Episode 268

Sword and Scale contains adult themes and violence, and is not intended for all
audiences. Listener discretion is advised. What was the reason for that? It's
just to bring in a bathroom. Yeah, I don't know why we brought
her back into the bathroom. I guess we didn't want to bring her into
the bedroom. And then yeah, and then Johnny slit her throat too.
Hello and welcome. This is season two, episode two sixty eight of Sword
and Scale, a show that reveals that the worst monsters are real. And
well, we have a new episode of Sword and Scale television in case you
haven't seen it. It's episode four, the story of a Blood Cell,
and it really does prove that if you are a woman, my heart goes
out to you because men suck. About nine miles north of the city I
used to live in, Atlanta, Georgia is the small county of Gwinnette.
Within that county, there is an even smaller city named Sawane. Swanee is
a progressive place with a rapidly increasing population, and it is currently ranked by
CNN as number ten on their list of one hundred best places to live in
America. With a low cost of living, a low crime rate and a
fairly decent public education system. Sawani is pretty much as ideal as it gets
for the typical middle class family. In twenty seventeen, there was a small
family living in Sewanee. They were the Spencers. On April eighth, the
mom of the household, Linda Spencer, was at home with her fourteen year
old daughter that night at around nine thirty pm. Linda's daughter was in the
kitchen baking a cake when she heard someone knocking at the front door. It
was like, I'm gonna say, like nine forty five something like that last
night because my son wasn't off of work yet, between I guess nine thirty
nine and forty five. Then he knocked at the door and my daughter answered
it. She that had a top lot, so she thought it was her
brother, so she went to unlock it and lived to the people, I
was Johnny. So she opened the door and he walked in, and I
don't think he had any shoes on, but he had like a basketball and
a towel on his neck. The young man at the door was nineteen year
old Johnny Ryder. Both Linda and her daughter knew Johnny. He was friends
with Linda's son When Johnny entered their apartment, it was obvious that he was
having a very rough night. Johnny was shirtless, his eyes were beat red,
and his nose was caked with dry blood. Also, Johnny wasn't alone
with him was a girl that looked to be about Johnny's age, and what
do you know about her, whom never seen before. Johnny and his presumed
girlfriend were distraught and had obviously just been through some sort of tragic and possibly
violent ordeal. So Linda asked Johnny, what happened? You know, upset?
And I said and asked, what's wrong? He said, he got
to a fight with his mom and she pepper freed him and kicked him out
of the house. And I talked to him for a few minutes, and
I gave him hug because he was crying. He was really upset last night,
so I didn't ask him too much about it. I figure he'd talked
with my son about it when he got mom. Linda didn't get many answers
out of Johnny other than he'd gotten into a fight with his mom, who
apparently pepper sprayed him and threw him out of the house. Linda's teenage daughter,
who was with Johnny witnessed what had happened. All he said was,
hey, you know he was crying. He's like my mom, kepper surved
me of the house. I like hit something and I he pushes all the
way out out of the house. And I guess I'm figuring Cassandra's there because
she said that I got some of the pepper spray. Oh, guessing she
was there too. Linda's daughter also learned the name of the girl who was
with Johnny. She was seventeen year old Cassandra Fyork. Now, how do
you know? So they've known each other since I think middle school. I
think it was yeah, he's friend, and then we just met Cassandra last
night. He asked for to come in. So I don't know who she
is Cassandra or Cassandra Bjorg or Casey. She was known met Johnny through a
mutual friend, and the couple had only been dating for a short time.
So when did you and Johnny kind of start dating? When it was around
the time? We remember the last time I saw him, it was about
I don't think a month ago, so it was I was around then,
was it? One question by police, Casey explained what she witnessed happened between
Johnny and his mother, and like his mom was started tripping out on this
thought we were intruders or whatever something like she's certainly yelling at Johnny and like
going crazy. And then all of a suddenly there was like pepper stray everywhere,
like like she's certainly pepper straying us, really is mom? Yeah?
Yeah, Like you know, she was just like pepper spraying us, and
you know, like our eyes were burning and like we were trying to sleep
to get away. After the fighting and pepper spraying ended, Johnny and Cassie
went to the only place that Johnny could think of to go. They went
to Linda Spencer's apartment. Johnny was friends with Linda's son, Jacob, and
he was hoping to find Jacob there. Jacob was at work at the time
and the only people home were Linda and her young daughter. Still, Linda
took Johnny and Cassie in and allowed them to spend the night. Then the
next morning, something unexpected happened. When this sort of mad announcement was in
my room better friendly to my daughter. I thought it was a joke because
I knew that they were having coffee before I went into my bedroom. It's
I thought, I don't know they was somebody with like a megaphone or something.
So I called my son. I'm thinking, and what the hell are
you doing? And then I looked outside the lines and I'm like, what
the hell is going on? Because I saw the vand with somebody up on
top. I mean, when I saw a swat team with a van and
somebody, I was like, fuck. This was a police swat team stationed
themselves outside Linda's apartment, and through a megaphone, a SWAT officer ordered everyone
in Linda's apartment to come outside. When this happened, Linda's daughter went into
her brother's bedroom, where she found Johnny and Cassie. First of all,
just gonna tell me what what happened this morning. I know you said you
were asleep and everything, but I care what going on. I just woke
up and then all we heard was the sirens. Okay, you're freaking out.
And then we were like, what's going on? And I'm like,
he's got sky go outside. So they said, oh yeah, my brother
and her mom just go outside. Yeah. Then I went to my brother's
room where they both were. Who was there? Johnny and Cassandra who they're
there, and I was saying, I'm scared he was hugging this in It's
okay. Linda, her daughter, and her son promptly followed the instructions of
the swat team. They went outside, where they were detained and questioned.
Meanwhile, Johnny and Cassie remained in the apartment and refused to go outside.
It turned out that most of what they told the Spencer family were lies.
Johnny's mom did not pepper spray him the night before, and she did not
throw him out of the house. So you guys come home. You know,
Johnny was smoking weed in the living room with his girlfriend. Yeah,
it was smell. So Mindy was as first. First as Mindy first entered
the house was did you smoke inside the house? Moms coming in ten minutes.
And then we walked into Mindy's room and as soon as we entered the
room, everything was just slipped. Everything like even her friends watch was gone,
half of her clothes were gone, and all her suffered was flipped,
like all the boxes private personal suffer flipped. So we were really mad.
Man. We knew Johnny did it, so we were asking him did do
it? And he was kick lying, so I was like, oh,
it's okay, shut room. You know, we can't call police about it.
On the evening of April eighth, twenty seventeen, twenty year old Mindy
Writer and her boyfriend went out to dinner together and later arrived at Mindy's house.
When they walked outside, they saw Mindy's younger brother, Johnny, and
his girlfriend Cassie on the living room couch. The house reeked of marijuana.
This was concerning because Mindy's mom was expected home at any minute. Eventually,
Mindy made her way to her bedroom. Once there, she found out that
she'd been sacked, and she suspected that her brother was the culprit behind said
ran sacking. When Mindy and her boyfriend confronted Johnny, they threatened to call
the police. At that point, all hell broke close, and I told
my brother, I know you did this. You guys, you and your
girlfriend are the only ones I've been home, like, just own up to
like, just own up to it and tell me I won't call the cops
or anything. And at the time he was on the phone with my mom
and he was like, so if you don't, if I own up to
it, you won't call the cops, and I said yes. So when
he hung up and I hung up on the police, I already died on
nine one one. And then all of a sudden, he goes out and
comes back in and just phrase us straight in our faces and starts hitting us
and tells his girlfriend to go grab the bat. As it's like a few
seconds later, I started getting bear straight. It was at bear straight.
It wasn't even Pepper straight. So I start getting for good ten seconds.
I wasn't in the room but that gas stub room. For a whole time,
I had to fight for my life and Mindy. They also tried to
kill us. Johnny was holding my head. He was telling her to small
cool patling pace, and she brought that. She brought the best. When
she hit the Mindy's head, her her head was opened, and I see
her coming with the bat and the first thing she has just hit me across
my back and I try to grab it from her and she hits me on
the head. And Kevin and Johnny are fighting in my room, so I
chased her out to the living room. Well, who had the bad both
of the Johnny and the case the girl, so both of them took turns
with the bad. Yes, sir, They each had a bad, each
had a bad We were all bloody. I eventually run to the bathroom and
I washed my face and I try to get blood and the pupper spray.
Johnny and Cassie attacked Mindy and her boyfriend. They sprayed them with bare repellant
and attempted to beat them unconscious with baseball bats. Eventually, Mindy retreated to
a bathroom where she could still hear the fight and may him through the bathroom
door. I hear Kevin buy you my brother, like Johnny, please don't
do this. You don't have to do this. And I went in the
room and Johnny had Kevin in a chocoal and my brother's girlfriend was in there
with the bat, and so I was able to grab her by her and
I take the bat away from her, and I started hitting my brother,
telling him to let go, and then I handed the bat to Kevin,
and then Kevin was going to hit my brother, but my brother caught the
bat and then we all fought over the bat and it was me and my
brother on my sofa, and then Kevin grabbed a beer bottle and told Johnny
to stop to just let us go and we won't do anything. But my
brother said he will never do that, and so Kevin hit him on the
top of the head with a beer bottle and it shattered. We kept fighting
for the baseball bat and then he told his girl, so they'll get a
hammer, like a big steel hammer like this space we after Johnny had Johnny
was like, bring a hammer. He called her to bring a hammer,
and it on our heads. Essentially, Johnny and Cassie tried to murder Mindy
and her boyfriend. Thankfully, their attempt to commit double homicide was unsuccessful.
But how'd you guys break away from them? They just left? No,
I fought to it. So I thought, if I didn't want to defend
or defend Indy, we would have been possibly then okay, so you focked
them off and then they just left and her mom came a car leaving a
car or what happened is missing? Okay. Eventually Mindy's mom showed up,
and when she did, Johnny and Cassie fled. On their way out,
they snatched Mindy's car keys and stole her car. According to Mindy, this
wasn't the first time that her brother, Johnny stole something. Johnny had a
criminal history and at the time of the attack, he was on probation.
What a great system. I'm not sure she already, but he has previous
criminal charges and my mom's still pilled paying his bill right now. Four going
into vehicles and taking people's things cars. After fleeing the scene and stealing Mindy's
car, Johnny and Cassie drove to Linda Spencer's apartment again. Johnny was friends
with Linda's son and he was hoping to find her son there. Linda's son
was at work at the time, but he did eventually come home and speak
to Johnny. I was at work, so I didn't get here to attend,
so I didn't see. What's your ma say? Why do you?
Who do you show up with Cassandra or Cassie whatever he is? Have you
met her before? You know? No, I've only I only saw her
at high school. I never talked to her anything. So he showed up
with Cassie. What did he say? Why was just show up? He
said that well, he got pepper sprayed by his mom, and he told
me that he was just talking to her and that she got she's pepper sprayed
in the face, and then she kicked him out and then came over here
nowhere to go hitting me on do you really think as mob Pepper sprayed him.
Johnny and Cassie lied to the Spencer family about what happened, and Linda
Spencer agreed to let them spend the night at her home. The next morning,
a swat team came looking for them both. Watch'll who you let stay
in your home people, especially if they show up shirtless and bloody in the
middle of the night. When the cops showed up, what did Johnny wondered?
How did Johnny act? Well, we didn't know who they were calling
for because we couldn't hear. And then I said, Johnny, there for
you. He's like, He's like okay, and he just kind of sat
He's kind of sat there and was talking to Cassandra. He was saying,
I'm not going back to jail. And I was like, Johnny, you
have to out there. I told him that you can't do that us.
The Spencer family left their home and were promptly questioned by police. Meanwhile,
Johnny and Cassie remained inside the Spencer apartment. I like to know what makes
this guy click or something obviously snapped, and I don't know, I want
to say, because he also beat the ship out of his sister and his
sister's boyfriend with a baseball bat. She had I guess seven staples in the
head. Uh, there's a welt on her back. The boyfriend got his
tooth chipped out. Cindy yep, so something something trigger, something triggered him.
So he's a very he's a very angry person. The attack on Mindy
and her boyfriend was brutal, and as the police continued investigating, they came
to find that this attack didn't just happen out of the blue because of an
argument about a messy bedroom. This attack was planned. Johnny fully intended to
murder his sister and her boyfriend. I really think they planned this before.
Kyle blamed that because I told him my mom's ten minutes away, and they
seemed kind of shocked, and then they seemed really calm, and then they
sprayed us and tried to knock us out. Thankfully, Johnny was unsuccessful in
his attempt to kill Mindy and her boyfriend. The young couple was able to
defend themselves. Unfortunately, this wasn't Johnny's first attempt at double homicide, and
his earlier victims weren't as lucky. A few days before Johnny attempted to kill
his own sister, he violently attacked an unsuspecting married couple as they slept and
brutally murdered them with a tire iron and a butcher knife. In April of
twenty seventeen, twenty year old Mindy Rider and her boyfriend were brutally attacked inside
their home. They were sprayed with bear repellent and beaten with baseball bats.
Thankfully, the attack ended before either of them lost their lives. The culprits
behind the violence were Mindy's younger brother, nineteen year old Johnny Ryder, and
his girlfriend, Cassie bjorg. Seventeen year old Cassie lived in Gwinnette County,
Georgia. When Cassie was about fifteen or sixteen, she moved out of her
mom's house to live with her grand parents, Wendy and Randall b Yorke.
According to their neighbors, this move that Cassie made was done out of necessity
and I never really asked Wendy any questions about it, Like, I just
let her tell me what she wanted to talk about yeah, I guess,
and Randolph found out that Cassie was being sexually abused by her father or her
stepdad, so you know, they filed for emergency custody because Amanda, her
Wendy and Randall's daughter, wasn't doing anything. Late. Allegedly, Cassie had
been sexually assaulted by her stepfather and Cassie's mom hadn't done anything to stop the
abuse. So Cassie's grandparents took Cassie in and despite their best efforts to help,
things didn't go well. Cassie was unruly and the very definition of a
troubled teenager. Who could blame her? Say again, it sounds like there
was a history of something like that. She was in and out all the
time running away. Last time she ran away she was gone for months,
okay, and she had been in and out since then. The problem is
that Cassie was having went beyond instances of her running away from home. Cassie
was also extremely violent towards her grandparents. I mean, the calls had been
called out to her house and a bunch of times, and like she was
on probation during this time for hitting her grandma. So it was the one
instance where she bought her grandmother. What did Cassie say happen? She said
that they got to an argument Wendy bidder and then she hit her back to
defend herself where she I mean, she went Wenny's ass when it was pretty
bad. Wendy had showed me all the bruises, and she did bought Cassie,
but she bought her because Cassie was checking her out. Cassie literally had
her own around her neck like this, and Wendy squeezed her shin down the
bit of like you. Cassie dropped out to school and was put on probation
in February. They say long term behavioral issues led to her grandparents taking custody.
The family tried to remove her from a bad crowd and dilute to stability
with her grandparents in Lawrenceville, but there were at least thirteen calls to police
and assault charges for striking a grandparent. One question, Cassie freely admitted that
her relationship with her grandparents wasn't good and that she did assault them on multiple
occasions, though from her teenage perspective, she felt justified in doing so.
I wasn't having a good relationship with my grandparents, like it just it started
getting really bad, you know, like that I got a charge from him
because you know, like I thought them, you know, I might have
broken like my grandpa's grips when you know, for that charge for simple assault
and simple battery. You know, they didn't really know what to do.
They didn't really know how to me around me. I guess they didn't really
know how to talk to me. As a result of Cassie's violence towards her
grandparents, she was placed on probation and several attempts were made to make Cassie
understand that her grandparents were just trying to help her. Wendy and Randall only
wanted the best for Cassie. And then my grandma just got really angry with
me, and she told me that she was going to kick me out and
hoe she was going to find somewhere else for me to stay. So in
like a couple of days, so I was like, okay, so I
just left anyway. And I was just like, you know, if you
don't want me that I might as well just leave now. Oh I knew
that because knew she called us and so that you'd run away again, and
that she was concerned and worried about you. Your grandmother loves you, right,
you know how much your grandmother loves you. In April of twenty seventeen,
Cassie violated her probation by running away from home again after yet another argument
with her grandparents. So I didn't know what to do. I just going
in to christ I'm just angry, and then like, did this happen?
Well? Tell me about this this? I don't know what is this?
What happened here? I tried to kill myself. When Cassie was questioned,
she had large bandages on both of her arms because she had recently attempted suicide
by slitting both of her wrists. I just wanted to late to end it.
They just fell like so much, and so I tried to overdose and
they tried to slippers. And you said Johnny was present when you did this?
Did he try to stop you? Did he? What did he say?
Why did he do the same thing? And they brought you here?
Who found you? It was like the swat team was looking for me.
About a week after Cassie ran away from home, she and her new boyfriend,
Johnny Ryder attacked Johnny's older sister and her boyfriend. They spread the couple
with bear repellent and beat them with baseball bats, essentially trying to kill them.
Like all that really happened was me and Johnny were just chewing on his
couch and watching TV. And then you know, his sister, you know,
comes in the house and I go to the bathroom, and then you
know, like I started hearing you know, fighting and stuff, and so
you know, I separate myself, you know, from that situation, and
then his mom comes home and then they just started yelling like crazy, and
then his mom got to pepper spray and he started pepper spray and I said
it, We're just like, okay, let's leave. How did the baseball
bat get introduced into that bat? She has an injury, we're trying to
understand, and she got she had an injury to her head, That's what
I was told. I don't know anything about that. I didn't I didn't
even know there was a baseball. But she got injured pretty badly. Really
is she okay, She's gonna be fine. But she got injured that night
from an altercation that you and Johnny had with her her boyfriend who not her
boyfriend. See that I must have been Johnny. When questioned about the attack
on Johnny's sister, Cassie led her ass off, and she was quickly called
out for doing so. Cassie, listen, I'm never lying to you,
have I I've never misled you, and I've had to take you some pretty
bad news in the past, right I need you to really truly be honest.
Okay, sweetie, Okay, and I know you pretty good and I
don't think you're being completely honest with me. Eventually, Cassie did admit to
her part in the attack, so she claimed that it was all self defense.
Did you hit him with the bat? Is she coming to you or
something? You were defending yourself. I defend myself at me when you hit
her. Was it that I didn't? I didn't need to, you know,
she was coming at me. I didn't know what to do. I
didn't. I didn't think I did that much injury. I didn't seem you
know, her boyfriend broke his teeth, you know. Police investigators slowly got
Cassie to admit to partial truths about the attack, but that wasn't the only
thing that she was questioned about. The investigators had questions about and even more
serious crime. I think you know why I'm here, and you know my
heart is broken. I just need to understand why I wasn't the one who
intentionally thought about it, thought about doing it. Say it once she say
it. It's out killing my grandparents Before attacking Johnny's sister and her boyfriend,
Cassie and Johnny had a attacked Cassie's grandparents, who were not able to escape
the attack. Wendy and Randall Bjorg were dead, and they hadn't just been
murdered. Their deaths were unspeakably brutal. Wendy and Randall had been horrifically beaten
and butchered to death. On April ninth, twenty seventeen, seventeen year old
Cassie Bjorg was arrested with her boyfriend, nineteen year old Johnny Ryder, for
brutally attacking Johnny's older sister and her boyfriend, though Georgia investigators suspected that Cassie
and Johnny had more than just two victims. On the day before they were
arrested, Gwinnett County Police conducted a welfare check on the home of Cassie's grandparents,
Wendy and Randall Bjorg. When police got no response, they forced their
way inside and discovered the bloody aftermath of a very violent and brutal double murder.
Wendy and Randall were dead. When Cassie was questioned about her grandparents' deaths,
she explained how her plot to kill them developed, and before he did
that, did you and Johnny meet up somewhere in a park or something?
Then talk about park? He first asked me, are you afraid to die?
And I said no. He was just talking about how we could like
run away together, you know, I kind of like dream and he asked
me, he was like, we could kill your grandparents. And I kind
of like hesitated for a minute, and I was like why, and he
was just like, I don't know. I mean, because he knows probably
everything that I've been through with all of my family. When you guys met
at the park, did he did he ever go over the actual plan on
how you guys would do it or anything like that or what was that?
Uh? Well, I mean we were just trying to figure out how to
get money. Cassie and Johnny decided that they were going to rob and murder
Cassie's grandparents on a night in early April. They arrived at their home to
do exactly that. So we decided to go around like midnight or one thirty,
because my grandma normally went to sleep around like eleven thirty twelve. We
decided, like you know, we made park down the road. Cassie and
Johnny snuck through Wendy and Randall's backyard and entered the home through a back door.
Since Cassie lived there, she had a key, so getting inside was
not a problems. We went upstairs. We needed a little We didn't immediately
go upstairs like. We went to the stairs and we were like just listening,
just hearing what was going on. We got everything was good, and
then we went upstairs and did you guys have anything in your hands or he
just had car tools. It was a tire iron. He brought a black
book bag that dug tape in it with a tire iron and duct tape at
the ready. Cassie and Johnny reached the grandparents' bedrooms. At this stage in
their life and marriage, the couple did not sleep in the same room,
so Cassie and Johnny split up. He goes into my Grandpa's room and then
I go into my grandma's room. Do you hear kind of what's going on
over there? And does that kind of cute you off to with your grandmother
there? Yeah, he's he started going at it, and then you know,
I could hear my grandpa just yelling, you know, them fighting,
and then I started eating the rush and then you know, like that's when
I started hitting my grandma in the head. After hearing their grandfather's screams,
Cassie approached her sleeping grandmother and began beating her over the head with a tire
iron. I like hit her really hard on the back of the head,
and then she started like screaming and stuff and that the head. Yeah,
that's where I magally hit her in the head. So I started hitting my
grand law and I already had duct tape, and then you know, Johnny's
doing his thing, and you know, I stopped hearing Johnny doing whatever,
and so he comes in the room listening and my grandma, and you know,
he helps me like tie up my grandma with the duve tape. How
you tie how did you do? That's just her hands or your hands?
I got her whole head and then I got her ankles and then I dragged
her into my grandpa's room, and the Johnny asked me to go get some
knives. So I got some knives from downstairs in the kitchen and I got
three big butcher knives. And then that's when you started like stabbing my grandpa.
And then when when Johnny's uh, stabbing your grandfather, is it mainly
in the torso or yeah, he just I don't know why he did that,
but he just kept going how many times? More than two? More
five? More than five? More than five? Well wrapped in duct tape
after being viciously beaten, Wendy Bjorg watched in horror as the man who had
just been her husband for over forty years was brutally stabbed and sliced to death.
Yeah. I mean, like she kept saying, like, I'll give
you money, I'll give you my keys, you know, I'll give you
anything you want. You know, I went in the closet because that's where
they kept the safe, So you know, I go in there. You
know, I'm checking out all the stuff, and I grabbed the book bag
and I just start stuffed in the book bag with everything, you know,
Like there was envelopes just filled with money. There was probably about like one
thousand dollars that we found in that safe. So after that, he slips
my grandpa's throat and then we dragged my grandma into the bathroom. After the
safe was looted, Wendy was brought into her bathroom, where her life also
came to a horrific and brutal end. I actually hit her in the back
of the head with the tire right well not the back of the head,
but like right where your spine is, because he was telling me, he
was like, if you hit right there, like just one like a hit,
just knock the person out and then they'll be dead. And she was
like pretending to be dead for a while. Like I would, you know,
check up on her, and I would see that she was still breathing,
and I'll be like, Johnny, she's still alive. What the heck?
And then like Johnny finally like like made the like last blow and then
yeah, and then Johnny slit her throat too, and she It was was
kind of creepy because she was like scared to die, like she she shittered
herself. It was kind of cross. All the looting and murder that Johnny
and Cassie had done left them kind of hungry, So when they were done,
they decided to grab a bite to eat. When you guys love more,
you guys go to We went over to like Kroger or public to girl
get something to eat, and then we went back to the house. So
it just kind of like chilled there. Did you guys kind of just stay
in the house then, or yeah, it was kind of both and you're
kind of like in and out of the house for a couple of days.
It was just me and him. Did you guys ever chill with anyone during
that week at all? Or yeah, yeah, child, we show up
with some of his friends. When my friends and you know, we would
just go meet up with them. We would never have anyone come over to
the house. We were just like, that's that's a no. That's a
big no no. Johnny and Cassie stayed in Wendy's and Randall's home for days
after the murders. They slept downstairs while the corpses of their victims remained upstairs.
They didn't even have the common decency to clean up after themselves. Gussie
claimed that she and Johnny were the only two people in the house during that
time, but that was a lie. Yes, I was inside the house
while they were dead. I didn't know that they were done. That's the
main things. I don't know when exactly it was, but they had been
inside the house for a while because you could smell it once you walked inside
the house, both walking, and it smells like shit. Now you're saying
it smells like shit? What is it? I didn't think anything of it,
because I did, and Johnny said that it was just because he hadn't
flush the toilet. I didn't really think much of us because the entire house
was trash, like. They had so much Chinese food on the floor that
the black cat was eating and all this stuff. The cops knew Cassie lied
to them because one of Cassie's friends recorded a short video with their cell phone
while they were inside the house. After the video was revealed to Cassie,
she had no choice but to admit to inviting friends over. Now. I
have trouble inviting friends over, even really close friends, if the guest room
hasn't been cleaned up in a while. So to have corpses upstairs and invite
people over that goes beyond my level of understanding. For a day, I'm
just asking for in. Seven days after you guys killed your grandparents, Sunshine
and Alex were at your house. Yes, what did you guys do?
You may have noticed that throughout her confession, Cassie showed no emotion. She
was cold and didn't shed one tear for her grandparents, not one. Yet,
when she was called out for her lying, something bizarre happened. Cassie
weirdly showed emotion. You literally have showed no emotion towards your grandparents. And
I don't have a problem, like I don't know the life that you were
having, But why are you showing emotion with when I brought up Sunshine?
What the hell is this chick? You know what I'm saying. She's just
a close friend. It only seems that you're sorry you got caught that you
head people over after. You don't seem to be sorry that you killed your
grandparents. I am. I'm just letting you know. I'm just letting you
know. A few days after Wendy and Randall were dead, Johnny and Cassie
decided that they were going to commit more murder. They hadn't had enough.
They wanted some more, so this time they set their sights on members of
Johnny's family, because how close you commit murder to your own home is a
direct correlation of your level of stupidity. In fact, any kind of crime
looting for example, if you loot in your own neighborhood, you're a fucking
idiot. The plan was that we were both going to get both of our
families, but first we got my grandparents. And then's why we went over
to Johnny's house and we attacked his sister and her boyfriend because we were he
wanted to kill his family. Okay, so that's late. We stayed in
town for a couple of days because you know, we wanted to get some
money, wanted to get ready to leave, and then that plan just going
over to his house kind of just like it didn't work out at all.
It just went it went downhill from there. Johnny and Cassie went to Johnny's
mom's house. Once there, they trashed the place looking for money. Then
when his sister and her boyfriend arrived at the house, Cassie and Johnny attacked
them with bear spray and baseball bats. We had a bear repellet that we
bought from Bass Pro Shop. What was that for? For the just to
like get them away or to like kind of like knock them out. That
stuff is strong, like yeah, this stuff, Oh my gosh, it
was so crazy, like it was just all rush, like it was just
the spray was going everywhere, and it was like like your eyes were burning,
like your body was burning. It was so painful. And who did
you guys spray? Who got sprayed with that? H? When did Johnny's
sister and her boyfriend? Johnny and Cassie didn't anticipate that when you use bear
repellent in a confined space like a house, everyone in the space is going
to feel the effects. You want to know why they didn't assume that.
That's because they were fucking stupid. Criminals are usually fucking stupid. In short,
their plan to commit another double murder didn't really go as planned. Johnny's
sister and her boyfriend were able to fight off the attack, and when Johnny's
mom came home, Cassie and Johnny fled. They stole his sister's car and
drove away in a panic. The next day, the SWAT team arrested them,
but not before both Johnny and Cassie tried and failed to commit suicide by
slitting their wrists. Of course, this is something they would also fail at.
And as for the incident that happened with Johnny's place, you're charged with
two content assault and obviously with your grandparents, now you're being in charge of
malus murder for your grandmother and then malos murder for your grandfather. After Cassie
confessed, there wasn't much left to do but Charter and Johnny with a slew
of crimes. Of course, there were some non legal and important questions worth
asking, like I don't know why? Why? Why? Why would you
do this? Why? How could these teenage morons be so vicious and cold
blooded towards their own families, their own flesh and blood, the people that
gave them life. What could have possibly happened in their lives to lead them
down to this very, very low point. As far as Johnny is concerned,
we really don't have a lot of answers. He may just be a
moron and that's it. There's lots of those in this country. Unfortunately,
it seems that nobody who knew Johnny even saw this coming. But people close
to a killer rarely admit that they do, because then a bunch of other
questions need to be asked and hey, you know who wants that kind of
responsibility. Well, I don't know what he was going through Johnny's mind,
because, like I'm at him a couple of times, and like a lot
of people didn't know him, and he didn't see him like the type to
like killing you, and he just wanted to keep buying like he was really
nice. The investigators, trying to make sense of things, did sit down
and speak with Johnny, though their conversation was brief and didn't dive too deeply
into his thought process about killing people. Where'd you go to high school?
Did you graduate from there? Doing college? Then? I didn't do the
act of college. How do you mean Cassie, how does she come in
this? Did she go to schooler? Or did you just a girl?
What do you mean trippy? Just a lot of spirit or spirits? You
know that Johnny seemed like a normal teenager. He had some misdemeanor charges for
theft, but otherwise he came off like a typical kid. After a few
minutes of being questioned by detectives, Johnny asked for a lawyer, which shut
down his interview. Are you okay talk with us right now? Without a
number. I was just mm hm, I don't really feel comfortable. From
Cassie's perspective, it seemed like Johnny was in a similar but as her.
According to Cassie, Johnny felt that he was being disrespected by his mom.
The way I saw their relationship was his mom, you know, would get
out of him a lot, saying, you know, like you're not doing
anything with your life and blah blah blah. When he had, like he
just got out of jail, he had two jobs, he was back in
school. He you know, he was, you know, getting and shit
together, and then you know, his mom kept saying, you know,
like you're just worthless, you know, you're not doing anything. On top
of the issues that Johnny was having with his mother, he may have also
been dealing with some serious mental issues, though the things that indicated mental illness
might have been an act. At one point, Johnny left his mom a
very haunting voicemail, and it's hard to tell if this message is genuine or
if it's just theatrics. It's true, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm
sorry to speak. As far as Cassie is concerned, she too had issues
with the adults in her life. Specifically her grandparents, though it seems like
she had no legitimate reason to dislike them. After Wendy and Randall borg gained
custody of Cassie, all they did was show her the kind of love and
care that any teenager would be lucky to have. They got custody of her,
and then right after that happened their surprise relaters in Disney World, and
then last last summer they went. Yeah, they went to China for her
for judo stuff. Wendy and Randall took Cassie on special vacations. They enrolled
her in school and encouraged her interests. Cassie liked martial arts, so her
grandparents paid for her to have martial arts classes. Cassie even attended a final
judo class a day or so after she killed her grandparents. By all accounts,
is Cassie's caretakers, Wendy and Randall went above and beyond just looking and
talking to their grandparents, friends and all that. It seemed like they really
cared about her and they took such a care like she had it, like
she's honestly, like I don't know why she was after I mean, like
I did love Cassie this person like she honestly was like a really selfish person
hearing about herself, did all of a sudden just snap or like That's what
I'm kind of looking for is were what was a snapping point? Because I've
actually talked to some people back in the day who says she was a sweet
girl and no problems. She had a really fun side, but when she
didn't get her way. The anger issues were that Cassie had anger issues.
That much is clear. She violently attacked her grandparents on multiple occasions. But
Cassie was also self centered and narcissistic. She wanted things to be her way
and didn't care who she had to hurt to get what she wanted. But
I think that it was building up. I don't think it was anything where
she snapped, because when I talked to her on the walk that her and
I wa on, I'm like, so, what's your deal? I mean,
you know that your grandparents love you, like they're doing everything they can
to get customs. What's the world called? She just said that she was
tired of being her parents instead of her grandparents. She said, I'm tired
of them always told me what to do. She said, before you know
it was always fun and she's like, now they're always up my ass and
I'm like, when you realize, like you just do what they're asking me
to do. She didn't think, she said, I cross you. I
said, you don't give a fuck, meaning like what you and I were
talking about, what like narrow that down for me. She's like, I
don't give the fun of that. And she's like, I just want to
slow do what I want to do and I don't want anybody up my ass
about it. I'm like, so do a job and move out. Allegedly,
Cassie was sexually abused by her stepfather, which is why she was living
with their grandparents in the first place. If these sexual abuse allegations are true,
that's certainly a terrible trauma that Cassie had to endure. It shouldn't be
ignored, and it may have been what tipped the scale in her life.
However, many teenagers have unfortunately been victimized in this sort of way, and
that experience does not drive them to commit murder, not excuse any further bad
actions by that person. You don't get a free pass just because you were
abused. It seems that fundamentally, Cassie was just a selfish and heartless brat
who couldn't see or didn't care to see that her grandparents only wanted to help
her. I mean, do you feel bad about what happened? Do you
think she deserves what happened or what? You know, how are you feeling
right now? I'm not in your shoes my grandparents? Yeah, I mean
I was pretty kissed at her for you know, the couple times that you
know, like she would call the cops on me for you know, no
reason. Sometimes you're like they kind of just like really messed up everything,
you know, like I had to be home at a certain time, and
I couldn't feel as much stuff as I, you know, used to do.
You know, they really made me angry with you. You know,
I used to just be able to do whatever. Just like a lot of
the stuff that she would say would be really offensive. I just wanted to
get away from all of that, you know, Like I was so tired
of dealing with my family. I don't know, I just saw, was
your mom ever part of the plan? Oh? Killing him? I wanted
to. Seventeen year old Cassie did not like having a curfew. She didn't
like to be told what to do. Nobody does. After all, she
was offended by the guidelines of her probation and the rules were grandparents set in
place the rules that were there for her own well being. So Cassie brutally
murdered her grandparents. That was her solution. She and her boyfriend used to
tire iron and kitchen knives to beat and butcher Wendy and Randall Bjorg to death.
Well, I mean, unfortunately, I believe you're kind of born with
it. I think she's a stray social past. So I just told her
there's nowhere when you don't have any remorse in that. And I, miss,
I think you're kind of born with that gene. Something makes it come
out in you and snap, and you know, Unfortunately, I think there's
like four percent of people in that country are social past. So after Cassie
and Johnny were arrested, the court proceedings played out as expected. Cassie and
Johnny had no legitimate defense for their actions, so the best they could hope
for was a deal from prosecutors, which they eventually got. Tonight, a
lot of you reacting pretty strongly on our Facebook page after two teenagers were sentenced
to life in prison with the chance of parole after pleading guilty to murdering two
grandparents. Cassee bi old Guy and Johnny Ryder won't be eligible for parole for
at least sixty years. The two of them will be almost eighty years old
by then. Johnny and Cassie will likely never see the outside of a prison
facility again. I guess you can call that justice, but it's certainly a
small consolation for the people who knew and loved Wendy and Randall. This couple
was sixty three years old when they were killed. Sixty three imagine living on
earth for sixty three years only to be killed by your own granddaughter. And
at that time, they were more than just Cassie's caretakers. They were genuinely
good people who had a lot of close friends. A quick read of the
countless heartfelt comments left on their online obituaries makes it pretty clear that Wendy and
Randall were kind, giving and willing to help just about anyone in need.
At the same time, anybody could bring her door, well, she didn't
open her door for anybody like she was just the sweetest lady. After Cassie
moved in with her grandparents and began assaulting them. Wendy Biorg quickly recognized the
risk she was taking, but that didn't stop her. Wendy's heart was too
big. Her hating you, and now she's sitting Randall like it's just getting
more and more aggressive. You're not going thron She's like you, she said,
as a friend, what the hell do you say? So she knew?
I think she just loved her during conditionally. She didn't want to feel
like she turned a rack on her like everybody off that. Hey, I
believe I love someone too much too. Cassie's grandparents loved her, and that
love was unconditional. In fact, if we were somehow able to communicate with
the dead despite what Cassie did to them, Wendy and Randall would probably tell
us that they still only want the best for their granddaughter. Sadly, Cassie's
sociopathic nature will never allow her to care or even understand what any of that
means. Her little brain is just incapable. Like the detective said, this
is a case where two very kind people loved someone too much. Wendy and
Randall loved a monster. Tragically that monster killed them. Well that's gonna do
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