2025-10-03- KSR - Hour 1

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Speaker 2: This is Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage.

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Speaker 3: Now here's Matt Jones.

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Speaker 4: Welcome everyone.

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Speaker 5: It is Kentucky Sports Radio. Friday, October the third. I met Jones here in Louisville, Kentucky, and an absolutely great crowd at Shady Rays in Louisville.

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Speaker 6: At the Oxmoor Mall.

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Speaker 6: Guys. Nice to see you all after a little bit of time off.

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Speaker 7: Welcome back, Yeah, how about our boy back finally after forever.

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Speaker 5: We're here at Shady Rays in Louisville. I want to fake this crowd. Okay, so I've been gone now about three weeks.

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Speaker 6: I come in.

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Speaker 5: This is, without question, the best crowd we've had at Shady Rays in Louisville, and one of the better crowds we've had in Louisville h for a non uk U of L preview game. Maybe of all time. Ryan, this is a great way to come back into the States and get going. Is looking at this massive set of blue in Jefferson County.

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Speaker 7: But Drew and I we tried to rally the troops yesterday said hey, let's welcome back back home the right way.

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Speaker 8: Let's all show up and blue. Let's all show up at Shady Raise and welcoming back and back to the air waves. Perfect timing.

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Speaker 5: Wait do you go people, thank you and for Shady Rays here while you're here during the show today in Louisville. Buy one, get one fifty percent off in Shady Rays here in Louisville.

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Speaker 6: But it's only during the show. By one get one fifty percent off.

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Speaker 5: They just showed me they have a new Bourbon Drew sunglasses and if you get it, the case comes with the UK state flag on which I think is very nice that the handshake going on there.

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Speaker 6: How are you doing?

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Speaker 5: I feel like I've talked to you because of Cover zero, although I feel like I've.

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Speaker 6: Not talked to anyone else in the world except you.

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Speaker 4: I've tried to give them updates.

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Speaker 9: I I feel like I've had stolen Matt time with our Cover zero twice a week, so I've tried to let them know how things have been going. But I know you have a lot of stories to tell.

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Speaker 6: Well, I'll do it through the course of the show.

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Speaker 5: I got back last night after a sixteen hour flight from Johannesburg to New York and then New York to Louisville.

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Speaker 6: Awesome trip.

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Speaker 5: I'm sure over the course of the next week or two I will tell stories about it, but overall, absolutely awesome.

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Speaker 6: South Africa was great. It is beautiful.

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Speaker 5: I would say Cape Town is probably the most beautiful city I've ever been to in the world, and just visually mountains surrounding it ocean. It's just absolutely beautiful place. Went on a safari, which was unbelievable. You know, had an elephant from me to you sitting there staring at me. Made me a little nervous a couple times, but that was all right. Lions, you know, rhinos, hippos and like not just seeing them, but they're right next to you and there's nothing in between you and them, which is which is a lot. And then Johannesburg, you know, might be the most chaotic place I've ever been on Earth, without question. You know, Statistically it's one of the most dangerous cities in America. And while I didn't feel danger necessarily, I can totally see why that.

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Speaker 6: Is the case. But overall, one of the best trips I've been on in my life. Right, I absolutely loved it.

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Speaker 7: I say, We've got a million questions, but I think one thing everybody wants to know is did you really sleep in a tent?

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Speaker 6: Was that? I can't sleep in a tent? Now, if you watch the video on Instagram, it doesn't.

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Speaker 4: It looks a little.

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Speaker 6: More sparse than it was. But it was a tent, you know, I mean, it had just.

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Speaker 5: A lining on it. It was a nice tin. I'm not gonna act like I was roughing it. It was was a nice tent with a nice bed. But I did sleep in the in the as they call it, in the bush out there drew with with the animals. There was an electric fence between us and them, so they couldn't come into our our rooms. But I got up one day, looked outside and there were they, you know, these little they call them spring box.

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Speaker 6: Just running around right like, right up next to your tents.

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Speaker 9: I think they called that glamping. It's in the camp. You just have a nice thread count on your sheets.

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Speaker 6: But bread gown, did you repel?

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Speaker 4: I know that's one thing you were worried about.

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Speaker 5: Well, I did not repel. But the reason is what was the bigger theme of the trip, which is I broke my phone quickly into it. Now, if you didn't listen to Cover zero, I broke my phone by spilling coke on it in my pocket while going to Nelson Mandela's prison. Shit that was, which is not how most people lose their phone.

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Speaker 2: A pocket coke. I've never heard of.

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Speaker 5: Pocket coke. I'll tell you the story in a minute. But I had a pocket coke. But what it led to is. You know, I was there eighteen days starting on day five. I didn't have a phone, and you know, it's not crazy to say I'm pretty reliant on my phone, but I would argue even if you all aren't as addicted to your phones as I am. It is a nerve wracking experience to be in a country you do not know, in places that you do not know, some of which are places that are a little sketchy, without a phone and really no way to communicate because when I tried to log into things, they would all send verifications to the phone that I could not get to. So the only thing I couldn't send text messages. The only thing I could do is I could I message, but I could only I message people who I had talked to on my iPad before, which was only like a handful of people. It was like my mom Drew, you know, probably ten people total. So if you weren't one of those ten, I could not communicate with you, couldn't get into any apps in any social media except for some reason Instagram and otherwise, was just kind of cut off from the world. I had no ability to communicate. And that is when you are in a place that you do not know. Just think about like, Uber, if I had to go out, I had to figure out how am I gonna get home?

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Speaker 6: I can't call a taxi. I don't have a phone, right, yeah, you know what I mean. Yeah, there was just no.

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Speaker 5: Like you literally had to sit and think, Okay, if I go there, how am I gonna get back? And that was the whole thing, because I like to just roam, couldn't quite do.

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Speaker 2: This is the first time I've communicated with you since you left. And to your point, I don't even want to be in Saint Matthew's without a phone, let alone South Africa, So I can't even imagine how it would be without.

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Speaker 5: Being in Johannesburg without a phone is probably one of the few times I've ever been where I was like at every move trying to.

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Speaker 6: Think, Okay, what do we do here? What do we do here?

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Speaker 5: So that and I'm with a group of people the second half of the troop though at the eight women, I don't know those people.

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Speaker 6: Really, you know, So that also made it ryan different.

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Speaker 7: I think it would rattle anybody to be in a foreign country with no access to the people in case you need to reach somebody yeah.

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Speaker 8: I guess you told the story he drew about the yogurt shop. I mean that was early on.

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Speaker 6: That was by the way.

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Speaker 5: Then when I went back, I saw that I could have gone to the yogurt shop on my own, Drew, I think I would have been fined.

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Speaker 6: I don't think anything would have happened to me in that neighborhood.

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Speaker 4: Well, that was like when you first got there. Yeah, you're so on high alert.

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Speaker 6: But it was an awesome trip.

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Speaker 5: Those of you that do follow me on Instagram, which is k Y Sports Radio, thank you guys. You were honestly my connection back home. People were sending like dms and messages and it was great. So, uh, I want to tell stories as we go.

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Speaker 6: I missed.

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Speaker 5: I didn't get to watch Ryan any of the of any of the Kentucky games, didn't see any of Eastern Michigan, didn't see any of South Carolina. On the flight home yesterday, I watched the first half of the South Carolina game and I was so disgusted, uh somewhere over the Atlantic Ocean that I stopped it at the end of the first half.

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Speaker 6: So that's kind of where I am on having watched the games.

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Speaker 7: I think It's fair to say that second quarter of the South Carolina game one of the worst quarters of UK football in a long, long time, and everything that could go wrong did go wrong. Offense couldn't move to the football. Defense, Well, the defense had a couple of short touchdowns they gave up.

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Speaker 8: But what do you expect?

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Speaker 6: You know?

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Speaker 8: Tom Hart did reference.

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Speaker 6: I heard he made a lot of references to my trip. Is that right?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: He said, it's like seeing a giant tortoise on the beach one day and penguin's on the beach the next day.

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Speaker 4: Did see penguins?

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Speaker 5: Let me tell you someth When you're with a group drew of eight women, they get very excited about the penguins.

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Speaker 4: I mean, who doesn't get excited.

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Speaker 5: Very excited about the pequins. I mean, I didn't realize penguins were as big a deal to people. They were very excited about the penguins.

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Speaker 9: Did you have an animal that you were really excited to see? Did you freak out over like a hyena? Or you told a story about some some bamboos?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so you know when the elephants gets so close to you, I don't know, Shannon, that's kind of cool.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I mean those are massive you know anything, those are massive beans. And when they come up right next to you and their little snout comes out and it's probably from me to you, yeah, and you just go.

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Speaker 3: Wow, did you give us some peanuts?

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Speaker 6: Supposed to know?

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Speaker 5: I mean, they were very adamant about do not stick your hands out.

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Speaker 2: There was a story, I don't know if you're aware of this, there was a world story about somebody in South Africa just a couple of days ago that got attacked by an elephant in South Africa.

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Speaker 3: I thought, I hope that's.

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Speaker 5: Not that, but I can totally see how it happens, because you get you start thinking about them like they're toys, you know, because they're just right there and you're like, oh, isn't that sweet?

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Speaker 6: But they're not sweet.

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Speaker 3: They want to cuddle up with an elephant.

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Speaker 5: And then the hippo. Now we were farther away. But you know, I don't know if you've ever seen videos of hippos like those are. It's not like the little hungry, hungry hippo, right, and those things will come after you. And so yeah, I mean it was very cool. But you know, there's a lion from like me, to that woman right there. Those kind of things.

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Speaker 3: Are what kind of defense did you have?

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Speaker 6: You don't?

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Speaker 5: I mean the woman that was driving us around, I think she had a gun. So like things got but you know where you go. I don't know if a gun stops an elephant. To be honest with you, well, elephants are big.

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Speaker 3: I gotta outrun it.

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Speaker 6: No, it's not me, especially the old line.

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Speaker 4: You just got to be faster than those eight women.

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Speaker 3: Faster than elephant, or at least one of them.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so the eight women that so first of all, the first eight or nine days was me on my fellowship. It was all in Cape Town. That was great, Uh, you know that was I love those people. They've become good friends of mine. And then it was me and eight women for the next ten or eleven days that I did not know. Ended up really liking all of them. But that was a transition being one man with eight women. You know, you have to see, you had to get used to it. They ended up being great, and I liked all of them, and they there from all over.

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Speaker 6: But you know I was, I.

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Speaker 5: Was like, it's weird to be the I don't know that I was the manliest person to be honest with you just because you know I'm I'm not. I'm not that alpha, but I but I kind of had to be for this trip.

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Speaker 8: So I was gonna ask you, did they hold your hand and walk you through?

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Speaker 6: It's South Africa is like a very patriarchal.

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Speaker 5: Society, like like everyone talks to the man, which is you know that's weird, Like everyone talks to the man. So like I had to people would come to me like I was a spokesperson for the group, and I wasn't. I mean, I learned when you drew You're like, where y'all want to go, That's where I'll go, right, I sound like you rhyme, but that's true. When I have eight of them, wherever y'all want to go, I'll go. So I ended up being very differential. I probably talked less on the second half than you. You wouldn't recognize that you.

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Speaker 2: Need to add some females to ks on. That's how we get Mathew finally stop talking as much.

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Speaker 3: But I would say, though, you.

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Speaker 6: Know what Jerry, I'm talking about, Okay, talking.

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Speaker 2: About if I walked around though, when I saw one guy with eight women surround him, I'm I five man man, you had to be the most popular guys out there.

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Speaker 6: It's no doubt that some people talk to me like these were my eight.

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Speaker 4: Wives, your reality show.

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Speaker 6: Some people would.

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Speaker 5: Talk like that, and I'd be like, no, it's not like that, which is they're just teach to repel. But I didn't get to repel. To answer your question, I didn't get repelled because that was the day I was trying to get my phone fixed and uh, but I broke my phone. If you didn't listen to Cover zero, I told this story on there in more detail. We got on a boat to go to where Nelson Mandela was held in prison. It's called Robin Island, and if you ever get to go, highly recommend going. I mean, Nelson twenty seven years in prison is one thing to hear about here about it's another thing to see. And it's a island about four miles off the coast of Cape Town.

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Speaker 6: You have to take you have to take a boat. It's very rocky weather, so like.

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Speaker 5: This is where the Pacific Ocean, excuse, the Atlantic Ocean the Indian Ocean come together and it makes it very bumpy and rocky. The boat trip was very, very rocky, and they said make sure you sit down so that you don't fall. So I had a seat right, and then this woman comes over to me. She's nine, she's probably in her eighties nineties, from the rural parts of South Africa. She was with a group of ten women who were coming to Robin Island from for the first time. It was clearly very special to them, right, these ten or twenty women, you know, they're like grandma's And you know I have a soft spot Ride, Yeah, you really do. I have a soft spot for grandma's. And if ten or twenty women are coming from rural South Africa to see Nelson Mandela's prison for the first time, Drew, that's a heartwarming story. And who am I to get in the way of that? So I help these women on the boat. I helped because what safety is not a thing. They're big on a lot of stuff, So helping these women on the boat, etc.

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Speaker 6: Well we're out on the boat. This woman sitting over here. I'm here.

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Speaker 5: She just gets up in the middle of the boat, ride looks at me and goes looks at me, points and goes, get thump out of that chair. I just looked at her and she said get up and I was like, well, okay, what if you say whatever you say Auntie, like right, and then someone takes her chairs. The point is now, I got to stand during this thing, and I was drinking a coke and I was having a hard time having balance. This was the rockiest water I've ever been in. So I put my coke in the pocket of my jacket. I forgot my phone was in there too, and so when it started rocking, I got thrown into a wall. Coke poured over my phone and drew. That's how I ended up ruining my iPhone in South Africa.

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Speaker 9: I loved the trust in an open coke in the pocket and out the phone though like that's just gonna stay.

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Speaker 6: It did not work, and that's shanon how I ended up without it.

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Speaker 3: You didn't have another pocket on the other side of you.

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Speaker 6: I did, but I was trying not to throw up.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So there's.

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Speaker 5: Probably very few people who can say they ruined their iPhone Ryan at the island where Nelson Mandela was held for twenty seven years.

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Speaker 6: But I actually was one who did that with pocket coats the pocket with a pocket coat. I did it.

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Speaker 7: So did was it a little liberating? Though you're not attached to your phone twenty four hours a day.

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Speaker 5: It was, but it was first of all, yes, like and you know, we here's one of the things I think that I realize from it. A lot of the bs that we take in every day.

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Speaker 6: We don't need to do that, sure, we really don't.

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Speaker 5: It's something that arguing and the yell, we really don't need it, Like you can really cut that out of your life, and it can be there's no reason to sit there and watch people scream at each other. We choose to do that. We don't need to do that.

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Speaker 6: So that was good.

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Speaker 5: But what I did miss was communicating with people, and I did feel detached from like this world, this big blue nation world, and I missed that, but I didn't miss.

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Speaker 6: A lot of the other stuff.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 9: Last Saturday during the game, I poured diet coke on my phone and my TV trying to not watch that.

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Speaker 4: So we were in a good spot.

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Speaker 5: But I want to talk about that because I do think there's a lot to talk about about the status of UK football.

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Speaker 6: The Athletic. The writer for The Athletic called.

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Speaker 5: Me and I think after the Georgia game, the Athletics doing a pretty big feature on will Mark Stoops survive at Kentucky and we talked for a long time. I want to talk about that. And I also have to note while I was gone, the Reds made the playoffs. We will do all of that and be right back here in Louisville. This is Kentucky Sports Radio.

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Speaker 6: We'll go back.

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Speaker 5: It is Kentucky Sports Radio AM nine two eight oh twenty two eighty seven. Uh text machine seven seven two seven seven four five two five four, So I don't have access to the text machine, so I can't read question. So I'm gonna give a couple that people wrote me on Instagram that I'll answer real quick. One person, rights, Matt Uh, what would you recommend coming back going to South Africa on a trip for other people?

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Speaker 6: Yes, I think it's awesome.

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Speaker 5: A lot of the stereotype, you know what, people got me worried before I left Drew because everybody was going, oh, you're it's dangerous. They don't they're gonna you know, it's it's fine, Like you do have to keep your I'm not gonna lie. You have to keep your wits about you. Like there are parts of town that the locals said to me, I wouldn't go in those parts. So it's just you have to you have to know where you are. But in general, I definitely would go. I think a lot of the stereotypes that i'd heard before were not true at all. I think we just we just sort of take it for granted that whatever we hear from media about the rest of the world, well, that has to be how it is. I didn't find that to be the case, although I will not that Johannesburg is chaotic and wild. So but if you went, if you just went to Cape Town, you'd have an amazing blast.

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Speaker 4: I'd rather go to johannes Very That's fun to me.

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Speaker 9: If only you had pictures to show us of all this, I would like to in your brain.

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Speaker 6: No pictures.

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Speaker 5: I did ask some of the women with me if they would take pictures so that I could have them when so that I could prove the people I went.

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Speaker 8: If there's one of you standing on the shores of what Cape Fear?

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Speaker 6: Cape Fear is No, that's a movie, and that's that'd be cool. That's a movie. And that's in North Carolina. Sorry.

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Speaker 5: Close the Cape of Good Hope, Cape of Good Hot stood on the Edge, which which was maybe the most beautiful view I've ever seen in my life, Cape of Good Hope, right the southwest tip of Africa, where you look out into the ocean. That was very I did get a video, but again I didn't take that chin and I had to get somebody to take it.

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Speaker 2: For I understand now going back to the yogurt story real quick, because this is the one I want to focus on for just a second. When the guy said that you need a chaperone across the street, yes, did you not think that maybe this guy he lives there, he knows what he's talking about.

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Speaker 3: Maybe I should take him up on that.

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Speaker 5: Well, So I drove in in the middle of the night or had an uber so I couldn't see the surrounding neighbor. But there was, like I could see across the street a mall, so I thought, you know, I can get that yogurt. Turns out he was ridiculous. Right next to the yogurt store was a rolex place I would have been fined. Yeah, but there are parts of the I will say, to be fair to the guy, there are parts of that city that I wouldn't have gone without a like we So I went to a park called Soweto and if you get the chance y'all to look it up sometime, it's called Soweto for Southwest Territories. Basically, during apartheid, the government any African American that was living in parts of the city, they just moved them all out. They made them all leave and go out, and they created these shanty towns on the outside of town and they made them all move there. They basically this is like in the fifties and sixties, just completely moved out millions of people. So we went walking through one of those places, and I mean, I'll I'll remember it forever. It's the worst poverty I've ever seen in my life. You know, there's a lot of times I'm the same way. We complained about how bad things are and this and that. There's a lot I complained about in America. There's a lot of other people complained about. You guys should say a prayer every single night of thanks because you, like you can't you can't picture how some people in this world have to live. Some of the saddest scenes that I've ever seen, And we went walking through them. And I've been to the poorest parts of apple Atch up in the Hollers and I've seen some places that are very, very sad. Now, imagine you take those places and you put a million people and you make them live on top of each other, right like on top of each other, eight people in a room the size fifteen people in the room of the.

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Speaker 6: Size of this shady race right here.

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Speaker 5: So when you see that, it's it's disheartening and it's tough, and it's you know, it's nerve wracking. Listen, when you're six foot four and you look like me and you're you're white, and you're walking through these places, you start to know like you can't help but feel like everyone's looking at you and you can't help it. But I'm so glad I did it, because there will be a time where I will have something that I'm really upset about and I'll be ready to complain, and I will just sit and think of that image, Ryan, and go, you know what, things are pretty good here. There's I'm standing here in a city where everyone here has access to pretty much everything, even if they're not and if they don't have money, a lot of money, you can get by.

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Speaker 6: Like it's a different thing over there.

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Speaker 8: Sad just hearing you talk about it.

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Speaker 6: It is such your heart.

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Speaker 5: Listen, that society is got the greatest wealth disparity of any society in the country. You can see some of the nicest mansions you've ever seen in your life. Drive four blocks and people are living in absolute squalor and it's four blocks away, and you just go, goodn crief, How in the world does this happen?

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Speaker 8: Was this part of your the fellowship where you guys it was part of a group field trip.

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Speaker 6: It was actually part of the second part they wanted to see. They want us to see the actual local community. And I'm glad we did it. And then, uh, you know, because.

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Speaker 5: The history there, like, it's a lot of lessons for here, and I don't want to get into all that. I may do that on the Matt Jones podcast sometime, but a lot of lessons. But the thing I learned the most, I'm coming out of there saying I'm going to be more appreciative even in the worst time, Shannon, for what life is like for all of us as apt to you know, it's one.

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Speaker 6: Plane trip away.

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Speaker 5: It's people who share the same earth as us, same God, etcetera, who live a completely different existence than we can even imagine.

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Speaker 2: Gives a whole new perspective that you aren't even really truly aware of. I mean, you see these things, I'm sure, but then when you see them in person, it's got to, you know, change you for the better. And it sounds like you took that away from your trip and.

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Speaker 6: I hope so. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: And also by not having a phone, Yeah, Drew, you're living in the moment walking there, and there's also not because there's nothing else to look at.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean it stinks. We need those reminders, but thanks for sharing that, because we all need to realize how lucky.

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Speaker 6: We came in.

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Speaker 5: But I do want, I do want to make it overall very positive because I did have a great time. Let's talk to you k football when we return. If I'm not two eight oh twenty two eighty seven, very disappointing week in the Georgia.

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Speaker 5: I'll start to remember the ques hearing a minut we are here at Shady Rays by one get one off, fifty percent off two or more during the show today. They also have the new Wildcat blue colourway shaves. They have Kentucky shades in there. Make sure you get them during the show or right after the show today A five nine two eight, twenty two eighty seven. Uh, independent American owned company here at Shady Raise, quickly tell me the summary because I don't know the specifics. What because this was the day I lost my phone. Did Mark Pope and Pat Kelsey get in a fight?

00:23:28
Speaker 7: Uh, didn't get into a fight. It was a take Kenny visiting him, and the period to visit him started at midnight. So apparently Pope had scheduled like twelve midnight to twelve fifteen, and Kelsey was coming in right behind him twelve fifteen to twelve thirty. Well, traffic, things got happened. It was down in Atlanta. Pope got there late, so Kelsey went in.

00:23:47
Speaker 3: A little early.

00:23:48
Speaker 6: Okay.

00:23:49
Speaker 7: So when they came back out, they had a little had some words. No nothing physical, and apparently they even hugged it out when it was over.

00:23:55
Speaker 5: They had words like in his yard, yeah, and he's kind of awesome.

00:23:58
Speaker 6: Sir Franklin, I like I would.

00:24:01
Speaker 5: I imagine you're a high school recruit and two of the biggest coaches in the country, at least one of the biggest, another one really tiny, getting a fight right in your yard.

00:24:08
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's the visual think.

00:24:10
Speaker 9: I think the height differential makes this so much more entertaining. When this first leaked out on message boards in the Internet, it was like, take Kenny's dad has pulled him off of each other and there were baseball bats. It was like, greatly exaggerated there for a little bit, but it does it seems like the consensus has come out that they were yelling at each other pretty good.

00:24:26
Speaker 5: Outside people were riding me Shannon going, what do you think about Mark Pope beating up.

00:24:30
Speaker 6: Pat Kelcey, And I was like, what, yeah, I did.

00:24:33
Speaker 5: I had no context, cause, like I only had access to the news, and it was like, that wasn't on the news, So I go, did that really happen? I was getting excited, but it sounds like maybe.

00:24:44
Speaker 3: It was greatly exaggerated.

00:24:45
Speaker 2: The most embarrassing part of the story, though, is that take Kenny didn't pick either one of them.

00:24:49
Speaker 6: He went to.

00:24:49
Speaker 3: Kansas after all of that, he ended up picking Kansas.

00:24:52
Speaker 5: All right, let's talk to you k football. I watched the first half of South Carolina disaster, every thing, you know, everything that's frustrated me about the last few years. The Stoops era kind of summed up there into the first half. Problems again, two turnovers that end up in touchdowns, an offense that looked completely lost to me. So I had a lot of time to sit and think about it, and Drew, here's where I am. Mark's gotta finish the season, and I think fans should support the team. I know I'm gonna be watching the game tomorrow. Hopefully people come out to ks Bar and root like heck for him. Everybody did against South Carolina. We were full from the South Carolina game of people being excited. Look, we got seven what eight games left? We might as well might as well cheer and be excited. With that said, you can't this can't continue to go on like this. Kentucky football is a and I said this to the athletic yesterday. Right now, to me, it's a terrible combination of not good and boring, which is an awful conversation, all awful combination. Not only do we really not does it not feel like we have a chance to win these games. They're also awful to watch. Our offense is just a complete disaster. I don't blame Cutter Bowley. I gotta be honest with you. I don't really blame Zach Calzada, and I'm now going back and not blaming Broan Vanagriff and not blaming even Devin Leary. At some point, when you bring in four high profile quarterbacks and none of them work, you have to sit there and go, all right, maybe it's maybe it's us.

00:26:28
Speaker 6: Not then, right, At some point you have to say that.

00:26:31
Speaker 5: I also would say when you have an offensive coordinator that was here and is now three and one in the NFL and it's kind of the toast of the NFL and here the offense sputtered, you do have to sit here and ask, well, maybe it's not them, maybe it's us.

00:26:45
Speaker 6: Right, when we have guys that.

00:26:47
Speaker 5: Are playing in the NFL who were free agents that played here and yet we're part of defenses or part of offenses that didn't have success, at some point you have to sit here and say, maybe it's not them, maybe it's us. There's only one uncommon denominator and all this. Honestly, it's Mark. And for me, Mark's got eight games or seven games whatever left for me to see if I have any confidence. But at this point, if it doesn't get better, Drew, you can't bring this back next year.

00:27:19
Speaker 6: You cannot.

00:27:20
Speaker 5: You cannot if the program is not significantly better in November, Drew, you can't run this back again.

00:27:26
Speaker 9: No, this is kind of the we're running it back this year because they win and got forty or fifty new players and you hit the reset button and it's all right now. Show us that you've got this back on track. And so far it's not looking to be back on the track, or even near a track at all. I can't even see a track. I hate how you know, the two defensive touchdowns, that's awful. You're not gonna win a game ever like that. But even then it's twenty one to ten in the second quarter. Yes, but when you're Kentucky football, twenty one to ten is lights out.

00:27:55
Speaker 4: It should not be.

00:27:56
Speaker 9: The case that you're an SEC football team and it's over a top ten paid cover and if you're down ten, it's like, well, what could we possibly do down ten? There's just they're not able to create explosive plays or come from behind in a gap, whatsoever. If they don't get that first touchdown in which they did Saturday, if they don't just hang on to that with good defense, then they just can't outscore teams.

00:28:16
Speaker 5: For me, it's a very simple question. And let's I mean, we got a huge crowd here today. I mean, let me just ask, is anyone in this crowd looking forward to watching that game tomorrow?

00:28:29
Speaker 6: Guy? Okay, two guys. That's good.

00:28:31
Speaker 5: We've got one hundred plus people here. There's two guys raising their hand cover. I'm watching it, Ryan. I want us to win, but I'm not looking forward to it because I know what's gonna happen.

00:28:43
Speaker 6: Here's what's going to happen tomorrow.

00:28:45
Speaker 5: We're going to be oddly more competitive than you think, but never have a chance to win the game, and really never have. So we're gonna lose like thirty to thirteen, and it's gonna be like we've always been in it. But there's never gonna be one moment in this game where anybody thinks we had a chance to win the game.

00:29:05
Speaker 6: That's gonna be what it is tomorrow.

00:29:07
Speaker 5: The final score will be maybe it'll be thirty seven thirteen, but it was like twenty to thirteen halfway through the third quarter, and we had the ball with a chance to tie, and then we just got two yards and punted and then that was it. Right, Ryan, that's gonna be the game. We've seen it a million times. I think it's gonna happen again.

00:29:25
Speaker 8: I think you're probably right.

00:29:26
Speaker 7: You know, I gotta admit last weekend and we took the first drive and we got a touchdown. Second drive, we got a field go out like okay, they've got the offense figured out, and then just nothing after that and then you know, Coach Dups on his Coaches show this week didn't offer any excuses, but he also didn't offer any solutions.

00:29:41
Speaker 9: But he also had one phone call from what I understand, yeah, thirty minutes in and not because he wouldn't take them, because no one's calling, Like that's the problem.

00:29:52
Speaker 6: Is apathy.

00:29:53
Speaker 5: The thing that kills your program, Shannon, is apathy. We were getting towards the end of cow with a little bit of apathy. You can't have that. We are in apathy and next week, big blue madness is happening on an off week of UK football at that moment, this show will only be talking about basketball.

00:30:14
Speaker 6: Let's be real.

00:30:14
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm not saying that's what it should be, but that's what it'll be. Every single one of you all will be asking me questions about basketball, will be talking about the roster, will be looking at the schedule. It's gonna be like, it's gonna be out of mind, and then Texas is gonna come.

00:30:30
Speaker 3: Yep, right, Tennessee, and then.

00:30:32
Speaker 6: Tennessee's gonna come.

00:30:34
Speaker 5: And then by the time we get to games that in theory we co it could be competitive against Auburn Vandy. We're gonna be playing basketball against the number one team in America, Purdue. We're gonna have Louisville just around the corner, and those bat football games are gonna be like, well they're on. I guess I'll watch it. But Shannon, apathy is gonna hit and you in twenty twenty five, when nil and everything is so important, you cannot have apathy in your football, and we have it.

00:31:01
Speaker 2: You know, I think back to the Joker Joker Phillips era, the first couple of years of the Mark Stoops era. About this time of year, we all shift our attention to basketball, but then Stupents kind of took that away.

00:31:11
Speaker 3: For a while when I ask with success.

00:31:12
Speaker 2: But now I feel like we're trending back to those early Mark Stoops years to where we're now to the point where we don't care and we're ready for basketball October the third.

00:31:21
Speaker 6: There's one more thing that in this.

00:31:23
Speaker 5: When I was talking to the athletic yesterday, they were talking Drew about and they pointed this out because they were asking they will asked me a question about it. But then he pointed it out, and I went, man, that's a good point, all right. So what teams Drew Ryan are on our level in theory, in the.

00:31:39
Speaker 6: Sec IS programs, What are the teams on our level? Mississippi State, Misissippi State.

00:31:44
Speaker 5: Mississippi State beat a team that was in the playoff last year at home this year, nearly beat Tennessee at home last week. Mississippi State, I think we would all say, is clearly.

00:31:53
Speaker 6: On the rise.

00:31:54
Speaker 5: Who else miss Missouri two years ago went is won ten plus games, would have been in the playoff if we had the current playoff system, and it is five and zero right now.

00:32:04
Speaker 6: It's another one you'd think Vandy is well.

00:32:06
Speaker 5: Vandy is in a game today that's scored again. Game tomorrow, that's game day against Alabama with a chance to really, if they win tomorrow, have a shot.

00:32:14
Speaker 6: At going to the playoff. Vander Built Football. What else? Uh, well, South Carolina was in South Carolina. We are uncompetitive against South Carolina in the last two year.

00:32:25
Speaker 8: They've won the last four in a row again.

00:32:27
Speaker 6: And we have not been competitive in the last two games. Who else?

00:32:31
Speaker 8: Arkansas?

00:32:32
Speaker 5: Arkansas just fired their coach and decided we're not gonna be on this level anymore.

00:32:37
Speaker 6: And they've decided to make a change.

00:32:38
Speaker 5: Now, you just hit the five teams that I think are on Kentucky's level and drew every single one of them. Every single one of them is either much better and on the rise or has made a coaching change. We are definitively sixteenth out of sixteen in the SEC. We are literally definitively there's not even an argument.

00:33:00
Speaker 6: We are sixteenth out of sixteen.

00:33:02
Speaker 3: Drew that.

00:33:03
Speaker 6: You just can't be that. You just can't be that.

00:33:05
Speaker 9: And that's why if you want to talk pony up at nil and the things for Kentucky's at a disadvantage, I'll hear you. When we're having a conversation about trying to knock down the Georgia wall or get to, you know, an SEC championship. But these other schools have just as many disadvantages, Vandy even more, and they figured it out. You can go outside the conference. Look at Indiana right now. I mean they went and got a coaching hire who has completely turned a program that was nothing into a contender and a playoff contender. So you know, we can talk all day about well he doesn't have enough money, Well he has enough money to be better than sixteenth in the country. We'll talk to the money and when you're trying to get to fourth, fifth in the conference. Right now, we just need to not be dead last.

00:33:46
Speaker 6: So our goal here is to at least we may We will never be on the.

00:33:51
Speaker 5: Level of Alabama, Georgia, lsu in like Texas in terms of resources, but our goal was to get to a level that was like the Tennessee, Florida, Old miss that level, well that level, forget that. We're now in the last level that Mississippi State, South Carolina, of Vandy, Arkansas, Missouri, and within that level we are definitively the worst situation. Definitively, it's not even arguable. We're definitively the worst situation. And Ryan, you can't keep that up when they go into this offseason. If they're gonna fix this, they're gonna need twenty million dollars worth of players. Who's given that money? Who's given that money? If you don't have a change, we we have to either improve exponentially or this is gonna have to switch.

00:34:45
Speaker 7: I think what hurts us as a fan that I think we had fought and clawed our way back up to get into that middle tier a little bit. We were ahead of these figh schools you're talking about, but now we've dropped, not just with them, we're below them.

00:34:56
Speaker 5: Yeah, you got an Auburn hat on, sir. We were spoke last year. That was a game.

00:35:01
Speaker 6: If you want to be successful in the SEC, you have to beat Auburn at home. You have to. You have to.

00:35:06
Speaker 5: And when we did, we not win. I think we got dragged if I remember correctly. Now we're going there, Now we're going there. I just don't have any confidence.

00:35:16
Speaker 6: So I hate it. I like Mark Stoops, and I will say this, Mark.

00:35:20
Speaker 5: Stoops is, in my opinion, the best coach Kentucky has had in modern college football in my lifetime, the best and if he and one day when he's gone, everyone should applaud him, and one day we should honor him in the way we've done Tubby Smith and Rick Patino, et cetera. But it's not about what you did in the past, Ryan, it's about the future. And I don't see a way that this fan base can continue on the trajectory.

00:35:45
Speaker 7: It is no because there's no answer for this season. I think we're in just for a long, hard, ugly season. The rest of the way we bought in. You know, they were so quiet this spring. Maybe that's why they were quiet. Maybe they knew we were gonna have a bad season.

00:35:56
Speaker 6: Think they were quite because they knew were gonna stink.

00:35:58
Speaker 9: Maybe so, or maybe then they checked out on the off season completely, even though they deny it, they did. They didn't spring game, they didn't even act like there was a spring game. But part of that was, you know, you talk to people in the.

00:36:09
Speaker 4: Circle who are like, well, it's a quiet confidence.

00:36:11
Speaker 9: They're just gonna catch everyone off guard, right, But they did so now they're here and there's nothing. It's like, well, what did we just do all year?

00:36:17
Speaker 5: I said during the offseason. If you're gonna be like this, will you better be good? You know, if you're not gonna get fans engaged, will you better be good? And they weren't good. UK Federal Credit Union. If you would like to join, you do not have to be a UK gradually. You don't have to be a part of UK to join you. That is a myth. Joining is not an ordeal. Right now, you can go UK Federal Credit Union. Seven local local branches are online and under three minutes you can sign up. Whether you wear blue or not, Wide or not. It is UK Federal Credit Union. Membership eligibility required federally insured by NCUA. We'll take a break and be right back. This is Kentucky Sports Radio quarter back. It is Kentucky Sports Radio here at Shady Race. By the way, I actually got it wrong. It's Shady Race. If you buy two in there today, the entire purchase is fifty percent off. It's not by one. The second one's fifty percent off. The entire purchase is fifty percent off. Wow, so that's pretty good. They got sunglasses in there you can get basically, if you get two of the same one, you get two for the price of one. So that's during the show today and after the show in store. Uh right here, so make sure you do that A fund nine two eight oh twenty two eighty seven. I want to talk some basketball in the second hour. Before we get to that, let's go to a couple other things. Bruce Pearl is no longer the coach. Drew Franklin, I have some strong thoughts about that, But what do you think about him resigning? Apparently he's not gonna run for senate, so I don't know what he's gonna do. But my guess is he's gonna end up with a conservative political talk show.

00:37:39
Speaker 6: That's my guess. But what do you think about him not being a coach?

00:37:42
Speaker 4: I was surprised he actually did it.

00:37:44
Speaker 9: You know, it was rumored for a few weeks that he was considering stepping away for a senate run. But I thought, you know, he has the political interest, He's very open about it. I thought that was just him being a part of the conversation, not that he would actually retire a year removed from what winning and run, winning the regular season, making the final four. I thought he'd still try to go a little bit longer, to try to actually get a national championship since he's been so close.

00:38:08
Speaker 4: So I was shocked.

00:38:09
Speaker 5: What an absolutely ryan, completely selfish action by Bruce Pearl. No, it is, it's completely selfish. Wait till two weeks before the year. Your players cannot transfer, right, you put the school in a position. I mean they can, but they can't really because where are they gonna go? Like everybody else has already filled their rosters. I mean maybe the top guy could go, but most of the guys are gonna be stuck there. Plus the semesters already started it like he waited until they got till the end of the side, Like you can't even enroll at some of these schools this lay.

00:38:45
Speaker 6: Then you make it to where the school has to pick your son.

00:38:48
Speaker 5: Now they were probably gonna pick his son anyway, but you wait till rite before the season, and then they have to pick your son. So you end up with a situation like Villanova did with Jay Wright, where he did it to where they had to pick the assistant and then that guy ended up not being very good. So you're coming completely selfish. You spent the last few months basically saying you didn't want to be the coach, but you didn't have the guts to actually do it. Instead, you trapped everybody and waited until the last minute to do it. Bruce Pearl's a great coach. I think Bruce Pearl's really funny. Really, I like Bruce Pearl. If he came here right now, I'd say, hey man, great to see you. You've done great, we can be friendly. But that was a completely selfish action that now he's done the Jay Wright did, Tony Bennett did. I think these coaches, it is unbelievable to me that they would do that and put their teams in that position.

00:39:39
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, I'm a Bruce Pearl supporter. I've always liked Bruce Pearl, but the timing of it. He put the Auburn basketball program put him in handcuffs. Nothing they can do nothing, They could do, nothing they could do, and they've made it.

00:39:49
Speaker 5: I think Shannon he doesn't even help his son because rather than his son getting an off season to build the team in his image and to get some time, now, if they don't succeed, they'll be they'll put it on his son. He didn't even get that long to do it. He didn't even get to establish he's now he's got his dad's culture with the team. I just I see it. I know we have an Auburn fan. You might disagree with me, but I just think that was just a completely selfish act by him for an otherwise great coach who really has built something awesome at all.

00:40:16
Speaker 3: I agree with you.

00:40:17
Speaker 2: You should have announced that last March. I was also shocked to see the news. Also kind of surprised they signed Steven Pearl to a five year deal. I mean, yeah, exactly, and I think Bruce Pearl they said he's gonna be like an ambassador to the program.

00:40:30
Speaker 3: I'm not really sure what that even means.

00:40:31
Speaker 6: But if you were Steven, would you want him around?

00:40:33
Speaker 4: No.

00:40:34
Speaker 5: I wouldn't want my dad over there. Like like, if you're gonna make it on your own, you need to establish I mean, I could see Bruce showing up at practice and telling Steven shut up and starting to coach.

00:40:44
Speaker 3: Well, he's the ambassador.

00:40:45
Speaker 5: I guess he could do, you know what I mean, Like, I wouldn't want that if I was Steven.

00:40:49
Speaker 9: To be honest, No, I expect Bruce sitting in the corner at practice with a whistle and a clipboard and he won't chime in a lot, but his presence is just enough that it's a distraction and it won't feel like they've really handed things over. I feel like now that we've seen Tony Bennett just do it last year, you mentioned Jay Wright.

00:41:05
Speaker 4: There's probably others at other levels. We don't even know.

00:41:07
Speaker 9: These are three high profile schools. Is this like a move that coaches will start doing with that question like this because there is no doubt at respect programs, because I don't think anyone expects that it's gonna work for Steven and it probably won't work at Virginia and it didn't work at Vildova.

00:41:22
Speaker 5: It's been pretty clear for a while. And by the way, this is fine. He's a grown man, like he has a right to do whatever. It's been clear for a while. His mind is on a different world. He wants to be involved in politics. It's clear he does interview after interview after interview about politics, which is totally fine. But if you want to do that, Bruce, go do it right, Go do it. Maybe you'll be successful, maybe you won't, but go do it. But this, I think Auburn basketball is gonna take a step back, and they didn't need to, and they're going to because of his selfish.

00:41:53
Speaker 7: Yeah, Bruce Pearl built Auburn basketball and one of the best teams in the conference, one of the best teams in the country.

00:41:57
Speaker 8: Stephen Pearl didn't even get the Murray State job.

00:42:01
Speaker 6: That's a really good point to runner up for Murray. Well, you know now be coaching Auburn.

00:42:05
Speaker 5: We'll take a break, come back, talk some the UK basketball next