164. We got a facelift! Miami goes deeper; Next Gen NYC's future

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Steve, if you're in a marriage
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housewife career, I think it's
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have an involvement, even then,
I would suggest keeping it

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separate. But if you are an
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reality star, any type of
whatever, and you get some new

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boyfriend, do not involve him in
your business. Yeah. And like, I

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have sources who work with
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people, and I have to tell you
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work with her anymore because
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and the other thing, he's
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it's very common. You you.

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Welcome to cocktails and gossip,
the podcast where we drink

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cocktails, but you better
believe we're going to spill the

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tape. We chat reality TV
celebrity blinds and the hottest

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tea from Bravo and cocktails.com
and as always, it's all alleged,

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and just for fun, we do not
verify our blinds. I'm B

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and I'm Amanda. Let's get into
this week's team.

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What's up? Cocktail ers, Amanda,
I am obsessed with Miami. I

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don't know why the ratings are
low, but I feel like all of our

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people are watching. I know they
are, because they're our people.

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Yeah, if you're a housewife
person, you're gonna like like,

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you're gonna like Miami, no
matter, even if you're just

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picking it up, like we said last
week, you don't go back. It's

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like you could. Yeah, people
always ask me that, and I always

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say to them, if you're
interested in a show, hop in and

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watch the season. And if you
like it, you're naturally going

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to want to go back, when you
have the time, and cram it all

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in. Um, but you can, oh, there's
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just pick it up.

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Yeah, completely. Before we
start talking about Miami, two

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items of business. First, thank
you to our cocktail party

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members for another great zoom
this week.

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And once again, we had like
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tea. It's Yes. I mean, we are a
network of gossipers worldwide,

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worldwide. And here's the thing,
do you know how we always say

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All roads lead to Bravo, and
it's so true, because so many

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Bravo fans have connections, and
so many Bravo fans are

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cocktails. And we're so thankful
that you come to our zooms and

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you drop these bombs, because
collectively, all of us are

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like, wait, what? And I always
ask if I can post, and sometimes

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it's a yay, sometimes it's a
nay, which is why we don't

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record them, which is why being
a cocktail is like, extra

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special. It's funny. Something
came up. What was it that

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started this conversation? Oh,
we'll get to it when we talk

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about Miami. But something came
up, and I post, I posted, like,

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cocktail is new, and somebody
said to me, b Can you poll and

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ask everybody what made them
became a cocktail, or what made

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them become, excuse me, Oh, I
saw that today, and that was a

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question I've never thought of.
I'm like, that's such a fun

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question. So a lot of you guys
are joining because my marketing

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skills are bar none. No, I'm
kidding, but it was so funny,

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like, people's answers, of
course, Amanda, there's a

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million scandal that was
definitely like our biggest sign

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up week ever. I think second to
that was when we exclusively

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broke the Lindsey Karl breakup.
That was a big one. But then

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people have random one, and the
funniest thing is, a lot of it

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is sports related, like when we
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stuff, a lot of our football, a
lot of our Buffalo Bills. We

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have a lot of buffalo followers,
right? Cocktails, because there

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was, like, their quarterback had
this whole scandal that we had

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first, and word got out, and you
guys told all your friends to

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join cocktail party, and we love
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then we've had the people who
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beginning, our OGS, yeah, so

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one of, one of and, you know, I
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can say the name. It's not like,
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like, I'm a founding member. And
I'm like, Yes, you are Mike, you

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are a founding member. I loved
that. I kind of want us to come

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out with hats that say founding
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Oh my gosh. I love that. I will
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I want that hat. I love it.
That's so good. The other piece

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of business, in case you guys
haven't had a chance to look we

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gave the website a facelift, and
it all rolled out this week. So

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the idea is to make it more
explorable, more scrollable,

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more enjoyable to

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read and Amanda, thank you so
much. Amanda has been working

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for weeks on this to get it
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about this, but it's very
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time, and it definitely was like
her love child at the.

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Beautiful. I love it. Yeah, and
guys, you can always email

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Amanda, DM me, email me, because
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on Instagram, I have a channel,
and I posted, I was like, hey,

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what do you guys think of the
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like, let me know what you like
better, what you what we can

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still work on. What isn't good,
all of that. This is for

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cocktails by cocktails, so

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still working on, and the
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keeping you logged into the
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me, guys, it is frustrating, and
it happens to Amanda and I where

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we click on Lisa and we have to
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not fully resolved, it keeps you
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I have to say that is something
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control over. That's more of an
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using the Instagram browser. I
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some sort of update to the
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noticing it too. There, they
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a little bit longer,

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which is good. So click our site
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logged out. Yeah,

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exactly. Okay, Miami, it really
was a great episode, some might

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say explosive. Let's start with
the happy Steve and Mary soul

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finally get married officially.
So you guys might remember, they

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have done a wedding every year
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was never legal until this year.
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that she explained why now,
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the legal rights that come along
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know they'll be together
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married. I thought it was so
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I thought it was so cute. I know
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didn't seem they were going far,
but you know how I feel about

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the fact that they were riding
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I was having a heart attack. I
am risk adverse, as the

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cocktails. Know. As a matter of
fact, Amanda was telling me

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about her weekend plans, and she
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I telling you this? Because she
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what was the thing that scared
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These are not activities I
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be a kayak at a low speed with a
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will condone wake surfing is
like wake surfing, you've

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already

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been injured. I mean, Costa Rica
cocktails, remember,

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that's true. I did. I did get
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my lip from a surfboard.

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more injuries over the course of
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my shoulders and my head.

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I promise you, I will promise
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careful during water sports, and
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risky water sports after I've
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drinking. That is definitely not
okay. Do not do that. I didn't

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even know that was something you
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why you can't go like in a
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out once after you've had a
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to the waist in the water with
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well, I just made you a promise.
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see, Kiki and Gertie, they're at
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of, Kiki is trying to advise
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ladies because Gertie is like,
yeah, you know, I have this beef

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with Julia, which we will get to
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ahead of that, and I think Kiki
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know that it's not just Julia
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she tries to gently say, Well,
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saying that you do too much.
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is, do you see that with Gertie?
Do you see what the ladies are

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So I kind of do, but I will say
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a little bit more into the fight
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Gertie. I've always thought even
there's all even in a world

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where housewives are extra all
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about me with Gertie. Which part
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have the kind of business you've
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behind it, right? Yeah, but I do
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her ego go way up, and I have a
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more what everybody is reacting
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situation. But I will say a
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seems to me that the Gertie and
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of disagreement on specific
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go? Because Gertie is saying,
Gertie is saying that she did.

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Julia is saying that Gertie
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little D Well, again, a

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confessional. Julia said that,
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like you asked me to come, you
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I just went to support you.
Julia didn't oppose

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that. So I my question. I guess
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want to ask you the same
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regardless of what city,
regardless of what their

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personality is, they're a lot.
They wouldn't be cast if they

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weren't. Some have a more in
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think that when you think of
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with her face, with her hand
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can kind of take over a
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but who isn't a lot, and I
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gonna get more into this, but I
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opportunity to get closer to
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that there's some truth to
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on the ship, and I have to tell
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the Miami premiere. It wasn't
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actually, was actually a couple
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went with her own photographer,
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photographer take pictures of
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selfies with fans, or if she
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take it. So it's it's a diva,
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Situation happening there. But
don't all these housewives do

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too much, don't they all think
they're superstars? Think of

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Lisa. Think of Larsa, you know.
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don't have that in your face,
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the matter born, you know,
they're the OGs. They think

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right rule the roost, and
everyone needs to stay in line.

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Adriana is so dramatic, and
Julia is one to talk because I

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have to say, I originally found
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her as a full time housewife,
but there was something

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endearing about it, about her,
and like, I totally get the vibe

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now that she thinks she's a
superstar. And again, we're

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going to get into details of
their fight, but yeah, so no, I

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think it's a matter of what I
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longer on the show, so Gertie
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Nicole was very beloved by the
fans. I think that Alexia and

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Marisol see an opportunity to
bring Julia over to them and get

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rid of Gertie altogether?

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as what we've seen before, which
unfortunately, says a lot, and

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not in a great way about Julia.
Yeah, oh yes, we see that Lisa's

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dad had passed, we do learn
about something. You know, a few

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things about her childhood, that
he was an alcoholic. She finally

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had forgiven him, using her
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before he passed. And then she
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she got up to Canada, but he was
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there, so he passed away before
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obviously very, very
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see Kiki with her mom,
discussing her difficult

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relationship with her father,
who it seems that she is also

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helping get to the US from
Haiti, despite the difficult

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relationship

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and again, the Miami wives,
really, they go deep. They don't

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just talk about their parents in
passing. You really learn the

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whole backstory, the struggles,
the difficulties, the good times

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we've seen it with all of the
women I felt. I mean, I think we

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all felt terribly for Lisa. You
could visibly see her pain, and

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I think it was really touching.
I want to use the word to see

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that Kiki is trying to use what
she's watching her friend go

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through to inspire her to try
her best to make amends with her

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father, and she's honest about
the fact that she doesn't know

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what that would look like as far
as her relationship with him,

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but that she would feel a sense
of peace knowing that her

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children got to know him and he
got to know them. And I think

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you know, we're we're watching
Lisa, kind. Kind of say that

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this is a regret she's going to
have to carry. And I think it's

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a powerful thing that Kiki's
trying to take the power and

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say, you know, I don't want to
have regrets, and I'd rather do

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comfortable, and maybe my father

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hmm, and that Lisa's even saying

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that too, like, you know, don't,
don't let these things fester,

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you know, don't, don't do what
she did. Essentially, I there is

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so much guilt that comes with
loving and being a loved one of

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an alcoholic. I can only imagine
that Lisa was going through it

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on a lot of different levels,
with the grief, obviously, but

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the guilt, the I wish we had
connected, reconnected earlier,

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all of that. You know, it's good
that she was there and went to

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honor him, and that she learned
from her situation, and is using

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her platform as a way to say,
don't do as I did. So we get to

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Marisol surprise wedding party,
which was hilarious to me when

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she's saying to her stuff said,
like, tell your mommy She looks

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pretty. Oh my god, showing up
with the eye patch. That's

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hysterical, but that's like
Miami just is the perfect

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combination. You go from a scene
with Lisa, you know, headed to

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her father's funeral and the
touching conversation of Kiki

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with her mom, and then right
into Marisol teasing her

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stepson, probably half drunk
with an eye patch because she

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has a sty

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so good. Sorry. Was is one of
those moments too, like there

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will memes will be made. Yes,

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Gertie walks in so awkward,
she's very clearly treated like

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an outsider, with the exception
of Kiki, but not as much of an

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outsider as Adriana, who wasn't
even invited.

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You know me, I normally would
be, I would think that it was

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mean to not invite her, but in
this case, because it's

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marisol's wedding party and they
don't get along, it did make

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sense to me,

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and I will say going back to the
main issue in Adriana and

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Marisol relationship, which was
Marisol thought maybe Adriana

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was romantically involved with
her ex, and Marisol was with

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this ex for a number of years.
Adriana denies it, but it she

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does admit that there was a
friendship and they were close,

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and that is girl code. So I can
understand. I do think sometimes

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Marisol and Alexia can be a
little Regina George and you

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can't sit with us, but in the
case of Adriana, she kind of

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earned it with the two of them.
I hate to say it.

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She does. She dishes it. She
dishes it. Right back to those

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two. I. Mean, I would hope that
maybe they can bury the hatchet

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at this point, now that Marisol
has moved on and is happy, and

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Adriana seems to be very happy
with her French sausage.

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I mean, she's too much. She's
too excited with him, like he

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looks semi interested, and she's
like, you're so good looking.

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Everyone loved you. Like, I
think it's, I think it's the

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need for public approval that,
like, makes me sad about

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Adriana, yeah, like, she's a
successful woman in her own

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right. She's a beautiful woman.
Why does she need the other

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women to admire her boyfriend,
for her to feel validated. That

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always irks me. It

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almost seems like she's telling
herself that too. Like, I really

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like you, right, right? I do,
right, yeah. And

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he kind of seems like he's just
dating her, like, I don't see it

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a reciprocal. Like, you know,
sometimes they come on and

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you're like, wow. Like, like,
with Luke and Kristen as an

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example. Like, you could see
right away that it was very much

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a two way street, and he was so
into her, and yet he's

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reciprocated, whereas, like with
Adriana, she's just like, Oh,

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he's so good looking, and he
likes me. So this is the best

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ever.

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Yep, completely agree. Adriana,
too. I just think, you know,

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some people are oil and water,
and I think Adriana and Alexia

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and Marisol, just I don't know
that they're ever going to be

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close friends. Okay, so moving
on to Larsa sitting down at the

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party. Larsa starts to tell them
about Milan with Lisa and in

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Milan. They had started, you
know, she's as she says, like it

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was awkward, but then they
started to kind of get along.

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And then we saw this scene The I
is it pline Philip plein or Phil

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Philip fine. Philip fine. Okay,
that at at the show. Obviously

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there was some shadiness, but
like the both of them, Lisa and

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Larsa, start talking to fabulous
the rapper, and they're like,

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Okay, well, we've been fighting,
and this is what our beef is.

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And he is like, Okay, you need
to stop hanging out with your

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friend's ex, and you need to be
respectful in each other's

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homes, and that should squash
the beef, which is like, Well,

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duh, but like, I mean, if it
takes fabulous to tell them and

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they're gonna go with it, then
great.

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They're both so unserious. It's
like, even when they're

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fighting, they still want to,
like, Kiki together, which makes

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me laugh, because they're
literally, literally, were so

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mad at each other, which I will
point out, it was very sweet to

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see Lisa go over to Lars son and
give him a pep talk before he

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mobbed. Yeah, like it's like
they're fighting, but there is,

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like, listen, they're friends so
long they're both, they're both

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so unserious. I mean, that's the
word I have to use. Like they're

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both so self involved and so
vain and

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but, yeah, she, she showed
herself as a mom, just like you

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or I would do is that if we're
behind, you know, backstage at

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like, a big play or something,
that one of our a friend's kid

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is going to be in, you go back
there, and you say, good luck,

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you know. And like, I know your
mom isn't back here, but so I,

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you know, I'm here for you. Any
mom would do that to their

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friend's kid, that was a little
dose of humanity, yeah. And oh,

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so the other piece of I'm
actually really curious to get

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your opinion about this, because
she's telling the story. Lars is

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telling the story, and she whips
out her phone, and she's like,

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look. And then Jodi looked like
this, and like, shows him the

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camera. Kiki is like, oh. And
then a couple of the other girls

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don't really have a reaction,

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so Bravo. And the editors made
it extra dramatic for us,

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because we kind of see Lisa and
Larsa like hanging out at the

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after party and having a good
time together, right, right,

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with fabulous and letting
bygones be bygones. But we see

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Lisa starting to be like, where
is Jodi? Where is Jodi? And then

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we see it cuts to a black
screen. It says, cameras went

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down for the night, but the
tension between Larsa and Lisa

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and Jodi picked back up. So
we're like, what happened? So

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there they are, marisols wedding
party, and the girls naturally

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ask about Milan. Larsa says that
Jodi was screaming at her and

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that Jodi was saying he didn't
want Lisa and Larsa to talk

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anymore. Julia goes, What did
his eyes look like, which was

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like, really suspicious, like,
Girl now you guys had a side

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conversation. Obviously, Larson
was trying to insinuate that

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there was skiing going on
cocaine. And I just have to say

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the irony of the fact that
Marcus Lars ex was caught doing

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cocaine in France last summer.
And when I say caught, there are

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pictures of it all. Over the
internet, I posted to my stories

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yesterday. So here's the
funniest thing. Somebody sends

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me a picture of him in a very
messy basement. It looked like

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his parents basement, and they
sent it to me because in the

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background of the selfie is a
framed picture of Jordan,

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Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen,
when they were playing for the

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bulls. How?

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Very famous picture. So,

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so, okay, yes, her boyfriend is
a 31 year old guy. Yes, we know

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that. They're two amazing
basketball players. People love

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them. That said it's a little
weird that he took a selfie, and

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in the selfies a picture of his
girlfriend's ex husband and her

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ex boyfriend's father hugging.
So that's all I saw in the

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picture. And I was just like,
What the heck. Meantime, I go to

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Lars. I'm like, maybe they broke
up, and this is shade, but no,

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she has a picture of the two of
them posted. He was with her

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live last night, and watch what
happens. So this guy has a messy

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basement apartment, or and or
his parents basement and a

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framed picture of his
girlfriend's exes. Okay, so

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there's that, but you guys are
like, hey, B, I know you're

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focusing on the picture, but how
about the drug scale next to him

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with about five huge bears of
what looked like white powder. I

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had to go back to this picture.
So, yeah, zoom. I did not see

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that. So this is current day.
Okay, yeah. So, you know, Lars

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is saying all this in the
episode, but she has one ex

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boyfriend who has pictures all
over the internet of him

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partaking, and now another ex
boyfriend. Listen, could it be a

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prop? Perhaps, I don't know. I
would imagine he wouldn't

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intentionally, but His room was
such a mess, he clearly didn't

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realize it was in the picture.
In the picture or what have you

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ultimately coupled

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Valley situation where it's
right, everybody drinks and acts

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obnoxious, but we're just gonna
pile up on Danny. About this is

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that what is happening here is
everyone in Miami does cocaine,

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but we're gonna pile up on Jody.

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And then you kind of see the
ladies go like, but then in

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their confessionals, they're all
like, well, it could have been

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the flash of the camera. They're
like, I don't know how his eyes

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normally look. So nobody really
co signs it, yeah, although the

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preview it acted like they did
in the actual scene, they

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didn't. It was really larsha.
Lars, Larsa

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pushing that narrative. Well,
Kiki stopped herself. I don't

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know if you noticed that at the
table, because she says, what

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was he and then stops and like,
I think she was gonna say, what

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was he on? But Larsa then says
to all the ladies that you know

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that night, she was telling Lisa
that she doesn't trust Jodi. She

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thinks he's using her for her
money that underwent Judy was

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yelling at her and that now
apparently, Lisa doesn't do

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business calls without him being
on the phone, which is insane to

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me, because Lisa has been so
hurt in her previous situation

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with Lenny, where Lenny had all
of the control over all of the

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money. I can't understand why
she wouldn't have learned her

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lesson and keep more control
over her, her business, her

428
00:28:11,220 --> 00:28:13,020
money situation in general. And

429
00:28:13,019 --> 00:28:17,099
this isn't Larsa just saying
this. They do a flashback of all

430
00:28:17,099 --> 00:28:20,899
of them in the Uber in Milan.
And in front of Larsa, Lisa is

431
00:28:20,899 --> 00:28:23,839
running her calls by, you know,
they're talking business, and

432
00:28:23,839 --> 00:28:28,579
it's very clear that he is very
much involved in her, you know,

433
00:28:28,579 --> 00:28:31,219
remember, whatever business and
brand deal she has. She's also a

434
00:28:31,219 --> 00:28:33,739
housewife. She does appearances,
all of these things, and he

435
00:28:33,739 --> 00:28:37,639
clearly is her assistant, for
lack of a better term, I and

436
00:28:37,639 --> 00:28:41,199
this is not the first time this
happens, far too often, if any

437
00:28:41,199 --> 00:28:45,519
housewife is listening, hire a
PR person, hire an actual

438
00:28:45,519 --> 00:28:49,359
assistant, pay that person to do
these jobs for you. Do not

439
00:28:49,359 --> 00:28:59,559
involve a guy you're dating.
Give me a break seriously. With

440
00:28:59,559 --> 00:29:03,419
that said, Alexia, who we know
she's got a bad picker too, but

441
00:29:03,419 --> 00:29:07,079
she pointed out that Larsa is
bringing all of this up when

442
00:29:07,079 --> 00:29:11,159
Lisa is currently in Canada
burying her father, like Larsa

443
00:29:11,159 --> 00:29:14,519
couldn't table this conversation
for another time. Yeah.

444
00:29:14,519 --> 00:29:18,659
Definitely disrespectful. Yeah.
So the whole thing is like,

445
00:29:18,659 --> 00:29:22,279
yeah, Larsa isn't wrong about
how she feels about Jodi. I'm

446
00:29:22,279 --> 00:29:24,619
not talking about his
extracurricular activities.

447
00:29:24,619 --> 00:29:28,039
That's clearly his business,
right? She isn't wrong to feel

448
00:29:28,039 --> 00:29:30,379
like, you know, this guy could
be using her. Why is he so

449
00:29:30,379 --> 00:29:33,259
involved in her business?
Because I feel the same way, and

450
00:29:33,259 --> 00:29:37,699
I feel that about if you're in a
marriage that pre exists, your

451
00:29:37,699 --> 00:29:41,679
wife's new housewife career, I
think it's totally valid that

452
00:29:41,679 --> 00:29:44,919
you would have an involvement,
even then, I would suggest

453
00:29:44,919 --> 00:29:48,699
keeping it separate. But if you
are an established public

454
00:29:48,699 --> 00:29:53,019
figure, reality star, any type
of whatever, and you get some

455
00:29:53,019 --> 00:29:56,919
new boyfriend, do not involve
him in your business. Yeah, and

456
00:29:56,919 --> 00:30:00,479
like, I have sources who work
with housewives and who. Our PR

457
00:30:00,479 --> 00:30:03,839
people, and I have to tell you
how often they're like, I can't

458
00:30:03,839 --> 00:30:06,239
work with her anymore because
the new boyfriend, this, that

459
00:30:06,239 --> 00:30:08,339
and the other thing, he's
involved in everything. Like,

460
00:30:08,339 --> 00:30:10,439
it's very common,

461
00:30:10,860 --> 00:30:17,040
yeah, yeah. And I understand
where, or I get, I guess where,

462
00:30:17,100 --> 00:30:21,680
Lisa probably feels overwhelmed.
And would like somebody with

463
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:26,600
some business know how, but I am
hoping that she is also looking

464
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:30,680
at him a little sideways. If
he's like, why are you telling

465
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,080
if she's like, why are you
telling me I shouldn't be

466
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:37,520
talking to Larsa. Nobody should
be controlling her on that

467
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,180
level. And so then it really
makes you question, then, why

468
00:30:40,180 --> 00:30:41,980
does he want to be so involved
in everything

469
00:30:41,980 --> 00:30:47,020
else? How about this? I am a
woman who, granted, Lenny is an

470
00:30:47,020 --> 00:30:51,340
asshole, but he very clearly was
successful in his business and

471
00:30:51,340 --> 00:30:54,220
did well financially, and would
never have the time to manage

472
00:30:54,220 --> 00:30:58,000
his wife's housewife career. If
I'm Lisa, I wouldn't want to be

473
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,960
with a man who had the time to
manage my career. What is he

474
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:04,620
doing that he has the time to
manage me? If my husband had the

475
00:31:04,620 --> 00:31:09,960
time to run my website and my
podcast, like, do more for

476
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:10,980
yourself. Boo,

477
00:31:11,700 --> 00:31:14,160
it is like, you know what I
mean, like, get your own damn

478
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,460
job business or whatever. But
it's like, okay if you're bored,

479
00:31:17,460 --> 00:31:20,600
like, start a new one, dude.
Yeah, I agree with you. Yeah.

480
00:31:20,599 --> 00:31:23,899
He sold his business, yeah,
okay, and Todd's rich, but

481
00:31:23,899 --> 00:31:28,039
rents, okay, yeah, yeah. I love,
there's like, a video, and I

482
00:31:28,039 --> 00:31:30,619
really should find it and repost
it where he, like, explained, I

483
00:31:30,799 --> 00:31:33,319
don't know, his first season,
first season, we met him, our

484
00:31:33,319 --> 00:31:37,339
second, why it's advantageous to
rent over own. And he went into

485
00:31:37,339 --> 00:31:39,859
this whole thing about because
he buys investment properties

486
00:31:39,859 --> 00:31:42,339
and all this like, yeah, if you
believe that I have a bridge to

487
00:31:42,339 --> 00:31:47,199
sell you in Brooklyn, stop it.
Yeah. Nobody's paying $30,000 a

488
00:31:47,199 --> 00:31:50,619
month in rent because they can
afford to buy but they don't

489
00:31:51,339 --> 00:31:54,339
want to, yeah. I mean, when you
don't own a primary residence,

490
00:31:54,339 --> 00:31:57,279
right? So if I own a primary
residence, and I decide, You

491
00:31:57,279 --> 00:31:59,799
know what, three months a year,
I'm gonna go to Florida and rent

492
00:31:59,799 --> 00:32:02,759
a bowling penthouse, but I don't
want to have a second property I

493
00:32:02,759 --> 00:32:05,579
can afford. To just be a little
frivolous knowing that I have

494
00:32:05,579 --> 00:32:08,219
equity in a property, but he
doesn't own a property.

495
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:14,040
Yeah? Okay, Todd, yeah. Julia
and Gardi, so their fight

496
00:32:14,100 --> 00:32:19,020
happens towards the episode, the
end of the episode, and you guys

497
00:32:19,020 --> 00:32:23,360
know, but we had shared with all
of you guys last year that we

498
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:28,460
had heard that Julia throws a
green a drink at guardie. And,

499
00:32:28,460 --> 00:32:31,340
oh, I have to repost that. I
forgot about that. Oh, yeah,

500
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,520
because remember, it kind of
seemed hard to believe that,

501
00:32:34,519 --> 00:32:37,519
yes, it was one of those things
that we posted. And we were

502
00:32:37,519 --> 00:32:39,619
like, is this bullshit? Yeah.

503
00:32:39,679 --> 00:32:43,719
But now we see, you know, and,
and we saw Julia walk in there

504
00:32:43,719 --> 00:32:48,219
in some kind of heightened
state, a little on edge. She was

505
00:32:48,279 --> 00:32:50,199
with me. Has had a few drinks,

506
00:32:50,260 --> 00:32:54,040
yeah, I'm kidding. I don't think
she was with Jody. No.

507
00:32:54,460 --> 00:32:58,360
And then they start fighting
about the cruise, which the

508
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:02,340
crazy thing to me about all
this, and the piece that I am

509
00:33:02,340 --> 00:33:06,120
like this is clearly, you know,
they saved this drama, but that

510
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,540
it happened like, 10 months
before filming. See,

511
00:33:09,539 --> 00:33:12,419
like I get that Julia was
probably over served and drunk,

512
00:33:12,419 --> 00:33:15,779
which is why she really took it
to the next level. I also feel

513
00:33:15,779 --> 00:33:18,359
that she's reaching for a
storyline because she can't show

514
00:33:18,359 --> 00:33:21,619
the boys, which would have been
her main storyline, and we've

515
00:33:21,619 --> 00:33:24,199
said that she shared that she
wasn't able to show them because

516
00:33:24,199 --> 00:33:27,499
the adoption wasn't finalized,
right? I think Julia's really

517
00:33:27,499 --> 00:33:30,379
enjoying being a housewife. I do
believe that there was some

518
00:33:30,379 --> 00:33:34,639
annoyance at Gertie on the
cruise, and I think that she may

519
00:33:34,639 --> 00:33:37,339
have shared her annoyance with
Alexia and Marisol, who, like I

520
00:33:37,339 --> 00:33:41,019
said at the top of the pod, were
like, Let's out her. She decided

521
00:33:41,019 --> 00:33:44,379
to just dive into the deep end
and go for it, to try to sit at

522
00:33:44,379 --> 00:33:47,679
the table with Alexia Marisol,
who she perceives as having

523
00:33:47,679 --> 00:33:51,279
power with production. And if
she's in their good graces, it's

524
00:33:51,279 --> 00:33:53,859
good for her to stay on the
show. We know that she's not as

525
00:33:53,859 --> 00:33:56,319
close with Adriana, which I
believe was probably also

526
00:33:56,319 --> 00:33:59,979
influenced by them or by her,
feeling like Adriana is a friend

527
00:33:59,979 --> 00:34:05,279
of and not really in with any of
the girls. So she's not a great

528
00:34:05,279 --> 00:34:08,279
person to align herself with.
Julia's making something that

529
00:34:08,279 --> 00:34:12,839
doesn't need to be a huge, huge
deal, a huge, huge deal. We see

530
00:34:12,839 --> 00:34:15,239
more of her full out with
Adriana later in the season. We

531
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,659
know that's coming. We have a
video that was sent to us by one

532
00:34:18,659 --> 00:34:22,039
of you guys from the finale
party, which went viral at the

533
00:34:22,039 --> 00:34:25,699
time that we shared it. We'll re
share that. But we also know

534
00:34:25,819 --> 00:34:29,239
that, again, without Nicole,
Gertie doesn't have power. And I

535
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:33,379
don't just mean amongst the
women, I mean amongst production

536
00:34:33,379 --> 00:34:36,199
and the viewers. I think that
Nicole was a break, big draw,

537
00:34:36,199 --> 00:34:40,159
and without Nicole, and with
Gertie storyline, thank God,

538
00:34:40,219 --> 00:34:42,759
she's doing well with her
cancer, but that's no longer a

539
00:34:42,759 --> 00:34:45,699
thing. It doesn't seem that
she's planning weddings anymore,

540
00:34:45,819 --> 00:34:49,059
and she has a nice, happy,
healthy home life. So that can't

541
00:34:49,059 --> 00:34:53,499
be a storyline. So I could see
Gertie, and we did hear that

542
00:34:53,499 --> 00:34:57,339
there was talk of her becoming a
friend of So ironically, this

543
00:34:57,339 --> 00:35:01,199
whole drama may have solidified
a full. Time spot for her this

544
00:35:01,199 --> 00:35:04,859
season, but I can see Gertie
being nervous of being demoted

545
00:35:04,859 --> 00:35:09,659
to part time or not being asked
back in favor of someone more

546
00:35:10,079 --> 00:35:12,779
with more going on, because when
you're when you have a normal

547
00:35:12,779 --> 00:35:15,659
life, which is why maybe they
think she does too much, because

548
00:35:15,659 --> 00:35:18,959
she does too much to kind of be
noticed, because otherwise, what

549
00:35:18,959 --> 00:35:21,499
are they going to talk about?
Russell's awesome. Her boys seem

550
00:35:21,499 --> 00:35:24,079
happy, healthy, well adjusted,
and she doesn't have really a

551
00:35:24,079 --> 00:35:26,659
career to follow. As of right
now,

552
00:35:27,140 --> 00:35:31,580
I do think it's interesting to
follow the post cancer journey

553
00:35:31,580 --> 00:35:36,380
as well, because I, I will say
that it's it's interesting

554
00:35:36,380 --> 00:35:40,060
because I think having had a
good friend who went through a

555
00:35:40,060 --> 00:35:44,020
very, you know, similar
situation. The road after cancer

556
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:48,040
is long, and there's so many
twists and turns, because

557
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,620
there's, there's the whole
reconstruction, you know, Gertie

558
00:35:50,620 --> 00:35:53,500
is like, I'm gonna take some fat
from my back and put it in,

559
00:35:53,500 --> 00:35:58,240
like, and then the amount of
surgeries that people have to go

560
00:35:58,240 --> 00:36:01,740
through. And I had a friend,
like I said, who went through

561
00:36:01,740 --> 00:36:04,980
this, and she ended up getting
this terrible infection from the

562
00:36:04,980 --> 00:36:09,960
expanders she was putting in,
and in order to the do the

563
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:14,100
reconstructive surgery, ended up
being back in the hospital for

564
00:36:14,100 --> 00:36:17,460
days. And these things, you
know, everything makes you

565
00:36:17,460 --> 00:36:20,480
scared again, right? And
everything brings back the bad

566
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:25,640
memories. And so I don't know, I
maybe the majority of viewers

567
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,280
don't find that interesting, but
I think it's a really

568
00:36:28,580 --> 00:36:30,860
interesting story to tell,
because it's a story that

569
00:36:30,860 --> 00:36:35,060
doesn't get told much, right?
There's the I have cancer and

570
00:36:35,060 --> 00:36:38,480
God, you know, God willing, I no
longer have cancer. But then

571
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,620
it's all of the stuff that
happens afterwards doesn't

572
00:36:41,620 --> 00:36:44,440
really get discussed. So it's
good to see there's a

573
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:47,980
spotlight on that. I agree. I
don't think production would

574
00:36:47,980 --> 00:36:49,060
agree. Yeah,

575
00:36:49,660 --> 00:36:54,820
it's probably a lot of men.
Okay, so Adriana, speaking of

576
00:36:54,820 --> 00:37:00,120
her from earlier, I really felt
for her when she said in her

577
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:06,000
confessional. You know, not only
did Julia not tell me first

578
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:11,100
before she told everybody else
about the boys, but Julia let

579
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:18,300
Alexia see the boys first. And I
was like, wow. Because, like,

580
00:37:18,420 --> 00:37:22,040
yeah, when there's something big
going on your best friends know

581
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:25,460
before you're telling everybody
else. And so Julia really,

582
00:37:25,940 --> 00:37:27,380
really broke that

583
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:31,100
Julia's whole character is being
called into question. Because I

584
00:37:31,100 --> 00:37:33,620
agree with you with that. But
something that I totally forgot

585
00:37:33,620 --> 00:37:37,040
to mention when we were talking
about the blow up between her

586
00:37:37,100 --> 00:37:40,180
and Gertie was that after she
threw the drink on Gertie, and

587
00:37:40,180 --> 00:37:43,180
Gertie was like, okay, gloves
are off. She was like, Martina

588
00:37:43,180 --> 00:37:46,540
was on the boat, and you guys
had a fight, and that's why she

589
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,600
left. And Julia said before
that, that it was a cancer

590
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:53,740
situation. So okay, that's very
shady if you're saying something

591
00:37:53,740 --> 00:37:56,980
was a cancer situation, but it
was actually a marital fight.

592
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:01,560
One two, Gertie said, and like,
you have the nerve to say

593
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,800
something to me, you got a
facelift in New York while

594
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:10,020
Martina was getting chemo and
chemo, yeah, and they asked Kiki

595
00:38:10,020 --> 00:38:12,420
on Watch What Happens Live last
night, and Kiki said it was

596
00:38:12,420 --> 00:38:15,840
true. Now I'm just gonna say
this. I'm all about the

597
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:19,200
facelift. I hope to be able to
afford one one day. With that

598
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,860
said, when your spouse is going
through chemotherapy, it

599
00:38:21,860 --> 00:38:24,800
probably isn't a priority for
you to get a facelift for the

600
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:29,480
upcoming season. So I think what
Gertie shared between the Oh,

601
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,120
she said it was a cancer thing,
not going on the cruise, and

602
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,640
Gertie was like, No, it wasn't.
You guys had a fight and you got

603
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,880
a facelift while your wife was
getting chemo, and you basically

604
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:41,860
just ditched Adriana because
you're like, Okay, she's, she's

605
00:38:41,860 --> 00:38:44,260
not a big player in this
housewives game, and I like

606
00:38:44,260 --> 00:38:47,740
being a housewife, so back
burner her, as per Alexia

607
00:38:47,740 --> 00:38:52,660
Marisol advice and back burning,
back burner Gertie. So I never

608
00:38:52,660 --> 00:38:55,000
really found Julia interesting,
and now I think she's a bitch.

609
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:55,420
So

610
00:38:55,840 --> 00:39:00,900
bye, yeah, yeah. I don't know
how you spin that. That's a, not

611
00:39:00,900 --> 00:39:04,680
just a bad look, but like a, I
think, a terrible way to treat

612
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:14,340
your spouse. Yes. So I think we
can all agree on that. Okay, did

613
00:39:14,340 --> 00:39:17,340
I just hear you open another
drink? I am getting really

614
00:39:17,340 --> 00:39:21,680
jealous. I'm drinking my
Surfside. I am drinking water

615
00:39:21,740 --> 00:39:23,720
and listen, my kids had their
last day of

616
00:39:23,720 --> 00:39:29,420
school. I have no more end of
the year obligations, and

617
00:39:29,420 --> 00:39:33,920
mothers and fathers everywhere
can feel what that is. I mean, I

618
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:38,360
still do have, like, packing for
camp and all that shit. Oh yeah,

619
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:42,340
but I don't have homework
homework assignments. I don't

620
00:39:42,340 --> 00:39:45,820
have to take time off of work to
go to, like, the 15th and

621
00:39:45,820 --> 00:39:49,660
starting somewhere for, yeah,
the kids last day of school, by

622
00:39:49,660 --> 00:39:53,080
the way. That was not judgment.
That was jealousy. Oh, because

623
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:57,040
you have to drive kids later. I
am no, and actually I don't

624
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:59,740
tonight, and that's why I'm
like, This is why I need, I

625
00:39:59,740 --> 00:40:04,020
need. To get a mini fridge in
the office. So when I text

626
00:40:04,020 --> 00:40:07,500
your husband and tell him to
bring you over a beer, or,

627
00:40:07,620 --> 00:40:11,280
if he were only home and the
dogs were never helped, I

628
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,920
don't have one because, like
eventually kids grow up old

629
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:17,700
enough that they can bring me my
hard seltzers. Yeah, dogs never

630
00:40:17,700 --> 00:40:17,880
do.

631
00:40:18,420 --> 00:40:23,060
No, the dogs, they really don't,
but they're darn cute. So next

632
00:40:23,060 --> 00:40:29,060
gen NYC watching the show this
week, thinking about all the

633
00:40:29,060 --> 00:40:32,180
Intel, because we've gotten
quite a bit about that show. But

634
00:40:32,420 --> 00:40:37,040
there was one piece that said
you're gonna fall in love with

635
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:41,920
Ariana Bierman. She's the
breakout star of next gen NYC,

636
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:46,420
and you and I are both very
we're very skeptical about that,

637
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:50,920
but now that we've seen her in a
few episodes, tell me what you

638
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:51,400
think.

639
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:56,500
I love her. She has the star
quality of Kim with a more level

640
00:40:56,500 --> 00:41:00,100
head, but she's not afraid to
back down, like the fact when

641
00:41:00,100 --> 00:41:02,700
Ava made that comment, and it
got back to her, and she just

642
00:41:02,700 --> 00:41:06,420
barreled over. And she was like,
What the hell? And it wasn't in

643
00:41:06,420 --> 00:41:10,260
a mean way. It was very honest.
She didn't back down from it,

644
00:41:10,260 --> 00:41:14,880
and not for anything. Eva dash,
so they're all the same age. Ava

645
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:19,800
dash, to me, would be
intimidating, whether or not her

646
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:23,900
father is currently bankrupt.
She is hip hop royalties. She is

647
00:41:23,900 --> 00:41:28,700
fashion royalty. She is a mover
and a shaker in the New York

648
00:41:28,700 --> 00:41:35,180
City scene for people that age.
So Ariana is new to Manhattan.

649
00:41:35,180 --> 00:41:37,760
She's just getting to know these
people. And she wasn't at all

650
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:43,300
intimidated, and just went over
and handled it. I really was

651
00:41:43,300 --> 00:41:48,520
like, this girl is good. I kind
of agree with Charlie and that

652
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:51,880
she when he said she's
unexpectedly, really lovable. I

653
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:55,420
don't agree that when he says he
wants to bang her, it's like,

654
00:41:55,780 --> 00:41:59,440
Charlie, have a little bit of
couth. Is that the word couth?

655
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,940
Couth? Yeah. Who's I don't know
if unexpected is the right word,

656
00:42:03,420 --> 00:42:07,980
but okay, like G is fine, but
she's not all that interesting.

657
00:42:08,100 --> 00:42:12,060
Arianne is interesting. She has
layers to her, and I'm just

658
00:42:12,060 --> 00:42:12,420
really

659
00:42:12,420 --> 00:42:18,300
enjoying her well and unpacking
that whole statement about Ava

660
00:42:18,300 --> 00:42:20,840
saying, Well, I wouldn't expect
you to have a fashion line,

661
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:25,100
which is was totally a dig, and
Ariana was right to stand up for

662
00:42:25,100 --> 00:42:30,020
herself, like, who can't have a
fashion line these days? Because

663
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:35,360
Ariana has a following. I'm sure
she's growing it quite a bit,

664
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:40,220
and she also has a show. Why
couldn't she? And if anybody's

665
00:42:40,220 --> 00:42:44,260
gonna kind of figure it out, I
can see her doing it, because I

666
00:42:44,260 --> 00:42:48,280
agree with you. She does have
this kind of star quality, but

667
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:52,360
without the delusion, right? She
seems like to have her feet

668
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:56,620
pretty firmly planted on the
ground. And the other thing I

669
00:42:56,620 --> 00:43:02,760
really like too is that she is
not letting her boyfriend pay

670
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:06,360
for everything that she wants to
contribute on the apartment and

671
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:10,800
that she wants to work and she
wants to do these things, so

672
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:13,980
she's being really smart,
because you can't hit yourself

673
00:43:13,980 --> 00:43:17,460
to something that might not work
out. And it also makes her a

674
00:43:17,460 --> 00:43:20,600
more honest person, because she
doesn't just need to be with him

675
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:24,020
because he has money. It also
was so honest when she said,

676
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:27,260
like, to I believe Riley in the
bathroom, she's like, I'm just

677
00:43:27,260 --> 00:43:29,540
trying to, like, put something
out, like a street, wear a line,

678
00:43:29,540 --> 00:43:32,600
like, I have bills to pay. I
have to help my parents. Like,

679
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:35,720
why the hell would she talk shit
about it? Like, what does she

680
00:43:35,780 --> 00:43:39,800
know? Yeah, in other words,
she's like, I'm not claiming

681
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:43,840
that Vogue is going to be
calling me up to do a spread,

682
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,480
but like, why can't I make some
sweatshirts and some jeans and

683
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:49,720
some street wear? Like, shut the
hell up. Ava Dash. And also,

684
00:43:49,900 --> 00:43:53,320
granted, she's, which we now
know, because it's come out,

685
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:57,580
that Dame dash is not very
weird, because he they, he

686
00:43:57,580 --> 00:44:00,840
presented himself as, like this
big top dog still while they

687
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,780
were filming. And then August
2024 if you Google it, he

688
00:44:03,780 --> 00:44:07,320
announced he's bankrupt. So that
was a little odd timing. But in

689
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:10,860
Ariana, his mind, she sees her
as the daughter of a famous,

690
00:44:10,860 --> 00:44:14,640
wealthy fashion designer and a
famous, wealthy rat mogul. And

691
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:17,220
so she's like, you're gonna
knock me for trying to make some

692
00:44:17,220 --> 00:44:20,340
sweatshirts and make a few bucks
to help my parents and myself.

693
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:20,960
And

694
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:28,460
how ironic that turns out Ava
and Ariana now have something in

695
00:44:28,460 --> 00:44:32,660
common, yeah, you know, with a
good second season, because I

696
00:44:32,660 --> 00:44:36,860
looked it up, Damon Dash has a
network worth of $100,000

697
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:42,760
which, what even is that, yeah,
like, he can't own a condo in

698
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:44,740
New York because nothing in New
York is worth, oh,

699
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:48,520
dollars. Of course not. Yeah, I
do believe

700
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:51,700
Rachel Roy has money, so she may
not be in exactly the same

701
00:44:51,700 --> 00:44:53,980
situation, but to be fair, I
really don't know much about

702
00:44:53,980 --> 00:44:55,060
Rachel Roy, so maybe,

703
00:44:55,060 --> 00:44:59,920
yeah, okay, so and I loved
Ariana his line. She was like.

704
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:04,140
Get what was it? Ava with the
bitch ass attitude, which was

705
00:45:04,140 --> 00:45:07,800
purely a reference to Becky with
the good hair. She said it in

706
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,680
the same cadence too, like, you
know, perfect. It was good. It

707
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:15,540
was good. Okay, so we do have a
little more tea about next gen.

708
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:21,080
So a couple of things that we've
gotten subject next gen, NYC,

709
00:45:21,140 --> 00:45:27,860
peacock expansion, anon please,
and all is alleged. But heard

710
00:45:27,860 --> 00:45:32,120
this from someone reliable at
Peacock, hearing that next gen

711
00:45:32,180 --> 00:45:37,040
NYC season two is happening and
moving to peacock. There's also

712
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:41,020
talk about launching another
city. La and Miami are in the

713
00:45:41,020 --> 00:45:46,180
mix, but weirdly, London has
also come up, which my aside, we

714
00:45:46,180 --> 00:45:49,540
have been hearing that it says,
I'm not sure who would be in it,

715
00:45:49,540 --> 00:45:53,500
but it's being floated as for
NYC. It sounds like mostly cast

716
00:45:53,500 --> 00:45:58,000
is staying, but there might be a
few changes, nothing drastic,

717
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:01,740
just a bit of a shake up. Also
hearing whispers that a couple

718
00:46:01,740 --> 00:46:05,820
people who dropped out last
minute for season one might

719
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:11,040
finally show up this time. And
it says in parentheses, Ming Lee

720
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:15,000
Simmons, not confirmed, but it's
definitely being discussed.

721
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:19,020
Expect and next gen NYC season
two to start filming in the

722
00:46:19,020 --> 00:46:23,420
early fall. So yeah. Just to

723
00:46:23,420 --> 00:46:28,040
add on to that, Ming Lee Simmons
is doing a reality show with her

724
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:30,620
mom, which I guess doesn't
preclude her from popping up in

725
00:46:30,620 --> 00:46:34,820
a few episodes of this. Yeah,
but then let's read the next

726
00:46:34,820 --> 00:46:38,360
one, because this so, by the
way, okay, wait, read the next

727
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:39,020
one, and then I'll

728
00:46:39,020 --> 00:46:44,020
say it okay. It says I could
totally see next gen LA with

729
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:51,280
Noelle Robinson, who is Cynthia
daughter Sophia Umansky, Kyle

730
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:54,700
and Mauricio daughter Amelia
gray Hamlin, Lisa Reynolds,

731
00:46:54,700 --> 00:47:00,480
daughter Alabama Barker, who is
Travis Barker and Courtney

732
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:06,600
Kardashian, stepdaughter, Dixie,
demilio Mason, Cibrian, who is

733
00:47:06,900 --> 00:47:13,020
Brandy glail's Son, Gavin
Nassif, who is Adriana Malouf.

734
00:47:13,020 --> 00:47:15,480
So I'm adding the who these
people belong to, by the way,

735
00:47:15,780 --> 00:47:19,920
Nicholas Dubrow, who is Terry
and Heather Dubrow, son, and a

736
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:25,160
few more familiar influencer
faces. LA is the Nepo baby

737
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:30,680
capital. So I picture this as a
true all star cast, unlike next

738
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:34,220
gen NYC, which cast some randoms
like Georgia and Charlie, the LA

739
00:47:34,220 --> 00:47:38,840
version would most likely focus
entirely on well known names or

740
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:42,760
kids of celebrities. But it's
coming soon, and will be on

741
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:46,540
peacock along with NYC season
two, I assume.

742
00:47:47,260 --> 00:47:51,460
Okay, I have so many thoughts.
First, I want to say we received

743
00:47:51,460 --> 00:47:54,820
both of these emails before
Cynthia Bailey and Adrian Maloof

744
00:47:54,820 --> 00:47:58,000
were on Jeff Jeff Lewis live,
and they said that both their

745
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:02,520
kids were approached, bam. I was
like, Okay, so these emails have

746
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:05,700
legitimacy. And I also would
like to point out that all of

747
00:48:05,700 --> 00:48:09,540
our next gen emails from when we
first heard they were filming

748
00:48:09,660 --> 00:48:13,560
have been truthful. I'm not
saying every word and every

749
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:16,260
person mentioned was on it,
because we know that those

750
00:48:16,260 --> 00:48:20,480
things change, but they were all
they all lined up, so I trust

751
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:25,460
this intel. The other thing I
want to say is I'm gonna put

752
00:48:25,460 --> 00:48:29,420
some respect on Charlie and
George's names, LA and New York

753
00:48:29,420 --> 00:48:34,100
City are very different places.
Okay, so while this email says

754
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:38,180
randoms like George Georgia and
Charlie, see in LA, you're

755
00:48:38,180 --> 00:48:42,340
legit. If you're a Nepo baby in
New York City, you're legit if

756
00:48:42,340 --> 00:48:44,620
you're born and raised in New
York City and are either

757
00:48:44,620 --> 00:48:47,680
successful or the child of
somebody wealthy, right? The

758
00:48:47,740 --> 00:48:51,220
celebrity, while it's a thing. I
mean, we know this from Gossip

759
00:48:51,220 --> 00:48:54,580
Girl, somebody like Charlie,
who's the son of a hedge fund

760
00:48:54,580 --> 00:48:58,540
and went to all those fancy
private schools, is on the same

761
00:48:58,540 --> 00:49:04,380
tier as Ava dash or Riley
Burris, because in New York,

762
00:49:04,380 --> 00:49:08,100
it's the financial capital of
the world that is highly valued

763
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:11,880
in the way that LA celebrity is
the most highly valued thing. So

764
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:14,520
I don't want to say that they're
randoms. I think that it's just

765
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:18,120
a matter of two different cities
and different things working.

766
00:49:18,660 --> 00:49:23,900
I'm obsessed with the La idea.
Obsessed with it. I think it's

767
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:29,720
awesome. I'll take any of these
names given London, yes, please.

768
00:49:29,720 --> 00:49:34,340
Like, do you know how cool it
would be to watch 20 somethings

769
00:49:34,340 --> 00:49:37,580
in London? Because I have no
freaking idea. Like, we know

770
00:49:37,580 --> 00:49:40,840
about New York. We know about LA
because we're American, so,

771
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:43,840
like, we know, okay, LA is gonna
be the celebrities. New York is

772
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:47,740
gonna be like the hedge fund
kids, the artsy kids, the

773
00:49:47,740 --> 00:49:51,040
celebrity kids, right? What the
hell is London gonna be? I wanna

774
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:52,300
know. Hopefully

775
00:49:52,300 --> 00:49:57,820
we've got some royal adjacent
people. But I also think what I

776
00:49:57,820 --> 00:50:02,520
find to be so interesting.
Saying about Georgia is that

777
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:07,140
she's really struggling and
working hard to make it, and

778
00:50:07,140 --> 00:50:09,900
that is a story I never get
tired of watching,

779
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:13,200
but that's the story of New York
City, and in the same way that

780
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:18,540
like see LA has that story, but
in LA, the culmination is that

781
00:50:18,540 --> 00:50:23,840
you're a successful actor in New
York the culmination isn't

782
00:50:23,900 --> 00:50:27,620
always wealth, it's status,
right? So the fact that Georgia,

783
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:30,560
who grew up in New York City
middle class, it's like the

784
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:36,020
boyfriend on Gossip Girl Dan,
like, the fact that he went to

785
00:50:36,020 --> 00:50:38,720
that school on scholarship and
was able to be at the parties

786
00:50:38,720 --> 00:50:42,580
with those kids, he was one of
them. So, like, that's what it

787
00:50:42,700 --> 00:50:47,560
is, where as, yeah, so she is
very much a New York story.

788
00:50:52,420 --> 00:50:56,140
I like it. And, you know, it's
all you mentioned that we've

789
00:50:56,140 --> 00:51:00,840
been getting a lot of stuff on
next gen. And I want to remind

790
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:06,420
you guys, we also got an email
saying that NBCU is really like

791
00:51:06,420 --> 00:51:11,700
looking at next gen as the next
big housewives franchise. So of

792
00:51:11,700 --> 00:51:17,760
course, they're going to move on
and build on the success of NYC,

793
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:21,740
and then expect, I think LA does
make sense. And we have been

794
00:51:21,740 --> 00:51:27,380
hearing London so and you know,
for other reasons, seeing this,

795
00:51:27,380 --> 00:51:32,360
like seeing seeing these people
figuring life out, and getting

796
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:34,760
into their career, starting
their companies, all of that

797
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:38,060
stuff, I think, is interesting,
no matter what city we're in.

798
00:51:38,540 --> 00:51:43,180
Bravo is also a business.
Peacock is a business, so let's

799
00:51:43,180 --> 00:51:48,460
look at the network. And I'm not
talking about ratings, right?

800
00:51:48,460 --> 00:51:55,240
I'm talking about whom on their
shows has the most success in

801
00:51:55,240 --> 00:52:01,860
the Bethany kind of lane. It is
Paige, it is Kyle, it is Craig.

802
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:06,720
It is Sierra Amanda Petula,
because they're of a younger

803
00:52:06,720 --> 00:52:10,560
generation that has it is
Lindsey that has figured out how

804
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:16,020
to monetize social media. You
know, you don't see the Dorinda

805
00:52:16,020 --> 00:52:18,960
Teresa's doing that, because
it's a little bit more foreign

806
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:21,380
to them. You see them doing
their appearances and stuff,

807
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:25,280
these brand deals and all of
that. So long as the network is

808
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:29,540
getting a cut, they're going to
focus and put their energies and

809
00:52:29,540 --> 00:52:34,580
monies into these kids like Ava,
like Ariana, who are going to

810
00:52:34,580 --> 00:52:35,840
create brands

811
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:39,200
that they're going to get a cut
of. I completely agree

812
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:42,340
business. I told you guys this
before, one of my sources is

813
00:52:42,340 --> 00:52:45,700
like, be always follow the
money, and they're feeling on

814
00:52:45,940 --> 00:52:49,360
the next gen. Thing is exactly
what I just said. Like, these

815
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:53,980
kids are profitable. Absolutely
kids, if you get a cut of one of

816
00:52:53,980 --> 00:52:57,400
these kids podcasts, who's
listening to podcasts, my dad

817
00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:00,520
doesn't listen to podcasts. My
aunts, who are in their 50s and

818
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:03,780
60s, aren't as inclined to
listen to podcasts. To podcasts

819
00:53:03,780 --> 00:53:07,320
kids, it's people don't even
turn on the radio, exactly. And

820
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:11,220
so if you get a cut of Ava and
Ariana his podcast, you're

821
00:53:11,220 --> 00:53:14,580
chilling. Bravo. The network I'm
saying is, you know what I'm

822
00:53:14,580 --> 00:53:19,020
saying. So this is all long
term. Everything evolves, and I

823
00:53:19,020 --> 00:53:22,040
think that this is where it's
going. And I think that there'll

824
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:24,860
always be a place for the
housewife shows, of course, and

825
00:53:24,860 --> 00:53:28,580
there'll always be people on the
show, like Bethany who do it,

826
00:53:28,580 --> 00:53:31,040
but it won't be like summer
house, where essentially

827
00:53:31,100 --> 00:53:35,900
everyone on there now West
Jesse, Paige, I mean, like every

828
00:53:35,900 --> 00:53:41,620
one of them has monetized in a
way that also younger people,

829
00:53:41,620 --> 00:53:44,320
yes, Nepo babies have some
establishment, but younger

830
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:46,840
people, like a lot of the
housewives historically, have

831
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:50,020
had successful businesses like
Vicky, where Bravo wasn't

832
00:53:50,020 --> 00:53:50,920
entitled to a cut.

833
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:55,840
This is making my mind race on a
couple levels. One interesting

834
00:53:55,960 --> 00:54:00,600
the timing of when Paige
announced her new brand right

835
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:01,260
after

836
00:54:01,620 --> 00:54:06,360
and I note, I hear she's not
interested in a spin off. So my

837
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:10,080
feeling on that, I think that
that girl has so many options

838
00:54:10,260 --> 00:54:13,740
being presented to her, and I
think that she loves being on

839
00:54:13,740 --> 00:54:16,920
TV. I don't believe she's going
to want to do a reality in the

840
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:20,540
way of them, like seeing her
real inside track life. That's

841
00:54:20,540 --> 00:54:21,140
my feeling.

842
00:54:21,380 --> 00:54:25,940
Yeah, I agree. The other thing
that also kind of underlines

843
00:54:25,940 --> 00:54:30,980
this for me is I was on peacock
last night, and just like

844
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:35,540
looking at some of the previews,
and they're doing a show for

845
00:54:35,540 --> 00:54:40,480
love is blind, but the people
who like after the life, and so

846
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:43,660
they all live in LA and there's
like a reality show, and they

847
00:54:43,660 --> 00:54:47,200
show them in the preview going
to something about her. I'm

848
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:51,400
like, Duh, that makes sense. Of
course, they're gonna continue

849
00:54:51,460 --> 00:54:55,540
to promote something about her,
because I'm sure there's a

850
00:54:55,540 --> 00:54:56,620
Bethany clause there.

851
00:54:57,100 --> 00:54:59,920
And Ariana said, when they asked
her, would she be on the new.

852
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:03,000
Vanderpump like the spin off
with the new kids. She's like,

853
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:05,640
listen, am I filming a scene
with the new kids in the alley?

854
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:08,940
Absolutely not. She goes, but
they want to come over to

855
00:55:08,940 --> 00:55:11,700
something about her for lunch.
Will me and Katie be there and

856
00:55:11,700 --> 00:55:14,760
serve them the sandwiches and
chit chat with them? Yeah, why

857
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:15,840
not? You know,

858
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:19,080
sign the West heart business
woman,

859
00:55:19,500 --> 00:55:23,180
because I think we're gonna save
the valley in Atlanta for

860
00:55:23,180 --> 00:55:28,520
cocktail. But I have to touch on
this. Schwartz and Lala see

861
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:33,740
this. Yeah, they're friends. We
all know this. He was recently

862
00:55:33,740 --> 00:55:38,540
on her pod or vice versa, and
the clip starts circulating

863
00:55:38,540 --> 00:55:42,640
because she said that if she had
to, I don't know if it was like,

864
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:45,460
pick a baby daddy or whatever.
She would pick him because he's

865
00:55:45,460 --> 00:55:48,220
nice, whatever. And he was like,
oh, you know, like, I consider

866
00:55:48,220 --> 00:55:50,320
you're such a good friend.
Whatever. They had a nice little

867
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:54,340
chat. And you could see they're
both, like, enjoy each other. So

868
00:55:54,340 --> 00:55:58,240
somebody writes in the comments.
They come to my cafe all the

869
00:55:58,240 --> 00:56:00,900
time. They're seeing each other,
and he always picks up her

870
00:56:00,900 --> 00:56:05,340
check. And I'm like, Okay, first
of all, I highly doubt that

871
00:56:05,340 --> 00:56:07,260
they're together all the time,
because they said we don't see

872
00:56:07,260 --> 00:56:09,300
each other that much, but when
we do, it's always the best

873
00:56:09,300 --> 00:56:13,560
time. And if somebody were to
spot them at a bistro, Schwartz

874
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:16,200
very much. Seems like the kind
of guy that would pick up the

875
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:21,260
bill for his friend if they had
a whatever lunch. Yeah, my

876
00:56:21,260 --> 00:56:26,420
question is, okay, I don't hate
the idea of Schwartz and Lala. I

877
00:56:26,420 --> 00:56:30,800
think he likes a strong woman,
and I think that maybe Lala

878
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:35,540
hasn't publicly dated anybody
since Randall. And I think that

879
00:56:35,540 --> 00:56:39,980
maybe Lala would be open to
dating somebody softer.

880
00:56:40,460 --> 00:56:43,960
I'm just sitting here in my head
trying to picture them kissing.

881
00:56:44,260 --> 00:56:48,100
I'm having a hard time with
that, not because I don't and

882
00:56:48,100 --> 00:56:53,440
like, and I'm also thinking, I'm
like, does this break girl code,

883
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:57,760
which, well, so that was like,
when I pulled it, and a lot of

884
00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:00,660
people pointed out her and Katie
aren't I think, in a way, I

885
00:57:00,660 --> 00:57:04,320
think it more breaks like, I
think it's more messed up on

886
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:07,440
Schwartz's behalf to go with
Lala. I think Lala and Katie

887
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:11,700
were, at their best moment,
friends. They were never tight,

888
00:57:12,300 --> 00:57:17,340
and certainly now they don't
speak. I think for Katie it

889
00:57:17,340 --> 00:57:20,900
would be like, really like
somebody from our group, but

890
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:24,200
Katie is completely moved on and
very much in love with her new

891
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:28,100
boyfriend, right? So it kind of,
I think it would cause her and

892
00:57:28,100 --> 00:57:30,740
Schwartz to not really have much
of a relationship, but I don't

893
00:57:30,740 --> 00:57:34,040
think that Katie would be
heartbroken. If that makes

894
00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:34,460
sense,

895
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:39,620
I was gonna say, If Katie gave
her blessing, then I would say

896
00:57:39,620 --> 00:57:40,460
it's all on.

897
00:57:40,580 --> 00:57:42,820
I don't know so much as give her
blessing.

898
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:47,380
Let's not get crazy. Who knows?
Who knows? Who knows? I don't

899
00:57:47,380 --> 00:57:48,880
think Lala would ask for it,

900
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:51,700
but do I think you're actually
dating? No, because a lot of you

901
00:57:51,700 --> 00:57:54,400
guys are asking after I reposted
that comment, no, I don't think

902
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:57,880
they're actually dating. I don't
know if Lala would be

903
00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:01,920
interested, or if shorts would
be interested in dating, la, la

904
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:05,400
seriously, but I'm saying I
don't think it's the worst idea,

905
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:07,980
and I'm totally expecting all
the DM saying that I lost my

906
00:58:07,980 --> 00:58:09,060
mind, but I don't know,

907
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:13,800
before we sign off, I did want
to address one more thing that I

908
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:16,740
forgot to talk about when we
were talking business at the top

909
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:21,800
we put in the newsletter Last
week. Hey, everyone's talking

910
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:25,460
about love is blind on social
media. Is this something that we

911
00:58:25,460 --> 00:58:30,140
should be talking about? And I
have to tell you guys, we got

912
00:58:30,140 --> 00:58:33,800
more no votes than yes votes,
which I was sort of relieved

913
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:36,680
once I learned how much catching
up we were gonna have to do. I

914
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:36,920
don't

915
00:58:37,940 --> 00:58:41,380
do dating shows like I did love
hotel, but that's different. I

916
00:58:41,380 --> 00:58:44,500
don't do dating shows with
people I'm not already invested

917
00:58:44,500 --> 00:58:48,760
in. Yeah, because I don't think
that they're legitimate. I

918
00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:51,160
understand the draw and why
people like them. But, like, I

919
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:54,280
never watched The Bachelor. I
watched, like, the first Trista

920
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:57,100
and Ryan. I actually think I
just watched the bachelorette

921
00:58:57,220 --> 00:59:01,560
one. I just at this point, like,
20 years into it, to me, it's

922
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:05,220
just people who want to get on
TV. And I can tell you that

923
00:59:05,220 --> 00:59:07,500
gorgeous bartender I met in
Nashville, shout out to

924
00:59:07,500 --> 00:59:10,800
Mitchell. He said to me, I was
like, why wouldn't you do

925
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:13,560
reality TV? And he's like, the
only things I've ever been

926
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:18,480
approached with are love Island
and bachelor, like, all those

927
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:21,740
kind of things. Because he's so
good looking. Obviously he's

928
00:59:21,740 --> 00:59:24,080
like, and I'm not really
interested in that, because I'm

929
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:27,140
not looking to meet somebody
that way, and whatever.

930
00:59:27,380 --> 00:59:30,080
Yeah, I don't know I and I
understand I stopped watching

931
00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:34,280
The Bachelor I like, but I liked
bachelor I like Bachelor in

932
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:41,140
Paradise. I still love. Love is
blind, and definitely, I'm very

933
00:59:41,140 --> 00:59:44,860
in to that show because it's, it
is very different.

934
00:59:44,980 --> 00:59:48,400
It is I watched, I watched the
first one, and like, I've

935
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:51,940
watched the you know what I do
with that? I watched the last

936
00:59:51,940 --> 00:59:54,160
end episodes, because I kind of
like the end to see who they

937
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:56,320
pick. Like, I watched a couple
of the beginning and then a

938
00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:58,600
couple of the end. I don't mind.
Love is blind.

939
00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:01,260
I could, you know, though I
don't. Think I've told you this

940
01:00:01,260 --> 01:00:07,200
my, like, new favorite show that
is not Bravo, is love on the

941
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:08,040
spectrum.

942
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:11,340
So many people have recommended
that I'd be down to get into

943
01:00:11,340 --> 01:00:14,100
that after I watch your Gilded
Age, there's

944
01:00:14,100 --> 01:00:17,520
like, a little bit of sex, like
a little bit of sex talk, but

945
01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:21,440
like, very little. It's very
wholesome, very sweet. It's

946
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:25,280
literally the show that, like,
we turn on after we've watched

947
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:29,240
something scary, or if we want,
like, right before bed, because

948
01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:33,440
it's just such a sweet it's such
a good show. And the Gilded Age,

949
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:35,300
you got me, I'm gonna start it.

950
01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:39,380
No, Grandma, you gotten me
hooked. Like, literally,

951
01:00:39,740 --> 01:00:43,780
collectively, my family, my
husband and my kids were like,

952
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:47,320
Wait, there's another show.
Because, you know, I watch so

953
01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:50,020
much. Bravo. I'm like, I will
find time for it. I swear it

954
01:00:50,020 --> 01:00:53,380
won't cut into our family time.
But thankfully, my husband

955
01:00:53,380 --> 01:00:58,660
watches a lot of sports, and my
kids have their stupid videos

956
01:00:58,660 --> 01:01:00,960
they watch. But you know what
I'm watching with my daughter is

957
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:03,780
the new season of the Dallas
Cowboys, because she loves, you

958
01:01:03,780 --> 01:01:07,080
know, she loves cheerleading,
and she's a little cheerer,

959
01:01:07,500 --> 01:01:10,800
yeah. Oh, and you know what
other show just came on that I

960
01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:13,380
know you likes, too, is Jenny
and Georgia

961
01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:18,600
love I watch. So my daughter and
I almost said her name are like

962
01:01:18,660 --> 01:01:23,420
alternating one night we're
doing Dallas, I don't I'm only a

963
01:01:23,420 --> 01:01:26,060
couple episodes into the Ginny
in Georgia. I'm not loving it. I

964
01:01:26,060 --> 01:01:28,700
don't want to spoil it if you
guys haven't started, but it's

965
01:01:28,700 --> 01:01:31,040
kind of like her being in the
house all the time is a little

966
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:32,060
Ah,

967
01:01:32,300 --> 01:01:34,940
okay, I haven't watched it. I
kind of forgot I

968
01:01:34,940 --> 01:01:37,760
love her, the actress, like
she's just so cute and that big

969
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:42,400
smile and she's so funny. But I
don't know if this is perverted,

970
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:45,580
but Ginny's boyfriend, I can't
take him. He's so cute. How old

971
01:01:45,580 --> 01:01:48,760
is he? Oh, he's so freaking
cute.

972
01:01:49,300 --> 01:01:52,960
Ah, okay, I that's another one.
He's eight. My daughter started

973
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:54,640
watching it without me. I'm
like, Ah,

974
01:01:55,060 --> 01:01:57,520
I know they're like, old enough
to do that now today, I know

975
01:01:57,520 --> 01:02:01,740
that little Rubble we love.
Thanks everybody, and please

976
01:02:01,740 --> 01:02:01,980
keep the

977
01:02:01,980 --> 01:02:05,220
feedback coming on the website,
because the whole point is to

978
01:02:05,220 --> 01:02:07,200
make it like where you guys want
to hang out

979
01:02:07,740 --> 01:02:08,460
exactly

980
01:02:08,940 --> 01:02:11,400
till next time Bye.

981
01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:22,760
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982
01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:26,240
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