The One Where Tom Schwartz Talks VPR & The Valley

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Schwartzy drops in to talk about The Valley and that final season of Vanderpump Rules. Is he happy with how things were left? And has he met any of the new cast? He also talks Summer House, shuttering Schwartz & Sandy’s, dating and kids, and he shares an update on his new real-life neighbor, Jax Taylor.

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00:00:06
Speaker 1: Hello, gorgeous, it is yours truly, Laala Kent, Welcome to my podcast. I've got another fellow gorgeous than rand Pump. What's that Tom for?

00:00:17
Speaker 2: What's up? Should have you here?

00:00:19
Speaker 3: I know it is?

00:00:20
Speaker 4: You have already put me in a great mood.

00:00:22
Speaker 2: Wow, just like that, I'm getting a lot of love today.

00:00:25
Speaker 1: Well, we did a bonus episode where Easton came out of nowhere with his love for Tom Schwartz.

00:00:31
Speaker 2: You professed your love publicly. Privately we have a thing going on.

00:00:37
Speaker 1: I didn't say it, but yeah, all right, Tom's moving into the back house.

00:00:41
Speaker 3: Your house so much.

00:00:44
Speaker 5: Really for someone who loves it so much, you never come over.

00:00:47
Speaker 2: I know I'm coming to see.

00:00:51
Speaker 1: This is a friendship that needs to happen.

00:00:53
Speaker 2: I've been a hermit lately. Although I was out of my I was out of my shell. This weekend we had we had World Dog Day, which you will and showed some love and I met the whole cast from vander Pump Villa. Shut they're coolest.

00:01:04
Speaker 1: Ship vander Pump Villa, not the new cast of Van I've met.

00:01:08
Speaker 2: I did one scene. I don't know if I'm allowed to talk about that.

00:01:10
Speaker 5: But well, I love it.

00:01:12
Speaker 2: They're like, hey, you want to pop in? I was like, yeah, I'll pop in, yeah, pop in? Hello, you want to pop off? Trying to get pop? How much are you paint me trying to get pop?

00:01:21
Speaker 5: You're trying to get pop or you're trying to get along. You're the one that chooses.

00:01:25
Speaker 2: That just came out my algorithm this morning, because I have no like Bravo stuff on my TikTok algorithm. Purposely. I don't want Instagram. I don't mind it, but I like to keep my TikTok pure. But I saw you in your famous line.

00:01:37
Speaker 1: Oh god with a T shirt of my own face? What the fuck?

00:01:41
Speaker 2: Wait? Are we still giving them la la?

00:01:43
Speaker 5: You know I'd like to stop at some point.

00:01:45
Speaker 2: That's what you told me.

00:01:46
Speaker 1: It feels a little juvenile, and it reminds me of a time in my life that I'm just no longer.

00:01:52
Speaker 2: In Yeah me, It's like, I don't think it's sophomore, but I could see how you might feel that way.

00:01:57
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know when you like, I feel like I'm a butterfly who's finally come out of the cocoon and we got to switch it up, which I'm sure you can relate.

00:02:04
Speaker 5: To that as well.

00:02:05
Speaker 2: Truly, I can. I feel like I had a little metamorphosis myself after shorts and Sandy's.

00:02:10
Speaker 5: Well, you've been through a lot.

00:02:12
Speaker 2: It's up there with Dog.

00:02:16
Speaker 5: He had a lizard.

00:02:18
Speaker 2: It was a.

00:02:20
Speaker 3: It's a reptile of name dog.

00:02:23
Speaker 2: It's such as an x.

00:02:24
Speaker 5: It's a difficult gods vilophone. We had a we had a funeral for Dog. We did season eight.

00:02:32
Speaker 2: Oh you were there, La La, fuck you Tom. We were about to go on a hard time for him. We were about to go on a cast trip. I think to Mexico. Yes, And I woke up and Dog was dead. He wasn't moving, he wasn't responding. I poured water on him. I was freaking out. I tried.

00:02:48
Speaker 3: I tried to revive.

00:02:50
Speaker 2: Him, but it was too too little, too late.

00:02:52
Speaker 5: What was Katie's responses, you were trying to revive him.

00:02:55
Speaker 2: She's just like I remember, I was crying. I buried him in the backyard. And I'm a lover and I'm a good parent, like you say, I take care of my dogs. I'm a good animal parent, you know what I mean. It just he was sick from the get go. How old was he?

00:03:08
Speaker 1: He had liked just gotten it.

00:03:09
Speaker 2: He's like a year old.

00:03:10
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you had literally.

00:03:13
Speaker 2: Just are they like goldfish though, like you only got so much time? No, they can live like twenty years.

00:03:18
Speaker 1: I think, well, they got some life on them. He just like came into the world sick.

00:03:23
Speaker 2: Are we gonna do an episode on dog?

00:03:25
Speaker 1: No, not a full episode because people will fast forward.

00:03:28
Speaker 2: I remember when we had we had a scene we were at the mandre on Skybar, remember, for his Little Wake, And I remember Jeremiah was like, I think Vanderbulpooles has finally jumped the shark. He's like, this is it for us? And we were laughing about it because it was so ridiculous.

00:03:43
Speaker 1: By the way, though, it was almost done after that, and then we made it to season nine.

00:03:48
Speaker 5: By the skin of our teeth.

00:03:50
Speaker 2: I feel like we had a few good seasons left in US and the further I get away, I know it was the right decision to end, but I feel like we had a couple more in us.

00:03:57
Speaker 1: You know what. Don't even get me started on that, because you know how life works. If something happens and you're okay with it, and you make peace with it in the moment, and then time passes and you're like, I'm bored, I'm going to contemplate, and then you start thinking, and I'm like, I feel like we had a little life left in us.

00:04:16
Speaker 2: We did do you are you replaying Season eleven in your head? Yeah? I do that often.

00:04:20
Speaker 5: I did well.

00:04:21
Speaker 1: I do that often where I beat myself up and look back and go, you know, you were so in your own emotions and healing process that you couldn't, for one moment take a step back and say someone's in their healing process and you demanded something from them that they quite literally were doing. They were showing up, they were filming, and I think I needed this time to be able to sit back and say, like, you know, you're bad again, you know.

00:04:54
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't love the way it ended, But also in my mind, it's just I was in San Francisco. It kind of felt like we were all family again, at least a little bit. I know there was still a riff obviously with Ariana, but it felt like a kind of we were one happy family again. In the wharf, I remember Brock was dancing in his gold suit.

00:05:12
Speaker 1: Yeah.

00:05:12
Speaker 2: Life felt kind of good.

00:05:14
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I made a vow to myself going into that finale. I was like, I will not pop off like I'm chilling. I'm chilling, like I have brought everyone's brought it, and like, now let's just chill. And it did not. Every time I tell myself to chill is when shit goes left real fucking quick.

00:05:34
Speaker 2: We were pretty chill, right, you were? Yeah? I phoned it in. I phoned in the last episode ever. I was just so happy to be there really in the moment, I don't I didn't film many scenes. Yeah, I just kind of checked out a society in the happiest way possible.

00:05:53
Speaker 1: Is it weird to look back and be like, Wow, it's been two years since I've been on TV.

00:05:58
Speaker 2: It's insane. I can't believe we did eleven seasons.

00:06:01
Speaker 1: I can't believe you guys did eleven seasons.

00:06:03
Speaker 2: I got eleven more in me. Let's run.

00:06:06
Speaker 5: Let's fucking run.

00:06:07
Speaker 1: It Is it weird adjusting to like life outside of that world or do you feel you know?

00:06:13
Speaker 5: I look, I look at people like.

00:06:17
Speaker 1: Britney Stass who were not on TV for a significant amount of time, and they still remained very much relevant in the world of like the Bravo universe and outside of it. Do you feel like things have taken a turn where you don't really know what direction you're going, or do you feel at peace?

00:06:38
Speaker 2: I feel at peace. Yeah, I still feel relevant. Yeah, I'm in a good place. Ever since Schwartz and Sandy's closed, I feel like I got my life back. Someone told me Saturday, I was in my healing era. You got an hour agoing right now. You seem so much more at peace than the last time I saw you, because I felt like I was constantly floundering at Schwartz and Sandy's, just trying to keep the doors open, the bills paid.

00:07:00
Speaker 3: Like when you go out, you can't even enjoy being out, or.

00:07:02
Speaker 2: Like every trip I would go on, I'm not going to cry about Shorts and Sandy's. I'm at peace with that, but like, yeah, every trip I would be like, oh my god, how is this going to affect my bank account? It's not being there, and you show up and you do everything you can and still have to wire a ton of money at the end of the month to cover the bills. It's a horrible feeling.

00:07:18
Speaker 1: What was that conversation, like when you decided to close the doors.

00:07:21
Speaker 2: I think the day we decided to set a date. We all we all hopped on a phone call. We decided including yeah, all of us decided, and we hired them a little to we put together a game plan and a little team to close out. And then the next day I found out that Vandon Pumpoolz was coming back too, So it was like double whammy.

00:07:40
Speaker 1: Double whammy. But also, if you want to look at like the silver lining, you know, a paycheck that's no longer there to fund this bar.

00:07:50
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, it's I learned a lot, but it almost broke me. But I'm still standing.

00:07:56
Speaker 5: And we're very glad that you are.

00:07:58
Speaker 2: And I'm self conscious today because I feel boring.

00:08:01
Speaker 1: By the way.

00:08:01
Speaker 5: No, we've kicked this off so fun.

00:08:03
Speaker 4: I enjoy I'm just sitting over here just enjoying the conversation.

00:08:06
Speaker 1: You're not boring, like even when you feel fat.

00:08:10
Speaker 2: What Oh?

00:08:11
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, well we're having body dysmorphia.

00:08:15
Speaker 2: I thought I was going through it.

00:08:17
Speaker 1: You know, there there are things that I'll see online about you know a lot of reality TV people and it'll say, you know, oh, so and so's not on this show anymore, and they're thirsty for a job. And I'm sitting here, and I'm like, could you imagine the real world?

00:08:32
Speaker 2: Right?

00:08:33
Speaker 1: You work for a company, paper company. Let's just say you're in the office, yes, and it closes down. Would you ever in a million years be like, did you hear Jan in marketing? Since we closed down, she's looking for another fucking job with a loser?

00:08:49
Speaker 5: I know, Yes, we're looking for jobs.

00:08:52
Speaker 2: That's a great refreshing way to frame it.

00:08:55
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, what the fuck do you we're looking?

00:08:58
Speaker 1: Yes?

00:08:58
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like being we're all looking for jobs.

00:09:01
Speaker 1: The bills ain't paying themselves. Brother, I'm gonna need someone to give me a fucking job.

00:09:09
Speaker 2: Real though. I love podcasting.

00:09:11
Speaker 5: How is the podcast going?

00:09:12
Speaker 2: I love it?

00:09:13
Speaker 1: I love the name of your podcast.

00:09:15
Speaker 2: What is the name? Tell us Detox Retox.

00:09:18
Speaker 5: It's so good.

00:09:19
Speaker 2: It's my quest for greatness and I thought i'd bring the audience along for the ride too.

00:09:23
Speaker 5: So what is it like?

00:09:24
Speaker 1: What's the structure of Okay.

00:09:25
Speaker 2: So each week we're nurishing, maybe we're detoxing. One week we nourish the mind, body, soul, you know, and then the next week we indulge a little bit. We're not going to feel bad about feeling good, but we're trying to make gains Like I feel like I've been in a deficit the past ten years, you know what I mean? Yeah, partying too much? I haven't. I've lost like my cheek, I flow, and I'm getting that back. I feel it too. I feel just more structured and regimented. But I'm still having fun. I'm still ripping jellow shots at the Bayou.

00:09:57
Speaker 5: Ranges, Jenno Willis, Zach Wickham.

00:10:00
Speaker 2: Yes, are you guys all cool? I love those guys.

00:10:03
Speaker 1: Me and Jenna, Yeah, well, Jenna is my my road dog. Like Zach Zach, I'm cool with him. He likes to beef with himself in the comments section about me, he does.

00:10:13
Speaker 5: Yeah.

00:10:14
Speaker 2: Oh, also though lovely things about you.

00:10:17
Speaker 1: Really.

00:10:17
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've never heard a bad word come out of his mouth and.

00:10:20
Speaker 1: Well in the public that is news to us that I've always when I've been around him, had nothing but a gleeful time.

00:10:28
Speaker 2: Yeah. He's been a champion for Tom Tom because things haven't been great in West Hollywood, but I feel like it's kind of getting its pulse back a little bit.

00:10:34
Speaker 1: Why do you think things haven't been great? As someone who is in the bar industry, why is it slow?

00:10:40
Speaker 2: Man? It's a brutal business.

00:10:41
Speaker 4: Because we talked about this on another podcast of Why We.

00:10:44
Speaker 1: Think Well, I said that the city's been dead since COVID.

00:10:49
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just never his fault, the same after COVID.

00:10:51
Speaker 5: It hasn't.

00:10:52
Speaker 1: But then there were people in the DMS and comments section, They're like, Hello, we can't afford to go out.

00:10:58
Speaker 2: It's so expensive every tab I go, If I go to dinner with someone, it's minimum two hundred dollars and have a couple of martinis, and like it's always two or three hundred dollars easily.

00:11:07
Speaker 4: We don't even drink and we go out and it's still ong, like outrageous, like without cocktails on the bill.

00:11:13
Speaker 5: Yeah.

00:11:14
Speaker 1: I mean the other night we ordered I think it was like fast food, and I got out of it at like eighty six dollars and I was like, fuck, yes, I fed three people for less than one hundred dollars. Fucking winning.

00:11:28
Speaker 2: I know, it's such a good feeling. It feels like a little w You got to celebrate your little wins. You know, it's crushing it right now, and I wish we could go there after for a triple dipper. Chili's crushed it. Last quarter up thirty one percent because it's so affordable. The food's pretty dang good.

00:11:44
Speaker 5: Well, the food's epic.

00:11:45
Speaker 2: I love cheese, Chili's.

00:11:47
Speaker 5: Go to me Love Chili.

00:11:48
Speaker 2: We do an episode form my podcast at Chili's.

00:11:51
Speaker 5: You want that to be our retalk?

00:11:52
Speaker 2: Is that okay?

00:11:54
Speaker 5: Or is that our details?

00:11:55
Speaker 2: We're going to go on a sober bender if you want to join us Easton. If I'm invited, I am there. That's a reoccurring Chilies. Yeah, Chili's. I Chili's and ironically love Chili's.

00:12:04
Speaker 1: Do you go to the one in Encino? Are you more of a postmader?

00:12:07
Speaker 2: I usually only go to Chili's when I'm back in Florida. Really, Hey, Katie had post maded it a few times. I remember when we had the crib.

00:12:14
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, because it's right there.

00:12:16
Speaker 2: I remember. Sorry, I'm jumping around right now. I remember there was there was like something went viral there talking about how Kylie Jenner spent spent over ten thousand dollars on post mats, and I remember me and Katie looked at each other like that's it is that bad? I swear we had spent like twenty grand on Postmates in like twenty nineteen, the thing, Oh my.

00:12:36
Speaker 1: God, can I tell you what's kicking my ass right now? I find going to the grocery store to be such a waste of someone's time and energy. So we do Instacart, and it's like, I don't even care what the upcharge is because it's worth it not having to get in my car and go there.

00:12:55
Speaker 4: Well, I find out I save money on Postmates because like, I pick what I need.

00:13:00
Speaker 2: If I'm at the grocery store, I will just like walk the.

00:13:03
Speaker 3: Island and be like that looks good.

00:13:04
Speaker 2: So me paying the.

00:13:06
Speaker 4: Delivery fee, I'm actually saving money not getting fifteen other items I did not need. How I look at it might be lying to myself, but I feel pretty.

00:13:15
Speaker 2: Good about it.

00:13:15
Speaker 1: But now like I'm posts, we're doing Postmates for our actual meals, and then I'm going to the grocery store via Instacart, So there's delivery charges on top of delivery charges, and I don't give one shit because I cannot get my time back.

00:13:29
Speaker 5: But I can always figure out a way to.

00:13:31
Speaker 1: Make more money, like showing a nipple on.

00:13:35
Speaker 4: Don't laughing about this only fans, but it really is amount of.

00:13:40
Speaker 2: Time you would crush. You'd probably be set for life in a couple of years. But what if you do it and you got your ass spread or whatever, and like you don't make any it would be it would be so depressings for seven dollars.

00:13:53
Speaker 1: No, right, but that's up. What I would do is so I have super bottle toes. They're very long. I would play with different kinds of sausages with my feet.

00:14:06
Speaker 2: Okay, you're niching down. I like this.

00:14:09
Speaker 1: I'm in So then if I don't make any money, it's like, well, no, ship, you didn't make any money.

00:14:13
Speaker 5: Look at what you were doing. And then if you did make a ton of money, You're like, holy shit, this was genius. There's no downside.

00:14:19
Speaker 2: I like that. You have a vision, have you guys? I've discussed this.

00:14:23
Speaker 5: No, this is the first time I've ever my only fans with my brothers.

00:14:26
Speaker 2: Gonna have to shoot this.

00:14:28
Speaker 1: By the way, I kept Easton off of the Britney episode thinking we were going to talk about sex.

00:14:32
Speaker 5: We didn't talk one thing about sex.

00:14:34
Speaker 2: Here we are.

00:14:35
Speaker 3: What the fuck I didn't know you had?

00:14:37
Speaker 2: Like do you have you have a foot fetish type of thing or you just have great.

00:14:41
Speaker 1: I have great. I don't have great feet. I just like to look at the world and go there's a lot of suckers out there.

00:14:47
Speaker 5: So if I.

00:14:47
Speaker 1: Really, you know, hit on hard times, need a pay. I mean, you need to send Ocean to private school.

00:14:53
Speaker 4: If I were and I hit hard times, I think I'm selling my used panties.

00:15:00
Speaker 5: It's disgusting.

00:15:00
Speaker 3: It's always parts in a jar. I'm not kidding you disgusting men out there.

00:15:06
Speaker 5: You guys, I'm gonna vomit. And I don't know how it took this turn.

00:15:10
Speaker 2: Like in Japan betting machines where you can get women's used underwear.

00:15:15
Speaker 5: I'm disgusted.

00:15:16
Speaker 2: I love Japan. I don't want that to be the audience's first impression of my impression of Japan. I love Japan. I just got back.

00:15:26
Speaker 1: What part of Japan did you go?

00:15:27
Speaker 2: We did Tokyo and Kyoto, both lovely.

00:15:31
Speaker 1: I have heard that it is spectacular, and I told my family next year we're going to Tokyo.

00:15:38
Speaker 2: Just plan on it, you guys. I promise I will vouch for it. I will reimburse you for your trip if you don't like it.

00:15:44
Speaker 1: Wow, what kind of money are you making? He's just really hoping to go by flat five star hotel.

00:15:50
Speaker 2: I did. Okay, let's just get into it. I did fly. I flied Economy plus because I didn't want to. It was like, I think, sit up straight, the seats were decent and they went halfway down. I didn't want to drop like six racks on a ticket.

00:16:04
Speaker 1: Yeah.

00:16:04
Speaker 2: I guess it's like the first time we got first class, which is really nice. It makes a huge difference. I'm not bougie, but like, if I'm flying ten hours, I kind of want to lay down you and me. Yeah, I want to sleep you guys, Okay, Like I don't want to get into that. Do you mind flying economy Yeah?

00:16:22
Speaker 3: No, depends on how long.

00:16:23
Speaker 2: And like if I gotta fly.

00:16:25
Speaker 4: If it's over four hours, I need like business plus.

00:16:30
Speaker 1: So my mom books our tickets to Hawaii, and every time she has put us in comfort plus. Yeah, and every time gets pissed. I make a scene and I'm like, never fucking again, I'm done with this.

00:16:44
Speaker 4: To lay down, Oh, Lisa, as we're putting the bags up, Lisa, I don't know why I let you do this every time.

00:16:52
Speaker 1: Once we get going and we're in there and I go that was a great flight, but two kids, you can't pop.

00:16:59
Speaker 2: It's gonna be alert. How's your beautiful babies?

00:17:03
Speaker 1: Beautiful babies, beautiful babies.

00:17:06
Speaker 5: I have no complaints in the kid departments.

00:17:09
Speaker 2: They're so adorable.

00:17:10
Speaker 5: By the way, I.

00:17:10
Speaker 1: Did the Kelly Stafford podcast, Yeah, and they asked me what vander Pump cast member I would choose as my baby daddy or my sperm do? I said you, And I was like, I don't feel like he'd give me a hard time.

00:17:22
Speaker 2: I'm so easy loud, You're so We don't see each other a ton, but I consider you one of my best friends.

00:17:27
Speaker 1: I have a very soft spot in my heart for you, and I consider you a dear friend.

00:17:31
Speaker 2: I love you.

00:17:32
Speaker 5: I love you too.

00:17:32
Speaker 2: I could not see either of you for five years, and we would just pick right back up where we left off.

00:17:37
Speaker 1: But don't you feel like those are called evolved friendships because as you get older, it is natural for people to start businesses, get married, have children. If you base your friendship on seeing someone every day or talking to them every day, that like, I'm not going to be a good friend to you because multiple occasions where I don't text you back, I'm not going to see you for long periods of time. You have to be able to pick up where you left off.

00:18:06
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm loyal, but I manage my expectations, like I don't expect anything from anybody really, and if you cancel on me, I'm okay with that too. Maybe not like the moment of but I never get mad at my friends for like backing out of plans or saying they're tired. Do they want to stay in? I'm like, you do you boom?

00:18:21
Speaker 5: Do you feel like you get walked on because you're so chill? Sometimes?

00:18:24
Speaker 2: No? No, I have healthy boundaries now. Really, I've learned to say no. That's what I'm working on right now.

00:18:32
Speaker 5: Healthy boundaries.

00:18:33
Speaker 4: Yeah, and like saying no even when I don't want to, because that's what will stem anxiety, Like if I don't want to do something, but like I'm the type of person where no, saying no is harder than whatever I'm about to do. Yeah, so I rather deal with my anxiety and doing that than like the hardness like I said.

00:18:49
Speaker 1: Of like no, right, I usually put things off. I'm like, I don't want to do that, but I'll commit now to save me from having to be uncomfortable right now and I'll just be uncomfortable later when I canceled.

00:18:59
Speaker 2: Yeah, I will never be upset. If you guys can't.

00:19:01
Speaker 5: Slo on me, that's good because I'll do it.

00:19:03
Speaker 2: But I do want to hang this week and I probably do want to go to Chili's.

00:19:06
Speaker 1: We will always go to Chili's with you.

00:19:09
Speaker 2: Why can't we?

00:19:09
Speaker 1: It's actually seeing how much we go.

00:19:12
Speaker 4: Can I make a plan for this weekend? And I'm serious, I do. We should have Chilis at the house.

00:19:16
Speaker 5: With my bum.

00:19:17
Speaker 2: Are we going to Chili's or are we doing a Chili's pool day?

00:19:20
Speaker 1: We can do whatever Schwartzy wants.

00:19:22
Speaker 2: I want to try this Triple Dipper. There's a lot of hype.

00:19:25
Speaker 1: There's a lot of hype on the Triple Dipper.

00:19:27
Speaker 2: The Triple Dipper. This man in a frenzy. Yeah, what is it?

00:19:32
Speaker 1: Is there?

00:19:32
Speaker 2: Cheese sticks, yep, yep? Wings? What else? I'm losing something like that?

00:19:41
Speaker 1: You know, I love me some case of dips.

00:19:42
Speaker 2: Puffy, I get puffy immediately now, Oh.

00:19:45
Speaker 5: I wake up looking like my eyes are Yeah.

00:19:49
Speaker 2: And we were like a sushi kick for a minute and that's.

00:19:52
Speaker 1: When I was Yeah, my my ocean love sushi. So it's something that we eat on the regular, and I was worried she was going to have mercury poisoning. I was like, we cannot have it one more day.

00:20:02
Speaker 2: Ocean like sushi, Yes, that's so cute.

00:20:05
Speaker 1: You want salmon sashimi with Atamammy sophisticated palette? Yeah, you know I I raise sophisticated palette, that is for sure.

00:20:17
Speaker 5: Do you want kids?

00:20:18
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, yeah, I think I think I'm one of my second second episode I was talking about I think it's probably my biggest insecurity in life, just not having a family.

00:20:27
Speaker 1: How old are you?

00:20:28
Speaker 2: Forty two? I want kids so bad, but I don't want to rush it. I've seen disastrous consequences of people who rush it or just you know, pick somebody and it doesn't work out all of a sudden, there's a long drawn out custody battle.

00:20:43
Speaker 4: Have you ever thought about doing it by yourself?

00:20:46
Speaker 1: That's the other thing. Do you want kids or do you want a family? Because there's a big difference, and not that I don't have a family.

00:20:53
Speaker 5: I have a family, but some a lot of people say I.

00:20:57
Speaker 1: Couldn't do it on my own because I want a partner to create my family unit with is that what you create.

00:21:02
Speaker 2: I want a family. I feel like you you wear that hat well though as a single, single single Yes, yeah, you do it so well and so effortlessly. I know it's a lot of work, but you make it look effortless.

00:21:14
Speaker 5: Well, thank you.

00:21:15
Speaker 2: And I know you're a great mom.

00:21:17
Speaker 5: Thank you.

00:21:18
Speaker 1: Yeah you want kids, Yeah you would. I think you would make like a really sweet.

00:21:23
Speaker 4: Like even I mean, yes, you want the wife, but that's me right now, is like, I just I really want kids, and I feel like I could just do it by myself.

00:21:31
Speaker 2: Just I mean, seeing you, I feel like that's the reason why.

00:21:33
Speaker 1: Imagine the household of Easton just went out and got an egg donor do you imagine?

00:21:37
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just take care the family.

00:21:41
Speaker 5: Been through to make them just relationship.

00:21:45
Speaker 2: We just want kids.

00:21:46
Speaker 5: Isn't it hard to date?

00:21:48
Speaker 2: No, it's it's one thing. I've always been really lucky with relationships my whole life. Question I've ever dated is fucking fabulous. I'm so lucky. I feel like I've hit the lottery, like five times. Where do you? Where are you meeting these women?

00:22:01
Speaker 4: Do you have a are you on dating apps or are you organic?

00:22:04
Speaker 2: God? No, I hate dating apps. I had Hinge for like one week.

00:22:07
Speaker 1: After a lot of people are meeting their mate on hinge right now. I like the news.

00:22:11
Speaker 3: No, I've never had a date.

00:22:13
Speaker 4: I've never had a dating profile a dating app, and it's usually been organic or like Instagram or something.

00:22:18
Speaker 2: But it's to the point.

00:22:19
Speaker 4: Where like it's I think that's the new move. Like that's even where you find like friends. I've known people who were like, yeah, we went on a date, and we like didn't It wasn't like that, but now we're really good friends and like they hang out with each other's.

00:22:34
Speaker 2: Luke and Kristen met on a dating app, right what? No?

00:22:37
Speaker 5: No, no, no, they didn't. They met at a wedding.

00:22:39
Speaker 1: Tell me the last person that you how long ago was it that you dated? Last person that you dated? How long ago?

00:22:45
Speaker 2: Wash? Let's see. I mean, I guess we never formally dated, but I love her madly and still do. She's one of my best friends. But we're not dating. This is not a schwartzy commitment thing. It's just she didn't want to really take it there. But we're still really good friends, so I mean, we're still hang out a lot. But I guess technically I'm single, but I'm not advertising it. I'm just laying low.

00:23:04
Speaker 1: So you're not looking to date right now?

00:23:07
Speaker 2: I mean not right now?

00:23:09
Speaker 1: I get that.

00:23:10
Speaker 4: Yeah, but if something were to present itself, I mean, you're not against it.

00:23:15
Speaker 2: I guess I'm not looking for love.

00:23:17
Speaker 1: I feel like you know, I think when people say when you're not looking is when it finds you. It's like, well, I'm not looking at it ain't find any So that's absolutely untrue.

00:23:26
Speaker 2: Well maybe you got to look in the mirror.

00:23:28
Speaker 1: Maybe I need to leave the room, leave the one room that I stay in. But I think that that is when you say I'm not looking for it. When you go out, there's something that happens subconsciously, where there's a block up that's going to make chicks not want to approach you, because it is something that I feel is an energy when you go out right. Yes, And that's why I was wondering if it's hard for you to date, because for me, if I go out and the type of dude that I'm interested, then he's not gonna know who the fuck I am, what I do. He's most likely never heard of Bravo or vander Pump rules.

00:24:08
Speaker 2: Is there green flags?

00:24:09
Speaker 1: Or it's not green. No, it's just most dudes that I would be into, don't They're not in this world now for you a dude on Bravo, which is primarily females watching, Do you ever wonder what the intention is like they most likely know exactly who you are or know of you.

00:24:31
Speaker 2: No, I'm so I'm so lucky this is People are gonna be rolling their eyes, but I'm so lucky. It just happens so effortlessly with me. I always been lucky with women. I don't know.

00:24:41
Speaker 1: I just like a James Kennedy situation where every girlfriend has been a fan of the show.

00:24:46
Speaker 2: No, no, I don't think I've ever dated a fangirl. Wow, i'vey was always in a relationship the whole time on TV. You know, me and Katie got divorced in twenty twenty two, right, Yeah, so I was always in a relationship.

00:24:58
Speaker 1: And then I feel like the girl who dressed you for the reunion, correct me if I'm wrong. It was kind of a deal breaker that you were on that show because it brought a lot of unwanted attention to her.

00:25:09
Speaker 2: I think, I mean, listen, she's fiercely independent, but yeah, she didn't love getting like reduced to Tom Schwartz's girlfriend. It wasn't a at me, but like, she just she just got on the scene, you know. By the way, she's crushing it. Shout out to shop Sosco. That's her business. She's a vintage.

00:25:22
Speaker 5: Is that it's a vintage.

00:25:24
Speaker 2: See she has like the best collection in the best style of any person I've ever met in my life. Wow, she's crushing it right now. So shout out to her shop. It's it's in our apartment. Wow, getting a new showroom. But yeah, she's crushing it.

00:25:37
Speaker 5: I would like to look at the vintage clothes.

00:25:38
Speaker 3: That's where I got these.

00:25:40
Speaker 2: Yeah, pantaloons, baby looked fly as hell. By the way, can we talk about your cool.

00:25:47
Speaker 1: I'm just surviving the day.

00:25:48
Speaker 2: You guys compliment each other.

00:25:50
Speaker 5: Nice, really nice of you.

00:25:52
Speaker 4: I walked in the house and my mom goes, she's in brown too. I went, well, ship, this is a good color for you, laala brown.

00:25:59
Speaker 5: Well, chocolate brown is good for everybody.

00:26:01
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're looking at what I love.

00:26:02
Speaker 1: About olive green and chocolate brown. Is that no matter the skin tone, no eye color, it looks good.

00:26:08
Speaker 4: I will disagree with you. You look very good in that color. I don't think a lot of people look good in brown.

00:26:13
Speaker 3: Travis Scott, Yeah, Travis Scott.

00:26:15
Speaker 4: When his brown started coming out with Cactus Jack, so many people.

00:26:18
Speaker 2: Were wearing brown and not a lot of people look crazy.

00:26:21
Speaker 5: That's very interesting. I guess it's the right shade of brown.

00:26:24
Speaker 1: When you go into filming a show, do you have a stylist or are you just like, like, does someone hand to pick your slides out for you?

00:26:32
Speaker 2: By the way, they're gonna be so mad. I do have stylists. Shout out to the Solomon sisters, and they hate these dingy, dusty black vans. I just slide them on. They're so easy to put on, but they hate these.

00:26:43
Speaker 5: Are they velvet?

00:26:44
Speaker 2: Yeah? I'm sorry you guys.

00:26:45
Speaker 4: What's so crazy is like I didn't say anything, but when I walked in, like, I loved the same thing.

00:26:51
Speaker 2: But I like the velvet. I like, just like a thin shoe looks like you're not wearing anything.

00:26:56
Speaker 5: It's almost like, wow, it's a dress sho No it's not.

00:26:58
Speaker 1: It's a vand slippers.

00:27:00
Speaker 3: It almost looks like a penny loafer.

00:27:02
Speaker 2: Velvet's always I always thought velvet was sexy. I'm not saying these are sexy any means, but velvet is sexy. I think it's so.

00:27:09
Speaker 5: Sexy because Sanza draped in velvet.

00:27:12
Speaker 4: Villain.

00:27:12
Speaker 1: Yes, that's all I want.

00:27:14
Speaker 2: Loving the Seinfeld references.

00:27:15
Speaker 1: Here, are you appearing in any more Bravo like you appear on The Valley?

00:27:22
Speaker 2: Yeah, a little bit on the Valley?

00:27:24
Speaker 1: Is it weird?

00:27:25
Speaker 2: Not at all? I mean, I've known all those people for so long. It felt seamless and very organic.

00:27:30
Speaker 5: Did you see the entire season?

00:27:31
Speaker 2: I've watched it sporadically. It's so good. It's weird. I wait, this is I feel like a peeping tom when I like, I don't when I watch shows that my friends are on, like Summer House, I feel like I'm spying on them or learning things about my friends I shouldn't know, don't know what I mean.

00:27:48
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like a little too close for comfort.

00:27:50
Speaker 2: Yeah, it feels like a violation almost.

00:27:53
Speaker 1: Yeah.

00:27:53
Speaker 2: I'm like, you don't watch me and I won't watch you.

00:27:55
Speaker 1: That's the deal.

00:27:56
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, don't be watching band Pump Rules.

00:27:59
Speaker 1: But it was really really nice seeing you on TV. It's like a little piece of home.

00:28:08
Speaker 3: That's when I told it was Yeah.

00:28:10
Speaker 4: It was on the bonus episode and I was watching funny clips on TikTok and it was you and Jack's but it was mostly you, and it was funny moments, and that's where I was watching it.

00:28:21
Speaker 2: I was like, there's just something about Schwartz that I just need on my.

00:28:25
Speaker 3: Yes and I feel like.

00:28:27
Speaker 4: The Valley God, damn this right ya this man to my left.

00:28:32
Speaker 1: But you also make made an appearance on Summer House this I did.

00:28:37
Speaker 2: It was really nice. I was like one of the best little reprieves getting to go out there to the Hampton's. I love that crew, and I was like, I was very sentimental about it because I see their energy. I see them they have what we had. They have they have magic together. And yes, they drive each other crazy and they fight and they bicker, but there's a there's an undercurrent, an overcurrent of love and respect and they're like one big, happy, dysfunctional fan. I missed that. I missed that we used to have that, like pre pandemic we had that.

00:29:05
Speaker 1: Remember I yeah, I do remember. I remember it very well and it like still will always have a special place in my heart that time in my life. I really think that you may be a good match with Lexi Wood Lexie.

00:29:21
Speaker 2: That's probably the person I know the least. I don't know anything about.

00:29:24
Speaker 1: Well, she's new, she's new to the Bravo universe. But you know who she is, right, Yeah.

00:29:28
Speaker 2: I met her. She was in the house when I was staying there.

00:29:30
Speaker 1: Beautiful. She has like a pretty hefty resume of a list celebrities.

00:29:37
Speaker 5: Drake Yeah, Drake.

00:29:39
Speaker 1: Flex freaking Victoria Beckham's son.

00:29:43
Speaker 5: Yeah.

00:29:44
Speaker 1: No, she's got She's got a roster, and she's stunning. I think that you guys would be like a really cute match.

00:29:49
Speaker 2: How's your how's your roster? La?

00:29:50
Speaker 1: La empty?

00:29:54
Speaker 2: She's still looking for a paper and pen. Yeah.

00:29:56
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something. I have this eye situation happening right. I washed my hair last night and was just like so into taking care of myself. I put the kids in bed, and I was like, I'm going to wash my hair, and not only am I gonna wash it, I'm gonna do like a scalp situation, a fucking like hair mask. I get out of the shower, I'm looking at myself. Easton, cover your ears. I'm getting gray hair. I've got tits that have now breastfed two babies, and I have a bum eye, and I'm like, what the fuck is going on? Haven't been injected since season ten botox, botox filler.

00:30:38
Speaker 5: Everyone's like, stop touching your face.

00:30:40
Speaker 1: I was like, I need to touch my face because it hasn't been touched in a while.

00:30:44
Speaker 2: You look good right now, you look you look naturally natural.

00:30:49
Speaker 1: Actually, fuck off, you actually looked You've ever looked respectfully. I needed to hear that because I also have postpartum shedding that's happening, and thank god for neutrafol or be fucking bald. But I'm like, something needs to change. It's just enough already. So no, my roster is empty and I have no plan to get it. And by the way, every time I even think about going on a date, something no, no, no, something happens to where I actually have to.

00:31:21
Speaker 2: Cancel, some sort of divine intervention.

00:31:23
Speaker 1: Well yeah, it's like, I'm gonna go out with this guy. My daughter is so sick and needing to be taken to like the emergency room. Have to cancel. I'm gonna go do this, bum I I'm gonna do Like it is always something that is so out of my control.

00:31:39
Speaker 2: Are you actively seeking love right now.

00:31:42
Speaker 5: No, it's open.

00:31:44
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm more open than I have been in the past. I'm very much in this. But that's the other thing is I'm still going back and forth on a third kid. So then it's another element of like if I am open to it, I meet someone and say, like, if you want children, you and you want them to be yours, that's gonna be I can't give that to you. You also have to be comfortable with the fact if like you and I completely hit it off and I one day say I want a third baby, I'm gonna be getting pregnant and it's not going to be with you.

00:32:17
Speaker 5: So I think I make it difficult for myself to day.

00:32:22
Speaker 2: You need a man who's got his ship together. Yeah, an emotionally mature, confident and successful man's not afraid to co parent with you.

00:32:30
Speaker 5: And yeah, that's exactly what it is.

00:32:33
Speaker 1: And they have to be They have to want kids, because if you don't want kids you already got two, then you're not going to be a good fit. Because I have two kids.

00:32:41
Speaker 2: That's a recipe for disaster.

00:32:42
Speaker 1: Right, So you either have to have kids or be okay with not having your own kids. You just want to participate in children.

00:32:51
Speaker 2: Yeah, children, Well.

00:32:54
Speaker 1: Come on over, I'd love to punt them off to you. Have you seen Sosa, Yeah.

00:32:59
Speaker 2: Just fucking gorgeous. She's a dream. So is Ocean. They're both the dream.

00:33:04
Speaker 1: Ocean has a really fucking cool look, like she's got this like olive skin, these like this like light hair.

00:33:10
Speaker 5: She's like a surfer chick does not.

00:33:12
Speaker 1: She's such boy energy. Like the other day, I walked in and I gave her gum and she locked herself in a room and I was like, are you going number two?

00:33:21
Speaker 5: Open this door?

00:33:22
Speaker 1: She has spelled attempted to spell her name with the gum.

00:33:26
Speaker 2: On the on the wall. She's an artiste.

00:33:29
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's an artist, and when I lose my mind on her, she doesn't give one fuck.

00:33:34
Speaker 2: I want some gum art. That's very avant garde.

00:33:38
Speaker 5: I'll have her make you a piece.

00:33:39
Speaker 2: Can you make me some gummart I'm sure she would love to. I'm gonna come hang out with you guys this week. Well, I might go to San Diego. Actually, we'll see.

00:33:46
Speaker 1: What are you gonna do in San Diego? I've been wanting to go to the zoo there. Oh, you guys, I'm pretty anti Zoo, but I would go to the San Diego.

00:33:52
Speaker 2: You got a romance, your life a little bit, you gotta hop on the train. It's so lovely. You take it down to San Diego. Stay somewhere in the gas Lamp district, be on the beach, fabulous five star hotel. Yeah whatever, but it's such a good vibe. I love the food. If you're a bit of a foodie.

00:34:07
Speaker 5: I am a foodie.

00:34:09
Speaker 1: Who are you going with?

00:34:11
Speaker 2: Well, I think like Luke and Kristen and a few other people are going down there and they're like, do you want to roll? I might hop on the train and meet you guys there.

00:34:19
Speaker 5: That's really cute.

00:34:20
Speaker 2: Have you ever taken a train before?

00:34:22
Speaker 4: No, it's been in our it's been in the plans, though. We want to do like the Coastline.

00:34:26
Speaker 1: I've taken a train. I've taken a train. I've taken a mini train.

00:34:30
Speaker 2: Romantic as fuck, isn't it? Yes, it's like idyllic. It just feels so peaceful. Best nap one of the top five naps of all time. On a train. I get a cold beer, it gets snacks, listening to like ten different podcasts, getting them in like the.

00:34:46
Speaker 4: Massage on the rails that it kind of gives.

00:34:48
Speaker 2: You a.

00:34:50
Speaker 1: Born baby.

00:34:51
Speaker 2: Yeah, that arouses me for some reason. Sorry, train ride, No, I get the bumps. I don't know what it is.

00:34:57
Speaker 1: It's like, No, I'm getting hard.

00:35:01
Speaker 2: Black card right now thinking about it. I think I'm excited to go on a train.

00:35:05
Speaker 5: Are you going with a chick or no?

00:35:07
Speaker 2: No, just I would just be going solo.

00:35:08
Speaker 5: Are you sexually active right now?

00:35:10
Speaker 2: Not right now?

00:35:11
Speaker 1: No. But is that by choice or are you making a commitment to yourself for mental reasons?

00:35:16
Speaker 2: It's complicated, but yeah, I'm just laying low right now.

00:35:21
Speaker 1: When you when you drink in the past, let's say two to three years when you were drinking, do you feel like it was something to more like numb the stress and anxiety.

00:35:33
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah. I drank more than I've ever drank in my life. When Shorts and Sandy's was open, I was in there a lot, and I just like, no matter what I did, I just could not fix rectify the situation. Couldn't get it in the black, you know, no matter what we tried, And I just kept throwing money at it, throwing money, time and money, my whole heart and soul. I put everything I had in that place and it didn't work out, But that was a good learning experience for your next one. Don't open a bar. That's my vice.

00:36:00
Speaker 5: Would you ever open another bar.

00:36:02
Speaker 2: As a consultant? I wouldn't put my own money.

00:36:04
Speaker 5: But like, I know, Yeah, how is Jack's doing? He still lives next.

00:36:09
Speaker 2: Door to you, he does. He's such a good neighbor. I know he's going through it man, and he's you know, he's responsible for all the stuff that's happening. But I think he's handling it pretty well. He's sober now, yeah, uge, no alcohol, not even a sip. Yeah, for like one hundred and twenty days.

00:36:23
Speaker 1: That's amazing.

00:36:24
Speaker 2: He's such a good neighbor. He's so quiet. I never hear a peep out of him. Wow. Yeah, he's really quiet.

00:36:29
Speaker 1: So when you are now that you're dealing with kind of like Jack's on the receiving end of a lot of people watching a show and having a very strong reaction to him, what would you say is the biggest difference now when dealing with him versus when you were dealing with the sand of all situation.

00:36:46
Speaker 2: Well, I have boundaries now and I don't have a million dollar business with our name on the side together, you know what I mean. Yeah, Like it's like a lightning rod. So my piece is protected, you know what I mean. So I don't know. I just I just don't want, you know. So maybe his worst moment to define him. You know. I want to see him get that. I want to see him win. Just I don't know. He's a father now. I want to see him get it together and like and sort of get his friendship back with Brittany where it needs to be. I don't think she's ready for that, but no, but I think if he were too, he has a long road to repair.

00:37:23
Speaker 1: But well, because he's given her false hope and false promises so many times that she now has a wall up. But I think if he got to a good place and showed consistency. We both know Brittany, she has such a loving and forgiving heart that I know for a fact they could have a beautiful co parenting relationship.

00:37:44
Speaker 2: And I think they'll get there. It might take a few years, but I think they'll get.

00:37:47
Speaker 1: There a few years. In the grand scheme of life, I'm saying.

00:37:51
Speaker 4: You know, truly, you look at it at like from cruisey standpoint in four. You know, by the time he five six, Like, that's you guys are now hope arrenting healthy you He wouldn't even remember, you know, yeah, right, Like that's a great day.

00:38:05
Speaker 2: I mean, this is the time to start. But it's Jackson's on that path and doing what he's doing.

00:38:09
Speaker 1: No ex Actually do you still talk to sandoval I?

00:38:13
Speaker 2: It's it's funny. I know, I committed. I don't see Tom that much. He's always with his girlfriend, Victoria is so madly in love.

00:38:20
Speaker 1: Have they gotten more normal?

00:38:22
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, they put a lot of work in this question.

00:38:24
Speaker 3: What does more normal mean?

00:38:26
Speaker 1: Well, just I think lost when and this is I think with anybody, Uh, when you're in such toxicity all the time, you almost become addicted to that type. You don't know how to I talked about it with Brittany. I feel more comfortable with dudes who put me in a combative situation and arguing than a dude who's like, I'd love to take you to dinner and have a normal conversation because I don't know how to do that with someone. Wow, I can go tos and I can check you that. I'm very comfortable doing that's your way. In fact, that's a love language. I think we should get married tomorrow. This seems like a really healthy and happy space for me. So I think with Sandoval, it he was maybe you know, he went from like Kristen. I think Arianna was very much normal for him, but she he wasn't normal for her. I don't think this is just me making a snap judgment.

00:39:20
Speaker 2: From Afar, no snap away, but.

00:39:23
Speaker 1: I think sometimes you get addicted to that type of like.

00:39:28
Speaker 2: Just a break up. Yeah yeah, no, it's like yeah, like.

00:39:31
Speaker 1: A dopamine hit every time you fucking get into it and then you get to make up.

00:39:35
Speaker 2: I think, listen, I don't want to I don't want to speculate, but I know they've done a good amount of couples therapy and stuff, so I think they're in a good place. I don't see Tom that much, but I must have agreed to this when I was drunk at his last concert because he was doing a show in Minnesota, and I want to go home and hang out with my family, some of my extended family because most of my family's in Florida. But I guess drunkenly, uh said yeah, I'll go on tour. With you. So I guess I'm going on like a little mini who has tour. I don't even remember agreeing to this.

00:40:05
Speaker 5: That's what I love about courts.

00:40:06
Speaker 1: So he's like, I don't remember agreeing, but we're going.

00:40:09
Speaker 5: Hey, it'll be my commitment. If there's one.

00:40:11
Speaker 1: Thing I admire, I admire many things about you, but one of the biggest is you. When you commit, you honor your commitment.

00:40:17
Speaker 2: I do. I'm usually a man of my word.

00:40:20
Speaker 1: And I really appreciate that, because, especially when you're doing a podcast, you don't know who's gonna who, you've teed up, and then last minute they're like, I can't.

00:40:27
Speaker 2: I can't make it. Everybody's got I love podcasting. It's so fun Yeah.

00:40:32
Speaker 1: But and I bet you're good at it because this was this is so funny.

00:40:35
Speaker 2: This has been so easy.

00:40:36
Speaker 4: I've been over here forgetting. I'm on just listening to you guys.

00:40:40
Speaker 1: All right, what's your go to comfort meal after a brutal day?

00:40:44
Speaker 2: Probably I've already thought too long.

00:40:48
Speaker 3: Oh my god, everybody hasn't tried to.

00:40:50
Speaker 2: Honestly, I love some I love Mexican food, like a nice chicken carne side of Burritoh, like my favorite favorite is like, I love Italian food, my god, meat balls. I love old spaghetti factory.

00:41:05
Speaker 1: Too.

00:41:07
Speaker 2: At the end, forget about it.

00:41:10
Speaker 5: You know your ship, honey, I'm from Utah. All we knew was.

00:41:15
Speaker 2: Spaghetti tear meal.

00:41:17
Speaker 5: We're going to out back steakhouse.

00:41:19
Speaker 4: What oh if we were going top top tier Texas roadhouse.

00:41:23
Speaker 3: Oh, I forgot about it.

00:41:26
Speaker 5: What's the weirdest DM you've ever gotten?

00:41:29
Speaker 2: They're so vanilla except during during you know what? Of all like that. They're that dark chapter in my life, got some nasty ones.

00:41:38
Speaker 5: They get a little spicy.

00:41:40
Speaker 2: Someone called me a mediocre ship stain a lot really just that one hurt. She reduced my whole life to a mediocre ship.

00:41:48
Speaker 4: Stand you're just mediocre ships.

00:41:52
Speaker 2: Everything I've done, i've like feel like I've enriched people's lives and I've led a pretty fascinating life. She's like, you're a that one hurt she got me.

00:42:00
Speaker 5: That woman I want to meet her.

00:42:02
Speaker 2: She's a fucking she had a blue check mark. I forgot her name. She was like, she probably pays. She's a pop culture guru or something.

00:42:09
Speaker 5: She sounds fucking awesome.

00:42:10
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not really relating it to you.

00:42:15
Speaker 5: On what she said.

00:42:16
Speaker 2: But they're a lot with that.

00:42:18
Speaker 3: That's so good.

00:42:19
Speaker 2: I could call that for sure.

00:42:20
Speaker 1: What's one red flag you used to ignore that you now take seriously.

00:42:25
Speaker 2: Just drinking too much, being sloppy, and yeah, there's no reason to ever cheat, just cheating. It's just like I can't I can't believe I used to get so drunk that I would just like make out with a stranger. It seems so ridiculous now, and well, I.

00:42:39
Speaker 1: Mean, in all fairness, I us see it wasted in a week, I'm next to random men that I always knew I used a condom because I'd see the wrapper on the floor.

00:42:46
Speaker 2: That's good. I'm so proud of her.

00:42:47
Speaker 5: I'm so sorry eton just ignore me.

00:42:50
Speaker 2: Do you ever miss that? Laala?

00:42:51
Speaker 1: No, no, no, I am such a square now, Tom, I.

00:42:56
Speaker 2: Do enjoy people's dark passengers, Like I know, that was very toxic time in your life when you're getting wasted.

00:43:01
Speaker 1: And it wasn't always toxic, wasn't It was after my dad did, which was only six months between my dad passing and me getting sober.

00:43:11
Speaker 5: The rest of the time was like, really a fucking hate day.

00:43:13
Speaker 1: I had a blast.

00:43:14
Speaker 5: I don't regret one fucking moment.

00:43:16
Speaker 2: We were just talking, Me and Stacey were just talking about our trip to Cabomember. I love that trip, the one.

00:43:22
Speaker 1: Did I have dark hair?

00:43:23
Speaker 4: Though?

00:43:24
Speaker 2: Isn't that where you was? We rolled? We did a lot of things, no, y'all. Oh yeah, that's right.

00:43:33
Speaker 1: They thought I was rolling because I was having everyone touch me. But it's because I was suffering from tremendous anxiety and Sunday scaries or Sunday scary scares that came out sounding not right. What song is currently living rent free in your brain?

00:43:50
Speaker 2: Let's see. I really liked this producer, Orlando Higginbottom. He's totally enormous State Dinosaurs. You guys know him. He's a producer. He makes such great music. Check them out.

00:44:01
Speaker 1: I would try to see your Spotify playlist.

00:44:03
Speaker 4: I have a feeling there's like no words. I had a lot of just like sounds, there's words.

00:44:07
Speaker 2: And I have a lot of hip hop too. I'm getting into country. I just listen to the new Morgan Wallam Morgan Wallen, Yeah, I've done it. His new album is so good.

00:44:16
Speaker 5: He makes great music.

00:44:17
Speaker 1: Wow, what's the most Tom Schwartz thing you've ever done in real life?

00:44:27
Speaker 2: Not on camera, not on camera.

00:44:29
Speaker 4: I feel like a.

00:44:30
Speaker 1: Really Tom Schwartzy thing is you taking shots with random people when you love that.

00:44:36
Speaker 2: And just giving my phone to people on that and then me following their Instagram accounts. I have boundaries. Now, I'm not following anybody more. I follow eight eighty five hundred people.

00:44:46
Speaker 1: I think that is beyond and I'm so angry about this.

00:44:49
Speaker 4: I need to get him out and get him out of there.

00:44:51
Speaker 2: I know, like Katie and like Sophia would just like, you can't just give your phone to someone and your fault, Like what if they go to your like Venmo or something.

00:44:58
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know, Tom Schwartzy thing.

00:45:01
Speaker 2: Wait, let's see guys, let's see my follower account. This is egregious. By the way, seven and one, no more sports.

00:45:09
Speaker 1: You've got to unfollow some people.

00:45:12
Speaker 2: Absolutely you talk. I don't want to hurt their feelings. Though I'll tak.

00:45:16
Speaker 1: Them, You'll never going to see them again in your life, that's what you think.

00:45:19
Speaker 2: But I'm in the bars a lot. I'm at Tom Tom hosting a lot.

00:45:22
Speaker 3: That is true, but no, but I'm in your boat.

00:45:25
Speaker 4: I rather keep following them and not have that awkward fucking conversation.

00:45:30
Speaker 2: When you see them again, it's not worth it.

00:45:33
Speaker 1: You click unfollow on their end, like it looks like they unfollowed you, so then it looks like you retaliated with an unfollow. I've never personally done that.

00:45:42
Speaker 2: No, but that's a good one. I'm taking that one, but.

00:45:44
Speaker 1: It would be a very Tom Schwartz way of doing it. Hold on, what's one cent that instantly calms you down? You're not very rapid at this game?

00:45:51
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know these are. This is like a whole podcast in itself. I love this. Uh, what's that? What's that? I love palacento? Oh, it's to cleanse the energy in your room. Person. This smells really good. Those little woodsticks? Oh my god.

00:46:07
Speaker 1: Last one, what's your most irrational fear that you low key stand by.

00:46:11
Speaker 2: I have an irrational fear of what am I scared of? Oh my god, you guys help me. I don't really have any irrational fears.

00:46:22
Speaker 1: I mean, you've been through a lot of shit, so I don't think anything could really scare you.

00:46:28
Speaker 2: I have one, so like I don't like walking around naked. I have an irrational fear like an owl or the roof down and just grab my penis and pluck it off, even like in your bed, like out of the shower, of course. But I know, like, do you hate.

00:46:44
Speaker 4: Being naked in your own room even a little bit?

00:46:45
Speaker 2: I feel like I get sweaty when I'm naked if I sleep naked.

00:46:48
Speaker 5: Right, I love sleeping naked. I know I wear more clothes to bed than I do out.

00:46:54
Speaker 2: Yeah, in public, I can't.

00:46:56
Speaker 4: Be naked in my own room.

00:46:57
Speaker 3: I feel weird.

00:46:59
Speaker 2: Oh do you guys walk on the house naked?

00:47:00
Speaker 1: Well no, obviously, well no, but like I don't live in my house, but like my house is all chicks.

00:47:06
Speaker 4: I am in my bathroom is in my room. I will get out of the shower with a towel. I will have my pants ready and then I put them on under the towel and then I take the towel off.

00:47:16
Speaker 3: Doors locked, no one's there.

00:47:18
Speaker 1: But I need to feel like very comfortable. Now I'm in a bathrobe at all times.

00:47:23
Speaker 2: That's the bathroom life is good when you're in a bathrobe.

00:47:26
Speaker 5: Can I tell you my irrational fear?

00:47:28
Speaker 1: Yeah, I am terrified that I will accidentally put nail glue in my eyes instead of eye drops, wow or affron not I almost you're fucked. You're blind if you do that. So I am very Oh my.

00:47:44
Speaker 2: God, I have to know you just unlocked a new fear.

00:47:47
Speaker 1: I have to It's giving me anxiety just thinking about it. I have to like literally examine the bottle for a long time and make sure it's not playing tricks on me.

00:47:54
Speaker 2: That's not irrational, No, that isn't at all.

00:47:56
Speaker 4: If how are you, I'd be keeping the nail glue in your I keep.

00:47:59
Speaker 5: It in separate places.

00:48:00
Speaker 1: But I'm like, what if my mother if my mother can't see, for shit, see something small and she's like, it's a droper for eyes, And I'd like accidentally do that.

00:48:10
Speaker 2: The ocean too. I'm terrified of the ocean. I won't go anywhere past my waist.

00:48:16
Speaker 5: I won't go past my ankles.

00:48:17
Speaker 2: Yeah maybe if I have a few cocktails, I get a little courage, liquid courage. But I'm scared of sharks.

00:48:22
Speaker 4: I saw a grin what well, I just saw a girl like getting pulled out and her achilles a shark ripped like her whole calf off.

00:48:32
Speaker 3: So I will not go up to.

00:48:33
Speaker 1: My no, no, no ankle deep do you remember? And then we'll sign off? But when we were in Mexico, I think it was Plia del Carmen and we all went skinny dipping, just the girls. I don't know if you remember, we all go skinny dipping. The next day we go to the front desk and they're like, did you have a good time.

00:48:53
Speaker 5: We were like, yeah, we went swimming last night.

00:48:55
Speaker 1: They were like, there are alligators out there, crocodiles.

00:48:59
Speaker 5: Oh, it's crocodiles.

00:49:00
Speaker 1: Can go back for there are crocodiles out there.

00:49:02
Speaker 5: You guys cannot do that again.

00:49:04
Speaker 1: I'm like, what the fuck? Production We were out there like laughing, like putting our tits together, like that's just been charmed.

00:49:12
Speaker 4: The alligators were probably just as enthralled did a crocodile or an allex.

00:49:16
Speaker 2: Crocodiles in Mexico there's salty's there and they're very aggressive compared to an American alligator.

00:49:23
Speaker 4: They were just watching you guys be naked and they were just.

00:49:26
Speaker 1: No, Now, I'm such a square. If the chance I could get hurt, I'm not doing it.

00:49:30
Speaker 2: Our last Mexico tip was so fun. Our cast remember I think two thousand, the last one we all went on. Bo and Stasi were still on the show. It was like twenty nineteen.

00:49:40
Speaker 1: That wait, are you talking about the that was not on camera?

00:49:44
Speaker 5: You're talking about.

00:49:44
Speaker 2: I'm not talking about one with Randall. I'm talking about with the one. When we filmed, we went to Plaadel Carmen. Yeah, yes, and we drove the little car, the dune buggies.

00:49:52
Speaker 5: And so fucking fun.

00:49:54
Speaker 1: And then remember we went swimming and we all got like a parasite. We all were shitting our brains out when we got home. I got us, yeah I did.

00:50:04
Speaker 5: But it can, it can take me again.

00:50:05
Speaker 1: I don't care. I do not care.

00:50:09
Speaker 5: Fabulous Tom Schwartzey.

00:50:11
Speaker 1: I'm so happy that you came on my podcast.

00:50:13
Speaker 2: This is fun, guys.

00:50:14
Speaker 1: Thank you for being I kind of forgot what I was doing for a second. You guys, thank you for listening to another episode of Give Them La La Podcast.

00:50:20
Speaker 5: I'm gonna catch you guys next week. Bye.

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