Mel Owens: The Journey Is Here!

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Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, welcome back to Bachler Happy Hour. I'm Joe and I'm Serena, and we are here today with the Golden Bachelor himself, Mel Owens. Mel, welcome to the podcast.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for having me. How you doing, I'm doing great? Thank you.

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Speaker 1: How do you feel You're you finished filming? Correct?

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Speaker 2: Yes, we finished a couple of weeks ago.

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Speaker 1: How do you feel?

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Speaker 2: Feel good? Feel very good?

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, good. I love to hear it. Let's let's start from the beginning. How did this come about? Like, how did you even get approached to do it?

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Speaker 2: Oh? It was sort of fortuitous. One of my friends.

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Speaker 3: Introduced me to some casting people, and then one thing led to another and I was interviewed and then casted thereafter.

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Speaker 4: Okay, nice and going into it. Had you ever watched the show? How familiar were you with the Bachelor franchise?

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Speaker 2: I had.

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Speaker 3: I think it started in two thousand and two or thereabouts, so I had watched it from that point going forward for about maybe two three years. Then I had my boys and then I didn't have as much time to watch, but I was in and out of the Bachelor broadcast from time to time, so I knew about you know how it worked and some of the people. But I didn't really follow it that closely because I had my kids and I was, you know, they're playing and doing other things. So I mean, I know about it, of course, and I was a fan. I've always been a fan, but not like a ardent fan like I was at the beginning and then at the end. I again, it's like it's like football, if it's on, you're gonna watch it, you know, if I you know, But I wasn't someone who watched it all the time because I just was doing other things.

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Speaker 2: But I liked it and I understood the sort of the format.

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Speaker 3: But I had not seen The Golden Bachelor other than the first opening scene and then that's you know, when they come out of limousines, And that's the only part I saw about The Golden Bachelor.

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Speaker 2: I didn't know how it ended. I didn't know anything about it.

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Speaker 3: I didn't know the people, but obviously I'm familiar with The Bachelor.

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Speaker 1: Going back to that time when you first watched the show, do you remember how you felt watching it. Did you think it was fake?

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Speaker 2: Did you think it did you.

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Speaker 1: Watch it thinking like, no way someone could actually fall in love on this show.

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Speaker 2: No, I thought it was a very fascinating idea.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I was probably forty years old, you know, right around forty. I thought it was fascinating.

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Speaker 2: It was great.

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Speaker 3: I was in to it, yeah, you know, I was. I was a lawyer and Stout Law Firm. People were always you know, talking about it, and this was the first few years and it was intriguing. They had, you know, great, great people on it.

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Speaker 2: You know, it was fascinating.

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Speaker 1: How long did you play in the NFL?

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Speaker 3: I topped to bottom eleven years. I was credited for ten, but in the eleventh year I left.

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Speaker 1: And you're a lawyer as well, how do you have How did you have time for that?

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Speaker 2: I did afterwards?

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Speaker 1: Okay, wow.

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Speaker 3: So after after I played, I worked in the financial industry for a while and then after that I went.

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Speaker 2: To law school.

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Speaker 4: How did you make that decision?

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Speaker 3: Well, I got very smart friends, and I called up my agent, who's my who was my lawyer at the time, and I was going over some of the things I wanted to do afterwards, and he.

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Speaker 2: Suggested I go to law school.

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Speaker 3: And I took his advice because he had represented me the entire time, and he still represents me today and a smart guy and he's hit.

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Speaker 2: On all cylinders all the time. So I just followed his advice. It's real simple.

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Speaker 4: And why right, you're done. Now you're going to law school. And you're like, okay, sounds good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean yeah, And it was a great decision, you know.

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Speaker 3: And again I had great advice, So I just followed the advice and it was it was, it was a good decision.

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Speaker 1: Do you think there's more opportunities now for players leaving the NFL than there was during your time?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, because the media is different. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Now, when I came in in nineteen eighty one, you know, there was no free agency, so with whatever team you were on, you were on and you were there basically forever. Now, thank god I was with the Los Angeles Rams because that was my favorite team as a kid. Okay, so you know, and I'm from Detroit at the time, and for a long time, the Lions were no good.

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Speaker 2: So I'm not really alive.

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Speaker 1: Wait so wait, you grew up in Detroit, but you were a Lions fan, I mean, not Rams fan.

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Speaker 2: Yes. Wow.

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Speaker 3: My favorite player was Deacon Jones. You know, he's a great Ram player, and but you know. What I liked was the Rams always came in on it in the afternoon, right because they had the first game was like, you know, during the East Coast. Second game was West Coast, so we'd watched the West Coast game. It'd be green and palm trees. And then the Rams had all the players. There was a glamour team, and I just fell in love with the Rams. They're my favorite team. And I played Pop Warner for the West Side Cubs, and I just loved the Rams. I loved Deacon Jones, so then I got drafted by him, you know, many years later, and and there was you know, dream come true. So I was playing with the Rams and nineteen eighty one and there was no free agency, so there, you know, there's our trinities, don't get me wrong, but not like there is today with all the social media and the streaming and the Internet and all the other outlets you can go. And then eighty seven, eighty two there was a strike. Eighty seven, there's a strike. Ninety two I believe was the time where they resolved a lawsuit. And then that was the first time a billion dollar TV contract was in place with free agency, and then everything blew up from that point.

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Speaker 1: Got it interesting? And then you do you currently live in Los Angeles.

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Speaker 2: Now I live in Orange County, Okay, Okay.

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Speaker 1: And what do your how many kids do you have?

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Speaker 2: I have two boys?

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Speaker 1: Two boys. How old are they?

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Speaker 2: Eighteen and twenty?

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Speaker 1: What do they think about their father being the Golden Bachelor?

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Speaker 3: Well, you know they you know, at the time, they're teenagers. Yeah, and teenagers are teenagers. And they were just you know, like, you know, do it, don't do it?

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Speaker 2: What is it?

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Speaker 3: You know, they were they knew about the Bachelor, but they weren't really invested.

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Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, my my.

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Speaker 3: Younger son, we were actually watching the Grant season just by it happen chance, right, This was before I was even casted. I wasn't even contacted. We're just watching it. I came on and I sort of got it, like maybe in the second week of the programming, and so he was watching it with me, and so this was first time he watched it.

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Speaker 2: And you know, obviously I knew about it.

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Speaker 3: So when I'm telling him how it works and he's watching it, then the advertisement came on for the Golden Bachelor, and.

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Speaker 2: So, oh, dad, you should do that?

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Speaker 3: You know, and I just well, I didn't give any any thought, right, we're just watching it, and then I didn't. I got hooked on their grant season, so I recorded it, you know, going forward, so like week two to week whenever I recorded the series. Then it came on again and my son was there. He goes, oh, Dad, you look, you're lucky man. He goes, it's not again, you're watching it. He didn't know if recording it right, so he got hooked.

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Speaker 2: On it too.

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Speaker 3: So then he's watching the women and then he started, you know, you know, picking like, oh did you keep.

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Speaker 2: Keep hit her? And you know, let her go? And how come he's doing this?

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Speaker 3: So he got into it right, And then we followed it to the end, and you know, we saw the final episodes, so then we then the Golden Bacheler opportunity came, so he was more into it.

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Speaker 2: The older one hadn't.

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Speaker 3: Been exposed to it, so but you know, they got they got more and more into it as you know, I started talking to him about it, so they finally they finally came around.

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Speaker 4: Well, and if there's ever a time to get into it, it's when your dad's the bachelor. This is the perfect.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know, they you know, they were once they realized that, you know, I had a chance, then they were in on it, right. But they're a little they're a little hesitant about getting filmed and all of that. So yeah, they came around, you know, after I explained to them, and then you know, they're sort of slowly you know, shown how the show works. And then they came around.

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Speaker 1: And you you're divorced, correct, Yes, do you still talk to your ex wife?

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Speaker 2: Not really? Okay?

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Speaker 1: Do you have any idea how she feels about you being the Golden Bachelor?

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Speaker 2: Not really? Okay.

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Speaker 4: You're an ex football player, so you obviously had all of your techniques for preparing for a game. How did you prepare to go film your season of The Bachelor?

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Speaker 3: Well, no matter what you do in any business, you have to have focus, right, and you gotta. You should you should study and know what it's about, especially if something like the the the the Bachelors.

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Speaker 2: It's a long running show, so you should. You should be able to, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, look back on some of the episodes and find out, you know, what happened, because I hadn't seen it for a long time. Other than the Grant season. And I hadn't seen really the Golden Bachelor, But you know, it's you don't really know about this that they can tell you about it until you're in it, and then when you're in it, it's just completely different than what you thought it was. But you know, you have to have stamina, energy, focus, and those are all the things you have to.

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Speaker 2: Do when you're in business, no matter what business you're in.

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Speaker 3: So it wasn't I did I did anything new, but I just focused more and I just you know, and I knew I was going to go away for like, you know, two months and got my mindset ready from that standpoint.

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Speaker 4: Did you get any advice from anyone from the Bachelor franchise that had done it before? Before, during or after five?

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Speaker 2: Jesse Palmer.

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Speaker 3: Jesse gave me advice because he had you know, obviously he's the host, so he sees everything. And then when he was you know, younger, he was the bass or so you know, he was you know, and he played football.

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Speaker 1: Too, played in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so and you know obviously played college and he played pro. So we have a lot of things in common. He actually is married to a Brazilian gal too. My wife Brazil was Brazilian, so there's a lot of similarities.

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Speaker 4: That I was all, ears, Yeah, he's kind of the best person to give you advice.

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Speaker 1: What did he Yeah, what was this advice?

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Speaker 3: You know, just you know, just like I told you, you know, stay focused and you know, and you know, know what's going on around you, and you know, and he's in production too, right, so he's he knows all about the way it's produced.

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Speaker 2: And he also does football.

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Speaker 3: He broadcasts football games in the Food Network, so he has a lot of experience.

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Speaker 2: In front of it and behind it.

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Speaker 3: So just just to be aware of things and you know, and just you advice along the way. And plus he was on set a lot, so I got to talk to him and you know, my dinner and breakfast with him a lot.

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Speaker 2: Nice.

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Speaker 4: Nice What were you most excited for and what were you most nervous for going into the season, I, you know.

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Speaker 3: Just anticipation because I didn't know what to expect other than I know that it was going to be a first rate, great run production, which they all are, and I knew they're going to have the you know, you know, beautiful women and and you know, sophisticated women and you know, their their profile, they try to match up with your profile.

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Speaker 2: So I knew all of that going in. It was going to be great.

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Speaker 3: I didn't I didn't think anything other than it was just going to be a great experience.

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Speaker 1: What was dating like before this for you?

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Speaker 3: I really didn't date before because I had my boys growing up, right, and my boys were with me the majority of the time, So I had them, and you know, all my energy was with them. So maybe a handful of dates here and there, but nothing serious, nothing long term.

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Speaker 2: Nothing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, let's talk women, mel. What is your type?

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Speaker 2: Well, I said it before.

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Speaker 3: You know, you know someone who has energy, you know, great personality, active, adventurous, lifetime learner. But you know, energy is a big deal.

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Speaker 4: Like blondes burnette.

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Speaker 2: That doesn't matter. That doesn't matter, No, there's that doesn't matter.

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Speaker 1: What do you do do you? Are you active? Do you go to the gym a lot? Any sports?

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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 3: I other than just dominating my kids like in ping pong and in basketball, But I don't I don't play sports. I work out obviously to stay in shape, but I don't play you know, just like basketball, a little bit ping pong bowl, you know, but no golf, nothing like that.

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Speaker 4: Do you miss football?

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Speaker 2: What's that?

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Speaker 4: Do you miss football?

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Speaker 1: No, that's so funny.

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Speaker 4: I feel like all professional athletes say that, like they don't. They don't. Usually they're usually no, I'm good, like I had my time.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, I'm good.

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Speaker 3: Those were my words. Good, I had my time. I played twenty six straight years of football. I love football. I love sports. My boys play baseball, They're going to play baseball in college. I'm all about college sports, high school sports, because I was coaching at the high school for a number of years football, so I like to be around the sport.

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Speaker 2: I like, you know, coaching, you know, young young people.

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Speaker 3: And sharing knowledge, but you know, playing wise, No, you know, no, I had my time.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's go take us to night one. You're standing there waiting for the women to step out of the limo. What's going going through your hat at that point?

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Speaker 3: Just I'm just nervous, man, Just nervous, just you know, anticipation, nerves, excitement.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, just But it was a wonderful feeling though.

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Speaker 3: It really was, because you know, there's a lot of bleeding up to it, a lot of people telling you, you know, not so much what to expect, but like production.

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Speaker 2: You know, you're standing here, they're gonna come here. This is what's gonna happen.

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Speaker 3: And basically it's flawless, as you guys know, except for there are a few glitches here and there, but they just smooth right over them. But mainly it was just nervousness, and you know, it was good nerves because you know, I played football. You know, I'm an attorney before cases before games.

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Speaker 2: If you're not nervous, then you're not excited.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you're not. You know, you're not excited. You're not nervous, so it can't be manufactured. So you know, the nerves are real, but they're good nerves, and I just enjoyed it.

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Speaker 4: Night one is Joe and I is one of our favorite episodes because, yeah, there's so much emotion, it's so intense, but having been there, it is such a well oiled machine, like they have Night One down to a science, so you really just kind of get to like you're just flowing through the motions of where they're telling you to go.

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Speaker 3: To greats experiences I've ever had in my life that those three four hours, because it takes a little while, you know, to get them all through the you know, the introductions, just it's just something that to experience is just it is unreal, It really is it.

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Speaker 2: It was a It was a really good experience.

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Speaker 1: For for these women. What what could they if, let's say someone you end up with someone, what could she expect with a life with you after the show?

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Speaker 2: I'm a I'm a nice sky. You know, You're gonna have a lot of fun with me.

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Speaker 3: I'm interested in them and but what they do, because it's got to be a two way street. I'm choosing them, but they're also choosing me, and there's gonna be a lot of similarities. But also I want to learn from them as well, because that's why you know, we're together, and it just can't be one sided either way. So I think for me, they're gonna they're gonna get someone who's excited, you know, to live, to live life in and to keep learning and have personal growth.

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Speaker 4: Are you still working? Are you retired?

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Speaker 2: I'm still working.

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Speaker 1: Is traveling back and forth or potentially moving cities something that you would consider.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, anything's possible. It just depends on the circumstance. And you know, where I live and then where she lives. But you never know, and you know, I talked to Chalk I think his name is Chalk from the first of the first Bacheorette, Golden Bachshorette. And they live apart, right, I mean I think they're engaged, but they live apart and they travel.

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Speaker 2: So you know, if you want to happen, it can happen. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: On the first night of the Bachelor, there is the first impression. Rose, What were you keeping an eye out for when you're looking for someone that makes a good first impression?

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Speaker 3: Well, just that the impression, right, what really hits you, you know hard, and that you can say, wow, that was something that was something different, that was that was really a different experience, and that one made an impression on me obviously. So I really wasn't looking for the first impression other than feeling it.

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Speaker 2: And then when you feel it, you go, oh, that's the person.

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Speaker 3: And look, they all were impressive, right, and they all had great stories and very sophisticated and accomplished. So it's hard to say that's the one, except for on that night that was the one.

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Speaker 2: And so.

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Speaker 3: It's a special you know, feeling, and that's why the person gets the first impression.

00:19:20
Speaker 2: Rows.

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Speaker 4: Of course it's going to be twenty something amazing women, but you're not. You're hopefully not going to fall in love with all of them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, you probably probably could, but to what extent because you know they're all amazing, but you know, there's different personalities, and they come from different parts of the country, and they have different backgrounds, and you know, you're looking for someone that matches with you, and you know, sometimes it does, and you know, sometimes maybe eight out of ten do and you know, things match, and then only two out of three over here. But you know, and maybe the thing that you like the most, maybe maybe their sense of humor that you're attracted to most.

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Speaker 1: What ended up being an unexpected challenge for you as the lead, well.

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Speaker 3: You know, the the not not the timing, but the scheduling, right, and and I'm fine with all of it. But and I was ready for whatever happened because I'm I'm coachable. You know, I've been you know, through a lot of you know a lot of things that are on time, you know, scheduling, but you know you have to be amenable to changes and be able to pivot, you know when you have to. It wasn't that big of a challenge but it was something that you know, you know, I had to get used to because things change, weather changes, you know, people change, you know, schedules change equipment.

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Speaker 2: So you know, it was.

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Speaker 3: Something that that was a little bit out of the ordinary for my day to day as I was doing it, you know, prior to this.

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Speaker 4: Something that we see a lot of the leads that come on this podcast expressed that they have difficulty with is the eliminations sending people home that they obviously have grown to care about and kind of breaking their heart a little bit. How was that for you?

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Speaker 2: Same way?

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Speaker 3: I mean, you just don't want to do it right because you know how much time and energy they've invested into you know, the process, into the journey, and obviously as it gets you know, deeper into the season, into the show, it becomes more difficult. Do you spend more time with them and you get to know them and there's no rhyme or reason really that you're you know, letting people go other than that's just the way the show is set up, you know.

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Speaker 2: I you know, I said, if I had.

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Speaker 3: Met you know, the women individually, it would be yes to all of them individually.

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Speaker 2: But that's not how it works.

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Speaker 3: It's you know, there's like twenty three or twenty five, you know on a show, and you're getting down to one. So the way the show works and the way the journey is that people are going to be let go. But it's painful, nonetheless, because you get to know these people and they don't deserve to let go other than that's the way the show works.

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Speaker 2: But it does hurt your heart letting them go.

00:22:28
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's not easy breaking hearts. Do you remember when was the last time that you could remember that you started falling for a woman?

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Speaker 2: Well, my wife, Okay, you know, I was, you know, twenty five years ago whenever it was, And that was twenty five years ago, So that was the time.

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Speaker 1: And did you ever expect to feel those feelings again?

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Speaker 3: No, because I thought I was going married forever. Know, you know, twenty five years is a long time. Yeah, and I'm not expecting anything different. So I'm not thinking like, oh, I'm falling in love and then I'm you know, in my head, I'm thinking about falling in love again.

00:23:11
Speaker 2: No, because I'm married.

00:23:14
Speaker 4: Is that your goal going on as the Golden Bachelor? You want to find someone to spread the rest of your life.

00:23:19
Speaker 3: With Well, yeah, I was open to find someone who I could share my life with.

00:23:25
Speaker 2: And you don't know until you're on.

00:23:28
Speaker 3: The show and you're meeting and speaking with and spending time with the women. But that's the ultimate goal, and and you have to tune in to find out.

00:23:41
Speaker 4: Did did your boys give you any advice when you went on the show?

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Speaker 2: I don't remember exactly, you know, any.

00:23:52
Speaker 3: Strict advice they gave me other than just have fun, right and be yourself because I'm gonna be myself no matter what. You know, I'm not gonna be someone that I'm not because I can't be. But they weren't giving me any advice other than just be myself. And you know, they know me, they know that i'd be myself.

00:24:11
Speaker 1: Was there anything they're like, just please, you know, don't do this like anything like that.

00:24:17
Speaker 3: No, because you know, the thing is they hadn't watched the show, so they weren't real familiar with all the ins and outs and ups and downs of the show and what really happens. Because the older one, I don't think I ever watched it, but that I know if you might have watched it on his phone, and the younger one just watched it, you know, maybe five weeks with me or four weeks with me, and he was sort of like in and out to watch it for a little bit, and then he'd leave and then oh, that girl's still there or why should you get rid of?

00:24:45
Speaker 2: Why to get rid of her? Right?

00:24:46
Speaker 3: So he like, you know, they're not invested in the franchise, so they didn't know how it works, so they didn't you know, they didn't have any any advice like, hey, don't do this and don't do that because of something they saw before.

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Speaker 1: So not really did you at all during during your time as the lead ever think what it would be like to be on the opposite end of that, because like usually you know, with Golden it's it's been a little different where the leads, most of them besides Joan, well, the two Bachelor leads never experienced being on the show. Did you did you think about that at all? Is that something across I.

00:25:22
Speaker 3: Tried to put myself in there in their place when when I was you know, talking to them and how how it must have been for them, and you know, to put themselves out there and also remember you're competing more or less with you know, other women and you're also the living you're living with them also, so you have all those other sort of personality things going on inside the mansion. So I tried to put myself in their shoes, you know, when I was talking to them and they were relating to me, how you know how difficult it was because they also were never in that situation either. But you know, I was on the other side, and I go, I know how much how difficult it must be to be in their chair going through these experiences, you know, with other women as well. So to answer your question, yes, to an extent.

00:26:18
Speaker 4: Nice Bachelor is known for their iconic dates. They do, you know, helicopters and the yachts and all the exciting travel. Was there anywhere that you were hoping to get to travel to, or any type of date that you were hoping to get to go on.

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Speaker 3: Well, they had called me and asked me what things I, you know, liked to do and and things like that sort, and I just told them, but they do such a great job. I didn't want to mess it up, all right, Just you guys, just do your professional job.

00:26:51
Speaker 2: And I was going to be great.

00:26:53
Speaker 3: And they're all great, They're all amazing experiences.

00:26:57
Speaker 2: Right, just just wonderful.

00:26:59
Speaker 3: So I'm glad I didn't offer up anything that would screw it up and they did a great job.

00:27:05
Speaker 1: Yeah I would. Yeah, that's what they're they're good at, you know, like.

00:27:08
Speaker 2: That's that's amazing, that's their area.

00:27:11
Speaker 1: They don't they don't need a lead to come in and be like because that's what I would do if I was like, we're gonna change his whole fucking shroll around now, and then they'd be like, it's canceled.

00:27:20
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.

00:27:21
Speaker 3: The thing is, you know, I'm I'm just smart enough to know don't mess the program up.

00:27:28
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, because you know when when when I went to the.

00:27:30
Speaker 3: University of Michigan, you know, I was seventeen years old and I got there, and then you have all these ideas and you go, no, it's been around for a long time.

00:27:38
Speaker 2: I go, I'm gonna follow the program.

00:27:41
Speaker 3: If I if I just follow the program, it's gonna be great.

00:27:44
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna follow the program. And it was great. I like that.

00:27:48
Speaker 1: Last, but not least, what advice would you give to any future Golden Bachelor's you.

00:27:56
Speaker 3: Know, just the advice that everybody gave me, because you know, you know, even the people who are in production, the producers and the people that were there and you know, you know, Jesse, they can give you all the advice you know and tell you how it's going to be, but you just don't know until you're in it. And when you're in it, I mean it's it's fast and furious and it's condensed like you're like from really for like two months, you're just like putting it together. Patience is what you need, right and just patience. It's going to be good. Let it happen, you know, open mind, open heart.

00:28:35
Speaker 4: Are you doing anything fun for the premiere? It's right around the corner. Give any plans.

00:28:41
Speaker 3: Actually be in New York because they've got the things planned for me. And again, I'm just following along the program, right, I'm not gonna try to do anything different. I'm just gonna go with it. So yeah, I'm not I'm not planning. I'm not planning anything. They're they're planning nice.

00:29:03
Speaker 1: Well, mel I am really looking forward to watching your season.

00:29:07
Speaker 2: And it was it's gonna be good man.

00:29:08
Speaker 1: Great meeting you for the time. Four we tune in, we will and to all our listeners, thank you guys so much for tuning in the batch of Happy Hour. Make sure you download and subscribe to the podcast.

00:29:21
Speaker 4: We have new exclusive interviews every single week. Thanks for listening.

00:29:24
Speaker 2: Bye, thanks guys, thank thanks MoU