NFC Free Agency Grades

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Speaker 1: It's a tough sports not for everybody.

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Speaker 2: You gotta be a little sick to love this game, and we got some sickos. Welcome to NFL Daily, where we're going to see if Ali Connolly is a tough grader. Today we are going through each NFC TV like we did earlier in the week and grading their off season thus far. Ali, how are you as a student in Manchester? Oh?

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Speaker 1: As a student? Was probably best not to go into the track record of studentness. I consider myself a very fag grade. I like to give people to benefit the doubt. I like to try and see the vision. I like to grade on how they view themselves more so than just me crushing them for what I would have done instead.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I mean it's it's wide open. You can give multiple grades if you really want. And look, you you have been a professional grader in the past scouting these NFL prospects, but this is more of a big picture look. And this has been a big, a big build up to this. Ali's done a lot of shows for NFL Daily. It's all leading to this. He sent me a document with four thousand words in it preparing for this show. So let's go deep on each one of these teams. We have the Cowboys and the NFC East. We're going to start with them. Each team, I will just introduce what they've done this offseason. Then we'll kick it around and then we'll give some grades. So probably the biggest move they made was they sent a fourth round pick for Rashwan Gary. News came out after the fact that he accepted a pretty big pay cut over the last two years of his contract, taking ten million dollars less money than he was due originally, so he is making thirty two million dollars over the next two years. For Rashaan Gary, they traded Osa Odigizua, their defensive tackle who was making even more money than that. They got a third round pick for that. They shipped off Solomon Thomas for a seventh round pick they tagged George Pickins that's still hanging out there. They gave Brandon Aubrey They're great kicker, a second round tender, which means he is due five point seven million dollars. Unless someone wants to try to sign them away for a second round pick, that's probably not gonna happen. Jalen Thompson was their biggest really their only big free agent signing. They gave the former Cardinals safety twenty two million dollars guaranteed on a three year, thirty three million dollar contract, So many of the free agency contracts looked exactly like that. This offseason. They brought back Sam Williams. They gave PJ. Lock, a safety with the Broncos, a small deal for five million. Sam Howells on this team, were you aware of that? And there's a lot of free agents that they had from their team last year that are still out there. Dante Fowler, you know, Jenevian Clowney, Kenneth Murray, Donovan Wilson, Logan Wilson. Not sure many of those guys are coming back, but just wanted to point that out. They have seventeen million dollars in cap space, which is not a ton and they have been in the top six of cash spending in back to back seasons, fourth right now for this year. So I think that informs maybe if you're expecting any more big moves, probably not gonna happen. What is the first thing that stands out to you from the Cowboys offseason.

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Speaker 1: It's what stands out to me is they're still feeling the pain of the Micah Parsons deal. I know it upset Stallas fans to hear that right off the top, but having to let go of Odigizu at that price point I thought was like almost criminal in terms of team building. That skill set, speed off the ball in the interior is so hard to find. Go and look at the guys who lead in the top five in quick pressure rate playing on the interior throughout the NFL. Getting those guys as always the best players in the league with the first round pick, it's just such a difficult thing to find. They had one of those guys and not quite at that price, and because of Kenny Clark, because of the other transactions, because of Quinn Williams, they have to let that guy go for a third round pick. So I really liked overhaul on the secondary. I like Christian Parker coming in at DC. Think it's a smart, innovative, forward thinking move, the likes of which they've not done for a while there. So I think that's all been positive. I think betting on kind of named players like Rashan Gary is a bit of a disappointment that they're still sticking with guys who it feels like they were high on two years ago and they set their for agent board, their off season plumbing board from two seasons ago.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, my grade is not going to be that high because Rashon Gary is just a clearly declining player that was a really good player, and he's had some injuries, and you could make the argument it's a pretty straight line the last three or four years that it was at one point, and it's gotten a little worse each year. He's still relatively young. And then you're betty on Kenny Clark, maybe because you feel like you gave up so much and he's a good leader and everything. But if you're choosing between Kenny Clark and o'diggie Zua, I think it's a it's a clear choice. You'd rather have o'digie Zuo. Clark's not going to get you anything in a trade, But they didn't get great value for him. If you think about what McDuffie and Jalen Waddle got, I would not put o'diggie Zua. Maybe quite there in terms of trade value, but I don't think it was great value for them. It felt like they needed to move a guy who's a good young player at a fair price, and it's just rare and it it speaks to the Cowboys are just doing things differently. It just feels like they're always reacting to the last move that they that they made.

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Speaker 1: It felt like everything was around this idea, we can't stop the r anymore, so we're gonna do everything we can and invest everything into stopping Our safeties are excellent running forces. Were still trying to find some linebackers out in the streets. We're gonna go and get Rashan Gary, who we know is a declining gas as a pass ruship, but he can still hold the edge as a run defender. And then you step back to me and go, what do you go and do on third down? Where's the pass us juice? I get quinnin if as a Rocky comes back fully healthy, that's beneficial. But one of the best impacts they had on defense was that to mantandem inside driving everyone up the field, and they just stripped to the pop because they didn't want They wanted to say face and keep Kenny Clock in the building effectively.

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Speaker 2: I saw a fascinating clip from Bob sterm who's covered the Cowboys forever. I thought was so telling that he thinks they do poorly in free agency or sit it out in general, just because the way they do business, it's a family operation and they never like to lose the gootiations. They never like to lose leverage. We've seen it with every negotiation that they've ever had with their free agents there. They're always low ball, low ball, lowball, just trying to get a good deal. That's what they get off on was trying to get a good deal. And it's like those don't exist in free agency. You have to kind of enter it with the idea that you're not gonna get some great bargain and that it's gonna go really fast. And Nikobe Dean, for instance, was one where I think that the Raiders just ended up moving faster and Jalen Thompson ends up being the only real free agent like that one. Are you looking forward to the Sam Howell Joe Milton preseason game? What about it?

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Speaker 1: No? No, No, I'm not I will be out those evenings. I feel like I don't know how yes, I accept all that about the family business. And the speech in Lanman, which I'm not sure was a speech, felt like mal of a documentary following Jerry around. But how do you square that with trading Odgezoo for the third round pick. Where's where's the family value in trading a really good ass for a right price?

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Speaker 2: Right? And uh, I don't know. It's about yes science, sign the guys quickly. Let's give them a grade. I'll have you start.

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Speaker 1: I'll give them a C because I do like the make over of the secondary and I do think they nailed the DC high.

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Speaker 2: We got to put a number on it. I will go seventy six as well. Okay, this is out of one hundred. Yes, yes, that's a C.

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Speaker 1: You know. Okay, that's a sea.

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Speaker 2: Anybody see is seventy three to seventy seven at least?

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 2: In Wilbraham, Massachusetts, we're keeping track of this. Eric was like, this show is going to go faster, not at this base. Let's go with the Giants. They signed Calvin Austen, a move we haven't mentioned. Haven't heard the contract terms, which usually means it's not much money. But the former Steelers receiver, they have a Darnell Mooney contract that is up to ten million. So I'm curious to see the actual numbers on those. I suspect they're both quite low. They also re signed Isaiah Hodgkins Hodgens and Gunner Olshewski and said goodbye to Wandel Robinson. That was just the moves at receiver. That was a lot. They re signed Jermaine Iluminor for twenty five million dollars garanteed three years thirty nine million. They brought back Evan Neil, their former top ten pick, which was surprising. They lost four players to the Titans, and Brian Dable, Daniel Bellinger, Cordell Flatt, Austin Schlottman, Wandel Robinson. They cut Bobby Okaike and then they did make some good signings. Isaiah likely got forty million dollars over three years at tight end our. Darius Washington is a member of the Giants, now the former Ravens safety. They signed Jason Sanders is their new kicker. I like that after watching Graham Gano play hurt way too often. And then they signed Tremaine Edmunds twenty three million dollars guaranteed way more money than I expected for him, three for thirty six, and Greg Newsom, who he saw in person overseas, got only three million dollars guaranteed. After a pretty rough year, probably a one for eight deal. That's a lot there kind of what stands out as kind of the big picture thinking from the Giants.

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Speaker 1: I like the high upside swing on Isaiah Likely. I think that's one of the best for agent deals of the offseason. I do like I'm not a Gregg n you some fan, but at that price for a twenty five year old where corners have these seasons where they just go in fluego for one year, I think that's pretty good value and you may hit out the park or you may move on at the trade deadline. So I like that. And then retaining your Maine illuminoil probably the most stable right tackle available on the market. He's being the building he knows Jackson Dodds, so I think that fits well. The bad to me is just I think the linebacking core is still a real problem. It's a linebacker based defense. I don't think Tremaine Edmonds. I think that was just a pure who is the best guy we think is available on the market. We're gonna have to overpaid to get the guy in. I don't think he's a clean scheme fit. I just don't see him the way they clearly value him. So I'm worried about the like cosmetic surgery they've done defensively when it's a pretty radical overhaul in terms of defensive style.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was one of my least favorite contracts in free agency because he basically got the same or close to the same money as Nikobe Dean and Devin Lloyd and just seem like, why I didn't I didn't get it off a year the Bears are cutting him. I'm with you, though, I really like the likely deal. I thought alumin Or for whatever reason, you know, didn't make everything maybe that I projected in free agency, but still was the best option out there. And then they get them back. And then in the end it sounded like they were pretty in on Wandale and got out spent. But getting Calvin Austin and Darnell Mooney for what I'm guessing combined is gonna be half as much as Wandale makes this year and nothing after this year. That's fine. I think they wanted to go a little bigger in free agency, frankly with John Harbaugh, and it didn't work out that way. But how it worked out, for the most part, I think is solid.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think not committing too much future money as you figure out what you have in Jackson Dall, what the foundation looks like, and you have this kind of full cultural reset I think is the smartest path, and just kind of going on the spending sploits in the fushage. John Hobboss got so much rope to build this thing up multiple seasons in this for Agent cluster, there was no need to go and kind of pull all the house on it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, twenty five million dollars in cap space, which is about average right now, so they still have some flexibility. There's too much cap space. Everyone's got cap space essentially right now now. I maybe expected a little more fireworks, but I'm going to give them a bee in eighty five, just a flat B.

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Speaker 1: I'll give them a c pluses that seventy eight. Does that sound right? I think that a little bit too much of trying to get the BAM back together with the Baltimore stuff, and maybe not that the highest level of Baltimore plays in this phase of that career is the Audarius. Washington has to been like, oh he knows us system all listen. I'm not sure how impactful of play is the stage of his crib, but the Isaia likely one is the key one to me.

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Speaker 2: For some reason, a lot of their contracts haven't been entered officially, so I wanted to see it. Like, I'm guessing our Darius Washington's making very little money, but we don't know because the Giants contracts, for the most part, aren't in there yet. Let's go to the Eagles, who made a move since I even wrote my notes down. But it's a good thing. I'm not too old yet. I'm taking that creatine in the morning. It's all still in there. Hollywood Brown is a member of the Philadelphia Eagles. How about that. They've They've had to definitely go a little cheap in free agency because they've spent a ton of cash. They do have a lot of cap space right now, but they've lost a lot of players. They've lost Jalen Phillips, They've lost then Kobe Dean, They've lost Reed, Blank and Chip. They also lost Azizo's Julari and josh Ucha, who I only point out to remind people that not every Howie like swing works. Those were lottery tickets that made sense to me. I thought like one of them would have worked out, and they didn't really work out. So not everything they do is perfect. None of those are that surprising. I think they wanted to keep Jalen Phillips and that was the one that got away from them. Who did they sign Arnold Ebaketty, a pass rusher from the Falcons for one year, seven million dollars. Jonathan Jones, the former Patriot and commander, and I'm mixing up my Joneses lands in Philadelphia. No, I got the right one. Riquill and got only twelve million dollars on a one year deal. So a lot of one year deals. Johnny munt is a member of the Philadelphia Eagles. I'm excited about that. They kept Dallas Goddter on what was basically like one hundred percent pay cut. That must have been a tough negotiation. But he's staying on a one year, seven million dollar contract. And then Jordan Davis got huge money three for seventy eight overall, really just thirty nine million dollars guaranteed wasn't quite as much as it was originally reported. And the AJ Brown thing is just hanging out over this team in the ether. I'll start there. Just do you think AJ Brown will get traded? Still?

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Speaker 1: Yes? You do?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, once they've gone down the road this far. I tend to think so too. I think they would have signed Hollywood Brown either way. I'm doubting he's much money and they need they need depth. That's the thing. If if you trade Hollywood I mean, if you trade AJ Brown, Ollie, like they don't have a two, they don't have a three. Now it's Hollywood Brown. It's like they're one of the thinner wide receiver groups in the in the league, even before they potentially trade out AJ Brown.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and a team that relies on one on one witness because the Colt Backs are going to play on time and and ridth them and even Hollywood Browns when they brought that's not a one on one winner. And what stands out to me is the even on the cheap rent of that deals. I was looking for some degree and I know this is silly to try and do with these guys, but we're sure manuon coming in some degree of offensive innovation, Like here's a sign that we're moving in a slightly different direction. And Johnny Munt is kind of the only one. It's like we're gonna have a true TI ten on the roster. So you can maybe lead into that some more on our offense, but beyond that, not a whole lot. It's it's kind of the similar profile of players, and you mentioned it. Their depth has been pretty stripped out, and they've been such a deep team for so long. Even the backup linemen who have struggled before have at least been in that system being with Stoutland understand it. Or they are just losing players now year after year and losing a lot of their depth. So I think that has to factor into the ag Brown conversation that not only would you lose kind of the lynchmen of the offense, but with what's behind it now kind of across the board has been stripped away.

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Speaker 2: Riquel In for on a one year prove it deal with Vic Vangio, I love that, and even Ebakeetti for considering how expensive pass rush is for one year seven million, Like if you're going to get these guys to just accept these one year deals, I think they were picking kind of the right guys coming right off their rookie contracts, trying to make more money. Those deals made sense. It's just been quiet. I mean, you're saying you're looking for offensive there are no offensive moves like there just hasn't. They haven't really done anything. I don't know if you like the Ebichhetti move or Reak in particular.

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Speaker 1: I really like the Ebihetti one. That was cheap and I thought would come in at as just a solid, stable pass rusher who you know will make more money next year having been touched by the Eagles and the fanjo of it all, he'll just kind of get fifteen sixty million dollars in the next cycle. So I love jumping on that early, kind of knowing exactly who he is as a player. The Woolen one, I'm willing to kind of see it out and see if Fanjo can tap into something. He's just not my kind of player. He goes to sleep far too often in games. I think he's just a constant accident waiting to happen. So he's just and they gonna try and play in high leverage playoff games just not a kind of play for me.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be fun, though, that secondary just for my entertainment. I love adding him to that mix, even if it's chaotic. And yeah, they have a lot of cap space, so I tend to agree. I think the aj Brown move is going to a little bit of an incomplete. But right now it's hard to give them too high of a grade considering how quiet they've been. I'll give them a seventy nine.

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Speaker 1: I'll co sign that. It's just it's such an incomplete without knowing the full ramifications of Brown.

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Speaker 2: I love making Ali and Jordan Rodrigue, by the way, do grades and rankings, because you know they're usually above such riff raff like that, and I'm making them do it. Washington made a lot of moves. A Dafeoway got one of the most surprisingly huge contracts in free agencies. Sixty eight million dollars. That's real deal, guaranteed. I went and checked four years, one hundred million like that. That was a legit sixty eight million dollars guaranteed. Calebon Chasen will play opposite him. He got a one year, eleven million dollar deal. They signed Tim Settle, the former Texans defensive tackle, for three years twenty four million, eight million dollars guaranteed. Really just a one year deal, but still more than I noticed. And then they re signed Dietrich Wise, they signed Charles Amenahu. And that's just the defensive line. All those it was just on the defensive line. Let's keep going though two of my favorite signings in free agency, Nick Cross and Leo Chanell for two years fourteen million dollars for Nick Cross, three years twenty four million dollars for Leoshanell at linebacker, twelve million guaranteed for Chanelle. Good value. They gave Chicko Konkuo about nine million dollars a year at tight end like that value. Rashad White two years. Actually we haven't seen the contract terms for that, so we're waiting on Rashad White. A Meek Robertson got surprisingly good money, kind of a rotational cornerback. They also extended Laramie Tunsol fifty two million dollars guaranteed. Re signed like three of their offensive linemen that you probably haven't heard of, although I thought Chris Paul might get more money elsewhere. They extended Nick allegready, so they cut Tyler Biadis like they've just they have had about as much movement as possible. I want to start with the defense because that's kind of where most of the moves have had happened. What do you think about the vision for a Derante Jones slash Dan Quinn defense? In these players adding to it. I love it.

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Speaker 1: I love it if Durante Jones is allowed to kind of implement his style and dan Quinn doesn't come kind of like sneaking into the room in week six, week seven, so trying to pivot it back to Quinn's style. They were just so old and slow and rudimentary in what they were doing last season when he got back into the room and kind to tweak things to the old dan Quinn's style to add as much juice as they have, add as much versatility and dynamism that they can basically with Nick Cross and Leo Chanel like they can line up in any way you want. They've got straight gas off the ball now up front. I don't think they got themselves a whole bunch of one on one winners. I think even someone like a Dafe, oh wait, it's all spring off the ball, and if he wins, he wins, and if he doesn't win off the first step, it's effectively over beyond an effort rep But they brought in a coach who wants to do all kinds of the mug and attack and creativity with the front, and they signed players to that vision, which gets me fired up because I really did think that they would bring Jones in, they would start signing guys who looked a little bit more like the Dan Quinn vision. And then in week nine, week ten, we get the reports that Quinn's heavily involved, he's taking back defensive play calling ju and the players they signed, the versatility they offer, scream speed. It's gonna look a little bit more like those Baltimore defens is a little bit more like the Brian Flores type defense.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, first of all, I mean you got to hope that Deronte Jones has the goods and then they can deliver a Brian Floress type defense. But if they do, it's almost like you're looking for a different type of player and you can find better value. I just think of all the good free agent signings that Floras and the Vike Flores helped the Vikings get. When you think about Van Ginkel and Cashman and Josh Mattelis who they developed, and just guys they had a kind of a vision for how they were going to do that didn't cost them that much money to bring on and then become real deal players. And I think that's how some of these signings could end up looking in a few years. I also like the Oconquo move. I think Ali Gretti's gonna be their center for Tyler Biattish was he the one who started a couple games late and they extend Tunsel. I like their Shad White move. I'm kind of in on the Commander's offseason, like it's not one hundred for one hundred, but I think I'm gonna give him an A ninety three. Why not we got to give someone an ah.

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Speaker 1: I went B plus because there's a little bit of overpaying for the lack of their internal development, having so many misfires. Now you got to go pay for it in frazy and I just really hated the loss of Badish. That made zero sense to me. They're changing the whole foundation of their offense to trying to be this undecenter move based team. So they say he is the one of the number one picks you would have if you were building out a move based under center kind of kick and go center type offense, and they just kind of jettisoned him from the building for Nick alagready a guy I like, but fit more of the Cliff Kingsbury style than he fits this one, So that one was just so puzzling to me from what they've messaged they want the offense to look like and that they were just throwing cash all over the place, that that was the guy they decided to be the casualty.

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Speaker 2: I agree, and I just assumed there were some injury stuff I didn't know about, because he did have injuries late in the year, but then he got quickly signed. They do have the most cap space in the league. So we taped on Monday the AFC and I said the Titans did. Since then, you know, this is a movie target. Some of the Titans have gotten entered. The Commanders now have the most cap space in the entire league and a ton of guys who are still free agents, all those old guys from last year like Von Miller and Deebo Samuel and Bobby Wagner for instance. They also had all these low cost deals from Mariota, Treylan Burks, Diami Brown. They've just been active. I think they needed to be. And so I'm going to lower my score to on ninety one. You tucked me down off of it a little bit. That's the nfcas Let's take a quick break and we'll come back. It's going to turn into one of my favorite annual exercises. The grades after free agency. Back on NFL Daily, we are rolling through the NFC free agency grades with the Chicago Bears and the NFC North up Neck. Really the highlights. The big news is how their secondary looks so different. They signed Kobe Bryant, the Seahawks safety, for three years, forty million dollars. Fun deal, so imagine him with Dennis Allen. But they let Kevin Bayer, Jawon Brisker, Nayshn Wright, Chauncey Gardner, Johnson, and Jonathan Owens all leave from the secondary, which which I found interesting. I don't think they were really in on keeping those players. They re signed Braxton Jones at left tackle, and they signed Jedrick Wills. This is a movie we had mentioned on the show, the former of Brown's first round pick that was out of football last year trying to get healthy. So that's a flyer where they need a left tackle early this season or maybe the whole season. They traded for Garrett Bradbury after Drew Dollman surprisingly retired at center, and other than that, it's been quiet. Devin Bush was the biggest other signing at linebacker three years, thirty million dollars seat who replaces Tremaine Edmonds, Neville Gallimore and Khaliff Raymond Gallimore as a defensive tackle Kalif Raymond kind of a fourth receiver return guy. They both get around five million dollars. They had a ton of players signed with other teams. For what it's whereth thirteen different players from their team have signed with other teams, which I found interesting. One of the highest, maybe the highest number in the in the league. And they're out of cap space and they're in the middle of the pack of cash spent. So I know we've been feeling better about Ryan Poles, but I do think that kind of points to maybe some of the misdeeds of previous years hurt them in this off season.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've thought Ryan Poles is a clown for a while. I do have to say I hadn't considered that about the cash and the cap. That kind of points to the fact that maybe he was clownish throughout the early parts of the ten uere. I love this. I thought he did a great job. I understand there were some cap restrictions, but it wasn't too high on their own supply of last season, kind of lying to themselves about who they could be going to the next year. I just thought it was smart move, smart move, smart move all across the board. I thought the Garrett Bradbury deal, when Drew Dolman reties on you so suddenly and you don't want to make it so you've got to go into the draft and there's only really Jake slaw Toho's worthy of maybe a first or second round pick, and you're kind of booked it. Well, you kind of have to get that guy earlier. Just going at Garrett Bradbury as a serviceable player who played much better last season than he has for much of his career. Just locking that down on a really cheap deal, doing it immediately, I thought was really sensible work. Getting a second round pick for DJ Moore's absolute robbery, unbelievable deal once again from Ryan Paul's in the trademarket, and I really do like that. For as much as I love the names they had in the secondary and I like a lot of those players, that it was a pretty clear signal that what they did last year with Dennis Allen where he could apart from the structure he had with the Saints and said we are an all out attack. Let's get after it based blitzing defense. All the signings aligned with that's who we want to be now. That was not a kind of figure it out on the fly, break glass emergency our past rush. Thinks I think they tapped into something in where the game is at right now. Alan has kind of embraced it, and so the signing of someone like Kobe Bryant, the signing of Devin Bush indicate that that's the style they want to go to. But there's a little bit more versatility than they have with the previous group. Wherever they want to kind of back off and return to how Allen used to play. Those guys were played in that style too. You really need Kyler Gordon to stay healthy.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, the group now still looks good Jalen Johnson, Tyreek Stevenson, Kobe Bryant, Kyler Gordon, and then I forgot. They brought in Cam Lewis, who's a solid player from from the Bills, who will be an option at safety. You figure they'll add more there. You make me want to give them a higher grade. The thing is they had no pass rush last year and I know they have cap space restrictions, they still have no cap space, I mean no pass rush this year, and I get what you mean. On Bradbury that was just bad luck for Drew Donmends. So I can't punish them in the grades. So they did well considering, but you have questions I think at left tackle, in a little bit at center just because of injuries and retirement there.

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Speaker 1: So over all, I agree that the russ is nowhere near perfect and they paying for the previous polls misfires. But I think it would have been so much worse to take what ever cap room they did have and tried to get in the sweepstakes for just be to be plus shade pass Russia and just say well, that's why I'm putting all the cash. I think that would have been fooling themselves that they only issue was we didn't have enough sizzle in the past rush, and I just don't think that's true. I think the team still has like it has pretty poor roster construction of multiple spots, and so they kind of put the cash around and tried to just build a more stable team for multiple seasons. And now they've got those second round picks, which is right in the meat of the ed rushing market in the draft class, and they could maybe dangle one of those if they want to to try and get a veteran down the line. So I think the move by move they've they've played it really well.

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Speaker 2: And the DJ Moore trade, as you mentioned, is not to be overlooked when when making this grade. And you're right, we would have hammered them if they made the Bradley Chubb contract or even the Adafioway contract. I don't think made sense for this team, even if I'm not gonna kill it for the commanders didn't love it. I'll give them a eighty six. Not that is that in the B plus rowl I mean, do you not have the Do we not have the same scoring process in London? Maybe we don't.

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Speaker 1: All I had was the letter grade, so I would say I would say a B plus. I I could tolk myself into an A for getting out of DJ more alone and then getting out of DJ Mole for a really valuable asset.

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Speaker 2: Okay, it sounds like you want like an eighty nine as close to a minus as possible. So how we did it? So the listeners, you know, it's like eighty three to eighty seven would have been a bee. Eighty to eighty two would be minus eighty eight to I guess, I don't know if B plus is eighty seven or not. Eighty eight eighty nine is B plus something like that, and then you do that with each grade. Let's keep going the Lions. This one's a quick one, nice deal for Katee Bays the center from the Panthers. Not too much money filled the big need after that, other than trading David Montgomery, it's just about a bunch of cheapy moves. And I'll just list off some of these players. They all are making very little money. Teddy Bridgewater, Isaiah Pacheco, Larry Borham is an option at to be like a fourth tackle, third tackle, Roger McCreery, who's bounced around now at cornerback, Christian Izzian who's okay at a defensive back for the Bucks, like Tyler Konklin at safety. They traded for Juice Scrugs. I don't even know if he'll make the Lions. But those are the types of moves. They've been very quiet. They have thirty million dollars in cap space. They lost Cleef Framan the to the Bears. I actually think that might hurt them a little bit. It was a good role player. Dan Skipper retired. They don't have a left tackle, they have no edge after Aiden Hutchinson. It's really crazy. They're pretty thin right now at linebacker, cornerback, interior, offensive line. They have some interesting free agents from their own team that are still out there that I'm starting to think are gonna come back. But as we stand right now, what do you think of what the Lions are doing? I love the two editions of Cave Mays and Roger McCreary. I really like Roger mccrey. I don't know the league agrees with me.

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Speaker 1: I thought he had really good flashes in Tennessee, particularly as a blitzer, so I like buying low on him. A Maze one we talked about going into it. That is the ideal scheme fit for Maze. What the Lions are looking photos at, big, lumbering, powerful presence middle of the line of scrimage. They will hide him and protect him in pass pro, and I think he's gonna play his best ball the next couple of seasons. I am still just puzzled by the lack of juice they have all over the field for a team that's trying to compete the top end defensively, not bringing AQM back for the money he got from the books is really puzzling to me. I accept letting Azeloni some of the kind of the Alder guys go that once, to me after the breakout was just a little bit jarring given that they didn't really.

00:29:26
Speaker 2: Do it alcohed Muhammad AQM. Yeah, you're expecting the audience to get on just as no oh yeah AQM. Yeah.

00:29:36
Speaker 1: To not shop in that market at least so far when all those guys are flowing off the board is just pretty puzzling to me.

00:29:43
Speaker 2: And I'm waiting to see the money on Muhammad. I don't think it's going to be much. Actually, it's it's coming up in a bit. I did. I did look it up. Yeah, it's it's very little money. That that one was curious because they do have cap space, so I hinted at the free agents that are on the team that are still out there. They don't have a left tackle really, so isn't Taylor Decker just going to come back? I think there was some hurt feelings that he couldn't agree on negotiation in the end, I'm guessing they're offering more than any other team, or he'd probably have signed with another team by now. So I think they'll look different if Taylor Decker comes back for one more season as expected and it's with them. Also, Graham Glasgow hasn't been signed. DJ Reader hasn't been signed. Some of these guys could come back, and I think they kind of need it, because this is the thinnest Lions roster since the first year they've been there. It really is. It's great at the top, but it's the thinnest, like in terms of depth it.

00:30:35
Speaker 1: Is, and the depth is slow. So I would get worried if they just bring all the boys back because they understand the system. They like dun Kempbell. I think they've got to get so much more explosive and take some flyers on young guys who flamed out elsewhere and bind to your own culture and we can coach up on all that stuff, which I think is what they did with McCreary. I think that's the angle they have to look at. I think if we get a couple months down the line they just keep bringing everyone back, that would worry me.

00:30:59
Speaker 2: It's a fair point. There's definitely not offensive linemen or tackles that are just going to be sitting out there. But you can find some defensive backs, you can find some defensive backups, but you really need to find some edge talent somewhere and figure out a way to develop them. It's really been a problem. They've put a ton of resources into their defensive line with pretty mixed results other than taking a pick everyone could have made with with Aiden Hutchinson. All right, I will give them. I think they were working with limited space here, and I just have a bias when it comes to the Lions, So I'll give them an eighty one. Eighty one. That's too high, too low.

00:31:37
Speaker 1: Too high? What have they made any degree of needle moving move I look, but cave Mays, that's still exposed a left tackle and an edge Russia. I don't think having a solid pivot is going to change the full tunes of a team who believes they are a contender.

00:31:53
Speaker 2: All right, give me give me a number.

00:31:55
Speaker 1: I think it's a C.

00:31:56
Speaker 2: I think it's on the low end going towards C minus. Okay, that's a seventy three, and you've you've convinced me. I'm I like it when Bill Simmons gets easily convinced if his guest has a good argument, because I'll listen to that. Let's go seventy nine. I just am kind of considering that it's incomplete right now, but it's it's not great right now. For the lines, we've actually been nicer graders. We had more d's on our AFC. Let's see what we have for the Packers. The Packers, just when you think you know what they're gonna do, they trade for two players who or they get two players that are aging, Zire Franklin from the Colts, the linebacker they traded for, and Javon Hargrave. They signed to pretty good money. Otherwise it's been quiet. They re signed their own lineman, Sean Ryan for three years, thirty three million dollars, eleven million dollars guaranteed, kind of that mic contract that's been going around. Benjamin Saint Juice, who played pretty well for the Chargers last year, gets ten million dollars over two years. Kind of replaces Nate Hobbs. Some teams have like a ton of free agents just sitting out there. I've mentioned those. The Packers are not one of those teams, like all of their guys have landed elsewhere. Malik Willis, Emanuel Wilson, Romeo Dobbs, Rashid Walker, Elton Jenkins who they cut, an Igbari, Nate Hobbs, who I mentioned they tried to cut. They traded away, Kolbe Wood and Rashan Gary, So a lot of people out the door. They have twenty eight million dollars. Pretty average in terms of cap space. What do you think?

00:33:28
Speaker 1: I thought it was pretty putrid given the timeline that they're on, and I understand some of that rush now. I think, if I had to guess, is we were really young and explosive, but we're a little bit frenetic in Haywi, and so we're going to try and get more savvy vettes in the room. But I just look at it in the round once they complete everything, and it's just so uninspiring to stick with the offensive line and bett an internal development, to not try and bring someone into the mix, to try and shake things up and maybe displace one of the tackles all the gods. I thought was pretty concerning. I thought the Zaia Franklin deal was just kind of bizarre. I don't know how it was so weird the system at all. I don't know why getting that guy this phaseous griffits them in any way, having let a really explosive linebacker go for all the faults of quay Walka, I just don't know why, one to one you would not just pay that contract over bringing Zaire Franklin in. So just across the ball, I's found him very strange.

00:34:18
Speaker 2: He's making Zire Franklin seven or eight million dollars, so I guess they could have thought that's a good deal for him, but it's really not. It's probably about what he would get in free agency if that. I saw an interesting comment from one of the Packers beat writers. I wish I could credit him right now that maybe some of the guys that they let go were a little bit more about behind the scenes culture fit ish, injury ish, but maybe more culture fit. Because the writer made sure to say, well, that's not talking about in a Bari Moliquillis, Romeo Dobbs. So it's basically the rest of them. You can just fill in the gaps who the rest of them was. So I was like, okay, interesting if that's part of the calculus, but it's it's hard to put that into my grade. There's not a lot to talk about here. I'm gonna go I just they're getting punished because it's like, I'm sure this happens with English teachers. If you're just going, if you just have a bunch of great students in a row and you're giving solid grades and then you get a clunker, You're like, all right, finally I give someone a D. So I'm going to give them a D. Let's give them a sixty eight. I don't get it.

00:35:27
Speaker 1: I'm giving them a D. Yeah. A team that's on the coastfy that. And I know they've had the youngest rush in the league for two years, but them getting older and slower at specific positions I just find completely puzzling.

00:35:37
Speaker 2: And the Packers fans will be like, well, this is what we do. We don't we don't do it in free agency, and for the most part, I think they wish they did do more things in free agency. It went poorly when they tried last year with Aaron Banks and Nate Hobbs, and maybe they were afraid. But is that working, like not doing it in free agency, like is it really working? I don't. I kind of don't think it is. I think they want more considering the quarterback on the coach that they have, they could be better. Let's go to the Vikings. They signed Kyler Murray and they only have to pay him one point three million dollars. What a nifty trick by this Vikings team to make me look at their season coming up so differently. When they went into this offseason in the biggest cap hell of any team in the league. They got Aaron Jones to take a pay cut down to five and a half million dollars so he stayed. They re signed Eric Wilson. This was easily the biggest contract they signed this offseason, which is crazy. The rush linebacker. He gets twelve and a half million dollars guaranteed. It's not that big of a contract. It's three years, twenty two million dollars. But they just haven't made any other moves a move around the edge that I like. You know, Brian Flores pointed at James Pierre from the Steelers and said, I want that guy, and he got them for only three point seven million dollars guaranteed on a two year deal. They had some players retire c J. Hamm, Ryan Kelly, Their center retired. They cut Javon Hargrave and Jonathan Allen who were making big money and got deals elsewhere. Harrison Smith may or may not retire. We don't really know that right now. It's definitely been a step back off season for the Vikings and yet making Kyler happen in the couple little moves that they have to me have all been like doubles to better and so I really like their offseason so far.

00:37:19
Speaker 1: I agree with you. I think it's disappointing. I think to lose the solid competent players. I think Jalen Nayla can be a really good player down the lines. Of losing him, I think is disappointing. The hard Graven Allen ones. They just didn't work in Kelly. There's not much you can do with the injury history there. But when you go from incompetent quarterback to competent quarterback. I know Kyler Murray has his faults and I pointed out many of them before, but it's a massive bar rais I believe over JJ McCarthy. So if you do that at that price, how is that not a great offseason? That's what it comes out to me. And you can talk about all the stuff on the margins. I think the James Pierre deal is an unbelievable pickup for them. It's just a way cheap than I thought. Flyer on a guy you'll probably just be better being in the orbit Brian Flores. So to go from bad quoter back to I think above average starting quale back at that cost is as good as anyone can do it enough season.

00:38:09
Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't have a ton of juice on offense outside of Jefferson and Addison, which is quite a big except for but it's it's thin at wide receiver. Aaron Jones and Jordan Mason will get you buy at running back, but you would like a little more juice there. Hockinson also came back I should have mentioned on a reduced deal that hadn't got all the details there, but it sounds like he's taking less money in exchange for hitting free agency sooner. So you really look through their roster, I don't see crazy holes. Even the competent veterans you mentioned like cutting Hardgrave and Jonathan Allen and those were cat moves. But they have some young guys that are pretty solid on the defensive line, and I see a contender. I think Kyler saved this entire idea of this Vikings build that they can just stay right there and contend.

00:39:00
Speaker 1: I agree that I do worry about another year of Flores going to all with that system. It's just the sustainability of defense. Yet it doesn't work that way. Does he have another trick up his sleeve. I'm not so sure. He's kind of pushed his chips all the way in for a very unique style, and at some point I think he could crack or get found out, and I wouldn't want to be on the wrong end of that season which could be coming up. But the defensive line point you mentioned is a good one because Jalen Redmond is the most viable piece they have in the middle of that defense, and so keeping him a really cheap deal to let the expensive big names go makes a ton of sense to me. It would just be nice to have a few more guys in the rotation, but I think you can just find those guys all the way up through training camp. That's just always an older interior defensive lineman out there who can give you serviceable rotation snaps.

00:39:43
Speaker 2: Right, they had these other young late picks Tyron Ingram Dawkins and Levi Drake Rodriguez who played like serviceable snaps, and they'll they'll be in the mix. Jonathan Gernard is on this roster still. There were reports that Eagles were interested in trading him, that he was available for a Day two pick. So watch this space. But they've they've gotten through the cap issues in a way, because you had to be cap compliant when the new league year starts. They have six million dollars in cap space, which is basically nothing you have to sign a rookie class. They don't really have it now. Maybe they'll trade Grenard, which which would hurt. We'll see, but right now I'm gonna give them considering the limitations. I consider the limitations, so I am grading on a curve. They were second by the way last year in cash spending, so sometimes when you spend a ton of cash one year, it comes back to the pack the next year. And that is where they're at. They're towards the bottom of the league. This year. They fired QUESSI I don't know if that counts in.

00:40:40
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a couple of great bump.

00:40:43
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think I'll just go eighty that's kind of a eh, it's fine.

00:40:47
Speaker 1: Yeah, I get I gave a bee having eighty is fat. I was worried you're going to try and talk me into something high, as though.

00:40:54
Speaker 2: Eighty one eighty two if a B would be an eighty four eighty five from you. But we're just throwing in We're throwing out numbers NFC South Tua, tongue of Ilo is on the falcons. There's there's some moves that just I haven't like taken enough time to. I will go through like I will go through the whole, you know, spiel. But do you sometimes read books or movies that like while you were reading or watching them, they were like okay to good, but they stick with you. Oh yeah, it's like takes a while to really understand almost to like I feel like to a tongue of iload to the falcons, I haven't fully grasped what that's gonna mean for all of our lives.

00:41:29
Speaker 1: Ali Now, I don't buy that it's the good scheme fit that people are talking about. I think that I accept people view tours kind of like point god type player and gets the ball out quickly, and that could what with Kevin Stefenski. But Stefenski's offense is way more about quote about movement, about true stretch when it's rolling the way he wanted to roll. And the only season it's not really run like that was when Joe Flacco got off the couch when absolutely maniacal. I was just dicing people up down the field, which is not too a skill set, and anyway, that was not designed up by chemist. He had a guy just go in fuego off the couch. But it mostly requires a true stretch element with real backside conflict on defenders where the quarterback has a real ability to roll out and throw on the move and be a real running threat themselves. And that's just not to us game. So it's going to be from the gun trying to pick people apart. And I can see that vision with the pieces they have with Pits, with Drake London, with Bijon that I can kind of get myself there. But I just don't think it's a one to one skill set thing, and I don't think it's at all if you're building any kind of infrastructure, which they may not be for Michael Pennix, the skill sets are in no way similar and just because they both throw left, which does help in terms of like designing the playbook and building things out. There's just no oval ap there in the skills of the two guys, and I just don't think Tour is a natural fit for stefanskis done at his best, he may evolve and that would be I think a benefit for Kevin Stefanski. But it felt like a tired off season to me. And that's been my complaint about Sefanski throughout the off seasons that I worry he's going to come in tired, out of ideas, and this whole thing felt tired and out of ideas to me.

00:43:04
Speaker 2: Fair I don't think he's gonna have that much juice, but I'm in terms of personnel, say you have Matt Ryan, you have Ian Cunningham. But in terms of choosing a quarterback, obviously he's gonna have a big voice, and they had a choice. If you really think about there was three quarterbacks. It's very unique this year that essentially could start for you that were coming for free because their old teams are paying them. Actually four if you include Kirk Cousins in that mix. But obviously they weren't gonna be that team, and it was Gino as Kyler Murray and it was Tua and they went really early on just jumping on the Tua train before Kyler was even really available. I don't know. Here's one thing I know, before I get into all the moves Ali that you threw out there, I can promise you they are not building in infrastructure for Michael Pennix.

00:43:52
Speaker 1: I mean, which is reasonable. And I would prefer to watch Week one with Tour at quarterback. Then I wipe Michael Pennox. I know he's got the injury, but ib he just asked me to who do you want to watch run the offense in week one? I do like the idea of Tua just accuracy, spread it around to the weapons. I'm into that, but anything beyond that, I just really don't think he fits. While Kem Szefanski's offense has looked when it's at its best, Kyler is a tricky one anyway, because Kyler hates going un to center and rolling out. That's just not how he wants to play, even though the skills of that to be really effective about it. So I can understand why they say what it's not interested in that style of player. But tours in that guy either right.

00:44:28
Speaker 2: And there was a moment into us career where we might have been looking a little too hard, but it was like, oh, he is making a few improvived plays. There are a few off schedule plays there. If he can just sprinkle those in, you got something. But those have gone away. I think he's less mobile, whether it's the concussion issues or just his athleticism. As he remains in the league and the hits that he's taking, he just hasn't looked like that guy. I think a fun idea for a show I just thought about it when we were talking about Penix would be like the disrespect rankings, because I might rank how the Falcons have publicly spoken about Michael PENNOCKX as more disrespectful than the Vikings in terms of they were talking about JJ McCarthy. It's like, could not be more clear that they don't really count on Michael Pennox at all. It's just like, Wow, okay, I.

00:45:16
Speaker 1: Think the mccafee one is an all time I've seen an organization so pulpfully say we think this guy stings. Some of you guys keep re pulleting. We actually think he might be okay, and we're telling you week after week he's terrible.

00:45:29
Speaker 2: It's fair. It's close, though. The Pennocks stuff is not cool. Here's what else they did. It's been a quiet off season. We'll keep this one quick. They signed a handful of pass catchers for cheap money. Johan Dotson who actually got kind of like a mid tier, low number three receiver type of contract, which is a worthy bet. I don't hate that. Alamidae as Akias is back for cheap money. Austin Hooper, the former Patriots tight end, is back as like a backup to Kyle Pitts, who they tagged. They signed some volume in terms of defense of players. Aziz Ojulari is going to be there, Ebacom is there, Deshaun hand from the Chargers is here. Christian Harris, the linebacker from the Texans this year. Nick Fok is on this team. Overall, they kind of took a step back, though, if you kind of look at the players that they lost, Tyler Algier, Darneld Mooney, Arnold Abaukehetti, David Onyamada, Caden LSD offered not amazing players, but I think more has left the building than has really come into the building. They have twenty two million dollars, not a ton in cap space, but some And one thing I've noticed should be on the Falcons fans raidar like not spending a lot of money the last two years, two years in a row. Just wanting your team to be spending money. That's what I want. If like, they're pretty low in cash and in both of those years, so that maybe speaks to the poor cap management overall. I'm going to give this off season a C, like a low C seventy three.

00:46:55
Speaker 1: I'm going to give it a D. Didn't look the highest anyway going into it, and the plays you just listed out. They signed very similar archetype of players who are worse than the players they let leave the building. I think kid Nellis is really good they let him go. I really like Donald Mooney Alja fits a pretty valuable role on Yamada. Similar where it's like, I know, you can get those guys pretty cheap, but he's good at what he does, and the guys they brought in to replace them just on at the same level.

00:47:21
Speaker 2: To me, not yet, not allowed to believe in right now, that's not true of our next team, and it's why it is time for charging into the offseason, presented by Apple Card for all your game day purchases. Download the Apple Card in the Wallet app today and start earning daily cash back on all your game day purchases, from tickets to tailgate munchies to merch subject to credit approval. We had to give the Panthers the honor of charging into the offseason because they spent that money, sixty million dollars in real guaranteed money to Jalen Phillips on a four year, one hundred and twenty million dollar contract. They got Devin Lloyd in the building for only fifteen million dollar a year, twenty five million dollars guaranteed. That's very similar to these other linebacker contracts that were out there this offseason, especially to Kobe Dean and Koay Walker, but not even that much more than the other ones like tre Tremaine Edmonds, for instance. They signed Rashid Walker to a deal. We're still waiting to see the terms. I heard some whispers that his lack of a market might have been because of his health and because of some physical concerns with Rashid Walker. They also made a lot of small moves John Metchi. They added for depth Luke Fortner, who was okay for the Saints at center last year, might be the starting center here. They brought back sometime host of the show, JJ Jansen to be their long snapper once again, one of the longest tenured players in the history of the Panthers, and at this point in the NFL, who knows. And then this show is primarily a show ali for me to like catch all the things that fell through the cracks, and it is partly to remember that Kenny Pickett has got four million dollars from the Panthers, way more than I would expect it, and it's on this roster. So is Andy Dalton for now. But they keep saying they're gonna cut him, but they haven't actually cut him yet. Let's let's start at the top. What do you think of the Phillips Lloyd moves.

00:49:16
Speaker 1: I love getting the blue chip players. I love giving Eero everro some actual human players who can play in the NFL on defense, giving him a chance starts. They do something with good players. I thought the Lloyd contract was wild, as you mentioned that, it's how comparative it is to other players. I just think he is in a tier above all the of the guys who are available in framesy. So I thought he'd go for significantly more, and I'm surprised he didn't just go back to Jacksonville given that that was the market. The Phillips one, I do think is a pretty heavy overpay, given the health concerns, the injury history, how he just wins as a one on one Russia compared to paying elite money for the guys who can just beat up on any kind of tackle in the NFL. I think he's a little bit more slippery than it is like true straight juice and power, which is how usually the best guys in the league win year after year. But if you wanted to go and get pass rushing juice, you would eat a shopping in the defaoway market and hoping for the best. Or you can get a guy who truly does have kind of top five in the league type production within him, I think if he plays every snap in a season. So I understand why they went for Phillips. They went for the best thing they could on the market. I think a little bit of them getting burned by Milton Williams last season and just deciding we are gonna pay whatever it takes to get this one over the line, and so I don't love that from a team billing perspective, maybe adding an extra couple of dollars on there, just to make sure you get it done having been burned in the past. But all that made sense to me.

00:50:36
Speaker 2: That part of it made sense that and I did think Milton Williams was absolutely a factor. I also think they had to go way over the top of what the Eagles were offering. In the end, I have a feeling Phillips would have taken less money to play with the Eagles. Eagles were offering definitely in the twenties, whether that was twenty two, twenty four to twenty five, who knows. I don't really know. I think the Panthers had to pay a little bit of a okay, we're the Panthers tax on that and really give them the guarantees, and they got it, and it's just the right time in their team build to do it. I do hate the risk because of his injuries in the past. Where like in a best case scenario, you know he lives up or gets close to this value and stays healthy. There are plenty of other scenarios, whether it's performance or injury where he doesn't. But I think if they were gonna make a risk, he moved like that this this was the time to do it. I don't hate it.

00:51:30
Speaker 1: I agree with that. And I think if you just package the contracts together, were Phillips and Lloyd, and he said they got these two plays full of this combined value, I'd be like, Okay, that's great. That's solid value for two I think potential game changing plays. They just haven't had anything like that on defense for years now.

00:51:46
Speaker 2: Well, they could also say we got Jalen Phillips for I believe about the same guaranteed money as the Bills got DJ Moore. So you feel good about that. Good with that. It's probably nothing, but I noticed it both Rico Dawdle and Ashawn Robinson left the Panthers, and they were both kind of salty about it and made negative comments about the Panthers. Just something I noticed. Maybe Rico Dado was simply that like they didn't value me, but Ashawn Robinson in his press conference for the Bucks kind of like called into question how things were running. Care Just just something I noticed from these two guys.

00:52:25
Speaker 1: Something to know. I love Rico Dadda because he does seem to believe he's Eric Dickerson and being held back by the organization. I admired that level of confidence.

00:52:33
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if it was anything more than that. I don't really think this is the thing, but it just it was interesting. And Ashawn is in the division. We're gonna We're gonna get to him in just a second. Also, Yosh Ninemann retired. I hadn't mentioned that offensive lineman who had a pretty good career as a late rounder, undrafted guy. And yeah, they lost Kaid Mays, who they get out spent for not a ton of cap space here for the Panthers. Did we give them a grade? No, we didn't. Wasn't everything I wanted, but the Devin Lloyd really makes me enjoy it more so I'm gonna give them a B eighty five.

00:53:07
Speaker 1: I'll go a minus. What does that guessnum as why nine nineties? I think a minus said it would have been a n A if not for just the I know they had to have paid for Phillis, but it's to me a pretty dramatic overpay with the injury concerns they did.

00:53:19
Speaker 2: They did take two of my top ten players and then Walker ended up in my top thirty somewhere. They got them for cheap. There might be an injury situation there, but that really meets I love that move considering where they were at. Just they needed something respectable. All right, I'm bumping it up to an eighty eight eighty nine. All right. That was charging into the offseason, presented by Apple Card. Apply for Apple Card in the Wallet app today and start earning daily cash back on all your game day purchases, from tickets to tailgate munchies to merch subject to credit approval. All right, Let's get to the Bucks. The most money they spent per year, it was a tie between kate A and our guy and Ashan Robinson. I was really surprised. Ashan Robinson, who's been just a workmanlike rotational defensive lineman, got ten million dollars. It's really just a one year contract, so nothing in the future. But Kate Atten also got ten million a year on a three year deal. It's fully guaranteed twenty million dollars to the first two years, essentially guaranteed. They signed two ex lions the Bucks. In al Kahed Mohammad, we mentioned that's a contract that's up to six, so a lot of times that's like a four million dollar contract. Alex Adzeloni got twelve million dollars the linebacker from the Lions two years seventeen million dollars. Similar deal for Kenneth Gainwell, who got two years, fourteen million dollars. The Steelers' MVP adds to the backfield with Bucky Irving. I liked bringing back and you couldn't bring back everyone, but they lost Mike Evans. I think they wanted to keep Mike Evans, didn't they Maybe not that much, you would think so, But his contract is so low it makes me wonder. Rashad White is gone, Jamel Dean is gone. Son Reddick and Levonte David are both out there. I think Levante David is retiring, and Jake Browning is on the Buccaneers.

00:55:10
Speaker 1: Do you know that I didn't know that.

00:55:12
Speaker 2: Yeah, because not inspiring that that's not overly exciting. It's a downgrade I think from Teddy. Middle of the pack in terms of cap space in cash. Not really a lot to talk about there, A little curious. I think the Evans move through them for a loop to start their offseason because or they just didn't want him. Because he only got he basically got a one year, fourteen million dollar contract. Mike freaking Evans.

00:55:37
Speaker 1: I think they knew he was gone and they tried to do a face saving golf. I thought this was almost an apocalypse of an offseason. Frankly, wo I really respect Jason light He sees football the way I see football. I like guys who see football the way I see football. As an assist. This is, I think, as bad as it can go. When the everything you've built towards was we all going to at some point, but the chips in to try and have a second run of this thing. We're going to try and win it. The back end this Baker Mayfield contract, we are searching the market French defenders. Can we get Max Crosby. We don't have the goods to quite do the deal before the Ravens do it and it falls through. Can we go and get Trey Hendrickson we get beat by the raven shnannigans for Trey Hendrickson? Where else can we go? In the meantime, as we are kind of signaling to the veteran on our roster, our future, all of fame, I promise you this is the year we're going in, We're going for it. You can't get the deals done, and then he decides I'm out of it. The culture doesn't fit for me anymore. It's not a winning culture. You're bringing top balls back again. When I was expecting him to move on, I'm out. I think all around what their goals were, which was to go and get a premiere a one pass rusher that they've been chasing for so long, had the ammunition to do it, had the will to do it. They lose out on that, and it costs them the most important player in their franchise.

00:56:51
Speaker 2: It's a convincing argument. I could even think, like, you're absolutely right in terms of where they are in the team build, like this is the time to go. But that was also their year last year, and they didn't even make the playoffs in one of the worst divisions in football. It really didn't get enough national attention. A because they're the Bucks, and then B because the Bengals and the Bills and the Ravens were happening to various degrees. I shouldn't kill the Bills too much. They were very close to making the Super Bowl, but the Bucks, it was kind of a catastrophic season and they decided not to get off everything, And yeah, this offseason feels like treading water. And some of the comments from Mike Evans and he's tried to play both sides of the fence and be appreciative of the fans, did indicate to me a little bit that he felt like the culture was stale. When he talked about what he was looking for for San Francisco, maybe what he wasn't getting. And yeah, it's disappointing because this team should be more fun than it is. But really nothing you can hang your hat on in terms of this offseason other than Kenny g It's fine.

00:57:59
Speaker 1: Kenny, It's a very good pick up. I love them resigning Kadarton. I thought the Angeloni contract and signing was a big giveaway. They've been crying out for a really explosive kind of one step pop and drop mugg dub linebacker for three seasons. They should have gone and got Devin Lloyd. He was available. To the mind of trade. They said no, thank you missed out on that one. Dramatically. Levontay thinks retiring every season they decide not to replace that. They going to get Alex Andeloni, which is a carbon copy of what Levonte David gives them and is not a player who plays as an explosive pop and drop mugg dub linebacker. He's a running, chase, running rally, high five everyone type player. So they just go one to one across the board on players that weren't good enough to get them over the top. Anyway, they're telling everyone who will listen, this is the year we're making the big moves. We tried last offseason. We got a little bit of cold feet at the asking prices. It's gonna be this year. We're running it back with Todd. The only way we can improve the team is to take the assets we have and try and go and get a premier pass rusher. And I don't quite agree with that. I don't think that they're quite where they believe they are in terms of like competitiveness to win the whole, But they think they are. And then I just thought they got cold feet on every major move.

00:59:05
Speaker 2: Also, haven't really heard about a Baker contract extension that that's kind of looming over is he got to be their guy long term? They need a better season out of him. Overall, give me your your bucks grade.

00:59:18
Speaker 1: It's a D. I would have it as an F. But because the Crosby deal fell through and that's still hanging out that I'm not ruling out that they could maybe get back in Boltimore.

00:59:28
Speaker 2: Okay, so a D A sixty five for Ali, I'm I'm definitely factoring in the fact that Jason Light like confronted Connor Or for his takedown of the Bucks right before they had a great season. We've had Jason light on the show. He always like calls calls back to things that people say about him, So you know that's that's a factor here. And yet I feel like I got to give him a sixty nine. He's still in the D range here. If if they want to clip this and bring back to me after all these moves work out well al Kaheed Muhammad actually ups his sack total, then I'll be happy to take it because I want the Bucks to do well. All right, let's take a break and we will wrap up our NFC grades with the NFC West right after this. Back on NFL Daily. I always feel like Ali that we were the kids that are letting down our parent, Eric Roberts when we go like a little too long on the show. He just likes a nice, tight off season show, but this is these are gonna be unique shows in terms of really recapping it all, gonna we're gonna sprint home here or not. The Cardinals had a quiet offseason. I would say. They signed Isaac Seabalu to a three year, thirty one million dollar contract. Now they're one of those fifteen of that is guaranteed, so really like a year and a half is guaranteed. Kendrick Bourne and Tyler Alzier are both on this team for two year contracts around five to six million dollars each. That's about what Gardner Minshew is making five point seventy five which sounds like a backup but it's actually more than Jacoby Brissett is making, so that's interesting. They got James Connor to take a big pay cut to come back. He is only making two million dollars this year, which is real backup money. That's interesting. And then just a ton of micro moves. Roy Lopez, who they've had before, comes back. Andrew Billings defensive lineman, a couple offensive linemen Matt pryor Elijah Wilkinson. Really small stuff. They are fourth in the league in terms of cap space and twenty seventh. In terms of cash spending. They also did not spend a lot of cash last year. This is the team that was asking their players to pay for their lunches. Someone was saying Kyler Murray was like getting extra meals on that visit to Minnesota. That's why he's signed there. He's just like, Wow, the salad bar is incredible. So it'd be nice to see the Cards spend a little more money, even if their fans would would I think push back to me Ali and say no, this year is about the reset, and we're thinking about twenty twenty seven. What do you think it's.

01:02:10
Speaker 1: About the reset? With a GM who's been here this long and promises us the roster is more talented than it was allowed to be shown last season. I just I don't see any kind of vision. They're in a division with three freight trains and there's not even a let's just tear the thing completely down. Let's go and trade Buddha the most viable thing we have. Let's go and trade Marvin Harrison Junior. See there's a market there. There's not taking one of the tracks of either semi competitive rebuild or just saying we're ripping it down to the studs. This is just so met and bland and in the middle and cheat bets on players I'm not sure are that great or are gonna do anything for you by the time you may even consider being competitive again. I just find it completely puzzling, even down to you tell me if I'm wrong on this. But wasn't there option to try and get Jimmy Garoppolo in the building. They're gonna let Kyler Murriy go and then call Jimmy Garoppolo and see if they can get him in the building. It's like, I just don't understand what the moves all for a GM who is supposedly at the very very end of this thing because he's got the second crack. Now with another head coach, they retain the defensive cord nata, the signaling that they think the roster was better than it was proven under less coaching staff it was not as good as they believe it was, and they make moves all on the margins.

01:03:18
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't sell a rebuild a restart with the team with the GM that's been there this long. You just can't do it. And you can't sell it when you're saying we like his draft picks, and yes, if you look at Monte austin Forts draft, he's hit plenty of singles and he hasn't had a lot of strike up. Like They've been solid singles, some doubles, some misses, but overall it's been okay. Like they have a lot of NFL players, but it's just not enough. And Jimmy Garoppolo, I believe, turned them down. According to the report, Jordan kind of mentioned, you know, Micha Lfler has this connection, but you get knocked in the grates for that too. You weren't even good enough for Jimmy g who might be retiring and maybe just his heart is in it anymore, or just likes being Matthew Stafford's backup and it's good luck kind of into that and if like no, if like they don't, if the Rams though on, it might be just like, yeah, well I've made a lot of money. I really like LA It's it's been a good it's been a good run. I don't know what to say about this team. I don't know. I'm just gonna throw my grade on right right away because I'm not gonna break down the Roy Lopez move for that long D minus sixty two.

01:04:27
Speaker 1: I'll go with an F factoring in everything they've done over the whole off season. I just you got to pick a lane at some point, and I just feel like they are straggling through the middle to who knows what. Maybe they crush it in the draft, but even then, it still feels like they are so far away when you look at what's left in the division.

01:04:46
Speaker 2: Even Tyler out Gear for that money is fine. He's getting like six million dollars a year. But even him and Born for five six million dollars a year, it's like it even those signings are kind of like pick a lane. Gardner minshew Is is a pick alane signing. Why why not do the leak? Willis moved that the Dolphins did it. They did it despite totally resetting and having very little cap space and having to figure it out. The Cardinals are swimming in cap space. They have no use for it. What are they doing? I don't know.

01:05:15
Speaker 1: When you when you see like Devin Lloyd out there for that kind of contract and you have oodles of cap space, it just makes no sense and not just try and make a deal the young players. Yeah, that was also maybe two or three wins better than it was last year. You just particularly on the defensive side, with all the injuries they had. This move, these moves do well, maybe an extra game if you're looky. So it's still leading to now.

01:05:37
Speaker 2: Of me, right, I agree with the idea that they were better than their record show last year, that they were maybe more of a six to seven win team. But they're in the hardest division in football, and they're getting worse, like they're not getting they're not getting better because everyone else is getting better, including the Rams. Fascinating offseason, they trade a first, the twenty seventh pick, a third, a fifth, and a sixth for Trent McDuff and they pay him fifty million dollars fully guaranteed, although the second year of the contract they'd have to cut him after one year. Basically they're guaranteed about I think it was seventy eight million dollars practically, so it's not really one hundred like they said, but it's pretty close seventy eight. It's really more of a two year deal than they could get out of if it went really poorly, and so he's a little closer because it's an extension to twenty eight million dollars a year, not thirty one, but that's not crazy inflation. That's still the tippity top of the market for Trent McDuffie all those picks. They also give his teammate Jalen Watson the cornerback, twenty six point five million dollars guaranteed on a three year, fifty one million dollar deal. They resigned Cam Curle to a deal that I think was quietly influential because Cam Curl, I think set the market for all these safeties. The safety's finally got paid, and I really think it's because, well, Cam Curll got like twelve a year, and we're all about the same range as click Cam Crow, and I think they're right, and finally safeties got paid. So they resigned Curl and Quintin Lake. They really haven't los much at all, which is the feather in their cap of this offseason. Kobe Durant is the best player that they've lost. The cornerback Rob Hanstein retired, Jimmy g is a question mark if he's going to play or not again, and they have about twenty two million dollars in cap space. If I'm going to bang on some of the other teams for not spending cash. They are in the bottom five six teams and cash spending in back to back years. You couple that with the awful food selections at SOFI Stadium. Let's let's break out the checkbook. Heres s Dan Cronkey, like, how are we still eating nineteen eighties food? The Rams hate this whenever I bring this up. Yeah, I like it though. I like that they aggressively went after their biggest weakness. What do you think.

01:07:44
Speaker 1: Yeah, I apologize to the audience for continuing the Rams glazing of NFL daily through everything they do except for the food. But this was this was everything I contend to should do. I think they just are operating on a different timeline to effectively everyone else. Given the staff it could retire in the next season, maybe the year after, and so just deciding we're going to overawe the secondary. We're not gonna lie to ourselves and talk about player development. And hey, those guys held steadier for portions of the season, and we thought they should do based on their collective talent. It just was not good enough. And I also think it made them way more versatile that on third down. Now, if they just go straight man coverage with McDuffie and Watson. They're set there in a way they just weren't last season. I think they can do a bit more in the blitz and pressure game because of the corner group they've got now. So they made themselves more talented overall, they made themselves more dynamic and versatile as a defense, and they just went all in on fixing the core problem of the roster. And if you look at it now heading into the draft, they effectively have no holes and they have the thirteenth overall pick to go and have fun with. They can even just go and chase offensive firepower. They could move up in the draft. They've tried every year for like three years to try and move up in the draft. They could look at doing that. So that isn't I think a more complete roster in the league right now.

01:08:56
Speaker 2: I don't disagree. I think they need to be careful. They traded the pick, and I think they will be careful. I think they will try to keep nailing these picks because they are going to need the nucleus after everyone leaves. And that's the thing is, it feels like it's this window because of DeVante and Stafford specifically, and yet if they can just replace the quarterback, which is a big difficult challenge that will be in front of them. I don't think they're going to be in bad position long term at all in terms of the assets that they have, obviously Puka and the coach and the management, and you're investing in players on defense Jalen Watson and Trent McDuffie specifically, but also Quintin Lake, like young players that should be productive, good players for you for the rest of this decade. So you know, they've been on a heater in terms of just slowly getting better every year. They definitely feel like this was a Super Bowl that got away from them. What did you think about the news after the fact that DeVante Adams could have been available in a trade if they got AJ Brown, which now they're getting out there that they're no longer in the AJ Brown market, so maybe trying to calm the waters there with DeVante Adams.

01:10:11
Speaker 1: I thought Davante was exceptional last season. There was some strange chemistry stuff with him and Stafford throughout the season, just not always being on the same page. I still thought he looked phenomenal and was like an absolute killer on third downs. He's obviously crushed people in the red zone all season long, so I would still be heavily in the Davonte Adams market. But aj Brown just with the body type, the physicality is I think just a level above it where Devanta Adams is at the stage of his career. So if you could do a deal to go and get one of the six seven best receivers in the NFL, if the medical checks out, you put anything on the table.

01:10:40
Speaker 2: This isn't the quarterback, right, It would have been a little tricky, but they do have twenty two million dollars in cap space to like make that all work. It smelled to me like another team just trying to throw a little stink bomb into the Rams building. I'm not even kidding, just like, oh you know that they Yeah, It's like, well, we talked about a lot of like different scenarios. Was there a scenario with one team out there that DeVante could have been failed? Like maybe, but I don't think that ended up being too serious. All right, I'll give a I'll give an a minus here for the Rams, A high a minus ninety two, whatever that is.

01:11:13
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go a plus. I only I don't care about Hey, the timeline can push beyond this. It's about parades. You want to have a parade. I think they put themselves in the best position possible to have a parade next off season and three is down the line. Hey, the timeline you can extend it. What I Ashean mcvail will be on NBC around a beach probably in five seasons. Just go and try and get as many parades as possible while stoff it is healthy.

01:11:34
Speaker 2: It's it's tough because it's just such a high bar. But that is that is the whole point. Like last year, they had that team. Even the year before, I feel like they the Eagles were a better team, but they felt like they have been in the mix four or five times now on er McVeagh, where you could say at the end of the year and it's probably one of the best five teams and they've gotten one title out of it. That is sort of how things work. But it's just it's just a brutal business. They absolutely should be right at the top of the mix. I'm curious if you think the forty nine ers are there as well. After they signed Mike Evans, basically a one for fourteen. I mean, the actual contract terms were shocking to me. They control his rights for two more seasons after that, with basically team options, no risk to the team either his agent didn't do well or he had no levere I would have just taken the one for fourteen if I was Evans, like he gave away his rights for the two years after that too. They also added Christian Kirk. I want to stop there before I get into all the other moves and just let's just talk Evans and what you think about his fit with the forty nine ers and the fact that he had to settle for a deal that that was that low.

01:12:41
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think selling for the deal when he kind of said publicly he was doing his own research and he was down to basically betting on Kyle Shanna, Animperdial just Josh Allen, just no one else in the Buffalo building, but Josh Allen limits the market. I agree with you that it's interesting if he could have just done a one year by one year deal just kind of going around contend to con tend to would have loved to have seen him with the Chiefs. But this is a pretty good fallback plot. It brings them a different dimensional offense. I think they needed so desperately reliability, a big third down target who is just consistently open and is open when he's not open, and that's just not something that they've had throughout Kyle Shad's time there. I know they have fun with moving plays around and maximizing stuff out of kind of C plus B type receivers, but I still think Mike Evans is an absolute stud. I think he's still a one player at the position in the league, and so to drop him on top of that receiving call, I think his outstanding work.

01:13:34
Speaker 2: People got scared, understandably from the production three hundred and sixty eight yards eight games last year, but the tape looked good. The problem is the thirty three years old. But that's why he's basically year to year. And you mentioned getting a lot out of lesser receivers. I could absolutely see a situation where Christian Kirk is playing on Thursday night football has a relatively quiet season, but like lights up the rams for one hundred and seventy yards and you're just like, wow, Christian Kirk. They also traded a third round pick for Osa o'degiezooa a fascinating trade we hit from the cowboy side earlier. They brought back day Greenlaw. I don't want to kill them on the contract until I see the actual numbers. It was reported as seven point five, but maybe that was up to we'll see. I thought it was a great by low on Nate Hobbs, who was a very highly sought after free agent last year for the Packers. That's an up to four point five, So that might be a two to three million dollar contract for a guy who was getting ten million dollars a year and still relatively young a year ago. I think they could work him out. They gave ten million dollars guaranteed. It's hilarious that Eddie Pinero got more guaranteed than Drake Greenlaw or Nate Hobbs. Shout out to Verderian Lowe Landy as a backup left tackle. I always said with the Patriots, like he's a little better than people think. People just killing him. They lost Kendrick Bourne, they lost Bryce Huff who retired. Juwan Jennings is still out there. The kind of takeaway there in general, they still have plenty of cap space thirty nine million dollars. They have spent the most in cash on their roster twenty twenty six, which is crazy because you look at this free agency hall, so that's that's older contract that they're spending a lot of money on. Still, my takeaway just big picture is like the Seahawks lost some key players the Rams and forty nine Ers, especially, like this offseason just feels very additive. They weren't assuming Trent Williams is back. They're just adding and they already had, you know, pretty good rosters to begin with. Great and when you're talking about the Rams, what do you think about the forty nine ers?

01:15:27
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you completely. They just added on to the roster. I still in those major question marks about them. Defensively, I thought the Adiyizua pickup was unbelievable value. I could not believe they snagged him for a third round pick. It's everything they need. He's going to be at his best in their system. So I think that's a great signing for them. They do need that rookie class of last year to look like competent professional players of whils it's just gonna fall apart on them again. So they still have a lot of work through. I think just the spine. The defense needs to be thicker and stronger. They have kind of all the fun players and the juice, they just don't have reliability down to down along the interior. Outside of Fred Wanna, It's like that's it. He covers all the holes and he's coming back from a serious injury and he just got to hope and pray that he's going to be the play he was before. And so still a little bit worried about that when you compat into like the rems in terms of the completion of the Rosta, but in terms of just the offseason and what they did, I don't know how they could do any better to get Mike Evans on that contract. Is use only a third round pick to get Odez up. They would never got to play that talented for this year in the third round of the draft. And the Nate Helps one you mentioned, loved that as a Bilo fly and.

01:16:30
Speaker 2: It sounded like they were in on some of the other free agents out there, like Romeo Dobbs initially and like they were I think just ready but also flexible, and I agree I'm going to give them, like I'll give them an ans A ninety one for whatever they did. If they didn't get their top picks, they pivoted very well and to guys that give them really good value, and I suspect they're not done yet. It's it's more of a different conversation that you're right, they're really counting on Nick Bosa coming off of an injury, Fred Warner coming off of an injury, and they don't even know if what they're gonna get for George Kittle and Trent Williams is up there. But that's just part of their team build. I think they need to keep getting younger, they need to do better in the draft in general. That's not part of the free agency grades. So yeah, even as I'm talking about it, might give him a little higher. I'll go ninety three for the forty nine ers.

01:17:23
Speaker 1: I would have gone a the Green Lull one. We'll see what the money is. I just think he's effectively cooked at this phase with grad Maybe he can rediscover some of the magic with the nine as if you can stay on the field. But it felt like just a team bringing one of that guys back at a price that didn't make much sense to me.

01:17:39
Speaker 2: Yeah, they said seven point five and it didn't say up to but we've seen some of these reports have been pretty shaky in the past. All right, let's wrap up with the Seahawks. Very strange offseason in a way, and I had to recheck, like check my research, Like Mike Evans, you might have limited it. That's a good point that he was just like, I'm picking this team, which is badass. He's made so much money, had such a great career, he might have picked his team. And Kyle Shanahan helped convince him to go. Let's go to the six though, who only had four free agents that left, like they re signed two of them, Josh Job and Rashid Shaheed, and then they lost Kenneth Walker, Kobe Bryant, boy Mafe Riek Wollen who three of which were near the top of the market. In Riquollin had to settle for another deal. And that was all their free agents. There was no usually there's like a list of like seventeen twenty people and like nope. That was basically it with just these really good players. And so I give them a little boost because they did a good job re signing a lot of the players that would have been up for free agency previously. And Josh job only gets nine and a half guaranteed. That was not as big a contract as it initially sounded, eight million dollars overall per year, and then Rashid Shaheed I was surprised he did not get more money. He actually got less guaranteed money than Dobbs and Wandel Robbinson around the same per year on a three year deal. Those those moves makes sense. It hurts to lose those good players, but kind of just kicking kicking the canter this year and County on development and saving some money, I think for Jackson Smith and Jigba and Devin Wetherspoon, who are both up for big contracts.

01:19:17
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree that you can't retain everyone. It's just that simple. When the bad teams are going to overpay the champion to try and get the champion plays in the building. You just got and I liked what it felt like prioritizing she Heed over Kenneth Walker. I thought that was significantly the better short term a medium term play, and it could have been pretty easy to be somewhat sentimental. I just bet on one over the other and lets she he'd go to the market and maybe make even more money. Just out there in the open as a freight.

01:19:42
Speaker 2: Andy he did. That was what surprised me. He got out there, and then they ended up having the best best offer for him, I assume unless he gave them a discount.

01:19:50
Speaker 1: But would you agree that they bet on Hihead over Walker. They were just comfortable. I think that's just the, no doubt, the better path. And so to get Joe back at a cost effect that's usually the kind of play who does get overpaid to go away because he was on the championship team and he's like better than the league average, and thefoy gets a significant pay boost. So I just thought all around it was as good as they could do with the constraints there working in which is trying to keep this call together. And they won the thing early. They were early in the timeline of winning it, which is why they're not having to suffer with fifteen sixteen guys leaving.

01:20:21
Speaker 2: And they are gonna load up. I haven't checked on the compis. I mean it's gonna they're gonna have a dluge of compicts because it's it's about performance, but it's mostly about playing time and the amount of the contract that you signed elsewhere. So especially boy Mafe, Kobe Bryant, and even Kenneth Walker, you know, signed top of the market towards their position and so they'll get some compics. And they did sign Emmanuel Wilson who won't affect their COMPIC formula because he was non tendered by the packers. So that is the one outside guy. If I was Emmanuel Wilson, who had a nice playoff moment there, I would feel special as the only player that the Super Bowl champions have brought into the building. They believe in him, and.

01:21:03
Speaker 1: I do feel like I know a grading weather right now. But they are in line to be a place where they can hoover up the ring chasing guys later in the cycle, where it's like the one year deals, people will take the DeMarcus Lawrence path, some of these kind of aging passworkers who are like, I'm going to go sign a one year deal with someone. I do think they're in line to go and pick those plays up.

01:21:21
Speaker 2: All right, give me your grade last one of the day. Uh B.

01:21:25
Speaker 1: Plus, I guess I really loved that they kept Shaheed in the building and just that's about as well as they could have done. They had plays they did not probably want to say goodbye to you, but you can't keep everyone in house.

01:21:37
Speaker 2: I'd love to find out how far they went on Kobe Bryant, who I think they just decided that's going to be too expensive for what we do and we have some possible replacements, even though he was great for us, I believe, and I think there was some reporting that they were in on Mafe like they would have happily I think accepted him back if the price didn't get quite as high like they did with Shaheed. But you had to say goodbye to to some guys. I'm gonna, yeah, give a little bit of great inflation because of the overall picture of what they've done has been really smart. Because they're defending champs, I'll give them an eighty nine as well. If it was an if it was another team, the Jets, well you can't even compare like some other team had this exact offseason, wouldn't they wouldn't be the Seahawks because they wouldn't have the roster that just won the freaking Super Bowl. Great job today, Ali, you know you doubleheader this week. A lot of Ali in the feed. I love it. With the Jalen Wattle breaking news and now the NFC grades, and I think next time we'll talk NFL Draft with you. And I'm working on I haven't told you this, I might as well just tell you on air a forties in free Agents episode if you're down with you and Daniel Jeremiah and I'm just gonna like throw red meat into the dream, into the middle of the ring and you fight. Will you do that for me?

01:22:52
Speaker 1: Fight DJ? I'm not sure if I would fight DJ. An intellectual sparring I'm interested in, but a fight. Let's see.

01:23:02
Speaker 2: Let's see he has some I just want to listen to that conversation. So it's just selfish.

01:23:08
Speaker 1: There are some takes I am ready to pick up with mister Jeremiah that he has.

01:23:12
Speaker 2: Okay, I like that. Let's hit that music and let's say goodbye. This is going to be an annual event, these free agency grades. So Eric and we apologize Dad for going so long. Not our last show of the week, though we will be back in the studio myself, Jordan Rodrieg and Patrick Claybahd can't wait for that one until then. Yes, the regular season, I think when this show is over,