1090: A Questionable Quarterback Class

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Speaker 1: This is the Late Podcast with your host JJ zacherthas J J Zachertha. What's up everyone, It's JJ Zachariesen in this episode ten ninety of the Late Round Fantasy Football Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for tuning in, you guys.

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Speaker 1: Hear My takes on prospects all the time this time of year, whether it's on the podcast or in the Prospect Guide, which by the way, that's available right now over on Lateround dot com.

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Speaker 2: Get on that. So to change things up a bit, not only do I have Late Round.

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Speaker 1: Perspectives as part of the rotation these days, but I've always brought on guests this time of year for specific positional shows, and that's where we're at in the calendar right now.

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Speaker 2: Today we're talking quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: We've got running backs next week and then wide receivers the week after. But to help me with the quarterback discussion, I brought on my friend Alfredo Brown. Alfredo's the owner of Pretend GM Fantasy Football. He's got the Pretend GM Rookie Draft Guide out right now. He brings a unique perspective to the fantasy football space with a scouting background, and he brought the heat in this interview. We talked about the quarterback class as a whole, and we discussed some surprising, high upside picks that you may want to make in your rookie drafts this year. So, without further ado, here's my chat with Alfredo Brown. Alfredo, You've got a prospect guide, man, look at you out on your own, doing your own thing.

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Speaker 2: You have a prospect guide.

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Speaker 1: Talk about that guide before we get into everything, because I think this is a way for you to explain to folks sort of what your process is like, what you do, what your background is. Because I've said this many times before, and you've been on the show plenty of times before, but I think your background is a lot more unique compared to a lot of other fantasy football anaists out there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I mean just just letting anybody make a guide nowadays, so I figured, sure, why I'll just do one too. But yeah, I mean it started the Pretend GM Fantasy Football Show, and I've got the PRETENDGM dot com website now that comes with to Pretend GM Rookie Draft Guide. I actually got my start back in college working for the FIU football team, and I got to do that as an intern and then got to be working in the scouting department, and like, so it's one of those things I always keep as the feather in my cap of like I was the guy that wrote the scouting report for John hus Smith, Like his career is because of me. You know, It's it's one of those cool things I can always look back at. But when I wanted to make a guide, like I want to do something it's a little bit different and do a little bit of more of like what I talk about in like in writing for movies or shows. It is this show don't tell right, Like anyone can just do rankings and be like, hey, this is the best quarterback, is the best running back, but like let's show why. And so I wanted to get a little bit more into that process. So a lot of what I do in here is kind of define what the scouting terms are, why they matter, what matters most when I'm scouting these players, Like what goes into that. It's not just this guy's good. Trust me, bro, Like I get a little bit more into that analysis. And you know, I'll even give some examples. It's like why I will give the edge to one player over another, And a lot of it gets lost in Draft season two is like, there's a lot of people that love the NFL draft, and there's a lot of people who work on the football not fantasy side of things, about football side of things, and they'll say, like, this player is great for the NFL, right, but that doesn't make that player good for fantasy. And so it's like what separates that, And so I wanted to do that with a guide. And I've got some consensus rankings in there for myself and some other companies in the industry like Draft Sharks and Fantasy Pros. I've got injury reports that are going to be in there from doctor Vignas Doorswami, like he wrote up a whole thing on Jordan Tyson because everyone keeps calling him this injury prone player. And then I love player comps. I wanted to do something a little different instead of just like here's one player camp. I wanted to do a sort of like low median high player camp that like works for fantasies. Here's a mix of their athletic profile and size, some metrics that stand out, what I see on film, and who that most correlates to from a fantasy production standpoint. So, like I want to just put a lot of cool things in there, man, And I've been having a great time making this, hand crafting. It's arteasingly organically crafted this, Every single page of this by me, and there's gonna be five different versions of it. Version three comes out on Monday. I'm not sure when this episode is coming out, but pre order price for now nine ninety nine. It's gonna be on pretend gm dot com slash guide, and it's always gonna be on my Twitter as well, off rado A Brown. So yeah, got version three of the guide coming out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that what you mentioned about sort of the goal of the prospecting is important because again, we're inundated with all these mock drafts and all these draft analysts right now on social media. Especially if you're listening to the show right now, you're a diehard, right so you are probably immersing yourself in a lot of that type of content, and the people that you're reading are often going to be actual real NFL draft analysts, not draft analysts who are looking at this from the with the lens of of fantasy football.

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Speaker 2: And there is a difference, you know, Like I think.

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Speaker 1: For and this is a quarterback show, but I'll just throw this out there maybe. I mean, you can definitely chime in, But like I think Carneal Tit is awesome, but I think that there's a difference between and I think mackay Lemon is awesome.

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Speaker 2: I think they're both great. But I would argue.

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Speaker 1: That even if Tate might look better in consensus or if he goes earlier in the draft, there might be a like like, McKay lemon is the high volume kind of player that we love in fantasy football, right like that This is the easy just example and go to for me. While Carnel Tait might be a better and real football type of player, he's still gonna be good in fantasy I think, don't get me wrong, but you know this for the ceiling outcome. I mean, the guy even in college didn't reach a twenty two percent target share in a season, you know. And it's not to say that that's impossible to happen in the NFL. It's just to say that there are different missions and objectives in what we're doing here. And Tate does look better right now in the model than Makaie Lemon does. But it's that nuance of understanding, Okay, this might work better from a real life football perspective, and that's why you're hearing him get drafted and go where he's going. And you know, we could argue that quarterback is probably the biggest disparity in different there because we know that mobility is so important at the position in fantasy, but that's not as nearly important as just being a good quarterback and a good passer to real actual NFL teams, Right, So I'm sure that. I mean, that's been a hard problem for me with modeling quarterback and why I don't have a quarterback model right now, because it's just really hard to kind of like meet that, you know, analytically and figure that all out.

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Speaker 3: That's been one of the things that's that for myself too, has been very hard even when you're scouting, because you're trying to see how these things translate to fantasy and one of the easiest things to sort of like rest my hat on is does this guy have tools? And that's that worked for me last year with Tyler Shuck where it's like, yeah, everyone's making the jokes that he's like thirty seven years old and he's had fourteen injuries, but like, dude had tools, He had the size, he had the arm strength, he had mobility, he had all these things that kind of worked. And like that's sort of what I keep resting my hat on is like going back to does this player have tools? And like one of the big things I'll talk about today's like can they work outside of structure when like everything goes bad?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Well let's talk about this quarterback class.

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Speaker 1: I think the consensus right now would say this is a week class. I don't think that this is like Kenny Pickett QB one week, but you know it's it's definitely a weaker class overall. Would you agree with that assessment? And how do you think this this stacks up to recent memory? Like is this the worst class since that class?

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Speaker 3: I think so? Yeah, Like I don't. I don't think it's better than last year's class with like cam or dark Shuck. That's actually it's funny you mentioned the picket class, Like that's the class I sort of bring up here is I think we probably get one, maybe two quarterbacks that become starters out of this whole thing. And the funny thing with like the picket class was that it ended up being Brock Purdy, the seventh rounder and Malik Willis yea who it took so many years for it to happen, like it was not any of the guys that got drafted super early and got starting jobs early. The way I set up my QB tiers here is I sort of have like the Dynasty cornerstone players, anyone like it's a ninety or above in my one hundred point great scale. Here there's no one there, and then I have Fernando Mendoza and the starter tier which is eighty to eighty nine, and he's just barely there at an eighty two. So I think we're probably looking at like two guys that become starters. There's potential for a third, and I think that's all going to depend on where they land, which I know is kind of the easy way out. But yeah, it's it's not a great quarterback class.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look, we're feeling more confident than that for other classes, so that that's pretty telling that you know, it's just not a strong class in general. You mentioned Mendoza, you know, as the as the consensus QB one in this class at this point. You have him at QB one as well, but talk about him as a player, like what does he do well? Where does he need to work and do some more work on And you know, it sounds like he's gonna go one oh one, So like do you anticipate him fitting well enough into that situation in Vegas too?

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Speaker 3: I mean, first, I think he's kind of the poster child for what has changed with quarterback in in college football over the years. It's like the game has just been built around make easy throws. Do a lot of like quick throws, one read throws, RPO based stuff like we're not gonna have you read a full field. And that's a lot of the things that sort of bother me when it comes to Mendoz. He does a lot of things great, Like he's got he's already got the size you want from a Quarterback's way bigger than I expect, six four, two thirty six. He did not look like that on film. He's probably gained weight for the combine, but he's deadly accurate on throws the outside, the numbers, comebacks, out routes, back shoulder throws, like really a lot of back shoulder throws. And he's just a strong rhythm passer. The thing is like when that rhythm is not there, That's when I get worried. I want to see him get past his first read more often. Can he do the things where he hits throws over the middle of the field. I think he's going to the perfect situation for that with Clint Kubiak and everything he got to do with Sam Darnold last year, because what Clint Kuback likes to do is if it is going to be that one read, he's gonna get that one read on the move. He's gonna make things easier for that quarterback. He's going to trim down the amount of reads the quarterback has to make, and he's gonna get that quarterback in play action. And the Raiders are almost perfectly built for that, where it's like you have to respect to run with Ashton gent T, and that top target is going to be Brock Bowers, who's gonna be the biggest and potentially fastest pass catcher on the field at any given time. So we're we're saying, Okay, this is actually a pretty good scenario for him to go into. I do get worried though, like, yeah, they added they added Tyler Linderbaum. If I'm not mistaken, right at center, the offense line is a little bit better, it's still not a great offensive line. And that's where Fernando Mendoza struggles the most, is dealing with that pressure.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, your analysis with uh, you know the structure and when structure breaks down, where does he go?

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Speaker 2: What does he do? It sounds very Jared Goffe.

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Speaker 1: Is that the comp in the direction that you went with with the comps for Mendoza?

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Speaker 3: That is the exact comp that I have.

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Speaker 1: That's always been the That's always been the critique with Gough, right, like that's the in structure, he's phenomenal, but then whenever things break down, it's a little bit iff here.

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Speaker 3: I mean, go back to that draft class when Jared Goff was the top pick and we're like, eh, he's not that great, but he's the best quarterback this year and that it's sort of the same vibes. Like the comps that I have are from low, medium to hides is going to be Sam Bradford, Jared Goff, Matt Ryan. It's like accurate guys couldn't really extend the play or throw very well in the run, didn't have a lead arm strength, very linear athletes that like need to stay within a certain lane. I just I don't know that the upside is there from Mendoza in fantasy. I know he had touchdowns this year. Like being able to scramble a little bit in college is very different from what he's going to have to do in the NFL. I think he's got that size that if they get into a goal line scenario and he runs a QB sneak. Sure. Absolutely. The struggle here is that, like he just especially you go back to the Miami game, he really struggled to throw off platform. And that's one of those things that I really like to grade, is that like, can't and maybe this is me being a jaded Miami Dolphins fan, can a quarterback do this and keep all their top traits they have their accuracy or their arm strength, or their poise, whatever it is when things go bad, Because it's going to happen, especially for a rookie. We saw it with cam Ward. It's probably gonna happen for Mendoza with this Raiders offensive line. And when he went up against Miami and he had to get flushed out of the pocket, the arm strength was gone, The accuracy that's normally there was gone, and he kind of won on like just good old fashioned moxie, Like it was just it was a fun game, but it was not a very good game from him. It's like, those are the things that are still gonna worry me about Mendoza.

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Speaker 1: Is there rushing upside with him at all? Or is is this like because like I also have seen the could he be Joe Burrow kind of idea out there, and Burrow at least has brought some of that mobility at times, or at least has that in his back pocket, whereas you know, some of the other guys you mentioned, like Matt Ryan or Jared Goff just have not done that. I know these are just comps. I'm not trying to say that it's just like a one to one. You know, they haven't brought that to the table. So, but is there do you envision at least a little bit more of that Russian production, which obviously would then be better from a fantasy perspective than some of those guys.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I definitely think there can be a little bit more. I'm not going to say that he's a runner of any sort. I genuinely do not believe the Joe Burrow comps are fair. Yeah, we love to do this, like when someone gets in the ethos of like did you see how you finished the season? Though, And a lot of it is because he's one of seven quarterbacks to win the Heisman and win the national championship. Naturally it's going to happen. We're going to make those comps. But where mendoz is probably going to get you some rushing upside is he loves to just step up into the pocket and take off up the middle, and he'll genuinely he'll add, you know, fifteen twenty yards a game, and that's going to give you something. It's not going to be a total statue, but like, I just don't I don't see that top six upside type of pressure that's there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, better in superflex if you will, with a player like that. Ty Simpson seems to be the consensus QB too. Do you agree with that? Do you think his ceiling like is his ceiling higher than Mendozes. Obviously the big question mark is dude has not been playing very much and very long and doesn't have the experience side to things.

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Speaker 2: But talk to some people.

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Speaker 1: Dan Orlovsky, big big proponent of Simpson over Banana Mendoza right now. Do you see him though at Simpson as the consensus QB two, I do.

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Speaker 3: I have not gone full of Orlovsky yet but yet. Okay, I'm not going to. I'm not going. But I remember like hearing about these quarterbacks and hearing like, yeah, there's a massive gap. And then I watched the film. I'm like, actually, all, like, there's.

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Speaker 2: Not that big of a gap.

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Speaker 3: And then like I got told watch the later games. Watch the later games, he's much worse. And I'm like, oh, yeah, he is much worse. Like what what happened? Like what changed? And I start to look at it, it's yeah, it's these injuries. He piles up week eight, bulging disc in his back. Then he starts taking anti inflammatories and loses twenty pounds from gastritis, week thirteen, elbow bursitis, Week fifteen, fractured rib. And that's the Indiana game where everyone always brings up like Fernanda Mendoza beat him head to head, And I'm like, guys, I'm a podcaster. If I had even one of these things, I'm probably calling out of this show today, right, So, like I'm trying to add the context to that, But like there. I do think there is a ceiling there for Ty Simpson that could be better because he does a lot of those things that NFL coaches want out of quarterbacks. He makes a lot of those second level throws, meaning it's not gonna be near the line of scrimmage. He's able to make full reads across the field that we don't see Mendoza do often. And like one of the bigger things for me, Yeah, he didn't get a lot of his fifteen starts. It wasn't a lot of starts, but it's it's at Alabama. It's going up against Alabama's defense every day in practice, and then he sets all of his own protections at the line of scrimmage too. So like, there are a lot of things that I think work well. He's probably one of the best throwers of the football on the run, which I think works in that like McVeigh shanahan type offense like the Rams and Cardinals become really good fits for him. So if those become one of the teams that draft him, I already don't think the gap is very big, but I think that gap sort of closed a little bit because what Simpson's gonna need is a little bit of time to sit, maybe like a Drake May where he sits for like seven or eight weeks and just gets used to the speed of practice.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Interesting.

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Speaker 1: Next, there's there's sort of this big tier. You have five players kind of coming up next. NFL mock draft database has Gary Nusmeyer next with eighty first overall draft capital. You have him next as well, but obviously this is more tear based for you. Talk to me about him. Talk to me about nus Meyer.

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Speaker 3: He's I gotta be honest, he's kind of like the de facto QB three at this point because he's got like I'd say, he's probably got the least amount of red flags out of everyone else. But that doesn't give me a lot of confidence about the player. He's a very accurate timing passer. I actually dropped him a little bit in the latest version of the guide that came out because I always like to go back and do a re evaluation of each position every time the guide re releases. He just gets too frantic when the pressure gets there, and he becomes just like this checkdown guy, or he just doesn't quite know what to do and he'll take the sack. He's a lot like Mendoza, just smaller, slower, same thing, predetermined, reads a lot of that stuff. But I think the NFL is gonna like him because he got a lot of starts in the SEC. He's the son of a quarterback's coach, and like does all those things that people like. But I just think that for fantasy purposes, the upside's going to be limited. Like he's a he's not a good runner, he's not always a good thrower on the run or off platform. Like I think some of these guys like Cole Peyton or Kid Klubnick would have some more upside because of their rushing ability and their ability to extend plays. I found that the comp I have for him is to a tongue of my loa. He's great on time, He's very accurate, but man, it's my friend Jagger Mayle likes. I said, he's an orchid quarterback. He's got to have a perfect situation to thrive and grow, and if it's not there, it's just gonna die quick.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, well you mentioned Cole Peyton. He's kind of intriguing.

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Speaker 1: Deebro threw him out as sort of like his favorite sleeper type player, you know, in this class, he kind of got the stamp of approval from you and the guide.

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Speaker 2: I know that's more like value.

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Speaker 3: Based and such.

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Speaker 1: You're not saying that he's like the QB one in the class, but he's coming from North Dakota State. You know, he's a raw more of a raw prospect, smaller school. You know, I know that evaluating smaller school players at other positions is more difficult, just because you know, you don't like they should dominate, you know, they should look good on film because they're playing against weaker competition. What did you see from him that made you at least excited about what we might be able to see from him in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: So I'll start with at least the quarterback stuff, the passing stuff is that he's just really accurate and really poised sitting back there. And what I try to figure out is like, why is he so poised? Is he just naturally a gamer? Like is he that dude? Or is it because he really has just the one and run mentality. I have my one read and if it's not there, I can run, so I really don't have to worry about what's happening elsewhere. And that's sort of the thing that I want to look at here and listen. I don't know that he's going to become a starting quarterback in the NFL, and I don't know that a lot of these guys are. But there's sort of more the mentality of if it's not going to be for a long time, let's at least have a good time, and he can be sort of a Justin Fields esque quarterback that's going to give you that rushing upside. I get worried about all the things you mentioned. One year starter at FCS level, RPO, heavy offense, got the field in half, mechanics were super weird. But it looks like he's already improving that in his offseason workouts with his quarterback coach. I mean there's potential. I'm hearing stuff on lot, not that i'm hearing I'm not like an insider, but like reading stuff online that he could go Day two, in round.

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Speaker 2: Two or three.

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Speaker 3: If he goes Day two or in the same round as Nussmayer, I have every reason to put him ahead of Nusmayer as a better fantasy quarterback because the draft capital is going to say that he's more likely he's just as likely to get a shot to start a game, and he's got that rushing upside. He's got a strong arm, he's got the size. He's accurate, really accurate. Just can he make reads and do the things that an NFL quarterback needs to do.

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Speaker 2: What kind of high end comp do you have for Cole Payton?

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Speaker 3: It's kind of sexy. I'm not gonna lie, but I had to. I had to give a big range here. The high end comp was Jalen Hurts. Yeah, Okay, the low end comp goes all the way down to Tim Tebow, right, So like there's a wide range here for the guy where he could be really fun for a short period of time and he's like done with the league in one year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Or it's a guy who develops his accuracy continues to sort of blossom, he gets better at reading a field, and he gets put into a situation where a coach is going to bring him along slowly, and if someone spends day two capital, I feel like that is more likely to happen.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I remember bringing him up whenever I talked to Debro and then on that show I mentioned that he was an interesting like you know, later round Dart and Super Flex league's based on like what Debro was saying, just because I think it was his bold prediction piece with that, And then I went to keep trade cut to kind of see where he was being drafted because someone had responded, like comment wise was like, oh, he's going to be a second rounder in super Flex. I mean he's not even like listed in super flex rookie rankings right now on keep trade cut, like he's he's not like you can get him, and you're going to be able to get him more than likely like in the in the latter parts, you know, at least post round two in a super flex league. And to me, that's the kind of player that you do want to throw darts at, like we I know, I know it sounds crazy because we don't get very good hits from you know, date even Day two and later quarterbacks, But you're not gonna get great hits anyway from especially in this class at running back and wide receiver and such, you know, in round three and beyond, you might as well just like throw that dart.

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Speaker 3: It sounds like, yeah, man, I've got him in my ranking because as an early round three pick. Yeah, and like comparison, like I'm highest in my consensus rankings compared to fantasy pros in Draft Sharks, like they don't even have him as a top forty eight pick. And I'm just like, when I get to the third round, like, I'm what else am I taking a shot on? You know, a wide receiver who might catch two or three passes a game, or the quarterback who could break fantasy football with a thousand rushing yards?

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Speaker 1: Like taking that shot right, and you should have a decent idea of what you're gonna do with him. After a year one, you might just be burning that. That's fine, You're gonna be burning that pick with a.

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Speaker 3: Lot of Yeah, he's not rock for Klagger at that point.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly exactly.

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Speaker 1: You got three quarterbacks next in this grouping talk about them a little bit, give me a give me a big pro and con for club Nick.

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Speaker 2: You know you have Aller there, you have Carson Beck.

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Speaker 1: Talk about those three and where sort of that the good and the bad come with them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll talk about the guy I'm most excited about from this group, and it's Kye Club Nick. He just had this massive twenty twenty four season, thirty six touchdowns, almost six hundred rushing yards. What I love is that he has this athletic ability that extends plays, and I put a lot of value on that when I'm scouting quarterbacks, can they extend plays when things go wrong? And he had the second best pressure to sack ratio. He's a guy that had really impressive athletic ability on the field. He's able to run and beat a lot of defenders to the edge to go and pick up yardage. The problem is is that what he does extend the plays, it's not always a positive thing. Like I just don't think he quite has a plan yet. When he's doing that, he's not extending the play to make a good throw. He's extending the play to just not die from whoever's running in after him.

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Speaker 1: And he's doing what we do in backyard football exactly, trying to escape the big, fast guy that's coming at you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, and and so like with that, what happens is that when he does need to extend the play and take more time, the throws that he's doing downfield just aren't typically very successful, and so anything beyond fifteen yards becomes a little bit of a problem. And I know that sounds crazy. In a vacuum like that. But you're gonna see that with a lot of quarterbacks now because of the way college systems are, like, they're not asking quarterbacks to throw deep that often unless a guy just happens to be wide open, So a lot of these throws are shorter. So most of his career interceptions came when he tried to throw downfield, and we saw that last season as well. I comped them to Bo Nix, who there's like some rushing up side. That's the high end comp is, like there's some rushing upside, but also a guy who just threw a lot near the line of scrimmage. And if he ends up in that sort of Sean Payton offense where it can work, then it works. But if not, well, you know, we're just looking at another guy that's sitting on a bench somewhere.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what about the other two guys?

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Speaker 3: So with Drew Aller, he's got this rocket launcher of an arm. I think like, if if you were looking at him, he is the varsity Blues like varsity quarterback that you're just like, man, that guy six foot five, like two hundred and thirty pounds, big arm, everything. He just looks like a quarterback but I'm gona be honest, man, Like, he just almost never makes the right decision. Like I never see him successfully read an NFL defense, I never see him successfully escape pressure. One of my compson here was Will Levis because it's just it's a lot of the same things.

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Speaker 2: Big arch traits, yeah.

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Speaker 3: Physical traits yeah, but then like the football IQ stuff just doesn't seem to overlap very well. And then Carson Beck is sort of the good at everything, but like not great at anything. He just he has a lot of starts in college. We got to see him take Miami to the championship. A lot of that isn't on him. It was guys like Malachy Tony and the defense and everything there. So he's he's got the experience. I think he can be a good backup and a good spot starter. The problem is he's got like no rushing upside. It's not really a big arm. Like one of my comps from him was like high end Matt Schaub and it's like, you were never excited to draft Matt Shaw, but if you had to start him maybe in a super flex, you're like, okay, cool. But like there's Josh Rosen in his profile as well, like, there's just there's a lot of that. Yeah, I mean six years ran in college, isn't that. I mean he's he's an older dude, you know, he's been around. What was the thing that's like his wide receiver this year, Malakaye Tony the freshman was like eleven when when started college.

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Speaker 2: Like it's crazy. Yeah, yeah, that's pretty crazy. All right.

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Speaker 1: We talked a lot about a lot of quarterbacks. Of the guys that we haven't talked about, who do you think could be a surprise quarterback from this class?

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Speaker 3: I think would have to be the next guy in my rankings then, and it's Taylor Green, who, like I don't, I don't think he's this phenomenal quote back, but I mean, dude, if we're gonna look at upside, I think he's got as much upside as anyone. A near perfect relative athletics score. He's six six, two hundred and twenty seven pounds, runs a four to three, and has these incredible vertical and broad jumps. My comps, it's it's not gonna sound pretty to people, but it's fun. It's Taysom Hill, Trey Lance, Anthony Richardson, and that's kind of where we're at the problem is, like the guys like Trey Lance and Anthony Brigson, they didn't have a lot of starts in college, and coaches convinced themselves they do like the like what guys do, like I can fix her, like they I can fix these quarterbacks right, And it didn't work out, but they were first round picks. Taylor Green's not gonna be a first round pick, and a lot of that is because we saw him be a starter for four years. We kind of know who he is. But he is one of those guys that if he gets the opportunity to start somewhere, I can totally see him do a seven completions on eighteen attempts and ran for two touchdowns, And you were so happy you started him in fantasy and and do like sort of a Malik Willison Green Bay type thing, like it could absolutely happen. But there's gonna be there's gonna be a lot of things that need to go right to make that happen.

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Speaker 2: Alfredamn, this was great. I appreciate you hopping on.

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Speaker 1: Let every know where they can find you, where they can find that guide of yours and what you're up to.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you can always find me on any social media platform at Alfredo A. Brown and the guide is going to be over at preten GM dot com slash guide. You can also find the pretend GM Fantasy Football Show wherever you get your podcast YouTube, Apple, Spotify. It's a brand new feed, brand new show. You can easily binge you know, the like eight or nine episodes that are there, you can enjoy them. Some of them are pretty quick like yours. Then I'll do interviews like this as well. So yeah, the version three point zero of the Guy is gonna be coming out with the wide receivers on Monday, and then I'll have version four point zero with tight ends, the injury reports, all that stuff, and then the fifth update will be after the NFL Draft, so you can always keep an eye out for that.

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Speaker 2: Awesome man.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it as always, guys, check out Lateround dot com check out the Late Round Prospect Guide, which honestly both of our guides combined. It gives you two very very different perspectives on this stuff, so I think they complement each other very very well, So check it out Lateround dot Com will be back in your ears Wednesday with the Late Round Show and then We have a Mailbag episode later in the week.

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Speaker 2: As always everyone, thanks for tuning in