PlayStation 30th Anniversary Collection Prices Leaked

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<v Speaker 2>with Me Jeff Grubb. Today, I heard Concord had a
<v Speaker 2>seven trillion dollar budget and when is that state of play?
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<v Speaker 2>the Game Mess Mornings. It's Sean Turbo, Shan mcdalell.
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<v Speaker 2>I was a Granny Smith guy when I was young,
<v Speaker 2>when I was a kid, But no, these days, I.
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<v Speaker 3>Said to be a fair this whole bit existed. Why
<v Speaker 3>I didn't think you were watching today's episode?
<v Speaker 2>Sorry, brouh Okay, Yeah, so how you been, Sean? You've
<v Speaker 2>been uh been playing Marvel verus capcom too? Or you
<v Speaker 2>you said you were busy this weekend? What's up?
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I've talked about this a little bit. I've just
<v Speaker 3>been busy with a whole bunch of personal stuff, like
<v Speaker 3>playing some stuff out recently, so I haven't had a
<v Speaker 3>ton of time for gaming. But I did get a
<v Speaker 3>few hours in this weekend. You know, each day Saturday Sundays.
<v Speaker 3>So I imagine to get like an hour in with
<v Speaker 3>NBC two, just in the lab practicing some stuff on
<v Speaker 3>both days before playing some more stuff. Checked out UFO
<v Speaker 3>fifty as cool.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I beat Barbata, which pretty sure how you say that?
<v Speaker 2>I did in googling that game a little bit to
<v Speaker 2>like just get like like a.
<v Speaker 1>Tip to get jump started, I'm like, what am I missing?
<v Speaker 2>And it's like, Okay, here's this one thing where it's
<v Speaker 2>like I just wasn't looking at the game right and
<v Speaker 2>that help. But in googling, I'm like, oh, that is
<v Speaker 2>the name of the helmet the characters when or the
<v Speaker 2>kind of helmet the characters wearing this.
<v Speaker 1>That's the first game in UFO fifty.
<v Speaker 2>If you watched us play that on on Professional Friday,
<v Speaker 2>said it sucked a bunch.
<v Speaker 1>And it's like it is like purposely archaic.
<v Speaker 2>But I did come around to kind of like it
<v Speaker 2>quite a bit because it is very much just you know,
<v Speaker 2>a bunch of secrets, a bunch of like little puzzle
<v Speaker 2>kind of things. And I enjoyed like finding all those things.
<v Speaker 2>That was a really good time.
<v Speaker 3>Actually, I have tried out the first like five or
<v Speaker 3>six games, I think, and I'm curious to see where
<v Speaker 3>it goes. Because right now it's almost more interesting as
<v Speaker 3>like an experiment, you know, a project, than it is
<v Speaker 3>to play as a video game.
<v Speaker 1>Definitely, yes, But then you get to.
<v Speaker 3>Like Mortal and like that is just a really fun
<v Speaker 3>little like puzzle platform or basically that's.
<v Speaker 1>One they could just like be on Steam by itself,
<v Speaker 1>right Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah you played that in upf if people want
<v Speaker 3>to see that. But that's yeah, that's just hilarious and
<v Speaker 3>like fun little puzzle games. I'm like, all right, if
<v Speaker 3>these the games kind of keep ramping up to something
<v Speaker 3>a little more substantial like this, I actually might stick
<v Speaker 3>around because those first few were like, yeah, these games
<v Speaker 3>all suck, but that's kind of kind of the joke
<v Speaker 3>kind of the point.
<v Speaker 2>At least a couple of them have sequels later on
<v Speaker 2>in the fifties, so yeah, and I'm.
<v Speaker 3>Like, they're like telling this story of the fictional console,
<v Speaker 3>the LN or whatever it is lex and then yeah,
<v Speaker 3>it's it's interesting to see what they're doing here, and
<v Speaker 3>I'm almost curious to see, like, like you guys mentioned,
<v Speaker 3>is there any sort of like meta gamey stuff with
<v Speaker 3>like the the games codes and whatnot that ye, that'll
<v Speaker 3>be interesting, sy yep.
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna I'm gonna keep playing it really enjoying it.
<v Speaker 2>I H I do think it's it is worthy of
<v Speaker 2>the kinds of praise it's getting, which is very specific,
<v Speaker 2>like people are like, yes, some of these games are
<v Speaker 2>are are are little or in some ways bad, but
<v Speaker 2>the overall experience of like what they're going for here,
<v Speaker 2>they execute that perfectly and say, okay, well, I mean
<v Speaker 2>that's the game here is kind of going through this
<v Speaker 2>this faux history.
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<v Speaker 2>All right, we have a lot to get into, so
<v Speaker 2>let's start the Morning Mess with when is that PlayStation
<v Speaker 2>state of play?
<v Speaker 1>Hey? This week it's this week. I know.
<v Speaker 2>Jordan Middler was just saying it was on Wednesday, you know,
<v Speaker 2>between time zones and I'll be hearing various things.
<v Speaker 1>This week is kind of where I'm at right now.
<v Speaker 1>There's a good.
<v Speaker 2>Chance it just like they announce it tomorrow and whether
<v Speaker 2>that's for later in the day or for Wednesday, we'll see.
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I would you know this week it probably
<v Speaker 2>does mean Tuesday, Wednesday or Thursday, because they're not gonna
<v Speaker 2>do it on a Friday. They never do these things
<v Speaker 2>on Monday. So we'll see, but it's still coming. Have
<v Speaker 2>you set your expectation levels for this appropriately? Where are
<v Speaker 2>you at with that?
<v Speaker 3>State of play as a show? This has nothing to
<v Speaker 3>do with the literal state of PlayStation right now. State
<v Speaker 3>of play as a show is usually pretty mediocre. Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>they have some that really hit and differently oftentimes it's
<v Speaker 3>when they get like big third parties in to say like, hey,
<v Speaker 3>this game is coming, especially if it's exclusive like some
<v Speaker 3>of the Final Fantasy stuff recently. Oh and otherwise stay
<v Speaker 3>a play. It still kind of feels like they don't
<v Speaker 3>get it a little bit, like most people who try
<v Speaker 3>to copy Nintendo Direct don't get it. You can't just
<v Speaker 3>have the show. You need to spin up a show.
<v Speaker 3>So expectations are in check. I think we've things have
<v Speaker 3>been quite enough on the PlayStation in front that this
<v Speaker 3>could be one that hits a little bit.
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, you know, we've sat a bunch of times now, Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>Exactly, so we'll see. They're still in that well state
<v Speaker 3>where they're trying to like spin up a lot of
<v Speaker 3>these big Triple A games that they like to do.
<v Speaker 3>So I think we're still gonna be it' still gonna
<v Speaker 3>be waiting around on some of those. So maybe we
<v Speaker 3>get you know, one or two big heavy hitters here,
<v Speaker 3>but I won't expect too much.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean in terms of first party, Like I'm trying,
<v Speaker 2>like what could be the biggest thing that could be here?
<v Speaker 2>I mean, obviously something new that we have no idea
<v Speaker 2>about that's possible.
<v Speaker 3>Is it too soon to see what would be next Wolverine?
<v Speaker 1>I think Venom would be next based on the league.
<v Speaker 3>Would be next? Probably did expand I I know the
<v Speaker 3>order of event everything. Yeah, yeah, we can see some
<v Speaker 3>Venom or something that I was thinking, yeah, something with
<v Speaker 3>Spider Man, but yeah, and maybe it is Venom.
<v Speaker 2>Venom seems like, of all the ones, that one is
<v Speaker 2>maybe the most likely that could show up here, even
<v Speaker 2>more likely than Ghostakushima, where it's like.
<v Speaker 3>Oh, that's right, that's the art one I was thinking
<v Speaker 3>of where that's yeah, I'm just trying to think of
<v Speaker 3>the studios we haven't really heard of recently or you know,
<v Speaker 3>Insomnik also just moves a break neck pace.
<v Speaker 1>So when did Ragnarok come out?
<v Speaker 3>Oh, as far as I'm concerned, what last week? Broadly speaking?
<v Speaker 3>Was it twenty twenty two? Uh?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, is that right? It's been a while, it's
<v Speaker 2>been I guess been a couple of years. Is that
<v Speaker 2>enough time for the other team that's been working on
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, project's side, the project from a Corey ballrog.
<v Speaker 3>Right, because he wasn't on Ragnarok, or at least not
<v Speaker 3>as director or whatever.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yeah, right, exactly, So probably not enough time.
<v Speaker 2>But maybe I like the who's to say, like they
<v Speaker 2>don't have an asset ready to go right now for
<v Speaker 2>a game that's coming out still in two more years,
<v Speaker 2>three more years, that's possible. It's just this isn't a
<v Speaker 2>showcase and they did. They have had a showcases in
<v Speaker 2>the recent past, although not recently. Necessarily, so maybe they
<v Speaker 2>could still be saving stuff for like, in the grand
<v Speaker 2>scheme of things, next spring is not that far away.
<v Speaker 2>If you are someone making a game these days where
<v Speaker 2>these games take six, seven, eight years and the marketing
<v Speaker 2>for them is kind of compressed, and you want to
<v Speaker 2>save time and you want to save all your eggs
<v Speaker 2>for one big basket of a big showcase. You're working
<v Speaker 2>on something that is going to come out in the
<v Speaker 2>next eighteen to twenty four months, and you have and
<v Speaker 2>you want to talk about it. Maybe you do actually
<v Speaker 2>end up saying, like, let's just save it for the showcase.
<v Speaker 2>We're fine, the PlayStation's selling fine, we have plenty of
<v Speaker 2>third party partners.
<v Speaker 1>So I think that's what happens with these state of
<v Speaker 1>plays a lot of time times.
<v Speaker 3>Right, yeah, exactly, And I think a lot of the
<v Speaker 3>time the date of play is more interesting as a
<v Speaker 3>way to measure where the company as a whole is at,
<v Speaker 3>because then that sort of informs how we think of
<v Speaker 3>the wrestler releases from the rest of the teams, from
<v Speaker 3>the people that we don't hear about, we and say, okay,
<v Speaker 3>so they're still cooking on this. They're still cooking on this. Oh,
<v Speaker 3>we did hear from this team, but it's like, hey,
<v Speaker 3>this is a little far out. I like that gives
<v Speaker 3>us a better picture of everything that's going on, even
<v Speaker 3>if the event itself isn't particularly interesting, which may this
<v Speaker 3>one will be. We'll see yep.
<v Speaker 2>And again, like bring this up every time, but it's
<v Speaker 2>worth reiterating. These things are often obligations that Sony makes
<v Speaker 2>with their third party partners, saying hey, we're going to
<v Speaker 2>showcase you in one of our events that's worth this
<v Speaker 2>amount of money, and that is part of our co
<v Speaker 2>marketing advertising.
<v Speaker 3>It's all advertise advertising as as hype as it is,
<v Speaker 3>you know, as much as you know some of us
<v Speaker 3>pop off about something it is. That's a strategy there.
<v Speaker 3>It's all just you know, putting some trailers out there
<v Speaker 3>in the way that, like I said, complies with the
<v Speaker 3>contract or whatever.
<v Speaker 2>And that's why sometimes oftentimes these state of places can
<v Speaker 2>feel I think underwhelming.
<v Speaker 1>Is because it really feels that way.
<v Speaker 2>By the time you're done watching, it's like, oh, that
<v Speaker 2>was a bunch of games I didn't care about, And
<v Speaker 2>really Sony probably knows that most people don't, and they
<v Speaker 2>just kind of had to do this and this could
<v Speaker 2>be one of those. It could be a mix, could
<v Speaker 2>be really good. Who knows in terms of exactly what's
<v Speaker 2>going to be in there, I don't know. And really
<v Speaker 2>at this point, we're going to see it soon, so
<v Speaker 2>who cares.
<v Speaker 1>We'll find out.
<v Speaker 3>Why it's exciting. Well, we'll just watch it. We'll see
<v Speaker 3>what happens, and it'll be a good time either way.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Destraining too is Alexi mentioned in the cheat like
<v Speaker 2>that thing's not going to be maybe it's going to
<v Speaker 2>be a Tokyo game show.
<v Speaker 1>It is, but under a coach of a production.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, Lea's coach productions are going to be there.
<v Speaker 3>It was Destraining two specifically confirmed.
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if it's not I mean for Tokyo
<v Speaker 2>game show, yes, but not for a state of place. Okay,
<v Speaker 2>we'll see, we will see, all right, And again, if
<v Speaker 2>you want to, if you want to take a clip
<v Speaker 2>and put it out there so that people don't get
<v Speaker 2>mad when it, like, if it doesn't necessarily happen tomorrow.
<v Speaker 1>It's this week, everybody. This week could be Tuesday, could
<v Speaker 1>be Wednesday.
<v Speaker 3>Ah, so now we know what to throw against you
<v Speaker 3>and it's not this week. Okay, that's making it easier
<v Speaker 3>when I posted Gaming Weeks.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I knew it was you all along.
<v Speaker 2>It was always Astrobots, Solis devotion to the Sony brand.
<v Speaker 2>It's a real problem. I just wanted to bring this
<v Speaker 2>up because this was popping off over the weekend. Okay,
<v Speaker 2>there are several things here. One, people should be able
<v Speaker 2>to write this stuff and should be able to criticize
<v Speaker 2>things and have different views. Obviously, I think most people
<v Speaker 2>agree with that, even if even if they feel defensive
<v Speaker 2>of Astrobot. There was this isn't like so out of
<v Speaker 2>the ordinary, because there was a time in the two
<v Speaker 2>thousands where this was like every story like this is
<v Speaker 2>just what the people who wrote about games were thinking
<v Speaker 2>about games in these terms, like for everything, and that's
<v Speaker 2>mostly gone away. And I think it's because it turns
<v Speaker 2>out the audience doesn't have much of an appetite for
<v Speaker 2>this kind of story. I did read it, and I
<v Speaker 2>you know there's here. I'll start by saying, when I
<v Speaker 2>put stuff out, I believe that I should be criticized
<v Speaker 2>because I'm a critic. I think first and foremost out
<v Speaker 2>of everything, and or at least you know, it's one
<v Speaker 2>of the things I do. And if I'm going to
<v Speaker 2>criticize things. I should be able to be to take
<v Speaker 2>some criticism, and so in that vein, I am going
<v Speaker 2>to criticize this a little bit. This argument here is
<v Speaker 2>a little pretentious and a little naive where it's the
<v Speaker 2>potential side comes from, like, oh, is something real or
<v Speaker 2>fake and kind of trying to determine if Astrobot is
<v Speaker 2>a real game or a fake game? And by that
<v Speaker 2>they mean is it something that is like someone truly
<v Speaker 2>trying to express something or is it a parade of
<v Speaker 2>ip masturbatory, like you know, an exercise in just sort
<v Speaker 2>of like you know, building up PlayStation as a brand
<v Speaker 2>that people care about and not much more now I think,
<v Speaker 2>of course, we know it can be both. And that's
<v Speaker 2>not really where the naivete comes in. The naivety comes in.
<v Speaker 2>It's like, well, when this game succeeds in this the
<v Speaker 2>argument the story goes on to make when this game
<v Speaker 2>succeeds as it is, it seems like it's doing pretty well.
<v Speaker 2>Is so any going to take away from it that, oh,
<v Speaker 2>it's succeeded because it was a great platformer.
<v Speaker 1>Are they going to are they going to take away
<v Speaker 1>from it that, hey, people want.
<v Speaker 2>More of this solist devotion to first party IP and
<v Speaker 2>it's like, Okay, that's where I'm like, we are already
<v Speaker 2>through the looking glass on that we like, Especially from
<v Speaker 2>these big publishers, they're so risk adverse, they're so afraid
<v Speaker 2>of everything that like, what's the alternative from Sony is
<v Speaker 2>like a bunch of the same kinds of over the
<v Speaker 2>shoulder third person action adventure games they've been making for
<v Speaker 2>a while, and you know they're doing that because that's
<v Speaker 2>been proven to be being able to hold up to
<v Speaker 2>the risk. And now they're doing this and they're like, Okay, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>they probably are going to do more things that sort
<v Speaker 2>of lean into their first party ips. Sure, but if
<v Speaker 2>you are looking for that raw like pure someone's just
<v Speaker 2>creating a game because they want to create a game.
<v Speaker 2>We sort of the battle with the big publishers on
<v Speaker 2>this that that is not happening there anymore, and it
<v Speaker 2>hasn't been for a while, and so I'm like, Okay,
<v Speaker 2>you get you want to have this conversation, but for me,
<v Speaker 2>it's been over for a while.
<v Speaker 1>If I won that kind of game, I'll go to
<v Speaker 1>the INNDS, I'll find.
<v Speaker 2>Him there and I'm gonna be happy doing that, and
<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna be too worried if Sony's gonna come out.
<v Speaker 1>And be like, isn't Sony cool? Because of course they are.
<v Speaker 1>It's twenty twenty four. That's just where we are.
<v Speaker 2>I know you haven't read this story, but did you
<v Speaker 2>see some of the backlash online?
<v Speaker 3>I did, and I also this is not how you
<v Speaker 3>should read an article by way, But just to get
<v Speaker 3>myself caught up, I am I was skimmy in here
<v Speaker 3>a little bit while you were talking, and well, I
<v Speaker 3>will say it's ritten in a way where it's all right.
<v Speaker 3>You were clearly trying to rile people up. But yeah, regardless,
<v Speaker 3>little potential like you, like you were getting at, I
<v Speaker 3>do think that people should be able to say what
<v Speaker 3>they want and not necessarily get attacked for it. It's
<v Speaker 3>okay for someone to have a paion that difference from yours,
<v Speaker 3>even if you know here you and me are looking
<v Speaker 3>at the zarraca like we have. We disagree with the
<v Speaker 3>point you're trying to make here, but like I said,
<v Speaker 3>that's critiquing. That's criticism, and I think that not to
<v Speaker 3>get out my soapbox too much here, everything needs to
<v Speaker 3>be a take nowadays, like You can't just have an opinion.
<v Speaker 3>It needs to be your take against someone else's take,
<v Speaker 3>and your take is either good or bad. Like the
<v Speaker 3>things you say are weaponized in one way or another.
<v Speaker 3>And I think on either side either trying to go
<v Speaker 3>out there and say, hey, that thing you like sucks,
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna tell you why, or someone countering that with, well,
<v Speaker 3>your things sucks. Like the fact that you think it
<v Speaker 3>sucks sucks. Just can we all calm down a little
<v Speaker 3>bit with all of this on either side of the
<v Speaker 3>argument here and just just chill have a calmer conversation.
<v Speaker 3>That being said, Yeah, I think this article and this
<v Speaker 3>argument in particular, which I did see other people talking
<v Speaker 3>about on Twitter, uh not like weirdo Twitter, like that
<v Speaker 3>my Twitter.
<v Speaker 2>That's the only reason I'm bringing this up is because
<v Speaker 2>it's like it wasn't weird of Twitter. I'm sure it was,
<v Speaker 2>but that's not what I was looking at.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I know, people say we saw people going off
<v Speaker 3>on Twitter, and they're like, oh, well, Twitter sucks. Twitter
<v Speaker 3>is terrible, as keep in mind that the way we
<v Speaker 3>still use Twitter is still we just saw.
<v Speaker 2>The people that I respected when I have a conversation
<v Speaker 2>with in real life that's that's what we're talking about.
<v Speaker 3>That's all exactly exactly. So that being said, uh, with that,
<v Speaker 3>I have seen other people make the same point of
<v Speaker 3>I do kind of wish Astro would stand on his
<v Speaker 3>own and not just be advertisement for PlayStation Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>It.
<v Speaker 3>By the end of it, I did even myself feel
<v Speaker 3>a little bit that like, oh, all right, you really
<v Speaker 3>are just trying to show off the things that people
<v Speaker 3>can then go buy in the store, don't you like?
<v Speaker 1>And I don't even necessarily know if I like got
<v Speaker 1>that feeling.
<v Speaker 2>I just I think Astro is so strong that it
<v Speaker 2>would be like, let's start building its own future. And
<v Speaker 2>even though I think you did a really good job
<v Speaker 2>with all of this, you know, like diving into the
<v Speaker 2>first party, you know, historical content from PlayStation Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>And I mean the title of the article is that
<v Speaker 3>Soul's devotion to Sony brand is a real problem, and
<v Speaker 3>I disagree with that in part as someone who really
<v Speaker 3>likes something like say Smash, where I think you can
<v Speaker 3>pay homage and pay reverence to the brand that you
<v Speaker 3>are propping up while still being a very fun game
<v Speaker 3>to play in its own right, just like Smash is
<v Speaker 3>a very fun game to play with your friends, to
<v Speaker 3>play competitively, to play like in whatever way you want.
<v Speaker 3>It's just a very well made video game from people
<v Speaker 3>who clearly care. That's how I feel about Astrobo as well.
<v Speaker 3>Even if even like around here, I would be the
<v Speaker 3>one who's sort of like quote unquote down on it
<v Speaker 3>by even just saying like, oh, it's a fantastic game.
<v Speaker 3>I'm just not completely in love with it even then, Like,
<v Speaker 3>I still think it's incredible. I think it's fantastic. After
<v Speaker 3>playing that ending, especially where you want to talk about
<v Speaker 3>what auto fillatio or whatever the hell they put it
<v Speaker 3>as in that article, it really is like just an
<v Speaker 3>incredible moment of Yeah, PlayStation history kind of rules. That's awesome.
<v Speaker 3>I mean, you know, that's that's where I kind of
<v Speaker 3>makes you feel good.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, where it's this, you know, I think I've been
<v Speaker 2>asking PlayStation to be a little bit more reverent of
<v Speaker 2>its own history instead of like always blindly marching forward
<v Speaker 2>and being like, let's chase the next big trend. And
<v Speaker 2>so for me, I'm like, in the context especially of
<v Speaker 2>like of where gaming is at right now, this game
<v Speaker 2>feels like a win where it's like, hey, they did
<v Speaker 2>an excellent game. And did an excellent job of saying, hey,
<v Speaker 2>oh are history matters, And it's like, yes, we've been
<v Speaker 2>telling you your history matters, so fantastic, now this is
<v Speaker 2>I get that. It's like they just did Astro's Playroom
<v Speaker 2>and then this, and they both have this similar sort
<v Speaker 2>of of mode of going after that. But it's like, Okay,
<v Speaker 2>I think they expanded on that idea. If the next
<v Speaker 2>game is once again a tread through the you know,
<v Speaker 2>the walking path of history of PlayStation video games, I
<v Speaker 2>will be disappointed for sure. Now I don't to me,
<v Speaker 2>that's not a problem necessarily. It's just like I think
<v Speaker 2>it is a criticism that I will probably have at
<v Speaker 2>that time. But the idea that the solist devotion to
<v Speaker 2>the Sony brand is a real problem, it's just it
<v Speaker 2>just isn't not not relative to all of the other
<v Speaker 2>things that actually are going to be a problem for
<v Speaker 2>Sony and all the distractions that company might have about
<v Speaker 2>how to approach its future and live service games. Having
<v Speaker 2>an Astro do the thing it's set out to do
<v Speaker 2>and do it really well and have a team that's
<v Speaker 2>just like, hey, we made this joyous platformer.
<v Speaker 1>Here is several.
<v Speaker 2>Levels that we've made because they brought you joy and
<v Speaker 2>here's a bunch of history that also will make you
<v Speaker 2>feel joy. It all feels in line with one another
<v Speaker 2>and does it. It's like kind of not a problem
<v Speaker 2>in any way.
<v Speaker 3>Right, there's a line to be walked between ad and celebration. Now,
<v Speaker 3>I think Astro firmly falls on the side of celebrating.
<v Speaker 3>Like the games I just mentioned, like Mario Kart and
<v Speaker 3>a lot of the stuff Nintendo does where a lot
<v Speaker 3>and you know, we make comparisons to especially three D
<v Speaker 3>Mario platformers a lot. But because that's kind of what
<v Speaker 3>they're going for here, Like clearly they were inspired by
<v Speaker 3>Mario Galaxy and a lot of our Nintendo things when
<v Speaker 3>it comes to the celebration at all, and that's good
<v Speaker 3>because like that's what sells, and that's what people like.
<v Speaker 3>If it's the best of both worlds and every one's happy,
<v Speaker 3>then that's the route you go. You look at say
<v Speaker 3>Mario Kart, that's become Nintendo Kart, And I don't think
<v Speaker 3>people have a problem with them putting in Link and
<v Speaker 3>Isabelle and all these random characters. Is people say, oh, hey,
<v Speaker 3>it's that character. I like, it's cool that they're in
<v Speaker 3>here this game that plays well. Yep, so I think
<v Speaker 3>it's okay for Astrobot to do the same thing. When
<v Speaker 3>it comes to the future of the series, I think
<v Speaker 3>it comes down to the frequency in which these games
<v Speaker 3>come out, because if they come out at a rapid
<v Speaker 3>fire pace and every single time it's celebration of place,
<v Speaker 3>then that could yellow old, right, But I don't know,
<v Speaker 3>you can strike a bounce between two. If they want
<v Speaker 3>to do it more frequently, then yeah, I have astros
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, Jungle Escape or whatever. It's more like
<v Speaker 3>Donkey Kong Country or something. You know, like have the
<v Speaker 3>entire game themed around that and not necessarily just be
<v Speaker 3>about the history of PlayStation or you can out space
<v Speaker 3>out more and still have it be a celebration.
<v Speaker 2>I'm a sucker though, because when you started talking about
<v Speaker 2>what if the next one was a walk through the
<v Speaker 2>history of Sony and no PlayStation stuff, like he got
<v Speaker 2>like just knocked into the other timeline of like here's
<v Speaker 2>the walk.
<v Speaker 3>Cameras and stuff.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, here's the cameras, the TVs, the bio computers and
<v Speaker 2>stuff like that.
<v Speaker 1>I would enjoy that.
<v Speaker 3>That's how funny that's me.
<v Speaker 1>Maybe they could just be one level of that. Actually, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>all that said.
<v Speaker 2>The even saying the article is pretentious and naive. I
<v Speaker 2>like that there are stories on kataku dot com that
<v Speaker 2>are pretentious naive.
<v Speaker 1>That's a good thing.
<v Speaker 2>There used to be a million stories like this, like
<v Speaker 2>I said, when I was coming up reading about games,
<v Speaker 2>And the reason for that is the media was pretty
<v Speaker 2>small and the video game industry was small. But the
<v Speaker 2>people covering games, it was a small group and it
<v Speaker 2>was kind of the best of the best. Like, look
<v Speaker 2>at how many of those people went on to like
<v Speaker 2>like the sports game Guy at EGM, all right, Brian
<v Speaker 2>and Tahar went on to direct several Stars or Spider
<v Speaker 2>Man games like that was the Sports game Guy.
<v Speaker 1>That's how deep the bench was.
<v Speaker 2>That like that, everyone had that ability and creativity inside
<v Speaker 2>of them, and they had a lot of thoughts about games,
<v Speaker 2>and they weren't shy about sharing them. And so, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>I get that there's no real audience for this kind
<v Speaker 2>of criticism anymore, but maybe we can make a little
<v Speaker 2>There should be.
<v Speaker 3>Yes, yeah, there should be. Without anyone, you know, just
<v Speaker 3>immediately defaulting to screaming at each other over it. I
<v Speaker 3>think we can we all learn to be a little
<v Speaker 3>more calm about just talking about video games are then
<v Speaker 3>having to scream about them on the airnet.
<v Speaker 2>Yep, all right, let's get to this next one. Multiple
<v Speaker 2>sources dispute Concord's four hundred million dollar budget. This is
<v Speaker 2>from Gloria Levine at eighty level. Concord had only two
<v Speaker 2>weeks to enjoy its freedom before it ultimately died and
<v Speaker 2>wasted Sony lots of millions?
<v Speaker 1>How much?
<v Speaker 2>At first, the development costs were estimated between fifty to
<v Speaker 2>two hundred million, but a couple of days ago, cal
<v Speaker 2>Moriarty the the podcasters, shared that it was actually much
<v Speaker 2>more expensive. He was contacted by a person who worked
<v Speaker 2>on Concord, and they said it cost about four hundred
<v Speaker 2>million dollars to make, which is a crazy sum of money.
<v Speaker 2>Now we'll stop there. I don't know if he came
<v Speaker 2>out and clarify or whatever, but I heard that he
<v Speaker 2>based that number on combining some figures of like how
<v Speaker 2>much money the I can't remember what the group of
<v Speaker 2>studios was called that Firewalk was part of beforehand, but
<v Speaker 2>it was like that they raised like two hundred and
<v Speaker 2>fifty million dollars for multiple studios for multiple projects, and
<v Speaker 2>then once they went under Sony. It's like the studios
<v Speaker 2>acquired and then the Sony said they spent a bunch
<v Speaker 2>more money on top of that, and he added all
<v Speaker 2>that money up. I guess that's how he got the
<v Speaker 2>four hundred million dollars. That is, uh, not the way
<v Speaker 2>to count this. I would say I didn't think too
<v Speaker 2>much about this four hund million dollar number because think
<v Speaker 2>it popped up on like Friday, and I had like,
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I'd done my shows and I was thinking
<v Speaker 2>about other stuff. I'm like, this seems big, but whatever, Okay,
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't maybe they're maybe they're counting a
<v Speaker 2>huge marketing. I hadn't really thought about the marketing, but
<v Speaker 2>now I look back, there wasn't much either way.
<v Speaker 1>I'll get on with the story here. Let's see. However,
<v Speaker 1>not everyone believes this number.
<v Speaker 2>Co Taco's Ethan Gotch couldn't confirm the budget, but four
<v Speaker 2>hundred million dollars is not the number I've heard, he said,
<v Speaker 2>and the head of Games Industry dot is Christopher Dring,
<v Speaker 2>also doesn't think it's true because no game has that
<v Speaker 2>development budget. Concord didn't even get any above the line
<v Speaker 2>marketing spend, he claimed, adding there's just no way a
<v Speaker 2>game with half the dev team as a Spider Man
<v Speaker 2>two has a budget that Big Spider Man two did
<v Speaker 2>cost like three hundred million dollars. The idea that Concord
<v Speaker 2>is one hundred million dollars more than that actually is
<v Speaker 2>impossible once you sit down and think about it. And
<v Speaker 2>Tring also said that this is kind of the laughing
<v Speaker 2>stock of the industry when they when the people are
<v Speaker 2>here seeing this number, so it's like, yeah, hey they
<v Speaker 2>can laugh. And again like I'm like when I think
<v Speaker 2>about this number, Yeah, but no one knows how much
<v Speaker 2>games cost or the marketing because they never share that information.
<v Speaker 2>So of course gamers a lot of people bit on
<v Speaker 2>this number are like, that's crazy, how did that happen?
<v Speaker 2>I think the bottom line here, Sean is the game
<v Speaker 2>clearly cost a lot of money to make and made
<v Speaker 2>zero dollars and not I mean honestly, even releasing the
<v Speaker 2>game seem to have cost them money.
<v Speaker 3>Well, yeah, because they needed to do refunds. And the
<v Speaker 3>simple act of someone buying your game and you're giving
<v Speaker 3>the money back costs you operational costs, so you're not
<v Speaker 3>just giving the money back, you are losing even it's
<v Speaker 3>a small amount. You are losing money on that, And
<v Speaker 3>so to do that with every anybody, that's all the
<v Speaker 3>money you're spending on like a variety of server costs
<v Speaker 3>and you know, customer support and all all the small
<v Speaker 3>little things that slowly add up. They probably did lose
<v Speaker 3>money on Concorde in the long run, regardless of what
<v Speaker 3>did cost.
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, and it's uh, definitely lose more than
<v Speaker 2>just you know, already spent might they already spent on developing?
<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes.
<v Speaker 2>And it's like if you're wondering, like what how come
<v Speaker 2>these games are so expensive, it's always just remember it's
<v Speaker 2>paying experts to make a game, and those experts can
<v Speaker 2>command a pretty they could, especially during the pandemic, they
<v Speaker 2>were commanding pretty high wages. And uh, and so every
<v Speaker 2>person you add just adds costs to making a game,
<v Speaker 2>especially when you multiply that by the years it takes
<v Speaker 2>to make a game. So costs are still going up.
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, nothing is at four hundred million dollars yet. Uh,
<v Speaker 2>we'll see where like Grand Theft Auto dix Lands, But
<v Speaker 2>first much Grand Theft Ought of Six is going.
<v Speaker 1>To be probably cool to this number. I think by
<v Speaker 1>the end.
<v Speaker 2>But when it's all said and done, but even that
<v Speaker 2>might not be four hundred million. When they finish, we'll see,
<v Speaker 2>I think.
<v Speaker 3>So like combined with marketing and everything.
<v Speaker 1>Combined with marketing, I probably would put it over four
<v Speaker 1>hundred million.
<v Speaker 3>Yes, because depending on when that comes out, like I
<v Speaker 3>could see Rockstar like you know, super Bowl ad and stuff,
<v Speaker 3>they could go all the way with this.
<v Speaker 2>If it were combined with marketing, they'll kiss, Yes, they
<v Speaker 2>will put a ton of stuff out. So yes, that
<v Speaker 2>will be over one hundred million. But if we're just
<v Speaker 2>talking about I don't know, I actually who knows how
<v Speaker 2>he came up with this number? Really, so yeah, but
<v Speaker 2>how much.
<v Speaker 1>A game costs to make.
<v Speaker 2>If that we're trying to just contain that, it'll still
<v Speaker 2>be pretty close to four hundred million. Because they have
<v Speaker 2>a big team and they've been working on it for
<v Speaker 2>a very long time. And however, you want to map
<v Speaker 2>that out because like, oh, were they working on this
<v Speaker 2>or are they working on Grand Theft at Online. They've
<v Speaker 2>been working on GTA six for a very long time,
<v Speaker 2>so very exactly, and yeah, they're like max last or
<v Speaker 2>the chances it's guaranteed to make win back its costs definitely, yes,
<v Speaker 2>oh yeah, yeah, and there's.
<v Speaker 3>Nothing else over the course of like ten years, you know,
<v Speaker 3>make it back in spades, absolutely no problems.
<v Speaker 1>All Right, we're gonna take a quick break.
<v Speaker 2>When we get back. Plenty more headlines to get into.
<v Speaker 2>Rumors about Resident Evil nine. We'll see who to believe
<v Speaker 2>right after this, all right, let's get back into it.
<v Speaker 2>There's a rumor that a possible Resident Evil nine release
<v Speaker 2>window has been narrowed down. This is from Varaj bat
<v Speaker 2>Nagar at Game Rant. A reputable insider says that Resident
<v Speaker 2>Resident Evil nine could be announced very soon, with a
<v Speaker 2>potential release window of mid to late twenty twenty five.
<v Speaker 2>The next mainline entry in the critically acclaimed Resident Evil
<v Speaker 2>series carries with it a lot of anticipation and fans
<v Speaker 2>patients could finally.
<v Speaker 1>Pay off in the coming weeks.
<v Speaker 2>Twenty twenty four has seen a spike in activity surrounding
<v Speaker 2>Residuable nine rumors, namely the game's starring cast, setting development timeline,
<v Speaker 2>possible protagonist, and open world ambitions. Remember that we heard
<v Speaker 2>about like this would be part of the new effort
<v Speaker 2>for the RI engine go from Dragons Dogma two to
<v Speaker 2>this to like expand more into Open World Games. Additionally,
<v Speaker 2>Residevial nine's revealed was reportedly going to happen this summer,
<v Speaker 2>but these plans were apparently postponed at the last minute.
<v Speaker 2>Resident Evil fans were understandably disappointed, but if a very
<v Speaker 2>recent rumor is to be believed, they may not be
<v Speaker 2>too far away from an exciting surprise. Reliable industry and
<v Speaker 2>insider lunatic Igness recently claimed on their distort channel that
<v Speaker 2>Capcom is gearing up to reveal Resident Evil nine with
<v Speaker 2>a teaser in the coming week's slash months. It could
<v Speaker 2>be argued that the timeline for this announcement is rather vague,
<v Speaker 2>but it does line up with another nugget of exciting
<v Speaker 2>information the insider provided, which is that Resident Evil nine's
<v Speaker 2>launch is reportedly being planned for the second half of
<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty five. Look, I include the story because I
<v Speaker 2>just want to talk about Resident Evil nine.
<v Speaker 3>Like, let's be clear, man, I get being anonymous on
<v Speaker 3>the airnet. How far are we from? Like you know
<v Speaker 3>Joey Kraps's Pants announces the PS six or well.
<v Speaker 1>I trust Joey craps his Pants with my life, all right.
<v Speaker 1>He knows some stuff. He knows people who know people.
<v Speaker 2>All right, all right, all this stuff sounds very plausible,
<v Speaker 2>which I know is like a kind of thing where
<v Speaker 2>people like a broken clock right twice a day. I actually,
<v Speaker 2>you have never heard of this insider before. If people
<v Speaker 2>want to believe it or not, I'm not my business. Mostly,
<v Speaker 2>I'm just like, let's kind of just talk about talk
<v Speaker 2>out like where Capcom probably.
<v Speaker 1>Is with Residue Evil nine right now?
<v Speaker 3>Where in the state of play?
<v Speaker 1>Where else could be in the state of play? Right,
<v Speaker 1>could be state of play, could be gaining.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it could be they do like doing Resident Evil
<v Speaker 3>stuff and stay of place they have.
<v Speaker 1>That's right.
<v Speaker 2>That's why I said, yes, exactly, it's possible could be
<v Speaker 2>in the state of play, but it could also not
<v Speaker 2>show up until early next year. There's a whole bunch
<v Speaker 2>of opportunities for this game to show up in a
<v Speaker 2>different places. Could obviously stand on its own and its
<v Speaker 2>own reveal, but I do expect this.
<v Speaker 1>Game to be out by the second half of twenty
<v Speaker 1>twenty five. What do you think?
<v Speaker 3>I think that sounds right because I'm trying to do
<v Speaker 3>the math here on well, because Capcom I'm trying to
<v Speaker 3>think Resident Evil four I'm trying to remember how that
<v Speaker 3>was developed. Was that entirely handed off to M two
<v Speaker 3>the other M two, or was that brought back in
<v Speaker 3>house at Capcom.
<v Speaker 2>I thought that that core team that did Resident Evil
<v Speaker 2>two helped with Reside Evil four, But that is me
<v Speaker 2>pulling from memory, which we all know how that goes exactly.
<v Speaker 3>So I'm trying to remember how that all shook out.
<v Speaker 3>So I'm trying to think, Okay, so the the core
<v Speaker 3>ARI team who did who wasn't working on that, or
<v Speaker 3>however will worked out? Would they be ready to start
<v Speaker 3>prepping release for Ari nine? How far along is that.
<v Speaker 3>I'm trying to think of the timeline right here, And I.
<v Speaker 2>Think generally, when I have looked into this, like the
<v Speaker 2>fandom that does pay attention to that stuff and is
<v Speaker 2>looking at that timeline generally agrees that Residuevil nine should
<v Speaker 2>be ready by next year. That's why it was widely accepted.
<v Speaker 2>It probably was going to get announced during the summer.
<v Speaker 2>I feel like I remember those like I feel like
<v Speaker 2>I had rumors Resduevvil nine could have happened.
<v Speaker 1>Maybe not, but it's like RECIVL. I heard some stuff
<v Speaker 1>with Restoningvile nine.
<v Speaker 2>Maybe summer, and then it's like, that's probably actually gonna
<v Speaker 2>get bounced out of the summer.
<v Speaker 3>I mean, you'll be the next year or two presumably,
<v Speaker 3>especially the whole trilogy, like Capcom doing things in threes
<v Speaker 3>with stuff like this is true, and they're gonna try
<v Speaker 3>to get this out there because at the pace that
<v Speaker 3>they're roughly going, yeah, in the ballpark of every four
<v Speaker 3>years sounds right, and what Aria was twenty twenty one's
<v Speaker 3>right and possible.
<v Speaker 2>I think if you kind of look at how they
<v Speaker 2>do these trilogies, they do happen pretty rapid fire, and
<v Speaker 2>the trilogies being like development trilogies, as I think it
<v Speaker 2>is what you're alluding to, right where it's like kind
<v Speaker 2>of yes, So that would be Dragon's Dogma two early
<v Speaker 2>this year, right, and then.
<v Speaker 1>Monster Hunter Wild. Right, that's Wild early next.
<v Speaker 2>Year, yeah, and then late next year or early twenty
<v Speaker 2>twenty six for Resident Evil nine. Sounds about right, like
<v Speaker 2>those three big games from different teams working together on
<v Speaker 2>one engine.
<v Speaker 1>Developing the technology for the open world stuff. Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>I think we probably don't go too long without hearing
<v Speaker 2>about this game, though, especially if that's the timeline they
<v Speaker 2>are going to be focused, excuse me, focused on Monster
<v Speaker 2>Hunter Wild of course.
<v Speaker 1>But Resident Evil and Monster.
<v Speaker 2>Hunter have existed side by side and they'll continue doing so,
<v Speaker 2>so they won't be afraid to talk about one just
<v Speaker 2>because the other's coming along exactly.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, all right.
<v Speaker 2>PlayStation thirtieth Anniversary collection prices have started to leak. This
<v Speaker 2>is from Ethan dotch Ekotaku read Yeah, I actually I
<v Speaker 2>was like kind of looking at these numbers real quick.
<v Speaker 2>We'll see I don't think. I don't know if they
<v Speaker 2>have the number for the big one yet, but we'll
<v Speaker 2>see here. Pre Orders for the limited edition PlayStation thirtieth
<v Speaker 2>Anniversary Collection don't start going live until later this week,
<v Speaker 2>but in the meantime, we were already starting to get
<v Speaker 2>a better idea of how much some of the consoles
<v Speaker 2>and accessories will cost. Thanks to a new leak, The
<v Speaker 2>prices don't seem that bad so far. Trusted insider leaker
<v Speaker 2>Bill bil Koon at deal Labs, who has a history
<v Speaker 2>of sharing PlayStation product info ahead of schedule, reported that
<v Speaker 2>the apparent prices of two of the anniverse three PS
<v Speaker 2>five collection pieces over the weekend. The PS one style
<v Speaker 2>makeover of the all Digital PS five Slim model will
<v Speaker 2>seemingly cost five hundred it's normally four hundred and fifty,
<v Speaker 2>while just ATS one style yep, while just the PS
<v Speaker 2>one style Dual Sense controller alone will cost eighty dollars,
<v Speaker 2>it's normally seventy five.
<v Speaker 3>So following a recent price, I impart to note that
<v Speaker 3>they keep raising price on earthing.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah they do keep market. Yes, yeah, they did just
<v Speaker 1>raise that five dollars, didn't they. That's not terrible for
<v Speaker 1>the PS five Slim bundle.
<v Speaker 2>Well, while the all digital PS five started at four
<v Speaker 2>hundred dollars when it launched back in twenty twenty, soon
<v Speaker 2>he raised that slim model to four hundred and fifty
<v Speaker 2>when it.
<v Speaker 1>Was released last year. Okay, so the one the price we.
<v Speaker 2>Don't have still is the PlayStation five row, which the
<v Speaker 2>one that I needs with the UH and that's the
<v Speaker 2>one with the edge Dual Sense.
<v Speaker 3>Edge yep, dual sunset, which itself is.
<v Speaker 2>Like two hundred dollars, right, yep, so seven hundred to
<v Speaker 2>like it's at least there's no.
<v Speaker 3>Way it's not a thousand dollars. It comes with like
<v Speaker 3>the charging stand too, Like right, they're putting enough in
<v Speaker 3>there that I think the nice round thousand dollars. They'll
<v Speaker 3>be like, yeah, it's a collector's island. What are you
<v Speaker 3>gonna do? Yeah, I do.
<v Speaker 2>Like, so they're staying that the one is uh well
<v Speaker 2>five hundred is supposed to four to fifty, so they're
<v Speaker 2>adding like fifty bucks on top.
<v Speaker 1>I think you're right for that one.
<v Speaker 2>They probably add like one hundred and go to like
<v Speaker 2>one fifty, maybe even eleven hundred.
<v Speaker 3>Well, yeah, because it would be a little over nine
<v Speaker 3>hundred for the sheer cost of our thing in there.
<v Speaker 3>So I think they just round out two thousand and say, yeah,
<v Speaker 3>this is like the deluxe Collector's.
<v Speaker 1>Passed at least one thousand dollars. I grew like for
<v Speaker 1>sure it's at least.
<v Speaker 3>I don't think it's I don't think it's more of
<v Speaker 3>that thousand. I don't think I don't think it's because.
<v Speaker 2>You might go eleven, but you're right, nine nine ninety
<v Speaker 2>nine ninety nine would probably be a yeah, right, that's
<v Speaker 2>the thing that looks pretty friendly exactly at least to
<v Speaker 2>our brains.
<v Speaker 3>Into four digits for a console. That's where people start
<v Speaker 3>to like do a double take, you know, yep, exactly,
<v Speaker 3>and even you know us were big old idiots, Because
<v Speaker 3>like I was on the BombCast a couple of weeks
<v Speaker 3>ago saying how much this thing sucks? Why would you
<v Speaker 3>buy a PS five Pro? And then they just slap
<v Speaker 3>gray paint on it. I'm like, oh, yeah, buy a
<v Speaker 3>thousand dollars PS five Pro. Of course, I'll spend three
<v Speaker 3>hundred extra dollars on there.
<v Speaker 2>Yep, I'm I'm in the same exec boat. There's what
<v Speaker 2>was to be clear.
<v Speaker 3>I'm doing it because I'm a savvy consumer. I know
<v Speaker 3>that thing's only going to go up in place. I
<v Speaker 3>would be thousand, yes, yeah, that's why you save the box.
<v Speaker 1>I'll for this limited edition one of course.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because the box alone is gonna be worth like
<v Speaker 3>five hundred bucks.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the twelve three hundred of the PlayStation five Pro.
<v Speaker 2>That doesn't seem like a lot. Globally, I think it's
<v Speaker 2>going to be a real pain to get one of
<v Speaker 2>these things'd be really.
<v Speaker 3>Granted, they did figure out the queuing system for the
<v Speaker 3>most part on PlayStation Direct, which is where they are
<v Speaker 3>exclusively selling the Pro, so it might suck to get it.
<v Speaker 3>But assuming those systems are still in place and hold up,
<v Speaker 3>you're there might be more demand than ever so they
<v Speaker 3>might not hold up. But if they hold up, it
<v Speaker 3>actually could just be Q up inline E.
<v Speaker 2>I get up that morning with enough time to go
<v Speaker 2>get in that que and you think there's a chance
<v Speaker 2>that a pretty good chance i'd be able to get
<v Speaker 2>Wonder what or I.
<v Speaker 3>Think there's a better chance. I think there's a better
<v Speaker 3>chance than say, you know, the twentieth anniversary where that
<v Speaker 3>was just a complete shit show with the PS four.
<v Speaker 3>But I think if you are there when it goes
<v Speaker 3>live again, assuming the systems hold up, which they may,
<v Speaker 3>but of course, yeah, there's a chance that you may
<v Speaker 3>have to, like, you know, wait in line an hour
<v Speaker 3>or something. That's I remember that's how why I had
<v Speaker 3>to do get my friends PS five. But it words
<v Speaker 3>so I don't know it's possible.
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna try. I'm gonna give it a shot.
<v Speaker 3>We're all gonna try.
<v Speaker 2>I want another five anyhow. And he keeps saying I
<v Speaker 2>want my own PS five. I'm like, well, I want
<v Speaker 2>my own PS five. You guys stolen mind.
<v Speaker 3>I want my own PS five. I don't own one.
<v Speaker 3>I'm still borrowing my friends that he wants it back
<v Speaker 3>now because he heard how good Aztrobot is.
<v Speaker 1>Well get up's row.
<v Speaker 3>There you go. Apparently that's why I got to uh.
<v Speaker 2>Why Space bree two's massive success is dangerous for its developer.
<v Speaker 2>This is from Eddie Muko, a spot game spot excuse me,
<v Speaker 2>Warhammer forty thousand. Space Marine two enjoyed a very successful
<v Speaker 2>launch earlier this month, and now one of the top
<v Speaker 2>bosses at the games publisher is teased what's on tap
<v Speaker 2>for the future. This includes potential story DLC or even
<v Speaker 2>a full on sequel, but plans are still being formulated.
<v Speaker 2>Tim Willetts, the CEO of Saber Interactive, declined to share
<v Speaker 2>hard sales data, but said the game success can be
<v Speaker 2>dangerous for the studio. When you have a big hit
<v Speaker 2>you have and you have the internet kind of popularity,
<v Speaker 2>there's more passion and there's more responsibility for the quality
<v Speaker 2>that you do, and you look at yourself through a
<v Speaker 2>different lens, and sometimes that success lens can be a
<v Speaker 2>little dangerous because then you get so paranoid about making
<v Speaker 2>sure everything is great that you overstress about things.
<v Speaker 1>He told IGN. But it's that success lens that really
<v Speaker 1>drives amazing games.
<v Speaker 2>Into the future. So I do believe that through the
<v Speaker 2>success lens that we have we will just make far
<v Speaker 2>better products in the future. Do you think that Space
<v Speaker 2>Marine two is a sort of stepping stone for a
<v Speaker 2>studio like Saber Interactive.
<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry, so and Chat said okay, uncle Ben.
<v Speaker 2>And with great success comes great responsibility.
<v Speaker 3>I kind of hope so, because it seems like that's
<v Speaker 3>a really good game, right, Jeff.
<v Speaker 2>I think it's a really excellent one of those kinds
<v Speaker 2>of games like just okay, turn your brain off action
<v Speaker 2>kind of nothing doing it better than that recently, yeah.
<v Speaker 3>Trying your best Years of War.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, absolutely, without a doubt.
<v Speaker 2>Uh yeah, I think that it's the kind of thing
<v Speaker 2>where so, oh yeah, I think there should be at
<v Speaker 2>least a handful of these kinds of games every year.
<v Speaker 1>And I hope that we get a.
<v Speaker 2>Space Marine three and it's even bigger, Like yeah, so
<v Speaker 2>this is going to set them.
<v Speaker 1>Up to be like, okay, how do we follow this up?
<v Speaker 2>The thing I like about Saber those they do have
<v Speaker 2>a pretty varied library of games. They are the ones
<v Speaker 2>that do mud Runner and snow Runner. Now they're doing
<v Speaker 2>that Roadcraft game that I'm looking forward to, while also
<v Speaker 2>supporting Expeditions that just came out. They are a master
<v Speaker 2>work Crisis, right.
<v Speaker 3>And.
<v Speaker 1>Witcher to the Switch, which you're three on the Switch
<v Speaker 1>was them, and.
<v Speaker 3>It's like that's very diverse portfolio.
<v Speaker 2>They're very but they're very good at technology, like that's
<v Speaker 2>been their sort sort of thing, and I think it's uh,
<v Speaker 2>but I do think all that's kind of coming together
<v Speaker 2>where it's like, oh, they've been releasing solid hit after
<v Speaker 2>solid hit, and it was kind of like more likely
<v Speaker 2>than not that one of their games would come out
<v Speaker 2>and actually kind of turn into something of a.
<v Speaker 1>Smash rather than one thing comes out and takes them down.
<v Speaker 2>Like they're just doing quality work, and now that quality
<v Speaker 2>has reached a head to where now they can start
<v Speaker 2>looking at that, oh, should we be doing even more
<v Speaker 2>with these games? And Tim Willits has been doing this
<v Speaker 2>a very long time. I think he was he had
<v Speaker 2>three D Realms. I think yeah, he was on like, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>he was three D Realms for very long long time. Okay,
<v Speaker 2>and you know he was It's software as well. Yes,
<v Speaker 2>he was at its Software then with the three year rounds.
<v Speaker 2>So he's been just doing this a very long time.
<v Speaker 2>And I think he's kind of like, Okay, I see
<v Speaker 2>the studio where it's at and kind of well, the
<v Speaker 2>studio that honestly kind of a publisher now because they
<v Speaker 2>have a bunch of teams, right, can we take the
<v Speaker 2>success and parlay it into something more?
<v Speaker 1>Now?
<v Speaker 2>I agree with him that is dangerous, right, because you've
<v Speaker 2>been doing one kind of like one level of games
<v Speaker 2>for a very long time. If you start saying, okay,
<v Speaker 2>let's make a real triple A game, that's when budgets
<v Speaker 2>and risks can get out of control. Do you want
<v Speaker 2>that for a studio like this, So for any studio
<v Speaker 2>that's kind of operating in this middle section of the
<v Speaker 2>gaming industry.
<v Speaker 3>Right, I think that's that's important to take from his
<v Speaker 3>statement here is that the danger is from getting too
<v Speaker 3>ambitious because players want more and then things spiral out
<v Speaker 3>of control, like they are doing so many studios across
<v Speaker 3>the world. As we see, you know, on this very show.
<v Speaker 3>Every single day we get some kind of bad news.
<v Speaker 3>Oftentimes it's a layofsome and just wanting to make sure
<v Speaker 3>that you don't put yourself in a position where you
<v Speaker 3>scale up and then the reward isn't there and so
<v Speaker 3>you have to scale down, which is the painful part
<v Speaker 3>of all of this. So I see where the where
<v Speaker 3>the worry could come from here. I personally love that
<v Speaker 3>indies and more double A stuff is kind of making
<v Speaker 3>a resurgence. Indies have been here all along, just getting
<v Speaker 3>bigger and bigger, but now we also are seeing just
<v Speaker 3>smaller of what we used to call double A projects
<v Speaker 3>spinning up and those finding a place in the market because.
<v Speaker 2>We would have got that's like fifty to one hundred
<v Speaker 2>and fifty of on the Super Nintendo, like a Jurassic
<v Speaker 2>Park game. Well, Saber's doing Jurassic Parks Survival now, and
<v Speaker 2>it's like it's like kind of this new expression of
<v Speaker 2>that old idea.
<v Speaker 3>And if you can find a way to do it
<v Speaker 3>where you know, yeah, the graphics aren't going to blow
<v Speaker 3>you away, and you know, maybe there are some rough
<v Speaker 3>edges on the game plan stuff, but if a team
<v Speaker 3>of somewhere in that like maybe more I'm trying to
<v Speaker 3>think of where something like that would be because nowadays,
<v Speaker 3>like the teams being so big, maybe it's like, you know,
<v Speaker 3>somewhere in the twenty to thirty person range is where
<v Speaker 3>we're starting to get some of those smaller projects. I
<v Speaker 3>think what Tema soby you know, speak of Astroba, isn't
<v Speaker 3>even that big themselves. If we can see more of
<v Speaker 3>those smaller teams very smartly putting a project together, I
<v Speaker 3>think that's awesome. And if we can see them be
<v Speaker 3>more in that situation, I think that's cool. As someone
<v Speaker 3>in YouTube judges RoboCop Rogue City, that's yeah, that's a
<v Speaker 3>good example the kind of thing I'm talking about there,
<v Speaker 3>where yeah, they use the tools of Unreal Engine five
<v Speaker 3>to make that game look good while not needing to
<v Speaker 3>put a ton of work hours into it like you
<v Speaker 3>might have to with a giant Triple A game. I
<v Speaker 3>think the fact that we are starting to approach that
<v Speaker 3>that mentality again, I think it's gonna be good for
<v Speaker 3>the industry in general. So yeah, I think it's okay
<v Speaker 3>for not every studio to scale up that high to
<v Speaker 3>Triple A and have to worry about these things.
<v Speaker 1>Yep, exactly, And it's uh.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think that I prefer them in this
<v Speaker 2>zone of like, hey, we can have smaller teams or
<v Speaker 2>you know, like you said, relatively smaller teams putting out
<v Speaker 2>games that maybe do have rough edges, and then occasionally
<v Speaker 2>you might get one that is like Space Marine two
<v Speaker 2>where it's like.
<v Speaker 1>Does this have rough edges?
<v Speaker 2>I guess maybe like it lugged out on me a
<v Speaker 2>couple times, but it's like, in terms of the gameplay
<v Speaker 2>and the visuals, no complaints for me. Really, it's like
<v Speaker 2>it is the game I want. It plays the way
<v Speaker 2>I wanted to play. It's got a lot of fun stuff.
<v Speaker 2>They've had a bunch of variety. That Jetpeck level was
<v Speaker 2>a ton of fun, and then I love the way
<v Speaker 2>it looks where it's like the graphical fidelity is high enough.
<v Speaker 2>And then they just had a lot of fun playing
<v Speaker 2>around in the Warhammer forty k art space. So there
<v Speaker 2>are kind of no rough edges here. Now we'll see
<v Speaker 2>how that works out for like Drastic Parks Survival or
<v Speaker 2>that Toxic Commando game that he's doing that they're doing
<v Speaker 2>John Carpenter, or A Quiet Place the Road Ahead, any
<v Speaker 2>one of those could be like, oh, well, these have
<v Speaker 2>the rough edges that didn't the Space Marine two didn't have,
<v Speaker 2>So maybe it didn't get quite as much love.
<v Speaker 1>But there's still a fun game here.
<v Speaker 2>I if that's the level they're operating in, and then
<v Speaker 2>every once in a while they do have a Space
<v Speaker 2>Marine two.
<v Speaker 1>I think that's ideal. I hope they kind of continue down.
<v Speaker 2>That trajectory and don't try to make the next game
<v Speaker 2>of the year. Don't think of that way because you've
<v Speaker 2>put out games that I considered game of the year
<v Speaker 2>and you were not trying to do that. It's just
<v Speaker 2>I thought SnowRunner was that good.
<v Speaker 1>All right? Let's see here UK.
<v Speaker 2>In the UK, seventy five percent of video games sold
<v Speaker 2>during August twenty twenty four ver digital is from my
<v Speaker 2>Nintendo News. The United Kingdom, which is the largest video
<v Speaker 2>game market in Europe, continues to be adopting digital games
<v Speaker 2>at a staggering rate.
<v Speaker 1>With Games Industry data.
<v Speaker 2>And that's games I think that's Games industry dot is
<v Speaker 2>data revealing that seventy five percent of the games purchased
<v Speaker 2>during August twenty twenty four or digital editions rather than
<v Speaker 2>physical additions. The fact that we have no data caps
<v Speaker 2>and broadband speeds are reasonably fastest likely a big factor
<v Speaker 2>for that adoption. So how do you read this? Is
<v Speaker 2>this just a this is what people want, it's super convenient,
<v Speaker 2>or people save money and bought some digital consoles, and
<v Speaker 2>or the fact that there's you know, PC is all
<v Speaker 2>digital and that and people are going more towards PC,
<v Speaker 2>like how do you sort of make sense of this number?
<v Speaker 3>Okay, First of all, I'm gonna lead with yes, that
<v Speaker 3>is the reason, because God, data caps suck and they
<v Speaker 3>still exist here in the US. It's awful. Second, do
<v Speaker 3>we know if this specifically accounts for, you know, full
<v Speaker 3>retail games or is the data is still funky because
<v Speaker 3>it accounts for like micro transaction.
<v Speaker 1>I think this is for I think this is for
<v Speaker 1>full retail games.
<v Speaker 3>Yes, okay, because yeah, which I can see happen at
<v Speaker 3>this point, because more and more people just are going
<v Speaker 3>for the convenience factor. That's all it comes down to.
<v Speaker 3>You know, if you have more money than you have time,
<v Speaker 3>you don't worry about the physical copy anymore. You don't
<v Speaker 3>worry about going to the store, buying out on Amazon
<v Speaker 3>and wing for it. No, you just you spend however
<v Speaker 3>much money I guess spend, You download to your device
<v Speaker 3>and you just start playing around away because that the
<v Speaker 3>time you save is more valuable to you. I think
<v Speaker 3>you as an insanely busy person yourself, that's how you
<v Speaker 3>have felt, even outside of getting codes from your job. Right.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And also there's stat factor of I mean, that's
<v Speaker 2>definitely the biggest part of it. But there's the factor
<v Speaker 2>of h I got used to just having a device
<v Speaker 2>that has the stuff on it. That's how my computer works,
<v Speaker 2>it's how my laptop works, that's how my phone works,
<v Speaker 2>that's how my DS or my three ds began to work.
<v Speaker 2>Where it's like, oh, they started handing me a bunch
<v Speaker 2>of digital codes. So it's like, no, I just have
<v Speaker 2>this device open up and all the games are just
<v Speaker 2>right there in front of me.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that got so.
<v Speaker 2>Like compelling, And that's just the way I want the
<v Speaker 2>devices to work. And I think a lot of people
<v Speaker 2>just fall into that by default because their number one
<v Speaker 2>computing device is their phone, and that's the way their
<v Speaker 2>phones work, So that's what I think they expect. They
<v Speaker 2>expect their consoles to work that way, and they expect, like,
<v Speaker 2>that's the best way to buy stuff because that's just
<v Speaker 2>how it works on my phone.
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, because people do subconsciously think of all their
<v Speaker 3>devices as just interestingly, they almost think of it the
<v Speaker 3>opposite how you would expect, where I think hardcore gamers
<v Speaker 3>who are still on consoles think of that as a
<v Speaker 3>separate device that is treated separately, whereas the average person,
<v Speaker 3>like you said, does think of it as their phone,
<v Speaker 3>which is what they think of as their computer. So
<v Speaker 3>everything is kind of just all like a computer. And
<v Speaker 3>how do they use computers Now? They use apps, and
<v Speaker 3>so they want to just you know, download the app
<v Speaker 3>and whatever and have, like you said, everything in one place.
<v Speaker 3>This is something that we keep talking about around here
<v Speaker 3>of physical games are getting more and more niche. They
<v Speaker 3>are getting more and more boutique is the word we
<v Speaker 3>often use, and so I think that is where eventually
<v Speaker 3>they're going to end up because from the business side
<v Speaker 3>of things, it's just easier and better for the companies
<v Speaker 3>involved to just push out a download on whatever service
<v Speaker 3>and that person gets that, rather than going through the
<v Speaker 3>entire distribution chain of printing discs, getting them know, manufactured
<v Speaker 3>and put in packaging and then you got to ship
<v Speaker 3>on worry about I think some people maybe still don't
<v Speaker 3>realize how physical games are sold and the fact that
<v Speaker 3>you don't get like PlayStations selling directly to you or
<v Speaker 3>I think you got to think about theatribute. Yeah, they
<v Speaker 3>sell to a distributor which at the top to get.
<v Speaker 2>The big distributors down to down in America like in
<v Speaker 2>the last couple of years or something like that.
<v Speaker 3>And so I think I remember you giving a story. Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>never mind you you want to say you won't pay
<v Speaker 3>attention to this stuff white people listen to exactly.
<v Speaker 1>I feel like I heard it, but I don't remember.
<v Speaker 3>If we talked about it. Yeah, I think you did.
<v Speaker 3>I think yeah, because it trickles down from you know,
<v Speaker 3>the big console, the platform holder, down to the distributor,
<v Speaker 3>down to the big box store down to you just
<v Speaker 3>this whole chain that you gotta worry about there as
<v Speaker 3>opposed to just you know, any company that meets certification
<v Speaker 3>pops up on PSN or Steam or whatever. So I
<v Speaker 3>just think that's the direction all of this and moving in.
<v Speaker 3>And look, I'm someone where when it comes to console games,
<v Speaker 3>I still do buy physical because that's what how I
<v Speaker 3>like to own my games. I like to have that ownership.
<v Speaker 3>I like to be able to resell it if I
<v Speaker 3>want to, you know, loan it out all the stuff
<v Speaker 3>that they in that PS four reveal video. I like
<v Speaker 3>doing that still, And so that's how I choose to
<v Speaker 3>interact with my games. Well, it's non PC where the
<v Speaker 3>convenience factor massively outweighs our thing because I can't do
<v Speaker 3>things like play it on my Steam deck and whatnot,
<v Speaker 3>So I think there's a place for both. But yeah,
<v Speaker 3>physical mark is just shrinking.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I hope.
<v Speaker 2>What's going to happen now is I see this number
<v Speaker 2>seventy five percent and I'm like, okay, companies, you won
<v Speaker 2>it is it is basically effectively now all digital. Uh
<v Speaker 2>by that, I mean if you want to release a
<v Speaker 2>massive game and you don't want to print the physical copy,
<v Speaker 2>this is where we live in the world now, where
<v Speaker 2>you could probably get away with that, there would be
<v Speaker 2>some backlash. Oh yeah, but we've now that you know,
<v Speaker 2>balder Skate three came out and that you know the obvious.
<v Speaker 2>There are reasons why people are like not like oh yeah,
<v Speaker 2>it's a PC game first or whatever, then that's from
<v Speaker 2>a smaller company whatever, But yeah, games of the year,
<v Speaker 2>multiple games of the Year have now come out and
<v Speaker 2>didn't have physical versions when they launched, And it's like, okay,
<v Speaker 2>So if you only want to put out a physical
<v Speaker 2>addition later once you know the game is a success
<v Speaker 2>that has now happened, that is an accepted way of
<v Speaker 2>doing business, you have won. So can we just kind
<v Speaker 2>of find the equilibrium right around here? Seventy five percent
<v Speaker 2>digital twenty five percent physical. You know, there are going
<v Speaker 2>to be some people that will spend more money because
<v Speaker 2>something is physical, So try to keep them happy and
<v Speaker 2>take their money and then and to keep physical going
<v Speaker 2>as a relatively large boutique business. Of there are still
<v Speaker 2>people that go to stores. They still want to buy
<v Speaker 2>their games there, and kind of keep that thriving. Don't
<v Speaker 2>kill it entirely, and then realize five ten years from
<v Speaker 2>now that you wish you hadn't done that, Because that's
<v Speaker 2>what I feel like, that's where we're headed. If if
<v Speaker 2>these companies don't just sort of like come up with
<v Speaker 2>a model right now that makes it make sense, I.
<v Speaker 3>Think they are more and more turning two companies like
<v Speaker 3>Limited Run, who are doing good job of reaching out
<v Speaker 3>to these companies and where where they're willing to, you know,
<v Speaker 3>putting out these games on disc eventually, which oftentimes can
<v Speaker 3>be better in the long run. Now we live in
<v Speaker 3>the era of games needing a lot of patches because
<v Speaker 3>games are messy nowadays, and oftentimes if you get that
<v Speaker 3>physical copy later you get a superior version of the
<v Speaker 3>game on disc.
<v Speaker 2>The thing you actually want, which is the game that
<v Speaker 2>you can pull off the shelf twenty years from now,
<v Speaker 2>pop it in and it'll just work right.
<v Speaker 3>It's technically a complete edition, whereas you know, like we
<v Speaker 3>talked about on a BombCast ther day, but the disc
<v Speaker 3>that you buy nowadays, it's a misconception that there's like
<v Speaker 3>nothing onda is just a license to access to download
<v Speaker 3>now most of the time it does come with some
<v Speaker 3>kind of one point zero. But it's cool that like
<v Speaker 3>if you if one does come out layer down the road,
<v Speaker 3>that you'll getting you know, the the one point one
<v Speaker 3>nine or whatever that is, all the bugs are fixed,
<v Speaker 3>the performance is better all this than the other. It's
<v Speaker 3>you know, kind of a bummer if you only buy
<v Speaker 3>physical games and you would maybe have to wait to
<v Speaker 3>get a copy of the game. But at the same time,
<v Speaker 3>I feel like that audience is more prone to like
<v Speaker 3>being willing to wait for a game and say like
<v Speaker 3>I'll buy it on sale, her I'll wait till I
<v Speaker 3>fix it. So maybe, like you said, if we can
<v Speaker 3>reach this equilibrium, may everyone will win.
<v Speaker 2>I hope, So I think that, and I think it
<v Speaker 2>would be beneficial to everybody, Like you said, everybody.
<v Speaker 1>Could win if we do it that way. But we'll see.
<v Speaker 2>Beloved Skyrim YouTuber Grandma surely is finally retiring at age
<v Speaker 2>eighty eight from John Walker Kataku, I'll just yeah, everyone
<v Speaker 2>remembers this old lady that played Skyrim, and she played
<v Speaker 2>a ton She's been doing it forever. She says that
<v Speaker 2>she is now officially bored to death by it. So
<v Speaker 2>shout outs.
<v Speaker 1>To the grandma.
<v Speaker 2>Grandma, Shirley, you know everything you could possibly do with Skyrim,
<v Speaker 2>we get it.
<v Speaker 1>Go go go enjoy your retirement. That's that sounds good?
<v Speaker 1>She yes, she said, I'm old.
<v Speaker 2>And I'm tired, and I don't feel like doing it
<v Speaker 2>much anymore. Hell yeah, I can appreciate that at eighty
<v Speaker 2>eight and again she did it for forever.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and she's like, you know what, I've done everything
<v Speaker 3>and you do. I'm out.
<v Speaker 2>And she's like, it's not like I can go to
<v Speaker 2>Starfield that trash. It's all right, Grandma, you don't have
<v Speaker 2>to get some topic.
<v Speaker 1>Jesus, you didn't say that part, all right.
<v Speaker 3>I got a whole.
<v Speaker 1>Question coming up here in a second.
<v Speaker 2>While I get that set up, John, want you to
<v Speaker 2>tell people where they can find you on the internet
<v Speaker 2>what we have going on, all that good stuff.
<v Speaker 3>Dah, they find me over on Twitter. Dot Com still
<v Speaker 3>as Turbo Shawn Underscore Sahawn and you can find me
<v Speaker 3>here on Giant Bomb. Probably doing a lot this week
<v Speaker 3>because we've got people hitting it out all week long.
<v Speaker 1>So we'll be doing a lot.
<v Speaker 2>We'll figure out a lot if you have, You and
<v Speaker 2>Nikky want to come up with some fun stuff like this.
<v Speaker 1>It leads a couple of things, let me know, we'll
<v Speaker 1>make it happen.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we can do some, so we may, we may.
<v Speaker 3>We find the time because we've been in to our
<v Speaker 3>schedules to do like a grab bag stream like we've
<v Speaker 3>been talking about.
<v Speaker 1>Great.
<v Speaker 3>Yes, yeah, so three of us. I'll probably be run
<v Speaker 3>the show for the most part, and uh well, we'll
<v Speaker 3>figure some stuff out. We'll find some stuff for people asking.
<v Speaker 2>Infrastructure Week begins next week, so yes, yes, and thank you.
<v Speaker 2>I was worried about this too, like everyone's gonna be
<v Speaker 2>gone for Infrastructure Week. No, it's actually it began, John
<v Speaker 2>said of September.
<v Speaker 3>I think Jan said originally the last week of September,
<v Speaker 3>forgetting that the thirtieth was on Monday exactly.
<v Speaker 2>So we're doing that. Last day of September is when
<v Speaker 2>it starts. Yes, looking forward to that, don't worry Infrastructure
<v Speaker 2>Week will be in full force, of course.
<v Speaker 1>All right, let's see here, that's the new pool question.
<v Speaker 2>Let's see this is a movie on Netflix called a Netflix.
<v Speaker 3>Oh we did go with that one. Huh huh huh.
<v Speaker 1>And let's see here tam sixty said.
<v Speaker 2>No, thirty one percent said yes. Exclamation points h thirty
<v Speaker 2>one percent only said yes, so we get sixty nine
<v Speaker 2>percent no.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, shout outs to them.
<v Speaker 3>This is all orchestrated.
<v Speaker 2>Well done, Well done to all of you, the two
<v Speaker 2>point four thousand of you that voted on that. I'm
<v Speaker 2>not gonna call it netflick. I'm sorry, I just can't
<v Speaker 2>do it. It's it's too disgusting in the mouth. New
<v Speaker 2>pole question.
<v Speaker 1>Did you just vice or did you buy Space Brain
<v Speaker 1>two yet? Yes?
<v Speaker 2>Not yet, but I will or no, there it is.
<v Speaker 2>There's your poll question. I'll be interested to get the
<v Speaker 2>results of that on Games Mornings on Wednesday featuring Speaking
<v Speaker 2>of Games Mornings, So, like I said, returns Wednesday here
<v Speaker 2>on Giant Bomb, what else is happening on Giant Bomb.
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna go figure that out.
<v Speaker 3>We're gonna figure it out.
<v Speaker 1>Grab back sounds good. I don't know, you know, days, Sean,
<v Speaker 1>that seems like I should happen any second.
<v Speaker 3>I'm looking in the document here. I noticed that this
<v Speaker 3>note I left you about five months ago about leading
<v Speaker 3>stuff on a dog from five months ago still on here.
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, really really keeping up on things there are hard.
<v Speaker 1>Listen. That's what my brain works. I see the stuff
<v Speaker 1>that matters, and anything that's like, my.
<v Speaker 2>Brain's like, I don't think that matters, Jeff, It's like,
<v Speaker 2>oh that doesn't exist then, And it's just it's just
<v Speaker 2>like Dan was here. I might have told the story
<v Speaker 2>Dan was here for the wrestling, and we were do
<v Speaker 2>you forget about Dan? I didn't forget about Dan. You
<v Speaker 2>it's hard to forget about Dan. But yeah, we were
<v Speaker 2>looking at stuff on the computer here. I have connected
<v Speaker 2>to my TV so we could find a game for
<v Speaker 2>Mike to play for Blake Club.
<v Speaker 1>This is when we found alone in the.
<v Speaker 2>Dark and I had Discord pop up and I have
<v Speaker 2>all my Discord channels that have or servers that have
<v Speaker 2>huge notification numbers like one hundred and twenty one message
<v Speaker 2>and stuff like that.
<v Speaker 1>And he saw that. He's like, crub, how do you
<v Speaker 1>live like this? How do you does this not bother you?
<v Speaker 2>I don't even say I literally don't even see it.
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't register. It's just it's just colors.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Dan's like me in that way where we are
<v Speaker 3>we have to be in box zero. We see the
<v Speaker 3>numbers like, we have to address it on the same way.
<v Speaker 3>And so when I saw that you had the ninety
<v Speaker 3>nine plus on your DMS, I'm like, oh God, this
<v Speaker 3>is why we never get a hold of them.
<v Speaker 1>Shoot, it's a sick brain, that's right, all right. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>plenty of stuff will happen on Jiant Bomb. I'm actually
<v Speaker 1>looking forward to because we could just try some dumb
<v Speaker 1>stuff this week.
<v Speaker 2>It is kind of what I'm thinking, Yeah, we'll figure
<v Speaker 2>yourself out.
<v Speaker 1>Pompcast will happen tomorrow though.
<v Speaker 2>Blake Club, oh yeah, Blake Club not Wednesday, but we're
<v Speaker 2>kind of we don't want to miss an episode this
<v Speaker 2>week if we can avoid it, so it might happen
<v Speaker 2>as late as Friday. A lot of that will depend
<v Speaker 2>on how Dan is feeling is he gets back from
<v Speaker 2>his trip to the bullet Train, which are wherever that may.
<v Speaker 3>Be, Sean, Uh, what else do I do?
<v Speaker 2>I think I just say thank you, right, Sewan, thank
<v Speaker 2>you so much for hanging out with me today and
<v Speaker 2>talk about video games.
<v Speaker 1>I really appreciate it.
<v Speaker 3>Always a pleasure to be as a wild wild ride.
<v Speaker 2>Thank you all for listening, Thank you all for watching.
<v Speaker 2>You're the best audience in gaming. Until next time, have
<v Speaker 2>a good one, take care of yourself.
<v Speaker 1>Goodbye,