Bradley Beal | Ep 40 | ALL THE SMOKE Full Episode | #StayHome with SHOWTIME Basketball

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Speaker 1: From my high school team. We have five guys make the NBA. We head the County Rocket gets some meta of basketball. Here are those who come before us, upon whose shoulders we stand. It's nothing that you can do to stop the competitive and that's just in the water. Welcome back to a special Quarantine edition. We got a real special guys. What's up with your Brodie with the virtual handshake? I'm gonna tell you something that I never told nobody. I want to out the smoke. Welcome back to another Quarantine episode of all the Smoke. Jack, what's happening? My brother was going on our dead man? Hey, I hope you got to good weather out there, because it's raining down here. That's what stuff is nice out here. I just got this beany u because my hair is fucked up. I don't know what to do with it to day. I didn't have I didn't have time to press it. You feel me. That's differ between me and you. If I had that ship you got on top of your head, I have a pony till some ship right now. I should just be hanging you. Just let us should go whatever, yeah whatever, let that ship hang. Huh. Anyway, man, let's get to him. Man, we got a special guest today. Someone. I'm excited because he's emerged as one of the NBA's best players. Well, we don't ever hear this motherfucker say nothing. We don't ever hear him talk. No, I've never seen no interviews of him, and so I'm really excited to right to get to know more about it because I know his game. I love his game, but I want to get to know him a little better. Man. So everybody, man, Welcome, Bradley Beale, Welcome, little Brotack. What's up man, Thanks for having me, appreciate the time man to be with us. Sir, How is everything man? How are you and the family holding up? You know during this lockdown and uh pandemic we got going on. It's crazy, man, because ship we can't nobody really will do nothing. But for me, it's a blessing because one, I gotta have a gym in my house and I got a weight room. So that's what happens. That's what happens when you're really rich. But go ahead, I gotta I got a little upper hand so as I still get my work in on the constant, and I think it's a blessing. Too, man, because I get to be around my boys all day, every day, being around wife you all day, and you know, we don't get that, you know, during a year ago. So it's definitely I look at it as a blessing and discuss that's something we've definitely talked about. Not realizing like now that you're half time to sit and chill with the kids with that rigor that schedule is like, we never really get that time. And when we do get that time, we're tired of ship, you know what it means. So it's good to be able to just spend time with your kids and your family and really just sit back and enjoy ship. No boom, no boom. You're a big time gamer, and I see you and your girl doing all kinds of TikTok that when you you got need to start challenging couples. Becauld you guys, be on your little TikTok nineteen eighties dance routines, and ship is dope. Even but even with the wardrobe, even with the wardrobe, him and this girl, they do like him and like I think fabbing his girl. They do a great job of putting the coordinating together. Y'all y'all at the top. I think me and my girl, Me and my girl be looking at y'all man trying to think out how how can we get slide into your lane? A little bit say idea, but the choreography actually be me. So I got some moves now rhythm. Yeah, an agreement. So every every three hours of video games. You know what I'm saying. I ain't got nothing else to do, work out and play video games every three hours. I gotta make a TikTok. So that was our agreement on your ship. Then you guys, you guys need to challenge other couples. I think that would be doping like a TikTok dance all yeah, we need Yeah, we might do that. We might need to start compete, but that blowing out the water. I just I just got on call of duty, so I gotta get your game with tag man. They didn't drag me, they didn't drag me in dog, so I got we gotta get all the day. I'm some ship. So he said, he just be on there. You know what I'm saying. There my drill playing my drill better than me. Hey, b I can't. I can't even land the parachute right without getting shot. I'm getting shot for even That's what I'm saying. These kids and little kids, yeah, my little My twins be on their sucking people up. My twins be on their custom and ship like I'll be shooting the show down here. And I walk out to take a break. Obviously here the twins talk reckless. I was like, who, who are you talking something? Dude was talking trash online. Dad like letting them have it. I'm like, they really be getting because I don't. I don't play video games more. But it's serious. I can hear they. Yes, they talked a little bit about fatherhood and about fatherhood and how that's changed your life and outlook. Uh honestly, I think I feel like there's nothing life father and I feel like you have to be a father to really understand that. And coming up on two years my oldest son. I have two boys, Bradley Bradley the second in Braylon and uh so Bradley is coming up on two and uh but when he was born, I feel like it changed my life in so many ways for the better. But it gave me this motivation to where I was living for something bigger than myself. Everything that I was doing in life, it was bigger than me, whether it was business, my mentality, my character, I carry myself, my work ethic how I hoped. It was like every time I stepped on the floor, I'm like, ship. These kids grew up in the day of YouTube and Instagram and Twitter, Like every game that you play is gonna be on TV. So how do you carry yourself? How you interact with your teammates, like, how you interact with fans? Like all that's gonna be visible? So how do you want to portray to your son? Like how do you treat wife? Like all of that ship matters? So when he was born, it was like, man, it was it was an eye opening from me. And honestly, man, I feel like it's it's nothing like it, Like I can drop the ball today and take care of my kids for rest of my life and be cool. So tell me your thoughts on coming back this season. I mean, I know, I know you love giving back to the community. Um, you wanted the community and since award in two thousand and eighteen throughout nineteen, Um, tell me your thoughts on coming back and playing without without having fans that are like how would that feel that's tough. I feel like it's tough. I honestly, I said, we might as well playing the practice facilities if we're gonna do that, like, you know, because it's it's it's gonna have that dead feeling. It's gonna be like a practice and you gotta find that energy, you know, within the team to be able to play. So I think it would be I understand it from a health perspective, like you gotta you gotta protect everybody at all costs, you know, the players for sure first and and you know go from there. But at the same time, I think it's tough, you know, from a business standpoint, even with the owners, like everybody's losing money. Uh, you know, we're uncertain of if we come back, how many games we may play, especially teams who like us, who were in the cusp of ninth who got like four or five games that they're out of, Like do we get those games that do we not get those games? So it's like it's tough, you know. And then we've been sitting out coming up on two months, two and a half months, so you know, that's gonna be tough for a lot of guys to get back into the groove. And it ain't like we can just go from zero to a hunter back onto the floor. So it's a lot of variables, man, But me personally, I hope we get back to open hill. I was I was killing, right, was killing. Yeah, you were in your gu We're gonna get to this later, but you're speaking on it. Tell me what you were in You are playing on another level. Where were you at? Mentally explained this because to me that you're playing the best basketball of your career. He was in his bag. You know, Honestly, my my whole goal was to make the playoffs, and by any means whatever, it looked like that's what I wanted to do. Everybody was like, oh man, he was mad about All Star Like, yeah, it made me. It pissed me off. But at the same time, man, it's like that doesn't define me as a player. That don't make me and I know that ultimate goal at the end of the day is to get this team to the playoffs and try to win the championship. Like that's everybody go like my gear shifted Like a weak minded person to me in that situation would have pouted. I would have said, man, after the NBA f A, everybody after my team. I'm not coming out here to move no more. Like I'm you know, I'm off it. But I just kind of flipped it, man, like it is what it is. Congrats because I got. I got my little brother, Jayson Tatum, I got that was his first one. So I'm kind of the same happy for guys, you know, Donna, I mentioned to trade youngs, you know, the guys who made it their first time, because I was in those shoes two years ago when I first got my first one, you know what I'm saying. So I can't take that that feeling away from the other twenty four guys that deserve it. You know. To me, it was just like get back in the gym, but your ass grind, have that chip on your shoulder. I love it. Talk to us a little bit about you. You just spent to Jayson Tatum. You guys do a lot of giving back. You guys recently just raised almost three hundred thousand dollars for the St. Louis Area Food Bank. You guys both teamed up past last week to do pizzas and I saw you just did something yesterday and breathed bind I missed it, but you also donated computers or something yesterday, if I'm mistaken. So, I have a school here in d C and UH called Ron Brown College Prep. It's a it's a pretty much all black schools, a public school, but it's a it's a private school basically, so it's they dressed private, it's private criteria, um and but it's publicly funded. So these kids getting college prep, you know, education for free. You know, I grew I went to an all white boys school in St. Louis that I had to pay for that joint but it was eighteen grand a year. But luckily I was on the academic scholarship to where I didn't have to do that. So that was my out. And so the last couple of years I was basically trying to explain to them, like the advantage that they have, the opportunity they have in front of them. And it's a three year old school. So this year is the fourth year. This is the first year that they have seniors, and so uh, this past year, I've done tours for them for a couple of HBCUs around the d C area, Howard Morgan Park, Hampton, Uh, I said Morgan Park Morgan State, and uh, just to get them a field of for the college life. You know, they have opportunities right here in front of them. And so granted with the pandemic, they weren't able to finish school, and so I purchased laptops for all the seniors there for them to be able to finish what they senior years so they can graduate. That's amazing, man, That's that's the kind of stuff you don't really get a chance to hear too much about the overall scope of just being able to give back. You know. I think during while we're playing, we're so in the flow of just sports highlights this and that. And then then if it's not that they're highlighting the negative, you know, they never really shine. And and I know you don't do it to get recognition. None of us do what we do to get recognition. But it's good to be recognized because they're always outside of us playing. Their only picture, their painting is the negativity, you know, So I think more more light needs to be shining to the positivity because a lot of people are doing a lot of great things and you're right up there with them. So we definitely appreciate that so the last Dance premier last weekend. Um, you got a chance to see the behind the scenes m J Bulls. I tell people it's a lot like because they didn't have social media back then, and Mike was never someone that really got to open up for the world to see. You know. I think we take for granted these days that someone like you was on social media, Lebron, everyone opens up and you get to see more of our lives. But that ship wasn't like that back in the nineties. So looking at it now, what are your thoughts on being able to see behind the scenes and what you seen so far? You know what's funny, I said, Damn, I feel like Mike sometimes yeah, yeah, yeah, A lot of my can't say that. It was like dam sometimes like I feel you like like when you have Pip out, like it's like having John out vice versas like it's like damn, Like it's tough. You know, you gotta carry that, you gotta carry that night in the night out. And granted, you see the physicality, you see the grind, you see that it was a different brand of basketball back then, and watching it, it's like, man, you have nothing but the utmost respect for him just to see where he was and where he got to and like the amount of time it was and it was like it was the snap of a favor. Like somebody told me the other day he only he averaged thirty every year, but two years, Like I didn't even know that ship. That's crazy. This is my first year average and thirty And I'm like this as hard as hell to don basis. But m was a problem man. It put a lot of things to perspecially just like you said, how how the game was physical back then, and to average thirty two. To keep pushing yourself, to keep finding ways to challenge yourself, you know what I'm saying, to to keep being better with all the things that's the organization to get you against you, your best, your best teammate down. Like with all that, he still was pushing himself and still continued to be great. Bro. A lot of people don't know how hard that is. It's tough. It is so tough. But you you definitely respected. You have no choice better respect. And I think the fact that he's able to put it out their lives because we know how private MJ is, but he blessed us with this. It's like he reaching a lot of people with this. When he's gonna touch a lot of nerves too, y'all gonna learn today, y'all gonna learn what he's saying. But I think it's important we have to realize how special we are to get this kind of information, because, like I said early, he's the one guy, you know what I mean, Kobe did the rest in peace later in his career, open up and kind of let us see the other side. You know, Lebron has been the poster boy for just you know, showing what the what his whole life is like. We never got that with m J. We you know, we never really gotten to hear Mike speak too much. It was always business Mike and owner Mike and all that. So if this ship is dope to just be able to sit back with him with a drink a yak right next to him, you already know. I wish it was a joint, but you already know, like sitting in getting in his bag, like you want to know what this ship was like. I'm gonna tell you exactly what this ship was like. And this ship is amazing, man. I'm excited. This is gonna be dope. I can't wait to see what they say, Well, Rod Rod in Vegas, if they got any footage of him in Vegas, I'm gonna losing. Someone made some cartoon mean yesterday and it was Rod sitting down talking about how he broke his dick three times. But it was cartoon anime. That ship was insane. I'm like, they're really about to get in their ship. You didn't even open it, did you? Jack? I told you, I'm not watching it. I'm not watching it anyway. Early days. Man, you grew up in St. Louis, shoutout St. Louis. Your mom played basketball Kentucky. And you know what was the integral on on you? Growing up in the game, loving the game, critiquing your shot. Talk to us a little bit about that. It's man, it's amazing. Man. And my parents they're both together. I came. I'm coming from a family of five. It's five boys, man, all boys, two older brothers to right in the middle. All boys. And the funny thing is all my brothers were the college for football. How about that? Wow? You the only one and it's sick and I'm the only one. And it's sick because I love football, like football, it's my hard love but it's amazing, man, because my mom put the ball in my hand. She taught me how to shoot. Still to this day, she blowed my phone up. If I have a badass shooting night, you need to get your ass in the gym. You ain't doing what you're supposed to do. But I love it, and it's like it was moment I'll say to this day like she was the toughest coach I ever had, like still to this day, because she's probably the only person whoever made me want to quit the game. I was like, and she pushed me that much. I've never had that, and I respect her so much for that. I love her for it, and it's definitely another reason why I go out there and play the way I do, because it's like she she ain't waste all that time exert her energy into me for nothings. No, No, you got one of the prettiest, purest strokes in the game. So ship, that's because she was on your ass. That's why at the early age Ray Allen clips watch this guy a hand who I love that? Who did you patt in your game? App? I know obviously is one of your favorite players, but who did you patted your game. I always say these three it was Iris and Ray Allen and d Wade. Yeah, I say that because they had it was a mix of all three of them. Like I love the way Ray shot the ball. It was silky smooth, alan Irison could put the ball on the floor, get whatever you wanted. And then d Wade was just a fair score. He could score it on three levels, but mainly he was he was a mid straight, mid range killer. And that's what I loved about him, and the fact that he was undersized at the two, and so that was always my label coming into the league, being under size in my position. So I always looked at the way it's okay, this is what I need to do. Talk to us a little bit about what your recruiting process was like. Obviously all the accolades in Missouri Mr Basketball and and uh, you know the Greater Rade National Player of the Year. What was your recruiting process? Like, it was crazy? So and then my top five were Florida, Kansas, Duke, Ohio State, and and what was the last one, I want to say, Illinois, Illinois yea. So for me, it was hectic. A lot of people don't know I committed the Florida with my sophomore year silently to Coach Donald and nobody knew. But I continue to engage with other schools to go through the process, you know. But I knew where I was going at the end of the day, but it came. But I came out next year my junior year verbally and announced it. So my senior year, um, I'm about to sign. And so literally the night before I'm about to sign, my mom caused me in the room and says, where are you going to Maround. She didn't know, She says, like, I didn't tell my parents. I committed the floor like nobody knew but me and Coach Donald. Right, So she's like, where are you going? I said, Mom, I said, I think I'm going to Florida. She didn't say nothing. So the next day, boom, I'm understand. I got all my hats in front of me, got Florida, Kansas, dude, Ohio State, Illinois. So I'm looking I'm giving my speech and I'm looking at moms and she's like, like, well, you better say the right school. So she wanted me to go to She wanted me to go to Kansas. Kansas is four hours from the same stay close to home, right down the street. But me, I wanted to get the hell away from St. Louis. I wanted to get as far as I could possibly go and be on my own. So I'm understand, I said, I'm going to the University of Florida. She got up, walked out. I didn't say nothing, didn't clap, I didn't talk to her. Living in living in the same house, living in the same house. That's doing in the same house. So how did you guys finally break the ice and start talking again? And honestly took my dad and my two older brothers to kind of really break it down to her to get her to understand, because she never missed any of my games from grade school all the way through high school. She was at every single game, and so for me to go eighteen hours away was like a slap in the face to her. Like even if I went to Duke like that was fourteen and she was like, damn, that's too far. So I'm like, Kansas, cold as hell, you know, it's four I was away. It's too close, I said, I just I just can't do it. And so it just eventually came to the point my older brothers, one with the Northern Illinois the other one to Alabama State. So once five hours away, once twelve I was away, and so I'm like, Mom, you gotta you gotta let you gotta let the you gotta let the let the bird fly. You gotta let me go. So enough ship. She she let me go, and the rest was isty, what was your experience? And go ahead, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead. When I was this is the story I always try to tell my my a U kids, because I got a AU team now. So when I went to college, one thing I always try to tell my mom said, once I go to school, you ain't the coach no more right. She calls Billy Donaldan why my son ain't getting the ball? And man hung that phone up so fast on us and called me in the office that, man, I don't ever have your mom called up. Wow, Mama's don't play though, man, Yeah, you know wrong. Man, I'm not even I'm not even mad at it. You ain't even man loved it. I loved it, but I was like, damn the fact that he hung up on her. I said, Moms, she never had that, she never had a coach disrespect her Lord like felt like that was disrespect like, but he was like, no, I got this stays to St. Louis. I got him. I got him. But you definitely love it for But that was that was a crazy like yesterday, moms. What was your experience like in Florida? Like, I know, I know you recently visited, went back and we went visit with Joe Kiemno and al Halten, But what was your experience like in Florida? It was short. I was only there for a year, but I was a nerd. That's what a lot of people don't know. Uh. I was smart to say my major was biology premit, so I was on the way to be a doctor. Like that was that was my bird. Yeah, that's what That's a lot of people don't know. I was at four point though. That was I was. I was a geek, that was But it was it was short, man, it was short. We the hoops season was great. I was definitely on the fence about coming back for my sophomore year, but coach Donovan eventually just kind of gave me the kick out. He was like, he said, you have a chance to be top three in the draft. He was like, I can't. I can't hold you back from that kept real, which he kept, he kept real. And that's why that's why I since day one. Oh, that's why chosen because he told me from day one, he said, you're not gonna he said, I don't guarantee you're gonna start. I don't guarantee you a lot of playing time. I don't guarantee you the ball. He's like, but I do guarantee that you will work hard, be a better man, and get better every day. And I said, that's where I want to go. M hm. I mean you went there for sec freshman of the year average nearly fifteen, went to the lead it, and then it was time to take your talents to the league. Huh, trying to get about it. There, it's time ago, it's time to go. What are your thoughts on one and done? You know we've seen recently Jayden Green jumped to the G League, Isaiah Todd jumped to the G League. Um, you know the NBA. I'm sure within the next few years is gonna open it back up so guys can jump straight to the NBA. But how important you feel like college that when your college was to your success and being drafted number three in the game. It's tough, bro, because I feel like if you're talented enough and the league knows it and you know, the scouts north and then you should go um. You know, especially with the way the n C Double A is now, like I feel like they're holding a lot of kids back, you know, um. And then on top of that, a lot of kids basically go to a lot of them are wanting done and so college. In a way, I feel like it was beneficial for me. But at the same time, I do think there's been official game in the G League. You know, you get you get the experience, you get the NBA experience, you know, you get coached under that type of that type of chemistry atmosphere, and then on top of that, you get a little change in your pocket with that. Granted you ain't getting millions in the G League, but it's enough to enough to enough for a kid who nineteen years old at that time, I think, and go either way. I really hope at the end of the day, the NBA kind of grab hold of the ultimate decision, um, because I think the the n C Double A kind of is just a little it's a little too corrupt for me. And uh and the college coaches at that too. You know, it's like, what is your like, what is your game like? What is your what are your motives with the kids? You know what I'm saying, a lot of them more money in they pocket, a lot of them want to keep your kids for four years and you know, to get that prestige of the school or whatever. But it's like, what is what are the real motives behind the coaches there versus you know, in the league, it's it's nothing but pure development. You know, it's it's either you get better or you don't have no job. Period. Yeah, you eat, you eat what you kill. You recently joke with Tatum on r G Live last week about you know this, this very conversation. He said he still might have gone the duke, and you made a joke like they must have been paying you know, they must have been paying you six undergrad. You guys went back and forth on that talk to us a little bit about that. That's what's funny. That's just Jason, my brother man. I don't think they gave him a dollar here. He not like that, He wouldn't he. I don't think they game a dollar. His mom wouldn't his mom, Damn sure, ain't going forward. So uh, it's all It's all love and I love everybody. A duke to coach K know what it is almost I know he's still he tells me to this day, he's still mad at me for not going. So it's it's number love with them. But it happens. You know, we see it, We see it out there, so yeah, it is what it is. It is. But to me, I just think that the NT double A is almost driving kids away with their outdated policies, you know what I mean, Like you don't make it beneficial at all to really come to college. You know, like you said that the longer you stay in college these days, you know that, the lower your draft stock drops. So you know, it's almost like with their old, outdated rules, I think college is going to be a thing of the past for the top players here on out. Yeah, it has to be. That's why the league gotta grab hold of it because just like you said, as young as you know, the league looks at younger guys every year, every year. And there's something I always try to tell my au kids. Man, every you know, the draft is thirty guys guaranteed, you know, and you know you got another thirty who could possibly make the team. So and then on top of there's only four hundred and fifty of us total in the league, you know, so calculate how many guys are just shifting and in and out of the league every year, you know, So on top of the guys who are hungry coming up from the league, on top of for the guys who have been pros some fifteen sixteen overseas, like, it's it's a lot, man, And that's why it's a true grind. You gotta respect everybody in the league, respect every opponent, and really grinded out. Two thousand twelve, your drafted number three, A d goes one, you go three, Damn Lillard goes six, uh Drumming goes nine, Draymond Green goes thirty five. You got any memorable moments of you know, the draft or your rookie orientation, any of that kind of stuff. My draft night was crazy. For one, it was my birthday, so that was the best day on birthday ever. Came a millionaire on your birthdays, just her nineteen, So that was boom. That was That was love for me. And then on top of that, the whole night, I kind of had a feeling I was either going to go two or three. We knew A D was going one, so I didn't knew I was going to Charlotte at Washington and so but when we're sitting in the draft room, sure enough, my agent tapping me, was like, it's possible you might go to Okay, seem that's that's it. I said, Damn, how am I gonna go there? I ain't even work out for Okay. See, I only worked out for three teams, you know, So I'm like Washington, Cleveland and uh and Charlotte. I'm like, it's hard and still it's when hard. That's when Harden was still in Okay. See. So the deal was to trade James to Washington, right, Okay, see gets the third pick. No, it was either the second or third pick. They were going to trade up to two or three. Get me trade James to Washington for you, then for me, and then that's when like that it could have been in there, okay see with Katie and Russell, I mean obviously hardness who was hard? But yeah, a dead spot up shoof. That would have been fun. That would have been crazy. I love hearing stories like that because nobody knows that kind of ship, you know, I mean nobody knows that you were im was traded for Harden on draft deck. That was like, that was last minute decision. Really, it was almost it was almost done. Yeah, what was your welcome to the What was your welcome to the NBA moment? Was it that or was it something else? Hell? No, it was my first exhibition game. It was funny because my first expibially game was in Kansas City, so I had my family. I'm at the career basically, and it was against the Miami Heat Lebron d Wade and Damn Chris bosch Off winning the championship. Nice. Man, I'm growing up watching these cats, you know. So I'm a Lebron family d Wade fan. I'm a I'm like, damn, come out here with these guys. Let me see what this boom dum dum dum pump fact file. I'm like, man, they got every vet move, welcome book, welcome I said, yeah, I got when to go for show. But outside of that, after that, being your first taste in the preseason, once the season hit, what was like your one moment, like, okay, shot, I'm here now. Mm hmmm. It was tough because I don't I don't remember ship from my rookie year because it was that bad. Like we were bad. It was. It was horrible. We were bad. Like John didn't play. I knew it, and I knew John was out like the first thirty games him and name. So I was like, I remember, I was thrown into the fire. So I was pretty much a deer in the head likes and I just the only thing I knew was that I had good vets. I had my O G. Sampasll with me and he was and he was basically molding me. So it was. It was rough. It was rough. My rookie year was tough. Shout out to saying my funk was saying, it's a good dude. Right. A lot of people don't know that you and John were close before you even got drafted. Tell us that that relationship developed. So John. I knew John in high school. Uh, he was in college about to get about it or we wanted doing. Uh. So we basically met my last year playing a U ball in my junior year and uh he came out to l A where we were playing and watch me play watch other guys playing here. We exchanged numbers and we've been cool since then, and it was amazing. Two years later here I am Bloom drafted to the Washington Wizards, and so it was I mean, we just kind of took off from there. He was always been a big brother figure to me, and you know, we've it's been the same since then. You know, we've just constantly grown, we've both matured, and you know, it's it's that's my big brother man still to this day. I mean, we all we all know, y'all relationship, you know, and we know how to owe the media try to twist things on the outside looking in. But tell me, tell me your thoughts on the media. What you think was the worst bullshit? Had a big bullshit headline that he said about you and uh you and John Wall. The one that everybody keeps saying is that we don't like each other. M hmmm. I think that's the one that that pissed both of us off because for so long we were both young and immature that we let the media stirred up to where it kind of both affected us like it affected me. I was like, well, damn it is he really thinking like that, and it's like he's like, damn, would just be really feel like that? And so it was like a slight it was like a silent tension. It was like but then it came to a punch. It was like, well, let's nip this ship in the book, like because like we never had any beef. It was nothing that he did that provoked me or that I didn't like and vice versas. So it was like we really just broke. We just had a We just had a man of manners, like, bro, you got a problem with me. You know, you got a problem with me? You know. So it is what it is like lead the media, like let the mothers do what they do, like leave it, leave that out there. And so we're gonna rock the way we rocked. And we just both understood that hill. We both needed each other to grow, you we both needed each other to win and you know, help this organization be what it needs to be. Said the same thing we had him on the show. He was like, man, you know that's my boy. Like they say that bothered him too, because he's like there's nobody that he would want to go to wall with more than You's nobody that he wanted to be on the outside him more than you, and he hate what people on the outside try to twist that. But he said, he said, the same as you said. Y'all know your relationship and that's all that really matters. So you know, I said, we already knew that from the outside looking in. I think what people get misconstrued to is the fact that we both like kind of alpha dogs and so like, like we both want to take to the shie at the end of the game. Like that's just that's just who we are. Like, and guess what, I wouldn't want nobody else to take it but him if I'm not taking it so right, that's just you know, that's just that's just our mindset. And I feel like we both understood that, and we used that to fuel each other, like like in a confident way to where it's like, man, it's gonna be, it's gonna be, It's gonna be so beautiful when you come back, because now I'm in the space and mentally and my game is where it wasn't like when he was at his all star level, Like it's I'm excited for it for sure. Well that's why, you know, I think myself and Jack were so critical on outside media because we are part of the media now technically, but they don't realize and fans don't realize how powerful fake bullshit is, you know what I mean, And because we know chemistry is the most important thing. And like you said, I think it was amazing you touched on that there was a silent tension like the bullshit had you guys question each other when you guys are funk with each other from the whole time, you know what I mean. So that's why I'm so critical when I see bullshit. I'm an call bullshit. Jack is the same way, because like, don't start that bullshit because you in there trying to funk a whole locker room pup off off something that's not even true, right, And we've had that plenty of times, tis times to count, straight up. He told us a story about how, you know, when his mom passed, you drove with it four hours down to you, you know, out of the blue. He didn't ask you too, you just did out of the kindness of your heart, you know what I mean. He said that really struck a accord, and he really knew how down you were for him. So when you hear the integral details that you give us that he gives us, and then here the narrative that they're trying to push. Man, it botherses the funk out a lot of people who really know what's going on, as they ever told you that because he made it clear to us like that meant the world to him, Brod for that he hasn't and a lot of other people have definitely told me, like the people around him have told me the impact that he that has had on him. And and it's it's amazing, bro because I've never seen that side of him, and God forbid I ever see that side of him again, like still to this day, Like I don't. I don't know how he do it. You know, his pops passed when he was younger. You know, he was basically the man in the house when he was a kid on till now and now his best friend is gonna. And when that happened, it was crazy because we were actually flying to Charlotte to play Charlotte that he said, and they live in Raleigh, and as soon as we landed, bro, he got the news and it was like they were blowing my phone up, like wherever you at wet. You gotta go find him. We don't know what he's not answering. I'm like, damn, okay, boom, where you at, bro I'm in the room. I go in the room. It's just man, it's ship everywhere. Like it looked like a tornado hit the room. And I could do number hug him and just hold him and just just just keep them cool. Because Dog lost his best friend. Man, like I cann'tly imagine. I said, Man, after this game tomorrow, right, I'm gonna go ride down with you, like she was in the hospital of the night. I went down there, We rode down, stayed the night, came back up the next day and played. But that I know Dog was hurt. Man, I'm happy. I I honestly don't think anybody else being there with it help. Right. We had a similar situation. That's how Jack. You know, Jack and I were already teammates when it happened with my mom. My mom died and Jack was the first one to pull up on me and like it it's something. It tripped me out because the story was so similar to how you were there for him, and at the same where the reason why Jack and I were more than teammates, more than friends, like we're brothers for that moment, you know what I mean. Like, like you said, there's no one else that could have feeled that boyd at that time beside you and besides Jack, you know what I mean. So I mean for myself and you know John's already thank you guys, But that ship is tough, man. Obviously, losing your mom, losing your best friend is nothing you wish on nobody. But when there was someone there to really hold you down, that really cared and it's genuine like it, it hits different. So we definitely appreciate that, man, no doubt. So so, uh, you agreed to a two year extension uh in in in October um and to to kind of keep your you know, your freedom, your destiny, your control in your own hands. Speak to us a little bit about how you approach your your your extension and then you're thinking on that. I came down to damn that the deadline of my decision, um, because I'm I'm anna. I've kind of played Devil's advocate. Like the whole year it was I'm wearing pros and cons of you know, stand or leaving, you know, signing and not signing, you know, do I wait and try to sign this summer, or do I wait and trying to get traded? Like do I wait and you know, play my contract out? And so I had a bunch of options. And for me it was I secured, what two more years of I have two more years here? So well three And so for me it was like that puts me to me, I don't think I'm gonna hit my problem into them with thirty and so I feel like that at the end of this extension, it puts me right there. And so it kind of puts me in the prime time of my basketball and so it leaves me it still gives me the flexibility with also giving my respects and loyalty to the organization the drafted me. So I'm still giving you all an opportunity here to make it work with John, to make it work with everybody, you know. So here we go. We got a couple more years, and granted I think my extension is the length of John's contract as well. So you know, we got this is this is the time we got. So you know, we're gonna see what we can do, and you know we're gonna make it work. You spoke on it though you've reached you know, super not supers used stuperstar status with who you know, you're one of the best guards in the game, hands down, and like you said, your game has, you know, really developed. When John went down almost how it was forced to you know, I mean, like you said, you you felt like he was an MJ. You know, when he lost Pip and vice versa. Now with it coming him coming back and we talked to him and how excited he is. He says his explosion is back. He said, he's really ready to put on the show. A lot of people said, you guys can't coexist like like like you mentioned earlier, because you guys are to Alpha's you know, you guys both need the ball in your hands. What do you say to all those people now that your game is at an all star level. Obviously he's coming back from a off injury, but he's going to get back to that level. What do you think that you know, obviously the process of that is going to be Like, I think it's gonna be smooth, and I think it would be easy because one we both are mature, like mentally, I feel like me to three years ago, and like watching it. It's funny because there's a team right now. We have a young team, and so right now during the quarantine, we meet every week and watch our playoff series from a few years ago just to get just to get guy some experience and learn, just to see the the great and grind of it, just to see the adjustments made and things like that on the fly. And so who leads that, not to cut you off? Who leads that you lead that? No, our team does. So our coaches, I believe our player development coaches put it together. But he definitely got John and os permission. So basically we hop around from zoom to zoom and uh and give input on the series. So uh, it's amazing to watch. And I hate watching it because I'm like, I am fucking trash. I don't we all got that. I'm watching it, I'm like, why are you hesitating on your shots? Why you ain't shooting? Why you ain't passed right there? Why you ain't understands? Like, it's just like, man, that dude three or four years ago, it's not who are like, it's not me today? And I know that for sure, and I just know that looking at John at his level that he was playing that and I know the level that which he can come back and be at it. Two on top of where I've grown, I think it's gonna be a picture perfect obviously. Yeah, I love when you say you're a completely different player when I don't think what the outside fan understands is obviously you your your skill. Love us grown, But more it's mentally. It's mentally understanding the game. People don't understand like you coming too the game. You you know you could do your thing like inside right now is doing this thing I say, you don't learn how to play NBA basketball to like your Some maybe people like third year, but fourth, fifth, six years when you really got a mental understanding, like okay, my my my athleticism has improved, my physical skills improved, but the most important thing that has improved is my mindset in my approach. Talk to us a little bit about that. I feel like that was the biggest adjustment I made in year five and six from when I signed my extension and year five. My jump from year six to year seven was when I was with an all start year six. So you know you're saying, yeah, you're six, So for me, it was that whole summer was change your mental like be a killer, be a dog, like go be who you were in high school and college, like don't be so passive, and like, you know, make your make you make your statement, like go be you. And so in a lot I tell every I tell people all the time like, honestly, yes, I work on my game, but I'm confident as ill like I honestly feel like nobody can guard me. I feel like you can't be I feel like I can shut you down, like I have that unlike the utmost confidence in myself, And so feel like that carries my game to a whole another level because if I feel like I can do it, I'm gonna go out there and do it. What has it been like stepping into the leader role now? I'm assuming John was the leader before. I don't want to miss speak because I wasn't in that locker room. But you're definitely since him going down. You know, you said he was your big brother, So I figured that, what has it been like for you to step up and take and take a more vocal role in that locker room. It's not easy. It's not easy. I would say we both had had that that footprint. You know, granted he's the head of the snake, being the point guard, uh, being our franchise guy, like he's he is our vocal leader, and uh, it was tough. Not half of him basically a year and a half. He missed a little bit of the year before too, And so with that, it was like I understood how difficult his job was of playing point guard and having to get guys the ball, and having to tell guys where to go, and how to encourage his teammates when shots are falling, you know, and and how to keep guys engaged in the game, how to keep guys you know who rookies who go back and forth to the G League, and how to keep them engaged, keep them confident, you know, when their opportunities might not be in front of them. So it's it's a lot to juggle. It's a lot to balance, and I feel like the biggest thing for me is being able to listen, being able to accept criticism back, and understanding who you're talking to, how you're talking to them, how they like to be talked to. But it's it was, it was a lot, and it's a lot for one person to really to really balance by himself. But it's definitely helpful that we have a group of guys who are willing to learn and uh and who want to win and work hard, like you can't beat that. I think you hit on a great point. I remember Matthew Johnson told me one time. Uh, you know, you can't talk and treat everyone in the same way. You know, you gotta know your players. You know, to be a leader, you have to understand how to talk, how to speak and to everyone cause everyone is different, how to be able to push button. So now that you have that fool like, you're that guy right now. So when joh It comes back and you said it's a tough job for one person to do, you know what I mean. So now it's gonna be a much more calming presence in the locker room now because you know what it's like to be that head A one leader, and you're getting another A one leader back. So now you guys can really balance off each other and really take control of that locker room. I think that's gonna be special. Yeah, it'd be great. I think at the end of the day, it got me out of my comfort zone and forced me to be kind of more vocal, kind of be firm because I'm more of a laid back, like I'll come put you to the side every now and then unless i'm really piste off, and then I'll get on you. But John's the opposite. John W. Barker is your ass and and and talk to you afterwards like and you know, and and so I feel like that yang and yang between us is what we need. Like, you know, you're gonna have balance of what you need to be. You know, it's a good balance. You're gonna have that time what you need to be chewed out, and you're gonna have the time what you need to be paid on the back. But I think having having both of those are essential, you know, and being able to accept both is essential to what was happened between you and you you come into where you're the leader of the team. Now it's obviously worked. You have it thirty points now for for for for rebound, six assists. I think putting you in that role it's been beneficial for you because not only you already had the confidence, but being this role now it's not it's not just showed everybody that you can play, but it's showing the guys on your team. Okay, now, now when John get back, we can come into our own. Now we've got our two stars that can take us to the next level. How you feel now that and what and what really snapped to you to from going to the season you had last year to now averaging thirty points. So the answer the last one what snapped for me is I asked my trainer, I work out with Drew Hamlen. I asked Drew about three summers ago, I said, do you think I got average thirty in the league? And we sat there and we were like, with where my game was. It was like, it's possible, but it's a it's a lot of stuff that you gotta do better and add to your game in order for you to do it. And so for me, it was shooting more threes, shooting off the dribble more after three, and get into the free throw line, and so seeing all them things, and basically over the last course of the last three years, that's all I've been asking my game. It's been threes, get into the line, finishing, making my damn free throws, and and just constantly growing. And then before I knew it, I was at thirty and it was, and it didn't feel like it was a stringent. And then it didn't feel didn't feel strenuous every night like it felt like in Rhythm thirties, Like I didn't have to go out and be forceful and back o man, I got a force and go get third. Yeah, I got everything in rhythm like it was just an actually flow for me to go get. It's in your package, it's the full package. That's dope, man. It's been beautiful to see. Like I said, I I caught you, you know, going towards the end of my career, Jack, same thing we caught you toward the end. But to see your steady like you're someone who you could see the steady improvement, steady improvement to where you are now, you know, And it's obviously hats off to your hard worker effort, your your mental approach, to to your trainer, but it's it's beautiful to see because you're you're a perfect picture of you know, steady growth and becoming the start you've become today. So I think that's dope to see and dope to watch as a fan. Man, I have to. I have to because I look at James Harden, I look at Dame, I look at Clay, I look at I look at everybody to play my position, and it's like they're getting better every year. They're adding something to their game, and it's either you get with the program or you get left behind facts period. You know what I'm saying. And I feel like I'm gonna lead. I feel like I can compete. I feel like I'm one of those guys. And but you can't talk it. You gotta you gotta do it, and it can't be spurts of it. It's got to be on a consistent basis or the consistent basis with efficiency. And so that's that's been my drive over the last few years and just been especially this year. It's just been really focused in on how I play, what I'm doing, and honestly, I'm not an analytical guy, so I say, after analytics and just go yeah, as you should. Last February, you became the first player since Kobe in two thousand and seven to have fifty point games back to back days. You scored a hundred and four points. Excuse me, a hundred eight points in twenty four. Tell me what that was like, because that's incredible. That's incredible. To even have to say, right, that's but you know what's crazy. I remember I hear all y'all. You know, I hear all the O g s talk all the time. Stack, Man, I hear all y'all talk. And then I heard T Mac talking te Max said Bill should have been had a fifty point game right now, and I was, man, hey, MC been taking a lot of jabs at me in my career. Man, I was like, damn Mac. And so I was like, okay, say no more. And sure enough, I just knew I was due for fifty piece. I was due for one. I would have nice, I don't have forty seven, forty six, forty eight, And I'm like, damn, it's two free throws. That's another jump. And it's like I just started getting hungry. And then when I was on the CUSP, granted, the only thing I hate about the fifty point is we lost both games, lost both of them. Joints really don't hold weight. But like I was in the zone that, man, I don't I really can't even explain it. Fellis like fifty like that, I just went, you gotta explain it to us because we don't know, Yeah, we don't know nothing. About fifty point, So you gotta explain. I ain't touched, says high school. So I don't know what that feeling like. I ain't never going in my life. It was just being, like I said before, having that mental confidence myself of being the best player on the floor, being confident in my game. It was one quote that Michael Jordan's said, they're resignated with me throughout the year or two. He said, I don't fear anybody because I trust my work that I put the work in. Like I put the work. I put the work in like on a daily basis, I see myself. I know how hard I worked, I know how good I am. Like, what do you what do you to fear? What is theres nothing? Absolutely nothing? Tell me is this urban legendar? Is that true? Did you get drug tested after those after you went back to back fifties? Yeah? I did, And they have to call them random drug tests. Get the league. I love, y'all, man, but come on, mans, we know these tests and random man, y'all, y'all y'a targeting people? Man? Straight? Uh, if Jack dropped back to back fifty points, you better believe come testing. I'm gonna tell you what you're gonna finding that in that p to a whole lot of trees. I love it. I didn't know. I didn't know if that was because I didn't know if you actually said it. But that's dope. No, yeah, he not the first though. Some other guys on the test us after games now crazy. Yeah, I heard that insane right after the game. You got thirty minutes here we need that. I just sweated athing out. I just yeah, that was crazy. Let me tell you, Brad, when we was in there smoking and that ship had to happen, like having to come up clean on the spot when you know you smoked before the game ain't easy. But I did it. He's a magician, bro, Just just just know that he's a magician. Yeah. I used to get out two thou eighteen and two thousand nineteen All Star, right, but you got snubbed you and you were you were real vocal by it. I mean snub snub just an understatement. You should have made it a lot before a lot of those guys, but you were a real vocal about it, and I would and I would be too. I feel like I missed a couple of All Star games because of nonsense. But you just flat out missed it off. Hate tell me your thoughts about that, Joe, don't know why that true. Granted we weren't We weren't winning games, so I would feel like that's the only thing that you can really plan on me, Like, but what is the All Star Game? Like stars? You know, like it was my perspective of it. It was like, what is the All Star Game? What is this all NBA team? Like? What are those accolades? Like those all individual accolades, those aren't team based acculades. And so yeah, I felt I felt disrespected. You know, I felt beyond disrespected, you know, because granted, we know the fans are gonna do what they do. You know, fans don't they got their their voting percentages. We love the fans, they're going to vote the way they vote, but the media and the coaches, like I felt like that was beyond disrespectful and a lot of the way I was playing to a lot of them. Damn coaches, because all the starters are going to be off the fans. We ain't getting more votes in honest, I know that when I ain't even looking for them votes. But I think as as the coaches, I think we I think y'all shall know because I'm kicking your ass every night, so exactly like I feel like in that regard, Like, yeah, I feel like I should be respected, and especially when the players voted me to start in the game. That's what I had me mind blown, Like the players voted me to start in the game, and I don't even make the game. But I don't make no sense that you know that. Let you know, they got a whole bunch of people making those decisions and making those votes, control of those votes that never played basketball. They got kicked off their baseball team, so now they want to come vote on basketball and ship Like they're like, I hate that ship because it don't make no sense. How could the players? How could the players who play the goddamn game vote you as a starter, but you don't. I don't make no sense. I'm first team of common sense, Matt. I'm first team on common sense. I didn't make no star games, but I'm first team all common sense. You know what I'm saying. That ship didn't make no sense at all. Thought zero zero zero. You're trying to wrap my head around it. I don't get it, but hey, I'm gonna keep working, keep working. So you have a classic meme now over four million views from a fan walking to the tunnel that said you suck and the motherfucking face you made to that fan like all you wanted, but you just wanted my attention. Just say, what's up, Brad? Is something that you suck in the face you made talk to us about that ship. It was funny, dog, because you know how hard it is playing Denver. You know you'd be up to thirty seconds. So we won the game, and we was hyped as ill, and so I had about thirty five and so I'm running back into the locker room. Geek. All of a sudden, I'm slapping hands Bill, you suck. Come on, man, you serious? I said, you just watched the same game I just watched. Ain't the way you can believe that. I ain't what you can believe that you don't believe that ship. That's what fans will say anything just to get somebody's attention, know it. God damn well, they don't believe. I mean me and Jack, and you know they didn't throw a motherfucking poster at Jack's face, and you tadder at one time we was the playoffs that Jack got arrested for some ship and they had Jack and the motherfucking jail outfit just to you know, obviously just to get just to get his attention. But I think that kind of stuff, Like I tell people when I played, like I enjoyed interacting with the fans and even while we play, because it just makes it ship so much more special. I mean that that fan is gonna remember that ship for the rest of his life. You know, Jack is cool with the dude that made the sign, you know, ship thirteen years ago. Those are the kind of experiences that make our game so dope because it's it's other sports don't really get a chance to do that. Yeah, a lot of people, a lot of people don't know. It's a lot of these fans be feeling a lot of these streaks. Guys be going on on the when they'd be getting hot. So talking talking to players like that pits players often they start going on the little streak and they pointed to but like, it's your fault, your your team just got That's fine, it's your fault. What's the craziest what's the craziest road crowd? You feel like you've played, uh in the arena craziest travel are like hectic fans or both if there's both. We all know Utah hectic like they just man, you got some stories about Utah. Yeah about Yeah, I don't know if it's like that. Ain't no place like Hill. Well, I mean, one thing about Utah is not only okay. One one, you have the fans that just someone racist or something, just die hard Utah fans. But then you can't breathe it a motherfucker the first minute, the first quarter. That's another thing. You gotta talk trash. You gotta hear them talk trash. Then you're trying to get in shape in the first quarter because you can't breathe. Right there, it's a double whammy double Why step back, and you got remember to lick your lips because I remember used to play with them thisies. She used to look like how the I said, how the fund did Jack sneak a powder? Done it in on the court? Cotton mouth and the hydra. He used to be cotting out first quarter of cotton. My mouth drives, yeah, dog, all them switches, all the switches though, the mother said the mouthpiece used to be stuck to the side of his lip like yo, bro just go so, have someone sprayed some water somewhere in this area or licked them up that Jackie used to go through it up there? Boy, that was your favorite, Like, hey, that was your favorite line? What was thing? Just walked by him? I just walked by him, victim bitches lick them somewhere on the court. Hey, Jack licked them ditches because that motherfucker's list would get so dry during it. I'm thinking, like with y'all, TV, I don't want people talking about my man like that. So I could break up any kind of hectic situation with Jack when I tell Jack Jack just licked them bitches real quick. Any any favorite playoff memories up to this point. You guys have some with you know, with Paul hitting game winners and against the Southeast, a gainst the Raptors calves. Anything that really stands out to you. The whole Boston series. We need to call the TV today and just tell him to play the whole damn series. That was a great series. Man. We had I see on that team this year, and so that's all we were talking about, just that series and just how crazy it was. He gave us fifty games too. That was right after right after his sister passed, Like, yeah, that was that was a tough time too, that was tough. He got out there and got it. He got out there and got it done. I tell me the difference between Paul as a teammate and playing against him. Man, when I first played against Pete Peers, he was in Brooklyn, I thought Paul was the most arrogant asshole I've ever basketball, the most talk ridiculous to you. I'm at the free throw line, he on the bench standing up. I don't see it. I don't know why they dressed. You know, I don't see it. I'm me and free throw. Look the fuck I knocked down my shots. Boom boom finished the game. I knew we played them. Two weeks later, I dunked his ass. I remember, he's okay, okay, it isn't enough. The next year he was on that team, and then he was the most amazing teammate, the best, And I was like, damn, Like that's a true sign of like a winner. Like the guys he with you're rocking with. You don't on the other team who you are, but give him fuming with my guys who we got and I respected and watching them watching them night in the night out. Still I don't even remember where a year it was, from sixteen whatever, first one in the gym, last one I leave. Still doing his routines every day is band work, he lifted, He's still doing everything every single day like it was clock. They don't realize how shout out pp Man. People don't realize how good he was. Hey talked to us a little bit about the Hall of Fame class going in. Obviously Kobe, like we said, rest in peace, Timmy kg All could be the the greatest Hall of Fame inductee class we've seen. Do you have any personal stories but any any any three of those guys, any one of them, one one. You can't argue none of them. And it's asked me if it comes out of your mouth otherwise you know. Um. It was the same with KG because KG was on the Brooklyn team and so he was talking crazy right along way Paul, so I got some of that action too. I got some of that actions from him too, but I was I was more so more I was always cool knowing who KG was because Sam always told me about him when I was younger in the league. When Sam we used to play with him in Minnesota, then with the Boston and played it was like he used to tell me everything about how he carried himself as a pro off the floor, Like just just everything about him was just great. And the fact that he was a dog. I feel like him and Dunking the best two best power forwards probably ever play like you can't argue that. I think it's amazing that they both get to get in there at the same time. That's that's dope to see. They came in together. And Sam Duncan is always a damn one thing. I remember that shout off to glass. I never clockwork. Clockworks still jab jab jump off the glass. That's whatever you needed. Hey, I was watching NBA TV yesterday. I happened to see it and it was when I was with the Clippers game seven. He was thirty six years old. We had not they had won the championship year before. We locked him out in the first round. But Timmy was going to work. But you could tell he was at the end because you know how when you get older, Jack, you know, like when you take contact, you're falling all the time, you know what I mean, Like just you know, you fall out a lot more Timmy was killing, but that motherucker probably hit the ground about thirteen times in that game, but he was still killing. I think he was thirty six or thirty seven. We got lucky and beat there. Not luck we ended up beating him, but it was amazing to see just he was still him until the very end. It was beautiful. And I say that I say that for Kobe. I say Kobe was one of still one of the hardest guys I've ever had to car late in his career, no question, because he remember when I played him, he shot the ball about forty damn times. But it was amazing just to see, like his craft, that's the same song, like he still had he still had the footwork, his pump, fake work. Look look how many points he scored his last game. I mean, that's that's a lot right there. He had a ratchet, I tell you along That's that's why I tell peoplehen they asked me who the hardest for me to guard was him? Because like you said, it was the footwork, it was the skill work he had. And then you're knowing that when he takes that one or two dribbles to the baseline, right, he's gonna shot fake you, but you still fucking jump because he'll shot fake you seven times because he's not gonna pass, you know what I mean. Like if he gets in that move, he'll shot fake you until you jump and foul him. And it was just like, God, damn cold. That is crazy, bro, you know it's crazy. Have you heard him? I heard him? You heard him hiss before? Huh? Yeah, that's that's when you have the ball. So crazy. Yeah. So it's my first game playing against him. He's on the wing. I think I want to say Sasha had the ball all of a sudden, All of a sudden, it is said, all right, that's and all of a sudden the balls in his hand. I said, oh my god, that's all you gotta do to get the ball. Yo. It don't matter how loud the arena is. Your mama noise that I'm trying to tell you. Don't matter how loud the arena is, you're gonna hear that motherfucking hissing. The ball better be in his hands and like the next three or five seconds and if you have if you have the nerve, if you have the nerve to shoot and miss with after he hisses, go back on film and just watch Cooke's face. If if that motherfucker hisses and you take a shot and miss, he might look at you crazy if you make that bitch. But if you miss, I'm if looks he killed boy, you'd be struck dead on the court. That used to crack me up? Man. Uh. Top five duos of all time. Don't be afraid to throw you in John in there if you think duo's um hmmm, I like um. I like Penny and Shock, of course, how can you doe? I like Penny Shack, Kobe Shack. I don't know if you used I don't know if you used Shack twice, you can't. You can. Yeah, he's that motherfucking good. That's the other stage. Yeah uh yeah, m hmm. Let me see. Yeah, that's what that's too. I like I like I like the I like the I'm a old I'm an old head almost so I like to watch. I'm trying to think it's some old heads duds. I like it. I like du Mars and Thomas mm hmm. People don't remember that GP and Camp mm hmmm. Stock him alone, Stock alone, It's a lot, I would say, Mike Pierre, Kobe Shack, t mac I mean not too mad. Penny Tenures in shack. Yeah, there's d way Lebron, there's Stephie Clay, There's Katie and Russ. There's Katie and Staff. There's do what was out there? Damn wait? And then when you put it like that, there's a lot. There's that ship was fire and ice, fire and ice. That's you got a seven foot out they're doing the same thing. There's six m three people sleep on that. Tim Duncan and David Robinson forgot about call or or Tony and Tim ship. No no, no, no, no, no, no no, because you don't like to do that. One of the best to no, no, no. Tony Parker was not he was, hey, hey, listen and just look at two thoughs when we won the championship. He didn't finish none of them games. Tony Parker didn't finish speedy class in that defense because Smart Barry was killing him. All the point guards was killing him. He was I mean he was only he was only twenty at the time. He let let the man develop a little bit. I mean men noban it was young too, but she was cut from a different clock. You came from the States. You came from the street. You came from chewing concrete. I would have had another ship. He would have passed me the ball. Dog if you're the passing ball. We had nothing. Chill look at the ok okay, see game, just imagine something. The next something be motherfucker. You gets you hit six pays in the row and then motherucker started looking you off and again in the Western Conference game six to close it out. What you gonna think? Hold on, but not me when he I'm in the locker room, everybody in the in the locker room looking at them crazy, and even I get I ain't gonna say the coach name, but the coach come sit by, boys, man. The coach comes sit between me and Tim Ducking to say, y'all did everything y'all could. Somebody tried to be a hero. But I ain't gonna say who said that? Uh so so that so that story is why we can't. We can't say I had six of them bad boys. You gotta swing that. You gotta swing that. Yeah, if I just made one, you gotta swing. That's all I'm saying, man, That's all I'm saying. The toughest player you had to battle with today, though, thank today. Yeah, Clay, James Harden, anybody at your position, the toughest player. It's always, it's really good battles between him to James and Clay always yeah, always, Like I get I get joy out of that because I know I'm getting their best at least with Clay. You're gonna go at each other. Y'all gonna go at each other. James ain't gonna go out, but you and Clay you're gonna go out each other. But even for me, like that's a challenge of Guarden James, like because at the same time, like I study him, so I know I know a lot of his stuff. I put some of his his package into mine too, Like uh, like I ain't know shameing my game, Like I know I know talent in game when I see it, and I pay respects to it. And James got game and for sure he's in him and looking at his footwork, looking at the like how he get his shots off, looking at how he draw files like that, and it's because like he's a game changer. Like I honestly feel like we don't have the game. We wouldn't have the game we have today if it wasn't for James because he draws files so much like you see, that's all damn the NBA is today. Yeah, he didn't master that. He mastered that ship. But him Clay, Like I know Clay is gonna be a hard nosed defender. He's gonna be tough at hell trying to chase around on the other end of the floor. I love going against Avery Bradley and Marcus Smart because they don't they're gonna be passed on defense, Like they're gonna file the ship out of me. They're gonna take the balls sometimes and I know that that's gonna be like that challenges me to get better, Like I feel like that. I love that type of competition, m because they're gonna bring it. They dogs. Yeah, is it true that? Uh? Taking you back a little bit, Nelly used to walk you to school when he was Jim. How did that come about? Son? So he went to University City High School and that's fere my mom Tom So that's the it's the same, it's the city. So that's where I grew up. That's where Jason grew up. Let's hate them as when he grew up, Nelly grew up. The whole sat lunatics. They all we all from U City. So my mom taught all the same lunatics in high school. And once they went on they know path the glory and fame, and they would come back every now and then to the school and stay with up to everybody and be around in the city. And my elementary school was literally a hundred feet across the street from the high school, and so every now and then, like he would popping and walking me across the street. He was like, it was like you were stomping in your air force last you were stomping at your airports. Once you know you had over there over herd over. It's crazy. We got we got, we got some strong yards. But people don't realize, man, because I think people forget how influential Nellie was to music when he was on top. You mean, what did Jay say, the only only niggas move moving units is in Pimp Pimp Juice and us. Like it was. Nellie was at the top of the charts back then, really putting on for St. Louis Man. He changed the game for a long time. Definitely shout out to Nellie. A lot of people don't know. They're kind of pay the way for a lot of cuts. Man, he did a of a lot of them. He had kids wearing bad days on their face to the concert with no cuts. They have no cut with the dud rag with the head band on top. Who would you like to see as a guest on our show? Now, before you ask this question, if you say somebody, you have a plug that that we can get him on the show. You we got to use your plug. So who would you like to see as a guest on our show? Because we asked John this question, and that's how we got you. I would either say Jay, say them we got him, we got him today. Let me's see you got damn damn would be good, damn liar, damn liar. Yeah, good call most underrated player in the NBA besides yourself. Yeah, I think as good as you are, I still think you're underrated. Yeah, I would say everybody. I don't think he underrated. But Drew everybody everybody said that. Every players said Holiday, we gotta get Drew on here, we gotta get him on the show. When I tell you, like of people we asked that say Drew Holiday is fucking crazy. It's not even it's not even funny. How talented he is, like on both ends and the floor. Yeah, he just don't say nothing playing with the most swag? What player has the most swag? It's tough because everybody kind of got like an ego, Like everybody got yeah they all. I think Bronze is I think everybody like notices Bronze. Yeah. I think Steph stepping away like in his little celebration, in his little step way stuff trying to kiss you off, like stuff like you do. Uh uh? What are you currently binge? Watching black List? Oh? That's my show and there's so many shows. I gotta catch up, but I think I'm on like season three. I love black Lists? Yeah, actually have black List is a good show man, good call. Favorite quarantine, snack while you quarantine and what you what you're snacking on? What ain't not snacking on? Right? My go to is soft chocolate cookies. Someone else just said that the other day, to fresh out the oven or just a soft package like chips. Ahoy, you don't even matter, so yeah, yeah, that's the only requirement. Favorite retro Jersey I would say the old Raptors joints m M with the dinosaur on it. That's a classic court side seat at any game in history. Which game would it be and who would it be? You know what's funny is hell, I would have watched. My agents just sent it to me yesterday. He was like, watch this game on YouTube. It was Michael Jordan's. We just watched it last week, Michael Jordan in the garden when he had six mm hmmmm, epic epic game. You imagine being courtsided that she would have been dope. Yeah, all right, man, Well that hey Brad. We appreciate your time, man, thank you for spending it with us. Best to lux you and your family. 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