MWFP Rewind 76 - The Rock is on the mic? The Major GCW Takeover! Jeremy Padawer is here!

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<v Speaker 2>Hello and welcome to another edition of The Major Rewind.
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<v Speaker 2>have my nickname. But what is the Major Rewind, you
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<v Speaker 2>take some of the best classic, ultimate Major moments from
<v Speaker 2>the Major Pods, rich rich history, and I put it
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<v Speaker 2>this week we got a great episode. It's the anniversary.
<v Speaker 2>You know, my time in on this is usually very
<v Speaker 2>what's the word, Well, it's not a coincidence when I
<v Speaker 2>pick these clips. We have the boys talking about the
<v Speaker 2>night they took over the night the Major Pod took
<v Speaker 2>over the Hammerstein Ballroom at the first ever GCW show
<v Speaker 2>I believe it was GCW versus the World at the
<v Speaker 2>Hammerstein Ballroom. And then we have a clip from the Vault,
<v Speaker 2>if you will, our sister podcast. I guess in a
<v Speaker 2>sense it's Jeremy Piedouur, And of course, you know, with
<v Speaker 2>everything that's been going on, and you know, Jeremy's he's
<v Speaker 2>someone who for me and a lot of people, he's
<v Speaker 2>you know, he's like a hero of mine. Man, he's
<v Speaker 2>someone you look up to. He's a great dude. And
<v Speaker 2>you know, he did an interview with the Boys a
<v Speaker 2>few years ago and it's a great insight into the man,
<v Speaker 2>the myth, the legend, the mastermind behind you know, one
<v Speaker 2>of the greatest toy lines. And of course the way
<v Speaker 2>he changed not just the wrestling figure industry, but the
<v Speaker 2>wrestling industry as a whole, and how we look at
<v Speaker 2>nostalgia content and all that. You know, the drill. So
<v Speaker 2>sit back for and enjoy the show.
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<v Speaker 1>Mark aka the Aretha Franklin of FWF Live, aka the
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<v Speaker 3>Tuning in for it.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, uh man, I had this idea a couple of
<v Speaker 4>months ago. This this this major plan. I was treating
<v Speaker 4>this at like Game Changer Mania. I know it was
<v Speaker 4>called the World on GCW. I was treating it as
<v Speaker 4>Game Changer Mania. I knew I needed a little help
<v Speaker 4>for my blood, you know. The Major Pod crew and
<v Speaker 4>the plan it all. It did work, but the celebration
<v Speaker 4>got ruined. We were supposed to have a big PBR bash
<v Speaker 4>in the ring. Everyone was supposed to come out the
<v Speaker 4>big click hug in the middle.
<v Speaker 5>And the fans are happy to see me. They were
<v Speaker 5>throwing PBRs at me.
<v Speaker 4>Right But but but x poc Sean Wallman that pieces
<v Speaker 4>she had to come down, but no seriousness.
<v Speaker 5>What is all I saw? This is all I saw?
<v Speaker 5>It was.
<v Speaker 4>It was wild, wild night. I had this planned, every
<v Speaker 4>little detail, at least for my participation in the event
<v Speaker 4>for months.
<v Speaker 5>I think at least three months.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean the the the music downstate, thank you
<v Speaker 4>very much. You couldn't hear quite right with the shitty audio.
<v Speaker 4>I think you could hear it in the venue, but
<v Speaker 4>not on pay per view and Fight TV where it
<v Speaker 4>didn't come out to Enter Sandman. I came out to
<v Speaker 4>a Enter Sandman.
<v Speaker 5>The first riff is very innertanment.
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, then it gets into my song, right yeah,
<v Speaker 4>but so that songs that's on SoundCloud check that out.
<v Speaker 4>But the gear that Mikey whipbreak gear that I was
<v Speaker 4>originally supposed to wear at the twenty sixteen Royal Rumble,
<v Speaker 4>I'm not gonna.
<v Speaker 5>I think it's fourteen, but okay.
<v Speaker 4>I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna bore you guys. There
<v Speaker 4>was all the stories of the time I was supposed
<v Speaker 4>to wear it, but it all worked out that I
<v Speaker 4>woren't at Hammerstein Ballroom. The only other time I was
<v Speaker 4>at Harsign Ballroom is when Mikey Whipwreck brought me to
<v Speaker 4>One Night's Stand two thousand and five, so I was
<v Speaker 4>paying homage to mikey uh the uh if Cardona wins
<v Speaker 4>we Riot shirt and then of course there just happens
<v Speaker 4>to be that side, which made it so much fucking
<v Speaker 4>cooler to me, Like, I fucking love that. The the
<v Speaker 4>fucking McK foley.
<v Speaker 5>Oh man, I did Matt get that sign up there?
<v Speaker 5>I said, you had nothing to do with that.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And apparently the building kept telling them that they
<v Speaker 4>weren't allowed to have it up, and they kept like
<v Speaker 4>sneaking it really wow, Yeah, because they were the building
<v Speaker 4>told them that it was obstructing the view of the
<v Speaker 4>people below, and these guys were so smart and they
<v Speaker 4>like measured it exactly, so it did it black anyone's view,
<v Speaker 4>But the buildings give it a hard time. But hey,
<v Speaker 4>it was out there for my match. I have some
<v Speaker 4>great photos with it. My parents were there. It was
<v Speaker 4>just a while and the time you guys involved, I
<v Speaker 4>know my reaction to it, you know, I want to
<v Speaker 4>hear like your perspective for me, I was it felt
<v Speaker 4>like a WrestleMania day for me. I was nervous all
<v Speaker 4>fucking day, hectic, day. Wanted to make sure everything went
<v Speaker 4>by uh so smoothly and you know, as I imagined it,
<v Speaker 4>but it never goes exactly how you wanted to go.
<v Speaker 3>Well, I'll tell you this. One thing that I've noticed
<v Speaker 3>is that a lot of people's reaction to the show
<v Speaker 3>is that the the it's they said the sound the
<v Speaker 3>crowd sounded low, but like I can tell you being there,
<v Speaker 3>it was insane, right, Like, I just feel like the
<v Speaker 3>crowd always didn't transfer on the pay per view correctly.
<v Speaker 4>I think not only the crowd, but the the the
<v Speaker 4>entrance music too, But I think that they're they're they're
<v Speaker 4>missing something to pick up the real arena mute sound. Yes,
<v Speaker 4>you know what I'm saying.
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, there's some sort of audio issue that that did
<v Speaker 3>not transfer over to the pay per view people, because
<v Speaker 3>people are like, this crowd is dead, and I'm like,
<v Speaker 3>I was there, that building was I don't know what
<v Speaker 3>you're talking about. And when I came out to do
<v Speaker 3>my little talk, I couldn't hear myself talk and I
<v Speaker 3>don't know if that's ever happened to me. I'm yelling
<v Speaker 3>on the microphone and I'm like, can they hear me?
<v Speaker 5>I can't hear, and then he went to Virgil for advice. Right, yeah, so.
<v Speaker 3>Bro ban list Virgil. We had Virgil in our plan
<v Speaker 3>here forced on us.
<v Speaker 6>Do not ever come to a major pod show live
<v Speaker 6>and think you're gonna see Virgil's surprise, because.
<v Speaker 5>I promise you he will never happen.
<v Speaker 4>PBR was following us around all day. There's I Bede
<v Speaker 4>Jordan for BBR must have some crazy footage of Virgil
<v Speaker 4>just talking about Euph. I'm trying to like pump up
<v Speaker 4>for this match, and I'm clearly not interested. And I
<v Speaker 4>keep looking at George like, get this fucking guy away
<v Speaker 4>from me.
<v Speaker 7>Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>He wouldn't stop talking, and I was explaining to him
<v Speaker 3>the plan and I'm telling him he's come out, You're
<v Speaker 3>gonna be doing the Vincent man thing all day. He
<v Speaker 3>said he's going to do the Vince McMann walk. Then
<v Speaker 3>he comes out and he doesn't do the vincmc manwalk.
<v Speaker 4>I know, what the fuck? Yeah, So then he came
<v Speaker 4>out way too early before the.
<v Speaker 3>Early I said, don't come out until I get you.
<v Speaker 3>I turn around to go get him. He's already halfway out,
<v Speaker 3>and then he says he can't take the mask off.
<v Speaker 3>So I have to take the mask off. I also
<v Speaker 3>tell him in the back, I say, hey, I'm going
<v Speaker 3>to hand you a one dollar bill so I pay
<v Speaker 3>you off. He says, you got to It's got to
<v Speaker 3>be one hundred because they're going to zoom in on
<v Speaker 3>it and they're gonna see And he said, he said,
<v Speaker 3>I'll give it back to you in the back, but
<v Speaker 3>it's got to be a hundred. You got to give
<v Speaker 3>me a hundred. Then he wouldn't stop talking about me
<v Speaker 3>giving him one hundred dollars bill, and I'm like, this
<v Speaker 3>is a Virgil being Virgil.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, there's absolutely no way, man.
<v Speaker 4>I just want to thank Adam Gibbons from our Facebook
<v Speaker 4>Patriot group. I was looking for this vinsic man mask
<v Speaker 4>with a plan and he had it and he said
<v Speaker 4>it to me. Uh And then I think Virgil stole
<v Speaker 4>the mask. Yeah, because I wanted to sell it. I
<v Speaker 4>spent a hundred bucks on that mask.
<v Speaker 6>No one ever founded them, no, no, god he uh man,
<v Speaker 6>he just sucks. I think the real problem is is
<v Speaker 6>those dudes run his social media and it's all like
<v Speaker 6>entertaining and stuff. But the real Virgil is not like that,
<v Speaker 6>like whatsoever, you know. So there's a big disconnection. Yeah,
<v Speaker 6>I mean, oh god, that's not enough. Barring Virgil Saggle.
<v Speaker 6>We can do the whole pot of Virgil.
<v Speaker 3>The crowd was awesome, Swaggle was there, the Figure four
<v Speaker 3>was there in full effect. Chelsea was awesome.
<v Speaker 6>We took the coolest Chelsea. What a pro Chelsea is, man?
<v Speaker 6>She she uh, she's right in the thick of it
<v Speaker 6>doing some crazy ship.
<v Speaker 5>Man.
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if you heard this, Broski, but I
<v Speaker 3>so we'll talk about this on the YouTube thing. But
<v Speaker 3>last Friday I put up a vlog from GCW whatever
<v Speaker 3>you last week's GCW trip, And so I'm editing this
<v Speaker 3>thing and there's that long promo that Chelsea does in
<v Speaker 3>the middle of the ring, and I told her to
<v Speaker 3>her face, I said, that was a really great promo
<v Speaker 3>and there's not a lot of people that can just
<v Speaker 3>stand there so calmly and cut this nasty promo on
<v Speaker 3>these people, like she did such a great job. So
<v Speaker 3>really kind of blown away with Chelsea and professional wrestling
<v Speaker 3>pretty wild.
<v Speaker 6>Even before I met Chelsea, I remember watching her hot
<v Speaker 6>mess character on Impacted being impressed with how like committed
<v Speaker 6>she was to the character before you even met her.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I met Chelsea where the zach Ryder e CW
<v Speaker 4>one legged tights. Yeah, she wasn't really necessarily a fan
<v Speaker 4>of that, but that was not fun to wear.
<v Speaker 5>She said. Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>Uh, anyways, dream come true. I mean bucket list thing
<v Speaker 3>for me to work at the Hammerstein Ballroom. So can
<v Speaker 3>I come and make sure that your lawyer, uh you know,
<v Speaker 3>make sure that there was no shenanigans and help you
<v Speaker 3>out in case you need it. Of course I will,
<v Speaker 3>of course I will it. I was excited to do it.
<v Speaker 4>It was basically like an f w F match, Yes,
<v Speaker 4>with all the run ins, a lot of the comments,
<v Speaker 4>all the all the gaga. But that's my.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, but it wasn't just they should have had a
<v Speaker 5>boat or something.
<v Speaker 4>But like, yes, there was a lot of shenani games,
<v Speaker 4>run ins, gaga, but there was also a lot of
<v Speaker 4>violence too. I'm like busted open from my nose the
<v Speaker 4>back of my head.
<v Speaker 5>Hard chairs, hardware, hunting back.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, like DVD's on ring aprins, Joey Janella does his
<v Speaker 4>elbow drop off the top of the watch of my
<v Speaker 4>face on the outside through a door, like steel chairs.
<v Speaker 4>I'm protected to the back of my head like low
<v Speaker 4>blow it was fucking wild. Yeah, it was wild.
<v Speaker 6>Can I even Destroyers Marco Stunt gets involved? Sam Stackhouse
<v Speaker 6>And now I'm thinking about it. Maybe it's something that
<v Speaker 6>obviously GCW that probably doesn't have the production or whatever
<v Speaker 6>to be prepared for. But that building is so amazing
<v Speaker 6>and unique because it's like a cylinder and everyone's on
<v Speaker 6>top of you. And maybe that's why the sound isn't
<v Speaker 6>uh you know, coming through like on your TV screen
<v Speaker 6>like the way it is in real life, because it's
<v Speaker 6>not that's when you're there.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, Oh my god, I was out there.
<v Speaker 3>It felt so crazy to me.
<v Speaker 6>I went to uh, you know, all those original ECW
<v Speaker 6>shows there, and then I went right up to where
<v Speaker 6>I remember I watched NASCAR in thirty fourth straight.
<v Speaker 5>Like, I went up there and was hanging out in
<v Speaker 5>the and I wish.
<v Speaker 6>I also think might be where the heels are during
<v Speaker 6>One Night's Stand and JBL is doing the bounce to
<v Speaker 6>check stuff.
<v Speaker 4>I think I think it's also where like the Sino
<v Speaker 4>wins we Riot sign is.
<v Speaker 5>No, that's like was closer to like where yours was?
<v Speaker 4>Oh was it?
<v Speaker 5>I'm pretty sure? Hmm? But man, unbelievable.
<v Speaker 6>Just there's no other building in this world that I
<v Speaker 6>cared to be in than that building, Like, you know,
<v Speaker 6>I mean, I'm sure there's wonderful prog wrestling venues I've
<v Speaker 6>never been to, but there's not one that I care
<v Speaker 6>like I cared to be a part of that choice there.
<v Speaker 6>So yeah, way, I can't thank you guys enough. And
<v Speaker 6>then I mean that reaction, you know that the Edge
<v Speaker 6>tribute and the reaction is something I'll be thinking about
<v Speaker 6>the rest of my life, I'm pretty sure.
<v Speaker 3>So did you send it to your good friend out?
<v Speaker 5>How about this phone? Twitter?
<v Speaker 6>Everything is just Broski's concocted this, And I don't know
<v Speaker 6>how long you and Dylan have known or everyone else involved,
<v Speaker 6>but like I've known about this for I want to
<v Speaker 6>stay close to three months and I literally have only
<v Speaker 6>told my wife and I was just sitting on it,
<v Speaker 6>and uh, you know, so, I mean I and I
<v Speaker 6>can't favor a lot of my close friends about this,
<v Speaker 6>you know. And then last night, you know, phone's been
<v Speaker 6>going nuts the whole you know, after the whole thing
<v Speaker 6>Twitter or whatever, everything's else, I finally put it down.
<v Speaker 6>I see it like link one last time, and I
<v Speaker 6>fucking check it and goes just landed. I saw and
<v Speaker 6>it was like, awesome whatever it was from from from
<v Speaker 6>uncle Adam, So.
<v Speaker 4>That's good text me.
<v Speaker 3>I mean you you did the tribute to Mikey and
<v Speaker 3>he had a nice tweet about that.
<v Speaker 8>I saw today.
<v Speaker 5>That's awesome.
<v Speaker 4>Uh since you since you called out a famous wrestler friend,
<v Speaker 4>I'll call a famous wrestler friend. So I, uh, my
<v Speaker 4>good friend John Cena. I texted him the gift of
<v Speaker 4>me doing the f U you know, and he said, well,
<v Speaker 4>just like mine, it only worked for two.
<v Speaker 8>Table chair.
<v Speaker 4>But I was wondering, how did you like know when
<v Speaker 4>to come out because there's.
<v Speaker 6>No that's also faint picture here. There's no monitor period,
<v Speaker 6>so there's no way to watch the show.
<v Speaker 4>There's no like, there's no runner telling you when to go, right.
<v Speaker 3>I found myself a runner, so I had to I
<v Speaker 3>was the first person to come out. So I found
<v Speaker 3>a runner and I positioned him like a mirror. I
<v Speaker 3>was behind a wall and he was on the stage
<v Speaker 3>watching and I told him when I needed to come out.
<v Speaker 6>So I'm listening to all the bumps and the reactions,
<v Speaker 6>which is also another It was crazy, like because I'm
<v Speaker 6>I didn't even come from the Aisle. I came from
<v Speaker 6>like behind this like side curtain thing, so I knew
<v Speaker 6>that the double doors. So the boom boom of the
<v Speaker 6>doors with the swaggling Marco bump and then Joey's smashing
<v Speaker 6>your face, I knew that was like where I needed
<v Speaker 6>to like be ready, ready, because like it was getting
<v Speaker 6>closer to when I was going. And then I started
<v Speaker 6>to getting nervous and I saw I believe his name
<v Speaker 6>was KATB, and know I did it indie with him.
<v Speaker 6>I think like the first time I was far and
<v Speaker 6>I kind of like knew him. I was like, bro,
<v Speaker 6>I need you to be my eyes. I was like,
<v Speaker 6>when Chelsea's wearing Joey out with a kind of stick,
<v Speaker 6>you got tell me whatever.
<v Speaker 5>And he actually helped out a lot.
<v Speaker 6>So shout out to him because I convinced call the
<v Speaker 6>beast KATB. And then at the very last second, I
<v Speaker 6>asked Mark, make sure my fucking ponytail's in the helmet
<v Speaker 6>because I was very nervous about that too, because if
<v Speaker 6>the hair is out of the helmet, that's not much surprise,
<v Speaker 6>you know, So I had to make sure that, you know,
<v Speaker 6>it was all tucked up. So and my only other
<v Speaker 6>concern besides that was shockmastering myself on the bumpy, So
<v Speaker 6>I I gave a joey like I call it a
<v Speaker 6>shoot MJF fucking spear and just drove my head into
<v Speaker 6>his chest because I didn't want it to like go
<v Speaker 6>like impact and the projectile off. I know it was
<v Speaker 6>up against his body, it would stay, so it's say yeah,
<v Speaker 6>So that was my only concern. So once once I
<v Speaker 6>got through that, I don't know, We're fine, you.
<v Speaker 4>Know, yeah, holy ship.
<v Speaker 6>And then like and also the like during the day,
<v Speaker 6>I see like, okay, I can take this lane to
<v Speaker 6>get there.
<v Speaker 5>That lane is people standing drinking beers.
<v Speaker 4>That lane is gone, long time gone, gone gone.
<v Speaker 6>So I'm shoot just slamming into the dude like clear security.
<v Speaker 4>That's another.
<v Speaker 5>I was like a shoot security trying to hit me
<v Speaker 5>ship too. I was thinking like here.
<v Speaker 4>I don't know, they know you're coming out.
<v Speaker 5>That's what I'm saying.
<v Speaker 6>All the last second and the matches going on, there's
<v Speaker 6>nothing I can do. All these things are racing through
<v Speaker 6>my head and ship. So I had to like shoot
<v Speaker 6>like bulldoze fans and shipped to get to the ring.
<v Speaker 4>And one of them, the dude wwe this would be
<v Speaker 4>all like set up. There would be someone telling you
<v Speaker 4>when to go lane producer, Yeah, nobody ship. We just did.
<v Speaker 6>The dude Evan from the Dark sid of the Ring
<v Speaker 6>DM me last night. He goes, Bro, you fucking ailed
<v Speaker 6>into me running through Like I was like, Bro, I'm
<v Speaker 6>like literally just wearing a legit right, trying to get
<v Speaker 6>through these people.
<v Speaker 4>What about on my entrance, I'm so fucking fired up,
<v Speaker 4>Like I'm on the top rope spitting that PBR. I
<v Speaker 4>throw the can down. It's probably a quarter left in
<v Speaker 4>it as hard as I get to the floor and
<v Speaker 4>nails drove a PBR right in the dick as he's
<v Speaker 4>filled with me, Like, right in the dick.
<v Speaker 6>Can we tell that about the decisions to not bash
<v Speaker 6>the can on your head or not?
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, I couldn't do it. I was practicing like earlier,
<v Speaker 4>but like against like the wall, Like if it's not
<v Speaker 4>breaking against the wall, it's not gonna break up my
<v Speaker 4>fucking hand.
<v Speaker 6>Original idea was Bro's gonna smash a beer and then
<v Speaker 6>smash it over his head. And I'm like, well, one,
<v Speaker 6>you could hard wear yourself pretty fucking bad before the
<v Speaker 6>match even starts.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and then with the blood. That's another thing too,
<v Speaker 4>New York.
<v Speaker 6>The Athletic Commission stop it, like you're not gonna let
<v Speaker 6>you do twenty minutes of blood with blood. Maybe I'm hard.
<v Speaker 4>Weighted, like the blood is oozing out of my fucking knows.
<v Speaker 4>Like if they stopped this fucking match, that's all I'm
<v Speaker 4>thinking about. They're gonna stop this match, Like god, they
<v Speaker 4>did not.
<v Speaker 6>Chelsea's the thing when I got in, I had no
<v Speaker 6>idea you were bleeding, and then I show should I look?
<v Speaker 6>And then you're just everyone jesus, I know clue until
<v Speaker 6>right then, you know.
<v Speaker 4>Soogo said, like right before I get like the DVD
<v Speaker 4>on the apron, he just sees like the blood trickling
<v Speaker 4>on the floor. It's like, what the fuck is going on?
<v Speaker 4>Because he's under the rig. It just would not stop coming.
<v Speaker 4>I think my nose is fine, but holy shit, uh,
<v Speaker 4>Chelsea said, like the I guess the commission was like
<v Speaker 4>taking notes the whole match, like walking around the ring
<v Speaker 4>like like I guess, trying to see if it was
<v Speaker 4>like if I gigged or something. Trust me, I did not.
<v Speaker 6>I mean New York is so stupid with all the
<v Speaker 6>rules and stuff. The worst, Yeah, they have us lumped
<v Speaker 6>in with MMA, like, no one's trying to hurt people here,
<v Speaker 6>Like it doesn't work like that.
<v Speaker 3>What we really need we need a documentary And I've
<v Speaker 3>taught about this for years, a documentary or a dark
<v Speaker 3>Sight of the Ring or some sort of cover uncover
<v Speaker 3>special about athletic commissions and professional wrestling, because the biggest scam.
<v Speaker 5>It's a scam man going, yeah.
<v Speaker 3>Why are you taking athletic commission money from professional It's
<v Speaker 3>so ridiculous.
<v Speaker 6>You need an ambulance, you need a doctor, you have
<v Speaker 6>to pay for the license, which is two grand a year.
<v Speaker 6>You've renew every time. It's just a complete money grab scam.
<v Speaker 6>Every time the ambulance shows up to create.
<v Speaker 5>Byther, they're like, oh word, They're like this is pro wrestling.
<v Speaker 5>Oh my god. People are gonna get all fucked up.
<v Speaker 6>And I'm like, this is basically a high school plager.
<v Speaker 6>Just sit down and watch show, enjoy yourself, have a
<v Speaker 6>fucking hot dog like this eas It's not your life,
<v Speaker 6>you know, it's ridiculous.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well so last night, you know, I promised my
<v Speaker 4>mom because she you know, like a lot of people,
<v Speaker 4>they think of GCW, they think of that death match
<v Speaker 4>I had they think the blood, the guts, the barbed wire,
<v Speaker 4>the light, tubes of glass, and I'm like, mom, I
<v Speaker 4>promise it's not gonna be blood, and of course cover
<v Speaker 4>it blood, cover so that she's like back she comes
<v Speaker 4>backstage and like the doctors are checking on me, and
<v Speaker 4>I'm telling him, like I don't want to go to
<v Speaker 4>the hospital for his fucking nose. Like if it's broken,
<v Speaker 4>it's broken. What am we gonna do? What are we
<v Speaker 4>gonna do in the e R? Like why am I
<v Speaker 4>gonna go? Like what do they do? I don't like whatever?
<v Speaker 4>So like my mom was like all upset. I'm like, listen,
<v Speaker 4>it's fine, it is.
<v Speaker 5>What it is.
<v Speaker 4>But not I had to convince to come to the
<v Speaker 4>show because I knew it was gonna be a special night.
<v Speaker 4>And I'm like, I probably occupated blood and of course
<v Speaker 4>I'm bleeding for the front at the back. But I
<v Speaker 4>loved the fans throwing the trash at us. Then fucking
<v Speaker 4>Xbox coming out. I was not expecting that fucking aggression
<v Speaker 4>rap album track to hit.
<v Speaker 6>I don't know how it came up a conversation I
<v Speaker 6>knew before it went out. That's what his that's his
<v Speaker 6>personal favorite.
<v Speaker 5>He doesn't look great.
<v Speaker 4>I love it.
<v Speaker 6>He doesn't like Xbox, so I was like, okay, obviously
<v Speaker 6>that's that's his choice, you know.
<v Speaker 4>I mean, how many fucking run ends were there there?
<v Speaker 4>I mean, really, if you want to that one guy's name.
<v Speaker 4>In fact, I don't even know who that is. Stock House, Chelsea,
<v Speaker 4>uh Swaggle, Marco Stutt, Smart, Mark, Virgil bridebars, x Pox.
<v Speaker 5>That's eight.
<v Speaker 3>And no lights were out. How did we do it?
<v Speaker 4>Yeah?
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, man, no lights, no, no runners, no like producers.
<v Speaker 3>A lot of people asking if my neck brace was
<v Speaker 3>to honor Joel Gertner.
<v Speaker 8>It was not.
<v Speaker 5>I was.
<v Speaker 4>I saw that.
<v Speaker 3>Actually I was brain busted on the floor.
<v Speaker 5>I want to say, wow.
<v Speaker 6>Broski with the Mikey whip Wreck tribute, Brian with the
<v Speaker 6>Edge tribute, Mark with the Joel.
<v Speaker 8>Look.
<v Speaker 3>I love Joe Girdner. He's one of my favorite things
<v Speaker 3>about E c W back in the day. Well, well, well.
<v Speaker 4>I think, uh, you know, I'm proud of all of us.
<v Speaker 4>A great night. I'm glad we had the picture before
<v Speaker 4>and after.
<v Speaker 5>It was who was it was a man?
<v Speaker 4>Cool shots? Yeah, I thought it was really really cool,
<v Speaker 4>and I'm interested to see what happens next with GCW,
<v Speaker 4>because now you know they have all the momentum. All
<v Speaker 4>eyes are on GCW. Now what I mean?
<v Speaker 5>I guess it's interesting man. It's it's organized chaos man.
<v Speaker 4>And it's just so wild that like, man, like my
<v Speaker 4>I couldn't even get through my social media feet like
<v Speaker 4>that's how I may be the same. That's how many
<v Speaker 4>posts and like even today there's even like more professional
<v Speaker 4>photos coming out and like I'm like, what the coverage is.
<v Speaker 4>It's like you cannot buy this publicity in this bus.
<v Speaker 4>It's nuts. Yeah, And it was just our match that
<v Speaker 4>we were just one match out of the whole tire show,
<v Speaker 4>the crazy pre show. Uh Moxley returned, fucking Nick Gage returned,
<v Speaker 4>Fie and Double J.
<v Speaker 5>It's kind of I was bummed, no monitor, but I
<v Speaker 5>was also.
<v Speaker 6>Unbelievably shocked, like, you know whatever, it's been twenty something
<v Speaker 6>years I've been dream about wrestling at this place, so
<v Speaker 6>I you know you and what the backstage was. Never
<v Speaker 6>in my wildness could I have a vision what it
<v Speaker 6>was because I was not expecting at all. I was
<v Speaker 6>expecting like one shitty like room like with nothing like
<v Speaker 6>what it.
<v Speaker 4>Was a bunch of small locker rooms, and we just
<v Speaker 4>to get one with a bathroom that nobody else wanted
<v Speaker 4>to go in. And then Blake Christian he left. He said,
<v Speaker 4>oh this is the verified locker room. That's right, But
<v Speaker 4>uh what and I what a crazy experience? And I
<v Speaker 4>with the best part is, like I said, there's still photos,
<v Speaker 4>professional photos coming out. Probably as we record this we'll
<v Speaker 4>get even more cool shots and stuff. So uh and
<v Speaker 4>Josh Sharnall, fuck you, Josh, So I gotta say from
<v Speaker 4>fight now, I'm kidding.
<v Speaker 6>Next time you interview us as a group, you better
<v Speaker 6>have a stool for Swaggle Man.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you couldn't even see him.
<v Speaker 5>That was rude.
<v Speaker 7>Man, Brosk is.
<v Speaker 3>Like cutting this promo. We're all behind him and then
<v Speaker 3>you just hear somebody talking and then just swaggled underneath.
<v Speaker 6>Please, if you watch that fight provo, know that that
<v Speaker 6>we were like on a ramp almost. I feel like
<v Speaker 6>Dylan got so far up he took a step and
<v Speaker 6>he does like this like compicol like teeth. That's just
<v Speaker 6>I don't know why I'm watching a bunch I'm watched
<v Speaker 6>a bunch of times that it's killed me.
<v Speaker 4>Unbelievable.
<v Speaker 7>All Right, I got my fig FED going on.
<v Speaker 4>Sure you do. But speaking of fig FED, we got
<v Speaker 4>a very special interview today. Uh introduce yourself.
<v Speaker 5>So the guy that was the mastermind behind our fig feds.
<v Speaker 5>That's true growing.
<v Speaker 7>Up, the man who's I want too lick hor.
<v Speaker 5>I'm glad there's some distance here. I'm in between the
<v Speaker 5>two guys. And keep this, keep it casual here, you know,
<v Speaker 5>keep it professional.
<v Speaker 8>Jeremy pitt Ower aka middle aged Broski, Thank you, thank you.
<v Speaker 5>Uh wrestling figure legend in our books. The Godfather's honored
<v Speaker 5>to be here in your beautiful little starter home here.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, could this place be any more like beautiful? I
<v Speaker 4>almost wanted to jump off your your bedroom balcony headfirst
<v Speaker 4>into the pool and miss on purpose.
<v Speaker 6>We went to the Conradison Conrad Thompson's home last year.
<v Speaker 6>It was very impressive, but I did not think we'd
<v Speaker 6>be in another home as impressive as his home was.
<v Speaker 5>So quickly, But here we are.
<v Speaker 8>We are, We're here, right, baby, overnight success? What can
<v Speaker 8>I say?
<v Speaker 5>Yeah? All right, I got it. Let's let's take it
<v Speaker 5>all the way back growing up. Yeah, pro wrestling for you?
<v Speaker 5>What what was that to you? A fan? Oh? Yeah,
<v Speaker 5>what was your interest.
<v Speaker 8>Oh it was a big deal. So I grew up
<v Speaker 8>all over the South.
<v Speaker 5>I was.
<v Speaker 8>I moved eight times by the time I was thirteen. Columbus, Mississippi, Memphis, Tennessee, Greensboro,
<v Speaker 8>North Carolina, Atlanta, Georgia.
<v Speaker 5>I always could tell.
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, right, yeah, you can tell right now, it's not
<v Speaker 8>even like that, Yeah, exactly. No, we moved all over
<v Speaker 8>the place. And why did you do that? My dad
<v Speaker 8>was like he really was trying to climb the corporate ladder,
<v Speaker 8>and he would be the guy that would be willing
<v Speaker 8>to take a transfer to you know, make a few bucks.
<v Speaker 8>And for speaking, it was so normal to me. It
<v Speaker 8>just seemed like that was that was okay, just middle
<v Speaker 8>class trying to make a living, do what you can.
<v Speaker 8>And and you know, luckily I was, you know, I
<v Speaker 8>had a lot of interests and and wrestling was a
<v Speaker 8>big one. So and being growing up in the South,
<v Speaker 8>like in the eighties, like I'm forty six, so seventy
<v Speaker 8>three I was born. So by the time, you know,
<v Speaker 8>eighty eighty one, eighty two, eighty three, it was awesome.
<v Speaker 8>Wrestling was fantastic and so us w a h. There
<v Speaker 8>was wrestling associans out of Memphis, there were there was
<v Speaker 8>Texas Wrestling with a w a like we would get
<v Speaker 8>all of that stuff and my dad would take me
<v Speaker 8>to wrestling matches Columbus, Mississippi. Literally go into the sit
<v Speaker 8>in the auditorium. I'd be dressed up like a kid.
<v Speaker 8>He'd be wearing a suit from work. Yeah, and there
<v Speaker 8>and and the most belligerent, foul mouth, loudest, most horrifying
<v Speaker 8>human beings are women over the age of ninety five.
<v Speaker 8>These events, So yes, well listen, it was it was.
<v Speaker 8>You know, it's still real to me. Damn it, you
<v Speaker 8>know it it it It was real and I and
<v Speaker 8>you know, to me, like these guys regionally were creating
<v Speaker 8>their characters and growing up and and and they there,
<v Speaker 8>they became their persona over the course of time. They
<v Speaker 8>believed who they were so intimately nothing was everything was organic,
<v Speaker 8>nothing was processed. It was unbelievable. And so as a kid,
<v Speaker 8>it's easy to believe in something that seems so real
<v Speaker 8>because it is so real. And you know, so I
<v Speaker 8>liked it a lot. As a matter of fact, my
<v Speaker 8>older brother Randy even created like a very simple basic
<v Speaker 8>game for me on the computer, Like you remember the
<v Speaker 8>old Doss a MS dos. What was the the programming
<v Speaker 8>language Basic? You guys remember basicly This may be before
<v Speaker 8>your time, but back in the day, it was like
<v Speaker 8>like you could create basic programming. And he created a
<v Speaker 8>wrestling game for me to play because there was no
<v Speaker 8>real wrestling game at the time, and it was that's
<v Speaker 8>I loved it. I really loved it, and it shaped
<v Speaker 8>my life.
<v Speaker 5>And lot, No, you said that you're the same age
<v Speaker 5>as Edge, So I know he was an l j
<v Speaker 5>N kid, did you, Yeah, those going on?
<v Speaker 8>Oh, definitely, I was an LJN kid. Yeah, nineteen eighty three,
<v Speaker 8>I believe eighty four.
<v Speaker 5>When late late late eighty four.
<v Speaker 8>Eighty four, okay, so eighty four through like eighty nine, yeah, yes,
<v Speaker 8>And I so my mom would take me to Walmart
<v Speaker 8>and uh, we'd grab you know, all of them Mintal
<v Speaker 8>Minty fresh on shelf and and I had, you know,
<v Speaker 8>I had the ring and I had pretty much all
<v Speaker 8>of them, and so it was it was Oh, but
<v Speaker 8>before that, I'm sorry to even go into this. So
<v Speaker 8>before the lgns came out, I would use my g
<v Speaker 8>I Joe figures as wrestlers. So I would assign a
<v Speaker 8>wrestling name to each one of my g O Joe
<v Speaker 8>figures that I would remember and I would keep winning
<v Speaker 8>loss right, So it was yah, it was so much
<v Speaker 8>fun with the imagination.
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, what other toys did you play with growing up?
<v Speaker 8>Hot wheels? I don't know, you know, I'd say wrestling
<v Speaker 8>figs and fake wrestling figs.
<v Speaker 5>And hot wheels, a lot with stuff.
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, were you ever a Hot Wheels kid?
<v Speaker 5>Not really? I never was only like cars as an adult,
<v Speaker 5>So I didn't I feel like that.
<v Speaker 4>The wrestling cards or cars, you know, like the w
<v Speaker 4>CW cars. I mean really, so what what made you
<v Speaker 4>tell us your backstory if everyone doesn't know, like what
<v Speaker 4>got you into the toy industry?
<v Speaker 6>So?
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, so I let's see.
<v Speaker 5>So I was.
<v Speaker 8>In in undergrad. I was didn't really know what I
<v Speaker 8>wanted to do with my life. I think, as most
<v Speaker 8>people don't, you know, you kind of have a sense.
<v Speaker 8>I knew that I was a kid, I used to
<v Speaker 8>collect sports memorabilia and autographs and you know a lot
<v Speaker 8>of things, and I thought that would be fun to
<v Speaker 8>somehow turn that into a career. But there was no
<v Speaker 8>clear career path that way. So I started lost. And
<v Speaker 8>when I started law school, I was going to take
<v Speaker 8>huge loans. I was gonna have like seventy five thousand
<v Speaker 8>dollars in loans coming out. And one day I'm watching
<v Speaker 8>a TV show and there's this lady on the show
<v Speaker 8>basically talking about I'm making money, you know, creating websites
<v Speaker 8>and selling advertising. I was like, that sounds easy, right,
<v Speaker 8>anybody can do She's doing.
<v Speaker 4>It mar type thing.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.
<v Speaker 8>No, it wasn't even info Marshall. It was random. I
<v Speaker 8>don't even remember. Like it was like news. I'm watching
<v Speaker 8>the newscast at Knoxville, Tennessee ninety five right, and I'm like, okay,
<v Speaker 8>you know what, I'll do it. And so I hated
<v Speaker 8>law school. First class I took in law school, I
<v Speaker 8>was like this horrible. I was like, this is gonna suck.
<v Speaker 8>I was like, I'm going to suck it that I
<v Speaker 8>was right, by the way, I'm bottom third of my class.
<v Speaker 8>It was great. But I got into Vanderbilt for business
<v Speaker 8>school because of my entrepreneurialism. And I'll tell you about
<v Speaker 8>that in a second. So I'm sitting there watching this lady.
<v Speaker 8>I'm like, So the next day I started teaching myself
<v Speaker 8>how to code, like really basic source code, create a website,
<v Speaker 8>and I created a series of websites specifically around collectibles,
<v Speaker 8>so Beanie Babies, and another one was tie Beanie Babies
<v Speaker 8>and Ferbie and various things, and I named it with
<v Speaker 8>two a's, Absolute beanie Babies, Absolute Ferby, Absolute this, and
<v Speaker 8>absolute that, and I listed them on Yahoo. And Yahoo
<v Speaker 8>was only in its second year as a search engine,
<v Speaker 8>and Yahoo, if you could follow, this was nothing more
<v Speaker 8>than a phone book. So when you flip through a
<v Speaker 8>phone book, what do you see? First? Two a's. So
<v Speaker 8>every single website that I put up, I would end
<v Speaker 8>that with two a's.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, And my website sucked. They were bad. But after
<v Speaker 8>about after about i don't know, six months of getting
<v Speaker 8>these things listed with two a's, I had like twenty
<v Speaker 8>thousand people a day coming through looking for collectible information.
<v Speaker 8>I was like, now I got something. And so I
<v Speaker 8>ended up turning the websites into something a little bit
<v Speaker 8>more legitimate, with like I would take price guides and
<v Speaker 8>like take the four leading price guides and do like
<v Speaker 8>an index of what things should be worth and showing
<v Speaker 8>month to month whether things have gone up or down.
<v Speaker 8>And as simple as that sounds, it actually got a
<v Speaker 8>lot of viewership, and it got Newsweek, and like all
<v Speaker 8>these other things became like it became a bit known,
<v Speaker 8>and Disney advertised and on sale dot com, which was
<v Speaker 8>like an eBay precursor, And so now I had a
<v Speaker 8>little bit of money, and I was like, you know what,
<v Speaker 8>I'm going to get more eyeballs by buying domain names.
<v Speaker 8>So I bought like act dot com, and I bought
<v Speaker 8>like uninsured dot com, all these great domain names that
<v Speaker 8>I bought up, and with a pure idea that I
<v Speaker 8>was going to take these eyeballs and add them to
<v Speaker 8>the list of people who were naturally coming in to
<v Speaker 8>these websites through search, and long story short ended up
<v Speaker 8>being great. I ended up selling a lot of those
<v Speaker 8>names and got me into business school. So honestly, no
<v Speaker 8>one cared that I was can I can? I sorry? Okay,
<v Speaker 8>good god, good, No one. No one cared. No one cares.
<v Speaker 5>We want the natural conversation.
<v Speaker 8>I know, no, no worries. Yeah exactly, you can't say no.
<v Speaker 8>I don't think I should no. So, uh so what happened?
<v Speaker 8>So so essentially they didn't care that I was a
<v Speaker 8>bad law student. I finished. You know, I think what
<v Speaker 8>they cared was I was kind of at the forefront
<v Speaker 8>of something else, earning more money than the professors, and
<v Speaker 8>showing a real inclination for business. And so I ended
<v Speaker 8>up going to Vanderbilt, got a scholarship to go to
<v Speaker 8>Vanderbilt for business school, right on the tail end of
<v Speaker 8>being finishing up law school. And so while all my
<v Speaker 8>other colleagues were going to be lawyers, I want to
<v Speaker 8>be a day one business school student, but with a
<v Speaker 8>but with a company. And uh. And so I knew
<v Speaker 8>I was an entrepreneur, and I knew that that that,
<v Speaker 8>you know, what was best for me was not necessarily
<v Speaker 8>following some template. But I also knew that, you know,
<v Speaker 8>going to school was a hedge. I was able to
<v Speaker 8>hedge my bets and and doing the academic thing allowed
<v Speaker 8>me to kind of say, like, you know, maybe there's
<v Speaker 8>something to this as well. So I kind of had
<v Speaker 8>kept one foot in both waters. And then Mattel, my
<v Speaker 8>second year of business school, there's only two years in
<v Speaker 8>business school, came and interviewed at Vanderbilt. Jeff Walker, who
<v Speaker 8>was later became like the president of Mattel Brands, came
<v Speaker 8>in and I interviewed with a bunch of other guys
<v Speaker 8>and men and women. I should say and I didn't
<v Speaker 8>get it. So mattel some irrejection letter, so I, yeah, yeah,
<v Speaker 8>they sent me a rejected so I took that letter
<v Speaker 8>and I ripped it up.
<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah yeah.
<v Speaker 8>And I and I called the head of HR or
<v Speaker 8>the head of HR that who I thought, it's probably
<v Speaker 8>some director of HR. And I said, hey, as like,
<v Speaker 8>I never never heard from you guys moving to LA.
<v Speaker 8>My wife's a medical doctor and she's going out there
<v Speaker 8>for her residency, and you know, I didn't hear from you,
<v Speaker 8>So I'd like to to talk personally. Maybe maybe there's something.
<v Speaker 8>Maybe I'd love to come in. And she's like super
<v Speaker 8>perplexed because they knew that they dinged me. And they
<v Speaker 8>were like, dude, not only did they ding me, they
<v Speaker 8>were probably ding me with prejudice. They're like, there's no
<v Speaker 8>way we were going to see that guy again. So anyway,
<v Speaker 8>so I went up, uh called every two weeks and
<v Speaker 8>finally said come on in and uh after you know,
<v Speaker 8>I didn't get it the first interview, the second interview
<v Speaker 8>I did. Yeah, the guy that interviewed me the second time,
<v Speaker 8>he looks at me and he goes, you know what, you
<v Speaker 8>don't have any toy experience but this isn't rocket scientry.
<v Speaker 8>And I was like, I was like, rocket scientry isn't
<v Speaker 8>a word. I was like, this is gonna be easy.
<v Speaker 5>But I did.
<v Speaker 8>But I did have the Internet, that's right. I was like, Phil, no,
<v Speaker 8>but I had a But you know what though, it
<v Speaker 8>just the thing is you you make your own destiny
<v Speaker 8>to some extent, like you can, you can leave it
<v Speaker 8>in the hands of others, but but you kind of
<v Speaker 8>also have to just you know, follow your own lead
<v Speaker 8>because no one's going to hand it to you. I mean,
<v Speaker 8>especially if you don't come from a privileged situation. There's
<v Speaker 8>nobody there waiting for you.
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I don't want to make this bet me. But
<v Speaker 6>when I got fired, I had that mentality. I was like, yeah,
<v Speaker 6>I could be sad about this and you know, you
<v Speaker 6>probably never hear from me again, or you know, spin
<v Speaker 6>it around and work my ass off is what I
<v Speaker 6>attempted to do.
<v Speaker 5>You know.
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, well it's clearly totally get that.
<v Speaker 5>I believe that well.
<v Speaker 8>And that's why I feel such a kinship with both
<v Speaker 8>of you guys, because you guys are so well rounded.
<v Speaker 8>You're entrepreneurial, but you also got a foot in this,
<v Speaker 8>you know, and I don't even want to underplay that
<v Speaker 8>you're you are full on amazing athletes ww superstars.
<v Speaker 7>But hell, that's true.
<v Speaker 8>I mean yeah, by the way, it's you are looking
<v Speaker 8>tan by the way.
<v Speaker 4>No, but I feel I feel the same way. It's
<v Speaker 4>all about you know, it's it sounds like, you know,
<v Speaker 4>follow your dreams, but it's more than that. If you
<v Speaker 4>want something to happen, the only one who's going to
<v Speaker 4>make it happen is you right here, firm believer in
<v Speaker 4>that as well as us, you know.
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, And along the way, you collect people who believe
<v Speaker 8>in you, and and because they believe in you, that
<v Speaker 8>they're willing to do things that they wouldn't otherwise do,
<v Speaker 8>like give you opportunities to be in certain spaces at
<v Speaker 8>particular times. So, but wrestling and entrepreneurial sort of background,
<v Speaker 8>I'll tell you it really played well in my favor
<v Speaker 8>when I was at Mattel and later on at Jack's
<v Speaker 8>as well, because I, you know, I with at Mattel,
<v Speaker 8>I got involved with he Man, I got involved with
<v Speaker 8>Hot Wheels.
<v Speaker 5>What's your label now at this time.
<v Speaker 8>Right now today? Oh, Mattel. Okay, So I came in
<v Speaker 8>to Mittel associate brand manager.
<v Speaker 4>Okay, see, I don't even think many people would even
<v Speaker 4>know that that you worked for Mattel.
<v Speaker 8>Yeah.
<v Speaker 7>I think they just think of you, Jeremy Jack, Jeremy Jack, Yeah,
<v Speaker 7>of course.
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I know.
<v Speaker 8>I came in, Yeah, that's what we're doing. Came in Mittel,
<v Speaker 8>and I did the same thing that I did at Jack's.
<v Speaker 8>I essentially because I was because I had the Internet background.
<v Speaker 8>I said, where are the fans, and we find out
<v Speaker 8>where the fans are and where the most ardent community is.
<v Speaker 8>Those are the people that I want to talk to
<v Speaker 8>because they're the ones that have the most at stake,
<v Speaker 8>They're the most interested, and they're gonna have the most
<v Speaker 8>valuable feedback. So with he Man, he man dot org,
<v Speaker 8>which is still around twenty years later. Not only is
<v Speaker 8>it still around, but I made sure that guy ended
<v Speaker 8>up getting the comic book license because he was a
<v Speaker 8>very talented colorist. So we really made sure we got
<v Speaker 8>behind people that were running like independent off the grid,
<v Speaker 8>and we gave it to him over like you know,
<v Speaker 8>really well known comic book companies. But the whole reason
<v Speaker 8>for doing that is because the more in you are
<v Speaker 8>with the people that really care, the more in you're
<v Speaker 8>going to be with them, with the with I'd say
<v Speaker 8>that casual. Yeah, it feels so real to them because
<v Speaker 8>because it is, because you're in with the people that matter,
<v Speaker 8>you know, you're in with the real fans. So yeah,
<v Speaker 8>So I was there for about three.
<v Speaker 5>Years and then that where we had to Jacks.
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, we jumped ship jump ship so no io yeah man, no,
<v Speaker 8>So so what happened was so.
<v Speaker 4>In I want to know, did you go into Jack's
<v Speaker 4>wearing a blue denim vestlet's.
<v Speaker 7>It Bill Scott Hall, we're taking over.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, He's like you you don't know a while I'm here.
<v Speaker 8>No. I was twenty nine and I got a phone
<v Speaker 8>call and they were like, you want to come in
<v Speaker 8>and be the head of our boys business.
<v Speaker 5>Were you familiar with Jacks at this point?
<v Speaker 8>I was familiar.
<v Speaker 5>They made they were.
<v Speaker 6>On the rise of their Like, man, when they start
<v Speaker 6>making bone crunches in ninety six, I.
<v Speaker 5>Was like, and I'm like eleven, like, but what company
<v Speaker 5>is this?
<v Speaker 3>Right?
<v Speaker 6>And then even that first set, and I was even
<v Speaker 6>at eleven years old, I'm like, these are not well made, Like.
<v Speaker 4>Like, no, I had to return them to us and
<v Speaker 4>I quit. That's not doing recipes anymore and six.
<v Speaker 7>So that's it. I mean, obviously I'm back.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.
<v Speaker 6>I guess what I'm trying to say is there were
<v Speaker 6>people there before that the wheel's motion knew what they
<v Speaker 6>were doing because it rose, you know, and obviously the
<v Speaker 6>wrestling industry did as well, so that helped. Yeah, and
<v Speaker 6>all the popularity was there.
<v Speaker 8>No, so so I'll give them credit like they I
<v Speaker 8>think after Hasbro, so Hasbro at the time when they
<v Speaker 8>were doing the Hasbro's, to me, they were all they
<v Speaker 8>were lost on me because I think I was in
<v Speaker 8>I was in college. It was like the mid nineties,
<v Speaker 8>right early to mid nineties.
<v Speaker 5>I was at the time working back to a big
<v Speaker 5>bad That's right.
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, let's you know.
<v Speaker 7>That Big Borgan's open up.
<v Speaker 5>Opened up some green cards to these baby.
<v Speaker 8>So at the time at the time, I guess it
<v Speaker 8>just sort of it went over my head. I didn't
<v Speaker 8>I didn't even notice. I was more of an LGN kid.
<v Speaker 8>And so when I had the opportunity to come in
<v Speaker 8>at Jack's, what I noticed was that the figures that
<v Speaker 8>evolved tremendously, I mean, like like the tech Titan Tron stuff,
<v Speaker 8>it looked really good. Like I was impressed, like I.
<v Speaker 6>Knew the idea behind him was there in the Yeah,
<v Speaker 6>I think the effort in the heart was into him,
<v Speaker 6>but maybe not the execution.
<v Speaker 8>But well, what what happened was when you got to
<v Speaker 8>like ninety eight, ninety nine, two thousand, I mean, that
<v Speaker 8>was that was some pretty serious. It was an amazing
<v Speaker 8>time for wrestling in general, the best.
<v Speaker 7>A thousand product.
<v Speaker 8>Like, So, what happened was they were doing an enormous number.
<v Speaker 8>I mean, uh, and they're a publicly traded companies, so
<v Speaker 8>all of this is out there. But they were doing
<v Speaker 8>a really serious number in WWE. But by the time
<v Speaker 8>I got there in like two thousand and two, things
<v Speaker 8>had really dropped way off, basically over. Yeah, the attitude
<v Speaker 8>era was over, and really the product was being treated
<v Speaker 8>more like kids product. It was like, you know, this
<v Speaker 8>product is for kids. And by the way, this wasn't Jack's.
<v Speaker 8>This was everyone but tell everybody was treating action figures
<v Speaker 8>really for kids. Even though the people coming through the
<v Speaker 8>aisle was there was a tremendous number of collectors.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, if you were collector at that time, it was
<v Speaker 4>like frowned upon you were a loser or nerve.
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, fanboys, what they were like.
<v Speaker 4>I would go I was in high school and I
<v Speaker 4>would you know, go to Toys r US and ask
<v Speaker 4>for a give seat because I was too embarrassed, right,
<v Speaker 4>because it was just not a cool thing. Yeah you know,
<v Speaker 4>of course, brother, your cousin is offered you, no I
<v Speaker 4>need to give.
<v Speaker 8>Yeah.
<v Speaker 5>I don't think people, yes.
<v Speaker 8>That's right.
<v Speaker 6>I don't think people really appreciate how cool it is
<v Speaker 6>now that like collecting is nothing to be ashamed of,
<v Speaker 6>and like there's.
<v Speaker 5>Some of people like are so open about it and
<v Speaker 5>like you know, looking like a nerd or lose or whatever. No,
<v Speaker 5>like yeah, like actually that's exactly what it is.
<v Speaker 6>The way he's depicting forty forty year old versions is
<v Speaker 6>what like a collector there.
<v Speaker 5>Now they trying to make that movie like those guys awesome.
<v Speaker 8>Yeah cool. Yeah, this guy's got a good ball money.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, like completely different perception, you know.
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, he's got a diversified portfolio investments. Yeah, I mean
<v Speaker 8>like so so yeah fan boys. I heard that so
<v Speaker 8>many times fanboy, fan boy, fan boy and and and
<v Speaker 8>nerds and it would. I didn't like it. I really
<v Speaker 8>didn't like it because a you know, I felt like,
<v Speaker 8>you know the people that I had met who collected
<v Speaker 8>were like kind of cool, Like, in my opinion, they
<v Speaker 8>were pretty cool. Like I like those people. I'd rather
<v Speaker 8>hang out with those people than hang out with other
<v Speaker 8>And I, you know, I'm not, okay, fine, I'm not
<v Speaker 8>like the coolest guy in the world, but I'm but
<v Speaker 8>I'm also like I socially apt, like I can have
<v Speaker 8>a conversation. And I knew that most of the people
<v Speaker 8>that collected that I knew were just like like some
<v Speaker 8>of the greatest people to be around. So I didn't
<v Speaker 8>like that. But what I did like was the fact
<v Speaker 8>that other people were kind of not paying attention to it,
<v Speaker 8>and that's where you can find the great opportunities. And
<v Speaker 8>so first thing I did when I got there to
<v Speaker 8>Jack's is I looked online. It's like, okay, well where
<v Speaker 8>the biggest where the biggest communities around wrestling figures and
<v Speaker 8>ringside collectibles? Wrestling figs was like, you know, number.
<v Speaker 5>One to have discussion about figures. I couldn't think of anyone.
<v Speaker 7>Else us like being fans of the time.
<v Speaker 4>I remember you coming on board and being so vocal
<v Speaker 4>and present, and before that, like maybe we knew some names,
<v Speaker 4>but nobody was attached to the brand.
<v Speaker 7>There was no face of the brand.
<v Speaker 4>He had always with the interviews you post on there,
<v Speaker 4>so everybody knew who Jeremy was. You know, they might
<v Speaker 4>not like all your decisions all the time. They might
<v Speaker 4>put all the blame on you, like when Chinese New
<v Speaker 4>York comes around.
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, like at least.
<v Speaker 7>They knew Jeremy. He gave he gave a damn and
<v Speaker 7>he was there and he was a man of the people.
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, And thank you for that, because
<v Speaker 8>because I feel like that was that was the point
<v Speaker 8>of difference for me, Like yeah, and like, and so
<v Speaker 8>I reached out to Jonathan and I basically said, listen,
<v Speaker 8>I was like, you got a nice business. I think
<v Speaker 8>it can be even nicer, but are you ready to
<v Speaker 8>basically become like my adopted source of all of this content.
<v Speaker 8>He was entirely ready to do so, Like and he
<v Speaker 8>was having to figure out what to do because he
<v Speaker 8>was he was in college. He had to figure out
<v Speaker 8>am I going to be a college student or am
<v Speaker 8>I going to be a business person? I did I listen? Yeah, well,
<v Speaker 8>because he was thirty years started and I did. I
<v Speaker 8>heard it. I heard I heard the entire interview. Actually,
<v Speaker 8>now that I think back on it, but no, he's
<v Speaker 8>he was right. He had that moment, he had to
<v Speaker 8>make that decision, and essentially I think he made the
<v Speaker 8>right decision. And I will tell you the truth, even
<v Speaker 8>from my perspective, I didn't know whether this was going
<v Speaker 8>to be two or three years or I would have
<v Speaker 8>never like if you just said, hey, Jeremy, bet on
<v Speaker 8>the fact that Jonathan's going to make a beautiful career
<v Speaker 8>out of this and and have an entire team of
<v Speaker 8>great people with you know, Trevor and all those guys.
<v Speaker 8>I don't mean like I don't know, but but my
<v Speaker 8>responsibilit but my responsibility was to try to figure out
<v Speaker 8>who it was that was cared about the most, focus
<v Speaker 8>on them, and recognize that it's going to be our
<v Speaker 8>outlet for the best information. And so the first thing
<v Speaker 8>that we did it was two thousand and three. And
<v Speaker 8>you know, again, my love of regional wrestling, my love
<v Speaker 8>of old school wrestling, and the recognition that w W
<v Speaker 8>at the time hadn't done a lot with their with
<v Speaker 8>their with their alumni roster, a matter of fact, very
<v Speaker 8>little at all, non existent, a matter of fact, out
<v Speaker 8>a side, out of mind.
<v Speaker 6>It was that was it Yeah, it was like you
<v Speaker 6>were just gone and you were not to be spoken of,
<v Speaker 6>much less have a shirt or in a video game
<v Speaker 6>or have an action figure.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and I don't want to jump too far ahead,
<v Speaker 4>but I honestly credit everything that goes on. Now you
<v Speaker 4>buy a Chalko line jacket with like the Rock or
<v Speaker 4>Austin because of what you start with the Classic Superstars.
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I'll tell you what. It didn't hurt, but here's
<v Speaker 8>but here's the best part of it. So I had
<v Speaker 8>to make my case to you know, Vince McMahon. I
<v Speaker 8>had to make a case, and the case was that,
<v Speaker 8>you know, it's going to be good for business if
<v Speaker 8>we embrace the historical roster. But here's the way we
<v Speaker 8>can do it. And essentially what we did was our
<v Speaker 8>our offer essentially was let us go and sign up
<v Speaker 8>any of the historical athletes and we'll give you the
<v Speaker 8>whole list, and as we signed them, we'll give you,
<v Speaker 8>you know, feedback on deal terms all of those things.
<v Speaker 8>But if you ever signed them to a deal, our
<v Speaker 8>deal is immediately null and void and all rights that
<v Speaker 8>we have past you. So there's zero risk for WW zero.
<v Speaker 8>In order to end to Vince's credit, he was. It
<v Speaker 8>was like not even it was like barely even a thought.
<v Speaker 5>He's like okay and such in that time. It's kind
<v Speaker 5>of I'm surprised by that.
<v Speaker 8>Well, think about who was in wag one Ultimate Warrior
<v Speaker 8>bred hard who.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, the self destruction of Ultimate Warrior was.
<v Speaker 5>The only nostyles at the time was DVDs.
<v Speaker 4>Like that TV legit burying over two hours and what
<v Speaker 4>year was that with it for something like that.
<v Speaker 8>Is oh so that was the same time. I mean,
<v Speaker 8>think about the timing. It's unbelievable. So the thing, the
<v Speaker 8>thing that I found, you know, fascinating, was that that,
<v Speaker 8>despite you know, embracing you know, the historical roster in
<v Speaker 8>the entertainment at the time, they were willing to do
<v Speaker 8>it in consumer products. And and I feel like, you know,
<v Speaker 8>I was twenty nine years old. It was it was,
<v Speaker 8>it was you know, the only reason why I kind
<v Speaker 8>of knew to go down that path was because I
<v Speaker 8>had spent a lot of time you know, in regional
<v Speaker 8>wrestling watching and becoming fans of and then also embracing
<v Speaker 8>internet stuff. So it was a perfect combination of things
<v Speaker 8>that led me down that path at being a kid
<v Speaker 8>really twenty nine, right, and anyways, So the the initial
<v Speaker 8>approaches to like Ultimate Wear were fascinating because you know,
<v Speaker 8>we were calling each one of these athletes on the
<v Speaker 8>phone and having a conversation with them and.
<v Speaker 6>You're explaining to them that it's going to be a
<v Speaker 6>WWE product, but not because you guys are.
<v Speaker 8>The well it was a w W. So we were
<v Speaker 8>explaining that this would be a w W.
<v Speaker 5>I couldn't sell it calling it all time Wrestlings.
<v Speaker 8>No, no, it was. It wasn't difficult. So essentially the
<v Speaker 8>approach was, we are the we are the global partner
<v Speaker 8>of WWE for twice. Okay, we are the license z
<v Speaker 8>and we don't own anything. We're just the license Z.
<v Speaker 8>We'd also like to have a separate license with you,
<v Speaker 8>and WWE's allowing us to do that in order to
<v Speaker 8>include you in the WWE assortment for Classic Superstars, which
<v Speaker 8>we named Sure. And everyone was super psyched, like they
<v Speaker 8>were really psyched, like rarely was rarely, and so Ultimate
<v Speaker 8>Ware out of almost everybody that I dealt with, probably look,
<v Speaker 8>and he's a fascinating character, and you know he he
<v Speaker 8>had a lot of thoughts on a lot of things
<v Speaker 8>outside of traditional business. But he was a really solid
<v Speaker 8>business person because he saw the value in the collectible
<v Speaker 8>before it was proven, and essentially from his perspective was listen,
<v Speaker 8>you can give me a percentage and a to them guarantee,
<v Speaker 8>but what I'm really also interested in is some limited
<v Speaker 8>edition figures.
<v Speaker 5>That was my boggle and he thought of that foresight, right, yeah,
<v Speaker 5>it was. He did it all the way.
<v Speaker 6>There is you know, unfortunate death of Matelli was doing
<v Speaker 6>it all the way with this genius.
<v Speaker 8>It was really really smart.
<v Speaker 4>And say, Jeremy been worried for making those figures because
<v Speaker 4>it costs me a lot of money.
<v Speaker 7>There's only one Warrior America, so tug about guy.
<v Speaker 4>I know you're out there to track those down. Like
<v Speaker 4>at the time, it was like, how are you going
<v Speaker 4>to do this because Ultimate Warrior Legit has these five
<v Speaker 4>selling them.
<v Speaker 5>You know, they didn't even feel real. It felt like
<v Speaker 5>like a myth.
<v Speaker 4>And they were so cool. They were like it was
<v Speaker 4>just like stupid repaints. They were like incredible repaints of
<v Speaker 4>figures you needed, like the UNA Warrior, the w CW Warrior, so.
<v Speaker 5>Many cool and he shown that ever even came up.
<v Speaker 8>Uh yeah, now that I'm thinking back.
<v Speaker 5>It's a unique ask, but yeah, genius.
<v Speaker 8>No, it was. I'm glad it was unique because it's
<v Speaker 8>not an easy thing to execute against, you know, I
<v Speaker 8>mean going to the factory and saying, hey, we need
<v Speaker 8>you to do five of these paints. Yeah, it's not
<v Speaker 8>it's not ideal, but you know, I'll tell you Like
<v Speaker 8>that was one of the ways that we differentiated ourselves
<v Speaker 8>is that we did one of one hundreds, We did
<v Speaker 8>super limited edition. We made sure, we made sure that
<v Speaker 8>the collector was really part of the story.
<v Speaker 4>So yeah, so obviously these toys are for kids, right,
<v Speaker 4>but you turned it into something You saw the vision
<v Speaker 4>that they could be something so much more. There could
<v Speaker 4>be collectors chasing these figures, the Toy Fair exclusives or
<v Speaker 4>the Toy Fair Magazine exclusive or all these different variants.
<v Speaker 5>The adult collector you know.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, why so a kid going down you know, the
<v Speaker 4>Toysbus aisle can buy it, but then there's also an
<v Speaker 4>adult who wants it, like we made it for everybody.
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, really cool. Well, the goal the goal was and
<v Speaker 8>I love economics, okay, I mean, we'll say that's one
<v Speaker 8>thing that I do have a good understanding of. But
<v Speaker 8>economics is very simple. It's supply and demand. And the
<v Speaker 8>higher your supply and the closer you already meeting the
<v Speaker 8>demand curve, the more screwed you are in the end.
<v Speaker 8>And so the more you can stay behind the demand curve,
<v Speaker 8>the better. And so for me it was okay, I knew,
<v Speaker 8>because I love collectibles that if there was a way
<v Speaker 8>to stay like below demand and have a secondary market
<v Speaker 8>value that was well north of you know, what we
<v Speaker 8>were selling the product for that it would create people
<v Speaker 8>who were not necessarily interested in wrestling, or not even
<v Speaker 8>necessarily interested in action figures, to be interested in WWE
<v Speaker 8>figures specifically, And by doing that, you know, we're able
<v Speaker 8>to increase WWE sales by like seven hundred percent, and
<v Speaker 8>during a time where there was really no change in
<v Speaker 8>pay per view buys, no change in butts and seats,
<v Speaker 8>no change in anything like none of the metrics would
<v Speaker 8>support a seven hundred percent increase. It again, you know
<v Speaker 8>at all there was never a blip. But but what
<v Speaker 8>there was was there was a We managed the line well.
<v Speaker 8>We managed it well, I mean, and look, we made
<v Speaker 8>a lot of mistakes, Like honestly, Mattel's taking it to
<v Speaker 8>a great level when it comes to the authenticity and
<v Speaker 8>scale and all that stuff. But but we also did
<v Speaker 8>it better than anybody had done it before us, and
<v Speaker 8>to the extent that that's also part of the key.
<v Speaker 8>I mean, doing it better than the than the people
<v Speaker 8>who did it before you is the only markers that
<v Speaker 8>you have at the time, And I think that's you know,
<v Speaker 8>what's like.
<v Speaker 5>Day to day this point.
<v Speaker 6>Are you like all in on the classical line, are
<v Speaker 6>you working on like the active roster at the time,
<v Speaker 6>or just everything.
<v Speaker 8>So in around that time, so it was we had
<v Speaker 8>to move quickly. So the key was to by the
<v Speaker 8>time we got to toy Fair, we wanted to make
<v Speaker 8>sure that we had the classic line lined up because
<v Speaker 8>we knew that we could get the buyers excited. And
<v Speaker 8>the buyers were not excited with WW at the time
<v Speaker 8>because coming off the Attitude era, they had gone from
<v Speaker 8>such an enormous velocity and ready to sale.
<v Speaker 5>Like yet exactly, it's a weird period.
<v Speaker 8>No, John Cena was just getting in, like I saw
<v Speaker 8>met him like right away, but it was very early
<v Speaker 8>and he was just you know, he was a kid too,
<v Speaker 8>so no it uh, yeah, rate of sales, you know,
<v Speaker 8>linear productivity, all of the measures that they use at
<v Speaker 8>retail to say this is good or not good. We're
<v Speaker 8>pointing negatively. They were ready to walk away from WWE
<v Speaker 8>at retail. It was it was challenging because in my mind,
<v Speaker 8>I was like, oh my gosh, you know, I've inherited
<v Speaker 8>something here where I think that we can turn this
<v Speaker 8>into something, but we may never get there, and I'm
<v Speaker 8>moving back to Nashville. I'm getting out of here. Yeah,
<v Speaker 8>I love that. By the way, that would that have
<v Speaker 8>been a fine outcome too. You know, I've still did
<v Speaker 8>too more beef stew or something instead of collectibles.
<v Speaker 5>But a merchandise warehouse. But I'll tell you this ship
<v Speaker 5>and Jeffret guitars.
<v Speaker 8>Exactly why not? Hey man? But but but the buyers
<v Speaker 8>came in. They saw the Classic Superstars line, they saw
<v Speaker 8>some of the characters that they knew from the eighties,
<v Speaker 8>and they had a sense for it, and they were
<v Speaker 8>like and.
<v Speaker 6>Nostalgia, like even if you were a casual wrestling fan,
<v Speaker 6>and there's something to them, tugs it like your heart strings.
<v Speaker 4>Figures of guys who never had figures before. Yeah, you
<v Speaker 4>made guys from the Elder has Bro era. But also
<v Speaker 4>it was to scale with the John Cena the Randy Organ.
<v Speaker 4>It was all one scale, so it was such a
<v Speaker 4>great thing for kids playing like.
<v Speaker 5>Literally one scale, everyone's the same.
<v Speaker 8>hYP Yeah, yes that's true.
<v Speaker 4>But whatever we were in college.
<v Speaker 7>Playing with them.
<v Speaker 4>You could play with Ultimate Warrior with your John Cena,
<v Speaker 4>so like that was such a cool thing because that
<v Speaker 4>was never done before.
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, you know, absolutely, and then.
<v Speaker 4>To make guys who had never from the seventies, eighties, nineties,
<v Speaker 4>who've never had figures before. And what I also loved
<v Speaker 4>about the Classroom of Stars line is if you kept
<v Speaker 4>them in the package, it was all uniform, but all
<v Speaker 4>nice to get all the same packaging, minor color differences, yes,
<v Speaker 4>that kind of stuff like packaging.
<v Speaker 8>Absolutely no, look, we created the logos or created all
<v Speaker 8>of the everything. I mean, we really did. There was
<v Speaker 8>no real style guide for classics. So I remember when
<v Speaker 8>we were choosing the the the actual type of packaging,
<v Speaker 8>gold foil. We wanted to make sure there was gold foil.
<v Speaker 6>We wanted to make sure, yeah, differ than any other
<v Speaker 6>wrestling figure ever.
<v Speaker 5>We wanted to top it like you know what's inside of it.
<v Speaker 5>But yeah, it's just a look of it.
<v Speaker 8>It just had it had to look different, It had
<v Speaker 8>to look like it was not necessarily just for kids
<v Speaker 8>and uh and and you know what, it was great.
<v Speaker 8>I remember seeing it for the first time immediately loved it.
<v Speaker 8>A guy named Jonathan Weissman was the one that actually,
<v Speaker 8>uh designed it. I remember that he was on the team. Yeah,
<v Speaker 8>and for the first time I saw it, like I
<v Speaker 8>actually remember I drew it, actually have I think I
<v Speaker 8>have the original drawing somewhere.
<v Speaker 2>But.
<v Speaker 8>It might be the only thing I've ever drawn that
<v Speaker 8>actually may be worth more than a dollar. But uh,
<v Speaker 8>claim yeah, claim no. But it was. It was a
<v Speaker 8>great time and I felt like we were on the
<v Speaker 8>cusp with something, and especially once the buyers came in
<v Speaker 8>and they were like, you know, they walked through and
<v Speaker 8>they were like this is this is really cool? You know,
<v Speaker 8>and then you know what, it proved itself out because
<v Speaker 8>by the time we hit the you know, two thousand
<v Speaker 8>and nine, I believe it was the last one year
<v Speaker 8>we had it, and there were challenges towards the end.
<v Speaker 8>We can get into all of that, but like we
<v Speaker 8>we were bigger than the Attitude era. We we two
<v Speaker 8>thousand and nine, we were selling more product than we
<v Speaker 8>sold the Attitude Era.
<v Speaker 5>I believe it.
<v Speaker 4>Because so this past year I went back, I got
<v Speaker 4>nostalgic for these class superstars and re bought the whole
<v Speaker 4>the whole sex for that one USA Warrior, and I've
<v Speaker 4>been slowly unboxing them because it's over five hundred figures.
<v Speaker 4>Oh my god, it's insane.
<v Speaker 8>I can't believe you. I can't believe. I mean, I've
<v Speaker 8>seen I saw your your setup. It's incredible, and I
<v Speaker 8>can't imagine how much time that must have taken. I
<v Speaker 8>saw your setup too, it's intensely I know, it's intense long.
<v Speaker 7>A psychopaths, so I needed them all, you know what
<v Speaker 7>I'm saying.
<v Speaker 5>He did this in like two months too.
<v Speaker 8>I remember, I remember Frighten. It took you down some
<v Speaker 8>interesting trails.
<v Speaker 7>Oh it did gay shout out.
<v Speaker 4>But now, yes, there was a couple of stingers and
<v Speaker 4>they're like Paul Barris Tall Undertaker or something, you know
<v Speaker 4>where the back decko is not there.
<v Speaker 5>But I think the ringside task toweled debacle.
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, oh man, that almost got me killed. Well, so for.
<v Speaker 4>Those who don't know, Taz of course wears the towel
<v Speaker 4>on his head, the black towel.
<v Speaker 6>Which even that looking back on it would be a
<v Speaker 6>huge mistake because if you open that figure now that
<v Speaker 6>black Towe wil Be Oliver his face.
<v Speaker 4>Well, I don't think, Yeah, what was the deal with that?
<v Speaker 4>A lot of the soft guy, the plastics.
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.
<v Speaker 8>Anyway, No, I mean, I just think I think it's
<v Speaker 8>I think that what you're saying is right. It's just
<v Speaker 8>I think that the whatever the fabric was, over the
<v Speaker 8>course of time.
<v Speaker 4>And whatever leads it still happens today with Mattel though
<v Speaker 4>it still happen.
<v Speaker 7>It's still happening anyway.
<v Speaker 6>So they got a storm Hogan yesterdays and he was
<v Speaker 6>all excited and he opened it the whole Oh no,
<v Speaker 6>oh no.
<v Speaker 5>Underneath the shirt it's the same exact thing.
<v Speaker 4>But with this Taz it was package. So it looks
<v Speaker 4>like he's wearing you know, the.
<v Speaker 7>Siglet top and the towels are on his waist.
<v Speaker 5>So he's wearing a dress. It looks like he's wearing
<v Speaker 5>Perry sat in his dress. Yeah.
<v Speaker 8>So I don't think I I don't think I annoyed
<v Speaker 8>anyone more than task in all during the course. So
<v Speaker 8>there was yeah, there was two. So so of course
<v Speaker 8>that was the first one, and he was not happy,
<v Speaker 8>and I you know. I told him. I told him.
<v Speaker 8>I was like, listen, this is never going to happen again.
<v Speaker 5>Do something like that happen.
<v Speaker 8>Story, Here's how it happened. It happens when you're trying
<v Speaker 8>to do three hundred figures a year, freaking crazy number, right,
<v Speaker 8>Like we were doing such an intense number of figures here.
<v Speaker 8>I mean, there are figures that didn't even have the
<v Speaker 8>opportunity to fully vet review because.
<v Speaker 6>Just the glasses is four to oh nine, like I said,
<v Speaker 6>he was over five.
<v Speaker 8>Ye guys, right, that's just classics in the meantime, the
<v Speaker 8>meantime aggression.
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, oh my gosh, PA three packs, Treacherous, Trios.
<v Speaker 8>Lux aggression like Deluxe Classic, like I have all those
<v Speaker 8>two dude, we I don't know how many. We were
<v Speaker 8>doing three hundred figures a year, four hundred, Like I
<v Speaker 8>would say more, there's so many figures that we really
<v Speaker 8>I will look, I mean quantity and quality, and there's
<v Speaker 8>something to say for that. There's a happy medium too,
<v Speaker 8>like you can do too few and maybe we're doing
<v Speaker 8>too many. But it was a lot of fun and
<v Speaker 8>uh and yeah, I would say occasionally so task so
<v Speaker 8>so the first time Taz was an appy and I
<v Speaker 8>promised Taz, it's like, it's not gonna happen. And then
<v Speaker 8>I get this phone call one day and I've never
<v Speaker 8>talked to anyone who was more angry or ready to
<v Speaker 8>kill me, like physically kill me.
<v Speaker 5>And it was over.
<v Speaker 8>It was over.
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, it's in the toy community, it's referred to
<v Speaker 6>as the move.
<v Speaker 4>But it was supposed to be like in this set
<v Speaker 4>of Bruthers figures, he's a Titan Tron.
<v Speaker 6>Gibbeh way oversize it doesn't really fit the figure Bede.
<v Speaker 8>But he also felt like his body wasn't the actual
<v Speaker 8>shape that his real body like I think, you know Taz,
<v Speaker 8>of course, yeah, I mean, look, he's more of an
<v Speaker 8>athlete than ever it was. But Taz may have seen
<v Speaker 8>himself as being, you know, a physical specimen.
<v Speaker 5>I think all actually figures I always say are larger
<v Speaker 5>than life.
<v Speaker 6>Yes, you know, every cur hawkets for everybody is probably
<v Speaker 6>safe to say it's been more buffer than the real person.
<v Speaker 4>It's like all the zach Ryders are not quite so.
<v Speaker 6>I think when he sees that, you know, it's always
<v Speaker 6>like a shining example of yourself.
<v Speaker 5>And then he's sees stuff like that, You're like Oh.
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, so is me, Mike Archer and Taz on the
<v Speaker 8>phone together with Taz, basically Mike convincing Taz not to
<v Speaker 8>actually kill me and me communicating Taz you will do
<v Speaker 8>more Taz figures and please don't kill me, and.
<v Speaker 2>And uh, that about wraps it up for this edition
<v Speaker 2>of The Major Rewind. If you want to listen to
<v Speaker 2>the rest of the Jeremy interview, I'll be posting a
<v Speaker 2>part two the next edition of The Rewind. But you
<v Speaker 2>could always go back in the archives and just listen
<v Speaker 2>to the whole thing for yourselves. That's the beauty of it.
<v Speaker 2>But you know that might be a lot of work
<v Speaker 2>for you, and then you got to search for it.
<v Speaker 2>Then you got to find it, and then that's what
<v Speaker 2>I'm here for. That's what the rewind is all about.
<v Speaker 2>It's about just bringing you these little nuggets and making
<v Speaker 2>you say, oh yeah, I remember that, And a lot
<v Speaker 2>of it is stuff that you know, it's not like
<v Speaker 2>the Jeremy interview. We could just search it out. You know,
<v Speaker 2>we're picking stuff up from different episodes. So yeah, that's
<v Speaker 2>what it's all about. So shout out to Jeremy once again.
<v Speaker 2>That man is an amazing person. He's going through a
<v Speaker 2>tough time with everything, but he's taking it on the chint,
<v Speaker 2>just like our good friend of the show, Ali Catch
<v Speaker 2>and you know we got the We got our major
<v Speaker 2>Bendy coming out, So let's show her some support. Ali
<v Speaker 2>is someone who's has become a good friend of mine
<v Speaker 2>and someone I've worked with a lot the past couple
<v Speaker 2>of years and been up and down on the roads with.
<v Speaker 2>And I could tell you, man, Ali, I've seen just
<v Speaker 2>seen her growth and I truly think she's one of
<v Speaker 2>the She gets it. That's all I could say. She
<v Speaker 2>just knows the deal when it comes to professional wrestling.
<v Speaker 2>She's a hustler. She's a hard worker, student of the game,
<v Speaker 2>always willing to get in a car, and even at
<v Speaker 2>her level, we'll do stuff that you know other people
<v Speaker 2>will get too comfortable to do, but she's always She
<v Speaker 2>truly loves this and I really it hurts my heart
<v Speaker 2>to see her go down like that. But I know
<v Speaker 2>she's not going to be down and out, and I
<v Speaker 2>know she's not going to be down for long.
<v Speaker 5>So whatever we could do to.
<v Speaker 2>Help her, definitely help her out get the major Bendy
<v Speaker 2>that's I think should be able for pre order and
<v Speaker 2>just yeah, like set show her system to it.
<v Speaker 5>So I'm sure.
<v Speaker 2>Show her some support, show her some love. Ali catch
<v Speaker 2>we all love you, we love we And with that,
<v Speaker 2>I will see you guys and next time,