Episode 269

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<v Speaker 1>This is season eleven, episode two hundred and sixty nine
<v Speaker 1>of Sword and Scale, a show that reveals that the
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<v Speaker 1>available in iOS and android varieties. Alongside the eastern edge
<v Speaker 1>of South Carolina is a sixty mile strip of sand
<v Speaker 1>and Ocean. This long stretch of beach is known as
<v Speaker 1>the Grand Strand, and right in the middle of it
<v Speaker 1>is the resort city of Myrtle Beach. I'm sure you've
<v Speaker 1>heard of it. Myrtle Beach is mostly known for being
<v Speaker 1>a destination for tourists. It's a vacation spot with golf courses,
<v Speaker 1>beachfront boardwalks, huge arcades, an amusement park in one of
<v Speaker 1>America's tallest ferris wheels. But for young adults, perhaps the
<v Speaker 1>most attractive thing about Myrtle Beach is the nightlife. When
<v Speaker 1>the sun goes down, the city offers karaoke bars, beach bars,
<v Speaker 1>live music venues, nightclubs, and all the riff raft that
<v Speaker 1>comes with it. For this reason, many college students in
<v Speaker 1>America make Myrtle Beach their preferred destination for spring break.
<v Speaker 1>Woo who Well, there is plenty of fun to be
<v Speaker 1>had in Myrtle Beach. The city also has a dark side.
<v Speaker 1>Like any other popular vacation spot, there's no shortage of crime,
<v Speaker 1>and most of that crime is dealt with by the
<v Speaker 1>Myrtle Beach Police Department. Back in April of twenty twenty two,
<v Speaker 1>several police investigators in Myrtle Beach, along with a few
<v Speaker 1>FBI agents questioned a middle aged woman named Angel Voss.
<v Speaker 5>During the course of.
<v Speaker 6>Our investigation, we were able to inters conversation, So.
<v Speaker 5>I'm gonna do it. I'm going to read to you
<v Speaker 5>a couple of quotes, because if you try to accuse
<v Speaker 5>you anything, then I'm happily involved it.
<v Speaker 7>Do I say, I think he didn't know I'm here.
<v Speaker 7>That's what that was. I'm strike, we just know. I'm
<v Speaker 7>straightforward to I don't think you did, and you're not
<v Speaker 7>very involved in it. I was, yeah, I'm not with
<v Speaker 7>you yet me, you know, I know.
<v Speaker 1>Shortly after investigators began asking their questions, Angel became very
<v Speaker 1>upset and hurried out of the interview room. These questions
<v Speaker 1>the investigators were asking related to a thirteen year old
<v Speaker 1>cold case that was first opened in April of two
<v Speaker 1>thousand and nine.
<v Speaker 3>Jon, I'm going to take.
<v Speaker 8>You back in time, back around April twenty second to
<v Speaker 8>twenty third of two thousand and nine. I'm in not
<v Speaker 8>a young individual named Britney Drexel. She's seventeen years of
<v Speaker 8>age from Rochester.
<v Speaker 7>New York.
<v Speaker 8>The scientist she wants to come to Myrtle Beach around
<v Speaker 8>the spring great time around in April with a group
<v Speaker 8>of friends of hers from Rochester, she came and arrived
<v Speaker 8>and had a good time for the most part.
<v Speaker 1>In April of two thousand and nine, seventeen year old
<v Speaker 1>Britney Drexel drove to Myrtle Beach with two of her
<v Speaker 1>girlfriends for spring break. On the night before they planned
<v Speaker 1>a return to Rochester, Brittany went missing and the local
<v Speaker 1>police were quickly notified. As part of the investigation, Brittany's
<v Speaker 1>eighteen year old boyfriend, John Greco was questioned by police.
<v Speaker 9>Talk to me about about her.
<v Speaker 10>Well, we we have put up and down, but.
<v Speaker 9>Overall we were really a really good.
<v Speaker 11>Sat relationship, even though we argued and everything else. And
<v Speaker 11>hurl law right, I mean I helped over the house,
<v Speaker 11>I believe, and dinner with it.
<v Speaker 9>She talks about going to college. Yeah, she coming iron
<v Speaker 9>and I mean to go through a computer she was
<v Speaker 9>looking at work at HOS.
<v Speaker 1>Brittany Drexel was born on October seventh, nineteen ninety one,
<v Speaker 1>and she had two younger half siblings. All of them
<v Speaker 1>were raised Bytney's mother, Dawn and her adoptive dad, Chad.
<v Speaker 1>The Drexel family lived in a middle class suburb of Rochester,
<v Speaker 1>New York. Throughout her life, Brittany dealt with a condition
<v Speaker 1>known as persistent hyperplastic primary vitreous. I think I said
<v Speaker 1>that right. It's a mouthful, but in short, Brittany was
<v Speaker 1>blind in her right eye, and she often wore contact
<v Speaker 1>lenses to mask the fact that one of her eyes
<v Speaker 1>would sometimes wander. By two thousand and nine, Brittany was
<v Speaker 1>in her junior year at Gates Chile High School, where
<v Speaker 1>she played soccer and loved it. With her senior year
<v Speaker 1>just around the corner, Brittany was starting to think about college.
<v Speaker 1>She planned to continue dating John Greco and hopefully attend
<v Speaker 1>nursing school in whatever area John ended up going to college.
<v Speaker 1>In April of that year, Brittany's high school let out
<v Speaker 1>for spring break, and Brittany told John that she was
<v Speaker 1>planning a vacation to Myrtle Beach with friends. She invited
<v Speaker 1>John to go with them, but John's work schedule didn't
<v Speaker 1>make that possible. When Brittany told her mom about her
<v Speaker 1>vacation plans, Don Drexel quickly shut those plans down.
<v Speaker 12>She asked me if she could go and I told
<v Speaker 12>her no, and she asked me why. I said, because
<v Speaker 12>I don't know the kids you're going with. I don't
<v Speaker 12>there's no parental supervision, and something's going to happen.
<v Speaker 1>Understandably, don Drexel wasn't about to let her seventeen year
<v Speaker 1>old daughter drive down to Myrtle Beach without any adults.
<v Speaker 1>That would be stupid. This led to a heated argument
<v Speaker 1>between her and Brittany that ended up with Brittany storming
<v Speaker 1>out of the house.
<v Speaker 9>I picked up her house that she's gone with.
<v Speaker 5>It was a huge argument if.
<v Speaker 11>She actually ran away from her house, and I think
<v Speaker 11>she's really.
<v Speaker 9>She said, I'm going to Myrtle. I don't care what
<v Speaker 9>my parents say.
<v Speaker 11>I'm going. I agree that you need a break because
<v Speaker 11>her family life is terrible. It's absolutely he worked.
<v Speaker 9>I've seen this all. My mom has been going off
<v Speaker 9>without a year. Yes, her and her mom never really
<v Speaker 9>saw I.
<v Speaker 11>That I've known her, and that's typical her, Okay, but
<v Speaker 11>it was a little bit more sting because her.
<v Speaker 13>Hands are going to divorce. I mean, I'm not saying
<v Speaker 13>to show anybody under the bus with his parents because
<v Speaker 13>your parents really don't care about her. Obviously, it's all
<v Speaker 13>going through a difficult time too, you know.
<v Speaker 9>Oh everything is.
<v Speaker 1>Don and Chad Drexel were in the middle of a
<v Speaker 1>divorce and Brittany was having an especially hard time dealing
<v Speaker 1>with the whole thing. Her boyfriend John was aware of that,
<v Speaker 1>so he encouraged Brittany to go down to Myrtle Beach,
<v Speaker 1>clear her head, have some fun and just relax. So
<v Speaker 1>Brittany lied to her mom and told her that she
<v Speaker 1>would be spending spring break at a friend's house in Rochester.
<v Speaker 1>Then Brittany linked up with two of her girlfriends and
<v Speaker 1>the three of them made the fourteen hour drive to
<v Speaker 1>Myrtle Beach.
<v Speaker 14>How did she end up coming down here with you, folks?
<v Speaker 15>She was originally supposed to go with another group of guys,
<v Speaker 15>and then one of them veiled out to have enough
<v Speaker 15>money and the other she didn't have cars, so and
<v Speaker 15>then she like asked to come with us.
<v Speaker 5>When did you get here?
<v Speaker 16>Thursday?
<v Speaker 17>Around like nine time in the morning.
<v Speaker 11>Okay, and model until yesterday.
<v Speaker 14>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Brittany and her friends stayed at the Bar Harbor Motel.
<v Speaker 1>But these two friends were more acquaintances to Brittany than
<v Speaker 1>anything else. The three of them had partied with each
<v Speaker 1>other before, but they weren't exactly close, and they didn't
<v Speaker 1>stick together during the time at the beach. Instead, Brittany
<v Speaker 1>met up with different friends from Rochester while she was there.
<v Speaker 1>On the night before Brittany planned to return home, she
<v Speaker 1>left her hotel to meet up with these other friends.
<v Speaker 1>As she did this, Brittany was wearing a pair of
<v Speaker 1>shorts that didn't belong to her.
<v Speaker 15>Okay earlier and on to get her say, and then
<v Speaker 15>I was like, I'm my breast were fire farms to
<v Speaker 15>war the other night?
<v Speaker 17>She said, she went job there.
<v Speaker 16>We were in a field.
<v Speaker 1>Brittany received a text message from her friend asking her
<v Speaker 1>to return the shorts she was wearing. Brittany agreed to
<v Speaker 1>come back to their hotel to drop them off, but
<v Speaker 1>Brittany never made it there.
<v Speaker 17>No, so then we weren't down there.
<v Speaker 14>She wasn't there.
<v Speaker 15>Be how text messages of the night she never came
<v Speaker 15>back to, or maybe that she'd come back in the
<v Speaker 15>morning she went out with company.
<v Speaker 1>After Brittany was reported missing, Myrtle Beach detectives were able
<v Speaker 1>to confirm that Brittany did arrive at and then leave
<v Speaker 1>the Blue Water Resort hotel. Which was where her other
<v Speaker 1>Rochester friends were staying. The surveillance camera in the lobby
<v Speaker 1>captured Brittany walking in and then a few moments later
<v Speaker 1>walking out. Presumably Brittany was on her way back to
<v Speaker 1>her own hotel to drop off the shorts.
<v Speaker 8>We know when she leaves the Blue Water because at
<v Speaker 8>eight forty eight pm we get to see mister Exel
<v Speaker 8>leaves the Blue Water and we know she's perfectly fine
<v Speaker 8>at that time, and that's the last time that we
<v Speaker 8>get to lay eyes on the the Brittany DRUGSLM.
<v Speaker 1>The surveillance footage from the Bluewater Resort Hotel was the
<v Speaker 1>last known sighting of Brittany. From that point, nobody seemed
<v Speaker 1>to know where she went or why she never arrived
<v Speaker 1>back at her hotel. That surveillance footage was captured on
<v Speaker 1>the evening of April twenty fifth, two thousand and nine.
<v Speaker 1>It would take Myrtle Beach investigators and the FBI thirteen
<v Speaker 1>years to determine what happened after Brittany left the Blue
<v Speaker 1>Water Resort hotel. In April of twenty twenty two, these
<v Speaker 1>authorities revealed to Brittany's family and the public that when
<v Speaker 1>Brittany left the hotel, she had the horrible misfortune of
<v Speaker 1>crossing paths with a monster. In April of two thousand
<v Speaker 1>and nine, seventeen year old Brittany Drexel was vacationing in
<v Speaker 1>Myrtle Beach, South Carolina for spring break. Brittany was from Rochester,
<v Speaker 1>New York shout out WATP, and she had traveled to
<v Speaker 1>Myrtle Beach with two girlfriends even though her mom had
<v Speaker 1>forbidden Brittany from going there. Brittany's boyfriend, John Greco, stayed
<v Speaker 1>in Rochester because he had to work that week, but
<v Speaker 1>he was in constant contact with Brittany while she was
<v Speaker 1>in South Carolina. The couple texted each other continuously, according
<v Speaker 1>to John. As spring break was winding down, Brittany reflected
<v Speaker 1>on her vacation and realized that she really hadn't enjoyed herself.
<v Speaker 1>She felt isolated by her friends and was eager to
<v Speaker 1>come home.
<v Speaker 11>She said that she really wasn't wrong because I wasn't
<v Speaker 11>found there with them. She said that she really looking a.
<v Speaker 9>Lot and that her friends would being terrible to her.
<v Speaker 9>The friend that she came downdy coming down.
<v Speaker 1>During her time at Myrtle Beach, Brittany separated from the
<v Speaker 1>girls she traveled with and linked up with other friends
<v Speaker 1>from Rochester who were also vacationing there. On the night
<v Speaker 1>before Brittany planned to return home, she walked about a
<v Speaker 1>mile from her hotel to the Blue Water Resort hotel,
<v Speaker 1>where these other friends were staying. But after she got there,
<v Speaker 1>Brittany was called back to her hotel to return a
<v Speaker 1>pair of shorts.
<v Speaker 8>There was a discussion about wearing a pair of black
<v Speaker 8>shorts that another friend of hers was going to wear
<v Speaker 8>that night, and then she needed to get back to the.
<v Speaker 3>Bar harbor to take those shorts backs or a friend
<v Speaker 3>could wear them.
<v Speaker 8>We know this also because fortunately, I'm like so many
<v Speaker 8>teenagers in this eight age.
<v Speaker 3>She loves to use her cell phone and she loves
<v Speaker 3>a text message.
<v Speaker 1>Brittany walked along the Myrtle Beach strip back towards her hotel,
<v Speaker 1>all the while she was texting her boyfriend, but their
<v Speaker 1>text exchanges abruptly stopped. Brittany was no longer responding the last.
<v Speaker 9>I patched back and forth where her coming. She hated
<v Speaker 9>it down there. She excremely avid her friend that.
<v Speaker 5>She was really outrack.
<v Speaker 9>So I touched her you know, be right, one more
<v Speaker 9>data to good night.
<v Speaker 8>Her last text message acknowledges that she's on the way
<v Speaker 8>back to the hotel and she's going to see him
<v Speaker 8>for the night because she's going back to Rochester the
<v Speaker 8>next day.
<v Speaker 3>That's the last.
<v Speaker 8>Electronic communication we know of family and friends. Within seven
<v Speaker 8>to fifteen minutes, right away realized because she used her
<v Speaker 8>phone so much that.
<v Speaker 3>That she wasn't communicating. They became concerned and wored about it.
<v Speaker 8>And the text message continue and continue, Brittany, where are you?
<v Speaker 3>Are you okay? Are you okay? She never responds.
<v Speaker 1>After about an hour of waiting for Brittany to respond,
<v Speaker 1>John decided to tell Brittany's mom that he couldn't reach her.
<v Speaker 1>At the time, Don Drexel didn't know that Brittany was
<v Speaker 1>six states away in South Carolina. As far as she knew,
<v Speaker 1>Brittany was spending the weekend at a nearby friend's house
<v Speaker 1>in Rochester.
<v Speaker 12>We didn't find out that she was there until Saturday
<v Speaker 12>evening when I got a phone call you know stating
<v Speaker 12>that from John Greco that her which is her boyfriend,
<v Speaker 12>stating that she was in South Carolina and that they
<v Speaker 12>couldn't find her.
<v Speaker 1>After don Drexel was told that her daughter was in
<v Speaker 1>Myrtle Beach, she spent the night trying to reach Brittany.
<v Speaker 1>For the first few hours, her phone calls rang several
<v Speaker 1>times before going to voicemail, but eventually they started going
<v Speaker 1>straight to voicemail. This was obviously concerning, especially because Brittany
<v Speaker 1>was known for being glued to her phone. The next morning,
<v Speaker 1>Down and Brittany's boyfriend drove to Myrtle Beach, where they
<v Speaker 1>spoke with local authorities after learning about the strained relationship
<v Speaker 1>between Brittany and her mom. The prominent assumption among investigators
<v Speaker 1>was that Brittany had simply run away, but John Greco
<v Speaker 1>insisted that Brittany wouldn't do that without contacting them.
<v Speaker 9>She did not run, I think be suld you rule
<v Speaker 9>out a relation to certain in her hand. She could
<v Speaker 9>not not have come with.
<v Speaker 1>Brittany's boyfriend was concerned that Brittany might have accepted a
<v Speaker 1>ride from someone while walking back to her hotel, and
<v Speaker 1>maybe whoever that someone was had bad intentions. John knew
<v Speaker 1>that Brittany was overly trusting and often impulsive, a very
<v Speaker 1>bad combination, and he feared that she might have gotten
<v Speaker 1>into a car with strangers or a stranger extremely coughing.
<v Speaker 10>That's what's very new and something offers. They drink and
<v Speaker 10>arrived in for a group of good looking white guys.
<v Speaker 10>They had a nice something and said, hey, you got
<v Speaker 10>all right? We got drinks do here. She did play
<v Speaker 10>very corgized when it.
<v Speaker 9>Comes to that.
<v Speaker 1>Shortly after investigators began their search for Brittany, they learned
<v Speaker 1>that John's theory may not have been far fetched. Cell
<v Speaker 1>phone data and cell towers were used to track Brittany's movements.
<v Speaker 1>This data revealed that shortly after Brittany's last text message
<v Speaker 1>to John, her cell phone began moving much faster.
<v Speaker 8>That phone is moving fifty five to sixty five miles
<v Speaker 8>an hour southbound, heading down towards the pole Yard by
<v Speaker 8>that time, by ten oh one pm, her phone, beyond
<v Speaker 8>any reasonable battle is native to Georgetown.
<v Speaker 3>We don't know where she is.
<v Speaker 8>That we make the circumstantial assumption that she is with
<v Speaker 8>her phone, and the phone ultimately comes stationary around around
<v Speaker 8>the Poleyard landing More Santina River area for whatever reason.
<v Speaker 8>At eleven fifty eight PM is the last ping contact
<v Speaker 8>that we have at that phone. After that, all that
<v Speaker 8>source of information is exhausted as a relation to her phone.
<v Speaker 1>Brittany's phone pinged for the last time off of cell
<v Speaker 1>tower in Georgetown, about forty miles south of Myrtle Beach.
<v Speaker 1>While Georgetown is a city, the particular area of that
<v Speaker 1>cell tower was quite isolated, rural, and extremely swampy. It
<v Speaker 1>was a location where you're likely to find hunters, fishermen,
<v Speaker 1>wild boars, snakes, and giant house flies, all the great
<v Speaker 1>things that make the South the South. It certainly wasn't
<v Speaker 1>a place that a seventeen year old girl on spring
<v Speaker 1>break would likely want a visit. Within twelve hours of
<v Speaker 1>Brittany's disappearance, this isolated area of Georgetown was descended upon
<v Speaker 1>by multiple law enforcement agencies and volunteers. Large search parties
<v Speaker 1>combed through thick brush and waded through alligator infested swamps
<v Speaker 1>in hopes of finding Brittany or at least some sign
<v Speaker 1>of her. Unfortunately, they came up mostly empty handed. The
<v Speaker 1>only thing of note that was ever found was a
<v Speaker 1>pair of knockoff produce sunglasses, which may or may not
<v Speaker 1>have belonged to Brittany.
<v Speaker 8>Many many volunteer organizations were come in the woods in
<v Speaker 8>the area around the pole yard ran.
<v Speaker 3>During that period of time, all of.
<v Speaker 8>Our local law enforcementations, the Sheriff's Apartment, Merby's Police Apartment FBI.
<v Speaker 3>Were working and searching and hopes that we could turn them.
<v Speaker 3>As the months went by, it became were more concerning.
<v Speaker 3>If there were no concrete ladies to determine where exactly
<v Speaker 3>she went.
<v Speaker 8>We knew off the phone where we really didn't have
<v Speaker 8>anything else, So the investigation turned a known associates video,
<v Speaker 8>anything we could do to try to find out what happened.
<v Speaker 1>Investigators eventually turned their attention to the friends that Brittany
<v Speaker 1>met up with at Myrtle Beach Again. Brittany didn't spend
<v Speaker 1>much time with the girlfriends that she shared a hotel with. Instead,
<v Speaker 1>she met with other friends from Rochester who were also
<v Speaker 1>going on spring break. One of these friends was a
<v Speaker 1>young man named Pete Brosowitz.
<v Speaker 15>I don't know him personally, but I know of him
<v Speaker 15>to Rochester, so.
<v Speaker 7>He didn't come down with no she When we all
<v Speaker 7>went out.
<v Speaker 17>I don't remember if it was Thursday or Saturday. He
<v Speaker 17>left us sixth night, and she left everybody she loved
<v Speaker 17>with him.
<v Speaker 16>He invited her own in her.
<v Speaker 17>Until I at fires and staff.
<v Speaker 1>Twenty year old Pete Brosowitz lived in Rochester, New York,
<v Speaker 1>and worked as a nightclub promoter for his parents' company.
<v Speaker 1>He was the kind of guy you might find on
<v Speaker 1>an episode of The Jersey Shore if you watch that
<v Speaker 1>sort of trash. You know the type, spiky gelled hair,
<v Speaker 1>popped collar, overly proud of his bottle of Captain Morgan.
<v Speaker 1>That kind of guy. Pete knew Brittany Drexel, and when
<v Speaker 1>he ran into her at a club at Myrtle Beach,
<v Speaker 1>he seemingly took a lot of interest in her. According
<v Speaker 1>to Brittany's friends, Pete invited her to a VIP area
<v Speaker 1>of the club and feed her drinks. The next day,
<v Speaker 1>Brittany went missing after leaving Pete's hotel room suspiciously. When
<v Speaker 1>the hours of Brittany's disappearance, Pete drove back to Rochester.
<v Speaker 1>He left Myrtle Beach at two o'clock in the morning,
<v Speaker 1>and had seemingly done so in a hurry. Hmm curious.
<v Speaker 1>He left behind belongings and a hotel deposit, so concerning.
<v Speaker 1>As soon as he got back to Rochester, Pete hired
<v Speaker 1>a criminal defense attorney Huh.
<v Speaker 18>Myrtle Beach police say Peter Brosowitz was one of the
<v Speaker 18>last people to see Britney Drexel before she walked out
<v Speaker 18>of the Bluewater resort and disappeared. Rumors swirled about his behavior,
<v Speaker 18>and Drexel's mother, Dawn, even wrote a letter to our
<v Speaker 18>sister station in Myrtle Beach, questioning if he told police everything.
<v Speaker 18>In the letter, she accuses Brosowitz of going home to
<v Speaker 18>Rochester just hours after Drexel disappeared. She alleges he left
<v Speaker 18>his belongings and a deposit behind and gave multiple stories
<v Speaker 18>about what happened. According to the letter, Brozowitz quickly hired
<v Speaker 18>an attorney and displayed no empathy or concern.
<v Speaker 19>The letter reads, my daughter.
<v Speaker 18>Made mistakes, and one of the largest ones she ever
<v Speaker 18>made was when she trusted this group of people with
<v Speaker 18>her life.
<v Speaker 1>When the police and the media questioned Pete about Brittany's disappearance,
<v Speaker 1>it claimed that the last time he saw he was
<v Speaker 1>when Brittany left his ho tel room.
<v Speaker 20>The last time I saw her she came up to
<v Speaker 20>our hotel room. We were watching the Yankees Red Sox game,
<v Speaker 20>and she was on the phone arguing with her friend
<v Speaker 20>Jan about returning a pair of shorts. She said, I'll
<v Speaker 20>give you a call later if I want to come
<v Speaker 20>out and party, and she walked out, and that's the
<v Speaker 20>last time I saw her.
<v Speaker 1>Pete was heavily scrutinized by Brittany's friends, family, and media.
<v Speaker 1>His attitude and personality made him an easy target. Still,
<v Speaker 1>the scrutiny of this young man wasn't completely unjustified. After all,
<v Speaker 1>he gave a seventeen year old girl alcohol, invited her
<v Speaker 1>to his room, and allowed her to walk the Myrtle
<v Speaker 1>Beach Strip by herself. Not exactly a modeled citizen.
<v Speaker 20>Okay, First of all, I did talk to Brittany about
<v Speaker 20>why she was walking the strip by herself, and earlier
<v Speaker 20>that day, you know, he said, oh, for the last
<v Speaker 20>three nights, I walk by myself.
<v Speaker 1>Oh, it doesn't bother me.
<v Speaker 20>I'm fine, I'm like and I'm like, well, I didn't
<v Speaker 20>even go anywhere by myself because it's it's pretty bad
<v Speaker 20>down there.
<v Speaker 21>I'm not I'm on spring break.
<v Speaker 20>I'm not there to babysit anybody.
<v Speaker 1>During his media interviews, Pete didn't do himself any favors.
<v Speaker 1>He came across as arrogant and didn't seem to care
<v Speaker 1>about Britney's well being at all, though he did have
<v Speaker 1>a plausible explanation for why he left Myrtle Beach when
<v Speaker 1>he did.
<v Speaker 20>As anything, I'm from New York Rochester. It's a you know,
<v Speaker 20>a fourteen fifteen hour drive. We're there for a whole week.
<v Speaker 20>Our checkout time was in the morning, Sunday morning, so
<v Speaker 20>we decided to leave at two o'clock, because why would
<v Speaker 20>you want to leave Sunday in the middle of a
<v Speaker 20>day when it's a tourist town.
<v Speaker 1>According to Pete, he left Myrtle Beach at two am
<v Speaker 1>simply because he wanted to beat the traffic. Makes sense.
<v Speaker 1>I guess most some of us have done some early
<v Speaker 1>morning driving to beat rush hour, right, but two in
<v Speaker 1>the morning it's a weird time to suddenly pack up
<v Speaker 1>and go. While still keeping an eye on Pete and
<v Speaker 1>attempting to verify or discredit his story, investigators also looked
<v Speaker 1>at several registered sex offenders in the Myrtle Beach area.
<v Speaker 1>As you can imagine, there's quite a few of them.
<v Speaker 1>There was one in particular that caught their attention, though,
<v Speaker 1>forty nine year old Raymond Douglas Moody.
<v Speaker 22>Now taking a look at Moody's record, he's got quite
<v Speaker 22>a pass. He's a registered sex offender for things that
<v Speaker 22>happened while he was out in California, in which he
<v Speaker 22>was charged with committing a leude act on a minor
<v Speaker 22>under the age of fourteen. He also was charged with
<v Speaker 22>asrodomy with a child under the age of fourteen, rape
<v Speaker 22>and kidnapping to commit rape.
<v Speaker 23>Now for those charges, he went to prison for twenty years.
<v Speaker 22>Last August to Georgetown County Police and the South Carolina
<v Speaker 22>Law Enforcement Division searched an apartment did they say that
<v Speaker 22>Moody lived in at or around the time when Brittany
<v Speaker 22>went missing. The apartment was at the Sunset Lodge Hotel
<v Speaker 22>in Georgetown, which is pretty close to the cell phone
<v Speaker 22>tower where Britney's cell phone last and gave off signal.
<v Speaker 1>Like Pete Brosowitz, Raymond Moody was heavily scrutinized by the
<v Speaker 1>media after being named as a person of interest. In fact,
<v Speaker 1>one reporter went to Moody's work and shoved a camera
<v Speaker 1>in his face. Do you know anything about the missing teenager?
<v Speaker 24>Well?
<v Speaker 23>I do not.
<v Speaker 3>Can you tell us where you were?
<v Speaker 5>Back in April of nine.
<v Speaker 10>Good bye.
<v Speaker 23>Do you know what? Can you go?
<v Speaker 5>Fine?
<v Speaker 8>Do you tell us where you were on it?
<v Speaker 21>Bye?
<v Speaker 12>April of nine?
<v Speaker 3>Goodbye?
<v Speaker 22>Can you say it's a couple pluses?
<v Speaker 25>Right?
<v Speaker 3>Can we talk to you for a minute the police?
<v Speaker 3>You better split? Can I got nothing to say?
<v Speaker 19>Don you understand that?
<v Speaker 1>In most cases, I'd say it's completely unacceptable for a
<v Speaker 1>news outlet to go to someone's job and put them
<v Speaker 1>on the spot like that. But Ray Moody was a
<v Speaker 1>convicted sex offender that raped a child, so fuck them.
<v Speaker 1>In any event, The police had two potential suspects in
<v Speaker 1>Brasuwitz and Moody, but in both cases they couldn't find
<v Speaker 1>any significant evidence to link either one of them to
<v Speaker 1>Britney's disappearance. Typically, when a teenager goes missing, the truth
<v Speaker 1>about what happened to them comes out pretty quickly. Rarely
<v Speaker 1>these days do these kinds of cases drag on. But
<v Speaker 1>that was unfortunately exactly what happened here. The investigation into
<v Speaker 1>Brittany Drexel's disappearance lasted for years, all the while Brittany's
<v Speaker 1>mom pleaded for her daughter's safe return.
<v Speaker 12>Please give us back our daughter. I mean, we have
<v Speaker 12>so many people that loved Brittany and her brother and
<v Speaker 12>sister miss her dearly. It hurts me very much when
<v Speaker 12>I see her. Younger brother and sister asked me. You know,
<v Speaker 12>they say, Mommy, please bring Brittany home. We miss her,
<v Speaker 12>we love her. Brittany may be scared. I don't know
<v Speaker 12>what the you know, I don't know what they may
<v Speaker 12>have done. If someone does have her, you know, I
<v Speaker 12>want them to return her home. She's ours and we
<v Speaker 12>need her.
<v Speaker 1>In June of twenty sixteen, over seven years since Brittany
<v Speaker 1>went missing, investigators seemingly got a break in the case.
<v Speaker 1>A prison inmate and FBI informant in South Carolina came
<v Speaker 1>forward and claimed to know what happened to Britney Drexel.
<v Speaker 1>This informant told investigators that Brittany was abducted and taken
<v Speaker 1>to a drug stash house. Once there, she was raped
<v Speaker 1>and murdered.
<v Speaker 19>In open court, an FBI agent testifies an informant Salt
<v Speaker 19>and others raped the young girl at a drug stash house,
<v Speaker 19>then she was killed and her body dumped into an
<v Speaker 19>alligator pit.
<v Speaker 1>According to the FBI, their informant named twenty year old
<v Speaker 1>tim Deshaun Taylor as the culprit behind Brittany's disappearance and murder.
<v Speaker 1>Tim had a criminal history and was arrested in twenty
<v Speaker 1>eleven for acting as a getaway driver for an armed robbery.
<v Speaker 1>He pled guilty to multiple charges and was sentenced to
<v Speaker 1>eighteen years of probation, but these charges were only resolved
<v Speaker 1>in state court. After the informant named Tim accused him
<v Speaker 1>of being responsible for the killing of Brittany Drexel. The
<v Speaker 1>FBI charged Tim federally for the same crime so that
<v Speaker 1>they could arrest him and question him, which is bullshit.
<v Speaker 1>The FBI shouldn't be allowed to do that if you
<v Speaker 1>believe in the constitution. That is, in any event, just
<v Speaker 1>like Pete Broswitz and Raymond Moody before him, the media
<v Speaker 1>dug their claws into Tim DeShawn Taylor, so they.
<v Speaker 24>Arrested you for this conspiracy. Regarding this prior, he said,
<v Speaker 24>you had already been convicted of a state court. Yes, sir,
<v Speaker 24>And were they asking you about that case?
<v Speaker 9>Not at all. What were they asking about Britta Drexel?
<v Speaker 3>Did you find that straining?
<v Speaker 1>Yes, sir?
<v Speaker 3>Did you kill Britney Drexel?
<v Speaker 9>No, sir.
<v Speaker 24>Were you involved in the kidnapping of Britney Drexel. Were
<v Speaker 24>you with Britney Drexel the nighte she was she disappeared
<v Speaker 24>in April of two thousand and nine.
<v Speaker 1>No, Sir Tim claimed that before Britney Drexel's disappearance, he
<v Speaker 1>didn't even know who she was and that he had
<v Speaker 1>never been in her presence. He explained that everything he
<v Speaker 1>knew about Brittany came from the authorities and the media.
<v Speaker 24>You heard the allegations from this informant. He says he
<v Speaker 24>saw you in this stash house sexual assaulting Britney Drexel.
<v Speaker 24>You know, recounts this whole detailed story. What do you
<v Speaker 24>What do you have to say about that story?
<v Speaker 26>There's not then too much that I can say about
<v Speaker 26>the story. I just think it was not true. It's
<v Speaker 26>very very disorientated.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Forrest, why don't you tell us about your chocolates now?
<v Speaker 24>Anything that you would want to say to the family
<v Speaker 24>of Britney Drexel.
<v Speaker 9>I would tell him deeply.
<v Speaker 26>I apologize for their loss, and I sincerely do apologize
<v Speaker 26>for their loss, and I honestly hope that they find
<v Speaker 26>who've done this and give them justice. But I honestly
<v Speaker 26>don't have anything or have any information to help them,
<v Speaker 26>because I honestly don't know anything.
<v Speaker 1>Tim was unwavering in his denial, and once again, the
<v Speaker 1>authorities were unable to find any significant evidence to charge
<v Speaker 1>him with any crimes related to Britney Drexel. More than
<v Speaker 1>a decade after Britney's disappearance, the case remained unsolved and
<v Speaker 1>quite cold. The Myrtle Beach Police and the FBI still
<v Speaker 1>had no answers for Brittany's mom.
<v Speaker 20>Because I told them, I said, look, I said, Brittany
<v Speaker 20>didn't just to scare up these there.
<v Speaker 16>She's down there somewhere. I mean, it's surprising that, you know,
<v Speaker 16>none of the hunters or anything like that during hunting
<v Speaker 16>season ever came.
<v Speaker 9>Across any remains or anything like that, you know what
<v Speaker 9>I mean.
<v Speaker 16>I'm just so frustrated. I mean, at this point, it's
<v Speaker 16>just it's.
<v Speaker 12>Just I want answers, and they better start coming, you know,
<v Speaker 12>because you know, because to me, I mean, you know,
<v Speaker 12>I've been in this for a long.
<v Speaker 16>Time, right along with you guys.
<v Speaker 1>Don Drexel was desperate, and who could blame her. Her
<v Speaker 1>daughter left the house one day and never came home,
<v Speaker 1>and nobody seemed to know where she went. Or why
<v Speaker 1>what a nightmare can you imagine? In her desperation and
<v Speaker 1>given the authorities were unable to provide any answers, Dawn
<v Speaker 1>turned to the unorthodox and spoke to several self proclaimed psychics.
<v Speaker 1>One psychic told Down that Brittany was still alive and
<v Speaker 1>that she was being held captive by a clean cut
<v Speaker 1>man in his late twenties.
<v Speaker 17>She had stated it Britney or when she was reading it.
<v Speaker 17>She says she was randomly targeted. She says there was
<v Speaker 17>a man setting in his chair offering the girls.
<v Speaker 16>Offering them a joint.
<v Speaker 17>She had said something about a drugphyut in.
<v Speaker 27>The drink, but she wasn't.
<v Speaker 17>Sure if it may have been a mixed drink or
<v Speaker 17>maybe just a coke or something like that.
<v Speaker 16>She heard what she was instructed.
<v Speaker 17>He had made it, this gentleman that when she was
<v Speaker 17>talking about Hidney contacts with all three of these girls,
<v Speaker 17>he was watching her out. Okay, he's the young, he
<v Speaker 17>is clean cut, and she looks like he's in the
<v Speaker 17>age of twenty five to twenty eight. She is in
<v Speaker 17>love with her. She doesn't want to hurt her. She
<v Speaker 17>wants to make her his princess.
<v Speaker 1>I'd like to take this opportunity to say, fuck these people.
<v Speaker 1>If someone wants to play make believe, pretend they have
<v Speaker 1>magic thinking powers and con gullible people out of their money.
<v Speaker 1>Gullible usually broke people, I might add, well, that's just
<v Speaker 1>fucking gross. You're a piece of shit. Do you hear me,
<v Speaker 1>I'm talking to you, psychic, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know
<v Speaker 1>your magic crystals tell you things. I know you can
<v Speaker 1>hear the voice of your grandfather or some shit. That's
<v Speaker 1>because you're mentally ill. Got it, good, Let's continue. When
<v Speaker 1>you start blatantly lying and giving made up false hope
<v Speaker 1>to desperate parents or suffering some very very real pain,
<v Speaker 1>you've crossed the line of being a swindler, a grifter,
<v Speaker 1>a whatever you want to call it, and now you've
<v Speaker 1>become a full blown, absolute fucking monster. Shame on you
<v Speaker 1>if you even know what that word means. These so
<v Speaker 1>called psychics are sick people with no empathy, and they
<v Speaker 1>should be called out at every fucking turn. Listen to
<v Speaker 1>the desperation in Don Drexel's voice. Listen to the desperation
<v Speaker 1>of this mother who would do anything to find her
<v Speaker 1>missing daughter, and this piece of shit comes by to
<v Speaker 1>grift on that How could anyone listen to that desperation
<v Speaker 1>and decide to take advantage of it. It's just shameless.
<v Speaker 17>She's a well known, normal person.
<v Speaker 7>Believe me, I don't believe in but you know why,
<v Speaker 7>you can.
<v Speaker 16>Give me some powers of my daughter and every single
<v Speaker 16>one that we talked.
<v Speaker 17>She's alive.
<v Speaker 7>But I mean are making her? I mean I was
<v Speaker 7>watching her you see before?
<v Speaker 16>Yeah, and then we're looking into you know, your mother
<v Speaker 16>leaking her you know, I mean, you know I want
<v Speaker 16>to pay her for my yars.
<v Speaker 7>You had a name, you know.
<v Speaker 1>For thirteen years, don Drexel did all she could in
<v Speaker 1>hopes of one day being reunited with her daughter. For
<v Speaker 1>thirteen years, she searched relentlessly for answers. Then in April
<v Speaker 1>of twenty twenty two, she finally got some of those answers. Unsurprisingly,
<v Speaker 1>they didn't come from a psychic. They came from the
<v Speaker 1>girlfriend of the murderer. They came from the woman who
<v Speaker 1>was dating Brittany Drexel's killer. By April of twenty twenty two,
<v Speaker 1>thirteen years had passed since seventeen year old Britney Drexel
<v Speaker 1>went missing while on spring break in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina.
<v Speaker 1>Throughout the investigation, the local police and FBI took a
<v Speaker 1>close look at several potential suspects, one of which was
<v Speaker 1>Pete Brazowitz. Pete was twenty years old when Brittany went missing,
<v Speaker 1>and he was the last person to see her before
<v Speaker 1>she disappeared. Pete garnered a lot of suspicion through his actions.
<v Speaker 1>He left Myrtle Beach within hours of Britney's disappearance, and
<v Speaker 1>had seemingly done so in a hurry, leaving belongings and
<v Speaker 1>a hotel deposit behind. He also hired a criminal defense
<v Speaker 1>attorney when he returned to his home city of Rochester
<v Speaker 1>and New York, and seemed to show no concern for
<v Speaker 1>Britney's well being. Despite all this, authorities did eventually clear
<v Speaker 1>Pete as a potential suspect.
<v Speaker 18>Myrtle Beach police say Peter Brosowitz was one of the
<v Speaker 18>last people to see Britney Drexel before she walked out
<v Speaker 18>of the Bluewater resort and disappeared, But new emails we
<v Speaker 18>obtained detail why Myrtle Beach police say they eventually cleared him.
<v Speaker 18>Police say it wasn't Brozowitz's decision to go back to Rochester,
<v Speaker 18>and that while he did leave clothes behind, it was
<v Speaker 18>only wet bathing suits on the balcony, and the emails
<v Speaker 18>show they were at a party at Coastal Carolina, all
<v Speaker 18>while Drexel's phone was heading south. Police also found nothing
<v Speaker 18>suspicious in their room or cars. Eventually, authorities announced another
<v Speaker 18>suspect in the case.
<v Speaker 1>Years later, the FBI began investigating a young man named
<v Speaker 1>Tim DeShawn Taylor, who was named as Brittany's kidnapper and
<v Speaker 1>murderer by an FBI informant. Eventually, it was determined that
<v Speaker 1>this information was not true at all, and Tim had
<v Speaker 1>nothing to do with Britney Drexel at all. Despite this,
<v Speaker 1>the FBI never publicly set the record straight, and a
<v Speaker 1>cloud of suspicion followed Tim for years.
<v Speaker 19>Tim was never charged in the Drexel case, but for
<v Speaker 19>the next six years, the court of public opinion presumed
<v Speaker 19>he was guilty.
<v Speaker 21>They wanted so badly for this to be Timothy and
<v Speaker 21>his submedia didn't look for anybody else. It didn't look
<v Speaker 21>for the real killers.
<v Speaker 19>Britney's father was horrified that the FBI had let them
<v Speaker 19>believe Tim Taylor was responsible for all of these.
<v Speaker 3>Years the FBI specifically that they killed her.
<v Speaker 28>This is how they did and she's dead and oh yeah,
<v Speaker 28>by the way, this really didn't happen five years later.
<v Speaker 1>Think about that one.
<v Speaker 4>That's where I get heeded?
<v Speaker 29>Are you?
<v Speaker 3>And they don't even want to talk about it.
<v Speaker 1>The accusations that the FBI made about Tim reaked havoc
<v Speaker 1>on Tim's life and the lives of his family members.
<v Speaker 1>But the FBI maintained that they did nothing wrong. And
<v Speaker 1>I mean, let's face it, who do they have to
<v Speaker 1>answer to anyway, So yeah, go fuck yourself.
<v Speaker 20>It wouldn't really be anything that the FBI would need
<v Speaker 20>to apologize for because we didn't.
<v Speaker 30>We didn't leak that information.
<v Speaker 3>We're just exploring a whole investigative.
<v Speaker 19>They didn't leak the information, They set it in open
<v Speaker 19>chort and never set the record straight, even after dropping
<v Speaker 19>Tim as a suspect.
<v Speaker 21>If they would take the time, they wouldn't know us
<v Speaker 21>a lot to apologize. We lost livelihood, we lost income,
<v Speaker 21>I lost my job. They blasted us all over the world,
<v Speaker 21>and you just don't do it as somebody will walk away.
<v Speaker 1>The disappearance of Brittany Drexel had a ripple effect that
<v Speaker 1>devastated countless lives, and for over a decade there was
<v Speaker 1>still no explanation of what happened to her. Then, finally,
<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty two, Myrtle Beach detectives were able to
<v Speaker 1>crack the case. In April of that year, they were
<v Speaker 1>able to speak to a fifty four year old woman
<v Speaker 1>named Angel Vaz. According to yet another informant, there's lots
<v Speaker 1>of them. I guess maybe everybody's an informant anyway. According
<v Speaker 1>to yet another informant, during a night of heavy drinking,
<v Speaker 1>Angel confessed to killing Brittany.
<v Speaker 8>A confidential source to come forward to law enforcement and
<v Speaker 8>said that an intoxicated Angel Lass had made shockingly shocking
<v Speaker 8>admissions to them, specifically claiming that she was concerned about
<v Speaker 8>Raymond constantly being accused of things that he didn't do.
<v Speaker 8>As a matter of fact, she knows he didn't do
<v Speaker 8>it because she killed were and Raymond held hid the body.
<v Speaker 1>Angel Oz was the girlfriend of Raymond Douglas Moody, who
<v Speaker 1>was another potential suspect that the police had not crossed
<v Speaker 1>off their list. Moody was a registered sex offender who
<v Speaker 1>had spent twenty years in prison for raping a child
<v Speaker 1>in California in two thousand and nine, when Britney Drexel
<v Speaker 1>went missing. Moody was living in an apartment not far
<v Speaker 1>from where Brittany's cell phone signal died. After the police
<v Speaker 1>were made aware of the admission that Angel made about Brittany,
<v Speaker 1>they questioned her about them. At least they tried to.
<v Speaker 6>During the course of our investigation, we were able to
<v Speaker 6>interced conversation between individuals, and these individuals was the person
<v Speaker 6>that was responsible?
<v Speaker 5>Okay, okay, I saw how I'm gonna do it. I'm
<v Speaker 5>going to read to you a couple of clothes.
<v Speaker 7>What if you try to accuse you anything involved in
<v Speaker 7>and I say he didn't, Okay, I say he didn't
<v Speaker 7>know about I'm not here, you are. That's what that
<v Speaker 7>was about me. I'm straight No, I'm straightforward to I
<v Speaker 7>don't think you did, and you're not very involved in.
<v Speaker 9>It with it?
<v Speaker 7>No, I'm not getting no, please, no, I got no.
<v Speaker 1>Before investigators could read the admissions that Angel allegedly made
<v Speaker 1>to their informant, Angel stormed out of the interview room.
<v Speaker 16>No.
<v Speaker 1>Within minutes, she was convinced to go back inside, and
<v Speaker 1>the questioning continued.
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I did say what I see and I was
<v Speaker 7>talking to care and a friend of mine and I
<v Speaker 7>was highly dropping it hour and I drinking and she
<v Speaker 7>kept asking me what he's about Ray and everybody that
<v Speaker 7>I was a king and Ray. So yeah, I did
<v Speaker 7>say nothing. No, I would never heard of anybody. No, no,
<v Speaker 7>don't know, no truth. But I don't know if it
<v Speaker 7>was that night, Like.
<v Speaker 5>There's no chance of getting an information.
<v Speaker 7>Don't want to promise you with my children's life. When
<v Speaker 7>I lost the son of the guard, I don't know
<v Speaker 7>where I don't want.
<v Speaker 1>According to Angel, the only reason she confessed to killing
<v Speaker 1>Brittany was so that people would stop accusing her boyfriend
<v Speaker 1>Raymond Moody. Sounds like a solid plan. Angel claimed that
<v Speaker 1>she had no idea what happened to Brittany, but based
<v Speaker 1>on her earlier admissions, the FBI pursued her and conducted
<v Speaker 1>another search of the apartment that she shared with Moody.
<v Speaker 1>During that search, something interesting happened.
<v Speaker 8>Nothing ab evidentry value was particularly found in the search
<v Speaker 8>warm and what did happen is there was a face
<v Speaker 8>to face conversation with mister Mudy and that BI agent's
<v Speaker 8>concerning the direction of the investigation and the effort of
<v Speaker 8>building a case towards MISSUS laws based on that, mister
<v Speaker 8>Moody had retained an attorney and agreed to coming to
<v Speaker 8>how to set down discussion with.
<v Speaker 3>Law enforcement OFSTROS concerning his involvement in.
<v Speaker 1>That Since the FEDS were pursuing his girlfriend, a now
<v Speaker 1>sixty two year old Raymond Moody finally decided to come clean.
<v Speaker 1>Throughout multiple interviews with authorities, Moody described the night that
<v Speaker 1>he came upon Britney Drexel.
<v Speaker 3>He told this story.
<v Speaker 5>The only person I've ever told this story too is
<v Speaker 5>my angel. Never even knew the real story.
<v Speaker 2>Anyway. Well, I was going down Ocean Boulevard and very
<v Speaker 2>slow driving. I was driving and uh, I'm pretty walking.
<v Speaker 2>She and I saw the jets were working on walking
<v Speaker 2>on the sidewalking. I was smoking pot. She knows that
<v Speaker 2>walked in through the dorm said.
<v Speaker 30>Something about us.
<v Speaker 3>I was likely we.
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, you want some?
<v Speaker 3>Sure?
<v Speaker 16>Damn?
<v Speaker 3>She hopped right in her back.
<v Speaker 5>Problem.
<v Speaker 3>Did she asked for a rider? Did you ask her
<v Speaker 3>for and you asked.
<v Speaker 4>Her if you wanted to ride?
<v Speaker 2>You remember, I was sure she might required this.
<v Speaker 3>Okay, She's sure when she had a vehicle with you know,
<v Speaker 3>it was for bad purpose.
<v Speaker 4>No, not at all.
<v Speaker 5>Had you even crossed my mind?
<v Speaker 9>Okay?
<v Speaker 1>According to Moody, he was driving on the main Myrtle
<v Speaker 1>Beach Strip with his girlfriend Angel, who was in the
<v Speaker 1>passenger seat. The traffic was so bad that night that
<v Speaker 1>they were only moving at a walking pace. Moody claimed
<v Speaker 1>that Brittany noticed them and from the sidewalk jokingly called
<v Speaker 1>them out for smoking pot. When Moody offered Britney some weed,
<v Speaker 1>she willingly climbed into the back seat of his suv. Supposedly,
<v Speaker 1>Angel didn't have a problem with this because she and
<v Speaker 1>Moody had an open relationship.
<v Speaker 5>To other plays like were you an Angel would be
<v Speaker 5>there's nothing wrong with that.
<v Speaker 14>She paid up, grew and we had done that before,
<v Speaker 14>so we ended up we end up relatively open entire relationship.
<v Speaker 14>We have very strust in relationship.
<v Speaker 1>Now that Moody was cooperating with the authorities, Angel Vaz
<v Speaker 1>did as well, and she also provided her version of
<v Speaker 1>what happened that night. According to both Angel and Moody,
<v Speaker 1>after Brittany got into the suv, the three of them
<v Speaker 1>drove to Georgetown. During that drive, they collectively got to
<v Speaker 1>know each other.
<v Speaker 7>I know there was a conversation like, hey, my name
<v Speaker 7>is so and so.
<v Speaker 5>You know, we introduced your sale.
<v Speaker 3>And then she said about where she's just from River,
<v Speaker 3>New York. That's about he is.
<v Speaker 6>And she says about where she.
<v Speaker 3>Went to Soul.
<v Speaker 7>What did show? She said, she was like eighteen or
<v Speaker 7>something like that, and you know, but it was.
<v Speaker 5>Just like manner party a little bit with this. We
<v Speaker 5>get some cocaine, you know.
<v Speaker 9>She sure.
<v Speaker 2>Driving, We're just driving around, was fucking talking. Yeah, I
<v Speaker 2>went right in Georgetown, went right. She spot where we
<v Speaker 2>used to camp out down by the river.
<v Speaker 1>Moody, Angel and Brittany arrived at a desolate campsite in Georgetown.
<v Speaker 1>Not long after they got their Angel recalled that her
<v Speaker 1>son had the keys to her apartment and she needed
<v Speaker 1>to get them before the night got ony. Later, I
<v Speaker 1>called my.
<v Speaker 9>Son, or he called me.
<v Speaker 3>I can't remember the called you, but he had the
<v Speaker 3>keys to the apartment. So after a little bit I
<v Speaker 3>walked back to call. We all walked back to where
<v Speaker 3>the like the.
<v Speaker 31>Car ripon parks and I said I had to meet
<v Speaker 31>him to get the keys, and h I said, out
<v Speaker 31>went back in a little while, and nobody said anything.
<v Speaker 32>Doesn't know all from anybody, Brian, And so you'll get
<v Speaker 32>in a car with her and you drive out fine,
<v Speaker 32>and then you have to leave, right, So what is
<v Speaker 32>that conversation?
<v Speaker 3>Well, I'd just say him in her I was like, yeah,
<v Speaker 3>well we're I'll staying there.
<v Speaker 7>When I left, I just said it up.
<v Speaker 12>I had you go to meet my son to get
<v Speaker 12>keys before he went back over to the races, and
<v Speaker 12>I just wanted me and.
<v Speaker 3>I got a car and drove off.
<v Speaker 1>Angel drove away, leaving seventeen year old Brittany alone with
<v Speaker 1>a forty nine year old convicted child rapist. Within ten
<v Speaker 1>minutes of Angel leaving, Raymond Moody was raping Brittany.
<v Speaker 5>When I made a decision? Did you have any inclination
<v Speaker 5>at that point? When Angel left?
<v Speaker 25>What was going to happen next?
<v Speaker 5>What can you describe it all? Just kind of what that?
<v Speaker 29>What happened there?
<v Speaker 25>Was it?
<v Speaker 3>I want the words in your mouth?
<v Speaker 25>But was it?
<v Speaker 23>Sunnan?
<v Speaker 9>There's something just like.
<v Speaker 5>I knew that I was that I wasn't really like
<v Speaker 5>I have that character at.
<v Speaker 1>Moody described that Brittany was terrified as he forced her
<v Speaker 1>to remove her clothes and that she tried to resist
<v Speaker 1>him as he raped her. When the assault ended, Moody
<v Speaker 1>realized that what he had done was probably going to
<v Speaker 1>put him back in prison for the rest of his life.
<v Speaker 1>The only way he might be able to protect himself
<v Speaker 1>was to silence Brittany forever. So he strangled her.
<v Speaker 25>To death and they take her clothes off.
<v Speaker 5>He is she saying?
<v Speaker 25>Specifically at that time she still did you start the
<v Speaker 25>aspxr Did something happen to stop that?
<v Speaker 23>I did?
<v Speaker 7>Yeah?
<v Speaker 25>Yeah?
<v Speaker 14>Do you remember what she was like at a point
<v Speaker 14>after you rader?
<v Speaker 9>Or she.
<v Speaker 5>And then afterwards it happened?
<v Speaker 9>Did she?
<v Speaker 29>Did?
<v Speaker 14>She say?
<v Speaker 9>Like? What cost? Did it?
<v Speaker 5>Other than VERA had began?
<v Speaker 14>Because I started just playing the whole thing through my mind?
<v Speaker 14>What was gonna have I was you know that a
<v Speaker 14>prison again and the rest of my life? When you
<v Speaker 14>strangled with Brittany with it? Did you use your hands
<v Speaker 14>or did you use part of her clothing?
<v Speaker 5>Or did you have to hold her down at all?
<v Speaker 5>Or was she just pretty compliant or traveling?
<v Speaker 1>Brittany fought for her life, but Moody overpowered her. He
<v Speaker 1>wrapped his hands around her neck and squeezed until Brittany's
<v Speaker 1>life left her body. She was dead. Realizing that Angel
<v Speaker 1>would be returning at any minute. Moody carried Brittany to
<v Speaker 1>a nearby wooded area and dumped her behind a.
<v Speaker 5>Tree out where they had of like roway treees and stuff,
<v Speaker 5>you know. And true, I was all shook up because
<v Speaker 5>what had happened. I didn't want to do.
<v Speaker 14>I'm trying to her an almah shits back. So I
<v Speaker 14>came out this story at I can't remember exactly that
<v Speaker 14>she hooked up show with her friends of the phone.
<v Speaker 5>And they came and picked her up.
<v Speaker 14>When I got to the.
<v Speaker 3>Pole yard, he was standing in the parking lot of
<v Speaker 3>the pole yard. I asked him where she was.
<v Speaker 28>He said that she.
<v Speaker 7>Called somebody or somebody called her.
<v Speaker 3>Was there a way I don't remember, uh.
<v Speaker 6>And she left and I said okay, And we left
<v Speaker 6>the pole yard and went to the apartment.
<v Speaker 3>Do you remember anything about after, like after you got
<v Speaker 3>to the apartment.
<v Speaker 16>I would be.
<v Speaker 1>After Angel went to bed. Moody returned to the scene
<v Speaker 1>of the crime, collected Brittany, and took her body to
<v Speaker 1>a heavily wooded area about two miles from his apartment.
<v Speaker 1>Once there, he dug a shallow grave and buried Brittany.
<v Speaker 1>Angel claimed that She initially believed Moody when she said
<v Speaker 1>that Brittany's friends picked her up, but she began questioning
<v Speaker 1>that story when Brittany's face appeared on the news.
<v Speaker 31>Never made me suspicious one a little bit until things
<v Speaker 31>came on TV and I'm like, okay, what's going on?
<v Speaker 3>And he said, I told you was she there? And
<v Speaker 3>that was my answer I got every time I want
<v Speaker 3>to say anything about it, because even to this day,
<v Speaker 3>if I asked him anything, he would eat straight out
<v Speaker 3>tell me was she there when you got there? And
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, no, she wasn't there, And he said, I
<v Speaker 3>told you she left. He never said one word about
<v Speaker 3>the night or anything after that.
<v Speaker 1>If Angel's story was true, it means that she kept
<v Speaker 1>quiet for thirteen years and never told police that she
<v Speaker 1>saw Brittany on the night that she disappeared. Nonetheless, the
<v Speaker 1>agreement that Moody and Angel made with the authorities was
<v Speaker 1>that they would cooperate if and only if Angel didn't
<v Speaker 1>face any consequences. Of course, there's always consequences.
<v Speaker 2>I did this, Angel would have been a victim of
<v Speaker 2>mind for a long fucking time.
<v Speaker 5>Okay, Yeah, of course that's the kind a piece of
<v Speaker 5>shit that I am. I didn't turn into a good
<v Speaker 5>person until.
<v Speaker 25>Two.
<v Speaker 3>I can be a man of my word, and you
<v Speaker 3>all can be a man of your word.
<v Speaker 9>You can be a man of your word.
<v Speaker 5>Then I'll shay, I'll take him. I really lock you
<v Speaker 5>because I feel like you in an org. Never get
<v Speaker 5>that body.
<v Speaker 1>Moody claimed that the recent birth of his grandchild transformed
<v Speaker 1>him into a good man all of a sudden. It's
<v Speaker 1>kind of like when some of you say I can't
<v Speaker 1>listen to those stories about kids because I have kids.
<v Speaker 1>You're assuming that everybody that doesn't have kids doesn't give
<v Speaker 1>a shit. It's kind of insulting. Anyway, This so called
<v Speaker 1>good man used the hidden location of his seventeen year
<v Speaker 1>old murder victim as a bargaining chip to save his
<v Speaker 1>own ass. Raymond Moody was, is, and will always be
<v Speaker 1>a disgusting and evil piece of shit.
<v Speaker 8>After that interview with law enforcement was completed, he agreed
<v Speaker 8>to take investigators most of the Pullyard and point of
<v Speaker 8>the campsite locations, and he agreed to go to the
<v Speaker 8>area off Penny rail Road and pointed to investigators still
<v Speaker 8>location where he placed instructures. Morever remains her mortal remains
<v Speaker 8>will prove be on a reasonable doubt to be hers
<v Speaker 8>through general records as well as DNA testing.
<v Speaker 23>Tonight from Myrtle Beach, investigators say they have found the
<v Speaker 23>remains of missing teenager Brittany Drexel. It has been thirteen
<v Speaker 23>years since she disappeared. Police arresting a man last week
<v Speaker 23>who they say was once a person of interest in
<v Speaker 23>the case. Well today they confirmed that man Raymond Moody,
<v Speaker 23>is responsible for her death.
<v Speaker 4>This is the case you warn people about. It's your
<v Speaker 4>child walking down the street and being snatched up by
<v Speaker 4>someone with malevolent homicidal proclivities. Raymond Moody had no prior
<v Speaker 4>connection to Britney Drexel.
<v Speaker 1>In May of twenty twenty two, thirteen years after Brittany
<v Speaker 1>left for Myrtle Beach, her mother, Don Drexel, brought Brittany
<v Speaker 1>back home to Rochester, New York.
<v Speaker 12>I've been waiting for this day for thirteen years, ever
<v Speaker 12>since the you know, the day Brittany disappeared.
<v Speaker 3>I never thought we would get to this place.
<v Speaker 12>And we're finally here, and now I can get Brittany
<v Speaker 12>back and lay her arrest.
<v Speaker 1>Dawn finally got some answers about what happened to her daughter,
<v Speaker 1>but not everything made sense? How could it? The respective
<v Speaker 1>versions of events given by Angel and Moody were mostly consistent,
<v Speaker 1>but there seemed to be some potential contradictions in what
<v Speaker 1>they told police. For one, both Moody and Angel told
<v Speaker 1>investigators that Brittany initially took an interest in them because
<v Speaker 1>they were smoking pot. Yet according to her friends and
<v Speaker 1>her boyfriend, Brittany didn't smoke weed at all, and she
<v Speaker 1>was one of.
<v Speaker 9>The party ear that I do when you say partyville.
<v Speaker 9>Were just talking drinking or we talked in a little
<v Speaker 9>bit of everything or anything.
<v Speaker 11>Everything was probably she never never smoked on marijuana, never
<v Speaker 11>done anything.
<v Speaker 1>Also, according to one of the girlfriends who went to
<v Speaker 1>Myrtle Beach with Brittany, when the option to smoke weed
<v Speaker 1>was offered, Brittany declined.
<v Speaker 14>I'm not an I don't know.
<v Speaker 15>I actually asked her a professional figure and I asked
<v Speaker 15>her as a J.
<v Speaker 21>Saul.
<v Speaker 7>She was like wow, that she show me.
<v Speaker 5>Anything, She's like wow.
<v Speaker 1>If Brittany did get into Moody's SUV willingly, it seems
<v Speaker 1>very unlikely that marijuana was her motivation. It's possible that
<v Speaker 1>Moody simply offered Brittany a ride and she accepted, but
<v Speaker 1>it's also possible that she was abducted off the street.
<v Speaker 1>If Brittany was abducted, it means that Angel was a
<v Speaker 1>willing participant in the crime and now she had immunity.
<v Speaker 1>Something else that didn't make any sense was that Brittany
<v Speaker 1>didn't text or call anyone while she was with Moody
<v Speaker 1>an Angel. This was extremely out of character for her.
<v Speaker 1>Brittany was constantly on her phone like most teenagers, and
<v Speaker 1>almost always texting her boyfriend. Yet both Moody and Angel
<v Speaker 1>claim that they never prevented Brittany from using her phone.
<v Speaker 3>Did she have her phone the whole time? Or did
<v Speaker 3>someone take her phone and she hit an answery?
<v Speaker 5>I never told her one time.
<v Speaker 2>She didn't answer if he never told her, she'd been answering.
<v Speaker 3>Okay, Now, her phone riding a couple of times, but
<v Speaker 3>she didn't answer it, and but she said it was
<v Speaker 3>her boyfriend or something and she would call him.
<v Speaker 1>Was set back her again. These potential problems with their
<v Speaker 1>respective stories suggest that Angel may have acted as Moody's accomplice,
<v Speaker 1>but investigators were able to use Angel's phone records to
<v Speaker 1>confirm that she did in fact leave the campsite where
<v Speaker 1>Brittany was supposedly murdered and returned a short while later,
<v Speaker 1>So part of her story seemed to be true. Other
<v Speaker 1>than that, everything else remains a mystery. Did Brittany get
<v Speaker 1>into Moody's suv willingly or was she abducted off the street.
<v Speaker 1>If she did go willingly, why maybe she was tired
<v Speaker 1>of walking and accepted a ride. Maybe she felt she
<v Speaker 1>was safe because there was another adult female in the
<v Speaker 1>passenger seat. But if that was the case, why did
<v Speaker 1>she suddenly stop using her phone? Why didn't she tell
<v Speaker 1>her boyfriend that she had accepted a ride from two strangers?
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't really add up.
<v Speaker 8>Unfortunately, we may never never know exactly what happened that
<v Speaker 8>day because mister Exel can't tell us what happened. So
<v Speaker 8>to some degree we are compelled to listens to the
<v Speaker 8>version is provided by mister Moody, and then it's incumbent
<v Speaker 8>upon law enforcement to determine the credibility or not on
<v Speaker 8>certain points and not certain points.
<v Speaker 1>The consensus among law enforcements seemed to be that Brittany
<v Speaker 1>did get into Moody's suv voluntarily, but the only thing
<v Speaker 1>they could say with certainty was that Moody did murder
<v Speaker 1>Brittany Drexel. His confession and the fact that he led
<v Speaker 1>investigators to the body were the final pieces that allowed
<v Speaker 1>investigators to close the case and hand things off to prosecutors. Ultimately,
<v Speaker 1>Moody didn't fight the criminal charges against him. He pled
<v Speaker 1>guilty to kidnapping and murder, and with those pleas came
<v Speaker 1>the inevitable impact statements from Brittany's parents.
<v Speaker 3>When I found out that she went missing, I didn't
<v Speaker 3>know what to think. I didn't know. I just felt wrong.
<v Speaker 30>I mean, I'm gonna be here, adopted did I won't her?
<v Speaker 33>At first I thought she would be found because like
<v Speaker 33>Don don and mentioned that she was going down there
<v Speaker 33>in searching, They're going to bring her home, and that's
<v Speaker 33>what I thought would happen. However, days turned the months,
<v Speaker 33>and those months turned into years, years of torture, wondering
<v Speaker 33>where my daughter was. Now, thirteen years later, I find
<v Speaker 33>out the horrible, disgusting and senseless.
<v Speaker 3>Way she was abducted and murdered.
<v Speaker 28>Every part of my being wants to say and do
<v Speaker 28>something about that, but my heart knows that I will not,
<v Speaker 28>and Brittany would not want me to go to jail
<v Speaker 28>over that, so I internalize it.
<v Speaker 30>That's all I do is it's sickening. The defendant was
<v Speaker 30>and is, and I'm sorry, a perverted, sick monster.
<v Speaker 1>I think we can all agree that Brittany's adoptive dad
<v Speaker 1>has absolutely nothing to apologize for. After Chad Drexel addressed
<v Speaker 1>the court, it was Brittany's mom's turn to do the same.
<v Speaker 31>For thirteen years, I have searched for Brittany and suffered
<v Speaker 31>the loss of a child. Today we know the truth,
<v Speaker 31>and today, mister Moody, you face the consequences for that.
<v Speaker 3>That's all I have left.
<v Speaker 31>That's all we have left after what you did to her.
<v Speaker 31>Brittany was a beautiful seventeen year old with her full
<v Speaker 31>life ahead of her from the moment I gave birth
<v Speaker 31>to her.
<v Speaker 3>Brittany was my life. She had a beautiful soul. She
<v Speaker 3>was our soccer star.
<v Speaker 31>She was loved by everyone in our family, by her
<v Speaker 31>friend's classmates.
<v Speaker 3>In an entire community.
<v Speaker 31>What gave you the right to put your hands on
<v Speaker 31>my daughter? You are a serial rapist and a child predator.
<v Speaker 31>The criminal justice system has failed my daughter. As it
<v Speaker 31>continues to fail so many other victims, and frankly, mister Moody,
<v Speaker 31>it failed you because you never should have been released
<v Speaker 31>from prison. The loss of my daughter has ignited a
<v Speaker 31>fire and meat and set me on a mission to
<v Speaker 31>strip away the rights and freedoms of people like you.
<v Speaker 31>My daughter's tragic and senseless murder has inspired me. Britney's
<v Speaker 31>life and memory are now the driving force behind the
<v Speaker 31>initiative to make changes in sex offender laws and to
<v Speaker 31>keep monsters like you where they belong, in cages so
<v Speaker 31>they can never harm again.
<v Speaker 1>Raymond Moody will indeed spend the rest of his life
<v Speaker 1>in a cage, which is exactly where he should have
<v Speaker 1>remained after being convicted the first time for raping a child.
<v Speaker 1>For fuck's sake, how are we not electing better people
<v Speaker 1>to run this shindig. In the case of Britney Drexel,
<v Speaker 1>Moody was given two consecutive sentences, thirty years for kidnapping
<v Speaker 1>and another thirty years for murder. If Moody wants to
<v Speaker 1>see the outside of a prison, he'll need to live
<v Speaker 1>to be one hundred and twenty two years old. Good luck,
<v Speaker 1>shit bag. The Britney Drexel case took thirteen years to solve,
<v Speaker 1>and that long investigation, as well as its resolution, offers
<v Speaker 1>plenty of lessons and takeaways. For one, the general population
<v Speaker 1>is way too quick to presume guilt. The mild association
<v Speaker 1>that Pete Brozowitz had with Brittany Drexel has all but
<v Speaker 1>defined his life even to this day, and despite the
<v Speaker 1>resolution of the case, you can't Google him without seeing
<v Speaker 1>his photo next to a picture of Britney Drexel. There
<v Speaker 1>are countless blogs about him, probably a bunch of Facebook groups,
<v Speaker 1>and I can't even imagine what's on Reddit. Many of
<v Speaker 1>the authors of these comment areas are completely certain that
<v Speaker 1>Pete murdered Brittany despite all the evidence. Okay, okay, granted,
<v Speaker 1>Pete didn't do himself any favors. I mean, during his
<v Speaker 1>media interviews he came across as arrogant and uncaring. He
<v Speaker 1>was really easy to dislike. But then again, what twenty
<v Speaker 1>year old isn't a little self centered and kind of
<v Speaker 1>an asshole. I mean, I haven't met one yet. Also,
<v Speaker 1>Pete was in a no win situation. If he feigned
<v Speaker 1>sympathy and offered to help, he would have been accused
<v Speaker 1>of trying to get inside information about the case. Pete
<v Speaker 1>was crossed off the potential suspect list very early on
<v Speaker 1>in the investigation, and frankly, the authorities should have made
<v Speaker 1>more of an effort to make that clear. The same
<v Speaker 1>is also true for Tim DeShawn Taylor, but in his
<v Speaker 1>case things were much worse. Not only had the court
<v Speaker 1>of public opinion pretty much convicted him, but so did
<v Speaker 1>the FBI. Tim committed a robbery before he was investigated
<v Speaker 1>for possibly murdering Brittany. He pled guilty to that robbery
<v Speaker 1>charge in state court and was sentenced. When that kind
<v Speaker 1>of thing happens, the FEDS should not be allowed to
<v Speaker 1>reuse the same crime as leverage against someone and charge
<v Speaker 1>them again. That's a very very dirty practice, and the
<v Speaker 1>FBI knows it. But again, who's going to stop them anyway. Finally,
<v Speaker 1>and perhaps the most frustrating element of this case is
<v Speaker 1>that Raymond Moody was a registered sex offender and a
<v Speaker 1>previously convicted child rapist. Once again, we have a case
<v Speaker 1>where a predator is released from prison and surprise, surprise,
<v Speaker 1>they sexually abuse another child. It's almost like we can
<v Speaker 1>predict that it's going to happen. It's almost like it's
<v Speaker 1>a given. It's almost like we've known this for decades. Huh.
<v Speaker 1>This is a complicated issue that we have covered extensively
<v Speaker 1>in prior episodes of this show, and there are many
<v Speaker 1>conflicting opinions on how child rapists should be dealt with.
<v Speaker 1>A wood chipper is a popular suggestion, But one thing
<v Speaker 1>is clear. The system we have in place right now
<v Speaker 1>simply isn't working, and our kids are paying the price
<v Speaker 1>for that failure. Again, why pay for a safety net
<v Speaker 1>if there's no safety In this particular case, seventeen year
<v Speaker 1>old Britney Drexel paid the ultimate price. She paid with
<v Speaker 1>her life, her parents paid with their grief. And until
<v Speaker 1>we make reforms to the way that our government handles
<v Speaker 1>child sex offenders, this kind of thing is going to
<v Speaker 1>continue to happen again and again again. And you could
<v Speaker 1>be anywhere in the country, anywhere, because once these predators
<v Speaker 1>are released in whatever state they're released in, they travel
<v Speaker 1>to whatever state they want to and maybe that's where
<v Speaker 1>your child is. Maybe one of those times it happens again,
<v Speaker 1>it'll involve a child that you know, Maybe, just maybe
<v Speaker 1>it'll be your child. And I'm not saying that to
<v Speaker 1>scare you. I'm not saying that to scare monger. I'm
<v Speaker 1>saying because it's fucking reality. If you look around for
<v Speaker 1>half a second, it's just the world we live in now.
<v Speaker 1>Bad decisions lead to bad outcomes, and here we are.
<v Speaker 1>The Drexels were a typical suburban family, and the events
<v Speaker 1>that led to Britney ending up in Myrtle Beach is
<v Speaker 1>a story as old as time. She lied to her
<v Speaker 1>mom about where she was. Kids do that all the time.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, hell, I did it. All my friends did it.
<v Speaker 1>I don't know anybody who didn't do it. Actually, now
<v Speaker 1>that I think about it, everybody lies to their parents.
<v Speaker 1>Everybody goes out and sneaks out and does stuff when
<v Speaker 1>they're a teenager that they shouldn't be doing.
<v Speaker 14>So.
<v Speaker 1>The thought that it can't happen to you is a
<v Speaker 1>dumb one, no matter how good your kid is. Usually
<v Speaker 1>when kids lie about their whereabouts, things don't end badly
<v Speaker 1>like they did this time. But every once in a
<v Speaker 1>while a monster comes along and waits for the perfect
<v Speaker 1>opportunity to strike on their prey. The frustrating part is
<v Speaker 1>that it's not just any monster. It's a monster we
<v Speaker 1>can see coming. It's a monster that our laws and
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