Top 5 Movies to Watch at Halloween: 1970s

<v Speaker 1>Hello everybody, and welcome back to the Shirley You Can't
<v Speaker 1>Be Serious podcast and Happy Halloween.
<v Speaker 2>Today we are talking about the top five movies to
<v Speaker 2>watch on Halloween from the seventies.
<v Speaker 1>From the seventies, this is another top five list because
<v Speaker 1>we love them so much. Next episode we will be
<v Speaker 1>talking about the top five movies to watch around Halloween
<v Speaker 1>in the eighties. Yes, and so I'm excited.
<v Speaker 3>Now.
<v Speaker 1>What's interesting about this particular scenario is we were both
<v Speaker 1>born in the seventies, right, so there wasn't a lot
<v Speaker 1>of slasher flicks that I was allowed to see between
<v Speaker 1>the ages of zero and five.
<v Speaker 2>I know it's a little bit tricky here, and we're
<v Speaker 2>gonna have some horror people out there that'll be like,
<v Speaker 2>how could you possibly leave this movie off your list? Well,
<v Speaker 2>we were too little, yeah, and we haven't really gone back.
<v Speaker 2>This is not our best genre.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So neither one of us are big horror fans.
<v Speaker 1>Like we appreciate them and we're familiar with them to
<v Speaker 1>some degree. But I mean, there are multiple podcasts devoted
<v Speaker 1>exclusively to horror, and if you're into that, you should
<v Speaker 1>go listen to those podcasts because we're not at But
<v Speaker 1>if you're just kind of into horror and you want
<v Speaker 1>to have some fun Halloween movies to talk about. We're
<v Speaker 1>the podcast for you.
<v Speaker 2>Hey, listen, I want you to go back in time
<v Speaker 2>with me, d to October thirty first, nineteen seventy eight.
<v Speaker 1>Ooh okay, hell, are you like I would have just
<v Speaker 1>turned three? Three? Okay, yeah, then let's go to seventy
<v Speaker 1>nine US four as a whole three.
<v Speaker 2>Just imagine with me, You're downstairs and your dad says,
<v Speaker 2>come downstairs, We're watching a scary movie. Lights are out,
<v Speaker 2>tells you to go manually turn the knob. These are
<v Speaker 2>the type of movies we're talking about today.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, back then, I think that our TV was still
<v Speaker 1>black and white, Like, we still had a black and
<v Speaker 1>white TV that we would watch. And I'll tell you this,
<v Speaker 1>one of my earliest memories. It didn't even dawn on
<v Speaker 1>me until you just said that just now. One of
<v Speaker 1>my very earliest memories is of going and watching a
<v Speaker 1>double feature in the seventies. Yeah, remember the seventies version
<v Speaker 1>of Dracula that came out. Yes, the guy had his
<v Speaker 1>face like when he was in the sun. It was
<v Speaker 1>like peeling off at the end.
<v Speaker 2>It was Franklin je it was it was him the
<v Speaker 2>bad guy from Dave Yes, and so I can remember
<v Speaker 2>seeing that as a Yes, younger than five year old kid.
<v Speaker 1>This was seventies, but it was a double feature with
<v Speaker 1>the movie that is going to be one of my
<v Speaker 1>picks tonight, and so I'm excited to talk about that.
<v Speaker 2>You know, I was a big fan of the Universal movies.
<v Speaker 2>So I watched the old Dracula, the old you know,
<v Speaker 2>Brida Frankenstein, you know, Creature from Black Lagoon, that type
<v Speaker 2>of stuff.
<v Speaker 1>Do you remember that there was like a movie about
<v Speaker 1>those universal movies, like and it had Dan Aykroy and
<v Speaker 1>Gilda Radner and a whole bunch of the Saturday Night
<v Speaker 1>Live and John Landis. I think Mike was all.
<v Speaker 2>Love that it's called it came from Hollywood.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's right, And so a lot of like I
<v Speaker 1>would see those things. I want to watch that movie.
<v Speaker 1>I want to see the Blob. I want to see
<v Speaker 1>the Creature from the Black Lagoon. I might see those,
<v Speaker 1>but they weren't talking about movies from the seventies at
<v Speaker 1>that point, right.
<v Speaker 2>I enjoyed creature feature movies. So you may notice there'll
<v Speaker 2>be less slashers and more creature featured type of stuff.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, our criteria does not require that it be a
<v Speaker 1>scary movie or a horror movie or a slasher movie.
<v Speaker 1>It's just movies you watch around Halloween. That's right now. Interestingly,
<v Speaker 1>in that there are a couple of movies that I
<v Speaker 1>eliminated that you might be considered good slasher or monster
<v Speaker 1>movies of the seventies. I'm not putting Alien on my list,
<v Speaker 1>even though it's sci fi horror, because to me, it's
<v Speaker 1>more sci fi than it is horror. And I'm not
<v Speaker 1>putting Jaws on my list because even though it's a
<v Speaker 1>monster chasing them for the entire movie, it's a summer movie.
<v Speaker 1>It's a blockbuster, it's a beach movie. I told you
<v Speaker 1>it's a July fourth movie exactly. That's not Halloween movie. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>so come with us, dive in, because we're about to
<v Speaker 1>tell you our top five movies to watch around Halloween
<v Speaker 1>for the nineteen seventies.
<v Speaker 4>That's right.
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<v Speaker 2>All right, d this is my number five movie to
<v Speaker 2>watch around Halloween from the seventies.
<v Speaker 1>Five.
<v Speaker 2>George Romero was originally supposed to direct this movie, but
<v Speaker 2>Toby Hooper got the job instead. All right, so this
<v Speaker 2>was I'm gonna call it a movie, but it was
<v Speaker 2>actually released as a television mini series. Oh okay, now then,
<v Speaker 2>the author of this movie or story is one of
<v Speaker 2>the most prolific important authors of our time. When you're
<v Speaker 2>talking bullseye of Bullseye for you and I growing up? Okay, yep,
<v Speaker 2>all right, the head bad guy from this TV mini
<v Speaker 2>series is on screen for less than ninety seconds.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, you think coming to you so far? I have
<v Speaker 1>an idea. I have an idea. Okay, keep going.
<v Speaker 2>The plot of this movie is very autobiographical. It's about
<v Speaker 2>a professor who moves to a new England town and
<v Speaker 2>is kind of an outcast and kind of a weirdo
<v Speaker 2>and realizes that the giant mansion up at the top
<v Speaker 2>of the hill is actually possessed by a vampire.
<v Speaker 1>So is this movie have a name that reminds you
<v Speaker 1>of burning, which is at the stake it does. All right,
<v Speaker 1>this has got to be Salem's Lot.
<v Speaker 5>The vampires are creating vampires.
<v Speaker 6>The shadow of Death.
<v Speaker 2>So Sale's Lot was Stephen King's second book that he
<v Speaker 2>ever published, and it's his favorite book that he published
<v Speaker 2>up into you.
<v Speaker 1>Know, through the eighties. Yeah, so I've read this one.
<v Speaker 1>It's fantastic. Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>Bonnie Bidelia from die Hard is the love interest.
<v Speaker 1>Wow.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, got a kind of a cool plot twist at
<v Speaker 2>the very end involving her. You get one of the
<v Speaker 2>guys from Starsky and Hutch as the main guy in
<v Speaker 2>this movie. Okay, And you've got Clint Eastwood's buddy from
<v Speaker 2>any which way you can and every which way you
<v Speaker 2>but loose running around.
<v Speaker 1>Town as a vampire. Jeffrey Lewis. Jeffrey Lewis yep. Okay,
<v Speaker 1>So I haven't seen that one. Like many horror movies,
<v Speaker 1>it would catch my eye in the video store and
<v Speaker 1>the vampire is displayed prominently on the cover and he
<v Speaker 1>looks like the nos Faratu vampire. Yeah. Yeah, which again
<v Speaker 1>another scary movie from the seventies that was a remake
<v Speaker 1>of a really old like black and white silent movie.
<v Speaker 1>That's correct, but I have not seen either one of those.
<v Speaker 2>Sale that's great, and it was made for television, so
<v Speaker 2>if you want to watch it with your kids. Definitely creepy,
<v Speaker 2>definitely scary, but not gory, and you know, no sex,
<v Speaker 2>no cussing, that type of thing, and you can get
<v Speaker 2>it from the library whatever.
<v Speaker 1>It's really great. Yeah. They remade it in the two
<v Speaker 1>thousands with Rob Lowe as the main character. Wow. Yeah, okay,
<v Speaker 1>Stephen King's Salem's Lot okay, so ready for my number five?
<v Speaker 1>Ready for your number five? Number five? Okay. Before writing
<v Speaker 1>and directing this movie, the director and writer asked Bob
<v Speaker 1>Clark about a movie that he had just finished up
<v Speaker 1>a couple of years earlier called Black Christmas. Okay. He
<v Speaker 1>asked him, hey, did you ever think about doing a
<v Speaker 1>sequel to Black Christmas? Black Christmas involved like these sorority
<v Speaker 1>killings where it was a serial killer and you never
<v Speaker 1>really saw who it was. And Bob Clark said no,
<v Speaker 1>because these aren't really the kind of movies that I
<v Speaker 1>came to Hollywood to direct. So the director of this
<v Speaker 1>movie says, well, if you did, what would you do?
<v Speaker 1>And He's like, Oh, I'd have my guy escape from
<v Speaker 1>a min to losylum and come and come back and
<v Speaker 1>recavoc in the same place that he was at before.
<v Speaker 1>That's about all he gave him. Now, I've said the
<v Speaker 1>name Bob Clark a few times. Do you remember who
<v Speaker 1>that is?
<v Speaker 2>That is the same guy who directed A Christmas.
<v Speaker 1>Story, Yeah, exactly. The game is one of the funniest
<v Speaker 1>movies in the eighties. Yes. One of his big movie
<v Speaker 1>to come out in the seventies was Black Christmas, which was,
<v Speaker 1>of course a horror movie that takes place on Christmas.
<v Speaker 1>And then he comes out with a Christmas movie that
<v Speaker 1>takes a place on Christmas in the eighties, which is
<v Speaker 1>one of the best Christmas movies of all time. I
<v Speaker 1>gl god Dario. So, the director of this movie decides
<v Speaker 1>that it needs to also be set on a holiday, okay,
<v Speaker 1>and so he gets together with his girlfriend and they
<v Speaker 1>start writing a script. They had been propositioned by some
<v Speaker 1>producers who had seen his first movie, which was called
<v Speaker 1>Assault on Precinct thirteen. Got it, Let's kick it down
<v Speaker 1>the road. Okay, let's kick it down. I was gonna say,
<v Speaker 1>if if our listeners have got it, you keep it
<v Speaker 1>in your mind, because I think it must be higher
<v Speaker 1>on Jason's list. It is all right.
<v Speaker 2>By the way, do you mentioned the John Carpenter movie
<v Speaker 2>Assault on Precinct thirteen? Yes, the film by Guys covered
<v Speaker 2>that not too long ago.
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, that's right. Yeah, that was a good episode.
<v Speaker 1>Go back and check out that episode.
<v Speaker 2>It's one of Carpenter's early movies. You gotta check out,
<v Speaker 2>all right. So number my number four.
<v Speaker 5>Four.
<v Speaker 2>This was narrated by a popular sitcom actor in the
<v Speaker 2>nineteen eighties, and he was paid with a marijuana joint.
<v Speaker 1>For his time and effort. This one. The director wanted.
<v Speaker 2>A PG rating, okay, and because of that, he shows
<v Speaker 2>very little blood, very little gore, almost no gore.
<v Speaker 1>Okay.
<v Speaker 2>But instead it had the opposite effect. Because of the
<v Speaker 2>minimalization of what you actually see, your mind races and
<v Speaker 2>you go crazy. Instead, it becomes like the most horrific
<v Speaker 2>thing you've ever seen in your life.
<v Speaker 1>Gosh, Okay, Okay, I don't know what it is, Okay,
<v Speaker 1>keep going, all right.
<v Speaker 2>So this is an allegory for the Vietnam War. The
<v Speaker 2>director got the idea for this movie while he was
<v Speaker 2>holiday shopping in a crowded department store. I could see
<v Speaker 2>the recognition on your face.
<v Speaker 1>I know where you're going with this one, and it
<v Speaker 1>is appropriate because it is also my number four. Okay, great.
<v Speaker 1>So yes, he is in a very busy store and
<v Speaker 1>he's thinking to himself, how could I speed through this crowd?
<v Speaker 1>He turns and looks to his left, and because it's
<v Speaker 1>a hardware store, he sees a chainsaw and thinks that'd
<v Speaker 1>be a good way to get through this crowd. Hey,
<v Speaker 1>that might be a good, great idea. Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>Now, we've talked about Psycho before, which Psycho is based
<v Speaker 2>on the actual killer ed Geen. Some aspects of Silence
<v Speaker 2>of the Lambs were based on ed Geen.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, they actually really pushed this movie as true based
<v Speaker 1>on a true story. The movie even starts off with
<v Speaker 1>the line the film you were about to see is true?
<v Speaker 1>It really was? It was no, not at all. Like
<v Speaker 1>It has some relationship to the ed Geen story, which
<v Speaker 1>if you want to hear more about that, check out
<v Speaker 1>our m versus Psycho versus Silence of the Lamb, two
<v Speaker 1>of those heavily influenced by ed Gene's story as well.
<v Speaker 1>It also is bears some relationship to a serial killer
<v Speaker 1>out of Texas called Elmer Wayne Henley, who would recruit
<v Speaker 1>young men to go to this guy who was killing
<v Speaker 1>them go to his house, and so partially based on that.
<v Speaker 1>But the movie, if you haven't guessed it yet, after
<v Speaker 1>the clue of Chainsaw and in Texas, is the Texas
<v Speaker 1>Chainsaw Massacre.
<v Speaker 4>What happened was true the most bizarre and brutal series
<v Speaker 4>of crimes in America.
<v Speaker 2>Of course, of course I found this quote awesome. Edwin O'Neil,
<v Speaker 2>who plays the hitchhiker, the guy one of the guys
<v Speaker 2>at the dinner scene said filming the dinner scene was
<v Speaker 2>one of the worst experiences.
<v Speaker 1>Of my life. And I had been in Vietnam where
<v Speaker 1>people are trying to kill me. Yeah, that's yeah. It
<v Speaker 1>is an intense and uncomfortable scene. And all to try
<v Speaker 1>to get a PG rating on a movie that you're
<v Speaker 1>calling the Texas chains On Massacre. So this movie came
<v Speaker 1>out in October of nineteen seventy four. The budget for
<v Speaker 1>the movie was one hundred and forty thousand dollars. It
<v Speaker 1>would go on to gross thirty million dollars. I mean,
<v Speaker 1>it's a pillar in the horror genre. Yeah. So this
<v Speaker 1>stars Marilyn Burns as Sally Hardesty, the one who's the
<v Speaker 1>last girl, as s dollar Is. It has Paul Partain
<v Speaker 1>as the wheelchair bound Franklin Hardesty, who had just come
<v Speaker 1>off a Sidney Lumet movie actually when he got this one.
<v Speaker 1>And then you've got a guy named Gunner Hanson, who
<v Speaker 1>you might know better as Leatherface.
<v Speaker 3>Yes.
<v Speaker 1>So this movie, as cheap as it was, set the
<v Speaker 1>stage for so many horror movies to come. Was the
<v Speaker 1>first movie to use power tools as a murder weapon. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>and one of the very first ones to use large
<v Speaker 1>masked men as the killer.
<v Speaker 2>I watched it just the other day in preparation for this.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they'll last. The dinner scene is torture.
<v Speaker 2>The watch she does this scream for like six minutes
<v Speaker 2>and then pointing at her and poking here and trying
<v Speaker 2>to get Grandpa a banger in the head with a hammer.
<v Speaker 2>And so I was gonna tell you also, while they
<v Speaker 2>were shooting this totally miserable middle of summer in Texas,
<v Speaker 2>and we know we live in southern Oklahoma, it's freaking hot. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>it is triple digits the entire shoot.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And then I mean to talk about it being
<v Speaker 1>a cheap budget, like one hundred and forty thousand. He
<v Speaker 1>was trying to get it done as fast as he
<v Speaker 1>could so that he didn't have to keep renting the equipment.
<v Speaker 1>And so they're not only out there in the heat,
<v Speaker 1>they're out there for like the whole day. You know,
<v Speaker 1>wake up, start shooting until you can't stand anymore, and
<v Speaker 1>then fall asleep. Yeah, the misery you see on every
<v Speaker 1>one's face is real.
<v Speaker 2>I did hear that Marilyn Burns while she was running
<v Speaker 2>through the junglely area of Texas, a lot of those
<v Speaker 2>burrs would cut her and she ended up bloody from that.
<v Speaker 2>So much of the blood you see on screen blood
<v Speaker 2>real blood.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Okay, so that was my number four. Also my
<v Speaker 1>number four. Let's hear your number three, all right, three, My.
<v Speaker 2>Number three has been called the scariest movie of all time.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, why don't we push that one down the road.
<v Speaker 1>Let's push that one. Okay, yes, okay, to your number three, sir,
<v Speaker 1>all right. My number three involves an author's first book
<v Speaker 1>and first movie to be made out of his book.
<v Speaker 1>He sold the movie rights for twenty five hundred dollars.
<v Speaker 1>He's twenty six years old. Never been asked to have
<v Speaker 1>a book made let alone. His first book turned into
<v Speaker 1>a movie and the director had gotten the book on
<v Speaker 1>the request of a friend read it and I was like,
<v Speaker 1>this is great. Let's see who's got it, and he said,
<v Speaker 1>nobody's got it. So he went to these studios and
<v Speaker 1>said let's buy it. Yeah, heard tickets for six months
<v Speaker 1>and then finally a bite. You know what it is?
<v Speaker 1>I do know what it is.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, this has to be Carrie by Stephen King.
<v Speaker 1>You got it.
<v Speaker 7>Yes, it's the night of the senior from the Bates
<v Speaker 7>High School gym is alive with excitement. Everybody is there,
<v Speaker 7>even Carrie White, the girl no one likes.
<v Speaker 5>We're well, sorry about this incident Cassie.
<v Speaker 4>If carry.
<v Speaker 1>And everyone makes fun out of that. So Carrie came
<v Speaker 1>out just after Halloween nineteen seventy six. Came out November sixth,
<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventy six. Now this is one of the bigger
<v Speaker 1>budgets for the movies of the seventies. This one had
<v Speaker 1>started off at one point six million, got bumped up
<v Speaker 1>to one point eight million. But you have a star
<v Speaker 1>studded cast including this is interesting. The wife of the
<v Speaker 1>art director who said you should skip that commercial audition
<v Speaker 1>that you're doing tomorrow and go condition for this movie
<v Speaker 1>that I'm about to be a part of. The art
<v Speaker 1>director's name was Jack Fisk, and his wife's name is
<v Speaker 1>Sissy Spacek, whoa she had totally like and she's in
<v Speaker 1>her twenties. Yeah, but she's supposed to play a teenager.
<v Speaker 1>So instead of going to this commercial shoot that she's
<v Speaker 1>supposed to do, she gets vasolene and slicks her hair
<v Speaker 1>down and then wears this little like sailor outfit that
<v Speaker 1>she had from whenever she was a little kid, and
<v Speaker 1>totally looks like this pubest teenager. Wow.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's fantastic. You know, it's got Nancy Allen and
<v Speaker 2>John Travolta in it.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, so Nancy Allen we know from RoboCop. Yes,
<v Speaker 1>because we talked about RoboCop versus Predator. Predator. That was
<v Speaker 1>a good episode. Yeah, that's really a good one. She
<v Speaker 1>ends up marrying Brian de Palma. They were married from
<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventy nine to nineteen eighty four. Wow. It also
<v Speaker 1>has William Kat mister Greatest American hero in it. It
<v Speaker 1>also has John Travolta in one of his art earliest
<v Speaker 1>movie Roles, who comes becomes the movie guy for the
<v Speaker 1>next decade after that. Yep, it's got a lady named
<v Speaker 1>p J. Souls in it, who's in another movie that's
<v Speaker 1>going to come up here talking about it in a minute. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>it's got Amy Irving in it, who is so pretty,
<v Speaker 1>so pretty, and ends up marrying Steven Spielberg ten years later.
<v Speaker 1>Who Steven Spielberg, he's a director?
<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, thank you. I mean, it's just nuts all
<v Speaker 2>the people that were involved in this. But it all
<v Speaker 2>started from this novel by Stephen King that he threw away.
<v Speaker 2>He literally was writing the novel.
<v Speaker 1>His wife had said, you know, you should try something
<v Speaker 1>from a female perspective. He gave it his best shot
<v Speaker 1>and he thought this is terrible, watted up, threw it
<v Speaker 1>in the trash. His wife dug it out of the trash,
<v Speaker 1>read it and said, you need to keep going. This
<v Speaker 1>is good.
<v Speaker 2>You know, they really did a great job with this.
<v Speaker 2>The pig blood scene at the very end you talk
<v Speaker 2>about scared was she flips at ther on the movie
<v Speaker 2>and the door slam shut and she's like, that's it.
<v Speaker 1>I've had it. Everybody's going down. It is scary. Even
<v Speaker 1>the teacher that was kind of nice to her. Yeah, sorry,
<v Speaker 1>you are getting it just like everybody else who's inside
<v Speaker 1>this building right now.
<v Speaker 2>You know, the scene that stands out to me is
<v Speaker 2>the one of they're throwing tampons at her in the shower,
<v Speaker 2>going plug it up, plug it up.
<v Speaker 1>I watched it.
<v Speaker 2>It's just heartbreaking, you know, they just bully her and
<v Speaker 2>then her mother's a wacko.
<v Speaker 1>Oh Piper Laurie, Oh my gosh, what an incredible job
<v Speaker 1>she does. Is the psycho realig scary? Yeah? Oh my goodness,
<v Speaker 1>so good.
<v Speaker 2>Excellent choice, excellent choice. That was your number three, yes,
<v Speaker 2>number k all right, oh white. By the way, one
<v Speaker 2>quick nugget. Yes, they tried to make a musical out
<v Speaker 2>of things it was. It was supposed to be on Broadway.
<v Speaker 2>I think that they did like sixteen previews, all of
<v Speaker 2>which tanked. They ran it for like five days.
<v Speaker 1>And they said, no, that's just it's not gonna work.
<v Speaker 1>Oh that thinks.
<v Speaker 2>The big climactive moment with Hawker dumb blood on the
<v Speaker 2>audience real quick.
<v Speaker 1>The last scene in the movie, the scene, Yeah, they
<v Speaker 1>film it backwards to give it the kind of ghost theory,
<v Speaker 1>ghost kind of thing. That was inspired by the movie Deliverance.
<v Speaker 2>Interesting, okay, very good. All right, on to my number
<v Speaker 2>two two. This is a movie that was inspired by
<v Speaker 2>the old universal movies. Okay, the star of this movie said,
<v Speaker 2>I will star in it, mister director, as long as
<v Speaker 2>you don't star in it.
<v Speaker 1>I know what movie you're talking about, and we should
<v Speaker 1>push it off until a little bit later. Let's push
<v Speaker 1>it off. Okay, all right, you're a number two, sir. Okay,
<v Speaker 1>so my number two you just referred to earlier as
<v Speaker 1>you're number three. You said it was referred to as
<v Speaker 1>the scariest movie of all times. Yes, there are some
<v Speaker 1>incredible stories behind this one. I mean, just trying to
<v Speaker 1>dip my toe in was hard because there's so much
<v Speaker 1>surrounding the making of this movie, let alone the movie itself. Right,
<v Speaker 1>But let me just start at the beginning, because at
<v Speaker 1>least that's a little kind of happier story. You know
<v Speaker 1>who Blake Edwards is, right?
<v Speaker 2>I love Blake Edwards. Yeah, mister pink Panther, Mister Pink Panther,
<v Speaker 2>and so one of his earliest TV shows that he
<v Speaker 2>did was Peter Gunn. Yeah, okay, you'll know the theme
<v Speaker 2>if you don't know the spy hunter right exactly.
<v Speaker 1>Exactly, yes, yeah. So at some point he decides I
<v Speaker 1>want to bring back the Peter Gunn character in a movie,
<v Speaker 1>and so he gets this guy who's helped him write
<v Speaker 1>some scripts, Blake Edwards, presents it to William Freakin and says, hey,
<v Speaker 1>look at the script and tell me what you think.
<v Speaker 1>And William Freakin looks at it and says, I don't
<v Speaker 1>think this could be worse if your worst enemy wrote
<v Speaker 1>it for you. Woa what Like? He was like, I mean,
<v Speaker 1>it could not have been more blunt. And and we've
<v Speaker 1>as we find out later, William Freakin is that guy.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, he's the guy who will he will do whatever. Yes,
<v Speaker 1>he's a nut, he wackle Willie. And so he just
<v Speaker 1>passed away, by the way, like two months ago, just
<v Speaker 1>passed away August seventh. Okay. So anyway, after that little meeting,
<v Speaker 1>the script writer who had also helped Blake Edwards write
<v Speaker 1>a Shot in the Dark. That's the second in the
<v Speaker 1>Inspector Clues. Oh movies, Yes, right after the Pink Panther. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>get a Shot in the Dark. So this screenwriter, whose
<v Speaker 1>name is William Peter Blattie comes up after this meeting,
<v Speaker 1>and he says, I'm the guy who helped him write
<v Speaker 1>that script, and you're right, it was terrible. This is
<v Speaker 1>an important meeting. Yeah, Because later that writer is giving
<v Speaker 1>up on screenwriting, he decides I'll give novels a try,
<v Speaker 1>and he writes this novel about an event that occurred
<v Speaker 1>in nineteen forty nine. This kid, who at the time
<v Speaker 1>was just known as Roland Doe or Robbie Mannheim as
<v Speaker 1>a pseudonym. Later they would determine his real name was
<v Speaker 1>Ronald Edwin Hunkler. But in nineteen forty nine he was
<v Speaker 1>believed to have been possessed by the devil and required
<v Speaker 1>an exorcism, And so William Peter Bladdie then writes the
<v Speaker 1>book The Exorcist.
<v Speaker 5>Got It. Something beyond comprehension is happening to a little
<v Speaker 5>girl on this street, in this house. A man has
<v Speaker 5>been sent for as a last resort to try and
<v Speaker 5>save her.
<v Speaker 1>So he writes this book and it doesn't even sell
<v Speaker 1>that well to begin with. It's not until he goes
<v Speaker 1>on the Dick Cavot Show and gets involved in this
<v Speaker 1>conversation about whether the devil exists or not, and for
<v Speaker 1>some reason that slights the Spark and literally within the
<v Speaker 1>week he is on the New York Times bestseller list.
<v Speaker 2>It's incredible. You know, this movie was so scary the
<v Speaker 2>people in the theaters threw up, passed out. The Washington
<v Speaker 2>DC police said they were going to arrest any adult
<v Speaker 2>who was bringing a child in to see this movie.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and even.
<v Speaker 2>Now you and I are both like, man, that's scary.
<v Speaker 4>Man.
<v Speaker 1>Oh dude, it is terrifying. Like I said, we need
<v Speaker 1>to do a full episode on this. Jason Miller, the
<v Speaker 1>guy who plays the young priest in the movie. At
<v Speaker 1>some point while the movie is being filmed, an actual
<v Speaker 1>priest stops him, unaware that they're this movie, but just
<v Speaker 1>stops him in his apartment building, hands him a Catholic
<v Speaker 1>medal you know the little necklaces that you can wear
<v Speaker 1>some Saints medal and says to Jason Miller, if you
<v Speaker 1>reveal the devil for the trickster that he is, he
<v Speaker 1>will seek retribution against you, or he will even try
<v Speaker 1>to stop what you're doing to unmask him. Whoo, So
<v Speaker 1>he gets this medal. Two days later, he's walking through
<v Speaker 1>his apartment building. He goes by the door and he's like, whoa,
<v Speaker 1>what did I just see leans back and there is
<v Speaker 1>a coffin inside of the apartment. The priest that gave
<v Speaker 1>him the medal two days earlier is dead in the casket.
<v Speaker 1>And that's just one of three or four deaths associated
<v Speaker 1>with the making of this movie. It's crazy.
<v Speaker 2>Hey, I'll tell you something else. I don't know if
<v Speaker 2>he came across this or not. Yeah, on screen in
<v Speaker 2>this movie is a killer, like an actual serial killer.
<v Speaker 1>The guy who plays the radiologist and she's in the
<v Speaker 1>hospital later gets convicted of murder. Two of the actors
<v Speaker 1>in the movie die before the movie is released. Both
<v Speaker 1>the main female characters in the movie break their back
<v Speaker 1>during the production of the movie. The behavior of William
<v Speaker 1>Friedkin during this entire movie is nuts, And had he
<v Speaker 1>not just come off winning the Academy Award for the
<v Speaker 1>French Connection, no one would have let him even do
<v Speaker 1>the movie, let alone do the crazy stuff that he
<v Speaker 1>was doing. Oh my gosh, this one is just amazing.
<v Speaker 1>But if I can just give you a little trivia
<v Speaker 1>on the guy who wrote the music, because the music
<v Speaker 1>is iconic.
<v Speaker 2>As well, it's as least as important as some of
<v Speaker 2>the special effects.
<v Speaker 1>The composer's name is Jack Nietzschee and he started his
<v Speaker 1>career as the right hand man of mister phil Spector himself.
<v Speaker 1>He played with the Rolling Stones, He played with Neil Young.
<v Speaker 1>He wrote the song which won him an oscar. By
<v Speaker 1>the way, up where We Belong? Oh live does up?
<v Speaker 1>Wel mister Joe Cocker himself? Wow? Is that that same
<v Speaker 1>man is the guy who wrote the music to this
<v Speaker 1>incredibly scary movie? A little bit of trivia for you go.
<v Speaker 1>The woman is who sings that song up where We Belong?
<v Speaker 1>She's been featured in one of our other episodes, was
<v Speaker 1>it the dirty Dancing episode? That's right, Jennifer Warrens, who
<v Speaker 1>also sang with the Righteous Brother Bill Medley. Bill Medley,
<v Speaker 1>thank you for the I had the time of my life,
<v Speaker 1>Time of my life. Wow. By the way, A couple
<v Speaker 1>more trivia bits. Yes, for the part of the little
<v Speaker 1>girl that ultimately went to Linda Blair. Yes, Jamie Lee
<v Speaker 1>Curtis wanted to play the part, but her mother Janet Lee,
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't allow her to do it. Wow. Another person who
<v Speaker 1>was a prime consideration for playing this part laid Violet
<v Speaker 1>Buregard in Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory. Mister Denise Nickerson.
<v Speaker 1>Who I mean, can you imagine violet? You're turning violet? Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I can't repeat anything. That can't repeat anything that Linda
<v Speaker 1>Blair says in the movie.
<v Speaker 2>But yes, you know, the Demon was voiced by a
<v Speaker 2>woman named Mercedes McCambridge, who Orson Wells called the world's
<v Speaker 2>greatest living radio.
<v Speaker 1>Actress at one point.
<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, yeah, Now she smoked forty packs a day.
<v Speaker 1>And you know since the radio days her voice changed
<v Speaker 1>a little bit, right, perfect for the Demon. Perfect yep. Okay,
<v Speaker 1>So at this point in the podcast, we are to
<v Speaker 1>our number one picks, which are different number one picks, right,
<v Speaker 1>and both of us had it as a movie in
<v Speaker 1>our you know, I had yours as a movie in
<v Speaker 1>my past list on my number five and you had
<v Speaker 1>my number one. Is your number two. But we're not
<v Speaker 1>going to get into any of that yet. First, we're
<v Speaker 1>going to tell you about our honorable mentions. And I
<v Speaker 1>will just tell you, boys and girls, lady and gentlemen.
<v Speaker 1>As a kid who was zero to four years old
<v Speaker 1>during the seventies, these are not movies that I've seen
<v Speaker 1>because I just didn't see that many scary movies that
<v Speaker 1>many Halloween movies. I had a guy the other night
<v Speaker 1>when I mentioned this, he goes, oh, Charlie Brown The
<v Speaker 1>Great Pumpkin. I'm like, oh, perfect. I'm like, oh, now
<v Speaker 1>that's sixties sixty six. Oh yeah, that would have been
<v Speaker 1>a perfect one, because that's the kind of Halloween movies
<v Speaker 1>I was watching. Sure, But as I went through these things,
<v Speaker 1>there were a few movies that I was like, oh, man,
<v Speaker 1>I really, at this stage in my life, I do
<v Speaker 1>actually want to watch those movies. Even though I'm not
<v Speaker 1>a scary movie guy, I would like to watch those movies.
<v Speaker 1>So my two honorable mentions, I'm not gonna give you
<v Speaker 1>any trivia on. I'm just gonna tell you. I'm gonna
<v Speaker 1>tease me up. Come on, movie. I don't have the
<v Speaker 1>tri trivia. Sorry, bro. So one of my honorable mentions
<v Speaker 1>is another Brian De Palmer movie, and it's stars a
<v Speaker 1>guy that we've talked about before when we did our
<v Speaker 1>Smoky in the Bandit episode. A guy who wrote Rainbow
<v Speaker 1>Connection for the Muppet movie. Yeahlus because he's thirsty dummy.
<v Speaker 1>Mister Paul Williams is the star of a Brian De
<v Speaker 1>Palmer movie, which was described to us as a cross
<v Speaker 1>between Phantom of the Opera and the Rocky Horror Picture
<v Speaker 1>Show a movie called Phantom of the Paradise. WHOA, I've
<v Speaker 1>never seen this movie. I haven't. I had again, I
<v Speaker 1>was familiar with the cover of the VHS tape or whatever,
<v Speaker 1>but it's not one I ever saw. But it's I mean,
<v Speaker 1>it's got a seven point three on the IMDb. It
<v Speaker 1>looks like a worthy watch. I just have never seen it,
<v Speaker 1>And based on Jeff Johnson's recommendation, I think I need
<v Speaker 1>to probably correct that this month.
<v Speaker 2>Anybody who writes a song as good as Rainbow Connection,
<v Speaker 2>this has to be good.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Okay, Jason, Before we keep going, there is a
<v Speaker 1>podcast you and I just discovered which is fan freakantastic
<v Speaker 1>that I wanted to tell everybody about. Yeah. It's called
<v Speaker 1>Famous and Gravy. Yeah. A couple of guys very much
<v Speaker 1>like ourselves, same generation. They have that kind of same
<v Speaker 1>talking back and forth chemistry. Michael Osborne and am At Kapoor.
<v Speaker 1>They have this really awesome format and it just keeps
<v Speaker 1>you engaged in the podcast the whole freaking time. Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>So they talk about a person who is dead and
<v Speaker 2>whether or not you would want to have their life
<v Speaker 2>it's kind of a cool thing. They're they're inspirational, they're
<v Speaker 2>very positive, thought provoking.
<v Speaker 1>I enjoy this. They break it up into like ten
<v Speaker 1>or eleven different categories. First one is the obituary of
<v Speaker 1>this person, right, and then the last one is the
<v Speaker 1>James Vanderby category of I Don't want your life and
<v Speaker 1>it's fantastic. And they've got a Malcovich category in there,
<v Speaker 1>which is my absolute favorite. But you guys should totally
<v Speaker 1>go check these guys out. They cover athletes, they cover
<v Speaker 1>rock stars, just I mean anybody and everybody.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, they've covered any money. Luke Perry, I forgot
<v Speaker 2>he died, Brad Willard, Gene Wilder, Bill Paxton, Hank Aaron,
<v Speaker 2>Alan Rickman.
<v Speaker 1>You told me you found a Bill Paxton nugget in
<v Speaker 1>one of their podcasts.
<v Speaker 2>From them, According to their podcast, I learned this stuff, ye,
<v Speaker 2>Bill Paxon, do you know the song fish Heads.
<v Speaker 1>Fish Fish Fish Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>Bill Paxton was the director of that music video.
<v Speaker 1>Shut up, Yes, dude. I love these guys. They are
<v Speaker 1>fantastic guys. If you have not checked out the Amous
<v Speaker 1>and Gravy podcast, definitely go check that out. Definitely. And
<v Speaker 1>then my other honorable mention is a movie that I
<v Speaker 1>want to see. So it also stars Martin Sheen and
<v Speaker 1>it has got a The plot of the movie is
<v Speaker 1>a thirteen year old girl who lives with her absentee father,
<v Speaker 1>the friends a disabled teenage amateur magician, and eventually invites
<v Speaker 1>him gradually into her tenuous struggle against a predatory local neighbor.
<v Speaker 1>This movie is called The Little Girl who Lives Down
<v Speaker 1>the Lane. Came out in nineteen seventy six and got
<v Speaker 1>a seven point zero on IMDb. Okay, gotta be a
<v Speaker 1>good movie, yeah, Jennie Foster, are you kidding? Yeah? Awesome, Okay,
<v Speaker 1>all right, I got a couple for you. These are
<v Speaker 1>my honorable mentions.
<v Speaker 2>And I have seen these, okay, and I've got I've
<v Speaker 2>got a kind of a tender spot in my heart
<v Speaker 2>for these corny, really cheesy seventies type of movies.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Yeah, I'm gonna tease this.
<v Speaker 2>One up for you a little bit, just to see
<v Speaker 2>if there's anything there for you. Okay, So this one
<v Speaker 2>is basically a copy of the movie a Rachnophobia.
<v Speaker 1>It stars William Shatner. I was gonna say it can't
<v Speaker 1>be a copy because Rachnophobia didn't come out until like
<v Speaker 1>the nineties.
<v Speaker 2>Well, excuse me, A rachnophobia basically steals the entire plot
<v Speaker 2>from this movie.
<v Speaker 1>Excuse me, oheah, yeah, gotcha. Okay, it's a spider movie.
<v Speaker 1>It's a spider movie. Okay.
<v Speaker 2>William Shatner is the uh protagonist.
<v Speaker 1>Uh huh yeah, I don't know what this says.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, it's basically about this Arizona town that's invaded by
<v Speaker 2>tarantulas for no reason, like they don't.
<v Speaker 1>Talk about it. Why, Just they're migrating, that's it. Oh
<v Speaker 1>that's great, Okay, I love it.
<v Speaker 2>Not only are they translists, but they're tranelists who spin webs,
<v Speaker 2>which is, you know, not possible. I don't think that's
<v Speaker 2>the way it works. But okay, here's the deal. Producers
<v Speaker 2>for this movie offered ten dollars for each live tarantula
<v Speaker 2>that the handler's captured, so they came back with five
<v Speaker 2>thousand tarantulists.
<v Speaker 1>Wow, that's fifty thousand dollars. Aulus. Here's the thing.
<v Speaker 2>Tarantula's they're spiders, but they're also so cannibalistic and territorial.
<v Speaker 2>So you have five thousand translates. You can't just toss
<v Speaker 2>them all in a bucket.
<v Speaker 1>So they ended up with like fifteen hundred and they're
<v Speaker 1>really fat. Hey, you watched the movie Man. Their tarantula
<v Speaker 1>is everywhere. This movie is called Kingdom of the Spiders.
<v Speaker 1>I don't like spiders touching me. I would not enjoy
<v Speaker 1>that movie. I'm with Robert Smith on this one. No, sir,
<v Speaker 1>you will not be I think that spider on me,
<v Speaker 1>Thank you very much.
<v Speaker 5>Hey.
<v Speaker 2>The funny thing is is that they are cut like
<v Speaker 2>these actors all cover with spiders the entire time, and
<v Speaker 2>Shatner is flicking these things off of stuff, and they
<v Speaker 2>say the worst injury that anybody suffered was there was
<v Speaker 2>minor irritation due to their hairs, the translate hairs that
<v Speaker 2>are bugging.
<v Speaker 1>Them more than a minor irritation.
<v Speaker 2>Kingdom of the Fighters nineteen seventy seven. Wow, starring William
<v Speaker 2>freaking Shatner. Okay, yeah, all right, my other honorable mention
<v Speaker 2>and tease this one up for you a little. Okay, Okay,
<v Speaker 2>this whole movie was shot with one camera. Nineteen seventy two.
<v Speaker 2>You have Bernie Casey, who played Felix Lider and Never
<v Speaker 2>Say Never again. He was also the head guy of
<v Speaker 2>the Black Fraternity in Revenge of the Nerds.
<v Speaker 1>He's been a bunch of other stuff.
<v Speaker 2>Scott Glenn, who played the main FBI guy in Silence
<v Speaker 2>of the Lambs, he's in it.
<v Speaker 1>Okay.
<v Speaker 2>Then you have this young actress named Jennifer Salt who's
<v Speaker 2>smoking hot for nineteen seventy two, running around this whole time.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, here's the thing that.
<v Speaker 2>Really struck me when I watched this again yesterday for
<v Speaker 2>the first time since nineteen ninety. Okay, the end of
<v Speaker 2>this movie is very similar to Aliens from nineteen eighty six.
<v Speaker 1>This is what I mean. Okay.
<v Speaker 2>There are eggs where these gargoyles are hatching from what's
<v Speaker 2>laying these eggs, We're not really sure. So the good
<v Speaker 2>guys go in there, they pour gasoline over him and
<v Speaker 2>they're burning out these eggs. I'm like, this looks just
<v Speaker 2>like Aliens.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>This movie is called Gargoyles Gargoles. This was a CBS
<v Speaker 2>TV movie.
<v Speaker 1>Look at you a two different CBS, two different Hey
<v Speaker 1>made for TV movies on your list. I go with
<v Speaker 1>what I saw, right, that's fantastic.
<v Speaker 2>And Bernie Casey is, by the way, is the head gargoyle.
<v Speaker 1>There you go all right, Okay. Now we're going to
<v Speaker 1>talk about your number one and then we're gonna talk
<v Speaker 1>about my number one.
<v Speaker 6>One.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, And since we both know what they are at
<v Speaker 1>this point, because they've come up previously on our list, yes,
<v Speaker 1>we'll tease it up for the audience a little bit.
<v Speaker 1>Al Right, sounds good, all right, all right, all right,
<v Speaker 1>all right, here you go. You ready for You're ready
<v Speaker 1>for this? Okay? Ready? So now, one of the key
<v Speaker 1>characters in this movie. His name was also the name
<v Speaker 1>of a character in the movie Psycho. It would later
<v Speaker 1>on be the name of a character in Scream five,
<v Speaker 1>but for now, let's just stick with Psycho. Okay, And
<v Speaker 1>the star of the movie Psycho, her daughter is in
<v Speaker 1>this movie. Yeah, as the main last girl. She is,
<v Speaker 1>no doubt, and it's her first movie because her mom
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't let her audition for The Exorcist. I know what
<v Speaker 1>this is, Oh, of course you do. This is Halloween.
<v Speaker 3>Fifteen years ago. I met this six year old child
<v Speaker 3>with this blank, pale, emotionless face, the blackest eyes, the
<v Speaker 3>death size.
<v Speaker 2>I'm babysitting the Doyles, the Wallaces leave at seven.
<v Speaker 1>What about the Boogieyman?
<v Speaker 3>The Boogieman is coming.
<v Speaker 1>There's no such thing. How can we have best movies
<v Speaker 1>of the seventies to watch over Halloween if we don't
<v Speaker 1>actually mention the movie Halloween? How can this not be
<v Speaker 1>your number one?
<v Speaker 2>When you talk about movies on Halloween from the seventies,
<v Speaker 2>You got to start with Halloween, don't you.
<v Speaker 1>No, I don't, because we'll time you number one if
<v Speaker 1>you're a number two. So don't give me anything, right,
<v Speaker 1>sounds good? Sounds good.
<v Speaker 2>So for those of you who don't know, this is
<v Speaker 2>common knowledge, but the mask worn by Michael Myers is actually.
<v Speaker 1>William the Shad Shatner, Hey, the main star of Kingdom
<v Speaker 1>of the Spiders. Turned it inside out, painted it white,
<v Speaker 1>stretched it out, cut the eyes out. That's all very
<v Speaker 1>well known at this point, right, yep, Okay, here's some
<v Speaker 1>tidbits about this movie that you that you may not know. Okay,
<v Speaker 1>all right, yep. We mentioned that PJ. Sols, Pamela Souls,
<v Speaker 1>was also in Carrie. She is in this movie as well.
<v Speaker 1>She's one of the babysitters. This movie was heavily influenced
<v Speaker 1>by the movie Psycho. The writer who was also the director,
<v Speaker 1>and his girlfriend who was also a writer who was
<v Speaker 1>also a babysitter named the Sheriff Lee in this movie. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>as a obvious direct connection. Okay, and I mentioned earlier
<v Speaker 1>that John Carpenter, the director of this movie, had talked
<v Speaker 1>to Bob Clark about doing a sequel to Black Christmas. Yes,
<v Speaker 1>Escaped from the Mental Institution was Bob Clark's suggestion on
<v Speaker 1>if he did it, this is what he would do.
<v Speaker 1>But Bob Clark has said that is that's John's movie,
<v Speaker 1>That's not my movie. We just had a conversation, right,
<v Speaker 1>So John Carpenter and his girlfriend Deborah Hill wrote the
<v Speaker 1>script for this in three weeks. They knew that they
<v Speaker 1>were going to make the movie because after he had
<v Speaker 1>his film shown at a festival movie Assault on Precincts thirteen,
<v Speaker 1>two producers approached him that worked together a guy named
<v Speaker 1>Irwin Yoblems and then Mustafa a Cod. So tragically, Mustafa
<v Speaker 1>a Cod he gets killed back in two thousand and
<v Speaker 1>five during the remember the three hotel bombings that they
<v Speaker 1>did the Al Qaeda did in two thousand and five,
<v Speaker 1>they called him the a Mom bombings. Yeah, the three
<v Speaker 1>hotels they had him at the same time. He was
<v Speaker 1>in one of those hotels with his daughter and was
<v Speaker 1>killed in that attack. Oh my gosh. But thirty years
<v Speaker 1>earlier he had funded this movie, which funding for the
<v Speaker 1>movie was about three hundred to three hundred and twenty
<v Speaker 1>five thousand dollars. This movie went on to make seventy
<v Speaker 1>million dollars, which is the the largest profit comparison that
<v Speaker 1>any mood movie had until Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles came
<v Speaker 1>out twenty years later.
<v Speaker 2>Really yeah, wow, Okay, here's what I know about this movie.
<v Speaker 2>It was set in Illinois, but it was filmed in Pasadena, California.
<v Speaker 2>The Meyer's House was an abandoned house. It was set
<v Speaker 2>to be kind of destroyed or whatever, and they were like, no, no, no,
<v Speaker 2>we'll film it there.
<v Speaker 1>They fixed it up. Later, like twenty years later, they're
<v Speaker 1>going to demolish it. They had actually moved it off
<v Speaker 1>the property set to be destroyed, and an investor came
<v Speaker 1>in rescued it.
<v Speaker 2>And now you can go visit the house. Now it's
<v Speaker 2>not on the same piece of land that it you know,
<v Speaker 2>the movie was shot in, but you can actually go
<v Speaker 2>visit the Myers House.
<v Speaker 1>Wow, you know if you want to do that. I
<v Speaker 1>don't know why anyone, but I love that time. I
<v Speaker 1>know I was gonna say you would you would probably
<v Speaker 1>go to do it. But what a great opening scene,
<v Speaker 1>by the way, the kid looking through the holes of
<v Speaker 1>his mask and his sister getting her makeup on, and yeah.
<v Speaker 2>The POV of Michael, Yeah you as a little six
<v Speaker 2>year old psychopath. John Carpenter said when he was filming
<v Speaker 2>this he wanted the audience to not relate to Michael
<v Speaker 2>at all in any way.
<v Speaker 1>By the way, the character that I mentioned before is
<v Speaker 1>Sam Loomis. You got doctor Sam Loomis played by Donald
<v Speaker 1>Pleasance in Halloween. They're the boyfriend character from Psycho. His
<v Speaker 1>character's name was Sam Lewis as well. I think the
<v Speaker 1>actor's name was John Garvin if I'm remembering.
<v Speaker 2>Right, and he is Janetly's boyfriend. I remember when we
<v Speaker 2>talked about Psycho. I think it was kind of very
<v Speaker 2>risky for her to be shown in a bra and yeah,
<v Speaker 2>all that with.
<v Speaker 1>His shirt off like that was very very risky for.
<v Speaker 2>Nineteen Really they were having a nooner, huh, and that
<v Speaker 2>was a big deal.
<v Speaker 1>Yep. So this movie came out October twenty fifth, nineteen
<v Speaker 1>seventy eight. It is forty five years old this year.
<v Speaker 1>I think it's about time go watch it again.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, we're onto your number one, sir, which happens to
<v Speaker 2>be my number two.
<v Speaker 1>But the way, The Exorcist was the first horror movie
<v Speaker 1>ever nominated for Best Picture for an Oscar. Okay, so
<v Speaker 1>for my number one. Yes, there was a guy named
<v Speaker 1>Kenneth Strickfadden, and he was known as the electrical special
<v Speaker 1>effects guy in Hollywood from his first movie in nineteen
<v Speaker 1>thirty one until his last movie in nineteen seventy four, Wow,
<v Speaker 1>both of which share a significant history. I know right.
<v Speaker 1>He was the electrical guy for the Wizard of Oz.
<v Speaker 1>He was the electrical special effects guy for the Mask
<v Speaker 1>of Fu Manchu. He was the electrical special effects guy
<v Speaker 1>for the Munsters on TV Wow. But his first job
<v Speaker 1>was the effects of nineteen thirty one's Frankenstein and his
<v Speaker 1>last job was on my number one movie for nineteen
<v Speaker 1>seventies movies to watch it Halloween, Yes, Young Frankenstein with
<v Speaker 1>mister gen Wilder by mister Melbrooks. It's coming from the
<v Speaker 1>deep dark recesses of the mind of mel Brooks. Young
<v Speaker 1>Frankenstein can Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>This guy means business.
<v Speaker 4>Starring Gene Wilder as doctor Frankenstein.
<v Speaker 5>That's Frankenstein, Peter Boyle as the monster, Marty Feldman as.
<v Speaker 6>My goal, my bandfather used to have field grandfather.
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure we'll get along splendidly. This movie is not
<v Speaker 2>only a great movie to watch at Halloween, it's also
<v Speaker 2>one of the funniest movies of the nineteen seventies.
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely hysterical. So Gene Wilder is filming Blazing Saddles with
<v Speaker 1>mel Brooks right right right, and they're having tea one
<v Speaker 1>day and Gene Wilder says, I think there needs to
<v Speaker 1>be another Frankenstein movie. And mel Brooks is like, oh
<v Speaker 1>my gosh, no, Well we've got we had the Son
<v Speaker 1>of Frankenstein, and we had the cousin of Frankenstein, and
<v Speaker 1>off all of these movies. And Gene Wilder's like, okay,
<v Speaker 1>but imagine it's his grandson and he wants nothing to
<v Speaker 1>do with the family because they're all a bunch of wackos.
<v Speaker 1>Uh huh. And Milbrook's ghost now that's funny.
<v Speaker 2>Hey, I watched the bloopers on this because I had
<v Speaker 2>read like Chloris Leachman and Terry Garr and mil Brooks
<v Speaker 2>had said Gene Wilder could not keep it together while.
<v Speaker 1>He was doing this movie.
<v Speaker 2>Right funny, Yes, it's so funny, and so that even
<v Speaker 2>they would they would do stuff like Marty Feldman is
<v Speaker 2>like chewing on Madeline Kahn's you know being, and he
<v Speaker 2>said he just could not stop laughing. Yeah, and so
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, well, there's got to be some great bloopers
<v Speaker 2>out there. I laughed and laughed and laughed, and.
<v Speaker 1>They would get mad at him. They're like, Jeane, that
<v Speaker 1>was such a great take. He's like, I'm sorry, I
<v Speaker 1>can't stop.
<v Speaker 3>Me.
<v Speaker 6>Oh, does that include the key to the laboratory?
<v Speaker 3>Who means that.
<v Speaker 1>You don't laugh?
<v Speaker 6>Now? Listen to me very carefully.
<v Speaker 1>So said a give.
<v Speaker 2>But the interesting thing, so while they're making this, he's
<v Speaker 2>laughing his butt off. He can't keep a straight face.
<v Speaker 2>It's very hard. They show the raw cut that's like
<v Speaker 2>two hours and forty five minutes something like that, and
<v Speaker 2>it bombs. Oh, it absolutely bombs. And so they went
<v Speaker 2>back to the drawing board. They're like, man, I thought
<v Speaker 2>we had a really good one. This audience is not laughing.
<v Speaker 2>It's not funny.
<v Speaker 1>So they cut it all down.
<v Speaker 2>They trimmed it all up, and they ramped the pace
<v Speaker 2>and the comedy, and of course it's now.
<v Speaker 1>It's a classic, absolute classic. And I think we've mentioned
<v Speaker 1>this a few times now, the inspiration for one of
<v Speaker 1>the greatest rock hits of nineteen seventy how about that well,
<v Speaker 1>walk this way.
<v Speaker 6>Walk this way, this way.
<v Speaker 1>By the way, Marty Feldman, Yeah, it was his idea
<v Speaker 1>to switch which side the hump was on from time
<v Speaker 1>to time. It's a viley Gene Welder to kind of
<v Speaker 1>improv the bits like, wasn't that is your hump on
<v Speaker 1>the other side? What hump?
<v Speaker 5>Hey?
<v Speaker 2>We still quote this today, right, there's and when you're
<v Speaker 2>having a bad day and I'm like, hey, could be worse,
<v Speaker 2>could be raining.
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>You know, my mother in law has a dog named Abby.
<v Speaker 1>Every time I see that dog, I'm like, Abby Normal.
<v Speaker 2>We just did a Patreon episode on the Taco song
<v Speaker 2>Putting on the Ritz, which is featured prominently in this movie.
<v Speaker 4>If you're blue and you don't know where to go to,
<v Speaker 4>why don't you go where?
<v Speaker 7>Fashion?
<v Speaker 1>That was the one scene that mel Brooks and Gene
<v Speaker 1>Wilder got in a fight about because mel Brooks said,
<v Speaker 1>this is too ridiculous. Mel Brooks, Wow, so this is
<v Speaker 1>too ridiculous. It's not gonna work. Gene Wilder stuck to
<v Speaker 1>his guns and obviously I mean comedy gold, comedy gold,
<v Speaker 1>comedy goal. Have you heard about that fight? So they
<v Speaker 1>had this knockdown, drag out fight and they're good friends,
<v Speaker 1>like screaming match. As soon as mel Brooks leaves, he
<v Speaker 1>calls Gene Wilder and he says, who was that mad man?
<v Speaker 1>Sorry and just like apologizes profusely. That's awesome. So that
<v Speaker 1>is awesome. Yeah, so like we've done vampire movies, We've
<v Speaker 1>done werewolf movies. Yeah, we have got to do a
<v Speaker 1>Frankenstein episode. I'd love to cover this one. Well, this
<v Speaker 1>is a great I mean, I've suggested it. I don't
<v Speaker 1>know if this is the right matchup, but I mentioned
<v Speaker 1>Kenneth Strickfadden being the electrical guy. Yeah, they use the
<v Speaker 1>same lab equipment in Young Frankenstein that they did in
<v Speaker 1>the original nineteen thirty one version. A fun matchup.
<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, hey, I'll tell you this too. Gene
<v Speaker 2>Hackman and Gene Wilder were tennis buddies.
<v Speaker 1>Huh and you know, what do you up to?
<v Speaker 2>What do you have to And he's like, well, I'm
<v Speaker 2>working with mel Brooks on this comedy in Young Frankenstein,
<v Speaker 2>Gene Hackman's like, hey, I would love to try comedy
<v Speaker 2>and basically he worked for free and he plays as
<v Speaker 2>a blind man and that scene is hysterical.
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely love it. And connection again French connection. That was
<v Speaker 1>William fried Quin's. They wouldn't even take him as the
<v Speaker 1>director until he won the Oscar and they're like, okay, well,
<v Speaker 1>I guess we'll go ahead and take that because Bladdie
<v Speaker 1>was caught. He was firm, this guy has to be
<v Speaker 1>our director. Wow. All from that meeting that they had
<v Speaker 1>where he knew where he was honest and said, your
<v Speaker 1>script couldn't have been worse. If you're worse, enemy wrote it.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, well that's gonna do it for our movies to
<v Speaker 2>watch around Halloween in the seventies. Come back next week
<v Speaker 2>when we talk about movies to watch around Halloween the eighties.
<v Speaker 1>Guys, thank you much so much for tuning in. We
<v Speaker 1>hope you all have a happy Halloween season. Be safe
<v Speaker 1>out there, and we will see you next week.
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