TLFX-Games King of the Cast Finals: Kevin Nash vs. Vince McMahon

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<v Speaker 1>It is in many ways the most important decision we'll
<v Speaker 1>ever make in our lifetimes. Welcome to the final installment
<v Speaker 1>of the TLFX Games atvent Center. I'm Sean Mooney and
<v Speaker 1>we've come upon the finals this election day of the
<v Speaker 1>one and only King of the Cast tournament to declare
<v Speaker 1>the greatest character in the history the ten year history
<v Speaker 1>of the Lapsed Fan Wrestling podcast, and a bit of
<v Speaker 1>a different format, a bit of a different approach for
<v Speaker 1>fans here this time, as our two finalists, Lapsed Vince
<v Speaker 1>McMahon and Lapsed Kevin Nash come face to face in
<v Speaker 1>the same room, in the same environment, with the same stakes,
<v Speaker 1>in one final bid closing arguments if you will. To
<v Speaker 1>you fans of the Lapsed Fan, We're Wrestling Federation and
<v Speaker 1>all of it's various and sundry subsidiaries. Of course, as always,
<v Speaker 1>this final installment here live on location at a warehouse
<v Speaker 1>in an undisclosed city. It's brought to you by our
<v Speaker 1>friends at Garage Beer, White Beer Premium. The garage is
<v Speaker 1>always open and so is the field. So are the stakes,
<v Speaker 1>so is your ballot. As a reminder, on Tuesday November fifth,
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty four, members of the Lapsedman's solar system can
<v Speaker 1>cast their votes just one day of voting. This time
<v Speaker 1>the spirit of the finest of election procedures between Kevin
<v Speaker 1>Nash and Vince McMahon one day on the Lapsed Fan's
<v Speaker 1>ex account at the Lapsed Fan you must be there.
<v Speaker 1>You must be counted to determine who where's the crown
<v Speaker 1>after all is said and done so with their final treaties,
<v Speaker 1>if you will, wasting no more time and without any
<v Speaker 1>further ado, here in the TLFX Schemes event center, let's
<v Speaker 1>welcome in Lapse Nash and Lapstvins, gentlemen, thanks for joining
<v Speaker 1>us here.
<v Speaker 2>Hey, you know, fuck it, I'm done with that. Yes,
<v Speaker 2>I know you're down with that. And mister Mooney happy
<v Speaker 2>to be.
<v Speaker 1>Here, very happy to have you. It's exciting, it's intensity
<v Speaker 1>personified here and you can cut the tension with a knife.
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to do my level best to try to
<v Speaker 1>keep both sides of this equation of this debate, if
<v Speaker 1>you will, in the format of equal time, not allow time.
<v Speaker 2>Excuse me, I believe in my time. I don't believe
<v Speaker 2>in mister Nash getting as much opportunity as I have
<v Speaker 2>because I am the leader, I am the owner. I
<v Speaker 2>am the overall entity deity of all of professional entertainment.
<v Speaker 1>Are you perhaps suggesting that mister Nash's time is not now?
<v Speaker 2>Hey you know what you know? Then, man, I'm just saying, hey,
<v Speaker 2>you know, fuck it. I'm going to give you the
<v Speaker 2>time that you need, you know, but I think it's
<v Speaker 2>fair that shot. I'm not done with you. You and
<v Speaker 2>I have history, and I'm gonna fuck you up.
<v Speaker 1>Gentlemen, I want to start with some opening comments before
<v Speaker 1>this gets off the rails, before it even gets started
<v Speaker 1>and laps Nash, I'm want to give you the first
<v Speaker 1>bite at the apple here. So, yeah, right, tell everybody
<v Speaker 1>within the sound of your voice why it is that
<v Speaker 1>you feel you should be crowned King of the cast.
<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean, I think it's pretty fucking obvious. You know.
<v Speaker 2>I'm able to fucking find every which way. You know,
<v Speaker 2>I find the back roads, I find the main roads,
<v Speaker 2>I get on the highways, I get on the byways.
<v Speaker 2>You know, it doesn't matter where I go. I fucking
<v Speaker 2>find the way, And whether or not you think that
<v Speaker 2>I deserve it or not, that doesn't fucking matter. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>what matters is the fact that I know how to
<v Speaker 2>get myself out of any fucking predicament. You know, you
<v Speaker 2>got a dead end over here, I find another way out.
<v Speaker 2>You get a fucking you know, bridge taken out by
<v Speaker 2>a fucking flood. I know where I'm going. So it's
<v Speaker 2>got nothing to do with whether people think I'm qualified
<v Speaker 2>or whether I think I'm fucking qualified. The bottom line
<v Speaker 2>is I'm gonna find my way right to where I belong,
<v Speaker 2>and I am the King of the cast, been fucking
<v Speaker 2>owning this thing, booking this ship since day one.
<v Speaker 1>Now lapsed, Vince. We want to turn to you and
<v Speaker 1>give you a chance for your opening Selvo. Why should
<v Speaker 1>do me? King of the cast, mister Nash, I don't.
<v Speaker 1>You can go ahead and you can talk about it,
<v Speaker 1>you know, getting which way. I don't know what the
<v Speaker 1>fuck it is you're talking about. Oh, I think you
<v Speaker 1>know exactly what I'm talking You know, I don't listen,
<v Speaker 1>all right. You get your different ways that you drive things,
<v Speaker 1>and you have your little secret passages and stuff like that,
<v Speaker 1>but that doesn't get you anywhere, because the bottom line
<v Speaker 1>is when you're looking around, when you're looking around trying
<v Speaker 1>to find your way out, I'm killing you.
<v Speaker 2>I'm destroying you. See, I've gone into every situation, every
<v Speaker 2>board meeting, every one on one encounter, every just you know,
<v Speaker 2>every you know, a complimentary phone call to somebody, some
<v Speaker 2>you know, just a little personal one on one session.
<v Speaker 2>I go into every single one of those like it's
<v Speaker 2>the last thing I'm ever going to do in my life.
<v Speaker 2>I go in there like I'm going to be killed,
<v Speaker 2>and I'm not going to be killed. I will rip
<v Speaker 2>you apart. You and I have a pleasant phone call.
<v Speaker 2>You're going down. You have a board meeting. You're gonna
<v Speaker 2>share your ideas, your big ideas. When this is where
<v Speaker 2>I think the company could go. Fuck you. You're going down.
<v Speaker 2>You can find any which way you want. You can
<v Speaker 2>take your lefts and your rights and go straight ahead.
<v Speaker 2>I'll be there and I'll be blocking your path every time.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah you say that, now you're fucking blocking my path.
<v Speaker 2>I'm already scooting around you.
<v Speaker 1>Oh gentlemen, if you could please rephrase from direct rebuttals
<v Speaker 1>until called upon, you'll certainly get a chance.
<v Speaker 2>To respond to their rules. Now. Huh Yeah, well you
<v Speaker 2>know what you know.
<v Speaker 1>I can just sort of see that this could very
<v Speaker 1>easily become an intendable situation.
<v Speaker 2>And about this fucking guy. See he tried to kill
<v Speaker 2>me before. What, yes, you did, and you know you did.
<v Speaker 2>First of all, you tanked my company. Hey, you know,
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what you're fucking talking about. You know,
<v Speaker 2>I'm with my pals and you know we're going over
<v Speaker 2>the numbers that we got, and you know what, didn't
<v Speaker 2>take my bank account. So I don't know what the
<v Speaker 2>fuck you're talking about. What I'm talking about, pal, is
<v Speaker 2>that after all that shit, after all that, you decided
<v Speaker 2>to turn your back on me. You decided to abandon me.
<v Speaker 2>And Vince mickmahon does not get abandoned. Vince McMahon abandons people,
<v Speaker 2>but you don't abandon me. Well, I don't know about that.
<v Speaker 2>I fucking did a good job and became the top
<v Speaker 2>draw in a whole fucking company, keeping that fucking company
<v Speaker 2>alive afloat for god knows how many years.
<v Speaker 1>If I can quickly fact checked the idea of a
<v Speaker 1>top draw, please, mister McMahon, go ahead before.
<v Speaker 2>Let me tell you. When you look up the definition
<v Speaker 2>of a top draw, it says underneath not Kevin Nash.
<v Speaker 2>The fuck you're talking about sold out Stark ninety eight,
<v Speaker 2>So sold out fucking uh. You know, Bash of the
<v Speaker 2>Beach ninety six. H done it all man. You know
<v Speaker 2>you can fucking talk about whatever I did in your company.
<v Speaker 2>Keep in mind, all right, let me just say this
<v Speaker 2>out loud. It was your fucking idea to tone me down.
<v Speaker 2>I would have been Steve Austin. I would have been
<v Speaker 2>Steve Austin way before Steve Austin. But you said, you
<v Speaker 2>know what, you wanted me to be a fucking hulk Hogan.
<v Speaker 2>You know sell fucking action figures to dumb kids. So
<v Speaker 2>you know, I think you fucking buried your own your
<v Speaker 2>own casket there, pal, you see see all right, see
<v Speaker 2>you know what. See this is funny, This is fucking funny.
<v Speaker 2>You couldn't cut it, Bell, You couldn't cut it as
<v Speaker 2>a top guy. I gave you every opportunity, every opportunity.
<v Speaker 2>And now you come here and you think you're gonna
<v Speaker 2>steal shit from me. You're gonna do it again? No,
<v Speaker 2>because you know when I'm right now, Well, you don't
<v Speaker 2>understand here, my friend, is that this has gone exactly
<v Speaker 2>as I have planned. So you called yourself a booker.
<v Speaker 2>I never said I was a fucking booker, all right.
<v Speaker 2>I never booked anything, you know, not until at least,
<v Speaker 2>you know, February March April nineteen ninety nine. You know, maybe,
<v Speaker 2>but no, let's not fucking you know, get into that shit,
<v Speaker 2>all right, Like I'm not, I'm no booker, all right.
<v Speaker 2>I have ideas. I have ideas, and you know they're
<v Speaker 2>usually fucking good ideas. No they're not, No, they're not.
<v Speaker 2>You haven't had a good idea that's been your own
<v Speaker 2>ever in your life? Okay, you know you fucking got
<v Speaker 2>me that time. You know what my idea was. My
<v Speaker 2>idea was saying, hey, you know what, I got guaranteed
<v Speaker 2>money over in fucking Atlanta, and I got less work dates,
<v Speaker 2>and I'm going to fucking blow the roof off this
<v Speaker 2>place with fucking with my best friend, my best friend, Scott.
<v Speaker 1>If if I could, gentlemen, I'd like to interject just quickly,
<v Speaker 1>because there was one that representation made their events by
<v Speaker 1>by by Kevin that he quote sold out Star Kid
<v Speaker 1>ninety eight, sold out Bash of the Beach ninety six quote,
<v Speaker 1>I've done it all in your assessment, mister McMahon, is
<v Speaker 1>selling out those two WSW pay per views once equivalent
<v Speaker 1>to doing it all.
<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you what he did, sell out. He selld
<v Speaker 2>out when we sold out, when he went to WCW,
<v Speaker 2>when he abandoned ship. That's selling out because you couldn't
<v Speaker 2>see what I had planned at your problem bell. And
<v Speaker 2>you sell out two pay per views, that's great, that's great.
<v Speaker 2>I sell out twelve a year every year, going back
<v Speaker 2>to nineteen eighty one, I sold out every pay per view,
<v Speaker 2>and I'll do it and I'll continue to do it
<v Speaker 2>because I'm vinstack Man, and I know what the people want.
<v Speaker 2>I know what the people need. I just don't give
<v Speaker 2>it to them and they still come back for more.
<v Speaker 1>I would ask mister McMahon, I mean you're here as
<v Speaker 1>a testament to ten years of TLF. Yes, and perhaps
<v Speaker 1>what may say, you're here because of the truth you've
<v Speaker 1>spoken all this time. You talk about what understanding, what
<v Speaker 1>it is that people not only want but need. Can
<v Speaker 1>you give us some more insight here as to why?
<v Speaker 1>Perhaps that mentality will help explain why you're sitting here
<v Speaker 1>in the precipice of victory in the tournament. When you
<v Speaker 1>talk about what people need, what do you mean? And
<v Speaker 1>does that it all translate to the competitive dynamic between
<v Speaker 1>you and your opponent here, Kevin Nash.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I've always had my finger on the pulse
<v Speaker 2>of humanity, you know, in terms of not just entertainment,
<v Speaker 2>but in terms of you know what's hip, you know
<v Speaker 2>what is uh, you know what is the future entail.
<v Speaker 2>I know exactly what the future entails, and I know
<v Speaker 2>what people are gonna want ten years down the line.
<v Speaker 2>That's just been my gift. Now, sometimes I'm personally not
<v Speaker 2>ready to make that kind of a change. Right, keep
<v Speaker 2>your mouth shut. I saw what you were doing over there.
<v Speaker 2>You keep your fucking mouth shut. I will break you
<v Speaker 2>so hard. Yeah, right. I know what the world needs
<v Speaker 2>to survive, but sometimes the world doesn't deserve it. And
<v Speaker 2>sometimes what the world needs, or I should say, what
<v Speaker 2>the world wants, is not exactly what it needs. And
<v Speaker 2>I know what it needs and I provide that, and
<v Speaker 2>I've been doing that since day one.
<v Speaker 1>I guess the question, mister McMahon is what do they need?
<v Speaker 2>What do they need? They need to know that they
<v Speaker 2>are not in control, They need to know that they
<v Speaker 2>are just ponds in the game, my game?
<v Speaker 1>Does it give them comfort to come to terms with
<v Speaker 1>that sooner rather than later events? Is that not part
<v Speaker 1>of why you're sitting here today in the finals and
<v Speaker 1>the tournament.
<v Speaker 2>I think the sooner they come to terms with that,
<v Speaker 2>the easier it is to just live your life and
<v Speaker 2>understand that you get no say at all. So just
<v Speaker 2>do what you got to do. I control it. I'm
<v Speaker 2>letting you know. I'm letting. I'm you know, in a
<v Speaker 2>way to use mister Nasher. I'm booking their finishes, I'm
<v Speaker 2>booking their lives, I'm booking their desires. And I know
<v Speaker 2>the best way to book.
<v Speaker 1>Mister nashes this, gentleman, you're sitting across the the X
<v Speaker 1>Games event center from ever booked your desires?
<v Speaker 2>You know, I gotta say, I gotta be honest with you, man,
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what the fuck you're talking about booking desires. Dude,
<v Speaker 2>you're fucking you know. You're a producer of a fucking
<v Speaker 2>wrestling TV show. That's what you fucking do. You know
<v Speaker 2>my desires? Yeah, you know what, absolutely booked my desires.
<v Speaker 2>I suppose you know. I'm not going to deny that
<v Speaker 2>I got paid, I got money, got time off. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>fucking you know what, I'll tell you this, You definitely
<v Speaker 2>booked my desires. In two thousand and one, you know,
<v Speaker 2>you fucking buy the company and buy w CW and
<v Speaker 2>I get to fucking sit down, fucking paint, read about
<v Speaker 2>Monet and watched indie films for a fucking year collecting cash.
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, you know he knew what I wanted. That's
<v Speaker 2>fucking great. He doesn't know what I'm going to do
<v Speaker 2>to him, though.
<v Speaker 1>This is the first time that you, gentlemen, have had
<v Speaker 1>the opportunity throughout the entirety of the TLFX games to
<v Speaker 1>actually face each other one to one, as opposed to
<v Speaker 1>just sending in prerecorded comments, which of course we have
<v Speaker 1>faithfully relayed to listeners of our tlf X game segments
<v Speaker 1>here on the tlf main feet. But as you're standing here,
<v Speaker 1>mister Nash, looking face to face with your opposition and
<v Speaker 1>getting a chance to really look into his eyes, is
<v Speaker 1>there anything you're noticing, anything you're seeing in his eyes
<v Speaker 1>that kind of pretend where we may be going here
<v Speaker 1>when it comes down to the final winner.
<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you one thing that I've noticed since he
<v Speaker 2>walked in. He's been kind of a little bit on edge.
<v Speaker 2>You know. I heard his other promos. I heard him
<v Speaker 2>talking about being the devil and all that shit. It
<v Speaker 2>does seem like the devil right now. He seemed like
<v Speaker 2>a fucking pussy. You know, he's getting all fucking angry
<v Speaker 2>at everything I say, and I'm here cool as a cucumber. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>just fucking playing it easy, and I'm not getting all
<v Speaker 2>riled up. I'm telling the way it is. I'm laying
<v Speaker 2>out the facts. I don't know what else you fucking need.
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what's making him so nervous. You know,
<v Speaker 2>it's not like I haven't had this fucking you know,
<v Speaker 2>sit down as before in the past. You know, I'm
<v Speaker 2>not nervous. I'm not scared of you. I'm just gonna
<v Speaker 2>beat you.
<v Speaker 1>And conversely, Vince, when you're look into you have a
<v Speaker 1>national size, what do you see?
<v Speaker 2>What do I see? I see an ungrateful drug addict.
<v Speaker 2>That's what I see, an ungrateful man who sits having
<v Speaker 2>his his fucking gummies and shitting and smoking his pot
<v Speaker 2>and whatever and drinking his alcohol. You're fucking calling me
<v Speaker 2>a drug addict, didn't you fucking uh so you fucking
<v Speaker 2>snort cocaine off your desk? Pal? Hey, I maybe I did,
<v Speaker 2>But you know what, I never got hooked. I never
<v Speaker 2>will and I look at him, and I see a
<v Speaker 2>man who never actually achieved what he could have achieved.
<v Speaker 2>I see a man who just assume. I mean, he
<v Speaker 2>admits it right there.
<v Speaker 3>You know.
<v Speaker 2>He'd rather drink his wine, read about money and whatever
<v Speaker 2>the shit he wants to do, watch movies and stuff.
<v Speaker 2>I'm yes, that's the thing people do nowadays. I guess, huh,
<v Speaker 2>they watch movies on television. I don't know. I don't
<v Speaker 2>do that. I don't need to do that. The only
<v Speaker 2>entertainment that I need is what I get on my
<v Speaker 2>weekly television vehicle programming. This gentleman over here, he seems
<v Speaker 2>as cool as a cucumber, and I get it. You
<v Speaker 2>know what, that's his persona, that's his persona. I get
<v Speaker 2>riled up. Yes, I'm a very emotional individual. I don't
<v Speaker 2>sit there and you know, do my my little gummies
<v Speaker 2>and things to keep me calm. I don't need to
<v Speaker 2>keep calm. I keep calm, and people like you take
<v Speaker 2>advantage of me. So that's what I see, And I
<v Speaker 2>see that they're underneath all this, underneath all this this
<v Speaker 2>false cool and collectedness, that's just a scared little boy,
<v Speaker 2>The same scared little boy who went to face Shewan
<v Speaker 2>Michaels and wrestling you eleven who got carried by the
<v Speaker 2>little man. You couldn't have a match like that yourself.
<v Speaker 2>You let your friend take care of you. That's the thing.
<v Speaker 2>You can't do it on your own. You never have
<v Speaker 2>and you're never able to. That's the problem right here,
<v Speaker 2>you and me, Pal, it's one on one. You've got
<v Speaker 2>no one to help you out, and I'm not going
<v Speaker 2>to carry you to greatness.
<v Speaker 1>Before I give a chance to respond, mister Nasha, it
<v Speaker 1>does beg a follow up, I think, mister McMahon, when
<v Speaker 1>you talk about seeing essentially stripped down a naked boy
<v Speaker 1>or a young boy in Kevin Nash, my boy.
<v Speaker 2>There's no naked boys. Okay, no, right, that's not a thing,
<v Speaker 2>never has been a thing. We don't do that in
<v Speaker 2>the w W.
<v Speaker 1>E Well, all right, pardon me. Well when you see
<v Speaker 1>a scared little boy, yes, I do see. Do you
<v Speaker 1>feel especially equipped to identify that in Kevin Nash because
<v Speaker 1>you yourself, as Vinnie Lupton, were a scared young boy once.
<v Speaker 2>So this is what you're gonna do. You're gonna you're
<v Speaker 2>gonna bring up the past. You're gonna bring up my childhood.
<v Speaker 2>Is that you're going to bring up the leaves and
<v Speaker 2>the pussy story. You're going to talk about the possibility
<v Speaker 2>that I was abused by mister Lupton and my mother.
<v Speaker 2>That's what you're gonna do, Gonna get me all riled up.
<v Speaker 2>Do I see a scared little boy myself? No, no, no,
<v Speaker 2>I see perseverance. I see somebody who rows from the ashes,
<v Speaker 2>rose from the ashes of North Carolina, the Ashville of
<v Speaker 2>North Carolina, for that matter. And I came and I dominated.
<v Speaker 2>I destroyed my dad, I destroyed everybody in my bath.
<v Speaker 2>Am I scared? No, no, no, no, no, no no. Because
<v Speaker 2>I have destroyed all my fears along the way. I
<v Speaker 2>don't need to be afraid. There's no point in being afraid,
<v Speaker 2>because what I do know is this, even when I lose, I.
<v Speaker 1>Win, Ister Nash Any response to that, I mean, look,
<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna lie.
<v Speaker 2>You know, guy's done, you know he's done, wonders. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>I don't know about this, fucking you know, you know,
<v Speaker 2>whatever it does with his dad, I don't fucking know
<v Speaker 2>about that. But I'll tell you you know, I don't
<v Speaker 2>know about being scared. I don't know about being a
<v Speaker 2>scared little boy. You know, I don't. You know, man,
<v Speaker 2>I grew up on the fucking the streets of Detroit.
<v Speaker 2>You know, I couldn't be afraid. I fucking woke up.
<v Speaker 2>I came out of the womb tough. I came out
<v Speaker 2>of the womb with a fucking jackknife, all right. I
<v Speaker 2>was ready to fucking attack from then on. Yeah, so
<v Speaker 2>I don't know about this fucking yeah, scared, little boy. Shit,
<v Speaker 2>I ain't scared. I ain't scared of shit. You know what.
<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you what. The other thing I am scared
<v Speaker 2>of is not collecting the payday when I fucking win
<v Speaker 2>this thing. That's what I'm scared of. I don't know
<v Speaker 2>what's gonna happen. Yeah. People always paying big sexy, people
<v Speaker 2>going to know, people always people. You know what, People
<v Speaker 2>always pay big sexy. I didn't pay you anymore. I
<v Speaker 2>don't pay you anymore. I'm not paying Okay.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah whatever, mister Nash, we have seen that he is.
<v Speaker 1>He's very willing to stop paying burn Nda if things
<v Speaker 1>don't go his way, if he perceives that you've stepped
<v Speaker 1>outside the mounds of an agreement.
<v Speaker 2>Hey, you know, I onward agreements. You know I don't
<v Speaker 2>think I've ever Yeah, I think I don't think I've
<v Speaker 2>ever signed an n D A. Yeah. But you know,
<v Speaker 2>whatever it is, man, you know you've got to do
<v Speaker 2>what you got to do. I'm just telling you right now,
<v Speaker 2>it's going to be all over and Big Sex is
<v Speaker 2>going to be on top. King of the cast.
<v Speaker 1>Kevin, you're a sinophile. We've heard absolutely, you know, hold
<v Speaker 1>court extensibly in your podcast and other forua about the
<v Speaker 1>true depth of your knowledge of classic film and cinema.
<v Speaker 1>And I wonder, as you sit here assessing the dynamic
<v Speaker 1>between you and and lapsed Vince in the finals of
<v Speaker 1>the tlf X Games, if it strikes you as reminiscent
<v Speaker 1>of any classic films you've seen. I mean, do you
<v Speaker 1>see a setup here that we might turn to the
<v Speaker 1>magic of Hollywood to help better understand and better Reperence?
<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, I take a look at this, Honest
<v Speaker 2>to god, you know it's it's Citizen Kane. Easy. You
<v Speaker 2>look who Wills? Did you know? I mean? The thing is,
<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you what, it's a one. You know this
<v Speaker 2>is a double sided Citizen Kane Easy. You know you
<v Speaker 2>know Vince's you know he's he is Kane you know,
<v Speaker 2>he's Charles Charles Foster Kane, you know, and he gets
<v Speaker 2>up there, he builds himself up, builds up his empire,
<v Speaker 2>you know, fucking walks all over everybody. But then when
<v Speaker 2>push comes to shove and he gets that big, big campaign,
<v Speaker 2>you know what happens gets taken down. He's taken down
<v Speaker 2>by the other guy. Not The curious thing is we
<v Speaker 2>don't actually get to see the other guy in the
<v Speaker 2>Citizen Kane, you know. And I think, honest to god,
<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's a story that's that's waiting to be told,
<v Speaker 2>you know, called Citizen Nash. Fucking write that story, make
<v Speaker 2>that fucking movie. Yeah, fucking talking about box office receipts.
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, it's definitely a Charles Foster Caine over here.
<v Speaker 1>Just ruc man, I'm not sure if you're familiar with
<v Speaker 1>the film, you know, widely regarded as one of the greatest,
<v Speaker 1>not the greatest films of all time. Would you agree
<v Speaker 1>with that characterization? Are you in fact Charles Foster Kane
<v Speaker 1>in this in this alliance?
<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't. I don't know about what is Charles
<v Speaker 2>Foster individual. I do know Kine obviously a character in
<v Speaker 2>the w WE that I invented, and I think Kine
<v Speaker 2>was a dominant force. So if that's what this is about,
<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure about this, you know, I don't know.
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what what Orson Well is He? Is
<v Speaker 2>he the is he the father of of what Timothy
<v Speaker 2>Well is? That? Is he well done as well? Is
<v Speaker 2>that what? I don't know? I'm I'm not sure what
<v Speaker 2>this Orson individual is all about. What I can tell
<v Speaker 2>you is that Kine, the big red monster dominates, you know,
<v Speaker 2>and look at that. You know, you talk about political campaigns.
<v Speaker 2>Look at look where the big red machine is now.
<v Speaker 2>He is the mayor. You know, he won his campaign.
<v Speaker 2>So if that's the Kine that you're referring to, I'm
<v Speaker 2>all for it. I'm all for winning and dominating like Kain.
<v Speaker 1>I heard it described somewhere mister Nash that that this
<v Speaker 1>battle essentially amounts to power versus indifference. Of course, mister McMahon,
<v Speaker 1>representing the obsession with power, you're representing an obsession with indifference.
<v Speaker 1>What say you to that characterization?
<v Speaker 2>I mean, whatever, Yeah, that's I don't know. I mean,
<v Speaker 2>that's that's a fair assessment, I guess. I mean, I
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't necessarily say that, I would say, you know, maybe
<v Speaker 2>it's power against economic intelligence. Yeah. I mean, don't think
<v Speaker 2>I'm walking away from this either way without getting getting
<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm working. It's a ten ninety nine job. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>I'm not fucking getting called in. You know, I'll do
<v Speaker 2>my dates, I'll do my time, I'll do I'll have
<v Speaker 2>this one on one session. But you know he ain't.
<v Speaker 2>He ain't paying my taxes, so fuck it. That's what
<v Speaker 2>I think it is. I'd definitely call it that power
<v Speaker 2>versus economic intelligence.
<v Speaker 1>I haven't heard you say, let me get this straight
<v Speaker 1>at all yet, Kevin. Are you feeling all right?
<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm feeling pretty good. I mean, honest to god,
<v Speaker 2>I haven't heard anything that needs to be getting straight.
<v Speaker 1>So got it?
<v Speaker 2>Fair enough?
<v Speaker 1>Mister mc mahon, would you agree that this is in
<v Speaker 1>fact power versus indifference?
<v Speaker 2>I would say it's it's really it's the classic, the
<v Speaker 2>classic tale of really it's David and Goliath in many ways.
<v Speaker 2>That's what I would see it as, power versus indifference.
<v Speaker 2>Maybe I don't know.
<v Speaker 1>I definitely say, now you're you're Goliath in this case, right.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, and Goliath is going to win. Goliath always wins.
<v Speaker 2>See whatever is written in the Bible, it's not accurate.
<v Speaker 2>It's not true. What all right? You know what, mooney,
<v Speaker 2>you want it? Let me get this straight. You're saying
<v Speaker 2>that what they fucking wrote in the Bible is is
<v Speaker 2>not real? Like what what are you saying? Exactly? I'm saying,
<v Speaker 2>big keV, that the Bible is inaccurate. Okay, the Bible
<v Speaker 2>is not the real story. All right, it's a k
<v Speaker 2>fabe you know text. You know it's a k fabe text. Yes,
<v Speaker 2>the Bible is a k fabe text. I have evidence
<v Speaker 2>of that. Not well, I want to fucking see that. No, no, no, no, no, no, no,
<v Speaker 2>no not now, not now. What I am going to
<v Speaker 2>say is this is that I have the original Biblical text,
<v Speaker 2>and I can tell you right now, Goliath goes over
<v Speaker 2>Thelith always goes over.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, As mc man, you've pushed You've pushed many Goliaths
<v Speaker 1>in your career as Helm of the World Wrestling Federation,
<v Speaker 1>and every now and then you've pulled a few David's
<v Speaker 1>up to the forefront. Yes, you mentioned Sean Michaels, You
<v Speaker 1>mentioned perhaps the undersized Brian Danielson and some others bread
<v Speaker 1>the hitman heart as you look at Kevin Nash and
<v Speaker 1>what you saw in him at the time you made
<v Speaker 1>him WAF champion in nineteen ninety four. What do you
<v Speaker 1>see now compared to what you saw then?
<v Speaker 2>What do I see now? I see? I will say,
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't mind paying a compliment to the gentleman.
<v Speaker 2>I mean I see someone who was able to to
<v Speaker 2>kind of you know, he talks about how well he
<v Speaker 2>is with navigation, and he certainly navigated a very very
<v Speaker 2>interesting career that benefited him very much. So I see
<v Speaker 2>someone who has certainly matured since his time as the
<v Speaker 2>as the w champion. I see someone although ironically I
<v Speaker 2>feel like while he has matured in some ways, he
<v Speaker 2>also has he doesn't work nearly as hard as he
<v Speaker 2>used to, and he didn't work hard to begin with. Yeah, again,
<v Speaker 2>you know, I don't know, you're not You're not wrong,
<v Speaker 2>But I still I had a fucking long career and
<v Speaker 2>I made a lot of money. So who wins in
<v Speaker 2>that I didn't have to work hard to win. But
<v Speaker 2>you say yes, but you then stop your own potential
<v Speaker 2>dead flat, I guess, but I'm fucking doing great. Well,
<v Speaker 2>you're doing great, but you're so because you're doing what
<v Speaker 2>little uh uh, stupid fucking what. I don't even know
<v Speaker 2>if they can call them independent films. Well, I mean
<v Speaker 2>they're independent films and not backed by major studio. It's
<v Speaker 2>not like you know, Warner Brothers is uh is back
<v Speaker 2>in any of the you know the manner or or
<v Speaker 2>a uh do you do you even the manner? The
<v Speaker 2>manner and what the manner of? What the manner in
<v Speaker 2>the way that you're you're acting right now? No, it's
<v Speaker 2>called the fucking manner. You know.
<v Speaker 1>It's a great fucking horror movie intense. Have you seen
<v Speaker 1>Almighty Thor by any chance to this point?
<v Speaker 2>Well? Was that is Almighty? Who?
<v Speaker 1>The Almighty Thor movie that I'm mister Nash.
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. The last movie that I saw was
<v Speaker 2>it was uh yeah, it was a spy movie with
<v Speaker 2>Owen Wilson and and uh I think it was Jackie
<v Speaker 2>chan I don't remember the name, but I saw that
<v Speaker 2>one somewhere somewhere somehow. Yeah, okay, great, So again, I
<v Speaker 2>don't I don't see what you know you're talking about,
<v Speaker 2>you know, living up to your potential? You know, That's
<v Speaker 2>That's what I'm I'm gathering here, is that you're saying
<v Speaker 2>I didn't live up to your potential, and I'm I'm
<v Speaker 2>doing fucking great. I'm fucking fine with the way that
<v Speaker 2>I am. Yeah. See that's see. Yes, I will say
<v Speaker 2>indifference right there, indifference because he is he is now
<v Speaker 2>just accepting what he has. He's not trying for more. Uh,
<v Speaker 2>that's yeah, that's fucking accurate. I don't. I don't need more.
<v Speaker 2>I'm fucking fine where I am. See. See, this is
<v Speaker 2>why I'm going to beat your ass because I always
<v Speaker 2>want more. I always want more, and I'm always going
<v Speaker 2>to get more, whether it's money, whether it's whether it's
<v Speaker 2>whether it's talent, whether it's pussy. I'm going to get
<v Speaker 2>more here. You get that right. I will say, you know,
<v Speaker 2>he's gonna get more pussy, that's for sure, and then
<v Speaker 2>they'll be behind bars. Ah, I do get pussy at bars. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>he's fan Wrestling podcast with Jack and.
<v Speaker 1>Wrestling Podcast. I just quickly, I need to interject and
<v Speaker 1>say that we did assure mister McMahon did in exchange
<v Speaker 1>for his appearance here today in the tlf X Games
<v Speaker 1>event Center, we agreed not to bring up his pending
<v Speaker 1>legal issues. However, of course, as you anstie. Now to McMahon,
<v Speaker 1>we cannot prevent you know, your opposition from bringing it up,
<v Speaker 1>as he makes you fit.
<v Speaker 2>I don't have any legal issues. There's nothing to bring up.
<v Speaker 2>Oh really, No, here's the thing about that too, you
<v Speaker 2>want to fucking talk about. I'm glad you brought that up,
<v Speaker 2>because you know you really want a King of the cast,
<v Speaker 2>a guy who's fucking paying people off to keep their
<v Speaker 2>mouth shut. You know, a guy who fucking listen, I've
<v Speaker 2>read the I read the whole fucking thing. Man, I'll
<v Speaker 2>tell you you're you're in some deep ship aware of anything
<v Speaker 2>that you're referring to. I have not done anything wrong. Well,
<v Speaker 2>I guess that's for the course to decide, not going
<v Speaker 2>to court. I am innocent of all things.
<v Speaker 1>Well, it's interesting that you say that vance not to
<v Speaker 1>go down that road, as we agreed not to. However,
<v Speaker 1>do you feel like the next several days and how
<v Speaker 1>this vote goes on November fifth will indeed determine how
<v Speaker 1>much you have to worry about in any particular legal arena.
<v Speaker 1>Is that still sort of up up to be decided.
<v Speaker 2>I believe that. I believe that as the King of
<v Speaker 2>the cast when I am voted and elected King of
<v Speaker 2>the cast that I will be all cleared of any
<v Speaker 2>sort of controversy in the past, present, or future.
<v Speaker 1>So you see this really as vindication. You see this
<v Speaker 1>as a referendum on how really the populace feels about
<v Speaker 1>you after all of the headlines you've gone through.
<v Speaker 2>I think if they continue to vote for me, yes,
<v Speaker 2>I mean, let's be honest here, you want to look
<v Speaker 2>back at and how and how I've gone through in
<v Speaker 2>this whole thing, I have not had a single challenge,
<v Speaker 2>not one. I have destroyed every single opponent that I had.
<v Speaker 2>I destroyed my best friend, I destroyed Steve Austin, I
<v Speaker 2>destroyed Hulkogan, and I decimated Helen Hard.
<v Speaker 1>Why, mister Das, We've heard that, mister Nash, We've heard
<v Speaker 1>that talked about as much shit, a lighter slate, that
<v Speaker 1>mister McMahon had overcome much steeper obstacles than you had
<v Speaker 1>to just you know, based on the pure draw of
<v Speaker 1>the bracket to get here. Any response to.
<v Speaker 2>That, I mean, look, I didn't make the fucking brackets.
<v Speaker 2>You know, I didn't book the fucking tournament. You know
<v Speaker 2>I didn't say you know that, what you know I
<v Speaker 2>faced Fritz van Erik or whatever. You know. I didn't
<v Speaker 2>fucking make the decision, you know, I was entered in
<v Speaker 2>the fucking thing, and then I just did do what
<v Speaker 2>I do. I don't think it's any fucking all. I
<v Speaker 2>don't know if it's a light or not, you know,
<v Speaker 2>but I fucking you know, certainly I saw the numbers
<v Speaker 2>of the last one, you know, taking on Jesse the body,
<v Speaker 2>and it wasn't a fucking I'll admit. It wasn't in
<v Speaker 2>a cake walk. It was a struggle. Gentlemen.
<v Speaker 1>It's really remarkable that we've come to this particular discussion point,
<v Speaker 1>at this juncture in our discussion here today because what
<v Speaker 1>we've arranged to do and for the sake of the listener,
<v Speaker 1>the participants here, our final two contenders have not been
<v Speaker 1>made aware that this is coming. So you're truly going
<v Speaker 1>to get organic responses to the oncoming series of messages
<v Speaker 1>in the spirit of the Tlfxchemes event center that we've
<v Speaker 1>known all these weeks during the King of the Cast tournament,
<v Speaker 1>we have solicited prerecorded comments from the many competitors that
<v Speaker 1>mister Kevin Nash and mister Vince McMahon have defeated to
<v Speaker 1>get here, and we're going to ask for each individual
<v Speaker 1>to provide a brief response to these brief remarks on
<v Speaker 1>just how the individuals at mister Nash and mister McMahon
<v Speaker 1>defeated to get here feel about being toppled by sid
<v Speaker 1>competitor and what it is that they think is going
<v Speaker 1>to be the deciding factor between Nash and Vince in
<v Speaker 1>the finals of the TLFX Games tournament. Mister McMahon has
<v Speaker 1>already outlined everybody that he has vaulted to get here. First,
<v Speaker 1>we're going to start with remarks received from his former
<v Speaker 1>right hand man, the late Pat Patterson. What's up, Boss,
<v Speaker 1>I've been watching with great interest and really, you know,
<v Speaker 1>a great sense of reliefs since you defeated me into
<v Speaker 1>first rounds of the tournament, to really see you do
<v Speaker 1>so well and win such a strong rough erendum of support.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, we all know how much false accusations can
<v Speaker 1>sting and chase us around, and you know, I have
<v Speaker 1>a lot of feeling about it, but I suffice to say,
<v Speaker 1>being from montreala as I am, I really feel it's
<v Speaker 1>significant that you've been able to beat the cloud the
<v Speaker 1>clouds that has been hanging over your head all of
<v Speaker 1>this time, and I just want to say Boss that
<v Speaker 1>I think you're going to do well. I think you're
<v Speaker 1>going to defeat Kevin Nash, and I think it's going
<v Speaker 1>to be a great day for what we had together.
<v Speaker 1>And I know you remember it as fondly as I
<v Speaker 1>do know that. In fact, I'm up here waiting for
<v Speaker 1>you when you get here. So, mister Nash, we tried
<v Speaker 1>with you. It didn't work out, and I think you're
<v Speaker 1>going to find out just why coming up here in
<v Speaker 1>the finals of the tournament. And Vince, please try to
<v Speaker 1>protect my reputation. I understand some of the stuff's coming
<v Speaker 1>up again and I don't really appreciate it. So that's
<v Speaker 1>all from here, and best of luck to you in
<v Speaker 1>the tournaments. That should make me in any response to that, well,
<v Speaker 1>I mean think that's a very I think that's exactly Listen.
<v Speaker 1>That's why, that's why Patterson is Patterson. He understood that
<v Speaker 1>he was less than he understood that he had no chance,
<v Speaker 1>but he stands by that's loyalty, and I think that
<v Speaker 1>is exactly I think he makes it very good points.
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I want to see him anytime soon,
<v Speaker 1>but I will say he's correct in the fact that
<v Speaker 1>I will destroy Kevin Nash. Mister Nash will flip it
<v Speaker 1>to you some words, who received from your first round opponent,
<v Speaker 1>who you were able to defeat rather handily in the
<v Speaker 1>TLFX Games tournament, to the surprise of many, one of
<v Speaker 1>the more resounding characters in the history of the tlf
<v Speaker 1>history TLFX history, it is none other than lapsed Fritz
<v Speaker 1>fan Eric. We'll hear from him now.
<v Speaker 2>All right, here's a damn thing. Now, the fact fact
<v Speaker 2>that I got beat in the first round. I understand
<v Speaker 2>that that's the way that it is. And you know what,
<v Speaker 2>It's fine, It's absolutely fine because you know what I
<v Speaker 2>can tell you right now, I live through eight tournaments
<v Speaker 2>in that one, eight whole tournaments in that one. So
<v Speaker 2>you know what, mister Nash, you know you took it
<v Speaker 2>to me. You gave me everything you had. I gave
<v Speaker 2>you everything I had, and you still came out on top.
<v Speaker 2>I respect that, and I'll tell you what. Given what
<v Speaker 2>mister McMahon is under my family, I'm fine if you
<v Speaker 2>kick his ass, But then after that, I'm gonna still
<v Speaker 2>come for you and hunt you and haunt you for
<v Speaker 2>the rest of your days.
<v Speaker 1>Mister Nash In response to that.
<v Speaker 2>Uh, thanks, I guess I mean, you know, I don't well,
<v Speaker 2>I didn't think I had a problem with the von Erics,
<v Speaker 2>but I guess I do. But either way, I mean,
<v Speaker 2>he made a good point right there, you know. I mean,
<v Speaker 2>you know, that's the thing about it, you know, in
<v Speaker 2>a weird way, it's got nothing to do with you know,
<v Speaker 2>whether I am better or you know, whatever it is.
<v Speaker 2>You know, it doesn't matter what the qualifications are. The
<v Speaker 2>bottom line is there are guys like Fritz who just
<v Speaker 2>want to see fucking Vince McMahon fail. You know, it
<v Speaker 2>doesn't matter who it is on the other side. I
<v Speaker 2>just want to see him fail. And you know, when
<v Speaker 2>I think that, there's a lot of people are going
<v Speaker 2>to do that, are going to vote like that. I'm
<v Speaker 2>not saying it's right or not, but yeah, that's the
<v Speaker 2>way it is.
<v Speaker 1>And I forgot to ask. I failed to ask any
<v Speaker 1>any comments from your side on the remarks we heard
<v Speaker 1>from mister McMahon's former.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, right, I expected nothing less. You know, it's Patterson.
<v Speaker 2>You know he's gonna he's not ever going to take
<v Speaker 2>my side over Vince's.
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, whatever, and Vince, any thoughts on what Fritz
<v Speaker 1>van Eric had to say towards collapsed Kevin Nash.
<v Speaker 2>I don't. I don't know where Fritz Vanmeric is and
<v Speaker 2>never seen them before, and I will not ever acknowledge
<v Speaker 2>its existence.
<v Speaker 1>Moving now to another luminary in the world of sports entertainment,
<v Speaker 1>We're Wrestling Federation that you were able to defeat to
<v Speaker 1>get to the finals. Here none other and perhaps your
<v Speaker 1>biggest box office attraction ever Stone called Steve Austin way
<v Speaker 1>In with these comments to the X games of Vincenter.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm sitting here at the house and uh,
<v Speaker 1>it's been toughcor a podcast. Pull my hand out in
<v Speaker 1>front of me as I'm talking, trying to gesture to
<v Speaker 1>make clear a damn point. I'm here at the house,
<v Speaker 1>snacks in the mail, Burger's on the grill, cat in
<v Speaker 1>the barn, and Vince, I just got to say, you
<v Speaker 1>remain the biggest piece of trash I've ever run across.
<v Speaker 1>In ten years of this podcast, We've had our battles,
<v Speaker 1>ups and downs, left and rights twenty four, by twenty
<v Speaker 1>thirty six, by eighty eighty, by one hundred and forty.
<v Speaker 1>We're talking ATVs on the ranch. We're talking flip flops
<v Speaker 1>and Marina del Rey and we're talking clear and brush
<v Speaker 1>outside of Victoria, Texas. You're a piece of shit, but
<v Speaker 1>you beat me. And I suppose that's going to be
<v Speaker 1>the story of my life. The story of Kevin Nash's life,
<v Speaker 1>I think remains to be seen. He's a buddy, Kevin.
<v Speaker 1>I just got to tell you, son, I'm not sure
<v Speaker 1>how you get around this mad man. I've tried my
<v Speaker 1>whole life to get out from another shadow of this guy.
<v Speaker 1>I've tried my whole life to get a sign the
<v Speaker 1>full slice of credit I deserve for Light Night Company Fire,
<v Speaker 1>what all said and done? It seems in it and
<v Speaker 1>all anyone really gives a shit about is this guy
<v Speaker 1>and his inner monologue in his inner psychosis. Where's my
<v Speaker 1>six piece Netflix documentary sign? The only body he wants
<v Speaker 1>to do a documentary about? Stone Cold Steve Austin is
<v Speaker 1>a company that he owns, produces, and makes the money
<v Speaker 1>off of. It's a tough and sober in reality. We've
<v Speaker 1>tried to walk that Hollywood line, Kevin. But just be careful,
<v Speaker 1>is all I can say. That's the bottom line, mister Nash.
<v Speaker 2>Uh. I mean, yeah, you know, Steve, he's a fucking
<v Speaker 2>good buddy. You know, go way back, you know, back
<v Speaker 2>to like first WCW Run and everything. But I get it.
<v Speaker 2>I get where he's coming from. You know, here's the thing,
<v Speaker 2>this is what you got to think about, all right.
<v Speaker 2>You look at all these guys. You look at you
<v Speaker 2>look at the relationship that they had with Bence McMahon.
<v Speaker 2>You know, you look at the fact that Austin went
<v Speaker 2>one on one with him. You know, we kind of
<v Speaker 2>you gotta know how that fucking turns out. You know,
<v Speaker 2>never seen Nash go one on one pin sick man.
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I got a better feeling.
<v Speaker 1>Has any thoughts on that?
<v Speaker 2>Yes, you know, I don't need to go one on
<v Speaker 2>one with everybody. I go one on one with the
<v Speaker 2>one as that matter. And I destroyed Steve Austin because
<v Speaker 2>you know why, not only did I do it in
<v Speaker 2>this in this environment, in these tear left X games,
<v Speaker 2>but I also did it in real life because I
<v Speaker 2>proved that I could succeed and exist without stone called
<v Speaker 2>Steve Austin. That's where the truth lies. And anyone who
<v Speaker 2>does that wins the war. And I always win the
<v Speaker 2>war because I always survive. You cannot take me down.
<v Speaker 2>You will not take me down. I will not allow it.
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, that's how I feel.
<v Speaker 1>Mister Nash. Of course, your next round opponent in the
<v Speaker 1>X Games after defeating Fritz fan Eric, who we've heard
<v Speaker 1>from already, this lapsed Lanny Pofo. Now to some comments
<v Speaker 1>we've received from the former genius.
<v Speaker 2>I would like to read a poem Roses are red,
<v Speaker 2>Violets are blue. Nash made it to the finals, to
<v Speaker 2>which I say, fuck you, mister Nash. Uh so, let
<v Speaker 2>me get this straight. So he he just he did
<v Speaker 2>a fucking poem. I said. You know, I didn't say shit. Fine,
<v Speaker 2>you know I don't. Uh, Okay, I guess he's got
<v Speaker 2>some you know, there's some fucking sour grapes in there.
<v Speaker 2>So sorry, Lanny, you know, have fun watching TV. On
<v Speaker 2>the ceiling.
<v Speaker 1>We received these words from the next participant in the
<v Speaker 1>X Games that you defeated, mister McMahon, your longtime in
<v Speaker 1>ring can sigle arey. I guess we could say the
<v Speaker 1>first superstar that you rode to fame and fortune, Hulk Hogan.
<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, brother, I gotta I'm telling you, dude,
<v Speaker 2>you at least two off X games. Brother, they're kind
<v Speaker 2>of like they're kind of reaching our next level right now, dude.
<v Speaker 2>You know, I think we got to comment ale this
<v Speaker 2>thing back in, brother, get the thing back on track, dude,
<v Speaker 2>because I'm I'll tell you what, Dude, I'm a little
<v Speaker 2>nervous brother at the idea of fistic Man and Kevin
<v Speaker 2>Nash because I know both men inside and now, Brother,
<v Speaker 2>and what do you I thought, did you hear I
<v Speaker 2>thought I heard something? All right. I'll tell you the
<v Speaker 2>thing is, this man's a fucking survivor. Man. That's the
<v Speaker 2>bottom line about him, dude. He is a fucking survivor Nash. Dude, Nash.
<v Speaker 2>I don't dude, I'm to tell you right now, Brother,
<v Speaker 2>I'm not trying to to say this, and this is
<v Speaker 2>going to come out really bad, brother, But he's a weasel.
<v Speaker 2>But he's a weasel. He knows how to get shit
<v Speaker 2>done behind people's back. And you know how it makes
<v Speaker 2>me feel, brother, that shit happens behind my back. What
<v Speaker 2>I just say, I don't know, Brother, I'm kind of
<v Speaker 2>at a loss for this, dude. I don't know. I
<v Speaker 2>gotta say I respect both of them, Brother, I hate
<v Speaker 2>both of them, dude, but I also love them brother.
<v Speaker 2>So it's a dynamic dude.
<v Speaker 1>It's a dynamic dude vents any common.
<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean it's Terry. I uh. You know the
<v Speaker 2>thing about Terry is that again, you look at it
<v Speaker 2>like this, you have to understand something. I was going
<v Speaker 2>to succeed no matter what. I was going to destroy competition,
<v Speaker 2>no matter what. What I needed was a vessel, all right,
<v Speaker 2>didn't matter what the vessel was. Just happened to me.
<v Speaker 2>Old Cogan turned to be the best vessel possible because
<v Speaker 2>of what Terry brought to the table. But he's still
<v Speaker 2>just a vessel, and he still wasn't vincitive. Man. Now,
<v Speaker 2>as for Kevin Nash being a weasel, I agree, I'm
<v Speaker 2>not surprise there. Yeah, no surprise. You are a weasel.
<v Speaker 2>You find a way to get things you don't deserve,
<v Speaker 2>that you haven't earned. See a lot of people say
<v Speaker 2>that about me. That's fair. Maybe I haven't earned them,
<v Speaker 2>but you know what, in a way, I always earn
<v Speaker 2>it because if I destroy things, then I've earned it.
<v Speaker 2>So I look forward to winning.
<v Speaker 1>So if okay, well we're going to move to the
<v Speaker 1>next participant. That Kevin Nash was able to unseat and
<v Speaker 1>route to the semi finals off the King of the
<v Speaker 1>cast torn were here now comments from lapsed Bulldog.
<v Speaker 3>H what?
<v Speaker 2>Whooh?
<v Speaker 3>Wallien?
<v Speaker 2>When? Oh what? I don't understand? What are you all
<v Speaker 2>you saying?
<v Speaker 3>When was I in a tournament? When did it happen?
<v Speaker 2>Did it happen?
<v Speaker 3>I don't I've been smoking crack for three months straight
<v Speaker 3>in my home and Manchester, Leeds, London, England. I don't
<v Speaker 3>remember being in a tournament. I don't know who Nash is.
<v Speaker 3>I think I need to take a nap. I don't.
<v Speaker 3>I just I just want I just want more crack.
<v Speaker 1>As you can imagine, mister Nash, it kind of goes
<v Speaker 1>on and on like that for a while. We try
<v Speaker 1>to ask him to keep it to thirty seconds. That's something.
<v Speaker 1>The substance of what he said. Any response to that.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, look, you know Bulldog. You know I may
<v Speaker 2>have vented a couple of times. I fucking dig Bulldog.
<v Speaker 2>You know you have no problem with him, You have
<v Speaker 2>no beef with him. It's uh yeah, you know, I mean,
<v Speaker 2>what's to say? I beat him? You know, some first
<v Speaker 2>time I beat him, But I beat Bulldog and you
<v Speaker 2>know he's a decent guy, you know, all things considered,
<v Speaker 2>he's a decent guy. All right. You know how decent
<v Speaker 2>he is. He is the most unreliable motherfucker there ever was.
<v Speaker 2>All Right, Look, I got no beef with the guy,
<v Speaker 2>all right, I faced him. You didn't fucking face him.
<v Speaker 2>I would have wiped his ass. Yeah, I'm sure you
<v Speaker 2>would have wiped his ass. Actually, I have no doubt
<v Speaker 2>about that. You like you like asses, That's what I've
<v Speaker 2>seen on the television. You know, you like people sticking
<v Speaker 2>their fucking face in your ass? Is that right? As
<v Speaker 2>a matter of fact, I do like that, and I
<v Speaker 2>see no problem with that. And it's actually something that
<v Speaker 2>you know, the way that you said that is intended
<v Speaker 2>as an insult, but I don't take it as an insult.
<v Speaker 2>I take it as a compliment that, yes, I do
<v Speaker 2>enjoy the feeling of someone's face up my ass.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Well, it's not too far removed from the same
<v Speaker 1>tribe that lapsed British Bulldog comes from in the wrestling,
<v Speaker 1>in the wrestling world, the wrestling community. It's back to Harthouse, Galgary, Alberta, Canada.
<v Speaker 1>We come to the semi finals here of the TLFX
<v Speaker 1>Games and the competitors that you two were able to
<v Speaker 1>defeat to face off here in our final battle for you,
<v Speaker 1>mister McMahon. Of course, it was lapsed Helen Hart, who
<v Speaker 1>we reached out to of the following comments.
<v Speaker 2>You know, fuck you, fuck you all if I don't
<v Speaker 2>want to say anything, all right, I didn't want to
<v Speaker 2>be in this fucking thing to begin with. I didn't
<v Speaker 2>want to do it. And then you fucking have him.
<v Speaker 2>You know, I'll tell you something here, all right. I
<v Speaker 2>was screwed. I was screwed by Vince McMahon, and not
<v Speaker 2>in the way that you think and your dirty motherfucker
<v Speaker 2>is all right. I was screwed because I was not.
<v Speaker 2>I was taken advantage of, just like I'm taking advantage
<v Speaker 2>of by my family, my husband, everybody. You know what
<v Speaker 2>I don't. I don't care for Kevin Nash Eva. He's
<v Speaker 2>a fucking prick, but you know what, he's the lesser
<v Speaker 2>of two evils. Go Nash. I'm on team Nash. Fuck
<v Speaker 2>you all. Wow.
<v Speaker 1>A strong and clear endorsement there from laps Tail and
<v Speaker 1>Heart Vince. Any reaction to.
<v Speaker 2>That, I'm I mean, does it surprise me? No? I
<v Speaker 2>mean she I whipped her ass, so I imagine that
<v Speaker 2>nobody like her, given that I, you know, she was
<v Speaker 2>the last remaining member of the Heart family who I
<v Speaker 2>had not destroyed, and I did, so I can understand
<v Speaker 2>that she would be better, especially this soon after her defeated.
<v Speaker 2>So it's fine, go ahead. I don't think her endorsement
<v Speaker 2>really counts for anything, because she was probably drunk while
<v Speaker 2>she was making it.
<v Speaker 1>And while we've tried to keep you know, sort of
<v Speaker 1>an equal time sent himent alive here and tried to
<v Speaker 1>reach out to the participants that both of you defeated
<v Speaker 1>in your respective path here at the TLFX Games finals,
<v Speaker 1>with the idea being that they would come after you
<v Speaker 1>both an equal measure, holding the deepest grudge against you know,
<v Speaker 1>either one of you, for having faced you on the
<v Speaker 1>way here. We didn't expect what we heard from the
<v Speaker 1>final of our video testimonials here lapsed jesse Ventura, who
<v Speaker 1>we reached out to. Of course, mister Nashe having defeated
<v Speaker 1>jesse Ventura to get to the finals here and after
<v Speaker 1>a bit of a primary season, I guess you could say,
<v Speaker 1>I guess you could say that you made the ballot,
<v Speaker 1>and mister Ventura did not. And what was surprising, just
<v Speaker 1>to forewarn both of you, is that lapse. Jesse had
<v Speaker 1>as much to say about you, mister McMahon, even though
<v Speaker 1>you were not the party that defeated him, to put
<v Speaker 1>us here where we are today, as he had to
<v Speaker 1>say about laps Nash, and in fact, had as much
<v Speaker 1>to say about the state of our democracy and the
<v Speaker 1>state of a structure even like this to determine who
<v Speaker 1>will be determined king forever more here in November fifth,
<v Speaker 1>so we're going out to Jesse Ventura.
<v Speaker 2>Hey, it's election season once again in the United States
<v Speaker 2>of America. And you know what, we got two elections
<v Speaker 2>going on, and right now we've got this King of
<v Speaker 2>the cast. Hey, I got to say this about Kevin
<v Speaker 2>Nash right off the bat. You know, he took it
<v Speaker 2>to me. I have to say, and I had a
<v Speaker 2>lot of my people, a lot of my people. We
<v Speaker 2>did a recount number of times, fair, you know, unbiased
<v Speaker 2>recount of the votes, and you know what, every time
<v Speaker 2>it came back one hundred percent, Kevin Nash. I got
<v Speaker 2>to say, I appreciate the honor in that I appreciate
<v Speaker 2>the fact that Nash. You know, even though he's not
<v Speaker 2>a third party. You know, I appreciate the fact that
<v Speaker 2>he came at me fair. He allowed me into his
<v Speaker 2>debate and I didn't win, and that happens. That happens
<v Speaker 2>in a fair election. And you know, so I handed
<v Speaker 2>to Kevin Nash and I applaud him. But you know,
<v Speaker 2>I'm not surprised. You know, it doesn't surprise me one
<v Speaker 2>bit that Vin stick Man is in the finals with him.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I knew from the beginning that Vin strick
<v Speaker 2>Man was going to go all the way. I have
<v Speaker 2>no doubt that he you know that he fed the
<v Speaker 2>pot a little bit, you know, kind of kept things,
<v Speaker 2>you know, bribed a few people, you know, said hey,
<v Speaker 2>why don't you vote for me? Why don't you vote
<v Speaker 2>for this? And that help me get to the finals.
<v Speaker 2>That's how he always works. You know. He and I
<v Speaker 2>had had a spat back in the day about about
<v Speaker 2>having a form in a union. You know, he stills
<v Speaker 2>against unions. You know, that's not how this country works.
<v Speaker 2>This country works because it's a union because you know,
<v Speaker 2>together together, we fight, together, we stand. If we divide,
<v Speaker 2>we fall. Vin strick Man's been a lone wolf since
<v Speaker 2>I I've known him. And you know what, I don't
<v Speaker 2>think he's going to win. I think Kevin Nash has
<v Speaker 2>what it takes to beat Vince mc mannon because when
<v Speaker 2>it comes down to it, the American people will not
<v Speaker 2>be denied. They will never be denied, all Right. I
<v Speaker 2>believe in patriotism. I believe in being a patriot, even
<v Speaker 2>though I live in Mexico and I like Enchilada's you know,
<v Speaker 2>I believe that patriotism can be alive wherever you are.
<v Speaker 2>And once again, here we have a battle between two superpowers,
<v Speaker 2>Vince mric mann and Kevin Nash. And I'll tell you here,
<v Speaker 2>I don't think vincemick Man can take it from Kevin Nash.
<v Speaker 2>I believe the dishonesty, I believe all of the deceit,
<v Speaker 2>the bribery, all the behavior problems that we see in
<v Speaker 2>Vince pick mannon. I don't think they can get past
<v Speaker 2>Kevin Nash. I think Kevin Nash, no matter what you
<v Speaker 2>think of him, no matter what he's did to WCW,
<v Speaker 2>I believe he has the best possible campaign. And that's
<v Speaker 2>what's going to happen. He is going to prove himself
<v Speaker 2>once again to be king of the cast and I'm
<v Speaker 2>going to sit here laughing at Vince stick mannon because
<v Speaker 2>I believe in democracy, I believe in what's fair. I
<v Speaker 2>believe chocolate doesn't do me very good anymore. It's a shame,
<v Speaker 2>it's a detriment. But I do believe that this is
<v Speaker 2>going to be the end of Vin stick.
<v Speaker 1>Mahn, a long rain and perhaps a return to the
<v Speaker 1>throne in the offing for what Vince McMahon, who sat
<v Speaker 1>for a finite period of time, but for a powerful
<v Speaker 1>period of time in the pole position, running everything, telling
<v Speaker 1>everyone what to do. He had access to the wheel
<v Speaker 1>of power, and according to laps Jesse, he won't get
<v Speaker 1>it back this election season. A lot directed towards you there,
<v Speaker 1>mister McMahon, A lot of complimentary remarks about your opponent.
<v Speaker 1>So I wish you'd render your opinion on what you
<v Speaker 1>just heard from the former governor.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, here's the thing. I mean, he
<v Speaker 2>is a conspiracy theorist. He believes that you know that
<v Speaker 2>there's all this dirt happening all over the place. I
<v Speaker 2>don't know. I don't have anything to say to that.
<v Speaker 2>I don't believe in conspiracy. I've never conspired against anybody.
<v Speaker 2>I don't believe that it is a thing, and I
<v Speaker 2>certainly never did it in a way to harm somebody.
<v Speaker 2>Maybe we conspired as a rib or something, but never
<v Speaker 2>in the way that he's you know that he believes,
<v Speaker 2>he believes in all the dark secrets of the you know,
<v Speaker 2>the cabal and the Illuminati and all that shit. You know,
<v Speaker 2>he writes his books and you know, tells people things
<v Speaker 2>that I don't know. Did I win fair and square? Yes,
<v Speaker 2>I did, as far as I'm aware, I did not
<v Speaker 2>personally rig anything. I don't know if Patterson did. I
<v Speaker 2>don't know if anybody else did anything on my behalf.
<v Speaker 2>And from what I'm aware of, this was a fair
<v Speaker 2>and square deal. And I think, I think the what
<v Speaker 2>it comes down to is the fact that no matter
<v Speaker 2>who wins here, I'm going to win. If I win,
<v Speaker 2>I win, If Nash wins, I win. It's that simple.
<v Speaker 2>I don't there's no there should be no confusion out
<v Speaker 2>of that. That's why I've won all the way I win.
<v Speaker 1>Mister mcdan, I feel obliged at this point to ask,
<v Speaker 1>I think a question that's in everyone's mind, a particularly
<v Speaker 1>pregnant question.
<v Speaker 2>And nobody's pregnant I've never gotten a woman pregnant before.
<v Speaker 1>Certainly wasn't suggesting that. But if last Kevin Nash does prevail,
<v Speaker 1>yes and his crowd the King of the Cast, are
<v Speaker 1>you willing to accept the results of the election.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, the results will say that I win. So
<v Speaker 2>I don't see what. Like I said, if I win,
<v Speaker 2>I win, If Nash wins, I win, I'm still going
<v Speaker 2>to be king.
<v Speaker 1>In a cast, no matter what I think. For sake
<v Speaker 1>of clarity, we should say, if Kevin Nash receives more
<v Speaker 1>votes on tlf's execut than you do in the finals
<v Speaker 1>of the King of the Cast EYT time we close
<v Speaker 1>the polls on elect day Tuesday, November fifth, are you
<v Speaker 1>willing to accept that the one of the two of
<v Speaker 1>you that gets the more votes is the winner.
<v Speaker 2>If Nash gets more votes, I will be King of
<v Speaker 2>the Cast. And if I get more votes I get,
<v Speaker 2>I'm king of the Cast. I don't see. It's very
<v Speaker 2>simple scenario. I will be on the throne.
<v Speaker 1>Mister Nash. Can you help me at all here?
<v Speaker 2>Man?
<v Speaker 1>Maybe I'm not getting through to him, but he's saying
<v Speaker 1>that if you think.
<v Speaker 2>Getting through to him, But what are you going to say?
<v Speaker 2>What do you need to ask me?
<v Speaker 1>Well, I was gonna ask you. I mean, if if
<v Speaker 1>he he's saying, if you get more votes than he does,
<v Speaker 1>he still wins.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, I mean, I don't know what the
<v Speaker 2>fuck that means, you know, Like I guess, I mean,
<v Speaker 2>I guess that answers your question that he's not gonna
<v Speaker 2>accept the results of the election if I win. Now,
<v Speaker 2>I saw what I said. I said, Listen, that's not
<v Speaker 2>what I said. I will accept all the results of
<v Speaker 2>every election, but I will win either way. Say, I
<v Speaker 2>don't fucking know what that means exactly. To me, that
<v Speaker 2>sounds like, you know, I don't know what you're gonna do.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, to me, it sounds like two things. Number one,
<v Speaker 2>he's not gonna accept it, or number two, he's gonna
<v Speaker 2>fucking kill me, and he's gonna win by default. That's
<v Speaker 2>a good idea. Yeah, well, good luck with that, pale.
<v Speaker 2>But listen, I'm playing a straight and narrow you know,
<v Speaker 2>I'm low key, all right. I take things, you know,
<v Speaker 2>take things one day at a time, you know. So
<v Speaker 2>it is what it is.
<v Speaker 1>Well that puts us on the precipice, It is what
<v Speaker 1>it is. In a lot of ways. That's what we
<v Speaker 1>can say about this exercise and democracy. We started with
<v Speaker 1>thirty two and through a series of convoluted primaries and
<v Speaker 1>pitches for your support, it's come down to two lapsed
<v Speaker 1>Kevin Nash versus laps Vince McMahon to determine the one
<v Speaker 1>and only King of the Cast and celebration of ten
<v Speaker 1>years of the lapsed fan. It's been brought to you
<v Speaker 1>all of this time by our friends at Garage Beer,
<v Speaker 1>and it will continue through the finals to be brought
<v Speaker 1>to you by such and closing, I'd ask both of
<v Speaker 1>you gentlemen first, starting with you, mister Nash, when folks
<v Speaker 1>head to the polls on tlf's x account on Tuesday,
<v Speaker 1>November fifth, to cast their vote for the King of
<v Speaker 1>the Cast, what does a vote for you represent?
<v Speaker 2>Well, I'll tell you what A vote for me, you know,
<v Speaker 2>certainly going to provide some more freedoms that you never
<v Speaker 2>had before. You know, but I can offer you this,
<v Speaker 2>you know, if anything else, it's going to be a
<v Speaker 2>good time. You know, I'm gonna sit there and you know,
<v Speaker 2>we'll just chill, you know, maybe have a couple of drinks,
<v Speaker 2>some veno, you know, maybe a nap, of cab whatever.
<v Speaker 2>You know. So it's going to be very chill, watch
<v Speaker 2>some fucking movies or whatever. It's going to be a
<v Speaker 2>good time, you know. And even if you know what,
<v Speaker 2>even if you don't vote for me, come on over
<v Speaker 2>all fucking chill, hang out. You know, I'm down.
<v Speaker 1>Indeed, it is Sativa versus protein power bars on November fifth,
<v Speaker 1>mister McMahon and closing, what does a vote for you
<v Speaker 1>represent this election season?
<v Speaker 2>Will A vote for Vince McMahon is exactly what you
<v Speaker 2>think it is. It's a reminder of where you are
<v Speaker 2>on the spectrum. It's a reminder of where you are
<v Speaker 2>in humanity. You don't vote for me because you want to.
<v Speaker 2>You vote for me because I am the only choice.
<v Speaker 2>You vote for Vince McMahon because Vince sick Man is
<v Speaker 2>the only place that you feel safe. I am the
<v Speaker 2>King of the cast. I started this tournament as the
<v Speaker 2>King of the cast. I will go beyond this tournament
<v Speaker 2>the king of the cast. There's no way around it.
<v Speaker 2>There's nothing you can do to prevent it. It was predetermined,
<v Speaker 2>much like my product.
<v Speaker 1>It was predetermined. Is that what they'll say looking back
<v Speaker 1>ten years from now, twenty thirty fifty years from now
<v Speaker 1>when they talk about the King of the Cast tournament
<v Speaker 1>to crown the greatest character in the history of tlf
<v Speaker 1>Only one vote stands between us here today in the
<v Speaker 1>TLFX Games event Center for the final time and our answer.
<v Speaker 1>Keep it locked to tlfs X account for your chance
<v Speaker 1>to vote. Tuesday, November fifth, Election Day. One day only,
<v Speaker 1>Ladies and gentlemen, I'm like the rest of the tournament.
<v Speaker 1>One day only to cast your vote to decide who
<v Speaker 1>is crowned forever more, King of the Cast.

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