Cattitude - Episode 265 Disaster-Proof Your Pets: Emergency Prep with Dr. Deborah Mandell

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to talk about that thing. It fears me.
<v Speaker 2>One of the top fears I have is what to
<v Speaker 2>do when there is a disaster or emergency and you
<v Speaker 2>have to get your cat ready? What do you do?
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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back everyone. I'd like to welcome doctor Debbiemandel. She
<v Speaker 2>is a member of the Red Cross Scientific Advisory Council
<v Speaker 2>and a veterinarian as well. Welcome doctor Debbie.
<v Speaker 5>Thank you so much. Hello.
<v Speaker 2>Hi, Can you share your background with your with us
<v Speaker 2>and also how you're involved with the Red Cross?
<v Speaker 5>Absolutely?
<v Speaker 2>So.
<v Speaker 5>I am an emergency and critical care specialist. I'm the
<v Speaker 5>director of the Emergency Service at the Ryan Vedinar Hospital
<v Speaker 5>of the University of Pennsylvania. I started working with the
<v Speaker 5>Red Cross really after Hurricane Katrina, when I think that
<v Speaker 5>was where everyone's eyes really opened up as far as
<v Speaker 5>people are not going to leave their pets during disasters,
<v Speaker 5>and so we started partnering. It started with books dog
<v Speaker 5>and cat first aid books and including emergency and disaster planning,
<v Speaker 5>and kind of opened up from there.
<v Speaker 2>Doctor Debbie. Most people think of the Red Cross and
<v Speaker 2>association with helping people. How does the Red Cross get
<v Speaker 2>involved with helping furbage? You mentioned a book.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, so the Red Cross actually helps in lots of
<v Speaker 5>different ways. When I started with them, we did revamp
<v Speaker 5>a dog and cat first aid book, but you know,
<v Speaker 5>then technology advanced a lot, and so the Red Cross
<v Speaker 5>we actually developed a dog and cat online first aid
<v Speaker 5>course and there is a pet first Aid app. The
<v Speaker 5>Pet first Aid app is broken down into a cat
<v Speaker 5>section and a dog section, and they teach you how
<v Speaker 5>to know what's normal how to take your cat's vitals
<v Speaker 5>help determine if your cat is experiencing a life threatening emergency.
<v Speaker 5>They go through CPR, choking, bleeding, and many common emergencies
<v Speaker 5>that cats can have and how you can respond. The
<v Speaker 5>Pet First Aid app also has information on preventative care
<v Speaker 5>and also emergency planning. It has a section specifically about
<v Speaker 5>being prepared for disasters and emergencies for cats. More than that,
<v Speaker 5>during disasters, the Red Cross also does everything they can
<v Speaker 5>to accommodate service animals and domesticated pets comfortably in their shelters. Sometimes,
<v Speaker 5>depending on the situation, pets may need to be housed
<v Speaker 5>in a different location with support from their animal welfare
<v Speaker 5>group partners. But they really do try to help. That's
<v Speaker 5>been an amazing journey.
<v Speaker 2>So we're recording this in February twenty two. We've just
<v Speaker 2>experienced I think everybody all over the world was glued
<v Speaker 2>to Los Angeles with the fires. I've lived in Los
<v Speaker 2>Angeles experienced the fires, but nothing like that because they
<v Speaker 2>came catastrophic with the fierce winds, and I mean I
<v Speaker 2>think what it took almost what ten days or so
<v Speaker 2>for everything to be contained. It was just terrific. I
<v Speaker 2>remember Katrina. I've lived in South Florida with hurricanes, so
<v Speaker 2>experienced all that kind of craziness. You have time to
<v Speaker 2>repare earthquakes where you don't have time to prepare. How
<v Speaker 2>does the first Aid app help with those kind of situations,
<v Speaker 2>Because sometimes you have time to prepare for an emergency
<v Speaker 2>and sometimes you really don't.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, So the biggest thing that the Red Cross is
<v Speaker 5>always tells everyone, and the Pet First Aid app helps
<v Speaker 5>people do this is you need to be prepared, and
<v Speaker 5>so people should always include their cats in their disaster
<v Speaker 5>or emergency plans. They are part of our family. We
<v Speaker 5>know that people won't leave without them. So being prepared,
<v Speaker 5>like you said, knowing what you're going to do in
<v Speaker 5>a split second, along with if you have a lot
<v Speaker 5>of time to prepare, is super important and so hopefully
<v Speaker 5>you'll never need it, but you need to. You don't
<v Speaker 5>want to figure out how you're going to grab your
<v Speaker 5>cat and get out of the house if it's in
<v Speaker 5>the middle of an emergency. So emergency and disaster preparedness
<v Speaker 5>involves knowing what you're going to do if you need
<v Speaker 5>to move super fast, knowing how your cat is going
<v Speaker 5>to react, where they will hide, the easiest way to
<v Speaker 5>get them in a carrier, and knowing what to do
<v Speaker 5>if you need to leave home. And the Pet First
<v Speaker 5>dat up has sections on those.
<v Speaker 2>You know, you just hit on a couple of things
<v Speaker 2>that I find so challenging. Is one, getting them in
<v Speaker 2>the carrier that you're a cat. I've had to cancel
<v Speaker 2>that appointments because of that, and also getting them out
<v Speaker 2>of hiding. Mine don't well, yeah, they do hide. I
<v Speaker 2>was going to say, they don't really hide that much.
<v Speaker 2>They just don't go in the carrier, but one of
<v Speaker 2>them does hide. And I like also the idea of
<v Speaker 2>being prepared, so you know how Yeah, but you're people
<v Speaker 2>first aid kit or emergency kit with your whatever you
<v Speaker 2>need to take with you your vitals. That should be the
<v Speaker 2>same for your.
<v Speaker 5>Furbabe yep, yep, there's yep.
<v Speaker 2>And then what should that include.
<v Speaker 5>So for your pet, first aid kit and really supplies
<v Speaker 5>that you should have on hand if you need to
<v Speaker 5>evacuate or leave. If you want your medical records, including
<v Speaker 5>recent vaccinations, any medical conditions, any prescribed medications, your veterinarians
<v Speaker 5>name and number, out of area emergency contexts, a recent
<v Speaker 5>photo of your pet or pets cat or cats, a
<v Speaker 5>second collar with an ID and microchip information, and you
<v Speaker 5>can have all of that in a closed plastic bag.
<v Speaker 5>Your pet first aid kit can usually has things for
<v Speaker 5>emergencies like bleeding, a thermometer you want to and we
<v Speaker 5>can certainly talk about ways to figure out how to
<v Speaker 5>get your cat and where your cat hides, but all
<v Speaker 5>of the supplies that you would need to get your
<v Speaker 5>catser fast carriers, be it hard or collapsible carriers near
<v Speaker 5>an exit with all the supplies are super important. And
<v Speaker 5>then your disaster kit really would contain food and water bowls,
<v Speaker 5>a can opener if you have canned food, litter bags,
<v Speaker 5>things like that. Okay, and yeah, let's circle back to
<v Speaker 5>the carrier and the hiding cats, because when we have
<v Speaker 5>these natural disasters, even if you have time to prepare,
<v Speaker 5>you're still a little freaking you know, you're freaking out,
<v Speaker 5>You're absolutely you're worried about your fur babes, but yourself
<v Speaker 5>as well, and then your family members and all that.
<v Speaker 2>And then on top of this, you have a nervous cat.
<v Speaker 2>You have to get the carrier that does not want
<v Speaker 2>to go in that carrier. So what are some things
<v Speaker 2>we could do so at least we could minimize that
<v Speaker 2>kind of anxiety for the humans and for.
<v Speaker 5>The cats super stressful. So one of the things we
<v Speaker 5>say is the way you can figure out beforehand what
<v Speaker 5>works for you and your cat are to simulate an
<v Speaker 5>emergency and so having the smoke alarm go off so
<v Speaker 5>there's that really loud loud noise, and then seeing where
<v Speaker 5>your cat hides, and then once you see where they hide,
<v Speaker 5>you know, figuring out the best way is it a
<v Speaker 5>leash which you may have to use, a blanket to
<v Speaker 5>throw over them and put them on a carrier. All
<v Speaker 5>of the tricks that you need to figure out to
<v Speaker 5>get them out, even if you truly only have a
<v Speaker 5>split second, putting them in a pillowcase and running out
<v Speaker 5>of the house you know, obviously not if you have
<v Speaker 5>more time, but really any trick that you can think
<v Speaker 5>of as you're practicing will make it easier and hopefully
<v Speaker 5>obviously net you never ever have to do it, but
<v Speaker 5>at least you know the tricks that are the best
<v Speaker 5>to work for your cat or cats.
<v Speaker 2>That's a great idea about the pillow case. I'm sure
<v Speaker 2>your cats freaked out once you do that, but it's
<v Speaker 2>better than your cat. You know, remaining behind and who
<v Speaker 2>knows what that's exactly option, So what do you do?
<v Speaker 2>So I've also heard with the carriers that it's a
<v Speaker 2>great idea to leave them out, you know, don't just
<v Speaker 2>bring them out for the vet, but leave them out.
<v Speaker 2>One of my cats just I just tell him go in.
<v Speaker 2>He goes in and it's his chill at the vet.
<v Speaker 2>They were shocked. We said, come on, go inside. He
<v Speaker 2>just jumped in and they said, that's what he does
<v Speaker 2>at Yeah, he's easy. That's amazing, I know. Right, he's
<v Speaker 2>partnering coon. So he was my first cat, so now
<v Speaker 2>he's much older, dude, but he still does that. And
<v Speaker 2>I thought all cats were like that until I got more,
<v Speaker 2>and they're not all like that, definitely not main Coons
<v Speaker 2>are called the dog of cats. So my other two
<v Speaker 2>one is fearful of everything, everything, even treats, and the
<v Speaker 2>other one, the other one, is a diva like a
<v Speaker 2>normal cat, you know. So I think the biggest thing
<v Speaker 2>for pet parents to understand is you're doing this to
<v Speaker 2>save your cat. It's an urgency. If your cat's a
<v Speaker 2>little upset or you get some scratches or something, you're
<v Speaker 2>just doing this to save your cat, the cat's pissed
<v Speaker 2>off and hides after then that's what happens. But you
<v Speaker 2>have to take care of business.
<v Speaker 5>And that's why throwing a blanket over them and kind
<v Speaker 5>of scooping them up will protect you as well. And
<v Speaker 5>if you have to use a leash to kind of
<v Speaker 5>get them out again, it's it's just that you really
<v Speaker 5>have no other choice. You need to get them out
<v Speaker 5>and then scooping them in the blanket to protect yourself.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's a good idea too. What about you mentioned
<v Speaker 2>also on the disaster kit food, So what about in
<v Speaker 2>cases of food, because the big thing now a lot
<v Speaker 2>of people like raw food or frozen food, and a
<v Speaker 2>lot of food trends on that kind of level. Well,
<v Speaker 2>if you have a disaster, you have to go with
<v Speaker 2>the kibble and the can.
<v Speaker 5>Correct correct you really, you know, again, these are extreme circumstances.
<v Speaker 5>And if you have the ability once you're in a
<v Speaker 5>safe area to get the food that they're used to,
<v Speaker 5>that's great. But what if you can't get to that area.
<v Speaker 5>What if you are, you know, in a shelter where
<v Speaker 5>you need to provide the food. You want to make
<v Speaker 5>sure that they have food and so whatever whatever they
<v Speaker 5>like that's not what they're used to, and not that
<v Speaker 5>that's the best, but it's better than having no food.
<v Speaker 5>So absolutely, something that will stay, stay safe for and
<v Speaker 5>you want to have one to two weeks worth ideally
<v Speaker 5>that doesn't need to be refrigerated is going to be
<v Speaker 5>the best. Absolutely.
<v Speaker 2>And what about water, same.
<v Speaker 5>One to two weeks of you know, most people would
<v Speaker 5>have bottled water.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, for themselves and their pets. Okay, we're going to
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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back everyone. We're talking to doctor Debbie Mandel. She
<v Speaker 2>is vet marian and also works with the Red Cross,
<v Speaker 2>and we're talking about what to do with your furbabes,
<v Speaker 2>especially your cats, of course, on catitude during an emergency.
<v Speaker 2>So here's another question for you, doctor Debbie. How do
<v Speaker 2>you know where to go with your pet? Because not
<v Speaker 2>everybody has a friend's home or a place that they
<v Speaker 2>can evacuate.
<v Speaker 5>To absolutely and that is a super important point and
<v Speaker 5>part of your evacuation, your disaster preparedness is knowing where
<v Speaker 5>you're going to go in multiple directions in case roads
<v Speaker 5>are closed, and so figuring out which hotels are pet friendly, kennels,
<v Speaker 5>are boarding facilities, vet hospitals, family members friends. The Pet
<v Speaker 5>First Aid app has a vet locator if you're out
<v Speaker 5>of town, and a hotel locator. Also, do you have
<v Speaker 5>a neighbor that would be able to get your cat
<v Speaker 5>or cats and supplies if you aren't home, Including them
<v Speaker 5>and where you would meet them would be important during
<v Speaker 5>an emergency if there are multiple family members in the house,
<v Speaker 5>or multiple people in the house assigning each of them
<v Speaker 5>a different job, so one person gets the supplies, one
<v Speaker 5>person gets each cat or multiple cats. There are smoke
<v Speaker 5>alarms that actually send an alert to your phone so
<v Speaker 5>you can start contacting the necessary people. So really mapping
<v Speaker 5>it out in each direction where you might have to
<v Speaker 5>evacuate again beforehand is very important.
<v Speaker 2>Those are great tips. What about cameras in your home?
<v Speaker 2>We have some, and I'd like to just be able
<v Speaker 2>to see my cats and they're okay, there's no fire,
<v Speaker 2>everything's good. Our camera's helpful or it's just a tool,
<v Speaker 2>but it's not the main thing. No.
<v Speaker 5>Actually, a lot of people have cat cams or pet cams,
<v Speaker 5>and it's actually been amazing the people who watch while
<v Speaker 5>they aren't home and see that there's an issue that
<v Speaker 5>arises being there, being sick or something like a true
<v Speaker 5>emergency or disaster. So yeah, they've been great. If you
<v Speaker 5>cannot be glued to it all day.
<v Speaker 2>That happens sometimes that happens, or away really hard when
<v Speaker 2>you're away. Now we've talked about disasters that are you know,
<v Speaker 2>natural disasters, but there's also certain things. I mean, there's
<v Speaker 2>so many crazy things. There's shootings, there's you know, riots,
<v Speaker 2>there's terror, you know, terrorist attacks, there's all kinds of crazy.
<v Speaker 2>And I remember one that I was in in LA
<v Speaker 2>and a friend wanted me to evacuate because of where
<v Speaker 2>I lived. It was like an area not too far
<v Speaker 2>from where some of the craziness is going on. I said,
<v Speaker 2>I have this big dog, how can I evacuate? And
<v Speaker 2>I was actually pretty okay. Wasn't a really immediate situation
<v Speaker 2>that I had to leave, So I was okay, But
<v Speaker 2>what about when those situations strike, because those are really
<v Speaker 2>very anxiety provoking, maybe even more so than natural disasters.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, those are those are super scary. I mean, it's
<v Speaker 5>you know, it's it's always safe to evacuate, and it's
<v Speaker 5>safer to evacuate with your pets if there's a question
<v Speaker 5>then waiting it out and then not being able to evacuate,
<v Speaker 5>I mean, thankfully, obviously it was great that you guys
<v Speaker 5>were okay, and it is when it's not directly at you,
<v Speaker 5>it's really hard to determine. But if there's any question,
<v Speaker 5>it's always safe to to evacuate, if you are waiting
<v Speaker 5>to hear if you should evacuate, getting your pets in
<v Speaker 5>one room, having the cats in their carriers or at
<v Speaker 5>least close to them, so you can leave at a
<v Speaker 5>moment's notice. Because if you don't evacuate and then you
<v Speaker 5>need to be rescued, it's going to be very difficult
<v Speaker 5>to impossible for your pets to come with you. So
<v Speaker 5>it may be that you end up not needing to evacuate,
<v Speaker 5>but it's always safer so and those are really tricky situations,
<v Speaker 5>you know. I would say getting as far away as
<v Speaker 5>possible is always the safest.
<v Speaker 2>But it's hard. It is hard, and it's even hard
<v Speaker 2>sometimes with a natural disaster. And we saw that a lot,
<v Speaker 2>you know in Los Angeles televis where people didn't and
<v Speaker 2>rightly so they weren't sure should they leave or should
<v Speaker 2>they not, and the fire spread so fast that they
<v Speaker 2>barely you know, had time to prepare. I had a
<v Speaker 2>situation where I lived in LA for many years, moved
<v Speaker 2>back to South Florida. Was calling hurricanes earthquakes for a while,
<v Speaker 2>but this was, oh, I forget the name of this one.
<v Speaker 2>This was way back almost twenty years ago. And the
<v Speaker 2>place I had was not in the hurricane areas where,
<v Speaker 2>especially in South Florida and most of Florida and other
<v Speaker 2>coastal areas. You know, you have impact windows, shutters and
<v Speaker 2>those kind of things in their necessity, and the house
<v Speaker 2>that I had didn't have any of those things. So
<v Speaker 2>I thought I'd better evacuate. So I have I did.
<v Speaker 2>I had a dog then no cat, but you know,
<v Speaker 2>I took out everything, loaded my car with whatever, just
<v Speaker 2>because you do need to be more prepared. You have to,
<v Speaker 2>just if you have the time to prepare, grab everything
<v Speaker 2>and go. And went to a family member's home who
<v Speaker 2>didn't live too far and he was my brother and
<v Speaker 2>sister in law were fined for me to bring the dog.
<v Speaker 2>They had a dog, so it was all good, and
<v Speaker 2>I was really lucky, you know, I had time to prepare.
<v Speaker 2>I was able to get all of my dog's things
<v Speaker 2>and food and everything, because I think we had no
<v Speaker 2>power for three days. But I could just imagine as
<v Speaker 2>anxiety and stress that I provoked and distressed that I was,
<v Speaker 2>and that gave me time to think about what to do.
<v Speaker 2>Imagine not having the time all of a sudden, just
<v Speaker 2>boom and just you don't know until you know, you know.
<v Speaker 5>And that's why having it all fit so you don't
<v Speaker 5>have to you're going to be so stressed in a
<v Speaker 5>thousand things that were going to be going through your mind.
<v Speaker 5>You just want to be able to have every thing
<v Speaker 5>all there. You know, know what you have to do
<v Speaker 5>because any kind of emergency, be it choking, CPR disasters,
<v Speaker 5>you know, the more you're prepared, the more you can
<v Speaker 5>just do it in in a very unfortunate emergency situation.
<v Speaker 2>So practice, have it all set and just go okay, Now,
<v Speaker 2>what do you think about the stickers that you can
<v Speaker 2>put in front of your home that let's you know,
<v Speaker 2>first responders know that there's pets in the home. Should
<v Speaker 2>you not be there to take care of your pets
<v Speaker 2>or Yeah, it would be a situation where you're not
<v Speaker 2>there to take care of your pets.
<v Speaker 5>Absolutely, and you should have them on the front window
<v Speaker 5>and the back window. Most of them say how many dogs,
<v Speaker 5>how many cats? How many other and you just want
<v Speaker 5>to make sure that it's up to date, you know,
<v Speaker 5>if you get new pets, you want to make sure.
<v Speaker 5>I use a dry erase marker to make sure the
<v Speaker 5>number of animals and types of animals are up to date.
<v Speaker 2>But absolutely, yeah, I'm one of those. They're very handy.
<v Speaker 2>What should we not do during a emergency? Besides you know,
<v Speaker 2>be nervous.
<v Speaker 5>I think the biggest thing is not listening to what
<v Speaker 5>people are saying. You know, if people are saying evacuate,
<v Speaker 5>or people are saying get ready because you may need
<v Speaker 5>to evacuate, and thinking, you know, we saw lots of
<v Speaker 5>people like you said, try to write it out and
<v Speaker 5>many might be okay, but there are many that then
<v Speaker 5>become stranded or worse need to be rescued, and so
<v Speaker 5>really not listening is the worst thing that may happen.
<v Speaker 2>So now this is just an opinion, but in your
<v Speaker 2>professional opinion, do you think they sometimes sensationalize some of
<v Speaker 2>this stuff on the news or not. I know with
<v Speaker 2>hurricanes they sometimes do living in hurricane land, but we
<v Speaker 2>also have time for this. But you also can never
<v Speaker 2>tell because things change. I use an app called Wunderground,
<v Speaker 2>and the last one I was on that, I was
<v Speaker 2>updating it every you know, like twenty minutes it was
<v Speaker 2>it was flued. But with other things, you you know, fires,
<v Speaker 2>you don't have that chance. Earthquake just happens. You don't
<v Speaker 2>even I mean, you have no notice pretty much. So
<v Speaker 2>do you think it's sensationalized when there's notice on the news,
<v Speaker 2>or it's just you know, I forget about that. Just
<v Speaker 2>if you hear about it, just listen and be prepared.
<v Speaker 5>I really don't, you know, I think that once they
<v Speaker 5>hear that something might be really bad, it's it's their
<v Speaker 5>job to alert us. And so whether it's you just
<v Speaker 5>get everything ready and then you wait for the next update.
<v Speaker 5>I really don't think that it would that they sensilize everything.
<v Speaker 5>I think that they really are just trying to have
<v Speaker 5>us be as prepared as possible. So if we're not home,
<v Speaker 5>we can go home, so we can get everything ready
<v Speaker 5>in that room you know, where you can leave quickly.
<v Speaker 5>And you're right, you know, there are so many that
<v Speaker 5>you have no warning. And then there are others where
<v Speaker 5>well it depends on which way the storm is going,
<v Speaker 5>but if it takes that path and goes towards your house,
<v Speaker 5>you want to be.
<v Speaker 2>Ready, Yes you do. And actually mister Zeus is in.
<v Speaker 2>He was my doggie. He's in Doggy Heaven, has been
<v Speaker 2>for almost five years. But I actually got him the
<v Speaker 2>eve of a hurricane in two thousand and five.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, there are lots of pets that need homes after
<v Speaker 5>hurricanes and disasters.
<v Speaker 2>Well he kept me company. Actually for this one. My
<v Speaker 2>home was prepared and it was we were safe. But
<v Speaker 2>you know, sometimes it's nice if you can write it
<v Speaker 2>out to have in a situation and it's not where
<v Speaker 2>you have to evacuate to have a fur babe. So
<v Speaker 2>it's a good incentive for people that are thinking of
<v Speaker 2>adopting to adopt, not to just be safe or in
<v Speaker 2>a hurricane, but just overall. Always agreed, I mean, it's
<v Speaker 2>always good to you know, hit reach out to the shelters.
<v Speaker 2>What would you say if you had one tip to
<v Speaker 2>tell our cat audience of what to do for an
<v Speaker 2>upcoming emergency disaster, you know, whatever it might be, what
<v Speaker 2>would you tell them?
<v Speaker 5>Really, just know where where your cat hides and how
<v Speaker 5>they react. Some cats will, like you said, scratch and
<v Speaker 5>bite and that's their defense mechanism. You're freaking out there,
<v Speaker 5>freaking out best way to get them so that everybody
<v Speaker 5>is safe.
<v Speaker 2>That's fantastic. Where can people find out more about how
<v Speaker 2>to be prepared for themselves and their furbabes? You mentioned
<v Speaker 2>the first Aid app? What is it called? Then? Where
<v Speaker 2>can people find it? So?
<v Speaker 5>The Red Cross has a Red Cross Emergency app and
<v Speaker 5>that takes people through what to do before, during, and
<v Speaker 5>after a variety of severe weather and disaster situations. You
<v Speaker 5>can also set that app up to receive warnings in
<v Speaker 5>your neighborhood or where your loved ones live. The Red
<v Speaker 5>Cross Pet First Aid app has sectioned specifically for emergency
<v Speaker 5>and disaster preparedness to help burry family members and their owners.
<v Speaker 2>I'm so grateful to hear all of this. This is
<v Speaker 2>such great information. Thank you so much for coming on Caatitude.
<v Speaker 5>Thank you so much for having me.
<v Speaker 2>I hope you all enjoyed this show. You know it's
<v Speaker 2>something we never want to think about, emergencies and disasters
<v Speaker 2>and natural disasters, but it's important to be prepared. Please
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