Hour 2: Oregon's Win & the CFP System

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Speaker 1: We're doing on We're throwing that around way too much lately. Okay.

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Speaker 3: Two Hall of famers, one one in the Pro Football Hall of Fame, now one of the College.

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Speaker 1: Football Hall of Fame. Damn right, just to ask him and Professor Styx Yep.

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Speaker 1: Sticks picks. Yeah, his pick is.

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Speaker 3: To be a professor apparently at at Penn State University, which there are some who will be a big time fan of that as I fall into that category. It's like Jonas who are are asking the alumni base if they're upset that that is now watered down their degree, that LaVar is teaching a class.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I just you know, I'm all about, you know, be fair and balanced on this show, man, and I just think that it's important to uh to get to the bottom of this stuff. And I also wonder, you know this kind of you know, poison the well, so to speak. That's all I mean. I just I just want to know what. I want to know what these classes are going to look like. I want to know if that's why he's not here because he's preparing for you know, putting together his lectures and all that.

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Speaker 1: I just want to know. I gotta know. I will say this, and I think you would agree with this.

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Speaker 3: He has been incredibly enlightening in both of our lives for the many times and conversations we've had, mostly off the mic. That is correct. Yes, there's I'm sure there's a lot of education that's going to be taking place. Yeah, that is That is correct.

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Speaker 4: He is.

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Speaker 2: He's definitely definitely this. He's definitely somebled who's got quite the resume. So sore. They're getting a U they're getting one of the great professors and they don't even know it yet. But you can't listen to us on the iHeartRadio app. You can find us on hundreds of affiliates all across the country. You can also check out our brand new YouTube channel for the show. Just search two pros FSR on YouTube. Agin that's two pros FSR. Be sure to hit the subscribe button. Don't stop there, hit the thumbs up by icon and comment away. Let us know who on the show you agree with, who you think is wrong with Check out our new channel on YouTube. Begin just search two pros FSR and subscribe. You mentioned this earlier you were at the Orange.

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Speaker 1: Bowl that yeah, yeah, take it away. Look, I'll say this, and I mentioned it before.

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Speaker 3: I think one of my biggest takeaways and in regards to the teams that are going to be competing for a national championship that are still in it, and maybe what went wrong for the teams that were in the playoff that it didn't go well, I mean, first and foremost to me, there's no, no, there's no more important position in all sports in the quarterback, even though look again, you're only out there, you know, let's say a third of the time if you really break up the snap counts with special teams of defense. However, I think even more so at college football, and the reason is, I just think there's not as much talent at the college level on most teams.

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Speaker 1: So a quarterback you can play.

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Speaker 3: A high level, is able to raise that, you know, level of everyone else at around him. And I think you've seen that with Indiana this year and obviously Fernanda Mendoza. I think you saw that a little bit of Dante Moore this year, the quarterback for Oregon for Texas Tech.

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Speaker 1: At times he did with Baron Morton, but this was not one of his best games.

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Speaker 3: You know, he really struggled. He went up against a team that's got the ability to rush, got the ability to cover, and that was very evident. I just I think that was unfortunately one of those poor performances offensively for Tech. That was not you know how they played the entire season, and then you got to give Dan Lanning his staff credit, their players credit, but also that's just it's a bat out. It's a bad day, and I thought Oregon in every capacity was the more physical team. But there's also an element of I mean, just when I watched Texas Tech this year, if you go back Evento the Utah game, Barry Morton struggled. You know in that game, he got injured. You know, missed a period of time this year. And it's tough because you know he is He's the type of player and kid that wanted to always be the starting quarterback at Texas Tech. Like this is him living out his dream and that was his final game, and to go out that way, it's never the way anyone.

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Speaker 1: Wants it to go. So it stinks for Texas Tech.

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Speaker 3: But I think that's a big step for the program what they're able accomplish. Went in the Big Twelve, you know, getting a bye, being a you know, number four seed in the playoff, but now you've got a Dan Lanning team an Oregon that Jonas, to me feels more like Ohio State last year, right, Like, didn't play in the Big Ten championship game, had that time to collect themselves, got some momentum going in the first round, and now another dominant performance in the quarterfinal, like squarely looking for revenge.

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Speaker 1: In that rematch versus Indiana.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it looked like there's like it feels like Dan Lanning the experience based on last year. And he's been very vocal about just the scheduling. You know, look at that this game should have been played at Loubic I didn't want to go there, so on and so forth. But he also talked afterwards about some ways to improve, some ways to change, some things to get done in the world of college football to help everybody.

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Speaker 3: What do you think of not having thing a first round by this season.

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Speaker 1: I guess it works, right.

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Speaker 5: You know, I've been a proponent for games to be happening much quicker for a long time. I think that's best for college football. Again, I felt like this game, the Orange Bowl first off, was unbelievable. I should have, you know, really gave him kudos to the Orange Bowl because it's been a great experience. But it's not the same bowl experience anymore when you talk about playoffs, right, you know, our guys didn't leave the hotel. They had a mindset, you know that we can celebrate when this thing's all over with, and they were really focused.

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Speaker 1: But the hospitality here was unbelievable.

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Speaker 5: But we're trying to serve two different purposes here, and this is a playoff. Playoff, in my opinion, should have been played in Lubbock, Texas.

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Speaker 1: I said that before.

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Speaker 5: That's not because we wanted to go play in Lubbock.

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Speaker 1: I certainly didn't.

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Speaker 5: I'm glad we played here in Miami and it was good prep for us. But you know, last year a very similar situation for us. Feel like that game should have been playing in Eugene, and there's a lot of people who do playoffs. You know, I feel like the playoffs have looked a certain way for a long time. We're trying to serve two purposes here, and the amount of time in between games. Obviously it's tough for teams. You know, we experienced it last year.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it makes a lot of sense. I also would say this being at the Orange Bowl last year and you were there yesterday, And this is not to give credit to you and LeVar and your alma maters, but being at the Orange Bowl last year felt a little bit more significant than maybe the one yesterday that.

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Speaker 3: Was again but different circumstances, right, I mean, you had a night game and a semi final game where the winner. I mean, it's after New Year. You're not dealing with the holiday, especially a noon kick in Miami, which if there's anywhere that parties and stays.

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Speaker 1: Out all night, it's Miami.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I can't tell you how many people I met while I was there who were either still just rolling in from the night before or had a quick turnaround.

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Speaker 1: And we're not happy about it. I mean, they're the dog. But by the way, did you just do yourself a favor?

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Speaker 2: Like if you go to X type in Dan Lanning and just find out what the first word is afterwards. All Right, No, Dan Lanning was not partying on South Beach. He's just got a lot of energy. Okay, I'll put it that way, Like people got to stop making reckless accusations against Dan Landing. Enough's enough guys fired up on the sidelines.

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Speaker 1: I'm not even going to touch that. But but I'll just I'll say this.

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Speaker 3: I think it's tough for the quarterfinal games because we saw this a bit a little bit last year too, with some of the fan bases.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there was a.

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Speaker 3: Much greater Texas Tech crowd that was present for that game, and it was noticeable inside the stadium, maybe not so much thout the course that game, just because of the way the game went so low scoring in the first half and the obviously the second half, Oregon distanced themselves.

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Speaker 1: But if your Texas Tech, like you.

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Speaker 3: Know, outside of the Big Twelve Championship, you didn't have a first round game, so this was that moment to travel to it you don't know if your team's gonna win or not. For Oregon fans, I mean, they've you know, now gone to you know, if you're probably going up to Eugene. You know, that's a fan base that would probably have to travel. There's fans up in Eugene, obviously, but you know they've been coming from all over the Pacific Northwest, maybe all over the country, you know, to see that first round game.

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Speaker 1: And then you got to decide, am I going to go to the Orange Bowl?

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Speaker 3: If I'm expecting Oregon, which they were a slight favorite to win, I got to prepare for that next trip, you know that in the next place we're going. And I think that's the tough part about the playoff system in general right now with a lot of the New Year six games, is it stresses the fan bases. It does stress some of the Bowl games, especially in the quarterfinal round, to sell out some of those tickets. I mean, geographically speaking, can we not take a gander or look at where the teams are coming from, Like maybe we don't need to just have set assignments, Like maybe we sit there and say, would have it not been better to have this game played in the Rose Bowl between Texas Tech and Oregon, Like, wouldn't that be a little better than having both teams have to travel across the country?

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Speaker 1: To South Florida.

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Speaker 3: Like again, I'm just throwing out ideas, because if a tendance is your concern and the environments you're concerned, that's always going to be an issue for the quarterfinal round. In my opinion, I just think you're gonna have a hard time doing it as the semi final round. Obviously it gets close in for national championship, those aren't concerns. What's crazy to me, though, is the fact that this might be the only time on record in college football history that you could get a team that plays for the national championship in their home stadium. Now, you probably have to go back to the days where, maybe even.

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Speaker 1: Before the Bulls, where you just.

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Speaker 3: Played your schedule and the associated press and teams kind of claimed the national championship.

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Speaker 1: Like you have to go to those days.

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Speaker 3: So I'm not a historian, but I would imagine if Miami makes a national championship game, they'll I have a chance to do something that I don't know that will ever be replicated outside of again, potentially the Hurricanes if they can keep this thing on a run and Miami ends up being a host sitting in the future.

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Speaker 2: Let me ask you something about Dan Lanning. So he makes the comment that we're trying to do two things. Is it possible to feed both beaces?

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Speaker 1: Like, is it possible to have this college football playoff but still keep the traditions that are the bowl games that we've all grown up with and watched for so many years. Like it's a subtle.

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Speaker 2: Thing, but you know there was something too, you know, Rose Bulls kicking off an hour earlier. Like it's a subtle thing, but it's the sunset, Like there's there's the I just wonder, is there a way to do both? Or we just passed the point to where it is what it is?

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Speaker 6: Man?

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Speaker 1: The playoffs going to change everything. I think the playoffs's going to change everything, you know, because if.

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Speaker 3: We're being honest about the desire to expand further, you know, you're you're going to probably get rid of conference championship games, you know. I think there's been some ideas floated out about twenty four teams, which to me is too many. I mean, I don't I don't think that makes as much sense. I know, we've got one hundred and you know thirty some teams in FBS. So if you look at the percentage of teams actually that would then have a chance to play for the national championship that would probably more closely resemble you know, obviously not what we have in the NFL, but you know what you have in college basketball, so that there might be some there might be some validity to that, but I would say sixteen makes the most sense.

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Speaker 1: I don't really believe in buys.

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Speaker 3: I think all these programs should have the chance to host a home playoff game, just having been to a number of them. It's just it's an incredible atmosphere and it's a ton of fun from that point moving forward, though, I don't know, I'm not sure how you know, you change anything outside of you know, really seeing how those first round games play out and basing where those teams will go in the quarterfinal round.

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Speaker 1: Based on you know, maybe the you know, the.

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Speaker 3: Higher ranked team and the region, right like, that's that's the only way you could kind of go about doing that. So create some flexibility to it, yeah, I mean, and again that's tough to do when you're asking these teams, depending on how much times in between those games.

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Speaker 1: To deal with that.

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Speaker 3: So that's that's the first issue. But going back to the initial point, we talked about in the first hour, the college football calendar is it's a problem.

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Speaker 1: It's never made sense to me. It's never syncd up.

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Speaker 3: I mean, thank god, you know, the powers that be got to get and said we don't need two transfer portal windows.

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Speaker 1: I have no idea why.

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Speaker 3: No other sports of my knowledge in college sports has two windows. You only needed one. And we're moving closer, obviously to doing the right things. But start the season a week zero, start moving through faster to the actual playoff after a conference championship weekend. If we're going to keep those games and then end this thing on New Year's or around New Year's I mean, help, you know, play it somewhere in this vicinity, you know, after New Year. But I don't think we need to extend it as far out as we do into January. I don't think you need to have to, you know, try to compete with the NFL, which seems very intent on taking up every Saturday possible now, which used to be sacred for college football. I mean, like, let's do some things that are in the best interest of the sport in the long term, not just how we're trying to line our pockets right now.

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Speaker 1: Cash grab. Everything's a cash grab.

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Speaker 2: And I also look back last year in the Bo Prabula situation at State when he had to transfer and everyone's like, oh, how could you leave you? I mean, he's leaving his team and you know, he's entering the portal and they're in the semi final and they've got the Orange Bowl coming up. And James Franklin was the first guy who defended him and said, look, man, he doesn't want to do this. He like, he doesn't want to leave his team. And it also puts him in a It wasn't like perrule. It didn't appear in games either, like he had some experience. If something would happened to Drew Rowler last year, all of a sudden, you don't have that guy because he's got to enter the portal and ends up at Missouri. It just it feels like this is a problem, and even the coaches who are having to see these guys leave are stepping up going they don't want to do this. Like everybody's on the same page. It doesn't make any sense, and for some reason it's still here. Well again, we have a professional model.

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Speaker 3: And I keep going back and forth because I remember my first year out from playing calling both NFL and programs, and I'd always have questions for Mike Proer and Dean Blandin. I'll just say, why are these rules not the exact same of both levels?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like what are we doing here?

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Speaker 3: Well, for example, one of the hardest things for quarterbacks when they adapt from college football into the NFL is dealing with where.

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Speaker 1: The hashes are.

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Speaker 3: Now, there's a number of reasons we can kind of go into and all that. Obviously, you know, the wider the hashes are, the easier. It makes those boundary throws. So you know, high school, college, you know, have a little wider hashes.

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Speaker 1: But also it's the manner in which you.

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Speaker 3: Spread the field, So the field feels more spread out because the ball is placed on one side more so than the other. But you get through the NFL, it's basically in the middle because the hashes are so narrow. So, you know, this transition for quarterbacks oftentimes pre snap post snap, when you're trying to read whether it's a one high safety meeting there's a safety in the middle of the field or too high, it actually flips. You know, in college football, when you see a safety near the hasher thing and split safety coverage in the NFL when you see a safety and or a hasher thing in post high and I know that sounds like super elementary, and people are like, what's so hard about that?

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Speaker 1: Well, when you're.

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Speaker 3: Doing it in the midst of everything else, you have to take into account as a quarterback when you're yeah, I have to make a decision in two and a half seconds, it actually makes it a little harder than you think when you've been trained a certain way for years. So I just I mean the eighth official thing we brought up with Dean Blandino earlier this week.

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Speaker 1: I have no idea. If they want extra eyes on.

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Speaker 3: The field, why they don't just bring on an extra eighth official to help get the call right on the field.

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Speaker 1: It's like, well, that's a college football thing.

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Speaker 2: I was like, oh, okay, you know you mentioned the uniformed rules at both levels. I completely forgot if had this. So I was watching with my son. There's a bowl game. I forget which one it could, like the Dollar Tree Bowl, Like, who cares. It was some bowl game and they were doing a replay of a catch made by a guy at the college level, and he got one foot in and they you know, it was a completion, et cetera. And my son says to me, and I swear to God Papa, but both feet he didn't get both feet. I was like, well, no, it's college. In college, you only have to have one foot in.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: In the NFL, yet you have to have two feet in. And he was like why. I was like, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Nothing. I have no answers for you.

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Speaker 2: I don't know why there are certain rules that are different at college and are in the NFL. I have no idea. It seems like it would make the most sense in the world. It's pretty easy. It's the same product. Yet for some reason, there's two different ways to to rule it and officiate it.

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Speaker 3: It's weird to have stripe on the ball, no stripes. You can keep going with it. I mean, even the way you can, you know, doctor the balls and how they're providing the NFL risk college are completely different.

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Speaker 1: So there's a lot of there's a lot of things. I mean, I don't know, this is the hill I'm willing to die on. Why not? But come on, let's go. I would just.

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Speaker 3: Generally say this, in the professional model, you don't have free agencies start until the quote unquote new league year defined as you know, in the collective bargaining agreement.

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Speaker 1: And I realized there's a lot.

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Speaker 3: Of legal just you know people, or I should say attorneys are legal minds excuse me, that are smarter than I. So there's some that don't feel like we'll ever get a collective barn and agreement.

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Speaker 1: There's something that feel like we do.

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Speaker 3: Whether we do or we don't, I do think it be it would be in our best interest to move up the season, figure out a way of making the transfer portal after the season is concluded, allow the players coaches to focus on what we should all be focused on right now, and that's the teams that are going to try to play for a championship and end a story like there doesn't need to be any other debate around you know why it should be any other way, And if we want to use the academic calendar as an excuse for it, we threw the academics out a long time ago, or at least a few years ago. Once you started involving in IL, once you started involving the transfer portal, and zero limitations on the amount of times they transfer everything else. The academic desires of these student athletes went out the window. It's all about the money. It's all about where I can go play and make money. That's the concern for people, as long as they stay eligible enough. These a lot of these players don't even go to class anymore. They literally will never step foot in a classroom all online. So that's that's the point of which we're at now. And again I'm not trying to judge it. I think it's the same bad long term, but you know, for where we're at now, let's at least clean up the calendar so we can prioritize the things that matter most, and that should be winning a championship.

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 2: I got another uniform rule that we should implement. How about this Major League Baseball aluminum bats. Let's go, all right, you can you can do it. Aluminum bats, all right, because like I want to see tank shots.

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Speaker 3: Someone's gonna die like those guys, the way they'd rip the ball.

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Speaker 1: The chance is what it is, all right, is what it is. That option idea, just.

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Speaker 2: Letting you know, like there's there's a way that we can help out every sport. If they would just keep thinking, it would make things easier for everybody telling.

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Speaker 4: You, man, I kind of advocate for the illuminum bats too, personally, like just pipe shots with aluminum bats.

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Speaker 3: That makes it exciting for me is you can have a team up like twelve to four in the seventh or eighth inning, and there's a legit.

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Speaker 1: It's they're gonna rip off ten runs in one.

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Speaker 2: No lead is safe, all right, everybody's wearing a bike helmet or something in the Yeah, you're.

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Speaker 3: Gonna be bringing back cut guy's gonna be taking cross shots driving like especially third base.

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Speaker 1: Let me tell you something. Two days into the new year, and you and I have just solved two major problems uniform rules in football, uniform bats in baseball.

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Speaker 3: Two days in, I'm not advocating for aluminum bats. I think that'd be I mean, first off, guys be rewriting the record books too. It's like I'd rather see them juicing up again with the wooden bats as opposed to using the aluminum.

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Speaker 2: Batsy Patrick, keep this conversation for when we don't want to talk NBA after football is over. Would you rather have aluminum bats or steroids in baseball?

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Speaker 1: Take your pick? Yeah? Noted? Right now, keep that up.

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Speaker 3: I'm just saying, like I want my hitters to look like Mark McGuire's forums, right, that is correct, and I'm not making any claim he was or was I was saying, I just want everyone to look absolutely jacked to the gills when they stand up that plate holding well, it looks to be a toothpick.

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Speaker 5: Thanks.

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Speaker 1: Correct.

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Speaker 2: And if you see a paint can of Andro and his locker, look the other way. Don't be so nosy, all right, look And if.

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Speaker 1: You have an issue with me saying this right now, that's the where.

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Speaker 3: I grew up in Okay. I was born in the eighties. Love eighties music, love the nineties. As far as the style of basketball they played back then too, as I still think they should bring back the physicality to the NBA.

00:20:31
Speaker 1: And I'd lived in an.

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Speaker 3: Era where you watch dudes who were absolutely jacked launched that ball outside of stadiums and I missed.

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Speaker 2: It's the Dan Patrick Show here on Fox Sports Radio. He's Brady Quinn, I'm Jonas Knox and for Dan and the guys. By the way, coming up in about twenty minutes from now, We've got some explaining to do in the world of football. There was some really poor choices made. We will discuss that for you right here again a little over twenty minutes from now on FSR. So, one of the elements that we are going to bring to the Dan Patrick Show coming up in hour three is one Albert Breer. All right, Albert Breer, who you know is an NFL insider, does a tremendous job, but he's also a regular guest on Two Pros and a Cup of Joe with myself, Rady Quinn, and LeVar Arrington every single Thursday. And one of the things about Albert Breer is that he loves Ohio State.

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Speaker 1: I'm and are you sure he's coming on today?

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Speaker 2: That's the problem it's been. The communication has been a little wishy washing with ab.

00:22:50
Speaker 1: Is that Patty? Is that correct?

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Speaker 2: Like you've gotten, you know, real quick responses, but no confirmation.

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Speaker 1: That he's going to be on.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, correct, Okay, he said sure and well sure and never got back.

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Speaker 1: So we're assuming he's gonna be on.

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Speaker 2: But if he's not, just know it's because Ohio State got their ass whooped over the weekend that was or in the past couple of days.

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Speaker 1: Feels like a weekend anyways.

00:23:18
Speaker 2: But New year's eve was not kind to the Ohio State buck Eyes as they got smoked by Miami.

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Speaker 1: Like that game didn't feel close. And here's the thing about Albert.

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Speaker 3: It's not like he comes on our show and doesn't do a tremendous job with NFL news, but also insane that he does kind of peacock around talk not us about.

00:23:38
Speaker 1: How good Ohio State is.

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Speaker 3: So I think the hard thing bring is he probably never foresaw this potential performance happening. I mean, we've been talked to him since the Big Ten Championship. I feel like you're taking a lot of time off lately.

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Speaker 1: I think we have talked to him, but those conversations anytime they veered towards the Big Ten title game, like he tried to steer clear of those. Yeah, because we did find out that he was in attendance for that. That's right.

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Speaker 3: And he's the mush as I've said a thousand times, I mean he is, he is the cancer to Whenever Ohio State loses a game, you can look around and look for Albert Breer.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's been my experience.

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Speaker 3: He's usually there again, gallivanting around, you know, screaming.

00:24:18
Speaker 1: No age, you know, but then it's it's usually bad things happen.

00:24:21
Speaker 3: So if I'm a Buckeyes fan, I'm probably telling Albert maybe just watch him home from now on.

00:24:26
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that would make Michael save him money, saved him heartache, and and he wouldn't have to bear witness to what Ohio State has done to him so many times before. It is kind of crazy, though, to think that the Michigan game was their last win of the season, like that was it so enjoy enjoy it? Why you could but give Miami credit? Man, that was it seemed like they were in total control early on, and it just seemed like every bounce went the way of the Hurricanes. Literally, like it seemed like every play. It just felt like early on it was just not going to be the day for Ryan Day and the buck guys.

00:25:04
Speaker 3: They've looked out of sync or out of sorts really since that that Michigan game, and look some of it again may have to do with the fact that their offensive coordinator, who Brian Hartlin, did a tremendous job this season. There's a lot of us played in that Big Ten Championship game. It was somewhat discussed and talked about in Ohio State circles that you know, maybe that wasn't the best idea to have him call.

00:25:25
Speaker 1: Plays while he's the head coach now at.

00:25:27
Speaker 3: South Florida and trying to construct a staff and talk to them about recruiting and everything else that goes along with that. I mean, trying to find a place to live for your family. It's not easy for these guys in their transition. So maybe some elements of that played a factor. Ryan Day took over the play calling in this particular matchup, and you know, again, it felt like they just could never really find what they needed to.

00:25:51
Speaker 1: But I think the thing that stood out.

00:25:52
Speaker 3: To me the most was there was one glaringly obvious weakness for Ohio States offense, and that was their inability to consistently run the foot. It felt like when they could this year, it was a bit of smoke and mirrors or maybe on some lesser opponents, but the offensive line was probably just average if we're being honest with ourselves, and you went up against the two best edge rushers in college football, you know, Ruben Baines junior Messador on the other side, it came mesador like both those guys would be playing on Sundays, and I think you got a good dose of what they're capable of doing. And I know a lot of people made a lot of this season of them not having even more sack production, but they were teams were very intent of.

00:26:30
Speaker 1: Trying to eliminate them from games.

00:26:32
Speaker 3: So I look at that match and I say, once Ohio stay became one dimensional, which they kind of entered the game that way, and they really struggled to be able to run the football.

00:26:40
Speaker 1: It was a wrap because that plays.

00:26:42
Speaker 3: Right into the hands of what Miami wants to do, and that's put you in a one dimensional mode, get a lead and then try to have you come from behind thrown against that secondary, which has been largely improved. Before the season, they hit the transfer portal hard and it helped. They got healthy. They got a new offensive coordinator, Corey Heatherman is in an incredible job coming from Minnesota. But that's their style, and Mario Cristobo is one of the best O line coaches in the country as their head coach. Has a massive offensive line that was just going to keep running the football and grinding away, grinding the way Ohio stated had four possessions in the second half, four that is it.

00:27:19
Speaker 1: A lot of people think it's because the pace of play that played.

00:27:21
Speaker 3: A role in that too, but it's also because Miami was kind of milking the clock in some of these longer drives. So again, there's a bunch of different things you can point to. If you're a Buckeyes fan. The reality is you just got beat by a better team. I mean Miami right now. I think it's a team that can win in a greater variety of ways in Ohio State can Was this the biggest surprise.

00:27:41
Speaker 2: For you of the weekend or why do I keep saying the weekend for chrisis?

00:27:45
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Football play like? Was this the biggest surprise for you?

00:27:50
Speaker 3: In no, No, Honestly, I thought Texas Tech Oregon would be a much tighter game. You know, as you know we talked about this. I did think Oregon would win. I didn't think it was going to look like that. I thought there'd be a bit more fireworks credits to both defenses.

00:28:05
Speaker 1: I mean, that's again another team that.

00:28:06
Speaker 3: Hit the transfer portal hard and they made their presence fell you know, Heights on one side, Bailey on the other. Like those dudes can absolutely get after their entire defensive front is one of the best in college football, so I knew there'd be elements of that, but watching the outcome of this Ohio State game, it felt more as if it was a team that you know, outside of their identity and throwing the football as saying if they couldn't protect him, he was going to struggle. I mean, he hasn't been great when he's been under durest this year versus the Bulitz is one thing. But when people are pressing you and usually got you know, usually quarterbacks aren't, they're going to struggle a bit.

00:28:42
Speaker 1: But that was the only.

00:28:43
Speaker 3: Thing they could hang their hat on this year. It was the talented wide receiver. But again, there's a you could go into, like really deep into this O O Higo State because I think there's a lot of things that you can question, like the personnel usage. They have the best receivers in college football, and too often times they're running twelve personnel with two tight end sets. And that's not taking anything away from Max Claire, for example, he's one of the better tight ends, but you only have one football and it's hard to get the football around all these different playmakers. And the other thing is that I thought was the most surprising thing because Ohio States been really good at this typically is the receivers have been some of their best blocking on the perimeter. There was a reverse they ran, Carnell Tate whiffed and Jeremi Smith got tackled for a minimal gain if at all the pick six that was on Jeremi Smith, that was his man Scott ripped through their identified it. Jeremi I should have been should have been blocking him, and instead it's a touchdown going back the other way. So, you know, the blocking on the perimeter, even something that you know Brian Hartline's do an incredible job with his receivers in the past, like that was even a bit surprising. You know, the field goal kicking up until the Big Ten Championship game, maybe in sam in Michigan, some of the other spots. I didn't think it was overly shaky until the last you know, few games, but all of a sudden that became a liability for them. So it just this is just not an Ohio State team like we saw last year that when they got into the playoff, they lit the world on fire and they played like the team they were capable of I don't know that this Ohio State team ever really played up to their capability this entire year.

00:30:14
Speaker 2: I mean it does put to uh put to test, you know, beat Michigan or win a national title. You know, there is that So I mean, look, it's not.

00:30:24
Speaker 1: The question is is Ryan Day on the hot seat?

00:30:25
Speaker 6: Then?

00:30:26
Speaker 3: Right, because that's usually what people tend to do after a while state they tend to be a bit hyperball, like they tend to overreact about uh some of these some of these things.

00:30:35
Speaker 1: But is that is that the question you're trying to ask?

00:30:37
Speaker 4: Now?

00:30:37
Speaker 3: I mean it I think I think if someone says, yes, you're a moron, all right, that's just what I'd say. He's an unbelievable coach and you're a moron if you think Ryan Day's on the hot seat.

00:30:47
Speaker 2: He's been fantastic man. Like I like the conversation about him being on the hot seat, Like, I think it illustrated two things. One people are insane. Two like that rivalry is real. And I've I've said this, I thought I understood it. And then the longer I did the show and the conversation in having discussions with you being from you know, Columbus, Dublin area. Like the longer I did the show, either more I realize, oh no, this is like a real thing, like it's it's that, or you're looked at differently and they don't care what you do outside of that, You're just looked at differently. So I do wonder that it would be interesting to get Albert Breer's thoughts if he doesn't answer his phone. I do wonder if, now, upon further review, if you were to tell Ohio State fans in the moment in ann Arbor, by the way, last one of the season for you right now, would you take that or would you rather still be playing in the semi final and getting ready to try and win another national championship, Because that's it's just a wild, wild turn of events for the Ohio State buck guys.

00:31:52
Speaker 1: But you know events.

00:31:55
Speaker 3: But I do think we're not giving credits to Miami enough here too. And really, Maria crystal Ball, who you know, in the past, I think has had his moments where there's been some game management issues. That was obviously not a case in this game. If you look at the build up from twenty twenty two just to where they are now, I mean every single year have gotten better and taken that next step, and now we find them knocking on the door. The way they're playing right now is the best team maybe in college football. So a lot of credit goes to him, Shannon Dawson there office coordinator. He does an incredible job of finding ways of getting his playmaker of the football. Malachi Tony's a stud as a freshman, but they dial up unique ways of getting.

00:32:31
Speaker 1: In the ball.

00:32:32
Speaker 3: And I think probably the thing that's come alive the most and has been most revealing of who this team is. And if you're talking about the Hurricanes, and it really defines who their coaches. They've been a tough, physical team to the line of scrimmage, both sides of the ball. They were laying the hammer against the Yeah A State, but even then, just in the trenches like that, that's what wins, and that's really where you know. Murray Crystobol has has, I think, to me, define this team the most. He knows that better than anyone else, being you know, a whole lineman, and so he deserves a ton of credit man, because he's gotten some criticism. This is a team that you could have made a case last year maybe should have.

00:33:12
Speaker 1: Been in the playoff. If they did, who knows, you know, maybe they would have went on a run like this.

00:33:17
Speaker 3: I think they're a much better team this year, in particular on defense and in part because of the additions they made through the portal.

00:33:23
Speaker 1: But this is a team that I look at them.

00:33:26
Speaker 3: And just say they right now, and I don't know if they're the betting odds on favorite to win it, that would be a team I'd be looking at. The only concern I have, and this goes back to, like the two things that I think are very apparent so far in the playoff is the quarterback play. You've got to obviously have a guy who could be a dude in the moments when he needs to and make plays and take care of the football and not become a disaster. I thought Beck did an unbelievable job of his legs, you know, for a guy who's not known as a dual threat quarterback. He took off, he Randy Scramble, He did what he could to get what he could, and he really didn't put the game in Harm's way too much. But that was you know that that style will this team with way Mark Fletcher's running the football right now, the way the old line's playing, that could win them a national championship.

00:34:09
Speaker 2: So if you have to guess the odds national championship, who's gonna win it all? Guess the odds right now, what would it be?

00:34:17
Speaker 1: I think they're probably like plus two hundred.

00:34:23
Speaker 3: I think Indiana's probably the favorite, like minus one fifty plus one thirty five for the Hoosiers.

00:34:29
Speaker 2: Okay, and you've got Oregon in Miami sitting at plus three hundred, so three to one and one three, all right, that's if I was gonna think we're gonna be tight in there too, I'll be curious. And then and then Old misses this wildcard of the way they're playing. I think there's probably just some concern about the coaching situation. But they've got the capability.

00:34:47
Speaker 3: The way that offense can score, man, that is that's something something special.

00:34:50
Speaker 2: They're sitting at plus five fifty, so one hundred bucks will win n five fifty and uh, you know who mean, hey, if you're laying Kiffin, just let them keep rolling, man, keep getting paid. Every time they win, you get you get a little bit of a check.

00:35:01
Speaker 3: So what's what's wild about Miami is think about the fact that they could win a national championship, and by the way, in their home stadium, which would be probably the first ever in college football history, you know, finishing off a season winning a national championship in your stadium, but also before they've won an a CEC championship.

00:35:20
Speaker 6: Think about that. I mean, what's the last team that's done that. I don't Yeah, that's it is the Uh yeah, it's as well as that sounds. They still have not won an ACC championship. And look, I'm not here to go back over what I said before.

00:35:36
Speaker 1: By the way, Like that's what I'm saying.

00:35:38
Speaker 3: Like the fact that the ACCS tie breaking scenario didn't put Miami in that game is bonkers, and that's for another day. But still, the fact that they have the chance of winning a national championship before we get a conference championship is a bit wild.

00:35:52
Speaker 2: Oh man, It's like that that piece of dry toilet paper. By the way, have you ever wiped with a piece of dry toilet paper and wondered, is this as good as a gain?

00:36:00
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00:36:26
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00:36:39
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00:36:48
Speaker 1: Moment of truth. How much did.

00:36:52
Speaker 2: The Ohio State loss on New Year's Eve affect one man in the world of football. Yeah, we'll find out whether or not Albert Breer answers his phone in about ten.

00:37:02
Speaker 1: Minutes from now when we catch up with AB. So there is that.

00:37:05
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00:37:29
Speaker 1: We do it for the NCAA tournament.

00:37:32
Speaker 2: Usually doesn't end up well either, but I took a bold approach, said, you know what, I'm going to go outside the box here, all right. What I'm going to do is I'm going to go Georgia beating Texas Tech, and that'll do it. That's a wrap on my college football playoffs.

00:37:51
Speaker 1: Buddy.

00:37:52
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure I know iut stay Georgia, so I'm out as well.

00:37:56
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know if it's been that's that's a rep. It's just it's gone. So that's that's that's going to do it. Patty, do we have the up? Is there any update on these standings of where anybody's at, because I don't even think LeVar is still in contention.

00:38:11
Speaker 4: So they haven't updated like everybody's points scoring yet. That's still early into this. But I do have sticks sticks picks here if you want to go through it. What he picked for the final yeah, what was sticks picks six picks? Well, he went with his final two in the championship was Oregon versus.

00:38:33
Speaker 1: Georgia, and he took Georgia winning.

00:38:38
Speaker 4: One.

00:38:38
Speaker 1: That's still in the.

00:38:41
Speaker 3: We're both eliminated, so it's not even like you can say anything.

00:38:44
Speaker 4: I had Indiana versus Ohio State with Ohio State losing, so I mean, that's all, folks, but at least got one in there.

00:38:50
Speaker 1: Maybe. I mean, by the way, maybe.

00:38:52
Speaker 2: For what it's worth, one of the teams in my final didn't even score, so that's they're like, that's as bad as it can I mean, there's there's not much nail where she could do there. So yeah, do you have any issue with Dan Lanning scoring a touchdown late?

00:39:08
Speaker 1: No?

00:39:08
Speaker 3: Actually I had more of an issue with in a game versus a good team like Texas Tech. I don't know, he was so adamant about not kicking field goals and trying to go for everything and score touchdowns. Look, maybe he felt like there's something going on there and he has got a better insight than I, but I actually thought there's a few opportunities he probably just should have taken the field goal, especially the way the defense was playing, you know, take the points, you know, kick off, keep them back deep, you know, don't necessarily try to go for it and not get it.

00:39:38
Speaker 1: But it all worked out in the end, so there's no real complaint there.

00:39:41
Speaker 3: But yeah, there probably wasn't a need to necessarily score the touchdown. But hey man, he's he doesn't want to take his foot off the gas pedal, and I can understand that.

00:39:49
Speaker 1: He's trying to get him a little bit of a rhythm, you know, try and get him get him in sync there. And but you know, do you knows.

00:39:55
Speaker 3: Maybe Phil Knight called down because those are two of the most expensive rosters in college football based on time.

00:40:00
Speaker 1: Phil Knight's backing Cody Campbell. I'm not him, me and you for field goals.

00:40:04
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was maybe like, hey, let me tell you something. You take down these Red Raiders and this Cody Campbell character.

00:40:11
Speaker 1: Okay, I did think that it was It was interesting.

00:40:14
Speaker 2: One of the things that I noticed was after the Georgia Ole miss game, like when they were walking out, like however that game was gonna end, you know, and they finally figured it out. But you did see like Kirby Smart seemed like he was genuinely happy for Pee Goulding because I think he probably recognizes they've been put in a crap spot by Lane Kiffen, and it did it did feel and even like Joey maguire was saying, like he's he loves Dan Lanning, He's happy for the program, so he had no issue. But it did feel like those two coaches sort of recognize better team one good for them, but there was no animosity. And especially with the Kirby Smart stuff, I thought was interesting because I think he, like Mike tom that did this in the NFL where he sort of spoke up in defense of Kevin Stefanski when they when they traded Joe Flacco and nobody can figure out why you would do that. It was kind of nice to see coaches have their coaches back and understand you've been put in a difficult spot, and he and Kirby Smart was happy for Pe Golding in that situation. I'll say this about Kirby Smart. He is to me one of the few faces of college football in regards to the influence that he has, the voice that he has, and given his success, you know, being a two time national champion and what he's done you know, being the SEC so far really kind of carrying the flag for them.

00:41:33
Speaker 1: And I think he should speak up more.

00:41:35
Speaker 3: I think what Dan Lanning said and how open he was with some of his thoughts around what's happening right now in college football. It's desperately needed, and Kirby Smart needs to do the same thing, like he needs to stand up to try to find a way of all the all the powerful, you know, minds that be put it together to try to figure out a solution to some what we're dealing with.

00:41:55
Speaker 2: By the way, moment of truth time, we're going to find out whether or not Albert Breer is still wearing it. From the Ohio State loss Ab joins you next here, It's Brady Quinn, It's Jonas Knox. It's a Dan Patrick Show here on a Friday on Fox Sports Radio.