Fright Night (1985) vs. The Lost Boys (1987): Part 2

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<v Speaker 5>Podcast Awesome de We were talking before about the special effects,
<v Speaker 5>and obviously with Friday Night you have a whole lot
<v Speaker 5>more special effects going on, and so I talked about
<v Speaker 5>Steve Johnson, the guy who said there was lots of
<v Speaker 5>cocaine there, and the guy who did the pencil through
<v Speaker 5>the hand and was frustrated at the cut that came about.
<v Speaker 1>But another I mean, he just had a ton of
<v Speaker 1>good stories, some of which are absolutely inappropriate to tell
<v Speaker 1>on a family friendly episode. But one of the stories
<v Speaker 1>is that you know, they used acid to burn up
<v Speaker 1>the bat creature that they had the end that was
<v Speaker 1>supposed to be Jerry burning up in the skeleton. Well,
<v Speaker 1>part of that piece came from Ghostbusters that they had
<v Speaker 1>done before. It was just a piece that they thought
<v Speaker 1>was too scary for the librarian at the very intro scene.
<v Speaker 1>They thought it was too scary, so they didn't use it.
<v Speaker 1>So when they're getting to the end of Fright Night
<v Speaker 1>and they're looking for more stuff to do and they're
<v Speaker 1>out of money, they're like, well, let's just go dig
<v Speaker 1>into our old Ghostbusters stuff and see if we can
<v Speaker 1>find it, and so they came up with that bat skeleton,
<v Speaker 1>and so they melt the skeleton in multiple ways, but
<v Speaker 1>one of those ways is with acid. And so Steve Johnson,
<v Speaker 1>you know, once the acid has done its thing and
<v Speaker 1>everything's melted, he goes over and pours this base, you know,
<v Speaker 1>to counteract the acid. He pours this basic solution all
<v Speaker 1>over this thing. And then he drives home that evening
<v Speaker 1>and he's like, my feet can kind of feel tingly.
<v Speaker 1>I guess they's ending up a bunch, you know, all
<v Speaker 1>day along the day, And when he gets home, he
<v Speaker 1>realizes that the rubber on the bottom of his sneakers
<v Speaker 1>has completely melted to like his feet are starting to burn.
<v Speaker 1>It's burned through his socks. Yeah, He's like, I couldn't
<v Speaker 1>walk around for a few weeks after that.
<v Speaker 2>That's awesome, you know.
<v Speaker 4>One of the things that you know, as we're talking
<v Speaker 4>about special effects, I did want to mention this.
<v Speaker 2>We didn't really.
<v Speaker 4>Talk about, I mean, some details on these movies. So
<v Speaker 4>Friday Night was released August second, nineteen eighty five, had
<v Speaker 4>a budget of nine million dollars. It took home twenty
<v Speaker 4>five million, so it was a kind of a surprise
<v Speaker 4>hit that fall season, but it is the first vampire
<v Speaker 4>movie to spend one million dollars on special effects, as
<v Speaker 4>kind of a trailblazer in that way.
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, wow, that's impressive. Okay. We talked about the
<v Speaker 1>head of special effects for Fright Night was a guy
<v Speaker 1>named Richard Edlund. They had a ton of guys working
<v Speaker 1>on this, and we talked about Steve Johnson, but there
<v Speaker 1>was another guy named Randy Cook, and he has a
<v Speaker 1>bit of an infamous story. They had kind of reached
<v Speaker 1>the end of their budget as far as things go
<v Speaker 1>for the special effects, and so at some point they're
<v Speaker 1>working through things and Tom Holland comes over to the
<v Speaker 1>Randy Cook and he's like, I need you to do
<v Speaker 1>me a favor. He's like okay, he goes, you've got
<v Speaker 1>any plastics left that you can use to make a
<v Speaker 1>mask for free? And Randy's and he's like, I mean,
<v Speaker 1>I gues. He's like, just please just do me the favor, man,
<v Speaker 1>Just do me the favor. I have to have the
<v Speaker 1>scary teeth for Amy and we don't have any money
<v Speaker 1>left for the budget, so can you just do me
<v Speaker 1>this favor. It's going to be a short shot. It's
<v Speaker 1>gonna be like three seconds. Yes, now I'm any big deal.
<v Speaker 1>Nobody's gonna know, right, And so he's like, all right,
<v Speaker 1>and he puts together this very crude I mean, he's
<v Speaker 1>just using scraps. Basically, it puts together this nasty looking
<v Speaker 1>shark mouth for Amy, and it's that it's that that's
<v Speaker 1>horrible shark mouth. And it didn't go for only three
<v Speaker 1>seconds in the movie. It was all over the movie, like,
<v Speaker 1>You've got this very dramatic scene where like your your
<v Speaker 1>perspective is looking at her and you know he's behind her,
<v Speaker 1>not realizing what her face looks like. Now, so you
<v Speaker 1>get this full on you're looking right at her in
<v Speaker 1>this horrible, frozen smile, and then she whips around and
<v Speaker 1>he didn't so William Raxdale hadn't seen it yet, and
<v Speaker 1>so Tom Holland was like, he told Amanda Beers, don't
<v Speaker 1>show it to him until we're filming. And so that
<v Speaker 1>reaction that he has whenever she whips around and has
<v Speaker 1>the shark teeth and is jumping at it is a
<v Speaker 1>very genuine reaction because it was like, holy crap, there
<v Speaker 1>it is. This is much bigger and scarier. And Randy
<v Speaker 1>Cook was like this thing looked like a big giant
<v Speaker 1>glob of crap. I mean, it's horrible. You know, if
<v Speaker 1>you zoom in you get the high def it looks
<v Speaker 1>really really bad. But not only do they use it
<v Speaker 1>multiple scenes and kind of through this whole chase scene
<v Speaker 1>in the movie, far more than three seconds. But then
<v Speaker 1>after they've finished the movie, the poster comes out and
<v Speaker 1>the poster is the face in the clouds. It's that face.
<v Speaker 1>And he's like, oh my gosh, I can't believe that
<v Speaker 1>I made this thing for free, and now it's everywhere.
<v Speaker 4>We talked about this, So, yeah, they had a million
<v Speaker 4>dollars for effects, and they got to the end of
<v Speaker 4>it and Steve Elland's like, do you remember that million
<v Speaker 4>dollars I had for effects? I have zero dollars and
<v Speaker 4>zero since left over.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but the poster, so I've seen this.
<v Speaker 4>It's a very well known poster. It was on the
<v Speaker 4>VHS tape and all that stuff.
<v Speaker 2>It had never occurred to me that that was Amy's face.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because it's kind of all you get is the face.
<v Speaker 1>You don't have the body, you don't have the hair,
<v Speaker 1>you just have that one face. But yeah, it's that
<v Speaker 1>poster though, I mean, I have to think that that
<v Speaker 1>poster got a whole lot of people going in because
<v Speaker 1>that is one of the best posters of eighties movies
<v Speaker 1>I've ever seen, and it's really fantastic. And so I
<v Speaker 1>went to go find out who the artist is. It's unknown.
<v Speaker 1>It's some guy who was working in the graphics department
<v Speaker 1>at some advertising agency through that thing together, and nobody
<v Speaker 1>knows who it was. Nobody's stepped up to take credit
<v Speaker 1>for it. It's just this unknown guy who has made
<v Speaker 1>this iconic bit of history. I mean, maybe more recognizable
<v Speaker 1>than a lot of the great classic works of art,
<v Speaker 1>and nobody knows who did it. It's pretty pretty impressive.
<v Speaker 1>And they used it. I mean they used it over
<v Speaker 1>again for Fright Night two, which is you know, did
<v Speaker 1>you see Fright Night two?
<v Speaker 4>I did see Frida Night too. It was half as
<v Speaker 4>good as Friday one, probably or less.
<v Speaker 1>I think I saw it as well, but I really
<v Speaker 1>honestly don't remember it. I feel like it was maybe
<v Speaker 1>more funny, like they were going more for the comedy
<v Speaker 1>thing on Fright Night two? Am I remembering that? Right?
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I guess.
<v Speaker 1>I mean.
<v Speaker 4>The interesting thing about Friday Night two is that Charlie turns.
<v Speaker 4>He is in the process of turning to a vampire.
<v Speaker 4>He's sort of you know what Amy was in the
<v Speaker 4>first one, and it's Jerry d Andrews's sister.
<v Speaker 2>Is the is the the bad girl?
<v Speaker 1>Oh right, right right? Yeah, see, yeah, I saw that
<v Speaker 1>she had she had watched the movie over and over
<v Speaker 1>to study his mannerism so that she could imitate him
<v Speaker 1>in that second one. So here's here's an interesting story
<v Speaker 1>about part two. So Tom Holland couldn't direct it. Like,
<v Speaker 1>by the time they got to that point, he had
<v Speaker 1>already started working on Child's Play with Chris Sarandon and
<v Speaker 1>so he was involved in that. So they brought this
<v Speaker 1>other director in. Now Tom Holland was still involved, obviously
<v Speaker 1>it's his baby, right, but he wasn't directing it. So
<v Speaker 1>they brought this other director named Tommy Lee Wallace in,
<v Speaker 1>and so they are. Roddy McDowell's in the movie. He's
<v Speaker 1>he's invested in it as well. And at some point
<v Speaker 1>they have to meet with the Live Entertainment chairman who
<v Speaker 1>is discussing the distribution of the movie. Right, the guy
<v Speaker 1>who's responsible for distribution and marketing, and his name is
<v Speaker 1>Jose Menendez and they go in to meet with him,
<v Speaker 1>and it was this horrible meeting, like he was furious
<v Speaker 1>at them for something. I don't know what it was,
<v Speaker 1>but it was just like this horrible, horrible thing. And
<v Speaker 1>so they're like, oh, crap, we've made the guy who's
<v Speaker 1>responsible for getting this movie out to everybody mad at us.
<v Speaker 1>He's gonna screw us. And so Tom Holland says to
<v Speaker 1>Roddy mcdell, Hey, we'll go back, you know, after this weekend.
<v Speaker 1>We'll go back. We'll talk to him again, we'll mend
<v Speaker 1>the bridges, you know, we'll kiss his butt or whatever,
<v Speaker 1>and it'll all be fine. But they couldn't do that
<v Speaker 1>because over the weekend, Jose Menindez was murdered by his sons,
<v Speaker 1>the Menindez brothers.
<v Speaker 4>Oh my gosh, Oh my gosh, are you serious.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, isn't that crazy?
<v Speaker 2>And so you know Ninda's brothers.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the Menindez brothers killed the guy who was responsible
<v Speaker 1>for marketing. Yeah, fright night too. And when when When
<v Speaker 1>Roddy mcdell found out, he quickly called Tommy Wallace and said, well,
<v Speaker 1>I didn't do it, did you do it? Oh? It's
<v Speaker 1>it's terrible but because of that, I think they only
<v Speaker 1>released it in like one theater in LA and one
<v Speaker 1>in New York, and it was pretty much straight to video.
<v Speaker 1>I don't think. I don't think many people saw it
<v Speaker 1>in the theater.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, it's I watched it last year and it
<v Speaker 4>I had to get it through Netflix, like the hard
<v Speaker 4>DVD copy.
<v Speaker 2>And it was tough to get a hold of.
<v Speaker 4>So so they did the reboot with Colin Farrell. I
<v Speaker 4>saw that in the movie theater. They did not capture
<v Speaker 4>Latin in a bottle second time.
<v Speaker 2>He's cool.
<v Speaker 4>I mean, you know, Colin Ferrell as a vampire is
<v Speaker 4>pretty cool. But it just didn't quite work for me.
<v Speaker 4>I definitely think the original is way better, way better.
<v Speaker 4>I have seen two Lost Boys sequels.
<v Speaker 1>N Uh, yes, you watched those.
<v Speaker 2>I watched them.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, Wow, do you wish you had that time back?
<v Speaker 2>So here's the deal. Here's the deal. Yeah, they hook
<v Speaker 2>you with. Corey Feldman and Corey Haym were in one.
<v Speaker 1>Uh huh.
<v Speaker 4>And then Keifer Setlin's brother is in it, and it's
<v Speaker 4>a look alike to David Same.
<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, he looks very I mean it's keep his
<v Speaker 2>Otherlan's brother.
<v Speaker 4>I mean it looks just like David, but there's a
<v Speaker 4>lot more skin in this one and sex scenes and
<v Speaker 4>that type of thing. But the hook is that one
<v Speaker 4>of the main characters from the original Lost Boys becomes
<v Speaker 4>a vampire at the very end of the movies.
<v Speaker 2>So I don't want to give any spoilers away, but
<v Speaker 2>I hung around to see that.
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, god, this is don't rush off to see
<v Speaker 1>those sequels to the.
<v Speaker 2>Lost Boy exactly exactly.
<v Speaker 4>You know what I want to talk about real quick
<v Speaker 4>though before it's sort of in the realm of special effects. Okay,
<v Speaker 4>Switching back to fright night, Amy's transformation from teenage girl
<v Speaker 4>when Jerry Danders gets her on the dance floor, okay,
<v Speaker 4>and she starts to transform basically from a girl to
<v Speaker 4>a woman on the dance floor, right, change her makeup
<v Speaker 4>and hair mid dance.
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you've noticed that or not, but well,
<v Speaker 1>I totally totally. I was like, man, she just like
<v Speaker 1>she went down and came back up, and it was
<v Speaker 1>like she ran her fingers through her hair and suddenly
<v Speaker 1>it was styled completely differently, and she looks like the
<v Speaker 1>queen of the disco. All.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, that's right.
<v Speaker 4>So he takes her back sort of does his vampire
<v Speaker 4>seduction thing bites her and as she begins to transform,
<v Speaker 4>there's some interesting things that happen. Number One, all of
<v Speaker 4>a sudden, she's wearing this white Marilyn Monroe dress. Right,
<v Speaker 4>her hair grows and turns blonde.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, kind of a red. Yeah, kind of a rusty
<v Speaker 1>red kind of look. It was horrible.
<v Speaker 2>It's not her original color.
<v Speaker 1>No, and it looks terrible. If they had done something
<v Speaker 1>actually exotic and sexy, that might have been pretty cool.
<v Speaker 1>But that was the only person that they did worse
<v Speaker 1>hair for was Roddy McDowell as an old person. That
<v Speaker 1>was the worst hair. Loved the whole movie for sure,
<v Speaker 1>looked worse than stage makeup. It was terrible, but go ahead, okay.
<v Speaker 4>But the other thing that they did for the movie
<v Speaker 4>is they gave her prosthetic breasts.
<v Speaker 2>Okay.
<v Speaker 4>So part of the seduction process is we're changing this
<v Speaker 4>high school girl into the Marilyn Monroe vamped up promo
<v Speaker 4>queen stripper version of her herself in the original story.
<v Speaker 4>In the novelization, so Jerry Dandrews is supposed to be
<v Speaker 4>four hundred years old or so, but from the novelization,
<v Speaker 4>Amy's transformation to a vampire gives her vampire breasts, right,
<v Speaker 4>so she's extra busty when she is saved by them
<v Speaker 4>killing off Jerry Dandridge, she gets to keep those.
<v Speaker 1>So it's kind of it's kind of like young Frankenstein.
<v Speaker 1>It's true something I don't understand. The monster got your plain,
<v Speaker 1>but what did you get? Yeah? So yeah, as I
<v Speaker 1>understand it, Like when she was doing an auction and
<v Speaker 1>like signing graphs, she was wearing them and let people
<v Speaker 1>come up and feel them. While she was.
<v Speaker 2>Wearing them, they were on the table.
<v Speaker 1>She said, oh, she wasn't wearing them. Yeah, it makes
<v Speaker 1>it less of a good story. Sorry about that. They
<v Speaker 1>just be sitting there on the table. You want to
<v Speaker 1>feel my breast? No, not that. We haven't talked about
<v Speaker 1>special effects.
<v Speaker 2>For Oh Lost Boys.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they hired a guy originally they wouldn't name his name,
<v Speaker 4>but he came in and did prosthetics because they wanted
<v Speaker 4>the vampires to look ghoulish when they.
<v Speaker 2>Transformed to vampires.
<v Speaker 4>Right, And the first guy who came in he did
<v Speaker 4>a job and and and he made him too scary
<v Speaker 4>and they didn't they didn't really like that.
<v Speaker 2>Joe Schumacher's like, I've.
<v Speaker 4>Hired all these young, sexy hip actors and we're going
<v Speaker 4>to make them look horrible. I didn't like it, so
<v Speaker 4>they fired that guy and they brought in a guy
<v Speaker 4>named Greg Cannon. And that was his instruction. He said, listen,
<v Speaker 4>I brought in these great look actors. I want them
<v Speaker 4>to look like vampires. So they need to be scary,
<v Speaker 4>but they need to be.
<v Speaker 2>Good looking vampires.
<v Speaker 1>Uh huh.
<v Speaker 4>And so he minimized the prosthetics, gave them those awesome
<v Speaker 4>contacts we talked about last week, right, and then the
<v Speaker 4>fangs that were right next to their incisors just did
<v Speaker 4>a great job. They're still creepy, scary, but they're also.
<v Speaker 1>They still look like them.
<v Speaker 2>They still look like them, that's right.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's not Jerry Dandridge looking like Sloth from Goonies aby. Yeah. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>So okay, are you ready? Are you ready for me
<v Speaker 1>to blow your mind? Yes? On Greg Candem. Yeah. So
<v Speaker 1>he has He obviously has a ton a ton of
<v Speaker 1>special effects credits, like the Mask with Jim Carrey, he
<v Speaker 1>did Abraham Lincoln Vampire Hunter, he did Watchmen. He's done
<v Speaker 1>a ton a ton of stuff. But he's only got
<v Speaker 1>three acting credits, and of those three, one of them
<v Speaker 1>is a zombie on the thriller video.
<v Speaker 2>That is cool man. Hey, one of the things I
<v Speaker 2>want to talk about one of the mysteries of frid Night.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, one of the big question marks about Friday Night
<v Speaker 4>is Billy Cole.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>He is the guy who lives with Jerry Dandridge and
<v Speaker 2>is his protector.
<v Speaker 1>Right kind of the ren Field.
<v Speaker 2>So the big question is what is Billy Cole?
<v Speaker 1>Right, He's not a vampire, No, walks around to day
<v Speaker 1>out in the sun, right.
<v Speaker 4>R he gets shot in the forehead and doesn't die right,
<v Speaker 4>and when they finally stab him with a steak, he
<v Speaker 4>turns to slime and dust and yeah, so the big
<v Speaker 4>question is what is he?
<v Speaker 2>What do you think? Is got any ideas well?
<v Speaker 1>I mean I've read a couple of theories. One is
<v Speaker 1>that he's like this gollum that Jerry created out of
<v Speaker 1>sand kind of deal. Is one idea. And then the
<v Speaker 1>other is that he is a like a half vampire,
<v Speaker 1>like somebody who has been bitten but hasn't hasn't bitten
<v Speaker 1>somebody else himself, and so he's not fully a vampire
<v Speaker 1>like like Amy was, where he can still he could
<v Speaker 1>still go back. You know.
<v Speaker 4>I I saw Tom Holland talk about this and they're like, Okay, Tom,
<v Speaker 4>what is Billy Cole?
<v Speaker 2>And He's like, I don't know, not exactly sure.
<v Speaker 1>God, that's weird. What the hell is goofy for me?
<v Speaker 1>You know? And there's an interesting you know, there's an
<v Speaker 1>interesting perspective to the relationship that he and Jerry have.
<v Speaker 1>You know that there's there are definitely some homoerotic little
<v Speaker 1>shots that that that they do. But from what I heard,
<v Speaker 1>neither one of the actors had any idea about it. It
<v Speaker 1>was all something that Tom Holland just kind of structured
<v Speaker 1>from the way that he shot the scenes and the
<v Speaker 1>way that he wrote it without being with being avert
<v Speaker 1>about it.
<v Speaker 2>I guess so, right, you know, I've heard that mentioned
<v Speaker 2>on both of these movies.
<v Speaker 1>Right, Yeah, I can tell you that that Jason Patrick
<v Speaker 1>and Keifer Sutherland both were like, we weren't ever told that.
<v Speaker 1>You know, that's not something that we were playing, and
<v Speaker 1>it's certainly not something that we were understood to be
<v Speaker 1>the case. Unlike George Clooney, who he said the Joel
<v Speaker 1>Schumaker for Lot I told him, yeah, Batman and Robin
<v Speaker 1>aren't gay.
<v Speaker 2>We don't talk about Batman and Robin.
<v Speaker 1>All right. You don't like the nipples, I don't like
<v Speaker 1>the bat nipples, Yeah, the bat nipples and the codpiece.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, okay. Another little tidbit from Fright Night. The song
<v Speaker 4>that Jerry is whistling as he sneaks into Charlie's bedroom
<v Speaker 4>is Strangers in the Night by Frank Sinatra. According to
<v Speaker 4>Christen Randon, he wanted Jerry to whistle whistle why you
<v Speaker 4>work from snow White, right, but couldn't get permission from
<v Speaker 4>Disney for that one.
<v Speaker 1>I wonder why. I wonder why Disney wouldn't.
<v Speaker 2>Go for that.
<v Speaker 4>Here's a tidbit I found out from Osy so I
<v Speaker 4>thought was pretty cool. The comic book store in the movie.
<v Speaker 4>It's called Atlantis Fantasy World. It's featured in the movie.
<v Speaker 4>It's owned by this guy named Joe Ferrara, who still
<v Speaker 4>carries the original number one issue of Vampires everywhere that
<v Speaker 4>Sam Reids in the film. The comic was created just
<v Speaker 4>for the movie, and if you go to this comic
<v Speaker 4>book store, you can actually have your picture taken with
<v Speaker 4>that comic. I wonder if you can hand it back
<v Speaker 4>to the guy and say I don't like horror comics.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I got one for you on Fright Night. All right, Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>we've talked about the reboots and we talked about the sequels.
<v Speaker 1>But five years ago when they asked Tom Holland if
<v Speaker 1>he would ever like to do a sequel of any
<v Speaker 1>of his movies, like, you know, forget the the reboots
<v Speaker 1>that exist, any movie you could do, he said, the one,
<v Speaker 1>the one that he would like to do is a
<v Speaker 1>follow up of Fright Night where he brings back the
<v Speaker 1>original cast and the plot is single father Charlie Brewster
<v Speaker 1>inherits his mother's home and soon after moving in, his
<v Speaker 1>two teenage children become convinced that there's something evil in
<v Speaker 1>the house next door, namely Evil Ed, who is squatting
<v Speaker 1>in the abandoned mansion attempting to resurrect Jerry Dandridge.
<v Speaker 2>Dude, I could get on board with that.
<v Speaker 1>I'm all for it. That sounds like a great movie.
<v Speaker 1>And I have to think that these actors would be like, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>let's do that. That sound I mean, what are they
<v Speaker 1>guy going on? Right? Okay, it hasn't been somebody in
<v Speaker 1>a long time. I know.
<v Speaker 2>Herman's head was a long time ago. So but I'll
<v Speaker 2>tell you what.
<v Speaker 4>One of the things that people mentioned from Friday Night
<v Speaker 4>when Ed dies Evil Ed dies, he transforms back from
<v Speaker 4>that wolf, gets stabbed, falls over the edge, and dies,
<v Speaker 4>transforms back to the boy. Remember the cross evaporates from
<v Speaker 4>his forehead. And then what happens. Peter Vincent pulls this
<v Speaker 4>steak out right, and a lot of people thought.
<v Speaker 2>What are you doing, dude?
<v Speaker 4>You don't pull the steak out? And so that did
<v Speaker 4>leave it open for a sequel.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I will say this, The one thing that I
<v Speaker 1>didn't notice that was because it was always around in
<v Speaker 1>the eighties. But I'm watching with my seventeen year old
<v Speaker 1>and she goes, why did they show every shot three
<v Speaker 1>times from three different directions? And I was like, holy cow.
<v Speaker 1>They argue, like Jerry bust through the window, It's like
<v Speaker 1>from like three different angles, right, Like, I guess that's
<v Speaker 1>just something they did. I didn't even I just just
<v Speaker 1>I've just noticed it, and so I told you about it.
<v Speaker 1>And then literally two days later, I'm watching the Simpsons
<v Speaker 1>Halloween special and it's the one where Bart Simpson becomes
<v Speaker 1>a vampire and is right outside of Lisa's window and
<v Speaker 1>he's coming after her, and he busts through the window,
<v Speaker 1>and sure enough they do a shot from three different directions.
<v Speaker 1>I was just like Darren Doyle, we here we go.
<v Speaker 1>We know how to get on these references. They just
<v Speaker 1>did a throwback to Fright Night and the three break scene.
<v Speaker 4>See, it's because they spend so much money on those
<v Speaker 4>practical effects that they want to get.
<v Speaker 2>Their money's worth. Right, that's really cool.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So just real quick, I just feel like we
<v Speaker 1>should touch on it. Okay, So the poster for Fright
<v Speaker 1>Night is iconic because it's just a beautifully done engaging
<v Speaker 1>The face is amazing, it's over the suburbian house. It's
<v Speaker 1>just perfect. And the Lost Boys picture is the poster
<v Speaker 1>is also perfect, but in a completely different way. It is.
<v Speaker 1>I mean it is them in black and white with
<v Speaker 1>this stark red backdrop to where they are and just
<v Speaker 1>very simple. The Lost Boys, that's it. It's so so
<v Speaker 1>super simple. But you know it is about vampires. But
<v Speaker 1>you're sitting there staring at these rockstar are looking young folks. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>totally grabs your attention to great posters. Okay, So, Jason,
<v Speaker 1>have you heard the story on the ending of Fright
<v Speaker 1>night I have.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, there was originally supposed to be a very different ending,
<v Speaker 4>and I thought this was super interesting.
<v Speaker 2>At the time.
<v Speaker 4>In the eighties, monster movies are supposed to be the
<v Speaker 4>monster's supposed to be vanquished and the good guys are
<v Speaker 4>supposed to get married and live happily hour after whatever.
<v Speaker 4>But in the original script, it was supposed to be
<v Speaker 4>radically different. Okay, Charlie and Amy are in their bed
<v Speaker 4>making out watching Fright Night like usual, right, like they
<v Speaker 4>were at the end of the movie, and there's Peter
<v Speaker 4>Vincent and he comes on and he's introducing a movie
<v Speaker 4>and it's talking about this movie with vampires, and he says,
<v Speaker 4>you know what vampires look like, don't you They look
<v Speaker 4>like this. Peter Vincent vams out right yeah, and Charlie
<v Speaker 4>and Amy.
<v Speaker 1>He got bitten by the bat, right, I mean he
<v Speaker 1>got bitten by the bat.
<v Speaker 2>He got bit on the arm by the Jerry Dandrews bat.
<v Speaker 4>And I remember as a kid watching this going, oh no,
<v Speaker 4>he got bit by the bad Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>I thought that guy's gonna have to die. That's a shame.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And he transforms into a vampire on screen, leans
<v Speaker 4>forward and says hello, Charlie and that's where they cut
<v Speaker 4>to the end credits and it rolls.
<v Speaker 1>Right, and then one of the producers sees the movie
<v Speaker 1>and he calls Tom Holland and he said, what the
<v Speaker 1>heck do you think you're doing? Yeah, you cannot let
<v Speaker 1>this guy be you somebody that the audience falls in
<v Speaker 1>love with for two hours and then turned him into
<v Speaker 1>a vampire at the end. You can't do it, change it. Yep.
<v Speaker 4>It's kind of a brave twist there. You know, who
<v Speaker 4>is considered for the role of David.
<v Speaker 2>No Jim Carrey.
<v Speaker 1>That'd been weird, especially since he had just done Once Bitten. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>Once Bitten, Yeah, Yeah, that would have been very strange.
<v Speaker 4>Also, I want to talk about this real quick. In
<v Speaker 4>the movie Lethal, Weap and Murta and Riggs are walking
<v Speaker 4>down the street discussing how Murta ohs Huntsecker right, and
<v Speaker 4>in the background you see a movie theater that says
<v Speaker 4>lost Boys this year's hit both Richard Donner.
<v Speaker 1>Ah, of course, yes, okay, that makes sense. I was like, man,
<v Speaker 1>how are we going to get a connection out of this?
<v Speaker 1>All right? What if Donner was upset that he didn't
<v Speaker 1>end up directing that thing?
<v Speaker 4>You know, I heard I saw him comments on that.
<v Speaker 4>He said he was so glad that Schumacher took over.
<v Speaker 4>He said I could not do it as good as
<v Speaker 4>he did it.
<v Speaker 2>I thought that was a real strong quote.
<v Speaker 1>That's a good compliment too, That's awesome.
<v Speaker 4>Okay, do we want to talk about some of the
<v Speaker 4>basic vampire tropes that we see in these movies?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, sure, let's go.
<v Speaker 2>I thought this was kind of cool.
<v Speaker 4>So in these movies, we have fangs flying, yes, no
<v Speaker 4>reflection okay, steaks through the heart, yes, coffins yes, okay,
<v Speaker 4>even though that came is basically one big coffin, which
<v Speaker 4>we right, right.
<v Speaker 2>It's the batcave. You have thorn, the hounds of hell.
<v Speaker 1>Uh huh.
<v Speaker 2>You have holy water. Yeah, you have garlic, which he
<v Speaker 2>mentions garlic don't work on us boys, right.
<v Speaker 4>You have half vampires and head vampires. You have long fingernails,
<v Speaker 4>bad breath, and extreme strength.
<v Speaker 1>Right.
<v Speaker 2>But the one thing I want.
<v Speaker 4>To talk about with you that we kind of need
<v Speaker 4>to unpack is the home invitation.
<v Speaker 1>The vampire cannot enter your house without being invited by
<v Speaker 1>the rightful owner first. Right.
<v Speaker 2>It happens in both of these movies, and they discuss it,
<v Speaker 2>and yet they kind of break their own rules a
<v Speaker 2>little bit.
<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean, it's to me it appears to be
<v Speaker 1>one rule in one movie and a slightly varied rule
<v Speaker 1>in the other movie.
<v Speaker 2>Don't ever invite a vampire into your house, your silly boy.
<v Speaker 1>It renders you powerless. So a lot of I mean
<v Speaker 1>a lot of what you talked about there comes from
<v Speaker 1>the original vampire ideas, comes from Dracula, the coffin, the teeth,
<v Speaker 1>being able to change into various animals, that kind of thing.
<v Speaker 1>That's all original vampire stuff. But then there's so many
<v Speaker 1>movies that came out that started adding that extra stuff in,
<v Speaker 1>and a lot of that, especially like the inviting the
<v Speaker 1>vampire in that is something that was just, i mean
<v Speaker 1>basically came from TV. Right It came from the movies,
<v Speaker 1>came from TV. And so what happens in Fright Night
<v Speaker 1>is we understand that the rule is a vampire cannot
<v Speaker 1>come into your house unless invited. And then you have Charlie,
<v Speaker 1>this is our next door neighbor, Jerry Dandridge. I don't
<v Speaker 1>know why he wouldn't have told his mom like that second,
<v Speaker 1>but you know, then so Jerry gets invited in by
<v Speaker 1>the mom and so that kids gives him free rein
<v Speaker 1>to come in where whenever he wants to. Now right,
<v Speaker 1>what we find out in The Lost Boys is not
<v Speaker 1>that they can't come in if not invited. It's that
<v Speaker 1>the magic that works against them is useless if you
<v Speaker 1>invite them in. Like he can eat the garlic, he
<v Speaker 1>can handle the holy water. None of those little things work.
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what would have happened with a stake
<v Speaker 1>through the heart, but anyway, none of those magical type
<v Speaker 1>things affect the vampire if you invite them in. I
<v Speaker 1>didn't invite you this time, Max, But we see all
<v Speaker 1>of the all of the young vampires bust through the
<v Speaker 1>wall and the windows. I mean, they're coming in and
<v Speaker 1>they're not invited at all, you know. So I think
<v Speaker 1>it was just a variation on what is really a
<v Speaker 1>made up trope anyway. I mean, I guess they're all
<v Speaker 1>really made up tropes, but.
<v Speaker 4>Sure, I think it's interesting. In Fright Night, he does
<v Speaker 4>such a great job with it. He's so suave and
<v Speaker 4>so cool that he's like.
<v Speaker 1>Hello, Charlie, did you see what he was drinking?
<v Speaker 6>No?
<v Speaker 1>Letty Mary nice?
<v Speaker 4>And then in The Lost Boys, you have that whole
<v Speaker 4>hilarious scene at the beginning or in the middle of
<v Speaker 4>the movie when the Frog brothers are invited over and
<v Speaker 4>they feed him straight garlic and they show that mirror
<v Speaker 4>right in his face and it startles.
<v Speaker 2>Him, and it's this kind of funny scene.
<v Speaker 4>All of that, it leads you to believe that Max
<v Speaker 4>is not the head vampire, which is a great reveal
<v Speaker 4>at the end.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that was a good way to handle that. That
<v Speaker 1>was a great way to handle it.
<v Speaker 2>I love both of these movies. Man, they're so good. Okay,
<v Speaker 2>you ready to talk about soundtrack or what?
<v Speaker 1>Before we jump into soundtrack. I forgot to mention this.
<v Speaker 1>I just I'll just mention it now. So we talked
<v Speaker 1>about the sequels. Did you know that there was a
<v Speaker 1>discussion about a prequel Key for Sutherland and Joel Schumacher
<v Speaker 1>discussed doing a prequel that occurred back at the time
<v Speaker 1>that the great San Francisco earthquake had happened that dropped
<v Speaker 1>the hotel in and that was when it was going
<v Speaker 1>to take place, and that was going to be like
<v Speaker 1>the start of all of the vampires. And I was like, dude,
<v Speaker 1>that is another one that needs to be made.
<v Speaker 2>That sounds great to me. I'm I'm all on board
<v Speaker 2>for that.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, But he for Sutherland said, you know, it was
<v Speaker 1>a it was a conversation over a bottle of wine.
<v Speaker 1>That's all it ever, was nothing more than that.
<v Speaker 4>I did hear Joel Schumacher discuss the idea of having
<v Speaker 4>a new movie called The Lost Girls. That was his
<v Speaker 4>idea that it was basically a.
<v Speaker 2>Group of girl vampires terrorized town.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like The Craft or something.
<v Speaker 2>Right.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, soundtracks, soundtracks, Let's talk about soundtracks. Okay, So let's
<v Speaker 1>start with Fright Night. So Fright Night's soundtrack is done
<v Speaker 1>by Brad Fidel, Yes, who got the job because he
<v Speaker 1>had lucked into this magical movie called The Terminator. At
<v Speaker 1>this time in history, digital music was the thing that
<v Speaker 1>was coming about, and Tom Holland totally saw that. He
<v Speaker 1>was like, I you know, I knew, I knew. Tangerine
<v Speaker 1>Dream was doing all this stuff like that. Tangerine Dream
<v Speaker 1>did the soundtrack from Risky Business, which is freaking awesome.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I've downloaded their stuff in the last week.
<v Speaker 1>It's so good. Even though it's that eighties digital stuff,
<v Speaker 1>they were masters at it. But Brad Fidell was doing
<v Speaker 1>that same very techno electronic sound to do the soundtrack
<v Speaker 1>for his movies. And Tom Holland loved what he had
<v Speaker 1>done with the Terminator and so said, come on, come
<v Speaker 1>over here. We want you to be the composer for
<v Speaker 1>this movie. So come to Me. Come to Me was
<v Speaker 1>a song by Brad Fidell that he had like done
<v Speaker 1>the lyrics for and everything, like he was a singer
<v Speaker 1>on it. And then when they had it's the one
<v Speaker 1>that's playing whenever Jerry's about to bite her yea, and
<v Speaker 1>Tom Holland had to say, you got to lose the
<v Speaker 1>lyrics and Brad Fidel's like what Yeah, He's like, wait
<v Speaker 1>a minute, what am I thinking? I got? This is
<v Speaker 1>supposed to serve the movie. So he took it out.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, do you are you ready for my come to Me?
<v Speaker 1>Sorry, but you got something? You got something more? Yeah.
<v Speaker 4>So I did see all that, and I think it's
<v Speaker 4>it kind of broke its heart a little bit because
<v Speaker 4>he did pour his blood, sweat and tears into the
<v Speaker 4>lyrics for come to Me, right and then but when
<v Speaker 4>they pulled it out it worked even better. But I
<v Speaker 4>thought this was hilarious. So the movie is released, you
<v Speaker 4>have this real seductive song. It's what they play while
<v Speaker 4>Jerry is biting Amy and sort of transforming her into
<v Speaker 4>the vampires. But Brad Fidel was at his studio one
<v Speaker 4>day and his phone rang and he said, there's this
<v Speaker 4>woman on the phone who said, are you Brad Fidel?
<v Speaker 2>And he's like yes. He's like, how did you get
<v Speaker 2>my number? I mean, who is this?
<v Speaker 4>So somehow she had found him, figured out a way
<v Speaker 4>to call him, called him up and said you're Brad Fidel,
<v Speaker 4>Yes i am. Did you write this song come to
<v Speaker 4>me for frid Night?
<v Speaker 1>Yes?
<v Speaker 4>I did, And she said do you have a longer
<v Speaker 4>version of that song?
<v Speaker 2>He goes, well no, he goes.
<v Speaker 4>That, I mean the spot in the movie doesn't really
<v Speaker 4>call for anything more than two or three minutes.
<v Speaker 2>He goes, that's it's the only thing I wrote.
<v Speaker 4>She's like, really, because my boyfriend and I love that song.
<v Speaker 2>We just need a longer version of that song.
<v Speaker 1>Sorry, honey, songs over.
<v Speaker 2>That was a great hunt.
<v Speaker 1>You get a sandwich.
<v Speaker 6>Song just.
<v Speaker 4>The end credit song Friday Night. It's a song called
<v Speaker 4>frid Night's by the Jay Gilles Band.
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, there was a video for that
<v Speaker 1>one too, right.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Jay Gill's band, better known for Centerfold, Freeze, Frame,
<v Speaker 4>Love Steams. Yeah, I love Jay Gill's band. They were
<v Speaker 4>a little past their prime when this song came out.
<v Speaker 4>We already talk about boys soundtrack.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, first the score. Let's talk about the score real quick.
<v Speaker 1>Because the composer for the Lost Boys is a guy
<v Speaker 1>named Thomas Newman. And if you if you've looked at
<v Speaker 1>soundtrack composers at all, you know the name Newman because
<v Speaker 1>you've got Alfred Newman, who is a composer of movies
<v Speaker 1>who won multiple Oscar Awards. What what's up?
<v Speaker 2>That's not Alfred E.
<v Speaker 1>Newman? Yeah, I don't think so. We didn't have kind
<v Speaker 1>of a wide smile. I don't know anyway. He he
<v Speaker 1>he won several Academy Awards. He was He's the one
<v Speaker 1>that composed the twentieth Century Fox.
<v Speaker 2>He did that, okay.
<v Speaker 1>And then you got Randy Newman, who's his cousin, who's
<v Speaker 1>done all you know, he did the Toy Story, he
<v Speaker 1>did all of those soundtracks that he's done, which is
<v Speaker 1>a unique He's got his own unique style. His brother had,
<v Speaker 1>His brother, I believe his name is David, has done
<v Speaker 1>the soundtracks as well. Not really as many cool ones
<v Speaker 1>as Thomas has done. Thomas has quite the resume, David
<v Speaker 1>not so much. But even still, he's won an Oscar
<v Speaker 1>for Anastasia. The other one of note that he did
<v Speaker 1>that David did was Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure. So
<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty sure I talked about him last time. But
<v Speaker 1>Thomas Newman, who did the score for The Lost Boys,
<v Speaker 1>has composed tons, I mean tons. I can't get him
<v Speaker 1>all in, but let's hit some big ones. The Cinderella Man,
<v Speaker 1>American Beauty, The Green Mile, Angels in America, Finding Nemo,
<v Speaker 1>Wally James Bond film Skyfall and Specter, and the Shawshank Redemption.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, dude, that's just a few. Like, he's got
<v Speaker 1>a ton, and he has this very unique record, he
<v Speaker 1>very sad record. He has been nominated for fifteen Academy Awards,
<v Speaker 1>tying him with another composer named Alex North for the
<v Speaker 1>most nominations without a win.
<v Speaker 4>Oh man, Yeah, it's nice to be nominated, but sure
<v Speaker 4>nice to win.
<v Speaker 2>All right.
<v Speaker 6>D That leads us to the theme song of Lost Boys,
<v Speaker 6>Cry and a Sister. The song is amazing.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it just makes the hair stand up on your
<v Speaker 1>arms every single time. Right every time.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, the choir of the children singing the you know,
<v Speaker 4>thou shalt not fall, Thou shalt not kill, thou shalt
<v Speaker 4>not die.
<v Speaker 2>So good. It's written by a guy named Gerard McMahon.
<v Speaker 1>Uh huh, and.
<v Speaker 4>Joel Schumacher had worked with him previously, came to him
<v Speaker 4>and said, Hey, I need you to write the theme
<v Speaker 4>song for this.
<v Speaker 1>Movie I'm doing.
<v Speaker 2>It's called Lost Boys.
<v Speaker 4>He said, typically he watches the movie so he can
<v Speaker 4>get a feel for it, and he didn't really get
<v Speaker 4>a chance to do that, so he wrote it straight
<v Speaker 4>from the script.
<v Speaker 1>Huh.
<v Speaker 2>It's kind of an interesting way to do it. He
<v Speaker 2>had an idea of what he wanted to do.
<v Speaker 4>He knew he wanted the choir of children kind of
<v Speaker 4>give it that creepy feel.
<v Speaker 1>Oh, it's successful, very eerie and moving.
<v Speaker 4>I mean they play it ten times throughout the entire
<v Speaker 4>movie when David's killed at the beginning, they play it
<v Speaker 4>with the hunting credits. Yeah, play it at the moment
<v Speaker 4>when David's killed, And every time.
<v Speaker 2>They play it, I'm like, I just want to keep
<v Speaker 2>listening to that song.
<v Speaker 1>So I listened to an interview with Jason Patrick and
<v Speaker 1>Key for Sutherland and they started talking about that song.
<v Speaker 1>And you know they're at this They're at this like
<v Speaker 1>fan base convention. I don't know what it is, but
<v Speaker 1>they're obviously speaking to a large crowd of people and
<v Speaker 1>key for Sutherland's Like, so, okay, So I'm looking out
<v Speaker 1>of the audience and I'm seeing, Okay, there are a
<v Speaker 1>few kids. Uh so how do I say this? So
<v Speaker 1>what do I say? So? Like, every time I would
<v Speaker 1>go to a dancing bar, that song would automatically come
<v Speaker 1>on while I was there. That just I guess the
<v Speaker 1>you know, the dancers, when they would see him come in,
<v Speaker 1>we're like, oh, oh, I got to play that song
<v Speaker 1>for my next day.
<v Speaker 2>I know what'll get his attention.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, and somehow we hit the stripper songs again. I
<v Speaker 1>don't know how we do it for everypod. I just
<v Speaker 1>got to let our audience know I I do not
<v Speaker 1>go to strip clubs, all right, I just don't do it.
<v Speaker 1>I need you guys to know that. It's just fun
<v Speaker 1>to talk about the idea. I don't go to strip clubs.
<v Speaker 2>Hey, we love stripper songs.
<v Speaker 4>I don't know if you know this or not, but
<v Speaker 4>Marilyn Manson actually has a cover of Cry Little Sister.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's got a whole lot of covers, a whole
<v Speaker 1>lot of good songs that are not as good as
<v Speaker 1>the songs that he covered.
<v Speaker 2>Totally, totally, yeah, Yeah.
<v Speaker 4>We can't say enough good things about Cry Little Sister.
<v Speaker 4>But there are some other songs on the soundtrack.
<v Speaker 1>I want to talk about. One of my favorites is
<v Speaker 1>the one by the lead singer Foreigner Lou Graham. He
<v Speaker 1>did Lost in the Shadows, which is that one that's
<v Speaker 1>playing while they're racing their motorcycles. Yes, that is a
<v Speaker 1>freaking awesome song.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, great songer, great song.
<v Speaker 4>There's actually a deleted scene that uses that song.
<v Speaker 2>I think they kind of shifted it around. Oh yeah, Yeah.
<v Speaker 4>Michael is cleaning dishes and mom is doing chores and
<v Speaker 4>Sam is playing it on the radio, and he comes
<v Speaker 4>downstairs and makes his mom dance with him, and then
<v Speaker 4>he grabs Michael and kind of the three of them
<v Speaker 4>dance around the kitchen. It does not fit the tone
<v Speaker 4>of the movie at all, uh huh, But it was
<v Speaker 4>an interesting deleted scene to watch.
<v Speaker 1>So that's interesting because we know how the movie does end.
<v Speaker 1>It ends at that It ends very abruptly with the
<v Speaker 1>line by the Grandpa. One thing I could never stomach
<v Speaker 1>about Santa Carla All the Day Vampire. Yeah, yes, right,
<v Speaker 1>what a way to end the movie. Like he just
<v Speaker 1>kind of wanders off to get the beer. They're like,
<v Speaker 1>what's wrong with you? What's going on? It's his root beer,
<v Speaker 1>his root beer?
<v Speaker 4>Yes, right with it in the drawer by his oreos
<v Speaker 4>and uh, don't pull off the tab to the TV.
<v Speaker 1>Guide right, and then it ends. The movie ends there,
<v Speaker 1>And I can see how if I was right in
<v Speaker 1>the movie, it'd be like, I can't end the movie there.
<v Speaker 1>But it was the way they handle it was great.
<v Speaker 1>I thought that was a perfect way to end end
<v Speaker 1>that movie.
<v Speaker 4>So Krylo's Sisters awesome, Lost in the Shadows awesome. Yes
<v Speaker 4>you get Don't Let the Sun Go Down on Me
<v Speaker 4>by Roger Daltrey, which is a cover of Elton John right, right, right,
<v Speaker 4>you have People Are Strange, which is a cover of
<v Speaker 4>the Doors song.
<v Speaker 1>Right, and then one of the big ones. There were
<v Speaker 1>two videos that I remember seeing for this movie because
<v Speaker 1>they showed clips of the movie throughout, and one of
<v Speaker 1>those was the Lou Graham Lost in the Shadows song.
<v Speaker 1>The other one is one we've talked about before.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, good Times, which is in excess to Jimmy Barnes,
<v Speaker 4>which we talked about, was kind of the precursor for
<v Speaker 4>in excess Kick Cowboy.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah they did, you know, they didn't. They didn't make
<v Speaker 1>it for the movie like they had already covered the song.
<v Speaker 1>It was part of some Australian tour that they were
<v Speaker 1>doing and they did not, and so they covered another
<v Speaker 1>Australian band.
<v Speaker 2>Do you know this, yeah, the Easy Beats.
<v Speaker 1>Right, yes, which one of the members of the Easy
<v Speaker 1>Beats was George Young who is the brother.
<v Speaker 2>Of Angus and Malcolm Young from ac DC.
<v Speaker 1>There you go.
<v Speaker 2>Another tidbit on that song, good Times, the original version
<v Speaker 2>by the Easy Beats. They played it on the radio.
<v Speaker 4>Who was listening to that radio station, Paul McCartney. When
<v Speaker 4>that song was over, Paul McCartney called the radio station
<v Speaker 4>and said, Hi, this is Paul McCartney.
<v Speaker 2>I want you to play that song again.
<v Speaker 1>Did they play it again? Yes?
<v Speaker 2>They did, Yes they did.
<v Speaker 1>That's fantastic. All right.
<v Speaker 4>Can we talk about Tim Cappello his version of the
<v Speaker 4>Calls I still believed.
<v Speaker 1>Let me just say one of the most memorable like
<v Speaker 1>bit part cameo things of any movie ever.
<v Speaker 2>And he he is.
<v Speaker 1>He created a character that was you were just like
<v Speaker 1>I know that guy every time I see him. He
<v Speaker 1>is the sexy saxophonist.
<v Speaker 4>The saxophonists that covered himself with baby oil and sang
<v Speaker 4>the song I still believe it's so great.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and Tim, he actually sang it like the guy
<v Speaker 1>who's up there who you see is he's not lip
<v Speaker 1>syncing some other song. He is an actual musician. He
<v Speaker 1>was trained as a musician. He was in bands in
<v Speaker 1>the seventies and eighties. He got addicted to heroin in
<v Speaker 1>the seventies and so in nineteen seventy nine he quits
<v Speaker 1>cold Turkey and takes up bodybuilding. And so he is
<v Speaker 1>toured with Carly Simon, Peter Gabriel, Garland, Jeffries. He was
<v Speaker 1>one of the main guys who toured with Tina Turner.
<v Speaker 1>But he would always he would do that bit like
<v Speaker 1>he would grease himself all up and he'd be next
<v Speaker 1>to Carly Simon used to bring him out in a
<v Speaker 1>dog leash and a g string. I don't know what
<v Speaker 1>else to say on top of that. That's the whole story.
<v Speaker 1>That's it's just it's crazy. But man, what a a memorable.
<v Speaker 4>Guy, great song, iconic cameo appearance, and just really impactful
<v Speaker 4>moment in the movie. Yet you say lost Boys, one
<v Speaker 4>of the first things people think about is the greasy
<v Speaker 4>sax player.
<v Speaker 1>Are we ready to move now to final judgment?
<v Speaker 2>I think we're ready for final judgment.
<v Speaker 1>So we have two movies that are incredibly similar. One
<v Speaker 1>came out an eighty five, one came out in eighty seven.
<v Speaker 1>They redefined for us what the vampire was. They made
<v Speaker 1>vampires sexy again. Vampires had gotten silly, and they made
<v Speaker 1>him sexy again with still maintaining some humor in both movies,
<v Speaker 1>which I've told you before is vital for any movie.
<v Speaker 1>You got to have at least a little bit of humor,
<v Speaker 1>and these both of these movies did an impeccable job
<v Speaker 1>of that. I love the way that Tom Holland took
<v Speaker 1>this notion of a movie from nineteen forty eight and
<v Speaker 1>made it into two different movies, Cloak and Dagger and
<v Speaker 1>Fright Night. You know, the boy who cries wolf sees
<v Speaker 1>something out his back window which no one will believe
<v Speaker 1>him about, and the murderer is trying to get him.
<v Speaker 1>It's fantastically written, but for me. The Lost Boys, they
<v Speaker 1>took it up a notch. They were something I could
<v Speaker 1>identify with more like they made me want to be
<v Speaker 1>a vampire. They David Key for Sutherland's part, I mean
<v Speaker 1>Key for Sutherland to me is the movie. He is
<v Speaker 1>the one who defined and he had less lines than anybody.
<v Speaker 1>He just his presence, his looks, everything about him just
<v Speaker 1>made you want to be a part of it. And
<v Speaker 1>that's exactly what he was supposed to be, right, He
<v Speaker 1>was supposed to be somebody that enticed you to do
<v Speaker 1>something that logically no one would choose to do, and
<v Speaker 1>he did such a fantastic job with it. So, even
<v Speaker 1>though I don't think the script is quite as good
<v Speaker 1>for The Lost Boys, if I got to pick you,
<v Speaker 1>if I'm gonna watch one or the other, I'm gonna
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna pick Lost Boys to watch.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, here's where I come down. Okay, you pretty much
<v Speaker 2>stole all my thunder there.
<v Speaker 1>But okay, I tried to.
<v Speaker 4>Get you to go fi no, no, no, this is
<v Speaker 4>the deal. I love both of these movies in a
<v Speaker 4>very equal sense. Half of my personality, like the nerd
<v Speaker 4>half of me, the nerd half of me that likes
<v Speaker 4>to stay up late and watch old monster movies and
<v Speaker 4>geek out and think about what would happen if I
<v Speaker 4>vampire move next door to me. That part of me
<v Speaker 4>loves Friday Night to death, the rock and roll, cool, motorcycle, rebellious,
<v Speaker 4>never Die, Never grow old, run away with the pretty girl.
<v Speaker 4>That part of me loves Lost Boys. So it's a
<v Speaker 4>real tough decision for me. I think these are both
<v Speaker 4>sort of neck.
<v Speaker 3>And neck, But neck and neck, he said, But if
<v Speaker 3>I want to be honest, I think that Lost Boys
<v Speaker 3>is my preferred movie.
<v Speaker 2>It definitely had more of a cultural impact on me.
<v Speaker 4>Just from the cast and the style. The soundtrack is
<v Speaker 4>definitely one of my favorites of the eighties. The coolness
<v Speaker 4>of the vampires in Lost Boys tips the.
<v Speaker 2>Scales for me. It's the one I'm going to go to.
<v Speaker 4>It has so much fun and the twist end and
<v Speaker 4>the fun characters and all the laughs. Of course, Friday
<v Speaker 4>Night has that too, and I would definitely give a
<v Speaker 4>recommendation to both of these, but Lost Boys I think.
<v Speaker 2>Is the more enjoyable of these two. But that's where
<v Speaker 2>I am. Where are you, guys?
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<v Speaker 1>All right, right, Jason's been fun man CD.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah. Shoot,