touchdowns. But this was all about Carolina and their big win.

00:28:12
Speaker 1: It was actually a really exciting game. It was probably the Panther's crowd. I don't know when I've heard them that loud, because every Panther's touchdown was insane. It would not they would like throw a miracle pass, or Bryce Young would be getting tackled and he would throw. It was a great game, and I think they did it for Carolina. Mike who told me on the pregame show, Drew that he wrote the song in twenty twenty three and he said it didn't get a lot of attention. So in twenty twenty five he was trying to think out a start his career and he goes, what if I write a second verse to one hundred and fifty thousand, And it was the second verse that propelled it to success.

00:28:54
Speaker 2: I like that. That's a man who believed in what he had. He just had a tweak a little bit. Many people would have given up. I tried that song, it didn't work. What's next? No, he said, I just need to make a few little changes and this is going to take off, and it did.

00:29:07
Speaker 1: I love you. I don't know this like whoop there it is, start as whoomp here I am before and then they went, let's try this again, switched it to there it is. The rest is history.

00:29:24
Speaker 2: Tough loss for the Rams, Zoe. I mean, they cost him the one seat. They're in the field goal range there to tie it at the end when Stafford had the bad fumble. It's just a horrible mistake for him on to.

00:29:34
Speaker 1: Him to do that, right.

00:29:35
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean they were kind of in cheap shot territory, could have could have tied it up, and he completely dropped the ball and.

00:29:41
Speaker 1: Hurt his MVP. Will you remember that when you vote?

00:29:45
Speaker 2: As long as they finished strong? Probably not. His year has still been incredible. The run he was on before this game, you don't see quarterbacks through that. But I mean this is a big stain losing to the Panthers.

00:29:54
Speaker 1: Yeah. And as for the Panthers, uh but super Bowl playoffs, I mean they sit there right now, they are seven and six. Chance, wouldn't that be something. I'm rooting for it.

00:30:07
Speaker 2: I mean, I can't be a fan of every NFL team like Billy over here, but I mean this week, your Bears, these Panthers. I'm loving new names that are popping up and making a run. It's it's been good for the NFL and fun to watch.

00:30:18
Speaker 1: I still don't know if Bryce Young's good or not.

00:30:20
Speaker 2: I like he talks like he's good. He said something.

00:30:22
Speaker 1: I kind of don't think he's good, but he's fun. You never know what's gonna happen.

00:30:28
Speaker 2: He still just looks so tiny out there to me, but he said something at the game about how pressure doesn't bother. I mean, he's talking like he's Tom Brady when they're putting the mic in front of him.

00:30:36
Speaker 1: He kind of reminds me of like a George W. Bush speech, which is overall maybe effective, but there are gonna be some moments you're like, what do you?

00:30:45
Speaker 2: What are you?

00:30:45
Speaker 1: What are you talking about?

00:30:47
Speaker 2: By the way, speeches fool.

00:30:48
Speaker 1: Me once, Shame on you, pool me twice.

00:30:52
Speaker 3: Can't be fooled. Game, can't be doing that what.

00:30:56
Speaker 2: I don't want to go backwards too much, but I meant to ask you, what did you think about a different game of our cover your boy Ben Johnson ripping his shirt off in the Bears game.

00:31:04
Speaker 1: I think there's too much ripping off nowadays. I think that used to be the kind of thing you did like once every three or four years, and now because of McAfee, it's like everybody rips their shirt off all the time. So it's for me, it's a little much. I do enjoy his post game speeches. I enjoy the whole filming people's postgame speeches. It's one of my favorite things. Carolina Hurricanes at hockey been doing that for a while. Rod Brendan Moore does speeches and he just says the F word every three seconds, and to beep it, the official account just plays the hockey horn and it just does one after another. And I look forward to him every game. It's becoming like that with the NFL. I enjoy watching and bid Johnson might be the best at it.

00:31:50
Speaker 2: Yeah, and now I am worried he see each week we're getting a little little raunchier. Shirt was off this week, and you know what's coming. Like Madonna and her sex books. Think he winning do whatever he wants.

00:32:03
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's you talk about the toast of the town. I'm excited as a Bears fan. I still I mean, I don't I think we're for real in the sense that we're good. I do not think we're a contender. But I think they're young.

00:32:16
Speaker 2: That's the key.

00:32:17
Speaker 1: They've got a lot of playmakers. I mean, I think we're starting a period that if Calen keeps improving, we could be a contender next year. Of the next year. I agree.

00:32:25
Speaker 2: I'm happy for you. For someone who has no joy in their football life right now, I'm glad at least some people on this podcast can smile.

00:32:45
Speaker 1: Who's next?

00:32:47
Speaker 3: We are a Davis Mills podcast.

00:32:48
Speaker 2: But it was CJ.

00:32:49
Speaker 3: Stroud that came back for the Texans and threw for almost three hundred yards to beat the Colts twenty to sixteen in Indianapolis. Houston's now seven and five while India is eight and four, making up some ground in the division. This was a big game for Houston.

00:33:03
Speaker 1: Great game two and Houston was the better team. And when Davis Mills is your mentor, you you can be very effective. And I thought it was actually a thorough butt kicking by the Texans. I think the Coats were fortunate to have a shot to at least be competitive at the end another week.

00:33:20
Speaker 2: Jonathan Taylor couldn't find the end zone. You know, we were just every week looking up. He's having two or three. He's gone cold, and that was a big part of them shutting them down. Stroud had a good game, didn't find the end zone much, but big turnaround for the Texans. I've been watching them in the Jaguars. It's gonna be a race in that division. I don't think my Titans will catch up, but that was a huge win for the for the Texans.

00:33:42
Speaker 3: Texans have the number one defense in the NFL right now. And you mentioned the other game the Jags beat the Titans twenty five to three. Because of that Indie loss, Jacksonville is now the number one team in the AFC South.

00:33:53
Speaker 1: Yeah.

00:33:54
Speaker 2: I think there're eight four eight four to seven five. That's that's gonna come down this week.

00:33:57
Speaker 1: Supposedly supposed to be the worst division in football, and that it's the most competitive of all of them along with the NFS. And I think all three teams, if not great, are solid, right yeah.

00:34:12
Speaker 2: And I mean the Colts were shocking team. I thought they were gonna suck this year, but they went on that huge run to start the year, but now they've completely cooled off. I mean, nobody's talking about Daniel Jones anymore. Taylor is still great, but hadn't had touchdowns in a couple of weeks. They've run into a wall. I don't know if people figure them out or what's changed, but they're not that team they were in the first five weeks when we couldn't believe how well they were playing.

00:34:31
Speaker 1: Yeah, congrats to Texas. That defense is nasty and Will Anderson, in my opinion, is defensive places career he is. I think they got him. Did they get the pick where they got him in a trade? I feel like they did. I feel like they traded his year to get two first round picks and then picked him and that was a He's a monster, and you know they with him and then Josh Hans Allen with the Jaguars. They got two of the five best defensive line monsters in the AFC South. What's next?

00:35:04
Speaker 3: The San Francisco forty nine or won their third straight game as they beat the Browns twenty six to eight. They're now nine and four in the NFC West, one game behind the Los Angeles Rams. Not the best game for Sdar Sanders. He did throw for a touchdown, but after the game was telling reporters that they had rude questions after the loss.

00:35:23
Speaker 2: He's got who caught the touchdown?

00:35:24
Speaker 3: Billy Harold fannin junior from Bowling.

00:35:27
Speaker 2: Green, Thank you?

00:35:28
Speaker 3: Way?

00:35:28
Speaker 1: Did any of our people score?

00:35:30
Speaker 3: I still have Trevon Henderson tonight. Max Brosmer did not.

00:35:35
Speaker 2: We'll get to him.

00:35:35
Speaker 3: Oh God, what a week he had and then did not score.

00:35:40
Speaker 1: I thought he did.

00:35:41
Speaker 3: No Puka scored. He had, he had a great catch, scored me, achieved against me, Storge, No, it was DeVonta who caught it. I think they scided my integrity. I think they the reverse. Yeah, that was incorrect.

00:35:59
Speaker 1: You have you does the fish? Can we put in an official inquiry?

00:36:03
Speaker 2: Is it too late?

00:36:05
Speaker 3: What's the steward's review of horse race? Maybe thought you had a great catch, did not get in?

00:36:14
Speaker 2: Okay, Davante had two, So you.

00:36:16
Speaker 3: Guys struck out again?

00:36:18
Speaker 2: Uh again, I'm ahead in hindsight. Picking Max Brosmer probably wasn't my finest moment.

00:36:23
Speaker 1: We'll get to him. Yeahs too much. He had one good plass. I don't know why they went for it.

00:36:31
Speaker 2: On fourth and one, Sor was asked about what he thought about that. What did he say? He's clearly not going to say anything about his coach. He just smiled. He's like, I'm just happy to be here, you know, I trust his decisions. Just a complete nonance.

00:36:42
Speaker 1: He's just he's just too much man like that. That attitude, that's Aaron Rodgers' attitude. Without Aaron Rodgers' career, I guess I can't stand Aaron Rodgers' attitude. Dude, if you haven't accomplished anything, you just got to take it down in that.

00:36:56
Speaker 2: A few weeks ago, maybe even last week, I did feel like a reporter was trying to bait him into saying something about his coach, and he wouldn't take it.

00:37:02
Speaker 1: But it's sensible people are going to do. But this one was as simple, what did you think of this?

00:37:05
Speaker 2: For down? You're the quarterback with the ball in your hands. You should have an opinion of what happened on fourth Any people.

00:37:10
Speaker 1: Are gonna give you like he just he's in terms of pr he's a disaster and Kendrick Perkins or not, he needs to chill. And the thing is he seems like very important but also I don't care. Like red Zone almost never showed a minute of his game. You could easily have forgot it was going on. I made a point to watch him against the Raiders, not one time. On Sunday was like, I should check on Sanders today. Yeah, it's like I gave him the one, But I've moved on. What's next.

00:37:43
Speaker 3: The Buccaneers also snapped a three game losing streak. They won at home against the Cardinals twenty to seventeen. Arizona is zero to six and games decided by four points or less this year, which is incredible.

00:37:54
Speaker 1: But isn't that true every year? I feel like they lose every game close every year. I feel like they finished five and twelve with seven one loss games.

00:38:04
Speaker 3: Every season, those four o'clock NF West gams do end in close ones.

00:38:08
Speaker 1: And they in a misery for the Cardinals usually.

00:38:11
Speaker 2: Yeah.

00:38:11
Speaker 3: Well, Trey mcgrid got his eighth touchdown. He looks great as probably the best tight end in the league right now. Bucky Irvin came back and looked good, and Tristan Wurf's scored a touchdown.

00:38:20
Speaker 2: That was the first big Man Ki this year. Billy we talked about the Panthers making a run. Are you worried? Yeah, I mean they're on your heel very word.

00:38:29
Speaker 3: Yes, Bryce Young looks good and they play Carolina two of the last three weeks. Those games will decide the division this year.

00:38:34
Speaker 2: Actually, that'll be entertaining to one.

00:38:35
Speaker 1: It's gonna be exciting because the NFC South's gonna have a game and they will not. It's so big they're not assigning Chris Meyers or Spirodidas that game.

00:38:43
Speaker 2: The last games of FLEX. They might even put that in prime time if it matters.

00:38:46
Speaker 3: Put that at four o'clock or.

00:38:47
Speaker 1: Eight o'clock, eight o'clock on Monday or Tuesday. Tuesday, Chris Fowler's busy Mike Tree goes like, again, how many games do you want to do? What's next?

00:39:02
Speaker 3: Finishing up the NFC South, The Jets came back to beat the Falcons twenty seven to twenty four on a big Tyrod Taylor drive late in the game. The Falcons are a mess, and the Dolphins hung on to beat the Saints twenty one to seventeen, despite the Saints getting an on sidekick on the final drive and then failing on.

00:39:19
Speaker 1: A so exciting Tyler shuck moments there at the end. Both of these games were dreadful. Both of these games made me sad. I did like the Jets stadium did explode on that final touchdown with Tyrod Taylor. I kind of feel like Tyrod Taylor is a man of the people. When he plays, that means things aren't going well, but you're still trying.

00:39:42
Speaker 2: Yeah. But also when you're a fan and your only excitement is Tyrod Taylor and getting the rest of touchdown, it's not like, well, this is our future regular, we found the key to taking the next step.

00:39:53
Speaker 1: By the way, Joy, he could be any age.

00:39:56
Speaker 2: He's got to be a bit pushing.

00:39:57
Speaker 1: You can tell me he's twenty seven or forty seven, and I'm not sure less I think he's thirty.

00:40:05
Speaker 2: Three. I've got the I'm going higher, thirty six, thirty six on the dot.

00:40:10
Speaker 1: That's amazing he's still in the league at thirty six. Because has he ever been like the teams like starter? Has has he ever gone into a season as the team's number one starter? Not?

00:40:22
Speaker 2: Has he? Really?

00:40:23
Speaker 3: I think so? I mean, he's a lot I can't remember. I can give you the teams he's been on, the Bills, the Browns, the Chargers, the Texans, the Giants.

00:40:33
Speaker 2: And the Jets. Wow, that's and he's a Super Bowl cham.

00:40:36
Speaker 1: The only one he might have been the starter going in the season was the Ravens, and that one may have been like his second.

00:40:43
Speaker 2: Or third year.

00:40:44
Speaker 3: He was drafted in twenty eleven, six round pick one hundred and eightieth.

00:40:48
Speaker 2: Overall, he got to give him credit for still being in the league. Pays well.

00:40:52
Speaker 1: Yeah, probably when he's done, he'll be healthy because he spent a lot of time not playing.

00:40:58
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, if he's ever done, he might just play forever. Give it up. Yeah, the Saints result. I was pulling for the Saints, my Titans, with the Jets getting to win. If the Saints had won, we'd have a two game lead for the number one.

00:41:13
Speaker 1: Pick and the Jaguars beat your Titans. Give me my daily Titans review.

00:41:20
Speaker 2: One of the cooler things I've seen the Titans do. They panned the stadium and showed that no one was there on the big screen and then gave away two PSLs to the news Dagum for just someone who would come watch them. So that was pretty nice of him. We had a fight after a hill Mary, so.

00:41:35
Speaker 1: At least we show a look about when when you're getting crushed. Our Kentucky team did that this on.

00:41:40
Speaker 2: It's embarrassing.

00:41:41
Speaker 1: Do you think there's a mount you're down where you shouldn't be allowed to fight?

00:41:45
Speaker 2: Yes? And really if the Titans just the moment they step on the field this year, if you're not gonna fight in the game, I'd rather not actually fist fight the other team. Yeah, who's their coach? It's Callahan still Mike McCoy. Mike McCoy from the Chargers. That's not gonna last. He's just holding the job until they make another bat higher.

00:42:05
Speaker 1: Yeah, this has been a bad Titan I mean last year, well every year.

00:42:09
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know we had the Vaybel Henry Brown team that went to the AFC and then they just completely blew it up, went to the FC Championship and then they just blew that up. That was only like four years ago.

00:42:20
Speaker 1: Maybe Will Levis was better than everyone acted like they had said that at the success with Will Levis just a little bit.

00:42:27
Speaker 2: Watch Will Levy. He won't be a starter next year, but Will Levis still has life in the NFL. You think he's gonna be Tyron Taylor. Maybe, But I thought this last year and a lot of it's because it's Valls fans and they hate him from his UK connections. But I thought they were way too hard on him when he played for a team that was absolutely terrible. He would snap the ball and immediately be running backwards for his life and no one could have been good for them. Last year, it's amazing Ward has done anything.

00:42:50
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, what about the afternoon games?

00:42:53
Speaker 3: Yeah, a couple interesting results in the afternoon games. One of them was the Seahawks beating the Vikings twenty six to zero.

00:42:59
Speaker 2: Sea that interesting.

00:43:01
Speaker 3: It was just because how bad Minnesota's fallen. Okay, so Max Brossmer Brosemur. Some people are saying that's the worst quarterback performance in the league in quite some time. Rookie from Minnesota. Myern Metcalf on my pregame show was saying, brought Brozemer may play so well that they give up on JJ McCarthy. Oh, Myron, No, I think that's fair to say. That's not true. Yeah, it's safe safe to say that.

00:43:31
Speaker 1: He had the second worst quarterback rating of a quarterback in a game in the last four years.

00:43:36
Speaker 2: I think anytime you have more interceptions than your team has points. It was a pretty rough day. He had four picks that had zero points. That's that's a pretty personally first bad while. I know it was in Seattle, but you're looking across the way and there's Sam Darnold, who should still be your quarterbacks. Vikings fans had to it was an double loss for them.

00:43:55
Speaker 1: That's an embarrassment. Tough year for the Vikings.

00:43:59
Speaker 2: I mean last year's excitement.

00:44:00
Speaker 1: Last year, didn't they go fifteen and two, and they thought they just hand this off to McCarthy this year as the future should have stuck with it. Now they're like not only the worst team in the division, they're the team in the division with the worst future as well.

00:44:13
Speaker 2: Now I think they only have one win in like several weeks, like they won a few early in the year. They have four in total, but mostly they're all on the front end. They just keep losing.

00:44:22
Speaker 1: I don't care about the Chargers and the writers like honestly.

00:44:26
Speaker 3: Well, Herbert got hurt. He had to have it surgery today on his left hand.

00:44:30
Speaker 1: Well, everybody keeps hurting their offhand. I guess your off hand doesn't matter, does it.

00:44:35
Speaker 3: Well, your non throwing hand definitely matters less than your throwing hand for a quarterback. Thank you, doctor breaking So, I mean, if if you injure your non throwing hand, you just keep on going.

00:44:53
Speaker 1: Doc's not wrong. Doctor Rutledge would like you to know that the throwing hand is more important than the non throwing hand. Quarterbacks always get their offensive line in these gifts, always these packages.

00:45:07
Speaker 2: Yeah, justin Herbert.

00:45:08
Speaker 1: Needs a Venmo request his offensive line, like, yo, owe me money, You're gonna get me killed. Yeah, that's one of your best ones.

00:45:15
Speaker 2: Thank you.

00:45:15
Speaker 1: I think I didn't know this game happened until we got here.

00:45:20
Speaker 2: The only thing I really saw was Max Crossby just bulldoze Herbert over after play. Cares me.

00:45:41
Speaker 1: If you were to rank the NFL players that you'd least like to see coming after you in a fight or.

00:45:48
Speaker 2: Just in life, he's in my top five. Who's your number one? It could be him because it's his circumstances. He has nothing to lose. He plays for the Raiders like he'll fight, he'll get kicked out, he doesn't care.

00:46:01
Speaker 1: I just mean life. Like you're in a bar and say you're you see a guy and he's staring you down. Who are you most scared of?

00:46:13
Speaker 2: Miles Garrett comes to mind, but I think he's got a friendly side that I could maybe hope breaks out Crosby with it with the tag. He's just an intimidating presence. But Miles Garrett would be probably one on just size and cheer. He and Aaron Donald. I know he's retired, but that's another one. I want to scared of Aaron Donald. Now he does like that m m A where they have knives out, and that dude's just wild. Really. Yeah, he's like blocking knives with his bare hands. You look it up type Aaron Donald knives.

00:46:42
Speaker 3: I've seen him do that in practice, not blocking knives with yes.

00:46:47
Speaker 2: Yes, I mean he's like blocking the arms. He's like grabbing the knife, but I mean they're swinging knives to him and he's just jud album. Yeah, that's actually he's my answer. I know he's retired, that's the answer. Huh.

00:47:00
Speaker 1: What about quarterbacks?

00:47:01
Speaker 2: Who would you most be scared of? That's a quarterback?

00:47:03
Speaker 1: And then who would you be least scared of?

00:47:05
Speaker 2: Russell Wilson. Yeah, great answer that one.

00:47:09
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna say, Jared Goff, I'll say your life's on the line, you have to fight one quarterback Okay, who are my options? Russell Wilson, Let's throw Jared goff in there.

00:47:21
Speaker 2: I'm going to Aaron Rodgers. That's my best shot.

00:47:25
Speaker 1: No, see, I feel like Aaron Rodgers has watched some YouTube video of how to Kill You with True Gardens or something.

00:47:32
Speaker 2: I was just trying to think of age where i'd have my best shot. He looked rough because he yeah, he looked like it had already been beating up.

00:47:39
Speaker 1: Yeah, well we'll do him in a second. Yeah, he he. I mean that's not a terrible call, but I feel like he knows Kyler.

00:47:45
Speaker 3: Murray, brock Perty, brock.

00:47:47
Speaker 1: Perdy's a good one. Yeah, I like brock Perdy is the pick. This would be a great graphic for the NFL. Which quarterback cou covers zero beat up? The really answer is we'd lose all of them. No, I could beat up Brockerty.

00:48:05
Speaker 3: We started the show it up.

00:48:08
Speaker 1: I feel like me and Drew versus brock Party and Mac Jones.

00:48:12
Speaker 2: No, I'd rather Mac Jones, sue. I think I think I can take two. No, who is too quick for you?

00:48:21
Speaker 1: He's just got a lot going on, you know, Yeah, I think, Yeah, who's the South? You don't know I'm sacked South. It's perfect, perfect matchup. Yeah, I like your brock party pick. I still think Jared Goff those up there in the old days, you would have wanted to fight Peyton Manning.

00:48:37
Speaker 2: Yeah, Peyton mann it would be good.

00:48:39
Speaker 1: Otto Graham, did we do the quarterback? We want to fight least? That's a good question. Well, I mean you initially would say who's the biggest. The biggest is probably I mean Jalen Hurts, but I feel like I.

00:48:54
Speaker 2: Wouldn't want Dack to punch me.

00:48:56
Speaker 3: Davis Mills and that neck.

00:48:59
Speaker 2: That stuff, you couldn't land the knockout at all. He's like the Rock and Stocking robots for.

00:49:03
Speaker 1: The c J. Stroud might be up there six or four reipped.

00:49:07
Speaker 2: Trying to think who's crazy? Look a little crazy? He'll throw you off.

00:49:11
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know, like CJ. Stroud for that one too. Of all right, what's next? Uh?

00:49:16
Speaker 3: Yeah, you mentioned Aaron Rodgers. The Pittsburgh Steelers lost to the Bills twenty six to seven in an ugly game. He already had a cast on his hand he kind of reinjured it during the game. Josh Allen, meanwhile, breaks the record for rushing touchdowns by a quarterback, keyon Coleman gets in the end zone. There's been a lot of drama there. The Bills advanced to eight and four on the year. Meanwhile, Pittsburgh is on top of that AFC North, but you just don't know how that division's gonna go right now.

00:49:41
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say that game went about as well for the Steelers as the correct for the guy in stranger things like it was you're saying there hema another game that was never close. You know, they had that one drive, the last drive Aaron Rodgers. But I feel like I'm finally getting what I hoped for was my vengeance on Aaron Rodgers being awful as has happened.

00:50:06
Speaker 2: Right that screenshot of his face where it did look like he had just got out of a twelve round boxing fight, it looks a lot yes, during the game, Yeah, that wasn't the guy that was on the graphic when he went out to tair snap. Also, my biggest takeaway from this is did you hear them yelling fire Tomlin? It wasn't like five people that stadium sounded in Unison, and they showed his face and he even he was like, oh my god, is it this Ben. He's been there close to twenty.

00:50:31
Speaker 1: Years, and I guess that's why they I mean, he I don't know. I don't know how it would feel if I was a Steelers fan, because they've never been bad, but they also don't look they've not been good in a while. So what do you do?

00:50:47
Speaker 2: Is it Tomlin's fault that they have Aaron Rodgers? Did he have a role in that? Because if he didn't, I feel like I feel bad for him if he had was forced Aaron Rodgers and now he's getting booed because I don't know what his role is in picking, but I'll be sympathetic if he wasn't all in on Aaron Rodgers.

00:51:00
Speaker 3: Was it Russ and Justin Fields before that?

00:51:03
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it hadn't been good for a while, But I just thought, gu guys or do other people?

00:51:09
Speaker 1: Can he pick it? Before that? And they had nobody since Roethlis Murger just didn't expect that stay. I didn't think we'd hear fire Tomlin chance at any point. It's a little sad because I mean, he seems like a good guy. I mean, the one thing is the moment they get rid of him, another coach will pick him up immediately, that's right. And for our unt you like him in Tennessee. Oh yeah, better than some of the options they're saying.

00:51:30
Speaker 2: Yeah, what were we gonna say? Uh, for our for our Kentucky audience, this was a big game for former Cats one. Our guy Ray Davis just keeps getting better for the Bills. They love him in Buffalo. But a blast from the past. Brandon Echols had an interception for the Steelers. So I'll watched this whole game and heard some familiar names for our our local audience.

00:51:46
Speaker 1: That's uh, that's good. By the way, Louisville is playing Indiana and basketball on Saturday. It is Dave O'Brien, Dick Vautell, and Charles Barkley on the call.

00:51:57
Speaker 2: Barkley and vatel Wow, I mean that's that's kind of cool with me. Yeah, I didn't even consider we get Barkley doing stuff like this when they made that murder. What's Barkley on? He's on ESPN, Say get a lot of this now, Oh, we got to get Barkley a rup That would be.

00:52:15
Speaker 1: Kind of cool, to be honest, Barkley calling games, Parker calling anything signed me up.

00:52:19
Speaker 2: Yeah, he can very very nice guy. So yeah.

00:52:22
Speaker 1: And as far as the Bills, uh bounce back, they played the big game. Who they got this week with the Bengals at home, you know they they're gonna make. I think they're of the sort of contenders that have disappointed. They're the ones with the best shot at actually getting in the playoffs.

00:52:39
Speaker 2: I have something Bills related on you to confess, and I don't want to confess it, but I feel like I have to tell you all. Go for it. A couple of nights ago and I did this alone. I watched the Hallmark Bills movie. The opening scene is that the Hallmark Bills movie. They made a Christmas Bill's love story. The scene the opening scene is bar Bill where you did ESPN, And I'm like, oh, I screamed to my TV. I was like, I was just there last week and it's showing the tailgating. Now what channel is the Hallmark? It's an all Hallmark Christmas movie about what.

00:53:11
Speaker 1: It's like a romance movie about the Bill, and they're going to everything we did just a couple of weeks ago.

00:53:17
Speaker 2: So I don't love confessing that. I watched that alone in my private time during the holiday break, and.

00:53:21
Speaker 1: I wasn't good, was it?

00:53:22
Speaker 2: No? No, And I wouldn't have told anyone I did this, but it was pretty cool. I mean the opening scene is at a bar with exactly where we were sitting to start our trip just a few weeks ago. Big Tree in excuse me, they call it bar Bill and that's maybe a different name on the movie, but yes, the Big tre Tree end is where it was.

00:53:38
Speaker 1: I have a friend that lives in Louisville and she is only in Hallmark movies.

00:53:44
Speaker 3: What a gig.

00:53:45
Speaker 1: But she's like the friend in every Hallmark movie. So I don't know if you watch Hallmark movies, but a lot of them are filmed in Oldham County, Kentucky for some reason, and she plays like friend of the bride in all of them. So if you watch a lot, you might see this red hair girl that's like, well, weren't you the friend of the person in the other movie? And she's been in like eight Hallmark movies in the last two years.

00:54:10
Speaker 2: It's so sweet. They just keep making them. I mean, you don't have to change up your acting like I'll be back next year.

00:54:15
Speaker 1: No, they just do the same thing, just in a different place. Every movie is guy comes to town. At first, she's not sure about him, then they fall in love.

00:54:23
Speaker 2: Or city girl, copywriter at the big marketing firm, comes home and falls in love with the farmer. He doesn't want to go back. That's exactly right, and not to keep talking, confessing that I watched the Bills Love Storm movie, but our guy Ray Davis isn't it too, so he's in it as a new part of Bill's mafia. I enjoyed Ray Davis is in the Bill. Yes, I enjoyed. It's literally like they took our trip and made a Christmas love movie out of it.

00:54:46
Speaker 1: It was kind of its own Christmas love.

00:54:47
Speaker 2: You should watch it. That's a recommendation, all right, what's the last one? Yeah?

00:54:50
Speaker 3: Finally, Sunday Night, Denver beat Washington twenty seven to twenty six. The Commanders go for two in overtime for the win, but Mariota's pass is batted away.

00:55:00
Speaker 1: Why was there? I mean, Con'sworth pointed out, great play call all he's got to do get it up in the air. It's a wild drive too. It was a great drive. I thought going for two is the right decision. It was right there. Do you like is when teams win overtime, they defer. That's becoming. I think they've done it seven out of eleven games, but they're but it usually ends up with them having to go for two. You like that.

00:55:28
Speaker 2: I get why they're doing it, but even last night, I just wanted to kick the extra points so I have more football.

00:55:32
Speaker 1: I just the tied up, so I watched the other team. But I get where you're the commands to go though, Like, what do you want to tie? What's that gonna?

00:55:39
Speaker 2: You're a inn re win team. Yeah, I might have had the over. H you're a three win team. I completely get why they did it. My big takeaway from this and I couldn't wait to bring this up with you and my wife were sitting on the couch. She goes, why does Chris Collinsworth keep saying Marcus Mariota like that? And I don't know if you all noticed, but the whole game, and I even searched it on Twitter, other people were noticing it. He kept saying Marcus Mariyota like he would do this the loud tough and the Internet. It's like, why is he saying it that way? Like Thenesse, Yeah, I could not enjoy the game because I kept thinking, why is he doing this?

00:56:10
Speaker 1: No, Marcus Mariota, Yes, and he would say Marcus Mariota.

00:56:14
Speaker 2: And he would really emphasize it. And I'm thinking, I watched this guy play for the Titans for several years. I've never heard anyone say his name like that. But he was throwing me Offcas Mariota drops back, enunciating odd syllables. You know you're right, You're Tennessee and your Halloween.

00:56:30
Speaker 1: TV TV Kleb Williams. Yeah, so Marcus mayor Eota.

00:56:39
Speaker 2: It's the tie. He was throwing that tie in their heart. Just never heard it done that way, never heard either.

00:56:44
Speaker 3: I did think of you, Drew, because Traylon Burks had maybe the catching of God.

00:56:48
Speaker 2: Besides, we gave up AJ Brown for him. AJ Brown went to more Super Bowls than he had touchdowns, and then of course he goes and makes it.

00:56:57
Speaker 1: B Broncos are ten and two. You think they're a Super Bowl contender?

00:57:01
Speaker 2: I keep wanting to think no, but they just keep winning one nine in a row. Yeah, they keep But I don't know.

00:57:07
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. I don't know that I believe in any of any team. It's gonna be a great year. I don't think any team is good. Like go to the NFC, the Bears the one seed, Do I think they are gonna win it? No top seeds in the AFC.

00:57:21
Speaker 3: Are Denver, Denver, New England, Jacksonville. I don't believe in any of them either, Baltimore. I don't believe in anybody. Is it possible to believe in nobody but the Broncos. Their schedule is for real. I mean, Billy mentioned how many games they've won in a row. Their only losses were Week two and three by one point and three points at Indianapolis, who was on fire at the time, and at the Chargers, who had.

00:57:44
Speaker 2: Just beaten the Chiefs. That's the only two blips on their entire resume.

00:57:47
Speaker 1: But I don't think anybody's good. And because I don't think anybody's good, somebody's got to bake it. So actually I think follow my logic here. I'm with you, because no one's good and no one can make the super Bowl than anyone can make the super Bowl.

00:58:02
Speaker 2: Wow, that's almost that's what there was, Billy. We you know what your quarterback tore is throwing, and I think it's more brilliant than you're giving it credit.

00:58:09
Speaker 1: For billies are yours? If no one is good, no, this is bad. If no one is good, then everyone is good.

00:58:17
Speaker 2: It's a good point, right. It's like I had an accounting class in college and they were notorious for grading bad, but they would tell you, like, a se is good in this class. That's like the highest people get. When everybody got c's, we went home smiling, even though you know it was a pretty tough class.

00:58:34
Speaker 1: Sees were good. So that's my take on this year. No one's good, and no one has a chance to make the super Bowl. So everyone has a chance to make the Super.

00:58:45
Speaker 2: It is the most at this point, the most open I think the playoffs will be in a long time.

00:58:49
Speaker 1: It's esoteric. It's what you were trying to say.

00:58:51
Speaker 2: That's the word, the one you did earlier. That dude.

00:58:58
Speaker 1: Their election, their election of duty. They always say that about presidents.

00:59:03
Speaker 2: Their elections. I'm wrong. Their elections are in November.

00:59:07
Speaker 3: Now.

00:59:08
Speaker 1: They say that, like a president screwed something up and it was a dereliction of duty. Gotcha, So dereliction and uh.

00:59:15
Speaker 2: What was what's the one? I just said?

00:59:18
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that one too. Those are the two words of the day.

00:59:24
Speaker 3: If I told you before the season started to be the Bears and the Broncos as the one seeds before December.

00:59:29
Speaker 1: Show you gotting good odds on them. Yeah yeah, but that's not going to be the super Bowl.

00:59:34
Speaker 2: Or what it is?

00:59:37
Speaker 1: Your Bears in the super Bowl super Bowl, which means it has to be the super Bowl.

00:59:45
Speaker 3: I'm following the lot.

00:59:46
Speaker 1: I think you are all right. So what's Monday Night football? Tonight?

00:59:49
Speaker 2: We got a thriller the Pats and Giants in New England.

00:59:53
Speaker 1: I both think the Giants will cover this game, right, even though they probably won't win.

00:59:57
Speaker 2: They come out the spreads more than a touchdown the NFL. That's a big number, you know. Giants with two wins obviously not big favorite here, probably not gonna win, but I think they'll play close. Being Monday Night, Patriots got to cool off a little bit at some point. They're doing all their winning on the road. I think the Giants can hang.

01:00:14
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jackson Dark's back. I think Cam Scatabo's got a taping the Secret Lives of Mormon Housewives, so he will not be there, but Jackson dark Bag might make it fun right. Yeah.

01:00:24
Speaker 2: And I saw Ceedee Lamb on a podcast this weekend, just raving about Wandell Robinson and how he's one of the best receivers in the league this year. So you know, even though the Giants are that has a great throat at the trash game. Thank you very much, left handed. Yeah, I saw across the room, but Wandell has been huge quietly for a two win team. Happy to see that and seeing other receivers give this credit. I feel like it's been well deserved.

01:00:44
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we'll take the Giants to cover Billy. Who was your knockout pick.

01:00:50
Speaker 3: It was the Dolphins who ended up holding on gambled a little bit.

01:00:55
Speaker 1: You did gamble, so you're still in it. I noticed that the professional survivor leagues required you to pick a Thursday Friday game and then a Saturday Sunday game. And in the circle one, I want to say, there might have been like two hundred people or two hundred and fifty people left, and like it's down to like ten because the four favorite on the Thursday game, all the favorites lost all four of them, so.

01:01:22
Speaker 2: You'll have to pick two next week.

01:01:25
Speaker 1: No, I mean right now, like there's only Sunday Monday games. I mean, we did take to miss two weeks, but you're still in it. So we'll pick. We'll pick on Wednesday, and you you're but you're still in it.

01:01:35
Speaker 3: All right, I'll keep it roll until next year. We're gonna we're not gonna take a lost.

01:01:39
Speaker 2: You're probably good at this.

01:01:41
Speaker 1: Like there's so few things.

01:01:43
Speaker 2: You're good at.

01:01:43
Speaker 3: Nothing ought about it that like.

01:01:45
Speaker 1: The fact that you're really good at this is kind of it's kind of exhilarating, isn't it.

01:01:49
Speaker 3: It's my job.

01:01:50
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, well, thank you folks very much. Sorry for the delay in getting it out, but we got a little detained by other things. But we'll be back on probably Wednesday, maybe Thursday, but probably Wednesday. This has been a comver seon.

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