WWE Raw Review: Sami & Solo Try to Recruit Seth Rollins, Women's Tag Team Title Match, Gunther Fears Damien Priest?

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Let's talk about WWE Raw that aired November 11th, 2024. One that saw Priest confront Damien Priest, Jade & Bianca take on Liv Morgan & Raquel Rodriguez for the Women's Tag Team Titles, Sami Zayn & Solo attempt to recruit Seth Rollins as their 5th member for War Games, The Miz set up The Wyatts and much more!

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<v Speaker 2>Guys? Time to talk raw here on this twelfth day
<v Speaker 2>of November twenty twenty four, and lots to cover on
<v Speaker 2>this raw episode here that really ram things up for
<v Speaker 2>a Survivor series and put the war games match of
<v Speaker 2>Bloodline versus Bloodline at the forefront. Yeah, held the brand rules.
<v Speaker 2>Those have been gone for a while, especially when it
<v Speaker 2>comes to big main events, and it's it's been a
<v Speaker 2>story that's been woven throughout both shows, and I continue
<v Speaker 2>to expect that to happen over the coming weeks as
<v Speaker 2>we build towards a Survivors series ple that's coming to
<v Speaker 2>us November thirtieth.
<v Speaker 3>I believe. So.
<v Speaker 2>So we've got a lot to talk about. There are
<v Speaker 2>a lot of good stuff though, I mean, I know
<v Speaker 2>that people are a bit disappointed or not understanding why
<v Speaker 2>a fifth member needs to be included, and I actually
<v Speaker 2>make a case for why they should, even though both
<v Speaker 2>the OG Bloodline and Solo's Bloodline don't have a fifth member.
<v Speaker 2>That's really very obvious right now, although if you think
<v Speaker 2>about it, it's I think one will, one will. The
<v Speaker 2>reason they're doing these two extra guys is to build
<v Speaker 2>towards WrestleMania, and we'll talk about that in just a minute.
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<v Speaker 2>think I got all the housekeeping stuff. Let's dive into
<v Speaker 2>Monday Night Raw and let's talk about the Bloodline story.
<v Speaker 2>As earlier mentioned, I think this story, no, I know,
<v Speaker 2>it has a means to an end. The five on
<v Speaker 2>five format number one feels much more like Survivor series
<v Speaker 2>than if there wasn't five on five. Yes, it's in
<v Speaker 2>a war games match. It's not your traditional five on
<v Speaker 2>five tag team elimination match. That's not what this is.
<v Speaker 2>And I prefer this though, over the forced brand rivalry
<v Speaker 2>that some of you loved, and I still don't understand
<v Speaker 2>how or why, But to each his own, and this
<v Speaker 2>is so the numbers are with Survivor series. It's nice
<v Speaker 2>five on five. In the coming weeks, I'm sure you'll
<v Speaker 2>see who gets an advantage based on the matches, or
<v Speaker 2>some kind of qualifier match or some kind of match
<v Speaker 2>with a stipulation that the winner earns the advance in wargames,
<v Speaker 2>which there is no real advantage because the match doesn't
<v Speaker 2>even start until everyone's in the match. I never understood that, Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>they may have the advantage simply for the fact that
<v Speaker 2>they're always outnumbered every time there's somebody coming in, and
<v Speaker 2>every time there's a new person coming in, they're outnumbered
<v Speaker 2>or a new person anyway, So they'll be like, it'll
<v Speaker 2>be a two on one, then it'll be three on two,
<v Speaker 2>and that'll be you know, four on three, and it just,
<v Speaker 2>you know, it seems like it's gonna be constantly a
<v Speaker 2>handicap match.
<v Speaker 3>But here's the thing.
<v Speaker 2>You can't eliminate anyone until the bell rings and everyone's
<v Speaker 2>in the match. So at that point, any advantage you
<v Speaker 2>think you had doesn't exist. So they'll try to sell
<v Speaker 2>you a bill of goods that there's an advantage. There
<v Speaker 2>is no advantage. I never understood why, Hey, guys abide
<v Speaker 2>by these rules. But the match hasn't even started yet.
<v Speaker 2>How does that work? So anyway, it'll be a fun match.
<v Speaker 2>We've been talking about this bloodline bloodline match for a
<v Speaker 2>long time. In this past week, both Sammy and Solo
<v Speaker 2>Soakoa attempt to recruit Seth Rollins. Seth Rollins says no
<v Speaker 2>to both. Now you know it's a babyface. He's gonna
<v Speaker 2>say no to Solo. That makes sense. It is interesting.
<v Speaker 2>He told Solo that the next time he's in a
<v Speaker 2>ring with Roman Reigns, he's gonna be stomping his head
<v Speaker 2>into the mat. That's interesting. A babyface threatening a babyface
<v Speaker 2>when that happens, I don't know. It still feels like
<v Speaker 2>these two have not had a proper program. I've said
<v Speaker 2>that for literally years now, that these two have yet
<v Speaker 2>to have a full length, actual program. They tease it
<v Speaker 2>here and there. There's the Survivor series or what was
<v Speaker 2>it when when Roman attempted to or seth Rowlins attempted
<v Speaker 2>to play mind games with Roman with the shield gear
<v Speaker 2>and then wrestle Manias Rolin shows up and all the
<v Speaker 2>rest of it. And I feel like we get we
<v Speaker 2>get little glimpses of it, and then it's gone for
<v Speaker 2>like two years.
<v Speaker 3>You don't see it again.
<v Speaker 2>So I believe the next draft that there is, these
<v Speaker 2>two will be on the same brand. It needs to happen.
<v Speaker 2>So he still has no love loss for Roman, not
<v Speaker 2>even a little bit, and so he puts down Solo
<v Speaker 2>and the big insult insult to him was saying that
<v Speaker 2>he's a Roman Reigns wanna be. So that was the
<v Speaker 2>burn to Solo and he walks off. But he also
<v Speaker 2>Sammy Zain tries to recruit him to be the fifth
<v Speaker 2>member of the og bloodline, and he told Sammy, you're
<v Speaker 2>blind after everything he did to you, you can't see it,
<v Speaker 2>but I can. I know who Roman Reigns really is.
<v Speaker 2>And Sammy he got a big no from Rollins and
<v Speaker 2>Sammy was kind of dejected about it, and you know
<v Speaker 2>that's that, and it lends you really to wonder what
<v Speaker 2>the hell Seth Rollins is going to do at Survivors Series.
<v Speaker 2>It seems like he could be continuing with Bronson Reid.
<v Speaker 2>He could be, but next week it seems like that's it.
<v Speaker 2>So they are likely wrapping this up next week based
<v Speaker 2>on what Adam Pierce said to Seth Rollins that you
<v Speaker 2>get your match next week, but that's it. One more.
<v Speaker 2>You know, Adam Pierce does his obligatory just red faced
<v Speaker 2>screaming on Raw. He just it wouldn't be a mondyet
<v Speaker 2>Raw without Adam Pierce screaming and yelling. And Adam Pierce,
<v Speaker 2>I think he's done a nice job. I think he's
<v Speaker 2>grown on me. At first I thought he was insufferable,
<v Speaker 2>and he slowly gruned me, and he improved and improved
<v Speaker 2>and improved, and I've got nothing really bad to say
<v Speaker 2>about him. And so hearing him lose it every week,
<v Speaker 2>because it's almost becoming a guilty pleasure of mine, losing
<v Speaker 2>it screaming at somebody security gets their ass kicked. It's
<v Speaker 2>the same old and that's what we got here with
<v Speaker 2>Bronson Red and Seth Rollins. As the brawl ensues and
<v Speaker 2>there's really no clear cut guy that gets the advantage
<v Speaker 2>or last laugh.
<v Speaker 3>They each have.
<v Speaker 2>Moments during the brawl where they have you know, the
<v Speaker 2>upper hand slamming Bronson Reid into the post and setting
<v Speaker 2>up Seth through the table but not doing it. I mean,
<v Speaker 2>it's it's been a lot of fun. I wonder what
<v Speaker 2>a Bronson Read story looks like without this formula?
<v Speaker 3>Though?
<v Speaker 2>Is this how every Bronson Read program is going to go?
<v Speaker 2>Where it is eighty five percent backstage? It's not a
<v Speaker 2>complaint yet, but I could seeing it. I could see
<v Speaker 2>it getting a little repetitive with fans and the fact
<v Speaker 2>that he's been using this formula for now a couple
<v Speaker 2>of programs is different, yes, but also you can't live here.
<v Speaker 2>It gets the attention of fans, no doubt, and people
<v Speaker 2>know who you are now and it's a big deal.
<v Speaker 2>But I would like to see Bronson Reid have a
<v Speaker 2>traditional program at some point. And I don't know, does
<v Speaker 2>anybody know what the match next week is? I mean,
<v Speaker 2>it can't be a straight up wrestling match. These two
<v Speaker 2>have to be in some kind of like death match
<v Speaker 2>or fire pit match or spear through the heart match.
<v Speaker 2>I don't know something because these two all the destruction
<v Speaker 2>they've caused, admittedly very entertaining like the Bronze strolling feud
<v Speaker 2>was with Bronson Reid again, it's followingly kind of that
<v Speaker 2>same format, but it's making Bronson read a bigger star.
<v Speaker 2>You know, win loser draw, Bronson Reid is getting a
<v Speaker 2>lot more eyeballs, if not the most eyeballs he's ever
<v Speaker 2>had on him during this stretch. And that's really the
<v Speaker 2>net positive year is that you have a guy that
<v Speaker 2>came from on again off again moments go away and
<v Speaker 2>not really finding his footing and knowing where and go
<v Speaker 2>to a guy that is all about destruction, is all
<v Speaker 2>about making a name for himself. I mean, you kind
<v Speaker 2>of know what his mission and goals are. It's not
<v Speaker 2>hard to figure out, and he's said as much. So
<v Speaker 2>now he's working with top talent, top top talent like
<v Speaker 2>Seth Rollins, and that wind loser draw is a win,
<v Speaker 2>a net win again even in a loss, it's not
<v Speaker 2>going to really matter that much for Bronson Reid if
<v Speaker 2>he loses. So I'm really enjoying what they've done here
<v Speaker 2>with Seth and with Bronson Reid.
<v Speaker 3>Justice.
<v Speaker 2>I enjoyed Bronson Reid and Bronz Stroman more than I
<v Speaker 2>thought I would and it's bringing a side of seth
<v Speaker 2>Out too. Let's not forget that is much more serious.
<v Speaker 2>It's less showmanship and more substance. Where we're getting the
<v Speaker 2>Seth Rollins that is confident, that wants a violence, that's
<v Speaker 2>not trying to crack so many jokes. We're not getting
<v Speaker 2>the incessant sing along to his music, which is always good.
<v Speaker 2>You're still hearing it, but it's less of the showmanship
<v Speaker 2>and more of the violence. And that's really what I
<v Speaker 2>think most of us at our core want, and we're
<v Speaker 2>getting it from Seth Rollins. We're getting that kind of
<v Speaker 2>It's like a throwback but evolved throwback version of Seth Rollins,
<v Speaker 2>if that makes sense at all. So I've enjoyed the
<v Speaker 2>heck out of it. But let's get to the rest
<v Speaker 2>of Raw. Here, we do have the obligatory tag team
<v Speaker 2>match with the women, because there's nothing at all, ever
<v Speaker 2>special about a women's tag title match. And if you
<v Speaker 2>didn't know it, all you have to do is look
<v Speaker 2>at every single show that's done and you realize, hey,
<v Speaker 2>there's not a women's tag team match on this Why
<v Speaker 2>fans have come to expect this to always for every
<v Speaker 2>show to always have a Women's tag team title match,
<v Speaker 2>which you guessed it does devalue the the feeling of
<v Speaker 2>the importance of the match, the value of the championships.
<v Speaker 2>It's really just kind of a it's an unfortunate expectation
<v Speaker 2>that fans have. So Yes, bell Air and Jade Cargill
<v Speaker 2>take on Live Morgan and Raquel Rodriguez and quick match
<v Speaker 2>here as bell Air and Jade Cargill beat liv Morgan
<v Speaker 2>and Roquel to retain their titles. Sadly, the finish was
<v Speaker 2>Naomi coming out, who pulled Stratton from the apron before
<v Speaker 2>running into the barricade. Morgan put Naomi down with the DDT.
<v Speaker 2>Morgan tagged herself into the match and went for a
<v Speaker 2>move from the ropes, but Cargo caught her with a kick,
<v Speaker 2>and Belair tagged in and hit the kod on Morgan
<v Speaker 2>and got the victory. After the match, Jack's close lines
<v Speaker 2>bell Air and Cargill from behind and then put Naomi
<v Speaker 2>down again, and Eosky runs out, threw a kick at Jackson,
<v Speaker 2>then hit her with springboard dropkick, and the four baby
<v Speaker 2>Faces ganged up on Jax. Bell Air and Cargill performed
<v Speaker 2>the double souplex on her and they all celebrated to.
<v Speaker 3>End the show.
<v Speaker 2>That was the main event, by the way, were the
<v Speaker 2>Women's Tag Team Championships, Yes, the main event. Now you
<v Speaker 2>look at any other main event time wise, you're looking
<v Speaker 2>at fifteen to twenty minutes. To the fact that they
<v Speaker 2>gave four women seven and a half minutes instead of
<v Speaker 2>two men twenty minutes, I mean that just it shows
<v Speaker 2>what they really think about the women's tag team division.
<v Speaker 2>They may on the surface be doing all the things right,
<v Speaker 2>giving them more matches, putting them in the main event,
<v Speaker 2>so we can't say they never put in the main
<v Speaker 2>event of Raw, yet they're they're doing it full well
<v Speaker 2>knowing that this is all superficial. It's all for show,
<v Speaker 2>because if you truly valued women's tag team wrestling, you
<v Speaker 2>would have a deep roster where women are constantly scratching
<v Speaker 2>and clawing to get an opportunity at the championships, which
<v Speaker 2>by the way, are only and should only be defended
<v Speaker 2>on pls most of the time. And you also only
<v Speaker 2>a lot seven and a half minutes for four women,
<v Speaker 2>give me a break. Now, again, a lot of it
<v Speaker 2>is to cover Jade, which she continues to get very mediocre,
<v Speaker 2>and that's being kind reactions. Fans are not buying in
<v Speaker 2>this because she has stagnated completely. The flower is off
<v Speaker 2>the bloom where Okay, yeah, she looks like a million bucks,
<v Speaker 2>and fans gravitate to that. She's a very unique looking woman.
<v Speaker 2>She's also good looking but muscular. She's got an interesting
<v Speaker 2>combination together, a rare combination that she has together.
<v Speaker 3>So good for her.
<v Speaker 2>But if that's the only card you have to play,
<v Speaker 2>eventually that cards value will burn out. And she's finding
<v Speaker 2>out right now that she can't just worry about posting
<v Speaker 2>her latest outfit that really is just supposed to show
<v Speaker 2>off her body. Yet she'll disguise it as look at
<v Speaker 2>my outfit, don't you like my colors? When it's really
<v Speaker 2>the truth of the matter is look at my physique.
<v Speaker 2>Doesn't it make me? Doesn't it? Isn't it great? That's
<v Speaker 2>essentially what she's saying in all of those pictures that
<v Speaker 2>she posts. But can you tell I'm just frustrated with
<v Speaker 2>everyone else being sacrificed at the altar of Jade Cargill,
<v Speaker 2>No one more more than, of course, Bianca bell Air,
<v Speaker 2>who continues to every time she's tagged into these matches
<v Speaker 2>kick ass. So it followed the same format as every
<v Speaker 2>other Jade Bianca tag team match. Where Jade's in trouble,
<v Speaker 2>she gets the hot tag. Is Jade capable of a
<v Speaker 2>hot tag? Are we seriously at the point where we
<v Speaker 2>don't trust Jade to get the hot tag and just
<v Speaker 2>do clotheslines and do suplexes and quick maneuvers, I mean
<v Speaker 2>hot tags? That's really all that's substitutively?
<v Speaker 3>Is that a word?
<v Speaker 2>Part of a hot tag? Is you come in, you
<v Speaker 2>kick ass, you closeline, you knock down maybe a couple
<v Speaker 2>superkicks because the law mandates it. You have obviously many punches,
<v Speaker 2>a couple of simple supplexes. You don't have to go crazy,
<v Speaker 2>couple cross bodies. Is she just not confident enough? Or
<v Speaker 2>is wwwe not confident enough in her to get a
<v Speaker 2>hot tag? I may have missed it over the months
<v Speaker 2>since they've been tag teams attack team, But can anyone
<v Speaker 2>name another time in which Jade got the hot tag
<v Speaker 2>and not Bianca?
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if that's I don't know if that's
<v Speaker 2>ever happened, But to my knowledge my very flawed memory,
<v Speaker 2>I don't think it has. Now let's get to something
<v Speaker 2>else here, and let's start at the top of raw
<v Speaker 2>and the let's see the top of raw if I
<v Speaker 2>get this correct, because I don't want to miss any
<v Speaker 2>detail important ones.
<v Speaker 3>Anyway, we had.
<v Speaker 2>Gunther come out and being introduced by Lily and Garcia God,
<v Speaker 2>it's great to hear her voice, and Gunther started or
<v Speaker 2>stated that the only thing that matters is that he
<v Speaker 2>is still the world heavyweight champion. He doesn't live in
<v Speaker 2>the past and instead looks at what's in front of him.
<v Speaker 2>Gunther said he has a lot to say about his
<v Speaker 2>next challenger. That's when Damian Priest comes out and joined Gunther.
<v Speaker 2>Priest recalled some of the insults that Gunther dished on
<v Speaker 2>him in the past, and Priest said that that title
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't be around the waste of Gunther right now had
<v Speaker 2>it not been for quote his so called brother referring
<v Speaker 2>to Finn Balor. I feel like those two still haven't
<v Speaker 2>had a proper program. But so anyway, Priest said, Gunther
<v Speaker 2>has started to doubt himself. Pri said Gunther's vibe has
<v Speaker 2>faded even more since he was pinned by Cody in
<v Speaker 2>Saudi Arabia. Gunther showed that the comment got to him
<v Speaker 2>and Cody Cody Chant broke out and pri said Gunther
<v Speaker 2>couldn't even speak because he had doubt. And then we
<v Speaker 2>have pre saying that Gunther can't beat him. Ludwig Kaiser
<v Speaker 2>comes out and question what was happening. He does stand
<v Speaker 2>up for Gunther. There's no official turn here, although I
<v Speaker 2>think that's coming, and guntherer covered the microphone and then
<v Speaker 2>poke Kai with his finger while talking to him. Kaiser
<v Speaker 2>said he wouldn't let street trash or every time I
<v Speaker 2>hear that, I think of Aladdin. But that's street rat,
<v Speaker 2>not street trash. But I guess potato potato. So anyway,
<v Speaker 2>so Priest punches Kaiser and cleared him from the ring.
<v Speaker 2>Gunther teased making a move and then backed off, and
<v Speaker 2>then Gunther exited. So here's a couple good things from
<v Speaker 2>this segment. Number one, Priest feels like he belongs. The
<v Speaker 2>Priest experiment is over. It has succeeded. Now how far
<v Speaker 2>can we take it is the next question?
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.
<v Speaker 2>Priest has it, He has a presence, he can talk,
<v Speaker 2>he feels confident, he doesn't feel like a fish out
<v Speaker 2>of water. He feels like he's ready, and he belongs
<v Speaker 2>in that top tier, and it's a credit to him
<v Speaker 2>and credit to Creative for being able to put him
<v Speaker 2>in that position. It's what the business is all about,
<v Speaker 2>is developing new stars, as sometimes painful as that can be.
<v Speaker 2>So do I think Priest has an actual chance to
<v Speaker 2>beat Gunther? No, not at this moment, not at this juncture,
<v Speaker 2>because I think they have much bigger plans for Gunther
<v Speaker 2>down the road, including the WrestleMania And if that's the case,
<v Speaker 2>you're gonna have him remain with the championship until that time.
<v Speaker 2>So let's move on. We have Kofi thanking our Truth
<v Speaker 2>for helping him out backstage with the Final Testament. He
<v Speaker 2>also apologized for not helping him, and Kingston mentioned that
<v Speaker 2>Xavier didn't want to help. Woods showed up and asked
<v Speaker 2>what they were talking about, and Pete Dunay. Pete Dunn
<v Speaker 2>interrupted and took issue with Truth, referring to him as butch.
<v Speaker 2>Kingston spoke up on behalf of Truth. Woods said this
<v Speaker 2>has nothing to do with him, and he wasn't happy
<v Speaker 2>with Kingston challenging done to a match. So we'll talk
<v Speaker 2>about that debacle in a minute, But first, Damage controls
<v Speaker 2>EO Sky Kyrie saying and Dakota Kai take on Pure
<v Speaker 2>Fusion Collective, which consists of Dakota Kai, Sonya Deville, Shannon Basler,
<v Speaker 2>and Zoe Stark. So this match, let's see how many
<v Speaker 2>minutes it got. I'm trying to find, oh, ten minutes,
<v Speaker 2>about ten minutes with damage controls Eosky, Kyrie Saan and
<v Speaker 2>Dakota Kai getting the victory here, and I guess that's
<v Speaker 2>a good thing. Although beating Pure Fusion Collective isn't exactly
<v Speaker 2>you know, winning an Olympic medal. It's kind of like
<v Speaker 2>everyone's on that at this point. I don't know why
<v Speaker 2>they brought Sonya Deville back just to keep losing.
<v Speaker 3>But here we are.
<v Speaker 2>So backstage, Jay Usso spoke with Sammy about how saving
<v Speaker 2>the group on Friday, and Jimmy showed up and then
<v Speaker 2>Sammy turned away. Jimmy asked what Sammy's problem was, and
<v Speaker 2>Jay tried to get them on the same page and
<v Speaker 2>said they needed a fifth member. Oh, we needed that
<v Speaker 2>fifth member for our Survivors series team in war games.
<v Speaker 2>And Jay said they don't have friends on Monday or Friday,
<v Speaker 2>and Zayane said he might know someone. Zaine told Jay
<v Speaker 2>that he would text him after Zayne walked away, Jimmy
<v Speaker 2>Jay told Jimmy to be nice. Okay, Now let me
<v Speaker 2>break this down for you a little bit further into
<v Speaker 2>a fine powder. My best guess for who the fifth
<v Speaker 2>member of the og bloodline is is not Paul, although
<v Speaker 2>he'll be in tow. I hope he is, But physically
<v Speaker 2>I think it's Cody Roads. I think Cody Rhodes, who
<v Speaker 2>has softened his his abrasiveness for Roman after they teamed
<v Speaker 2>up against Solo and his crew at the last plee,
<v Speaker 2>or a bad Blood rather, he is a little bit
<v Speaker 2>more of a soft spot for Roman, and I think
<v Speaker 2>it's probably Cody Roads. Now on the other side of
<v Speaker 2>the coin, you have potentially The Rock. I think he's
<v Speaker 2>a front runner. Do I think it's likely fifty to fifty.
<v Speaker 2>It's a cop out, but I feel like fifty to
<v Speaker 2>fifty is the chance with The Rock. You know how
<v Speaker 2>his schedule goes and how he can do this, and
<v Speaker 2>then he can't, then he's rumored to show up and
<v Speaker 2>he doesn't and all the rest.
<v Speaker 3>I mean.
<v Speaker 2>So I'd say fifty to fifty is The Rock's chance
<v Speaker 2>of being that fifth partner for Solo Soca. But it
<v Speaker 2>would create a hell of a perfect program movie forward,
<v Speaker 2>because remember Survivors series is not just about the destination
<v Speaker 2>like most Knights, it is about what they're planning the
<v Speaker 2>seeds for moving forward, and that is for the Rock,
<v Speaker 2>Cody versus The Rock. Those two have yet to lock horns,
<v Speaker 2>and they teased it upon the rocks dismissal from WWE,
<v Speaker 2>you know, after Bad Blood and then he left. But
<v Speaker 2>I think with the Rock there in that match, you
<v Speaker 2>could really start a Cody Rock program continue it, and
<v Speaker 2>I think that that's what they'll probably do here. Plus,
<v Speaker 2>the workload is really it's dispersed at a point where
<v Speaker 2>you don't need to be in tip top shape to
<v Speaker 2>perform the match. Yes, it's a brutal match, but The
<v Speaker 2>Rock's not gonna take any crazy bumps anyway. So I
<v Speaker 2>think with that said, Rock and Cody are probably the
<v Speaker 2>members for their respective team, and then we'll have to
<v Speaker 2>see where the Rock's loyalty lies. Does it truly lie
<v Speaker 2>with Solo? Does he side with Roman? Does he turn
<v Speaker 2>on Roman? Is he just only gonna have an issue
<v Speaker 2>with Cody Rhodes. There's a lot to discuss on that front,
<v Speaker 2>and we'll get our answers in just a few weeks.
<v Speaker 2>So all right, let's continue, And again, if you guys
<v Speaker 2>have any theories, if you have any theories as to
<v Speaker 2>who that fifth member could be other than the two
<v Speaker 2>I mentioned of Cody and the Rock for both bloodlines,
<v Speaker 2>who are the two members? Who are the two besides
<v Speaker 2>Cody and the Rock? Who could they be? I want
<v Speaker 2>to hear your ideas. There are some plausible ones out there,
<v Speaker 2>but these are the most likely in my mind. All right,
<v Speaker 2>let's continue. So we have my god. Okay, Kobe Kingston
<v Speaker 2>and Kovie Kingston with Xavier Woods versus Pete Done. And
<v Speaker 2>this match was nine minutes. Pete dun beats Kofee in
<v Speaker 2>nine minutes and hit He won via the bitter end.
<v Speaker 2>After the match, Woods was helping Kingston at ringside and
<v Speaker 2>still trying to make his point. Kingston shoved him and
<v Speaker 2>they bickered. Okay, if you guys haven't seen it yet,
<v Speaker 2>Pete done through some of the worst ground and pound
<v Speaker 2>punches I've ever seen in the history of pro wrestling.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it was horrific. I didn't catch it until
<v Speaker 2>I saw it on TikTok because I wasn't watching Raw
<v Speaker 2>live and I'm like, was this a did this happen?
<v Speaker 2>You know how many like five years ago or something.
<v Speaker 2>Where did we get this footage?
<v Speaker 3>Oh?
<v Speaker 2>No, it was from that night. Pete done through some
<v Speaker 2>just god awful, inexcusably bad, grounded and pound punches on
<v Speaker 2>Kofe Kingston horrific, embarrassing. I mean, imagine watching with a
<v Speaker 2>friend who's trying to get back into wrestling, and you're
<v Speaker 2>sitting on the couch with them, and you're like, you're
<v Speaker 2>watching this match and you just want to you just
<v Speaker 2>wanna slither off the couch into oblivion. I mean it's embarrassing. So,
<v Speaker 2>I mean, now I don't want to get Unpete do
<v Speaker 2>one too much, but this was just a.
<v Speaker 3>Bad night for him.
<v Speaker 2>Beat just bad, bad, bad bad. So we're still waiting
<v Speaker 2>for the official split of the New Day that seems
<v Speaker 2>to be coming. We're getting closer and closer. It's teasing
<v Speaker 2>me with its presence. I'm waiting for it, but clearly
<v Speaker 2>WW isn't just yet. All right, it also continues to
<v Speaker 2>split again Kofe and Xavier. All right, So we had
<v Speaker 2>commercials for the Elimination Chamber, which is taking place in Toronto,
<v Speaker 2>Canada this year. So congrats with the Toronto crowd for
<v Speaker 2>snagging that pl that's ronson. Reid came out and he
<v Speaker 2>delivered a promo. He told Seth that if he wants revenge,
<v Speaker 2>he was waiting for him in the ring, and Reid
<v Speaker 2>said the only thing Rollins had to do was come out,
<v Speaker 2>and of course he did. He did, and we know
<v Speaker 2>what happened after that with the brawl that ensued thereafter.
<v Speaker 2>So I have no issue with that either. Fund program,
<v Speaker 2>fun program. Okay, Damian Priest and Ludwig Kaiser. Priest beats
<v Speaker 2>Kaiser in seven minutes and forty seconds after he hit
<v Speaker 2>South of Heaven, a very decisive victory. After the match,
<v Speaker 2>we had Gunther walk onto the stage and looked at
<v Speaker 2>the ring, and Barrett said it was a pence pensive
<v Speaker 2>and nervous looking Gunther. In question if he could beat
<v Speaker 2>this version of Priest. I will say Gunther did emote
<v Speaker 2>some very convincing facials for fear or concern or anxiety.
<v Speaker 2>He definitely did. Do I think there's any real threat
<v Speaker 2>to his championship? No, not for some time. That's my
<v Speaker 2>best guess. It could be wrong, but I think that's
<v Speaker 2>probably probably accurate now. Gunther here or rather we have Kaiser,
<v Speaker 2>who continues to also waffle back and forth with loyalty
<v Speaker 2>to Gunther, and Gunther continues to accept it, not accept it.
<v Speaker 2>Has a hairpin trigger with Kaiser. What are they doing
<v Speaker 2>with Gunther? What are they doing with Kaiser? Kaiser's there,
<v Speaker 2>he's not, He's on his own. Gunster gets mad with him,
<v Speaker 2>then they're good. It's weird. I don't know where they're
<v Speaker 2>going with this. It's not a complaint, just to kind
<v Speaker 2>of like, hey, guys, you know you need to kind
<v Speaker 2>of figure out where you're going here. So anyway, let's continue.
<v Speaker 2>We had a highlights of bron Breaker and Shamus fighting
<v Speaker 2>to a three minute draw on Speed and then fighting afterward,
<v Speaker 2>and that's when we had Intercontinental Champion bron Breaker get
<v Speaker 2>interview by Kathy Kelly. He said he's looking to expand
<v Speaker 2>his trophy case and said that as the fastest w
<v Speaker 2>W wrestler in history, this title speed title interests him,
<v Speaker 2>and Breaker complained about Seamus getting in his way. Well,
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's true that Seamus is in the way
<v Speaker 2>of Breaker in some sense, but do we really need
<v Speaker 2>to harp on how fast Braun Breaker is? Are we
<v Speaker 2>really gonna harp on it. Did we not get enough
<v Speaker 2>incessant statistical reminders from Coal over the weeks and months
<v Speaker 2>that he can run the ropes at twenty seven miles
<v Speaker 2>an hour, some insane, some insane, in human number, which
<v Speaker 2>is very impressive, but that doesn't help you win championships.
<v Speaker 2>All right, execution does, fan support does, but it's just
<v Speaker 2>my you know, my cup of tea here, okay. Seamus
<v Speaker 2>then walked on and said Breaker has a lot of arrogance.
<v Speaker 2>Since Seamus said it was disrespectful because he's been with
<v Speaker 2>the company for fifteen years compared to Breakers fifteen minutes,
<v Speaker 2>and Seamus recalled putting his foot on Johns and his
<v Speaker 2>chest when he won a world title and that said
<v Speaker 2>that was arrogance. But Seamus challenged Breaker to put the
<v Speaker 2>title on the line that has eluded him, and Breaker
<v Speaker 2>said he didn't listen to a word that Seamus said,
<v Speaker 2>but he'd give a title shot because nothing would please
<v Speaker 2>him more than kicking his old ass. Seamus told him
<v Speaker 2>to shine up the title.
<v Speaker 3>Because it's coming home, and.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, anybody again with a working knowledge of wrestling
<v Speaker 2>right now knew that Seamus is not in the position
<v Speaker 2>in his career to be at the front of anything
<v Speaker 2>really in terms of current product, he doesn't really his
<v Speaker 2>character doesn't really lend itself to being an intercontinental champion
<v Speaker 2>right now. He's a legacy star that is underappreciated generally
<v Speaker 2>as a whole in this company. But he's never really
<v Speaker 2>going to be that guy anymore. Those those days I
<v Speaker 2>think are gone. All right, So the Miss is walking
<v Speaker 2>back stage. He was greeted by the Final Testament. Mis
<v Speaker 2>told Carry and Cross he was going to go to
<v Speaker 2>Adam Pierce's office and ask for a leave of absence,
<v Speaker 2>and Cross said Miss gave him nothing. He questioned, if
<v Speaker 2>they're Wyat six, just let him go. Miss said he
<v Speaker 2>settled his business with the Wyatt six. He said he's
<v Speaker 2>a better man now than they, and they let him go.
<v Speaker 2>Miss told Cross that he should move on. Cross put
<v Speaker 2>up Paul Ellering and blamed the miss. Cross asked if
<v Speaker 2>Mis remembered when he said it was going to break
<v Speaker 2>his legs, and Cross had quote aop and achem and
<v Speaker 2>Raizar grabbed the Miss and bring him to the stage
<v Speaker 2>and then to the ring. Scarlett got the mic and
<v Speaker 2>handed it to the Miz. Cross said the Miz was
<v Speaker 2>lying to him and it added that the story doesn't
<v Speaker 2>add up. Cross shoved Miss down and asked him where
<v Speaker 2>the Wyatts were. That's when the Wyots come out. It
<v Speaker 2>started with Uncle Howdie, Eric Rowan, Nikki Cross, Dexter Loomis,
<v Speaker 2>and Joe Gacy and they the group entered the ring
<v Speaker 2>and went face to face with the Final Testament. So
<v Speaker 2>that's where we're headed. W six versus Final Testament. And yes,
<v Speaker 2>some of you may look at this as a step
<v Speaker 2>down for the WI six, I don't because what are
<v Speaker 2>they really running on here anyway? Bray's old music and
<v Speaker 2>the memory of Bray.
<v Speaker 3>That's it.
<v Speaker 2>This is what you're running on. It's not sustainable. It's
<v Speaker 2>not And right now the Final Testament needs help. They've
<v Speaker 2>gotten more airtime in the last two shows than in
<v Speaker 2>the last two months or more. The Final Testament is
<v Speaker 2>in a good spot right now because they are People
<v Speaker 2>are getting to understand who and what they are. On
<v Speaker 2>top of the fact that the Miz put on an
<v Speaker 2>Academy Award winning, Academy Award winning performance with pretending not
<v Speaker 2>to be in cahoots with the Final Testament and setting
<v Speaker 2>up the Wyatts to taking chairs to the back just
<v Speaker 2>well executed all around and continued to solidify to the
<v Speaker 2>Miz in the heel role, which he should be, so
<v Speaker 2>he attacked Paul or Paul Hyman. Eric Rowan Howdy looked
<v Speaker 2>at Cross and left, and the Final Testament members were
<v Speaker 2>worked over by the Wide Six worked over the Wide
<v Speaker 2>Six with the help from the Miz, and the finish
<v Speaker 2>here was Cross closing out the beat down by slamming
<v Speaker 2>Uncle Howdie to the mat.
<v Speaker 3>So there we are.
<v Speaker 2>It's kind of a weird combination with the Miz and
<v Speaker 2>the Final Testament. I don't know what to make of this.
<v Speaker 2>It's a weird oil water situation. Maybe it'll change, but
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how to feel about the Miss and
<v Speaker 2>the Final Testament. It's weird at this moment. Doesn't jive.
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't jive on paper, and their on screen chemistry
<v Speaker 2>is substandard at best. But it's fine for the story
<v Speaker 2>we're telling right now. That's not going to last long.
<v Speaker 2>I'm okay with that.
<v Speaker 3>I'm okay with that.
<v Speaker 2>All right, Well, let's hear we've got the women's tag
<v Speaker 2>team title match, which I already talked about. There's also
<v Speaker 2>video going around post show of all the women dancing
<v Speaker 2>on stage extremely awkwardly. It's just it's it's not I
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't recommend you look it up if you want to
<v Speaker 2>feel embarrassed, you know, and you're thinking to yourself, hey,
<v Speaker 2>I haven't had my daily dose of embarrassment. Well that's
<v Speaker 2>one right there for you. It's just it's on TikTok.
<v Speaker 2>It's not on the network or on peacock or anything
<v Speaker 2>like that or on YouTube. It's just all four women
<v Speaker 2>after the show, dancing on the on the on the stage,
<v Speaker 2>and it's painful to watch.
<v Speaker 3>It's painful. But I don't want to get on.
<v Speaker 2>I feel myself going down another road of Jade car Gillen.
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to. I do wish her the best
<v Speaker 2>in uh in what she does and if need be,
<v Speaker 2>all future endeavors. Not advocating for her to get fired,
<v Speaker 2>but you know, at some point, sink or swim, Baby,
<v Speaker 2>sink or swim.
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