Harsh Realities and Never-Ending Puberty | Golden Hour

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Speaker 1: Okay, Susan, we're just going to get right into it today with the question of the day. Are you ready?

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Speaker 2: I'm ready?

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Speaker 1: All right? What do you think settling in a relationship looks like? Do you think settling is always destined for failure?

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Speaker 2: When you say the word always, that changes it. Not always sometimes, especially at our age, you know the things that you can tolerate, like not everybody's going to be perfect anymore. We're not looking for the husband or the father to be of our new children that we're going to have in our first house. It's a different look for me at this age. And yes, I guess people would say settle because of some things I do and vice versa. Yeah, how do you.

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Speaker 1: Feel, Well, I kind of agree with you in that settling.

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Speaker 2: It really does love how she says, I kind of agree with you.

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't want. I don't want your head to swell when you say settling. At our age, we know that there's always compromise in a relationship. I think for me, I think people make the mistakes sometimes of thinking, especially when they're younger, that compromise is settling and they're not the same thing. But for me, the difference is settling is going against your core beliefs, your core wants and needs.

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Speaker 2: Your checklist if you will, selling is it doesn't all have he doesn't have everything that I really wanted.

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Speaker 1: Well no, no, no, no, that's not what I'm saying, because nobody has everything that I that you want or I want. That would be you know, mister perfect, and I you know, if he's out there, please, you know, reach out to me at Bachelor nation dot com slash Golden Hour. But that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that there there are certain things that I will not budge on. And and when I was younger, for example, if the guy didn't look a certain way, I would have said, well, I'll settle for him. I'll you know that settling in a younger When you're younger, you settle, That's how you define it. For me, settling would be if I now, if I dated a man who did not have integrity, I will never date a man who does not have integrity, And if I did, I would be settling and I'll never do that. So I think it looks different. I think when you're younger, settling is is has a different meaning. But I will compromise. I think, yeah so, and I happen to agree. The word settling when you're much younger is totally different than when you're older. Yeah, I mean, they just mean different things. I don't think that settling is always destined for failure depending on what what you're settling what, Yeah, I mean, these are Life is fluid, right, We change, we mature, couples hopefully grow together. Sometimes they grow apart, and it has nothing to do with quote unquote what they settled for it.

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Speaker 2: You know, sometimes I think as I read this, could it be I've always wanted somebody that loved me unconditionally, and you're going to settle because he loves you, but you're not as much in love with him, Like that's settling.

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Speaker 1: Loves that's settling.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't do that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I've got to be head over heels.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, But I do think that relationships. I think relationships. I mean, that's a big bucket of things that break up relationships. But I don't think settling. If you're younger and you you know, you get with a guy who isn't in the profession that you, you know, I want to marry a doctor, lawyer. I think those are superficial things that change day to day and no one cares. But I think if you settle, for example, if if you not you Susan. But if somebody falls in love when they're young and they the guy cheated on them, for example, and then they say, you know what, I love Johnny. I don't know my poor son in law. I'm always using his name. Uh, Yeah, that's an easy one. I love you Johnny, I love you Sam. And Sam has said, you know, how how apologetic can he be? It will never happen again?

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: If it happens again and you settle, well, it's settling if you If so, that's if you go to the beginning. If you say, I will never date, I will never get in a serious relationship with a man who cheated on me. If that's one of my core beliefs, right, and I but I'm so in love with Sam that I think I'm the BEA's niece. He'll never cheat on me, and then he does, I've settled, right, I've gone against my core belief and so that may blow up in my face. That's just how I look at it. I think it depends on how big the settle is. That's what we said.

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Speaker 2: Before, exactly what it is you're settling.

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Speaker 1: So, Susan, could you help me find the guy so I can decide whether I'm willing to settle or not.

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Speaker 2: All right, now it's time to get to our listener write in. I'm going to start us off today, Okay, Hailey rights, Hello, Kathy and Susan. First of all, I am a big fan of both of us. So I am twenty one years old, and most of my friends have or had boyfriends already or talking to guys, and some of my friends are shyer than I am. I have tried some dating apps in the past, but I've always ended up deleting them because I never ended up talking to guys. I don't really get out that much, regardless if it's with my friends or by myself. I was just wondering if you guys have any advice for me on how I should get out more or something like that. Kathy, can I answer this for you. I know what you're going to say, join a meet up, join.

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Speaker 1: Again, I love you that as part of what I was going to say. We definitely know each other Susan, but actually, you know what I was going to say. First thing is Hayley, I find it very interesting that you say most of my friends have or had boyfriends already or at least talking to guys, and some of my friends are shyer than I am. And then well, I think that's interesting that you say that because I think, based on what you've written or you're exceptionally shy, and so I think before you put the cart before the horse, and that is before you jump into clubs and things which are going to be impossible for you to do because you're so shy. I would work on bringing yourself out a little bit, a little bit at a time. Can do you imagine being as shy as she is and going on a dating app to meet someone you've never met.

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Speaker 2: This is what I'm reading. She ends up deleting them because she never ends up talking to guys. So if somebody messages her, Hailey, are you not responding? Is that?

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. Can you imagine if you're that shy, it's hard enough to go on a date right with someone you don't know, Imagine being really shy and having to talk with them on the phone. I mean, Haley, give yourself a break. Here. What I would tell you to do is find you. Here's my advice to you. Go find your friends, the girl you know, the girlfriends that you have, and hang out with them in small groups with their boyfriends, some with their boyfriends, some not, and just get used to being around guys. So use your friends as a gateway to help you learn how to navigate dating and.

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Speaker 2: Or maybe do a road trip. A trip like Sign twenty one. So it's a group thing you go. Maybe it's singles, maybe not. But you have people chaperone, if you will, a tour guide. And I love you to the world.

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Speaker 1: I love you.

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Speaker 2: And you just told you know what you just told her. You just told her.

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Speaker 1: Listen, We're not going to start with lessons on how to float or kick your legs. We're going to take you up on the twenty meter board and have you do a dive.

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Speaker 2: That is not going on the twenty meeting board. You're going on a tour with a group of people that.

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Speaker 1: You can't even talk to guys on the internet. You think she's going to get out and take a trip. I think you've lost your mind. Really no, it's a great way to meet people. I'm not disagree.

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Speaker 2: It's a great way. You're on your own. Yet you still have the security of being in a group.

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Speaker 1: She doesn't know anyone, the girl.

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Speaker 2: Is that's nobody does when you go on a group trip.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, you know what I mean. Bachelor Nation, you guys to write in on this one. I think she's got to take baby steps, and the baby step is not going off to you know, Ethiopia.

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Speaker 2: Don't say it's not that's your opinion. That's only your opinion. It's I'm a definite not well, Haley, I'm on your team, and I think, sweet girl, you I get it. I'm not shy. Susan's not shy. In case you didn't notice, neither one of us is shy. But I think you got to take a little step with your friends, go out and just try to be a little more talkative, take a baby step towards Uh. It's hard, but it's only hard, Haley until you get out and try it. And you say, Haley that you don't get out that much, regardless whether it's with your friends or by yourself. Your first goal is to get out a little bit more. That's right. Whether it's go to church or go to go to like you're saying, an activity, or join some kind of a club.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but don't jump off a twenty meter board.

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Speaker 2: I don't want a trip, but I do think. Just call me out. I'll go with you.

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, let me just say when you when you ask, Hayley real quickly before we move on, how should I get out more? You know how you do it, Haley. You do it and you'll be scared, but it'll get easier.

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Speaker 2: That's how you might not even be fun the first time. Well, you know, let's be a little more positive. Maybe I don't want her to give up after trying once. It'll get better every time, and you'll get a little more confidence in yourself.

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Speaker 1: And let us know, Haley, we'll want to hear about this. We hope you get out.

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Speaker 2: I want to hold your hand, Kathy.

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Speaker 1: Well, and we're a big fan of you.

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Speaker 2: Haley.

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Speaker 1: Twenty one is tough. Give yourself some grace. Girlfriend, It's going to get easier. Just take it a step at a time.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for reaching out to us.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's move on anonymous rights. Hi, ladies, I need to know if I'm overreacting or just some thoughts. In general. I work with this guy for context, I'm twenty six and he's twenty four. I work mornings and he works nights. We usually see each other for barely an hour. We banter all the time, but just shoot the shit at work. We hit it off great, but it's just flirty banter. In my opinion, I kept stating in general that I just wanted friends to go out with and hang with because I moved here last year and don't know many people. He eventually gave me his number like two weeks later and we started texting. He made it known that he was attracted to me and that he wanted to hang out this upcoming week. We ended up texting not stop for like four days straight, but he just kept coming off as flirty and I wasn't giving in to any of it, strictly giving friendship vibes on my end. I thought, oh, let's keep an open mind, but it just seemed like the more we texted, he making it known he was super into me. I figured the night out would be a quote date to him. It didn't end up happening. He started making it seem sexual and like he just wanted to bang, and so I made it clear I just wanted to be friends and I'm not looking for anything serious. He then said, oh, so it seems like we're on the same page and said, let's just take it day by day and see what happens, meaning if we hang and it happens, then.

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Speaker 2: So be it.

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Speaker 1: I feel played, I feel like an object. I made this all clear and said I don't think we should be friends anymore, because I thought he genuinely wanted to be friends. He ended up apologizing and saying he was high all night and wanted to be friends and was like eighty percent joking. I feel icky. We were vibing so well, you were sorry that was editorializing and I was excited for the friendship. Am I being dramatic? We see each other at work and he tries to talk to me and tell to me occasionally, but I'm a bit uncomfortable and bummed. I know it was just him making comments and nothing more, so am I in the wrong? But at the same time, it made me feel super weird and like he wasn't coming with good intentions. It just felt like zero to one hundred.

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Speaker 2: What do you think? I have mixed feelings each paragraph? I thought another way. In the beginning, it was some people might call it flirting, but it was just banter. And when a man notices that a woman's giving him attention, that's a normal process. And then you're exchanging numbers. So I think you were taken back by all the texting and such, but that's maybe you should have said it in the very beginning. But then she thought, well, maybe right, And then he did apologize he was out of line. He got too carried away and was still willing to just be friends and get to know each other. Because you don't know, sweetheart, you might have liked the guy who knows he came on a little strong, but unfortunately, and you know, I've been accused of the same thing. Like I'm giving somebody attention. They think I'm flirting with them and I'm not. I just want to have somebody to laugh with, or you know. So I get what she's saying.

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Speaker 1: But so I'm agreeing with you. Mostly I agree with you. I think she should have set it up front, but.

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Speaker 2: I have nobody to hang out with.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm looking for a friend, but that's okay. And then, like you said, she was going to keep an open mind. Here's where I here's where it goes a little off for me when he started making it sexual. And he then said, so it seems like we're on the same page and said, let's just take it day by day and see what happens. That was her opportunity to say, I just want to be friends. I think she feels played because he was like, hey, maybe it'll turn into sexual something sexual that.

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Speaker 2: Was, or maybe it would turn into something a little more than but.

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Speaker 1: She says she feels played. So I'm I'm seeing a little disconnect here. All you had to say, Anonymous, was you shouldn't feel played. You should have made your intentions very clear and then and you didn't. So you know, he's a guy, and we all know guys do what guys do. Unfortunately, and he did apologize. But here's the thing. When he says he was high all night, yeah, a little, that's a little bit of a flag. But then he says he wanted to be friends and was eighty percent joking, which you know eighty percent.

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Speaker 2: What that statement told me was he is interesting. He is, and he'll back down and let you come to I think she's being a little bit dramatic, but she's also new to this town, right, she doesn't know many people, and that's scary. She's being careful. I get it.

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Speaker 1: I'm saying I think I don't I don't. You know me. I'm always like to female power and all that. But Anonymous, I've got to say, you know, I don't care if he's high, I don't care if he's eighty percent serious. I don't try to put the moves on you. All you had to say was Hey, Johnny, I'm I'm slow your role. I'm in this for a friendship. And if it felt like it was zero to one hundred, girlfriend, it's because you didn't apply the brakes so.

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Speaker 2: And you initiated the banter like well, I don't know who initiated, but you did. You look like you were having fun together. Let's take it outside of work and see if we still have fun. And he's an idiot for starting to get all that, you know, you know whatever, I don't, but I don't think you should be all uncomfortable.

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Speaker 1: Here's where I would take it anonymous. If you if you are interested in having it as a friend, then I would say to them, hey, let's put all this behind us. You know we weren't to Yeah, let's start. I'd love to be your friend. Let's let's go out and get a cheeseburger, whatever it is that you know you'd want to do. Give out the friend vibes, you know, talk about friend stuff and see if you can make a friend out of this. Because you are new to the town and he could become a good friend of yours. So I'm wishing you well. I hope that you make a good friend from him, and I also hope that you're more clear with the guys the next time if you're really only if she's friendship. I mean, I understand, but it's up to us as women to say to a guy if he's put in the moves always. I don't care at any age, Susan. And you know, I've just been through this with a guy who is very interested in me and I only see him as a friend, and I've had to tell him three times and that's on me, and.

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Speaker 2: I think that he keeps hoping for more than hoping me.

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Speaker 1: He can hope, you know what, As as my ex father in law used to say, you can wish in one hand and shit in the other and see what fills up.

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Speaker 2: First, all right, I'm excited about this next one. Before we move on, we actually have an update from one of our listeners. Are you so excited?

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Speaker 1: I'm so excited?

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Speaker 2: All right? Okay, So hi ladies. I don't know if you remember that this time last year I reached out for advice because I was so nervous about moving in with my boyfriend. I was so independent and happy living on my own. Well, I'm appreciative of that time. I had with myself. It's been a year living with my boyfriend and it's been great. By the way, I am a girl that was asked in the episode. I laughed at the joke you said about me treating this like jail time aka moving in with my boyfriend. I think you said that goud. Ironically, that episode came out on the day I moved out of my apartment. It's the universe. I listened to it while I got ready to pack up the last of my things and move. It was so special hearing your advice at the time I needed it most. I know. I got goosebumps. It's been a wonderful year of growth for our relationship, and I think there's an engagement coming soon.

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Speaker 1: I got goods bumps. Okay, wait, can I just interrupt for one second if you're if you're listening, we just need you to know that Susan's a wedding officio.

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Speaker 2: Yes, ses, I'll be there anyways. Thank you for lightening the mood with my concerns and helping me with my nerves. I still miss my old girl apartment at times, but this has been a wonderful move for me and my boyfriend, and we are finally looking forward to future plans. Thank you, Kathy and Susan. PS. Kathy is a star own Bachelor in Paradise. Love you guys.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I love this. I love this this. I don't know about you, Susan. This update has made my day because because you and I have so much fun doing this podcast and dishing out advice, and as we always say, we're not psychologists or anything, but we've lived a lot of life and to get such a fabulous update, I'm so happy for.

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Speaker 2: We don't think we just do it on air. We talk about these things afterwards. We always are curious. I wonder whatever happened with or I wonder if she hit him with the bat, or I wonder if that was you.

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Speaker 1: Susan. I'm so happy for you. I hope that there is much I hope that there is a wedding in your future.

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Speaker 2: Please let us go.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and if Susan comes, I come. We come as a team absolutely all right, we are going to move into ready, Susan, We're gonna have some girl chat instead of it, and we're doing this instead of a game. So this should make you happy. This is this is sort of like our golden spotlight.

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Speaker 2: Only.

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Speaker 1: This segment is for women of all ages. Today, we're talking all about bodily changes. We'll be giving off some rapid fire advice. Okay, I'm gonna start us off for the first prompt.

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right.

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Speaker 1: Most women are taught that your body only changes during puberty and when you get pregnant. Have you seen your body change over the years in the wood?

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Speaker 2: Come to bear shit.

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Speaker 1: In the woods? I mean yeah, how much of I mean not how much?

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Speaker 2: What has the biggest.

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Speaker 1: Change been for you since let's call it not puberty, let's go with menopause.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, completely change. But what I was going to say was we change our bodies everything every seven years. It's no snake shedding our skins.

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Speaker 1: What are you talking about?

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Speaker 2: No, but we do. Our body chemistry changes. We are constantly changing when it comes to our bodies. We definitely have seen changes, some good, some bad, some you know what I mean. That's life. Yeah, it's not just a puberty. City is big true, because your boobs pop out and you're you know, you get a period and all that. Being a woman that is, and it's going to change continually.

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Speaker 1: I think that, Yes, I agree, but I do think for those of you listening with with girls young and daughters who are maybe in their twenties, thirties, forties, whatever. I don't think there is enough conversation about how much our bodies change after childbearing, years after menopause, and as you say, it keeps changing. But the good news is there are lots of things that we can do to help us feel better. It's not necessarily I mean, everyone knows you and I did those lower facelifts. That's about making us feel better. But I'm talking about there's things that there's things that we can do to make our bodies feel better, and not just exercise. There's supplements, there's all kinds of treatments that you can have exercising that that will stave off, if you will, the bad parts of getting older, because aging is not all fun and games, and.

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Speaker 2: The most important part, like you said, and I'm going to elaborate on it, Kathy, is knowing that this is normal. Being educated, right what you started with, Most women are taught that your body changes during puberty and then again when you get pregnant, and then it stops the conversations. My goodness, you're still growing taller, You're still growing wider or thinner or it's just.

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Speaker 1: But but I think the conversation is the three biggest things are well birth of course, but puberty, pregnancy, and menopause. And I think so little women I don't know feel I don't feel this way, but I think women feel shame sometimes because you know, they can't have children anymore, and what they're not useful anymore. And I mean I've talked to some women in their sixties. I didn't either waistline went with menopause. You know what, I never got a waste and.

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Speaker 2: That is a body change. I mean, we can't control it. I don't care how much you exercise. Your body changes. And it's hormonal. All of this is hormones.

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Speaker 1: But I will say I have to say one thing. A lot of women on my inside, on my social media, they'll write to me things like, wow, Kathy, you look great. What's your what's your trick? And I'm going to say it right here. There are no tricks, you know, Susan. I work out, I lift weights, I power off five Yeah, but I take I do it because it makes me feel better, but it also helps me look better, keeps my body, my bones.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: Motion is lotion, right, And so I think some people use menopause as an excuse to you know, sit down in the chair and eat ice cream and in their best days of behind them.

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Speaker 2: If you have a child, the next on saying like, yes, everything changes, you're hit with changes because the baby. Most babies come through the canal. It's part of nature.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And you know what advice I have for those women, be so grateful that you were able to bring you and your partner were able to bring this miracle to life. And again, eat well, get rest, work out. Your body's going to change. It's about being healthy. It's about doing the things that will make you feel good about yourself. But you don't want the body so what it does.

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Speaker 2: But that's that's okay, that's right.

00:26:44
Speaker 1: And the letter comes after the letter B. That's right. Expect it to change, and it's some things go back to normal. Something stone. I mean, I am going to tell you, uh, those.

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Speaker 2: Perky booths fall down to your waist, sign your pennies and haven't brought back that's all.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I was going to say deflated balloons, but you know they still get the job done. You know, I've never had a man turn away from me because my boobs were not, you know, coming out of my neck. So that's why.

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Speaker 2: What are some unexpected changes that you noticed at any age, like how you carry your weight, or did anything happen that fell out of the blue, Like you shared with us that when you were young you were heavier. Yes, and that big change came when you made up your mind and you started your walking and you're exercising and you're extremely fit. But that came out of the blue, right, what came out? You made up your mind I am not going to be two hundred pounds.

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Speaker 1: Yes, well it didn't come out. Yes, it sort of came out a little bit, yes, it it. It came out of the blue in that I decided made a choice, You made a choice. I think unexpected changes are just the ones you don't know about, Like, uh, you know all women know this dryness during sex. I mean that you know that was unexpected. I didn't think it was going to happen quite as quickly as it did. But again, there's lots of things you can do for that, so there's ways around it. So I don't know unexpected. I think it's everyone's responsible for educating themselves, don't you and so if you if you're feeling these changes, I think sometimes depression women feel depressed or.

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Speaker 2: That that comes out of the blue sometimes too right, the best days of their body, that's your chemistry and you know the serotonin and.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, yes, and I think I, I mean, it didn't really happen for me. I but I already know I'm a weirdo. I don't feel like my best days are behind me. I feel like there's great days ahead of me. I'm living great days. I've lived great days. I think that is something that women. I wish more women would be motivated to do what it takes to feel better about themselves.

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Speaker 2: Does that make sense? This is a perfect question for you. What advice would you give to young women struggling with their body image, especially in today's world filled with ozempic and AI.

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Speaker 1: Well, again, my advice is what I just said. First of all, most of the pictures you see on social media, everything's airbrushed. They've done everything they can to reconstitute a picture to make that person look like Barbie. Uh and and that's not reality. And my advice is, don't pay attention to what you see on social media. As far as ozempic and those things if you if you need ozempic, I'm a purist. If you need ozempic, I think it's for treat diabetes.

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Speaker 2: Right. Sisters are both on it right now. My sister lost but she's no longer a diabetic and she said that the doctor, are you going to take me off now? He said no, no, that's what's keeping you from being it. So it does help something.

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Speaker 1: So but here's the thing. The question was women struggling with their body image. I have a problem, and I guess ozembic is never going to come to me and offer me a brandale. But I don't subscribe to women using drugs off label that have not been studied enough. The studies are now coming out that not such a good thing. So I feel like the advice is eat healthy, work out, don't look for a quick fix for your body.

00:30:43
Speaker 2: I have to call you out on something, girlfriend, and it's because I love you and I tell you this often. You still struggle with body image.

00:30:52
Speaker 1: I know I do. What's your point?

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Speaker 2: What what you're giving advice out? You need to follow your own Mike absolutely amazing, and I'm not going to say for your age, you look amazing if anything, you're too skinny, but you pick out the flaws. Now, we're here to give advice for people struggling like you. Yes, by advice to tell them. The advice is try, I try to be kind to myself. I have body dysmorphia. You and I'm talking about this, so I'm saying, be kind yourself. I try to look in the mirror and say it's okay, it's okay, Kathy, you look okay, don't And when you put a dress on and you see the picture, how great you look going on Paradise. You look fabulous in your dresses. Doesn't that like.

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Speaker 1: It does help? But Paradise, that's a tough That was a really tough one for me. And we've talked about this.

00:31:46
Speaker 2: Because you're around twenty and thirty year old.

00:31:48
Speaker 1: Well, these girls look like I mean, I love them all dearly, but I was the only one not in a bikini. Well some of the goldens were not. But you know, body image is a real thing. I and I think it's honestly susan worse worse for younger people because they're so invested in AI and social media, And what I want them to know is that's not real. So I do the best I can. I work out, I eat well. I try to tell myself, and that's I try to self talk, and that would be my advice.

00:32:20
Speaker 2: You know. Also, we've come a long way since everybody looked like twigg eat when I grew up, and now they're full body models and way bigger.

00:32:31
Speaker 1: No, they call them Kirby, call them kurvy. That's the label now curby.

00:32:35
Speaker 2: Well, I don't care what the label is. But it's okay to be a bigger or thicker, or you know, full bodied. It's okay today.

00:32:54
Speaker 1: I want beauty standards to be reflecting what women really look like in real life. That but but I does not go to get the fact. It does not negate the fact that I want all women, men, children, everyone to eat healthy, exercise, and and the goal should not be to be skinny as a rail so you fit into your size two's whatever. The goal should be to feel good, to look healthy, to have energy, to be able to move your body in a healthy way. So I know I sound like a preacher here, but I wish beauty standards. I don't want healthy.

00:33:36
Speaker 2: I do that, but I also eat unhealthy.

00:33:39
Speaker 1: Everyone does eat everyone does. But I'm saying it's it's like everything in life moderation, and I don't like seeing people using uh.

00:33:51
Speaker 2: The just for a quick fix, yes.

00:33:54
Speaker 1: Because that's you know what, It's not going to work.

00:33:56
Speaker 2: But it has helped so many people, so I'm not knocking it.

00:34:00
Speaker 1: No, no, no. Zeppych is a life changer for people with diabetes wonderful, and it's a life changer for people apparently who are overweight. But I would like to see the world work at being better and.

00:34:13
Speaker 2: Not judge people because of what they look like.

00:34:17
Speaker 1: Do you think that's ever going to happen.

00:34:19
Speaker 2: I hope so, But you know what, we're out of time and that does it for today's episode of Bachelor Happy Hours, Golden Hopp.

00:34:27
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00:34:37
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00:34:52
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00:35:05
Speaker 2: Mm hmm