The Real Report - Kid Capri on battling Funk Flex, touring with Biggie & R.Kelly, DJs being undervalued, & working with Kendrick Lamar

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Speaker 1: What I'm talking. Hold on, hold on, I want to say something.

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Speaker 2: No hold on, no no no no no no no no no no no you no you you listen.

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Speaker 1: Hold hold up, pause paused. Super Paul bruises from out. Yeah. It as good as the Boy Live Jet Lenny a k A Uncle Murder and it's turbulent as Tony a k A. Tony Yayo. She's the real report.

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Speaker 3: And we have the number on one worldwide d J out world.

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Speaker 1: It's the kid. What's happening, what's going on? What's happening? Legend?

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Speaker 4: Man?

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Speaker 1: Happy to have you here? Man, Happy to have you here.

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Speaker 5: Man, glad to be here, Man, glad to be here.

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Speaker 1: Yo, were glad to have you here. Man. You know you you a pillar and hip hop.

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Speaker 3: You know, we was backstage talking about case Slay and you know sometimes people do only give you flowers when you're going, you know, God like you.

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Speaker 1: We're going to give your flowers now while you hear you know what I'm saying. That's why we did some business.

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Speaker 3: Mark shout to my man Dre shout to the guarding the Dreams, the whole Knicks Foundation, and you know, Kick Capri is the type of dude that he's he what what? What people don't need to know is he doesn't only DJ. He raps, he produces and he makes speechs. So we gave a song to the New York Knicks, me and my man Dre. They love Kick Capri. He's a legend and live from New York is playing on the make some noise for that playing.

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Speaker 1: Make some noise going on, Jim.

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Speaker 3: So what I'm saying to you is he's not a one trick pony. You know, he's like a Kanye West. He's like a Q tip.

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Speaker 1: You know. He produces and he wraps. He's like a Havoc. He does a lot.

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Speaker 6: You ain't telling me nothing. I don't ready know about Kick Capri, but I could tell you something. You don't know what what?

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Speaker 3: What is one of the infamous clubs that he used to DJ at in the Bronx is too name one.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, all right, So we're gonna talk about that one of.

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Speaker 3: The most and you know back in the eighties, shout to the Bronx, it's still that.

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Speaker 1: That must have just been talking about this a little while ago.

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Speaker 3: No, No, we didn't talk about all right, snow Kickingprika. So back in the you know, back in the you know. But in the eighties, the Bronx was dangerous. It's still dangerous now shouting definitely. We love y'all though I love to be you know what I'm saying, But make it safe again, so come in, you know. So the Bronx in the eighties, DJ, Kick Capri DJ see. I don't even know what these niggas don't. They don't be knowing nothing.

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Speaker 1: I don't even either, Okay, I'm talking about.

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Speaker 3: DJ Ki Capri DJ at a club called a Castle right now. Jim don't even know this the so called real.

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Speaker 1: No, Jim don't know that. That's Capri right hand man wasn't around there. He wasn't around there. This Jim don't notice. Don't I know this is right here? Man, don't that's crazy.

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Speaker 3: So the thing about the Castle is like in the eighties, that's like the infamous times. Like just picture the Bronx in the eighties, the biggest gangsters, the biggest drug dealers. Kick Capri was DJ in there, like it was so infamous. Not trying to promote it. But the rumor is that even Slick Rick got shot outside of the Castle back in the days, got shot in his eye.

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Speaker 1: Like it's an infamous club. In the other club, he did.

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Speaker 5: Get shotter get shot. They shot at him. And if I'm not mistaken, I think you had a girl in the truck and she got grades in the side. They had cheesed up the truck, if I'm not mistaken. But yeah, it was, it was. It was a crazy time in the Castle.

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Speaker 3: Man talk about that, Man talk about that, because that's eighties hip hop, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 5: Well that that was when we started to Castle. Castle was like ninety maybe.

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Speaker 2: It was.

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Speaker 1: Eight tonight, So yeah, so there.

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Speaker 5: You know, before that, it was the sn S club. S S Club was really where I started getting known at because that's where in the sn S Club is. You know, you're nothing to glorify, but it was the most killers and drug people in street people that you ever could meet, the top that you ever meet. And they were all there at one place. And so I'm sitting in this place looking at the steak, you know, spending a year and a half day, I've seen a lot. After left there, I started playing, you know, doing the Castle and doing uh I was doing the Castle at the same time, but then doing the Castle and doing the building downtown doing my New York thing and then started going out of town the mixtape things. What really took off me When I took off, it was like I was a soundtrack to the drug dealers.

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Speaker 1: They shot at Slick recall that he didn't get hit that day. No he didn't get Okay, you went back to Slick.

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Speaker 3: No, No, I'm saying because I mean, I think somebody said he got shot in the eye.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to know if it was. It wasn't there though.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I know, but he got his car got shot up. So now I'm visualizing Slick Rick, you know, with the jewelry on in the Bronx.

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Speaker 5: Rick will be by itself.

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. Called the whole with all the jewelry on, and call the whole.

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Speaker 5: Team with dudes peasants.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: He was was that was like you know what I'm saying. And you know, I think he might have did that in that in the castle, and you know it was to these dudes.

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Speaker 1: That was the kids that was up at the Bronx see and.

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Speaker 5: It just jumped up. But nothing happened to Rick.

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Speaker 3: He just shot the whip up. Sure, he got grades with some gangster ship was going. He had Old Julio slipper Old ju.

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Speaker 1: You see that.

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Speaker 6: He talked so fast, like he know what happens now. He's like, yo, yeah, nigga shut up the whip so he got grades. You just told him like you just told him like you already know. He had niggas that shut up the whip so he got grades. He just thought the nigga, look, let's keep it real murdering. When she happened in the hood, you hear five different stories. I heard the fifth story.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 1: He got shut in.

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Speaker 6: With his story so fast. Yes, shot the whip, so he got grades. My niggas say, he don't even know she got grace. He said, he think. You know, I like read when he came in the game with.

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Speaker 1: The I pads. Oh that was.

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Speaker 3: But the car got shot up. So he called niggas preasidts slick rich out to slick Rick. I can see him doing that. You know, crazy murkers. We got kicked pre the legend that does this worldwide. You know, talk about some of the places you've been in the world.

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Speaker 5: I've been all over man. I just well, I mean Houston, I just got back from Houston yesterday.

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Speaker 1: But I've been everywhere.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 5: I just came out from Africa. That was really crazy. I came mat from Mexico with a Swiss beasts and these kids.

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Speaker 1: That was really big. Look at that.

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Speaker 5: I've been all fifty two states. At one time. I was doing two undred fifty shows of the year every year. First dude in hip hop to own the tour bus. So that's how much I was traveling.

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Speaker 1: So I told you, he's so cocky.

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Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. It's the truth that traveling so much with.

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Speaker 1: Fifteen soldier boy would have said though.

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Speaker 5: But it was. He was traveling with fifteen crates of records on the plane all over. We just got tired of paying all that money and you know, wait and all that. So we just said, we buy a tour bus. This way we could travel and everything will be safe. And that's what we did. But we was just going and going, and after the pandemic, when the pandemic came was starting to leave, they started calling me to go back on the road, and you know, I told the manager, like, look, I ain't doing on the dates that we.

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Speaker 3: Would say that again, fifteen crates you hit him. DJ e Crazs rest in peace to my man, DJ Roffians Man, So that's why about how many clubs you did that got shot up and somebody got to get the creeks.

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Speaker 5: Well, none of my clubs, I'm just saying that something happened. None of my never had none of joint.

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Speaker 3: Back in the days, my man Roughians, we're going to hold other joints. You okay, man, we would do the club ship in Queens. Did we get shot up and we got to get the fifteen club?

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Speaker 5: And yeah, Fortunately at none of my parties, I keep people occupied, so none of that ship happens. It when it's when it's when everybody standing around, get a chance to look at each other. Nobody's being busy. When you keep everybody busy, you can step up somebody's foot and ain't no problem. But it's when everybody's in there and they're on their phone and looking at each other and ship pop off. Next thing you know, it goes where it goes. But we don't have that problem. We never had that reputation. Ship happened at my events. You know what I'm saying. My events is my party. We do come to my you don't see people with phones and ship, my ship shaking, and people get lit. The word lit a little confused. They think lit means because it's crowded.

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Speaker 1: Is lit?

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Speaker 5: Now, Yes, it ain't lit. Cloudy, My ship is lit. You come to kicking pre events. Shit's shaky, you know, chick's head falling out, no phones and all that shit. Motherfuckers time, and that's everybody comes from.

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Speaker 3: Classic errors of music, hip hop the culture I mean, you know, to me, the eighties in the nineties was like.

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Speaker 5: But even with the new music, even I could play listen, I could do a whole trap set and that ship is shaking, shaking, shaky, doesn't matter.

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Speaker 6: Look talking about that right, kill all the errors that you've been in from this hip hop in.

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Speaker 1: The eighties, nineties, two thousand.

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Speaker 6: What album you feel like you could play with? No Skips like classic album No.

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Speaker 5: Skips being Rock, Campaign, Full Slick Wick, Great Adventures, fifty Get Rich, Die Trying, Uh, low end theory, Trial called Quest, so many of them, you know what I'm saying. The you know, like you go on and on, so you know, but what happens.

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Speaker 3: Whenever you think is the best Between the eighties, nineties and the two thousand.

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Speaker 5: That's the well, the nineties ain't gonna be like the nineties. None's gonna be.

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Speaker 1: Like over the eighties. Rock Kim, Big Daddy can No. No, I'm not talking about.

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Speaker 5: I'm not talking about as far as I'm talking about as far as like the way hip hop went, you know, it became bigger, but as far as like the beginning of it, and none's gonna be that. You're not gonna beat. Matter of fact, even with records that came out, you ain't gonna be beat the beginning. You're not gonna beat the tapes of Cold Crush and Fantastic and Furious five when there was no rap records, when when you went to the parties and there was just rappers playing break beats and the rapper rapping over the break beat the whole party, and it be the baddest chicks in the party, you know what I'm saying. So that's that's the real ship. They didn't get the accolades that we got later on. They didn't make the money that we made. They didn't see the fame that we've seen. But these are the dudes that built it. Without them, wouldn't have jobs right now, you know, what I'm saying. So that's why the older dudes I always respect. I never look at them as as a down thing. I always look at them as my hero.

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Speaker 1: Of course they started the game. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: So you look at dudes like dudes like Melloy mel dudes like you know what I'm saying, it's just great mcs that you know that that really put it down. You know, they deserve to be put on a pedestal.

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Speaker 1: Not the Bronx started the game, but you know, queens ran the game.

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Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: Get that.

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Speaker 4: I'm on my.

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Speaker 1: Go. Now on another note, right, who's your top five?

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Speaker 5: I don't have no top five?

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Speaker 1: Oh ship? For real?

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Speaker 5: Why you say that? Because what are you talking about? You talking about top five rappers. You're talking about top five fast in the top five records sellers. What are you talking about? Because you're talking about top five rappers. Ain't nobody beating Battle Rappers if you asked me, you know what I'm saying, a lot of the top five rappers, a lot of the rappers that's in the game, get this ship from Battle Rappers. Right, So that's one thing. Secondly, there's people that's in the top five.

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Speaker 1: You say that battle rappers, you have rappers that was doing it.

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Speaker 5: I'm not talking about them. I'm talking about when the day of days right now, a lot of rappers that was rapping a certain way. They listen to battle rappers and now they're rapping that way. And that's the truth, you know what I'm saying. We ain't gonna sugar it for any And he got a lot of a lot of technique from what battle rappers is doing. It's just that battle rappers always had a stigma that they couldn't make good records, you know what I'm saying. So that's why they wasn't really successful in making.

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Speaker 1: Winning the eighty were talking about. We're talking about.

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Speaker 5: Us, right, you know what I'm saying. And and and just to speak to that, I mean, I'm called top tier with all battle rappers. This is when I was trying to help the battle before the battle Rapper thing blew up. I was trying to help them get on this one left. We had shot some things, Me and Lux, load of Lux and a bunch of us, and we did some stuff and then you know it was gonna do this deal with HBO and disibdating. So I made this album called Top Tier that I never put out, but shit is incredible.

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Speaker 1: Never put it out. You know what I'm thinking about? You know what I yeah, I'm gonna get it.

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Speaker 3: We're talking about better rap because you know what I think about battle rap. I think because I'm a fan of Loaded Lux, Murder Move, you know, everybody, DNA. The list goes on and on, even if the female rappers, you know, I love them too. I feel like when you had the battles like Loaded Lux and these guys Murder Move, and these guys were starting to make money, I think, and Smack was making all the money they got kind of you know, they had deals with I think Eminem, right, it was eminem doing the show. So listen when the bag came, they wasn't on YouTube no more so when they was on YouTube, it was like you can catch all the battles.

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Speaker 1: And I think that they.

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Speaker 3: Was making so much money, like to a point where they was making more than rappers saying his ballot because they would say, now for Lord de Luxe, Murder Move, Battle, I need forty thousand, Like now numbers started.

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Speaker 1: Getting like you start doing ridiculous promoters.

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Speaker 3: They're like yo, yeah, battles, and then then you got rappers that you know, like DNA and other rappers, Goods and all these other rappers. They're like, well, fuck it, we won twenty, we went thirty, we won fifteen. No, I'm not saying not. But then it was just less battles. And then you wasn't seeing on YouTube because there was a point where always watching was battle rap cleaning, the ring, the female battle raps. I was watching that. There was a time where that's always watching. But back to kicking free, let's get back.

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Speaker 1: He got into his battle, he got have some battle rappers up here.

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Speaker 5: Couick to go back to your question, asked me who the top five is?

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Speaker 1: All right?

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Speaker 5: So like yeah, like there's there's great mcs, but there's a lot of times out here top five lists and the people that I think that should be in top five isn't. Now I'll tell you, if you're talking about skills, why isn't Twisted in top five? Why isn't eminem and everybody's top five?

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Speaker 1: He is in my top five?

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Speaker 5: Hold on your mind too, but why is it in everybody's top five? But right, so so, so that's what I'm saying it's all.

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Speaker 1: It's all subjected. You may let the brother you made like your he's bugging can't. So you mean to tell me because he's stripping.

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Speaker 4: Him.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you.

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Speaker 3: Look, I'm gonna tell you what's the real If you tell me in the eighties, who's my top five, we're gonna have I'm not and there's no order, we're gonna have Big Daddy came on.

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Speaker 1: That that's in the eight that's ever about? You say top five? Right?

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Speaker 6: You say he's my top five?

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Speaker 1: No, no, we gotta let's put this. Let's put this right. We can rewind it. I don't rewind nothing.

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Speaker 5: If somebody asked me who's my top five and they don't say in whatever, they just say who's my top five, I'm thinking they saying my top five best sim.

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Speaker 1: Seas of all time.

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Speaker 5: If you say who's the top five of the eighties, I'm gonna tell you exactly who's my top five. If you say who's the top five in the nineties, I'm gonna tell you, depending on what you're talking about, record sells or raps, somebod these motherfuckers top five because.

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Speaker 1: Of how they are dressing. They are here modeling. They ain't had to hit.

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Speaker 5: Am I right right, Okay, they getting viraal because I don't first of all, let's do this, I don't want to deal with. First of all, let's go here. I don't want to pay for it. If I'm doing to show us something, I won't pay nobody because they fucking because they poppular. I won't pay because they get the job done. You'll be popular because you tripped over a goddamn rock on TikTok and that them all you virrable, And now they hire you to come in the club and everybody's in the club watching you stand in the ri people like they do with some of the chicks.

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Speaker 1: Right now, I'm paying for somebody who's gonna get the job done.

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Speaker 5: My crowd gonna come the grod, gonna be happy when they pump the They pay their money, and they left with your money.

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Speaker 1: Find the nah. You know different times. Let me.

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Speaker 3: Saying, the mom that got popular on TikTok off that song, we at different times. Finder it's a mother, look it up, type it up, mother that got popular off TikTok song. Everybody knows it. I don't know the song, but we at different times when things are different.

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Speaker 5: I'm not mad at the young Lissten. I'm not mad at the young kid that gets popular of for some dumb ship. That's them that listen. I want them to do good. They're gonna make money from it. But I'm talking about as a grown man. I'm not walking around doing dumb ship to get popular. And now, if I'm gonna work with somebody or pay somebody to come do something, I'm not gonna pay them because they're popular for some dumb shit. I'm gonna pay them because they're gonna get the job that I need done done, period, for whatever time it is. And if you don't like that, don't come. But I want part. I want people to get their money's work when you come. That's why I pay for a DJ to open for a show for me where I go.

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Speaker 1: This is money.

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Speaker 5: I can keep it in my pocket. I don't have to pay for no hotels and planes and all the shit for him. But I want people to get the best show they can. So I don't want to walk in and hear the song three four times. You know what I'm saying. Where a lot of DJ's are coming play the popping shit at ten o'clock at night when nobody's there because he wants to get get it on.

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Speaker 1: And I hear that.

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Speaker 5: But if you really thinking about the event, you're thinking about the people. It's a strategy as a science, a science to everything that you do.

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Speaker 3: So what you're thinking before you get on the set. Because you one of the greatest DJs in the world.

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Speaker 1: He's the he's the best. We gotta give it to him, his Kick Capri that because I'm gonna get a bunch of comments he ain't the best.

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Speaker 3: Well, I don't give a fuck about that. I don't read comments. Brother, He's the best. You're the fucking best. From the Castle to the fever tell I'm just don't be modest because you're a cocky motherfucker.

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Speaker 4: I told you.

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Speaker 1: Listen, listen murder.

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Speaker 3: When I first met Kick Capri, my experience was I never left the fucking hood. Fifty flew me out to kid Kun.

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Speaker 1: He was signed on the Colombia toning poking them And what was the soundtrack for what's.

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Speaker 5: The movie with l L and Into Deep Sound?

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Speaker 1: Into Deep soundtrack? Don't say pause? The story behind that? Support? Yeah, support in too deep to cool? All right?

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Speaker 4: Pause?

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Speaker 3: It was a dope movie and I never left the hood. I went to King Kun fifty flew me out. I was out there, and this is when I knew Kickapri is cocky. Your He's just cocky. Mother did the best. He's the best, right he knows he's the best. That's why I like him, kicking. Prix came through right Shaine swinging. He came through the crowd. Now, mind you, this is a show like Gloria Velle ass. It was mass ship going on. Girls was getting eight out on stage. We could we could mute.

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Speaker 1: That or whatever.

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Speaker 4: You guy.

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Speaker 1: Girls.

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Speaker 3: This is my first time leaving the hood. Girls getting eight out on stage. I think it was Luca, one of them niggas up there like Luke. So this is like, what was that non seven after Yo Luke? And it was like Gloria Villas with their girls was getting it on stage. It was crazy, my first time leaving the hood. I'm in kid cool Mexico fifty got rowdy, rowdy, rowdy, rowdy, looking up y'all produce he produced.

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Speaker 5: Okay, we were signing the same label on Columbia. Gotcha now the crazy ship.

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Speaker 1: I didn't.

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Speaker 5: I didn't even realize that until later that movie. The first time I ever took an airplane ever was to Boston. Right, These drug dealer kids in Boston had me come out there and do some shows. Right, first time I've been on the plane. Ironically, the drug dealers that brought me out there. The movie was about them.

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Speaker 1: Oh shit, The leader was ll That was g Oh from the Into Deep movie.

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Speaker 5: Pause right right, I didn't know that. And and then on top of that, I produced the first record record, which was Rowdy Rody fifth. I didn't know none of this ship until later on I realized who they were talking about. But yeah, it was the dudes in Boston. That was the first time I ever been on the airplane. Look shout to them. After all my guys and.

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Speaker 3: Thigs, it's rounded roundy. That's my first start was that none seven? Yeah, my first time ever leaving the hood drug dealer? What three four got brew a dirty nigga leaving yo fifth, Thank you fifty kicking pri Oh yeah, back to being cock. He came through with the chain on change swinging. He still got the head now, curly head ship.

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Speaker 1: I still got my head man still what niggas be mad a kicking pre talking about it. He came through, but he was came through and that and this is nine seven and he sucked up. I his headup.

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Speaker 3: He didn't think I remember that he had the brownskin chick with the super fatty like before the bb out. He too cocky, that's man. I'm totally he's a legend, but he's a cocky motherfucker.

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Speaker 4: Man, how was it?

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Speaker 1: You know? Not to now?

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Speaker 3: You know I'm always you know we got Brooklyn in the house. Brooklyn, So how was it? Because I know you did some things with Biggie?

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Speaker 1: How was that? Man?

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Speaker 5: I just showed with Biggie.

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Speaker 1: That's what I want to show.

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Speaker 5: I remember one show.

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Speaker 1: I just want to hear about backstage with Biggie.

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Speaker 5: You know, I remember one time we was backstage. He was in the car right. I came up to the car. He was sitting there. Biggie was cool. I was sitting there. I was like, Yo, I'm proudly are you pulling me?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Probably?

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Speaker 5: So about to d ship down kids like I know, he had a purple suit on. It was me and him and R Kelly, Oh ship and see swallow and he got on stage. When he walked on stage, that ship just said it was I never heard of war like that, Like it was like a real like a it was like it was I never heard that ship before. But it was so crazy when he got on stage. This was in Detroit. When I seen that ship, man, it was like, Yo, this is this is massive because you just seen the like people just throwing people in it. And I had experienced like that in the Garden when I did the Garden, you know, shook this ship so crazy?

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Speaker 1: Who was that?

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Speaker 5: I did the Garden many times, but the one time I did it was when the Lea. When I went on tour with the Lea I had, we came into the Garden and I would come out, well, through the whole tour, I would come out she had we had. It was five people on the tour. It was Mary J. Blige, Bone Thugs in Harmony, Leah Genuine, and Drew Hill. So every Leah had a dancing show. So they wanted somebody to come with the energy. So that's why they came and got me to come in the middle of a show. So we would do this the whole tour. When we got to the Garden, they over the They oversold the Garden like eight thousand seats. The whole bottom. That ship was just crazy. So I seen Bust the rhymes in the back and this was right when when put your hands where I could see just trap. I said, yo, I'm bringing on stage and he was like word. I was like, yeah, but I ain't got the record. I turned, I seen flex. I see flex, I need to put you put your hands, I see joint. Gave me the record. I go on stage. I do this fifteen minute set, shake it and this motherfucker to the man was so crazy.

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Speaker 1: Then I stopped.

00:24:04
Speaker 5: I said, yo, I ain't done, and then I dropped put your hands while I could see him. Buster come wiggling his ass out there. To this day, to this yeah, to this day, me and Buster talk about the wind that we felt from people screaming at us. It was I'm glad he was there to witness that ship, because if I was by myself, nobody would believe that shit. He brings it up like your kid, Do you remember the fucking win from the people screaming at us. It was so crazy.

00:24:34
Speaker 1: Murder.

00:24:35
Speaker 5: My daughter's mother, Rena love mother at the time she was at the show, used to go all the guard and shows.

00:24:40
Speaker 1: She said, kid, I was there. She said, I never seen no shit like that. She said, it looked like people were throwing people.

00:24:48
Speaker 3: She was like, this ship was just your kid, not the fast forward because working with the Lee is crazy. But I'm just still visualized.

00:24:54
Speaker 5: But to do that for but the point I was about to make, to do that for Leah, that was and just see what the outcome for Lee was. That's something that's always going to you know what I'm saying that that's the bigger that's the part of it. It wasn't so much the show was I was able to do to you, you know what I'm saying.

00:25:11
Speaker 3: And then, kid, when you say Biggie and R Kelly, did they do you must be used to me spend Did they come out to that or Biggy did some other ship?

00:25:21
Speaker 2: No?

00:25:21
Speaker 1: Well yeah, no, no, No, I had left by that.

00:25:24
Speaker 5: I had by left by the time R Kelly came out. R Kelly was last.

00:25:28
Speaker 1: I already had left.

00:25:29
Speaker 5: I left in the middle of bigg didn't BIGGI didn't bring all Kelly out, No, it was it was the show was me, Biggie and R Kelly. So R Kelly was coming out last. But I don't know if R Kelly came out with Biggie or if Biggie came back out with.

00:25:41
Speaker 1: R Kelly left got you? It was crazy, That's why.

00:25:45
Speaker 5: But I was also I was also on tour with R. Kelly and Salt and Pepper. That tour was ridiculous. That was who who said Salt and Pepper and R Kelly was Sultan Peppers?

00:25:53
Speaker 1: What year was that? That was like see we bring the legends on the show.

00:25:59
Speaker 4: That was see your light Man year.

00:26:01
Speaker 1: We did that now classic four.

00:26:04
Speaker 5: Then we did the Buve Wise and Superfest tour, all the Deaf Comedy Jam tours we did.

00:26:10
Speaker 1: How was it with Sow and Pepper because you know they was like the first sex back in the days.

00:26:14
Speaker 5: It was crazy.

00:26:15
Speaker 3: Remember one push it came out. You know they was like they had the tight level Shout the Peer, Spinderella always the date over which DJ is witch Because I.

00:26:26
Speaker 1: Wasn't with Deaf Comedy Jam man, take us back to those days, Kud.

00:26:29
Speaker 5: That sh it was crazy.

00:26:31
Speaker 3: I was classic good We see a Light of Murder. That's a good one because I forgot about to be there.

00:26:38
Speaker 5: With all them dudes. Man, Like you gotta keep in mind, like Deaf Comedy Jam before Death Comedy Jam it was Eddie Murphy, was Richard Prye, was Red Fox. It was the standards. It wasn't the whole big lane for comedians. So Death Comedy Jam gave a stage every comedy that was real funny and real dope. In their own city. They never had no outlet, you know what I'm saying. So when they got there, it gave up being out there on a big stage. And then you got me this DJ on the show that you know what I'm saying. It just gave it a different kind of feel of the ship. And the real party was before the cameras went on. That was when the real ship was popping. That was when the party was shaking in there. And then when the cameras went on and became fun the funny time, but the whole ship was dope. And we went on tour and went on Deaf Comedy Jam tour. That's when they really got a chance to really see you.

00:27:25
Speaker 1: So how was it being around?

00:27:30
Speaker 3: We got to backstage because Mark being backstage with Bernie, we want to hear them stories. I wasn't around Bernie Mack, I wasn't around Martin. Who else was on there? It's a list, look him up and then you the moderator.

00:27:44
Speaker 1: Rather let my man kick you pre talk, right, I'm letting him.

00:27:47
Speaker 3: Talk, but I'm letting him moderate to find out all the people that was in that comedy.

00:27:52
Speaker 1: Find out all the people. Yeah about Bernie with Bernie.

00:27:56
Speaker 5: Max Bernie right a fuck. It was funny all day. Like You'll be on the tour bus with Bernie and this He'll have you laughing the whole trip. You know. He put his little stocking cap on and he had his heinde get in his hand and shit, and motherfucker would tell jokes the whole trip, like through cities and shit, and you go to sleep in your buck and now he go fuck with the bus driver and make him laugh to where he got to pull over and shit because he laughing like he was naturally like that.

00:28:27
Speaker 1: And he'll do that.

00:28:29
Speaker 5: Get to the city, get on stage, shut that ship down, host the whole show, shut that ship down, get back on the bus, and do the shit all over again. This was him every day. You know what I'm saying. I have videos and all kind of shit from us backstage and all kind of shit, so you know, to see them. I remember one time when Chris Tucker, he got on my tour bus. We took my tour bus out and Chris Tucker got on the bus. Chris Tucker was hot on Deaf Comedy Jam. He sat on my bus. He said, Yo, I ain't never been on the tour bus before.

00:28:57
Speaker 1: This is crazy. I never seen no shit like this.

00:29:00
Speaker 5: Two years later, he was making twenty million dollars making moves. Two years later, at the time, I was getting paid more than he was. Look at that, you know what I'm saying. So shit could happen in an instant, you know, depending on how much ground you put it to it. Defin comedy Jam putting those dudes out, because today you see everybody cap all these doing everybody that came up that came from that ship, you know what I'm saying. So it was a big platform from all of us.

00:29:24
Speaker 1: Know what's the list, what's the list? Everybody who's jump? Oh yeah, well that's crazy.

00:29:38
Speaker 5: Remember Kevin Hall from comedy Javi just the tip of the iceberg.

00:29:43
Speaker 1: Yeah, because there was so many.

00:29:45
Speaker 5: Here's the ones that didn't make it big, you know what I'm saying. You know, the Charles, Charlie Burnett and like people like that that didn't make it with the big name and them motherfuckers was incredibly funny as ship, you know what I'm saying, and they tore the sh sit down, you know, but everybody couldn't know. It was so many. We gave so many APPLIEDFI.

00:30:05
Speaker 1: The most on stage.

00:30:09
Speaker 5: I'll tell you what was who surprised me as a guest the most, and that was Dolomite. When Dolomite popped his ass out there, that ship was like.

00:30:17
Speaker 1: Dolomite was on Death Comedy crazy.

00:30:20
Speaker 5: I was like, oh ship more he was on there. I was like wow. So yeah, we brought a lot of people out and everything like and the great thing is when you seen the guests, all the guests that was there. But you know, the crazy thing is a lot of shows I've done. You know, I've had Michael Michael Jordan's sitting right next to me while I'm tearing down, you know what I'm saying, Like place. You know, people don't like Donald Trump. I'm not a Donald Trump supporter, none of that ship or what he does, and nothing against I'm not in political or nothing. But I did a party in Donald Trump's house.

00:30:49
Speaker 1: It's crazy.

00:30:50
Speaker 5: I did Martha Stewart's first hip hop party.

00:30:53
Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm saying, Like I did a lot of ship that people don't really know.

00:30:57
Speaker 5: Crazy, you know, and at the end of the day, you know, God put you in the position, so you just do what you do sometimes, you know, we have to talk about it.

00:31:05
Speaker 1: Just keep going. That's crazy.

00:31:08
Speaker 4: Bro.

00:31:08
Speaker 1: You ever worked with Michael Jackson. Nah?

00:31:12
Speaker 5: But I was on the show when we did the when we did the BT Awards, when we did the tribute to jam Master j James Brown and Michael Jackson was on that show. I met James. Me and James talked for a while. I didn't get a chance. But Janet Jackson, Tito Jackson, Jermaine Jackson, I know all of them. I know Jackie, I know Marlon.

00:31:32
Speaker 1: I just did it. I just did it.

00:31:34
Speaker 5: Just had me come to do the house, their house in Indiana and Gaby, Indiana. I just came and did an event there for them. I met, uh, Marlon and Jackie there. So Janet, Janet. How I met Janet. We were going me and Jim. We was at the airport. We was on our way going to North Carolina. Go too right, But what's how it went down. We're walking into the airport and her husband. At the time, I forgot his name light skin dude. He walks up to me. I didn't even know who he was.

00:32:04
Speaker 1: He says, Yo, my wife is a big fan of yours.

00:32:06
Speaker 5: She wants to meet you. I was like, who's your wife. He was like, she's in the van. Come to the man. I come to the van. She opens the door, she says, Yo, I seen Jen. I was like, oh, she said, I'm your biggest fan.

00:32:16
Speaker 1: Biggest fan. I felt him up. I bet she invited me to the show.

00:32:21
Speaker 5: We went to the show because I had a showing off can She had a show in the same city we was at for husbands in the day time, so we went there. Me and mc light got on stage at her show, and then I did my show that night, and then I came into the birthday party. So they cool family man, thanksful family man.

00:32:36
Speaker 1: You know, be in rooms you never thought you'd being man.

00:32:38
Speaker 5: Yeah.

00:32:38
Speaker 1: Being one of the best DJs in the world and not only a DJ, you know.

00:32:43
Speaker 3: I said, Grammy nominated backstage, and Jim and him corrected me. He wanted to Grammy so make some noise.

00:32:49
Speaker 1: Oh okay, I'm right, okay, should I'm talking about that about that.

00:32:55
Speaker 5: Yeah, well how that happened? That was kind of about default, right. I was doing the album i' gonna tell you. I'm gonna tell you what I mean by that. What I mean by I was doing I was doing an album called Soundtrack to the Streets.

00:33:07
Speaker 1: Right.

00:33:07
Speaker 5: My first album was Kicking Pretty Tape where rhyme on the whole album. I wasn't really into making an album when I got that album. Bizmarck Bismark got me that first album deal on one of the brothers, right, but he got me down deal based on I was hot in the street from my mixtapes. I wasn't looking for no album deal, right, so he got me dow I'm deal. A few six years later, I decided to do another album where I wanted to be a producer. I wanted to be like the Quincy Jones of hip hop. So I got to deal with Columbia to do this album called Soundtrack to the Streets. Jay Z was on the album on the first record is like That. At the same time, we was on the Puff tour and I was playing this track on the plate that forty five King did the beat too, which was hard knocked Life. That record hard Knock Lived. I was gonna put on the soundtrack to the Streets album. While I was cleaning in the arena. Jay heard it. Your kid was that it's hard knocked, like shit crazy.

00:33:59
Speaker 1: He's like yo.

00:34:00
Speaker 5: I was like, all right. I put him on the phone with forty five king too much. Two weeks later he had the record. So I gave it no big deal, not saying anything, but it was going to go on my album.

00:34:09
Speaker 1: Gave it to Jay.

00:34:09
Speaker 5: It probably worked out better than I gave it him, more than it was for me. You know what I'm saying. But that's the way you know it went. And then it blew up. Man. So because it's like that record, my record that was on my album with Jay, he licensed it on that same album. So that's how I won the Grammar. That's what I mean by the fault.

00:34:26
Speaker 1: All right, God, you know what I'm saying. But that's still dopeh Hey, I'm grateful shout to day. That's crazy.

00:34:33
Speaker 3: So we take it to you know, to the you know, he's been around all these people, you know, James Brown. But I did my homework on you back in the days. I heard you used to go to Harlem. You know what I mean and the Benzes. I don't know if you had the benz to be in, but they said you had some ship. This is the word on the streets. Used to go to Harlem because we're gonna go to the mixtape eraror because the mixtape error is as important as you. He was talking about battle rap. I love battle rap, but the mixtape eerror is important. You know, Kick Capri, ron G shout the kick hold on, Kick Apri, ron G, Grand Master, Vic dog Time, my man, DJ Roughheads, the Rockaway Twins, you know, I mean DJ gold Figgas, tape Master, when Niggas was going to the club, J Delarello, when Niggas was going to the club bringing motherfucking fifteen or twenty creats.

00:35:33
Speaker 1: Kick Capri is in that rate, all of them.

00:35:36
Speaker 3: And I heard because ron G number ten, You and ron G, it's like two of my favorite shout to ron G.

00:35:42
Speaker 1: Ron G number ten was a classic.

00:35:44
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.

00:35:45
Speaker 3: That's when Tim Dogg went against the West Coast. He had Fuck Compton versus Bronx Nigga. You know, Bronx Niggas was always crazy Shelter BX. I love Compton. I'm not this in Compton. But he was the first nigga to like go at Compton in the eighties. I don't remember you remember that record, but I heard you used to sell tapes to like all the biggest drug dealers, rich Al Pole, Fritz god Fisher. Is this true, like out the Trunk oft the Benz or the Being Wagon or just explain that, because I said what.

00:36:14
Speaker 1: Happened was start.

00:36:17
Speaker 5: Let's start here, Hollywood Lovebuck, Starsky Chief Rocking, star Child and Blucy b Legend. They were to mixtape gods in New York.

00:36:28
Speaker 1: Legends legends.

00:36:29
Speaker 5: Right. So star Child was playing in the s S Club. Sn S Club was a club that not anybody was just allowed to be in because of the people that was in there. Right, So when I got in there, I'm like, oh shit, I'm looking at I'm seeing who's who I know, Who's who? I know? What's what? You know what I'm saying. And me and Start started playing star Wars, making the mixtapes and them, me and him started making the mixtape together. When I stopped playing with Star I kept making the mixtapes. But I've seen something bigger than New York. You know what I'm saying. I seen it bigger. I've seen it going out, and I decided, I'm gonna sit on the street corner in front of Rucker or the street corner one hundred and forty fifth Street next to Willie Berger's and sell the mixtapes for twenty dollars. So I would go to Trader Home, buy a case of tapes, a dollar a tape, and come out selling them twenty hours a tape, make two thousand dollars in an hour. I was doing this shit every day. You know what I'm saying. These niggas were selling twenty dollars cracks. I'm selling twenty doll of mixtapes, right, So what got me? And said? It gave men awareness?

00:37:31
Speaker 1: Right for our pole Richard, them niggas buy your tape.

00:37:34
Speaker 5: Our Phoe would come to my joint and buy the tape for me for five hundred seem because he wanted to own. He wanted the tape that nobody had while I was recorded. So he'll say, he'll your kid, I'll get you a hundred. Now two hundred, kid, your three finday they'd take the tape out, so.

00:37:51
Speaker 1: I'll give you tape. You know what I'm saying. But That's how it went.

00:37:54
Speaker 5: It was them things was it was like the soundtrack to the drug dealers because when they heard their shot out on their name, on the shot on the mix tape and they going down the street playing on that crazy system, they made them feel like a star. You know what I'm saying. So I ain't one dude telling me he was like yo, when I when I dressed. If I ain't have a mixtape, a kicking pre mixtape on me, I ain't feel fly like it was part of the addressing. You know what I'm saying, that your chain.

00:38:17
Speaker 1: So it wasn't like niggas paid you for the shoutout. They were just paying extra. No, but yeah, right exactly, my tape extra. But that paying extra was like paying for the shoutow. No, No, my tape was twenty dollars.

00:38:29
Speaker 5: But there was people that would come and just give me a thousand dollars, give me five hundred just because of what I was doing. There would be dudes that want this tape. There was only one left he want. He wanted to give me three hundred. This dude won't give me six hundred for it because he don't want him to have it.

00:38:44
Speaker 1: Was coming through to it was crazy.

00:38:47
Speaker 5: Well rich would come through. Every now and then a Z would come through.

00:38:52
Speaker 1: A would come through, because you know, that was classic times.

00:38:54
Speaker 5: I see a after all that shit, all those years after, I see a still.

00:38:59
Speaker 1: She was driving to be in. He was looking like a drug dealer.

00:39:03
Speaker 5: You know I was doing. I'm gonna tell what I did. I pulled up right one hundred and forty fifth Street. Everybody out here with all their cars.

00:39:11
Speaker 1: I bought my.

00:39:11
Speaker 5: Man's arrange camera or was that shit Camaro? I bought that ship. Pulled up right up before the Willie Burgers jumped up on the put sat right there. I was like, you crazy kid, everybody there with fly shit. I had an orange Camaro out there, some ugly shit. I didn't care about nothing of that. I still care about that. Today I drive a Wrangler. I can drive what I want to drive, a Wrangler, bro. I don't care. Remember I own the two tour buses. I never cared about cars. I've had cars that stayed factory, never putting no rims on him. Then I put system in it. But I don't care about that stuff. I care about other things.

00:39:50
Speaker 1: You know, legacy making shit happen. How was it coming up in the Bronx, because you know he came up in the Bronx.

00:39:56
Speaker 5: I mean, coming up in the Bronx is the Bronx. I lived in a good part of the bron Kingsbridge, you know what I'm saying, right next to Riverdale, which I moved to Riverdale later. It wasn't, you know, rough like the South Bronx. But we ain't take no shit, couldn't come to that block with no dumb shit, and ones that did left their bad. So it was definitely an area where everybody took each other, everybody looked out for each other. Everybody was straight, you know. And then I opened up a hairshop over there called evanech Unisex for ten years, me and me and Curtis Smith. Curtis Smith was a celebrity hairstyle and see, you know what was going back just making sure everything's good out there. But yeah, but we always had a good time. Never been no real problems in the Bronx.

00:40:38
Speaker 1: Man, Fast forward, right, how did you connect with Kendrick Lamar? My guy?

00:40:43
Speaker 5: He reached out when he was doing a damn album. So when he came out to New York, I met him in the studio, and he gave me an idea what you wanted to do. I gave him some ideas what he should do. And what surprised me about Kendrick is how smart he was and how much history he knew. Because I said, it's another interview. When when I asked him, I said, Yo, you could have had you know, DJ Pool or battle Cat or one of them legends out there in the West Coast to come and do this. Why he did and call them? His response was, you know, I know what you did for the music business. I know what you did for DJs, I know what you did as a whole. A lot of people wouldn't be eaten if you didn't do what you did. So I wanted that authenticity on the album. I was like, Wow, look what I'm saying. It was dope for you know, he really did his homework, you know what I'm saying. So that's where it pressed me the most real, smart, laid back, calm dude, you know what I'm saying, and really focused, you know what I'm saying. He Yeah, I'm older than him and I look up to him, you know what I'm saying.

00:41:43
Speaker 1: But what he does I don't even know. He was in the studio with him. That's crazy. On the project, man, project, you produced.

00:41:51
Speaker 5: It or you just just that I narrated the album. I did about five joints. Yep.

00:41:57
Speaker 1: Got to do your homework. And see, man, I know I know all this.

00:42:03
Speaker 6: I know Kick appreciate, but you ain't know he was on Kendrick Lamar album, all these new records I got coming out.

00:42:09
Speaker 1: To cam We Brothers. That's what I'm said.

00:42:22
Speaker 6: Camera in this music business right and you've been doing business for so long? Has anybody ever owed you money? Kid that you finally hard your mothers owe me.

00:42:32
Speaker 1: Money to nobody?

00:42:36
Speaker 5: Shippp Because what happens is I'm not gonna ask you for it.

00:42:43
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna remember I gave it to you. Got you got you?

00:42:46
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. And that's the problem.

00:42:49
Speaker 1: You know.

00:42:50
Speaker 5: You know Now, depending on what it really is, how much it is, I may come and be like, what's that path that we got to do something? But if it's something I could do without, Hey, for whatever it was, it got you away from me, I ain't got worry about you no more.

00:43:04
Speaker 1: Got you got you got you yo?

00:43:06
Speaker 3: Talk about you know shouting my man Dre. Shout the kid Capri. He's not only a producer, he's a rapper, you know, shout to the New York Knicks. Because he's on his New York ship.

00:43:18
Speaker 5: This dude right here, let me tell you what happened. Let me just talk to Ship because Jayo didn't want me to tell you. He didn't want me to say nothing.

00:43:24
Speaker 1: He didn't want you to You definitely got to say.

00:43:26
Speaker 5: He didn't want me to say ship. All right. This is when I dropped live from New York. I ain't even dropped live from New York yet. He heard shout to Robbie Rob. Robbie Rob had hit me on the FaceTime. He was with Robbie Rob and I was playing live for New York in the FaceTime. Yeah, y'all heard that ship. It was like, Yo, play that ship again. Played it again. He got right on the phone and called Dre. Yo, Dre, I need you to make sure this ship is rocking in the in the States and the Garden Masal Square Guard.

00:43:57
Speaker 6: Now listen, the record was about to get this nigga some props right now.

00:44:01
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm giving it to him crazy. The record wasn't even out yet. It was two weeks before the record was even coming out. This ship was rocking in the Guard and the ship was all and they were playing playing it by playing the.

00:44:14
Speaker 1: Game playoffs, and they called me down.

00:44:16
Speaker 5: They'd come do a bunch of shit for the Guard and all that. This ship wasn't even out yet. So his ball, he really set it off for me for that record before I got a chance. And now that the smart thing was I didn't want people to think it was a New York Knicks record in case they lost God, so I waited for them to see if they were going to lose a win before I dropped the real video.

00:44:35
Speaker 1: Out you Murder.

00:44:36
Speaker 3: At the end of the day, I had to sound the ear. This guy is a dope producer. He's a rapper, you know what I'm saying, and he's the number one DJ.

00:44:45
Speaker 5: So that was a dope look he did that.

00:44:47
Speaker 3: So when you go back to battle rappers, I think when battle rappers the most challenge for them is when they make records, people look at them as one in one pocket. But when you look at kick Apre, you look at him as more as top tier DJ in the world, instead of looking at him as a rapper or a producer.

00:45:04
Speaker 1: You understand what I'm saying. You pass my letter? Oh definitely, I was about to steal it, you know what i mean.

00:45:09
Speaker 3: But you know what I mean, like they look at him as you know he's number one producers because when you get on them turned tables and you hit kid Capri, you know.

00:45:17
Speaker 5: The party DJing. You know just what I do is the party dj It's all kind of DJing. You know what I'm saying. I'm not the best. I'm the best at what I do. You know what I'm saying. What I do set the tone for what you see everybody doing. Just kick Capri and them.

00:45:35
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

00:45:35
Speaker 5: They got some kind of blueprint or something from my chemistry at what I've done, So I mean, I ain't got to sell that to nobody. Everybody knows that. It's you know, people that probably did my style got it from somebody else that don't know they got it from me. It is what it is. I'm glad to be able to have that influence on people to do that. You know what I'm saying. That's a that's a gift, you know what I'm saying. But at one time I ain't like that shit. One time, I was like, why everybody doing my shit? Fuck anybody doing my ship for a find your own ship saying I ain't coming sound like Boosie, I ain't coming, sound like Starring. I came. I found my own ship and I moved. It did and it worked. Find your ship, be influenced, but don't be gonna copy. We don't come from that. But what are you gonna do? You know what I'm saying. So once I got over that and really looked at it for what it was, it was like your kid, you influenced the world. Really did that ship?

00:46:22
Speaker 1: Like you really did that shit.

00:46:23
Speaker 5: So once I got into that, it was like, yeah, that's dope. You know what I'm saying.

00:46:29
Speaker 6: Now, you entertained radio for a little bit, but you was never like the big radio DJ guy like that.

00:46:36
Speaker 1: Why you didn't choose that path? Why you didn't pursue that?

00:46:38
Speaker 5: Because everything for me is a stepping stone. The mixtape was a steppingstone. It wasn't a career move. Deaf Comedy Jam was a stepping stone. It wasn't a career move. Even though we had a dope career doing it was on. We was off for nine different seasons. I would have kept going for nine more, but it was a stepping stone. It was the next thing. It's always album and then you know the next thing.

00:46:59
Speaker 1: You know.

00:46:59
Speaker 5: I would try to innovate.

00:47:00
Speaker 1: This is why I ain't. I don't try not to follow.

00:47:04
Speaker 5: I try to give something that people might want that they never seen before. Because we, especially in right now, we have an abundance of everybody doing anybody everything. Everybody's a rapper, everybody's a stripper, everybody's everybody's everything. Everybody got something to say, everybody name somebody, anybody got everybody, but no they with the podcast, it's who's doing it.

00:47:31
Speaker 1: That's what it is. Ain't kicking everybody can't do everything. You know what I'm saying. You know, like that the album thing. Now, everybody's want to be making albums.

00:47:42
Speaker 5: That's why the album narrative went down, because motherfucker make an album and have twelve garbage records on there and one good song.

00:47:49
Speaker 1: So now.

00:47:51
Speaker 3: That's what Listen, who do we blame do we bring radio? Do we blame the DJs? Because that's what they changed the game into. I look at it like this, Listen, hold on, let me say my point. I ain't even saying nothing yet no, because I'm on k see well, I think the eighties was the classic eraror for hip hop.

00:48:08
Speaker 1: For me, it's because it was all about New York City. Right. You had Ka ris One, you had fucking Eric b Rock Kim, Big Daddy King, Slick.

00:48:21
Speaker 3: Rick coom O d fucking you have records self, you have self destruction, you have steptastonic.

00:48:29
Speaker 1: Saying it wrong. You had a couple of dricks let's stay more. You had DJ red Alert, you had What's my Man? This goes on?

00:48:41
Speaker 3: And it's so many DJs. For me, the eighties was like and then you always gotta say Ralph McDaniels because I'm the nigga that absolutely was in the crib when I hear that, no, no, no, you don't get the credit he deserves.

00:48:56
Speaker 1: He's me for b et all the ship.

00:48:58
Speaker 5: He don't get the credit. South Damn you don't get credit when you used to hear.

00:49:02
Speaker 3: That dinner didn't It was like at that point was yeah as a word as a kid, and that.

00:49:12
Speaker 4: Was on Saturday.

00:49:13
Speaker 1: You know, you want to throw on that ship for the ticks.

00:49:16
Speaker 3: That's when you see girls and outfits as a kid, you know, But like when I heard that Dinner Dinner and Big Daddy Kane is on there with the big chain right.

00:49:28
Speaker 1: Click rick like for me, like even run DMC.

00:49:33
Speaker 3: Classic ship for me was It's Christmas Tom and Haller's Queens moms could get chickens because that was a Christmas song, like a Christmas album that was just for me. Those are like the best times in my life. Man, the eighties man block parties, DJ's scratching, you know there was actually turn like like for me, I don't know how to mess with c DJ's and noting my man rough hands and like I went to Grand Mass, the big parties, like I went to Jamaica Avenue to buy mixtapes Dog Time, grim Master Vic.

00:50:04
Speaker 1: Then he can clue you changed the game. We fuck with your clue changed the game. I like blends. You know what I'm saying. I like, we had our shit. That's the Queen's anthem. Oh travels.

00:50:14
Speaker 3: I was in the parties Grand Master, so for me, I was like, yo, it's just classic hip hop. Rest in peace of Freaky Todd, the Little Boys. Remember when they came. I was around, like I was in the streets, like listen to that. But as a kid, Ralph McDaniels brother talk about that man like Ralph McDaniel's that Tom and hip hop.

00:50:34
Speaker 1: To me, the eighties was just all about New York.

00:50:37
Speaker 5: Yeah, he deserve it, man, He deserved to get more recognition than he got.

00:50:40
Speaker 4: Man.

00:50:40
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, he really put it in. You know what I'm saying, really put like he really cared about it, you know what I'm saying. And that'd be the problem to be the ones that really care about it, that don't get the recognition that it's supposed to and the ones that really don't give a shit. You know, they coming to show late. You know, they think they get on stage with a thousand people, They come, do two songs, they romming over, they record, They don't really care. You know what I'm saying. They care about the wild factor. Look at me. I'm here, look at me. It becomes that, you know what I'm saying, when you could tell when somebody that is on stage and they like I don't like to put myself in it, but I have to use it. When I'm on stage. I look at myself as if I'm in the crowd watching me, and what would make me like me? What would make me want to come back and watch me again? What would make a promoter pay to have me come back again? What would make these people pay again to come see me again? You know what I'm saying, So I become them. It's never about me, and a lot of times, a lot of different artists and people, it becomes about them, and that's where the fall off comes at. They might be popping for that minute, but as soon as they think it's about them, that's when you see the fall off come. It's never about you because these are the people that put the money in your pocket to pay your life. So how do you not give them the best you can give them? How do you not be humble enough to show that they're part of you and there inclusive? You know what I'm saying. We're not fucking better than nobody. We just got better job. We might have a better job, but we ship and tickle and.

00:52:19
Speaker 1: Just the real ship. Though better than everybody.

00:52:25
Speaker 4: I appreciate that.

00:52:25
Speaker 3: I appreciate that hockey backing one of the greatest ever all time? Right, what the fuck is the mindset of like? Because being a DJ is the toughest job. People say being a rapper is the toughest job. But then the DJ is the toughest job.

00:52:45
Speaker 1: You might get shot at less, of course, right, but definitely yeah, y'all get shot at less a little bit better than the rapp.

00:52:52
Speaker 3: But think about this, what's the mindset I'm kicking pre right, Okay, how do I work this crowd? Am I going reggae? Am I going hip hop? Am I going R and B? Am I going Spanish music?

00:53:08
Speaker 4: Like?

00:53:09
Speaker 1: How does the DJ? Because you know what I'm saying, how do you know how to move the crawd?

00:53:13
Speaker 4: Like?

00:53:14
Speaker 1: What would be your advice to a DJ?

00:53:15
Speaker 4: Like?

00:53:15
Speaker 1: If I was DJing and I'm in fucking London, what are you gonna tell me?

00:53:20
Speaker 3: Play afro B? So if I'm in New York in Harlem, like, what is tell me? What's the mindset?

00:53:26
Speaker 5: That's what I want to For years and years I've been doing this shit. I've been traveling all over back It's your job to know what's going on in that city. So I will call the top DJ out in the city or the promote out in the city and say, Yo, what's popping? What's the top ten things popping in that city? And by the time I get to that city, I'm doing that, and those people are surprised because these records, if I'm playing let's say this music, those records are never heard nowhere else. They just popping in that one city, and it's an underground thing, you know, right, So when I come and play that ship, they're like, how the fuck he knows that?

00:54:04
Speaker 1: Oh, you do your homework. It been like that for you to play that record first.

00:54:09
Speaker 5: Yeah, so when I played, the crowd is losing you.

00:54:14
Speaker 1: And this is all over.

00:54:15
Speaker 5: If I'm in Alaska, I know what's popping in the last Thank you.

00:54:18
Speaker 1: For the secret. I just gave y'all. I just gave y'all one on one just now, that's crazy.

00:54:25
Speaker 6: Now I do, kid can pre make the transition of rapping now because now you you you you wrap up. I even get a lot of what like d ms on Instagram or a lot of ads, and I be thinking, I'm getting like a personal message like that, what's up my nigga, But it be like nine, nigga, check out this new ship.

00:54:42
Speaker 1: I'm spitting like it was good. So how the transition happened with that kid?

00:54:46
Speaker 5: It never was a transition my first before, there was a before, there was a rough riders, a cash money, no limit, a bad boy kicking pri a wrap out kicking pre to tape.

00:54:56
Speaker 1: Oh okay, right, so through your homework.

00:54:59
Speaker 5: Wrap records now been my bread and butter. I make rap records because I want to DJ. Should always been my bread and butter. Right, So I didn't make records every year. You know what I'm saying?

00:55:08
Speaker 4: You know like that?

00:55:09
Speaker 5: So, like I said, when I did, the first album was a rap album. The second album was a production album only rhyming album twice. My next album after that was twenty four years ago, which was twenty four years later, which is the Love Album, which I put out in twenty twenty two. Since then, I've been putting records out up until last week. But I only have three four albums the Hoodies album. Three four albums throughout all these years. Because it never been my bread and butter. I didn't want to deal with all the everything that comes with it. It comes with especially make my type of album Clarence is and all that shot. Just say you know what, and we just do it when I want to do it. And now that we in the ever where, you ain't gotta have no no handcuffs on you. You know what I'm saying, you could do things and social media just get to have. So if I want to put this half fun to do it, you just do it?

00:55:52
Speaker 4: Got it?

00:55:53
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.

00:55:53
Speaker 3: You don't think there's a point in time where like if y'all agree with this, because this is how I feel that people try to like devalue the DJ because like I said, Okay, let's let's go. No, let me tell you just we go from the eighties terminated, look, terminated this eighties?

00:56:12
Speaker 1: He you go ahead ahead? Let people. I always let you, let me, let me, let me explain my synopsis nigga right right, you've been drinking a lot to let me do my yea, go ahead, right.

00:56:33
Speaker 3: So what I'm saying like in the eighties, right, we knew who terminated was terminated X right, terminated as he had the big glasses. Yeah, we knew jam Master J.

00:56:44
Speaker 1: Right. Let me let me think who was slick? We knew Eric bat in rocking? Right, who's slick Rick DJ? Again? You know, man, it's white?

00:56:53
Speaker 5: What's this DJ?

00:56:55
Speaker 1: But at that point you know him? I like how you just stopped that question because I forgot slip because I know we always had the King going ship. Let me say, I don't know he was. Now.

00:57:03
Speaker 3: Look, that was a point in time of the DJ. Then you fast forward to, like what you say, the nineties, where you had Ca Capri was still he was in the eighties, but the nineties you had Kick Capri. The eighties we would say what the eighties red alert? We would say, what is red alert?

00:57:21
Speaker 1: Red al? Yeah? Yeah, wherever?

00:57:27
Speaker 5: Where you going with it?

00:57:28
Speaker 3: Though what I'm going with it, I'm not trying to confuse you. I'm going me kid y'all not Let me finished. By the eighties, the DJ was relevant, like to up an extent where you was watching Eric Be as much as rock Kim.

00:57:48
Speaker 1: Let me keep going, let me finish.

00:57:50
Speaker 4: Let me say.

00:57:51
Speaker 3: The nineties even like what I'm saying is like even in the nineties you had Kick Capri, you had Flex anything. They had albums at that point, like Kick Apri had an album, Flex had the album, Clue had an album. Before DJ Khalid, it was more like now now you only see DJ Khaled with an album. No disrespect to him, but it was just more shit like like a Flex album would come out and you'd be like, oh shit, we got this free style kick Apri. Oh shit, he might have this freestyle from nigga from hallam on. He might have some big l shit.

00:58:26
Speaker 1: Clue, oh clue.

00:58:27
Speaker 3: Oh he got a knaves free style. You know what I'm saying. That's all I'm saying. It just seemed like it was just just more to DJs. It was just more bad. It was just more value to it. I'm not and I love all the DJ's till this point. Now, that's why we got him on the show. But I feel like niggas don't give just due to certain DJs that or DJ's in the game period, like how they used to in them rags that was sny.

00:58:53
Speaker 1: Do y'all agree? Oh no, take on this.

00:58:56
Speaker 5: I want to know what the question is.

00:58:58
Speaker 3: No, do you feel like likeas like sometimes like a nigga like you we got on the show, like it's important to have you on the show to show how important you are to hip hop, Like sometimes.

00:59:08
Speaker 1: I feel like the DJ position got paused, Like it's not like in the eighties nineties to now something gets all.

00:59:19
Speaker 5: Right, let me back up, back up before records, right, it was Grand Master Flash and the Phibious five. It was bad, was the theater and the Fantastic It was Charlie chasing the Cold Cours brothers.

00:59:37
Speaker 4: What was the DJ name?

00:59:39
Speaker 1: First?

00:59:39
Speaker 5: Right, records came in and then DJ's was scratching on the records a little bit, right, But then they didn't need DJ scratching on the records. They started making records. They were making records with bands, right, So when they need the DJ to be scratching on the record, no more, the name wasn't there no more standing in the front. Now when the nineties come, you got people like Premiere that's scratching on the record. But it's a different type of hip hop now. It's more advanced now. Right now, when you get to the mixtape ever with me, right now, it becomes a one man's, a one man's show. I don't need a rapper, I don't need none of this shit. I'm I could do everything right. That transformed into the tape now, the tape that's so popular that we start getting album deals now to make it, to make to take artists, and I was the first one take artists putting together. Right right now, when something gets hot and everybody does it, eventually it's going to get warm. It's going to get warm. It's not going to stay around because everybody's doing it that probably ain't supposed to be doing it. You see what I'm saying. That goes for anything. So that's what Listen. One day somebod I said, I get a tattoo, and everybody got fucking tattoos. One day somebody said, I'm a smoke a hookah.

01:01:05
Speaker 1: Nobody know what hooker.

01:01:06
Speaker 5: Everybody starts smoking. Who gonna sound cool? You know that ship is that overseas. This is what I'm saying. When something gets hot, we overdo it until it ain't hot.

01:01:16
Speaker 1: How many DJs albums it was only me.

01:01:19
Speaker 5: Tony Touch Flex Clue, there's a lot of them, Like it's no, it wasn't that many though, I mean, it wasn't that many, of course not.

01:01:29
Speaker 1: You said you flex used to be putting.

01:01:37
Speaker 5: I mean that's a good handful for where we came from, where DJs wasn't looked at to do that, you know what I'm saying. So keep that in mind, Like you know, I set the trail of soundtrack to the streets and that opened the door, you know what I'm saying, But it still didn't bring us to where we're on the front page. Of magazines. They you know we were on the you know, we being highlighted the way we're supposed to be highlighted at award shows, and you know shit like that. It's still a long way. Like I fought for the fact of I'm not gonna be treated like some nigga playing music, you know what I'm saying, like just playing records. You're gonna put me center stage like you put the hit artists. You ain't put me on no bottom of no flyer. You're gonna you ain't treating me like that. You're gonna treat me like an artist. I'm gonna get paid the same way. Because here's the science of it. If I'm taking a room that and I'm feeling this. Say, if you get an artist and he fills this room, sells it out, and you put me in that same room and I sell it out. This man's on stage for two hours doing two songs. His hit record is the first trick and maybe another record. He's out of the door. Hen't really give you no real show. I'm there for two hours shaking this shiit. Same amount of people, same amount of brand. You're gonna pay me the same way you're paying him where you're gonna look at it because I'm playing other people's music, and DJ is any different. It's a performance. At the end of the day, if I'm doing my job better than him, it ain't worth more than what he's supposed to.

01:02:53
Speaker 1: Get or the same. Nah.

01:02:55
Speaker 5: So me standing on that made me become who I became. I knew how to say know the people very early.

01:03:02
Speaker 1: Nah, I'm good.

01:03:03
Speaker 5: Give it to the next one.

01:03:04
Speaker 1: Give it and I know the work.

01:03:05
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. I know what I bring to the table. I know what kind of One time a dude walked up to me. I did a show.

01:03:11
Speaker 1: I filled up four floors, sold it out. He got so excited he said some.

01:03:16
Speaker 5: Shit to me he wasn't supposed to say.

01:03:18
Speaker 1: He read up with me, your kid, yo, your chith this shit and shit was crazy. Yo, I made two hundred and fifty ten thousand dollars on you, just on the ball. Lo.

01:03:27
Speaker 5: I was like, well, all right, And from that day on, I got what I wanted.

01:03:33
Speaker 1: Gotcha made exactly because look at it this way, look at it this way right. For years so it was just your name on that fly, just my name on the fly.

01:03:43
Speaker 5: This is this is all over the country. This is everywhere I go out of the country, this is islands everywhere. I feel that shit of by myself. I don't need no artists. I don't need none of that ship. I sell out where we go, you know what I'm saying, because that's what we built up. But you making money from the bar, you're making money from the food, you're making money from the parking, and you ain't paying this to the artists. So how do you bitch about what I want from that door? You pay me what I want and that's why not. But but with that, you got to bring a certain amount of artistry to that stage to demand that.

01:04:19
Speaker 1: Everybody can't demand that.

01:04:21
Speaker 5: Everybody can't demand that. And if you're going to demand that, you have to you have to bring with backs that up, you know what I'm saying. And that's where we get a little bit entitled where we did. We got a little hit record out and we pop because we got to hit record out. Okay, records going. What are you gonna do for me to hear your next record or coming to your show with enjoy you and buy your merch Are you're gonna That's what I'm saying that's a whole big picture. Before you getting this minuit. You gotta know that because you be here to day going tomorrow. Don't watch motherfuckers come today, be here it be here today. They can't get a show.

01:04:55
Speaker 1: DJing is like rappers. It's competition. And you know that. I know he ain't gonna not not admit to that.

01:05:00
Speaker 3: And I'm gonna tell you why should be different, Like when you're a big dog and I know flex and Kickapri and all these niggas do that, like you know how like the first DJ be there he opened it, Kick Capri would be like, YO, tell that a nigga don't play certain records until I get there.

01:05:17
Speaker 1: No, sir, No, I'm just saying not maybe not hell maybe not you look you you big dog. You I thought you was allowed to do that to tell if you are open listen, if you break it down, yay, our guest talk.

01:05:33
Speaker 5: That's not how it how it goes is because I want people to get their money's worth, right. I'm not the dude that's happy to do your fucking event. I'm happy to do your event if everything is treated the way it's supposed to treat for the people that pay they getting to come see me. They're the number one thing, not me, not the promoter. They are the number one thing. So I don't want to come in the show. And the d J that's trying to sound like Kicking pre plays the ship that Kicking pri plays before Kicking pre get a chance to play it at the wrong time. Right, So what I've done was paid for opening DJ for years, all the way up to now to come in. He plays a certain amount of ship that's supposed to be played for opening, and then I do whatever needs to be done, and DJ never for you. There's times there's times we have DJs opening up. But here's the problem. I will go in there and tell them what we need to do to make this ship work in a good way. Right, he would yes me to death.

01:06:40
Speaker 1: I walk in there.

01:06:41
Speaker 5: He's doing something totally different. I won't say nothing. To do what you want to do, but you won't work with me no more. You'e what I'm saying. But the dude that did listen to me, which is like my man Jesse, Right, Jesse James, he would working with us. He worked, He's from Indiana. He would work with us for years. I told him to do a certain amount of the things he did it. This dude goes around the country with me for now. You know what I'm saying, Technician, the DJ you know technicians to DJ play for lot keeping with me for twenty five years. Technician, you know what I'm saying. You've been opening with me for a long time. So these are dudes that really understand and care about what's going on, and they know it's not about them. It's about what the event is. But you have dudes that don't think that way. I'm thinking about the people. I'm not thinking about me.

01:07:25
Speaker 4: No.

01:07:25
Speaker 1: I thought it was like DJ golden rule, no disrespect, but.

01:07:29
Speaker 4: It should be.

01:07:30
Speaker 1: It should be a golden rule.

01:07:32
Speaker 5: It's the same thing as if you was opening for fifty, right you Tony Yayo. You ain't gonna be doing fifty records before Ricky and fifty come out.

01:07:39
Speaker 1: There, That's what I'm saying.

01:07:40
Speaker 5: Right So, if you hire me to no it's these are not my records I'm playing, But you hired me to play these records.

01:07:46
Speaker 1: You want the chicken free shit. You want that ship.

01:07:50
Speaker 5: So if you want that impact, how you expect me to play around somebody that's playing the ship? That I need to play to make that impact go. Even though there's a million records to play. I don't know what this man's plans. So I come in playing where he playing, I'm not gonna get the impact that. That's the problem that it's not about what you play, it's about what I know you're playing when you play.

01:08:08
Speaker 1: And when you play, you know they have to play that. That's what I'm saying. But you want to get it in because you want to get it in the show.

01:08:15
Speaker 5: You can get it in, you know what I'm saying.

01:08:17
Speaker 1: Like, that's not that's just like like Golden Rule.

01:08:21
Speaker 3: I learned like see about being DJ Ruffians twins in them and like tape mastering them like they were like if my man if harcore, you know hardcore. He was like the opening that for Roughians in hardcore, you tell hardcore, no, nigga, don't play this.

01:08:34
Speaker 1: It was like Golden Rule, like, nah, you you don't. My thing is listen. It doesn't matter what you play.

01:08:43
Speaker 5: I don't care. I can play the same cheft you'n still do what I do. It doesn't really matter. At the end of the day, there is you should know if you call yourself a good djil, a good performer, good anything. You should be able to do. Ship with C and D seeing D joints coming there, shake that ship. And then when you do your own events and you have an opener or you want your event to move a certain kind of way because you have a vision of how you want it to be done, the same way a promoter has a vision of how you want his event to go. It's the same ship as a strategy, as a science. Don't be mad because somebody has a science and you don't. You just free falling. You glad to be attached to the ship, so you let to put you anywhere, talk to you any kind of way, do whatever to you, and you just dead because you want to be attached to the event where I'll tell you go take your event, shove it up your ass. If you ain't gonna respect what I need to be done, you ain't gonna come and tell Jay how to rhyme on a mic. You ain't gonna tell him to stand in o' corner. You're gonna tell Uncle Murder he can't do his wrap up at his show.

01:09:44
Speaker 1: You can't.

01:09:45
Speaker 5: So you're gonna tell me how to do what I do and how it should be done. You see what I'm saying, Murder, This is what I'm saying, And so we got to eat that. And like I said, for years it been the DJ was looked at us he's the bottom, like he's the bottom one, like you know what I'm saying, and like dog. But at the end of the day, everybody fucking relies on the DJ for your concerts, for your radio we played your record, be played on radio for your mixtape. Ship. You know what I'm saying. The better, the better producers, the DJs, like you've allowed on the DJ for every day. But you want to look at him as he's the bottom. You want to put him over here on the states, put him on the bottom of the fly. Talk them any kind of way with you're an artist walking in talking to the DJ crazy like you see that they.

01:10:25
Speaker 1: The DJs, man, stop playing. This is what I'm saying. So this is why I started that.

01:10:30
Speaker 5: This is why I started rapping again and get going back in the beats and doing my ship again because when I put Live from New York out, real rappers will look at it like, oh, us kids just putting out a party record.

01:10:41
Speaker 1: He he, that's cute.

01:10:43
Speaker 5: And then I put talk heavy on their ass. And when I dropped talk heavy on the ass, that let them know you got to push your pen. You know what I'm saying. And it's DJK canpreciow you that. So don't look at us like we just won you doing one thing. Nah, we could do it all right, right, So that's what that's why I stand tall and stand on it like that. And you know that's how a lot of people should think of me. That it doesn't have to do with the DJ because anything standing on your ship, don't let nobody tell you how you see your vision and how your vision is supposed to go because they don't see it that way, they don't see the word in it, or they don't see that it's supposed to be that way, or he's a deck You call me a diva because I don't want my ship situated that way. Definitely, you're gonna tell your boss he's a deep because he wants you to work a certain way.

01:11:28
Speaker 1: Mother, like, no, this is me man pree Man. I got a question for you, right if you had an old Caucasian crowd.

01:11:37
Speaker 3: What's the first what's the first place records you play old Caucasian crowd.

01:11:43
Speaker 5: Probably start with I love rock and roll.

01:11:47
Speaker 1: Love rocking bro, something like that. You know, that's all. I didn't know that song. You never heard that song, love rocking Bro. That's a good I did look at that. Okay, so I something so say we in Washington Heights, what's the first record? Hall ofm We? Thankment? In the Spanish Spanish Harlem, what's the.

01:12:11
Speaker 5: First Spanish harm I'm probably gonna play something by Daddy Yankee, like what's that? Uh Gasolina and that's old.

01:12:19
Speaker 1: But Jos gonna work. It's gonna work that one, with that one and now you know bad Bunny out.

01:12:28
Speaker 3: Definitely gonna go with that. Okay, let's go say we got a whole African crowd. Shout out to all my Africans, say we got an African crowd.

01:12:36
Speaker 5: What you're gonna with, Probably gonna go with them. Probably gonna go with the Soka jump boopy. Yeah, she's gonna shake. What about Jamaican Jamaican? Just about anything Jamaican.

01:12:58
Speaker 1: Because that's the funt.

01:12:59
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, that's hey, did you make That's just that's just that's you know, I'm just saying just the mindset of a DJ. That's why I think your job is kind of harder than the rapper.

01:13:11
Speaker 1: Of course it is. That's how you get up there.

01:13:14
Speaker 5: Well, I'm not gonna say you.

01:13:18
Speaker 1: Let hard it's the singers. No, No, I'm gonna give you an example. If murder if like, if you was to say, yo, yo yo, we got a d J in Boston, right, let me talk now, don't come in you all, let me talk yo. He loved your hood for the record, for me, for Melogan, I'm a rapper. Look, I used to DJ. I'm a rapper and I used to DJ.

01:13:44
Speaker 3: So if you tell me, if they say yo, it's an all white crowd, Caucasian and we go to Boston, don't say nothing to murder kick Capri.

01:13:52
Speaker 1: What record would you play in Boston? The all white record? I might throw some posts Malone on something like that. Wrong on man and I shout the post Malone. You know what I mean? You know what killer crowd. But damn and sweet Carolne, I'm starting. I'm starting with that.

01:14:16
Speaker 6: Because that's because you're not so good. Why that's why your name is not I'm not you. I'm not you, But that's what I'm starting.

01:14:26
Speaker 5: I wouldn't start.

01:14:27
Speaker 1: You never heard that ship? I never heard. But again there's a science, of course I heard, yeah, but.

01:14:35
Speaker 5: Science to everything you don't know.

01:14:37
Speaker 1: I'm starting with that. I bet you I moved the crowd. Bet you money.

01:14:42
Speaker 3: The crowd they walking out. I'm talking about all Caucasian crowd walk in. Man, that's my first record. Now when that's what I play some E d M, I'm gonna start DJ.

01:14:52
Speaker 1: That might not work either, mm hmm night. So what was depending on the crowd got you? Because there's a different white crowds exactly? Then you you know what I'm saying, you got a different So say with us, like you got to what would you play? What would I play? In the white curtain?

01:15:07
Speaker 5: It depends depends on you know who's in front of me.

01:15:10
Speaker 1: That's the thing I look at the I walk it out, look and see what's going on right down and what to do.

01:15:15
Speaker 5: Jim Watsher will do it all the time. I just look to see done. It doesn't matter if it's an arena.

01:15:20
Speaker 1: Just got I know what he means. He got that.

01:15:22
Speaker 5: I've been so used to doing it all my life. That ship is a second nature.

01:15:27
Speaker 1: Like when he go to d C he know he's gonna play some go Go ship.

01:15:30
Speaker 5: It's the way you play it, though, I know it's the way you play that.

01:15:34
Speaker 6: Sweet Caroline, you don't even know about go Go and DC, you know, Sweet Carol in Boston, Shout.

01:15:39
Speaker 1: To Boston, sweet cat. I'm not using the COPT.

01:15:45
Speaker 6: Want to know this, hies you and funk flex relationship these days, y'all, y'all in the good space, because I remember a couple of years ago with some back and forth on line, and don't sit the pants say it was never nothing because there was some drama. I say that it was drama personally, Yeah, I never know, okay, all right, it was more internet radio competition, competition, Okay, okay.

01:16:07
Speaker 1: I just wanted to know because I never spoke to you about it.

01:16:09
Speaker 5: Flex cool today is okay?

01:16:11
Speaker 1: God? After the time, Flex was.

01:16:16
Speaker 5: He needed a little tap on his hand for a minute because he was he was he's flexed like he says what he says, he does what he does. You know where you know, you step in my arena, it you know, it goes away, it goes and it was all dope though, but you.

01:16:34
Speaker 1: Step in my arena. That's how anybody post to feel like you know what I mean? He said it, that's like cocky ship.

01:16:41
Speaker 5: I liked it.

01:16:45
Speaker 1: I would love to see DJ battles the game got so how would a DJ bad? I love to see DJ DJ badd always right.

01:16:56
Speaker 6: Like you in the Flex having y'all little y'all going back and forth for a minute right now, How would how would you settle something like that?

01:17:03
Speaker 1: Like mother? How would a DJ battle? And how would you come up with a winner? Whoever? Whoever shook the crowd the best? There you go? What do you mean? Has that been done before? With the with the DJ is like that DJ battle?

01:17:20
Speaker 4: Let me murder?

01:17:21
Speaker 1: Let me this is real? Talking about it being done recently? Like you know, yeah, scenes every year you got the battle? Talking about knowing he telling me what happened? You talking about party?

01:17:34
Speaker 5: You talking about a battle that me and Flex would have dead man flex if it's me a Flex, anybody do what I do?

01:17:40
Speaker 1: How would that?

01:17:40
Speaker 4: How that he.

01:17:44
Speaker 5: And how would have been in battle?

01:17:45
Speaker 1: Oh? Right?

01:17:45
Speaker 5: God, you know what I'm saying. Whatever time, I know what you get in that hour?

01:17:49
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? Is this right?

01:17:51
Speaker 3: That's like how niggas don't got the slim dune contest, no stars do it. If you had DJ battles like a Flex versus Kid Capri.

01:17:59
Speaker 1: Nigga not, that would be crazy.

01:18:01
Speaker 3: Look not on the verses though, but like back in the days, like in the club, like the tunnels, Like in the tunnel, if you caught had to set and.

01:18:10
Speaker 1: Flex had to set, that's classic ship. But see, that's what I'm saying. I'd rather that. I don't. That's what it was about. I didn't That's what listen. I didn't want that.

01:18:22
Speaker 5: I didn't want that with me in Flex. Let's get that straight. You know what I'm saying, I don't get I don't look for the wild factor by knocking another man down, you know what I'm saying.

01:18:33
Speaker 1: So I don't pause like yeah, knock.

01:18:37
Speaker 5: That was a right, that was a little crazy.

01:18:39
Speaker 1: But but what I'm saying is, you know, I don't.

01:18:42
Speaker 5: I don't get nothing from that, so I and you know, but it was necessary because of what was going on. And the ship was funny too, because I was putting a lot of funny ship. You know, you know, it became what it became. But he has said things to a lot of people and never say anything back. You know what I'm saying, and this time something was set back in a way that it was a little stronger, and you probably thought it was gonna be but it didn't need to go no further than that. And like I said, it was impersonal. If you would have called me right in the middle of all that ship going on and said can I need you for something? I would have been right there, got you.

01:19:19
Speaker 1: It's probably Yeah, this is how I look at it.

01:19:24
Speaker 3: It's all about like like I said, you would love to see kick a pre and not not beef for nothing, but flex in a club together and whoever had the best set. To me, it's always been about the best set, like you being a party.

01:19:39
Speaker 1: And I don't like that though, hold on, but why why you don't like that?

01:19:45
Speaker 5: Because that's that's the same ship as the Kendrick and the Drake beef. It doesn't become about skill. It becomes about knocking the one that lost down. It becomes about shooting at the one that lost down. Like it becomes that. It don't become about he was dope, he won done. It becomes some other ship. And then with this Internet ship, it magnifies it to a whole other level. So that's why when You heard Ja the other day say that he didn't think battling it should be involved with anything, and nowadays that's what he meant. Not that this is based off batter but when it comes to knocking down careers and knocking down and making another narrative, motherfuckers getting shot at and all that, now it becomes something different.

01:20:30
Speaker 1: I mean, people been getting shot at. You got to have tough skin.

01:20:40
Speaker 6: Listen, you wrest one. Listen, everybody that's king rest one, everybody.

01:20:51
Speaker 3: Sharing be We know hip hop was always about competition, bro, Like, it ain't nothing negative. I know sometimes it might go to some let me talk that look, but like like like even fifty said, we from Queens, Come on, y'all. Motherfuckers got shout out on and on all that ship that nigga care resting and Queen's keep on faking it.

01:21:14
Speaker 1: Nigga, we were still listening to that ship, Like, but you know what Bro created, you can keep on taking it and Queens people faking it like what Listen, But look, the beat was so hard and what he was saying was so crazy. Niggas had the respected MC ship and beef.

01:21:33
Speaker 4: We liked it.

01:21:35
Speaker 1: Nah, say fucking Jay, don't act like you didn't like that, Shi. It was incredible.

01:21:39
Speaker 5: Sadly, I'm talking no, no, no, non doing what I said.

01:21:47
Speaker 1: What y'all said was, I'm not talking about that as fuck.

01:21:51
Speaker 7: Okay, y'all for battles being for the battle being too dope, motherfuckers, to people getting shot at because one don't like the other one because the crowd the same thing.

01:22:02
Speaker 5: They're shooting that drake at his fucking crib because and there kindred fans, because they're kindred fans.

01:22:09
Speaker 1: When it becomes that goes something different.

01:22:14
Speaker 8: That that's what I'm talking about. So, yeah, of course you want batter. It keeps your shot, it keeps your ads sharp, like yeah, And it's exactly, it's exciting, it's exactly.

01:22:26
Speaker 5: It's beautiful if it stays where it's supposed to stay like Jay and Nas did.

01:22:32
Speaker 1: They did a battle. Next thing though they're doing business with bullshit, bullshit bull how's that bullshit? That's the talk about the baby seat, not the baby seat ship with Nod's daughter, Nigga. What are you talking about talking about?

01:22:47
Speaker 3: Jay said in the battle, nothing should ever go too far, right, that's what he said. And the ship right when we look at the well in his song, what did he say? It's not about what he said on the baby seat.

01:22:58
Speaker 1: It's not about paying attention.

01:23:01
Speaker 4: You can't say this. You show this.

01:23:05
Speaker 1: It's not paying it say. It's not about what he's say, It's about the end result.

01:23:12
Speaker 4: It was a battle.

01:23:13
Speaker 5: Regardless what he said, they end up doing business afterwards, not nobody shooting at each other.

01:23:19
Speaker 1: Okay, hold on, hold on, I'm going to say something.

01:23:25
Speaker 4: No hold on, no no no no no no, no, no, no no no fuck you no, no you you listen.

01:23:37
Speaker 1: On that whole hold hold up, pause, paused, super paws. I don't know again, but get your point pause. It was too right there what I'm saying to you. Listen, Jane said. Listen.

01:23:52
Speaker 3: Jane said no, because I hate you with my I'm keeping REALM said in the interview, right your point across by.

01:23:58
Speaker 1: Jane said in the.

01:23:59
Speaker 3: Interview that battle rap goes too far right in him and knas battle. Did he refer to being in his baby mom's haul and coming on the excuse me YouTube? Ute that something on the car seat? Didn't he say that in that battle? Okay, now listen, now let me say something.

01:24:24
Speaker 1: Crazy. What I gotta say is yo, your brother, he's drunk. No he helos. But I got to my brother. I gotta give my brother, I got it, I got I gotta give him his props on that.

01:24:33
Speaker 4: You know what.

01:24:33
Speaker 6: I gotta give miss props in that, because because when you do say, when you do say battle line, some things go too far. Right between him and NOAs that was a limit too for me. I can expect that that was too far for ja. I'm not gonna front. When you think about it, it was it could have went. It could have went to the next level.

01:24:49
Speaker 4: We live it.

01:24:50
Speaker 6: It didn't, right, it didn't, But behind saying something like that it could have went to the next level, Dude, you know.

01:24:57
Speaker 1: How much personal ship real battle rappers say to each other. We're not talking about them battle.

01:25:05
Speaker 4: You know about.

01:25:09
Speaker 6: Because battle rappers is did in front of each other. They saying certain things they prepare for that, right, like they were talking about that, we're talking about battle we talking about like talking about you want to see certain ship, like you want to see.

01:25:23
Speaker 1: You surprising weapons, you want to see Drake. You want to see Drake versus Kendrick.

01:25:27
Speaker 6: Right, But people did feel like when like the little pedophile things like right, that was going too far. When when when Drake started talking about the nigga BM and and his girl and the kids and like that baby might not be in his people feel like, all right now the battery was getting a little like they're going a little left with it, right, But to criticize that, to say that, all I'm saying from what he was saying, right for Jay to say when certain thing is going too far, and then you mentioned something like kids and coming on baby seat, that was far and things could have went left. And we had social media back then, right back then, when Jay said that if social media was alive back then, that shit could have went crazy. It could have went crazy. But of course j mature now and he get it, and he realized, now, damn, certain things you say, all right, it could fuck up. You know what I'm saying, because a nigga mature now when you get it. Damn, certain things shouldn't have been said back then, you know what I'm saying. But when you're young, wane to come up, you don't understand that, or when you're in the heat of a battle, you don't really give a fuck what you're about to say. Well, you know what I'm about to destroy this nigga. I don't give a fuck HOWD destroy him. I'm a destroying its battle is beef. I'm a destroy this nigga. But social media make it feel like nowadays, because everybody gonna have an opinion, everybody gonna call me on something. Now people feel like they got a whole their tongue or bite their tongue or you can't say something now.

01:26:41
Speaker 1: But now that said, this.

01:26:42
Speaker 9: Ship was built off that, like really hip hop, hip hop was built on this. Still you're gonna disrespect him, murder he is he The DJ's are the arms dealers in the wall.

01:26:54
Speaker 1: Because once that Marca Velly should come up, come with all that marcha Velly.

01:26:58
Speaker 3: Y'all gonna play that ship. Who's shot you? You you're gonna play that. You're gonna play that ship. Drake ship come out, You're gonna play that ship. Y'all don't give a about that. I'm talking about nobody yet.

01:27:11
Speaker 1: You keep talking about battle rap. That's why I can confused shout about I know what was trying to say. I know trying to say.

01:27:19
Speaker 6: He was trying to say, battle rappers say the most disrespectful ship to each other.

01:27:23
Speaker 1: But I don't know.

01:27:24
Speaker 6: It's different with the Battle Rappers and the Rappers. You know, it is a difference. It's a difference because it's a whole.

01:27:33
Speaker 1: I don't know. I feel like it's just two different words.

01:27:35
Speaker 5: Talking about my mom's I'm gonna punch you in your ship. You talk about my mom's in the battle, I'm gonna punching your ship.

01:27:39
Speaker 1: You talking about my mom's on.

01:27:40
Speaker 5: The record, I'm gonna punch your ship.

01:27:42
Speaker 1: No different.

01:27:43
Speaker 6: But the Battle Rappers is built different for that because they I guess they used to that. They used to standing up in front of each other and disrespecting each other, saying the most dates.

01:27:52
Speaker 1: But this they used to.

01:27:54
Speaker 3: But let's but let's let's keep it. Let me ask both of you all the questions, and I'm gonna ask you all a question too, right, we'll say right like we'll watch the BIGGI and Tupac beef.

01:28:03
Speaker 1: Right. They was on Vibe.

01:28:05
Speaker 3: Magazine, Billboard magazine. Some of the biggest publications you've seen in your life was East Coast, West Coast, and you probably met Biggie n poc am. I correct, of course, there you go, right, that was the biggest shit you've seen. East Coast, West Coast. You know Sugar Night at Death Bro. We don't do the dancing and we don't do the singing.

01:28:23
Speaker 4: None of that.

01:28:24
Speaker 3: Niggas fed into now, let me talk to you about it. Every The industry feeds into all of that since way back then, East Coast, West Coast it just wasn't on the Internet. It was more the magazines and all that shit, and East Coast, West Coast it was. We knew it was a beef. Right when Biggie came with who Shot You? And fifty km, I mean, and Tupac came with Machavelli. We love that shit.

01:28:47
Speaker 1: The industry feed into it. The DJ's playing, y'all, scratching the shit out of a disrecord, come with whang stuff, whang stuff. Y'all was just playing Jia rude. But now you're playing fifty just playing Tupac. Now you're playing Biggie like, y'all.

01:29:01
Speaker 3: Niggas are the arms dealers, and then when somebody gets shot, niggas is like your peace man, yo, y'all. Niggas are the niggas that was spending the ship.

01:29:11
Speaker 1: Bill board, look bill board about that nigga Niggas playing, Yeah, niggas want to. I know, y'all, but y'all all the beef. Y'all loved the East Coach, West Coast. Everybody made money, DZ radio stations, magazines, everybody made money. Cool gas he made money. Everybody made money off the Biggie Tupac beef, and y'all niggas love that ship.

01:29:38
Speaker 3: Nigga shut out of here. Brot build that ship up to destroy it. Just oh my gosh, somebody got shot. Y'all amped it up. Y'all played the ship out of Kenswick. Record that don't just respect to him on one nigga starts shooting and we gotta keep it.

01:30:00
Speaker 1: That's why with the industry, listen, I'm.

01:30:05
Speaker 4: You can't cancel somebody that ship.

01:30:08
Speaker 1: I couldn't want the battle. That's fifty they being me from Ray Coffee, So I've been canceled. I don't care. You can't cancel me. But the industry is full of ship. Y'allamp ship up, DJ scratching the ship. Damn damn flex o yall niggas. Once bullets off flying you, we gotta keep the peace man words. The industry fun out it man.

01:30:35
Speaker 4: You kill your.

01:30:39
Speaker 1: Kicking man.

01:30:45
Speaker 3: Battle rappers are the only ones that could disrespect niggas. Get out of here, man, kid, I didn't say that.

01:30:51
Speaker 4: You said.

01:30:52
Speaker 1: They're the most disrespectful, the most disrespecful, but they know how to They the best at that. And nobody it gets killed, Nobody gets shot. What niggas be getting beat up? Shot pistol whip over your bugget and get beat up that don't know what they doing?

01:31:06
Speaker 5: You better why talk out the real battle rappers, the real ones, the real that' be tight here is they say some of the most craziest ship and after the battle was already going to drink.

01:31:16
Speaker 3: Now niggas got shot. You you bugging you can we got shot, man, niggas got shot. We could look at it up with Roy shot ye shouting battle racks shot a man out for a punch of niggas. Back in the days, nigga talking mind it was mass ship maganie slapped with guns or kind of ship. They be saying it in the raps. Later on, you gotta check it out, kicking for you gotta do your homework saying it in the raps later on your yeah, yo, your world.

01:31:41
Speaker 1: You got pistol whipping rob niggas be saying that really happened. You think gates and ship don't happen to battle rap Shut to the battle rappers. You don't show you see the more gates over there. What's my man that just got from Jersey?

01:32:04
Speaker 3: You know, Oh sir sh surfing surfn't just get out the fence. That nigga was in the fence. Nigga walk in the yard. You know his paperwork was correct. Nigga, he was a battle rapper. He got shot and all that like fifty and walk in the yard uptown polock nigga, except you talking about like it's coom by y'all over there.

01:32:27
Speaker 1: He's catching. I'm just saying, battle rappers, I don't nobody get killed your stay all, nigga.

01:32:38
Speaker 4: I'll kill you. I can't, y'all.

01:32:43
Speaker 3: Nigga, you flex everybody when he was this is y'all root Flex was dropping bombs. Nigga boom boom, yeah, Flex, Yeah, I love that ship.

01:32:55
Speaker 1: Shut up with that. You know you love that ship. You moved the crowd. Nigga came up with all that ship he was.

01:33:03
Speaker 3: He was in the ship in the eighties when niggas was getting shot and taking the bullets out theyself.

01:33:08
Speaker 1: Back then, niggas clap in the bronx. You know what, I'm niggas eighties Nigga. Kid was not around nobody shot taking the bullet out.

01:33:17
Speaker 4: He was in a nigga.

01:33:18
Speaker 1: He was in the castle and the fever real niggas and that ship.

01:33:22
Speaker 4: Was but the castle.

01:33:25
Speaker 1: I thought the fever to somebody never did the tunnel, he said, Kid was there, niggas getting shot and he takes a bullet out. Theyselves niggas in the bronx and the Castleigga was kidnapping niggas back then, niggah, you know you have to be a DJ.

01:33:42
Speaker 4: Back then.

01:33:42
Speaker 1: A whole lot has the arrow, yea, a whole lot. Man doing the whole life?

01:33:47
Speaker 6: Started a record label or type of ship, Man, college ship. How did that record label come about?

01:33:52
Speaker 1: Kid?

01:33:52
Speaker 6: How did the new record label come about? Man baking records? Man, I want my own ship. My own ship.

01:33:58
Speaker 5: Ain't got to answer body. That's right, I do, Man, that's right, that's right. Like twenty twenty three, I caught cancers. Yeah I knew about that, man did How was that whole experience?

01:34:11
Speaker 1: Man? God is definitely good man, you're here with.

01:34:14
Speaker 5: Us, Jesus dieway, Cancer and take out and so in twenty twenty, ain't nobody knew I had to do all this stuff. I brought de w g out Yankee Stadium, I hosted the BT Awards. I did, did a lot of ship and then when I got rid of it, that's when I told everybody about it. Since then, I started a business herban Reset Plus. I sell natural herbs from South South to hospital. Me and my man Rob, we got together and started a business and we sell everything from Cheney Route to Macca.

01:34:49
Speaker 1: Rule where we can find it somewhere.

01:34:50
Speaker 5: Herbureset plus dot com got it all there. Your bodies, man, because they're not gonna tell you what's right for you. They're gonna make you keep paying that money. As long as they keep making you pay that money. But if you going, you take initiative and go see what's going on, start using to doing the right thing. Keep in mind, a few months ago, maybe seven months ago, I was twenty sixty seven pounds. I lost sixty seven pounds six pounds last month.

01:35:16
Speaker 1: Congratulations and health gradulations.

01:35:17
Speaker 5: So I've been on my health shit since that incident.

01:35:20
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, How did you deal with that?

01:35:22
Speaker 4: Like?

01:35:23
Speaker 5: Mentally is That's what I'm saying. Like, dealing with that, you gotta put that in the back of your head murder because doing all the work I was doing, if you're worried about that, you won't be able to work, you know what I'm saying. And then the worrying part is what makes you sick of right. So I put it in the back of my head. The main thing was go to all the appointments, do everything I was supposed to do on time. And when I got rid of it, the doctor said to me, you know, kid, like I'm glad that you. He was like, I want to congratulate you. Was like, you know, you'd be surprised how many people will cancel and come back three months later, four months later they got much further. Now we got to work there much harder to get him get him right. Some people we can't even get right because they stayed too long. So you did all your appointments, You made everything. So me doing that and getting right, and God blessed me to be good.

01:36:11
Speaker 1: That is good, man. That's what I say.

01:36:13
Speaker 5: You know, I'm gonna just do it different, so I eat different. I got a whole different lifestyle, and how I do ship. So that's what kind of inspired the herb business and Mantel Jordan as a matter of fact, you know you can't. You just got to hit rid of his cancer. He was buying my herbs from us. Look at that, right, So it's kind of helped him along the way.

01:36:31
Speaker 1: Careful with that, you know. Doctor.

01:36:33
Speaker 3: Once you start doing that ship, niggas come and man co operations come hit you with the come and see.

01:36:40
Speaker 1: Me doctor sebby all that ship. I'm doing something with, doctor Sebbe. Do anything. Man shout to that and in Houston, and you just gotta be careful with.

01:36:54
Speaker 4: Yo. Bro.

01:36:55
Speaker 1: You don't see what's going on. You ain't see all of them mighty everything.

01:36:58
Speaker 3: So look you ain't see how like all these like nuclear scientists got smoked, like all these niggas, that astronaut niggas putting this out there. I don't give a fuck. Niggas can smoke me, nigga, damn. But like all these like nuclear scientists or you don't want to talk. You was talking about healing niggas, Nigga.

01:37:19
Speaker 1: I'm trying to heal you trying to kill them. Don't talk them about.

01:37:22
Speaker 3: Look, there was a whole bunch of scientists that got hit like mysteriously, like dying and missing like so once. Niggas don't talk about healing niggas.

01:37:29
Speaker 1: I got the herbs. Don't go to these companies, Manu that herbal plus dot com man.

01:37:38
Speaker 6: That's right, you know, sollo crazy sour sop, that's right, healthy good.

01:37:47
Speaker 1: Stuff, that good stuff.

01:37:49
Speaker 2: You know.

01:37:50
Speaker 3: We got the world's greatest DJ here. Make sure y'all like sharing, subscribe. I know this is one of the fucking crazy episodes. We talked about, the most legendary ship in the hip hop. It's the real report.

01:38:01
Speaker 1: Signing out with my nigga turbulence, turbulentce turbulence, drinking you drinking too much?

01:38:08
Speaker 4: Boys?

01:38:10
Speaker 1: Signed out.

01:38:12
Speaker 5: Lily, We got kicking Pree in the bill legend Yo, take your answer to that YouTube and watch those videos I got there. Don't play yourself kicking pre one on one of the Instagram Twitter.

01:38:24
Speaker 1: Hold on, we forgot about his daughter music to talk about.

01:38:27
Speaker 5: Love being a love, shaking being a love is doing that thing. Make sure you go to a page and look at all that ship. She is rocking crazy so fat.

01:38:35
Speaker 1: That's how all this of the week we signed fucking out. Hold up, and my boy also got inducted to the Bronx Walk of Fame.

01:38:43
Speaker 10: To the Bronx Walk of Fame, my bro creator, the Bronx Game Walk of Fame, Bronx great in the Game Fame.

01:38:58
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01:39:07
Speaker 4: It's like a part of me just died inside two.

01:39:10
Speaker 3: Hundred these two foot bowls back.

01:39:12
Speaker 6: But tonight I won't just cry because I've.

01:39:14
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01:39:21
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01:39:25
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