I wrote a book 10 years ago and no one has found it | EP. 9

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welcome to another episode of catching
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up with Katie we're in a little bit of a
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different location which I guess is new
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for us because we had a location and
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then last week we were in Tulsa and this
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week uh we actually have people staying
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in our Airbnb so we got kicked out but
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that's okay we were out on the porch of
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the Airbnb but let me know if you like
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us changing up the destination I think
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it might be cool on catching up with
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Katie we basically just kind of have a
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little catch-up segment about what's
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happened in the last week and we also
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sometimes do Q&A questions from Facebook
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and YouTube and Instagram and all those
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things and sometimes we just pick topics
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to talk about so my lovely co-host
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Abigail web over here um would you like
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to start us off
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um you how about you start us off with
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the recap the recap yep I mean from the
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last one which was in Tulsa mhm we had
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already said that I don't even think we
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talked about Pico being
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born we we we did a little bit I think
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because I think we did it on Saturday
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night and he was born Friday night so
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Pico has been definitely like the
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highlight of the week just seeing him be
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the cutest thing I've ever seen in my
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life um and then the rest has just been
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kind of like you know getting back at
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the swing of things not being out of
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town um I don't really think anything
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crazy has happened this week the only
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thing is like we have a bunch of people
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in town right now due to the fact that
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Tennessee has a velvet hunt so that
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means like a a really early season deer
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hunt for just one weekend so a lot of
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our out of town friends are here hunting
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and staying with us and that's a really
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fun time so other than that I don't
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really think there's anything going on
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no buzz got a buck apron yeah um he's
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trying to he's been trying to wiener his
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mom so that's the only other
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thing yeah so we're g to talk about
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books books going to talk about books
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that's the topic that is the topic so
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that that's another thing I never know
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what we're going to freaking talk about
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like they just they they scheme and they
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come up with their questions and their
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topics and I don't I'm just left in the
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dark
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so got a little we've got
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a a surprise in store I'm going to ask
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you about later but I guess if you want
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to just talk about like I don't know
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like we've kind of touched on this
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before so you tell me the topic and then
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I just have to talk about it yes I say
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the topic and then you make
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20 minutes of conversation
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about well I okay so I think what I
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think what everyone started talking
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about books is because in the last one
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we had mentioned we made Nate read a
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nasty book through 100 Pages spicy spicy
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book it it was a little nasty I refuse
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to tell you which book it was everyone
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wants to know I will not be subjected to
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that judgment I'm so sorry some things
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are meant to be private um um so no you
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will not find out you can speculate in
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the comments but you will not get any
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kind of confirmation um but yeah I mean
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that's he did finish his 100 Pages he
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did and uh he was horrified I saw
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someone someone wanted like a quick like
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review of what you thought of it if you
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want to say really quick your thoughts
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on the 100
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Pages
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um did you learn anything
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[Laughter]
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I didn't learn anything I didn't like
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reading it it was gross and it made me
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feel weird and I was in public did you
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feel weird huh in public
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oh like me and ab are just sitting there
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reading it blank faces no just casually
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over there he's just like we look over
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and he's like it's just vile
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vile words they
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said
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stop didn't I didn't like it I didn't
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like it I don't know if we can leave
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this in there all right well that's not
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the only type of books I I want to clear
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that up like sure we have like a little
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like me Abigail uh my best friend
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Rebecca who we would love to have on
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here chat chatting one day um we we all
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read like the same books at the same
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time sometimes and then have something
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to talk about um and sometimes it's like
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not necessarily for the education or
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gaining anything it's just it's
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entertainment yes um so yeah I don't
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only read that though I really do like
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um like I was big on Aragon growing up
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big on um like the Harry Potter series
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and like things like that like so I like
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fantasy and I like there it to be like
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another world I don't really like
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reading about anything like if they a
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cell
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phone done for me I don't love it so
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like a big series we both like is aatar
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MHM and I think that's like a huge like
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thing right now which you haven't
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finished
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no I keep getting distracted I need to
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finish the third one because then we
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were going to do that's my homework
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before we go to the Congress because
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when we drive to the Congress we're
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going to do the audio book mhm on the
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way there cuz we have like five hour a
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five hour drive of the
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of yeah of of Nesta and cassian's book
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um so like I like that kind of stuff
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obviously that one does have romance and
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like a spice to it but like it's not
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that's not the whole book it's I would
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say that's probably what most people
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read it for though but it's because the
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spice is so good in that though because
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there's so many like there is a plot and
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there is a a world there's other stuff
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leading up to it it's not just like yeah
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I like the world the World building in
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it like when like if a book comes at the
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map right it's going to be a good one
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but I feel like the TV show or movie or
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whatever they're making is going to ruin
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it probably I'll probably get so mad
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just because of who they cast like
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there's no way they cast who I'm
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thinking in my head but I'm also
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probably not thinking of an actual human
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in my head who would you pick for I say
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Ry sand I know that's I know that's not
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how you pronounce it or how you're
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supposed to pronounce it but Reese just
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doesn't sound manly to me I know there's
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been some here's the thing I've seen
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some people that i' like that's reand
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but like they might not be good
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actors you know what I'm saying yeah
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who's
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yours I'm not going to say because
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you're gonna is it Jacob a lordy yes
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Jesus he would be no he would not yes he
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would he's not he is nowhere near
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reand in my head he is first off in my
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head he is first off he's white
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okay he's not like Ran's not white well
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he's like tan he's
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like he's like Tan White um my other
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pick my first pick actually my first
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thought was Timothy shamay because when
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I read even come at me with that when I
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read it I pictured I know maybe not
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following the
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description like the fan art that I've
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seen of him doesn't match what I had in
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my head at all I pictured him with kind
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of like longer curly hair and that's
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what Timothy shalam gives so Timothy
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shalam is I don't even want you to like
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say that to me ever again he doesn't
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have the build for it or the face or the
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voice facial structure is the voice for
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reand I think he has a nice voice I
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would say matches no we don't we have
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different tasting men those are yeah we
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do we do that's what I'm saying those
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are my two like celebrity crushes yours
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is Henry
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caval and that's the thing I don't even
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think Henry caval is recent a lot of
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people put him as that he's too old now
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yeah but maybe Henry caval and the
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tutors you didn't watch that no like
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you'd like that I think um Henry Cav and
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the tutors was like 2010 I don't even
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know I don't late who I would
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pick cuz like yes I like those two but I
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don't know that they would be the
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perfect fit for him I do think Henry K's
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voice is reand what about Luc Lucian or
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is it Lucian or Lucian I say Lucian I
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say
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Lucian I say everything wrong whenever I
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talk to like I'll talk to Rebecca about
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like the books we've been reading and
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how she says their names versus how I
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say them it's so different I mean that's
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just yeah that's just how it goes but
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okay so what's your favorite book
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series I feel like we like the same
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types of books but you like Mysteries I
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do I like Thrillers real quick I want to
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Katie um I
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wouldn't say that any of those are like
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my favorite though because I like series
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because you I feel like you can get
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really like into it and it draws it out
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um I really liked from blood and Ash
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which was I think something that came
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out in a similar time to acatar or at
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least became popular at like the same
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time with like book talk and everything
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um you haven't read that have you you
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would like it it's it's kind of the same
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but in like a little more Tamer I would
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say in that way in that way yeah in that
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way it's not all about that but like the
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plot is really
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good I don't know if all those have are
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done coming out though there's like six
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of them I think so I don't I don't know
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if I have a favorite I've heard thrown
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of glass is really slow to get into read
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it I've heard people say that when they
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read acatar first they didn't like
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thrown of glass Throne of Glass as much
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cuz they're written by the same author
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well you said we were talking about
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books I want you to talk about your
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book how dare
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you that was in the confidence of a
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Texas Airbnb
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um I've written a
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couple never finished and I will not
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tell you where they are available to
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read because you probably guess they're
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still on the internet
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um I was in high school I actually do
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like writing like I've always felt like
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that was a you know something I I felt
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good at and I
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feel I feel like putting my thoughts on
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paper is decently easy to me and back
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when I was reading a lot a lot I felt
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like you know you get kind
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of words in your head from other authors
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and you it kind of gives you more ideas
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I think it'd be a lot harder for me to
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get back into it right now when all I've
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been reading is just like terrible
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writing um but but yeah I did do a
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couple of
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books can you just like give us just
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like the gist of of one of them it's so
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embarrassing
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so embarrassing I think people will like
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it mind you I was SE 16 and 17 it's not
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embarrassing I feel like it's cool that
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you wrote anything I forgot honestly
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what they were titled as but I know what
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the plot was so the first
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one was about a girl who her father was
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a scientist and was working on time
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travel I'm sure that it was not laid out
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well
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okay and she accidentally time
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traveled and went back to whatever year
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the Hatfield and Mccoy's Feud was
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happening I I'm sure you can imagine
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this was when the Hatfield McCoy
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miniseries had come out and I was
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obsessed with johy Hatfield okay like
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it's a whole thing well she goes there
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she like
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you know tries to find civilization she
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winds up on the McCoy side of things and
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then there's like a you know she falls
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in love whatever well then her best
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friend had like found out what she did
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her best friend also time travels to go
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save her I think she tells her dad or
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something and her dad's like you have to
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go you have to be the one to do it why
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didn't he go I don't I don't because
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then there wouldn't be the love story
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okay because then her best friend
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travels to go gave her lands on the H
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field side of things okay then she falls
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finds somebody falls in love I never got
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past really that okay
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okay so then the more complex book that
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I wrote and I don't even remember how
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many chapters I got into it I don't this
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is the one that I know about I didn't
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even know about the other one so this
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one I honestly I think I named it like
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or something like that cuz that was like
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name it's Brave you're putting the title
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out oh
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shoot no leave it in no leave it please
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please leave it in please you have to
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bleep
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it you have to bleep
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it you have to bleep it is it under your
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name or is it under like a ghost ghost I
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think it's I think it's a pseudonym I
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think I had a pseudonym but still
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so this other one I I was very proud of
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the thought process that I because I put
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a lot of time into it I used to make my
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friends at high school like I would
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write a chapter and then send it to them
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and they had to read it and we' talk
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about it at school okay I was like such
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a little nerd proud of at the time very
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proud of it at the time again I didn't
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finish it I was a little quitter um but
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the concept was um the main character is
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a demon in hell and in hell
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there
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are like like demons that have lives and
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like emotions and all this stuff and
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they are being like raised by Lucifer as
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his army to go
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to the and again this is totally fiction
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this isn't anything about like my
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religious beliefs but like um I'm a
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Christian
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but there was a Redemption for these
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demons okay um so they were being like
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raised up and it was almost like I was
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very much into like Vampire Academy and
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things like that it was almost like
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their initiation their graduation into
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like being demons okay they're given a
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mate they're given a human on earth to
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possess they're given a like you're
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going here to screw all this up
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basically um and so it follows her
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follows her story um of going to you
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know Earth possessing someone there's
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like a bunch of different point of views
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in it um but
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then like she has her mate like there's
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like that process of it there's her
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fighting with like she doesn't feel evil
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she doesn't want like she feels for this
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person that she's being yeah like called
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to possess um and then there's like
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angels that come into it and there's
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there's like a Redemption Arc for her
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sounds good like I would read it so I
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never finished it like I never got like
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super far into it but like I yeah was
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there like there's a love triangle Vice
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in it there was a l yes there have I not
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read it to you I thought I read it to
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you I think i' I think you read like a
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little exert to me um it was yeah
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there's cuz she like her best friend
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ends up being her like her mate but then
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she falls in love with an angel but she
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like has love for her mate but her mate
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isn't wanting to come to the good side
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and there's like there's all this
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different yeah so
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I'm just a little weirdo
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good I'm just a little weirdo people
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would like to read
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it no so is that one finished or no no
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none of them are finished it's sad yeah
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and I don't think I could put myself
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back into my 17-year-old mine to finish
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it in the same way y'all are bringing up
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memories from a time
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that I've forgotten about have you seen
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like I don't know what the websites are
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called or if there is a specific website
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but I saw like a Britney brosi video
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where like she was reading
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fanfiction that people had like gone on
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the internet and like written about her
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have you ever seen have you ever found
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any of that like about yourself you
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haven't I wonder if there's any out
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there is there any Katy Vance like
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fanfiction no I don't know 100 there
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will be now 100% not there will be now
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there's a fan fiction about me and
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Jonathan but it was like it was like
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completely unserious like it was it was
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satire obviously obviously but I don't
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know I I just I'm interested if if there
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would be anything out there I doubt it
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about you I doubt it highly well would
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you read it if there
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was I'd give it a
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try give it a I'd give it a go I'd give
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it a go I don't know if I could stick
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with it we I
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mean my feet are getting a little warm
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mine aren't the he was right about the
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light moving up for sure have you ever
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written a book by the way I have
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not Nathan I know Nate has probably i'
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I've started books I've dabbled I've
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dabbled in books more of a movie guy
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yeah for his birthday he just made a
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short film that's just just pulled one
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out edited it shot it rote it I got some
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questions from people that were on the
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Jammy talk mhm I like the Jamie talk it
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was fun yeah I liked it too someone
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asked what do you mean when you say
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hunter under saddle I assume you mean
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English yeah it is English and it is a
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class that is based on the horse so
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horse's movement horse's ability
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to like okay so what they what you're
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going to do on this horse and the rider
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can look terrible it's not going to make
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the whole picture look great but it's
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not based on the rider um it's based on
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how the horse moves on The Obedience
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because the announcer is going to ask
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you to walk Trot and caner reverse
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backup all those things and you have to
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do it when the announcer says and then
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the judge gets that time to you know
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look at your horse analyze its movement
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place the horses that are in front of
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them and so it is the equivalent of
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Western Pleasure on the English Spectrum
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so it is usually what
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the like a lot of the hunters like that
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go into the working Hunter and the
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jumping stuff um might start off into
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the hunter under saddle or they might
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start because they have a working Hunter
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under saddle too which is more for like
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jumpers um but yeah it's a it's a class
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that is based on the horses movement so
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most horses like I said in that last
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video that go on to do the all around
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that go on to do the Western riding and
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horsemanship and equitation they start
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off and either Western Pleasure or
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Hunter under saddle um it's a good
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Basics class basically okay so when you
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were writing
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Denver had a lot of comments questions
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about how he
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was um moving I guess um a lot of
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comments about you know why is it so
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slow why do you want their head down
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more I guess if you want to talk about
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so so the thing about Western Pleasure
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it get it gets a lot of hate it just
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does that's an unfortunate unfortunate
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piece of it um in every discipline there
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are going to be trainers that do it
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incorrectly force a horse that is not
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talented in that event to do it which
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makes it look terrible um and then there
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there's just you know people being
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uneducated as far as what's going on
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right and so
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I never want when people now some people
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get hateful and I'll be like blocked um
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but I'll never I'll never shy away from
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people's educated or I'll never shy away
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from
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people's actual want to learn you know
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so with with Denver is he a finished
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show Horse no that's not how he's
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supposed to look in the class do I love
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how every Western Pleasure horse Lopes
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around at the highest level no I really
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don't but Western Pleasure whether
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people like it or not is a very good
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base for a horse it teaches them how to
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use every part of their body it is so
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taxing on them like like it is so they
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need to be so athletic to go slow and
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you wouldn't think that they need to
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have so many muscles need to be so fit
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to go that slow and not even just go
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slow slow is just the difficulty of it
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you want to go slow with a deep balanced
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Hawk balanced Topline
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the ones winning are not the ones with
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their heads dragging the ground whether
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you like it or not like if you actually
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look at them they have a level Top Line
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in a lot of the video of me on Denver
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his head is level it's not even like
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dragging the ground like people like to
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say you a lot of people just have a
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hatred for that Sport and they're going
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to hate it regardless so Western
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Pleasure as a whole was started to be a
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pleasure to ride to be slow and easy and
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comfortable and then just like any other
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discipline people started competing with
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it and then breeding for it and so the
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Western Pleasure horse um
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characteristically should be comfortable
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rocking back on its Hawk to have this
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super deep drive light front end um
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balanced Top Line and should be able to
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go around at a slow collected lope on a
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draped rain same for the jog um I do get
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angry at hor shows sometimes that the
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jog is not a jog they are like I showed
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you that at the Congress so many of the
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hes were like walking I'm like what the
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heck have a two beat kick them up one
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notch and it looks so good you know so
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Denver at this point in his training
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does not look like he should he is
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perfect for where he's at like we are
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wanting him to be a western riding horse
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a trail horse um but if you don't like
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the Western Pleasure Lo that's totally
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fine if you don't like it like there's
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there's other disciplines I don't like
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watching I'm not going to tell you you
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have to like this discipline
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but to call it a natural I
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mean is
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dras is Dr natural is making a horse fly
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around a barrel natural is making a
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horse jump four feet natural it like you
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know you can argue till you're blue in
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the face about any discipline so you
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know I would encourage people to have an
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open mind these horses are strong um
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they are really getting a good
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foundation for the rest of their career
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in other classes some what's crazy is
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I've had people get on my Western
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Pleasure show horses or whatever and
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they have been so against it until they
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get on that horse and they realize how
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trained they are and
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how how good they are moving every part
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of their body and how fit they are and
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so you know I I would just say I'm okay
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if you don't like it yet I don't
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encourage you to automatically write it
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off and say how horrible it is yeah um
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until you have experience with it
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because it can be really beautiful if
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you know what you're looking for and
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you're watching a horse that's bred for
25:43
it talented at it and someone writing
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them correctly I can't say that everyone
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does that correctly at every level you
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know I can't say if you go to a horse
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show on the weekend that all the
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Pleasure horses at that show are going
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to look great and be
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a good example you know but last comment
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not really question but um someone said
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the lack of helmets on everyone in that
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ring gives me anxiety they are all so
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pretty though you know helmets are a
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really good
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tool I wear a helmet when I'm riding in
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the English I'm going to wear a helmet
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if I'm jumping I'm going to wear a
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helmet um
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like I broke a 2-year-old out a couple
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years ago and never wore helmet but
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there are some 2-year-olds I would wear
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a helmet getting on like and that's the
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thing you got to think about is yes my
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kids are going to wear helmets when
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they're growing up my best friend's kids
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always wear a helmet like she's going to
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show Annie soon and she's going to wear
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a helmet in the western like that's
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totally fine and I think it should
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happen but as you become an adult you
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just kind of like there are things that
26:51
you kind of know are dangerous but yeah
26:54
you and people I think I saw a few
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comments on some of my my videos from
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like not my videos some of the videos of
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me riding bow and people were asking why
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I wasn't wearing one and I just kind of
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like I don't know cuz it's B like I feel
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like you trust him enough that you're
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teaching me on always happen yeah
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something could always happen but do you
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wear a helmet in your car do you you
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know I mean there's things that can
27:21
happen all the time and someone's gonna
27:23
get on to me about that explanation but
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I would say yes children should wear
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them beginners should wear them if they
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are on horses that are also beginners or
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if they feel comfortable wearing them
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I'm going to say if you're a full- grown
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adult you can make that decision yeah um
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at the horse shows we don't show with
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helmets on and so it just you know it's
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kind of turned into something that I I I
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would never judge someone for wearing a
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helmet yeah literally ever um you know
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it's just it's just something that I got
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out of the habit of and
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anything can happen I there's not really
28:01
a good answer for it other than I it's
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like me wearing flipflops to the barn do
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I know it's dumb
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probably yeah I'm just going to keep you
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just also trust your horses
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enough um and know them
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enough I just I feel like I know that
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there's a chance but I know that the
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chance is low you know what I'm saying
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like there would be what like you could
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say for a lot of things I think so yeah
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all right well that was different the
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books the book topic was a good idea
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even though there's going to be so many
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people being like what are what are
28:35
these
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books I think a lot of
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people will have read them yeah there's
28:44
a lot of people that have read the nasty
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book too but we're not telling them yeah
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you can guess um but anyway hope y'all
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enjoyed that let me know if you have any
28:54
more questions or topics or guests or
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whatever you would like to see in the
28:59
next one we love doing these catching up
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with CES weekly now it's been a really
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really fun thing to implement into our
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schedule and just sitting down and
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chatting so hope you enjoyed that
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