#322 - Should You Carry a Gun at Home? The Nancy Guthrie Incident

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You'll wake up in time

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and he will be perfectly silhouetted
like a b27 and I will say, stop!

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I an armed I'm an armed citizen
and you need to, you know, it doesn't work

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that way. So.

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Hi there, welcome to Guns Podcast U.S.

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Thanks for joining us here on one of
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As we chat about the interesting stuff
and stuff we find interesting

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about the world of shooting,
I'm your host, Brant Wheat,

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and of course I'm joined by Roy
Huntington.

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Howdy there. Roy, how are you doing?

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It's too early to tell.

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Okay,

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we got to quit these cracking
noon recording sessions.

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It is. And it's true.

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Yeah. We are at the crack of noon.

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Yeah, maybe that's it. Yeah, yeah.

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Well, we're going to talk about something
that is very topical, and this comes

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directly from a reader comment
or a couple of reader comments on YouTube.

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Is the situation involving Nancy Guthrie?

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That's the mom of Savannah Guthrie.

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If you've looked at the news at all,
it's in all the news.

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She's an older lady
that got abducted from her home.

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Maybe for ransom, probably.

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And they've got a lot more.

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And we had the question raised.

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You think you would have helped her if
she'd had a pistol strapped to her side?

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And we're going to discuss many points
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Well, Roy,

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an elderly woman kidnaped in Tucson.

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You've seen the door cam video.

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Guys all dolled up this certainly wasn't
a crime of opportunity.

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Of course there's a media frenzy

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going on, basically
because of who her daughter is.

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Who is Savannah Guthrie?

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She's one of the hosts of the Today show.

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And, I don't know, I, you know, dealing
with, our backgrounds in law enforcement.

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This sounds like it was
definitely not a crime of opportunity.

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It was a planned event,
but yet it doesn't sound like things,

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worked out the way
the perp or perpetrators had planned. So.

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Knowing what you know,

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which is same as I do from
just the media itself.

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Your thoughts on,
what this whole thing was to begin with?

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You know what? I really don't know.

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You know, and I hate to be a member
of the media and make connections.

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And could it be, you know.

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Yeah. Well, it could be anything.

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But, what brought us here, though,
is that the comments

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I had were people that were thinking that,
you know, what?

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If this can happen to her
in an exclusive community with security

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in a secured house with cameras, well,
then what's going to happen to me?

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You know, it's like I just live
in some neighborhood somewhere. And,

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so they were saying, what should I do?

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Should I carry it home?

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I mean, are people
going to think I'm crazy?

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And if I do carry it home,
what should I do?

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And I thought,
all those are good questions. Yep.

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So let's answer them.

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So, we've both got a lot of opinions
about this

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and a lot of practical experience,

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but I'm going to throw it back
right to you, Roy.

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And, I know your condition of your home,
how you carry around your house.

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But explain it to our audience
how you go about your daily business

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there at the palatial, estate
outside of Joplin, Missouri.

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Well, you know, it's interesting thing
because I,

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I live in the country
pretty far in the country.

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My, my driveway is a private driveway.

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It's a third of a mile long.

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So the odds and on it's
it's riddled with no trespassing,

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you know, you smile your own camera
and all that kind of stuff.

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And so it's rare
that I ever get anybody back here.

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And so the odds of, of a bad guy
coming back here are pretty remote,

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you know? But I didn't say impossible.

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You know,

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and I think that's the people that that's
the thing people need to think about.

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And usually when this.

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Oh, do you carry an armed at home
comes up.

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I see two there's two answers.

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There's two people, they say,
well why would you do that?

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It's perfectly safe.

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You shouldn't worry about it.

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And if anything happens,
you can always dial 911. No.

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All right.

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Well, I know they're limited idiots,
and they've obviously never been

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the victim of a crime. Right. And they.

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Because there's an old adage about,
you know, the a liberal is

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a, conservative
who hasn't been a victim of a crime yet,

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you know, and it's
I think it's really true.

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And then there are other the other people
who say, oh, yeah, you know what?

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That makes good sense because, you know,

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I've had this happen
or my house was burglarized.

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I'd never want to be unprepared.

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I never want to be a victim again,
you know?

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And so so I definitely am in that school.

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I know you are, and probably
most of the people listening to this show,

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but for some reason, home
is the King's ex, right?

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It's like when you come home at night,
you open up the garage door,

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you pull your car inside,

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you go inside the house,
and that's your safe zone now, right?

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But it's it. It's a safer zone,

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you know.

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But but is it really a safe zone?

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And I think if you especially
if you live in an urban and many suburban

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environments that you really should be
thinking about this and pay attention,

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because remember,
if you're in a suburban environment,

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that means you're within spitting distance
of the urban environment.

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And depending on where you live,

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I mean, you're a ten minute car ride
for any gangster,

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criminal, thug,
target of opportunity seeker.

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You know anything else? Yeah, yeah.

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And so as far as the mechanics of it
is, I don't think it takes a lot.

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And this is a thing that people
get caught up in stopping power.

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And what's the best platform and program
you know, all that kind of stuff.

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And I'm just going to go on right now.

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I mean, I'd say it really doesn't matter,
okay.

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It really doesn't matter because nobody
wants to get shot by anything.

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And if you have somebody trying to bust
in your front door and he's halfway

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in the front door and you open up on him
with a 22 Ruger single

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action revolver,
I promise you, things are going to stop,

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you know?

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I mean, unless unless they're
absolutely insane and and on drugs

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and are losing their mind, you know, the
they are going to run away you.

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We've all seen those YouTube
videos of six gang members

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break into a jewelry store,
and they all run in

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and they start smashing windows
and you see some wall

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scrawny guy behind the counter,
reach up over the top and start

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shooting with a Jennings
22 automatic right.

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What? What happens?

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Buh bye. Bye. They're out of there.

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They all run out and fall over each other
and trip and smash into the door.

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And you know,
because that's what happened.

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And so to me, it doesn't really matter.

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Carry whatever you're comfortable with.

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Carry what you will actually carry.

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If you want to.

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Just like, oh, I always have a gun
by my front door, that's fine.

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There's nothing wrong with that.

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You kids, you have to be careful.

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All that kind of stuff
depending on your situation.

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But I am here to tell you
from personal experience,

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if your gun is in the other room,
whatever's going to happen

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is going to happen
while you're in the kitchen, you know?

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Yeah.

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Or or taking your trash out that night
and your gun is safe

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inside by your front door.

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And so you
what I do is I have a Ruger LCP.

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Max 380.

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Scott, I think I put ten rounds in it.

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I always like to load them down one
and that's always,

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always, always in my pocket.

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Always.

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And it doesn't matter what I'm doing
if I'm obscure,

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talking to you right
now, it's in my pocket and I mean it.

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And that's what it takes.

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And you get used to it right away.
Really do.

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Maybe other people would want a little
J for a revolver or,

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that little charter undercover.

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It is 13oz, six shot, 32 Magnum.

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The perfect gun for this kind of stuff.

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And so the thing is, just do it.

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And I know when I've talked to people
about this, I usually I'll hear from,

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you know, vets and retired cops
and stuff, and, you know, they'll say,

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well, you know, I got a little jframe

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tucked in the cushion where I sit
all the time reading a newspaper and then,

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you know, but if I'm out and about,
I pick it up and I put it in my pocket

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and carry it around.

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And the amazing thing, though, is that
when I was editor of American Handgun

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or magazine Masada, you used to write,
of course, the IOB files.

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Right.

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Well,
he he did a lot of them were it started.

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Well, there I was at home enjoying dinner.

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Yep. You

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know, and suddenly he's
had a toe to toe shootout with some creep

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that just busted through his front window,
you know, and and you don't have time.

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Yeah. You don't.

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And I'll admit, I that's one of the things
I think we do differently here on this

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channel,
Roy, is we admit that we're not perfect

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tactical guys all the time.

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I generally do carry a, 38 in a pocket.

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Sometimes, especially toward the evening.

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I may take it out,
leave it on my desk or something.

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Now, I've also got guns staged
throughout the house.

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I'm never more than ten feet away.

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But I'll tell you, I'll admit
I got surprised here a month or two ago.

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It was after dinner.

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Well, after dinner,
it was dark because it's winter.

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And I look up
and there's somebody at our front door,

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and I'm like, what in the heck?

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And he kind of was messing around
and he took off.

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So of course I immediately go to the door
and I realized,

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I don't have my gun on me.

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And what it was was a package delivery
that we weren't expecting.

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But had that guy had nefarious intent,

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that could have been a bad deal.

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So I put a big red
X in mentally next to myself

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that I was not prepared for that.

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So, you know,
that's one of those situations.

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And I'll tell you a story I'd completely
forgotten until you were talking.

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Roy, I had a friend
on the police department,

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and I've always remembered this.

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This has been a long time ago.

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He was sitting after dinner in the
recliner, watching TV with his wife.

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All of a sudden,

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his front door burst in because
he never really locked his front door.

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And in runs this guy with a crazed look
and he realizes he knows the guy.

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And right behind him is a great big guy.

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And they're obviously they're going to go
and he's like, what are you doing?

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It turns out the guy,
the first guy, was being chased

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by the other guy
because of some peccadillo they had.

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And he knew
my friend was a cop and lived there.

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So he just burst right in the door.

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And I said.

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To. My buddy, did you have a gun?

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Well, you know, it was in the bedroom.

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I'm like, You're lucky because, you know,
if one of those people,

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one or both of them had nefarious intent,
you were you were had.

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That was it.
And as it was, he was one of these guys.

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He great. Fighter.

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But he's not really so much
the shooter guy.

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And, if he hadn't been able to whip
both guys, who were.

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I think we're both bigger than him.

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He would have just been in trouble, so.

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And if they'd been armed with anything,
he'd have been in trouble.

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So I always remember that.

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First of all, first of all,
what's your first line of defense locks?

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You know,
if people want to get through them,

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they can get through them, but at least
they're not going to sneak through them.

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The instances of people using, lock
picking and, you know,

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being very surreptitious,
that almost only happens in the movies.

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What happens
if somebody wants on the other side

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of your locked door, they kick it,
or they bust a window and reach in?

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Both of those things
are going to at least let you know.

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And if I see a hand,
if I see my front window on my door, bus

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and hand come through, I guarantee I'm
going for my gun right then and there.

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And if it kicks open, well, at least I.

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Know that this.

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Guy is just not soliciting for the girl

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or the Boy Scouts
and that we have a serious problem.

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So that was kind of where
I was going to go with all this.

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Roy is.

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A. Gun.

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If you want to carry it home,
I encourage it.

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Great for you.

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I don't do it
100% of the time, probably 90 plus,

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but I think the bigger picture here
is the fact that

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we have to have layers of security and our

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you and I've talked about this at length,
but I think this is a perfect example.

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Yeah, she had a camera,
but did she have an alarm?

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Did she have a plan?

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Did she have, escape routes and all this
kind of stuff that we've talked about?

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It sounds like
she had one piece of the puzzle

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and the the end take away on this

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little diatribe I'm having
is we're going to violate the gun.

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Right?

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A rule which is a gun is not a magic wand.

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You know,
if somebody is coming in to get you

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and you get your Master
Blaster 5000, that solves a problem.

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Well, it may, it probably will,
but it probably there's a good

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chance it won't either. So,

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you know.

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When we're talking about this,
I don't want folks to get to

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it wrapped around the axle about like you
said, you know, which which caliber,

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which grain. Wait. Which load?

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If you want to carry a gun, great.

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But a gun is going to be useless
if you leave your doors unlocked

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and your shrubs are overgrown
and there's no lights

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and you don't have a dog
and and all these factors.

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So I kind of covered
about 52 different points there.

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Right.

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So which one would you like to take going
forward.

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Well, you know, we both arrested burglars.

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I know I have
and I would always engage them,

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you know, there they are

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sitting in the back seat of your car with
handcuffs on, looking forlorn, you know.

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Yeah.

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And and, you know, it's like, hey, man,
what brought you into this line of work,

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you know,

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and just talk about things like that
and the overwhelming majority of them.

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I mean, I can never think of a single
one I ever arrested who said, well,

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I always try to go to houses where
I think there's somebody home, you know?

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I mean, because that's all.

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It's like
they do not want to be interrupted.

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They don't want to come inside
while you're there.

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And the other thing, though, is that

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most of them are lazy
and they're not professionals,

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and they really do to hit
targets of opportunity.

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And I've had many of them tell me, oh,
I just kind of go door to door,

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you know,

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I knock on the door, somebody answers it,
I give them some bullshit answer

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about something.

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I go on to the next house,
if I knock on the door and nobody answers,

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I reach down, try the doorknob and,
you know, and it's like.

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And it's amazing the number of times
the door opens that,

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you know, or the window right
next to the door is open, you know.

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And so, yeah, that's right.

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We called those
volunteer victims, you know,

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that's what you are.

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So, yeah,
you got to not be a volunteer victim,

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but I, you know,
the only thing I can stress, though,

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is that your people say, they tell me,
they say, oh, well, you're just paranoid.

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It's like, well, no, I'm not actually,
I'm just cautious and prepared.

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I mean. Exactly. Are you are you paranoid?

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If you have a, a first aid trauma kit,
you know, I don't know

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if these people would say that same thing
then, you know, are you paranoid?

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If you have one of those,
what are they called?

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I'd heart,
you know, starter machines like you.

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See where are you?

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Paranoid. What, are you afraid
you're going to have a heart attack?

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Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

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You know, I mean, what are you afraid
someone's going to break in your house?

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Absolutely. You know, and. And.

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Yeah,
I'll be the first to admit the classic,

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you know, boys kicking in my front door
right now.

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You hear these nine, 11 calls, right?

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You know, he's kicking in my front door.

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He's reaching inside, you know?

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Help! Please help. Or, you know.
And then there's.

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You hear him come in,
and then the phone goes dead, right?

327
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Yeah. I always like to hear the ones
where you go.

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He's coming in the front door right now.

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He's inside.

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Stop! Go away!

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Bang bang bang bang bang.

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And then there's a pause.

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You may. Want to have the corner.
And root.

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Yeah. And then they say,

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I just had to shoot him.

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Is that okay? You know,

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that's like, of course we're all
applauding and laughing and saying,

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yeah, you know, that was a good ending.

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But I think on a practical side of this
too, is the the classic, you know, like

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if the guy comes to your front door
with a burglar mask on, right,

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and a and a black bag and black gloves,
and he's dressed in a black, you know.

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Well, okay, that's you know. Hello.

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Could this be a burglar
right there. Right.

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And but the one that's going to get you

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is the one that pulls up
in front of your house in a car,

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and he's got a sticker sign on the side
that says delivery driver, right.

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Which I could get mad at.

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You know, the local store in five minutes,
you know,

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hey, can you print out a sticker
that says delivery driver, right.

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And he walks up to your door wearing,
you know, one of those lime green,

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you know, vests like workers wear, right?

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And, and a baseball hat
that says the hook ups.

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Right? You could say anything.

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And you see him on your camera
and he knocks on the door holding a box.

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What are 99% of us going to do?

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Yeah, yeah, we're going to open the door.

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And so you just opened your door
to a stranger,

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you know, to come into your house.

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Now, if things go to hell

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right then
and you have a 38 in your pocket,

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you have a much better chance that
if you don't have a 38 in your pocket.

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Yeah. I mean, it's as simple as that.
Yeah.

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It is.

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And I want to talk about,
this specific incident

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that we're talking about,
the Nancy Guthrie, situation.

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That guy was there
to apparently kidnap her.

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So that's
that is a teeny tiny, minuscule fraction

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of of home invasions,
kidnaping for ransom.

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There are home invasions that,
especially in more urban areas

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where they know,
you know, you've got valuables.

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But what the media doesn't tell you
the majority of the time in those cases,

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they involve drugs.

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They know you've got drugs,
you got drug money and some guns.

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So that's what
those home invasions generally happen.

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Now they do sometimes just hit
John Q citizen

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who seems to have a nice house and wears
a lot of, you know, fancy jewelry.

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But again, those instances are a lot
less than what you would think.

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The other thing

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I was going to talk about was sometimes
you don't even get the door open.

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We had an incident here in Indiana
that you may have seen in the news

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about a month ago,
a judge who was presiding over a trial

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of some motorcycle, guys,
somebody knocked on his door.

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He said, who is it?
And they shot him, right?

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Him and his wife right through the door.

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So, you know, that whole scenario
of why I opened the door?

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And there he was in his burglar outfit,
which I wanted to sidebar there.

387
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Right.

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You know, I've never caught anybody
in a burglar uniform.

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I mean, they've always got a mask
and a crowbar in the bag,

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and I've never caught anybody like that.

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But usually they have, like, a broken
screwdriver, you know, and, and,

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and a beanie, you know,
and they smell like transients.

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So. Yeah.

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Well, because they are or they're,
they're meth addicts and that's just how

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they do their business.

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But anyway,
the point I was trying to get was

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and we
we talk about this a lot, people that,

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the general public has this idea

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and it's generally from television
how things go down.

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And that's not how it goes down.

401
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You got to you got to understand that,
like any dangerous,

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situation,
it happens fast, it happens unexpected.

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And it may not be exactly as you expect.

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So when you're planning,

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your layers of security, you're protective
and your response to, dangerous things,

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including using a gun, you need to be
thinking about what if it's three people?

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What if it's, a young teenager
who looks to be about eight?

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Those people is, I mean, not an eight year
old, but.

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You know, Younger looking teenager.

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They might mean you deadly harm, too.

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So these are all these, situations
you need to be thinking

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outside of what, television
and the movies portray.

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These incidents are like.

414
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Yeah, it's really interesting.

415
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You're exactly right, too. It's
it's layers.

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I've talked to burglars
who say I look out front.

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If I see lights that come
on, I go to the next house.

418
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Exactly.

419
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If I see bars on the window,
I go to the next house

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because they're lazy, right?

421
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If I go to the door, a dog barks.

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I'm out of there. Ever, you know,

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I mean, it's as simple as that.

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And so, as you said,
keep your hedges trimmed,

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put automatic lights out front,
have a ring camera, and for God's sake,

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pay the $10 a month and have them
so they they save the recordings.

427
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You know, evidently with this Guthrie
thing, she didn't have that program.

428
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So it took a while for the cops
to be able to recover the videos.

429
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And, but yeah, I have that multiple level.

430
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You know, I do have a dog.

431
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Great.

432
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Best burglar alarm in the world
and all that kind of stuff.

433
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But ultimately, ultimately,
you have the final say.

434
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And so you can you can rely
on these things, but is the old trust.

435
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But verify, you know,
I mean, maybe if I hear my

436
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I have several cameras,

437
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ring cameras on my driveway
and around the property.

438
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And so if one of them goes ding now.

439
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Okay,
I know some. I just entered the gate right

440
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in of a different another one goes, ding!

441
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Now I know he's coming down my driveway.

442
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Right.

443
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And then if it goes ding as he's
walking up

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my front door,
I know there's somebody at the door.

445
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And so that gives you a chance to be
prepared, you know, check the camera.

446
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Who is this?
Is it a delivery driver? Do I know him?

447
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:40,040
You know, I mean, if it's if it's Keith,
your favorite U.P.S.

448
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driver. Well, great.

449
00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:43,200
You know, let the dog out.

450
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He'll come, feed him a biscuit.

451
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You know, every.

452
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It's a happy hug often. Right?

453
00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:52,320
But if it's a car, especially
with this rise of Amazon's sort of the.

454
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I think they're like freelance
delivery drivers.

455
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Yeah. I mean, you know I've had him here.

456
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Now remember
we're a third of a mile off the road.

457
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It's it's very dark. On my property.

458
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You've been here right.

459
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And but 930 at night out here.

460
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Ding the camera that here.

461
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Ding another camera.

462
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And I look outside.

463
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We have live video
surveillance around the property.

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And I'll look up at the monitor
and there'll be some decrepit looking,

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beat up piece of crap SUV,
you know, with a taped on bumper,

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pulling up in front of my house

467
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and then some, you know, 300 pound
cigaret, smoking,

468
00:23:34,360 --> 00:23:38,400
shuffling step guy will get out,
open up the back,

469
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,760
fumble around for a minute,
come out, kind of look around.

470
00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:45,360
If I'm lucky,
they'll just put it down there, you know?

471
00:23:45,360 --> 00:23:46,400
Yeah, but

472
00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:50,000
or else I'll shuffle up to the front door
and then the lights come on.

473
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:51,240
Of course. Right.

474
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:54,360
And then they take a picture
and then they shuffle back and they leave.

475
00:23:54,360 --> 00:23:56,840
Well it's like, well, who is this guy?

476
00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:57,840
You know.

477
00:23:57,840 --> 00:23:58,960
Yeah, we don't know.

478
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:02,400
I've actually gone out
and greeted them a few times because

479
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:06,840
they pull up like that a tight well,
I walk out the front door

480
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:10,680
and I go around the corner
and they won't expect me, you know,

481
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,960
and I've many times, you know,
they kind of go, whoa, you know?

482
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:18,440
And I smile and I have my hand
in my pocket and I'd say, who are you?

483
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:20,440
You know?
And they said, oh, I'm a delivery.

484
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:23,440
Here's Amazon. Here you go, sir.
Sorry, sir.

485
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:25,200
You know. Yeah.

486
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,560
So I mean, that's the reality.

487
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:29,360
You can't assume anything.

488
00:24:29,360 --> 00:24:31,240
You can never assume anything.

489
00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:33,120
That's all there is to it.

490
00:24:33,120 --> 00:24:35,000
So you have to have what is it?

491
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:36,960
You know, you have the color codes.

492
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:41,400
You know, you have to always be in yellow
and be prepared to go to orange.

493
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,400
Yeah. Really fast. You know.

494
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:45,640
That's the way I operate.

495
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:49,080
You know, around my house, I'm in yellow
and something we haven't talked about.

496
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:52,400
Both of us, when we're out in the yard
generally are 100% armed.

497
00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:53,880
I figured that's

498
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:57,720
when the problem's going to start
because I'm behind locked doors, windows.

499
00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:01,240
I've got cameras, surveillance
dog, the whole shooting match.

500
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:05,400
But when I'm out mowing
and I've got my little headphones on and,

501
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,400
you know, I'm just trying to get
those nice straight lines.

502
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:09,920
I'm only a few feet from the street.

503
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,920
If somebody wanted to do something
ugly to me,

504
00:25:13,120 --> 00:25:16,320
I would have about that much notification.

505
00:25:16,360 --> 00:25:18,040
You're in a different situation.

506
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:22,120
They've really got to work hard
and you got a lot of clear fields of fire.

507
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:23,840
I don't have that.

508
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:25,800
I may
literally be standing next to the street.

509
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,880
So again, that's just that's my choice.

510
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,680
I live in a suburb, a nice suburban
neighborhood that's pretty safe.

511
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:35,840
But still, it's that idea of it
may not be in the middle of night

512
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:39,400
with the guy with the mask
and the crowbar, you know, in this case,

513
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:41,440
Nancy, Nancy Guthrie, he had.

514
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:43,160
It looked like a vest on.

515
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:43,920
He was warned.

516
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:45,480
You know, if you go to your door
and you see a guy

517
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,560
wearing black
nitrile gloves and a face mask,

518
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,040
a thinking person would say, why?

519
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:53,120
This is unusual.

520
00:25:53,120 --> 00:25:55,560
I've never seen him son doing that.

521
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:56,560
So I. Don't know.

522
00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:57,440
Did he break in?

523
00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,760
Do we know or how did he get in?

524
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:00,720
Do we know he did.

525
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,240
I think the door was locked
and he forced his way in.

526
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:08,560
So, you know, as if if we go on
that assumption again, what was she doing?

527
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:09,800
Was she standing on the other side?

528
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:13,080
And oh my goodness, here
you are in my home.

529
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:15,240
Or was she asleep?

530
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:18,280
And there's another thing
I want to talk about the nightstand gun.

531
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,280
And I have one,
but I think that's another one

532
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:25,000
of those things that people just assume
because there's a gun there.

533
00:26:25,360 --> 00:26:28,360
You'll wake up in time and, you know,
you and I, I've talked about this a lot,

534
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:32,600
and he will be perfectly silhouetted
like a b27 and I will say, stop.

535
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:33,200
I an armed

536
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:37,080
I'm an armed citizen and you need to,
you know, it doesn't work that way.

537
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:40,880
And I'm sure you work cases like this
where people have literally woken

538
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:42,640
up in the middle of night
with somebody on top of them.

539
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:44,920
Absolutely.

540
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,680
You know, it it it even.

541
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:51,920
With, with all of your preparation,
think that through to that, you know,

542
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,920
if they're coming in to steal, to rob, to,

543
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:59,200
abduct you just because you've got that 38
in the nightstand,

544
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,520
you may not even have a chance to get to
it, or you may have to fight for your life

545
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:03,480
to get to it.

546
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:07,000
So I'm just trying to run these scenarios
that we've actually seen,

547
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,560
actually in the field and what crime
really looks like, because frankly,

548
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:15,040
most people think they know
and they just don't know it.

549
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,560
It really
it rarely looks like it looks on TV.

550
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:22,480
And you're right, the sexual, attackers,
you know, they are stealthy.

551
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:25,440
They do want to enter
when someone's there, you know,

552
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,440
they will come in and do
just what you're saying.

553
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,600
I remember there was a case one
time, and I didn't work it,

554
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:32,920
but I was a uniformed officer.

555
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:36,640
I, responded to one of the initial calls,
and it was like an 80 year

556
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:40,160
old lady, and she was, on her bed
and woke up like that.

557
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:45,760
And there was actually this, you know,
I her dirtbag who was raping her. And,

558
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:48,120
she had a,

559
00:27:48,120 --> 00:27:52,200
32 H&R break magnum
that her husband had bought

560
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:56,760
when they got married,
like 67 years before he had died.

561
00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:01,080
And I swear to you, she picked it up
and held it up to his head,

562
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:05,400
and she clicked it four times
before one of the rounds went off.

563
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:07,680
Wow. Well, call it off.

564
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:08,920
Yeah, of the ammo.

565
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,920
And it was 65 years old or something, so.

566
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,880
But yeah, I mean to
she was lucky she had the gun there.

567
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,080
She had the presence of mind to do it
and all that kind of stuff.

568
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,720
But I think, you know, let's talk
about some mechanics too here, because,

569
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,680
one of the comments in the video,
the guy said,

570
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:29,040
you know, after after listening to
you guys about carrying guns

571
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:32,760
and hearing
about this case of this recent kidnaping,

572
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,600
he said, I've decided that I am going to
carry a gun when I'm at home.

573
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,680
But his palette of firearms is limited.

574
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:44,640
You know, he's got, like, a sporting
shotgun and a bolt action hunting rifle.

575
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,160
But evidently one of his kids
gave him a sig.

576
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,600
Two, two, six,
one time, million years ago.

577
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,000
So. Well, that's a full size
holster pistol.

578
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:53,880
You know, like a cop would carry it.

579
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:55,720
He said, well,
I'm going to start carrying that.

580
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:57,560
What do you think?

581
00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:01,400
And and I told him, I said, you know,
you could do whatever you want to do,

582
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:05,400
but that's going to get old in
about a half an hour,

583
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,160
you know,
especially if you're in your home

584
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:11,160
in your jammies or something, you know,
what are you going to do?

585
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:16,200
And so as far as the mechanics of it,
I think a small gun, a small auto,

586
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:19,800
if you're willing to practice a little
bit, otherwise a small frame revolver,

587
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:20,720
it doesn't matter.

588
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:22,960
Rossi, Taurus, Smith and Wesson, Ruger.

589
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:23,760
I don't care.

590
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:25,920
But get one.

591
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:27,920
If it's 22, that's fine.

592
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:29,480
It that none of that matters to me.

593
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,760
But if you get a gun, get familiar
with it.

594
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:36,520
Practice a little bit,
and then be be dedicated

595
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,840
to having it either
near you or in your pocket.

596
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,360
And I don't mean in the other room.

597
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:46,640
And I know people say, oh, well,
you know, I'm reading in the bedroom

598
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,080
and I'm going to go out to the kitchen
and get some water,

599
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:50,600
and then I'm going to come back.

600
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:51,280
And you know what?

601
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,280
I promise you
that's when it's going to happen.

602
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,040
You know,

603
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:59,040
and so you can't predict that,

604
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,840
you can play the odds.

605
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:05,720
Chances are good that you probably can go
and get a drink of water and come back,

606
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:06,360
you know?

607
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:11,280
But there's that one time, you know,
and I have certainly been surprised.

608
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,080
I know you have been surprised.

609
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:18,280
And the fact that I was prepared to fight
if I had to, that meant a lot, I did.

610
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,600
I have to say one more thing, too,
about that whole bedside gun thing.

611
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:25,440
You know, I mean, you and I are both lucky
we don't have a little kids that.

612
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,200
When don't you know,
when they visit? We lock anything up?

613
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:32,360
I have a bedside gun, among other guns,

614
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:37,320
but my bedside gun
is actually in the drawer.

615
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:40,440
And I do that because

616
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,440
especially as I get a little bit older

617
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,560
when I wake up at night.

618
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:48,240
I really want that.

619
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:54,240
The five seconds or 10s to clear my brain
a little bit, you know,

620
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,840
get your eyes working,
get your hearing going,

621
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:01,080
you know,
make sure you're not making a bad idea.

622
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,760
And some people may argue, well,
if you need that gun,

623
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,640
you might need it right
now. Yes, that's true, you know.

624
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:10,800
But the other side is the next time
you get up at nighttime

625
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:14,400
and it's 230 in the morning
and you've been sleeping for four hours,

626
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,200
and you have to go to the bathroom
or something.

627
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:19,320
Honestly, stop.

628
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:24,240
When you first wake up, really
think about, could you see, can you hear?

629
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:26,720
Are you thinking real clearly?

630
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:30,240
Like, could you really pick up a gun
and manipulate it and engage somebody

631
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:31,080
right then?

632
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:34,520
I mean, maybe if you're 30 years old,
you know, but

633
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:36,840
so that's just something to think about,
you know.

634
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:40,320
So and I don't think people do
because they go back, they default

635
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,360
to that thing you and I always laugh
about, about, oh, it's a perfect burglar.

636
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,360
And he's standing in the hallway
and he's backlit and he's, you know,

637
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,360
and you're dressed up
and you have your body armor, right?

638
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:50,840
And you know.

639
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,560
Yeah. And I'm I that's how I sleep, right?

640
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:55,200
Because I'm tactical.

641
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:55,920
I know.

642
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:57,120
Well, you know, and I

643
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,800
actually this is something else
we should talk about because I,

644
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,040
I wrote this up years and years
and years ago.

645
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:05,240
We were talking about home
carry and stuff like that. And

646
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:06,720
and I

647
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:12,400
advocate and I still do and I have one
is that you just get a little pouch

648
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:16,560
with a neck strap,
and just keep that next to your bed.

649
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,800
And in that I have a bottle of water,
and I have a tourniquet,

650
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:23,800
and I have a big,
just a big water bandage, you know,

651
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:26,800
and I have a pocket knife,

652
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,520
and I have a backup flashlight clip to it.

653
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:33,920
And because when you get up at nighttime,
unless you're somebody

654
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:37,840
that I don't know anybody,
you're going to be in your all togethers.

655
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:41,360
Are you're going to be in your jammies,
or you're going to be in your underwear.

656
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,600
And guess what? There is no pockets.

657
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:45,360
Exactly.

658
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:46,080
You know,

659
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:49,640
and so when you wake up, you just do this
and you just throw this thing

660
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:50,960
over your shoulder.

661
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,680
And because now you have

662
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,720
water, light a knife,

663
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:01,320
water because you get thirsty, really,
especially if something happens, you know,

664
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:06,560
and a bandage, you know, a spare magazine.

665
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,640
And if you're somebody who sleeps
with your phone next to you, then

666
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,640
you can also toss your phone in there
if you want to at night.

667
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:13,840
But think about that.

668
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,640
I also keep electronic ear muffs
next to the bed.

669
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:20,480
Now the electronic earmuffs
are on top of my nightstand,

670
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:21,560
and so

671
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:26,040
if I ever have to go to guns at nighttime
and I've done that a couple of times,

672
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,720
you know, where it's like,
what the heck was going on there? Right?

673
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:29,960
You know, you wake up.

674
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,440
Well, the first thing I do
is put on my electronic earmuffs.

675
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,520
I turn them up
because that gives you a Superman hearing

676
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:39,520
and that if you do have to shoot a gun
or something, you can still hear, right?

677
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,720
And plus it gives you that little

678
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:46,200
oh five count to get your body going.

679
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:49,200
You know, it's like
if you have the wherewithal to reach it,

680
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,120
think about what's going
on, reach over, pick

681
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,760
up, put on your hearing aid
or your protection.

682
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:55,320
Turn it up.

683
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,800
You know your head's starting to clear,
you know.

684
00:33:57,800 --> 00:33:58,040
Yeah.

685
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:01,320
But also, you know, I we're hearing aids
and at nighttime I don't wear them.

686
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:06,240
And so if I get up at nighttime,
I try to respond to something like that.

687
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:06,840
What is like, oh,

688
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:11,120
excuse me, wait just a minute here
while I put my hearing aids in, you know?

689
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:13,320
No, I just grab
just throw them on, turn it up.

690
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,200
I'm laughing because afterwards
the police are on it.

691
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,480
So, Mr. Huntington, what did you hear?

692
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,480
Well, I got up and I heard Lee.

693
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,760
Because that's all we hear
after years of gunfire.

694
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:29,680
It is kind of true. Yeah.

695
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,040
Although you know it's interesting
like a Walmart quick thing.

696
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,960
Sure is like gauge your reaction.

697
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,960
If you're a man a husband
listening to this.

698
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,640
If at nighttime
when your wife reaches over and pokes you

699
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:44,960
when you wake up

700
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:49,600
to look at how you wake up newlyweds,
are you one of those ones

701
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,960
that when your wife touches your shoulder,
you go bang?

702
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,120
You're awake, right?

703
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:58,800
Or are you like a lot of people
that your wife has to basically beat you

704
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:02,040
with their fist,
you know, to get you to come back

705
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:05,040
alive from being dead asleep, you know?

706
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,200
And based on that, you should sort of

707
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:12,200
make some decisions about how you're going
to be carrying your gun at nighttime.

708
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,520
So. Okay. Sorry, I was on a rant.

709
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:16,280
No, no. That's good.

710
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,840
I was going to say people really do
like it when we talk about how we do it.

711
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:23,800
Just as kind of a baseline
and some suggestions that they can apply

712
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:25,560
to their own situation.

713
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:27,200
Let me go back to my bedside.

714
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:30,200
Gun is actually
and I should have looked this up.

715
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:36,720
It's it's a case made by Streamlight,
and it's it's manual.

716
00:35:36,720 --> 00:35:37,760
It's not electronic.

717
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,800
It's got several buttons
and it's it's flat.

718
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:42,080
It fits right in my drawer.

719
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:45,360
And the reason I do that is, is twofold,
like you said, right.

720
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:47,920
Number one,
I want to at least have enough,

721
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:50,120
to be awake enough to

722
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:53,400
know I know what the instinctively
what the combination is.

723
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,880
So at least I have to get up
and get functional enough to think, oh,

724
00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,880
three fingers out here
and now I can get my gun.

725
00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:01,440
The other thing is, is grandkids.

726
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:03,480
We are very careful,

727
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:07,680
and I've talked about my procedure
for making sure you know, that

728
00:36:07,720 --> 00:36:12,200
there aren't any guns lying around, but,
that's another help there, too.

729
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:13,560
And I had to laugh.

730
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,560
I just took stock of my my,

731
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:18,520
dresser and not.

732
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:20,160
It's not, what do you call it?

733
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,760
A little table next to my side of the bed.

734
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:26,160
I don't know how many flashlights
I've got there, but it's too many. But.

735
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:27,880
Oh, that's pretty funny.

736
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,560
But, that's another thing to talk to your.

737
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:34,640
If you if you have a bed, mate, say,
you know, if something happens

738
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:38,080
that I wake up and I'm suddenly
being pummeled in the face

739
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:41,080
or somebody is trying to stab me
or whatever,

740
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:45,240
I'm probably I'm going to try to go
for that gun, but it it may not happen.

741
00:36:45,240 --> 00:36:47,000
I've got more immediate concerns.

742
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,840
But, honey,
you know where the other guns are.

743
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:51,880
Find them and put it in his ear hole

744
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,600
and pull the trigger
until you can't pull it anymore.

745
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,000
So I agree again. That's something.

746
00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:01,320
Another multilayer type thing
of, you know, I've got a plan.

747
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:06,160
For every
virtually every realistic eventuality.

748
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,320
Plus, I'm also flexible and, you know,

749
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:12,120
because because you never can wargame
every scenario.

750
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:15,280
And my final bit,
I will tell you, Roy, and you're always

751
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:19,320
suggesting stuff, to buy
that is is great finds.

752
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:22,320
I think I found one
that you probably already know about, but

753
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,520
have you looked up these, inexpensive

754
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,520
motion activated nightlights?

755
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:28,880
We've.

756
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:33,000
We got some recently
because my wife likes nightlights.

757
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:37,440
Because she gets up more than I do
in the night to, go potty. And,

758
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,160
I finally realized our bedroom to me.

759
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,480
I need to have total darkness to sleep.

760
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,480
And with night lights even out in the hall

761
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,160
in the bathroom, it's like,
this is way too light.

762
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,760
So I found these,

763
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:52,440
motion sensitive lights.

764
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:54,360
And the ones we got
even have an adjustment

765
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:55,800
so you can have them barely on.

766
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,040
Or you can
have them look like it's daylight.

767
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:02,640
And what it does is, is you,
get by them and it'll kick the light on.

768
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:04,640
So we've got one in the bathroom.

769
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:06,480
We've got one on her side of the bed.

770
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:10,320
So if she moves, steps out of bed
or whatever it comes on,

771
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:14,040
and since it's low on the floor,
it doesn't really wake me up at all.

772
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:17,040
But it it illuminates that area where she
she doesn't kick

773
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:20,040
the bed with her foot,
which we've all done.

774
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:23,360
And I got to thinking that, you know,
if I have one of those in the hallway,

775
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,640
because our dog sleeps in our bedroom.

776
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,640
If it's in the hallway,
if if I turn it on bright,

777
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:33,960
if I'm a light enough sleeper,
if it came on, I'd probably wake up.

778
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,040
So there's just one more layer.

779
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:39,360
If they get past my alarm system,
my cameras,

780
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:43,480
you know, my locked
doors, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.

781
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,080
That's just one more layer of protection.

782
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:49,080
So that's that's my home security tip.

783
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:51,800
Security slash convenience tip,

784
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,600
those, inexpensive,

785
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:56,400
motion sensor night lights.

786
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,080
So nothing wrong with that.

787
00:38:58,080 --> 00:38:59,760
And if you have,

788
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:03,120
if you don't have lights outside around
your house, you should put lights outside

789
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:03,720
around your house.

790
00:39:03,720 --> 00:39:08,800
Because just like cockroaches,
these guys don't like to be lit right?

791
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,720
So if you have lights
leading up to your front door and stuff,

792
00:39:11,720 --> 00:39:14,720
they don't want to, they'll go next door
where the house is completely dark.

793
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:18,280
But the solar powered motion sensor lights

794
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:22,240
that you can put outside are $5,
$10, right? Yep.

795
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:25,320
So put 2 or 3 of those out there
because then that when they walk in

796
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:28,880
and the lights
come on, people just automatically assume

797
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:32,200
it's like, oh, you know,
do they have a ding dong inside.

798
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,840
Do they you know what's going on here.
So yeah.

799
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:38,280
And you know, plus real men
buy those little furry

800
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:41,280
slippers
that have the LED lights in the toe.

801
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:44,840
And then when you put them on at night,
they come on automatically.

802
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:47,640
I'm just saying. So.

803
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:48,480
Wow. All right.

804
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:49,920
I think we beat it to death.

805
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:51,600
What do you think we have?

806
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:53,520
Let me add one more tip I just thought of.

807
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:57,120
I was out recently at a friend's house
ice fishing, and he's got a very nice

808
00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,800
place down a driveway.
You know what he's got?

809
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:03,920
In addition to cameras like you've got,
he's got a camera facing outbound.

810
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:09,760
To get the license plate because our state
does not require front license plates.

811
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:12,360
And I think about half the states don't.

812
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:16,400
So he's got one facing outbound
so that he'll get a picture of

813
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:20,040
you know if it's a burglary
or whatever it is if somebody is coming in

814
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:21,880
he'll also get a picture of him going out.

815
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:25,520
And pretty easy to get license
plate numbers.

816
00:40:25,720 --> 00:40:27,880
So I really good descriptions.

817
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:29,320
So something to think about.

818
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:30,920
That's actually smart thinking.

819
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:34,200
I know my camera systems, you know,
they get you coming and going, right.

820
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:35,000
Yeah.

821
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:39,840
And I also have the fixed surveillance
cameras that 360 degrees around the house.

822
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:45,000
And so, you know, and people don't think
like I'm in a, a rural area here.

823
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:48,000
Well,
if my walnut grove down by the fence line,

824
00:40:48,240 --> 00:40:51,600
I have some no trespassing
signs facing out,

825
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:56,240
you know, so you smile your own camera,
you know, so that way

826
00:40:56,320 --> 00:41:00,560
people look and they go, well,
maybe I don't want to do this, you know?

827
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:01,680
So. Yeah.

828
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:02,160
All right.

829
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:05,520
Well, that was actually interesting
that we're ready if we do.

830
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:09,200
And remember, if you have questions
please ask a question in the comments.

831
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:14,720
So exactly you can also drop me a line
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832
00:41:14,720 --> 00:41:16,560
And Roy a real quick announcement.

833
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:18,960
I'm pretty tech

834
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:22,680
savvy and I can build websites
and all that stuff, but I hate doing it.

835
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,800
And I know we've had a lot of problems
with the guns

836
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,880
podcast at US website since it's been up.

837
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:32,480
It's just been a real pain in my,
you know what?

838
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,000
I also had a personal site,
Brant Whitcomb,

839
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:39,800
and I never really kept that up,
so I finally tackled all that.

840
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:44,960
If you go to guns podcast, Dot U.S,
you will find all of my writing.

841
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:48,800
You will find any thing that we tell you
link wise.

842
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:52,800
You'll be able to see all the
the podcast episodes.

843
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:57,960
I will say we really it really helps us
if you go to guns magazine.com

844
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:02,840
and watch the podcast or listen
to it, there that that's the big answer.

845
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:06,480
But if I say check out, guns podcast,
you asked for something,

846
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:09,480
a special, you know,

847
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:12,480
bit of information
or if you want to buy our merch.

848
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:14,320
Finally got the store working.

849
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:17,280
I've had several people say I tried
to buy something and it didn't work.

850
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:19,280
And, you know, you're right,
because I tried to.

851
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:20,120
And it just didn't work.

852
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:24,680
So anyway, if you go to guns podcast
dot U.S, it looks different.

853
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:26,120
It's a little bit different.

854
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:30,600
But all the The Great Guns podcast
goodness that you, you know

855
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:31,680
and love is all there.

856
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:36,160
But again, let's say, first and foremost
make sure you go to guns magazine.com,

857
00:42:36,720 --> 00:42:39,400
when you listen or watch the podcast,
that really helps us out.

858
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:45,120
And it helps, the team over at FMG
to keep us coming back week after week.

859
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,160
So anything I missed there right?

860
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:48,600
Nope.

861
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:50,400
I think you covered it.

862
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:51,120
Excellent.

863
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:54,720
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867
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868
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:14,280
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869
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:17,680
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870
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:19,880
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871
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:21,600
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872
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:22,920
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873
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:26,560
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