2022 Week 5 Recap!

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It's more like daddy's going out, Daddy's geting behind the velvet ropes, and I think a little festive, like a festive party boy. Mark it's it could be a good thing tonight. Sure. I mean, what is the difference between Sunday night and Friday night? If unless you make it a difference, I see no boundaries. Well, for viewers on YouTube, they can check mark out, you know, being the change he wants to see in men's fashion, and then right next to him, I look like it's Saturday morning and you are also the change that you want to see in fashion. I've noticed a lot of fashion new roads with you over the last couple of years. And don't forget it's also the show is available on the NFL channel. Yeah, so good to know it is. Many games are played today. Our job today is to take you through them all, uh and explain why the NFL is what it is at this moment in time week five, Uh, we had another um, big time, big time fun game in London, so I feel like, why don't we start there. Let's head we're back from England, but the NFL had more business to do, so let us head to the Hot Toddy where the Giants and Packers did battle Rogers in a shotgun set seven seconds to go Giants by five, Rogers back to throw spins away from pressure under pressure again, dances to it like now I get sick from behind and that's back and bubbles of football look covered by the Packers. But that is it. Ball game over. The New York Giants have come to London and rang the bell other Green Bay Packers. Two. Bob Papa, what is this music? Turn this music off? Justin Graver this is it's it's on, Bro, It's on in New York City. Turn this up my head first, the g Men, That was Bob Papa, w f an. The g Men got got by an Aaron Rodgers Hail Mary in the two thousand and sixteen playoffs. But these Giants, Brian Dables June aren't about that life. Rogers got crushed from behind after our friend cave On Thibodeaux flushed him out of the pocket and playing well the last couple of weeks, and the quarterback was unable to unleash that prayer, the sack and fumble the clincher and two comeback victory for New York. At as I said, the big tot in London, um Greg this game again. The Giants who we see maybe not talent poor, but probably closer to talent poor than talent rich. But week after week they hang against their opponents, and in this they scored seventeen on answered points to stun the Packers in a building filled with Packer fans on the other side of the world. They scored on five straight drives uh to win the game, and they held Aaron Rodgers to only two drives before he got them in the second half before he got the ball needing to get a touchdown to tie a in the fourth quarter. That's complimentary football. I can't believe how well coached this team is because they are talent poor on both sides and they're injured to like Leonard Williams not in this game of Dori Jackson, easily their best quarterback, left in the middle of this game. UH. Aaron Robinson, their other starting quarterback, didn't even play in this game. Olari has barely played all year, and yet they're sticking to what they want to do on defense, which is blitz. On the two biggest snaps of the year, they blitz Aaron Rodgers right on the goal line end up deflecting both of those passes on the on the drive in the fourth quarter before they tried to set up for the hail Mary and the offense is grinding down opponents with the running game, and that takes a little pressure off of the defense. You short in games when you're not as talent rich and you have good coaching, and that's how they did this. I'm amazed they won this game. I I the New York Giants to me under Brian Dable, We're looking at a couple of teams out there with coaches in year three, year four, and you're waiting to see it and it's not happening. I mean, we'll see what happens with this Giants team, but there is an absolutely electric difference to who they are, how well they're coached, and they at one point their offense with all the injuries was Sae Kwon. Barkley sheld for part of this game, puts together three drives of eleven plus plays, long clock chewing drives that they were panning to Packers players sitting there winded, and I really think they broke the Packers in this game to some degree. And you know, they're flashing at Daniel Jones with his hand bloodied, and I know Daniel Jones is not a perfect quarterback, but he kind of just fits what they're doing. Right now, and he made some Keith throws in this thing. And I love the way that they play because I know I get ripped for sometimes saying I want these games to be short. What I really want risk well what Sessler decimated. I love the way they play because I like drives that are long and they just basically take a defense and puts them into a fla with people ripping. Basically, this wasn't even a short game. It was a totally normal but the way that they the way that they they did, like the way they played, and I really think that Brian Dable is proving and wing Martin deal that like whatever like parts they have on the roster, they're gonna maximize him and his team just simply believes in itself. I don't forget the past regime when Giants fans, and I know many of them, I thought similarly positive thoughts about Joe Judge. Oh, I like the way this team is kind of a hard nosed team. People forget how quickly the worm turn there and everyone wanted Joe Judge out and he was out. But yeah, it does feel different right now with Dabel, they just seemed to come into games very well prepared, they have a game plan, they stick to it. And Barkley, even though his numbers don't jump out at you like Mark, he left this game with a shoulder injury. Uh disappears, comes shooting out of the tunnel, as we're told by Mark Sanchez, and immediately has a huge impact play scores the two years, the two yards, the touchdown run on a direct snap to put them ahead and complete the comeback. And for Green Bay, this is the second straight week, um where I've been watching them and I'm waiting and waiting for the defense to make the big play, to get the big stop, to get the game under control, and they can't do it. Here is what Matt Lafleur said about the effort of his team after the loss. Give New York all the credit. They out coached us, they outplayed us. They definitely wanted it more and it was the tail of two halves and they kicked our butt in the second half. And you can't do that in this league. M You cannot couldn't get any deep throws going over six. They've actually had plenty of explosive plays. They're just a weird team right now. But I think their defense is soft and we came into the year thinking this is gonna be the best Packers defense. And while it's loaded on paper, divide your Campbell not playing as well, Roswell Douglas, who had a killer penalty in this game, not playing as well as a year ago. Like on paper, they look great, and then in the fourth quarter they feel like you can kind of push them around a little bit. Yeah, I agree with that, Um and I and I'll say this though, I'll say this, they missed Avante Adams and I know that's not breaking news, but there's so many moments in the last two weeks even but especially in this game, where when they when things get tight, all of a sudden, Rogers those a perfectly placed slant that goes for thirty eight yards like that big play to calm things down. And I know the offense is not the quote unquote problem right now, but when you factor in the defense that is not bowing up to shut things down and then the offense not quite being where it needs to be, you're getting these close games. And it worked out last week against the Patriots in the third string quarterback, but it didn't work out this week. And Greg said it, I mean Mark they said it. Aaron Rodgers said it last week. He said, the way we've been playing is not sustainable, playing all these close games. And then they go to London and do the same thing again, but this time get beat right in a game that almost essentially said this is where the Giants journey ends in terms of being the fun, little flavorful three and one team, And it was the opposite, because this is team, this is a Packers team that does not play complete games. So the coach said it. Today, Rogers has said it. There's been multiple cutaways with how frustrated he's not in a place in his career where he wants to probably tutor a big group of young wide receivers because there's some talent there. There's no doubt Romeo has been good, but there's been these drops on some of these deep shots, and so they have not played a complete game. I can't think about one moment today when it was the Giants tied it up. They had basically, whether you agree with they or not, the momentum Patrick Clayban. But then the Packers go out and glay an egg, going to three and out and they never really came back from that. And then the tip passes at the end against Daron Rodgers were the Giants defense stepping up, which they've not done in years. They're gonna be around now. I've had my doubts about this Giant team, and I still do long term before and one, and there's some pretty soft spots on their schedule. They're gonna be a big part of this season and we appreciate that. It does make it more fun. It seems like a great crowd. There are a lot of Packers fans, there are a lot of Giants fans, and one fan of the Around the NFL podcast really made my day, Joseph Warley, trying to get an answer to an important question. They asked table big spooner a little spoon as he's running off the field, Couch, big spoon spoon you happen to see a separate table video of him running off It was it was. It made me fired up. He was like getting the crowd going as he's going into the tunnel as if he was like the best player on the team, and he was going crazy. I love it just in terms of context with people that don't know in the middle of the summer, Cavon Thibodeau was in this very studio and Mark asked Cavon Thibodeau if Brian Dable was a front spoon or backspoon type of dude, and Cavon Thibodeau looked at Mark like he had an elbow growing out of his forehead. He did, And I mean, I still want the answer to that question. I think I know the answer proof, right, yeah, yeah, without proof. Nice job by the Giants, the packers asking some questions. Now the Giants have um got off to a uh four and one start. Now, last time they were five and oh was two thousand nine. I think that was the year that Flexico shot himself in the leg at the club and everything went to hell. Um, could the Eagles? Could the Eagles improve the five and O? Here we go, prety three yard attempt? The ball is thought of, the kick is under way, and the kick is Hey missed the the offssles hesitated missed the oh you can't you can't miss that kick. Merril Reese with the call, w I p the Cardinals after you know, unfortunate situation with Kyler Murray sliding down feet first, think he has a first down. It wasn't so after he spiked the ball. It was fourth down, so they had to bring out the kicker when they had a chance to maybe go for the win. And then matt Amndola pushes that thing wide right. Final score Eagles twenty, Cardinals seventeen. The Eagles are five and oh for the first time since two thousand four, when they won their first seven games and finished thirteen and three, and I believe went to the Super Bowl. Um, all right, Mark, I know you're feeling good because you locked up the Eagles. I do feel good. And I was not the only one as did. He feels good too, But I could tell you we're looking a little noivous in the second half of this game. I was because this is sort of with the Cardinals blueprint. You know, first four drives they got like fifty yards. They look like they haven't practiced all week. And the Eagles in reverse, have two out of three drives that are long. Powerful. Their offensive lound without Jordan's Milatta was controlling things and Jalen Hurts us punching in two touchdowns from the one yard line, and you thought, look at this Cardinals team, they're just missing um, they're missing weapons. Kyler Murray through a terrible interception into what was one on one covers with a safety waiting there. Terrible throw, and it's sort of like the you get this every game, the bad version of the Cardinals for typically two and a half quarters, if not three, then they come to life, and they did in this game. I think there's something to pull from from a Cardinals angle on this. The ending was a disaster, but which should be noted because it was tweeted by reporters at the stadium that when Kyler Murray when he spiked that ball, you know, thinking it was fourth and one, that it was I think they had a first down. Was actually fourth and one, but we we the stadium inside said that he had a first down, so it was a miscommunication for him. Like but still it's you have to have more awareness that it's a little excuse. Well, it'll be interesting, they'll ask him about it. We're taping this too quickly, for all we know, that wasn't a factor. But I think exactly the right. I'm just saying, like, if he looked up and he saw first down, that right, I am giving him a pass for that. That and that's if that happened to the road team. We'd say, oh that's home cooking. It would be an outcry. But someone who works in the game production staff is dying tonight in Arizona. I mean imagine being that guy right now. That's said, though, like that's not the only instance in this game or other weeks of the of Arizona looking discombobulated. I mean, the one thing today though, I thought, if you want to pull Hope from because you're gonna get You're gonna get DeAndre Hopkins back. I thought the connection between Kyler Murray and Hollywood Brown live up today and it really shows promise for the future. Ron dial Moore made a couple of big plays. You lost James Conner and in came like they do have other parts on this team. I do think, like you know exactly, like it's something to build off of. And it's like this was the part of the season where typically maybe their years reversed, were like their end of the year collapse. Is there start of the year collapse. But in general, I don't know if I bought speaking, I'm not speaking so because I've got to win this game, and that's I don't care what the clock or the announcer said. Like, don't make any excuses for Harper than that. You have to know what the situation is. He didn't, we would be Tom Brady would never do that, Like that's that's like, that's the situation and he's like lost track of time outs multi in like the situation. Like Cardinal's not a great excuse for him at all. And I what I've said was they've been doing this for two and a half three quarters every week. It's not enough. Just like this was just another thing in a long line with this team, under this coaching staff and with this quarterback where things don't work out the way they should because things aren't tight enough. It's not a tight operation made a better football team today to the Eagles, was talking more about the this was the first game where Arizona didn't fall down ten nothing all season because they fell down ten three to the Panthers. Let the first that's how they started the game. I just think if he looked up and they said first it's not someone said first down. They looked up and on the board it says first that if he saw that, you could absolutely see that being a factor and why you're spiking. And it was a pretty unique play it was kind of a brilliant play call. I thought by Cliff Kingsbury that he didn't execute right. They called a quarterback run despite not having any time out. But if you got the first down, if he had dove head first or gotten the actual first down part of the that's my point of slide before the mark, he clearly could have gotten it physically. The first part of the Kyler Murray thing. Don't strong in this because it's like there just here excuses the discombobulated, disorganized for three quarters a week. They're a hot mess. But they've gotten a little bit better on offense each week too. In defense, defense did a good job today today. I agree with you guys. I don't mean that. I just mean they've looked a little more. They've looked a little more like an NFL team every year. Now that said, they did come back. They make it seventeen seventeen. Uh, it's fourth quarter. The Eagles get the ball, definitely the toughest situation that the Eagles have been in all year, and the Eagles go on a cess lari in seventeen play drive where it's almost all runs. But the key play in that drive to me was third and twelve. They've been blitzing Hurts all game. It's mostly worked in good spots for the Cardinals. They blitz him on third and twelve. He's totally under pressure, there's free rushers and he hits Dallas got it for a first down to go set up the game winning sequence. They didn't end up punching it in, but it was a big sequence where it got him another step I think along the way for Jalen Hurts to deliver like that in a fourth quarter. Yes, the Eagles five and all, like I said, first time since two thousand fourteen, and a huge showdown with the Cowboys next week. So a lot of fun, all right. Let's uh, speaking of the Cowboys, what a division in the NFC East is back. Let's see what happened with the across the sidewalk at Sophi Stadium, and they're gonna give the ball to Pollard. He bust shock the middle, He broke the tackler right to the forty chase from behind the thirty turns left at the Tony to the ten to the five, and Pollard with a house Talls touchdown. Tony Pollard fifty seven yards by Pollard rad sham the sham god k R L D with the call Tony Pollard is better than Zeke Elliott. But whatever, let's stay positible. The Cowboys are winners of fourth straight after he convincing win over the Rams, who are ending champions in name only, more like champions nailed at Greg That is five straight defensive efforts from Dallas that have ranged from great to dominant. I mean this is right near the top for the Cowboys defense and Michael Parsons. We've got a punchy Dan Hansas tonight. I like that we had a punchy Parsons in the second half. You know, he heard uh that there was a little bit of a curse, the lt curse. He had had a quiet couple of weeks ever since he you know, got sick and he went to the Giants in the Meadowlands and it's been a little banged up. And you guys said he was Lawrence Taylor. And then there's a voodoo curse Taylor, because nobody has more sacks in the first twenty one games of his career than Michael Parsons, no one in the history of the NFL. And tonight was kind of a exactly tonight was kind of one of those, uh like Lawrence Taylor type of games. Though he comes out, he's limping, he's only playing on passing down to in the second half. And he ended up with nine pressures in this game, and I think they almost all were in the second half. At least seven or eight pressures in the second half to force fumbles. Uh. He forced the holding, called a few tackles for lost three quarterback hits like he was in the backfield basically every play he was on the field in the second half of this game. And he made it much like Monday Night for the Rams, impossible for them to run an offense. Now, this is absolutely a Rams problem, but it's also a anyone that plays the Cowboys problem, because even though Parsons had an epic game, uh, it's everyone else on the offense, on the defensive line too early in this game that made it tough for the Rams, and they they are a problem well, and and I mean Micah Parsons. Late in the game, I saw a cutaway of him after a tackle where he's sort of doing the thing a little kid would do when he's trying to hold in having to go to number one and it's like, oh wait, this guy is playing through a terrible groin injury well well rereaking utter havoc on Matthew standard in the medical staff said he's not at risk of injuring it further, so that makes sense that he was staying in and he's great. So he kept making an impact. So you have the defense again, they've given up one touchdown exactly in every game so far this year. All five opponents have scored exactly one touchdown, nothing more, nothing less. So you know what you're getting from Dallas's d as long as they stay healthy and this isn't a serious issue for Parsons hopefully and he continues to dominate. That's going to be a big part of this. On the Ram side of it, you know, this is really bad. This is it is. I remember after like week two or three, Mark we talked about the Rams and I was like, you know, let's see where they're at. Let's see once they get their footing. And now it's I don't think it's too soon to panic with the Rams because you take out take away that Cooper Cup seventy five yard touchdown in this game, and that's it. There is no juice to this offense. Stafford looks old. He doesn't look and I'm not saying he is old and he can't play anymore, but the way things are moved being the way the offense looks his inability. He's starting one touchdown pass and three games now, and and the Rams are not getting anything on the ground two and a half yards a carry on fifteen carries. And as we know is everyone knows Allen Robinson is not working out. Another very quiet game for him. Three catches for twelve yards. So it's that feed keep pumping it into Cooper Cup or else. Well, so their one dimensional on that front because they also and I get that we it's two and half the league or more than that, don't care about running the ball. But like there's zero balance to this offense. They the whole thing channels essentially through Cooper Cup. There's massive protection issues. We can look at what Joe Burrow and the Bengals did with protection issues a year ago. That's a total aberration in the NFL. Matthew Stafford under duress the way that he's been no matter what they've done with their line combinations last week this week have been utter disasters. The Buffalo game, which I was like ready to throw that out because it just seems like maybe that's just not you know, it's week one like that was an indicator of what was to come their core issues. And I know Sean mc vey is after they played the Panthers next week, they've got to buy um. Is it a crisis. I mean, teams have to work the way out of this, but it is because Sean McVeigh has a week in between each of these games to fix it, and nothing's getting fixed. They they've played two of the best defenses in the league in a row, but I think it's fair to say they have a bottom five or six offense right now. I mean, nothing's working. David Edwards, the offensive linemen they were excited to get back this week from a concussion, left this game with after being tested for another concussion, which is very worrisome for him. And when you have two in the short area like that, you know you usually not playing football for a long time. But it's also some of their their regular starters, they're we're getting beat. I mean it was Havenstein was getting beat. He's he's their best guy. And on defense, I asked for them to step up and they did. I mean, the defense gave up only fifteen points in this game, and three of those were on a turnover that they basically stopped and held up in the red zone. So the defense did everything they could. They did give up a couple plays. We listened to the Pollard play, but I'm not going to kill the defense on a day right when Rush barely got over a hundred yards. You are playing Cooper Rush, who's played well, but it's a backup quarterbacks. But they got pressured. They made a couple of plays. Uh you mentioned the cup play for seventy five yards to to at well, they was the other one they took out the moth balls and and he had a fifty four yard or But they're just very limited right now. But I do think the fact they played the Cowboys in the forty Niners is making this seem even worse than than it is. But that said, if we're they're going to go anywhere defending the Super Bowl titles, like you're gonna probably meet the Niners and the Cowboys again, they have to be a different team in two runs than they are now. And I think they put potentially could be go check out, check out the Rams maybe in November of last year and some podcasts that we did when they were in a deep funk back then, and you would have thought there'd be no way they could get fixed. And then they win the Super Bowl. So it's not over for the Rams. But I think this reason for concern. I just can't see and I not watch anymore Ben squar Nick six yards receptions. I think that's all their offensive for a couple of weeks. But we need to get any six yards of score Nick, six yards of square Nick, six yards to score Nick, no more six yards to score Nick Twitter favorite. I mean he is. He is absolutely more valuable than Allen Robinson. Though I went to I went to go look at Allen Robinson's contract. He has guaranteed fifteen million dollars UH next year. The biggest moment this offseason, granted there there were just just like there's been some there's some crazy moves happened this offseason, but just in terms of a sliding doors moment, Von Miller taking that extra money from the Bills when they came in hot at the very end, and the Rams than pivoting and deciding to use that money on Alan Robinson was a devastating was a devastating one to punch in a row, all right, So we talked about the giants that could be back for Eagles. Cowboys was perfect. This is perfect because Cooper Rush had a hundred in two yards. It's like, okay, let's bring that. It's it's time. But even if if Cooper Rush never threw another pass, if they ever won a ring, he should be first in line with the quarterback who theory won the ring. Good to have a great defense. It's good to have Nick Shook. Let's get to our next game. Josh handles it back, ConTroll, pocket collapstion. Fire's a deep one down field. But David catch that good field. He's gonna salm into the end zone. Cape Davis at the touchdown, Holy Mackerel, Maggie eight yards touchdown. Dave Davis on third and ten at throw too. That's the way to start, Holy Mackerel. It's good to have a gave Davis. John Murphy with the call w g R. That is game. That's that gave Davis. Nice to see you, buddy, facing a third in ten backed up in his own two first drive the game, Josh Allen and deep Davis caught it in stride yards to the house. He added another long touchdown in the second quarter, and the route was on final score thirty eight Bills threes stealers. How far the Pittsburgh football team has fallen in Western New York. Shookye here he is, our buddy, Shook. The Bills are in full flight, and it's a breathtaking watch. Sure, sure is breathtaking, especially when you see them on their own two yard line to start the game. And then there goes Gabe Davis down the middle of the field, streaking down the field. Josh Allen delivers a beautiful pass to him. Yards later they're on the board, and that was just the start they were operating. I explained that though, why you're saying it again? Though wonderful And Dan's rainer. Dan's a little punchy. Nick doesn't know, but Dan's a little punchy. And if ever the Pipe has to worry about Dan coming at him, it's tonight. I don't think the Pipe ever has to worry about they are really anyone else connected to the NFL media group Pipe, Yes, but that was even more impressive. Pipe was that, Uh he's cutting that throw, that spiral through twenty mile per hour gusting winds. But that's just what Josh Allen and the Bills offense is able to do with that. Others can. Yeah, you never would have been able to tell by the statistics for hund In twenty four yards passing for Josh Allen, the Wizard percentage not totally up there, thirty one overall, but it didn't matter. They were just flinging it around the field all afternoon. I don't know if it's a lack of fear in the Steelers defense, which is basically toothless without J. J. Watt rushing the pass, or if they just felt, you know, let's let's throw it around the yard and see what happens. They found a ton of success. They didn't know. It didn't matter who he went to. He was great with Stefon Diggs. Khalil Shakir got his first career touched down today, three catches for seventy five yards. No matter where they went, it worked to perfection. This is the Bills at their peak. This is what we expect from them. Offense will be on a week by week basis. And you know, again, like like I said, against this Pittsburgh defense. You know, they really took advantage. I'm kind of worried about where the Steelers are defensively right now, more than I was even weeks before. Shookie Alan threw for in the first half, and this is I know t J Watts out and they're now o and eight in games where what misses with injury, so you can't you can't not factor that in. I know Micky Fitzpatrick was also banged up in this game, but let's hear from Mike Tomlin. This is the worst worst loss of the Mike Tomlin era, just and it's just more evidence of how different things are now post been post a lot of things at one and four, satisfied with the effort. We just got smashed. Like what are we talking about here, guys? And if you're watching on on YouTube or the NFL channel, you see the intensity um in Tomlin's eyes. This this is this was a non competitive game that was over really boys from the jump on the ninety eight yard touchdown and never it never felt like a real game. I mean, shook. It's a tough spot obviously for Kenny Pickett. The minute that they named him the starter, you kind of look at their schedule. I thought, this Bill's defense in this whole, since situation is gonna be rough. I mean, how did he look to you? I thought, at least what I liked about him, there's a couple of moments where he took that one hit where they threw him to the ground and like it's leg bent and he got up and just like this guy, this guy is like not gonna take it sitting down. I think there's a that's what I kind of love him about his character, and it's kind of fire. Yeah. It reminded me of Joe burrows week two Thursday Night performance in his rookie year against the Browns in which they dropped him back and threw the ball over fifty times. They dropped Kenny pick it back and through the ball fifty two times. Today, it's really speaks to the fact that their offensive line is still not walking well enough to run the ball consistently. The running game is non existent again, and they also dug themselves a big enough hole that they had to throw the football. And yet you know, for the lack of points, I thought Kenny did look good. That interception was probably his worst throw of the day, but he had some really nice connections, some near fantastic completions, uh with with some of these receivers, so they just barely got a foot out of bounds, that type of thing. I like what I see from him. I think you should be very encouraged by him. It's just the fact that they didn't play good enough football as a team to really show that off today. He's still way better than Mr Bussie already. I'm just gonna out right now. And Tony almost sent a lot of the broadcast raving, you shouldn't be this good this early, you shouldn't be this decisive. That's who Kenny Picket is two he was in college, and I expect him to be that guy going forward. It's just they need to have more balanced offense to really show that all the spills defense is a problem for the rest of the a f C exactly. I think it's one of the most meaningful developments of the first five weeks, because ultimately, the first five weeks, what is it really going to tell us about who wins the Super Bowl? But I think their defense is even better than I expected despite injuries coming into the year, and I think it's just gonna make it even tougher to go there and win in the playoffs. All right, Shookie. So the Bills keep rolling. They give zeus or something to think about when it comes to the power ring as they got him at number two, Like, you have a lot to think about. Best team in football kind of thing that I think. I don't want to be disrespectful to the Eagles, but I think that's fine the Eagles fans. I mean the way that you speak about the Cardinals and with the fact that they came within a kick of, you know, competing with the Eagles today, I think you've had your answer and handed out lollipops to the Cardinals today. No, what we were not? Hey, Chookie, do you want to talk about the Browns mark we were not. I'm annoyed by that take because it's not accurate. This is you brought it back up. This is the cross I bear, guys. I'm I'm bearing the Panthers cross this year, and I'll bear the Browns cross. All right, let's hit it. The highlights of Brown's Chargers locked down to four snap, kick is up and it is no good, no good. He pushed it right, yeah, money, the Chargers are going to get out of here with a win, and man, DJ, you want to talk about skin of your differfessional DJ. I mean DJ worked for the Browns and it didn't go great from what I recall. So maybe there's the Ravens which is a more successful Just laughing at the Matt, it's good to hear Matt money Smith's voice today show. I just want to say that's nice a friend. And Daniel Jeremiah with the called k y s R. Brandon Staley Oh's Gate York of Beer. The Browns kicker missed the fifty four yard field goal of eleven seconds to play, allowing the Chargers to hold on for a thirty eight win. That miss came after Staley, the Chargers coach, who likes to play fast and loose, went forward on fourth down UM near midfield, setting up what would have been a crushing loss for the Chargers, and Yet shook e uh, let me tee up Mark on this one um. And yet Mark in the end it worked out because the rookie sensation, who maybe I shouldn't have put it in the kicker kicker club after one week, as it's gone to his head. He can't make the kick he missed two in this game and the game they lost by two. Well, yeah, I mean it's it's a lesson that you know what a kicker does in week one and we've never seen before. There might be rough times ahead, especially if you played for a Browns team that looking at these first five games and shook you. You're feeling this as much as anyone. The inability to close some of these games where you had, like for three and a off quarters. I see so much that I like about this Browns team, especially with Jacoby Prisette, who I never thought would do with what he's done, play the way he has Nick Chubb looking like Jim Brown, David a joke who looking like that contract made some sense at this point. I mean the defense I have major issues with, but they've had a chance to go five and oh and they are a mess record wise because they cannot figure out what to do when it matters most. In the end, I think that any time you put a game on a rookie hicker shoulders, you're asking for trouble. But more importantly than anything, it's the fact that their defense has not been able to put together anything near complete or consistent game. It's been bad against the past the first couple of weeks, it was bad against the run, last week and this week it was bad against everything. So no matter how well this offense places, because this offense is putting a good amount of points on the board with Jacoby Brissette, who's playing above expectation. Anytime you have those breakdowns defensively and they're ugly at times, very ugly, then you're always gonna be in these close games. They've lost their three losses this year combined margin six points. That's something that a defense can change. Is just one or two more stops per game you can in those games. So I don't put it so much on Kad Yorkie. He missed two field goals, he missed an extra point that opened the door for the Jets to win that game too. It's more about the fact that you cannot play consistent defense, and it is embarrassing. It's to the point where I'm watching now to see if they get rid of the defensive cordin inter after only five weeks. Because it's that bad. It continues to happen. It's terrible, and and that's why they are where they are. They're an average team because of it. Because Shook like, this is not a first year coordinator with new players. This is like, these guys should know what they're doing. Part of the part of the reason the Jets get back in is because Denzel Ward, who should be a top five cornerback from what we know, give us up. He's get burned by Corey Davis. It's like, what is going on with this defense? Because we've heard would say, oh, we're gonna need to simplify things. I don't like hearing that from a multi year simplifies a bad sign. They seem like a dumb defense. They make a lot of mistakes and there's a lot of confusion, and they seem like an incredibly soft defense. I mean the Falcons and last week and the Chargers had two hundred and thirty eight yards rushing in this game. Going into this game, they only had two hunder and fifty eight yards rushing on the season. They almost topped that today. So that's not good. And by the way, I see you were trying to get on Staley. They're playing fast. How about you trying to win the game. A couple of times we've been asking for coaches to do that. Forever, give the balls to your best player. And try to win. And hey, baby, how about have two chances to win the game, win on offense or went on defense. That's why you do it, all right, I get it, And to Staley's credit, he didn't back down after the game. He said, We're willing to live with that decision. There was no way I'm taking our offense off the field. And Cleveland's defense thinks, okay, there's logic to it, but I just think it was beyond you know, the Onions put him in a wheelbarrow because you have a two point lead your your own forty six. You're up by two points, you take a time out, and then you go for it. The Browns had seventy seconds and no time outs. If you just execute on special teams, I think you're in good shape. But I understand that side of it. The numbers would say that's like one of the clear No. I know, don't want to just go off the numbers, but that would have been one of the most clear decisions possible, like one of the worst decisions of the week to kick it. And it's because of the It's partly because of the lack of time outs, because you can hope for your defense to stop them still if you so the analytics, Oh yeah, it was like a plus twelve percentage type of point because we I think we agree and see all this business. But like to me, it just felt in the moment a little bit extra. Keenan Allen didn't like it. He was watching on he what did he tweet here? Kild On? He said, what doing? What are we doing? Exactly? Keenan Allen? On my side, that guy is a stud? All right? Chook? You any other thoughts? Uh? A game where the team's combined for total yards fifty three first downs and your boy Jake Brisket has thrown just three interceptions all season, but man, he choosing and killer of all. Yeah, quite time. The last three minutes of the game. Last three minutes of game, he's throwing all. But you know what, I've agree with Greg a lot in my life, including agreeing with him on his decision to hire me way back in two thousand fourteen. Was it great? I never agree with him more than in this three minutes? Right? Yeah? Thanks, Nick, let's get don't know where you're going with that, but I like it. Well, we'll see if you see if you're on the show next week, Nick alright, your Jets are winning. I love it. I love you Nick and I We'll see you next week, buddy. All right, guys, all right, we'll take a break and then we will get to those New York don't you go against those analytics stand never. I wouldn't. I wouldn't, dare We'll be right back to the swaps of Jersey play act. Thompson looks down field under plus the football he was sick. Let's set up by Williams. He's at the five yards before he's brought down the Jets with a strip sack and Williams hands up with him, looks to the first thing called d hear that? Will you hear that? You deserve it? Forty burger bongos, No, not just I deserve it. Jets fans deserve that. You hear the buzz, hear the buzz in the building a MetLife stadium. When Carl Lawson ice is that game with the striped sack of the third string quarterback of the Dolphins, whatever, Bobo shoosing with the call, big play after big play. That was the story in the fourth quarter between the Jets and Dolphins, the Jets making all the big plays. Miami giving them all up, and it ended with the Jets beat the Dolphins, who were three and oh now three and two, and as I said, you had uh to Ah didn't even travel with the team. As he continues his recovery from the concussion. Teddy Bridgewater steps in on the first series, Sauce Gardner blitzes off the edge untouched Wax Bridgewater in the end zone for a intentional grounding safe and Bridgewater suffers an elbow injury, gets examined for a concussion. He gets ruled out, so he is out. So Skyler Thompson, who was a preseason star, steps in and he was fine. I mean he wasn't. He wasn't lights out as you wouldn't expect him to be. But he wasn't the reason Miami losses game either in my opinion. Uh what happened here was the Jets jumped out to a big lead early and Miami gets things under control to the point where early in the fourth quarter, they're lining up for a field goal with a chance to go ahead, and every Jets fan is thinking the same thing, I can't believe we're gonna blow this game with this situation. To run our Armstead also went out for the Dolphins early in this game with a toe injury, their star left tackle, and yet the field goals missed. And then with Breece Hall leading the way, the Jets offense takes over and then the defense gets the stops and all of a sudden, like I said, Mark, there's juice around the Jets. I don't know if they're frisky. I don't know if they're spice. See, but they don't suck. They don't suck, and this is interesting. Very they are certainly frisky. I think they are. Um, you know, just over the hillside exists spicy go to go to lambeau Field next week. The reason I think they are because, like so, spicy is definitely better than frisky, is what we're saying. It's a matter of opinion. I tend to think you graduate from frisky to spicy. I tend to agree with you. I think frisky is also a mood that comes and goes spicy. If you're spicy, you're just spicy. Spicy food stays spicy for the most part. That's what there can you say spicy? Definitely, this team has sucked wind for as long as we've been doing the show. Outside of that fraudulent ten in six years. It wasn't well, whatever it was, it ended in a fraudulent This is actually, I think a day where you could say it is a big win for Joe Douglas, who you know, Joe Douglas gets a lot of praise and it's like we haven't seen it in win, but his picked players are starting to become the core of this team, like Breeze Hall today, Uh Sauce Gardner. I mean it wasn't so much a day, but Garrett Wilson has been good. Zack Wilson after last week he played a steady game. Today it looks like today it's like you can see the makings of a real team. And we finally I thought, got the Robert Sala that we got a little bit on the Niners sideline that I think helped get him a job because the guy was total fire and here he was today very pumped up, and he should be because I think they you put all this work into this and you go through the seasons and it's like last year was so rough, You've had injury situations with your want to be starting quarterback. This year already gotta deal with Joe Flacco and this happens today. I don't really care for the Dolphins side of it that much because it doesn't really matter. It's just the Jets probably learning we can win games. Yes, that matters, and that was they've stolen. The three wins that they have all came two comebacks in the fourth quarter and then this game where they almost let a game get away and then they just imposed their will on an opponent and blew them out of the building. So these are encouraging signs of growth. I think there's some swagger that starts to build with a young team, and the Jets are one of the younger teams in the league, so there's there's much reason for optimism after this game. The earlier comebacks, the Steelers win the Browns, I almost didn't know what to make of those wins because they range from unlikely to miracle. This one's like, this is the one where you go, Okay, I understand that Dolphins were shorthanded, but but it doesn't matter, yes, because the Jets got the job done. And you're right. The thing that's been haunting the Jets during the time we've done this podcast since two thousand thirteen is they don't have any good young players. They they keep whipping in the draft, so they stayed talent for Sauce Gardner also had an interception in this game. He is a big time, big time defensive Rookie of the Year candidate. Garrett Wilson absolutely in the discussion as one of the best wide receivers from his rookie class. And Breece Hall with almost two hundred total yards in this game, he has I think maybe two over two hundred has announced himself as a potential star himself. So there are true reason for optimism. Can you imagine w F A N tonight? Right, but with both both football teams that have been moribund for so long, like showing something. This is the first time since that they've been both over five hundred. They were midway through that year they were it's greats are now they're they're so much more talented just generally. And you're right, that's the thing about putting a little a few deposits in the mojo bank early. You're right, they got a little lucky in those wins. You don't know what, it doesn't matter. Those winds still count who those wins count. And then you have games like this where you totally deserve to win and that counts to and you start to feel that you're in every game that you can win in any situation. You said Skyler Thompson wasn't the reason they lost, but at some I didn't watch the game. You know, they average under five yards per past attempt. They were almost leading the league coming into it at at nearly eight. But also, well, I don't even know what what what was your Skyler Thompson throw? It? Like the numbers lie a little bit because they gained one hundred yards in penalty yardage on deep shots that got flags, so he did take shots. They didn't register in big gains for the receiver statistically, but they moved. They moved the ball with him thrown down field. So um probably would have been better with a quarterback with more experience. But again, like they just got beat on both sides of the ball in the last quarter of the game and turned into they gonna worry if they if they don't have you know, their top two quarterbacks next week. They they also could be without Xavian Howard, who missed this game, their top cornerback, and then the Armstead injury. That's been a recurring injury, and they mentioned that it was a situation where they wanted to get him out early because they have a plan of like a specialist he's gonna see in New York and that that's their big time left tackle who's missed a ton of games over the last five years for the Saints. It's one of the reasons the Saints didn't want to They can't have an injury without it becoming like a total like unsolved mystery. And in in that vein, I do want to say the NFL has the new concussion protocol and you saw with Teddy in this game he had no um concussion symptoms. He passed every test, but because a spotter saw him stumble, he was moved from the game and that was enough to take him out. And now you could either tell me that's the NFL making improvements or you could say some corrective steering has been done to the point where we're not letting guys play when their symptom free and telling the coaching staff I'm ready and I want to go in. This is all fallout from the to injury on the back to back, and we announced this rule change this weekend, so you better believe we're going to find a way to give you an example of it on Sunday specially. I think the whole idea is that guys can pass the test and be symptom free and be very much at risk for uh A head injury like you can look like you've. The players have shown they know how to pass these tests basically when they still are in having a problem. So they're airing now. I understand that remains mur He's still in terms of like you asked the question, what happens in January, if a spotter thinks that Patrick Mahomes took a misstep, is he out of a playoff game? I mean it's there's hopefully we don't find out, but yes, that's that's something to track in the post to a world after his head injury. Let's move now to the Superdome where Geno Mania looks to keep running strong from the rant ash Mark Taysom Hill keeps it looks for first town and he's got it and he's got roomed wrong thirty forty thirty twenty wholly get caught behind. That is gonna be a touch stock Tastom Hill to Tuck Tuck taste some TV. It's the yard my cost with the call w w L. I don't know how Taysom didn't get caught there. He was running out of gas and he's looking behind him, waiting, waiting to be tackled. Just never got tackled. So he goes into the end zone, one of three touchdowns for Hill. Taysom Hill still doing things, including that sixty order. In the fourth quarter, he threw a touchdown pass. The Saints snap a three game losing streak of name much needed win over the Seahawks. Greggy Hill has always been a polarizing player, um, but in this game he kind of saved their butts. He has been great this year. He has been the most consistent part of their offense. This isn't just a one game thing now. Four touchdowns in one game. Also went one for one as a passer you mentioned for a touchdown, so that's his fourth that that's pretty unique. But he's been very valuable for a really disjointed offense. And I know someone could come at me with some numbers, but it feels to me like practically every time Taysom Hill has come into a game this year, like great things have happened. He's their only answer in the red zone. Uh, defenses have not had an answer for him. He's just a great power runner and he almost never throws the balls. Teams know he's gonna run, and this offensive line is blown up holes for him, and he was crucial and finishing those drives. But he also was their kick returner because Deante Hardy got hurt and he had some pretty good kick returns. And oh, by the way, when they're trying to seal the game, I think it was on a camera run. They had to Taysom Hill in at full back and he blows upen a huge hole, knocking out of Seahawk's linebacker. It's like I was thinking about Chris Westling, and I was thinking about Mark in that first Tassom Hill year where you guys were fascinated by him and enjoying it. And this was like an ultimate Tassom Hills crazy He's getting like in a show, a post Sean Payton universe. But I had that Sandwich bet that one year where I think I said he would score five or more touchdowns, and you kind of there was an elongated journey to get to that. I mean it almost happened on one day here. Yeah, it's I remember there was that playoff game. I think there's playoff loss where we were saying player was on the field, but like you don't like that stuff. But he was journey ever since for Hill. So but to see him, you know, carry this team and Andy Dalton Gregg, what was what do we see from him? Because I know Jameis Winston has been now out a couple of weeks and it's very kind of murky his timetable. Do you think Dalton is doing anything to hold onto this job? What do you think it's his job? Yes, just because I think they're just gonna see how it keeps going. He's been far from perfect in both these games. I think he looks similar to a week ago where he's a little late on a couple of throws. He had a bad interception. They also dropped a couple of passes. He wasn't like the answer, but everything makes a little more sense with him. And he also was playing without Jarvis Landry was a surprise late and active without Michael Thomas. And then Chris olav was concussed on a touchdown catch that was overturned and they decided they said it was a touchdown, but he slammed his head after possessing the ball. So they were in a tough spot here offensively, and to me, he's just a little more trustworthy and I think is making more sense in terms of their offense. They need did thirty nine points today because their defense was not really stopping Gino too often. Then again, Dalton, you know, set set up some of those points with the bad I mean Gino with three touchdowns and thirty plus yards. I mean, I think Dan and I are just taking constant l's on the Geno front because I'm playing the long game. But there is no L. The fact that he had a five game stretch like this is beyond anything anyone. He genuinely looks great. He looks great, and he's he it is. It is one of the most bizarre developments of the NFL season because that's the only choice I have at this isn't going to play. I said that I had, I had washed myself of all critique and was willing just to see what he did before the season, and I am seeing it and I'm kind of this is our reality. Dimes in this game. Uh, you mentioned three touchdowns, two d and sixty eight yards. He did take like a sack at the end that was kind of an old you know, when they needed a touchdown drive late in the game that was tough for him to take. Was kind of old Geno held onto the ball. But his great throws in this game were next level. I mean, you have to kind of say, if you're just judging quarterback play on this season alone, he's got a pretty strong argument as a top five quarterback in the NFL this year. So right right now, maybe a true great quarterback would have rallied him to win today. I didn't see the game, but they put up thirty two. They get that last touchdown. They had a terrible day though, because they lost Rashod Penny, who to me is such a key to this offense, to a potential broken ankle that's gonna knock him out for the season. And I just don't think they're the same team without him. One little seat, Like every time I look up at the Seahawks defense, like Tarik Willen is making a play, Yeah, he was to the one. He was the one making Taysom Hill look slow. He had a four to six forties, so that's why he was killed what you're trying to have. I've been I've been pump we can, but I see what you're doing. You're trying to whyt allowing you to enjoy who Fana because he had a good week one and he was assigned to the forty diners. But you're not allowed to like other defensive? Why not own me or set those rules? How about that? I just think you have a company char you are not above me in the company or chart. But is it is it? Is it true or is it not true that you see that I'm enjoying my who found a high life and you're like, oh, I want my own who. I mean, I completely forgot about your Fana thing, and I've been bringing up well in every week. He is amazing of you. Two are intensely possessive. I don't understand it is it is the sport for the all the people, not just It's not to have a little barn of Players's a blank spot for your guy. Yeah, well there's a hundreds of other people for me to pick from. I'm taking Jack Jones to the off the board. Extremely possessive. Just a fun note for this game and for the Saints in general. The Saints are too o against bird teams. It's not gonna like and three against non bird teams, and they have a chance this year. This is not this has been various. Is stupid to third gauntlet that they could play this teams are the card rules in week seven, Ravens in week nine, Eagles in week seventeen. So they have a change ag or six and oaks. They play the Falcons twice or five and or five and twelve. It would be really fun if they only beat bird teams in five and thirteen, if they snuck into the playoffs five and twelve, just let just let you know mathematically, they're a bunch of nugs and they're all good. Speaking of birds, the Falcons, they headed to Tampa. They wanted to make a statement. Could they Rudolphin motion of the right, the snap, play action, fake in the pass, Rady touchstaff Tampa baby, easy pickings for top Brady and literally Tornet. You know that is so on brand. The Bucks are kind of my radar is not a very fun exciting team. We're doing like a screw, you know, a dumb pass to Lending Fournette for the touchdown for the highlight. But that's what it is, but he deserves it. You know why. Lending Fournette was a stud in this game. He's been quiet this year, but he scored two touchdown, had a mess of yards in the bucks. Take care of business over the Falcons marked the Falcons made it close down the stretch. And you were you were very fired up in the newsroom today over a particular call late in this game. Well, I think anyone anyone watching this game would be and and and certainly Falcons fans watched um a potentially season altering comeback melt away with what was one of the worst What happened so late in the game. Tom Brady is driving, but the Falcons essentially have him stopped and throw him down like there is a J. D. Grady. Jarrett's sack on Tom Brady would have ended the drive and it is called essentially for roughing the passer. And he put his arms around him and kind of wheeled him around to the ground perfectly fine tackle. And then this is the call what happened Westernham and Dave Archy because it is it's fitting Falcons radio working for the gun of your retreats. Looking, lookie, here comes Brady dared you shall not pass. That is prey. Surely they didn't call slinging him down. This will be a call for slinging down Brady on this sack. I see a worst play than this. Speak speak to it. That's a disgrace. I mean, we're watching that on the video here and it just it's it was unbelievable. And that drives not even close. That Drive also had a third and four call where the Bucks had the ball and A J. Terrell was called for holding. That was a completely bizarre holding call. And then even later this even this went against this went against the Bucks, but there was a deep shot that should have been passing in affairs so that the calls were all over the place and it seemed like this was almost a make up call of some sort. But it completely changed the game and allowed the Bucks to go on to win. When the the Falcons, like they've done in other games, we're growing spicier and spicier, and they did not have Cordial or Patterson. They're frisky, they are, I guess to me, I want to see them as spicy because we have a spicy, frisky conversation on two because I don't I think we all it's time to have that conversation, and even before when even before when I said I had my definition of of I just I see it as all sorts of things both ways. But the Falcons, I mean, just have to be so frustrated because this should have They mean they still would have had to score a touchdown, you know, they would have. They would have had to. But I think they hand them a victory if they don't get that call. That's all I'm not. No. I think it's just a change. It melted away their shot at going down the field. I'm like, also a little annoyed by your guys. Is a narrative late, like like whoa, I don't like this, Like the style points Tom Brady is not being entertaining enough. He's forty five years old and he has seven hundred and thirty yards in the last two weeks. But it's not like you know what that's saying. It's like, all Matt Riot put a bit of casket and he's eight years younger and Brady's out here throwing and what do you want? You're not wrong, Like I go watch the like a one and a half yard for one second, Go watch the game. Go watch the game and see if it looks like he threw for that much yardage, it's all it's just like, there's not a lot of downfield action. He's so nice stuff with it's not a visual. I'm looking forward to watching this game, so I'll reserve comment on like my thoughts on their offense, but I'd love to see a couple of those like Patent Tommy boys spirals fifty yards down the field that Chris Goden catches and stride for seventy You're just not seeing a lot of explosiveness from the office. But I guess I hear what you're saying. I'm saying this man is forty five years old putting up fifty yards a week. I don't know what should we can bring up his age. We've already we've already because he's doing something no one's ever done in the history of the sport. So I'm missing, I'm grady amount of different curve. I I don't I think you're separating Brady, who's throwing the ball well from the way that it is to watch this offense. It's just something is a downtick from Latin post. No doubt, Um, there was a boy who ran onto the field and according to the Associated Press, was tackled hard by security personnel. This feels like something that would spring from your imagination or maybe it's the boy inside you running onto the field. So it wasn't even a real person anyway. Do you have anything on this? I mean, I think if you know, I had predicted in our October fourth something's gonna happen by then, predictions that a streaker would happen at the Rams it was a protester. But but like within a seven day period too to human beings are doing this? And this is more bizarre. It's a child, right, No one has a video of this, are we We got a child getting slammed on the security here's a ten year old boy. I'm gonna slam them to the turf. I mean to me, if if you run on the field, the laws of society doesn't matter. I read that the mother, uh said that he was ten, but the officials said he's older than ten. And then they said, hey, mom, why are the kids on the field. He's like, I got a lot of kids here. I lost track of this one. How would the security official no, by some he was older than this kid? Yeah, this kid ads some pretty good lateral quickness, So I don't think you cut him any slack. Hey ma, how about we uh don't take all the kids to the game. We can't account for them, right limit the selection of he got body rocks. They would have called the penalty on that. If someone did that, Well, what is the security man is meant to body rock people when they when they I'm not I'm not siding with him necessarily. I side with children. And they did ask Tom about that BS call and he said, yeah, I don't. I don't like the calls. I would say too. So all right, let's take a break. We'll be right back. All right, let's move on and check in with a team of a t And they have to they have to do something. I mean, they did something to Foxborough in the hands. He changed the stuff. He just gonna look to play it out. He's change. But down in the cloud of the ten high stepping clicking, coming down down, there's the call by Bob soci and a sentient powerade bottle w b Z. You know, I don't know, man, I don't know. Kyle Dugar made a house call from fifty nine yards out from Andre Stephenson rushed for a career high buck sixty one and the Patriots mow down the toothless Lions at Foxborough. Greg, you know this is to the credit of Bill Belichick. The Patriots are like unique, and to me that even and now that they're not special. But if they if they're like ready for a team and prepared, and a team comes into their building on certain Sundays, these things happen Like Belichick has a team's number and has them cooked up thirty nothing, forty nothing, fifty nothing, always in play. It happens a couple of times a year. Happened here. I think that's well put in. It speaks to the Patriots will still let other teams beat themselves. And I thought they were so close to doing that the last couple of weeks against two decent teams, the Packers and the Ravens. But when they play a team like the Lions, who are ready to beat themselves, they let it happen and defensively. Bill Belichick at Jared Goff in a vice script, I mean, I was having Super Bowl flashbacks. They got very aggressive with their pressures, and Jared Goff didn't know where it was coming from. This offense, which had scored the most points of any in the league did not know what to do, and goff was holding the ball and having that sort of Goffian type of game, to the point that Dan Campbell's comment to the sideline reporter coming out a halftime was like, jar it just needs to relax back there, and I was like, oh, don't say that publicly. He did not relax back there. Is this a Matt Patricia revenge game? They would have it would have been positioned the other way. I think if they had lost, I'm sure the Lions let's players, Well, it's here and again the team of around the NFL, since we name them the team or around the NFL, are winless in three games. It's uh as bad as it gets. I mean, this is the worst, you know, this is where we're at, and sometimes, uh, it's gonna get It's gonna get bad before it gets better. And and uh, you know, I believe we hit rock bottom it so now the only place to go is back up. What is happening to you day? Play and play? The way the way it led right into Patricia was I'm sorry Lions fans are not doing well because I mean, I think you're gonna bounce back. I guess these things can always get worse. Nothing is pretty bad against the Patriots team that's starting a third string quarterback. It's and the one thing that I wrote about in the Power Rings last week, because like we knew, the defense has all sorts of problems and we saw it again in this game. Uh, but the offense had been scoring thirty five points a game, and the concern was, what if that comes back down to earth and the defense stays bad, then you're one of the worst teams in the league. And that's what they look like. Little based on the score, that's that's what they seem like. They went over for six on fourth downs. Uh, so that was a factor, Like they were moving the ball. That's the most fourth downs anyone's ever attempted, and one at every top five without doing it without gaining one before. Jack Jones is a thing. This rookie cornerback is a playmaker for the page mark and and Matthew jude On has been yeah, you can't have Jack. I'm not playing this game with the two of you the entire episode. And uh, Matthew Judean is having a monstrous season. That was his strip sack. He had two sacks in this game. He has a sack in every single game this season. And yeah you mentioned Zappi. Oh, by the way, the third string quarterback goes sev and his interception only came because Nelson Aghila starts playing volleyball. Patriots, by the way, Yeah, it's almost like all the handwringing about the coaching staff being in tatters. This is a well coached team that's gonna make the most of what they have. The a f C East is back. How about that? This is the best. I don't think the Patriots are gonna be major factors, but I think they're gonna be a tough out. And and uh, this is a team. Let us head to land over which takes the snap looking throwing, intercepted, intercepted, David look shut down. That was the big play and it came the last play. And that's three in a row, never a doubt. Mike Keith w g f X with the call, David Long Jr. Intercepted Carson Wentz to the one yard line with six seconds to play, allowing the Tennessee Titans to escape with their third win in a row over the Commanders. Grave digger. You know listen, don't look now, but all of a sudden, Titans are in first place. Everybody else stinks. The a f C. South seems to be in good order for you, but I'm sure you were white knuckling this one with the rest of Titans nation when Carson Wentz had them at the one right. Well, here's the thing. Carson Wentz had gone the entire game without making a mistake. As a Titans fan, you're like, it's coming here. I had locked up your Titans. And even I was standing next to Greggy in the newsroom. We were watching it as I know he's gonna botch us. He's Carson Wentz. It's coming. It's coming. And after he nearly threw one pick, then he threw the one on the next play. Yep. And this was a pretty ugly game overall. I feel like lots of sacks, lots of holding penalties, both offenses struggling to move the ball. Titans score seven points in the second half, which is the most points they've scored in the second half since Week one, so that was an improvement. I guess um. Both teams really banged up on the offensive line, so it felt like both quarterbacks were under pressure the entire game, and that was just let's see, I'm gonna check right now in real time. Did these teams combine for six d total yards of offense? Here? Yes, because for the fourth game in a row, the Titans allowed a three hundred yard passer, which is the longest streak in franchise history to allow with three such a Titans game, you get out gained by one forty against the Commanders, but you get out of there. That really was a great play at the end. But I don't think it's a rule just because you you can get four plays that you have to throw the ball four straight plays because it's Carson Wentz throwing the ball. I know they don't have eight seconds. When they were set up at first and goal. You kind of put Carson Wentz in sort of uh run pass options situation, get him out on the edge on first down, and even if he gets stuck in bounds and makes a bad decision, you can still get up to the line. Like when he was throwing the ball, it was just waiting for the interception. Well, it was good. Reminds me of also like the Thursday night game, the way that ended with Russell Wilson and straight shotgun with no mo no nobody in motion, no run pass option, and you just kind of like put yourself in a tougher situation. And with wins, It's like, why give him so many chances to to mess with you? Where you he's a big guy like head towards the goal line, good things could happen. But that shook you, I guess next shook he great digger. I think the uh the issue that definitely I would have here is yet one total yards for the Titans, less than four yards per play. Derrick Henry looks like denn Derrick Henry, the big dog is still the big dog. Everything else still seems like a lot of work needs to be I came out of this game thinking that the only playmaker the Titans have on offense is Derrick Henry, and I kind of felt that way going in, but after the game it's just so clear they are passing him the ball more. And they had a brilliant screenplay set up to him where Tannehill made a nice throw through traffic to get it to him, and then on the next play they faked a screen to Henry and came back to Dontrell Hilliard on the other side, who ran into the end zone, which was a nice play. The game winning play for the Titans was a downfield strike to Nick Westbrook Akina, which was like the fourth longest play air yards attempt of the season by any team. And it was a weird play because the cornerback for Washington just like stopped covering Westbrook like midway down the field, Like, I don't know what he was looking at. I would like to know why. In the middle of my Saturday I receive a text com with Jessica sitting in my seat here in the studio with an announcement suggesting that she's replacing me on the show because Justin's visit in this the building with family and making plans for the future and the production. Well, we had friends and family visit. That's a cool thing that the NFL office allows us to do on Saturday. So I think Mark has a problem with that part. Seems nice for you, Yes, So I brought my parents and Jessica and uh my friend a couple that are friends with my parents that I've known my whole life here to see the studio. Wonderful you had all concerned Graver that she missed Mark so much she had to like get into a place where she could physically touch something he had touched once. That's fair question, that's a that's an apt query by Greg. I wasn't until you brought that up. The Commanders were one of eleven on third down, including that interception, their last in the NFC East, and you know, and their first they're done conversion was on that two minutes. The old Zeuser got a little lucky there at the end. Never not as lucky as our eagles. Lockers come on um. By the way, speaking of locks, so Zeusers four and one alone in first place. And you know the west Westling brothers, who do they lock? They were they locked the ring? Yeah? You know what? Can we just go over something here now? I'm thinking about it. Nick's Nick's message that we played in the Thursday show, very confident in the message. He mentioned that his brother Mike old Juser fan wanted to pick the Jets, Jets one, Phil Westling I wanted to pick the Chargers. Eddie wanted to pick the Cowboys Nobody's underdog Eddie, and then the decision was made, though Nick chose the Rams. Isn't it maybe time for Nick to almost as a penalty to give up the video duties and the message to the show on Thursday. I think he should be penalized because if you go back and if you go back the listener and listen to the Thursday show, there is certainly an aura of of Hubris. He made fun of Eddie. He says, Eddie's fame us for bad decisions. So I'm just gonna flip the pick and take the like there is no committee work. He's just sort of slammed them all down and chugged them aside. And then he created the only lost possible and and then he goes on Twitter and he and he tried to make a statement, this loss is a d percent on me. Yeah, we know we were there when you made the pick. Of course it's on you, the quarterback that throws it right to the linebackers tapping his chest as he goes back and side. We know, bro uh. We knew that the Charlotte UH football team, the Carolina Panthers, would have a hard time of it on Sunday, And sure enough, that's how it played out. Baker out of the shotgun for man, pressure frows true high. You know, my Emmanuel Mosley running back the other way, got six octen fives like touchdowns Amen where the house call grant Papa with a call k nb are Emmanuel Moseley returned that interception from Baker Mayfield forty one yards for the score, and the Niners coasted to a thirty seven fifteen win over the Panthers. And I wonder if you wonder if Matt Rule, by the time people are listening to this still has a job, because this is another non competitive effort at home. The team is now eleven and twenty seven under Rule, and you you just get the feeling it's getting close for Rule now. So the Niners kind of just took carry get business in this game. Guys, somebody had to watch it. I watched it. Um, they didn't jump off the page to me or jump off the screen. Garoppolo through for two fifty three and two touchdowns. Jeff Wilson ran for a hundred and twenty yards and a touchdowns. It was a mismatch here, um and Carolina just can't get anything going on offense. Baker near the end of the second quarter suffered an ankle injury and was walking around in a boot after the game, and The only thing worse than Baker this season, Mark would be the idea of playing Baker when he's has no mobility. It just goes from bad for worse, for Carolina and for the Niners, and for a grave digger who locked up the Niners. Sometimes you just take care of business, check the box, like um Day by the Niners, Hannah lock for for Grave Digger. I I like I find the Baby Baker Mayfield journey about as depressing as it gets. I find the dark energy around the Panthers um inexcusable. A lot of it has to just do with the way they've handled this quarterback situation for years. It's somehow gotten worse and worse and worse. And this version of Baker Mayfield, I mean, look at it was. There have been no illusions on my behalf of Baker Mayfield that he was a top ten quarterback for a long long time. But we have seen versions of Baker Mayfield throws that he's made in the past, streaks he's been on games like in twenty when he was a pretty flawless quarterback down the stretch. That player, that person is gone right now, and the in the Panthers as part of that are completely floating. Um, this is the hardest team, one of the hardest teams to watch in the league. I call this an empty restaurant game. You know how it's really depressing to eat in an empty restaurant. You know, you got to stay half there and you were you know, it just seems sad because the place isn't doing well. Watching the Panthers right now with their the head coach situation and knowing that the fan base is turned against the quarterback who's not playing well, and they don't even really have someone to turn to. P J Walker got some snaps in garbage time here. It's just a it's just a bad scene. Laying in that game. I saw some tweets and some pictures just like forty Niners fans were still there, Panthers fans were not, and those that sort of image often does happen on your last day. As as as coach, it's too bad for the forty Niners, uh that they were struck again by more really significant injuries in this game. Emmanuel Moseley is believed to have suffered a torn a c L and I really think one huge difference this year is their secondary has been better chart various word has been a fantastic pickup and Mosley has been a rock solid cornerback right next to him, and I think they're gonna lose him for the year. Robbie Gold got hurt. Jimmy Ward broke his hand. Uh h hurt like two seven. He could probably have some you know, he can come back from that. And it's too bad because otherwise there's a lot of positives for this game. They ran the ball well. They had three or four long offensive drives which they actually haven't done all years against decent defense. Like it was a great game for them, but just more injuries. All right, let's take a break. We'll be right back. All right. The Packers went down opportunity for the Vikings and they get the Bears take care of business. Let's see what happened at US Bank Stadium fields back to pass, grows left, it's hot you meyr Smith marsh back against his former team, stole a little. He slides down down for rick balls for him from his former teammate him mayor Smip Corsat, and he has stolen. Oh, push your cogo Bears head. But Vikings are gonna win. And they did fall out the call k f A and there are there are two listeners that know I'm referencing the nineteen nine Hull Colgan movie. Anyway, Cameron Danceler sealed the victory for the Vikings, ripping the ball away from former teammate amer Smith Marsette near the one minute mark. It's sealed the win for the Vikings. Over for at least one Sunday. The Feisty Bears, Oh, we did factor in feisty. That could be a third christis feisty, spicy. We should do tears. I think my least of intriguing of the of the bunch. I think I think we all are in agreement. That's it's a it's a step. But anyway, Mark, so this game was interesting because it wasn't interesting. The Vikings were cruising and then as the Vikings do, they let the opponent back in. I'm gonna step in here for Mark, because I was assigned to this game and I enjoyed it. I watched it in the late window. Uh yeah, I was in a panic. Always please help me. I would have said that you don't have to. If you don't have you know, you could follow this. They dug his own dug my own grave on that one. O. You gotta give that, yeah that you gotta get the Vikings some credit. They are extremely streaky. Kirk Cousins is maybe the most streaky quarterback in the NFL in general. He can get on hot streaks where he's incredible started, you know, seventeen for seventeen in this game, some beautiful touch passes, and then they can go through total quiet periods. But you gotta admit, when they've absolutely needed a drive this season, they've gotten it. When they've absolutely needed to stop this season, got it, They've got it. And that's why they're three and oh in these one score games, and that's why they don't feel like they should be four and one. But they were clearly the better team uh this afternoon, and I think they deserved this. But I don't apologize for But also I just the slow EBB for Justin Jefferson a couple of weeks ago. He's broken out of that because he exploded in London twelve catches stay. I think when that's happening, then I think Kirk Cousins can overcome his streakiness to some degree. If you're gonna get this out of Jefferson Yeah. But here this is an interesting quote from Cousins. That's what he said after the game. I'm not where I was at the end of last season in that old system, but we're developing it and we're getting there, and I'm excited about that continued growth. It's a start, that's all it is. Though it is a new offense they that makes sense to me. Uh. He also had a bad interception that was part of this comeback. At that point, it was twenty one nineteen the Vikings, and it looked like they might blow this game. They were, they were up twenty one to three at halftime. Justin Fields definitely at his best day throwing the ball. They protected him really well. So there were some encouraging signs, uh for the Bears. But like I said, like they were down, they were down one. Okay, Vikings, you've kind of got pushed back. What are you gonna do? And they just marched right down the field a dominant drive. Jefferson gets the two point conversion. Like Cousins, made really nice throws when he absolutely needed to justin fields, check in before we move in. Yeah, he played well the first half. Not so throws for two eight yards. He was he had he was back there cooking steaks. Uh, so that that helped that he was protected really well. But had That's like the new phrase kids are saying that. Kids are saying these they're back they're cooking steaks. That they were saying that about a quarterback being well protected or something else. They're no, they're talking about quarterbacks that are not. No. I don't know if they're they're gonna say he kicked up. Also, there was like a play he ran on that got overturned by penalty that just reminded me, gosh, you gotta get dustin fields. In the open field running it is fearsome when he has a had a steam behind him. Kevin O'Connell in his bag in this game, I mean they were they were trick players. Justin Jefferson had a nice pass. There's like a push pass the reagor like everything was working for a little while. Anybody on the Minnesota defense that might fit the mold for Mark having a guy I would not go inc north Al. I thought, you're gonna say, is there anyone kiked up on the Vikings defense? I was like, I'm gonna have tother is I'm sure that they're they're fit individuals. All right, we'll run it out of games to find a guy from Mark. I mean, Cameron Danzler is having a year for sure. He's like you, you don't need to organize this. This is not it's not how this works. You don't overrating my interest in in in the whole thing too. That's had to Jacksonville. Second and goal, inside the long Pierce to loan back Mills under center, off handoff Pierce to the goal line. He's in the text sense, take the lead, AH one yard touchdown run by Damian Pierce. Welcome back to Gator Country. Banging Mark Van a mirror. That's the first time we've heard his voice. K I L T. Damien Pierce ran for ninety nine and a touch a score that was set up by a twenty yard run in which he broke not one, not two, not three, not four, not by but six tackles, and it helped allow the Texans to beat the Jaguars six. They've won nine straight against the Jags. Um, it's preposterous, Mark, Is this your game? Yes? It is okay. My my system has been shaken. I'm powering through. It. Sounds like yet another masterpiece from the a f C South Division. Uh, this was I felt like this game was roughly eleven and a half hours long. Um, when you get one of these in the early window, it can affect your Sunday. I did not allow it to. I just let it be. But here's the thing. The Texans like if you squint occasionally, you can kind of see what they're trying to do with their offense. Because Nico Collins, who we've talked about a lot like, I don't think it's been largely invisible this season compared to what I thought, made a couple of big catches in this. Davis Mills made a couple of nice throws. He also did not play well for big chunks of this. But Damian Pierce is the real deal. The bigger story for me, though, is it was another case study of the Jaguars who have been really up and down, not being able to close. They at one point had a drive where they went nine plays sixty eight yards to the Houston seven, and then Trevor Lawrence rows an absolutely terrible interception to Derek Stingley. He's the reason sometimes a lot of times these drives don't fit. James Robinson stuffed on fourth and one. They were owing three on third down the four. The last of those was fourth and ten, one forty one left there, down thirteen six, Trevor Lawrence fires the ball off target. Game over. Essentially, Houston closed it out from there. And it's just like I it's not a weekly referendum on Trevor Lawrence. I know we're not allowed gonna you don't want a week referendum Lawrence because but if we're gonna do that with every other young quarterback to some of gree it's just like he's there were a couple of really good weeks where you started to see progress, but he was back in the place today where I thought he's just missing Keith throws in the games. Maybe maybe I was more speaking about last week, you know, with the conditions and whatnot. Maybe he was taking easy with the referendum. But this was set up well for Lawrence to have a great game. He's home, he's against the Texans, the only winless team in the league, and to play poorly. Yeah, you if you're if you're a Jaguars fan that was sold on generational guy, here I am doing it now. You're expecting him to play better than he played today. They did have four D twenty two yards of offense like Travisy Tien a couple of big runs. I mean again, you can squint and see it with both these teams. But the Texans put up thirteen points. If you told the Jaguars you're gonna have it to deal with, you have to overcome thirteen points, and you can't do it. You put up six passes, just sale on Lawrence and that's what happened to him on a couple of open throws, and that that's a recurring issue going back to last year. That that was like the one thing where I was like, I'm not blaming that on urban Meyer when he's just drops back to passing sales passes, and that that's happened a little too much. In all three of their losses Dan he had an interception or a turn over in the final possession when they were trying to drive. Not a good look, Grave Digger. I'm starting to think now we'll see the Jaguars have had some good moments early on this year too, but the last two weeks have been pretty dire. Um. If the Jaguars continue along this path, you could win the a f C South with seven wins. Well today, the three weeks from now, Colts are back in second place, just like we all expected preseason, the Jaguars third, Texans fourth, like everything that happened the week the Jaguars to take that step, and we were all feeling like that was gonna happen. And now you're right back to wondering if there's still the Jaguars. And now the Colts played the Jaguars next week, and then the Cults, and now we've got the rarest of all rare things. We've got some trade breaking news during the show. A trade on a Sunday night, justin Graver breaking news to these two teams. That would be even more I wish, But the Browns are acquiring former Pro Bowl linebacker Dion Jones from the Falcons, Nick stains for a late round draft pick. Probably solved. They have injury issues at linebacker. I mean, and they and they they're getting run over like they are. So Jones we talked about throughout the summer. Is he gonna get moved or cut? He does get moved, just in October and not August. The subject of about four hundred words that I wrote at halftime of the Falcons Patriots Super Bowl Dion Jones and there you go, Mark, what in what way? I don't know you have Maybe the on Jones will tap into the fountain of youth and be that game change where he was. Maybe he was. I just like the idea that they like went home after the game and they're like making a trade on Sunday night. Never seen that yards rushing this week? Still get married, Mary, Kay, cabin off my back, says your boy. And she was probably home having a glass of wine at this point, and then she's back on the on the right. I gotta sit down and write eight hundred words on this, please. I'm all right, one more game. Let's hit Sunday night, pup. It will be a forty three yard field goal attempt for Justin Tucker. Snap is good, hold us down, kick on the way it is up. It is good. Time I was expired and handing the ball. What a night for the Ravens. They come back to beat the Bengals nineteen seventeen, and they do it on the right foot of Justin Tucker. Was there ever a doubt? Not here Justin Tucker. And here's the thing about Justin Tucker. When Justin Tucker makes a field goal, it doesn't just go through the uprights, it splits him. You could mathematically measure each side and it will be a perfect split of the uprights. He did it again, Bangs at home from forties three was forty three. It was the difference was the final play of the game. Ravens nineteen Bengals seventeen. Uh. Tucker got that opportunity because Lamar Jackson and the Ravens offense took over in their final possession and was able to march the mark fifty yards into field goal range in two minutes. And that came after Mark Joe Burrow, with Tee Higgins sideline with a knee issue and an inability to tack down field, still put together a thirteen place seventy five yard drive that gave Cincinnati the lead briefly, but they couldn't hold on. So Cincinnati two and three Baltimore three two to me a very a f C North game. It doesn't change that much what I think about either club. I mean, I think as much of the Bengals fifteen play seventy three d yard marks a long, slow drive. Well, no, I mean so that actually to me felt like a major lost opportunity. It ends on downs like they leave points on the board. They opened with four punts. I came out of the scene that at Cincinnati had moved away from some of their issues, their offensive line issues, and that was not the case tonight. I mean, like lay All Collins at one point was you know, he had Zach Taylor grabbing him by the waist trying to talk to him up and down the sideline after a messy series. Think that was that fourth down play that college. Don't know what that was about. That could have been just Collins was fired up because the play call was so bad, or it was college Chris Collinswood said that perhaps he ran the wrong play Collins he was JPP came in and took care of all Collins just like that. It was a messy Bengals game That kind of reopens the questions of like, why does this offense look so completely different than it did last year when they also had line issue. But they did run the ball much better tonight. Joe Mixon looked like he had juice for the first time all season. I at no point if I felt like They've solved their offensive problems. They hit a couple of big plays against the Dolphins. The Ravens, on the other hand, though, I think are solving their defensive problems. Really since Marcus Peters got healthy and back in the lineup, they've been pretty be competent now the last couple of weeks. And this was Lamar Jackson's worst game of the season. I don't even think there's a question. And yet when he gets the ball at the end that drive is too quick, throws to Mark Andrews and then Lamar running the ball four out of five times. He is a unique problem. Yeah, you can start backing up your defense. It was like they're putting seven defensive backs on the field on that last drive and Lamar just runs up the gup and if he didn't get tripped up by his buddy DuVernay, he might have run in for a touchdown. Yeah, and John Harbor obviously took a ton of heat UH for his decision to go for the touchdown against Buffalo on fourth down. It didn't work out, and then they lose that game. In this game, bleeding into the game winning possession Baltimore's previous UH possession, they had marched to essentially what the goal line they were inside the tenure with the three, they were the three yard line, fourth in about half a yard, and in that case they decided to try to draw Cincinnati off sides and kick the field goal. So I think Ball got it wrong both weeks. I think you should have kicked the field goal in week four and went for the touchdown in week five. He doesn't. It ends up not costing him, but if it did, it would have been another another postgame press conference where Harbus taking a ton of heat. But thank god for for Justin Tucker because that's part of the greatness of Tucker and everybody. You know, Dan's always on one about the kickers and all this on the show. But like with Tucker, people need to understand that this is this is this is one of the great players in NFL history, um doing his thing. So when you take over down one point, you know, all we need to do is get within Even he hit a fifty eight yard or in this game as well, Justin Tucker, just give him a chance and you'll win. And there's no other team that has that weapon. When there's teams this week especially that have the opposite of that. The Browns lost the game on a missed botched last second field goal. The Cardinals went down in flames because of it. I mean, there's back up, an incompetent kicking happening the extra point and you're you're to McPherson is like, it's not been his money for him this season. It's been a little bit more of a challenge. Tucker never has those slumps, right, And I think it's just a massive win for the Ravens. It's a bigger win for the Ravens than it would have been than it is a loss for the Bengals, just because the way this season has gone. They've they've looked like a good team this year, but the way that they've lost those two games, coughing up big leads, and they were up ten nothing in this game too, and Lamar had an ugly interception which really changed the game, and then he missed two wide open deep shots early in the second half. So it's just so they it was just a game they would have been kicking themselves big time, especially after the Bengals swept them a year ago. Said to pull it out. I think it just calms this season down for them, a season that they just keep having injury problems, Marcus Williams left this game, but having Ronnie Stanley back for this game and looking almost like afferent player, like he lost a lot of weight. Sure looked like kind of rotated him in and out of the h he was. It's just like some good signs for them. J K. Dobbins ran hard tonight, some good and I feel the Bengals, you're gonna try a Philly special get your act together. Well, you know that was the second time today where Philly Special was drawn up and failed in the London game. A nice job by the Bellinger to react to that. Instead of throwing an interception or even thrown it away, he managed to score on the ground. It's just not that special play to me anymore. It's kind of just it's just become part of Like all I was doing was just setting you up to give your little riggamar rale about the one of the greatest plays in Super Bowl. His listeners who have joined the show at some point in the last four years now, and we do have a lot of new listeners. Shout out to the new list I mean, it's hard to keep up with some of the h Mark once predicted that the Eagles would have a play that would have a name that would uh bigger than the helmet catch, and it ended up being the Philly Special, one of the top probably ten plays in Super Bowl history, A great name. I mean, there was a lot more to play in that game at that point. Right now, it was like, oh what a what a classics second quarter play. Um, it's just it's an utter. It didn't top the catch and ultimately you lost. That is simply because we now were just a it's a three person committee that I'll be outvoted on over and over on idiotic tangents like this. Um. Anyway, before we say goodbye, uh, we mentioned uh, justin you came to the studio with your family and your lovely girlfriend Jessica. Um, there was some type of text dispatch that you wanted to share where I'm asking you to share. Yeah, so I just sort of texted here. I was like, oh, Greg was just asking me if I was concerned about Jessica missing Mark, and she said, ha ha ha, I missed those guys, but I missed Dan the most. She said that. I don't know if she's being serious or tell her I miss her, But that's not the that's not the headline here? What the headline is? This is something that's gonna keep Secler up at night. No, it's actually just one less thing for me to worry about. I got plenty of my plays. Okay, so before you were worried about it that. I don't even where to go with that. Mark, Mark had made plans while we were in London to hang out with Jessica when she came back to the stage. I was included in those. You're pretty sure also, I don't even sure if that's factual. When you weren't certain though that you were involved in the plan, right, I was not certain. No, it was a conversation name did you? Did you ever? I don't know if this is getting to door just did you ever hang out with her? Ax? Like the three you guys that did that? It ever start that way? No? No, okay, I have met him, but okay, I'm sure. Well by the way, Yessica, I've recorded, he'll hear, I've filed and I've noted who you you missed more that it was Dan. You know, Mark is not the only one here with feelings. So that I'm having the time of my life. Good stuff, good stuff, all right? Well, that uh, that's just a nice double. You get a W with the Jets, and then you get a W with Yessica, and it's like what else the old When Tugbell puts his head to the pill tonight, I'll be like, hey, this is one of the good ones. You know, life's filled of them. There's good ones that there's bad ones, and then there's just you know, days that are yeh. This one's like, you're smiling, you got a W two, you know. I think she she knew that when she threw that little bomb into the show. It's like a whole another minute of Yessica talk. And Mark, I don't imagine that you were going to sleep either way tonight, but that will probably not make it any easier. I would imagine you're over you're overvaluing my concern on this particular topic. But I'm happy for you that you've had a day that makes you so thrilled with your existence. Thank you, Thank you for that, thank you for saying that. All right, that's it. We'll be back on well Monday night. Greggy has his Monday night football vanity projects, so make sure you check that out. What is the game? I mean, if you don't want me to continue to useful project. Also, it is you know what did I say? You called it? It's not. It's Nick and Rosenthal vanity project, which there are too many vanity projects. Football Recap, What was the game again? It's Raiders, Chief Raiders. That's a good one. That's good. Maybe check that one out. Tuesday we'll be back with Colleen Wolf and all that good stuff. That's it. Dan hansa signing lot for Quiet Storm, the Old Boss, Grave Digger, the Pipeli. It's their Chris every time. So Tuesday he's the call s