Sony Shuts Down Bluepoint Games

<v Speaker 1>Hey, everybody, welcome to Game Mess Mornings with Me Jeff
<v Speaker 1>Grab your host from Giant Bomb. Thank you for tuning in.
<v Speaker 1>In this episode, we're going to be talking about what's
<v Speaker 1>going on with Blue Point and PlayStation and the future
<v Speaker 1>of game development in North America. It's gonna be a
<v Speaker 1>good one because we have Jason Finelli on the show.
<v Speaker 2>Jason, how are you doing?
<v Speaker 3>I am doing great on what has already been a
<v Speaker 3>freaky Friday. Here in hasbea Finelli. The school's lights went out,
<v Speaker 3>so I had to pick the kids up. WHOA, that's
<v Speaker 3>really freaky. Transformer right across the street from the school.
<v Speaker 3>Blue knocked out my internet for twenty minutes. I was
<v Speaker 3>sweating it, but here I am. Yeah, so they I
<v Speaker 3>had to pick up up about ten thirty. They're upstairs
<v Speaker 3>playing their tablets and eating snacks. Happiest claims. We're supposed
<v Speaker 3>to go to a family bingo tonight at the school.
<v Speaker 3>Not sure if that's gonna happen anymore, but weird, weird
<v Speaker 3>do We had a lot of rain overnight again, even
<v Speaker 3>this morning. I woke up about uh, woke up about
<v Speaker 3>six point thirty, was pouring, So I guess Transformer was
<v Speaker 3>just like, fuck this shit, I'm out And that was
<v Speaker 3>the end of that. But other than that, it's been
<v Speaker 3>a good week. Well, I mean it's not. It's it's
<v Speaker 3>also a freaky and that people in power are actually
<v Speaker 3>suffering some consequences this morning.
<v Speaker 1>That's very bizarre. I don't know if you saw that.
<v Speaker 1>Is this beyond the Prince Andrew stuff? Like, is someone
<v Speaker 1>else get in consequences?
<v Speaker 3>Have you not seen the ruling from the Supreme Court? No, no,
<v Speaker 3>I have not. Just tell me, let's let's do it.
<v Speaker 3>Six' three struck down the tariffs fucking. GO i did
<v Speaker 3>not see, This, okay did not see? That oh, boy
<v Speaker 3>you should probably look that. Up that might be something
<v Speaker 3>we want to talk about. Here, yeah they struck. DOWN
<v Speaker 3>i HAVEN'T i haven't seen the full like opinions. YET
<v Speaker 3>i haven't gone through. Those but in a six', three,
<v Speaker 3>ruling Uh The supreme court decided That those trump tavits.
<v Speaker 3>Were illegal he could not bypass the congressional approval to.
<v Speaker 3>Get them there was one quote flipping Around and i'll
<v Speaker 3>look for IT as i, mumble here that basically was
<v Speaker 3>like he needs to show here it is, according accordingly
<v Speaker 3>the president must point out to clear congressional authorization to
<v Speaker 3>justify as extraordinary assertion of the power to. Impose tariffs. He,
<v Speaker 3>cannot yeah.
<v Speaker 1>So, yeah yeah let's SEE The U supreme court ruled
<v Speaker 1>sixty three unilaterally imposing sweeping global tariffs Under The International
<v Speaker 1>Emergency Economic powers act that he can't. Do that, the
<v Speaker 1>ruling Authored By Chief Justice, john roberts struck down the
<v Speaker 1>bulk of the administration's, tarff program specifically those implemented Using
<v Speaker 1>the emergency powers to address trade deficits in. Drug, trafficking,
<v Speaker 1>OKAY well i mean the concern here For for, Trump,
<v Speaker 1>was okay.
<v Speaker 2>This is gonna.
<v Speaker 1>Do it what are we gonna do with all that money,
<v Speaker 1>we collected because now that money was. Collected illegally figure, it, Out,
<v Speaker 1>bitch like let's go, that's right, all, right cool that's
<v Speaker 1>nice to.
<v Speaker 2>Hear that that'll be a little bit.
<v Speaker 1>Of relief it's still going to, be Uncertainty and america
<v Speaker 1>is a weird place to do business and the rest
<v Speaker 1>of the world's going to feel that for a. Long
<v Speaker 1>time the damage is already done in a lot. Of
<v Speaker 1>ways but this is better than, the alternative. For Sure, All,
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<v Speaker 1>Hello YouTube, all right we have a lot to, get
<v Speaker 1>into so let's start the. Show with here's the email
<v Speaker 1>about why PlayStation shut down a studio that put out,
<v Speaker 1>Great games Sonia's Closed Blue.
<v Speaker 2>Point studios.
<v Speaker 1>Ethan gotcha kataku was able to get the internal email
<v Speaker 1>that has a little bit more of. An explanation although
<v Speaker 1>it's not going to, satisfy anybody let's just go ahead
<v Speaker 1>and read. This story sony is Shutting Down Blue point
<v Speaker 1>games just five years after. Buying It herman holst said
<v Speaker 1>the decision was the result of an increasingly challenging industry
<v Speaker 1>environment and a note to Staff. On Thursday herman holst
<v Speaker 1>is one of the people in charge of PlayStation at.
<v Speaker 1>This point it's a shocking in for a Studio that
<v Speaker 1>holst himself admits delivered exceptional experiences for the. PlayStation community
<v Speaker 1>it comes despite a recent jump in Profits for sony's.
<v Speaker 1>Gaming division they're up nineteen percent. LAST quarter i wanted
<v Speaker 1>to share an update from the, studio business the, message
<v Speaker 1>said and basically he Starts, by sam we had a
<v Speaker 1>lot of wins and a lot. Of highlights then, he
<v Speaker 1>says at the, same time we're operating in an increasingly challenging.
<v Speaker 1>Industry environment rising, development costs slowed, industry growth changing, player
<v Speaker 1>behavior and broader economic headwinds are making it harder to build.
<v Speaker 1>Games sustainably to navigate, this reality we need to continue adapting.
<v Speaker 1>And evolving we've taken a close look at our business
<v Speaker 1>to ensure we're delivering today while still well positioned for.
<v Speaker 1>The future as, a result we will Be Closing bluepoint Games.
<v Speaker 1>In march this decision was not. Made lightly bluepoint is
<v Speaker 1>an incredibly talented team and their technical expertise has delivered
<v Speaker 1>exceptional experiences for the. PlayStation community i want to thank
<v Speaker 1>Everyone at bluepoint for, their, creativity craftsmanship and commitment. To quality,
<v Speaker 1>where possible we will work to find opportunities for some
<v Speaker 1>impacted employees within our global network. Of studios seventy people
<v Speaker 1>are due to be laid off from this in losing.
<v Speaker 2>Their jobs and people are mad.
<v Speaker 1>And, confused jason There was they're trying To, promote, marathon
<v Speaker 1>right they got a social media Post. About marathon all
<v Speaker 1>of the replies to that, are like we Don't, want
<v Speaker 1>marathon bring Back blue point, and, yeah fair, YOU know
<v Speaker 1>i have my thoughts about what.
<v Speaker 2>Happened Here, but jason what do you think is?
<v Speaker 3>Going on this is a absolute lute Travesty if i'm, Being,
<v Speaker 3>honest like and people want to Jump On herman holtz
<v Speaker 3>because he's, the Messenger and i'm not saying he's completely
<v Speaker 3>without fault, here either but you need don't need to
<v Speaker 3>remember The whole live service gas initiative, was initiated initiated
<v Speaker 3>under the umbrella Of One, jim ryan and then he,
<v Speaker 3>fucked off, he retired he went off and did his.
<v Speaker 3>Own thing So now herman's here left holding the. Bag
<v Speaker 3>again not to say he's completely, without FAULT but i
<v Speaker 3>don't put it entirely. On him but even in, that
<v Speaker 3>regard you buy a studio that specializes in remakes, and
<v Speaker 3>remasters what are you supposed to do?
<v Speaker 2>With?
<v Speaker 3>It jeff what should you do?
<v Speaker 2>With?
<v Speaker 1>IT remasters i would have to Make A god Who
<v Speaker 1>our live.
<v Speaker 2>Service game but that's. Just, me ah? Would, You.
<v Speaker 3>Well Jesus. Fucking christ BUT like i, MEAN it i
<v Speaker 3>FEEL sometimes i Feel like i'm crazy because the THEMES
<v Speaker 3>think i can't. It talk things seem. So simple you
<v Speaker 3>buy a, remake studio have them. Do remakes they were
<v Speaker 3>rumbored to DO the mgs one remake until that TURNED
<v Speaker 3>into mgs Three. Through konami there is an entire Library
<v Speaker 3>of sony games that have not been touched, in years
<v Speaker 3>that are primed for. A remake you mean to tell
<v Speaker 3>me there's not an, audience for, LET'S say i, don't
<v Speaker 3>Know a Legend of dragoon remake or remaster or sequel.
<v Speaker 3>Or something why on earth would you buy this studio and, Then,
<v Speaker 3>say hey you're gonna make a live service Game about God,
<v Speaker 3>of war which to this point has been a, single
<v Speaker 3>player narrative driven experience for its. Entire existence but you're
<v Speaker 3>gonna make a live service multiplayer game because that's where
<v Speaker 3>things are. Going by whoever came up with that idea
<v Speaker 3>should have been thrown onto the, street immediately, But, no
<v Speaker 3>unfortunately eighty to one hundred developers the name the number
<v Speaker 3>eludes me at, the moment are being thrown out into
<v Speaker 3>the street and said and it's. Fucking.
<v Speaker 1>Bullshit yeah, i'm like, You know i've been trying to
<v Speaker 1>parse this since, last night and, YOU know i think
<v Speaker 1>there's a couple of signifiers here of how things got.
<v Speaker 2>To, this point why.
<v Speaker 1>They happen people did point out that the leader of
<v Speaker 1>bluepointant like when they, got acquired, was like we don't
<v Speaker 1>want to just keep, making remix we also want to
<v Speaker 1>do our. OWN games i don't know how that turns
<v Speaker 1>Into a God of our live service. Game necessarily that
<v Speaker 1>doesn't sound like what he was trying to say. To
<v Speaker 1>ME so i think what really happens there is you
<v Speaker 1>get acquired, by PlayStation and, PlayStation, says look the remix,
<v Speaker 1>are great but you are a studio Based, In, austin
<v Speaker 1>texas and that comes with a certain level, of costs
<v Speaker 1>and so we're gonna want to grow.
<v Speaker 2>You growth we want growth.
<v Speaker 1>From you so that might mean doing something, even bigger,
<v Speaker 1>more original or, live service because the potential return on
<v Speaker 1>that is. Even higher and the people who are gonna
<v Speaker 1>get a lot of money from being, acquired, go, okay
<v Speaker 1>yeah we.
<v Speaker 2>See that what you, Mean there we'll see if we
<v Speaker 2>can make.
<v Speaker 1>That happen and it's like everyone is sort of just
<v Speaker 1>trying to act act in their best interest while operating
<v Speaker 1>in an environment that sort of just necessarily leads people
<v Speaker 1>to these decisions, of well they're good at, making remakes
<v Speaker 1>but we need to make, more money even more money
<v Speaker 1>than the, remix makes so what are? The options and
<v Speaker 1>everyone just looks around at that time and says.
<v Speaker 2>LIVE service.
<v Speaker 1>I think then we get this announcement in the state
<v Speaker 1>of play Of the God of, war one two and,
<v Speaker 1>three remake and we don't know who's, making that but
<v Speaker 1>It's not, Bluepoint obviously AND what i heard is that
<v Speaker 1>game was getting discussed to go into. The work so the,
<v Speaker 1>last year which would have been right around the Time
<v Speaker 1>That blue point was looking around like for their next
<v Speaker 1>project After the God of work then. Got canceled so,
<v Speaker 1>it's like why not just pair? Them UP and i
<v Speaker 1>think they're screaming at us why they're not. Doing that
<v Speaker 1>it's too expensive to Have an american studio. Do that
<v Speaker 1>it is that when they can just go to a
<v Speaker 1>bunch of other companies and other parts of the world
<v Speaker 1>that have a fraction of, the cost and it really
<v Speaker 1>could be a fraction and, it's like, Oh boy so
<v Speaker 1>what does that mean for the rest Of the american video. Game,
<v Speaker 1>industry well it's going to go the way Of the american.
<v Speaker 1>Animation industry and In The north american. Animation industry, you
<v Speaker 1>know there used to be a lot of Animators. In
<v Speaker 1>california now if you're not Working, at disney you're not.
<v Speaker 1>Working there those jobs have Gone, to vancouver and those Jobs, in,
<v Speaker 1>vancouver well that industry is Growing in canada. Right now
<v Speaker 1>you could already see it's going to that's not going to,
<v Speaker 1>be sustainable that those jobs are going to Go to
<v Speaker 1>india and other places where they're not just having them
<v Speaker 1>do in, betweens anymore which, are oh the ideas are
<v Speaker 1>Done In north america and then all the grunt work is.
<v Speaker 1>Done elsewhere. That's, changing directors writers are coming up in those.
<v Speaker 1>Other spaces they're becoming there's already millions of talented people in.
<v Speaker 1>These countries now they're, like saying we could do that work,
<v Speaker 1>as well and you could pay us less, as well
<v Speaker 1>and those jobs are swiftly. Moving on same things happening in.
<v Speaker 1>Video games and, YOU know i think we looked back
<v Speaker 1>at like, twenty twelve, twenty thirteen, twenty fourteen and we're
<v Speaker 1>looking at the direction, of GAMES and i remember saying
<v Speaker 1>over and over again And That jason truyer wrote a book,
<v Speaker 1>about it video game development, is unsustainable and this is what,
<v Speaker 1>we meant like it was unsustainable for the way we were.
<v Speaker 1>Doing things and now This is. Sony screaming he says it's.
<v Speaker 1>Not sustainable he said we need to do it in
<v Speaker 1>a more. Sustainable way that's him saying the way they're
<v Speaker 1>doing it now. Is unsustainable so my question is if
<v Speaker 1>this is the way that things are Going where, american
<v Speaker 1>corporations which, includes PlayStation they shifted their headquarters Headquarters to
<v Speaker 1>california about a. Decade Ago if american corporations are looking,
<v Speaker 1>around saying we Don't need American And north, american developers
<v Speaker 1>we could get the same results from working with cheaper.
<v Speaker 1>Labor elsewhere how long is it before that cheaper labor
<v Speaker 1>elsewhere stands up, and says why do We Need north?
<v Speaker 1>American corporations like what they what do they? Give us
<v Speaker 1>this is them, Sort of this is the capitalist selling
<v Speaker 1>the rope to the person who would. Hang them this,
<v Speaker 1>is like, you know not saying there's, any. Back guys
<v Speaker 1>so that's Not what i'm trying. To apply i'm, saying
<v Speaker 1>that like the capitalists would naturally just do the thing
<v Speaker 1>that will destroy them in the long run because they
<v Speaker 1>don't see that. Far ahead and that's where we are
<v Speaker 1>With the american video, game industry and it's it doesn't
<v Speaker 1>feel like it feels like it's like ready for even
<v Speaker 1>more collapse as the sort of scaffolding falls apart that's
<v Speaker 1>holding this all together and one of these like, you Know,
<v Speaker 1>Ten cent nexxon all these other companies begin to take
<v Speaker 1>more of the resources away in this global marketplace, for
<v Speaker 1>labor and it's going to leave, You know american corporations
<v Speaker 1>behind in, some way.
<v Speaker 2>They'll find ways to navigate.
<v Speaker 1>That whatever in, the meantime it just feels like we're
<v Speaker 1>going to get less and less innovative stuff from, traditional
<v Speaker 1>companies and so we necessarily have to be looking elsewhere
<v Speaker 1>for cool games because they're not going to do.
<v Speaker 3>It, themselves yeah if you're an, indie developer or if
<v Speaker 3>you have an indie an idea and a way to,
<v Speaker 3>gather capital now's the time because there is NO triple
<v Speaker 3>a resistance at. The moment they all seem to be spinning,
<v Speaker 3>their wheels even when they're releasing, good, games right even
<v Speaker 3>when a game comes out Like like Ghost of yota
<v Speaker 3>is a. Great, Example yeah place had a Hit with
<v Speaker 3>Ghost of yote, last year so we're still here talking
<v Speaker 3>about how they're. In trouble xbox Had The outer, worlds
<v Speaker 3>too so they're still in. Deep shit nintendo had, a
<v Speaker 3>couple and they may be in less, deep shit but
<v Speaker 3>they're they're doing weird stuff in. Other ways it's it's it's.
<v Speaker 3>It's depressing, but also if you want to look at
<v Speaker 3>a class, half full that just means that innovation is
<v Speaker 3>going to come from, new names and new innovation MEANS
<v Speaker 3>new ip means the new tent poles of. The future
<v Speaker 3>so there is WHILE while i don't ever want to
<v Speaker 3>see anyone lose, their jobs, AND god i hope somebody
<v Speaker 3>takes this entire studio and just reforms them somehow and
<v Speaker 3>lets them do whatever. THEY want i don't know how that,
<v Speaker 3>would happen but there is there is some hope in
<v Speaker 3>there as dire as.
<v Speaker 1>The, SCENES well i think like for people who play,
<v Speaker 1>video games, You're right, we're like, honestly like this is.
<v Speaker 1>The thing where with the nineteen eighty, three crash AT
<v Speaker 1>which i will continue to say was affected, GAMING globally
<v Speaker 1>i know that's very like pointed the reason they affected,
<v Speaker 1>gaming globally and people, are, like, well no we were
<v Speaker 1>flying playing Games, in europe what are you?
<v Speaker 2>Talking About?
<v Speaker 1>In japan we were flying playing Games in america was.
<v Speaker 1>Fine too people did not notice that there was a
<v Speaker 1>crash because they kept, playing games and all that really
<v Speaker 1>happened was games got cheaper at the store and people, are, like,
<v Speaker 1>oh like buy even. More games the consumer did not
<v Speaker 1>notice for the, most part and the.
<v Speaker 2>Same thing kind of could.
<v Speaker 1>Happen here we'll notice a, little BIT especially us people
<v Speaker 1>paying a lot. Of attention but like games will, keep
<v Speaker 1>coming they'll just be coming from, different places And the
<v Speaker 1>fortnites are going to chug, right along, you know absorbing
<v Speaker 1>as much money. As Possible Grand theft auto six is
<v Speaker 1>going to. Come out it's going to have its own
<v Speaker 1>games as YOU know, ugc platform and that will be
<v Speaker 1>like grabbing headlines and tons of. Disposable income people for
<v Speaker 1>the most part won't notice because we'll just keep buying game.
<v Speaker 1>From elsewhere it'll just be these corporations that will end
<v Speaker 1>up paying the price because they did not have the
<v Speaker 1>foresight to sort of own the pipeline in a real.
<v Speaker 1>Tangible way and when they did own the pipeline coming
<v Speaker 1>out of, the pandemic, they're.
<v Speaker 2>Like well.
<v Speaker 1>We can't we don't see the immediate benefit of saving
<v Speaker 1>money from from making this Game in texas as opposed to,
<v Speaker 1>Somewhere else so we are just not gonna. Do that and, it's,
<v Speaker 1>like man there's got to be a like, you're okay
<v Speaker 1>let's say you have you Are, having virtuos The Middle
<v Speaker 1>gear Solid three delta team doing, the Medal doing God of,
<v Speaker 1>war one two. And three you could Probably have bluepoint
<v Speaker 1>also do something and maybe the profit margin won't be,
<v Speaker 1>as large but it will still be more profit on
<v Speaker 1>top of the prophet you're Making from God. Of, WAR
<v Speaker 1>like i don't think there's any Way That blue point
<v Speaker 1>remaking a big game or even like a medium, size game,
<v Speaker 1>like well think of like a PlayStation ONE.
<v Speaker 2>Like rpg Or. Ape, escape yeah have them.
<v Speaker 1>Do that like, it's like if they make, IT big
<v Speaker 1>i feel big. And important they could really still make
<v Speaker 1>a lot. Of money so it just feels like it's
<v Speaker 1>not the they have to see a margin of growth
<v Speaker 1>on top of the profits that are. Already making and
<v Speaker 1>it's like that is such a short sighted way to
<v Speaker 1>run a company and a business and now. An industry
<v Speaker 1>and we're, you know we won't really pay the price
<v Speaker 1>because there's going to be people wanting to make games.
<v Speaker 1>For us indie games are getting bigger. Every day we're
<v Speaker 1>not going to really notice all.
<v Speaker 3>That much or here here's. An idea you have a
<v Speaker 3>SHOW on i want To say peacock that's had two
<v Speaker 3>very successful seasons Under a. Sony property Where's The twisted? Battle? Game,
<v Speaker 3>yep right like that that's a perfect like medium. Size
<v Speaker 3>remake if you could do it that you can have
<v Speaker 3>an online. Multiplayer part you could have a single player
<v Speaker 3>part and you just build it off of what you're
<v Speaker 3>building in, The show like what are we what are we?
<v Speaker 3>DOING here i don't UNDERSTAND what I just i don't.
<v Speaker 3>Get this and If, you're nixus If, you're valkyrie If,
<v Speaker 3>you're haven you've got to, be, like, oh no one
<v Speaker 3>of the coming for. US next i just. Like this
<v Speaker 3>this list in this article has, what, one, two, three,
<v Speaker 3>four five. Nine studios five of them either say layoffs.
<v Speaker 3>Or closed two of them say new. Game soon that, seems, Bad.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah and, it's like you know it's gonna be different for.
<v Speaker 1>Each one It like nix's is based In. THE netherlands
<v Speaker 1>i think It's a, dutch studio and it's like that'll
<v Speaker 1>probably be in the middle of the road in terms,
<v Speaker 1>of costs like, you could like people have been pointing
<v Speaker 1>out like a lot of support studios now are popping
<v Speaker 1>Up in spain because the cost of employing someone there
<v Speaker 1>is like a fifth or a fourth of what it
<v Speaker 1>would cost to employ employee support Studio like Bluepoint. In
<v Speaker 1>Texas like bluepoint also did Support, On ragnarok and, it's
<v Speaker 1>like just looking at, the numbers you very, quickly, say,
<v Speaker 1>oh boy that that we could save a lot of,
<v Speaker 1>money here and and for.
<v Speaker 2>These companies the dollar saved is a.
<v Speaker 1>Dollar earned like that money does show up in the,
<v Speaker 1>Bottom line it shows up in bonuses for these executive,
<v Speaker 1>decision makers but it is always seemingly incredibly.
<v Speaker 3>Short, sighted, YEAH.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah i like, You're, right like what could they have
<v Speaker 1>pitched in this like last year to like get the?
<v Speaker 1>Green light and, IT'S like I think sony only would
<v Speaker 1>have said yes to some sort of like big lotto
<v Speaker 1>number of games as service game, as well even AFTER
<v Speaker 1>whatever i would Happen with God. Of war it sounds
<v Speaker 1>like that's the only thing that could have gotten Through.
<v Speaker 1>To sony and, it's, like okay so they were doomed from,
<v Speaker 1>the beginning cause it sounds like first much of the
<v Speaker 1>studio said they want to work on their, own thing
<v Speaker 1>but that's not what.
<v Speaker 2>They wanted and even if, it, was well here. We are.
<v Speaker 3>It's curious so they feel about that now unfortunately. With
<v Speaker 3>hindsight but.
<v Speaker 2>It sucks just.
<v Speaker 3>Another name that we'll never see in front of a,
<v Speaker 3>game again added to, the.
<v Speaker 1>List yep and in, the meantime we all just want
<v Speaker 1>to play really good games and.
<v Speaker 2>And, AND sony i think is they are.
<v Speaker 1>More profitable they, are successful but at a, certain point like
<v Speaker 1>when do we start chalking that up to the fact
<v Speaker 1>that they don't have any competition in the exact space that,
<v Speaker 1>they're in like they no. One's good like they're getting
<v Speaker 1>the money from people, going, LIKE well i want To,
<v Speaker 1>play Fortnite and i'm hearing from Everyone that xbox might
<v Speaker 1>not be around for, very long so let me just
<v Speaker 1>get the PlayStation and i'll make all my micro micro
<v Speaker 1>transaction purchases.
<v Speaker 2>Over there like Half.
<v Speaker 1>Of sony's revenue now comes from third PARTY like psn micro,
<v Speaker 1>transaction sales and then the other half is from selling
<v Speaker 1>full game releases and that includes their own, so, like
<v Speaker 1>okay that growth, is there but that's not like.
<v Speaker 2>Legitimate growth that is sort of you just kind.
<v Speaker 1>Of defaulting onto the, other team like handing you, Their
<v Speaker 1>money like when are you going to start figuring out
<v Speaker 1>what's next for you and? Actually growing, and right, so
<v Speaker 1>far all of their answers have been cutting jobs and
<v Speaker 1>closing studios and, cutting costs and it's like that's only
<v Speaker 1>going to get you, so far and that's not going
<v Speaker 1>to set you up for. The, future again we're talking
<v Speaker 1>about me in myopic that that is. Very myopic the
<v Speaker 1>innovation is gonna start coming from elsewhere and you're gonna get,
<v Speaker 1>left behind And, IT'S yeah i don't think a lot
<v Speaker 1>of the rest of, the INDUSTRY like pc gaming outside
<v Speaker 1>of the hardware nightmare doesn't feel like it's having a
<v Speaker 1>lot of these same pressures as. Console gaming So and
<v Speaker 1>sony's COMPANY that i kind of has to solve That
<v Speaker 1>because nintendo's on its own little island, over there although
<v Speaker 1>we'll talk about it having its own problems before we're
<v Speaker 1>done with the stories. Here today, all right let's. Continue
<v Speaker 1>on let's let's catch up on. Some Reviews. Demon tides
<v Speaker 1>this is. From fubraz it is a sequel to A
<v Speaker 1>three d PLATFORMER that i. Really liked this is the
<v Speaker 1>team that Is making BUBBS. Four d so your favorite,
<v Speaker 1>game ever my favorite. Game ever let me double check. And, see,
<v Speaker 1>Hey listen BUBZY four d actually might be.
<v Speaker 2>Legit good let. Me See demon tides has an eighty
<v Speaker 2>Four On Open critic.
<v Speaker 1>Right Now george Foster From the, gamer says EVEN when
<v Speaker 1>i struggled to find a, GOLDEN gear i didn't really
<v Speaker 1>mind that MUCH since i knew it just meant spending
<v Speaker 1>extrue Time In demon tide's moorish. Open world the platforming
<v Speaker 1>is best, in class the characters and world left more
<v Speaker 1>of a MARK than, i Expected and fabraz somehow managed
<v Speaker 1>to make going open worlds seem both effortless. And obvious
<v Speaker 1>if the second game in the series is, This good
<v Speaker 1>i'm already counting down the days until.
<v Speaker 2>The third. That's nice but about every developer hates.
<v Speaker 1>Here and that where it's like they just spend years making,
<v Speaker 1>a game and, it's like where's the? Next one, but yeah,
<v Speaker 1>let's see yeah The. Game Slayers monica phillips gave it
<v Speaker 1>a six out. Of Ten demon tides is, an ambitious
<v Speaker 1>often jinky platform that does its best to show inspiration
<v Speaker 1>from some of the greatest games in the genre and
<v Speaker 1>ends up feeling a little bit bland because. Of it
<v Speaker 1>and then LET'S see I, HAVE oh i like this
<v Speaker 1>one JUST because i like the name of.
<v Speaker 2>THE studio i think this Is.
<v Speaker 1>ALSO dutch a game Leaner For claudia Tija or tiha
<v Speaker 1>gave it a three and a half. Star Review demon
<v Speaker 1>tides is, a solid but sometimes frustrating platformer with fun
<v Speaker 1>collectibles and strong ghost races through it environments al though
<v Speaker 1>it's movement level design and humor don't. Always, LAND yeah
<v Speaker 1>i did like that first one quite, a Bit so
<v Speaker 1>i'll be checking, this OUT AND i i like the idea,
<v Speaker 1>of it like going, open world that that's the kind
<v Speaker 1>of game that had a really good, movement SYSTEM and
<v Speaker 1>i would like to just explore that even. More so
<v Speaker 1>i'll be interested to see how much it Feels Like
<v Speaker 1>bowser's fury, or whatever which is like, the okay, Only
<v Speaker 1>other like it's there's got to be other like open
<v Speaker 1>WORLD three, d platformers but that's THE one i think
<v Speaker 1>of and kind of can't think of. Any others kind
<v Speaker 1>of Surprised that indie space is already taking that idea
<v Speaker 1>on with something, Like this so looking forward to trying.
<v Speaker 2>It out how? About?
<v Speaker 3>You, YEAH same I Miss. Demon turf that's the FIRST
<v Speaker 3>one i think is the name.
<v Speaker 2>That's right demon to the first One Is. DEMON tod i.
<v Speaker 3>Did miss the, first one but this is what we
<v Speaker 3>kind of we were talking about in the, previous segment
<v Speaker 3>where an indie studio is trying to iterate on a
<v Speaker 3>known formula to eighty four out of one hundred on,
<v Speaker 3>open credit that's pretty. Good success that's the kind of
<v Speaker 3>that's basically the kind of thing we're going to be looking,
<v Speaker 3>at now these, smaller studios, indie studios taking things that
<v Speaker 3>we are familiar with and trying to put their own spin.
<v Speaker 3>ON them i like the idea of being able to
<v Speaker 3>just explore this world and find, the gears AND and
<v Speaker 3>i like a little humor in my in my, games
<v Speaker 3>too just high on. LIFE too i was high on high.
<v Speaker 3>On life so if it might not be that kind,
<v Speaker 3>of humor but any humor at all is USUALLY something i.
<v Speaker 3>Attached to and a hat and time being invoked here
<v Speaker 3>in The smash pad review that, you posted that's a
<v Speaker 3>good allegory. TO HAVE i i like the hat, in time,
<v Speaker 3>SO yeah i might give this one a shot based
<v Speaker 3>On what i'm, reading here and ALSO because i just
<v Speaker 3>want to support indie studios trying.
<v Speaker 1>Something new, absolutely. Yep same, all right let's you, Know
<v Speaker 1>what let's take. A break we got plenty more headlines to.
<v Speaker 1>Get to we'll find out what's going On With, pokemon
<v Speaker 1>day which finally officially. Got announced we'll talk about that
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<v Speaker 1>Mess Mornings, Jeff Grubb. Jason finelli let's do this next,
<v Speaker 1>story here Which Is pokemon presents Announced For pokemon day twenty.
<v Speaker 1>Twenty six this Is From. NINTENDO everything A New pokemon
<v Speaker 1>presents has just been Announced For. Pokemon day it will
<v Speaker 1>be Taking place february, twenty seventh twenty. Twenty six the
<v Speaker 1>presentation will begin Six am pacific time Nine.
<v Speaker 2>Am Eastern.
<v Speaker 1>Sorry Jan The pokemon company did not say what will
<v Speaker 1>be included In The pokemon, presents event though we already
<v Speaker 1>Know That Pokemon fire Red And Pokemon leaf green will
<v Speaker 1>be releasing digitally on The e shop shortly after. The
<v Speaker 1>presentation we'll talk about that more here in. A second
<v Speaker 1>i did kind of try to gather up what people
<v Speaker 1>are saying about what you can Expect maybe The Upcoming
<v Speaker 1>pokemon presents showcases expected cover a wide range of, franchise
<v Speaker 1>updates including mobile Games Like Pokemon, Masters Ex, pokemon Go
<v Speaker 1>And pokemon sleep as well as the anime and trading.
<v Speaker 1>Card game it will also feature More On pokemon pacopi
<v Speaker 1>ahead Of its march. Fifth release since since this is the,
<v Speaker 1>thirtieth anniversary the stream will likely dedicate a segment to upcoming,
<v Speaker 1>celebratory events such as the confirmed day out and night.
<v Speaker 1>Out events day out being, for families night out for being.
<v Speaker 1>FOR adults i think to. Get, crunk furthermore leaks suggest
<v Speaker 1>a strong possibility of seeing the next generation, of RPGs
<v Speaker 1>Reportedly Titled pokemon Wind, and wave which are rumored to
<v Speaker 1>Be THE, generation x, You know generation. Ten games the
<v Speaker 1>article concludes by noting that coverage of all announcements will
<v Speaker 1>be Available.
<v Speaker 2>On kataku THAT'S where i got. It, from everybody, all
<v Speaker 2>right so let's, See, here jason what can?
<v Speaker 3>We expect so they have a lot, going on more
<v Speaker 3>so than you would think or really realize if you're
<v Speaker 3>only focused on the. Video games It, Mentions procopeia it
<v Speaker 3>mentions the POSSIBLE gen X, Oh MAN Gen. X pokemon
<v Speaker 3>that's that's that's just weird, To say but like the
<v Speaker 3>bunch of Mobile Games, Pokemon Go. Pokemon sleep it also
<v Speaker 3>DOESN'T Mention, tcg pocket which just had AN expansion i
<v Speaker 3>think announced yesterday or the. Day BEFORE plus i, Have
<v Speaker 3>it i'm pretty good authority that they're going to have
<v Speaker 3>a huge Selection Of pokemon day merch for the thirtieth
<v Speaker 3>anniversary coming out on the. SAME day i saw some
<v Speaker 3>things At toy Fair. Last SUNDAY some i can talk
<v Speaker 3>ABOUT and i will in, a SECOND some, i can't
<v Speaker 3>which are. Pretty neat the one thing that struck me,
<v Speaker 3>THE most I think i posted this Picture On. Blue
<v Speaker 3>sky it's a, play, mat card sleeves and a deck
<v Speaker 3>box set Of the it's an artist rendition of the
<v Speaker 3>first screen you see when you Turn on pokemon red
<v Speaker 3>for the or blue for the, first time that stand
<v Speaker 3>off between gangar in the back or in the foreground
<v Speaker 3>with his back turned and knit a reino facing. The
<v Speaker 3>camera and it's in the old green grain game. Boy
<v Speaker 3>colors very very. Cool stuff as SOON as i, saw
<v Speaker 3>THAT apparently i had the largest reaction to anyone that
<v Speaker 3>has seen it. So far they, were like you're the
<v Speaker 3>only one that. Gets it, i'm like you call, me
<v Speaker 3>old what? Is that, but no, There was but there's
<v Speaker 3>this other cool stuff there that they. SHOWED off i
<v Speaker 3>think the lego sets will be coming out around that time. As,
<v Speaker 3>well Uh but i'm most interested based on what's listed
<v Speaker 3>here to see what these day out and night out.
<v Speaker 3>Things are i'm curious What the pokemon. Company Things The
<v Speaker 3>night Out with pokemon. Looks, Like yeah i'm genuinely curious
<v Speaker 3>what that's going what that's going to. Look Like day
<v Speaker 3>out With the family sounds a little MORE like i
<v Speaker 3>can figure out what's going, on there and THAT'S something
<v Speaker 3>i might want to uh get involved in if it's
<v Speaker 3>if it's uh something around this area or even Up In.
<v Speaker 3>New york but the, night, out man what happens when
<v Speaker 3>what Happens when pokemon?
<v Speaker 2>Get loose? What? Happens, YEAH right I don't i.
<v Speaker 1>DON'T know i bet there's some fan fiction about that on,
<v Speaker 1>the INTERNET.
<v Speaker 3>But i know One s ONE thing i worry about about,
<v Speaker 3>this though is that these days out and nights out
<v Speaker 3>will be confined To Like. POKEMON go, i, mean yeah.
<v Speaker 2>That seems very very.
<v Speaker 3>Nice game i'm kind of hoping that they have like
<v Speaker 3>pop up events in cities around the country or around,
<v Speaker 3>the world and then it'll just Be. In pokemon mister mime?
<v Speaker 3>After dark what is wrong? With YOU.
<v Speaker 1>But i loved SOMEONE who i saw someone say that
<v Speaker 1>a recession indicator is that there were like life sized
<v Speaker 1>guardivores available for Merch on pokemon's website and they haven't sold.
<v Speaker 1>Out yet, that's, like, yeah, Yeah maybe, OH no i.
<v Speaker 3>Would you like The names Wind and, wave though if
<v Speaker 3>you ever were to get the cartridge for one of
<v Speaker 3>them and snap it, in half you would Then. Break
<v Speaker 3>wind that's. A problem, but yeah so Gen, x pokemon
<v Speaker 3>they're all like real like, plaid, shirts.
<v Speaker 2>Right they just. Don't, care, yeah right.
<v Speaker 1>Very, lethargic yeah, IT'S well i will be interested in,
<v Speaker 1>WATCHING this i. Think obviously, RIGHT now a lot of
<v Speaker 1>the conversation is around this, next.
<v Speaker 2>Story which is part of that.
<v Speaker 1>Last story Pokemon fire Red And leaf green are Coming
<v Speaker 1>To switch february twenty seventh for a, gross Price Rights
<v Speaker 1>john Walker, at kotaku the rumors, were true who as
<v Speaker 1>Anticipated by POKEMON, Leaker wu Pokemon fire Red And, leaf
<v Speaker 1>green The Game boy advance remix of The original English language,
<v Speaker 1>pokemon games are Coming to Switch and Switch to february.
<v Speaker 1>Twenty seventh they'll be available as downloads as soon as
<v Speaker 1>the Thirtieth Anniversary pokemon direct comes to. An end, so,
<v Speaker 1>yes indeed this confirms what was absolutely certain that there
<v Speaker 1>would Be A pokemon direct blah.
<v Speaker 3>Blah blah the.
<v Speaker 1>Arrival of these two twenty year old versions of a
<v Speaker 1>thirty year old game as a paid download and not
<v Speaker 1>as new entries IN the gba Section of nintendo's online
<v Speaker 1>subscription package is a bizarre and pretty. SHOCKING choice, i
<v Speaker 1>disagree it's, not shocking but, then, yeah yeah some might
<v Speaker 1>say a, mercenary, one yeah. There. Are there surely was
<v Speaker 1>the potential that they could have been available for free
<v Speaker 1>to celebrate the franchise's, thirtieth birthday given how ancient they
<v Speaker 1>are and how appropriate it.
<v Speaker 2>Would be that's obviously. Not Happening.
<v Speaker 1>IT'S nintendo, i think, you know it's a little bit
<v Speaker 1>more complicated Than. It's nintendo It's The, pokemon Company And
<v Speaker 1>pokemon company very protective of make Money from pokemon and
<v Speaker 1>and today owns a third Of A, pokemon company, for
<v Speaker 1>sure but you know they also like the idea Of
<v Speaker 1>protecting pokemon's ability to.
<v Speaker 3>Make money that.
<v Speaker 1>Doesn't make any of it look great that this is just,
<v Speaker 1>those ROMs the same as any of the ROMs that
<v Speaker 1>would be On The Game BOY advance. Nso platform but
<v Speaker 1>now you have to pay twenty dollars for each.
<v Speaker 2>Of them it's that's a bit of an, aggressive.
<v Speaker 3>Price, right, NO yeah i am of A different i
<v Speaker 3>am of a different mind. Of this it could have, been,
<v Speaker 3>worse honestly he could have. Gone thirty but SO when
<v Speaker 3>i first saw this my first and first, OF all
<v Speaker 3>i thought IT was I thought i was DREAMING because
<v Speaker 3>i first saw it at six thirty in. THE morning
<v Speaker 3>i opened. My email it was the FIRST email i,
<v Speaker 3>Saw him, like, what? Well WHAT but i went on
<v Speaker 3>to social MEDIA and i went to the feed of
<v Speaker 3>The who i've been Calling The doc brown of, Video Games.
<v Speaker 3>Jordan midler he's A big. POKEMON guy i Call Him
<v Speaker 3>doc brown because he's A great SCOTT and i and
<v Speaker 3>he said that it being SEPARATE from nso makes sense
<v Speaker 3>because it Does Use pokemon Home And pokemon home allows
<v Speaker 3>you to Upload your pokemon from all different versions and
<v Speaker 3>import them to any versions that. Support them and from a,
<v Speaker 3>competitive standpoint giving players the ability to, use stave, save
<v Speaker 3>states and rewind features would fundamentally compromise competition because then
<v Speaker 3>you would allow them to interest Get the pokemon they
<v Speaker 3>need over without basically any chance. Of failure if they
<v Speaker 3>have the patience to go forward over and. Over again
<v Speaker 3>and if you know anything ABOUT, the vgc those players
<v Speaker 3>have a lot of. Goddamn patients SO while i understand
<v Speaker 3>at first glance you're looking at this as, sticker shock
<v Speaker 3>my THOUGHTS, are a it could have, been worse which
<v Speaker 3>is not a, good argument but it could have. Been
<v Speaker 3>WORSE and b the extra Inclusion Of pokemon home from a,
<v Speaker 3>competitive standpoint which is a focus. They have they have
<v Speaker 3>worlds every. Single year they have events around all year
<v Speaker 3>long in support Of That, pokemon worlds and this year
<v Speaker 3>they're putting a giant convention. Around it let's NOT forget i.
<v Speaker 3>Understand IT do i have to?
<v Speaker 2>Like?
<v Speaker 3>It NO am i still going to? Buy, It look
<v Speaker 3>i'm not made. Of stone i'm probably in for two,
<v Speaker 3>copies each one of each copy on my switch and
<v Speaker 3>one of either one one for one kid and one for,
<v Speaker 3>the other and they can. Play IT so I know
<v Speaker 3>i'm not going to sit here and say don't you,
<v Speaker 3>buy THAT because i would be a. Hypocrite, Honestly yeah
<v Speaker 3>but after, SOME thought i kind of.
<v Speaker 2>GET it i think.
<v Speaker 1>You ARE so i think what's, Happening, here jason is
<v Speaker 1>You are you've had this argument, with yourself and you're
<v Speaker 1>being honest in the way that many of the people
<v Speaker 1>who are right, now mad Who are, pokemon fans are
<v Speaker 1>gonna have, to well they won't have to be honest,
<v Speaker 1>with themselves but they will have to pony up cash
<v Speaker 1>to buy it when they eventually break down and buy, it, themselves, right.
<v Speaker 3>Sure, sure sure, YEAH yeah i mean they're gonna. Do
<v Speaker 3>it they're gonna, BE like i am so Angry that
<v Speaker 3>i'm pushing this Button On, pokemon day and they're gonna,
<v Speaker 3>do it and they're gonna, play it and they're gonna
<v Speaker 3>be ten years old or however they, all were however
<v Speaker 3>old they, were again and then that'll, be that and
<v Speaker 3>then we'll be on to the next thing that we're
<v Speaker 3>mad about In the POKEMON fan I just i just
<v Speaker 3>this could have been both of them lumped together for, sixty.
<v Speaker 3>Bucks guys it really. Could have and you couldn't just
<v Speaker 3>get one version of. The other you would have a
<v Speaker 3>launchy screen where you'd pick. Your version. It could nintendo
<v Speaker 3>And The pokemon company can be, Really weird so when
<v Speaker 3>they choose to be weird in, this way it's almost
<v Speaker 3>like we got, off easy you KNOW what, I MEAN
<v Speaker 3>like i feel like this could have. Been, WORSE again
<v Speaker 3>i keep saying that it's not a, great argument but
<v Speaker 3>THAT'S where. I am And the pokemon HOME thing i
<v Speaker 3>think is, Really COOL so i don't have a problem.
<v Speaker 1>With that, well, yeah well once you laid it out,
<v Speaker 1>like that it's like some of the like nothing everything
<v Speaker 1>short of the price. Makes sense and then it's like
<v Speaker 1>when when you say it could, be worse, IT'S like
<v Speaker 1>i think that's That's The pokemon company's reason, is like
<v Speaker 1>we could get away with a, lot here what's like
<v Speaker 1>a number that feels like we'll be able to get
<v Speaker 1>away with the most while still being able to capture the.
<v Speaker 2>Most people and that's how you come up.
<v Speaker 1>With prices, it's, like yeah if it was like, fifteen
<v Speaker 1>dollars five dollars more expensive than like Like the pokemon
<v Speaker 1>games that popped up on THE three ds near the
<v Speaker 1>end of THE three ds, is LIFE so i think
<v Speaker 1>people would, be like, all right plus it has, home support,
<v Speaker 1>and YEAH twenty i think it's just it is the,
<v Speaker 1>sticker shock and the sticker shock often, wears OFF and
<v Speaker 1>i think that's probably gonna wear, off, here know we
<v Speaker 1>know What The pokemon.
<v Speaker 2>Company is this is this is par for the course.
<v Speaker 3>For them and a lot of the, sticker, SHOCK too
<v Speaker 3>i think is coming from people who are familiar with
<v Speaker 3>the concept of ROMs and emulators and who think they
<v Speaker 3>can just go, you know sale high seas for lack
<v Speaker 3>of a, better term, and yeah, that's fine you go.
<v Speaker 3>Do that but there are families and there are people
<v Speaker 3>who are not. As connected i've had a lot of
<v Speaker 3>trouble with people in bubbles the last twenty. Four hours
<v Speaker 3>if you've been looking At My, blue sky people are
<v Speaker 3>getting this bubble and they surround themselves with people who
<v Speaker 3>agree with them when they think that that's how everyone
<v Speaker 3>in the, world thinks and it's just. Not true you
<v Speaker 3>have to look outside of your bubble and realize that
<v Speaker 3>they're not catering as much to YOU or i as
<v Speaker 3>they are to the people who have never played these.
<v Speaker 3>GAMES before i just mentioned my. Two daughters they're Gonna
<v Speaker 3>Play fire Red And leaf green for the. FIRST time
<v Speaker 3>i am happy to pay twenty dollars for that experience
<v Speaker 3>instead of the price of getting, a cartridge which right
<v Speaker 3>now on the secondary market is what. Triple That if
<v Speaker 3>i'm being generous and A game boy advance for each.
<v Speaker 3>OF them i. JUST don't. I don't i think people
<v Speaker 3>might be expecting me to get pissed off, about this
<v Speaker 3>But unfortunately i'm just, not tall.
<v Speaker 1>SHOW says i still hope they have. Home support home
<v Speaker 1>support was taken out of the game's description. This morning
<v Speaker 1>do you?
<v Speaker 2>Think that, ah shit that's my.
<v Speaker 3>Whole, ARGUMENT well.
<v Speaker 1>I mean maybe maybe they're saving the details of that
<v Speaker 1>for The Actual pokemon. Day presents but if it doesn't have, Home,
<v Speaker 1>support yeah that does that change things?
<v Speaker 3>For? You absolutely. It, sucks, yeah yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Fucking argument it's a rider if for people were asking
<v Speaker 1>again what home. Support is it's the thing so you
<v Speaker 1>Could capture pokemon in one of, these games send It To,
<v Speaker 1>pokemon home and then you can Use that pokemon in
<v Speaker 1>any of The other.
<v Speaker 3>Pokemon, games yeah that's a subscription. BASED service i don't
<v Speaker 3>know what the monthly fee is at the off the
<v Speaker 3>top of, my head, but YEAH so, i yeah it
<v Speaker 3>would be weird to even put that as as they say,
<v Speaker 3>on chat it'd be weird to put that on the
<v Speaker 3>screen at all if it's not going to be included
<v Speaker 3>in some form, or, Fashion, RIGHT god i hope.
<v Speaker 1>IT is i just made a, HUGE no I bet
<v Speaker 1>i bet it will be. IN there i bet it
<v Speaker 1>will be. All RIGHT let's, i mean it's the easy
<v Speaker 1>thing to do to like to justify, the. Price right
<v Speaker 1>that's how you capture a lot of, these sales if
<v Speaker 1>you give that people the people just one thing of
<v Speaker 1>it Includes home that's why we don't.
<v Speaker 2>Want rewinding that's why we DON'T. Want.
<v Speaker 1>Nsl Now the nintendo did put out a little thing
<v Speaker 1>about like why are you doing it? This way and
<v Speaker 1>they seemed, very, aware, like yeah what they, say here
<v Speaker 1>we thought it would.
<v Speaker 2>Be fun where?
<v Speaker 3>Is?
<v Speaker 1>It well these games are being offered as standalone software
<v Speaker 1>and are not planned for release as part Of The
<v Speaker 1>Game Boy Advanced nintendo. Classics collection This is nintendo, saying
<v Speaker 1>that in celebration of thirty Years, of pokemon we thought
<v Speaker 1>it would be fun to return to the ultimate versions
<v Speaker 1>of The Original pokemon adventures In the kanto regions with these.
<v Speaker 1>Special releases it's like them trying to, be, like look
<v Speaker 1>we don't have a, good reason but we just. Like
<v Speaker 1>it and if they could say and also home support at,
<v Speaker 1>some point then it like closes that argument a.
<v Speaker 2>Little bit we'll.
<v Speaker 1>Find out february. Twenty seventh We will i'll wake up
<v Speaker 1>and we'll do a talk over. Of it it'll be.
<v Speaker 1>Nine am it'll be easy.
<v Speaker 2>For me we'll see what chance, De sides i'll.
<v Speaker 1>Do it, oh, no, no, No okay i'm looking forward. To,
<v Speaker 1>it yeah, all right let's keep. Going here forty employees
<v Speaker 1>have been laid Off From. Ubisoft toronto it does. Not
<v Speaker 1>end this Is From ben Lyons At. Game reactor it's
<v Speaker 1>been a bleak a few days in the video game
<v Speaker 1>industry around, the world and things certainly aren't much bright Over.
<v Speaker 1>IN canada a new Report From mobile syrup has revealed
<v Speaker 1>That Developer ubisoft toronto has been hit, with layoffs with
<v Speaker 1>forty employees losing their job at. The studio ubisoft has
<v Speaker 1>issued a statement commenting on, the situation expressing that the
<v Speaker 1>decision was not taken lightly and does not in any
<v Speaker 1>way reflect, the talent dedication or contributions of the. Individuals,
<v Speaker 1>affected However what ubisoft did find the time to confirm
<v Speaker 1>was that this decision will not affect the ongoing development
<v Speaker 1>Of splinter.
<v Speaker 2>Cell remake what seems.
<v Speaker 1>To have been which which seems to have been in
<v Speaker 1>development for for an internity at. This point, yeah, weird
<v Speaker 1>right but also kind of in line with what we
<v Speaker 1>just talked About With, blue point where it's like they're
<v Speaker 1>still going to do, these remakes but maybe they want
<v Speaker 1>fewer People Getting north american salaries getting.
<v Speaker 2>Paid to do.
<v Speaker 1>THAT work, i think especially in any case where they're
<v Speaker 1>just swapping in new assets and keeping the game mostly.
<v Speaker 1>The same at, this point even that's not you can
<v Speaker 1>trust studios around the world to handle any sort of
<v Speaker 1>upgrades to the gameplay. As well this is going to
<v Speaker 1>be more and more common where you're just you're not
<v Speaker 1>going to Have like toronto like development developers probably cost
<v Speaker 1>pretty close to what it costs In. Like California even
<v Speaker 1>toronto is a very expensive city to. Live IN so
<v Speaker 1>i bet that's the big part of, it here and
<v Speaker 1>they're just looking for ways to do the same.
<v Speaker 2>Work well pay less. For it that's my. Read here
<v Speaker 2>what do?
<v Speaker 3>You think it's all about squeezing as much profit out
<v Speaker 3>of these projects as, As possible and at, this Point
<v Speaker 3>splinter cell remake has to be a, money, PIT right
<v Speaker 3>i mean how long has this game been known to
<v Speaker 3>be in development and that's not including, you know concept
<v Speaker 3>and all, that stuff if that game's even. COMING out
<v Speaker 3>i do love that this, announcement, was yeah we're laying off,
<v Speaker 3>forty employees but they're still. Making it split us over
<v Speaker 3>remake here it, is, hey like don't look don't look,
<v Speaker 3>over there don't look, at what don't look at the
<v Speaker 3>people who're pushing off. The cliffs look at the thing
<v Speaker 3>they were making and are not, making anymore which kind.
<v Speaker 3>OF sucks I don't i, Don't know and it would
<v Speaker 3>be very bad for these forty employees to have lost
<v Speaker 3>their jobs only for that game to come out and Be,
<v Speaker 3>bub kiss Which. It's ubisoft do we really have a
<v Speaker 3>lot of confidence in them at, the, moment either there's
<v Speaker 3>there's a there is a lot of layers to this,
<v Speaker 3>ship ship this particular, ship sandwich and the more you think,
<v Speaker 3>about it the more its, thinks yep.
<v Speaker 1>It, is okay it's very frustrating because it's it's just
<v Speaker 1>a thing where we've been asking for. These things they
<v Speaker 1>say they've been. Making them what is taking? So long
<v Speaker 1>let these studios cook and and then the, studios okay
<v Speaker 1>they get. To work and then a few years, into it, it,
<v Speaker 1>say well you're costing us. Too much we're gonna go
<v Speaker 1>do it in a. Different way and it's again it
<v Speaker 1>just feels. Very shortsighted, you know you're going to build
<v Speaker 1>up this talent elsewhere, and that and it sounds like
<v Speaker 1>they're mostly going to, outsource, It right they're not going
<v Speaker 1>to like take it to their, other studios like they're
<v Speaker 1>closing other studios around, The world so it's like they're
<v Speaker 1>just gonna, outsource it and that outsourced talent is going
<v Speaker 1>to continue to grow and outgrow Companies.
<v Speaker 2>Like ubisoft, so, yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Uh this, next story huh UH. Wildf, i okay let's
<v Speaker 1>try to like just track this.
<v Speaker 3>One.
<v Speaker 1>Down everybody knight In the Woods publisher finji accuses TikTok of, creating,
<v Speaker 1>racist sexist and UNEDITABLE generative ai ads for. Its games
<v Speaker 1>sophy mac that game, yeah right oh, My, god yeah
<v Speaker 1>it's every. Bad thing Uh, Uh yeah sophie did a
<v Speaker 1>good job of kind of wrap wrapping. This up That's
<v Speaker 1>why i'm using. Her version but go read the original STORY.
<v Speaker 1>On ign it, is uh it's a. Wild Ride valentine
<v Speaker 1>nil just great Reporter Of. Valentine ReBs fantastic Indie publisher
<v Speaker 1>finji has accused TikTok of modifying its game ads WITH
<v Speaker 1>generative ai without its knowledge. Or PERMISSION like i know that,
<v Speaker 1>sounds crazy it is that crazy and as ig and.
<v Speaker 1>Report sorts an Advert for finji's twenty twenty FIVE Game
<v Speaker 1>A usual june was modified to produce a. Sexualized racist
<v Speaker 1>this is a quote and sexist representation of the. Studio's work,
<v Speaker 1>the ad which was presented as Coming from, finji's account
<v Speaker 1>presented a sexualized version of the game's female protagonists that
<v Speaker 1>differs substantially from her appearance in. The game finji first
<v Speaker 1>learned ABOUT the ai generated content from comments on TikTok
<v Speaker 1>and its. Official discord In, early february, THE publisher ceo
<v Speaker 1>and Co Founder rebecca saltzman Clarified that fenji runs ads
<v Speaker 1>on TikTok but had not opted into THE platform's. Ai
<v Speaker 1>tools this includes, two features smart creative and that's a
<v Speaker 1>proper noun and automative creative another, proper noun both of
<v Speaker 1>which USED generative ai to GENERATE multiple ad versions and automatically.
<v Speaker 1>Optimize assets fenji said it is unable to view or
<v Speaker 1>EDIT the ai generated versions of its, own ads and
<v Speaker 1>has repeatedly tried to resolve the issue with TikTok. Support
<v Speaker 1>team you figure you get a hold of somebody, and
<v Speaker 1>say how do we? Fix this IT provided IgM with
<v Speaker 1>screenshots of the, support conversation which confirmed that the studio
<v Speaker 1>is NOT using ai content, but Was but TikTok was
<v Speaker 1>unable to explain how the ads had appeared or give
<v Speaker 1>or give a.
<v Speaker 2>Timeline for resolving.
<v Speaker 1>The, problem Subsequently on, february sixth a TikTok support agent
<v Speaker 1>said it did not see any INDICATION that ai generated
<v Speaker 1>assets or slideshow formats were used other than fucking looking at,
<v Speaker 1>THE ads i GUESS after finchi provided evidence disproving. This
<v Speaker 1>claim the support agent then acknowledged the unauthorized USE, of
<v Speaker 1>ai the sexualization and misrepresentation of, your characters and the
<v Speaker 1>resulting commercial and reputational harm to, your studio and that's,
<v Speaker 1>A quote. It continued we want to be clear that
<v Speaker 1>we are no longer disputing whether. This occurred we understand
<v Speaker 1>that you have provided documentation and that audience comments on
<v Speaker 1>the ads further corroborate. Your, claims however despite saying that
<v Speaker 1>the matter would, Be escalator, i'm sorry despite saying that
<v Speaker 1>the editor the matter would be s escalated immediately for
<v Speaker 1>further review at the highest, appropriate level and it would
<v Speaker 1>discuss next steps. Toward resolution the platform made no, further
<v Speaker 1>contact and a subsequent fallow Up with benji only prompted
<v Speaker 1>a separate answer saying the firm's ad campaign was, using
<v Speaker 1>quote a catalog ads format designed to demonstrate the performance
<v Speaker 1>benefits of combining carousel and video assets and. Sales campaigns.
<v Speaker 1>WORD salad i think just, to, say basically go back
<v Speaker 1>to the original statement of you. Opted in TikTok declined
<v Speaker 1>to provide comment on record To. Ig in regarding, The situation,
<v Speaker 1>SALTZMAN said i have To admit i'm a bit Shocked
<v Speaker 1>by TikTok's complete lack.
<v Speaker 2>Of appropriate response to the mess. They made this, Is
<v Speaker 2>nuts this.
<v Speaker 3>Is insane how first, of all like how what does, TikTok,
<v Speaker 3>think like where in what universe does it think he
<v Speaker 3>can edit the ads it receives without giving consent to.
<v Speaker 1>The company it's gonna be like one of the features that, they're, promising,
<v Speaker 1>like hey you just give us your base assets and
<v Speaker 1>then WE'LL use ai create a bunch of different versions the,
<v Speaker 1>ab TEST and i bet a lot of people, are, like,
<v Speaker 1>Yeah okay i'm trying to get my small business off.
<v Speaker 2>The ground.
<v Speaker 1>That's great finji a creative studio that knows exactly what
<v Speaker 1>they're trying to sell people on how to sell it.
<v Speaker 1>To them certainly obviously didn't, want it they didn't, opt
<v Speaker 1>in they were some chance stopped. Into it, they didn't
<v Speaker 1>and yet somehow got sucked into this, nightmare regardless and
<v Speaker 1>then it created get like it was a sexualized version
<v Speaker 1>of the character where she was like wearing a bikini
<v Speaker 1>bottom and stuff.
<v Speaker 2>Like that none of that is in. The, game no
<v Speaker 2>it's it's so like it's like it's like beyond black
<v Speaker 2>mirror stuff at.
<v Speaker 3>This, point, yeah now this this is a a whole
<v Speaker 3>new level of tampering or like we can do whatever
<v Speaker 3>the fuck we want and you can't say anything about
<v Speaker 3>it sort, of nonsense thinking they're untouchable. Or infallible is
<v Speaker 3>do you think this was Happening before Ellison and company
<v Speaker 3>signed in or do you think this is a. New
<v Speaker 3>development i'm genuinely.
<v Speaker 1>KILLED because i bet it was something that was, happening
<v Speaker 1>BEFORE or i bet it kind of like spiraling out,
<v Speaker 1>of control something that's Happened. Under Ellison So, Larry allison
<v Speaker 1>oracle and a bunch of, Other people Jared, FUCKING cushner
<v Speaker 1>i think Have acquired TikTok recently so that they can
<v Speaker 1>keep operating In The, united states that, Whole mess and
<v Speaker 1>since then it's been nothing but Stories, of oh it's,
<v Speaker 1>falling apart the servers are not. Being maintained it's it's
<v Speaker 1>just a bad deal. Over there this sounds like a
<v Speaker 1>fallout from.
<v Speaker 2>That.
<v Speaker 3>Firestorm yeah and and it's a non zero chance that
<v Speaker 3>the support agent they were talking To. Was, ai also,
<v Speaker 3>UH huh i mean of course you're you're you're Asking
<v Speaker 3>show dan to stop killing people testing what what? Are
<v Speaker 3>we what are we? Doing here what are we? Doing here?
<v Speaker 3>These People And fingy fingy any other, game, company right
<v Speaker 3>it could have been any other, game company and it
<v Speaker 3>would have still, been really really. Really Weird But fingy
<v Speaker 3>night In, The Woods, Fingy tunic Little. Fox boy this
<v Speaker 3>is like THE of i cannot wrap my head around.
<v Speaker 3>This story how did we? Get here where do we go?
<v Speaker 3>FROM here i have a lot of existential questions happening because.
<v Speaker 3>Of this, and like if you're if you're a, game
<v Speaker 3>company or if you're any company, at all you read,
<v Speaker 3>this story do you Advertise on?
<v Speaker 1>TikTok anymore i, mean No, like saltsman like basically just
<v Speaker 1>spells it. Out here what really is utterly baffling is
<v Speaker 1>what appears to be a profound a profound void where
<v Speaker 1>common sense and business sense. Usually Reside does TikTok want
<v Speaker 1>me to be grateful for the mistreatment of my company in?
<v Speaker 1>Our game based on the wild response through the weeks
<v Speaker 1>of customer service correspondence we, HAVE received i think this
<v Speaker 1>is their stance and and take on their obvious offensive
<v Speaker 1>and racist technology and process and how they secretly use
<v Speaker 1>it on the assets of their paying clients without consent.
<v Speaker 1>Or knowledge saltsman, went on this is just, simply embarrassing
<v Speaker 1>but not for me as. An individual, FOR me i
<v Speaker 1>am just super. Pissed off this is, my work my,
<v Speaker 1>team's work and mine and my, company's Reputation which i've
<v Speaker 1>spent over a. Decade building my expectation was a, proper
<v Speaker 1>apology systemic changes in how they used this technology for,
<v Speaker 1>paying clients and a hard look at why their technology
<v Speaker 1>is so obviously racist. AND sexist i am obviously not
<v Speaker 1>holding my breath for any of the. Above anymore, yeah
<v Speaker 1>right it's just. Common sense it's. Business sense the paying
<v Speaker 1>customers going saying you have wildly overstepped your bounds here
<v Speaker 1>and there IS like i, get it the customer service
<v Speaker 1>that's the, problem though the fact that you're reaching a
<v Speaker 1>customer service agent that MIGHT, be ai and if you're not,
<v Speaker 1>reaching them they're PROBABLY using ai to formulate. Their answers
<v Speaker 1>the fact that you cannot reach a human being that
<v Speaker 1>understands why this is a problem and then can do something.
<v Speaker 1>About it and then when you do reach that point
<v Speaker 1>where they acknowledge they did, something wrong correspondence.
<v Speaker 2>Cuts off.
<v Speaker 1>It is that is, the situation like you would never
<v Speaker 1>want to do a business with someone like that ever
<v Speaker 1>again and contact us it seemed.
<v Speaker 3>To care so they must think again that, they're untouchable that.
<v Speaker 3>THEY'RE infallible i think that there's a pervasive thought around
<v Speaker 3>the billionaires and the elites right now that they can
<v Speaker 3>do whatever they want because they get enabled by the shithead.
<v Speaker 3>In CHARGE if I think finji has an open and, SHUTCASE.
<v Speaker 2>Here i mean it seems, like it don't, You think,
<v Speaker 2>oh yeah They should they should. Absolutely, sue, Yes.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah and if they try and, fight it it can
<v Speaker 3>go all the way up to. The TOP and i
<v Speaker 3>think even the top would, be like.
<v Speaker 2>What the fuck? Is this what are?
<v Speaker 1>You guys, doing, Here right like a business should be
<v Speaker 1>able to control how their business is, Message, RIGHT yeah
<v Speaker 1>i likely you shouldn't like pay someone for a service
<v Speaker 1>and then, they're like we got it.
<v Speaker 2>From here you.
<v Speaker 1>Sit back we're going to make some racist and offensive
<v Speaker 1>ship and it's going to be really good for.
<v Speaker 2>Your game The, FUCK no i.
<v Speaker 3>MEAN that i mean that's what an. Advertising does can
<v Speaker 3>you tell us, Your thing we'll make an ad campaign,
<v Speaker 3>about it like you approve it with the company that
<v Speaker 3>maybe it has to.
<v Speaker 2>Be, approvedroved yeah.
<v Speaker 3>It's fun that's. Absolutely wild, All, Right well.
<v Speaker 1>I'm We're gonna i'm gonna stick with this story and
<v Speaker 1>we'll See if rabba has any, follow Ups if TikTok
<v Speaker 1>has any public response in. Future shows square Nick Says
<v Speaker 1>near automata to be continued after shifting ten. Million Copies
<v Speaker 1>square nix sent in a new video which celebrates the
<v Speaker 1>fact that the Thoroughly Enjoyable near automata has shifted over
<v Speaker 1>ten million units is set quote to.
<v Speaker 2>Be continued whether this means we will get.
<v Speaker 1>Brand new near console game, excuse me it remains to,
<v Speaker 1>be seen as they could just be alluding to more
<v Speaker 1>crossovers with To, be YEAH both i think they're gonna
<v Speaker 1>do more.
<v Speaker 2>Near games what do?
<v Speaker 3>YOU think i think they're gonna do more, near games
<v Speaker 3>and not, for nothing but this is a game that
<v Speaker 3>TikTok could have fucked with the ads with and nobody would.
<v Speaker 3>Have noticed but, uh no that it's ten million units
<v Speaker 3>is not anything to shake a. Stick AT and i
<v Speaker 3>think it's definitely a game. THAT kid i don't know
<v Speaker 3>if it could be followed. UP on i understand that
<v Speaker 3>the endings of that game and the way that they
<v Speaker 3>all kind of tie into one big, overarching narrative you
<v Speaker 3>may have to do a brand new game in the, near, World.
<v Speaker 1>Right that's that's kind Of what, near, Was Right like
<v Speaker 1>near one and two were kind of follow ups to
<v Speaker 1>chat help. Me out it was a long it's near.
<v Speaker 3>Dracking guards it's a side story of dracking guard tracking what.
<v Speaker 1>It, is, Exact right so that's like you kind of
<v Speaker 1>continue that idea, of, like oh now here's another thing
<v Speaker 1>that happens a thousand years later or something.
<v Speaker 3>Like, that, yeah, sure sure and just say it's part
<v Speaker 3>of that. Over universe, but yeah there's definitely uh. Potential
<v Speaker 3>here now you have to wonder is it is it
<v Speaker 3>just the surface level gooner stuff or do people because
<v Speaker 3>everyone i've i've ever, heard it told it with it till.
<v Speaker 3>The end it says it's one of the best games,
<v Speaker 3>ever made one of the best stories, ever told absolutely.
<v Speaker 3>Loves IT so i THINK there's i think you can
<v Speaker 3>appeal to. Both here you can appeal to the people
<v Speaker 3>for a deep story and you can appeal for. The
<v Speaker 3>goons and it's a. It's a. It's a they might
<v Speaker 3>have a lightning in a. Bottle here they should probably
<v Speaker 3>keep on.
<v Speaker 2>With.
<v Speaker 1>It uh and then, Last story no one Is Buying
<v Speaker 1>Mario tennis Fever, in japan Okay so famitsu first week
<v Speaker 1>sales came Out From Mario. Tennis fever it's thirty eight
<v Speaker 1>thousand copies sold And span now that's, just physical so
<v Speaker 1>we should keep that. In mind but that is significantly
<v Speaker 1>less than Any Other mario Tennis Since mario Tennis For.
<v Speaker 1>Virtual boy's as, A Comparison Mario, tennis aces which had
<v Speaker 1>a similar install base at, the time that one sold
<v Speaker 1>one hundred and twenty two thousand.
<v Speaker 2>Copies in its.
<v Speaker 1>First week, you know THE the n sixty four games
<v Speaker 1>sold two hundred thousand copies in its. First Week power
<v Speaker 1>Tennis For Game boy color sold one hundred and forty
<v Speaker 1>thousand copies in its, First week so we're talking less
<v Speaker 1>than forty, thousand copies not one hundred and forty thousand Copies.
<v Speaker 1>For fever and it's just like it's going to be
<v Speaker 1>like people already have aces on a backward. Compatible machine
<v Speaker 1>that game did, very well ended up selling a couple,
<v Speaker 1>MILLION copies.
<v Speaker 2>I think and then this.
<v Speaker 1>Game is seventy dollars and. It does you just look
<v Speaker 1>at it and it's just not all. That different like
<v Speaker 1>if this was a, different sport if This was, mario
<v Speaker 1>baseball we're probably not having, this. Conversation right people would
<v Speaker 1>be excited for that and they would have showed up
<v Speaker 1>to pay seventy dollars.
<v Speaker 2>For, it yeah.
<v Speaker 3>ME too i would have been there with, bells on
<v Speaker 3>especially now with baseball season starting.
<v Speaker 1>Up Soon put mario characters in there and, show Hey
<v Speaker 1>otan otani and you you got yourself a HUGE an.
<v Speaker 3>Mlb crossover.
<v Speaker 2>Just show like it's it's a to Just show. Mario,
<v Speaker 2>characters yes like that would that would that game.
<v Speaker 3>Would crush As A philadelphia, PHILLIES fan i would no
<v Speaker 3>longer play. That ship but, but no you are, absolutely
<v Speaker 3>Right just nintendo characters and show ay and Like A
<v Speaker 3>ken griffy's, junior Style, Show hey otani's winning run there.
<v Speaker 2>It, is, yeah yeah it's just making It.
<v Speaker 3>Exactly yeahani oh, MY god i love. This idea but
<v Speaker 3>and someone asked chat what about the GameCube version in
<v Speaker 3>its first week one hundred and thirty nine, thousand copies
<v Speaker 3>second most on. THIS list i. THINK so i also,
<v Speaker 3>THINK too i wonder if people had a bad taste
<v Speaker 3>in their Mouth because aces was. NOT great, i mean.
<v Speaker 1>RIGHT right i think it's very similar problems for between
<v Speaker 1>these two GAME where i think the tennis is GREAT,
<v Speaker 1>in ASS like i think the TENNIS in ass is
<v Speaker 1>the best it's.
<v Speaker 2>Ever been it's like a.
<v Speaker 1>Lighting game it, feels great and then there's just not
<v Speaker 1>enough content there to justify that price at, the time
<v Speaker 1>which was. Sixty dollars and then like they did the
<v Speaker 1>thing there where they did with All The mario sports
<v Speaker 1>games at the time where it was very limited content
<v Speaker 1>and then they dropped it for free in Patches Like,
<v Speaker 1>going forward and that did not do it. Many favors and,
<v Speaker 1>so yeah people might be feeling burned, by that and,
<v Speaker 1>They're like i'll wait and SEE and i think if
<v Speaker 1>you were waiting to, see here, it's, like oh people
<v Speaker 1>seem to be enjoying, the game but not so much
<v Speaker 1>more so than any of The Other mario.
<v Speaker 2>Tennis games it's that. Game, again, Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>YES and i think their next sports game needs to
<v Speaker 3>be a different, sport baseball which they've, done before even
<v Speaker 3>something they've never, done before or maybe something they did
<v Speaker 3>In that sports mix kind of expand that into its.
<v Speaker 2>OWN game, I.
<v Speaker 1>Mean i think they could do, golf AGAIN because i
<v Speaker 1>think if, you go if you bring golf back and
<v Speaker 1>you make, it clear it's like we're going back to
<v Speaker 1>like ace synchronous online turns and stuff, like that and
<v Speaker 1>making it less of a party game like what A
<v Speaker 1>speed Star speed rush whatever it. Was called that was
<v Speaker 1>like a party game, That, was hey get a bunch
<v Speaker 1>of people together in the room during the pandemic, YOUR family,
<v Speaker 1>i guess and play. That game and, so, yeah sure
<v Speaker 1>but what about the Online tournament so we don't. Have
<v Speaker 1>that that's THE three ds game and it's way better,
<v Speaker 1>On there so go. To hell but, you're right another
<v Speaker 1>sport is kind of necessary at, this point and really
<v Speaker 1>just a rethinking of how they sort.
<v Speaker 2>Of bolster the content.
<v Speaker 1>It is whatever they're doing here to like make it
<v Speaker 1>feel like this game is worth, seventy dollars that does.
<v Speaker 2>Not work it. DOES not i don't think they've connounced
<v Speaker 2>anyone it's. WORTH seventy.
<v Speaker 3>I agree i Think if I'm if I'm If, I'M
<v Speaker 3>nintendo i, think baseball even if you go WITH the
<v Speaker 3>mlb root or even Just, show hey is the. Best
<v Speaker 3>option you get all those Characters, from mario even if
<v Speaker 3>you want to call Out The Nintendo baseball league and
<v Speaker 3>bring in all kind of like a Like A smash
<v Speaker 3>brothers for baseball and you let people like And Again
<v Speaker 3>i'm I'm getting i'm getting going off on a, tangent here,
<v Speaker 3>but like Imagine A nintendo baseball game where everybody has
<v Speaker 3>their little, stats everything the kind of like Get, the
<v Speaker 3>show but not quite. As involved and then you could
<v Speaker 3>get like eight people together in the league and you
<v Speaker 3>could you could have, like tournaments you could have like
<v Speaker 3>round robins and all. THAT stuff i think that would.
<v Speaker 3>Be awesome that's how you build On A mario. Baseball
<v Speaker 3>game but that takes time, and MONEY and i Don't
<v Speaker 3>think nintendo wants to invest any.
<v Speaker 1>Of that, so, yeah man that there's one hundred and
<v Speaker 1>thirty five dollars or ectually one hundred thirty Five euro
<v Speaker 1>mario and friends would.
<v Speaker 2>Block set someone just shared in chat that's expensive.
<v Speaker 3>One hundred and fifty dollars here in the GOOD. Old
<v Speaker 3>usa it's part Of my mario line of like younger
<v Speaker 3>kids stuff a couple.
<v Speaker 2>Days, awesome, actually yeah kind of. Kids, expensive yeah.
<v Speaker 3>That's that's that's a better be made a bit like
<v Speaker 3>cherry wood or something Exactly.
<v Speaker 2>From george Washington's. Cherry, trees yeah was in. The mush.
<v Speaker 3>That does it for.
<v Speaker 2>The headlines let's get to the poll question.
<v Speaker 1>From yesterday let me get the results, Over here gonna
<v Speaker 1>refresh get the most. Recent results, all right what do
<v Speaker 1>you Think About Zeno Blake chronicle x's five dollars switch to?
<v Speaker 2>EDITION upgrade i think it should.
<v Speaker 3>BE free i.
<v Speaker 1>Get it not, For me I'M so i, You know
<v Speaker 1>i'm gonna say not, For me and so did eighteen percent.
<v Speaker 1>Of respondents thirty eight percent said they, get it and
<v Speaker 1>forty four percent THEY said i think it should. Be
<v Speaker 1>free i'm surprised because it's like it's the easiest thing
<v Speaker 1>in the world to go to a poll and, BE
<v Speaker 1>like i think it should, be free and yet thirty
<v Speaker 1>eight percent.
<v Speaker 2>Were, LIKE no i. GET it.
<v Speaker 1>I think that's a Lot Of xeno blade fans held
<v Speaker 1>a little bit hostage thinking there was a chance this,
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't happen and very grateful that it, is happening and, being.
<v Speaker 2>Like LOOK if i got to pay, Five bucks i'll pay.
<v Speaker 2>Five bucks what do?
<v Speaker 3>You think, also TOO and i guess the argument could
<v Speaker 3>be made that visual upgrades for a game as massive as,
<v Speaker 3>that one we're talking eighty to one hundred hours could
<v Speaker 3>more more than maybe and. Being FREE but I think
<v Speaker 3>i'm on the free. Side too it doesn't really add
<v Speaker 3>much more if it was like visual upgrades and then
<v Speaker 3>maybe like another, gameplay thing maybe you pay for the
<v Speaker 3>five bucks, for that but just for just for just,
<v Speaker 3>VISUAL upgrades i think free was the. Right one and,
<v Speaker 3>also too It's just nintendo checking off every box they
<v Speaker 3>can so they don't have to Make The smash brothers
<v Speaker 3>switch to edition that we. All want just you're running
<v Speaker 3>out of, games here just give it. To.
<v Speaker 1>Us yep what's This About? Blue Dragon blue dragon's getting a. Recomplisation,
<v Speaker 1>compilation well if, that's happening we'll talk about it. Next week,
<v Speaker 1>all right we got to Do the bomb twelve to
<v Speaker 1>wrap up. The week we'll do that here in a.
<v Speaker 1>Little bit before we get, to that let's check In With. Jason,
<v Speaker 1>finale finelle what do you have? Going on where can
<v Speaker 1>people find you on? The internet all that?
<v Speaker 3>Good, stuff, Yes sir jasonfinelli dot Com On, blue Sky
<v Speaker 3>Big man Fineale. On instagram had a very COOL thing
<v Speaker 3>i was able to. Do yesterday Magic's Gathering Ninja turtles.
<v Speaker 3>March sixth they're coming out with a co op thing
<v Speaker 3>two to four Players Called Turtle. Team up you open up.
<v Speaker 3>The box there's, four decks one for, each turtle and
<v Speaker 3>you play against the little machine that's. In here there's
<v Speaker 3>like a boss cards that have effects an event cards
<v Speaker 3>for every turn they do two things. To you great
<v Speaker 3>way To teach magic two. New players i'm going to
<v Speaker 3>try and do this with my kids and my wife
<v Speaker 3>to see if they get the hang. Of it fun,
<v Speaker 3>to HEAR so i WANT to i want to. DO
<v Speaker 3>that i played it With some. Enfranchise players they thought
<v Speaker 3>it was kind. Of fun also comes with, four packs
<v Speaker 3>so you can take cards out of the packs and
<v Speaker 3>put them into here like these awesome alternate art rooftop
<v Speaker 3>lens where they're jumping over the Rooftops right that. Artist
<v Speaker 3>fantastic earlier in, the week they revealed a bunch. Of
<v Speaker 3>cards the Pre Conc commander deck is all about. Video
<v Speaker 3>games Has Like electric seaweed from the. Original game it
<v Speaker 3>has Cards Like, High Score. Arcade cabinet there's some really
<v Speaker 3>cool pixel art variants where they're drawn by a pixel
<v Speaker 3>Artist From. SOUTH america i don't remember exactly where. He's
<v Speaker 3>from that, just gorgeous. Gorgeous stuff so that was. Really,
<v Speaker 3>cool also Did toy fair, Last WEEK like, i mentioned
<v Speaker 3>THAT'S where i.
<v Speaker 2>Got that that was.
<v Speaker 3>PRETTY neat. I am. I did i WAS also i
<v Speaker 3>did to get a chance to write. About IT but
<v Speaker 3>i got to play the demo Early of People of
<v Speaker 3>note and that's gonna. Be cool turn based a little.
<v Speaker 3>Musical bent that is something really really cool that you
<v Speaker 3>should be. Looking into also have another review Game that
<v Speaker 3>i'm playing. Right now it doesn't have a home for a.
<v Speaker 3>REVIEW yet i can't talk, about it but, oh boy
<v Speaker 3>it's gonna. BE fun i don't know if i'll discuss
<v Speaker 3>after it, With you but just doing doing the writing
<v Speaker 3>and doing doing the stuff and trying to get through
<v Speaker 3>every day with a smile on. My face there it.
<v Speaker 1>Is excellent, All right well let's. See, here uh let's
<v Speaker 1>talk about what's Happening on. Giant bomb as, a reminder
<v Speaker 1>that first Episode Of Mary me tomadacci. Is alive now
<v Speaker 1>you can get you that on. The website that one is.
<v Speaker 1>On YouTube future episodes will be. Premium only go to
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<v Speaker 1>member get in. On that put up a new episode
<v Speaker 1>Of grub snack's premium as well. This, week uh we're
<v Speaker 1>gonna BE doing. UPF today i don't think we figured
<v Speaker 1>out what. We're doing we might just hang out and play.
<v Speaker 2>SOME stuff i. Don't Know it's we're gonna make a.
<v Speaker 2>Smaller shill i'm in the mood to just hang out with.
<v Speaker 2>My friends.
<v Speaker 1>Let's chee if you have a friends, slop game you
<v Speaker 1>want to suggest something new, and weird even if it's
<v Speaker 1>bad that that could be a.
<v Speaker 2>Good time let. Us know i'm in the mood for
<v Speaker 2>some friends.
<v Speaker 1>Slop, darks, yes exactly we should Do, dark souls but
<v Speaker 1>by way Of a, tokyo scramble and we each control
<v Speaker 1>a different aspect of the character and. It's there you
<v Speaker 1>go one character for people. Controlling it everyone's demanding. The
<v Speaker 1>lords we Could Do Super. Battle, Golf okay i'll look.
<v Speaker 1>Into that Has A Steam next, Fest, STARTED yes i.
<v Speaker 1>WAS wondering i know it's starting by. NEXT week i
<v Speaker 1>wasn't sure if it had started at. THIS point i
<v Speaker 1>know there's like a couple Of games i'm going to
<v Speaker 1>check out from there once it. Goes LIVE and i
<v Speaker 1>heard the, twenty THIRD but i wonder if that's just for. Certain,
<v Speaker 1>games oh you Could do.
<v Speaker 3>Overwatch again that. WAS fun i want to play.
<v Speaker 1>It again overwatch. Is great i'm sure if you, Say
<v Speaker 1>that mike will jump all. Over THAT and i had
<v Speaker 1>a really good time.
<v Speaker 2>As well but. We do we did just, play that so.
<v Speaker 2>We'll see we'll see what. We're, THINKING oh i.
<v Speaker 1>Would love to Check out Steam, horse FEST but i
<v Speaker 1>we're friends With h. Bomber, GUY now i just don't
<v Speaker 1>want to. Upset them, AND listen i don't KNOW where
<v Speaker 1>i fall on the fence regarding the reality, of HORSES
<v Speaker 1>but i just don't want to upset.
<v Speaker 2>My friend, all right let's, see here let's do the.
<v Speaker 1>Bomb, twelve everybody it's time to wrap up the week
<v Speaker 1>with the twelve games that really matter to people who
<v Speaker 1>really care about. Video games let me get my figma
<v Speaker 1>up over HERE so i have all the. Right results here.
<v Speaker 1>We go Number Twelve hell divers two back in the.
<v Speaker 1>Top twelve number Eleven Is Clear obscure expedition. Thirty three
<v Speaker 1>Number Ten dragon quest, seven reimagined hanging on to. Its
<v Speaker 1>spot number Nine is Ghost. Of yota Number eight High on,
<v Speaker 1>life two which people seem to be growing more. POSITIVE
<v Speaker 1>on i think it's one of. Those games, it's like
<v Speaker 1>if the, humor hits you're gonna have a. Good time
<v Speaker 1>number Seven is karen after being number one. LAST week
<v Speaker 1>I believe karen still hanging on. As well number Six
<v Speaker 1>Is silent Hill f Number five romeo is A, dead
<v Speaker 1>man very good for. THAT game i think more people
<v Speaker 1>will be checking that one out. As well number Four.
<v Speaker 1>Is deadlock dropping out of the. Top three then that
<v Speaker 1>means number Three it's Triumphant, return Overwatch no, overwatch Two
<v Speaker 1>just overwatch.
<v Speaker 2>You everyone is playing that. Game now number Two still.
<v Speaker 1>NEO three i wasn't able to get in the number
<v Speaker 1>one spot because that went to instead Of, course mugenics
<v Speaker 1>which seems like everyone jumped on that one, Meow indeed
<v Speaker 1>so Congratulations, To mugenics congratulations to all the games In the.
<v Speaker 1>Bomb twelve you should tell me what game you're playing this,
<v Speaker 1>next week we'll put up a, new poll a New
<v Speaker 1>like google form that you could submit your game to
<v Speaker 1>so you can have your say On the. Bomb twelve
<v Speaker 1>you can find that by going to giant bomb. Dot
<v Speaker 1>com scroll down a little bit you'll See the, bomb
<v Speaker 1>twelve the TWELVE games i just.
<v Speaker 2>Talked about then right to the left is a little
<v Speaker 2>button you can.
<v Speaker 1>Click on it'll take you to the form submit, your
<v Speaker 1>game let, me know and we'll have A new bomb
<v Speaker 1>twelve to wrap up next week.
<v Speaker 2>As Well, ALL right i think that. Does, it jason
<v Speaker 2>thank you so much for hanging out with me today
<v Speaker 2>and talk about. Video, GAMES man i. Reallyppreciate it you.
<v Speaker 3>Are WELCOME glad i had a chance to. Do it
<v Speaker 3>thank you as always always.
<v Speaker 1>An honor thank you all for watching. And listening you're
<v Speaker 1>the best audience. In gaming until, NEXT time i have a.
<v Speaker 1>Good one take care of yourself.
<v Speaker 2>And goodbye