Dumb and Dumber (1994) vs. There's Something About Mary (1998): Part 2

<v Speaker 1>All right, everybody, welcome back. This is part two of
<v Speaker 1>our podcast on Dumb and Dummer Versus. There's something about
<v Speaker 1>Mary Doe.
<v Speaker 2>How you doing.
<v Speaker 1>I know we don't have any intro music right here?
<v Speaker 1>Do we need to turn on the radio or something?
<v Speaker 2>Radio? I don't think so you ready?
<v Speaker 1>Mock yeah yeah bird Yeah yeah.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, mocking Birdoca? Why not? Why not? So?
<v Speaker 1>I want to talk just briefly at a personal level
<v Speaker 1>about the locations of this movie. For me, this movie
<v Speaker 1>holds such a special place in my heart, Like I
<v Speaker 1>have been to some of the locations where this was shot.
<v Speaker 1>This movie was not shot in Aspen. People think it
<v Speaker 1>was an Aspen. It wasn't shot in Aspen. Aspen wanted
<v Speaker 1>too much money. This movie was shot in Breckenridge.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I've been to Breckenridge too. There was a there's
<v Speaker 2>a bank that had this very large blow up duck
<v Speaker 2>in front of it the first day that we were there,
<v Speaker 2>and then the second day we were there, I'm driving
<v Speaker 2>in a car with all of my children in it,
<v Speaker 2>and my wife goes, hey, where the giant balloon go?
<v Speaker 2>And I go, yeah, what the duck? A lot of
<v Speaker 2>trouble for that.
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, So This was shot in breck Ridge and
<v Speaker 1>so I've been to some of those spots and that's
<v Speaker 1>pretty cool. The skiing was shot at Copper Mountain Resort,
<v Speaker 1>which I'm skied there. It's really cool. But the hotel
<v Speaker 1>where they pull up in the Lamborghini and they get
<v Speaker 1>out and the we landed on the moon seen in
<v Speaker 1>the in the bar yep. That was shot at the
<v Speaker 1>Stanley Hotel in Essa's Park Overlook. It is the Overlook. Yes,
<v Speaker 1>it's called the Danbury and Dumb and Dummer. It's called
<v Speaker 1>the Overlook in the movie The Shining, right, and it's
<v Speaker 1>actually called it's called the Stanley Hotel in Essa's Park, right.
<v Speaker 1>But if you are familiar with Stephen King's movie The Shining,
<v Speaker 1>that is the hotel this is based on. So while
<v Speaker 1>they were filming there, I'll get to my story here
<v Speaker 1>in a second. While they're shooting scene at the Stanley Hotel,
<v Speaker 1>Jim Carrey requests room two three seven, which is the
<v Speaker 1>haunted room from Stephen King's The Shining, Yes, or is
<v Speaker 1>it the lady in the back. It's the naked lady
<v Speaker 1>in the bathb He checked in. He was in the
<v Speaker 1>room for three hours and when he came out. He's like,
<v Speaker 1>I am not going back in there, and he immediately
<v Speaker 1>checked out and said he would not go back in
<v Speaker 1>the room and would not tell anybody why.
<v Speaker 2>Still don't know.
<v Speaker 1>Still don't know. Now you know, Jim Carrey, you mean,
<v Speaker 1>who knows? It could be just for a laugh. The
<v Speaker 1>other story I was going to tell about Stanley, Jeff
<v Speaker 1>Daniels had no idea there was this undercurrent romance going
<v Speaker 1>on with Lauren Holly and Jim Carrey, who was because
<v Speaker 1>it's married.
<v Speaker 2>Still married at the time, Bill Mary at.
<v Speaker 1>The time, and his wife was very bitter about that incident.
<v Speaker 1>Jeff Daniels said he knew that Lauren Holly sweet was
<v Speaker 1>across from his and when he got up one morning
<v Speaker 1>to get the newspaper or whatever get some breakfast, he
<v Speaker 1>saw the door open across from his and Jim came
<v Speaker 1>out of it like that's interesting. Well see you later. Ooh.
<v Speaker 1>But anyway, I went to the Stanley this summer. They
<v Speaker 1>open it up and you can kind of go in
<v Speaker 1>there and take tours or whatever. Everybody else was interested
<v Speaker 1>in the Shining, and I was like, I like the Shining.
<v Speaker 1>I want to talk dumb and dumber, So I went
<v Speaker 1>to the bartender and I said, hey, man, can you
<v Speaker 1>kind of walk me around and tell me everybody else
<v Speaker 1>is interested in the shining. I want to know about
<v Speaker 1>Dumb and Dummer. And he's like, well, this is different
<v Speaker 1>and this has changed a little bit, but this is
<v Speaker 1>where they sat and this is where it happened. And
<v Speaker 1>he showed me. And then of course they have the
<v Speaker 1>poster on the walls. You know, we landed on the
<v Speaker 1>Moon poster and so it's all there. You can go
<v Speaker 1>visit it. The part where the Lamborghini pulls up, that's
<v Speaker 1>not a drive, it's like a small area. It's very small.
<v Speaker 1>So like the Lamborghini pulled up like fifteen feet, it's
<v Speaker 1>not very big.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the scene with the man in the moon, Yes,
<v Speaker 2>that line was completely improvised by Jim Carrey. Like, no,
<v Speaker 2>we were landed on the moon. Okay, So where they
<v Speaker 2>out in Colorado. They didn't know exactly how they were
<v Speaker 2>going to do all the ski scenes, and then they
<v Speaker 2>got like a foot and a half of snow the
<v Speaker 2>day before they started shooting. Now, this was their first
<v Speaker 2>day of shooting, and so the person who was in
<v Speaker 2>charge of scheduling was kind to them and didn't didn't
<v Speaker 2>set very much up for that first day of shooting,
<v Speaker 2>but they got it all done. They still had daylight left,
<v Speaker 2>and so they said, let's just do some improv scenes
<v Speaker 2>and see what happens. The scene between Jeff Daniels and
<v Speaker 2>Mary with the snowball fight was a complete let's just
<v Speaker 2>let's give it a try. And they went to Jeff
<v Speaker 2>Daniels and they're like, okay, well we want you to
<v Speaker 2>do She's going to playfully toss a snowball and you're
<v Speaker 2>going to hit her as hard as you can in
<v Speaker 2>the face with us. He's like, why, and they said,
<v Speaker 2>because he goes but he would know that that's going
<v Speaker 2>to hurt her. He's like, but he's in love with her,
<v Speaker 2>why would he do that? And they said, well, in
<v Speaker 2>Mice of Men, Lenny is in love with the rabbits,
<v Speaker 2>but he still strangles that as he's loving on them
<v Speaker 2>so hard. He just doesn't know how to play. It's like,
<v Speaker 2>it's either we're doing normal things or we're in a
<v Speaker 2>full on competition. And so that whole scene where he
<v Speaker 2>hits her in the face, where he shoves her face
<v Speaker 2>in the snow, and it ends up somehow being romantic
<v Speaker 2>at the end, I'm not even sure how. He's just
<v Speaker 2>laughing at himself and she starts laughing. That was a
<v Speaker 2>complete let's just see what happens kind of scene.
<v Speaker 1>That scene is so funny when she hands him the
<v Speaker 1>carrot and the two pieces of coal for an eyes
<v Speaker 1>and a nose presumably, and he makes a not an
<v Speaker 1>eye and a nose, right, eyes and nose. My friend's
<v Speaker 1>dad when we saw it, he I thought he was
<v Speaker 1>gonna split his pants. He was laughing so hard at
<v Speaker 1>that scene. Incidentally, the song playing during that montage is
<v Speaker 1>a song called if you don't Love Me, I'll kill
<v Speaker 1>Myself Yes, by a guy named Pete Drouge. Yep, Okay,
<v Speaker 1>Pete Drouge. If you'll remember back to our Nirvana Pearl
<v Speaker 1>Jam episodes from earlier, about a year ago, Pete Druge
<v Speaker 1>worked at a pizza place with Mike McCready.
<v Speaker 2>The big guitarist for Pearl Jam.
<v Speaker 1>How about that.
<v Speaker 2>Before either one of them were in any way famous
<v Speaker 2>at all. Let's talk about the interest scenes a little bit. Okay,
<v Speaker 2>we've established that you've you've got to fall in love
<v Speaker 2>with these characters religious, Let's just talk about a few
<v Speaker 2>interesting bits. Okay, So the very first time that you
<v Speaker 2>see Lloyd Christmas, he's awkwardly sticking his head out of
<v Speaker 2>a limo talking to a lady with an Austrian accent.
<v Speaker 2>So funny.
<v Speaker 1>He comes up and there's a beautiful woman. He rolls
<v Speaker 1>down his window and says, excuse me, key, tell me
<v Speaker 1>how to get to the medical school. My driver's a
<v Speaker 1>bit lost and I'm about to give a presentation of
<v Speaker 1>twenty minutes. And she speaks in an Austrian accent, and
<v Speaker 1>he says, that's a beautiful accent, New Jersey. She goes Austria. Well,
<v Speaker 1>good day, mate, let's throw another shrimp on the Bobby.
<v Speaker 2>So at the time that the Fairly brothers were in
<v Speaker 2>California being writers, what they did for money was Bobby
<v Speaker 2>waited tables and drove a limo. All right, So he's
<v Speaker 2>got the inside scoop on that. Now, Then you have
<v Speaker 2>later on when he's driving Mary to the airport. Yes,
<v Speaker 2>he turns around and is talking to her and goes
<v Speaker 2>through the light and there's a sound of a car
<v Speaker 2>wreck and you see an explosion. I have no I mean,
<v Speaker 2>on their budget, I don't know how they managed to
<v Speaker 2>make that explosion happen, but solid hysterical scene. But one
<v Speaker 2>of their big influences who they said they wanted to
<v Speaker 2>be like when they arrived in Hollywood were the Zucker Brothers.
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, from our.
<v Speaker 2>Airplane episode in case you've you don't know that one
<v Speaker 2>when they arrive at the airport. You hear the guy saying,
<v Speaker 2>the white zone is loading and unloading. Only I'm writing
<v Speaker 2>this down because there's got to And sure enough I
<v Speaker 2>found out they're big fans of the Zucker.
<v Speaker 1>That is awesome. Yeah, how about a hug.
<v Speaker 2>It's I'm a little driver. And he falls As the
<v Speaker 2>guy's walking over to the window to watch him fall out,
<v Speaker 2>Caleb's like, he's laughing. I can see him laughing. I'm like,
<v Speaker 2>how could you not if you know what's about to happen,
<v Speaker 2>how could you not be laughing at that.
<v Speaker 1>There's a couple of scenes where you can see the
<v Speaker 1>actors about to lose it. Yeah, when they're at the
<v Speaker 1>bar at the Stanley and Jim Carrey is sitting there
<v Speaker 1>and the the other girl her name is Beth Jordan, yes,
<v Speaker 1>and she's driving him crazy.
<v Speaker 2>I said to myself, run back, run for your life
<v Speaker 2>before this man kills you both? Then do you know
<v Speaker 2>what the kluts? Did? You know? And I don't care.
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to tell you he came home one night,
<v Speaker 2>dead drunk and decided he wanted to fix the sink.
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't believe him anyway, Let's talk about you. How
<v Speaker 2>can you're here?
<v Speaker 1>Bartender?
<v Speaker 2>Bartender? Yeah, I have a friend. I have a friend
<v Speaker 2>from high school, Sarah Banister. She commented on one of
<v Speaker 2>our Dumb and Dumber posts that when she starts talking
<v Speaker 2>too much, her husband and we'll just yell bartender wherever
<v Speaker 2>they might be.
<v Speaker 1>That's awesome.
<v Speaker 2>So you got a great setup, and there's something about
<v Speaker 2>Mary and so much of it depends upon the actor
<v Speaker 2>they have playing the dad.
<v Speaker 1>Right.
<v Speaker 2>So the Fairly brothers were like, okay, they got this
<v Speaker 2>guy Keith David to play the stepdad.
<v Speaker 1>That's right, mister stepdad.
<v Speaker 2>Right. And he immediately opens the door and starts busting
<v Speaker 2>his balls. What's the problem. Tutes go with her boyfriend Woogie,
<v Speaker 2>and they said that this is exactly what their dad
<v Speaker 2>would do to their sister's dates. Whenever those dates would
<v Speaker 2>show up, he would find any way he couldn't bust
<v Speaker 2>their balls. And he does a fantastic, and he he
<v Speaker 2>improvises throughout the introductory scene and he is hilarious.
<v Speaker 1>He's hilarious when he brings the baseball in and touches
<v Speaker 1>Warren's ear and Warren goes crazy and starts punching him
<v Speaker 1>and then throws him to the ground. His dad's like,
<v Speaker 1>what's wrong with you? And then they started getting into this,
<v Speaker 1>Are you the only me in my own house?
<v Speaker 2>Yes, that's all he erupt.
<v Speaker 1>Gosh.
<v Speaker 2>And so that scene, you know, they said, do you
<v Speaker 2>want to have a stuntman come in because it was
<v Speaker 2>it's a.
<v Speaker 1>Pretty like rose him.
<v Speaker 2>He chunks him hard and Ben Steelers like, nope, I'll
<v Speaker 2>do it.
<v Speaker 1>Let's let's just go.
<v Speaker 2>Let's just let me do it. Oh okay. And so
<v Speaker 2>then after the infamous zipper scene, by the way, that
<v Speaker 2>zipper that when you see that shot, you.
<v Speaker 1>Know, the shot, the shot, the money shot, the money shot.
<v Speaker 2>When you see that shot that actually was like three
<v Speaker 2>feet tall. It's a much bigger prosthetic and zipper than
<v Speaker 2>you would expect. And the zipper actually broke in the
<v Speaker 2>midst of shooting and they had to take it to
<v Speaker 2>a tailor say can you fix this? He fixed it.
<v Speaker 2>You know.
<v Speaker 1>I just can't imagine driving up to a Taylor and
<v Speaker 1>dropping it off.
<v Speaker 2>Can you fix me? What? Do you need a zipper?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no problem? What? Yes, Keith David does a great
<v Speaker 1>job when he's in the bathroom with Ted and he says,
<v Speaker 1>let's see what we got here, and he takes out
<v Speaker 1>his glasses to look at his cross. Oh my gosh.
<v Speaker 2>And then we got him water and they're taking him.
<v Speaker 2>They're taking him in the gurney. Yes, they get him
<v Speaker 2>to the ambulance and they drop him. That was not scripted.
<v Speaker 2>That just happened. Like you, if you watch the movie,
<v Speaker 2>there's this little cut whenever after they drop him, and
<v Speaker 2>then they're talking to him again, cuts to Mary for
<v Speaker 2>a second. They stopped filming after they dropped him. They like,
<v Speaker 2>are you okay? And he's like, yeah, just go with it,
<v Speaker 2>And so they started filming right back again. Hysterical. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>accidental drop Love it, love it.
<v Speaker 1>I want to talk about one of the funniest scenes
<v Speaker 1>from There's Something about Mary. Okay, he picks up a hitchhiker. Okay,
<v Speaker 1>Ted picks up a hitchhark. Ted's a good guy. We've
<v Speaker 1>already established Ted is a nice guy. Yep, and he
<v Speaker 1>just needed a little companionship, a little company. As he's
<v Speaker 1>traveling across the country, picks up a hitchharker. Un Ted
<v Speaker 1>hitchhiker has a dead body in a bag and is
<v Speaker 1>a serial killer and he's on this killing spree. So
<v Speaker 1>they pull over this rest stop, which I've already established
<v Speaker 1>that rest off is a place where homosexuals hang out.
<v Speaker 1>And as he's going to go pee in the woods,
<v Speaker 1>he stumbles over somebody, yes, and then the police turn
<v Speaker 1>on the lights, and then there's people everywhere. Right, there's
<v Speaker 1>guys doing who knows what in the woods, right, and
<v Speaker 1>Ted's like, I was just going to pee, and they're
<v Speaker 1>all like, yeah, me too, just pee yea. But all
<v Speaker 1>those guys are members of the crew from something about Mary.
<v Speaker 2>So that suggestion that rest stops are a place for homosexuals, yes,
<v Speaker 2>that is made by the psychiatrist after he tells the story, right,
<v Speaker 2>and then times up, well, you know he's he's like elevating.
<v Speaker 2>We'll talk about that one next time, right, right. So
<v Speaker 2>that actor's name is Richard Jenkins, and he's been in
<v Speaker 2>a great many hilarious movies since.
<v Speaker 1>Then, Step Brothers.
<v Speaker 2>Fantastic and step Brothers one of my favorite movies. Brilliant
<v Speaker 2>part that he plays. He actually they started filming this movie.
<v Speaker 2>They start talking to him and they find out that
<v Speaker 2>he lives in Rhode Island, and then they find out
<v Speaker 2>he lives on the street that they grew up on,
<v Speaker 2>Like he moved on to their street just a little
<v Speaker 2>while after their family moved away from the weird coincidence.
<v Speaker 2>But that guy that plays the psychiatrist, actor's name is
<v Speaker 2>Richard Jenkins, and he is funny.
<v Speaker 1>That part where he's sneaking in. He's supposed to be
<v Speaker 1>sitting there listening to his problems, he's clearly eating. He
<v Speaker 1>sneaks in the last second. Yeah, funny. The really funny
<v Speaker 1>part is when they go back to the police headquarters
<v Speaker 1>and the police are interrogating him and Ted thinks that
<v Speaker 1>he's in trouble from picking up a hitchhiker, right, And
<v Speaker 1>they think that he's in there because he's a murderer, right,
<v Speaker 1>And they're quizzing him about you know how many Ted,
<v Speaker 1>I mean, let's talk numbers.
<v Speaker 2>It is the classic confessing to a crime that you
<v Speaker 2>didn't know you were confessing to scene, but they did.
<v Speaker 2>They took it up a level and it made it awesome.
<v Speaker 2>So what I told you before, Detective Stabler is the
<v Speaker 2>bartender from Dumb and Dumber. Yes, the other detective is
<v Speaker 2>the guy from three o'clock High, the bully from three.
<v Speaker 1>Three o'clock High and Kindergarten cop yep. But as the
<v Speaker 1>interrogation is going, he slams ben Steeller's head down on
<v Speaker 1>the table like three times, and it's it was a
<v Speaker 1>pure accidental thing that the hood came over his eyes. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>and when he threw him back in the chair and
<v Speaker 1>he fell on I mean that part I died laughing.
<v Speaker 2>Right.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, there's one other scene I want to talk about
<v Speaker 1>from There's something about Mary.
<v Speaker 2>Okay.
<v Speaker 1>The scene that I want to talk about is the
<v Speaker 1>cleaning the pipes scene. Okay, it's gonna be tricky.
<v Speaker 2>This is where we get into that really thirteen side
<v Speaker 2>of PG thirteen.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, Yes, So Ted's friend Dom Wiganowski, who we
<v Speaker 1>find out is actually Woogy, Mary's former boyfriend, tells him
<v Speaker 1>that Dad's getting ready to go on a date with Mary,
<v Speaker 1>and Wiggie says, have you cleaned the pipes? And He's like,
<v Speaker 1>what are you talking about? And he's like, you know,
<v Speaker 1>spank the monkey, choked the chicken, flog the doll, flog
<v Speaker 1>the dolphin.
<v Speaker 2>You don't. You are not telling me that you don't
<v Speaker 2>flog the dophins or a big date.
<v Speaker 1>And his premise is that how do you feel right afterwards? Hu,
<v Speaker 1>He's like, I feel great, I feel fine. He's like, right,
<v Speaker 1>exactly right.
<v Speaker 2>You're thinking like a girl. You're thinking like a girl,
<v Speaker 2>which girls love.
<v Speaker 1>So basically, if you don't clean the pipes before you
<v Speaker 1>go on a date, you're going with a loaded gun.
<v Speaker 2>Right.
<v Speaker 1>He's like, my god, I've been going out with a
<v Speaker 1>loaded gun. So you have this hilarious scene where he's
<v Speaker 1>choking the chicken and can't find the results. He's lost
<v Speaker 1>the results.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, So the way they came up with this, they
<v Speaker 2>talk about how they just come up with I mean
<v Speaker 2>they write scripts together, right, yes, And so they don't
<v Speaker 2>really know where the jokes come from. But this one
<v Speaker 2>they remembered. In particular. They're driving along in a car
<v Speaker 2>and it wasn't they weren't talking about this movie. They
<v Speaker 2>were just Peter says, what if you were flogging the
<v Speaker 2>dogphins and then you couldn't find the product. And then
<v Speaker 2>Bobby's like, okay, but where would it be? And then
<v Speaker 2>that leads into well, you know what if it you know,
<v Speaker 2>what if it ends up on your shoe or in
<v Speaker 2>your hair, on your ear, and they're like oh yeah,
<v Speaker 2>and then it kind of goes back and forth. They
<v Speaker 2>drive a few more minutes and they're like, but what
<v Speaker 2>if somebody else is the one that finds it? Like,
<v Speaker 2>oh right, but what would you do? What would you
<v Speaker 2>say that it was you know? And they're like, oh,
<v Speaker 2>what else is it going to look like? And he
<v Speaker 2>goes hair gel and so at that point they're like, oh,
<v Speaker 2>we can put this in there, something about Mary and
<v Speaker 2>it's Mary is the one that suggests that it's hair.
<v Speaker 1>Sheel okay, So they had to twist Karen Diaz's arm
<v Speaker 1>to film this scene. Okay, She's like, I don't, guys,
<v Speaker 1>I just don't want to be called his hair for
<v Speaker 1>the rest of my career, right, And so they say, well, look,
<v Speaker 1>we gotta at least film it. Let's at least film it,
<v Speaker 1>and if we show it to the test audiences and
<v Speaker 1>people laugh, we've got to leave it in. And so
<v Speaker 1>she agreed that it would kind of be a test thing,
<v Speaker 1>and when they tested it people died and the way
<v Speaker 1>her hair spiked hair and she is deadpan talking to
<v Speaker 1>him and he nothing's wrong and he can't help but
<v Speaker 1>just keep staring at her her bangs. It is hilarious. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>comedy gold.
<v Speaker 2>So, speaking of comedy, another actor, and there's something about
<v Speaker 2>Mary that we haven't talked about is Norm Yes aka Tucker.
<v Speaker 2>So this guy is a brilliant actor. He's done like
<v Speaker 2>a two hour, two and a half hour long one
<v Speaker 2>man show on Broadway and has like twenty jokes permitted,
<v Speaker 2>I mean, and it is hysterical. Really, yeah, he was
<v Speaker 2>in mouse Hunt. He's really really funny. His British accent
<v Speaker 2>is terrible. It's terrible.
<v Speaker 1>Okay.
<v Speaker 2>The reason that this is funny is because he's actually British,
<v Speaker 2>which means he's brilliant because he's actually British. But he's
<v Speaker 2>playing an American who is faking a British accent, and
<v Speaker 2>so his accent would be terrible. When they showed this
<v Speaker 2>to the test audiences at the end, that the audiences
<v Speaker 2>were like, I really I thought his accent, his British
<v Speaker 2>accent was terrible. That's ridiculous. Nobody's gonna buy that.
<v Speaker 1>And like he's British. That's awesome, brilliant love it.
<v Speaker 2>The exchange between Mary and Ted about how there aren't
<v Speaker 2>enough meats on sticks is very Seinfeld esque. Yes, it
<v Speaker 2>actually was supposed to be in Seinfeld. Yeah, so they
<v Speaker 2>didn't steal it. They had. It was just one that
<v Speaker 2>Seinfeld never used. And with all of their scripts, the
<v Speaker 2>Fairly Brothers will get you know, five six seven writing
<v Speaker 2>friends together to try to punch the lines up, and
<v Speaker 2>this was a product of that, that round table session.
<v Speaker 1>Not enough meat on sticks.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you don't need more meat in a cone. So
<v Speaker 2>there's a few scenes I want to talk.
<v Speaker 1>About, flipping back to Dumb and Dumber. Yeah, So when
<v Speaker 1>they go to the truck stop and Harry spills the salt, yes,
<v Speaker 1>and Lloyd says, quick, throw some salt over your right shoulder,
<v Speaker 1>and he takes the salt container and throws it and
<v Speaker 1>it hits sea bass.
<v Speaker 2>All right, who's a dead man, and hit me with
<v Speaker 2>the salt shaker?
<v Speaker 1>Who's this big, burly, mean guy who's got a hat
<v Speaker 1>that says wind him dynam sixty nine him, And he's
<v Speaker 1>mean and he comes back and he's very upset and
<v Speaker 1>he hawks in their burger right to get him back.
<v Speaker 2>Lloyd is pointing.
<v Speaker 1>Salt shaker to get him back. Lloyd says, I've got
<v Speaker 1>a yeah, I've got an idea. So they walk back
<v Speaker 1>to the Sea Bass. He says, I'd like to buy
<v Speaker 1>you guys around the beers, just to bury the hatch
<v Speaker 1>it yep, And he's like, yeah, okay, four boiler makers.
<v Speaker 1>They go back to the waitress and they say Sea
<v Speaker 1>Bass said they were going to pick up our tab,
<v Speaker 1>and she's like what and he looks and he's pointing,
<v Speaker 1>like bring me the beers, and so they blaze out
<v Speaker 1>of there, and it's really a funny scene, right, and
<v Speaker 1>he sticks Sea Bass with the tab that was stolen
<v Speaker 1>from a movie called Something Wild, which starred Melanie Griffith
<v Speaker 1>and Jeff Daniels.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, and Jeff Daniels was the guy. They talk about
<v Speaker 2>it like I saw that scene in a movie. Oh
<v Speaker 2>did he get away?
<v Speaker 1>No?
<v Speaker 2>They know they kind of within half a mile down
<v Speaker 2>the road slit his throat, right, So have you seen something? Yeah?
<v Speaker 1>I have?
<v Speaker 2>Do you remember that scene? Yes?
<v Speaker 1>Okay, it's more tense because the guy that they're with,
<v Speaker 1>Ray Liota, is a bad guy and there's cops right
<v Speaker 1>next to him. And it said, you know, come after
<v Speaker 1>me if you dare. But there's cops right there, so
<v Speaker 1>it's tense.
<v Speaker 2>So I called, Like I said, before I came. Arla
<v Speaker 2>and I were talking on the phone. I asked if
<v Speaker 2>he had seen it. He said yes. I said, do
<v Speaker 2>you remember that scene? He was like, ah, not really.
<v Speaker 2>It was a long time ago and I was trying
<v Speaker 2>to make out with the girl. And I said, I'm
<v Speaker 2>going to steal that line. I was like, wait a minute,
<v Speaker 2>nobody's gonna believe that when I was like eleven years old,
<v Speaker 2>I was trying to make out with a girl.
<v Speaker 1>Okay. The other scene I've got to talk about is
<v Speaker 1>the toilet scene. Oh, this is the signature just like
<v Speaker 1>the hair the scene. Well, yeah, the zipper scene from
<v Speaker 1>something about Mary. This is the signature scene.
<v Speaker 2>I mean the hair jel.
<v Speaker 1>Scene, the hair jelusye right. The toilet scene is the
<v Speaker 1>signature scene from Dumb and Dumber.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Lloyd is mad at Harry for going around with Mary,
<v Speaker 1>and you know, he's supposed to be setting him up
<v Speaker 1>and instead he's skiing with her, and she touched his
<v Speaker 1>leg and all this stuff. So he pours a whole
<v Speaker 1>bunch of laxative into his cocoa or whatever tea. Tea
<v Speaker 1>has hot tea. You know what, I like, Harry, because
<v Speaker 1>you're a regular gun. And so Harry goes to pick
<v Speaker 1>up Mary and all of a sudden he has got
<v Speaker 1>to go to the bathroom like now, and it's like explosive, explosive.
<v Speaker 1>So he finds the toilet and they kept shooting it
<v Speaker 1>saying no more, Jeff louder Jeff like like you're a hurricane, Jeff,
<v Speaker 1>you know. So he kept going more and more and more,
<v Speaker 1>and Jeff Daniels says, that's my oscar scene. That's the
<v Speaker 1>best he could do. Here's the funny story about that.
<v Speaker 1>Jeff Daniels was at a golf tournament and Clintie Swood
<v Speaker 1>came up to him and said that exact thing happened
<v Speaker 1>to him while he was on a date. He had
<v Speaker 1>to go and he was at her house. Clintie Swood, Ladies.
<v Speaker 2>And gentlemen, Yeah, I had that happened to me. I
<v Speaker 2>believe it was a second date. That girl's last name
<v Speaker 2>is now Graves. Yes, indeed I married that girl.
<v Speaker 1>Congratulation giving it casey. So that scene is hilarious. The
<v Speaker 1>last scene I really want to talk about from Dumb
<v Speaker 1>and Dummer is the very end Lloyd and Harry have escaped.
<v Speaker 1>They've you know, the guys are caught and they're leaving
<v Speaker 1>town and they've they lost their hog broke down, they
<v Speaker 1>lost all the money, and they take the Diablo and
<v Speaker 1>now they're just walking.
<v Speaker 2>On the highway. It wasn't supposed to be in the movie. Okay,
<v Speaker 2>it wasn't in the original cut of the movie. You
<v Speaker 2>ended on the scene where they meet the husband and
<v Speaker 2>he has that you know, weird dream sequence where he's
<v Speaker 2>murdering the husband. Right, that was the end, And it
<v Speaker 2>was actually the studio that said, you can't end here,
<v Speaker 2>you have to have something else where, like they went.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So I heard that they were going to do
<v Speaker 1>a couple of different innings. One of them was they
<v Speaker 1>were going to go back to the Stanley Hotel the
<v Speaker 1>Danbury in the movie, and they were going to work
<v Speaker 1>for Barney babysitting his grandson, who turns out to be
<v Speaker 1>Billy the blind kid from four C with the dead parakeet.
<v Speaker 2>Nice.
<v Speaker 1>So they didn't shoot that, right, but they did shoot
<v Speaker 1>the Hawaiian Tropic bikini bus pull up and you have
<v Speaker 1>the oh Leelujah, and you think Lloyd and Harry finally
<v Speaker 1>get their big break because they need two oil boys
<v Speaker 1>to grease them up before every competition. You have these
<v Speaker 1>beautiful girls and they're like you are in luck. There
<v Speaker 1>is a town about three miles that way, and the
<v Speaker 1>studio wanted Harry and Lloyd to win, and they wanted
<v Speaker 1>him to get on the bus and become the oil boys.
<v Speaker 1>And Jim Carrey refused to shoot that scene.
<v Speaker 2>Right They the Fairly Brothers didn't want them to get
<v Speaker 2>on the bus either, and Jim Carrey said, no way,
<v Speaker 2>I'm getting on that bus, and so they were able
<v Speaker 2>to bank on him. Sorry, Jim said, no. Okay. So
<v Speaker 2>final scene of There's Something about Mary, Okay, not quite
<v Speaker 2>final scene. Okay, Let's talk about one other scene first,
<v Speaker 2>the serious scene, the scene where she gets the letter
<v Speaker 2>informing her that he had hired Pat Healley to come
<v Speaker 2>down and spy on her.
<v Speaker 1>Right, yep, so sad. It makes me sad.
<v Speaker 2>Oh, it's heartbreaking, Yes, it's heartbreaking. Again. At the beginning
<v Speaker 2>of that scene, he comes in and he has a
<v Speaker 2>ball that's signed Did you catch this?
<v Speaker 1>Yes?
<v Speaker 2>Did you catch who it was signed by? No? It's
<v Speaker 2>signed by Tony Connigliero.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, do you know who that is? No?
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so just a bit before that, you've got this
<v Speaker 2>wonderful romantic montage where they're at the batting cages and
<v Speaker 2>they're about to kiss and he gets the hook in
<v Speaker 2>his mouth. Yes, And my gosh, can I just say,
<v Speaker 2>Cameron Diaz is amazingly beautiful? Here is heavily every single
<v Speaker 2>day ges it is. It's it's mind blowing how they
<v Speaker 2>created I told you at the beginning, the studio messed
<v Speaker 2>it up.
<v Speaker 1>You didn't like Mary.
<v Speaker 2>At the end of the version that the studio came
<v Speaker 2>up with when they were working on Ed Decker and
<v Speaker 2>John Strauss's script. When the Fairly Brothers took this, one
<v Speaker 2>of the things that they said is you have to
<v Speaker 2>think that this is the perfect woman. And they knocked
<v Speaker 2>it out of the park. She's so real, she's willing
<v Speaker 2>to speak her mind. She's confident but not snow I mean,
<v Speaker 2>and she talks sports.
<v Speaker 1>She's a surgeon, she.
<v Speaker 2>Loves golf, and she is incredibly good looking. Yes, incredibly
<v Speaker 2>good looking.
<v Speaker 1>Yep, tight little package, affirmative.
<v Speaker 2>And the way you fall in love with Ben. Who
<v Speaker 2>is this? You know? Obviously Goofball and Underdog for sure.
<v Speaker 2>Is that even when he thinks she's gotten fat and
<v Speaker 2>in a wheelchair and has a bunch of illageimate kids,
<v Speaker 2>he says, I guess I still have feelings for him. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>you you buy in at that point. And so you
<v Speaker 2>see this wonderful montage. You've got them, they're about to
<v Speaker 2>be together.
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to stuff you read there for just a second.
<v Speaker 1>When Matt Dylan is describing her, he's trying to throw
<v Speaker 1>Ted off the scent right right, and he says, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>Deuce's half. Yeah, it's like bus and a half. We
<v Speaker 1>got four kids or three different guys. Oh, she's in
<v Speaker 1>a wheelchair, right, wheelchair, you know. And so Ted comes
<v Speaker 1>back and he's like, no, I really do want to
<v Speaker 1>see her, and he says roller pig. That line does
<v Speaker 1>cracked me up. Rollerkeig key going.
<v Speaker 2>So in the montage scene before that heartbreak scene, he
<v Speaker 2>convinces Warren to get in the back cages and he
<v Speaker 2>keeps like, no, get in, get in closer, and then
<v Speaker 2>bam he gets hit by the pitch right and the
<v Speaker 2>next scene you see Warren he's fishing and he's got
<v Speaker 2>a black eye, yes, because he got hit in the
<v Speaker 2>face with the ball when he comes in at the
<v Speaker 2>beginning of the heartbreak scene, he's got a ball that's
<v Speaker 2>signed by Tony Conigliaro, who was a Major League Baseball
<v Speaker 2>outfielder for the Boston Red Sox. Okay, Fever Pitch is
<v Speaker 2>another movie by the Fairly Brothers by way yep, based
<v Speaker 2>on the Boston Red Sox, which had a fantastic coincidence
<v Speaker 2>of them winning the Pennant.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's a story for another but yes, oh
<v Speaker 1>my gosh, amazing how that lined up.
<v Speaker 2>Really Anyway, he was a fantastic player for them, played
<v Speaker 2>during the Impossible Dream season in nineteen sixty seven, but
<v Speaker 2>that year he got hit in the face by a
<v Speaker 2>pitched that caused a severe eye injury and derailed his
<v Speaker 2>career and made a comeback from the injury, but he
<v Speaker 2>was never the same after that. So that is an
<v Speaker 2>amazing Like, unless you really know Red Sox history, you're
<v Speaker 2>not going to know that he got a ball signed
<v Speaker 2>by a guy who got hit in the face with
<v Speaker 2>the ball for his friend who got hit in the
<v Speaker 2>face with the ball. That's some deep stuff.
<v Speaker 1>That's awesome, man, that's awesome.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So in this movie. Another actor that we haven't
<v Speaker 2>mentioned yet who has a very small part in the
<v Speaker 2>movie is Jeffrey Tambore. You know Jeffrey Tambore. I mean
<v Speaker 2>he's everywhere, but he.
<v Speaker 1>Plays the part of Sully.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, there's a whole storyline that didn't get developed with him,
<v Speaker 2>which could have been fantastic. He is a cop who
<v Speaker 2>used to know Pat before, had gotten addicted to drugs,
<v Speaker 2>went down to Florida, cleaned his life back up, and
<v Speaker 2>was doing well again. But when Pat comes down to
<v Speaker 2>see him, he completely falls off the wagon starts doing
<v Speaker 2>cocaine again, which is why, even though they've cut most
<v Speaker 2>of his scenes out, that one scene where he's laying
<v Speaker 2>on his couch and he's reading from script about him
<v Speaker 2>working for the Peace Corps, his apartment is entire is
<v Speaker 2>a total wreck. Right. Yes, So then the scene there's
<v Speaker 2>a scene where Ted goes to find Pat after the
<v Speaker 2>heartbreak scene, right, and they walk into an apartment that's
<v Speaker 2>Sully's apartment. It's the one with the pile of dog
<v Speaker 2>crap on the floor. Remember they had the giant dog.
<v Speaker 1>Right.
<v Speaker 2>They don't really explain it because they had to cut
<v Speaker 2>all of these this storyline as it turns out another
<v Speaker 2>thing that was on the table was a giant Boa
<v Speaker 2>constrictor pet. In the original script.
<v Speaker 1>It's not it's a like a it's like a Burmese python.
<v Speaker 1>It's the it's like an it's huge.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And so they in the original script, they walk in,
<v Speaker 2>they see the snake with his huge bulge in it,
<v Speaker 2>and they think that the dog has been eaten by
<v Speaker 2>the snake. And then the dog comes out the door
<v Speaker 2>and they realize it Sully has been eaten by the
<v Speaker 2>That's that would have been a brilliant, brilliant scene.
<v Speaker 1>There's actually a deleted scene from Dumb and Dumber now
<v Speaker 1>that you mention it. JP Shay, who is Karen Duffy.
<v Speaker 1>She's trying to shoot Harry with a rifle, okay, And
<v Speaker 1>the scene where Harry gets his tongue stuck to the pole.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, and Mary is pulling on his head.
<v Speaker 1>Come off quick like a bandy, right, she's yanking on
<v Speaker 1>his head, which that seems hilarious. There is a mime
<v Speaker 1>performing at the ski resort, which this was all cut. Okay,
<v Speaker 1>this is mime and he's doing all these robotic moves
<v Speaker 1>or whatever, and as Mary pulls and like extracts his
<v Speaker 1>tongue from the pole. Shae fires. Of course she misses
<v Speaker 1>his head because it's pole. Yeah, and it goes right
<v Speaker 1>through the hand of the mime, who's like, which that
<v Speaker 1>I slapped out loud is so funny. But they cut
<v Speaker 1>all that from from Dumb and Dumbo. It's tragic hilario.
<v Speaker 2>Yes. So apparently when they first made Dumb and Dumber
<v Speaker 2>they had three hours of footage after doing all the editing.
<v Speaker 2>They had three hours of footage, yes, and they said,
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how we can cut one minute more.
<v Speaker 2>This is so funny. I don't know how we cut
<v Speaker 2>And so they brought in a test audience of like
<v Speaker 2>forty friends and forty people they didn't know, yes, and
<v Speaker 2>they show them the entire three and a half hours
<v Speaker 2>of footage, and when people are walking out, you know,
<v Speaker 2>they go to a friend and they're like, so, what
<v Speaker 2>do you think and he says, honestly, the worst, Oh no.
<v Speaker 2>And so within two days they had cut another one
<v Speaker 2>hundred and twenty minutes off of the film.
<v Speaker 1>The editing of Dumb and Dummer was great, Okay, So
<v Speaker 1>I have just a couple of tidbits from There's something
<v Speaker 1>about Mary I want to throw out here real quick.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay.
<v Speaker 1>In one of the scenes, Cameron Diaz is actually playing golf.
<v Speaker 1>There's a whole scene at a driving range. She didn't
<v Speaker 1>play golf, but they brought in somebody to stand in
<v Speaker 1>for her whose swing was worse than Cameron Diaz. So
<v Speaker 1>they left Cameron Diaz in. Matt Dillon's dad is a
<v Speaker 1>golf coach.
<v Speaker 2>He was terrible.
<v Speaker 1>He's horrible.
<v Speaker 2>They had somebody work with Cameron Diaz and she had
<v Speaker 2>a great looking swing. Yes, I mean, she hadn't swung
<v Speaker 2>a golf club before, but I mean she's just a
<v Speaker 2>natural athlete and the fact that she's built like she's
<v Speaker 2>built makes it very enjoyable to watch her swing. Now,
<v Speaker 2>her shot was not so good. So what they did
<v Speaker 2>was they would have her swing. I had a little
<v Speaker 2>cannon where they would shoot the golf ball out into
<v Speaker 2>the water to make it look like an awesome shot.
<v Speaker 1>When Cameron Diaz takes Pat Healy to that architecture exhibit, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>she says, what do you think is this art deco
<v Speaker 1>or is it Art nouveau Art nouveau, And he's like,
<v Speaker 1>our deco. He's actually correct. That was art deco. Nice.
<v Speaker 1>One other thing. During the course of the movie, Pat
<v Speaker 1>Healy says to Mary, I just wish they would make
<v Speaker 1>movies the way they used to make, you know, classics
<v Speaker 1>like The Karate Kid. Yes, Matt Dylan and Ralph Macchio
<v Speaker 1>starred together in the movie The Outsiders.
<v Speaker 2>Filmed Untilsa, Oklahoma, home of our friend and host of
<v Speaker 2>the show, mister Jason.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, we've got to cover that at some point. Yeah, okay,
<v Speaker 1>So just a couple of tidbits from Dumb and Dumber. Okay,
<v Speaker 1>the rat poison pills that they actually use. Those are smarties,
<v Speaker 1>those candy smarties.
<v Speaker 2>Uh huh.
<v Speaker 1>Out with the batter and the good air gas man.
<v Speaker 2>How do they know? I have again?
<v Speaker 1>And they just told Jim Carrey to go crazy and
<v Speaker 1>that's why he scorted ketchup and mustard all over the place.
<v Speaker 2>And Jeff Daniels went with it. I just died. Wait
<v Speaker 2>a minute, No, that's wrong, Jeff Daniel.
<v Speaker 1>Jeff Daniels did it first and then carry Oh.
<v Speaker 2>Just squore straight up in the air in his nose.
<v Speaker 2>That's right.
<v Speaker 1>If you would like to buy the mini bike that
<v Speaker 1>Lloyd and Harry ride all the way to Aspen, that
<v Speaker 1>is called a taco twenty two okay, and it's something
<v Speaker 1>you can actually purchase.
<v Speaker 2>I've got a dogmobile that I can trade you four
<v Speaker 2>straight up.
<v Speaker 1>They're driving an eighty four sheep. And then finally, I
<v Speaker 1>can't really recommend the sequel to Dumb and Dumber, but
<v Speaker 1>the sequel starts in a mental institution where Lloyd has
<v Speaker 1>been catatonic for twenty years because of his loss of Mary, right,
<v Speaker 1>and Harry visits him regularly and is finally like, come on, dude,
<v Speaker 1>you got to pull yourself out of this, and Lloyd's like, gotcha,
<v Speaker 1>And it's a big joke that he was catatonic for
<v Speaker 1>twenty years as a result of Mary Dumbingham.
<v Speaker 2>I'm impressed that you watched that. I'm impressed that you
<v Speaker 2>watched Dumb and Dumber, or even more, do youpen to
<v Speaker 2>catch the cartoon.
<v Speaker 1>I've never seen the cartoon.
<v Speaker 2>The cartoon is interesting because not because I've seen it
<v Speaker 2>or anything like that, but because you've got the guy
<v Speaker 2>who played Dauber from Coach Vote voicing Harry, and the
<v Speaker 2>guy who voiced Lloyd is Matt Frewer aka Max Headroom.
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, that's right, Max Headroom. Okay, we've been going
<v Speaker 1>a long time. Before we get the final judgment, I
<v Speaker 1>want to talk just for a second about the soundtracks. Okay, okay,
<v Speaker 1>Dumb and Dummer for me has one of my favorite
<v Speaker 1>soundtracks of the nineties. Yep, you've got some great songs
<v Speaker 1>on there. We talked about Pete Druge, just a whole
<v Speaker 1>lot of great songs. Crash Test Dummies have a couple
<v Speaker 1>of songs in the movie the That is the greatest
<v Speaker 1>charade song to ever play. If you're ever playing trades,
<v Speaker 1>need a song, that's the best one. But I love
<v Speaker 1>that soundtrack for there's something about Mary Yea. At the
<v Speaker 1>end in the closing credits, they sing build Me Up Buttercup,
<v Speaker 1>Yes by the Foundations, and they had clearly as they
<v Speaker 1>worked their way through the scenes in the movie, they
<v Speaker 1>had collected people's lip singing them yeah. And the closing
<v Speaker 1>credits are some classic they're all singing build Me on
<v Speaker 1>a Buttercup. Two wonderful soundtracks from the nineties. Yep, let's
<v Speaker 1>talk final juasument.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, you go first, all right, these.
<v Speaker 1>Movies are both freaking hysteric.
<v Speaker 2>Let's see it. Just agreed.
<v Speaker 1>There are parts of both movies that I just die
<v Speaker 1>laughing the first time I saw them, and today I
<v Speaker 1>still die laughing. They're so funny. I know people that
<v Speaker 1>are this is not through type of humor, and I'm
<v Speaker 1>sorry for you, right, I feel bad for you because
<v Speaker 1>these movies. These movies bring.
<v Speaker 2>Joy to my soul.
<v Speaker 1>But for me, the better of the two. It has
<v Speaker 1>more heart, has more laughs, has a more compelling plot.
<v Speaker 1>It's dumb and dumber all the way, one hundred percent
<v Speaker 1>by a landslide.
<v Speaker 2>That's your opinion, But your opinion is wrong.
<v Speaker 1>Surely you can't be serious.
<v Speaker 2>I am serious, and don't call me Shirley agreed that
<v Speaker 2>Dumb and Dumber is a hilarious movie. I gotta say
<v Speaker 2>the first time I said I didn't really care for
<v Speaker 2>it had to grow on me. What, Yeah, it had
<v Speaker 2>to grow on me. I was not the same. Thing's
<v Speaker 2>true for Asvan Tura. It took me a while to
<v Speaker 2>enjoy Jim Carrey movies. Loved him in a living color,
<v Speaker 2>but took me a while to warm up to them.
<v Speaker 2>Now I think they're great. I've gotten on board with them, okay,
<v Speaker 2>but there's something about Mary. I immediately went out and
<v Speaker 2>rewatched again because it was so good because you have
<v Speaker 2>all of the humor that you have from Dumb and Dummer,
<v Speaker 2>and I would argue more. I mean, dumb and Dumber's
<v Speaker 2>got a lot of funny stuff. I on rewatching There's
<v Speaker 2>something about Mary, was laughing. I was having to put
<v Speaker 2>my hands over my face to contain my laughter. I
<v Speaker 2>was laughing so hard at the Zipper scene, at the
<v Speaker 2>scene with the dog with Matt Dillon, at the scene
<v Speaker 2>with the dog with Ben Stiller where he's wrestling, I mean,
<v Speaker 2>there were pains in my side. I was laughing so hard. Funny,
<v Speaker 2>and as far as a plot goes, it is far
<v Speaker 2>and away a better plot line than Dumb and Dumber.
<v Speaker 2>And Dumb and Dumber, you have no mystery. Everything is
<v Speaker 2>given away. We know who the bad guy is at
<v Speaker 2>the beginning. There are no surprises with There's something about Mary.
<v Speaker 2>There are these little hints that they drop throughout the
<v Speaker 2>movie that you have no idea about until you get
<v Speaker 2>to the end and you're like, whoa dom is Woogie?
<v Speaker 2>Whoa Brett is Brett? Fava? What? Okay? So they call
<v Speaker 2>him pacman. I didn't catch it. They talk about him
<v Speaker 2>being a corn I didn't catch any of that stuff.
<v Speaker 2>No sir, and this one, I this line escaped me
<v Speaker 2>every time. It wasn't n till the commentary that I
<v Speaker 2>was like, oh, when Dom is there and there in
<v Speaker 2>the yard talking about Mary, and he's got the kids, who,
<v Speaker 2>by the way, are like Bobby's kids, right, and the
<v Speaker 2>dog who's like Peter's dog, and the wife who's like
<v Speaker 2>the producer's wife. When he's got that and it's obviously
<v Speaker 2>a fantastic life that he has, and Ben Stiller points
<v Speaker 2>out that it's a fantastic life, and he says, yep,
<v Speaker 2>each day is better than the next, and his expression,
<v Speaker 2>I was just like, he doesn't really mean it. But
<v Speaker 2>then I thought about the line. I didn't think about
<v Speaker 2>the line. But he doesn't say each day is better
<v Speaker 2>than a last, right, he says each day's better than
<v Speaker 2>the next, which means it's getting worse and worse. I
<v Speaker 2>was shocked at the end on several levels. He walks
<v Speaker 2>out crying. I believed it. I was like, holy crap,
<v Speaker 2>she's gonna end up with Brett. He loses, right, and
<v Speaker 2>then they pay it off and she comes out and
<v Speaker 2>she has a little messing with him bit and then
<v Speaker 2>he says, you're effing with me right, and she's like, no,
<v Speaker 2>I think I'd be happiest with you. That moment sold.
<v Speaker 2>It sold so hard, there's no question for me. There's
<v Speaker 2>something about Mary has got to be the better at
<v Speaker 2>least two mets.
<v Speaker 1>Wow, that's unbelievable. I can't believe you said that. All right, well,
<v Speaker 1>we want to hear from you. Where are you on
<v Speaker 1>this argument? You guys love them dummer? Do you love
<v Speaker 1>something about marry The town's back That way
<v Speaker 2>To town, domb