Nickelback: Are They Worth the Hate?

<v Speaker 1>This is Jeff Johnson from a film by podcast and
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<v Speaker 2>Okay, ladies and gentlemen. Here at the Sureley You Can't
<v Speaker 2>Be Serious Podcast. We try to stay a political but
<v Speaker 2>there is an important event coming up and you guys
<v Speaker 2>really have to know what our stance is on this,
<v Speaker 2>and we're going to give it to you later on
<v Speaker 2>in this podcast. But this is a decision that everybody
<v Speaker 2>should make. It's very important and even though normally we
<v Speaker 2>stay political, we have to take a stance on this.
<v Speaker 2>We need you to decide by the end of this
<v Speaker 2>episode do you love Nickelback or do you hate them?
<v Speaker 3>Going on and.
<v Speaker 2>Hello everybody, we are back with the Shirley You Can't
<v Speaker 2>Be Serious Podcast, Here to talk about Nickelback. On our
<v Speaker 2>Are They Worth the Hate series, we have covered Billie
<v Speaker 2>Vanilli and on that one we decided they were not
<v Speaker 2>worth the hate. We will be covering Creed next week's right,
<v Speaker 2>asking the big question are they worth the hate? Nickelback
<v Speaker 2>was the number two spot for the most hated bands,
<v Speaker 2>according to Rolling Stone.
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to show my cards, but that is
<v Speaker 1>absolutely ludicrous, dye.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So if you are joining us for this podcast,
<v Speaker 2>and you know you're not just your standard fan. Even
<v Speaker 2>if you are just our standard fan, you are probably
<v Speaker 2>one of three things. You are either someone who loathes Nickelback,
<v Speaker 2>or you like them a lot, or you're on the fence.
<v Speaker 2>Maybe you haven't really given it much thought, but you
<v Speaker 2>really don't know why everybody hates Nickelback, and so you're
<v Speaker 2>here to find that out. And so whatever camp you're
<v Speaker 2>in on that one, let me just ask you a question. Okay,
<v Speaker 2>are you a follower or do you listen to music
<v Speaker 2>with an open mind and make decisions for yourself? Yes,
<v Speaker 2>Because if you're among the group of people hate Nickelback,
<v Speaker 2>you might be somebody who says something like when asked
<v Speaker 2>the question why do you hate them, you might be
<v Speaker 2>somebody who says something like, well, because they're formulaic or
<v Speaker 2>because they're vacuous. Right, So clue number one. You said
<v Speaker 2>they're formulaic. Can you name me a band that's not formulaic?
<v Speaker 2>I mean ac DC, Yeah, every hugely formula completely formulae
<v Speaker 2>Bon Jovi, Motley, cru Black and Beyond, Metallica very formulaic,
<v Speaker 2>but their songs are incredible, right, Okay, tell me what
<v Speaker 2>the formula is that they're following him. It's so freaking easy.
<v Speaker 2>Why aren't you going and making millions of dollars playing music?
<v Speaker 1>Hey, that formula sold fifty million albums.
<v Speaker 2>D Then the next one, vacuum? Did you just pull
<v Speaker 2>out the dictionary for that one?
<v Speaker 1>If you ever listened to Doctor Phil Good, for example,
<v Speaker 1>there's a couple of songs on there there are about
<v Speaker 1>nothing but strippers.
<v Speaker 2>Are the songs meaningless? Yes? Are some of them less
<v Speaker 2>than meaningless. I could pull a handful of songs by
<v Speaker 2>Nickelback and say, compare these to all of the Van
<v Speaker 2>Halen songs written from nineteen seventy eight to nineteen eighty four,
<v Speaker 2>and you tell me which is more vacuous. David Lee
<v Speaker 2>Roth was deliberately vacuous in the lyrics that he would
<v Speaker 2>write to those songs. These are not reasons to hate
<v Speaker 2>the band. You don't like them personally, Yeah, Hey, they
<v Speaker 2>got into some trouble here and there. What frickin' band
<v Speaker 2>do you know that didn't have somebody get in trouble. Okay,
<v Speaker 2>so I guess I've tipped my hand as well. Obviously
<v Speaker 2>we have a concern about this, but we do need
<v Speaker 2>to listen to this with an open mind. I don't
<v Speaker 2>love Taylor Swift, but there's a handful of songs that
<v Speaker 2>I've listened to and I'm like, oh, this is good.
<v Speaker 2>I like this song.
<v Speaker 1>You can listen to her music and go I understand
<v Speaker 1>why she's very popular.
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, she has found something that people like, and Nickelback
<v Speaker 2>found something that people liked, and because so many people
<v Speaker 2>liked it, they became hated.
<v Speaker 1>That's ridiculous. Chad Kroger sat down and dissected popular songs
<v Speaker 1>and said, why is this song popular? What can I
<v Speaker 1>learn from it? How can I make my songs better
<v Speaker 1>from it? And it worked like a friggin charm and
<v Speaker 1>people hate him for that. That's ludicrous.
<v Speaker 2>So, guys, we're going to jump into basically what we're
<v Speaker 2>calling the ten songs that you got to know by
<v Speaker 2>Nickelback that you got to look at and go is
<v Speaker 2>this worthy of the hate? We're going to go chronologically
<v Speaker 2>from the earliest to the most recent that we have picked.
<v Speaker 1>They came out when we had young kids, and you know,
<v Speaker 1>radio was starting to become less important to me, and
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't watching MTV. I had little kid. I mean,
<v Speaker 1>what were we doing. I told you and Amanda Janic
<v Speaker 1>that I might be the president of the Nicoback Fan
<v Speaker 1>Club of Norman, Oklahoma after going through.
<v Speaker 2>These Yeah, this band, just as a brief overview. They
<v Speaker 2>are from a tiny little town in Canada called Hannah,
<v Speaker 2>population about twenty three hundred people, teeny tiny and it's flat.
<v Speaker 2>I'm already with these guys because we live in Oklahoma, right.
<v Speaker 2>These guys were born in the seventies, just like us.
<v Speaker 2>They're putting together a little high school band in the
<v Speaker 2>early nineties, trying their best to get some shows, playing
<v Speaker 2>cover songs of Led Zeppelin and Metallica. That's exactly what
<v Speaker 2>I was doing in the early nineties. That's exactly what
<v Speaker 2>I was doing. These guys could be you, Yeah, they could.
<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you my buddy Cameron Cameron Accord Patreon. Remember
<v Speaker 1>he's from Alberta. I texted him the other day, I said,
<v Speaker 1>have you ever been to Hannah? And he said no?
<v Speaker 1>And I said why on? He's like, I would have
<v Speaker 1>no reason to go there.
<v Speaker 2>There's not yeah. Like they talked about how it was
<v Speaker 2>awful when you broke a guitar string because there was
<v Speaker 2>nowhere to go to buy new guitar strings. You had
<v Speaker 2>to go find somebody else who played a guitar and say, please, can't.
<v Speaker 2>I'll give you five bucks for an e Just give
<v Speaker 2>me an Eastream please. They said it was so flat
<v Speaker 2>that you could watch your dog run away for a
<v Speaker 2>couple weeks.
<v Speaker 1>Did you watch the documentary on Netflix?
<v Speaker 2>I did.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, It's fantastic, Okay, I totally enjoyed it. I thought
<v Speaker 1>it was a lot of fun. These are guys that
<v Speaker 1>we could hang out talk movies and music with.
<v Speaker 2>They put out a couple of albums and they weren't successful.
<v Speaker 1>That's right, they were initially they were not.
<v Speaker 2>As a matter of fact, even after they got signed
<v Speaker 2>by a very small record label. Roadrunner is the name
<v Speaker 2>of the record label. Their biggest name was Typo Negative.
<v Speaker 2>Do you remember Typo Negative? I do too. They were
<v Speaker 2>never huge, right, And if that's the biggest guy you got,
<v Speaker 2>that's not much.
<v Speaker 1>Let's camp out there for a second. Because if you're
<v Speaker 1>a heavy metal label, your peers aren't these heavy metal
<v Speaker 1>bands and your nickelback you're not going to be popular
<v Speaker 1>with the other crazy, heavy metal, insane guys.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, there may have been a few guys that
<v Speaker 2>had some issues with them, but as the owner of
<v Speaker 2>the record label put it, it was like, guys, these
<v Speaker 2>guys are keeping the lights on forces right, but they weren't. Initially,
<v Speaker 2>they had an album that did very badly. As a
<v Speaker 2>matter of fact, they lost money. The record label lost
<v Speaker 2>a lot of money. Had they been on a major label,
<v Speaker 2>they would have been cut loose and we never would
<v Speaker 2>have heard from them again. But they said, hey, guys,
<v Speaker 2>it's okay, We're going to do one more album, and
<v Speaker 2>this one just needs to be a hit. Don't make
<v Speaker 2>some money, go go give us something that's a hit.
<v Speaker 2>And on that album there was a little song that
<v Speaker 2>we're about to jump into right now.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So that album that you talked about was actually
<v Speaker 1>their third album. That album is called Silver Side Up.
<v Speaker 1>The song is how You Remind Me.
<v Speaker 4>Never made it as a wise man. I couldn't cut
<v Speaker 4>in as a poor man stealing it. I oft living
<v Speaker 4>like a blind man. I'm six, simone out of sense.
<v Speaker 3>Some fealing in.
<v Speaker 4>This is album You Remind Me, This is You Remind Me?
<v Speaker 3>Really okay.
<v Speaker 1>This song was released July seventeenth, two thousand and one.
<v Speaker 1>It reached number one on the Hot one hundred and
<v Speaker 1>was the lead single for their third album, Silver Side Up.
<v Speaker 1>That album was released September eleventh, two thousand and one.
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you remember, but there's a little
<v Speaker 1>something big that happened on that day, right, and a
<v Speaker 1>lot of people tie this song kind of with the
<v Speaker 1>memories of the World Trade Center disaster.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, so this song is considered their signature song.
<v Speaker 2>Rock Chad Kroger is writing this song, right, and he's
<v Speaker 2>just at his house. He's just got an acoustic guitar.
<v Speaker 2>He starts kind of figuring it out, new linen out,
<v Speaker 2>and he goes over to their lead guitarist house, Ryan Peak,
<v Speaker 2>and he says, Hey, Ryan, I'm gonna play this for you.
<v Speaker 2>Tell me if it sucks or not. That's it, right,
<v Speaker 2>And so he starts playing it and Ryan is like, yeah, no,
<v Speaker 2>that's yeah, that's that's pretty good. Ryan's wife is up
<v Speaker 2>in their loft and she's like, that's a hit. That's
<v Speaker 2>a hit right there. Ye, she called it.
<v Speaker 1>She I mean, we say a hit. I mean it's
<v Speaker 1>the most played song from two thousand and one to
<v Speaker 1>two thousand and nine streamed over one point two million times.
<v Speaker 2>In two thousand and two, the rumor is there was
<v Speaker 2>not a second of the entire year that this song
<v Speaker 2>was not playing on some radio stations somewhere. Mine. Sorry,
<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's crazy.
<v Speaker 1>It was an escapable.
<v Speaker 3>It was.
<v Speaker 1>And I asked our buddy deaf Dave if he's ever
<v Speaker 1>heard this song. Tony Stark was sick of hearing this
<v Speaker 1>song in the Afghanistan caves. Dave had never heard. Okay, hey,
<v Speaker 1>I'm the genesis of this song, though, so he did
<v Speaker 1>go to Peak's house to play it for him. The
<v Speaker 1>genesis was he was talking to his girlfriend. They got
<v Speaker 1>it an argument. He goes downstairs and he's like, he's
<v Speaker 1>so pissed. He cranks up his amp. He's like, I'm
<v Speaker 1>gonna work on music because I'm pissed at my girlfriend.
<v Speaker 1>And he had the four lines to this song already
<v Speaker 1>written down in a book and he thought those were
<v Speaker 1>those were really good, and so he's like, Okay, I'm
<v Speaker 1>gonna use that in this song. And then also I'm
<v Speaker 1>gonna scream. It's not like you to say sorry. And
<v Speaker 1>he's like shooting missiles upstairs to let her know how
<v Speaker 1>unhappy he is. She says, what was that you were
<v Speaker 1>working on down there? And he's like, nothing, just song
<v Speaker 1>I was working on. She's like it was awesome. I
<v Speaker 1>loved it, So there you go.
<v Speaker 2>Well he never made it as a wise man. This
<v Speaker 2>is basically like a sarcastic vengeful If you've ever been
<v Speaker 2>with someone or known someone who just can't ever just
<v Speaker 2>apologize for anything, this is so this is the song
<v Speaker 2>for them. It's not like you to say sorry and
<v Speaker 2>then you just get mad to be around him. And
<v Speaker 2>are we haven't fun yet? Are? It's sarcasm? Right? Are
<v Speaker 2>we haven't fun?
<v Speaker 1>This sarcasm?
<v Speaker 2>But the chord progression in the song it's relatively simple,
<v Speaker 2>it's not complex, but it's good. It's great and the
<v Speaker 2>dynamics of the song are incredible.
<v Speaker 3>This is you make.
<v Speaker 5>Me, This is you.
<v Speaker 3>You're sorry.
<v Speaker 2>One of our guys sent us a meme on this, say,
<v Speaker 2>what do they call the TikTok the reel or something
<v Speaker 2>one of those? Right, and it's it's it's this guy
<v Speaker 2>in his car, But like, this is what happens when
<v Speaker 2>you pull up to somebody who's blair and nickelback, and
<v Speaker 2>he's he's like looking out, shaking his head, putting his
<v Speaker 2>thumbs down, you know, until it hits that chorus, and
<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden, he's banging his head and he's singing,
<v Speaker 2>singing along to the song, because that's what you do
<v Speaker 2>to this song.
<v Speaker 1>That's it, man, that's it. By the way, I got
<v Speaker 1>a little trivia nugget for you. I love the idea
<v Speaker 1>that this is the number one most played song on
<v Speaker 1>the radio in the first decade of the two thousands, right,
<v Speaker 1>one point two million times? Do you know the number
<v Speaker 1>two not a clear the song Drops of Jupiter by.
<v Speaker 5>Train the Way You Love Him?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I remember that one. That one was everywhere all
<v Speaker 2>the time. My wife and I were dating in the
<v Speaker 2>year two thousand and one, started dating and got married
<v Speaker 2>in the same year, and that song was there all
<v Speaker 2>the time, and yeah, it was a lot.
<v Speaker 1>I love it. I love that song too. I'm a
<v Speaker 1>sucker for these. Billboard ranked it as the number one
<v Speaker 1>song of that decade and the number four alternative rock song.
<v Speaker 1>It was brought in as a last second addition to
<v Speaker 1>that album and ended up being their signature song forever.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So they went from Hey record label. We're really
<v Speaker 2>sorry you spent all this money and we didn't make
<v Speaker 2>any for you too. Hey, guys, we're gonna have to
<v Speaker 2>We're gonna have to do a world tour. And they're like,
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, what a world tour? Like? You're going to Australia,
<v Speaker 2>you're going to Africa, you're going to Europe. What do
<v Speaker 2>you guys want? And they're like, what do you mean?
<v Speaker 2>What do we want? They're like, what do you want
<v Speaker 2>on the stage. You've made enough money to pay for
<v Speaker 2>whatever you want and you're going to make more. What
<v Speaker 2>do you want?
<v Speaker 1>They want a bathroom, they can play baseball.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, the king size bed big enough for ten
<v Speaker 2>plus me. That's right. So Chad Kroger, you know, he's
<v Speaker 2>been accused of being a frat guy. Not remotely is
<v Speaker 2>he the guy at all, But he's he's a guy
<v Speaker 2>who likes to drink beer and have fun like a
<v Speaker 2>fat guy would. And so do I write so? But
<v Speaker 2>he was he was like, what do you mean? What
<v Speaker 2>do I want? And they're like, you can just you know,
<v Speaker 2>tell us what. He was like, I want explosions, I
<v Speaker 2>want fire, I want a gigantic TV that everybody can
<v Speaker 2>see like he's literally he's like, I want to be
<v Speaker 2>a rock star, and that is exactly what they did.
<v Speaker 2>And since that day, no matter how much everybody seems
<v Speaker 2>to quote unquote hate them, they've been filling up arenas
<v Speaker 2>over and over and over. Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>I've got a trivia question for you, and I gave
<v Speaker 1>this to you the other day, but I just am
<v Speaker 1>so in love with it I have to share it
<v Speaker 1>with our audience. Okay, Yeah, hit me, So, how you
<v Speaker 1>remind me? Hit number one on the Billboard Hot one hundred. Yes,
<v Speaker 1>that is the sixth total Canadian band hit number one
<v Speaker 1>on the American Billboard Top one hundred, sixth total.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, oh, okay, So but there was something that came after. Yes,
<v Speaker 2>they're the fifth chronologically. Yes, okay, all right, so let
<v Speaker 2>me try to remember I because I guessed a couple
<v Speaker 2>of these he did. Yeah. I said it had to
<v Speaker 2>be a band, right, Brian Adams was off the table.
<v Speaker 1>That's right, got to be a band.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, And without giving away too much, I know that
<v Speaker 2>one of the bands is Sheriff.
<v Speaker 1>That's right. When I'm with You from nineteen eighty nine
<v Speaker 1>Patreon episode on it.
<v Speaker 2>And it was a big secret at that point, but
<v Speaker 2>I guess we've just given it away. Guys. By the way,
<v Speaker 2>if you want to go listen to some of our
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<v Speaker 2>some other fun songs along with them. You can sign
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<v Speaker 2>the community. Man, just hit us up. We love talking
<v Speaker 2>to people, right yep? Okay, And I remember talking during
<v Speaker 2>that episode that I because I remember that the other
<v Speaker 2>band Aachman Turner Overdrug.
<v Speaker 1>That's right. And the name of the song is you
<v Speaker 1>Ain't Seen Nothing Yet, Oh.
<v Speaker 2>Of course four. By the way song, do you know
<v Speaker 2>that song was written as a joke. No, yeah, so
<v Speaker 2>you Ain't Seen Nothing like how he stutters through it.
<v Speaker 2>He was making fun of his brother and his brother
<v Speaker 2>had a stutter. They do this joke song as a
<v Speaker 2>way to make fun of him. Had no intention to
<v Speaker 2>release it, and then the record label hears it and
<v Speaker 2>they're like, this is a hit, guys, and they're like, no,
<v Speaker 2>this is a joke, and they're like, no, this is
<v Speaker 2>a hit, and they're like, well, let's record it without
<v Speaker 2>the stutter. They did it without the stutter, and it
<v Speaker 2>was like, yeah, it's not as good, put the stutter
<v Speaker 2>back in.
<v Speaker 1>But bah bah baby, Wow, that's cool.
<v Speaker 2>There you go. Okay, okay, and then there's one more.
<v Speaker 2>I can't remember who it is. Who's the third one
<v Speaker 2>that was.
<v Speaker 1>Well, so you got American Woman by the Guests Who
<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventy.
<v Speaker 2>Oh, yeah, that's right.
<v Speaker 1>You ain't seen nothing yet by Bto in seventy four,
<v Speaker 1>when I'm with You by Sheriff in eighty nine, One
<v Speaker 1>Week by the Bare Naked Ladies in nineteen ninety eight. Nice,
<v Speaker 1>and then a song called Rude by Magic in twenty fourteen,
<v Speaker 1>which I've never heard of. So this song has been
<v Speaker 1>covered by Avril Levine.
<v Speaker 2>Who they were married, right, they.
<v Speaker 1>Were marriage and Chad Kroger were married.
<v Speaker 2>At one point and that I think is the only
<v Speaker 2>time he's been married. No kids.
<v Speaker 1>They were married for a couple of years.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah it didn't work out, Okay. I love talking about
<v Speaker 2>this song. This is obviously the song that broke them.
<v Speaker 2>But we got to keep on going. Let's real quick
<v Speaker 2>hit one that's not a Nickelback song but basically is,
<v Speaker 2>and that is the song from the Spider Man soundtrack
<v Speaker 2>by Chad Kroger called hero.
<v Speaker 3>I Can you hear Him?
<v Speaker 2>So for me, this is the song that I could
<v Speaker 2>not get enough of. I mean this one. I was
<v Speaker 2>just like, this is such a fantastic song, just played
<v Speaker 2>it over and over. Any chance I got, I would
<v Speaker 2>play this song. So this one, as I said, was
<v Speaker 2>for the Spider Man soundtrack. The unfortunate release date of
<v Speaker 2>Silverside Up spider Man. The trailer had this scene in
<v Speaker 2>it where Spider Man is like, basically I think saving
<v Speaker 2>a helicopter from crashing, and so he spins webs between
<v Speaker 2>the twin towers to catch the helicopter to save it.
<v Speaker 2>But then of course we had nine to eleven happened
<v Speaker 2>and they're like, oh, we got to cut that out.
<v Speaker 2>But it's yeah, just two times that the September or
<v Speaker 2>eleventh attacks have played a factor in these Nickelback songs.
<v Speaker 1>This song was so big that summer of two thousand
<v Speaker 1>and two, my son went as Spider Man, little guy
<v Speaker 1>like one year old, dressed up and I made a
<v Speaker 1>little video and I put it to this song. This
<v Speaker 1>song peaked at number three July thirteenth of two thousand
<v Speaker 1>and two.
<v Speaker 2>I want to know what the two songs are.
<v Speaker 1>You can tell me if you've even recognized these. So
<v Speaker 1>number two is Without Me by Eminem Sure, I don't
<v Speaker 1>know that one. And number one is Hot in Here
<v Speaker 1>by Nelly.
<v Speaker 2>Nope.
<v Speaker 1>But we knew this song loud and clear.
<v Speaker 2>Right.
<v Speaker 1>The cool thing to me is this is a collaboration.
<v Speaker 1>This is not Nickelback like you said. This is Chad
<v Speaker 1>Kroger and Josie Scott, who is the lead singer of
<v Speaker 1>a band called Saliva. And I saw Josie Scott talking
<v Speaker 1>about they were on the same tour together and like
<v Speaker 1>Saliva had opened for Nickelback, and Chad Kroger is like, hey,
<v Speaker 1>I've got some ideas. I thought maybe you and I
<v Speaker 1>could kind of work on a song together. And Jose
<v Speaker 1>Sctt's like, yeah, man, let's do this. And Jose Scott
<v Speaker 1>said he played that first line like I am so
<v Speaker 1>high I can hear heaven. He said he got chills,
<v Speaker 1>like right off the bat. He's like, this guy is
<v Speaker 1>an amazing songwriter. He's killing it right off the bat.
<v Speaker 1>This reached number one on the Modern Rock chart number
<v Speaker 1>one on the mainstream chart. It was Grammy nominated. It
<v Speaker 1>won the two thousand and two MTV Music Award for
<v Speaker 1>Best Video for a Film. To Me, this is the
<v Speaker 1>song of the Summer of two thousand and two. Love
<v Speaker 1>It Okay?
<v Speaker 2>Moving on next song now.
<v Speaker 1>This is off their next album called The Long Road,
<v Speaker 1>which was released in two thousand and three, and that
<v Speaker 1>song is called Someday.
<v Speaker 3>Hold will you wind up like this? Why weren't we
<v Speaker 3>able to see the signs that way? Messed It said,
<v Speaker 3>let's say this. I wish you I'm planching.
<v Speaker 1>Mass another banger.
<v Speaker 2>Man. Yeah, I mean the lyrics on this one. You
<v Speaker 2>just take a little time just to look at these lyrics.
<v Speaker 2>They're well written lyrics. I don't know how anybody, says
<v Speaker 2>Vacuus who has actually looked at the lyrics that they've written.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, this is a intense moment. The girl is
<v Speaker 2>ready to walk out on him, and he says, I
<v Speaker 2>wish you would unclinch your fists and put your suitcase back.
<v Speaker 2>I don't want you to go. This is a heartfelt thing. No, man,
<v Speaker 2>right now, I just don't get it.
<v Speaker 1>These guys have a knack of writing catchy, lighter rock songs.
<v Speaker 2>Give def Leppard if you tuned in to find out why,
<v Speaker 2>like you didn't never understand it. Like I can't tell
<v Speaker 2>you how many people that I've polled in the last
<v Speaker 2>couple of weeks where I've been like, hey, how do
<v Speaker 2>you feel about Nickelback? And most of the time the
<v Speaker 2>answer is yeah, I mean they're okay. I never really
<v Speaker 2>understood the hate. Well, I'm about to explain it to
<v Speaker 2>you this. So we said that the song came out,
<v Speaker 2>this one right here, Someday came out in two thousand
<v Speaker 2>and three.
<v Speaker 1>That's right.
<v Speaker 2>There was another event that occurred in two thousand and three,
<v Speaker 2>which is probably the reason for the hate. This goes
<v Speaker 2>back to a comedian named Brian Poyce. He was a
<v Speaker 2>guy who was on The Mister Show with Bob and David.
<v Speaker 2>Heavier guy wore glasses, and he was on a Comedy
<v Speaker 2>Central show with Colin Quinn. All right, and he does
<v Speaker 2>what I would say is they're talking about whether the
<v Speaker 2>violent lyrics in songs actually promote real violence, and his
<v Speaker 2>joke is, I don't want to talk about the violent lyrics.
<v Speaker 2>I want to just talk about bad music that makes
<v Speaker 2>you want to be violent. He's like, Nickelback songs make
<v Speaker 2>me want to be violent towards Nickelback, Right, And that's it.
<v Speaker 2>That's the joke. Pretty innocuous, kind of a chuckle and
<v Speaker 2>throw it away. Here's the problem. Comedy Central chowse that
<v Speaker 2>little clip as part of the promo for that TV show,
<v Speaker 2>and they ran it for the next six months. No
<v Speaker 2>one talks about the studies that show that bad music
<v Speaker 2>makes people violent, like Nickelback makes me want to kill Nickelback.
<v Speaker 2>Two thousand and three is when the Internet starts exploding
<v Speaker 2>because it's just in your ear. You don't even really
<v Speaker 2>realize why, but it's in your ear for six months.
<v Speaker 2>People are taken to the Internet to say whatever they
<v Speaker 2>want to say now because it's open for them. It
<v Speaker 2>becomes a trend off of this one stupid little joke
<v Speaker 2>that was a throwaway, but because it happened to be
<v Speaker 2>part of an advertisement that ran for six solid months,
<v Speaker 2>it got on everybody's ear and everybody jumped on the bandwagon.
<v Speaker 1>This is the equivalent of Lars throwing a dart at
<v Speaker 1>Kip Winger's face in the Metallica video.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like all of.
<v Speaker 1>A sudden, everybody in the world is like, I hate Winger, right,
<v Speaker 1>wait a minute, five minutes ago, you love Winger.
<v Speaker 2>There's this theory or syndrome called the tall poppy syndrome.
<v Speaker 2>It's not big in the US, but it's pretty well
<v Speaker 2>known in Canada and Australia. The idea is poppies, they're
<v Speaker 2>growing a big plant, but that some of them will
<v Speaker 2>grow taller than the rest. Okay, and to keep the
<v Speaker 2>plant looking good, you chop the heads off of the
<v Speaker 2>ones that have grown too tall. And this idea is
<v Speaker 2>sometimes things become so popular that people want to find
<v Speaker 2>a reason to chop them down. And we're talking about
<v Speaker 2>a band that the year before was on every second
<v Speaker 2>of the entire year. Of course the response is going
<v Speaker 2>to be, let's cut those guys down down, let's make
<v Speaker 2>some stuff up, let's make some hate. And it caught
<v Speaker 2>on and I saw an interview with the guy and
<v Speaker 2>they're like, you hate Nickelback and he's like yeah, and
<v Speaker 2>he goes why and he goes same reason everybody else does,
<v Speaker 2>because the Internet told us too, And that's it. That
<v Speaker 2>is the reason that everybody hates is because it became
<v Speaker 2>a viral hate and let me just tell you, guys,
<v Speaker 2>if you jumped on that bandwagon, you jumped in with
<v Speaker 2>the bullies. Okay, these guys have children that faced hate
<v Speaker 2>in their schools from other kids because they were kids
<v Speaker 2>of the guys in this band. These Chad Kroger, because
<v Speaker 2>he's the face of the band, would walk down the
<v Speaker 2>street and have people roll down the window to say
<v Speaker 2>fuck you, your band sucks. That song Signed was on all
<v Speaker 2>the time, and I grew to hate it. But I
<v Speaker 2>would never cuss at the members of Ace of base Right.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's just ludicrous. If you don't like it,
<v Speaker 2>don't listen to it. But why would you jump on
<v Speaker 2>this bullying bandwagon that is spewing hate and violence towards
<v Speaker 2>these guys. We're just writing songs that people.
<v Speaker 1>I watched the documentary. These guys are cool dudes. I
<v Speaker 1>think they're all a lot of fun to hang out with,
<v Speaker 1>and they make fun, catchy, pump your fist arena rock songs.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all right, So what's our next fun pump your
<v Speaker 2>fist arena rock song?
<v Speaker 1>Okay, this is not a pump your fist song, huh,
<v Speaker 1>but this might be one of the best songs of
<v Speaker 1>the first decade of the two thousands.
<v Speaker 2>Oh, you're saying, these guys have variety in their music.
<v Speaker 2>They're not only an arena rock band. They actually have
<v Speaker 2>different types of songs.
<v Speaker 1>This song blows my socks. It is a top ten
<v Speaker 1>song for me the first decade of the two thousand.
<v Speaker 1>That song is called Photograph.
<v Speaker 2>Sorry, we covered that one back in Season one. Everybody,
<v Speaker 2>if you'd like to go check out the Pyromania album.
<v Speaker 1>That's right, that's right, and I love that song too.
<v Speaker 1>So let's play this one Photograph by Nicoback.
<v Speaker 3>Look at this photograph having someone. It makes me laugh
<v Speaker 3>at it as get solid. What the hell is on?
<v Speaker 3>Julie said, this is where I grew up. I'm big
<v Speaker 3>the president. I want to fix it up. I never
<v Speaker 3>knew he ever went out the second.
<v Speaker 1>I'm better stop it. We're gonna listen to the whole song.
<v Speaker 2>It's hard to turn it off. The song, just you
<v Speaker 2>just said, it keeps leveling up and leveling up.
<v Speaker 1>It's one of those rare songs where the verses are
<v Speaker 1>great enough to catch me. The chorus tackles me and
<v Speaker 1>puts me in jail, and then at the end of
<v Speaker 1>the song, as it's trailing out you have this wonderful
<v Speaker 1>like I love this town, I love this place. It
<v Speaker 1>affects me emotionally. Yeah, I absolutely love this one. This
<v Speaker 1>is my favorite nicobaccent.
<v Speaker 2>Oh fantastic. So this is in the Vein of Glory
<v Speaker 2>Days by Bruce Springsteen. Summer sixty nine by Brian Adams.
<v Speaker 2>This is about what it was like when we were kids.
<v Speaker 6>Right.
<v Speaker 2>What I love is that it's literally about his life.
<v Speaker 2>If you go through the lyrics, it says criminal record
<v Speaker 2>says I broke in twice, must have done it half
<v Speaker 2>a dozen times. Chad Kroger was on the verge of
<v Speaker 2>going to jail for a long time before he figured
<v Speaker 2>out how to get out of that town and make
<v Speaker 2>some music. Fourteen, he had multiple breaking and enterings. He
<v Speaker 2>got caught breaking into his school, and he was like,
<v Speaker 2>I didn't even like to go to school. Why would
<v Speaker 2>I have broken into it? But it's this sweet I
<v Speaker 2>remember those good old days, even though they were not
<v Speaker 2>that great, still good old days. I remember the great things.
<v Speaker 2>This band was not always called Nickelback.
<v Speaker 1>Before you go and tell us the history of the band,
<v Speaker 1>I've got the story on what's on Joey's head. Okay, Right,
<v Speaker 1>so I heard Chad Kruger say he came up with
<v Speaker 1>the line look at this photograph, and he's like, what
<v Speaker 1>photograph am I thinking of when I'm writing these lyrics?
<v Speaker 2>Right?
<v Speaker 1>And he's like, you know, the photograph that always makes
<v Speaker 1>me laugh is the one from New Year's Eve a
<v Speaker 1>few years ago with their producer, Joey moy. He's like,
<v Speaker 1>we were so hammered and it was New Year's Eve
<v Speaker 1>and we were having a great time and he had
<v Speaker 1>this giant like wine chiller thing on his head. He
<v Speaker 1>said it looked like the Stanley cup. And you take
<v Speaker 1>photos and later you're like, what the what were we
<v Speaker 1>doing there? Man? I mean, that's good. So that's the
<v Speaker 1>answer to the question what was on Joey's head? Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>the giant wine chiller. It looks like a Stanley cup.
<v Speaker 2>So this band starts off in Little Hannah Alberta, Mike Krueger,
<v Speaker 2>Chad Krueger, and Ryan and on the drums they've got
<v Speaker 2>their cousin, Brandon Krueger.
<v Speaker 1>That's right.
<v Speaker 2>And I think Chad had to go live with Brandon
<v Speaker 2>for a while because of all of the criminal problems
<v Speaker 2>that he was having. Yes, but the band at that
<v Speaker 2>time was called Village Idiot, right, and they had a
<v Speaker 2>different lead singer. Ultimately, Brandon leaves the band later on,
<v Speaker 2>just decides, Hey, this touring thing isn't for me this,
<v Speaker 2>you know. A couple of years later before they really
<v Speaker 2>hit right, they have another drummer that is from Hannah
<v Speaker 2>that plays with them, and he does. He's on their
<v Speaker 2>first few albums. But then okay, Brandon Krueger was their cousin.
<v Speaker 2>He was playing drums on their first couple of albums,
<v Speaker 2>which weren't record label albums, right, This was Heysher and
<v Speaker 2>Curb right, and then he was like, hey, guys, I
<v Speaker 2>just the band life is not for me. I want
<v Speaker 2>to go do something else. And then they get a
<v Speaker 2>guy named Mitch Gwindon who played songs on the State,
<v Speaker 2>which was what they did in nineteen ninety eight that album.
<v Speaker 2>He didn't get credited though, right, but he's just another
<v Speaker 2>local guy. But again, just didn't feel like he was
<v Speaker 2>right for the band. I'm telling you all this to
<v Speaker 2>tell you that just a few years ago he calls
<v Speaker 2>them up and he's like, hey, guys, you know, I
<v Speaker 2>know that the likelihood that you're actually gonna do this
<v Speaker 2>is low, but I just thought, maybe you like to
<v Speaker 2>come back to hannah hometown and play but not as
<v Speaker 2>nickelback as village idiot, and they.
<v Speaker 1>Said, yes, I love it.
<v Speaker 2>They all came back. I mean, they're running into their
<v Speaker 2>high school friends and it's the first time they've been
<v Speaker 2>back in forever. And Chad Krueger is like, yeah, I
<v Speaker 2>used to break into that window right up there. That's
<v Speaker 2>how I would get into this house. When they play
<v Speaker 2>all of the old cover songs that they used to
<v Speaker 2>play when they were a village idiot for the community
<v Speaker 2>to help raise money for charity.
<v Speaker 1>Over there, I absolutely love that.
<v Speaker 2>It's fantastic.
<v Speaker 1>And you know, everybody comes from somewhere. Yeah, and they
<v Speaker 1>are in the you know, Canadian Music Hall of Fame now,
<v Speaker 1>all right, and they're from little bitty Hannah.
<v Speaker 2>I can't imagine if I was in that crowd if
<v Speaker 2>they played the song photograph, I don't know that there
<v Speaker 2>could have been a dry in the house. Absolutely, the
<v Speaker 2>nature of the song and then being back after becoming
<v Speaker 2>so big and being gone so many years, it would
<v Speaker 2>have it would have moved anybody to tears.
<v Speaker 1>Especially when you close with I love this town, I
<v Speaker 1>love these faces. That whole thing just hits my heart absolutely.
<v Speaker 1>By the way, this song hit number two on the
<v Speaker 1>Billboard Hot one hundred. Number one was gold Digger by
<v Speaker 1>Kanye West and Jamie Bucks. I do think it's interesting
<v Speaker 1>Ryan Peak. When Chad Krueger brought this song to Ryan Peak,
<v Speaker 1>Ryan Peak was the one who said, I think the
<v Speaker 1>chorus needs to be the bridge, and the bridge needs
<v Speaker 1>to be the chorus. And that's sort of the magic.
<v Speaker 2>That happened that made this song great, fantastic.
<v Speaker 1>In October of twenty nineteen, Donald Trump tweeted a bit
<v Speaker 1>that used this song. I don't know what the tweet
<v Speaker 1>was about, right, but Chad thought it was hilarious, right.
<v Speaker 1>He thought it was a scream that Trump is using
<v Speaker 1>his song for some tweet that goes viral on the internet.
<v Speaker 1>He said, because of that tweet alone, the song Photograph
<v Speaker 1>was played an additional seven hundred million times, laughing all
<v Speaker 1>the way to the bank.
<v Speaker 2>That's an interesting idea, right there. You know, we've talked
<v Speaker 2>about other bands like Twisted Sister, who have said to
<v Speaker 2>certain political figures, hey, I don't want you to use
<v Speaker 2>my song. You know. Don Henley famously has said, noe,
<v Speaker 2>please stop using my song, right and so it's interesting
<v Speaker 2>to me that the bands do this. Now. I get
<v Speaker 2>it if you've got this really strong political stance, but
<v Speaker 2>I mean, these guys are from Canada. What do they care?
<v Speaker 2>But the idea that they're so widely hated. Mike Krueger
<v Speaker 2>has gone so far as to say, guys, we need
<v Speaker 2>to embrace this hate because it's given us legs for
<v Speaker 2>the last twenty years. He's right. I mean the album
<v Speaker 2>that I grew to love because we're doing this episode
<v Speaker 2>and because I was like, well, I guess I should
<v Speaker 2>listen to Nickelback and see if they're any good. The
<v Speaker 2>one that I grew to love came out in two
<v Speaker 2>thousand and eight. Like they've been going a long time,
<v Speaker 2>and they've had albums. I mean, they had an album
<v Speaker 2>a year or two ago, but I don't know any
<v Speaker 2>of the songs that have come out in the last
<v Speaker 2>ten years. But the fact that they've got all of
<v Speaker 2>this hate number one, it keeps their names in people's mouths,
<v Speaker 2>just like that viral video from Trump did, and causes
<v Speaker 2>people to go download their music seven hundred million times,
<v Speaker 2>And it also creates a reaction for all of those
<v Speaker 2>folks who do like them they're like, hey, screw you, guys,
<v Speaker 2>and this is really what this is really what rock
<v Speaker 2>and roll is all about. If you're not hated at
<v Speaker 2>least a little bit, you're not really a rock band.
<v Speaker 1>I posted a meme on our Facebook page two days ago.
<v Speaker 1>That's a picture of Chad Kruger holding up and it says,
<v Speaker 1>look at this photograph. Huh And it was the Northern
<v Speaker 1>Lights that everybody was working pictures.
<v Speaker 2>That doesn't happen to Candlebox, No, you know what I mean,
<v Speaker 2>does not Yeah, or the Meat Puppets. That's right, by
<v Speaker 2>the way, guys, go check out our Best of nineteen
<v Speaker 2>ninety four episode that we pulled out a few weeks ago.
<v Speaker 2>Ready to move on to the next song, where we
<v Speaker 2>got next song list?
<v Speaker 1>So the next song was the second single released from
<v Speaker 1>all the right reasons. That song is called Animals.
<v Speaker 2>So here's the arena rock fist pumping anthem that I
<v Speaker 2>was looking for.
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely this is about you and your girlfriend doing it
<v Speaker 1>like animals.
<v Speaker 2>Well, we've heard a few bands do that exactly. I
<v Speaker 2>think that's actually the lyrics of one of those animal
<v Speaker 2>songs I believe Ruined five.
<v Speaker 1>There you go. Anyway, fun song, right, this is a
<v Speaker 1>concert song.
<v Speaker 3>Don't Know that you are missing.
<v Speaker 1>They showed some footage of the documentary and people are dancing, singing, partying,
<v Speaker 1>having a good time. And I guarantee there are babies
<v Speaker 1>made after Nickelback comes to town. Without a doubt, But.
<v Speaker 2>This song escaped my listening, Like They've got a huge
<v Speaker 2>catalog and I'm just trying to prep for this thing.
<v Speaker 2>I missed this one. I know that they use this
<v Speaker 2>to open up shows because everybody loves this song. They
<v Speaker 2>like banging their heads and pumping their fists and does
<v Speaker 2>it sound like a great hard rock song? Yes.
<v Speaker 1>I loved how in the documentary they were talking about
<v Speaker 1>how they've gotten big enough where each guy can have
<v Speaker 1>their own tour bus, right, And so Ryan Peek he's
<v Speaker 1>got his dog, his wife, his little boy, and they
<v Speaker 1>have the little family bush. Chad has the party bus.
<v Speaker 1>Even Mike Krueger is like, I can't go on Chad's
<v Speaker 1>bus because I like being.
<v Speaker 2>Married, right, right, right, that's right? Yeah, his Mike and Chad,
<v Speaker 2>I mean, obviously they grew up together. And so Mike
<v Speaker 2>is the older brother. He's a couple years older than Chad, right,
<v Speaker 2>And he was always the guy who was protecting Chad.
<v Speaker 2>Chad is the if there was trouble to be made,
<v Speaker 2>he was making it. Kid and Mike is that rule follower, right.
<v Speaker 2>He's a great dad, wants to stay married, wants to
<v Speaker 2>have that very normal life in addition to being a
<v Speaker 2>guy who is an arena packing rock star. Sure at
<v Speaker 2>some point he's like, Chad, you know, before they're famous,
<v Speaker 2>He's like, why do you keep doing this? Like why
<v Speaker 2>do you keep breaking the rules? And Chad is like, listen, man,
<v Speaker 2>I just got to tell you there's no amount of
<v Speaker 2>trouble I can get in that I can't talk myself
<v Speaker 2>out of. And so that kind of mentality led to
<v Speaker 2>a guy who was a great front man for a
<v Speaker 2>band that wants to be super successful. What being able
<v Speaker 2>to bs your way through situations get you is things
<v Speaker 2>you might not get if you just follow the rules,
<v Speaker 2>and that's what they needed to make their big hit. So,
<v Speaker 2>for example, their first album they financed by asking other
<v Speaker 2>people for money. It was a thirty thousand dollars venture
<v Speaker 2>and they didn't have thirty grand Chad literally says to
<v Speaker 2>Ryan Peak, He's like, hey, man, your parents have the
<v Speaker 2>capacity to loan thiss money and I can tell you
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna make it. We are gonna be a success.
<v Speaker 2>The writing is on the wall.
<v Speaker 1>It was not right right.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, that album wasn't success success. The next album
<v Speaker 2>wasn't a success, The next one on a record label
<v Speaker 2>was not a success. Like he was bsing his way
<v Speaker 2>through it, and he kept bsing long enough until ultimately.
<v Speaker 1>He was right, Hey, I gotta tell you while we're
<v Speaker 1>right here. Yeah, how did they get the name Nickelback?
<v Speaker 2>So this is the nineties, so of course you know
<v Speaker 2>one in five guys works at Starbucks. Well, one of
<v Speaker 2>those guys was my Krueger, and so you know what
<v Speaker 2>was coffee? It's four dollars and ninety five cents. Somebody
<v Speaker 2>to give him a five and you go, thanks, here's
<v Speaker 2>your Nickelback.
<v Speaker 1>One of the biggest bands ever. And the guy's making change,
<v Speaker 1>giving people nickels.
<v Speaker 2>That's Starbucks.
<v Speaker 4>Hey.
<v Speaker 1>You know one of the moments in the documentary that
<v Speaker 1>really touched my heart is that they didn't have great
<v Speaker 1>dad figures in their lives, right, And one weekend it
<v Speaker 1>was supposed to be time with Dad and Dad doesn't
<v Speaker 1>show and Mike has fallen apart the seams, and mom
<v Speaker 1>says to Mike, I don't know why you're so upset.
<v Speaker 1>He's not even your real dad anyway. Yeah, and it
<v Speaker 1>was like record scratch, what right? What a terrible time
<v Speaker 1>to tell your children the truth.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and she said it, you know, she was just like,
<v Speaker 2>I did not handle that situation right. I made a mistake.
<v Speaker 2>It was a terrible thing to do, and I regret
<v Speaker 2>it to this day. Yeah. But here's the rest of
<v Speaker 2>that story. Number One, the guy that he thought was
<v Speaker 2>his dad, I mean, he never really was around that much.
<v Speaker 2>He was kind of a ne'er do well as well,
<v Speaker 2>right at the racetrack, like putting the horses in and
<v Speaker 2>stuff like that. Ultimately, Mike was like, hey, I'm going
<v Speaker 2>to try to figure out who my real dad is.
<v Speaker 2>And this has just been in the last few years.
<v Speaker 2>This event occurred when there are kids. He finally basically
<v Speaker 2>tracked down who his dad was. The sad part of
<v Speaker 2>the story was the guy had just passed away the
<v Speaker 2>year before, so he never got to meet him. Okay,
<v Speaker 2>but he now has a new brother and a new sister,
<v Speaker 2>and new cousins and new family members that have welcomed
<v Speaker 2>him in and become He's found a new family and
<v Speaker 2>it's really kind of this bittersweet result of this whole thing.
<v Speaker 2>And the guy who was Chad's dad, right, who Mike
<v Speaker 2>thought was his dad. They're about to go on out
<v Speaker 2>on their first to like we've got this rickety old van.
<v Speaker 2>We're going to go from place to place in Alberta.
<v Speaker 1>Right, that's right, and five hours to the next gas
<v Speaker 1>station boys.
<v Speaker 2>And Chad is like, man, I wish I just I
<v Speaker 2>just wish I had a decent guitar and decent amp.
<v Speaker 2>You know, it's just kind of not good. And his dad,
<v Speaker 2>I mean, they're at a bar and his dad's like,
<v Speaker 2>what kind of guitar? If you could pick your guitar,
<v Speaker 2>what kind of guitar would it be? And what kind
<v Speaker 2>of amp would it be? Chad tells him. He's like okay,
<v Speaker 2>and how much would that cost? And he's like like
<v Speaker 2>four thousand dollars. I mean it's a lot. And his
<v Speaker 2>dad starts going around at the bar to all of
<v Speaker 2>his friends and he's like, hey, my kid needs money
<v Speaker 2>for a guitar, and an amp helped me out, makes
<v Speaker 2>the rounds in the bar, comes back and sets down
<v Speaker 2>four thousand dollars. I can tell you that having A
<v Speaker 2>good guitar and a good amp is an absolute difference
<v Speaker 2>maker for being a successful live band. If you've got
<v Speaker 2>crappy equipment, people will not like to listen to you.
<v Speaker 2>It made or broken the band in that situation. I
<v Speaker 2>love it.
<v Speaker 1>I love it. By the way, we talked about how
<v Speaker 1>they toured and all these little ratty places around Canada.
<v Speaker 1>They went to one place in bamf which is.
<v Speaker 2>You know, bam baff. Here we are in bam bamf.
<v Speaker 1>Is on my bucket list. I would absolutely love to
<v Speaker 1>go there. They went to play this gig. Not one
<v Speaker 1>scene person showed up.
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, and if you as the band, if people
<v Speaker 2>don't show up, you don't get paid.
<v Speaker 3>Jeez.
<v Speaker 1>They kept going Yeah. Next song, yep. Next song is
<v Speaker 1>called far Away.
<v Speaker 3>This time this please bexcused.
<v Speaker 2>So here's a song for the Makeout List of two
<v Speaker 2>thousand and six.
<v Speaker 1>Release January twenty third, two thousand and six. This peak's
<v Speaker 1>at number eight in two thousand and six, the number
<v Speaker 1>one song that week. I actually recognized sexy Back by
<v Speaker 1>Justin Timberlake.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>This was their fourth top ten single, and it's about
<v Speaker 1>loving somebody no matter what. I was talking to our
<v Speaker 1>buddy Jeff Johnson, who claims to not be a Nickelback fan,
<v Speaker 1>called though I'm hoping to change his mind. He is
<v Speaker 1>a fan of certain songs but wants them to kind
<v Speaker 1>of stay in their lane.
<v Speaker 2>That was kind of his complaint. Well, here's let me
<v Speaker 2>just say this on that note. Yeah, I haven't met
<v Speaker 2>anybody who says I hate Nickelback other than Amanda Janic,
<v Speaker 2>and Amanda Janic after watching the documentary, was like, Okay,
<v Speaker 2>I kind of want to have a beer with Chad Krueger,
<v Speaker 2>Like even she would even the needle move for her. Now,
<v Speaker 2>I don't think that she's turning up any of their songs,
<v Speaker 2>but I don't think she hates them anymore. And other
<v Speaker 2>than her, I've never met somebody who outright says I
<v Speaker 2>hate them. Right, it's just the Internet.
<v Speaker 1>After watching the documentary, you realize the adversity that these
<v Speaker 1>guys have endured. Number one for being the whipping boy
<v Speaker 1>publicly on the internet, for being a bad rock band
<v Speaker 1>which they are not, having bad songs, which they don't.
<v Speaker 1>And then you see things like Mike Krueger had a stroke, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>and I had to learn to walk again, yeah, And
<v Speaker 1>then their longtime drummer Daniel Adair develops this neurological disorder
<v Speaker 1>in his arm and it's like frozen shoulder. He can't
<v Speaker 1>play the drums anything.
<v Speaker 2>This story made me tear up. I want to tell
<v Speaker 2>this the story. This is during COVID. You don't know
<v Speaker 2>when they're going to play next, right, But he's trying
<v Speaker 2>to stay in shape, but his arm is he says,
<v Speaker 2>it's like granted, like he's doing everything he can, but
<v Speaker 2>his arm just locks and won't do anything. And he's like,
<v Speaker 2>I can't. I can't be a drummer. And so ultimately
<v Speaker 2>he talks to his wife and he's like, I just
<v Speaker 2>have to quit. I have to quit the band. I
<v Speaker 2>can't hold him back. And so he sends an email
<v Speaker 2>and just is like, hey, guys, you know I can't
<v Speaker 2>do it anymore. I'm sorry, I have to quit. Send right,
<v Speaker 2>and he's like within five minutes, the phone is ringing
<v Speaker 2>and his wife answers the phone and she's like it's
<v Speaker 2>chat and he's like, just tell him I'll call him back, right.
<v Speaker 2>So he gets control of himself, goes and sits in
<v Speaker 2>the car, calls him on the cell phone and he's
<v Speaker 2>like hey, and she has like anybody.
<v Speaker 4>Did.
<v Speaker 2>And then he's like, this guy is he was their
<v Speaker 2>fourth drummer, right, and he came from three doors down.
<v Speaker 1>He left three doors down, left.
<v Speaker 2>Three doors down at this very kind of critical moment
<v Speaker 2>when they were not really that big of a band,
<v Speaker 2>and decided to go with them. But because he wasn't
<v Speaker 2>an original guy, didn't go to high school with these guys,
<v Speaker 2>he always kind of felt like not a full member
<v Speaker 2>of the band. And they all love him, you know,
<v Speaker 2>they talk about how crazy is and how funny is.
<v Speaker 2>But he's just like, you know, they've got stories that
<v Speaker 2>are just their stories. Those guys went to high school together,
<v Speaker 2>and so I always just was like, you know, I
<v Speaker 2>feel like slightly like an outsider. But he's having this
<v Speaker 2>conversation with Chad and he's like Chad is like, listen, buddy,
<v Speaker 2>we have money. Let's figure out what's wrong. We'll figure
<v Speaker 2>out who the best person is to treat whatever it
<v Speaker 2>is that you have, and we'll get you taken care of.
<v Speaker 2>But you know, it's so much. And he's like, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>but we want you in the band, We want you,
<v Speaker 2>we want you.
<v Speaker 1>I love it.
<v Speaker 2>Man, broke my heart. It's like, oh, these are good guys,
<v Speaker 2>even the most reckless wild member of the band is
<v Speaker 2>a decent guy with a good heart.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, love it. Let's turn to maybe the most fun
<v Speaker 1>song we're gonna talk about. Okay, this song is called
<v Speaker 1>rock Star.
<v Speaker 4>Was standing in line the clubs of never Again. It's
<v Speaker 4>like the bottom of the nine that I'm never on
<v Speaker 4>a win. This five hasn't turned out quite the way.
<v Speaker 3>To what you want.
<v Speaker 4>I want a brand new sound of an episode of
<v Speaker 4>Crams and a bathroom I can play basebowl in and
<v Speaker 4>a gang size time begging nine.
<v Speaker 3>Ten plus me.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So this was the nickelback song that I've always loved,
<v Speaker 2>like the first time that I heard it. Up until
<v Speaker 2>this moment right here, I have loved it. And because
<v Speaker 2>we've been covering this band, and because I've been listening
<v Speaker 2>to their various songs, this song I've sung in my
<v Speaker 2>head more times in the last two weeks than ever
<v Speaker 2>before because it is a friggin' earworm. Like you, you
<v Speaker 2>can't stop singing it once you know these words, right, fantastic.
<v Speaker 2>But this may be part two of why this is
<v Speaker 2>a hated band.
<v Speaker 4>Interesting bab might even got mine and change my name
<v Speaker 4>goes God want me bag Rockstarnhill, Time Bosses, Driving fifteen Cows.
<v Speaker 6>The Girl's Gun and the Drugs Gun, Sheep, Wlast Day's
<v Speaker 6>Skinny as we just wanting Well.
<v Speaker 1>So, the interesting thing about this song is that it
<v Speaker 1>was released originally in two thousand and six and did
<v Speaker 1>basically nothing. It was released without a video, but the
<v Speaker 1>record label is like, you know what, that's a great song.
<v Speaker 1>We need to give it a second line.
<v Speaker 4>Hey, I want to be a rockstar.
<v Speaker 3>I want to be a rockstar.
<v Speaker 1>So they re released it in two thousand and seven
<v Speaker 1>with a killer video full of celebrity lip sinkers and
<v Speaker 1>random people on the streets and random people on the street,
<v Speaker 1>and it becomes a number six hit on the Hot
<v Speaker 1>one hundred. Yeah, listen to this list of celebrities that's
<v Speaker 1>in this video. Freaking So you've got Billy Gibbons from
<v Speaker 1>zz Top who also is featured singing if you can.
<v Speaker 2>Call it that, the little deep voice parts.
<v Speaker 1>Tell me what you want.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>By the way, he's supposed to be the voice of
<v Speaker 1>the devil. Oh wow, Okay, that's what he's playing. I
<v Speaker 1>want to be a rock star and.
<v Speaker 2>It's yeah, I was gonna say in the video, he's
<v Speaker 2>sitting in front of like skulls and flames and stuff.
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I could see that.
<v Speaker 6>Ye.
<v Speaker 2>Right, so you've got tastefully done the skulls and things
<v Speaker 2>in flames.
<v Speaker 1>But right, so Billy Gibbons from Zezi Top. You've got
<v Speaker 1>UFC Fighter, Chuck the Iceman Liddell, he's got a guy
<v Speaker 1>in a headlock, and it's really funny. You have Dale
<v Speaker 1>Earnhardt Junior. You have Eliza Douschku, she's the little girl
<v Speaker 1>from True Lies, Dana hang on to the Yeah, okay, yeah.
<v Speaker 2>I knew you would know that one.
<v Speaker 1>You have Gene Simmons yep from Kiss.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>You've got Grant Hill, world famous basketball player. You've got
<v Speaker 1>Wayne Gretzky, nice Canada, mister Canada. You got Kendra Holly
<v Speaker 1>and Bridget the Playboy Bunnies.
<v Speaker 2>That Eric, You've got a playboy bunny to spend my
<v Speaker 2>money for me. That's it.
<v Speaker 1>You've got Kid Rock. You've got the guys from American Chopper.
<v Speaker 1>You've got Ted Nugent. You've got Cynthia Taylor, Dominic Swain,
<v Speaker 1>all these beautiful, great successful people. And then you've got
<v Speaker 1>people out the street singer rockstar.
<v Speaker 2>I love the video people just lip syncing the song.
<v Speaker 2>Did the band even show up and for this video? Like,
<v Speaker 2>are they in it at all? I don't know if
<v Speaker 2>they are all right. So the reason that this is
<v Speaker 2>part two of why they're a hated band is because
<v Speaker 2>they licensed this song to a furniture company okay in
<v Speaker 2>the UK. And I don't know if it was before
<v Speaker 2>they did the video release and the song became big
<v Speaker 2>like it's second release. I don't know if it was
<v Speaker 2>in that stage or if it was after it. But
<v Speaker 2>if you watch this furniture video, I mean, it's cheesy.
<v Speaker 2>It's like low grade, low quality commercial. People are lip
<v Speaker 2>singing the song, playing a lamp as an air guitar,
<v Speaker 2>and jumping up and down on the furniture and it's
<v Speaker 2>a lame commercial. And these guys are one of the
<v Speaker 2>most popular bands in the world and they're licensing their
<v Speaker 2>song to this And it was just this idea that
<v Speaker 2>they're just they'll sell their songs to whoever wants to
<v Speaker 2>buy them. Okay, have I introduced you guys to Bonjovi yet?
<v Speaker 2>Because they literally said they will hoore themselves out for anything, right,
<v Speaker 2>But I'm wondering if maybe it was in that in
<v Speaker 2>between stage where they're like, well, you know, we thought
<v Speaker 2>this was a great song, but it didn't really do much,
<v Speaker 2>and so hey, if they like it they want to
<v Speaker 2>use it, sure, why not maybe? And then it turned
<v Speaker 2>to bite them because everybody's like, see, they're just sellouts.
<v Speaker 1>This is such a fun song. And I heard them
<v Speaker 1>talking about how they have released thirty three singles so far. Well,
<v Speaker 1>you can't play thirty three songs in concert, but you
<v Speaker 1>can't not play rock Star. This is a song that
<v Speaker 1>they have to play every time they're in concert.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because the big Rocks bosses dropping fifteen.
<v Speaker 6>Cows, the Girl's County and the drugs count Cheap, the
<v Speaker 6>Last Day's Skinny as We're.
<v Speaker 3>Just wanting and well and the cool is bos and
<v Speaker 3>the bey me with the move do every good gold
<v Speaker 3>dig is gone.
<v Speaker 2>And for those folks who you jumped on that bandwagon
<v Speaker 2>to say, you know, look at them selling their music
<v Speaker 2>to a dumb little furniture company in the UK. I
<v Speaker 2>would like to quote the Lawyer from the documentary. I
<v Speaker 2>love the Lawyer man, like he's a character. He's got
<v Speaker 2>long hair and it's kind of heavy and just you know,
<v Speaker 2>he looks like a rock and roll lawyer, but I
<v Speaker 2>think that's by design. He's me as a rock and
<v Speaker 2>roll lawyer, right, Like he's a small town attorney. He
<v Speaker 2>reminded me of Doc McGee a little bit, except that
<v Speaker 2>he's not big. This guy is nothing except for nickelback,
<v Speaker 2>and he was with them before they were big. He's
<v Speaker 2>just trying to help them, Like they came to him
<v Speaker 2>because they had a contract and they wanted it to
<v Speaker 2>make sure they didn't get screwed cheap, and he was cheap, right, right,
<v Speaker 2>So he's talking about he's continued to help them out
<v Speaker 2>throughout this whole process. But they struggled a lot. You know.
<v Speaker 2>They were riding in a van that looked like it
<v Speaker 2>was going to break down, and they were going to
<v Speaker 2>these tiny clubs where nobody would show up, and they
<v Speaker 2>were paying for their first CD with money they borrowed
<v Speaker 2>from their parents. I mean, they're gutting it out. And
<v Speaker 2>he's this guy. Just imagine him, right, like long, gray haired,
<v Speaker 2>kind of stubbly faced guy, right, and he's like everybody
<v Speaker 2>pulled together as a team and sort of moved the
<v Speaker 2>ball down the field. So to those of you who
<v Speaker 2>see the band as some big corporate sell out.
<v Speaker 1>You Okay, d So let's talk about the seventh and
<v Speaker 1>final single from all the right reasons. This song is
<v Speaker 1>called side of a Bullet.
<v Speaker 3>Shoot me Aler on the.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So we're going to talk about guys you like
<v Speaker 2>this band even though everybody else hates them, right, Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>And one of the guys that likes this band is
<v Speaker 2>a guy named Vinni Paul. He was one of the
<v Speaker 2>founders of a band called Pantera. And if you haven't
<v Speaker 2>heard of Pantera, then you are either not from Oklahoma,
<v Speaker 2>Texas or Louisiana, which is where they grew to mild
<v Speaker 2>fame before they hit the big scene. But they are
<v Speaker 2>a heavy metal band and almost assuredly, even if you
<v Speaker 2>haven't heard of Pantera, you've heard of the other founder
<v Speaker 2>of the band, Diamond Bag DARRYL Abbott, Yes, tragically December eighth,
<v Speaker 2>two thousand and four, almost exactly twenty years dime Bag
<v Speaker 2>Daryl and his brother Vinny Paul had formed a new
<v Speaker 2>band and they were playing a show and a guy
<v Speaker 2>named Nathan Gale, who had been he'd been in the military,
<v Speaker 2>was kind of a ne'er. Dwell had some mental issues.
<v Speaker 2>Ultimately got discharged from the military because he was diagnosed
<v Speaker 2>with paranoid schizophrenia. Tragically, his mental health went significantly downhill
<v Speaker 2>after that, and for reasons that are still not completely clear.
<v Speaker 2>One night, December eighth, two thousand and four, he went
<v Speaker 2>to this new band's concert called Damage Plan, got up
<v Speaker 2>on stage and used the nine millimeter to shoot Dimebag
<v Speaker 2>Daryl in the head multiple times, ended up killing at
<v Speaker 2>least three people there before he was ultimately shot by
<v Speaker 2>a police officer who responded to a nine to one
<v Speaker 2>one call. Impressive time too, Like three minutes after the
<v Speaker 2>nine one one call, he's there and he took this
<v Speaker 2>guy out, this Nathan Gaale out, And this was devastating
<v Speaker 2>to the rock and roll community. Dine Bag Daryl was
<v Speaker 2>a hero to many guitarists out there. He is an
<v Speaker 2>incredible guitarist himself, and he was also a hero for
<v Speaker 2>the guys from Nickelback, But it was them who dine Bag.
<v Speaker 2>Darrell's brother, Vinnie Paul said, I want you guys to
<v Speaker 2>have a guitar solo that he had recorded that had
<v Speaker 2>never been released. I want you to have it and
<v Speaker 2>you use it in your song. That's the tribute to
<v Speaker 2>dine Back Daryl, and that's this song side of a Bullet.
<v Speaker 1>They actually invited Vinnie Paul to play drums on this album,
<v Speaker 1>but Vinnie's like, man, there's nothing that I could do
<v Speaker 1>that Daniel can do. Yeah, But I do love the
<v Speaker 1>idea that they were allowed to sort of pill for
<v Speaker 1>the library and piece together this guitar solo that dine
<v Speaker 1>Back Darrel played, Yeah, And I love the fact that
<v Speaker 1>these guys are friends, right, the Pantera guys are friends
<v Speaker 1>with the Nickelback guys. I heard Chad Krueger say that
<v Speaker 1>the guy in the limo one time and the Pantera
<v Speaker 1>guys were listening to Christina Aguilera, and he's like, what
<v Speaker 1>do you guys do it? And they're like, we just
<v Speaker 1>love all types of music.
<v Speaker 2>I listened to Richard Marx talk about how Hysteria was
<v Speaker 2>like he pulled the album and he went to his
<v Speaker 2>producer and he's like, I want my next album to
<v Speaker 2>sound like this, and would blatantly steal ideas from that album.
<v Speaker 2>And then later after his album came out, Phil Collin
<v Speaker 2>is like, hey, you should come over the studio. We're
<v Speaker 2>putting together a new album. He comes over and he
<v Speaker 2>sees his CD. He sees the Richard Mark CD there
<v Speaker 2>and he's like, oh, okay, guys, thanks, thanks for just
<v Speaker 2>planning my CD, like you listen to me and they're like, no,
<v Speaker 2>we love how this sounds. We're totally like stealing your
<v Speaker 2>ideas right now. So literally he stole from def Leppard,
<v Speaker 2>who then stole back from him on the album that
<v Speaker 2>he stole them from.
<v Speaker 1>That's right.
<v Speaker 2>And Cliff Burton I saw an article before he passed
<v Speaker 2>where he was listening to the police. You wouldn't expect
<v Speaker 2>the guys from this thrash metal band to be listening
<v Speaker 2>to the police. But guys, people who love music and
<v Speaker 2>musicians love music. They listen to all types of music.
<v Speaker 2>They're always looking for something that is good and just
<v Speaker 2>because it's popular doesn't mean.
<v Speaker 1>It's bad, right, That's right. This reach number seven on
<v Speaker 1>the Mainstream Rock chart. This was only released to US
<v Speaker 1>rock stations and it became their fourth top ten hit.
<v Speaker 2>From All the Right Reasons. Fantastic great song, tragic story,
<v Speaker 2>but what a what a tribute. Awesome. Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Next song song called if today was your Last day?
<v Speaker 3>My best friend game the best and he said he
<v Speaker 3>stays a game.
<v Speaker 4>Then again and ride be no Stone and turn leave your.
<v Speaker 3>Fings be at pad.
<v Speaker 2>So this is the This is the first song off
<v Speaker 2>of what has become in the last few weeks my
<v Speaker 2>favorite Nickelback album right right.
<v Speaker 1>This album is called dark Horse, released in two thousand
<v Speaker 1>and eight.
<v Speaker 3>You have said it was your last day. It's a
<v Speaker 3>motto to say good bys today.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So because Spotify wants to make me happy, right
<v Speaker 2>it says, oh, hey, you liked this song. And I'm
<v Speaker 2>listening to a lot of Nickelback songs trying to get
<v Speaker 2>familiar with things before we have this episode. As I
<v Speaker 2>work out in the mornings, I've got this Andy's workout
<v Speaker 2>playlist that I'll play, and I have it where it
<v Speaker 2>suggests a song every three songs, and they were very
<v Speaker 2>happy to suggest a lot of Nickelback song and I
<v Speaker 2>would be like, oh, crap, dang, this is good. I've
<v Speaker 2>never heard this. And as I kept hearing these new
<v Speaker 2>Nickelback songs, every single one of them was off this
<v Speaker 2>dark Horse album and they're fantastic. The whole album is
<v Speaker 2>full of bangers. But this is a good five years
<v Speaker 2>into the let's jump on that. We hate Nickelback Bandwagon,
<v Speaker 2>so I just didn't hear him as much. Rolling Stone
<v Speaker 2>flat out said, we will not publish any Nickelback positive articles.
<v Speaker 2>Screw them, man, Like a guy that works for him
<v Speaker 2>listened to the album, had intelligent, good things to say
<v Speaker 2>about the album, and brought his review to the editorial
<v Speaker 2>staff and they said, no, we're not publishing this. It's like, why,
<v Speaker 2>what's wrong with it? And they're like, we do not
<v Speaker 2>publish songs that put a positive spin on Knickelback. What
<v Speaker 2>Stone has just lost several cool points in my book
<v Speaker 2>for that kind of attitude. That is ridiculous.
<v Speaker 1>Right, by the way, I called you the other day,
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, okay, do you've told me that you love
<v Speaker 1>this album and that there's a banger after banger after banger.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?
<v Speaker 1>And I said, do you know who the producer of
<v Speaker 1>Dark Horse is?
<v Speaker 2>And I did not know, and I was.
<v Speaker 1>Pleased to tell you that it is Robert John Mutt Langah.
<v Speaker 1>Heck yeah, Mutt Lange, No wonder. That's so good, right.
<v Speaker 2>They brought him out of retirement to produce this album.
<v Speaker 2>That's incredible, I know.
<v Speaker 1>And you told me a funny story along with that.
<v Speaker 2>Well, so so they they hit him up. You know,
<v Speaker 2>he's he's stopped producing album.
<v Speaker 1>He's a trillion dollars.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean he's he's done enough, right, And I'm
<v Speaker 2>wandering through the grocery store picking out groceries when you
<v Speaker 2>called me back on this one. I don't know how
<v Speaker 2>many people heard me tell you this story in the
<v Speaker 2>Walmart frozen food aisle. Okay, But they call him up
<v Speaker 2>and they're like, hey, we want you to produce. He's like, okay,
<v Speaker 2>you guys come out here. So they fly out to Switzerland, right,
<v Speaker 2>and they're at his place recording songs, and Chad said,
<v Speaker 2>we got about three songs done and then we had
<v Speaker 2>to go. So you know who mut Lang married, right?
<v Speaker 1>He married Shania Twain.
<v Speaker 2>Right, Shania Twain, whose real name is Eileen. It's not
<v Speaker 2>Senanuel Clemens, as John Ray told this, which was the
<v Speaker 2>best joke I've ever heard. But no, her name is
<v Speaker 2>Eileen and there and they're like, there was some trouble
<v Speaker 2>with Eileen going on, right, So I called you up.
<v Speaker 2>I said, do you know when that dark Horse album
<v Speaker 2>came out? He said two thousand and eight? And I said,
<v Speaker 2>do you know what else happened in two thousand and eight?
<v Speaker 2>You know, I don't know they did something with mut Lang.
<v Speaker 2>I'm like May of two thousand and eight, it was
<v Speaker 2>announced that he and Shanaya Eileen, come on, Eileen, we're
<v Speaker 2>having a little trouble because he was having a little
<v Speaker 2>bit of a relationship with her best friend, Yes, and
<v Speaker 2>she kicked him out of the house. Like he's there
<v Speaker 2>are three songs into this album, and he's like, how
<v Speaker 2>about we go to your house? And so they fly
<v Speaker 2>back across the Atlantic Ocean to go and he lived
<v Speaker 2>with them for like seven months to finish this album up.
<v Speaker 2>So this album was produced by Mutt Lang at the
<v Speaker 2>point that everything was falling apart with Eileen.
<v Speaker 1>Hi, guys, I'm calling you from my car which has
<v Speaker 1>a hammer through the windshield right now. That's hilarious.
<v Speaker 2>By the way. Shanaia nearly sixty years old, looking good,
<v Speaker 2>Still looking good.
<v Speaker 1>By the way. The song reached number nine on the
<v Speaker 1>Hot one hundred. This is another top ten hit. Next
<v Speaker 1>song on the album, there's a song called Burnet to
<v Speaker 1>the Ground.
<v Speaker 2>This is definitely one that found its way into the
<v Speaker 2>workout playlist. This is freaking awesome. You want to talk
<v Speaker 2>about vacuous lyrics, Yes, these are vacuous lyrics. Can I
<v Speaker 2>tell you about a song called girls girls, girls, Can
<v Speaker 2>I tell you about a song called pour some Sugar
<v Speaker 2>on Me? Can I tell you about a song called Panama?
<v Speaker 2>Or Hot for Teacher? Or slide it in any of
<v Speaker 2>these songs? But heck, do they kick some ass?
<v Speaker 1>Yes?
<v Speaker 2>They do, and so does this.
<v Speaker 1>This song was featured on the Transformers Revenge of the
<v Speaker 1>Fallen soundtrack. And if you ever went to a Kansas
<v Speaker 1>City Royals game, Colorado Rockies, Baltimore Orioles, Cincinnati Bengals, Dallas Cowboys,
<v Speaker 1>Steetle Seahawks, New York Islander, Chicago Blackhawks, or saw the
<v Speaker 1>movie Date Night, you heard this song.
<v Speaker 2>So there are some people out there that still like Nicolbodd.
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely there are. This was the third most played song
<v Speaker 1>at sporting events in the two thousand and nine twenty
<v Speaker 1>ten range. Can you name the number one one?
<v Speaker 2>It's got to be Hurricane by Scorpions.
<v Speaker 1>It's we Will Rock You. Of course, I do like
<v Speaker 1>what Buddy Joey Moi, who was the original producer said
<v Speaker 1>about the song. When he heard the first version of
<v Speaker 1>the song, he said, I don't know, guys, it doesn't
<v Speaker 1>make me want to pump my fist in the ear
<v Speaker 1>and crack open a beer. So they kept working on it.
<v Speaker 1>Finally Joey said, now I want to crack open a beer.
<v Speaker 1>Now I want to party with my buddies. Now I
<v Speaker 1>want to crank the song. And now it's doing all
<v Speaker 1>that I thought this song should do. Great song.
<v Speaker 2>Oh it's a rocker is yeah, it's this is a
<v Speaker 2>song to crack a beer and have fun with your
<v Speaker 2>buddies with one hundred percent right, hop down, turn it up. Banger. Okay,
<v Speaker 2>So there are no less than eight singles that come
<v Speaker 2>off of this Star Cors album. Eat singles, eight singles.
<v Speaker 2>I told you man full of bangers. I just I'm
<v Speaker 2>not going to go into detail on these songs. I'm
<v Speaker 2>just going to give you, Hey, this made it onto
<v Speaker 2>the workout playlist. These are songs that will pump you
<v Speaker 2>up and put more weight on the bar. All right, yeah, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>So number one is something in your Mouth and let
<v Speaker 2>me just let me just say this, let me just
<v Speaker 2>say this. When I started listening to these guys, I
<v Speaker 2>was like, if nobody else in the world can be
<v Speaker 2>thankful for Nickelback, at least the strippers can be thankful
<v Speaker 2>for Nickelback, because if it was not for Nickelback, they'd
<v Speaker 2>still be dancing to Motley Crue and def Leppard.
<v Speaker 1>That's right, exactly right.
<v Speaker 2>And this this song Something in Your Mouth is definitely
<v Speaker 2>one of those songs.
<v Speaker 1>I love it.
<v Speaker 2>So this song only made it up to ninety six
<v Speaker 2>on the Hot one hundred, but was number one on
<v Speaker 2>the mainstream rock charts. Okay, the other song, as I
<v Speaker 2>said in the same vein, is called Shaken Hands. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>I mean this is another great stripper song, of course,
<v Speaker 2>and you know what, the Shirley we Can Be Serious podcast,
<v Speaker 2>we love our stripper. So this one made it up
<v Speaker 2>to number eleven on the US Mainstream Rock and number
<v Speaker 2>twenty four on the Hot Rock and Alternative Songs. And
<v Speaker 2>so those are two amazing bangers off of this album
<v Speaker 2>full of bangers. But we gotta keep going or we'll
<v Speaker 2>never get done. That's it for dark Horse. Did you
<v Speaker 2>have another song you wanted to talk about?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I just had another one that really struck my
<v Speaker 1>ear and I really enjoyed it, and so I wanted
<v Speaker 1>to play it for everybody, kind of cap it off.
<v Speaker 1>That song is a cover of Don Henley's Dirty Laundry.
<v Speaker 3>Living News, Just me something stinting news when you lose.
<v Speaker 2>So what a perfect song for this band. Cover number one,
<v Speaker 2>I love the song, one of my favorite Don Henley
<v Speaker 2>songs from the eighties. Absolutely loved it. Number two. Song
<v Speaker 2>is very well about Nickelback, even though it's not kick
<v Speaker 2>them when up, kick them when they're down. Yep, everybody
<v Speaker 2>loves their dirty lune.
<v Speaker 1>Yes that is.
<v Speaker 2>This is almost like a dece So it's perfect that
<v Speaker 2>they're playing this song that almost defines the media reaction
<v Speaker 2>to them as a band.
<v Speaker 1>It's so fun.
<v Speaker 6>I love it.
<v Speaker 1>By the way, just one little nugget on the original version,
<v Speaker 1>Don Henley reached number three in the Hot one hundred.
<v Speaker 1>It was blocked by a man eater and the girl
<v Speaker 1>is mine.
<v Speaker 4>I love it.
<v Speaker 1>I love that song so d That wraps up our
<v Speaker 1>coverage of Nickelback, and I will tell you that before
<v Speaker 1>we started this matchup between Nickelback and Creed, I had
<v Speaker 1>already spiked the football, I had done the post game
<v Speaker 1>press conference, and I had showered and was on my way. Okay,
<v Speaker 1>I am here to tell you that that was premature,
<v Speaker 1>and I'm anxious to tell you what my final judgment
<v Speaker 1>is next week.
<v Speaker 2>When you're saying Nickelback versus Creed, Nickelback versus Creed because
<v Speaker 2>you're a huge Creed Creed fan.
<v Speaker 1>I started off as a huge Creed fan. Yes, okay, yea,
<v Speaker 1>I am a huge Creed fan.
<v Speaker 2>Okay. So next week come back for that episode where
<v Speaker 2>we'll talk about whether Creed is worth the hate or not.
<v Speaker 2>I had their CDs, I enjoyed them, I know the stuff.
<v Speaker 2>But you'll have to tune in next week to find
<v Speaker 2>out whether they're deserving of all of the hate that
<v Speaker 2>they get. As I said, they were the number one spot,
<v Speaker 2>nudged out Nickelback for the most hated band, so it'll
<v Speaker 2>be fun to dive in and see whether they are
<v Speaker 2>worth the hate or not. Thank you so much for this.
<v Speaker 2>We can't tell how much we appreciate your support. We
<v Speaker 2>see you next week.