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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: We bring in Brady Quinn, Fox College football analyst, former Notre Dame quarterback. Also the show that precedes hours on Fox Sports, The Two Pros and a Cup of Joe. He's going to be at the Big House. It's Ohio State Michigan Saturday, nine am Eastern is when they get started, big noon kickoff. How would you compare Notre Dame USC to Michigan and Ohio State rivalry.

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Speaker 3: Well, I grew up in Columbus, Ohio, So I've got a pretty good idea of the differences between its two only because of the nature of both schools, how close they are in proximity, the types of players that they traditionally recruit in both states, you know, the top players, and so it's just an entirely different feel between its two because they're both two Midwest schools. And so it's not a battle of culture where you get that a little bit with you know, Catholicism and Notre Dame in the Midwest versus like the so cow laid bag, like let's go out and surf and I don't want to believe in anything, or I believe in everything. So it's a very stark contrast between the two fan bases for SC Notre Dame versus what you get in Michigan in Ohio State. I mean, these are two programs and two schools know that you know each other so well. There's so much history behind it, just in regards to even the coaching staffs and all of that. So I would say with Notre Dame SC, there's tradition, there's history, there's both.

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Speaker 4: Schools kind of honoring, at least used to.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if that tradition will continue, but honoring kind of the differences between the two.

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Speaker 4: With Ohio State Michigan, I don't feel like either or honoring anything.

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Speaker 3: I feel like it's a he it's you against us, and that's all that matters this one day every year, and depending on the outcome, we're never going to forget it for theer in sixty four days, regardless of how well our team does in the playoff, for even winning a national championship.

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Speaker 2: Michigan's an oh by the way, what nine and two I get they don't feel threatening, but you know, in this game it does. I mean we've seen where better teams, better records, doesn't matter how dangerous is Michigan in this game.

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Speaker 4: I think they're more dangerous than last year. I mean, they're playing at home.

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Speaker 3: They've got a freshman quarterback who oozes with talent and ability, and he's started to develop chemistry with this freshman wide receiver Andrew marsh McCauley's coming along. So the passing game has kind of seen more bright spots of late than bad spots.

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Speaker 4: So I would say if you're looking at this matchup.

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Speaker 3: After last year, when I think Davis warrenth threw for like sixty yards and they're playing in Columbus, they were the biggest underdogs they've ever been in this rivalry. Yeah, this year, they've got a much better team and should have a better chance of imposing their will and doing what they do every single time these two teams have played over the last four years head into five years, is Michigan's going to try to make you play this game in a phone booth, and they're gonna try to win the trenches. They're gonna limit the amount of possessions of Ohio State gets, and they're gonna try to eliminate guys like Jeremiah Smith and Carnelzate and the big playability of this offense, and say we want you to try to run the football and be better than us. We're not gonna let you win this game throwing to two of the best players in the entire country will be first round draft picks, and we'll see if you can do it.

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Speaker 2: If he would answer, what would you ask Lane Kiffin today?

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Speaker 3: I would ask him what is the one determining factor in where he's going to go next?

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Speaker 4: Like, what's the number one thing you're are prioritizing most?

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Speaker 2: But what do you think it is?

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Speaker 3: I'm not a big offer, one hundred million dollars contract reportedly, Dan so I would say it's it's hard for any human being to turn down what is generational wealth. You're offered that sort of opportunity.

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Speaker 2: But all knows they're going to match that, so let's take money out of this. So then yet, but just now it still comes down to money with nil and collectives, you know, the roster, all of that. But is this just I can get more talent? There is he going to fall? Not fall the victim too? But Brian Kelly couldn't win a national title, you know, in his mind at Notre Dame, So I'm going to LSU where I've got all of this talent. Is that what this comes down to, is Lane Kiffin going to follow?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I mean I think if you look at that decision Brian Brian Kelly and retrospect, now you kind of looking back on it like, well else kind of foolish. But I think there's a star contrast between Lane Kiff and Brian Kelly in the sense that like Lane Kiffin is willing to recruit. I mean, half the time he's driving around in a nice car with a recruit in the back, they're filming.

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Speaker 4: Some sort of video. Brian Kelly didn't want to do that.

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Speaker 3: And so if you look at what makes Lane successful at Ole miss and what can make him successful at LSU or Florida, it's the fact that not only do you just really have to I mean, you can recruit nationally for a number of players, but you don't have to go too far in that region or in that state before you find some of the best players in the country.

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Speaker 4: So if it's not.

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Speaker 3: Money and it really comes down to your best chance of winning a national championship, I think you'd have to look at the track record of LSU head coaches and say it's probably LSU.

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Speaker 4: Then now is could it get messy?

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Speaker 3: Of course, when you have a good opener, getting involved with the conversation around the head coach had that institution. But I do think if you look at the track record of at Orizaran, Les Miles, Nicksaban, if you're a Lane Kiffen and you're saying, maybe we've hit our ceiling at Old Miss, then LSU would be that next job that comes up, and I feel like would give him the best chance.

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Speaker 5: To do so.

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Speaker 2: If USC could hire Lane Kiffen, do you think they would do that?

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Speaker 4: Well, let me ask you this.

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Speaker 3: Over the last four years, all right, Lane Kiffin's record, I believe so off the top of my head, is like thirty nine and eleven. He's got two on one in bowl games, never won a conference champion ship, and the highest he's finished in the polls is eleventh. It's probably gonna be different this year. If you look at Lincoln Riley's record, I think he's thirty four and seventeen, also two and one goal games high Seed's finished his twelfth in the final poll.

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Speaker 4: How different really are they?

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Speaker 2: It was brought up to me last night by a college source saying, I'm asking you the.

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Speaker 4: Question, like, how different are they?

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Speaker 2: It feels like Lane overachieved and Lincoln underachieved.

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Speaker 3: But doesn't it take a job like a blue blood like sc then to determine whether someone over underachieved. Like it's kind of all upside and old miss unless you just completely flam out. And that's where if you go to an LSU and you're not meeting expectations, are all even throwing at another job that he's not up for. But like Penn State, Penn State moved on from James frank because they din't feel like they could win the big game. So what's the next head coach going to be expected to do? Every top ten game, every top five game, they're expected to win because because that's what you were brought in here to do. It wasn't to win ten to eleven, you know, twelve games.

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Speaker 2: And mistake Brady in retrospect, now you've got to find somebody who's better than James Franklin.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say one the timing of it, yes, I didn't feel like that was the right timing to move on from James Franklin, especially the way the team's playing now.

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Speaker 3: They're obviously playing much more inspired football last two games they've won, and you know they were even close, you know, previously to that. But it just it felt like it was a little early to throw in the towel, even though they were on the skid. And I think, if you're going to move on from a guy like James Franklin, you better have that next guy like loaded ready to go and not be like, well, this is who our top target is.

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Speaker 4: It's like, no, that this should be like already done.

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Speaker 3: And I understand there's a lot of ways that this needs to work, and that's probably not the proper way of doing it, which is one of the reasons why I think the time was terrible. Like they could have waited till at the end of the season. They could have waited to see how things played out. I mean, now it kind of looks like maybe you shouldn't have fired him after if Matt wll was your target.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you might he's going to win and then keep his job. It felt like this was booster impatient and they're like, you know, we're not gonna we got to start winning these games. We're not winning these games, and you know, the shelf life for him at Penn State was expiring.

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Speaker 4: But isn't that the truth of what college football is right now?

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Speaker 2: Yestient.

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Speaker 4: It's not run by well, it's not run by presidents and ads. Yes, it's run by boosters.

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Speaker 3: I mean, when you're talking about who's ultimately funding these rosters, it's the rich guy who what's school there that wants to be a part of the process. That party played fantasy and is like, you know what, I think I can figure this stuff out. I watched enough you know whatever recruiting website and seeing the huddle highlights, and I think this kid's a really good player. So you know, I'm gonna put a bunch of money in here. So that's essentially what this has become, has it?

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Speaker 2: Not talking to Brady Quinn Big noon kickoff, It'll be at the Big House at Ohio State. Michigan. They start their coverage at nine am Eastern, go to noon Eastern. Unfucked. I'm not going to name any names, but I was told that there is a school that's getting really good at stealing signs. Now, this isn't a Michigan Connor Stallion's This is actually somebody watching on the other sidelines and legally stealing signs. Have you heard about this?

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Speaker 3: Well, I had heard about this forever ago, because even when you're a backup quarterback and you're on the sideline, you're trying to steal signals during a game.

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Speaker 4: I mean, that's that's part of the game and ship.

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Speaker 3: If I know that we can shift her motion as an offense to something and I can dictate or predict what your coverage is, of course you're going to steal every sign possible, whether it's from the sideline or from the player.

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Speaker 4: You know, these defensive guys, yes, not the sharpest tools in the shed.

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Speaker 3: So usually they'll be something like, hey, hey, you're like, oh is that a tee for to Tampa?

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Speaker 4: Oh okay, great, Yeah, we've got you here. Or hey, we're gonna we're gonna, we're gonna we're gonna lock locking.

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Speaker 3: Oh oh, so it's man to man because you're locking man to man of that guy, gotcha, Like, of course we're going.

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Speaker 4: To use that to our advantage.

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Speaker 3: Which, by the way, you know, the whole sign stealing thing with Conner Stiens in Michigan, to me, it was a Pandora's box that no one really wanted to open because there was a lot of teams doing it. I think since Connor Steyan's has left and he's been more emboldened to talk about it. You know, he's trading this information with other teams and they were willing to trade with him.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it is probably the secret to college football that not many people want to address. It's one of the reasons why I think they needed to coach the quarterback communication. Uh, probably a long time ago when they could have implemented it to eliminate some of the signs signaling, which would would help. Right if you're you know, communicating it into your player, there really should be much signing going on unless you're playing up tempo where you get the line and you call play and you know you're use a double caateence to something of that you know nature.

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Speaker 2: It feels like Andrew luck is really really close to being the head coach at Stanford, Like this was almost a prep year for him. What do you think it's.

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Speaker 3: A big time commitment. You know, I don't know Andrew personally. Obviously respect him a ton as a former player.

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Speaker 2: He's got time. What else is he doing? But but I.

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Speaker 3: Also think is being the general manager of Stanford's a huge investment of time too. And if you're trying to raise a family and get all these things going on, like I don't know, do you do you want to have to, you know, sacrifice essentially raising your kids to raise someone else's That's what it feels like being a college football head coach is nowadays.

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Speaker 4: When you include that, you're not just coaching.

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Speaker 3: You know, you're you're dealing with recruiting, you're dealing with talent evaluation, you're dealing with nil and fundraising and there's a lot of hats that college football head coaches. Where does he need to invite that into his life? Does he want to? And also I think there's always this thought too, if you go back to your alma mater and you coach there and everything's gonna work out and it's.

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Speaker 4: Going to be perfect, Well, why isn't he does that it doesn't work out?

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Speaker 3: And what was if it flames out, that doesn't kind of tarnish his feelings about it or maybe how how he's agree.

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Speaker 2: I never hire somebody you can't fire, and we've seen that with basketball with Patrick Ewing, Chris mallin Clyde Dregsler going to bring somebody back, and there's going to be that day that they go just not working out here.

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Speaker 3: And I also think there's an element of thought that like, even though you need to understand the landscape that you're entering into as a head coach, if they're hiring you this because things weren't going well and oftentimes you got to create some sort of change and maybe you need the outside of the box thinking that comes from someone else who's been somewhere else. Like right now, I don't know why Bob Chas he's not getting more interviews or discussion for a major power for head coaching job, Like if we want to keep using Kurt Signetti and they turn around they've been able to make in two years time, and we're all trying to figure out how they do it.

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Speaker 4: It's like, well, the guy knows how to coach because.

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Speaker 3: He did it at lower levels with less resources and less talent everything else, and he's been able to bring some of the players to Indiana but also bring a lot of what he was able to do been prior years with lesser teams to have success.

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Speaker 4: On a higher level.

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Speaker 3: Why are we looking at Bob Chesney like because he's just done the same exact thing to get to the point at James Madison, and he's continued on what Kurt Signetti did there, and yet like we're not hearing as much buzz about it.

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Speaker 4: So I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I think State, maybe Penn State, maybe Penn State.

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Speaker 3: Penn State would be a job that I think, you know, would make a lot of sense for again, someone like Bob Chesney, someone like Jeff Mounkin. You know, you want someone who's been able to build a program that's able to overachieve with less and and those two guys, without a doubt fall in that category. I know, arms not having going to be year this year, to go back last year and the season that they had.

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Speaker 2: All right only be with this. Is it better for the Chiefs or the Cowboys to win tomorrow?

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, did the Chiefs really have much of an option just because of how much Parry.

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Speaker 2: And Howl like the storyline? Well, storylines, I.

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Speaker 3: Think you'd say it's probably better for Dallas, right, I mean, you get two storylines coming out of that. Everyone expects that the Chiefs are going to be in the mix. If they drop one, how many more can they afford to lose. And on the flip side, Dallas kind of getting back into that conversation. And also it's the Dallas Cowboys, like Jerry Jones is probably gonna say something wild out there.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it could be about football, could be about Thanksgiving dinner.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 4: Maybe he's not a fan of Thanksgiving me. I don't know. Maybe you fall into that category. Maybe you're one of those like, ah, it's not really for me.

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Speaker 3: I eat turkey once a year unless it's on a sandwich, you know, So maybe he's not a Thanksgiving yet.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Safe travels. Are you gonna you get booed when you go to Michigan, don't you?

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Speaker 3: Yes, there's a there's a decent amount of booing. I let them know though. You know, only started one game back in two thousand and five in Michigan, and we make sure we got out of there with the victory. So I know it's been a while. But you know a lot of these a lot of his young cats don't know history, such the young kids that talk trash. The older fans will say, yeah, you can't really say anything, and then Urban walks out there and they all boot him and they're just like, you can't say anything either, And then and then and the wider walks out there, he's like, yeah, we beat you when you played it twos.

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Speaker 4: You can only say, so there's there really shouldn't be any trash talking.

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Speaker 3: But they're Michigan fans, so they're gonna stick their nose about you, and they're gonna make sure they talk down to you and act like, you know, they won the national championship last season, even though it was actually Ohio State.

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Speaker 2: Safe travels, play nice.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, We'll do our best. Happy thanks to Thank you, buddy.

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Speaker 2: That's Brady Quinn.

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Speaker 2: More phone calls coming up. Our buddy Ross Tucker in an hour from now. He's got Iowa and Nebraska tomorrow. Believe that's a noon Eastern kickoff. Mike Golig, junior, co host of Golick and Golick on FanDuel's Sports Network, former Notre Dame offensive lineman and back on the program. Great to see you, Bud him. Give me the most must win game of the weekend for you?

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Speaker 4: Ooh, the most college or pro?

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Speaker 2: What do you want to either one? The most must win is who I.

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Speaker 7: Would say the most must win this week, and to me feels like the game for Ryan Day. Like Ohio States accomplished a lot, this team would still be in the playoff even with the loss, but considering the recent run they've been on and everything else that's finally mounted in his favor, this is kind.

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Speaker 5: Of the last remaining box to check.

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Speaker 7: And it's strange because this year I feel so much better about Ohio State provided their best wide receivers are healthy, even though last year going into this game they were favored by more it was a far worse Michigan team than the one they're going against this year. But I just think the matchup in a bunch of the key areas, specifically Ohio States defense and what Matt Patricia has done versus a freshman quarterback for Michigan, even at home where he's been better this season, it feels like a tough one. So I think if you're Ryan Day, hey, you've got the fan base back on your side after the run you went on last year. If you really want to stamp your place now in the lore of this rivalry and at the helm of this team, I think you got to win this weekend.

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Speaker 2: Do you imagine if Michigan won?

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Speaker 7: Oh, it's I mean. And the thing is, we went through this last year where people were legitimately it felt like around Columbus starting to talk about Ryan Day's job in a way that feels insane for all the rest of us that see what Ohio State has, what he's accomplished, But you understand those games mean more, and those pain points in these rivalry series are always tough to come by. So yeah, I don't know what it would do. He's They're not going to do anything because he won the championship and still could this year, but it just would make things really awkward of the Thanksgiving dinner table this year and next year if it happened.

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Speaker 2: Now you, of course, we're an offensive lineman at Notre Dame and probably you know keep an eye on Notre Dame far more than most of us. But I'm wondering, wondering if this style of running the football to a national title, can they do that?

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Speaker 7: I think they can, and I think doing that is easier because you also have a quarterback that's now been able to stretch the field and the way that's different Like last year, Dan looking at Notre Dame when Riley Lennon was the quarterback that was a Hey, there are no frills and no questions about how we're going to do this. We're going to hand the ball off a bunch of these running backs. Our quarterback when we get into fourth and one is going to be a human battering ram and he is even going to erase the edges. I think back to the Georgia game last year in the CFP run for Notre Dame where Riley Leonard gets through the perimeter and against sec caliber NFL caliber athletes like Jalen Walker, who is going to go on against the Falcons. He's erasing the edge against them and finding the perimeter. So that team was that there were I said it was masters of the obvious last year for Notre Dame, and everything they did this year, there's a little bit more sleight of hand because CJ cars come in and stretch the field. For this team, the explosive play rate, their ability to hit downfield with players like Malati Fields, the transfer wide receiver from Virginia, I think have put defenses in a conundrum. And look no further than what USC decided to do against Notre Dame when it came to South Bend.

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Speaker 5: Notre Dame with two.

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Speaker 7: Prolific running backs runners up for the Heisman right now, and USC said, we would rather not have your passing attack beat us, So we're gonna put two safeties deep. We're gonna play back and try and take away the passing attack. And as a result, Notre Dame handed off the ball over and over again and broke their will in that game. Because USC had to do the math problem ended up guessing wrong. And that's the ability Notre Dame has. This year that makes it different, But the engine that still makes it all go is Jeremiah Love and I absolutely think he's a great enough player for them to ride to a title.

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Speaker 2: If Lane Kiffen would answer the question, what question would you ask, Hey, what.

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Speaker 5: Are we doing here? Bud?

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Speaker 7: Like I think outside of you, what Dan? The obvious of what are we doing? Is why now?

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Speaker 8: Like?

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Speaker 7: Why would you force the issue on this now? And is he at the helm of that? Because we've seen plenty of instances of coaches that we knew were kind of room for these certain things play out. What they've got going on, and the way that this has all played out really publicly with Old Miss, to me, I always feel worse for the players, like that, What a disservice to the players on this team right now, everything that's happened with this situation, whether it's the Old Miss Brass that forced the ultimatum, whether it was just too much to bear internally, you got a team that's in the top ten of college football that we haven't talked about on the field and god knows how long because we're all wondering if their coach is even going to be with them after the rivalry game.

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Speaker 5: This weekend.

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Speaker 7: So I just wonder, especially with the opportunity ahead of them in a college football world that's infinitely more accessible in terms of who can win the title.

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Speaker 4: You had one of.

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Speaker 7: Those teams, and now it seems like everyone involved might be willing to walk away from the table and let that team go into the playoff with an interim head coach or a head coach that knows he's going to be gone to greener past years. The whole situation, it just is bizarre, and I feel bad for the players who will put so much into the season and have had that certainly upended by this, but could potentially be even more upended after this weekend.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I wonder if it comes out if he tells the team prior to that he's leaving, I would say put it on the players to vote if they want Lane Kiffin to be their coach after this for the playoffs, even though you know the committee made ding them if Lane Kiffin is not their head coach.

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Speaker 7: And yeah, yeah, sorry sorry about that, Dan, but no, I saw that point made.

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Speaker 4: And I don't know.

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Speaker 7: We've seen the committee ding teams for interesting things, but I do think that's the right approach it should be on the players if it comes down to that decision, and if they're comfortable enough with that and say, hey, you still give us the best chance to win this season, especially considering a bunch of those players could follow him if he goes. This is the Dan Agent college football we live in, where you could pluck the core of your roster and help reset the foundation elsewhere there might be a little bit less Oh, you're leaving us here than there used to be, and so maybe with some of that mercenary mindset, these guys could be more comfortable with that the most.

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Speaker 2: We're talking to Mike Gulli, junior co host of Golick and Golick on FanDuel's Sports Network. Yeah, just trying to figure this out of these How did we get to the point where you're somebody's talking to somebody about your next job during a season. I know what happens, but why did it have to happen this way? Why couldn't this wait until the end of the season or at least when you get into you know, the playoff, Like, I don't know, it just it feels like coaches don't want distractions, but the coaches created the distraction and that's what you know. That has to be a better way to do this. Mike there does I think all of it to me just boils down to like the pressure now, Don't get me wrong, like some of the way that this has been framed around Lane Kiffin, like he's got a role in this too. This is not just something that's happening to him. So I don't want to use this as like a way to make him a victim of circumstance that he is, at least in part helped create. But I do think this all I'm from the pressure to win now in college that leads to the massive buyout that we've seen because all these coaches understand, Hey, especially in this day and age, when you can come in an overhaul roster in one year with the portal, I got to come in and show your results now, because if not in two or three years at these places, you wind up like Brian Kelly, having to fight for your buyout with the school that's trying to go back and fire you for cause for ways that don't make sense.

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Speaker 7: And so what does that mean? I have to get in because the transfer portal window did used to open during the playoffs in December and now opens in January.

00:24:30
Speaker 5: So we've got to get.

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Speaker 7: Ahead start on that class. I've got to get a head start on recruiting the next group of guys they're going to be in high school, and just get the things going here at a time where we've created more postseason than ever before, so it's going to affect more games when you pull out and do that. And so I think all of that that urgency of hey, if I'm going to take this next big opportunity forever, it's got to start tonight, Like we've got to get going on this now, because if we don't, we're already behind this ever churning machine. And if you fall behind too far, now all of a sudden you're the guy with the massive buyout getting ready to go on college game.

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Speaker 2: Help me understand this. I know we want to protect the NFL players, We've changed the kickoff rule. Do we not want to protect the college players? Why don't we have the same kickoff formation in college as we do in the NFL.

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Speaker 5: Dan, It's a.

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Speaker 7: Great question, and I have no idea college in so many ways is resistant to doing things anywhere close to the NFL level. In like weird little bits of minute details, and I'd agree. Now, maybe the people at large in college, although it's not like you've got an NFLPA in college that can commission studies and the NFL Central body, Like, no one runs this in college football, and so no one. Maybe the conference heads could do it within the big tag of the SEC or the ACC, but like there's no one here that's going to amass the data that cares enough about it to then try and get it implemented across the whole sport, Like this is part of the difficulty in college football of having no one in charge of anything that's going on. Because you're right, if that at the highest level of football is something they felt was necessary in one of the most violent plays in the sport, then yeah, it would to me make an overwhelming amount of sense for player safety reasons, for continuity, reasons for these guys going to the next level. Like your job is to win games in college, but I do think if you can do it in such a way that helps prepare guys for the biggest job interview of their life, hey, that's probably not a bad deal either overall structurally, So your guest as good as mine.

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Speaker 2: At your peak could you take down a turkey dinner?

00:26:35
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, absolutely. At my peak, I was a bottomless pit. I was a bunch of raccoons in a trench code, not just one. So yeah, no, I was about that life.

00:26:46
Speaker 2: But then you got your dad and your brother Jake is even bigger than every you guys.

00:26:52
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was a.

00:26:53
Speaker 7: Competition for resources at the table every year in the goal of family Thanksgiving, Like.

00:26:58
Speaker 4: There was no room for manners or the korum.

00:27:00
Speaker 7: You just had to get in there and get what you thought was yours established dominance at the table, or else you were going to be sitting there with a plate that was lacking around everybody else who was enjoying themselves. So I like to think that was where the competitive fire was born, not on the athletic field, but just having to scrap it out for food at home.

00:27:20
Speaker 2: Happy Thanksgiving, Good to talk to you, Thank you, Mike, Happy thanksgetting to appreciate it. Mike Golick, junior co host of Golick and Golick on FanDuel Sports Network.

00:27:29
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00:27:41
Speaker 2: Ross Tucker CBS Sports Westwood One college football analyst, and you can follow him on social media at Ross Tucker NFL. He was in the booth for the Browns and the Raiders last weekend, and he'll be on the call for Iowa and Nebraska kicking off tomorrow at noon Eastern non CBS. Let's get the important question out of the way. Have you ever eaten a whole turkey?

00:28:04
Speaker 5: No?

00:28:05
Speaker 8: I don't think so, but I think I probably could if I really wanted to, I definitely could have. When I was high school, college of the NFL. I mean, I look back on it now and my wife's still marvels Dan. When we first were in Dallas and Chipotle, that's when Chipotle started. I used to eat two burritos, no problem.

00:28:29
Speaker 5: High school and college.

00:28:30
Speaker 8: I used to go to Subway and get two foot long bmt's biggest medias tastiest. I would get double meat ad bacon and eat two foot longs like I wasn't eating machine for a good ten year period of my life.

00:28:47
Speaker 2: All Right, that's all I wanted to talk to you about. Happy thanksgetting there. Where do you want to start? What's your biggest question mark that will be answered this weekend in the NFL.

00:29:02
Speaker 8: Ooh, that is a really really good one, man. I feel like the NFL did a terrific job with these standalone games the next couple of days. You know, I mean Packers, Lions. I'm not sure I look at them either one of them right now, Dan as super Bowl contenders.

00:29:21
Speaker 5: You know, when I go on all the other.

00:29:22
Speaker 8: Shows all you know, wherever I cheat on you sometimes I do go on other shows from time to time they'll.

00:29:28
Speaker 5: Say, who are the legit super Bowl contenders?

00:29:30
Speaker 8: And I guess right now, I kind of feel like I have a tough time picturing it being anybody other than the Rams or the Eagles in the NFC. And I say that because the Lions and Packers just haven't shown enough consistency for me to picture them winning three playoff games. And even the Seahawks, so I think, are really good. I don't think they're going to win that division. So does that mean I think Sam Darnold's gonna win three road playoff games? I don't, so I think right now it's the Eagles or the Rams. With the Rams pretty clearly I think being the best team in football so that Lions Packers matchup is huge for both those teams. You know, I'm curious to see if the Cowboys can keep this momentum going after the win against the Eagles, whereas the Chiefs finally won a one score game and they look like a good team in that game, and then even you know, tomorrow night Joe Burrow out there and then I can't believe that, I mean, out of all the games, for the Black Friday game to.

00:30:31
Speaker 5: Be eight and three Bears eight and three Eagles.

00:30:33
Speaker 8: I don't know many people were expecting that when that first came out. So kudos tip of the cap to the NFL schedule makers for the standalone game the next couple of.

00:30:43
Speaker 2: Days better for the NFL if the Cowboys win or the Chiefs win.

00:30:48
Speaker 8: Ooh, I think if the Cowboys win, because the Cowboys still.

00:30:55
Speaker 5: Have some more standalone games.

00:30:57
Speaker 8: If they lose, they're pretty much you know, if they lose, they're out of it.

00:31:03
Speaker 5: If they win, then the.

00:31:05
Speaker 8: Following Thursday, they play the Lions on Thursday Night Football be calling that game for west Wood One. Then the Cowboys all of a sudden have a real chance and get interesting. Plus, even if the Chiefs lose. I almost think it makes them more compelling for the rest of the year as they scratch and claw to try to make the playoffs, to try to get a chance to get into the tournament.

00:31:31
Speaker 5: So I think it's better for the NFL.

00:31:32
Speaker 2: If the Cowboys win, Joe Burrow is going to play against the Ravens like they may not make the playoffs. I'm talking about the Bengals. Obviously it's a long shot, but they're going to decide who wins the AFC North because you got the Ravens twice. Now. Chris collins Worth yesterday said he would not bring back Joe Burrow.

00:31:50
Speaker 8: What do you think. I don't think I would either. I don't think I would either. You know, unfortunately, Joe is injury prone. I think last year might have been the only year where he didn't get injured. It's clearly a lost season. Even in this game at Baltimore, you don't have Trey Hendrickson, you don't have t Higgins, and I'm sure Burrow will play well enough in these games that they'll win a couple of them. And you know, I think the fans will appreciate that he's out there playing. He wants to play. But man, he'd better be one hundred percent. Dan, He'd better not be even a little bit compromised, cause I'm gonna be watching that. We all will Thursday night. You know what they're gonna do. They're gonna bring pressure on them, make him move around. This is the NFL, Okay, If they're not sure whether or not you're one hundred percent, they're going.

00:32:45
Speaker 5: To test it. Right.

00:32:46
Speaker 8: Like if I played against a guy and he had a bad arm or had his hand in the cast, I attacked that arm, you know, like I I ran that way.

00:32:55
Speaker 5: I mean, like, if there's a scab in the NFL, you pick it.

00:32:59
Speaker 8: So Joe Burrow better not have a scab because they'll attack it if he does.

00:33:03
Speaker 2: I'm talking to Ross Tucker the Ross Tucker Football Podcast. You can follow him on social media at Ross Tucker NFL. He'll be on the call for Iowa and Nebraska Friday at noon Eastern on CBS. Last weekend, you got to call shud Or Sanders first NFL start. Did he do enough to warrant starting against the Niners this weekend?

00:33:23
Speaker 5: No question? I was impressed, Dan.

00:33:26
Speaker 8: I thought overall it was a very favorable evaluation. He didn't light the world on fire. They didn't need him to. He did have a tremendous throw on the run to Isaiah Bond. I just can't picture Dylan Gabriel making that play. But you know what it was, Dan, Maybe this is me as the former offensive lineman.

00:33:47
Speaker 5: It was the eye test. You know.

00:33:49
Speaker 8: He wasn't drifting out of the back of the pocket. He was stepping up as they encouraged him to do. He was getting rid of the ball pretty quickly. He was poised.

00:33:59
Speaker 5: He was now.

00:34:00
Speaker 8: I don't know why the Raiders didn't blitz him more than they did, but he only took one sack. He got fooled on an interception. That'll happen. I think he thought the guy was buzzing to the flat. They kind of tricked him on that one. But I would say the biggest thing for me was from that second half against the Ravens to this game against the Raiders.

00:34:21
Speaker 5: There was clear strides.

00:34:23
Speaker 8: I mean, he made significant improvement in getting rid of the ball and not taking sacks and not drifting back in the pocket. I, like everybody else, especially Browns fans, I want to see more.

00:34:35
Speaker 5: I want to see how much he improves from start one to start two.

00:34:39
Speaker 2: But you know this feeling as well as anybody. When you go to the line of scrimmage you're an offensive lineman. The difference between I have no idea too. You know, this guy's got a little bit of confidence there, or he can throw the ball downfield. It just felt like he gave his team a lift because they knew that he Dylan Gabriel's not making those twenty yard throws and Shador is not afraid. He's got a better arm, And it just feels like they're a little more threatening now. I know when they got down to the goal line, they got into the red zone, they weren't you know, it wasn't Shador. They were a running football team, which is what it feels like Kevin Stefanski still wants to be.

00:35:18
Speaker 8: Yeah, they went to the wildcat, which, by the way, I feel like, and I said this during the broadcast, that's so demoralizing for the Raiders.

00:35:25
Speaker 5: You know, when the other team says.

00:35:26
Speaker 8: We're gonna tell you right now, there's no chance we're throwing the ball, zero chance, and they still run it right down your throat. That's a little embarrassing if you ask me. Uh, but you're right about shadoor Driver. I'll say this, that was the best the offensive line's played all year, I thought. And it's almost like talking with Joel Buttonio the day before the game.

00:35:49
Speaker 5: They knew that they needed to, you know.

00:35:53
Speaker 8: Rise their level of play to help Shador to give them a chance. But did you see Miles Garrett's face when Shador threw that bomb to bond As By the way, he was getting smashed by Max Crosby. You know, he did enough, and it's almost like his reputation precedes him. They know he had a lot of flashy plays in college that he did Engender and Foster. I think some belief amongst the players, which really goes a long way. Now that can go out of the window quick too. But I think you know, if you think your quarterback gives you a legit chance, and you feel good about your quarterback, it makes a big difference.

00:36:32
Speaker 5: I've been on both sides of that.

00:36:34
Speaker 2: If I told you in August Matthew Stafford would win the NFL MVP, you would have said, what.

00:36:40
Speaker 5: You're an idiot? I mean, Dan, this is how dumb I am.

00:36:45
Speaker 8: On the even Money Betting podcast, all we kept saying is take the under on Stafford passing yards because remember during training camp he didn't do anything. He had a herni a disk in his back. He got an epic. He is having I don't have the stats. Maybe somebody can check me stutt of the day, but he's having the greatest season by a thirty seven year old with a herniat disk.

00:37:11
Speaker 5: Dura will never practice one time during training camp and NFL history, I mean, he's clearly the MVP.

00:37:17
Speaker 8: After not doing anything, He's now setting the template for all older quarterbacks. I'm gonna do nothing during training camp, not practice one time. I'll show up the first week of the season and just be awesome.

00:37:30
Speaker 2: Safe travels to Nebraska. I hope it's a great Thanksgiving out there for you. Has that a direct flight?

00:37:37
Speaker 5: It is not a direct flight. Nope.

00:37:39
Speaker 8: I'll be pitstop, quick, pitstop in Chicago.

00:37:42
Speaker 5: But I love you know, I love college football.

00:37:45
Speaker 8: I love rivalries, and I love how much this game means the people of Iowa and Nebraska. That's what you want, right as a broadcaster. You want to be calling big games that mean a lot to the people involved.

00:37:56
Speaker 2: That'll be Friday at noon Eastern on CBS. Thank you, Ross, Thank you Dan, that's the great great Ross Tucker there