Walter Emanuel Jones (Power Rangers)

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<v Speaker 4>Hey everybody, Dana here with a quick message to let
<v Speaker 4>you all know that if you're wondering why the content
<v Speaker 4>discussed in today's episode at times feels a little bit
<v Speaker 4>dated and while we all look about ten kilos lighter,
<v Speaker 4>it's because it was in fact filmed back in October
<v Speaker 4>of twenty twenty three. That's right, almost eighteen months ago.
<v Speaker 5>Now.
<v Speaker 4>We fact thought we'd lost the footage, but thankfully producer
<v Speaker 4>Chris he managed to go down deep into the archive
<v Speaker 4>and source all of the material, so we figured now
<v Speaker 4>was a better time than ever to get it out
<v Speaker 4>to you all. I know you're going to absolutely love it,
<v Speaker 4>particularly if you're a power angeress. Found like my because
<v Speaker 4>we have the one and only Black Ranger himself, mister
<v Speaker 4>Walter and Manuel Jones discussing all the behind the scenes
<v Speaker 4>of the original Mighty Morphin Power Ranger. So it was
<v Speaker 4>such a blast to be able to chat with the
<v Speaker 4>Black Power Ranger. But before we get into that, though,
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<v Speaker 4>sit back and enjoy today's conversation with the one and
<v Speaker 4>only Black Power Ranger from the Money Morphrom Power Rangers
<v Speaker 4>Walter and Manuel Jones from back in October of twenty
<v Speaker 4>twenty three.
<v Speaker 1>How you doing out there. It's me Tiger, I am
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<v Speaker 6>It's me Bunkers Deep Bobcat. All right, y'all, did.
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<v Speaker 2>No?
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<v Speaker 3>My name is Jim Cummings and welcome to tuned In.
<v Speaker 3>Welcome back everybody to tuned In with Jim Cummings. Today
<v Speaker 3>we have a special treat for you none other then
<v Speaker 3>You know them, you love them, you can't live without them.
<v Speaker 3>Walter Jones, the Black Power Major himself. Welcome, Welcome, What
<v Speaker 3>was it buddy, How you doing, man, Good to see you, man.
<v Speaker 1>It's always good to be seen.
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, ain't at the truth. Usually we see each other
<v Speaker 6>at convention.
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, and I love that. It's like it's like having
<v Speaker 2>an uncle Jim with.
<v Speaker 6>Me coin too.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I don't.
<v Speaker 6>We don't hate that party either, not at all.
<v Speaker 1>Have you met Brandon.
<v Speaker 2>I've met Brandon, uh just recently. Actually Brandon that.
<v Speaker 4>Man about a minute ago.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was a minute and a half ago. I
<v Speaker 1>got my watch on. Yes, and obviously producer Chris.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, producer Chris, the very tall, producer Christ Dashing. It's
<v Speaker 2>the it's the hair on the face all black. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>I used to have the black days like this. I'm
<v Speaker 2>coming to pepper now. Yeah, go into myself.
<v Speaker 1>It's got pepper. Yeah, I'm okay. I hope there's those
<v Speaker 1>spaghetti states. That's then otherwise I was spaghetti said you're
<v Speaker 1>doing Oh that's good. Well, I'm glad you're here.
<v Speaker 3>Man.
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate happy to be here. Thank you for inviting me.
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate it. It's it's always to be it's always
<v Speaker 1>a pleasure of being in your company.
<v Speaker 2>And oh and I also I have a great gratitude
<v Speaker 2>for you for not only for you being such a
<v Speaker 2>big part of my childhood and like being all the
<v Speaker 2>characters that I've grown up to love. But I can
<v Speaker 2>recall the time where my daughter it was her birthday
<v Speaker 2>and I asked you to say hello to our and
<v Speaker 2>you called and left a message for my daughter and
<v Speaker 2>the voice of Winnie the Pooh that I kept because
<v Speaker 2>I loved it. I was like, oh my god, we
<v Speaker 2>need the pools. Looking at my daughter, it was awesome.
<v Speaker 1>It was so cool.
<v Speaker 2>Man.
<v Speaker 1>I loved it, and and I just great. I've always
<v Speaker 1>had gratitude for that. Oh I'm glad she's fifty now.
<v Speaker 1>No she's not fifteen. No, okay, because I was thinking
<v Speaker 1>that could have been a long time ago. Now she's fifteen. Fifteen.
<v Speaker 1>It's always close. Yeah, close, yeah, God, bless it. It's
<v Speaker 1>got five minutes. Yeah, yeah, that's right. Oh those are
<v Speaker 1>the beings.
<v Speaker 5>She is.
<v Speaker 2>She into Power Rangers, you said, not as much as
<v Speaker 2>my fans are, so yeah, she's in a dad so
<v Speaker 2>I'm dad.
<v Speaker 1>But her and my son are, like, you know, they seen.
<v Speaker 2>The pow Rangers and they like the pow Rangers, but
<v Speaker 2>they don't know everything about the bar Rangers. They're like, oh, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>we saw a couple of episodes because that that that's
<v Speaker 2>what as long as you were in it exactly, So
<v Speaker 2>it's all good. But they'll be the first one to go.
<v Speaker 2>Would you like me to hold your camera? I'll take
<v Speaker 2>the picture for you.
<v Speaker 1>So that's cool. Yeah, so it's cool. That's beautiful.
<v Speaker 4>I'm personally a naughtiest kid, so I very much grew
<v Speaker 4>up and loved the original series. I never really got
<v Speaker 4>into any of the series that followed the original money
<v Speaker 4>more from one, and you weren't really a part of
<v Speaker 4>those ones either, since you left the original show in
<v Speaker 4>season two?
<v Speaker 1>Is that right?
<v Speaker 3>I did so.
<v Speaker 2>Originally when we booked the show, we did the pilot
<v Speaker 2>and I was told if the pilot gets picked up,
<v Speaker 2>they're going to do forty episodes, that'd be the first season. Well,
<v Speaker 2>I've spent most of my life thinking that I did
<v Speaker 2>two and a half seasons, because I did eighty five episodes.
<v Speaker 2>But I but it was actually the first season was
<v Speaker 2>sixty episodes, or that's the way they sell the DVDs,
<v Speaker 2>so it was sixty episodes in the first season. And
<v Speaker 2>I did another twenty five. So I did the first
<v Speaker 2>and part of the second season.
<v Speaker 1>That's a lot. That's a lot of episodes. It was
<v Speaker 1>on every day, Yeah, every day, so yeah, seven days
<v Speaker 1>a week or five it was.
<v Speaker 2>It was, well, it was five days and then eventually
<v Speaker 2>it turned on to six days. They added on a Saturday,
<v Speaker 2>so yeah.
<v Speaker 1>So it was it was.
<v Speaker 6>It was the thing, man, you know, like that show
<v Speaker 6>was huge.
<v Speaker 2>It came on and we kind of took over right away.
<v Speaker 2>It was an amazing thing to behold and be part
<v Speaker 2>of that.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, it was absolutely the gift that keeps on giving.
<v Speaker 1>It does it does?
<v Speaker 2>I mean, we're we're celebrating our thirtieth anniversary, thirty years
<v Speaker 2>of Power Agers, which is amazing because I was I
<v Speaker 2>was at a comic con this is last week, and
<v Speaker 2>I saw my auntie, my dad's sister. I haven't seen
<v Speaker 2>her in like twenty years or maybe maybe the last
<v Speaker 2>fifteen years, but still a long time, and she recalled
<v Speaker 2>me showing her the pilot and her saying to me,
<v Speaker 2>are you.
<v Speaker 1>Sure that this is what you really want to do?
<v Speaker 3>Oh?
<v Speaker 1>Bless her heart? And then the show blew up.
<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean that was the pilot granted, the pilot
<v Speaker 2>wasn't as polished as the show was so and the pilot,
<v Speaker 2>you know, they had.
<v Speaker 1>They made some changes. She got better, and that's natural,
<v Speaker 1>that's that's the thing.
<v Speaker 2>But they'd seen the pilot originally and were like, oh,
<v Speaker 2>my family was like Pappy in the back.
<v Speaker 1>That's actually at it. Something's good, happen something, yeah, something eventually.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, only in one of the most successful franchises of
<v Speaker 3>all time. But don't worry, it'll pan out.
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't that at the time, but it is now.
<v Speaker 2>So now they've all forgiven. Forgive, I've forgiven all of them.
<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes, well I remember when I first started. I
<v Speaker 3>told my parents, I told him this like my whole
<v Speaker 3>life though.
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, so they knew.
<v Speaker 3>I mean I started off being annoying as a child
<v Speaker 3>with all doing all the voices and you know, doing
<v Speaker 3>dolphins and you know all of that. And I told
<v Speaker 3>my parents, you know that I was gonna I was
<v Speaker 3>going to grow up. And I was because I saw
<v Speaker 3>mel blank and I said, I want to do that.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I do it all.
<v Speaker 3>I was like five, and I said I'd do it
<v Speaker 3>for free anyway, I might as well get somebody paying
<v Speaker 3>me to you yeah, okay, well you live in Youngstown, Ohio.
<v Speaker 3>You're going to work in a steel mill, you know,
<v Speaker 3>and it's a right okay, So I moved and and
<v Speaker 3>you know, I remember that my dad. I sent for
<v Speaker 3>my mom and dad. They're both gone, God restless. So
<v Speaker 3>but they came out and they saw a.
<v Speaker 1>I think it might have been a Chippendale Rescue Rangers,
<v Speaker 1>might have been a.
<v Speaker 3>Winner to pooh. But my dad still didn't quite get it.
<v Speaker 3>He said, so, okay, this is good. Well, what are
<v Speaker 3>you going to do for a living?
<v Speaker 1>Well, this is it. This is it, dad, I'm doing it.
<v Speaker 6>I just you just left the building when I was
<v Speaker 6>making a living.
<v Speaker 4>You know.
<v Speaker 6>He goes, well, how much did you make?
<v Speaker 1>And I told him.
<v Speaker 3>He goes, shit, you know, pardon my friends, God damn.
<v Speaker 3>So you made a month in the last four hours.
<v Speaker 6>And I go, yeah, there you go.
<v Speaker 2>Now you get it now, see yeah, yeah, And I
<v Speaker 2>got the rest of the day something something about being
<v Speaker 2>creative is amazing.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>And you can work.
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, if you can sustain it.
<v Speaker 1>If you can sustain it.
<v Speaker 6>That's and eighty five. That's that's some sustenance.
<v Speaker 1>It was, well, you.
<v Speaker 2>Would think it was sustenance. It was non UNI show,
<v Speaker 2>so the show didn't pay well. I mean like I
<v Speaker 2>made I did. I did car shows after I left
<v Speaker 2>the show, and I made in a weekend on a
<v Speaker 2>car show more than I made in forty episodes.
<v Speaker 1>Dang, yeah, forty episodes. Yeah, well that was the hell
<v Speaker 1>of a car show. It was.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it was, you know, and back then at
<v Speaker 2>that time, it was definitely an eye opener as to
<v Speaker 2>what I worth, and I tell you was and it
<v Speaker 2>was like, well, I think maybe every ide the right decision.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.
<v Speaker 4>Didn't you guys film all of or at least most
<v Speaker 4>of the episodes of season one before the show even aired.
<v Speaker 4>I mean, you wouldn't even known that you were on
<v Speaker 4>a hit show, not.
<v Speaker 1>All of them.
<v Speaker 2>We shot probably twenty episodes before it aired, and then
<v Speaker 2>we started shooting four episodes every two weeks, so knock
<v Speaker 2>it out.
<v Speaker 1>So you had it. You had a little bank of,
<v Speaker 1>yeah reserve, we're little reserves to keep up with the demand.
<v Speaker 1>And uh.
<v Speaker 2>And then we also were doing you know, voiceover because
<v Speaker 2>we had looping over the Japanese footage, which was interesting
<v Speaker 2>because you know, we never knew what we're going to see.
<v Speaker 2>When we saw it, I was like Okay you wanted
<v Speaker 2>to say that over that. Okay, yeah, try to make it.
<v Speaker 1>Work, you know. But it was fun.
<v Speaker 6>It was and they were still in their masks.
<v Speaker 1>They were still in the mask, right, so that was good.
<v Speaker 6>You didn't have to fiddle with right with the lip no.
<v Speaker 1>Lipsynching, right, but we had the body sink because you
<v Speaker 1>were lips. You were the lips. Yeah, we were the lips.
<v Speaker 5>What's body sinking? That's the first time I heard that.
<v Speaker 2>Well, pow Rangers there, they were very active, like it
<v Speaker 2>was like, you know, there were this and and you
<v Speaker 2>know in the in the zords kind of doing like, hey,
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna do stuff, and so you'll be like.
<v Speaker 1>Zach here, what did it rock?
<v Speaker 2>You know, like that kind of thing. So I needed
<v Speaker 2>to match the body movement to make the right right
<v Speaker 2>what I was saying as that, Yeah, but I've done looping.
<v Speaker 2>I've done looping where I actually I had to do
<v Speaker 2>a lot of lip syncing. I did about maybe about
<v Speaker 2>eighty films or television shows. Uh, as a looping you know,
<v Speaker 2>looping artist, Yeah, an actor, which is definitely challenging because
<v Speaker 2>then you really have to try to match the lips
<v Speaker 2>and come up with what they might be Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Not my favorite thing.
<v Speaker 4>No, what's the process like for that? Because Jim you
<v Speaker 4>said you've done it as well. How difficult is it
<v Speaker 4>to match them all up?
<v Speaker 2>Well, they the person that runs the loop session kind
<v Speaker 2>of has an idea of what's coming, and so they'll
<v Speaker 2>have a selection of actors and they'll go, okayn, we
<v Speaker 2>have you in mind for this to k thing and
<v Speaker 2>and and so you'll watch it. You'll see it come up,
<v Speaker 2>and you'll watch what they're doing because basically they're they're
<v Speaker 2>extras in the background of the scene, acting without speaking,
<v Speaker 2>but they're going right, So they're doing stuff like that,
<v Speaker 2>and you have to give it some personality and kind
<v Speaker 2>of match what they might be.
<v Speaker 1>Saying and you know, make it make sense for the
<v Speaker 1>scenk mm hm. Yah, it's fun, it's creative.
<v Speaker 5>Do you know if they they choose certain dialogue, like
<v Speaker 5>certain phraseology, I guess I'm thinking of Squid Games And
<v Speaker 5>that was like one of the best dubbing shows I've
<v Speaker 5>ever seen, because it really looked like they were saying
<v Speaker 5>like speaking in English at certain times, and what was
<v Speaker 5>running through my mind is like, Okay, they had to
<v Speaker 5>have written like that specific dialogue to get the like like,
<v Speaker 5>you know, the what is it.
<v Speaker 1>Called the sink panetics or the oh right, yeah.
<v Speaker 5>What's that word that you use for the Pooh story?
<v Speaker 2>Oh?
<v Speaker 5>Phonyms? Yeah, I feel like they have to write. Do
<v Speaker 5>you know anything about that?
<v Speaker 2>I don't know because I'm not the writer. However, it
<v Speaker 2>was it's rare that they actually had something written. Every occasionally,
<v Speaker 2>they would write something that I needed to say, unless
<v Speaker 2>I was doing a voice match, because I voicematched different
<v Speaker 2>characters of voice match, you know, like Kevin Hart and
<v Speaker 2>various other actors, you know, for something that they didn't
<v Speaker 2>want to call them in for, but they were like,
<v Speaker 2>can you match his voice? And I do that kind
<v Speaker 2>of thing, and then it was specific dialogue. But otherwise
<v Speaker 2>it's all improvisational.
<v Speaker 5>Okay, yeah, that's cool.
<v Speaker 1>That is fun. Good for you.
<v Speaker 5>Can you give us a Kevin Hart?
<v Speaker 1>Kevin, No, you're too tald. I need to be listening
<v Speaker 1>to his voice and then redo it.
<v Speaker 2>I'm not an impressionist, you know, like some actors are
<v Speaker 2>really really good at doing impressions.
<v Speaker 1>That's not necessarily who I am.
<v Speaker 2>Although when I was a kid that my dad used
<v Speaker 2>to go, we get in a car going you know
<v Speaker 2>he'd be taking us to the movies and hey, walk,
<v Speaker 2>can you do an impression of Muhammad Ali? And I
<v Speaker 2>was like, as a kid, I was like, I never
<v Speaker 2>thought about doing that, but let me give it a go.
<v Speaker 2>I would please shot and he would laughing or Howard
<v Speaker 2>co sell and.
<v Speaker 1>I can't do it very well, but when.
<v Speaker 3>You're here, I would sell my handmad Ali, what are
<v Speaker 3>your thoughts as you're prepared for this fight?
<v Speaker 1>Well, how had I gotta tell you, I can't do it.
<v Speaker 1>That was horrible.
<v Speaker 6>You're gonna lose the fight, Jo, It's gonna.
<v Speaker 2>Hey man, Muhammad Ali was a beast fool. I mean
<v Speaker 2>I remember being a kid and watching him excel and
<v Speaker 2>like there was a tree in motion.
<v Speaker 1>Oh man, nothing like him, nothing like and still no,
<v Speaker 1>I mean, like just amazing.
<v Speaker 2>I see on you know, YouTube and social media, uh,
<v Speaker 2>videos of him doing his thing back in the day,
<v Speaker 2>and I remember it and I'm like, and he made
<v Speaker 2>it look so easy, he made it look so easy,
<v Speaker 2>and uh, it's just what a what a powerful presence,
<v Speaker 2>powerful man.
<v Speaker 1>His stories name as well well. He I mean, he's
<v Speaker 1>the only guy who did what he did.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's Muhammad Ali and then everybody else is fighting
<v Speaker 3>for second place.
<v Speaker 1>Yep.
<v Speaker 6>And that's really not limited to sports or just boxing.
<v Speaker 6>That's kind of it. Like it's Muhammad Ali. Yeah, beatles
<v Speaker 6>are up there.
<v Speaker 3>Oh okay, you know, okay, And I got a picture
<v Speaker 3>in somewhere upstairs in my office of him, Muhammad Ali
<v Speaker 3>standing there giving the classic Ali posing all four beaters,
<v Speaker 3>beatles are laying down on the ground.
<v Speaker 1>You have a picture of that. Yeah, it's pretty awesome. Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, it was him then everybody else. Oh yeah,
<v Speaker 3>so you're in good company, in.
<v Speaker 1>Good company absolutely yeah.
<v Speaker 2>Now, but but that was a motivator, I think a
<v Speaker 2>motivating factor of my dad because he also had me
<v Speaker 2>singing all the time.
<v Speaker 1>He had a radio show. Oh he did.
<v Speaker 2>He was a minister, so oh wow, he had a
<v Speaker 2>radio show. He had me come on and sing a
<v Speaker 2>song when.
<v Speaker 4>I was a kid.
<v Speaker 1>Where was it. It was in Detroit, Michigan. Don't care. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>you said Detroit, not Detroit, Detri. I said Detroit. I
<v Speaker 1>know there's Detroit. I always say Detroit for something.
<v Speaker 2>I think that's something that people say when they're not
<v Speaker 2>from Detroit. Yeah, you know, yeah, it's like Detroit, Michigan. Well,
<v Speaker 2>I mean, like it works but yeah, yeah, I always
<v Speaker 2>said Detroit, Detroit, Michigan.
<v Speaker 1>From Detroit. I'm from Detroit. What I'm doing?
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, yeah, we say Detroit in Australia Troit.
<v Speaker 2>But people do tend to want to emphasize that d.
<v Speaker 2>But it makes a little harder Detroit. What up from Detroit?
<v Speaker 1>But I've never said it that way because you don't
<v Speaker 1>have to hear you. Your way is direct way. Yes,
<v Speaker 1>this part of like that part of Michigan.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, speaking of people who are in incredible shape, much
<v Speaker 4>like Muhammad Ali. You guys on that original Naughty show.
<v Speaker 4>As a kid watching it felt like you were old
<v Speaker 4>black belt martial artists. Is that right? Or we're just
<v Speaker 4>really good at doing all the black kicks and whatnot.
<v Speaker 2>No, you know what, there were some of us were
<v Speaker 2>truly martial artists. I was a brown belt at Issuanaro
<v Speaker 2>I study when I was a kid, and then Austin
<v Speaker 2>Saint John had his specialty of martial arts. He had
<v Speaker 2>been studying for majority of his life. Jason Frank also
<v Speaker 2>had been martial artists for the majority of his life.
<v Speaker 2>Amy Joe and David Yost were gymnasts, and so they
<v Speaker 2>learned to apply kicks and punches and stuff and so.
<v Speaker 1>It was cool.
<v Speaker 2>But what was even better is that we well, for me,
<v Speaker 2>we had some amazing stunt guys and they were all
<v Speaker 2>specialists and what they did. They were all specialists in
<v Speaker 2>different forms of martial arts ha keto, coppawetta, you know,
<v Speaker 2>jiu jitsu, taekwondo like, and these guys were kung fu.
<v Speaker 2>All these guys were. They had lots of skills and
<v Speaker 2>so I was able to steal skills from everybody. Was like,
<v Speaker 2>you know, I tell the story about one of the
<v Speaker 2>guy's name was he and he did this kick. He
<v Speaker 2>called it a tornado kick. Uh.
<v Speaker 1>And the way the cake works is you.
<v Speaker 2>You you step back and you step forward off the
<v Speaker 2>leg that you were standing stepping forward with. You would
<v Speaker 2>jump kick up to a flip in the air kick
<v Speaker 2>with that leg and then land. And he told me, yeah, man,
<v Speaker 2>I think you can do this kick. I've been working
<v Speaker 2>on it for like a couple of years and it's
<v Speaker 2>amazing and let me.
<v Speaker 1>Show it to you. So you showed it to me.
<v Speaker 1>I was like, that is that's dope. I like that.
<v Speaker 1>I was like, let me try it. So what did
<v Speaker 1>you do?
<v Speaker 2>You stepped off this leg okay, and I did it.
<v Speaker 2>And I did it kind of like it was not
<v Speaker 2>that great. He was like, no, no, you keep out it,
<v Speaker 2>but keep at it, man, you'll get it. Said, let
<v Speaker 2>me try it again. So it was the right leg
<v Speaker 2>right see, yup?
<v Speaker 1>And I did it. And he's like, I hate you.
<v Speaker 6>Because you learn it too. I learned it too quick.
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<v Speaker 1>But I have, I've studied. I went to school of
<v Speaker 1>Performing Arts.
<v Speaker 2>I study jazz dance, jazz ballet, tap mattern. So I
<v Speaker 2>studied these different forms of dance. I was a martial
<v Speaker 2>artists already, so in learning dance, it trained my eye
<v Speaker 2>to be able to see something physical and emulated. It
<v Speaker 2>was like yeah, yeah, okay, so you're doing that, this
<v Speaker 2>leg goes here, this body goes You're using this part
<v Speaker 2>of your body and just being able to do that
<v Speaker 2>and then apply it to martial arts later. It really
<v Speaker 2>helped me because it's like martial arts and dancing are
<v Speaker 2>the same in the sense that it's improvisational choreography.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, according to Yeah, yeah, there you go. You know,
<v Speaker 1>that's quite a term.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So I was like you, you know, as as
<v Speaker 2>a martial artist, you learn the set of movements and
<v Speaker 2>then you apply it to whatever circumstance you're dealing with. Right,
<v Speaker 2>so this person is throwing a punch. I have lots
<v Speaker 2>of options and stop the punch. I can duck under
<v Speaker 2>the punch, I could kick the punch. I can do
<v Speaker 2>all these different things, and then you know, go from there.
<v Speaker 2>So whatever comes next is whatever becomes available. So that's
<v Speaker 2>what martial arts is like. And then dancing is also
<v Speaker 2>away because you have rhythm music and the music takes
<v Speaker 2>you here and then you're just gonna go there. And
<v Speaker 2>in the middle of doing it, you you have sets
<v Speaker 2>of movement that you know how to do, but you
<v Speaker 2>don't know what's gonna come next, you know what I mean.
<v Speaker 1>Like this's however, however, you're inspired, Well, I remember doing
<v Speaker 1>being at different cars.
<v Speaker 3>We've known each other at various times, and you know,
<v Speaker 3>and and uh, I would be like, well, where are
<v Speaker 3>you going to?
<v Speaker 1>I got I think we're going get it, get a steak, kid,
<v Speaker 1>or something like where you're gonna salsa dancing?
<v Speaker 6>I said, oh, you're going to salsa dancing?
<v Speaker 1>And my man I said, okay, I'll be watching. You know,
<v Speaker 1>I'm to watch.
<v Speaker 5>Ye.
<v Speaker 4>I know.
<v Speaker 1>Often at the cons, I I.
<v Speaker 2>I'm always happy to be around all my peers and
<v Speaker 2>meet all these people that I admire.
<v Speaker 1>But dancing is just such a passion of mine that
<v Speaker 1>you know. It's like I we spent all.
<v Speaker 2>Days sign an autographs and taking photos and then I'll
<v Speaker 2>go home to my room, take a nap, and everybody
<v Speaker 2>else is going to go out and eat. But their
<v Speaker 2>schedule is do the con, go eat, have a drink,
<v Speaker 2>go to sleep. My schedule is go to the con,
<v Speaker 2>come back home, take a nap, then eat, then go out.
<v Speaker 2>And in that way I'm well rested for the night
<v Speaker 2>and the next day. So and that's that's just the
<v Speaker 2>way I do it. That makes me happy, that works,
<v Speaker 2>keeps me young.
<v Speaker 1>There you go.
<v Speaker 5>I was just about to ask that it keeps me.
<v Speaker 2>Dancing is a way that you know, it's a way
<v Speaker 2>of moving your body and keeping your bones fresh and
<v Speaker 2>so forth and so on. And what I discovered is
<v Speaker 2>saused dancing, which I saw in perto Rico for the
<v Speaker 2>first time and was like amazed because I couldn't figure out,
<v Speaker 2>how are they getting back on the same step and
<v Speaker 2>doing his turn and dipping and they come right back
<v Speaker 2>to music. I didn't understand it, But once I learned it,
<v Speaker 2>it became, you know, my fascination because I was like, oh, okay,
<v Speaker 2>so now this is something I can do until I'm seventy.
<v Speaker 1>Eighty years old.
<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, And it doesn't have to hurt my body
<v Speaker 2>because I can only I can choose to do it
<v Speaker 2>as little as I want to. Yeah, exactly. So I
<v Speaker 2>mean I can't like I'm young now, so I'm we're youngish. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>I can go out and do all the stuff and
<v Speaker 2>throw dips and everything else. But as I get older,
<v Speaker 2>I don't have to do all that. I could just
<v Speaker 2>be kind of cool. Let the girl be the cape
<v Speaker 2>and I'll be the man.
<v Speaker 3>Ah, there you go, boy, there's we're gonna somebody's writing
<v Speaker 3>that down out there right now. And you know, I mean,
<v Speaker 3>I hope you're not gonna get mad at me. He's
<v Speaker 3>eighty nine years old.
<v Speaker 1>Ladies and gentlemen, Jim older than you.
<v Speaker 3>So please when he says Sausae dancing, get your ass
<v Speaker 3>down to that's all and bust out this and bust
<v Speaker 3>the moves.
<v Speaker 1>Let's cause something's happening. Yeah, something's going right for well.
<v Speaker 2>Actually, to be honest with you, I am the show
<v Speaker 2>came out thirty years ago. I was playing a sixteen
<v Speaker 2>year old, so there, I was sixteen, sixteen year old.
<v Speaker 2>However I was twenty six, so I will be fifty
<v Speaker 2>seven in November.
<v Speaker 1>Wow, So what's your birthday? November thirtieth?
<v Speaker 6>Yep, oh, mine's November third, all right, and mine don't
<v Speaker 6>have a seven in it.
<v Speaker 1>Different seven so yeah, yeah, that is awesome.
<v Speaker 3>I bet I wasn't born in a leap here, right,
<v Speaker 3>or on February twenty nine, i'd be sixteen exactly or
<v Speaker 3>something something like that. Younger anyway, younger, yeah, younger.
<v Speaker 2>But you have a youthful exuberance. I mean you're already Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>you're like you're very youthful.
<v Speaker 3>It's like, you know, I was just gonna say that, thanks, no,
<v Speaker 3>thank you, you're very kind. We have to see about
<v Speaker 3>getting you to an eye doctor.
<v Speaker 1>No, but it's not even I mean you look great,
<v Speaker 1>but your energy is great.
<v Speaker 2>I mean like you you walk around, uh I see
<v Speaker 2>it the comic cons and and half the time you're
<v Speaker 2>you're not sitting down, you're up and about with the
<v Speaker 2>people and making them happy and putting smiles on the faces.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.
<v Speaker 6>Well it's fun. Yeah, and it's invigorating.
<v Speaker 1>I love that part, you know.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's it's an amazing job to go and just
<v Speaker 2>be yourself and make people happy.
<v Speaker 1>Because you see the faces of people when they walk away,
<v Speaker 1>they're like.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well occasionally we'll be at a con and it'll
<v Speaker 3>be you and Karen and maybe Austin, just a couple
<v Speaker 3>of the guys, you know, and and they have this
<v Speaker 3>thing that they do and they've all got you've all
<v Speaker 3>got the what is it? Yeah, you got the marks
<v Speaker 3>and it's and it's pretty awesome and they and they
<v Speaker 3>all do it like they did it last week, and
<v Speaker 3>they all walk up.
<v Speaker 1>And you know, and I can't do it, but but
<v Speaker 1>it's like and there's like this.
<v Speaker 6>Big crowd of people.
<v Speaker 1>You go, what happened?
<v Speaker 6>Is it anything wrong over here?
<v Speaker 3>And look and there's well there you yeah, oh, rangers
<v Speaker 3>a symbol or I don't know what that is, that's
<v Speaker 3>what it is.
<v Speaker 6>Yes, I was thinking that's Avengers all day every day. Yeah,
<v Speaker 6>look at that.
<v Speaker 1>So somebody's doing something right. Good for you. Yeah, man,
<v Speaker 1>it's it's a blessing. Really, it is honestly a blessing
<v Speaker 1>to uh.
<v Speaker 2>To have been on anything for thirty I like to
<v Speaker 2>have anything that's running for thirty years is yeah, amazing,
<v Speaker 2>which of course you could attest to you because I mean, man,
<v Speaker 2>your your body of work is astounded.
<v Speaker 1>Well, thank you. It's like the talent you have uh
<v Speaker 1>in your.
<v Speaker 2>Voice and your capability of creating characters is you know,
<v Speaker 2>it's on spiring.
<v Speaker 6>So thank you very much, sir checks in the mail.
<v Speaker 1>Now, I'm just saying there's much respect, much respect, Thank you.
<v Speaker 2>Man. It's not something that everybody can do, and there's
<v Speaker 2>something you've always done very well exactly if everybody could
<v Speaker 2>do it. I mean, I don't know with this new
<v Speaker 2>AI stuff, what's what's gonna happen?
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I don't know.
<v Speaker 1>I don't I.
<v Speaker 6>I don't know enough about it.
<v Speaker 3>We were talking about it earlier, and I guess they
<v Speaker 3>can do something to clone a body, you know, but
<v Speaker 3>it is the body's language is gonna be take.
<v Speaker 1>They can take recordings of your yeah, and then make
<v Speaker 1>your voice say anything. Yeah, it's just scary. Yeah. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>we were talking about that earlier. And uh, I did
<v Speaker 1>this one thing as Winnie the Pooh, and then they
<v Speaker 1>wanted me to do phone.
<v Speaker 3>Ymes and that's like you know, or some other crap.
<v Speaker 3>And this girl made the mistake of saying it in
<v Speaker 3>front of me.
<v Speaker 1>I said, what the helophone ms?
<v Speaker 3>It's just well, this way we could dissemble words and
<v Speaker 3>we don't have to hire you back and pay you again.
<v Speaker 1>And and the session guy.
<v Speaker 3>Goes and I said, well, ain't doing any phone ms, anything.
<v Speaker 1>Else, anything else. Look at the time, you know, Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>it's bizarre. You gotta watch out for those phone ms.
<v Speaker 1>How do you even spell that? Yeah? I don't even Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I think it's p H O N Y m okay,
<v Speaker 1>we steal your money.
<v Speaker 6>Or yeah, we don't need your ass.
<v Speaker 1>We've got phone ms. It's crazy. So yeah, we'll see
<v Speaker 1>what happens.
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, they're not going to get the body language right,
<v Speaker 3>they're not going to get the acting, but I hope yeah, yeah,
<v Speaker 3>notice I'm knocking on wood there.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, I think it's still farther out than most
<v Speaker 5>people are like talking like it is. You know, like
<v Speaker 5>even like video games that are made these days, they
<v Speaker 5>still use actors to capture everything. And that goes back
<v Speaker 5>to the beginning days of animation, you know, when they're
<v Speaker 5>doing like oh yeah, snow White and they'd have actresses,
<v Speaker 5>you know, acting out and then they'd trace you know,
<v Speaker 5>the body movements and everything like that. So I don't know,
<v Speaker 5>I think it's still necessary to have actors, and maybe
<v Speaker 5>the roll will shift, maybe with the addition of AI.
<v Speaker 2>The thing is that I just don't know yet, you know.
<v Speaker 2>I know what I've seen on like TikTok and various
<v Speaker 2>you know, social media. I've seen guys take raps rap songs, right,
<v Speaker 2>They'll take a rap song, they'll write a verse and
<v Speaker 2>they'll have AI do it in the voice of Tupac
<v Speaker 2>and they'll have to write something from Biggie and have
<v Speaker 2>Biggie and Tupac rapping against each other or together on
<v Speaker 2>a song and it sounds like them and you're like,
<v Speaker 2>what the hell And it's a.
<v Speaker 6>Very Manilow song.
<v Speaker 1>Picture, right, what is going on? It's just bizarre, But
<v Speaker 1>you know, here we are. It's technology. We're coming to
<v Speaker 1>it every time.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, you you can recall when uh,
<v Speaker 2>before we had computers and oh yeah, and before we
<v Speaker 2>had dial up and the internet was like this thing
<v Speaker 2>they were talking about and there were these big, old,
<v Speaker 2>huge machines, you know.
<v Speaker 6>I mean I was a pressed with the just sketch
<v Speaker 6>right right that? Yeah, up and down and yeah, yeah
<v Speaker 6>that was that was.
<v Speaker 1>That sketch was fun.
<v Speaker 2>Slinky you had a slinky Oh yeah, slinky slinky, wonderful,
<v Speaker 2>wonderful toy.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.
<v Speaker 6>I remember that string shring sing.
<v Speaker 1>Down and I can hardly ever make that happen. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I get three steps.
<v Speaker 6>It's broken exactly. I want a new one, Give me
<v Speaker 6>a new one.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.
<v Speaker 4>The Power Anger toy line is massive still is to
<v Speaker 4>this day. Did you ever collect the toys? As in,
<v Speaker 4>did you ever collect your figurines from the original show?
<v Speaker 1>You know what's a funny thing.
<v Speaker 2>They didn't give us the toys. I mean all these
<v Speaker 2>toys that were flying off the shelves. People were spending
<v Speaker 2>night outside to get these toys. It was like it
<v Speaker 2>was all over the news, and we were giving the toys.
<v Speaker 2>I wasn't given my action figures or or like the
<v Speaker 2>big toys that came together, Like you would think they
<v Speaker 2>would give those to us, Yeah, and they didn't.
<v Speaker 1>And so you know, I think at one.
<v Speaker 2>Point I considered going to Toys r US and waiting
<v Speaker 2>in line with everybody else and making a big stink
<v Speaker 2>about it, And maybe I should have done that.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but I wait until everybody recognized you and they're going, wait, wait, wait.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, how come you don't have toys? Why are you
<v Speaker 1>here trying to buy your toy?
<v Speaker 2>But I kind of refused to buy them because I
<v Speaker 2>felt like we were supposed to be giving them. What's
<v Speaker 2>happening over the years is the fans have heard that story,
<v Speaker 2>and so the fans bring me toys.
<v Speaker 1>They're like, here, do you have one of these? Cool? Yeah?
<v Speaker 2>Like I got my first Megazord from one of the
<v Speaker 2>fans who just gave it to me and you know,
<v Speaker 2>in pieces, and I'm like when I So I ended
<v Speaker 2>up playing with the toy maybe twenty years later, you know,
<v Speaker 2>twenty years later, I'm like, oh, this is the way
<v Speaker 2>this thing, this is a cool toy. This is like yeah,
<v Speaker 2>so you know, I took it home and my kids
<v Speaker 2>were able to play with it. But yeah, you know,
<v Speaker 2>at this point, I think I there's much more love.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I get the action figures and the Lightning
<v Speaker 2>figures and the comic books and stuff like that.
<v Speaker 1>Now they're looking out.
<v Speaker 6>The different traditions.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, I think I probably have maybe ten
<v Speaker 2>different iterations of action figures. And then uh, you know,
<v Speaker 2>I got the pops, got like baby pops pops are awesome.
<v Speaker 1>Love those and uh, and then the comic books.
<v Speaker 2>There's three different comic books, maybe four different comic book series.
<v Speaker 6>I'm going, yeah, I got.
<v Speaker 1>Comic books and all this cool merch which is your likeness.
<v Speaker 1>They draw something that kind of looks like me, but not.
<v Speaker 3>Really well because they don't want to get too close,
<v Speaker 3>not to close.
<v Speaker 2>Right, because then they're like, although I think contractually because
<v Speaker 2>of the original contract, I think they could. And I
<v Speaker 2>know I've even gone so far to be like, listen,
<v Speaker 2>if you guys want me to do a face game,
<v Speaker 2>and I could do that because the original Lightning figures
<v Speaker 2>had this face to look like it was the face
<v Speaker 2>of Billy, but they colored it brown like that doesn't
<v Speaker 2>really work for me. The newest ones, I like. The
<v Speaker 2>newest ones I think are much closer to what I
<v Speaker 2>would look like, and I'm excited about those. So yeah, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm excited about all the toys.
<v Speaker 1>It's cool.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I you know, I have my feelings about
<v Speaker 2>certain things, but I'm also very happy that all this
<v Speaker 2>stuff exists and that my my legacy will live.
<v Speaker 1>On, you know, yeah, yes, it will. Yeah, that's for sure.
<v Speaker 2>That's the biggest advantage of the show is the fact that,
<v Speaker 2>you know, here we are thirty years later, but the
<v Speaker 2>show's been aired in forty countries for thirty years, and
<v Speaker 2>you know, I can't even tell you how many languages.
<v Speaker 1>It might be, like sixty or so languages.
<v Speaker 2>And it gives me the possibility of traveling the world
<v Speaker 2>and meeting fans everywhere and of them, you know, to
<v Speaker 2>be loved up, which is.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah.
<v Speaker 6>And you get to go dancing, and I get to
<v Speaker 6>go dancing everywhere I go.
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, and I find it.
<v Speaker 2>I find almost everywhere I go, I find somewhere to
<v Speaker 2>go sauca dance. And I not only saw some but
<v Speaker 2>sauata kizomba zuk I'm trying to get on dance.
<v Speaker 1>With the stars. Can I get on dance with the stars?
<v Speaker 1>Because somebody make that happen.
<v Speaker 2>That would be all Why I'm not a ballroom dancer.
<v Speaker 2>It's ballrooms, so it's not like I'm already you.
<v Speaker 1>Know, ahead of the game. But I do dance, but
<v Speaker 1>not ballroom. That would be a different skills, so you
<v Speaker 1>can learn. I would learn. I would learn.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I have a lot of fun. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
<v Speaker 3>and uh dance with the start. I'm trying to think
<v Speaker 3>who is on that?
<v Speaker 6>Is that height?
<v Speaker 1>No, that's not the supermodel or whatever I'm thinking of.
<v Speaker 1>I am not sure currently. I might be Roberto. I
<v Speaker 1>think I saw something recently.
<v Speaker 2>It might be he competed on it once before and
<v Speaker 2>one and I think he's now hosting it as well.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, yeah.
<v Speaker 5>I always say Jim has to get on the masked Singer.
<v Speaker 5>Have you seen that one?
<v Speaker 1>That would be amazing. Yeah, it's the same. That would
<v Speaker 1>be good. That would be great. I don't know, Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. It couldn't be like a poo bear
<v Speaker 1>or it would have to be something that they don't
<v Speaker 1>do those kind of characters.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, wow, they just like make him up on
<v Speaker 5>that show.
<v Speaker 1>Great, that would be a great Sophia. Yeah, that would
<v Speaker 1>be a gas I would do that in the heartbeat,
<v Speaker 1>and then it would take off the thing to go
<v Speaker 1>it's good old.
<v Speaker 6>Yes until then Cunningham.
<v Speaker 2>And then they start speaking about what you've done, and
<v Speaker 2>everybody go, hell, that my gosh, that guy.
<v Speaker 1>Oh man, yeah, that's amazing. What a cut of music
<v Speaker 1>did you do? Or do you do? Well? My favorite?
<v Speaker 3>You know, Well, I used to be in a rock
<v Speaker 3>and roll band, you know, rocking like everybody else did,
<v Speaker 3>uh in New Orleans. And that was the only band
<v Speaker 3>I actually made a living in. And uh, I wasn't
<v Speaker 3>a drummer. I was just a singer. But uh but
<v Speaker 3>as a result, you know, And it was weird because,
<v Speaker 3>like with me, I was accidentally training myself for this
<v Speaker 3>because you know, you're singing, you're singing, they're singing, that's it.
<v Speaker 3>And then they go, okay, well now can you sing
<v Speaker 3>like this person? Well I would try to sing like
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, Bruce Springsteen or Stevie Wonder or you
<v Speaker 3>know Mick Jagger who fill in the blank, you know,
<v Speaker 3>and I would try to make it sort of sound
<v Speaker 3>like that, not a flat out impression.
<v Speaker 6>It's like a tribute band, but you know, keep it
<v Speaker 6>in that vein.
<v Speaker 3>And I was accidentally training myself for you know, when
<v Speaker 3>I kind of finished growing up and got into this
<v Speaker 3>business because I jokingly referred to myself as a stunt
<v Speaker 3>singer every now and then because uh, you know, sung
<v Speaker 3>for Lion King and you know, Princess and the Frog
<v Speaker 3>and gosh, Hercules a bunch of them. But I was
<v Speaker 3>singing for somebody else. Okay, you know, so a different
<v Speaker 3>character like Scar, you know, and like right right, so so.
<v Speaker 2>You're singing in that voice, right, which is amazing. That's
<v Speaker 2>that's also amazing.
<v Speaker 1>Well that's cool. Yeah yeah, I mean like you get
<v Speaker 1>to be singing character. I mean like musical theater. Yeah yeah, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>musical theater. Have you done musical theater?
<v Speaker 2>Uh?
<v Speaker 1>Nuts? Since high school? Okay, you know that was a
<v Speaker 1>couple of years ago.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah that was God, that's it's got to be
<v Speaker 3>over a dozen years now, Times Squared.
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, whatever that would be.
<v Speaker 5>You sang for Christopher Lloyd and uh yeah, which movie
<v Speaker 5>was An A Stage An a Stage?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? That was that was fun.
<v Speaker 3>I we finally met up and uh, you know they
<v Speaker 3>did the reb was that. I said, oh, you know, Christopher,
<v Speaker 3>we've got a great song. It's real fanom of the opera.
<v Speaker 3>It's kind of Andrew Lloyd Weber and he goes, wow, good,
<v Speaker 3>I hope I don't suck.
<v Speaker 1>And then and then he left and he doesn't sing.
<v Speaker 1>Just no, he say no, no, no.
<v Speaker 3>So they you know, I was there and they kind
<v Speaker 3>of knew me, and I said, well, you want to
<v Speaker 3>come in take a swing at this. So I did it,
<v Speaker 3>and the rumor and I saw him two weeks ago,
<v Speaker 3>and he and he laughed about it. Uh, And supposedly
<v Speaker 3>he came back and they go, you know, because he
<v Speaker 3>had to sign off, right, you know.
<v Speaker 6>Right, you know, and so he goes, wow, I sound
<v Speaker 6>really good.
<v Speaker 3>And so I got that job, and I got the job.
<v Speaker 3>And now I got a little plaque on the wall.
<v Speaker 3>So so uh, and he and I don't get any
<v Speaker 3>more money. He still probably gets better residuals than.
<v Speaker 1>Me the past.
<v Speaker 6>No, but he's a great guy.
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I met him once or twice. I mean,
<v Speaker 2>that's the amazing thing about being out here on the
<v Speaker 2>convincement circuit is all the people that I meet or
<v Speaker 2>I get.
<v Speaker 1>I'm grace.
<v Speaker 2>I get the grace to be able to meet you know,
<v Speaker 2>and and uh, you know, like people that I've grown
<v Speaker 2>up at my ring and people that I admire curently
<v Speaker 2>on on shows that I currently watch, and uh, and
<v Speaker 2>just to be you know, uppearing to be accepted and
<v Speaker 2>liked by them as well, which is I'm respected by
<v Speaker 2>them as well. It's amazing growing up in Detroit, poor
<v Speaker 2>black kid in Detroit, Michigan, single family household to me,
<v Speaker 2>my mom and my sister.
<v Speaker 1>I used to watch The Love Boat.
<v Speaker 6>Oh yeah, the love Boat.
<v Speaker 1>Remember that show, mister Smoothinger and I don't even know
<v Speaker 1>who that was.
<v Speaker 2>I used to I don't know who sang it, but uh,
<v Speaker 2>that show. They traveled to different places, uh, you know
<v Speaker 2>every week on the show. And I used to watch
<v Speaker 2>it and just imagine what would be like to travel
<v Speaker 2>to these places and get off a ship and just
<v Speaker 2>you know, wake up in another place and you know,
<v Speaker 2>like in the culture and so forth and so on
<v Speaker 2>with the foods and so forth. And I actually went
<v Speaker 2>on after I graduated college, uh, to work on the
<v Speaker 2>Love Boat for Princess Cruise Lines.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>So I did that for three years, traveling as an
<v Speaker 2>assistant cruise director and that's awesome.
<v Speaker 1>And doing all the shows.
<v Speaker 2>We did a fifty show, forty show, a Broadway Show,
<v Speaker 2>International Show. So as a singer, dancer, and actor, I
<v Speaker 2>was working doing the entertainment on the ships and traveling
<v Speaker 2>to these places.
<v Speaker 1>At scene, on TV and on the actual level.
<v Speaker 2>So I did Princess Cruise Lines at that point have
<v Speaker 2>maybe seven ships, and I did about five of their
<v Speaker 2>different ships that included the Princess Cruise Line, Princess Pacific Princess,
<v Speaker 2>and the Island Princess, which is what they filmed on.
<v Speaker 1>Wow. Yeah, that's pretty darn cool. It was very cool.
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<v Speaker 2>And I got to see all kinds into things because
<v Speaker 2>part of my job as an entertainer and assistant cruise
<v Speaker 2>director was I would interact with all the passengers, you know,
<v Speaker 2>and so, uh, the the people that ran the tours
<v Speaker 2>that be like, yeah, we want you to take all
<v Speaker 2>the tours so you can tell people about your experiences.
<v Speaker 2>And so I got to do the coolest things, like
<v Speaker 2>I took a helicopter on top of a glacier in Alaska. Yeah, amazing, right, God,
<v Speaker 2>how many times have I done that? I learned the
<v Speaker 2>scuba dive on the Gray Berrier reef yea Australia.
<v Speaker 1>There you go. Yeah, I got to you know, Mexico.
<v Speaker 2>I had to go a TV ATV riding on the beach,
<v Speaker 2>and you know, take canoe trips, you know, canoe trips
<v Speaker 2>in Alaska and all this cool things that I just
<v Speaker 2>never thought I would ever. Yeah. Yeah, Well, the cool
<v Speaker 2>thing about being on a cruise ship is you get
<v Speaker 2>a taste of everything. Right, you're only there for eight hours.
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes you might be there for twelve hours, maybe a
<v Speaker 2>whole day, but you get to go and experience a
<v Speaker 2>part of that culture, about part of that city, and
<v Speaker 2>then you move on the next day you're out at sea,
<v Speaker 2>and then you're in another place. And it definitely at
<v Speaker 2>that age because I was I was pretty young. It
<v Speaker 2>opened my eyes to the world and what the world
<v Speaker 2>was like and all the different experiences I could have,
<v Speaker 2>Like I went I went bungee jumping.
<v Speaker 1>I thought that was something I would never ever do. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>it's it's scary. And I got a few heights okay
<v Speaker 1>and jumping.
<v Speaker 2>But I went because when I went, I I was
<v Speaker 2>just gonna go look at it. I was like, I'm
<v Speaker 2>not gonna go do it. Only crazy people do that, right,
<v Speaker 2>But I went because I wanted to see them do it.
<v Speaker 2>I wanted to to I witnessed this. Yeah, And I
<v Speaker 2>got there and the first guy I saw do it
<v Speaker 2>was like maybe you know to eighty, like six four.
<v Speaker 1>He's a big dude. And he did it, and I
<v Speaker 1>was like, I got did it?
<v Speaker 2>His rubber band didn't right, it didn't break. I'm like
<v Speaker 2>I should be safe. I'm like one hundred and thirty
<v Speaker 2>pounds five six. And then I saw like a forty
<v Speaker 2>two year old woman do it. And then I saw
<v Speaker 2>like a fifteen year old boy do it, and I
<v Speaker 2>was like, I'm doing this. Yeah, yeah, I'm doing it
<v Speaker 2>so they can do it?
<v Speaker 1>Why can I do it? Yes? That's right?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>And I'm you know, physically fit. I'm a dancer, I
<v Speaker 1>got I'm an acrobat, I can do all these different things.
<v Speaker 1>And let me get this a go.
<v Speaker 2>And I got up to the to the edge of
<v Speaker 2>the bridge because it was one hundred and seventy five
<v Speaker 2>foot bridge, sure fifty foot ravine, and I got a
<v Speaker 2>fear of heights, and I was changing my mind. I
<v Speaker 2>was like, but my god, they got my my my
<v Speaker 2>ankles bind it.
<v Speaker 6>So yeah, I can't walk.
<v Speaker 1>I can't just walk away.
<v Speaker 2>I got a right and the guy walks up behind
<v Speaker 2>me and puts his hand on my shoulder behind me,
<v Speaker 2>and it's like, all right, here we go on three
<v Speaker 2>two one budget You're gonna jump.
<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, I don't want.
<v Speaker 4>To do it.
<v Speaker 2>And he's like, here we go, ready, ready, three two one,
<v Speaker 2>And I'm thinking, this guy's gonna push me. I don't
<v Speaker 2>want to get pushed. So I just jumped.
<v Speaker 1>Oh there you go. Wow.
<v Speaker 2>And it changed my life because it made me feel
<v Speaker 2>like I am capable of doing anything.
<v Speaker 1>If I choose to.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah, yeah, if you I mean, if you can
<v Speaker 3>bungee jump, you're golden. Yeah, I mean, geez, that's excuse.
<v Speaker 3>That's where they keep all the gravity.
<v Speaker 6>Right out there, right there, right out there, right see there.
<v Speaker 1>You jump out and you can feel it. It's reel.
<v Speaker 1>It's reel. Gravity is pulling straight down to the ground. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>and I never did anything like that. But I did
<v Speaker 1>do hang gliding. I did hang gliding in Brazil. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I did.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Well do you think it was amazing?
<v Speaker 2>Uh. One of those trips that I went to when
<v Speaker 2>I was on cruise ships was to Rio and I
<v Speaker 2>went up to Sugar Loaf Mountains and right it was
<v Speaker 2>beautiful there the statue of the Crystal statue, and I
<v Speaker 2>saw people hang outing there and I was like, I
<v Speaker 2>want to do that, and I didn't have time, so
<v Speaker 2>I didn't go. And I've been back to Brazil a
<v Speaker 2>couple of times, yeah, for dancing stuff or comic cons.
<v Speaker 6>Wow.
<v Speaker 2>And this most recently about a year ago, I went
<v Speaker 2>back for a dance event and a comic con and
<v Speaker 2>I thought, I don't have anything.
<v Speaker 1>To do today. Hang glady, wait a minute, I could
<v Speaker 1>do that. So it was like thirty years later, but
<v Speaker 1>I finally did it and it was amazing. Wow. It's
<v Speaker 1>like flying like a bird on the on the windstream set.
<v Speaker 4>Do you ever considered skydiving.
<v Speaker 1>I've been skydiving three times.
<v Speaker 2>So, like I said, bungee jumping opened up the door
<v Speaker 2>because I was like, now, after I've done that and
<v Speaker 2>believe it or not. Bungee jumping was the scariest thing
<v Speaker 2>I've ever done because there's no there's no one. You're
<v Speaker 2>by yourself right two, there's no indication that it's going
<v Speaker 2>to slow down. It just all of a sudden reverses
<v Speaker 2>and it's not hard, it's not it's like it's subtle
<v Speaker 2>and before you know it, I mean, just when you
<v Speaker 2>think you're gonna die, because the momentum is going, going, going, going, going, going, going,
<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden you're going opposite way and you're like, wow,
<v Speaker 2>that was a trick. But sky or anything else like that,
<v Speaker 2>usually you go tandem. Uh, hang out and you go tandem.
<v Speaker 2>So somebody else that's a professional has been doing this
<v Speaker 2>several times, probably several times today, and you know, you
<v Speaker 2>you got somebody depend on.
<v Speaker 1>You know, you're not alone.
<v Speaker 2>And then once you get close to the ground, the
<v Speaker 2>ground is not a threat as well, because it's so
<v Speaker 2>far away.
<v Speaker 1>You don't feel an immediate rush of yeah.
<v Speaker 2>It's not like you stop right yeah, No, it's not
<v Speaker 2>oh ship, It's like it's like, oh, okay, the grounds
<v Speaker 2>way down there. As long as I don't start adding
<v Speaker 2>towards it fast, yeah, yeah, and please let me bang
<v Speaker 2>back up. But bungee jumping is like you don't know
<v Speaker 2>that you're going to stop, and so that's it's intense.
<v Speaker 1>So let's go next week, all right, Yeah, okay, Well
<v Speaker 1>we gotta go. I have to prep.
<v Speaker 3>I got to take my metal mucial yeah no kidding, Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>and don't forget my forever or underwear Jesse the case.
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying it's gonna happen, but if it does,
<v Speaker 1>I like to be prepared. That's right now.
<v Speaker 4>I feel like the listeners and views would be really
<v Speaker 4>annoyed if we didn't last touch on the Netflix parrange
<v Speaker 4>especial once in Away.
<v Speaker 2>There is that Now we are on a strike, so
<v Speaker 2>I'm not really supposed to talk about that particular show because.
<v Speaker 6>It was typically are you're not allowed to talk about it.
<v Speaker 2>I'm not supposed to talk about anything that's union and
<v Speaker 2>the other thirty years of The Power Rangers was down unions.
<v Speaker 2>We got thirty years to talk about that. But I
<v Speaker 2>will say this, I went back. It was amazing thirty
<v Speaker 2>years later. I portrayed the same character just thirty years later,
<v Speaker 2>and I loved it. And if there was an opportunity
<v Speaker 2>for me to go back and do it some more.
<v Speaker 2>I think I would sure if it was union.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, yeah, if it was union, yeah yeah.
<v Speaker 2>Makes up working as a professional now for thirty years,
<v Speaker 2>so it's like I'm not going to go back to
<v Speaker 2>my beginning and be.
<v Speaker 1>Like, oh yeah, I'll be m hm.
<v Speaker 5>So do you think the strike could be coming to
<v Speaker 5>an end soon?
<v Speaker 3>Here?
<v Speaker 5>With the writers strike wrapping up?
<v Speaker 2>And I do believe that we're getting closer to to
<v Speaker 2>an answer to make some kind of resolution.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, And it's important.
<v Speaker 2>Because the future is changing rapidly in front of us,
<v Speaker 2>and if we're not prepared right to, you know, to
<v Speaker 2>move along with it, then we'll just get up behind.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, boy, that's that's so true. I mean, even like
<v Speaker 3>ten years ago, you would never think we would have
<v Speaker 3>had its conversation.
<v Speaker 1>Come on, man, I mean, I mean, like you used
<v Speaker 1>to do what VHS and DVDs was it? Was it?
<v Speaker 1>How long agoes? How long ago was it? VHS's when
<v Speaker 1>Blockbuster was still open. You gotta be eighties, eighty, late
<v Speaker 1>late eighties, maybe ninety it was in the.
<v Speaker 5>Nineties, because I rememberies two thousand and nine.
<v Speaker 4>I think the last one's closed somewhere around like two
<v Speaker 4>thousand and nine or at least, you know, I think
<v Speaker 4>that the proper video still was closed mid to late
<v Speaker 4>two thousand.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, oh yeah, yeah, probably it was like fifteen years ago.
<v Speaker 6>I think there was a special about that the last.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, there's still one in like or again.
<v Speaker 4>There were a couple that started up in for the novelty,
<v Speaker 4>but I'm told yeah, the majority of video stoles in general.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think they have one that they went out
<v Speaker 1>for parties. They come a party Blockbuster. Hey, yeah that
<v Speaker 1>is that would be cool? Actually yeah yeah, Well I
<v Speaker 1>I worked in a store called video Depot and it
<v Speaker 1>was in the eighties.
<v Speaker 6>Video deep Yeah, video.
<v Speaker 3>Depot, and my sister and brother in law had started
<v Speaker 3>it with their friends and they got up to like
<v Speaker 3>ninety stores and they were getting ready to go public
<v Speaker 3>and something hit the fan and and uh and then
<v Speaker 3>they just kind of got and then Blockbuster showed up
<v Speaker 3>and kind of obliterated them.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So, uh yeah, all I have is a bunch
<v Speaker 1>of old VHS tapes now to show for it. And
<v Speaker 1>do you still have a player? Uh no, yeah, that's
<v Speaker 1>a problem.
<v Speaker 6>That's a glitch and they're very expensive to get now
<v Speaker 6>yeah really.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you still get one, but they're they're they're not
<v Speaker 2>they're expensive because they're not around anymore.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that ain't no fun. Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>Well, it's like you were talking about you. You did music,
<v Speaker 2>you were in a band. I've never been in a band,
<v Speaker 2>but I have a music project that I'm doing now.
<v Speaker 1>Oh good.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I got a six song EP, my first song released.
<v Speaker 2>It's on all the different platforms. It's it's kind of
<v Speaker 2>pop house. The song, the particular song is called Dance.
<v Speaker 2>It's under a different name, though it's called dance because
<v Speaker 2>that's what I do, right, Yeah, but it's it's under
<v Speaker 2>the name Trey Emmanuel Trey Manually because I wanted to
<v Speaker 2>establish something that was different from my acting career. Let
<v Speaker 2>the music be the music and the acting be the acting.
<v Speaker 2>And then my name is so synonymous with Power Rangers
<v Speaker 2>that I wanted to be its its own entity. But
<v Speaker 2>the way I came up with the name is my
<v Speaker 2>dad's name is Walter Emmanuel Jones. My name is Walter
<v Speaker 2>Emmanuel Jones. My son is Honor Emmanuel Jones. So that's
<v Speaker 2>three emmanuals, So Trey many three Emmanuel mean God with us.
<v Speaker 2>And it's also our middle name.
<v Speaker 3>So you know.
<v Speaker 1>That's all right. That's the name. Good for you.
<v Speaker 2>And you can find it in all platforms right now.
<v Speaker 2>It's Spotify, Apple, so forth and so on. iHeart so
<v Speaker 2>check it out guy, right.
<v Speaker 1>Exactly. If you can't find it there, just look at
<v Speaker 1>my Instagram and it's there. So fantasy. What's your Instagram
<v Speaker 1>it's Walter E. Jones. Walter, Yeah, Walter E. Jones.
<v Speaker 2>That's for most everything, Walter E. Jones for TikTok, for YouTube,
<v Speaker 2>for Instagram. My Facebook is walterre Manual Jones, which is
<v Speaker 2>a little harder to find because the name Immanuel is
<v Speaker 2>not spelled biblically. Most people want to spell it with
<v Speaker 2>two m's or two l's. It's just one M, one
<v Speaker 2>L E l A n u e l Okay.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well it probably pops up though. Yeah, it's fine.
<v Speaker 1>I'll try it myself. Yeah. Hey, Walter Jones, Blackgranger there
<v Speaker 1>he is. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's cool. Yeah, that's awesome, Chris.
<v Speaker 4>I think about me, Tom, we do a voice swap
<v Speaker 4>instead of doing a voicewap. I think it does be
<v Speaker 4>awesome to hear Jim scream it's morphin time as various characters.
<v Speaker 1>Oh man, I will love that scream though. Okay, we
<v Speaker 1>don't scream it, we just see it.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's fair, no screaming, but at least he has
<v Speaker 4>to do the morpha action though.
<v Speaker 1>He's got to do this. It's morphin time. It's more
<v Speaker 1>fun time. It's morphin time, it's boating time.
<v Speaker 6>It's I am the terror that flaps in the nighttime. Okay,
<v Speaker 6>it's morephun time.
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, okay, how would tas do it? That is amazing, Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>that is amazing. Don't try that at all. It might hurt.
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, actually, go ahead, try just do it.
<v Speaker 4>Man, When you originally did that that it's morphin time sequence?
<v Speaker 4>Did you just film it once and they just reuse
<v Speaker 4>the same footage over and over again because it seemed
<v Speaker 4>that way when you watched it.
<v Speaker 6>Yes, yes, no way, it's not the same one every time.
<v Speaker 4>It is.
<v Speaker 2>You did it one time, Maybe we did it more
<v Speaker 2>than once, maybe we did it twice. But no, it's like, well, okay,
<v Speaker 2>that's right, let me let me clarify it. So in
<v Speaker 2>every episode, when we're about to do it, we put
<v Speaker 2>our hands behind her back and we go, we get
<v Speaker 2>in line and we go.
<v Speaker 1>It's war for time.
<v Speaker 2>So that happens regularly, but then when we go when
<v Speaker 2>it flips to our our characters, we do master it on.
<v Speaker 1>Top. So all that, all of that we did once
<v Speaker 1>because that's consistent every time.
<v Speaker 2>But each time we were about you know, when it
<v Speaker 2>was about to go down and we're in the situation,
<v Speaker 2>that was always you know, original to the circumstance.
<v Speaker 4>I just find it so fascinating how they made that
<v Speaker 4>original show because majority of the footage was just taken
<v Speaker 4>from the Japanese Super Sentai series. Oh yeah, I mean
<v Speaker 4>you got to you went doing the fighting.
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, no, I did quite a bit of fighting,
<v Speaker 1>but I was in the suited fighting scene.
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, Sorry. I meant the fighting in the suits
<v Speaker 4>when you could see your face in your fighting, the
<v Speaker 4>putties and always all those kind of sequences in that.
<v Speaker 4>But when you're in the suits and you megazor and whatever,
<v Speaker 4>you weren't actually doing that. That's what I was more getting.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, the lower the lower level you know, bad
<v Speaker 2>guys or sometimes the big bad guys you know individually
<v Speaker 2>might we might fight them, but yeah we didn't. That
<v Speaker 2>It was interesting because they took the show. They took
<v Speaker 2>fifteen minutes of it, like the last half and then
<v Speaker 2>they created fifteen minutes of the first part, which is
<v Speaker 2>the story of us and you know what we might
<v Speaker 2>be going through and why we might have to fight
<v Speaker 2>this this new monster. Yeah yeah, wow, but it was trippy.
<v Speaker 2>Where were they based in the story in the show.
<v Speaker 1>We were in Angel Grove, which is California. Yeah, California.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we shot in the Culver City originally, and then
<v Speaker 2>we moved out to Valencia shot out there.
<v Speaker 1>That's the one I was thinking of. Yeah, Valencia, there's
<v Speaker 1>a lot. Oh yeah, there was.
<v Speaker 2>And Saban had a couple of shows shooting out there.
<v Speaker 2>He had Big Bag, Beatleborgs and.
<v Speaker 1>Another show. I can't think of the name of it
<v Speaker 1>right now, but he was. He had Us and two
<v Speaker 1>other shows and we go in and visit each other
<v Speaker 1>sets and that was always fun. That's cool. Yeah, it's
<v Speaker 1>pretty cool.
<v Speaker 5>You were talking about, you know, traveling, traveling the world,
<v Speaker 5>through conventions, through working on the cruises. What's your favorite
<v Speaker 5>place that you've ever been?
<v Speaker 1>Wow? So this is my thing.
<v Speaker 2>I am not a person favorites I have There's been
<v Speaker 2>so many different things. I can't say one in particular place,
<v Speaker 2>but I can give you three. I'll give you three.
<v Speaker 2>So I loved Bally. Bally was amazing. I went to Bally,
<v Speaker 2>I went to the forest and hung out with the monkeys.
<v Speaker 2>I went to temples there. The culture was beautiful, the
<v Speaker 2>food was great, the beaches were beautiful. That was probably
<v Speaker 2>the most out of what I knew to be normal
<v Speaker 2>that I experienced. I also love Brazil. Brazil's like, that's
<v Speaker 2>that's my second own, you know, like my brother's in Brazil.
<v Speaker 2>Like they think on Portuguese, They're like, hey, just start
<v Speaker 2>talking to me and in Portuguese, and I don't.
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what you're saying. I got too bad,
<v Speaker 1>That's what I got. I got that, you know.
<v Speaker 2>But you know again, beautiful culture, beautiful food, beautiful people, beaches.
<v Speaker 1>Like I love that. And then where else have I been?
<v Speaker 5>At?
<v Speaker 1>Thought was pretty amazing.
<v Speaker 4>You know.
<v Speaker 1>I really enjoyed Australia. You know, Australia was very cool.
<v Speaker 2>I mean it's got lots of personality and uh, you know,
<v Speaker 2>the the nature there is amazing. And I went to
<v Speaker 2>a zoo there that was unlike any zoo I've ever
<v Speaker 2>been to. I mean, all the animals were like super
<v Speaker 2>strong and happy and colorful, and I was like, oh,
<v Speaker 2>this is different, Like, wow, they were in Australia and
<v Speaker 2>some of them.
<v Speaker 3>Weren't necessarily behind the cage. Okay, now he knows to
<v Speaker 3>stay there exactly, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, he's not
<v Speaker 3>pissed right right right.
<v Speaker 2>You know.
<v Speaker 3>I remember getting a kick out of seeing the Tasmanian Devil,
<v Speaker 3>you know, these little guys and they're they're just running
<v Speaker 3>and and and I remember the first time I saw
<v Speaker 3>one on TV. I thought somebody was choking around over
<v Speaker 3>dubbed literally my voice on the thing and they.
<v Speaker 6>Actually go.
<v Speaker 3>They actually do that, And I'm going ship like, dang,
<v Speaker 3>mel blank knew what he was doing.
<v Speaker 1>I guess you know. I wasn't. I wasn't original, but
<v Speaker 1>that just knocked me out. I don't know why. When
<v Speaker 1>I when I went to Brazil the first time on
<v Speaker 1>cruise ships, but two cans don't sell froot loops. I
<v Speaker 1>found that out, No they don't. I was shocked, dang it.
<v Speaker 1>Looking for something. I went on a tour in the
<v Speaker 1>rainforest of Brazil and monose and is it just always
<v Speaker 1>moist or what I mean, is it.
<v Speaker 6>It's humid, really just humid.
<v Speaker 2>Well, I wasn't there during the rainy season, so during
<v Speaker 2>the rainy season, they get up to thirty feet of water.
<v Speaker 2>What so it changes the entire you know, topography of
<v Speaker 2>the land because like what is what? What are trees
<v Speaker 2>in the summer? Are bushes in the winter, and they're
<v Speaker 2>like in the water, right. And I took I did
<v Speaker 2>a tour where I took a I went up a
<v Speaker 2>vein of the Amazon and with a tour guide in
<v Speaker 2>a little boat. And as we were driving we were,
<v Speaker 2>you know, going up through this vein of the water
<v Speaker 2>in Amazon and the rainforest, Prana start jumping into the
<v Speaker 2>boat perfect and I was like, uh, And they're like,
<v Speaker 2>don't worry about them. They they can't do anything to
<v Speaker 2>you when they're out of water. But I'm like, but
<v Speaker 2>they're in the boat, okay, but what about my I'm
<v Speaker 2>wearing sand exactly jump on and like, you know, like
<v Speaker 2>it was crazy. And then we probably I mean they
<v Speaker 2>were probably about this well, I would say, like six
<v Speaker 2>six inches five six inches, like.
<v Speaker 3>And and like complete with them. Yeah, with the with
<v Speaker 3>they looked like pistol. They could be smiling and they
<v Speaker 3>look like they want to kill you.
<v Speaker 1>They do they do.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they hop around in a boat and you feel
<v Speaker 2>like it's a mousetrap waiting.
<v Speaker 1>To catch you.
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, right, like it's just like that's good, Like.
<v Speaker 1>A mousetrap just waiting to catch you with teeth, with teeth. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>that was that was wild. And uh we took uh.
<v Speaker 2>We slept in the rainforest, uh, in a tinted area,
<v Speaker 2>and we also hunted for we got well they are
<v Speaker 2>our guy. As we were going up this vein to
<v Speaker 2>our campsite, he had a flash slight out and was
<v Speaker 2>looking at the shore and he could see the alligator's
<v Speaker 2>eyes because they glow in the dark, you know, the flashlight.
<v Speaker 2>And he got out of the boat. Oh why not
<v Speaker 2>and rab one.
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't that big.
<v Speaker 2>It was maybe like three two or three feet, grabbed it,
<v Speaker 2>wrapped something around his nose and handed it to me
<v Speaker 2>like here, I want to take a picture him like, dude,
<v Speaker 2>you better get this alligator off.
<v Speaker 6>Fortunately his mama.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was right exactly. And I was thinking about
<v Speaker 1>it later. I was like, what if.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he would have gotten snatched by alligator and now
<v Speaker 2>I'm in his boat in the middle of Amazon at night.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like not knowing where to go. Yeah, this could
<v Speaker 1>have been disastrous. Yeah. Yeah, I was like, well, it's.
<v Speaker 6>Not like the piranhas are going to give you directions home.
<v Speaker 2>Now.
<v Speaker 1>I was like, Hey, where where do I go from here?
<v Speaker 1>It's crazy. Yeah, it was an adventure. I've had a
<v Speaker 1>lot of adventures during my life, which is yeah, that's
<v Speaker 1>that's a pretty good one. Yeah.
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<v Speaker 6>Found the back of an alligator Once you stepped on
<v Speaker 6>the back, yeah.
<v Speaker 1>I thought it was a log. Oh my god. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>that's as close as I can come to move.
<v Speaker 3>But once yeah, Well, I was the deckhand on a
<v Speaker 3>riverboat in Louisiana and we we had to tie up
<v Speaker 3>the toe because we had to go into this place
<v Speaker 3>it was very small, and pick up a bunch of barges,
<v Speaker 3>bring him back out, strap them all together. This mid
<v Speaker 3>it's about three or four in the morning, and and
<v Speaker 3>so the toe had moved. So that meant the thing
<v Speaker 3>that we because you tie it up to a tree. Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>the DECKHD the low guy on topo he scrambles his
<v Speaker 3>ass up there pardon my French, and ties it to
<v Speaker 3>a tree. Well, you know, the water move and that
<v Speaker 3>that rope got to be real tight, and so they
<v Speaker 3>had to push I was in a skiff and I
<v Speaker 3>would They had to push it closer closely to the shore.
<v Speaker 3>And I'm using the rope like this to get you know,
<v Speaker 3>without a didn't need a paddle. Yeah, And so there's
<v Speaker 3>this little embankment.
<v Speaker 1>It's about four feet up and so I just stepped
<v Speaker 1>out onto this log to hop up.
<v Speaker 6>And it wasn't a log as all.
<v Speaker 3>So and I'm holding and I going up onto this
<v Speaker 3>thing and I'm standing, and of course the rope starts
<v Speaker 3>getting sinking down.
<v Speaker 1>Into the water. Ship got back up, back up.
<v Speaker 4>You know.
<v Speaker 1>I just hopped out and I made it.
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I scared the thing more than it's probably
<v Speaker 3>only about four or five feet long.
<v Speaker 1>Pretty big kick my ass. Yeah, you know that's picking
<v Speaker 1>up for me. Yeah. I mean they can jump out
<v Speaker 1>of the water as well, which is yeah.
<v Speaker 6>And they're fast.
<v Speaker 3>They're fast they're like a horse. Yeah, you would have
<v Speaker 3>never seen that one coming. No, you know, no, wait
<v Speaker 3>a minute, I'm just gonna run.
<v Speaker 1>What the hell get this thing off of men? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I'll pass.
<v Speaker 5>I have a question for you, Walter. I apologize if
<v Speaker 5>this is a sensitive subject, but I just noticed on
<v Speaker 5>your left hand that you're missing a finger.
<v Speaker 1>Oh damn it dropped it again. Look if you find
<v Speaker 1>any cushion and mellets to me.
<v Speaker 6>Okay, yeah, well we told the alligator story.
<v Speaker 1>Yes exactly, we did. Well.
<v Speaker 2>You know what, when I was a kid, I had
<v Speaker 2>found a gun in my house. I thought it was
<v Speaker 2>a toy. It was a derringer, you know, like those
<v Speaker 2>little small guns. Yeah, they're cool. They're cool unless you're
<v Speaker 2>four years old and you don't know what you're doing. Yeah, So,
<v Speaker 2>uh found a deringer and my sister and I argued
<v Speaker 2>about it because we thought it was a cab gun
<v Speaker 2>and we were trying to shoot each other.
<v Speaker 1>The safety was on it.
<v Speaker 2>And then I took it from my sister. You know,
<v Speaker 2>guarantee her. I was going to fix it and just
<v Speaker 2>be patient and we'll shoot in a moment. My sister
<v Speaker 2>went and told my mother on me. Mom, watched the
<v Speaker 2>gun from me.
<v Speaker 1>My mother said, what gun?
<v Speaker 2>And at that point I pulled back the safety, the
<v Speaker 2>pull back the latch on it, and it wouldn't go
<v Speaker 2>back down her. I thought I broken it, and I
<v Speaker 2>was trying to fix it, and I just pulled the
<v Speaker 2>trigger and it went off of my head.
<v Speaker 1>I lost my finger.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, shattered the bone at four years old. And yeah,
<v Speaker 2>if anybody finds it, if you let.
<v Speaker 1>Me know, yeah, wouldn't fit anymore. It wouldn't fit. I
<v Speaker 1>don't know.
<v Speaker 2>It kind of be weird, but you know, I can't
<v Speaker 2>say that it was a problem. Actually was a benefit
<v Speaker 2>in some ways. I wasn't able to learn the type
<v Speaker 2>because the teachers didn't want to give me extra attention.
<v Speaker 2>I wasn't able to go to the military because.
<v Speaker 1>You can't lose. You can't lose two digits to joints.
<v Speaker 1>Can't lose. So almost went to the Air Force.
<v Speaker 2>I was the They were like, sorry, son, you can't
<v Speaker 2>join the military. You're missing two joints. I was like,
<v Speaker 2>but what I mean, it's not stopping me. But I
<v Speaker 2>wasn't able to.
<v Speaker 1>So not type.
<v Speaker 2>I tried to learn the piano, but it was Golton
<v Speaker 2>and guitar was difficult. I needed a left handed guitar.
<v Speaker 2>But it did keep bullies away because oddly enough, the
<v Speaker 2>girls love the fact that I was missing a finger
<v Speaker 2>that come up to me in class and go, excuse me.
<v Speaker 2>Somebody told me that you're missing a finger. And I'm like,
<v Speaker 2>oh yeah, and they were like can I see it?
<v Speaker 2>And I'll go yeah, and I'll put my hat out
<v Speaker 2>on the table and they will resound and touch it
<v Speaker 2>and then I move it and.
<v Speaker 1>And they're like you could touch it, and they would
<v Speaker 1>touch it. They were like, oh, that feels cool, and
<v Speaker 1>then like they were intrigued. But the boys were like, no,
<v Speaker 1>I making that away from me. No, man, you know.
<v Speaker 2>Exactly, but they want to catch them as a finger.
<v Speaker 2>So one time I was walking to school. Uh and
<v Speaker 2>at that point, when I was younger, we had safety boys.
<v Speaker 2>I think, you know, they would have different kids that
<v Speaker 2>would volunteer to help people walk across the street and
<v Speaker 2>they have to I had a little orange belt, right,
<v Speaker 2>So I this kid was probably a problem child and
<v Speaker 2>was a bully, and they thought, well, we'll give him
<v Speaker 2>a duty and that might help him. So here I
<v Speaker 2>am late for school and I'm walking. I get to
<v Speaker 2>this this intersection. I gotta walk across the street and
<v Speaker 2>I'm looking up and down and there's no traffic coming
<v Speaker 2>and I start walking across the street. Well the kid goes, hey,
<v Speaker 2>I didn't tell you could walk cross the street.
<v Speaker 1>Get back over there.
<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, bros, no car, what are you doing?
<v Speaker 2>And it's winter time in Detroit. I'm wearing gloves, right,
<v Speaker 2>So I'm standing there and he's like, all right, you
<v Speaker 2>can go now. So as we walk across the street,
<v Speaker 2>I fix my glove. I close my hand and that
<v Speaker 2>middle finger is sticking straight up right. So he sees
<v Speaker 2>it and he's like, what are you doing? I was like,
<v Speaker 2>what are you talking about it? He's like, I've left
<v Speaker 2>my hand up and he goes, oh yeah, and I'm like, oh,
<v Speaker 2>I realized now he thinks I'm flicking off. And he
<v Speaker 2>walks over and he goes apologize. I'm not apologizing for anything.
<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to school like you. I probably I won't
<v Speaker 2>hurt you. And I'm like, what, I know, there's nothing there.
<v Speaker 2>It's not gonna hurt.
<v Speaker 1>He grabs it.
<v Speaker 2>He starts fitting it all over the place. He's like,
<v Speaker 2>he's break my fingers, like say, you're sorry. And I'm like, oh,
<v Speaker 2>he's like, say you're sorry.
<v Speaker 1>Finally, I just stopped moving, and I go, I'm not
<v Speaker 1>saying anything. He goes and he goes hard.
<v Speaker 2>Right, he's trying to hurt me. And he goes, how
<v Speaker 2>come that won't hurt you? And I take off my
<v Speaker 2>hand my glove and I go because I got the
<v Speaker 2>four fingers of death and I put it on his
<v Speaker 2>neck and he's like, this kid never bothered me ever again.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>Oh god, I've seen an old martial arts movie where's
<v Speaker 2>the master lost a finger and he like strengthened it
<v Speaker 2>whatever and they called him the four fingers of death.
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, yeah, I put it on his neck and yeah,
<v Speaker 1>he never bothered me again. Yeah, the four finger death
<v Speaker 1>hold or something like that. That's pretty cool.
<v Speaker 6>That's cool.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah.
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>So now if you see me walking around in the
<v Speaker 2>wintertime and I have my hands closed, if that finger
<v Speaker 2>sticking out, I'm not trying to flick you off.
<v Speaker 1>I'm just missing a finger, that's all I think.
<v Speaker 2>Eventually I learned to take that little, that little, so
<v Speaker 2>people didn't notice the missing fingers so much. When I
<v Speaker 2>was on Power Rangers and we wore gloves and so
<v Speaker 2>you know, we did, we did wear the suits occasionally
<v Speaker 2>take off our helmets and you know, do like different
<v Speaker 2>shots like that, And so I would have that little
<v Speaker 2>finger stuck down on the glove so it wasn't as
<v Speaker 2>noticeable and like just kind of hanging and playing around.
<v Speaker 1>I recalled to it.
<v Speaker 2>Well nothing people didn't like even today, people were like,
<v Speaker 2>you're missing a finger. I'm like, yeah, when did that happen?
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, it was four, but really, like I saw you.
<v Speaker 2>I watched all your episodes that never.
<v Speaker 1>Well I was I was older than four. Yeah, I
<v Speaker 1>was older four exactly.
<v Speaker 4>So that they would try and wipe that into a
<v Speaker 4>story on power ranges regarding your finger.
<v Speaker 2>No, no, And they never brought attention to it. It
<v Speaker 2>wasn't and I probably would and wanted them to. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>I didn't need that to be, you know, part of
<v Speaker 2>the story. Yeah, he's the four figure ranger. That would
<v Speaker 2>be kind of weird.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I'll pass. Yeah, I'll pass. It's fine. And
<v Speaker 1>yeah there's the four footed cat.
<v Speaker 2>But it's interesting now a four footed cat. Yeah, it's
<v Speaker 2>interesting now that people will walk up to me and
<v Speaker 2>they'll be like, wait, are you he the black Ranger.
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, yeah, yeah, I am. And they're like, let
<v Speaker 2>me see your left hand proof, yeah that.
<v Speaker 1>Way t or some something. They're like, oh, okay, I'm
<v Speaker 1>seeing a thing on his left hand. Let me see it.
<v Speaker 1>Let me see your head.
<v Speaker 6>I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a cool calling card
<v Speaker 6>upside down exactly.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Yeah, I'm mean that's that's me. It's me. Oh
<v Speaker 1>that's cool. That's a scream. Yeah.
<v Speaker 5>Was there was there anything to uh being black as
<v Speaker 5>the black Ranger?
<v Speaker 2>Well, for me, I found her to be quite powerful
<v Speaker 2>because here, I am a young black kid from Detroit,
<v Speaker 2>Motor City, Motor City Motown and predominantly a black city.
<v Speaker 1>So and the time that I grew up in was
<v Speaker 1>a time where that was you know, you there was James.
<v Speaker 6>Brown saying loud, I'm blocking on proud.
<v Speaker 2>So it's like there was a there was a shift
<v Speaker 2>of being you know, people being a shame to being black,
<v Speaker 2>to people being very proud of being black and growing
<v Speaker 2>up in a black city, and and you know, then
<v Speaker 2>becoming a black superhero in a black suit.
<v Speaker 6>I was like, oh, forget about it.
<v Speaker 1>Oh man, this is.
<v Speaker 6>Perfect for me.
<v Speaker 4>Now.
<v Speaker 2>The idea of me being in a black suit never
<v Speaker 2>bothered me, and in fact I was I was happy
<v Speaker 2>about it. When I first saw this song, I thought
<v Speaker 2>it looked cool as well. I didn't think I would
<v Speaker 2>look I thought I might look cool and red. I
<v Speaker 2>know I don't look cool, and the blue CUF I've
<v Speaker 2>seen it. The black was what I wanted to wear
<v Speaker 2>when I said, when I saw it, I was like,
<v Speaker 2>I want this one. They're like, that's yours. So but
<v Speaker 2>the idea of why I wore the suit was because
<v Speaker 2>of the Japanese footage. And the Japanese footage, the Red
<v Speaker 2>Ranger was the leader, so in nineteen ninety two, I
<v Speaker 2>wasn't gonna be later, I wasn't gonna be the leader
<v Speaker 2>of the show. And then the Red Ranger and the
<v Speaker 2>Black Ranger were kind of always together, so if something happened,
<v Speaker 2>the Red Ranger and the Black Ranger took over, and
<v Speaker 2>the Blue Ranger, according to the story, was the nerd
<v Speaker 2>and wasn't a great fighter. So you know, I wasn't
<v Speaker 2>gonna be the Blue Ranger. I wasn't gonna be the
<v Speaker 2>Red Ranger. I was the Black Ranger. And we originally
<v Speaker 2>and our pilot had a Latina plain. The Yellow ranger.
<v Speaker 2>But after we got picked up and we came back,
<v Speaker 2>she asked for more money and they fired her. They
<v Speaker 2>got another no, this is we had a tweet Train
<v Speaker 2>who was an Asian girl. So then it became odd
<v Speaker 2>because at first she was Latina and it's like, Okay,
<v Speaker 2>I'm wearing the black suit, black guy with no bigger joe.
<v Speaker 2>But then when tweet Train came in, it's like she
<v Speaker 2>was an Asian girl in a yellow suit. And it
<v Speaker 2>was like, oh, that's a little odd. But you know,
<v Speaker 2>but it wasn't a big deal. No, but the kids
<v Speaker 2>didn't care to kids, was that Native American?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?
<v Speaker 6>You know, I mean that's where the next one, that's where.
<v Speaker 1>That's what they.
<v Speaker 2>Right, And the pink par ranger was a girl, and
<v Speaker 2>the yellow part rangers also a girl. But you know,
<v Speaker 2>it's like somehow I was yeah it was a gold
<v Speaker 2>or yellow.
<v Speaker 1>I guess it was. It was just But I think what.
<v Speaker 2>Happened was as kids got older, they went, hey, that's
<v Speaker 2>that's a funny thing, and then they turned it into
<v Speaker 2>something that was never meant to be. People try to
<v Speaker 2>make it into something that was prejudiced.
<v Speaker 1>I had a lot of.
<v Speaker 2>People coming, what do you think about par rangers being prejudiced,
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, well, I'm a role model for kids
<v Speaker 2>in forty different countries, and I don't what's prejudice about that?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, where's the bad news? Looking bad? Exactly? Am I uneducated?
<v Speaker 2>Am? I? Was? I? Like?
<v Speaker 1>Was I somebody that was not you couldn't be proud of?
<v Speaker 2>You know? Like when I look at my the people
<v Speaker 2>I grew up with watching kids when I was a kid,
<v Speaker 2>the kid the people that were on TV that I
<v Speaker 2>I remember, uh, were like Buck Wheat. Now, oh, he's
<v Speaker 2>a great character, but but I don't want to be
<v Speaker 2>Buck Weed. Yeah, you know in either yeah right, And
<v Speaker 2>he didn't.
<v Speaker 1>Have a lot to say, you know.
<v Speaker 2>And and although he was fun character he was it
<v Speaker 2>was comedy, you know. And and there was also mister
<v Speaker 2>Bojangles from Shirley Temple. He was subservient. He was great character.
<v Speaker 1>You loved him. He's like your uncle, but he was
<v Speaker 1>he was the higher help. So for people to be
<v Speaker 1>able to.
<v Speaker 2>Grow up with me and go, oh, he is as
<v Speaker 2>equal to any other ranger, and in fact stands out
<v Speaker 2>because he has his own style of martial arts and
<v Speaker 2>he's also.
<v Speaker 1>Cool and got swag. Yeah, I was a badass. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>he's a badass. Yeah.
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, so that helps.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly, Like I thought that was very inspirational, and
<v Speaker 2>I know that it was because that's what I'm told
<v Speaker 2>every time.
<v Speaker 1>Here we are thirty years that's great.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and these kids that were kids are now, you know,
<v Speaker 2>between thirty five forty five. I'm like, I got grown
<v Speaker 2>men coming to me that look older than me, that
<v Speaker 2>are like, I grew up with you. You aspired me
<v Speaker 2>to be this, So it's amazing.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I think that too. I think something kind of
<v Speaker 1>walks up and he's like, sixty five, you.
<v Speaker 6>Know, you raised me, and I go, no, damn it,
<v Speaker 6>I didn't, damn it.
<v Speaker 1>Straighten up. How'd that work? Oh?
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, how that Yeah?
<v Speaker 1>Goddamn, how does that work? But I think it's beautiful.
<v Speaker 2>I think it's you know, to have been an inspiration
<v Speaker 2>to anybody in my life, Yeah, is a blessing. I
<v Speaker 2>mean because ideally you want to you know, you want
<v Speaker 2>to leave a mark on the world that is something
<v Speaker 2>that you know, your legacy. You want something that you
<v Speaker 2>can be proud of. And you know, in my family,
<v Speaker 2>I am I stand out as somebody that really made
<v Speaker 2>a difference.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, for sure.
<v Speaker 2>So I'm proud of that. No, I mean, like, but
<v Speaker 2>you know, my my I was inspired by my mom
<v Speaker 2>and dad. They were they inspired to be singers. My
<v Speaker 2>dad could sing, you know. But I, you know what,
<v Speaker 2>everything that I do, everything I've accomplished, say, uh, I'm
<v Speaker 2>very proud. I got some fan mail back in the
<v Speaker 2>day when we were doing the show, and we got
<v Speaker 2>lots of family. But I wasn't able to read all
<v Speaker 2>of them, but I was able to read quite a bit,
<v Speaker 2>and one of them was a fan from New York. Uh.
<v Speaker 1>He was a kid who was telling me the story
<v Speaker 1>about how, you know, he and his brothers.
<v Speaker 2>His cousins, his family would go out of play Power
<v Speaker 2>Rangers after school and you know, everybody had already kind
<v Speaker 2>of picked their character and they given him the Black Ranger.
<v Speaker 2>So you're gonna be a Black Ranger because he's the
<v Speaker 2>Red Ranger in the now. And he didn't want to
<v Speaker 2>be my character at first, he said, you know, he's
<v Speaker 2>like he wanted to be a Red Ranger. He wanted
<v Speaker 2>to be a Blue Ranger. And he's, you know, a
<v Speaker 2>white kid, and he didn't have any black friends, so
<v Speaker 2>he didn't know anybody that was black. He didn't associate
<v Speaker 2>and he was not from Dedra, right, but he was
<v Speaker 2>saying that he you know, after he started playing being
<v Speaker 2>a black Ranger, playing as a black Ranger, he started
<v Speaker 2>really paying more attention to me in the show, and
<v Speaker 2>he started becoming, you know, prideful the fact that he
<v Speaker 2>was a black ranger because you know, I was had
<v Speaker 2>swag and I was like, you know, I was I
<v Speaker 2>was reliable, I was loyal, I was like all the
<v Speaker 2>good characteristics of my character. And it made him want
<v Speaker 2>to start learning hip hop. So he started taking hip
<v Speaker 2>hop classes and then from hip hop, he got all
<v Speaker 2>these other friends and he learned to dance. And now
<v Speaker 2>he was embedded in this culture of dance that included
<v Speaker 2>so many different kind of people that he had ever experienced.
<v Speaker 2>And his letter to me was saying, thank you for
<v Speaker 2>being that inspiration to me, because at first I didn't
<v Speaker 2>want to I didn't want to be you, But now
<v Speaker 2>I'm so happy that I was. I got to be you,
<v Speaker 2>and now I teach hip hop. Hip hop is something
<v Speaker 2>I'm so good at, like I own. I'm like, I
<v Speaker 2>I teach a choreographed for different people, and I was like,
<v Speaker 2>oh man, that's a great story.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's all it really is.
<v Speaker 6>You never know who you're gonna touch.
<v Speaker 1>You just don't know who's who's going to poke through
<v Speaker 1>the web. And that's amazing.
<v Speaker 5>I got a quick little story for you. You know,
<v Speaker 5>I grew up in the nineties. Okay, I was a
<v Speaker 5>big Power Rangers fan.
<v Speaker 1>Ni.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I really liked you. Remember they sold the toys
<v Speaker 5>and McDonald's remember that, And they used to only have
<v Speaker 5>like certain colors in certain states. And so we were
<v Speaker 5>doing this cross country family reunion trip, you know, all
<v Speaker 5>the way out and I think it was where was
<v Speaker 5>that family reunion? Oh, I thought she'd hear me. Atlanta, Atlanta, Atlanta,
<v Speaker 5>And we're driving across the southern states and you know,
<v Speaker 5>stopping at every McDonald's to try and get the say
<v Speaker 5>what yeah, And I'm looking looking looking for the black Ranger,
<v Speaker 5>and I swear it was the rarest one, like no
<v Speaker 5>no places had it anyway. So that's that part of
<v Speaker 5>the story. And then I thought I was a Power
<v Speaker 5>Ranger and my mom would be in the tanning salon.
<v Speaker 5>She would take me along to the tanning salon. I
<v Speaker 5>was like five six years old, and I would run
<v Speaker 5>up to random people waiting in the lobby and I
<v Speaker 5>would start punching and kicking. Well that was problematic, yeah, yeah,
<v Speaker 5>And so they'd help go out to get her out
<v Speaker 5>of the bed and be like, your son is just
<v Speaker 5>going DUTs, and I'd be like, I'm a power ranger,
<v Speaker 5>like I'm allowed to do this.
<v Speaker 6>I'm not going nuts. I'm seeking justice exactly.
<v Speaker 1>Well what I used to tell parents, because like you know,
<v Speaker 1>that was a thing. So a lot of kids would go.
<v Speaker 2>I mean when I watched Bruce Lee in the theater,
<v Speaker 2>I would come out kicking and punching that cab beat
<v Speaker 2>him and Jim Kelly. I wanted to be just like them, right,
<v Speaker 2>And so I understand what that feels like, because the
<v Speaker 2>excitement of wanting to be a martial artist and everything
<v Speaker 2>that comes with it was like ooh, so I I
<v Speaker 2>went it was.
<v Speaker 1>I was putting martial arts when I.
<v Speaker 2>Was a kid, probably so I wouldn't be bullied because
<v Speaker 2>I was always small, although I had kind of figured
<v Speaker 2>out a way to maintain and not be a scaredy cat.
<v Speaker 2>But put me in martial arts. My cousin was in
<v Speaker 2>martial arts. And what it taught me was it taught
<v Speaker 2>me to be confident. It taught me to be It
<v Speaker 2>taught me self control, taught me not to hit people,
<v Speaker 2>you know. It taught me how to throw a punch
<v Speaker 2>and stop it before I hit them, you know, to
<v Speaker 2>find that distance. Like we would have to spar and
<v Speaker 2>the rules were you had to keep a three three insistents,
<v Speaker 2>so you didn't actually punch someone or kick someone, and if.
<v Speaker 1>You did, you you pulled it. You learn how to
<v Speaker 1>pull it. And so I after that, I grew up
<v Speaker 1>being very self confident.
<v Speaker 2>And when I would almost get into a fight, if
<v Speaker 2>somebody was you know, coming up towards me, I could say,
<v Speaker 2>I will do something because I was taught as martial
<v Speaker 2>artists not.
<v Speaker 1>To hit first. It's self defense. Self defense. It's not
<v Speaker 1>just to go hurt people to defend yourself.
<v Speaker 2>So if and I was taught that because you're learning
<v Speaker 2>this martial arts, you are a weapon, and that you
<v Speaker 2>can hurt somebody and if you do then you could
<v Speaker 2>be legally, you know, liable. So uh, I was like, Okay,
<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna hit you unless you hit me first.
<v Speaker 2>So that changed the mentality. So when somebody's talking some stuff,
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, well hit me, hit me if you're gonna
<v Speaker 2>do something, do something, and that would make people go, way, wait,
<v Speaker 2>he's scared, Yeah, just want to be scared. And I would,
<v Speaker 2>and they gave me the power to go hit me
<v Speaker 2>if you're gonna hit me in there, like if they
<v Speaker 2>like him the hard about it. I was like, man, whatever,
<v Speaker 2>you ain't gonna do nothing, I will walk away. So
<v Speaker 2>now I wasn't a punk. I wasn't a bully.
<v Speaker 1>You know.
<v Speaker 2>I was like, I stood up for myself. I held
<v Speaker 2>my ground, but I wasn't gonna waste my time, like
<v Speaker 2>you're wasting my time. You're not gonna hit me some
<v Speaker 2>walking away and that that changed the whole game. And
<v Speaker 2>so I think you know, when when I would when
<v Speaker 2>power just came out and all these you know kids
<v Speaker 2>were wanting to be like us, I would always inspire
<v Speaker 2>the parents put your kids in martial arts because it had.
<v Speaker 1>Changed your life.
<v Speaker 2>It really does give you a sense of self control
<v Speaker 2>and self confidence, which is important.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know I heard it put in a long, long,
<v Speaker 3>long time ago. You never throw the first punch, right,
<v Speaker 3>damn sure throw the last.
<v Speaker 1>So the last there it is. You go.
<v Speaker 2>It's like once you've given me permission, and that was
<v Speaker 2>your your bad yeah, you probably shouldn't have done that.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, And I probably told you not to do
<v Speaker 1>it anyway. Yeah.
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it's not like it was a big secret in
<v Speaker 6>your opinion.
<v Speaker 4>Is there a particular age you recommend for kids to
<v Speaker 4>start learning martial arts? Because my kid's five, and he
<v Speaker 4>watches the shows on Ninja Turtles and Powerings and whatnot.
<v Speaker 4>He'll occasionally do what we're just talking about. He'll play
<v Speaker 4>with his sister, doesn't hurt it, but he'll do the
<v Speaker 4>play fighting. But I think he's still a little bit
<v Speaker 4>too young to understand the concepts of what we're just
<v Speaker 4>talking about. Do you think five is too young to
<v Speaker 4>learn martial arts?
<v Speaker 1>Not necessarily, No.
<v Speaker 2>The thing is, in a martial arts class, what you ideally,
<v Speaker 2>what you have is a very responsible senset. The martial
<v Speaker 2>arts instructor is going to be giving them this. Outside
<v Speaker 2>of being the father and having your layer of the land,
<v Speaker 2>you're like, this is the way, these are the laws
<v Speaker 2>I want you to buy by. In a martial arts class,
<v Speaker 2>it's altogether different because now you're learning to hit and
<v Speaker 2>kick and punch, and your martial arts instructor is going
<v Speaker 2>to teach you how to do it. So you know,
<v Speaker 2>he's suffering you, and when you step on that mat,
<v Speaker 2>he's he's in control. And so you learn the respect
<v Speaker 2>for someone that is higher authority than you. And if
<v Speaker 2>you don't learn that pretty quick, you're going to figure
<v Speaker 2>out that that's not a good idea.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you don't want to go to Cobra Kai.
<v Speaker 2>And you don't want to go to Cobra Kai, right right,
<v Speaker 2>don't swoop then, age, honey, don't do that. But if
<v Speaker 2>you yeah, I think at five years old, kids are
<v Speaker 2>already learning. I started like like eight, eight or nine,
<v Speaker 2>but you could start at five. I mean it's still
<v Speaker 2>a young concept and what's taught to them won't be
<v Speaker 2>you know, how to hurt someone, to be about defending.
<v Speaker 2>There's codage. They're like there's things that you learn like
<v Speaker 2>a katat where it's a routine that shows you different moves,
<v Speaker 2>how it will be applied and so forth.
<v Speaker 1>So on.
<v Speaker 2>That's usually way it starts before you start sparring or
<v Speaker 2>or anything like that. So definitely, I think, you know
<v Speaker 2>it's five years old is not necessarily too young, but
<v Speaker 2>you know it's up to you. It depends on your supervision.
<v Speaker 2>You could all to go take class with them. Thank, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>I could. You wouldn't listen to me though, He listened
<v Speaker 2>to the sinse right, and you just go along for
<v Speaker 2>the ride exactly. I mean, maybe it's best if he
<v Speaker 2>goes without you at first, because he needs to understand
<v Speaker 2>that concept of all right, this is.
<v Speaker 1>What it is. There you go, this is what it is,
<v Speaker 1>the voice of experience.
<v Speaker 4>Did you have a loan? Marshall watched Jimuh No, huh.
<v Speaker 6>Used to box when I was a kid.
<v Speaker 1>Box That was just great. Not a mixed martial art.
<v Speaker 1>It was just Marshall. Yeah. It was an artistic No,
<v Speaker 1>boxing is very artistic.
<v Speaker 3>I did that for a while, but then I wasn't
<v Speaker 3>one hundred and thirty pounds anymore, okay, And then I
<v Speaker 3>was one hundred and fifty pounds and everybody was six
<v Speaker 3>feet tall, and I was like, oh, hell no, you
<v Speaker 3>know I don't need this grief.
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I got in the band. There you need more chicks.
<v Speaker 1>There you go. You know it's a little better. Well,
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<v Speaker 3>Like I was telling you, tell me, let's do the
<v Speaker 3>Trey Emmanuel Trey Emmanuel Okay, okay, can reiterate things.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, so it's not Trey with the Wives t R
<v Speaker 1>E Emmanuel E M A n U E L Trey
<v Speaker 1>a manual.
<v Speaker 4>Make sure we put the link for in the description
<v Speaker 4>of this podcast.
<v Speaker 1>Oh perfect, Yes, Oh there we go. First song, it's
<v Speaker 1>called Dance.
<v Speaker 2>I'm planning to release the second song, which is going
<v Speaker 2>to be a rap song, probably November so and I'm
<v Speaker 2>planning to do for.
<v Speaker 1>Our birthday, for our birthday exactly.
<v Speaker 6>That's birthday, November third, you said over November thirtieth.
<v Speaker 1>There you go. Gives us a window. I've got those
<v Speaker 1>eleven threes, right, that's a beautiful thing.
<v Speaker 4>I love that.
<v Speaker 1>I love that something we got in common. That's right.
<v Speaker 5>Anything else you want to promote currently, I think.
<v Speaker 1>That's that's that's it.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, just besides the fact that I'm out, you know,
<v Speaker 2>meeting the fans, I'm tooing around. I love meeting the fans.
<v Speaker 2>I love making people dance. I love putting smiles on
<v Speaker 2>people's faces. So if I'm anywhere near, you come out
<v Speaker 2>and see me, and you won't regret it.
<v Speaker 1>Because you have a good time. Wow. And what was it?
<v Speaker 6>Ranger Station Ranger?
<v Speaker 1>Stop?
<v Speaker 3>Rangers Stop? Yes, you're not out there with smoking the bear. Nope, No,
<v Speaker 3>it's all Power Rangers, Forest Rangers. Yeah, these are power Rangers.
<v Speaker 3>It's like we got thirty years of Power Rangers and.
<v Speaker 2>We've probably had maybe I don't know, twenty different casts,
<v Speaker 2>maybe twenty one different.
<v Speaker 6>I was gonna ask you how many total.
<v Speaker 1>I can't tell you for sure. However, I know there's
<v Speaker 1>over one hundred Rangers, no kidding, Yeah, I mean I
<v Speaker 1>didn't see that one coming.
<v Speaker 4>Is that right?
<v Speaker 1>Let me think?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she'd be about right, six Rangers each season. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>about twenty seasons. That's wow, Like that's would be a
<v Speaker 2>one to twenty.
<v Speaker 5>But wow, yeah, damn did not realize.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so there's a lot of Ranger. Sometimes the fans
<v Speaker 2>will come up to me and go so what do
<v Speaker 2>you think about this?
<v Speaker 4>This?
<v Speaker 1>Uh, what is it? What is called the Ranger curse? Like,
<v Speaker 1>what are you talking about?
<v Speaker 2>They said, there's a Ranger curse because because we lost
<v Speaker 2>the Yellow Ranger, and there was a Red Ranger that
<v Speaker 2>got in trouble with his roommate, and then there was
<v Speaker 2>the we just recently lost Jason David Frank the Green Ranger.
<v Speaker 1>Wasn't it green or something?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he was the Green Ranger originally didn't turn the
<v Speaker 2>White Ranger. And they're like, you know, it's a curse.
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, bro, there's like one hundred and twenty people. No, No,
<v Speaker 2>there's no cur that's like one hundred and twenty Rangers.
<v Speaker 2>I mean it's not like there's a cast of five
<v Speaker 2>and that was it. Yeah, happen everybody. There's been one
<v Speaker 2>hundred and twenty Rangers.
<v Speaker 1>Things. Life happens to people. Yeah, you just you never
<v Speaker 1>know ours. There's a I think that means it happens.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.
<v Speaker 4>You stay in touch with many of the visional costs
<v Speaker 4>after you left the show.
<v Speaker 2>No, No, I mean we often see each other at
<v Speaker 2>comic cons and so forth and so on. The thing
<v Speaker 2>is is life happens, and and people grow up and
<v Speaker 2>get families and move to different places. So I think
<v Speaker 2>we're all dispersed at this point. Debieos is still in
<v Speaker 2>Los Angeles, and so we see each other on occasion,
<v Speaker 2>but we're also I'm busy, he's busy, and when we
<v Speaker 2>see each other it's like love.
<v Speaker 1>It's like it's like, oh, yeah, there's my brother. You know,
<v Speaker 1>it like that.
<v Speaker 2>But you know, we all our individual lives and are
<v Speaker 2>doing our own things, but we're all friends still.
<v Speaker 1>That's a beautiful thing. Yeah, we're the only ones that
<v Speaker 1>know what we know our journey. That's right, that's right. Yeah, Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>it's like brothers in arms. Yeah, we've been through.
<v Speaker 2>We we saw it from the beginning to now and
<v Speaker 2>everything that we've experienced is only what we've experienced.
<v Speaker 1>So something about being the originals. Yeah, and it's been
<v Speaker 1>a damn good experience, yes, sir. Absolutely. Wow. I can't
<v Speaker 1>thank you enough for coming out. Man. I'm so glad
<v Speaker 1>I got to come out ears hang out with you.
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, come on, man, this is good stuff. I
<v Speaker 1>do that any any of any day. Can you talk
<v Speaker 1>and hang out? And yeah, it's a mad thing. Yeah, yes,
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate you having me. I appreciate you being had
<v Speaker 1>right and there it is right, Chris right, Brendon.
<v Speaker 5>Well, thank yeah, that was great. That was a lot
<v Speaker 5>of fun.
<v Speaker 1>Thanks guys, that was awesome. All right. I can't wait
<v Speaker 1>to hear it.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, thank you very much.
<v Speaker 1>It is thank you, And now I have a sandwich
<v Speaker 1>waiting for me, yes, kind of sandwich. Sandwich. That was good.
<v Speaker 1>That was great.
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, what a cool little interview, because, like I
<v Speaker 2>talked about a lot of stuff I don't usually talk about.
<v Speaker 3>Good