Ep. 432:The Complete Hulk Hogan | The Birth of Hulk Hogan (Part 4, Cocoa Beach)

<v Speaker 1>It's The Lapsed Fan Wrestling podcast special report.
<v Speaker 2>The Lapsed Fan presents the Complete Hull Kogan, a real
<v Speaker 2>American story, brought to you by Garage Pierre Us.
<v Speaker 3>It's not working out for Terry Bolea in the professional
<v Speaker 3>wrestling business. Can you believe it? Brother, he's concerned. I mean,
<v Speaker 3>how do you know him? What Matt Suda trade his trust? Brother?
<v Speaker 3>Matt Suda told him it was a shoot. And here's
<v Speaker 3>Eddie Graham who I grew up watching brother even though
<v Speaker 3>that wasn't born when he was wrestling reruns? Is that brother?
<v Speaker 3>Watch reruns? Brother shout out to ever pointed out that
<v Speaker 3>when Dusty Roads is actually headlining at the Fort Hester,
<v Speaker 3>ly Hogan would have been fourteen. And he continues to
<v Speaker 3>say he was nine when he first laid eyes on
<v Speaker 3>Dusty Roads in Tampa. That's there's what's wrong with that?
<v Speaker 3>Come on absolutely five years, but it's not working out.
<v Speaker 3>This is yet yet another file and under the from
<v Speaker 3>the beginning of the show. The file that's probably thickest
<v Speaker 3>for TLF is finding instances, be it in movies or
<v Speaker 3>be it in pro wrestling, where the biggest names, the
<v Speaker 3>biggest draws, the biggest box office attractions, the most memorable yep, characters, films, concepts,
<v Speaker 3>matches all almost didn't happen because someone at the very
<v Speaker 3>very beginning just didn't see it. That's that's honestly, that's
<v Speaker 3>the that's that's so common, so so common that if you,
<v Speaker 3>if you know, you missed one little window, you know,
<v Speaker 3>it would have been a whole different story. Anytime we
<v Speaker 3>do a classic film under the cinemat, I literally sit
<v Speaker 3>there with my arms folded waiting for you to bring
<v Speaker 3>up the news article about how some dumbass studio head
<v Speaker 3>just passed on it. Yep. How many times? I mean, seriously, seriously,
<v Speaker 3>how many fucking times have we have? We heard that?
<v Speaker 3>In both in both sides, you know, like there's it's amazing,
<v Speaker 3>it's I guess what's really amazing is that we we
<v Speaker 3>call so many people geniuses when in reality, people can't
<v Speaker 3>see beyond their fucking nose. O. You know, more often
<v Speaker 3>than not, they can't see beyond their nose, and they're
<v Speaker 3>so you know, they're they're also probably petrified of their
<v Speaker 3>job and being found out to be the fraud that
<v Speaker 3>they are, and they can't detect something original. They can
<v Speaker 3>only detect right things that are derivative of something they've
<v Speaker 3>seen work before and listen, and you know what, I'll
<v Speaker 3>take one thing about that. I'll say, that's gonna be hard.
<v Speaker 3>You know, like we all think we can see uh uh,
<v Speaker 3>you know beyond what we're what we're experiencing now. But
<v Speaker 3>it's hard. It's hard to say this is gonna be hot,
<v Speaker 3>this is going to be the next fucking big thing,
<v Speaker 3>this is going to be brock Lessner. Absolutely, it's human
<v Speaker 3>nature to not be able to have that that gene.
<v Speaker 3>But what's annoying is when people in retrospect pretend that
<v Speaker 3>they had that eye. Oh that's the worst. And for
<v Speaker 3>Hulkgan slash Cherry Blay, I think what we have here,
<v Speaker 3>it's coming into focus for me as we continue the
<v Speaker 3>complete Hulk Hogan here on the Lapsed Fan Wrestling podcast,
<v Speaker 3>the Definitive audio laydown of Hulk Hogan's life and times.
<v Speaker 3>I was just curious, how many, how many, how many
<v Speaker 3>tributes have there been so far? Like about for Hulk Hogan,
<v Speaker 3>you know another other podcast, have you noticed I haven't
<v Speaker 3>even looked that wouldn't I wouldn't call anything a tribute
<v Speaker 3>And as much as like we would call it a tribute.
<v Speaker 3>I mean, of course, every podet episode, That's what I mean, Like,
<v Speaker 3>you know there there, there are how many shows have
<v Speaker 3>kind of did their little thing, recapped all the same
<v Speaker 3>ship that everyone and their mom fucking recapped and they're
<v Speaker 3>done and then moving on. Now we're here, We're the
<v Speaker 3>only is it. We're the only ones that just say,
<v Speaker 3>you know what, fuck this history calls. We will bring
<v Speaker 3>everything to a screeching halt, drop everything until the mission
<v Speaker 3>is complete. And why can we do that? Why can
<v Speaker 3>we have the gump shin to do that without being
<v Speaker 3>afraid of alienating listeners. It's because we have the realist
<v Speaker 3>listeners in podcasting, wrestling. I don't care what category you
<v Speaker 3>want to talk about. They're there. They say, you know what,
<v Speaker 3>ten years, eleven years, you've earned the trust. We're putting
<v Speaker 3>the cake behind it. Go do your thing, and so
<v Speaker 3>we will and so we are. And what's coming into
<v Speaker 3>focus for me around Hogan is that before he really
<v Speaker 3>dialed up the Die in a Ball, nobody saw him
<v Speaker 3>as a wrestling superstar. Jerry Briscoe, Eddie Graham, Mike Graham,
<v Speaker 3>Heiro Matsuda, Blair, I don't know, just anybody can think
<v Speaker 3>of because you know what, he's just a tall, lanky bitch.
<v Speaker 3>Of course, he looks like someone you should bully, Yes,
<v Speaker 3>especially should that's the thing, right, you should bully him, right.
<v Speaker 3>And I'm not saying it's like I'm saying, I'm putting
<v Speaker 3>myself in the mind of people in that time frame.
<v Speaker 3>Of course, I'm not saying in this modern condition that
<v Speaker 3>he should be bullied, but I'm thinking that's basically the
<v Speaker 3>use that they would put someone of his proportions to
<v Speaker 3>in the wrestling business such as it existed in Tampa,
<v Speaker 3>Florida at the time. There's a reason Hogan keeps bringing
<v Speaker 3>up that Mike Graham was a jock and didn't like
<v Speaker 3>him everything. It's because, like the undercurrent is somebody who
<v Speaker 3>wasn't an athlete or wasn't a jock that has potential
<v Speaker 3>in the wrestling business was going to have that potential
<v Speaker 3>strangled in the crib in Florida Championship Wrestling in the
<v Speaker 3>nineteen seventies. Well also too, people can pretend later until
<v Speaker 3>he got on the gas big time, that they saw it,
<v Speaker 3>and I'm here to conclude that that is not true.
<v Speaker 3>I also think, you know, honestly, if you look at
<v Speaker 3>I mean, if you look at it at a Mike Graham, Okay,
<v Speaker 3>let's look at him. He's you know, yes, he's an athlete,
<v Speaker 3>but five eight, five eight, two hundred and thirty pounds,
<v Speaker 3>huge issue, you know, like, think about it in Bruno
<v Speaker 3>Sanmartino ten, five ten. These are not big men. I
<v Speaker 3>think that's something to kind of consider in terms of finding,
<v Speaker 3>you know, in terms of like big stars, they weren't.
<v Speaker 3>They weren't big. Now you were able to be the
<v Speaker 3>toast of your town and your wrestling circuit being a
<v Speaker 3>moderately sized guy, you know, yeah, yeah, and that Pedro
<v Speaker 3>Morales five ten, Yes, you got the Briscoes with an
<v Speaker 3>ownership steak. Look at Jack Briscoe, Yep, he wouldn't stand
<v Speaker 3>out as big at any point past the seventies. And
<v Speaker 3>you know that's because, of course, people dialed up bodybuilding
<v Speaker 3>drugs so much that it became a ridiculous arms race.
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, Jack Brisk's only six feet right, or was
<v Speaker 3>rather not. He's not it anymore. The reason New York
<v Speaker 3>is a big band's territory is because all these local
<v Speaker 3>yogls want to get the big men the fuck out
<v Speaker 3>of their territory. So they can be over right, right,
<v Speaker 3>And I mean I think that's that's just a you know,
<v Speaker 3>Hogan wasn't I mean, even Billy Graham, Well, he was
<v Speaker 3>certainly big. He's six', four he's Not hogan. SIZE i
<v Speaker 3>mean six to four is certainly, tall but it's not
<v Speaker 3>like it's not that, tall do you know WHAT i?
<v Speaker 3>Mean like it's it's definitely, tall but it's not like,
<v Speaker 3>crazy crazy. Tall and that's part of the reason why
<v Speaker 3>there was years and years and years of like how
<v Speaker 3>tall Was Hulk? Hogan that was like a huge, Obsession, yeah,
<v Speaker 3>right why he went out of his way to tell
<v Speaker 3>all these stories about how his mother used to measure
<v Speaker 3>people when they'd come over the, house including, Him and
<v Speaker 3>that's how he knows he lost height because of all
<v Speaker 3>the back. Surgeries, hmmm because probably some record came out
<v Speaker 3>that showed him we'll get to, it that showed his
<v Speaker 3>actual height and it contradicted said was as whole career
<v Speaker 3>a big issue and so, yeah it's it's, YEAH i.
<v Speaker 3>Was i'm always wary of the idea That hulk doesn't
<v Speaker 3>realize he's telling the, lies because when you go chronologically
<v Speaker 3>and march the way we, do it's, Like, okay, no
<v Speaker 3>he pretends that he doesn't know what he said last
<v Speaker 3>week or this, week but everything is crafted to respond
<v Speaker 3>to some new piece of evidence that surfaced publicly that's
<v Speaker 3>contradicted what he said all, along and so he the
<v Speaker 3>in between, stories these these myths always seem to serve
<v Speaker 3>to connect why you said this before and you're saying this.
<v Speaker 3>Now the truth is always. EVOLVING i think that's probably
<v Speaker 3>going to be one of the take. Homes whenever we
<v Speaker 3>finish this, thing you, know probably twenty thirty eight or,
<v Speaker 3>something that's when it'll come crashing. DOWN i think we
<v Speaker 3>should just go to twenty three oh, three just to be,
<v Speaker 3>honestly you might as well let's keep doing it twenty
<v Speaker 3>three oh three because we're here because of whul. Cocain
<v Speaker 3>so there's no other, reason there's no it wouldn't make
<v Speaker 3>any sense to do anything. Else. Yep and so until
<v Speaker 3>it's all fucking all been sifted through and analyzed and,
<v Speaker 3>analyzed and you, know that's it analyzed and. ANALYZED i
<v Speaker 3>really like. That, Yeah i'm shocked that came to this
<v Speaker 3>long and to come up to that, One but, YEAH i,
<v Speaker 3>mean if you look At hogan's you know match listing you,
<v Speaker 3>know of his. Career it starts in seventy, seven and
<v Speaker 3>there's a big smokeing hole between seventy seven and seventy,
<v Speaker 3>nine no matches and s and one asks themselves, like
<v Speaker 3>how how is that? Possible, well we're laying it. DOWN
<v Speaker 3>i mean all the matches we listed last time we
<v Speaker 3>were with you in Covering hogan's very first matches in
<v Speaker 3>the business roll in the fall of nineteen and seventy,
<v Speaker 3>seven and we know that he gets very frustrated by
<v Speaker 3>the way he was being, used by the way he
<v Speaker 3>was being, paid by the lack of bookings that he was,
<v Speaker 3>receiving and pretty much figures, that you, know this isn't the.
<v Speaker 3>Money i'm not striking gold LIKE i THOUGHT i. Would you,
<v Speaker 3>Know i'm not making these salaries THAT i peaked on
<v Speaker 3>those bank, records, brother THAT i was looking, at and
<v Speaker 3>so probably should have gone back to the. Bank well he,
<v Speaker 3>would trust, Me Haul hiven always goes to the. Bank
<v Speaker 3>and we're about to map out for you here just
<v Speaker 3>such a fascinating little period Of Hulk hogan's life where
<v Speaker 3>ironically he pushes away from, wrestling he leaves, wrestling he quits,
<v Speaker 3>wrestling and then takes up an exercise and lifestyle regimen
<v Speaker 3>that will transform him from the awkward butt of the
<v Speaker 3>joke to a hulking monster that nobody can help but
<v Speaker 3>turn their heads at when he walks.
<v Speaker 4>By.
<v Speaker 3>Interesting it took a year In Cocoa beach For Hulk.
<v Speaker 3>Hogan For Terry, BOLEA i would argue to truly Become Hulk,
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<v Speaker 3>stuff you know they're gonna you, know in the future
<v Speaker 3>when when the world is destroyed and it's completely post
<v Speaker 3>apocalypse and stuff like, that there's gonna be there's gonna
<v Speaker 3>be a small a small group all, right of of of, extraterrestrials,
<v Speaker 3>yes who find wrestling to be. Fascinating they're gonna say
<v Speaker 3>who Was hul? Cooking, Right they're gonna say who Is Hulk?
<v Speaker 3>Hogan and and they're gonna and they're gonna listen to
<v Speaker 3>all these other things that, like, well they tell them
<v Speaker 3>the same fucking. Thing but, well wait a. Minute but these,
<v Speaker 3>guys these two fucking clowns over, here they spent years on.
<v Speaker 3>Him they're giving it to, me and they're pointing out
<v Speaker 3>the contradictions across every version of every. Story and we're
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<v Speaker 3>seth lean, Right i'll tell, you tell you how fascinating it. Was,
<v Speaker 3>Fuck i'm like seriously, thinking wait a, MINUTE i don't
<v Speaker 3>EVEN i was, LIKE i don't remember how it. ENDED
<v Speaker 3>i KNOW i was falling asleep at the. END i
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<v Speaker 3>there was a LEGIT i mean there was a legit
<v Speaker 3>moment where my you, know even even though there was
<v Speaker 3>a legit moment WHERE i had that panic of falling,
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<v Speaker 3>supposed to be really falling, asleep you get that feeling. Anyway,
<v Speaker 3>yeah people ask how do we do? It how do
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<v Speaker 3>that's the. Start oh, god how About sena And styles
<v Speaker 3>in A hall Of mirror's Meta, matt what a what
<v Speaker 3>a bizarre FUCKING i can't EVEN i don't even know
<v Speaker 3>what to. Say you, know the fact that that's that
<v Speaker 3>match is getting so much love is really AND i
<v Speaker 3>DON'T i don't fault people for enjoying it because it
<v Speaker 3>was entertaining from what it, Was, yes but it's, like
<v Speaker 3>where are we? It mads, ME i Went terry funk
<v Speaker 3>on that. One where are? We where are? We and
<v Speaker 3>is the wrestling business? ANYMORE i don't even. KNOW i
<v Speaker 3>don't even know what to even think about when you
<v Speaker 3>get two, guys WHICH i think is so funny, too
<v Speaker 3>because BECAUSE i think OF Aj styles and although you,
<v Speaker 3>know he says That John cena made, HIM i CAN
<v Speaker 3>i see him as being one of those people who's
<v Speaker 3>so Anti John, cena like the opposite Of John, cena
<v Speaker 3>and then to kind of get roped into doing, this
<v Speaker 3>that's such a good point. Cartoon you would you would
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<v Speaker 3>two three four five time period because he Wasn't John.
<v Speaker 3>Cena he was exactly presenting the opposite of what a
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<v Speaker 3>Whether Hulk coogan actually. Died all that, More ladies and
<v Speaker 3>gentlemen of The Solar system on the fourth season Of
<v Speaker 3>Late Night, wrestling do check it, out and we're bringing
<v Speaker 3>the stories to. You you, know we're we're coloring in
<v Speaker 3>why that means something that you heard our interviews with
<v Speaker 3>folks that That Terry greut playing music with in high
<v Speaker 3>school and and, Beyond my, god are we giving you
<v Speaker 3>the full three dimensional picture of a very very elusive
<v Speaker 3>and difficult person to pin down if you can call
<v Speaker 3>him a. Person, yeah, Right Hul cogan and of course
<v Speaker 3>on Our Chopped teas, store all manner of NON t
<v Speaker 3>shirt related merchandise from from hoodies and, pants fanny, packs
<v Speaker 3>all kinds of fun holiday gifts for The Solar system
<v Speaker 3>member in your. Life it's always so so lovely to
<v Speaker 3>hear from lapsed spouses who are, like you, know LIKE
<v Speaker 3>i kind of don't get, it BUT i kind of get,
<v Speaker 3>it you, know, exactly it's. EXACTLY a great one recently
<v Speaker 3>was From, georgia From. Ireland this was. Great this was.
<v Speaker 3>Great since my husband has found your, show including What
<v Speaker 3>i've been informed as a decade of, backlog he has
<v Speaker 3>spent hours on end doing household. Chores wanted to send
<v Speaker 3>you a quick note to thank. You, yeah that's what's.
<v Speaker 3>Up that's what's. Up you're. Welcome she's gonna get a
<v Speaker 3>lapsed wife's shirts. Sooner thanks. Salthly we are to send
<v Speaker 3>it to her even without him buying it FOR i,
<v Speaker 3>mean you know that kind of stuff where it's, Like,
<v Speaker 3>okay we are having the effect we imagine in our wildest,
<v Speaker 3>dreams we're having on people who take the time to
<v Speaker 3>listen to the. Show. Yep and that's that's the way
<v Speaker 3>it should. BE i, mean we're we're at this. Point
<v Speaker 3>we've already seen the photos Of hulking training to Be
<v Speaker 3>Super destroyer first first, Matches we've seen The Fu. Manchu
<v Speaker 3>we've seen we can observe The Fu. Manchu it's my
<v Speaker 3>understanding that certain members of The Solar system may even
<v Speaker 3>be Growing fu man shoes to keep pace with the
<v Speaker 3>complete hulkg and to keep the. Spirit shout out To
<v Speaker 3>benjamin in. Particular you think maybe some of the some
<v Speaker 3>of them are gonna be, uh are gonna be. JUICING
<v Speaker 3>i think they could use That bolia. Shirt you're damn.
<v Speaker 3>Right how far do you want to take? It? Brother
<v Speaker 3>to really ride that? Wave ride that? Wave, YEAH i
<v Speaker 3>mean The Fu manchu is just what a chill by this?
<v Speaker 3>Guy if he didn't go handlebar like in seventy. SEVEN
<v Speaker 3>i wonder if we're. Here it's, True it's. True you know.
<v Speaker 3>That you know we've talked about how important that that
<v Speaker 3>that that stash. Is you, know the it doesn't can
<v Speaker 3>you imagine is there a world like where you can
<v Speaker 3>imagine a Whole cogan without the, mustache like clean shaven
<v Speaker 3>and without the. Skullet why is it so? ICONIC i
<v Speaker 3>don't KNOW i really don't. Know it's such a it's
<v Speaker 3>such a crazy thing to think, of you, know the
<v Speaker 3>the biggest wrestling hero being looking in some ways so
<v Speaker 3>average and so not what you would consider to be
<v Speaker 3>your big. Hero, yeah for anyone in your life that
<v Speaker 3>you think about, it it's like, right but it's like
<v Speaker 3>it's Like. Superman Imagine superman with a scullet and and
<v Speaker 3>and a handlebar like you'd think he was. Trash you'd Think, superman,
<v Speaker 3>like what the fuck is wrong with? You why do
<v Speaker 3>you look like That you're gonna save the? Day get?
<v Speaker 3>Out get away from. Me i'd rather. Die it's. AIR
<v Speaker 3>i don't know who pointed this, out but it is
<v Speaker 3>a good. Point it does serve to draw the eye
<v Speaker 3>line lower to his face instead of the top of his,
<v Speaker 3>head and he can like be but everybody. Knows it's
<v Speaker 3>not like he's fucking hiding. Anything everybody fucking. Knows everyone
<v Speaker 3>sees the dome and we just talked about it last,
<v Speaker 3>time like it's it's. Great the shiny dome works for,
<v Speaker 3>him man like it, does but we're Not hulka maniacs
<v Speaker 3>to this. Degree if he had a full head of
<v Speaker 3>hair looking Like edge when he came back like any if,
<v Speaker 3>anything that's that's kind of, It, LIKE i don't know
<v Speaker 3>IF i could have been a fan of him without
<v Speaker 3>the fitting hair to begin. With it's so. True, yeah
<v Speaker 3>it does look like he's got a fried egg on his,
<v Speaker 3>head what of? It a fried egg in cased and
<v Speaker 3>hot dog skin. Flyused so if we're going to figure
<v Speaker 3>out the narrative and the significance of this interlude In
<v Speaker 3>Terry bolay's life between flirtations with the wrestling, business we've
<v Speaker 3>got to reset the table from where we were last.
<v Speaker 3>Time we of course went through the match With Brian
<v Speaker 3>blair and talked in great detail about how it served
<v Speaker 3>to be a point of amusement for those in the
<v Speaker 3>locker room In, Chieflin florida that, night or at the
<v Speaker 3>curtain As Terry buley And Brian blair were given fifteen
<v Speaker 3>extra minutes they didn't expect to pretend to have a,
<v Speaker 3>fight and that kind of that puts us on the
<v Speaker 3>course to reintroduce, you so to, speak to reorient you
<v Speaker 3>as to Why Terry boley decided to quit the wrestling
<v Speaker 3>business for the second time so. Far and we're going
<v Speaker 3>to turn it over to some sound that are Pal
<v Speaker 3>Brad bluccian captured dealing in his dealings for his Book
<v Speaker 3>the Six, pack and of course a reminder That Brad's
<v Speaker 3>patreon is live and available as part of this unholy
<v Speaker 3>alliance that we have reached with him to be able to. Fortify,
<v Speaker 3>oh you, KNOW i should have had the fucking The
<v Speaker 3>Holy alliance theme, Ready i'm kind of glad you, didn't
<v Speaker 3>BUT i haven't heard that in a long.
<v Speaker 4>Time, so.
<v Speaker 3>Well did they mix it With, WELL i don't remember
<v Speaker 3>what they fucking, did But i'm Gonna i'm gonna look
<v Speaker 3>it up right now And i'm going to sing. It
<v Speaker 3>we're working on, It we're working on.
<v Speaker 5>It.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah So brad on His patreon is is making available
<v Speaker 3>a lot of the audio that he did uh for
<v Speaker 3>The the Six pack. Book and if you hop over
<v Speaker 3>to his patreon patreon dot, com slash to the Brad
<v Speaker 3>pack and subscribe to the four ninety five per month,
<v Speaker 3>tier you can get a personalized autograph book plate for
<v Speaker 3>the Six, pack and you can reach out To brad
<v Speaker 3>via the bradpack dot. Com tell him signed up so
<v Speaker 3>you're a fan, listener get the mailing addressed to him
<v Speaker 3>and let him know so as we go in the complete.
<v Speaker 6>In Dean Dean Dean Dean Dean Dean dean de dean
<v Speaker 6>de de de deed de.
<v Speaker 7>De he he.
<v Speaker 3>Tell you you put no well though sadly. Yes so
<v Speaker 3>uh as we, Go brad's gonna be posting audio from
<v Speaker 3>his book that aligns with where we are in the
<v Speaker 3>Hop cogan. Timeline he's got an views of a ton
<v Speaker 3>of people that interacted With terry in his formative, years
<v Speaker 3>so we're excited to do. That and as part of
<v Speaker 3>the sharing, initiative we've got this piece here From Jerry,
<v Speaker 3>brisco who we delineated quite a bit in our last
<v Speaker 3>episode talking about this match with With Brian, blairs kind
<v Speaker 3>of the precursor to Why terry just kind of throws
<v Speaker 3>his hands up on the whole.
<v Speaker 8>Thing So terry's starting, starting and it's so really early
<v Speaker 8>and has been really early.
<v Speaker 4>In the business life Of. Terry so they go.
<v Speaker 8>Out and there we did one fall twenty minute time
<v Speaker 8>living second or third. Match so they're out there and
<v Speaker 8>they're really doing, good really doing, good and that's one
<v Speaker 8>of those, armories LIKE i, said and Then florida in the,
<v Speaker 8>summertime it's you, know they're not air conditioned.
<v Speaker 4>So and people could smoke back in all.
<v Speaker 8>Day so so the six hundred people then probably five
<v Speaker 8>hundred are, smokeing so that army is just big melling
<v Speaker 8>with with a tobacco cloud of. Smoke and plus it's
<v Speaker 8>probably one hundred and ten degrees underneath those, las all,
<v Speaker 8>right that there, too you could tell they're kind of
<v Speaker 8>huffing and. Puffing so let's play a rib ball and
<v Speaker 8>let's extend the match in another twenty. Minutes so and
<v Speaker 8>so you, know as a as a performer and as a,
<v Speaker 8>wrestler as you're going along in your, mass you're picking
<v Speaker 8>up the temple as you get to the to the
<v Speaker 8>last seventy eighty five, Minutes so get that five minute,
<v Speaker 8>mark you're starting.
<v Speaker 4>To really, go really. Go and as you.
<v Speaker 8>Get, closer you know you're picking up a, temple so
<v Speaker 8>you're using more energy and you're in the smoke filled
<v Speaker 8>damn furnace room.
<v Speaker 4>There so we get word out to and.
<v Speaker 8>Send announcing five, minutes announce this match has just been
<v Speaker 8>extended at another twenty. Minutes and you could just see
<v Speaker 8>when they when they hit that market, phone when they
<v Speaker 8>respect that five minute, call and ladies and generals matter
<v Speaker 8>has been a trended to another twenty. Minute the, people
<v Speaker 8>of course go well because they're having a blowout, match
<v Speaker 8>and you could see the look On bride's.
<v Speaker 4>Face like what the hell AM i going to do
<v Speaker 4>with this? Bigga so they'll be now for another twenty.
<v Speaker 4>Minutes so basically we put them.
<v Speaker 8>In a position where they got to restart the match
<v Speaker 8>and just see How terry reacts to stuff like, that
<v Speaker 8>and he passed with flying colors and they finished the match.
<v Speaker 8>Off at the end of forty. Minutes they got.
<v Speaker 4>An demn, ovation just like a main event Would. Brian
<v Speaker 4>brian deserved.
<v Speaker 8>The credit for that for carrying carrying the guys though so,
<v Speaker 8>good but it was it was kind of funny and
<v Speaker 8>they both got back to shoot us.
<v Speaker 4>Out they knew who it were came from because we
<v Speaker 4>WERE i was. Intern other than, that, yeah he's.
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<v Speaker 3>And jp so resetting the table. There why don't you
<v Speaker 3>read From hulk's second, Book, boss how he. EJECTED i
<v Speaker 3>just want to, SAY i don't understand the number, one
<v Speaker 3>the the how THE i, MEAN i imagine he's just
<v Speaker 3>he's just blowing, smoke but the fact that they had
<v Speaker 3>a blowout, match like really like they were fucking having
<v Speaker 3>a blowout. Match hogan's like one of his earliest. Matches
<v Speaker 3>and what you decided to what you decided to do
<v Speaker 3>is with shit on, it right and and and, right
<v Speaker 3>and you decided, like let's let's treat the rookie like.
<v Speaker 3>SHIT i can see doing that to someone who didn't
<v Speaker 3>have a blowout match right Right. EXACTLY i don't like.
<v Speaker 3>EXACTLY i don't like disguising like fucking with someone as initiation.
<v Speaker 3>RITUALS i also, don't SO i GUESS i also. DON'T
<v Speaker 3>i don't understand the. Logic, ACTUALLY i take it, back
<v Speaker 3>actually BECAUSE i don't understand the logic either, way because
<v Speaker 3>in my, mind if you, know you get a new
<v Speaker 3>guy out, there you want him out of there as
<v Speaker 3>fast as, possible because if he's in there for too
<v Speaker 3>long and he starts showing what how fucking green he,
<v Speaker 3>is it makes your, whole your whole promotion look like, Shit,
<v Speaker 3>hey you put the hood on, him because he didn't
<v Speaker 3>want people to see him and, exactly and then you're
<v Speaker 3>gonna give. Him you're gonna give him twenty more minutes
<v Speaker 3>like you want. Him you want a guy to go
<v Speaker 3>out there and just look like. Garbage, possibly you, know
<v Speaker 3>obviously we don't. Know we, Didn't we, Didn't we never.
<v Speaker 3>Saw but if it's anything like that fucking workout video we,
<v Speaker 3>saw it's not. Pretty you, know it's a blow up,
<v Speaker 3>match just like a main. Event but doesn't that make
<v Speaker 3>you like it's just weird to? Me, say, well maybe we. Don't,
<v Speaker 3>yeah maybe we, don't just to see how we would. React,
<v Speaker 3>well how we reacted was almost clearly in the business
<v Speaker 3>and putting fucking you, know put the putting the business
<v Speaker 3>negative one hundred million. Dollars. Yeah on the way back
<v Speaker 3>from the, RING i was so worried and was so.
<v Speaker 3>Upset there were tears in my. EYES i don't think
<v Speaker 3>any of the guys saw, it BUT i was a.
<v Speaker 3>Wreck i've thrown everything in my in my, life in my, life,
<v Speaker 3>jury in my life away for this dream of. Wrestling
<v Speaker 3>it wasn't a. Dream can we can we just clarify
<v Speaker 3>that that it wasn't a. Dream, oh it's just, like,
<v Speaker 3>OH i can make more doing. This it was, like,
<v Speaker 3>OKAY i can't do music anymore because music is the.
<v Speaker 3>Dream this is not the. Dream this is just if
<v Speaker 3>this was the. Dream his asses on The Robertson High
<v Speaker 3>school wrestling, team, right he this is the, Fallback this
<v Speaker 3>is the. Fallback my music career was was on. NOW
<v Speaker 3>i was so. Fixated i'm making this thing, work this
<v Speaker 3>thing which means this thing. Money, yeah and this was
<v Speaker 3>WHAT i got myself. INTO i was, shaking practically, bawling
<v Speaker 3>THINKING i don't want to BE i want to hold
<v Speaker 3>to be a wrestler. ANYMORE i felt like a, loser an.
<v Speaker 3>Outsider well wait till ninety, six the twelve year old
<v Speaker 3>fat KID i. WAS i was, WEAK i felt. SICK
<v Speaker 3>i just wanted to get out of. THERE i was
<v Speaker 3>so scared and so messed. Up it was ALL i
<v Speaker 3>could do to gird myself and get ready to face my.
<v Speaker 3>Fate AS i pushed through the doors and stepped into
<v Speaker 3>the locker room where all the wrestlers were waiting with
<v Speaker 3>beers in their, hands, congratulations you made. It what the, hell,
<v Speaker 3>brother they're cheering for? Me, yeah the rid was, over
<v Speaker 3>you made, it Right the whole thing had been a,
<v Speaker 3>goof a big goof at my, expense and, yeah a
<v Speaker 3>big goof at the big goof's. Expense how about That
<v Speaker 3>they patted me on the back and shook my. Hand
<v Speaker 3>someone handed me at. Beer they were all so happy
<v Speaker 3>THAT i made it through the, match and everybody was
<v Speaker 3>talking about what a good Fight i'd Given. BRIAN i
<v Speaker 3>wonder nothing is as it appears To hulk his first.
<v Speaker 3>Experiences he's exactly. Exactly you, know hazing is a pretty
<v Speaker 3>Calm it's pretty common in. FRATERNITIES i guess it's pretty
<v Speaker 3>common in the military. TOO i had no idea it
<v Speaker 3>was a write a passage of the wrestling. World in,
<v Speaker 3>fact you, know maybe it wasn't all That maybe it
<v Speaker 3>wasn't all that. Common MAYBE i was just an unlucky
<v Speaker 3>stiff who is too naive for the other wrestlers to pass.
<v Speaker 3>Up you, KNOW i was completely. DAZED i didn't understand.
<v Speaker 3>IT i didn't understand why they would do something like.
<v Speaker 3>That you, know it's still so weird to think about even.
<v Speaker 3>Now it still upsets. Me but they're in the locker
<v Speaker 3>room on that on That august, night for the first
<v Speaker 3>time in this whole crazy endeavor That i've devoted my
<v Speaker 3>life to for more than a. Year, now the other
<v Speaker 3>wrestler stopped treating me like some dumb ass kid for a.
<v Speaker 3>Momently they treated me like one of their own. Brother,
<v Speaker 3>yeah they sure. Did, yeah and he has to go
<v Speaker 3>find out now That Pat patterson isn't gonna fuck him
<v Speaker 3>in the ass or whatever the. Hell it's just a
<v Speaker 3>great first experience For TERRY. Boleya we're gonna do kind
<v Speaker 3>of a two Faced terry on this, one which is
<v Speaker 3>might might seem like a redundant, phrase but, yeah because
<v Speaker 3>he's got two books and they're two different stories man
<v Speaker 3>on just about. Everything they're a little so boss will
<v Speaker 3>give you book, Two i'll give you book. ONE i
<v Speaker 3>figured that was a good start AND i would be
<v Speaker 3>appearing on the card on a regular. Basis but now
<v Speaker 3>That i'd gotten into the wrestling, business they wouldn't book. Me,
<v Speaker 3>ah THAT'S i to go on a. Shirt now That
<v Speaker 3>i'd gotten into the wrestling, business they wouldn't book. Me
<v Speaker 3>sounds like you hadn't gotten into the wrestling. Business, actually
<v Speaker 3>that's that might be a sign that you did not
<v Speaker 3>get into the wrestling. Business they would give me just
<v Speaker 3>one night a Week monday at The, sportatorium And i'd
<v Speaker 3>get paid just twenty, dollars twenty five. DOLLARS i kept,
<v Speaker 3>asking why do you, guys why don you guys let me?
<v Speaker 3>Wrestle there was no reason for it at. Least, also
<v Speaker 3>was He Dennis stamp all of a sudden.
<v Speaker 10>Not?
<v Speaker 3>Booked? Fucked NOW i understand the. Reason what do you
<v Speaker 3>think is coming? Next? Uh because they thought he was
<v Speaker 3>so great Like, Graham Oh, god the promoter's son had
<v Speaker 3>gotten into the wrestling business a few years before. Me
<v Speaker 3>he was a star, already and in high school we
<v Speaker 3>hadn't been the best of. Friends so it was that
<v Speaker 3>old high school rivalry that kept me from. Wrestling. Well
<v Speaker 3>From mike's, father he didn't even you didn't even fucking
<v Speaker 3>LIKE i, mean from WHAT i, gathered from what we know,
<v Speaker 3>anyway you didn't even fucking cross. Paths but you're in different.
<v Speaker 3>Worlds we're gonna get a little more meat on that
<v Speaker 3>bone as we, go some, others other parties to the.
<v Speaker 3>Dynamic of, Course mike AND i are great friends. NOW
<v Speaker 3>i love him to, death you, Know, oh don't get me,
<v Speaker 3>wrong love them to. Death, OKAY i love everybody to
<v Speaker 3>death now that now that now that you're in, Dad,
<v Speaker 3>terry and you admit that you don't love, Him, yeah, right,
<v Speaker 3>exactly how that we're past that. Point but at the
<v Speaker 3>time he didn't want to give me a chance to outshine.
<v Speaker 3>Him so remember. It Charlie lay was the guy that you,
<v Speaker 3>know man's the ticket booth at The, sportatorium and he's
<v Speaker 3>the guy that's been around the territory forever and. Ever
<v Speaker 3>he's kind of like The bronco lu bitch or the
<v Speaker 3>Yeah David manning. Type Charlie lay kept on encouraging. Me
<v Speaker 3>he kept, saying hang in, there, Kid but after four,
<v Speaker 3>Months i'd only wrestle ten, matches even less than one a.
<v Speaker 3>Week well that's just Because Boss ruth wouldn't give him the, bookings, Fright? Jerry?
<v Speaker 3>Exactly come, On jerry. Didn't jerry wasn't participating in a
<v Speaker 3>in an initiative to drive this guy out of the,
<v Speaker 3>business not at. All why would he do. That i'm
<v Speaker 3>not letting you have a damn. Booking i'm not your goddamn. Secretary, Hey,
<v Speaker 3>terry you think one, day, this this Humble tampa bode
<v Speaker 3>is going to be covered in frame photos of you
<v Speaker 3>pretending to fight other. People let me tell, You i'll
<v Speaker 3>tell you what a. Chance uh, uh not at, all
<v Speaker 3>Because i'm just gonna have photos Of kenny up there
<v Speaker 3>in his. Family, wow imagine real. Family terry pisses her
<v Speaker 3>off one, day he comes to the. House we've all
<v Speaker 3>seen it by now on WCWOR. Wwftv every wall in
<v Speaker 3>this modest home is covered With hulkogan. Pictures but he
<v Speaker 3>comes home one time after bissing her, off and all
<v Speaker 3>the pictures are on the, wall but she's cut out
<v Speaker 3>Little kenny heads and put them all on. Hulks oh my,
<v Speaker 3>God oh my. God. Yes and WHEN i did, RUSTLE
<v Speaker 3>i didn't like. It i'll be out there fighting for
<v Speaker 3>twenty or thirty minutes in the opening. Match, okay, yeah
<v Speaker 3>you were booked to work thirty minutes after you couldn't
<v Speaker 3>handle fifteen and. FIFTY i just don't. Understand this is
<v Speaker 3>WHAT i don't understand at. All, like it just makes
<v Speaker 3>no sense to. Me, yep, punching, kicking, punching. Kicking it
<v Speaker 3>wasn't like the exciting wrestling THAT i had witnessed with
<v Speaker 3>the main event guys who knew what they were. Doing
<v Speaker 3>in the, END i couldn't make a living at. It
<v Speaker 3>twenty five dollars a week didn't pay for, much AND
<v Speaker 3>i couldn't see a time When i'd be making any
<v Speaker 3>more than. That, FINALLY i did the one THING i
<v Speaker 3>never THOUGHT i would, do the one thing no one
<v Speaker 3>on The tampa wrestling scene expected of. ME i Quit.
<v Speaker 3>Roller what could have? Been, well we have Some we
<v Speaker 3>have a different online here to pick up on next,
<v Speaker 3>too thanks To. Terry so we're turning back now to book.
<v Speaker 3>Two we're gonna swing it over to the Boss, man and,
<v Speaker 3>uh let's see How terry marches us, through how he
<v Speaker 3>ends up leaving his Beloved. Tampa oh, boy you, know
<v Speaker 3>sometimes you gotta be careful what you wish. FOR i
<v Speaker 3>was so focused on getting into This florida wrestling, circuit
<v Speaker 3>so focused on not Letting matsuita beat me beat me,
<v Speaker 3>down so focused on being, accepted THAT i didn't look
<v Speaker 3>at the bigger. PICTURE i still have blinders. On after
<v Speaker 3>that first, MATCH i Expected i'd be able to make
<v Speaker 3>a living at this, thing this. Thing, brother everybody, else
<v Speaker 3>Like Brian blair And Paul orndorff Was that's the second
<v Speaker 3>time he's brought up how they got it easier than he. Did,
<v Speaker 3>yeah he brings it up every. Time, well they were,
<v Speaker 3>wrestling you, know six nights a, week you, know rotating
<v Speaker 3>From West palm To tampa To miami To jacksonville To.
<v Speaker 3>Sarasota ME i was only getting in two. Bookings you,
<v Speaker 3>know When day In, miami which is a five hour
<v Speaker 3>drive each, way And monday In. Tallahassee he just said.
<v Speaker 3>Money he just Said monday at the. Sportatorium he just
<v Speaker 3>said it in his other. Book, Well tallahassee's s, portatorium,
<v Speaker 3>brother which is a five and a half hour drive each.
<v Speaker 3>Way that's that would be the. Thing he would create
<v Speaker 3>a story about How tallahassee's building actually was called the
<v Speaker 3>sportatorium to, right people don't know. That you're, like why
<v Speaker 3>did he just say? That and then when you do
<v Speaker 3>this you realize why he said what everybody, like no
<v Speaker 3>matter what he could, say sportatorim in every fucking town
<v Speaker 3>he ever fucking resident in a. Sporatorium he just didn't
<v Speaker 3>know about, it, Right oh, yeah that's what. Sportatorium and
<v Speaker 3>you don't, nderstand, BROTHER i called it the. Sportatorium, brother you.
<v Speaker 3>Understand the sportatorium In, Amherst New hampshire was fucking. Big
<v Speaker 3>no one else called it, that, Brother we called it
<v Speaker 3>The Nashville High gym where my grandfather lifted a one
<v Speaker 3>pounds blue rock with this fucking pinky. DUDE i remember
<v Speaker 3>all our members being on his farm and seeing these huge.
<v Speaker 3>Hands you, mean the guys who worked for, him, right
<v Speaker 3>you mean the you mean the comeback after hooking up
<v Speaker 3>was wrestling was uh you, know AND i. WAS i
<v Speaker 3>MEAN i was only getting two Bookings wednesday In, miami
<v Speaker 3>which is the Five tallahasi was a five and a
<v Speaker 3>half hour drive each, way AND i was always the
<v Speaker 3>one who had to. Drive all the other wrestlers would
<v Speaker 3>pile into my van and drink beer and then sleep
<v Speaker 3>on the way. Home this this would offer for three
<v Speaker 3>or four, MONTHS i was barely making any. Money you.
<v Speaker 3>Know more than, that it started to feel like some
<v Speaker 3>kind of rib, again LIKE i was being taken advantage.
<v Speaker 3>Of this. Guy look at that and see, That look
<v Speaker 3>at that's that's this is it his whole, Life he's
<v Speaker 3>just taken. Advantage he ruined his life by going into
<v Speaker 3>the wrestling. Business well just he didn't have the comlornment for.
<v Speaker 3>It he's too paranoid ABOUT i, know like he's just
<v Speaker 3>like ult. EVERYWHERE i wonder if the wrestling business caused this, Though,
<v Speaker 3>yeah it is a nature versus nurture, Question, yeah like
<v Speaker 3>is this a learned? Trait? Again FINALLY i mentioned this
<v Speaker 3>to my Friend Charlie, lay the old guy at the
<v Speaker 3>front desk of The, supiorratorium and he looked at me
<v Speaker 3>and he said SOMETHING i must have been just too
<v Speaker 3>deaf to hear at the. Moment, kid you don't get.
<v Speaker 3>It they don't want you around. HERE i knew he was.
<v Speaker 3>Right we all know that feeling when you when you
<v Speaker 3>hear something you know is the, truth but it's something
<v Speaker 3>you've been dreading and you just didn't want to. Hear,
<v Speaker 3>yeah it knocks you in the. Stomach AND i, Mean
<v Speaker 3>i'm fighting the truth from day. One but say that
<v Speaker 3>Because jerry thought he had a blowout match and had
<v Speaker 3>all the potential in the world and just wasn't getting
<v Speaker 3>the phone calls when he was. BOOKING a look they
<v Speaker 3>give they just, Say i'm just saying, this all, Right
<v Speaker 3>they they come, in all, Right i'm wearing the front.
<v Speaker 3>Dead doesn't matter who it is they come. In they.
<v Speaker 3>Ge't they give me an envelope with a bunch of
<v Speaker 3>cash in, it AND i, said whatever the fuck they,
<v Speaker 3>want BUT i don't. Know you, know it doesn't matter to.
<v Speaker 3>ME i got, nothing all, RIGHT i don't care what
<v Speaker 3>he doesn't even know who this guy was. WAS i
<v Speaker 3>have to also SAY i did not put it Past
<v Speaker 3>hogan to put those words In Charlie lay's, course a
<v Speaker 3>party other than, Him, uh you, know confirming that, Suspicion, Charlie,
<v Speaker 3>YEAH i, mean is there is there A Charlie? Laie
<v Speaker 3>do we have confirm that this person? Existed, okay, yes he. Definitely,
<v Speaker 3>well you know WHAT i. DIDN'T i don't know, Him
<v Speaker 3>So i'm just gonna say THAT i knew he's. Right you,
<v Speaker 3>know we all know that. Field even Though i'd had
<v Speaker 3>on my first match and the matches after that all
<v Speaker 3>went really. WELL i was getting real good in the
<v Speaker 3>ring and starting to find ways to really pump up the.
<v Speaker 3>Crowd and even THOUGH i survived that, suit his, training
<v Speaker 3>and even THOUGH i suffered through that hazing or whatever
<v Speaker 3>you want to call, that that ship they put me,
<v Speaker 3>THROUGH i was never going to escape the stigma of
<v Speaker 3>being a. Mark that's why he wrote still a mark
<v Speaker 3>on the. Program from that matches, there it is these
<v Speaker 3>These florida wrestlers were all were always going to treat
<v Speaker 3>me like some kind of kid who didn't deserve to be.
<v Speaker 3>There with that one one last flip or a HOPE
<v Speaker 3>i met with that suit And jack And Jerry, brisco
<v Speaker 3>PEOPLE i thought were, fun were real friends by that.
<v Speaker 3>Point to ask about wrestling six weeks a, night six
<v Speaker 3>nights a, week rather six weeks to, night he'd do that.
<v Speaker 3>Too Probably probably a solution they come up with was
<v Speaker 3>to transfer me to another territory up In Kansas. City
<v Speaker 3>that was that no offense Of Kansas. City BUT i
<v Speaker 3>wasn't about to be banished off To. Hicksville i'm sure
<v Speaker 3>it wasn't gonna sit there and be humiliated anymore THAN
<v Speaker 3>i already been been for the last year and a.
<v Speaker 3>HALF i can't even get a tan In Kansas? City?
<v Speaker 3>Brother how? Almost how almost to say tann In Kansas? City?
<v Speaker 3>DUDE i think what he doesn't say there is What
<v Speaker 3>beefcake says in his book That Harley, quite who of
<v Speaker 3>course Owned Kansas, city and you work for him when
<v Speaker 3>you went To Kansas city and the other, Guy Bob
<v Speaker 3>Geigel harley quite enjoyed smashing beer cans On terry's head
<v Speaker 3>in a bar when he was working For Eddie graham
<v Speaker 3>down In florida as. Well, wow so, uh let the
<v Speaker 3>first seed be planted In hogan's lifelonge paranoia About Harley, Race,
<v Speaker 3>okay because the fact that he reacted that, Way i'm
<v Speaker 3>sure he flashed right to you, Know harley and six
<v Speaker 3>other veterans bumming a ride in his van from no no.
<v Speaker 3>Compensation oh can you imagine just the stink in that? Car,
<v Speaker 3>JESUS i don't understand how all these wrestlers can bum
<v Speaker 3>rides Off terry if he's not getting booked in all these, towns,
<v Speaker 3>right where's he driving? To why is he on the?
<v Speaker 3>ROAD i guess HE'S i, mean, yeah exactly where's he?
<v Speaker 3>Going m mm, hmmm includes, Saying so that was the.
<v Speaker 3>End three four months into my professional wrestling. CAREER i walked.
<v Speaker 3>AWAY i was. Done here's How Jerry briscoe remembers.
<v Speaker 8>It when he first, QUIT i was really disappointed, because
<v Speaker 8>LIKE i, said you, KNOW i thought this guy was.
<v Speaker 4>Do you remember like why he at that point why
<v Speaker 4>he quit it.
<v Speaker 8>And lack of bookage and just lack of. MONEY i,
<v Speaker 8>mean you're you're on the road and, here you're getting
<v Speaker 8>a twenty, payoff you're driving for four, hours you're in
<v Speaker 8>the arena for three or four, hours and you're driving
<v Speaker 8>another four. Hours so you're putting in twelve and make
<v Speaker 8>a twenty twenty five. Bucks and you, know he's young
<v Speaker 8>and a big and he he knows that he can
<v Speaker 8>go to a gym and make more money at a
<v Speaker 8>gym than he Can Kim.
<v Speaker 4>Resling at that, time it was a tough life for
<v Speaker 4>guys starting to. End, yeah it really.
<v Speaker 3>Was this is After jerry misremembered That terry's first fit
<v Speaker 3>of quitting resulted in him putting in a phone called
<v Speaker 3>events a senior and getting it or booked In memphis or.
<v Speaker 3>Whatever he actually quit before. That oh, yeah that's. Right, yeah,
<v Speaker 3>yeah that's. Right oh my. God so that that's where we.
<v Speaker 3>Stand so what's The holster to? Do What's Terry bull to?
<v Speaker 3>DO i called the guy Named White bridges over In Cucoa.
<v Speaker 3>Beach he only plays called The Anchor. Club that was
<v Speaker 3>part of the rock and roll ster CIRCLE i used
<v Speaker 3>to be. In he was he was just really, built
<v Speaker 3>forty year old blondehaired. Guy what is he talking about?
<v Speaker 3>Himself this forties really built forty year old blonde haired
<v Speaker 3>guy who loved the party and always had lots of
<v Speaker 3>girls around Mast sure WHY i called? HIM i want
<v Speaker 3>you to say that, again for REASONS i will make
<v Speaker 3>in a little. While i'm not sure WHY i called, Him,
<v Speaker 3>okay all, Right, yeah MAYBE i thought i'd go visit,
<v Speaker 3>him hang out for a, while blow off some. Steam
<v Speaker 3>i'll try to figure, out you, know what the HECK
<v Speaker 3>i was going to do. Next you, know MAYBE i
<v Speaker 3>just wanted to say hi and see how he was doing. You,
<v Speaker 3>anyway WHEN i mentioned that the wrestling thing wasn't really
<v Speaker 3>working out much to my, surprise why he made me an, Offer,
<v Speaker 3>well why don't you come over here and help me
<v Speaker 3>run the? Club? Oh, shit done, deal, brother what's? Gone
<v Speaker 3>go beach? HERE i. COME i mean it's that. Simple,
<v Speaker 3>NOW i want you to picture in your head what
<v Speaker 3>you think Why bridges looks. Like can you do that for?
<v Speaker 5>Me?
<v Speaker 3>Yes you're picturing him right? Now, Yes and THEN i
<v Speaker 3>want you to, well we'll share this with The Solar
<v Speaker 3>system and, again as, always in the Complete Hall coke
<v Speaker 3>and if we, forget please let us. Know huge shadowed
<v Speaker 3>as always to the Homie matt for tracking this. One. Down,
<v Speaker 3>okay so you have a, picture can you describe what you're?
<v Speaker 3>PICTURING i, mean, honestly If i'm being completely, honest just
<v Speaker 3>because of the Name, Bridges i'm thinking Of Lloyd. Bridges
<v Speaker 3>but like With, Hulk hogan's body get, Ready oh, boy
<v Speaker 3>it's not Fucking bob From Twin. PEAKS i mean it
<v Speaker 3>looks like who is? IT i, mean this is he's.
<v Speaker 3>BUILT i guess he's supposed to be. BUILT i. GUESS
<v Speaker 3>i mean this clearly is After hulk's broken. In, YEAH
<v Speaker 3>i mean he LOOKS i mean he he kind of
<v Speaker 3>looks like the love child Of Michael madgen And James.
<v Speaker 3>Spader CAN i CAN i just say, something, yes, Boss Whitey. Bridges,
<v Speaker 3>OKAY i want you to fucking burn that in your,
<v Speaker 3>Mind Whitey, bridges BECAUSE i think white he provides perhaps
<v Speaker 3>the bridge From Terry bulay to Hul, yes by putting
<v Speaker 3>him on This Coke beach. Circuit, Brother oh, Hey, terry
<v Speaker 3>come on, Up come on, up come on. Up man
<v Speaker 3>with an should come over here run the. Club. Good,
<v Speaker 3>LOOK i got plenty of blow plenty of girls like
<v Speaker 3>what does he look? LIKE i was, like you know
<v Speaker 3>what he looks? Like he looks like someone that runs
<v Speaker 3>a bar slash rock club In tampa in the late.
<v Speaker 3>Seventies exactly it LOOKS i, mean he looks like somebody
<v Speaker 3>who is always planning an escape. Route oh, indeed we're
<v Speaker 3>always planning a residential. Community because he was also a property.
<v Speaker 3>Developer according to, records ran for local office not only In,
<v Speaker 3>florida but in other states as. Well and just for some,
<v Speaker 3>Reason i'm always on the. MOON i BELIEVE i know
<v Speaker 3>what's best for the. People so we go To hogan's first,
<v Speaker 3>PEOPLE i don't want to go any further down that.
<v Speaker 3>Road by what you mean by that, Whitey, Whitey, whitey
<v Speaker 3>that should be cause for concern right. THERE i totally
<v Speaker 3>agree anybody with the Nicknamed whitey's there's a problem. There
<v Speaker 3>hogan's first. BOOK i Told Addie, GRAHAM i don't want
<v Speaker 3>to wrestle, anymore AND i sat down in my hotel
<v Speaker 3>room where he, lives and tried to figure out WHAT
<v Speaker 3>i was gonna do with the rest of my. Life
<v Speaker 3>terry ain't gonna live in my house, anymore no, way not,
<v Speaker 3>all no Fucking fakes'm is gonna live in my goddamn
<v Speaker 3>house working on that fake. Shit. Huh, huh you live
<v Speaker 3>in a fake home a, hotel, Hey. Ruth so that
<v Speaker 3>means you're going to turn down whatever Money terry makes
<v Speaker 3>for the. Business i'm just gonna give it To. Kenny
<v Speaker 3>we're still going to live in the same. House, now
<v Speaker 3>we'll have many assets outside of the, house but we'll
<v Speaker 3>live in the same. House we'll just put additions on
<v Speaker 3>and keep on. Building we'll bother the lot next door
<v Speaker 3>and we'll just build onto that one as. Well they,
<v Speaker 3>buy they buy the whole street worth of homes and
<v Speaker 3>connect them all exactly with in law. Units here they,
<v Speaker 3>come poor damfift have fifty kitchens south Of grandy brother
<v Speaker 3>Or gandy? Whatever? What what candy, Brother candy candy? Man
<v Speaker 3>what would the boys are? Getting are the boys getting their?
<v Speaker 3>Gandy what the fuck boys getting their? Grandy? What granby roll?
<v Speaker 3>Brother what? Role what did you? Sushi what did you?
<v Speaker 3>Wait it gets out of hand, Quick. Okay so he's
<v Speaker 3>sitting in his. Hotel what AM i gonna, Do, Eddie
<v Speaker 3>i'm not going to wrestle, anymore and saying my? Hotel
<v Speaker 3>what AM i doing? Myself that's WHEN i remember a
<v Speaker 3>guy Named Whitey. Bridges whitey was a big blondhaired, bodybuilder
<v Speaker 3>about forty years, old and he owned a bar called
<v Speaker 3>The Anchor club And Coco. Beef he kind of looks
<v Speaker 3>a little bit Like. Brutus yeah he, does he really. Does,
<v Speaker 3>actually not That i'm think. About he looks Like. Brutus, now,
<v Speaker 3>yes you, know well that's a little, Unkind BUT i get.
<v Speaker 3>YOU i played there several. Times which one The brutus
<v Speaker 3>are to this? Guy at this? GUY i mean. Respectfully you,
<v Speaker 3>know this, guy as far AS i, know didn't have
<v Speaker 3>his face completely turned into spaghetti by a paras sailing.
<v Speaker 3>ACCIDENT i, know but it still looks like he did.
<v Speaker 3>It played there several times with raw old bands And
<v Speaker 3>whitey AND i had become pretty good. Friends rode. Time
<v Speaker 3>one time he, Said, terry if you ever need a,
<v Speaker 3>job give me a. Call, well what do you Mean
<v Speaker 3>i'm about doing the? Job what what phrase from your?
<v Speaker 3>Passage DID i ask you to set? Aside and not?
<v Speaker 3>Forget you asked me to set? Aside i'm not sure
<v Speaker 3>WHY i called. Him one time he, Said, terry if
<v Speaker 3>you ever need a, job give me a. Call maybe
<v Speaker 3>that's why you called, Him terry read your own. Book, well,
<v Speaker 3>bro that's an old. Book the truth. Changes then how
<v Speaker 3>what exactly he cues it up like he's gonna have
<v Speaker 3>a like he's gonna have a whole circuitous story about,
<v Speaker 3>Why like you get this whole fantasm fantastical thing to,
<v Speaker 3>say and then you, say, read well the stories? Change oh,
<v Speaker 3>yeah how he goes? What he pretends he didn't hear.
<v Speaker 3>You he'll break it. Up, Brother i'm getting statics because it's,
<v Speaker 3>like you can't ask the question again once he, says
<v Speaker 3>what one opportunity to ask a? Question all? Right and
<v Speaker 3>if he doesn't answer it the right, way then fuck you.
<v Speaker 3>Lost he should have done all of his interviews in
<v Speaker 3>front of a helicopter Like trump, does so we could
<v Speaker 3>pretend not to hear certain. Questions, yes we're in the
<v Speaker 3>background the whole. Time SO i called him from my hotel.
<v Speaker 3>Room BEFORE i knew, IT i was In Coco beach
<v Speaker 3>running With Guess. Club but, wait he gets charged for,
<v Speaker 3>that didn't? HE i, know to dial out from the.
<v Speaker 3>Hotel this is, Yeah i'm what these phone. BILLS i,
<v Speaker 3>mean they gotta be racking up. Here no wonder he
<v Speaker 3>feels strapped for. Cash stop living in a. Hotel maybe
<v Speaker 3>THAT i know apologized To. RUTH i still don't know
<v Speaker 3>why he's living in a. Hotel i've read every, word
<v Speaker 3>AND i still don't quite get why he's doing. This
<v Speaker 3>SO i called him from a hotel. Room BEFORE i knew,
<v Speaker 3>IT i was At Coco beach Running Whitey's club for,
<v Speaker 3>him everything from managing the, staff to serving drinks to
<v Speaker 3>taking money at the. Door it worked out just fine
<v Speaker 3>as far AS i was. Concerned SO i don't. Know
<v Speaker 3>you tell, me ladies and gentlemen in the Laps Fan solar,
<v Speaker 3>system Why, hogan between book one and book two would
<v Speaker 3>kind of want to forget why he was drawn To
<v Speaker 3>Whitey Bridges club In Cocoa. Beach you know who's about
<v Speaker 3>to re emerge in The Terry belaya. Story somebody who
<v Speaker 3>last saw him in line at The sportatorium waiting to
<v Speaker 3>get in and see the. Taping someone who remembered the
<v Speaker 3>legend Of Terry bulay on The Little league baseball. Field
<v Speaker 3>someone who was abandoned on the beach in a rib
<v Speaker 3>As hulk and his friends told him to show up
<v Speaker 3>at nine and they were leaving at. Nine The return
<v Speaker 3>of Ed. Leslie so we're gonna summarize a little bit
<v Speaker 3>of from that point to this point in terms of
<v Speaker 3>how Ed leslie was moving Around tampa kind of off
<v Speaker 3>to the side on somewhat a parallel track As Terry.
<v Speaker 3>Bulla but they're not quite friends. Yet but Ed leslie's
<v Speaker 3>a big wrestling fan as well as illustrated by That
<v Speaker 3>sportatorium line. Story he remembers Seeing terry at the matches
<v Speaker 3>at The hastral going. Crazy he knows Of, terry And,
<v Speaker 3>terry you, know is being talkative to. Him now that
<v Speaker 3>high school's over And ed's working out and he's getting
<v Speaker 3>a little bit of a so he Might graham Daed.
<v Speaker 3>Leslie he Might Graham Dad leslie. Exactly of course he.
<v Speaker 3>Did that's how he can recognize it when he sees,
<v Speaker 3>it because he's done.
<v Speaker 4>It.
<v Speaker 3>YEAH i love how he's like this awkward like but
<v Speaker 3>of every joke Yet he's got, girlfriends he's got the coolest,
<v Speaker 3>Cars he's in a fucking rock. Band he lives in a. Hotel,
<v Speaker 3>Right well it was it Was Gary barriss who, said,
<v Speaker 3>yeah they just pointed from the stage, you you and
<v Speaker 3>you In Infinity's end to the. Girls. Right does that
<v Speaker 3>sound like someone, that uh that spent his whole life
<v Speaker 3>being eddlessly. RIDICULED i don't, know not, exactly, no BUT
<v Speaker 3>i guess all it takes is a little bit of
<v Speaker 3>pumping those, weights, brother and suddenly the. Chicks the chicks dig, it.
<v Speaker 3>Dude there's nothing more eight seventies and eighties than being
<v Speaker 3>LIKE i, was on. Steroids so the chicks couldn't get
<v Speaker 3>enough of. Me oh, yeah it still, exists but it's
<v Speaker 3>like a different cocktail of. Drugs, now, YES i mean also.
<v Speaker 3>Too you, know being a musician also. Helps. Absolutely you
<v Speaker 3>can be the fucking ugliest guy in the. World but
<v Speaker 3>if you're playing music all of a, sudden like you
<v Speaker 3>just you get to find out where their throats. End,
<v Speaker 3>exactly all, right. Exactly i'm not going to mince words.
<v Speaker 3>Here there's no time for. That so brutus all. Right
<v Speaker 3>last time he saw, ed AS i, mentioned he was
<v Speaker 3>kind of Admiring terry From, afar and since that time
<v Speaker 3>he kind of got into building himself up as. Well
<v Speaker 3>in his, book he talks about being tired of being
<v Speaker 3>the scrawny. Kid he wanted, muscles he wanted. Women so
<v Speaker 3>what gims you start to?
<v Speaker 7>Go?
<v Speaker 3>Do Hector's gym On Pratt. Street this is the same
<v Speaker 3>gym That terry was introduced to that one time his
<v Speaker 3>friend asked him for a ride to the gym and
<v Speaker 3>he found Did terry bolea that the bodybuilding community was
<v Speaker 3>much more welcoming than most. Communities that he felt like
<v Speaker 3>an outside are, in and pretty soon he found a
<v Speaker 3>home in the. Gym Ed leslie follows. Him fresh out
<v Speaker 3>of high. School leslie says he was six y one twenty,
<v Speaker 3>almost but by twenty one he was almost six y,
<v Speaker 3>four so he was growing the. Weight weightlifting stimulated a
<v Speaker 3>lot of growth for, him and at this point he'd
<v Speaker 3>run Into terry sometimes and he noticed That terry was
<v Speaker 3>kind of looking at him little bit differently because he
<v Speaker 3>could see he was training, hard starting to get a
<v Speaker 3>little Bit Terry bullay's. Respect we talked a little at the,
<v Speaker 3>gym taming a little, bit tanning a little, bit and
<v Speaker 3>then those kind, of you, know tiptoeing around. Conversations terry
<v Speaker 3>let it slip that he's still in a wrestling and
<v Speaker 3>even mentioned At Gordon Dead leslie that if things didn't
<v Speaker 3>go well with the music, career maybe he could wrestle
<v Speaker 3>for a. Living so that's kind of where Ed leslie comes. In, wow,
<v Speaker 3>OKAY i suppose When rucas was kind of showing signs
<v Speaker 3>of not taking, off And hulk's mind is drifting away
<v Speaker 3>from music as his, future that would be. Awesome Ed leslie,
<v Speaker 3>said some of the other guys at the gym gave
<v Speaker 3>me some pointers and, supplement, advice. SUPPLEMENT i wonder what
<v Speaker 3>that may have. Involved, Hmmm i'm sure to involved things
<v Speaker 3>that were highly legal To Posis riggs and juice before
<v Speaker 3>nineteen eighty. Eight rigs and that that was the name
<v Speaker 3>of the smoothie bar at the front. Deck IF i
<v Speaker 3>ever opened a smoothie bar in a, GYM i would
<v Speaker 3>call It riggs And. Juice if k gets to the
<v Speaker 3>point where he's benching four point fifty according to his,
<v Speaker 3>book almost double his own, weight and one, day who
<v Speaker 3>does he run into? It hector's gym, Boss Mike, graham of,
<v Speaker 3>course oh, boy And brutus remembers Asking Mike, graham do
<v Speaker 3>you know a guy Named terry buleya trying to make small?
<v Speaker 3>Talk wasn't in your? Class it goes to this gym.
<v Speaker 3>Too mike, responds, YEAH i didn't really hang out with,
<v Speaker 3>him though he was in my seventh group period gym
<v Speaker 3>class along with all the high school football. Players terry was,
<v Speaker 3>good but he did his own, THING i, guess and
<v Speaker 3>then they kind of beat around the bush a little, bit,
<v Speaker 3>right did his Own, see they're right. There to, me
<v Speaker 3>that's exactly the relationship That hogan And Mike graham. Had
<v Speaker 3>THAT'S i knew who he, was BUT i, didn't but
<v Speaker 3>we hang on different. Crowds he did his own. Thing
<v Speaker 3>it pissed it Pissed hogan off That mike didn't think about.
<v Speaker 3>IT i you, know you know, though that they're right,
<v Speaker 3>right and you, know you you you ever have you,
<v Speaker 3>know at least know those people who who create this
<v Speaker 3>whole fucking story because of you, know it probably comes
<v Speaker 3>from some sort of jealousy or some sort of uh
<v Speaker 3>resentment that you, know you create this whole story in
<v Speaker 3>your mind that they don't like. You you, know, yeah
<v Speaker 3>all this whole. Shit and it's, like you, know this
<v Speaker 3>is beginning to sound like What hogan did With Mike.
<v Speaker 3>Graham yes and. Everybody, yeah he thinks everyone doesn't like.
<v Speaker 3>Him he thinks everyone is like basically trying to undercut. Him,
<v Speaker 3>CLEARLY i mean clearly he is still insecure about his.
<v Speaker 3>Weight but they're talking he's. Dead but, right at least
<v Speaker 3>back in the day he was insecure about being a
<v Speaker 3>little fat kid in the big. HEAD i, mean never
<v Speaker 3>end for this, GUY i, SAID i, said like like
<v Speaker 3>four episodes. Ago, now like that's Why hogan built his
<v Speaker 3>body up so it could be in proportion to his. Head,
<v Speaker 3>YEAH i believe. That but you, Know ed could tell
<v Speaker 3>right away By Mike graham's tone that he's not too
<v Speaker 3>keen on talking About terry or On terry, himself so
<v Speaker 3>he drops the. Subject As Ed leslie, writes that subject
<v Speaker 3>was not getting me over with, him it was actually
<v Speaker 3>getting the. Heat After Mike graham, left one of the
<v Speaker 3>guys the gym Named scott had Hurt us, Talking, oh
<v Speaker 3>he's just. Jealous scott, said what do you. MEAN i,
<v Speaker 3>said he just wishes he was as big As terry
<v Speaker 3>as All, Ooh scott, says he's got little big man.
<v Speaker 3>SYNDROME i believe that. Too and then this Guy scott
<v Speaker 3>says To, ED i didn't know you were in a
<v Speaker 3>WRESTLING a lot of, wrestlers do you, know they've been
<v Speaker 3>stopping by The Imperial room after the show Where ruckus is.
<v Speaker 3>Playing and so with that, suggestion this Guy scott And
<v Speaker 3>Ed leslie decided to go over to The Imperial, room,
<v Speaker 3>which as we have firmly established now on the complete
<v Speaker 3>Hul cogan is sort of ground zero For Florida Championship
<v Speaker 3>wrestling mainstays like Your Dusty rhoads And joel A duke
<v Speaker 3>and group And Bob Orton. Jr and The burst goes
<v Speaker 3>to get a to get listen to some tunes and
<v Speaker 3>get some drinks until two in the morning after the,
<v Speaker 3>matches and so here goes ed And scott get some
<v Speaker 3>of the fake Id Ed leslie recalls and he Sees
<v Speaker 3>terry up on stage pound them. Away in the bass
<v Speaker 3>he had a really neat style Ed wright's playing on
<v Speaker 3>a bass with no frets on it and shout out
<v Speaker 3>to all the guitar heads who were, like, oh, OKAY i,
<v Speaker 3>UNDERSTAND i, SAID i don't know anything about. GUITARS i
<v Speaker 3>guess it's impressive that it could play a fretless. Bass
<v Speaker 3>are not a fenderless. BASS i respect deeply THE i
<v Speaker 3>respect deeply that that's not my my my, area and,
<v Speaker 3>YES i didn't think it was a good use of
<v Speaker 3>time to make it my area for this. Journey everything
<v Speaker 3>was very slide and slap ed writs About hogan's guitar
<v Speaker 3>playing slide and. SLAP i mean that sounds like his
<v Speaker 3>japan matches and fun to. Watch during the band's break
<v Speaker 3>At leslie, RECALLS i rushed over To darry to tell
<v Speaker 3>him about the. Wrestlers, Brother now is your, CHANCE i,
<v Speaker 3>Said usually the wrestler's put on a show for, us
<v Speaker 3>but tonight they're here for. Yours you should go up
<v Speaker 3>and tell them you want to. Wrestle you're, right he.
<v Speaker 3>Said he rolled up his, sleeves walked over To bob
<v Speaker 3>rup who was hanging out drinking With Bob orton at a. Table, Hey,
<v Speaker 3>bob do you like the? Music bob, nodded but didn't say.
<v Speaker 3>MUCH i just want to let you Know i'm also
<v Speaker 3>a pig fan of you, guys AND i would love
<v Speaker 3>to be a rush on. Myself one. Day Ruben orton
<v Speaker 3>looked him up and down and. NODDED i saw them
<v Speaker 3>talk for a few. Minutes the next thing you, Know
<v Speaker 3>terry was taking down a. Number the band played another,
<v Speaker 3>set and Then terry went up to get a drink
<v Speaker 3>at the. Bar there Was Mike. Graham they both walked
<v Speaker 3>out of the bar for a, bit and Then terry
<v Speaker 3>came back in he laid. IT i rushed over to
<v Speaker 3>see what had. Happened so what? Happened? MAN i, asked
<v Speaker 3>Brother bob rup hooked me up With, mike And mike
<v Speaker 3>is gonna set.
<v Speaker 5>Me up with a?
<v Speaker 3>Hero matt. Suda mm. Hm so according to D, leslie
<v Speaker 3>he was there at that formative moment Where Mike graham
<v Speaker 3>finally Takes hogan after annoying these wrestlers all over town
<v Speaker 3>asking how he can get into the wrestling business and
<v Speaker 3>gyms and, stuff, wow takes him back into the van
<v Speaker 3>and gives him the whole. Speech, fine you want to
<v Speaker 3>be a, wrestler here's what you got to. Do bum
<v Speaker 3>boom Boom now what so can you? Using is this?
<v Speaker 3>Happens and then The briscoes see him at the other
<v Speaker 3>place in request to see him. Backstage jerry's version is
<v Speaker 3>that they they request audience With, terry he doesn't come
<v Speaker 3>up to. Them, now maybe this thing, happened Because terry
<v Speaker 3>does say The Mike graham van thing happened in his second,
<v Speaker 3>book so it's not like this is something that he doesn't.
<v Speaker 3>Claim But jerry doesn't know anything about, that it would
<v Speaker 3>seem AND i don't know what came, First which which
<v Speaker 3>interaction was First mike in the van Or jerry requesting
<v Speaker 3>a yep through that bar maid at the other place
<v Speaker 3>to meet With. TERRY i don't. KNOW i just know
<v Speaker 3>that there's two sort of origin stories in terms of
<v Speaker 3>who are the parties responsible for first hearing Out terry
<v Speaker 3>to the point that he actually started to make progress
<v Speaker 3>and was headed towards working With Hiro. Matsuda so you
<v Speaker 3>tell me which of the two holds more. Weight they
<v Speaker 3>could both be, true BUT i don't know because in
<v Speaker 3>both stories it ends up With i'm gonna hook you
<v Speaker 3>up with this, Guy Hiro, matsuda Right like in both
<v Speaker 3>version the reaction Of terry seems to, be oh my, God,
<v Speaker 3>like no one of these had to be the second
<v Speaker 3>time you heard the. Name both can't be the first
<v Speaker 3>time you heard That you're in a train with Hero Matt.
<v Speaker 3>Suda When hogan was On Chris jericho's, podcast he does
<v Speaker 3>recollect something similar about meeting With Bob, orton of, course
<v Speaker 3>the father Of Randy, orton and he talks about how some,
<v Speaker 3>nights you, know they they after, wrestling they would be
<v Speaker 3>out the wrestlers till three or four in the morning
<v Speaker 3>and they'd come to a club and all of a
<v Speaker 3>sudden we'd be playing in a club full of. Wrestlers
<v Speaker 3>and FINALLY i got enough nerve to talk to go
<v Speaker 3>up and talk To Bob orton And Bob, roup and
<v Speaker 3>all of a SUDDEN i went To Bob rup and, said, hey,
<v Speaker 3>man shirt sleeves rolled up playing in a. Band i'd
<v Speaker 3>love to be a. Wrestler and according To, terry what
<v Speaker 3>he says In jericho's podcast Is Bob rup is the
<v Speaker 3>one to, say, yeah we can hook you. Up a
<v Speaker 3>guy Named Matt. Suda he doesn't have anything, about go
<v Speaker 3>talk To, mike and Then mike takes him in the.
<v Speaker 3>Van you, Know so every time he tells the, story
<v Speaker 3>there's something something back To, brutus who remembers after his
<v Speaker 3>talk with my at the, gym he was kind of
<v Speaker 3>surprised to hear That Mike graham was going to Help
<v Speaker 3>terry out in getting into the wrestling. Business he, said
<v Speaker 3>it sounded to me like they had, heat BUT i
<v Speaker 3>figured they must have worked through. It so he was
<v Speaker 3>happy For. Terry and he remembers The matt' suita story
<v Speaker 3>a little bit. Differently he remembers it happening When Matt
<v Speaker 3>suda meets Up Hulk cogan at his tailor. Shop, Remember
<v Speaker 3>Matt suda had a clothing store that sold like athletic
<v Speaker 3>gear and, stuff and he remembers it being at the
<v Speaker 3>tailor shop right down the street from The briscoe's body,
<v Speaker 3>shop interestingly, enough and in the back there was a
<v Speaker 3>decent sized area At Leslie wrights Where Matt suda put
<v Speaker 3>out some, mats and he says that's when the leg injury.
<v Speaker 3>Happened it wasn't at The. Sportatorium it wasn't At Matt
<v Speaker 3>suit As jim As blair talks. About it was At
<v Speaker 3>Matt suit's tailor, shop according To, Ed So i'm glad
<v Speaker 3>to know what happened in three places and none at
<v Speaker 3>the same. Time he also Ed lesley also says in
<v Speaker 3>his book That hogan couldn't even drive off the, lot
<v Speaker 3>so that Contradicts briscoe's. Story wine people were waiting outside
<v Speaker 3>to Give terry a, ride perhaps even Ed. Leslie he
<v Speaker 3>says in that bar maid Named. Teresa, no at least
<v Speaker 3>ed doesn't say he was, there and he would remember
<v Speaker 3>if he was standing outside the fucking. Building And hogan
<v Speaker 3>comes out with a broken. LEG i have a feeling
<v Speaker 3>that would be in the. Book, yeah, right but, no
<v Speaker 3>he's At ed's on the story of How hogan had,
<v Speaker 3>to you, know inhumiliation call his father to have him
<v Speaker 3>picked up and tell him what. Happened Ed leslie, writes
<v Speaker 3>along with the other guys in the, gym we decided
<v Speaker 3>to put him to push him to train better to
<v Speaker 3>heal his, wounds that is to Say. Hogan so you,
<v Speaker 3>know it's important to remember that When hulk kind of
<v Speaker 3>leaves a wounded animal from the training, sessions he returns
<v Speaker 3>to a, community a brotherhood that Includes bruce the, Barber.
<v Speaker 3>Beefcake that's so. Fascinating he's receiving The hulkster by this
<v Speaker 3>point because they're both you, know now acquainted due To hector's. Gym,
<v Speaker 3>so along with the other guys in the, gym we
<v Speaker 3>decided to push him to train to better heal his.
<v Speaker 3>Wounds that lasted for the next twelve to thirteen. Weeks
<v Speaker 3>we all gave some positive talk to him and convinced
<v Speaker 3>him to keep training hard to return To. Matsuda he
<v Speaker 3>agreed that he was going to finish what he, started
<v Speaker 3>just like the other. GUYS i wanted to Fight matt
<v Speaker 3>suitor for what he. Did we all did someone hurt
<v Speaker 3>one of our. Pack the brothership of the gym was pretty.
<v Speaker 3>Strong we Pushed terry very hard and it. Worked that's
<v Speaker 3>something that wasn't in my mental model of Where terry
<v Speaker 3>was at the, time someone who had like a brotherhood
<v Speaker 3>of Jim rats behind. Him, yeah he just seems so
<v Speaker 3>alone at this, point. Isolated, well you always think about the, loaner,
<v Speaker 3>right you think about him always talking about you know
<v Speaker 3>not you, know no one likes him and. Stuff, absolutely
<v Speaker 3>but of course he's got his Little Jim rat. Buddies
<v Speaker 3>and so he remembers that Pushing terry back into the
<v Speaker 3>business as being his first connection to the wrestling. World
<v Speaker 3>At leslie, WRITES i never thought much about being a wrestler,
<v Speaker 3>myself but seeing someone else almost making the breakthrough made
<v Speaker 3>me THINK i had a. Chance and so as time goes,
<v Speaker 3>mmm he notices That terry is just still paying, dues paying,
<v Speaker 3>dues paying. Dues as Ed leslie, Writes Mike graham was
<v Speaker 3>not going to allow another local boy to outshine him
<v Speaker 3>on his turf. Woo he was going to be the
<v Speaker 3>local hometown. Boy nobody else the rides to his shows were.
<v Speaker 3>Murder they only paid him around twenty five dollars for
<v Speaker 3>a five hundred mile trip seven eight hours To. Tallahassee
<v Speaker 3>guys Like Rocky johnson And Gordon nelson would all pile
<v Speaker 3>Into hogan's, car drinking and partying the entire, way Apparely
<v Speaker 3>Harley races among, them as well his girlfriend's brand New Fort.
<v Speaker 3>Trio this is his girlfriend's, car which he has talked.
<v Speaker 3>About hogan's girlfriend's car was getting. Trashed he didn't know
<v Speaker 3>anything about charging guys for, transportation so the boys took
<v Speaker 3>advantage of. Him they would hit him in the head
<v Speaker 3>and screw with him while he was. Driving if he
<v Speaker 3>would stop off at the side of the road to,
<v Speaker 3>gurinate they would sneak up behind him and piss on
<v Speaker 3>the back of his. Legs Jesus Christ eddy said that
<v Speaker 3>he was going to use him at the armory, locally
<v Speaker 3>but it never. Happened terry couldn't make a living wrestling
<v Speaker 3>two days a week for peanuts and not even getting
<v Speaker 3>enough to pay for the. Gas he had to rethink.
<v Speaker 3>Things after about two, months he came to me and
<v Speaker 3>told me that he quit. Again Here's beefcake in AN
<v Speaker 3>rf video shoot interview recalling this pivotal moment in.
<v Speaker 10>History he, basically, yeah quit and was trying to working
<v Speaker 10>on the docks and. Stuff and that's when a friend
<v Speaker 10>of his from his rock and roll days called him and,
<v Speaker 10>say you, know come To Cocoa. Beach you open up
<v Speaker 10>a gym and and, uh you, know training and try
<v Speaker 10>to get some. Connections Bob roup and a couple other
<v Speaker 10>guys that, expressed you, know that they might be able
<v Speaker 10>to help them and. Stuff so he approached several of
<v Speaker 10>his other friends, about you, know going to breaking the
<v Speaker 10>business with, him and everybody else kind of backed, off
<v Speaker 10>and everybody was afraid to walk away from their day
<v Speaker 10>job and their. Security and you, know nobody was. Wrestling you,
<v Speaker 10>know it's too, crazy it's too big a, chance you.
<v Speaker 10>Know AND i was looking for something, different you. Know
<v Speaker 10>And i've been hanging With terry for a while and
<v Speaker 10>it's had a real good feeling about JUST i knew
<v Speaker 10>that something was going to. Happen you, know we had
<v Speaker 10>a good chemistry together since we've been hanging out and training.
<v Speaker 10>Together and so you, know when they when the call
<v Speaker 10>came a you, know you want to, Go i'd have
<v Speaker 10>my car, packed my, BAGS i was ready to. GO
<v Speaker 10>i had quit my job AND i was you, KNOW
<v Speaker 10>i was already b line in it For Cocoa. Beach
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<v Speaker 3>Jpiso, well boss If, Ed leslie And Terry bolea are
<v Speaker 3>heading To Cocoa. Beach what do you? Say shouldn't we as?
<v Speaker 3>WELL i think we must go To Coco? Beach what? Brother?
<v Speaker 10>What?
<v Speaker 3>So we set our, sites we point our. Sales does
<v Speaker 3>he come Into? Uh the big question is does he? Do?
<v Speaker 4>They? Do?
<v Speaker 3>They? Do they meet up With Rick. Martel let's head
<v Speaker 3>over there to find. Out during the nineteen sixties into
<v Speaker 3>the nineteen, seventies the space program in the Nearby Kennedy
<v Speaker 3>Space center drew people an. Investment Coco beach's population jumped
<v Speaker 3>dramatically from about three, thousand four and seventy five to
<v Speaker 3>nine nine and fifty two during that. Era built in
<v Speaker 3>nineteen sixty two by local Businessman Richard, stockland The Westgate
<v Speaker 3>Coco beach peer as a historical. Landmark on The Space,
<v Speaker 3>coast stretching eight hundred feet over The Atlantic. Ocean the,
<v Speaker 3>pier originally known As Canaveral, pier was constructed with more
<v Speaker 3>than two point five miles of boardwalk planks and two
<v Speaker 3>hundred and seventy, pilots each forty feet in. Length since the,
<v Speaker 3>beginning the pier has been a favorite of both locals and.
<v Speaker 3>Tourists has undergone many changes over the. Years longtime locals
<v Speaker 3>remnists of the days in the early sixties when visitors
<v Speaker 3>could drive their cars right up onto the pier. Itself
<v Speaker 3>the pier also offered a grand stand seat For, Mercury
<v Speaker 3>apollo And Space shuttle. Launches WOW a Nearby Cape, canaveral
<v Speaker 3>which was known As Cape kennedy and honor Of President JOHN. F.
<v Speaker 3>Kennedy between nineteen sixty three and nineteen seventy, three famous
<v Speaker 3>astronauts such As alan At, sheppard the First american in,
<v Speaker 3>space reportedly visited the. Pier Cocoa beach evolved into the
<v Speaker 3>surfing capital of The East. Coast boss and the pier
<v Speaker 3>became the center of all surfing. Activity, brother and so
<v Speaker 3>this is now a, hotspot And terry's headed there and surfs, up,
<v Speaker 3>okay surfs, up and so the party scene because the
<v Speaker 3>anchor club is in need of. Help the anchor club
<v Speaker 3>is indeed of muscle, yes AND i Think TERRY buleya
<v Speaker 3>And Ed leslie Of, Tampa florida are fully prepared to provide.
<v Speaker 3>It in the, seventies the pier was also home to
<v Speaker 3>a bustling dance club Called, asylum which boasted a cosmic
<v Speaker 3>lighted dance floor and live rock. Music if you need
<v Speaker 3>to put yourself there mentally and picture. It many musical
<v Speaker 3>acts have played at the pier over the. Years Bachman, Turner,
<v Speaker 3>overdrive The Edgar Winter, group The Beach, boys A flock Of,
<v Speaker 3>seagulls and so many. More and there's an Enterprising american
<v Speaker 3>entrepreneur Named Whitey bridges trying to connect this space Coast
<v Speaker 3>Cape canaveral adjacency with serving people. Booze this is from let's,
<v Speaker 3>say in nineteen and seventy five article about The soviet
<v Speaker 3>launch which aired on live on television here in The United,
<v Speaker 3>states where a Man soviet space shot went up into outer.
<v Speaker 3>Space and this is you, know of, course the space.
<v Speaker 3>Race so every, yeah everything was. Broadcast the revolution was
<v Speaker 3>televised and, huge, huge huge fucking, time you, know like you,
<v Speaker 3>know there Was i'm i. Am i'm always fascinated with
<v Speaker 3>with that that era and this space race and stuff like.
<v Speaker 3>THAT i find it to be such a, unique a
<v Speaker 3>unique time, that you, KNOW i, MEAN i just don't
<v Speaker 3>think we'll Ever we'll never have something like that. Again
<v Speaker 3>in the spirit of cinemat what films come to? MIND i,
<v Speaker 3>mean the first THING i always think of is the
<v Speaker 3>mini Series from The earth to The. MOON i love
<v Speaker 3>that mini series That Tom hanks. Produced it tracks the
<v Speaker 3>Whole apollo program and it's a really great mini. Series and,
<v Speaker 3>UH i don't know If apollo thirteen is coming. SOON
<v Speaker 3>i always think of. That, WELL i was gonna, SAY i,
<v Speaker 3>mean If Cape canaveral leads a connection this is this
<v Speaker 3>is pretty good for. ME i mean, here you, know may,
<v Speaker 3>not that's not. Bad they get to the right. Stuff,
<v Speaker 3>BROTHER i know that's a that's a, concern the rough.
<v Speaker 3>Stuff but isn't it nice to be able to Place
<v Speaker 3>hultkogan in that? Time, yes, yes he's, there he's in the.
<v Speaker 3>Mix he's not just like alive during that time. Period
<v Speaker 3>he's In Cape, Canaveral he's on the space. Coast it's
<v Speaker 3>kind of, wild like it's just it's wild to think
<v Speaker 3>that THAT'S i don't know that he's that he's, there,
<v Speaker 3>yes helping with the helping to suck in those tourist
<v Speaker 3>dollars that apparently was supposed to. Create, Now Wady bridges
<v Speaker 3>wasn't too happy with the turnout to watch The soviets
<v Speaker 3>go to outer space on this live television. Broadcast here
<v Speaker 3>he is in afore mentioned nineteen seventy five. Article days
<v Speaker 3>before the, launch The Florida Highway patrol was predicting a
<v Speaker 3>crowd of up to one million persons to view this
<v Speaker 3>last act in the long run Of. Apollo but on
<v Speaker 3>the eve of the, Launch Whitey bridges was serving beer
<v Speaker 3>and mason jars labeled rocket fuel at his anchor club
<v Speaker 3>on the beach and fretting if they're gonna come the
<v Speaker 3>Dann well better, hurry he. Said most of the folks
<v Speaker 3>here are local, people so he's not moving. Product but
<v Speaker 3>there he is in an article about all the, hoopla you,
<v Speaker 3>know so he knows how to get into the paper
<v Speaker 3>for better or for. Worse, Sure so we're going to
<v Speaker 3>turn back To brutus's, book And i'd like for you
<v Speaker 3>to take us through, this this, passage this is, Us
<v Speaker 3>this Is brutus getting us acquainted with his. Recollections and because,
<v Speaker 3>this you, know this is a bigger part Of brutus's
<v Speaker 3>story than it Is, hulks because this is how he
<v Speaker 3>forms the bond With. Hulk and you, know in a
<v Speaker 3>lot of, ways as much as Ed leslie did in
<v Speaker 3>the wrestling, business he's like defined by his for, friendship
<v Speaker 3>his lifelong friendship With Hulk. Hogan you, know that's like
<v Speaker 3>the through line of his whole. Career of, Course, god
<v Speaker 3>you know that's A i, mean that's exactly. It, nobody,
<v Speaker 3>nobody fucking uh you know that's you think of Ed
<v Speaker 3>it's funny you think Of Hulk. Hogan you don't think
<v Speaker 3>of Ed. Leslie you think of Ed. Leslie you think
<v Speaker 3>Of hulkochin exactly WHAT i mean, now when when they
<v Speaker 3>did friends at the End WrestleMania nine and, everything and
<v Speaker 3>you're watching as an impressionable young story Young. Hilslemania, yes
<v Speaker 3>how far did you perceive their friendship? Went how far?
<v Speaker 3>BACK i mean they didn't really tell this. STORY i
<v Speaker 3>don't think that it goes back to the. Seventies, NO
<v Speaker 3>i never, THOUGHT i don't know actually how, far because
<v Speaker 3>there was a part of me that's, wondering how does this? Work,
<v Speaker 3>like you, know Because i'd Seen i'd seen early, WrestleManias
<v Speaker 3>i'd seen Ed leslie as a, heel And i'm, like,
<v Speaker 3>wait were they? Friends then it's a good. POINT i,
<v Speaker 3>MEAN i know that they were, friends and you, KNOW
<v Speaker 3>i knew the story from nineteen ninety where they. WERE i, mean,
<v Speaker 3>also you KNOW i didn't Know mims Ed. LESLIE i
<v Speaker 3>don't THINK i Knew miss Edd leslie UNTIL i met, you, Honestly,
<v Speaker 3>now why was? Cheefcake? Right BUT i knew about THE
<v Speaker 3>i knew that there WAS i. HAD i had deduced
<v Speaker 3>on my own that there was SOME i, Mean i'll
<v Speaker 3>tell you WHAT i. Knew at least it had been
<v Speaker 3>since nineteen eighty, nine since they teamed, up, yeah Against
<v Speaker 3>zeus And, savage AND i knew. That you, KNOW i
<v Speaker 3>deduced when the when the accident happened in nineteen, Ninety
<v Speaker 3>well that was the big lynch pin of The WrestleMania nine. Thing, yeah, right,
<v Speaker 3>Exactly but they Acted they never said, When they never
<v Speaker 3>said when it. Was BUT i just figured it out
<v Speaker 3>because well he stopped wrestling there all of a, sudden
<v Speaker 3>right and then he then he was on just ON.
<v Speaker 3>Tv but it does beg the question like that brought
<v Speaker 3>them closer, together but like why were they hanging out
<v Speaker 3>in the first place? Together? Right? Right they were? Friends
<v Speaker 3>like this was NOT i, mean, yes THE a Nine,
<v Speaker 3>summers they gave you a, hint but they didn't tell
<v Speaker 3>this story of them being life long friends because they
<v Speaker 3>didn't want you to Know Hulk cogan Was terry boleya From.
<v Speaker 3>Tampa but They but it's just weird because they certainly,
<v Speaker 3>did because they certainly allowed him to say friend till the,
<v Speaker 3>end to the, end you, know which makes you REALLY
<v Speaker 3>i don't, know that makes you think of a friend
<v Speaker 3>who's been with you for a long. Time, well we
<v Speaker 3>keep going at the, Beginning we keep going back, to you,
<v Speaker 3>Know Steve planamena saying to that newspaper reporter in nineteen eighty, nine,
<v Speaker 3>like if you're going to write about his life Before Hulk,
<v Speaker 3>hogan if you're gonna write about you, know him growing
<v Speaker 3>up In, Florida we're not gonna. Participate we're not gonna
<v Speaker 3>help you with this. Article, sorry we just can't do.
<v Speaker 3>That because he has to be From Venice, Beach, California right,
<v Speaker 3>exactly you, know be From. Florida it's so funny to
<v Speaker 3>Hear terry talk, about like in all these interviews about
<v Speaker 3>how like he go To Lake alabama or he go to,
<v Speaker 3>like you, know Chieflynd. Florida they couldn't believe someone was From.
<v Speaker 3>California it blew their mind as if like he was
<v Speaker 3>a god walking in because he was From. California and it's, Like,
<v Speaker 3>terry you're. Projecting, okay that's you're Watching, arnold and that's
<v Speaker 3>you Watching venice At, beach and that's you thinking someone
<v Speaker 3>is worth a shit because they're From, california like like
<v Speaker 3>your first wife for. Instance, yeah, exactly. Exactly all, right
<v Speaker 3>let's see What edward has to say. Here Cocoa beach
<v Speaker 3>the owner of one of The oh, no that's just
<v Speaker 3>The Coco Beach chapter, Three Coco beach. Erect Cocoa beach
<v Speaker 3>is not the owner of one of the. Clubs as
<v Speaker 3>far AS i, know it's not the owner of one
<v Speaker 3>of the. Clubs Whitey, BRIDGES i keep wanting to, Say,
<v Speaker 3>BULGER i know it's. ON i know be was an
<v Speaker 3>older guy from the gym that we all. Liked he
<v Speaker 3>had long blonde hair and big arms and was fun
<v Speaker 3>to WORK i work out. With he had been talking
<v Speaker 3>about revamping his bar with a hard rock, theme and
<v Speaker 3>he wanted one of his boys at the gym to
<v Speaker 3>take up the. Job terry was the obvious. Choice why
<v Speaker 3>Would terry be the obvious choice to ten? Bars right? Right? Brother?
<v Speaker 3>Exactly you? Know ten barbroom. Attention maybe it's because he's
<v Speaker 3>good at tending. Handlebars, yeah he had played Many he
<v Speaker 3>played in many bands on The tampa. Scene but he
<v Speaker 3>was hesitant at first because White he's bar was about
<v Speaker 3>two hours away over A cocoa. Beach no. Wonder he
<v Speaker 3>bitched about driving To. Tallahassee that's too, Far Jesus, christ,
<v Speaker 3>listen thirty minutes is too long of a drive for
<v Speaker 3>this fucking. CLOWN i, Mean God, almighty you. Know that
<v Speaker 3>meant he would have to Leave tampa behind a number
<v Speaker 3>of his friends and the gym was pretty much his.
<v Speaker 3>Life he was, torn, however because he needed the. Money
<v Speaker 3>why he, said if he took the, job he wouldn't
<v Speaker 3>have to worry about leaving the gym. Behind they would
<v Speaker 3>build their own gym right On Cocoa beach to running
<v Speaker 3>conjunction with the. Bar he also Promised terry that if
<v Speaker 3>he ever wanted to get back into, wrestling he could
<v Speaker 3>do everything he could to. Help terry asked all his
<v Speaker 3>friends and weightlifting buddies to go To Coco. Beach oh my, god, like,
<v Speaker 3>brother do? You why won't you guys come with? Me?
<v Speaker 3>Brother why everyone just packed their backs right? NOW i
<v Speaker 3>won't go, together. DUDE i, mean IF i had A Cocoa,
<v Speaker 3>beach CAN i Bring tampa with me To Cocoa? Beach?
<v Speaker 3>WHITEY i, mean it's exactly what. IT i. Mean this
<v Speaker 3>this adds new light to the whole thing About Brian
<v Speaker 3>knobbs always being around the, house like having these these,
<v Speaker 3>these these, people this this, entourage always needing an. Entourage so. Funny.
<v Speaker 3>Uh he was also taking on a management role at
<v Speaker 3>The Anchor club and could hire his friends to. Help
<v Speaker 3>make no mistake about, It The anchor was no sailor's
<v Speaker 3>club like what you would see in the Movie. Philadelphia,
<v Speaker 3>OKAY i don't know that sounds Like Kenny casanova there
<v Speaker 3>hadn't found the turns of. Phrase it was, anything but
<v Speaker 3>it was anything but a gay bar like why, well, yeah,
<v Speaker 3>okay you if you can't forget that this book came
<v Speaker 3>out right After linda in her like post divorce like,
<v Speaker 3>mania was saying that they had a gay. Affair, remember oh,
<v Speaker 3>Right oh my, god this brute is gonna spill the
<v Speaker 3>tea on them fucking each other in the. Book it's,
<v Speaker 3>like it's just, like so fucking's still a weird thing
<v Speaker 3>to fucking say, THOUGH i, Mean steppenwolf was even booked
<v Speaker 3>to play there at. Schools it may have sounded to
<v Speaker 3>him none Of terry's close friends wanted to give up
<v Speaker 3>their jobs and run. AWAY i Was terry's absolute last.
<v Speaker 3>Resort so Finally terry called me the kid he kind
<v Speaker 3>of picked, on and asked me to go To coco
<v Speaker 3>to help set up the bar and run the gym with.
<v Speaker 3>Him we got to talk and AND i put the idea
<v Speaker 3>of wrestling back into his. Head it's, LIKE i don't
<v Speaker 3>want him to go to Fucking. TAMPA i, MEAN i
<v Speaker 3>want to go To Cocoa. Beach i'm fine. Here how
<v Speaker 3>about you wrestle? Again. Uh we planned to make the
<v Speaker 3>club do well so it could run itself and then
<v Speaker 3>just shift our efforts over to the. GYM i do, love,
<v Speaker 3>love love love That terry would have taken anyone with
<v Speaker 3>him over Ed, leslie but it was the only one
<v Speaker 3>willing to go the last. Resort, unbelievable like friend to the, End,
<v Speaker 3>yeah because he went to Fucking Cocoa beach with, him
<v Speaker 3>not from the beginning to the, end right right, exactly
<v Speaker 3>not for, yeah not for him from the, beginning but
<v Speaker 3>friend to the, end except not really? Anyway right didn't?
<v Speaker 3>They did they? Ever make? Up they did? Not then
<v Speaker 3>you were made?
<v Speaker 4>Up?
<v Speaker 3>Wow look at. That even though he fucking stood right by,
<v Speaker 3>him fucking transfused blood into his, body he was there
<v Speaker 3>for him when the accident. Happened that is. True i'm,
<v Speaker 3>Sure i'm. SURE i don't know how much blood he gave, him.
<v Speaker 3>Though so there at our gym we could train huge
<v Speaker 3>and hopefully look for a return to the. Ring, so
<v Speaker 3>With terry agreen to a new focus back at, WRESTLING
<v Speaker 3>i dropped everything to go off with him and try
<v Speaker 3>to become. Famous the anchor was a hard rock club
<v Speaker 3>right out of The brunt on The beach off of
<v Speaker 3>five and. Twenty oh, SHIT i know what that. Is
<v Speaker 3>Fucking we took over and started the first steps to
<v Speaker 3>make it into the place to Be once the bar
<v Speaker 3>was reset and restocked and, Reopened terry became the bartender
<v Speaker 3>and worked the door at. Night my role was. IMPORTANT
<v Speaker 3>i stocked the place with the best CUSTOMERS i could
<v Speaker 3>and made sure to weed out the riff. Raff being
<v Speaker 3>the guy at the door was good for me in
<v Speaker 3>my game because it MEANT i had the absolute first
<v Speaker 3>shot at the hottest girl in the club as she
<v Speaker 3>was walking through the, door flirted with the, girls and
<v Speaker 3>talked locker room filth with the. Boys, yes it helped
<v Speaker 3>make me into the social BUTTERFLY i am. Today we
<v Speaker 3>worked long hours and long and crazy hours for many,
<v Speaker 3>weeks but it paid off. Eventually it was the in
<v Speaker 3>place to be some confirmation from some you Know facebook
<v Speaker 3>groups that remember The Anchor club people saying, yes, Indeed
<v Speaker 3>terry never worked the, door but he tended the front
<v Speaker 3>bar very close to the. Door so that's. Why Because
<v Speaker 3>hogan always pushed back and they day that he was
<v Speaker 3>ever a, bouncer he for some reason didn't like that,
<v Speaker 3>connotation probably, because as we're about to find, out bouncers
<v Speaker 3>at The Anchor club did not have the best reputation
<v Speaker 3>at least as far as the press was, concerned and as,
<v Speaker 3>always there's a reason That terry is trying to throw
<v Speaker 3>scents off the trail early and often in his retelling of.
<v Speaker 3>Things so we turned now To hogan's first book to
<v Speaker 3>figure out how quickly it went From we're living the
<v Speaker 3>high life to maybe not so much because the bar
<v Speaker 3>is enough or N, Hogan the idea for a gym
<v Speaker 3>With whitey doesn't come until after he comes To Anchor,
<v Speaker 3>club not as part of the initial, launch he says
<v Speaker 3>in his first. Book at. Least then after a, WHILE
<v Speaker 3>i said to why do you, listen, brother we're both
<v Speaker 3>in a working. Out we should open a gym. Together
<v Speaker 3>so fucking. Confusing i'm just picturing like like a big
<v Speaker 3>storyboard and like a writer's, room where, like, yep every
<v Speaker 3>little point on the timeline has six versions of every. Story,
<v Speaker 3>uh you know for sure it. Does and the and
<v Speaker 3>the absolutely subsequent versions exist just to counteract the previous.
<v Speaker 3>Version you. Know it's, like, oh they would have come
<v Speaker 3>up with another one if they didn't want. To, exhausting
<v Speaker 3>it's exhausting to keep up with. Him we're both in
<v Speaker 3>the working. Out we show me a gym. Together he
<v Speaker 3>thought it was a good, idea and we opened a
<v Speaker 3>place Called whitey's And Terry's Olympic. Gym get the fuck
<v Speaker 3>out of town In Cape, Canaveral whitey's And Terry's Olympic.
<v Speaker 3>Gym anyone who went? There it's That. TERRY i, mean
<v Speaker 3>do you is? This did this place legitimately? Exist let's
<v Speaker 3>take a look at your window. There oh my, gosh
<v Speaker 3>what do we? Have shout outs To matt for Fining,
<v Speaker 3>wow look at that fucking. Thing, WOW i see kind
<v Speaker 3>of a pink shirt with basically a drawing Of Arnold schwartzenegger. Opposing,
<v Speaker 3>yeah totally Is Arnold schwarzenegger like in the seventies and
<v Speaker 3>says White e's And terry's trained With florida's Finest olympic
<v Speaker 3>gym one to Eighteen Jackson, Ave Cape, Canaveral. Florida that is.
<v Speaker 3>Insane CAN i suggest that is exact design coming to
<v Speaker 3>a pro wrestling tea store near? You, Yeah i'm gonna
<v Speaker 3>find a way That i'm going to get that one.
<v Speaker 3>Going is that that's really og in the? Game. Yep
<v Speaker 3>so that's what's christ. Existing the fact that you could
<v Speaker 3>go to a gym owned by Hul cogan before he
<v Speaker 3>Was Hul cogin In Cape, Canaveral, florida Called Tarryan Whitey's Olympic. Gym,
<v Speaker 3>yeah endlessly fascinating to. Me you, know pumping iron pretty, well,
<v Speaker 3>Right oh, yeah, yeah, y this qualifies it for cinema
<v Speaker 3>as far As i'm. Concerned, Well schwarzenegger, alone he's A
<v Speaker 3>hall Of famer, absolutely name if he wasn't even if
<v Speaker 3>he didn't do, angles he was so. Influential, yeah, oh for.
<v Speaker 3>Sure to that first generation of wrestlers to think of
<v Speaker 3>bodybuilding as like a, shortcut you, know or or somehow
<v Speaker 3>like a signifier that you were. Tough you. Know the
<v Speaker 3>culture hadn't gotten over the idea that when you were that,
<v Speaker 3>big you're actually kind of not tough because you're out
<v Speaker 3>of gas in forty five. Seconds that showed that you were.
<v Speaker 3>Badass and that's part of the. Reason according to people
<v Speaker 3>that kind of were around the scene at the time
<v Speaker 3>that have commented On facebook and other, forums part of
<v Speaker 3>the reason it made sense For Whitey bridges to open
<v Speaker 3>a gym was to give his muscle at the bar
<v Speaker 3>a place to, train so they could look intimidating and
<v Speaker 3>so they could throw people out of the bar if
<v Speaker 3>they were misbehaving or whatever the case may, be or.
<v Speaker 3>Not you, KNOW i, think as we're about to, establish
<v Speaker 3>there's plenty of room for misbehaving at The Anchor. Club
<v Speaker 3>it's just a question of whether or not it comes
<v Speaker 3>from the quote unquote riff, raff as Ed leslie described.
<v Speaker 3>Them so that's that's the, gym it, opens it, exists
<v Speaker 3>and uh and so he's he's on his. Way do
<v Speaker 3>we know how long it? Lasted it lasted about a?
<v Speaker 3>Year oh. Wow, yeah we're gonna shoot ourselves straight ahead
<v Speaker 3>to the end of the story. Here but, yeah that
<v Speaker 3>that kind of closes down at the same time The
<v Speaker 3>Anchor club closes. Down, uh it closes down for a
<v Speaker 3>slightly different reasons and a slightly different, timeline as we're
<v Speaker 3>about to. Establish so let's run a gym. Together so
<v Speaker 3>NOW i was running the club and the gym at
<v Speaker 3>the same, time AND i had my hands. Full it
<v Speaker 3>doesn't sound like you were running, Anything. Terry it sounds
<v Speaker 3>like you're art. Tending but right, EXACTLY i don't UNDERSTANDING
<v Speaker 3>i NEED i need to understand. This This, uh this
<v Speaker 3>math better here you want to get more. Confused, yes
<v Speaker 3>remember the version of the story Where polk goes back
<v Speaker 3>to his friends And, Hector's jim And tampa and asks
<v Speaker 3>everyone to, come And ed's the only one who does
<v Speaker 3>and they take off together For Coca. Beach square that with,
<v Speaker 3>This so NOW i was running the club in the
<v Speaker 3>gym at the same, time and add my hands, FULL
<v Speaker 3>i needed a little. Help AND i had a friend
<v Speaker 3>from back In tampa Named Ed leslie whose sister graduated
<v Speaker 3>From Robinson High school with. Me so he his story,
<v Speaker 3>is he goes To Cocoa, beach he sets up the,
<v Speaker 3>gym the gym that Ed leslie goes into great detail
<v Speaker 3>in his book about basically doing all the hard work
<v Speaker 3>setting up and. Right but, no For hogan's, version it's already,
<v Speaker 3>there and he invites ed into the. Universe, LISTEN i,
<v Speaker 3>mean come, on what do you. Think who do you
<v Speaker 3>think is tell the? Truth you imagine Ed leslie reading
<v Speaker 3>this being like you? Motherfucker, OH i mean, LISTEN i
<v Speaker 3>would hope the god he was furious With hogan after
<v Speaker 3>all the shit that he makes. Up ed was a
<v Speaker 3>couple of years behind us AFTER i got out of high.
<v Speaker 3>School he was always tagging along and we would try
<v Speaker 3>to ditch him because he was. Younger than we. Were My, god,
<v Speaker 3>no you. Wouldn't we'd always tell. It we'd always tell
<v Speaker 3>him we were going to the beat a ten o'clock
<v Speaker 3>in the morning and we'd leave at eight. Instead but
<v Speaker 3>EVENTUALLY i Became so that's confirmation From terry's, side because
<v Speaker 3>the first time we relay that story about d being
<v Speaker 3>set up at the beach like that was From AD's oone.
<v Speaker 3>Book but There's terry confirming that he did. That but
<v Speaker 3>EVENTUALLY i became good friends with Ed, leslie and WHEN i, said, hey,
<v Speaker 3>MAN i need somebody to help me run the bar
<v Speaker 3>in the, gym he was righting on. It the very
<v Speaker 3>next day he quit his job and threw everything he
<v Speaker 3>owned in it Was camaro and drove To Cocoa beach
<v Speaker 3>without a second. Thought we worked together On Coco beach
<v Speaker 3>for about a year and we never wanted to leave that.
<v Speaker 3>Place it was rock and roll and weightlifting and go
<v Speaker 3>to the beach and girls and partying and raising hell
<v Speaker 3>all as rock. Roll, brother what A florida existence? That as,
<v Speaker 3>huh rock and, roll, weightlifting going to the, beach girls. Partying,
<v Speaker 3>yeah divorce. RIGHT i told Ed leslie that we would
<v Speaker 3>never see another year like. That as long as we.
<v Speaker 3>Lived but in the back of my, mind, BROTHER i
<v Speaker 3>knew we should have something to fall back. On oh,
<v Speaker 3>Boy SO i Told ED i would teach him how to.
<v Speaker 3>Wrestle Oh Jesus. Christ so this, guy it didn't learn
<v Speaker 3>enough to be anything but a laughing stock to the locker.
<v Speaker 3>Room it's going to teach this guy to Wrest then
<v Speaker 3>we could go back To tampa and. Wrestle if things
<v Speaker 3>gonna work out for some, reason you had, terry we
<v Speaker 3>could go back To. Tampa, okay, yeah, right, exactly exactly
<v Speaker 3>entertained anything to get back. There we didn't have a
<v Speaker 3>ring in the, gym BUT i could still show them
<v Speaker 3>wrestling holes and how to. Move So ed AND i
<v Speaker 3>spent that whole year messing, around never thinking we would
<v Speaker 3>ever really have. That that's Why. Linda that's Why linda
<v Speaker 3>thought they had a gay. Relationship right, there he puts
<v Speaker 3>in his fucking, book messing, Around, yeah shaving each other's
<v Speaker 3>asses and rolling, around sticking needles in our asses and
<v Speaker 3>toering each. OTHER i, mean what else do you want
<v Speaker 3>to call? IT i, mean, yeah you, know brother always
<v Speaker 3>slept over each other's. Houses what do you want right fucking? Me,
<v Speaker 3>brother what was a, problem. Dude everybody else was fucking
<v Speaker 3>everybody else was fucking me in the, Business, DUDE i,
<v Speaker 3>figure what the, hell, Brother, brother might as well just
<v Speaker 3>get it for, real do them out and get it for.
<v Speaker 3>Real i'd look for that prostate. Power. Dude he Had python,
<v Speaker 3>power and he had prostate. Power depends how far back
<v Speaker 3>you want to, go literally and. Figuratively, brother we didn't
<v Speaker 3>have a. Ring, okay, yes So ed AND i never
<v Speaker 3>really thought though we would ever have to Leave Cocoa. Beach, so,
<v Speaker 3>yes SO i doesn't want to Leave Cocoa. BEACH i don't. Understand,
<v Speaker 3>no he's doing a backup. Plan but at the same,
<v Speaker 3>time they don't want the party to ever. END i,
<v Speaker 3>see but you, KNOW i don't, Know and there's, something
<v Speaker 3>some sneaking SUSPICION i have that part of the reason
<v Speaker 3>it was so fun over there is because you could
<v Speaker 3>get away with a. Lot, yes setting like, this you
<v Speaker 3>could you could find yourself involved in all kinds of
<v Speaker 3>illicit economies, potentially just just a. Thought, yes and so
<v Speaker 3>we opened the gym because, apparently, uh you, know this
<v Speaker 3>is the kind of place where you expected trouble with the. Patrons,
<v Speaker 3>yeah you knew that was a necessary. Precondition you, did? Huh, okay.
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely here's a post On facebook from someone Named, tom
<v Speaker 3>who apparently used to work in a similar capacity as
<v Speaker 3>Had leslie at The Anchor club all those years. AGO
<v Speaker 3>i remember all of us At Anchor, club he, writes
<v Speaker 3>With Whitey, bridges who actually rented a gym, Rented, wow
<v Speaker 3>rented a little bit, There, okay rented a gym for
<v Speaker 3>us to work out at so we could keep the
<v Speaker 3>bad guys. Out hulk was. IRREGULAR i remember it was
<v Speaker 3>near a bar in Car, Washing Cocoa. Beach. Wow time
<v Speaker 3>flies as we all went our separate ways and for
<v Speaker 3>the most and for most of us attained our dreams and.
<v Speaker 3>Goals someone, Responds, Whitey whitey And Terry's olympic gym On
<v Speaker 3>Jackson street And Cape. Canaveral it's where all of us
<v Speaker 3>young muscleheads went to work. Out on the back of
<v Speaker 3>THE t shirts it said bodybuilders have more meat and
<v Speaker 3>stay hard. Longer, okay well that's gonna be on the
<v Speaker 3>shirt for. Sure that's WHEN i ended the last episode with.
<v Speaker 3>That that's that's where that's where it came. From. Wow
<v Speaker 3>the back Of terry bulay On Whitey bridges short lived
<v Speaker 3>gym enterprise in house t shirt slogan someone else posting
<v Speaker 3>On facebook in the late. Seventies as a, teen a
<v Speaker 3>friend AND i finished our beer in the Booby. Trap feeling,
<v Speaker 3>bold we decided to take on The Anchor. Club as
<v Speaker 3>we approached the, entrance both doors flew open from the
<v Speaker 3>inside And terry And don held a man in between.
<v Speaker 3>Them they carried him out and threw him straight up
<v Speaker 3>into the. Air the man landed in the, street face,
<v Speaker 3>first on his hands and, knees right in front of.
<v Speaker 3>Us we suddenly became, meek went inside and. Behaved i'll
<v Speaker 3>say you're better back flock back To beefcake's. Book right
<v Speaker 3>next door to the Bar white he rented a little
<v Speaker 3>building that used to be an insurance. Agency during the,
<v Speaker 3>DAY i transformed myself into a. Contractor to make sure
<v Speaker 3>that the gym would be everything we wanted it to.
<v Speaker 3>Be we gutted it. Out now it's worth noting That
<v Speaker 3>ed actually came from like a not a landscape architect,
<v Speaker 3>background but he did work for Like he did like
<v Speaker 3>landscaping work for like rich properties before he got, involved
<v Speaker 3>so he actually he knew his way around a. Project
<v Speaker 3>a building. Project we gutted it out completely and started
<v Speaker 3>to build our IDEAL gm brick by, brick piece by.
<v Speaker 3>Piece it turned out That whitey was a really good.
<v Speaker 3>Welder we, cut created and painted all of our own
<v Speaker 3>exercise equipment from. Scratch we loaded up the anchor bars
<v Speaker 3>van at The York Barbell company probably a dozen times
<v Speaker 3>so full of weights that it sat probably a foot
<v Speaker 3>lower with its frame almost scraping the. Ground sometime in
<v Speaker 3>nineteen seventy, six Our Olympic gym was finally open to the,
<v Speaker 3>public just in time for the bi. Centennial. Boss, Yeah
<v Speaker 3>i'll say that's. Perfect, well like The Bicep, tenniel there we.
<v Speaker 3>Go we had our own t shirts that read quote
<v Speaker 3>bodybuilders have more meat and stay harder. Longer oh my. God,
<v Speaker 3>yes Ed leslie writes we were. Pigs we had very
<v Speaker 3>few members at, first but that was because we were.
<v Speaker 3>Selective whitey still made decent money in the, bar so
<v Speaker 3>he didn't care either. Way the gym was more of
<v Speaker 3>a project of passion and a way for us to
<v Speaker 3>get ring, ready yes and ring rats and ring. Rats
<v Speaker 3>well we'll get. There so this is what's happening In
<v Speaker 3>terry And Whitey's Olympic gym and nineteen seventy. Six according
<v Speaker 3>To Ed leslie here speaking TO rf, video.
<v Speaker 10>We uh started up the gym over there and trained
<v Speaker 10>six days a, week seven days a, week twice a
<v Speaker 10>day for over a. Year and then you, KNOW i
<v Speaker 10>didn't have a drink of alcohol and just just bear it,
<v Speaker 10>down just got. Huge and he went up to like
<v Speaker 10>three hundred and thirty, pounds AND i went up to
<v Speaker 10>like two. Sixty you, know you, know we just just got,
<v Speaker 10>huge and we, figured you, know would be so big
<v Speaker 10>that somebody's going to give us a. Break you, know
<v Speaker 10>even you, know, somewhere, somehow somebody's going to, say these,
<v Speaker 10>guys you, know somebody's got to give.
<v Speaker 3>Them a, chance right that what of course happened, eventually,
<v Speaker 3>yes but not. There but they know that they build
<v Speaker 3>their bodies up enough that those wrestling paychecks are going to.
<v Speaker 3>Grow say what you, will but you, Know hogan stood
<v Speaker 3>out for a size from the, beginning even if they
<v Speaker 3>were just interested in hazing him in the, beginning but
<v Speaker 3>he learned a. Lesson it's because this big THAT i
<v Speaker 3>even got in the door in the first, place, Right
<v Speaker 3>and so we just got to get as big as
<v Speaker 3>we possibly. Can to never forget the words Of Vic,
<v Speaker 3>pettitt who, Said Diana ball and this is my this
<v Speaker 3>is my way to the world title right. Here So
<v Speaker 3>edward calls because you know the thing, Is i'm sure
<v Speaker 3>the bar is turning a. Profit i'm sure it's all you,
<v Speaker 3>know fun, times fast. Money but you know the gym's
<v Speaker 3>not making any. Money he just said, it, Right how
<v Speaker 3>are they living such a to high end. LIFE i,
<v Speaker 3>mean what else might they be? Trafficking AND i don't,
<v Speaker 3>know uh oh uh, OH i Just i'm. ASKING i
<v Speaker 3>don't have the. Answer i'm just trying to question out there. Right,
<v Speaker 3>well you've kick. Rights we trained hard at the gym
<v Speaker 3>for like a, year but never really brought in any.
<v Speaker 3>Money the real reason it didn't grow was we didn't let.
<v Speaker 3>It the one rule of our gym was no girls.
<v Speaker 3>Allowed that's. Right we wanted to be a hardcore, bodybuilding iron,
<v Speaker 3>pumping real weight lifting gym like you would see in
<v Speaker 3>That Arnold swartzenegger Film Pumping. Iron we wanted it to be.
<v Speaker 3>Gritty we wanted it to be smash. Mouthed we wanted
<v Speaker 3>guys swearing up a storm and getting. Jacked this formula,
<v Speaker 3>however didn't equate to dollars and. Cents it was a
<v Speaker 3>very specific member that we were looking. For there was
<v Speaker 3>one girl who would make a gym appearance from time to. Time,
<v Speaker 3>however she was the one who sold us our cast
<v Speaker 3>register when we mostly just saw her at the.
<v Speaker 9>Bar mm.
<v Speaker 3>HMM i want to introduce, you boss to who the
<v Speaker 3>boys Called Bahama. Mama, oh my, Goodness Bahama, Mama Bahama,
<v Speaker 3>Mama Bahama, mama the complete Hull. Coogan, oh you're damn fucking.
<v Speaker 3>Right she was connected to all the fishermen in the,
<v Speaker 3>area which meant she could get anything you wanted from
<v Speaker 3>anywhere in the. World m she could get any kind
<v Speaker 3>of herbal tea mm, hmm supplement, yes or drug yes
<v Speaker 3>that you can. Imagine that wasn't really our scene at
<v Speaker 3>the time though at the, time. Bullshit we weren't much into. Drugs.
<v Speaker 3>Bullshit there was a little pot around and M m
<v Speaker 3>maybe some hash here and, there but corner cocaine and
<v Speaker 3>but you, know not real. Drugs but we would never
<v Speaker 3>get too crazy back, then. Brother Bahama mama was. Funny
<v Speaker 3>she would come into the, bar, yes with a big,
<v Speaker 3>bag yes that had everything in. It, yes AND i mean. Everything,
<v Speaker 3>yes she had everything From rolex watches to rare, thimbles
<v Speaker 3>To cuban cigars to hardcore. Narcotics yes she. Did why
<v Speaker 3>why why why did you just say yes she? Did
<v Speaker 3>BECAUSE i Because listen must always keep her, around all,
<v Speaker 3>Right that's why you keep her. Around Fucking Bahama. Mama
<v Speaker 3>you're damn fucking. Right where's that? Contraband mm, hmmm where
<v Speaker 3>are those? Narcotics? Yes one Time edward calls a very
<v Speaker 3>rich businessman at the bar ordered some weird exotic. Drink
<v Speaker 3>terry didn't have the right booze for, it But Bahama
<v Speaker 3>mama did and it was right in her. Bag terry
<v Speaker 3>bought the, bottle mixed it, up and then split a
<v Speaker 3>pretty good tip With bahama M. YEAH i suggest that's
<v Speaker 3>not the only tip that the or the crew back
<v Speaker 3>then would split. With Bahama. MAMA i imagine that you are.
<v Speaker 3>Correct SO i pick up what you're throwing down At.
<v Speaker 3>Leslie i'm reading between the, lines and they appear to
<v Speaker 3>be lines of. Cocaine m. H Upon hulkogan's, passing it
<v Speaker 3>really struck. Me In Dave meltzer's excellent obituary on hulkogin
<v Speaker 3>he felt emboldened to say a couple of things that
<v Speaker 3>maybe Well terry was around he knew but didn't. Publish,
<v Speaker 3>yes one of them was the. Following the publicist this
<v Speaker 3>is to, Say Hulk cogan's, publicist who he refers to
<v Speaker 3>as a publicist and never names him or, her noted
<v Speaker 3>to me that they were scared during the course of
<v Speaker 3>The vince McMahons steroid trial that this would be the
<v Speaker 3>end For, hogan even though he had just signed a
<v Speaker 3>deal with W w and that company was going to
<v Speaker 3>be built around. HIM i noted him testifying that he
<v Speaker 3>lied On Arsignio hall and had been taking steroids since
<v Speaker 3>nineteen seventy. Seven, wow which was a lock that it
<v Speaker 3>would come out and not going to damage him to
<v Speaker 3>wrestling fans most already knew. That she noted that they
<v Speaker 3>realized the damage of him admitting usage of steroids wasn't
<v Speaker 3>going to, hurt but she feared that in cross EXAMINATION
<v Speaker 3>wwe attempt to ruin his character and, credibility or that
<v Speaker 3>somehow it would come out that he he terribo. Lea,
<v Speaker 3>yes was a drug, Dealer, yes, yes about. It give
<v Speaker 3>me that cocoa beach, Beach, yeah that fucking talk at those.
<v Speaker 3>Proceeds whether that was from his early Days meltzer rights
<v Speaker 3>in The Gulf, coast which is soon to come as
<v Speaker 3>he returns to the wrestling business and works The Gulf coast,
<v Speaker 3>territory or perhaps something else that gave the government leverage
<v Speaker 3>on him where he took the immunity in exchange for.
<v Speaker 3>Testifying it's one of the Things terry says in The
<v Speaker 3>netflix documentary On vince McMahon is that at some point
<v Speaker 3>he was led to believe that the government had enough
<v Speaker 3>on him to put him away for seventeen years unless
<v Speaker 3>they essentially believed that he was going to say what
<v Speaker 3>they wanted him to say About vince. McMahon hulk got the,
<v Speaker 3>Immunity there is an, understanding and he takes the stand
<v Speaker 3>and don't help the, hide and he absolutely tells a
<v Speaker 3>different story than the prosecution gave him immunity to. Tell that's,
<v Speaker 3>right THAT'S i think that's the generally accept did version
<v Speaker 3>of what happened on that fateful day In july nineteen
<v Speaker 3>ninety four In, Uniondale Long, Island New. York and who
<v Speaker 3>knows how far back they went digging who knows who
<v Speaker 3>From terry's pass they may have established touch with to
<v Speaker 3>get a, case perhaps around the idea That hogan wasn't
<v Speaker 3>just using drugs but may have been selling. Them elsa,
<v Speaker 3>writes the immunity was signed and you should have seen
<v Speaker 3>the prosecutor's faces When hogan testified that he was never
<v Speaker 3>supplied drugs by McMahon or drugs were sent from McMahon to.
<v Speaker 3>Him he explained that Doctor George saharian would send steroids
<v Speaker 3>for both he and McMahon to McMahon's office In, Stanford,
<v Speaker 3>connecticut and the two would then split up the drugs
<v Speaker 3>in the. Package do you remember both one of the
<v Speaker 3>subtleties from the trial of his life our coverage Of
<v Speaker 3>vince McMahons steroid, trial word for word from the court,
<v Speaker 3>transcript the Pains hulk took on the stand to say
<v Speaker 3>that any time he gave someone else steroids mm, hmm
<v Speaker 3>it was because they had already given him some and
<v Speaker 3>he was just making up for. That it was always
<v Speaker 3>couched that, way because then you can't claim that he's
<v Speaker 3>selling them or distributing them to, anybody because he's not
<v Speaker 3>making a. Profit he's already interrears these people every, time
<v Speaker 3>and he never receives the order or makes the. Order
<v Speaker 3>he's always got a guy on the phone with him
<v Speaker 3>Making come, on as if they're not both on the
<v Speaker 3>phone making the. Order And terry gets the order and
<v Speaker 3>gives it to that, guy or that guy gets the
<v Speaker 3>order and gives it To. Terry suddenly we're in a
<v Speaker 3>distribution situation and we can't have. That k fiz abe
<v Speaker 3>the STIs. Aeroids mm, hmmm meuncer Continues Laura, brevetti the
<v Speaker 3>attorney For lenna McMahon and the Current Ring boys, trial
<v Speaker 3>came out with giant binders of information On hogan to
<v Speaker 3>ruin his credibility and cross examination if, necessary because he's
<v Speaker 3>up there on behalf of THE us. Government but when
<v Speaker 3>he can imagine what was in those, files can you?
<v Speaker 3>Imagine are you gonna you're gonna bet me dollars to?
<v Speaker 3>Donuts and once in those files doesn't stretch back To
<v Speaker 3>terry And Whitey's jim or. Clubs, absolutely they're gonna have, listen,
<v Speaker 3>listen come, on all, right we know what kind of
<v Speaker 3>lawyers they. Hired we hired, lawyers all. Right they hired
<v Speaker 3>lawyers who were ready for, war, ye all, right and
<v Speaker 3>they there's not a single thing if you Crossed vince
<v Speaker 3>literally on that. Stand, yep there's not a single thing
<v Speaker 3>you'd ever done wrong that they didn't have proof of
<v Speaker 3>in their little binders. There, yep just in case you
<v Speaker 3>stepped out of.
<v Speaker 4>Line.
<v Speaker 3>Yep there's a Reason vince didn't have to, Testify, yes lave,
<v Speaker 3>attorney they didn't need a. Defense but When hogan testified For,
<v Speaker 3>vince melts her. Rights she never used any of. It
<v Speaker 3>it appeared the content of what they knew is what
<v Speaker 3>Scared hogan's, publicist and the real damage never came out
<v Speaker 3>in the. Trial But meltzer does note during this period
<v Speaker 3>Both David, schultz doctor d who of course was a
<v Speaker 3>close friends Of hulks from The Gulf coast all the
<v Speaker 3>way through THE awa and Pack holt brought him in
<v Speaker 3>right behind him in eighty four To New, york And Randy,
<v Speaker 3>colly who was the Future moondog, member who was the
<v Speaker 3>very first person to testify Against vince McMahon and his
<v Speaker 3>steroid trial and who talked at length about steroid culture
<v Speaker 3>and THE. Wwf both of these gentlemen told Erv, muchnik
<v Speaker 3>who wrote a lot of seminal stories about these. Scandals
<v Speaker 3>at this point in, time who wrote the Book Wrestling
<v Speaker 3>babylon that we've talked a lot about over the. Years.
<v Speaker 3>Ye Both David schultz And Randy colly TOLD Irv muchnik
<v Speaker 3>That hulko was a drug connection for. Them, yes he.
<v Speaker 3>Was how about this note from an observer in nineteen ninety,
<v Speaker 3>Two schultz said Hog and sold a potpourri of drugs
<v Speaker 3>throughout the eighties and was known in wrestling circles as
<v Speaker 3>The Dampa.
<v Speaker 4>Pipeline what.
<v Speaker 3>Can you prepare A Tampa pipeline? Shirt? Please? YEAH i,
<v Speaker 3>mean holy, shit you're you're killing me. Here now we've
<v Speaker 3>met doctor D, yes he's that curious mix of he'll say,
<v Speaker 3>anything but he's also like kind of lawyered. Up he's
<v Speaker 3>a private. Investigator he doesn't leave eyes dotted and eyes
<v Speaker 3>undotted and t's on crossed in terms of what he's.
<v Speaker 3>Saying it might everything he says might have an agenda
<v Speaker 3>and trying to force concessions from people or. Whatever but
<v Speaker 3>he is not an. Idiot he is not an. Idiot
<v Speaker 3>he is not a guy, no who is not cerebral
<v Speaker 3>about what he does and how he moves through the
<v Speaker 3>world and WHAT i had trouble doing and maybe folks
<v Speaker 3>in the solar system could help was pinning down because
<v Speaker 3>it's kind of. Convoluted in the article where this allegation was,
<v Speaker 3>MADE i think what it was was there was A
<v Speaker 3>penhouse magazine. Article Erv muchnik would sell stories To. Penhouse
<v Speaker 3>he wrote a very seminal piece on levon erics as
<v Speaker 3>one of the first full magazine, length nationally distributed stories
<v Speaker 3>on that whole saga that would provide the blueprint for
<v Speaker 3>retelling after, retelling including the lamentable tragedy of what happened.
<v Speaker 3>There and he did a similar piece in nineteen ninety
<v Speaker 3>two For penhouse about all of the steroid and all
<v Speaker 3>of The Tom cole and all of The Ring boy
<v Speaker 3>And Murray hodgson and all that stuff that was floating
<v Speaker 3>around from a scandal perspective IN wwf at the. TIME
<v Speaker 3>i believe it was from that article which it appeared
<v Speaker 3>From The. OBSERVER i was looking at That neltzer got
<v Speaker 3>an advanced view at because he was writing about its
<v Speaker 3>contents well at the same, time saying it was to be,
<v Speaker 3>published and kind of talking about What titan was and
<v Speaker 3>wasn't doing to try to counteract its. Publication but it
<v Speaker 3>was couched in an article about. That SO i, think
<v Speaker 3>BECAUSE i can't find the exact, snippet BUT i think
<v Speaker 3>That schultz makes that allegation about distribution about The tampa
<v Speaker 3>pipeline in that, article which is not easy to. Find
<v Speaker 3>AND Irv muschnik has republished a lot of the stuff
<v Speaker 3>he did during that time, period AND i do not
<v Speaker 3>believe this piece is among. Them so it's kind of.
<v Speaker 3>Interesting one can see why you might. Not you might
<v Speaker 3>be convinced of Your David schultz to step back a
<v Speaker 3>little bit From, yeah that. Strong but you can't Say
<v Speaker 3>tampa pipeline ever and not have a. Echo you. Can't
<v Speaker 3>and the fact That Hull cogan didn't Sue David schultz
<v Speaker 3>immediately after he said that says something to, me knowing
<v Speaker 3>how litigious he would, become and knowing how surrounded he
<v Speaker 3>was by lawyers looking to Destroy he did write in
<v Speaker 3>his Book Rustling Babon. NUTS. Rv muchik did write In Wrestling.
<v Speaker 3>Babylon But hogan's drug abuse went beyond, steroids according To David.
<v Speaker 3>Schultz he Says hogan also used, cocaine, marijuana, uppers. Downers
<v Speaker 3>sheltz's Friend Randy, cully who wrestled under the names of
<v Speaker 3>the assassin And. Moon Doug rex confirms Quote me And
<v Speaker 3>ogan ran around. Together he was real bold about steroid,
<v Speaker 3>use and he also did, placidyl, coeludes, cocaine just normal.
<v Speaker 3>STUFF i don't see what the big. Dealing but if
<v Speaker 3>we really want to go to the if we want
<v Speaker 3>to go to the very heart Of, Yes hulk cog
<v Speaker 3>and Hate, Yes if we really want to get something that,
<v Speaker 3>sounds you, know totally, firm something that wasn't followed up
<v Speaker 3>by a, lawsuit something from someone who's actually gone up
<v Speaker 3>Against hulk and invents an Illegal irenian. Triumphed we got
<v Speaker 3>to go right to the source for truth On Terry
<v Speaker 3>boleya and whether or not he was engaged in such.
<v Speaker 3>ACTIVITY i present to you on The Grim Messenger.
<v Speaker 11>Show what Did Hull cogan say about steroids that bothered?
<v Speaker 5>You he said he never took. Him why actually when
<v Speaker 5>he was Sharing, minneapolis that's whore you went to get him. For. Yeah, really,
<v Speaker 5>well he'll say that's not. True but for, him like
<v Speaker 5>the common laugh used to be when he used to
<v Speaker 5>tell the kids to say their prayers and take their
<v Speaker 5>vitamins in the dressing, room we'd always laugh and say
<v Speaker 5>oorals or.
<v Speaker 3>Injectables, wow did he just not say? That not only
<v Speaker 3>Did terry take them In, minneapolis he was the one
<v Speaker 3>you would go to to get. Them, yes.
<v Speaker 11>What Did Hulk hogan say about steroids that bothered?
<v Speaker 5>You he said he never took.
<v Speaker 11>Them that was a.
<v Speaker 5>Lie, actually when he was here In, minneapolis that's who
<v Speaker 5>you went to get him.
<v Speaker 3>From that's. RIGHT i remember that he's no third, party first,
<v Speaker 3>Party Helk. Hogan how we, feeling? Boss we tingling a little,
<v Speaker 3>bit as you, say. Electrified, well let's pain a fuller,
<v Speaker 3>picture shall. We let's understand what the. Look, look look
<v Speaker 3>he's gotta and he's got a fucking sprawling spread in Fucking. Florida,
<v Speaker 3>ah give it to. ME i, mean why is he
<v Speaker 3>the guy that gym culture running his own? Gym? MMM
<v Speaker 3>i don't. Know, well maybe the whole thing is on
<v Speaker 3>the up and. Up maybe there's not a whiff of
<v Speaker 3>illicit activity About Anchor. Club maybe that's. There it's normal,
<v Speaker 3>Behavior come, on normal, establishment catering to normal. Patrons, no
<v Speaker 3>no ill repute, here, right they're getting rid of the.
<v Speaker 3>Rifference it's not it's not a den of booze and
<v Speaker 3>sex and, drugs not at, all not at. All the
<v Speaker 3>emphasis is on the, youth, Right, yes why don't you
<v Speaker 3>read this little. Snippet this is From let's see what
<v Speaker 3>year is this? From this is From florida, today nineteen seventy,
<v Speaker 3>three upon the opening Of Anchor club And Coco. Beach
<v Speaker 3>So hulk is still on the road playing. Music Anchor
<v Speaker 3>club's emphasis is on. Youth The Anchor, club newly Opening Cocoa,
<v Speaker 3>beach is now the plushest place In brevard for young.
<v Speaker 3>Adults it is a, large low lit, room carpeted and
<v Speaker 3>red and permeated with an air of, sophistication located near
<v Speaker 3>the beach at the end OF sr. Five the club
<v Speaker 3>used to be known as The Golden guinea And Ore
<v Speaker 3>room before it became The. Anchor it closed many months
<v Speaker 3>ago and is now open under the management Of Whitey
<v Speaker 3>Bridges james Whitey, Bridges. Jim so that's how it was
<v Speaker 3>written up when it, opened it was, yes and you
<v Speaker 3>know under new management now emphasis on. Youth that would
<v Speaker 3>be tough later when they were constantly being visited by
<v Speaker 3>inspectors looking for underage serving in a culture where everyone
<v Speaker 3>seems to have a story of using a FAKE id
<v Speaker 3>to get served in these clubs back then in the,
<v Speaker 3>seventies but nonetheless that was the sort of go to.
<v Speaker 3>Market As Whitey bridges takes over the Former Golden Guinea
<v Speaker 3>Or room And Cocoa beach just about three years before
<v Speaker 3>he convinces his gym Buddy Terry bolay to make the. Drive,
<v Speaker 3>now at some, point of, course it seems That ruckus
<v Speaker 3>comes through and plays the, club which establishes the connection
<v Speaker 3>That hogan leans on later and quitting. WRESTLING i just
<v Speaker 3>emailed to you bost some clips From Florida today from
<v Speaker 3>nineteen seventy. Four this is a year after it. Opened
<v Speaker 3>and this helps us color in a little bit. More
<v Speaker 3>it's an article really about bartending and, stuff but it
<v Speaker 3>gets us into gets us into the frame of mind
<v Speaker 3>as to what World Terry boleya was stepping into by
<v Speaker 3>making that, long arduous two hour drive To Cocoa. Beach
<v Speaker 3>can start on one page one AND i will, oh
<v Speaker 3>it's one, Okay, Sonia and, yeah there's a, continuation but
<v Speaker 3>it's the piece entitled take your basic shot, glass. Brother
<v Speaker 3>let's let's do the best we can to get inside
<v Speaker 3>The Anchor. Club oh, yes, indeed we'll get in there
<v Speaker 3>and we'll get in there. Hard here we, go and
<v Speaker 3>just zoom in here for my fucking forty four year old.
<v Speaker 3>Eyes Here Carl haysen is on the. Scene, oh it's
<v Speaker 3>just a tiny. Mistake who can read those labels in
<v Speaker 3>the dim? Light row upon row of liquor, bottles all
<v Speaker 3>the same, size all capped identically with pouring. Funnels, yes so.
<v Speaker 3>Confusing so confusing the gin with the vodka is not
<v Speaker 3>a totally unforgivable. Error both liquids look. Alike who would ever, Know,
<v Speaker 3>well maybe the customer and maybe bartender del, favero who's
<v Speaker 3>looking over your. Shoulder what's the big deal if you
<v Speaker 3>pour a beer and there's three inches of SuDS on,
<v Speaker 3>top so the customer gets his nose a little wet
<v Speaker 3>trying to drink. It just a minor, detail, right, Wrong
<v Speaker 3>ask any. Bartender of, course there is a right and
<v Speaker 3>wrong way to pour a, beer and certainly every bottle
<v Speaker 3>has its, place and a good bartender worth his jigger
<v Speaker 3>doesn't need to check the label before. Pouring letting letting
<v Speaker 3>a teetotaler teetotaler teet total someone who doesn't, Drink, okay
<v Speaker 3>letting a teetotaler tend the bar is like dropping a
<v Speaker 3>non swimmer in the middle of The Atlantic, ocean especially
<v Speaker 3>if the bars at The Anchor club one of the
<v Speaker 3>liveliest hotspots in the. County let's fucking. Go did Ed
<v Speaker 3>leslie not say we didn't have a drop of alcohol back?
<v Speaker 3>Then they're talking About Terry. Blea, Yes bara has spent
<v Speaker 3>fifteen years Behind cocoa beach. Bars he's a very patient,
<v Speaker 3>man especially when it comes to explaining the basics of good. Bartending,
<v Speaker 3>hey you start with the, mechanics he, said pointing to
<v Speaker 3>the tray where the, vodka, Gin scotch and other mainstays
<v Speaker 3>are kept behind the, BAR a rose and rows of
<v Speaker 3>all the popular, Brands Jack, Daniels Canadian, Club Jim, beam old.
<v Speaker 3>Granddad names that mean little to a stayed beer, drinker
<v Speaker 3>but warm the hearts and wet the whistles of. Connoisseurs,
<v Speaker 3>well you have to learn the different, Glasses favero. Said
<v Speaker 3>this is A collins. Glass over here is there basic shot.
<v Speaker 3>Glass this one is a champagne, glass and this is for,
<v Speaker 3>cordials and so. On another. RELEVATION a glass is not a,
<v Speaker 3>glass is not a? Glass, true all glasses hold, booze
<v Speaker 3>but filling a champagne glass with brandy is bad manners
<v Speaker 3>like eating peas with a, Spoon making a drink isn't
<v Speaker 3>really too, Difficult but in the darkness of the, bar
<v Speaker 3>with a suspicious customer scrutinizing your, technique it's perfectly understandable
<v Speaker 3>how one could actually miss the glass the first. Time
<v Speaker 3>there's no problem to clean up a little puddle of.
<v Speaker 3>Bourbon experienced bartenders can whip up the wildest, potion how
<v Speaker 3>about a purple body honey faster than you can shake
<v Speaker 3>a swizzle. Stick but when novas pouring a simple gin
<v Speaker 3>and tonic can present a monumental challenge in precision and.
<v Speaker 3>Grace favero gladly outline a couple safety tips for. Bartenders for,
<v Speaker 3>instance it's not a bad idea to cover the glass
<v Speaker 3>while squeezing a twist of lime into a, Drink otherwise
<v Speaker 3>the customer could end up with a sour case of
<v Speaker 3>citrus in the. Eye another possible pitfall is the cocktail.
<v Speaker 3>Shaker make sure it covers the glass real, tight real
<v Speaker 3>tight before, Shaking otherwise the drink won't be on the,
<v Speaker 3>rocks but on your trousers and pop on your customer
<v Speaker 3>pretending books it was, learned are not particularly helpful in
<v Speaker 3>a commercial situation and do not inspire confidence in. Customers favero,
<v Speaker 3>said the same drink may have five different. Names so
<v Speaker 3>one could spend an hour scanning these handy paper zoom. In,
<v Speaker 3>sorry fucking really fucking small is the job that Apparently terry.
<v Speaker 3>Took continue to say, it, says, uh one could spend
<v Speaker 3>an hour scanning these handy paperbacks and still never find the.
<v Speaker 3>Recipe tequila is the big thing, now he. Said the
<v Speaker 3>kids like Tequila sunrise and The Harvey. Wallbanger what the
<v Speaker 3>fuck is The Harvey. Wallbanger you never heard of that.
<v Speaker 3>BEFORE i never heard of any. One i've never heard
<v Speaker 3>of that one. Before, yeah IT'S i, MEAN i love,
<v Speaker 3>listen love me some Tequila Harvey wallbanger. Has it's a
<v Speaker 3>screwdriver with Oh, golliano which is a sweet herbal liquor with,
<v Speaker 3>vanilla a liqueur with vanilla. End so it's not made
<v Speaker 3>with it's not way with. Tequila he just fucking talked about.
<v Speaker 3>Tequila he lists. This he, says tequila is the big thing.
<v Speaker 3>Now the kids like the Tequila sunrise and The Harvey.
<v Speaker 3>Wallbanger but The harvey wallbanger doesn't, KNOW i don't. KNOW
<v Speaker 3>i just Now favera has just fucking lost my. Confidence
<v Speaker 3>the young crowd would rather drink something on the sweet
<v Speaker 3>side rather than to suffer through a harsh whiskey. Taste
<v Speaker 3>after reviewing the mechanics of bartending from the public relations
<v Speaker 3>end of this, business let's go a few people crying
<v Speaker 3>their beer at The anchor, club he. Said most come to.
<v Speaker 3>Laugh things are usually too busy and too loud for
<v Speaker 3>any serious heart to heart discussions with the. Bartenders this
<v Speaker 3>is not your neighborhood. Saloon people don't come here to
<v Speaker 3>talk about their. Troubles it's not like bartenders are ministers asshole.
<v Speaker 3>Ha but even if, they it sounds, like even if
<v Speaker 3>they wanted it to, be it's not gonna. Happen so, yeah,
<v Speaker 3>Right but a big part of the business is knowing,
<v Speaker 3>people and after fifteen, Years Del favero. Does there at
<v Speaker 3>the end of the bar or a couple of well
<v Speaker 3>dressed businessmen, regulars but four stools down are three minutes
<v Speaker 3>pegged is out of town or it's possibly conventioners and
<v Speaker 3>two young. Ladies i'd say twenty one or twenty two
<v Speaker 3>unattached but not necessarily. Looking maybe they came just to
<v Speaker 3>hear the. Band, favero thirty, five said he communicates well
<v Speaker 3>both with the younger and older. CUSTOMERS i try to
<v Speaker 3>stay on top of. Things i'm right in the. Middle
<v Speaker 3>ha Ha oh that's. Reassuring, Yeah i'm right in the.
<v Speaker 3>MIDDLE i can look back and see myself WHEN i
<v Speaker 3>was twenty. Five The anchor club is frequented by, singles he,
<v Speaker 3>said most looking for conversation and. Companionship oh, boy that's
<v Speaker 3>a why and, man that's a fucking conversation and. Companionship
<v Speaker 3>SO i don't, know talking and fucking fucking maybe and
<v Speaker 3>fucking fucking, yeah, well fucking fucking we might just get.
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<v Speaker 3>Sorrow men on the prow are more likely to stand
<v Speaker 3>up than sit down to the bar to. Talk as
<v Speaker 3>long as he's sitting, down he can't, Operate favero, explained
<v Speaker 3>was a. Surgeon but as long as he's, mobile he's doing.
<v Speaker 3>Good is that what he says he's doing. Good as
<v Speaker 3>long as he's, mobile he's doing. GOOD i don't get
<v Speaker 3>what that. Means but it's all mystery talk at The Anchor,
<v Speaker 3>Club isn't it really? Is Jesus, Christ he asked the
<v Speaker 3>man it would take two weeks to fully train a tenderfoot.
<v Speaker 3>Bartender at least one generous customer found it in his
<v Speaker 3>heart to leave a fifty cent tip to a Bumbling
<v Speaker 3>today reporter who almost turned his Black russian into a
<v Speaker 3>red Faced. Floridian just make sure everybody's having a good,
<v Speaker 3>Time favero. Said that's easy as long as everyone Orders. Budweiser,
<v Speaker 3>oh that's, easy as long as everyone Orders. Budweiser but
<v Speaker 3>the first time someone orders A yoho, cocktail or A
<v Speaker 3>Monkey gland or A Gin, sin that's the time to
<v Speaker 3>beat a hasty retreat to the other side of the.
<v Speaker 3>Bar that's fucking Wild florida. Today august, sixteenth nineteen seventy. Nine,
<v Speaker 3>Yes Michael kosek sat in the witness Chair wednesday and
<v Speaker 3>gave a, simple forceful answer to charge as he fatally
<v Speaker 3>stabbed an eighteen year Old pennsylvania Man may. TWENTY i
<v Speaker 3>did not kill that man, Whatsoever, Yes, kosek twenty, five
<v Speaker 3>Told Circuit court jurorers he had nothing to do with
<v Speaker 3>the murder Of Gary hicks Of, Botstown, pennsylvania but could
<v Speaker 3>give no reason Why witness after witness over two days
<v Speaker 3>had linked him to the slaying at A Cocoa beach.
<v Speaker 3>Bar you tell me, why and then we'll both, know
<v Speaker 3>he told. Prosecutors the Former chicago man said he was
<v Speaker 3>at another bar When hicks was. Stabbed the bloody knife
<v Speaker 3>found By lease in his car was not, his that
<v Speaker 3>his own knife had been stolen from the vehicle on
<v Speaker 3>the night of the. Murder friends from Two melbourne bars
<v Speaker 3>testify That kosek was peaceful and truthful. Man his former, girlfriend,
<v Speaker 3>however later identified the hunting knife linked to the death As.
<v Speaker 3>Cosseks she also told jurors he had admitted to the
<v Speaker 3>murder and asked her to lie for him to. Police
<v Speaker 3>other patrons of the bar then returned to the stand
<v Speaker 3>to identify the knife with its broken tipped blade as
<v Speaker 3>the one they Saw koseck wear and hold only days
<v Speaker 3>before the. Murder, hicks a technical school senior who came
<v Speaker 3>To Cocoa beach In, may died of a single heart
<v Speaker 3>wound inflicted at The Ocean View, bar fourteen nine Ozer
<v Speaker 3>Ocean Beach. Boulevard kosek faces his charges of first brother
<v Speaker 3>basis charges a first degree, murder, kidnapping aggravated, assault and
<v Speaker 3>false imprisonment stemming From hick's death about two thirty Am may,
<v Speaker 3>twentieth and an assault made on an eyewitness to the.
<v Speaker 3>Murder attorneys for both sides will give their closing arguments
<v Speaker 3>on the case starting at nine thirty am today In.
<v Speaker 3>Titusville in a sometimes booming, Voice coseck gave a point
<v Speaker 3>by point denial to testimony offered by a list of state.
<v Speaker 3>Witnesses he said he did not Threaten hicks in the
<v Speaker 3>bar early on the night of the, killing and did
<v Speaker 3>not gesture For hicks to go outside where he was.
<v Speaker 3>Stabbed he said he had never even Met. Hicks two
<v Speaker 3>witnesses if testified they Saw coseck Kill hicks with a
<v Speaker 3>single blow outside the, bar one of, Them Jerry. Goodner
<v Speaker 3>the second also Said koseck forced him to go To koseack's,
<v Speaker 3>car where the accused stashed his. Knife kosick said he
<v Speaker 3>spent most of the evening at the Nearby Anchor. Club,
<v Speaker 3>yes he did dancing for a while with Girlfriend Debra. Cole.
<v Speaker 3>Yes he said he stopped only briefly at The Ocean View,
<v Speaker 3>bar bought a beer at the Adjacent Booby Trap, lounge
<v Speaker 3>then returned to The Anchor club before the. Slaying, However
<v Speaker 3>cole Said coseck told her differently after he was. Arrested
<v Speaker 3>he told, Me peppery just killed a man at The.
<v Speaker 3>Trap tell the, POLICE i danced all night with you
<v Speaker 3>at The Anchor.
<v Speaker 4>Club.
<v Speaker 3>Yes. Florida, Today, Tuesday april twenty, fourth nineteen seventy, nine
<v Speaker 3>A michigan man charged with rape remained in a Brevarc
<v Speaker 3>county Jail monday. NIGHT a jail spokesman Said Rick James,
<v Speaker 3>bird twenty, five was arrested Midnight saturday in the parking
<v Speaker 3>lot of The Anchor club to Eleven Eescoco Beach, Causeway Coco,
<v Speaker 3>beach in charge with sexual battery At Coco. Beach Police
<v Speaker 3>department spokesman said the rape allegedly took place in the
<v Speaker 3>back of a Green chevrolet station wagon parked in the
<v Speaker 3>club's parking. Lot, yes the spokesman. Said. Florida, Today november,
<v Speaker 3>seventh nineteen Eighty Gene byrd defeated candidate For Brevard County
<v Speaker 3>sheriff Testified thursday on behalf of fellow Deputy William, wells
<v Speaker 3>who was on trial here on charge as he violated
<v Speaker 3>federal gun control. Laws bird Described wells as a family
<v Speaker 3>man and a very sincere police. Officer it was a
<v Speaker 3>veritable parade of deputies taking the witness stand As Deputies
<v Speaker 3>Leonard lewis And Harvey smith also testifying for the temporarily Suspended.
<v Speaker 3>Wells commenting On wells's reputation in the, Community lewis termed
<v Speaker 3>it good And smith called it beyond. Reproach good. Reputation,
<v Speaker 3>Notwithstanding wells admitted undercross examination by the PROSECUTING us attorney
<v Speaker 3>that he did commit illegal acts in his moonlighting business
<v Speaker 3>as a licensed gun. Dealer the thirty three year Old
<v Speaker 3>wells admitted he illegally manufactured silencers and converted a semi
<v Speaker 3>automatic carbine to a fully automatic machine gun without applying
<v Speaker 3>for the necessary permits to do, so when he admitted
<v Speaker 3>that he knew his actions were. Illegal in his own, defense,
<v Speaker 3>however he said he manufactured and sold these illegal firearms
<v Speaker 3>because he believed that the person he was selling them
<v Speaker 3>to was A cia agent what preparing for a secret
<v Speaker 3>mission In South america Or Puerto rico and. Reality the
<v Speaker 3>man to whom he sold a twenty two caliber rifle
<v Speaker 3>with a silence, or a thirty three caliber pistol with
<v Speaker 3>a silence or and a machine, gun a three point
<v Speaker 3>fifty seven revolver and three small pistols was A Us
<v Speaker 3>treasury firearms. Agent wells said he was introduced to undercover
<v Speaker 3>Agent Joseph benitez By arthur De soto of The Anchor
<v Speaker 3>club In Cocoa. Beach De soto a co defendant but
<v Speaker 3>currently a. Fugitive what the fuck you don't tell? Me
<v Speaker 3>the manager of The Anchor club by nineteen eighty was
<v Speaker 3>a fugitive was described By wells as a FORMER cia
<v Speaker 3>operative In. Vietnam the former manager of The Anchor club
<v Speaker 3>was described as a FORMER cia operative In. Vietnam, therefore
<v Speaker 3>When desda approached him for illegal, guns and according To wall's,
<v Speaker 3>testimony he, said it was for A cia operation In.
<v Speaker 3>VIETNAM i served big. Fan, hey, Hey, terry the Name
<v Speaker 3>DeSoto mean anything to? You you ever heard somebody Named? Deashoto?
<v Speaker 3>Terry Huh? Tyrrell where's the At florida? Today, Tuesday june,
<v Speaker 3>twentieth nineteen eighty, one the Seventh Breveri brevardian From Breward
<v Speaker 3>county to be charged in the past year where the
<v Speaker 3>legal gun sales will be, tried probably next. Month ARTHUR. G,
<v Speaker 3>desto The Coco beach resident at the time the charges
<v Speaker 3>were filed last, year was arrested In texas In december
<v Speaker 3>and returned to federal custody In. Orlando pleaded. Innocent earlier
<v Speaker 3>this month did De soto to thirteen charges of illegal
<v Speaker 3>sales of. Firearms the charges list To soto as a
<v Speaker 3>confederate of convicted Former Brevard sheriff's Deputy Bill. Wells, wells
<v Speaker 3>who was found guilty of the same charges lodged against De,
<v Speaker 3>soto was sentenced Last december to three and a half
<v Speaker 3>years in. Prison he is appealing the. Case during his,
<v Speaker 3>Trial wells testified That De soto of The Anchor club
<v Speaker 3>talked him into selling the illegal guns in question to
<v Speaker 3>a man who turned out to be an undercover agent
<v Speaker 3>with The bureau Of alcohol to back on. Firearms well
<v Speaker 3>said he made the sales because he Believed De soto
<v Speaker 3>and the buyer were both involved with THE. Cia De
<v Speaker 3>soto had boasted about being A cia operative In southeast
<v Speaker 3>during The Vietnam. War Des soto had managed The Anchor
<v Speaker 3>club In Coco beach before disappearing last. Fall he was
<v Speaker 3>found by law enforcement official In, Galveston, texas working in a,
<v Speaker 3>marina and he's being held on one hundred thousand dollars
<v Speaker 3>Bond Florida. Today, Saturday october, eighteenth nineteen seventy, five A
<v Speaker 3>Cocoa beach nightclub was Accused friday in a lawsuit of
<v Speaker 3>allowing its employees to beat up a. Customer What CHARLES.
<v Speaker 3>M shechan stated in The Reverend Circuit courts suit that
<v Speaker 3>he was talking with a band member at The Anchor
<v Speaker 3>club to Eleveny Storm jab On january, fourth nineteen seventy,
<v Speaker 3>four when an employee Named Cotton higgins grabbed, him carried
<v Speaker 3>him to the club's, door and cast him out the.
<v Speaker 3>Door she and the suit state had turned back toward the,
<v Speaker 3>door but another club, Employee Eddie Bear, frost grabbed him
<v Speaker 3>by his hair and threw him to the. Ground she
<v Speaker 3>and Said frost beat and struck him on the head
<v Speaker 3>three times and kicked him in the, mouth leaving him.
<v Speaker 3>Unconsted the suit stated she and had to pay medical
<v Speaker 3>bills resulting from the incident and lost time from his college.
<v Speaker 3>Studies he seeks more than twenty five hundred dollars in.
<v Speaker 3>DAMAGES a club employee Said, friday the manager was not
<v Speaker 3>available for. COMMENT Mm beefcake one, night he, RECALLS i
<v Speaker 3>practically had to body slam some rude asshole out the
<v Speaker 3>door who refused to leave after having won too. Many
<v Speaker 3>after all that working, out it turned out that it
<v Speaker 3>was actually much easier for me to do THAN i
<v Speaker 3>thought it would have. Been that is WHEN i decided
<v Speaker 3>even more so THAT i wanted to Wrestle florida. Today,
<v Speaker 3>Friday march, twelfth nineteen and seventy, six The Anchor club
<v Speaker 3>Of Brevet ink two Eleveny strange Aff Coco beach And
<v Speaker 3>marcus And powell And CHARLES. G, bridges that is to,
<v Speaker 3>say Whitey bridges have been named defendants in a music
<v Speaker 3>copyright suit filed in federal Court. Wow the, Plaintiffs Jubite Music,
<v Speaker 3>Company Black Bull, Music. Inc And Cayan Music, limited claimed
<v Speaker 3>The Anchor club has been playing copyrighted songs without. Permission
<v Speaker 3>they are seeking monetary damages and an injunction suit Filed
<v Speaker 3>thursday in federal court and assigned TO Us District Judge GEORGE.
<v Speaker 3>C young nineteen ninety, Four Miami. Herald this one's going
<v Speaker 3>to be for, You, okay come in your, way any,
<v Speaker 3>thoughts any thoughts an anchor. Club i'm, Fine i'm it's.
<v Speaker 3>LISTEN i, DON'T i. Don't doesn't sound like a place
<v Speaker 3>where anyone tries to get away with. Anything WHAT i
<v Speaker 3>WHAT i figure what you're doing is you're just kind, of,
<v Speaker 3>like you, know just laying the groundwork for just a normal.
<v Speaker 3>Xact thank. You i'm so glad that you you understand
<v Speaker 3>that and that it's not. Misinterpreted there's, nothing it's not
<v Speaker 3>a big. Deal you, know everything's everything's pretty low, key
<v Speaker 3>not too many things. Happening it's just what happens when
<v Speaker 3>you run a place that's a good, time right exactly.
<v Speaker 3>Exactly you, know there's always, somebody there's always. Somebody there's
<v Speaker 3>nobody in the, run there's nobody being shaken, down there's
<v Speaker 3>no there's no guns being run out of the. Place
<v Speaker 3>there's no you, know rapes or anything like. That it's
<v Speaker 3>it's these are it's just normal normal behavior and normal business.
<v Speaker 3>MANAGEMENT i, mean Hero Old, Wednesday may, eleventh nineteen ninety. Four,
<v Speaker 3>boss if you could pull up page. One there it's
<v Speaker 3>a two. Pager all, Right i'm bringing it up. Here
<v Speaker 3>article off to the right hand margin Entitled Broward Nude
<v Speaker 3>Bar king is Indicted Broward. Wow oh my. Gosh us
<v Speaker 3>alleges mob. Infiltration oh, boy all, right here we, go
<v Speaker 3>just again zooming in the uh run our way for
<v Speaker 3>the old. Eyes here this Is i'm already feeling it.
<v Speaker 3>Here Anchor Club Anchor Club, Bahama Mama Whitey. Bridges federal
<v Speaker 3>agents arrested nude bar Empressario MICHAEL. J Peters tuesday on
<v Speaker 3>an indictment alleging he was involved in, extortion, racketeering and
<v Speaker 3>fraud in the operation of The. Dollhouse that's th ee
<v Speaker 3>by the, way meaning your. Dollhouse, Correct, hey, yeah you
<v Speaker 3>get a The dollhouse a three nude. Bar Although peter
<v Speaker 3>runs dozens of nude bars, worldwide the federal indictment covers
<v Speaker 3>only the activities at The dollhouse Near Papano. Beach Federal
<v Speaker 3>Grand jury And Fort lauderdale last week returned the eight
<v Speaker 3>count indictment Against. Peter In Las, vegas Associate Natalie richichi
<v Speaker 3>seventy eight a reputed. Gambino oh, no, Sorry natali Not
<v Speaker 3>Natalie Natali, richiici Reputed gambino crime Boss, peter who has
<v Speaker 3>headquarters In Fort lauderdale And, Hollywood, california rendered at nine
<v Speaker 3>am today In Fort lauderdale and appeared BEFORE Us Magistrate Lurana.
<v Speaker 3>Snow these fucking Names Jesus, Christ, Yeah Batal, rachici and
<v Speaker 3>you get Fucking Laurana. Snow. Now the government has been very,
<v Speaker 3>accommodating said his, Attorney Fred. HADAD i brought him back
<v Speaker 3>From california On. Tuesday he is scheduled for a pre
<v Speaker 3>trial detention Hearing. Friday if, Convicted peter could face up
<v Speaker 3>two twenty years in, prison finds of up to two
<v Speaker 3>hundred and sixty thousand dollars and the loss of licenses
<v Speaker 3>to operate his string of adult night. Clubs the indictment
<v Speaker 3>also requests the forfeiture of Thee. Dollhouse, now we would
<v Speaker 3>sell the assets and the proceeds would go back to the,
<v Speaker 3>public SAID us Attorney. Kendall these fucking, Names Kendall, Coffee Kendall,
<v Speaker 3>coffee Fucking Fred, Hadad, Natali rachici And Laurana. SNOW i,
<v Speaker 3>mean it sounds like we're in a fucking crime. Novel
<v Speaker 3>perfect it's so. Hilarious That's. Florida. Yep the club at
<v Speaker 3>thirty five sixty One North Federal highway represents quote mob
<v Speaker 3>infiltration of adult entertainment In Broward. County coffee, said this
<v Speaker 3>is a classic example of infiltration Of La casa nostra.
<v Speaker 3>Okay peter was acquitted in nineteen ninety one on state
<v Speaker 3>charges of extortion and kidnapping stemming from a case where
<v Speaker 3>he alleged kidnapped where he alleged, ALLEGEDLY i think kidnapped
<v Speaker 3>a competitor and threatened. Him under a federal, law he
<v Speaker 3>can be charged again in connection with the same. Case attorney's,
<v Speaker 3>Response we'll do the same thing we did last. Time
<v Speaker 3>we'd go to go to trial and let a jury.
<v Speaker 3>Decide dodd said took. Them took them less than an
<v Speaker 3>hour to. Decide in late nineteen ninety, three a magazine
<v Speaker 3>profile Of peter said his erotic empire included more than
<v Speaker 3>fifty clubs, worldwide employing five thousand. People authority Said peter
<v Speaker 3>And rachichi were co conspirators in a campaign that included,
<v Speaker 3>extortion threats and. Violence at, times a person making the
<v Speaker 3>threats As Michael. Peter other times It's richichi they were
<v Speaker 3>confederates in crime get ready us. Charges among other, things
<v Speaker 3>the indictment states That peter concealed silent partners in the
<v Speaker 3>business might they, be that he concealed, money and that
<v Speaker 3>he defrauded the government by not reporting sales. Revenue the
<v Speaker 3>extortion charges in the indictment include the. Following january ninet ninety,
<v Speaker 3>One peter allegedly used physical violence against Competitors Charles, Fritz
<v Speaker 3>Charles friedsen And carmen Kin Kin, seruli and kidnapped Kin.
<v Speaker 3>Serui the two were partners In Features, entertainment which competed
<v Speaker 3>With peter's. Business authority. Said january ninet eighty, Nine peter
<v Speaker 3>allegedly Threatened Lisa Bradford eton to keep her from collecting a.
<v Speaker 3>Debt he, owed CAN i ask you to, PAUSE i
<v Speaker 3>ask you to brace yourself and ask you to conclude
<v Speaker 3>your reading with this bullet point. Okay march ninet eighty,
<v Speaker 3>Seven peter allegedly used physical violence Against charles White bridges
<v Speaker 3>And William, grant owners of The Treasure Island.
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<v Speaker 3>Jp Sorow Miami Harold july twenty, four two thousand and.
<v Speaker 3>Two M miami Attorney Dino gallardi closed His brickel. Practice
<v Speaker 3>he now works At Treasure, island a strip joint In.
<v Speaker 3>Hilijah gallardi forty four is house counsel For Charles Whitey, Bridges,
<v Speaker 3>yes who Owns Treasure island and other INVESTMENT i Know
<v Speaker 3>brian a career, Move garaldi, says would you rather spend
<v Speaker 3>your day around naked women or? Lawyers Initially bridges brought
<v Speaker 3>him in to handle some, lawsuits settled. Them gallardi Says
<v Speaker 3>bridges gave him a full time. Job great not to
<v Speaker 3>have to wear a monkey, suit Says, Gallardi oh my,
<v Speaker 3>god what a fucking. Idiot son of Former Miami Dade
<v Speaker 3>circuit Judge John gale seventy. Six nice not having a
<v Speaker 3>wake up to an argument every, day arguing for people
<v Speaker 3>who don't want to pay. You at the, End gallardi
<v Speaker 3>and his Wife stephanie have three. Sons he strolls past
<v Speaker 3>totally nude women day in and day out and grabs
<v Speaker 3>lunch at the bar and as they dance suggestively no.
<v Speaker 3>Temptation i'm a happily married, man And i'm the envy
<v Speaker 3>of all my. Friends Whitey bridges From Anchor club To
<v Speaker 3>Treasure island to mob shakedowns apparent, allegedly, allegedly allegedly loo
<v Speaker 3>come out must be fair. Recently what Mean Whitens, Bridges,
<v Speaker 3>WHITINGS i, know shit his Pants. Bridges it's. Fine this
<v Speaker 3>all is a fact pattern that suggests that nothing illicit
<v Speaker 3>was going on, there Which i'm glad to. Test, Yeah, I'm,
<v Speaker 3>I'm I'm i'm wondering where the news is, HERE i.
<v Speaker 3>Said facebook group About Cocoa beach kind of put out
<v Speaker 3>a call after the passing Of Terry. BOLLA i was,
<v Speaker 3>like you remember for a short time he he was
<v Speaker 3>here In Cocoa beach and worked at The Anchor. Club
<v Speaker 3>from What i've, Read, wow someone, responded The Anchor club
<v Speaker 3>was fairly dark place, inside with rooms going in several
<v Speaker 3>directions and the band on the wall right next to the. Entrance,
<v Speaker 3>yes while he was at the door late at night
<v Speaker 3>at some of the back tables there was some uh
<v Speaker 3>huh hanky panky going on under. Them uh it. Was,
<v Speaker 3>yes that kind of. Place your damn fucking right was hanky?
<v Speaker 3>Panky mm. Hmm any thoughts on hanky? Panky, WELL i,
<v Speaker 3>listen we've we've Witnessed terrence's uh you, know his a
<v Speaker 3>little hanky pankies on. Camera, uh, oh give, it give,
<v Speaker 3>us give it to, us. Head you want to really
<v Speaker 3>rev your engines on hanky Pink please give it to.
<v Speaker 3>Me there we. Go please paint that final mosaic so
<v Speaker 3>we can better understand The Anchor. Club we only worked
<v Speaker 3>at the bar for a short. Time while we were
<v Speaker 3>working at The Anchor, club we rented in an apartment
<v Speaker 3>just two miles down the road In Cape, Canaveral. Bahama
<v Speaker 3>mama helped us furnish the whole place for pennies on the.
<v Speaker 3>Dollar it wasn't very, fancy but it was a good
<v Speaker 3>place to crash and bring an occasional date too from
<v Speaker 3>time to. Time not like that was happening all that,
<v Speaker 3>much wink. Wink The Anchor club was. Happening whitey's plan
<v Speaker 3>had worked and we had a very popular place on our.
<v Speaker 3>Hands we had bands and. Dancing the hard rock music
<v Speaker 3>went hand in hand with the whole, sex drugs and
<v Speaker 3>rock and roll vibe that we created and that made
<v Speaker 3>us very big on the singles. Scene people would go
<v Speaker 3>to our bar if they were looking to hook. Up
<v Speaker 3>that made it easy for me And terry to find.
<v Speaker 3>Chicks after, all we were the rock stars of the, bar.
<v Speaker 1>The.
<v Speaker 3>Bet one, night When Cocoa beach was throwing its annual surfing,
<v Speaker 3>contest a bunch of girls came in after a bikini.
<v Speaker 3>Contest the bar was already packed shoulder to shoulder with
<v Speaker 3>some of the hottest girls, around but then it then
<v Speaker 3>in came these. Contestants these girls were. Ridiculous they were
<v Speaker 3>the hottest girls you ever saw in, town just for spring,
<v Speaker 3>break and they would do just about anything for. Attention
<v Speaker 3>there was a tall blonde that had my eye from
<v Speaker 3>the moment she walked through the. Door she didn't have
<v Speaker 3>big boobs or, anything but she was smoking. Hot she
<v Speaker 3>probably about two years younger than, me or SO i
<v Speaker 3>would say she was. Eighteen she had blonde hair with
<v Speaker 3>just a tint of, red perfect. Lips she was a real.
<v Speaker 3>Knockout we got to talking and she explained to me
<v Speaker 3>that she explained to me what she did to win
<v Speaker 3>the bikini contest hands. Down could you show me the, Move,
<v Speaker 3>WOW i, Asked she. Nodded we positioned ourselves in the.
<v Speaker 3>CORNER a little has to not give the whole bar a. Show,
<v Speaker 3>boom two scrumptious boobs right in my. Face, Hey, Terry
<v Speaker 3>i'll say there are a problem over. Here terry was
<v Speaker 3>mixing someone to drink when he but when he looked,
<v Speaker 3>up he knew exactly WHY i was calling. Him he
<v Speaker 3>was over to our corner and probably in less than thirty,
<v Speaker 3>seconds you don't mind showing my man that move to your.
<v Speaker 3>Sweetheart boom. Boom it was Obvious terry's eyes bugged out
<v Speaker 3>of his. Head he had to be. EXCITED i knew.
<v Speaker 3>THAT i knew. THAT i know THAT i was hulking
<v Speaker 3>up in my. Pants by the, way COULD i just
<v Speaker 3>for for reasons that are becoming. Clear highly Recommend burtis
<v Speaker 3>Beef cake's. Book check it. Out, okay tell him my lapse, Fan,
<v Speaker 3>Sanya oh my, GOD i know THAT i was hulking
<v Speaker 3>up in my, pants probably seven or eight years before
<v Speaker 3>Hul cogan would even be. Invented she was a. Knockout
<v Speaker 3>she was. Great she was pretty, girl just starting, college
<v Speaker 3>and she loved to mix it up with the. Boys thank.
<v Speaker 3>You she became a bit of a celebrity there for
<v Speaker 3>winning the. Contest she started coming back every night or
<v Speaker 3>so and became one of our regulars for a. Time
<v Speaker 3>she was a big time flirt with, everyone but really
<v Speaker 3>poured things on thick with me And terry like you
<v Speaker 3>wouldn't believe Lessen, TERRY i said one, night closing up
<v Speaker 3>after having a few drinks. Myself she's my. Girl, no,
<v Speaker 3>no he, said, laughing wiping down the bar with a white.
<v Speaker 3>TOWEL i think you're. Mistaken oh you Think i'm, WRONG i,
<v Speaker 3>joked picking up leftover bottles and cups off a. TABLE
<v Speaker 3>i met you twenty dollars that she ends up with.
<v Speaker 3>Me you're on. Prolther terry pulled the string on one
<v Speaker 3>of the. Lights twenty bucks, TWENTY i, said with a
<v Speaker 3>Big Mega powers handshake to seal the. Deal it was.
<v Speaker 3>Official twenty dollars was on the line to see who
<v Speaker 3>could pin The Cocoa Beach champion. First she seemed to
<v Speaker 3>always show up when the place was. Packed whenever she
<v Speaker 3>came into the, bar everyone and everything would stop because
<v Speaker 3>she was so gorgeous that their dicks all got. Hard
<v Speaker 3>let's be, clear let's be. Clear, yeah, yes, Indeed terry
<v Speaker 3>would be bartending and couldn't always give her the attention
<v Speaker 3>she craved because of all the. Customers WHENEVER i saw, her,
<v Speaker 3>HOWEVER i was working the, door SO i would just
<v Speaker 3>work her too with small. Talk terry would try as
<v Speaker 3>hard as to pick her. Up but of course she
<v Speaker 3>liked me just a little bit more BECAUSE i was
<v Speaker 3>able to put the time in with her that she.
<v Speaker 3>Demanded one, night it was, late the place was pretty
<v Speaker 3>much cleared out but The cocoa, beach but bikini bikini
<v Speaker 3>champion was still running. WILD i want to say a keyword,
<v Speaker 3>there and what you just read demand is, yes oh fuck.
<v Speaker 3>Yes listen she won the bikini. Contest she doesn't she
<v Speaker 3>doesn't Have she, doesn't you, know make. Requests she doesn't want,
<v Speaker 3>things she demands them and she gets. Them all. RIGHT
<v Speaker 3>i was still worrying about burning the midnight oil with
<v Speaker 3>the last twenty to thirty people in the. Bar just
<v Speaker 3>before closing, time she started getting extra, frisky Right she
<v Speaker 3>was both grabbing my ass and running behind the bar
<v Speaker 3>to mess With terry while he was mixing. Drinks eventually
<v Speaker 3>she let us know her. Intentions what would those. Be
<v Speaker 3>she said she wasn't going to leave until she got
<v Speaker 3>what she. Wanted she was greedy. Too this is so great.
<v Speaker 3>QUOTE i want both of, you she whispered in her.
<v Speaker 4>Ear what.
<v Speaker 1>That?
<v Speaker 3>Means you want Whole cogan And Terry, bolea not you
<v Speaker 3>Want Brude. Zodiac NOW i was totally into pro. Wrestling
<v Speaker 3>but there was no WAY i was tag teaming With.
<v Speaker 3>Terry she want what does she want? Again just quickly
<v Speaker 3>what she said to, Them she, SAID i want both
<v Speaker 3>of you anchor club m, hm go. Ahead but there
<v Speaker 3>was no WAY i was tag teaming With. Terry that would,
<v Speaker 3>come that wouldn't come until, later and then it would
<v Speaker 3>be in a ring, somewhere not with some chick in
<v Speaker 3>the back of the. BAR i only have two rules in.
<v Speaker 3>Life one never engage in a devil's threesome and two
<v Speaker 3>never ordered double pickles At subway From. Jared if you
<v Speaker 3>know What i'm, saying moving, on that's not, him that's not.
<v Speaker 3>Him that's that's stuff like that in the book so.
<v Speaker 3>Stupid i'm not a fan of, it but you know,
<v Speaker 3>whatever he's having. Fun as it turned, out taking turns
<v Speaker 3>was totally acceptable to. Her Wow, Jesus so then in my,
<v Speaker 3>mind the game was on get her, first that's. Correct
<v Speaker 3>there were a few last drink drink stragglers on. Hand
<v Speaker 3>terry AND i quickly started to shut off all the
<v Speaker 3>neon beer lights and closed down the fort because because
<v Speaker 3>there were still customers paying their, bills and BECAUSE i
<v Speaker 3>was much sexier Than. Terry let's face, IT i mean
<v Speaker 3>he is beefcake after.
<v Speaker 10>All.
<v Speaker 3>Right, absolutely she took me by the. Hand we disappeared
<v Speaker 3>out of side me. First yeah damn, It terry, yelled
<v Speaker 3>holding up his hand in a fist while cashing out
<v Speaker 3>someone at the. REGISTER i laughed. Loudly the door closed behind,
<v Speaker 3>me but then other things and me opened. Up NOW
<v Speaker 3>i was no way In. July i'd been with the girls,
<v Speaker 3>before but this this one was, different very. Different she
<v Speaker 3>was very. Vocal when we started fooling, around she started
<v Speaker 3>moaning really. Loud she was practically screaming BEFORE i had
<v Speaker 3>even really touched. HER i stopped. Everything, OKAY i could picture, that,
<v Speaker 3>Man oh CAN i picture, that Ed? LESLIE i, asked
<v Speaker 3>worrying that she was going to call the police or. Something,
<v Speaker 3>yeah that never happened At Anchor. Club, yeah not at.
<v Speaker 3>All couldn't be Better she said that was just.
<v Speaker 4>It she was a.
<v Speaker 3>Screamer that was her. Thing shouting at the top of
<v Speaker 3>her lungs was supposed to quote intensify her sexual. Experience
<v Speaker 3>she must have really wanted to optimize our. Session, HOWEVER
<v Speaker 3>i practically needed earplugs BEFORE i even at to second.
<v Speaker 3>Base when we were, finished she told me to go
<v Speaker 3>Get terry because it was his. TURN i couldn't wait
<v Speaker 3>to see to see his face and bust his. CHOPS
<v Speaker 3>i shut the door behind me and walked back over
<v Speaker 3>to the bar to tag Out. TERRY i. Called looking
<v Speaker 3>around the Bar terry and it had only been about ten,
<v Speaker 3>minutes but now the whole place was a ghost. Town
<v Speaker 3>the lights were, off the stools were on the, tables
<v Speaker 3>the floor was. Swept there was not a soul to be.
<v Speaker 3>FOUND i walked over to the. Window terry's van was,
<v Speaker 3>gone AND i would be walking home that. Night it
<v Speaker 3>turned out That Cocoa Beach bikini contest champion was such
<v Speaker 3>a screamer that Come terry's, turn he must have heard
<v Speaker 3>us through the door and tapped. Out the screaming was
<v Speaker 3>almost too intimidating for even me to be on my,
<v Speaker 3>game SO i understood why he was. Gone AS i
<v Speaker 3>turned around to head back to the room for a,
<v Speaker 3>REMATCH i noticed something funny and had to. Laugh there
<v Speaker 3>was a twenty dollars bill on the. Table Anchor, Club Anchor.
<v Speaker 3>Club they're out of, nowhere brother book. One things started
<v Speaker 3>to go. Sour mm White whitey had a girlfriend and
<v Speaker 3>anh and he married, her and as soon as they got,
<v Speaker 3>married she started to resent the idea of White he's
<v Speaker 3>hanging out with. Us why are those guys your, pals
<v Speaker 3>she asked, him they're half your. Age and she took
<v Speaker 3>a look at the gym and saw that it wasn't
<v Speaker 3>making any. Money uh oh, no not on the front
<v Speaker 3>end at. Least the reason it wasn't making any money
<v Speaker 3>was that we were too hard headed to let the girls.
<v Speaker 3>Train there no women. Period whitey's And terrors was a hardcore, bodybuilding,
<v Speaker 3>deadlifting sweat your ass off type. Him we were of
<v Speaker 3>the mind that if you let girls in the, place
<v Speaker 3>you can't cuss and sweat and drop it weight on the. Floor,
<v Speaker 3>now would it makes sense to emphasize that we never
<v Speaker 3>let women. In if the one woman you went let
<v Speaker 3>in Was Bahama, mama wouldn't that kind of throw the
<v Speaker 3>scent off the trail of whatever it was That Bahama
<v Speaker 3>mama was. Facilitating, yes of, course that was before the
<v Speaker 3>ear with every strip mall had A Bally's Health spa
<v Speaker 3>Or european Hell. Spa if we had seen those kinds of,
<v Speaker 3>gyms we might have changed our minds and still been
<v Speaker 3>a business brother with his wife talking in his ear
<v Speaker 3>all the. Time whitey finally gave. In he told me
<v Speaker 3>he was going to Close whitey's And terry's and get
<v Speaker 3>out of the gym. Business, oh by the, way he
<v Speaker 3>was going to sell The Anchor club. Too so all
<v Speaker 3>of a sudden Ed leslie AND i were out of.
<v Speaker 3>Work but looking, BACK i thank god that had happened that,
<v Speaker 3>way because If whitey hadn't closed The Anchor club in the,
<v Speaker 3>GYM i might have never gone back to. Wrestling mm.
<v Speaker 3>Hm so according to, him And leslie has a similar
<v Speaker 3>story in his, book The Anchor club closed after all
<v Speaker 3>these heady times and all this sex and perversity and
<v Speaker 3>violence Because whitey got married and needed to mature and move.
<v Speaker 3>On that was the only reason he needed to leave the.
<v Speaker 3>Club and there was no other. REASON i, mean that's
<v Speaker 3>WHY i, closed, right of, COURSE i, mean that's that's
<v Speaker 3>what that's what you believe when you see hull coviin.
<v Speaker 3>Story but what about Hull cogn's other story that he
<v Speaker 3>posted somewhat unsolicited in twenty sixteen On. Facebook picture him
<v Speaker 3>And Freddy blassie And New york and he's recalling me
<v Speaker 3>And Freddy blassie's Shaved tornado on my. Chest new boots
<v Speaker 3>HEIGHTS i just bought BECAUSE i quit wrestling for a
<v Speaker 3>year to run a, bar The Anchor, club In Cocoa, Beach,
<v Speaker 3>florida and also had a gym Called whitey And Terry's
<v Speaker 3>gym the. Cops terry wrote gracefully asked me to leave.
<v Speaker 4>Town what.
<v Speaker 3>And that's where he leaves. It but before white he
<v Speaker 3>closed up, shot before he threw in the, towel before
<v Speaker 3>he decided That whitey And Terry's Olympic gym wasn't going
<v Speaker 3>to High, Heights before he decided that The Anchor club
<v Speaker 3>the party wouldn't always be. On he had one last
<v Speaker 3>attempt to keep the doors, open one last attempt to
<v Speaker 3>remake the club's. Image he hired a new, manager someone
<v Speaker 3>who he had come to know just as well as
<v Speaker 3>he had come to Know Terry beleaya And Ned. Leslie
<v Speaker 3>there's one guy who had a shot at managing The Anchor.
<v Speaker 3>Club this comes From florida, today nineteen seventy, eight After
<v Speaker 3>terry apparently had already started making his way out of.
<v Speaker 3>Town Anchor Club Coco. Beach for some, reason The Space
<v Speaker 3>coast has had a grand opening or reopening of a
<v Speaker 3>nightclub a restaurant every week for the past several. Weeks
<v Speaker 3>this week is no. Exception The Anchor, club located at
<v Speaker 3>the very end OF. Sr five to Twenty causeway In Coco,
<v Speaker 3>beach has been in business for six, years but has
<v Speaker 3>been closed for the past several days for a complete
<v Speaker 3>remodeling inside and. Out when it has its grand reopening,
<v Speaker 3>tonight there will be a new look and a total
<v Speaker 3>change in. Policy Partners Ed reuters And White bridges have
<v Speaker 3>redone the interior and A mediterranean nautical theme with dark,
<v Speaker 3>woods wrought iron, chandeliers fishnet and shell wall, decor mirrored,
<v Speaker 3>walls and thick beage. Carpeting the bar has been rebuilt
<v Speaker 3>into a LARGE l shape and is probably on the
<v Speaker 3>largest in the. County the dance floor has been enlarged
<v Speaker 3>in the stage has been made, bigger carpeted and draped
<v Speaker 3>and red seating for the room is about two hundred
<v Speaker 3>and seventy. Five, outside there are new massive entrance, doors,
<v Speaker 3>planters and the sidewalk is covered with astro. Turf along
<v Speaker 3>with the, facelift there is a complete policy. CHANGE. Mmm Don,
<v Speaker 3>wilson A cocoa native who is tended bar here for several,
<v Speaker 3>years has been named the new. Manager he explained that
<v Speaker 3>when the club first, opened it catered to both the
<v Speaker 3>younger and older, sets but later became more youth. Oriented
<v Speaker 3>the new entertainment policy will be geared once again to
<v Speaker 3>capture the two. Markets, yes that's, right just As Terry
<v Speaker 3>boleya is Exiting Cocoa beach taking the helm as manager
<v Speaker 3>of The Anchor. CLUB a star of stage and, scres
<v Speaker 3>eleven time world kickboxing, Champion don The Dragon. Wilson, wow
<v Speaker 3>you Know Don. Wilson i'm. Familiar, yes he did a
<v Speaker 3>movie With Roddy piper one time Called Terminal. Rush, yes
<v Speaker 3>he Did Coming soon under The. CINNEMENT i THINK i
<v Speaker 3>THINK i did buy that one in a DOUBLE dvd. Set,
<v Speaker 3>HONESTLY i THINK i bought That, yeah somewhere. Here he
<v Speaker 3>was the leader of The Neon gang And Batman. Forever,
<v Speaker 3>yes ough he was coming. Sooner star of the Blood fist,
<v Speaker 3>series a series of martial arts films in the film
<v Speaker 3>of in the style of Blood. Sport, Yeah i'm not
<v Speaker 3>familiar with those ones as, much but, yes he did
<v Speaker 3>a fight commentary at THE ufc seven pay per. View
<v Speaker 3>he's in The International Sports hall Of. Fame he's one
<v Speaker 3>of the most celebrated and accomplished kickboxers In american. History
<v Speaker 3>but before all of, that as he posted On, facebook nineteen,
<v Speaker 3>SEVENTIES i was the manager of The Anchor club And
<v Speaker 3>terry aka Hul cogan worked for me as a. Bartender,
<v Speaker 3>yes it was known as The Disco, era and we
<v Speaker 3>all partied every. Night it was our he, writes quote
<v Speaker 3>unquote job And Whitey, bridges the, owner was the best
<v Speaker 3>BOSS i ever. Had it was all several lifetimes, ago
<v Speaker 3>BUT i still have many of the same friends and
<v Speaker 3>see them WHENEVER i returned To Brevard. County if these
<v Speaker 3>walls could, talk, Hello it's is. Done, yeah this is.
<v Speaker 3>Done that's next time On The Complete Hogan milan as A.
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