Is the Nintendo Switch 2 Still Worth $500? | Nontendo Podcast #168

<v Speaker 1>Welcome on into the Non Tender podcast, where back again
<v Speaker 1>for another week. Let's just count with it. We're doing
<v Speaker 1>shorter this week. We keep doing like three hour long
<v Speaker 1>marathon episodes.
<v Speaker 2>Well, in our defense, but there's just a lot to
<v Speaker 2>talk about it and there was a lot of hot
<v Speaker 2>sauce to consume. That is true.
<v Speaker 1>So I am curious though, I am curious if people
<v Speaker 1>like the longer can we do a poet immediately as
<v Speaker 1>we start? I'm curious, And if you're watching this after
<v Speaker 1>the fact, leave it in the comments too, because I'm
<v Speaker 1>going to try and keep this to like an hour
<v Speaker 1>hour and a half because it's supposed to It was
<v Speaker 1>supposed to be an hour at one point. But I'm
<v Speaker 1>curious people like the shorter episodes or the longer episodes?
<v Speaker 2>I mean, who wouldn't want longer episodes?
<v Speaker 1>Well you would think that, But I saw a comment
<v Speaker 1>and I get one guide all the time, but I
<v Speaker 1>did see a comment that was like, I used to
<v Speaker 1>like this podcast, but I don't get the time.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, well they can just you know, watch as much
<v Speaker 2>and then just did.
<v Speaker 1>So what am I asking, like, do they do they
<v Speaker 1>like the long longer episodes or shorter episodes longer, and
<v Speaker 1>they know what that means, like an hour, hour and
<v Speaker 1>a half or like two and a half hours. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>welcome on everybody. I'm really excited to be here, joined
<v Speaker 1>as always by Sully and Night. Also, we have Breton
<v Speaker 1>on the ones and tubes out there in the studio,
<v Speaker 1>and we actually have added a monitor in here that
<v Speaker 1>you guys can't see, so I can see him all
<v Speaker 1>the time, like a window into the joyous facial world
<v Speaker 1>that is Breenton. I said, I said, facial laughed. You
<v Speaker 1>can show yourself when I talk about you. You know,
<v Speaker 1>that's just a silly little goose.
<v Speaker 2>This is a silly little I read that in this Condoms.
<v Speaker 1>Okay podcast. All right, Well, we already have a pull
<v Speaker 1>up and we already have like over one hundred votes.
<v Speaker 1>They're saying that everyone, what's the percentage? Well, I might
<v Speaker 1>try and keep it short at today.
<v Speaker 2>We'll see. I'll leave it up for a little bit.
<v Speaker 1>I'm finally not sick, but I'm so far behind and everything.
<v Speaker 1>I gotta beat him ups. Video out yesterday, which I'm
<v Speaker 1>really happy about it, very nice. I like that video.
<v Speaker 1>Indiana Jones, Tomadatchi Life and Pragmata Well, speaking of we
<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to touch the button yet. We have
<v Speaker 1>a lot to talk about today, mostly the price hike,
<v Speaker 1>which I hate to say, I told you so, you did.
<v Speaker 1>I think it was two episodes ago.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was discussed.
<v Speaker 1>We discussed the possibility of a price hike that was
<v Speaker 1>already rumored. Yeah, yes, well it was rumored because the
<v Speaker 1>rest of the industry was doing it. And then there
<v Speaker 1>was some sparks with that that that guy that used
<v Speaker 1>to work at Nintendo going on Kitt and Christa and
<v Speaker 1>essentially saying, yeah, they're probably gonna do it. You know,
<v Speaker 1>that's nothing official, but it definitely seemed like it. And
<v Speaker 1>after doing our episode, we kind of came to that conclusion,
<v Speaker 1>and then we also pulled chat.
<v Speaker 2>They were like, eighty percent it's going to happen.
<v Speaker 1>It happened pretty So what I'm saying is, if you
<v Speaker 1>watch the podcast, you already knew about this.
<v Speaker 2>That's true.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you guys, guys are in the know. I know,
<v Speaker 1>we're just behind now talking about it actually happened. But
<v Speaker 1>we're going to talk about it. And the main thing
<v Speaker 1>I want to talk about is is it's still worth
<v Speaker 1>five hundred dollars because I tweeted that and it got
<v Speaker 1>a lot of mixed results. It was very controversial apparently,
<v Speaker 1>and I want to I want to break it down again.
<v Speaker 1>Although I feel like a little bit of a broken
<v Speaker 1>record at this point because I've been talking about this
<v Speaker 1>system being worth its price and my opinion that I
<v Speaker 1>thought it was going to be five hundred to begin with,
<v Speaker 1>So I feel like my opinion should already be kind
<v Speaker 1>of obvious.
<v Speaker 2>But we'll get everybody's opinion. Of course, we'll break it down.
<v Speaker 1>But before we get to that, I think I want
<v Speaker 1>to change that the animation. I think I want to
<v Speaker 1>classic what would you change it? Two weeks of doing this,
<v Speaker 1>we got to keep it going. Oh, by the way,
<v Speaker 1>happy four years of Nontenders, Right, yeah, I think we
<v Speaker 1>should we should address that before we end of the game.
<v Speaker 3>Yes, say you god, how do you feel about four
<v Speaker 3>years of this podcast?
<v Speaker 2>I can't believe it's been four years.
<v Speaker 1>I so I keep getting one guide in the in
<v Speaker 1>the Patreon episode for today, we're going.
<v Speaker 2>To be what is it?
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna be going over the wildest I hate comments. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>we've gotten so far, so yeah, I don't know. That's
<v Speaker 1>a whole other tangent but the internet has been trying
<v Speaker 1>to drag me recently on a bunch of different avenues,
<v Speaker 1>and it's I don't understand any of it. So we've
<v Speaker 1>got a bunch of hate comments. But one I saw
<v Speaker 1>the other day was something about the only reason I
<v Speaker 1>watched the podcast is to watch would give up on
<v Speaker 1>another project.
<v Speaker 2>Or something like that.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's been four years, Like at what point, Like
<v Speaker 1>am I good?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?
<v Speaker 1>At what point did I like really try that? Podcasts
<v Speaker 1>are not a decade?
<v Speaker 2>No? Do it once a week is a lot of
<v Speaker 2>the amount.
<v Speaker 1>Of comments I see about like how I'm doing on
<v Speaker 1>the podcast, or like the way that I do you
<v Speaker 1>sit here in two Yeah, you try to try.
<v Speaker 3>And he's got like a team that's like funneling thousands
<v Speaker 3>of dollars into you and investing into you to do it,
<v Speaker 3>and they're taking care of everything. You used the poster boy,
<v Speaker 3>it's not easy.
<v Speaker 1>We do these live so like Live, I need to
<v Speaker 1>narrate a show, I need to keep a show structure,
<v Speaker 1>and like sometimes I make mistakes, So sometimes I like
<v Speaker 1>don't do a good job. But for the most part,
<v Speaker 1>I think I do a pretty good job. Should hire
<v Speaker 1>content live? Yeah, Ira, what No? I don't like Obviously,
<v Speaker 1>that's why I like doing it live because it's a
<v Speaker 1>challenge because like I see a vision in my head
<v Speaker 1>of like this is how the episode is probably going
<v Speaker 1>to go, and then it's me trying to like create
<v Speaker 1>that and flow that. Obviously, with like Brenton's help cutting
<v Speaker 1>the show, you guys help making it not boring.
<v Speaker 2>And we do it live.
<v Speaker 3>Most people do their podcast not live, like all the topic.
<v Speaker 2>Because it's way easier. Does Joe Rogan do his live?
<v Speaker 2>I doubt no. Way the wild stuff that comes out
<v Speaker 2>of that show, yeah you can't.
<v Speaker 1>But that's that's the other thing too that I think
<v Speaker 1>you just mentioned is that you're not just the host
<v Speaker 1>by in front of the camera. You do everything behind
<v Speaker 1>the scenes as well. Oh thank you for so much.
<v Speaker 1>It's just everyone here has a part as an Oh
<v Speaker 1>you mean like putting together the title, the thumbnail, the
<v Speaker 1>episode documentary. Yeah, everything, But like that's that's I think
<v Speaker 1>what the strongest point of this podcast is is because
<v Speaker 1>everyone has such an equal hand in like getting everything
<v Speaker 1>now and right now.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like a.
<v Speaker 1>Large reason why this show is better than ever now,
<v Speaker 1>and I truly believe it is everybody working on this
<v Speaker 1>show has a role to play.
<v Speaker 2>Before it was just you and Bob doing everything fifty
<v Speaker 2>to fifty.
<v Speaker 1>Well, to be honest, and we've talked about this a lot,
<v Speaker 1>but the deal was that I would do everything to
<v Speaker 1>get Bob involved. I just took.
<v Speaker 2>Equity just for showing up.
<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, he did a lot as far as like
<v Speaker 1>bringing his presence, his audience. He was one hundred percent
<v Speaker 1>invested in the episodes when he was there. Yeah, and
<v Speaker 1>like he like was passionate about it. He also did
<v Speaker 1>the branding and he would do any new much that
<v Speaker 1>we had. So I don't want to underplay what he
<v Speaker 1>was doing because he was like one hundred percent. He
<v Speaker 1>was my business partner and I couldn't done it without him.
<v Speaker 1>But as far as like all stuff I just described,
<v Speaker 1>it was still yeah I was, but now you have
<v Speaker 1>more of the help than you Now the help is
<v Speaker 1>a lot easier for sure. And yeah, I think you
<v Speaker 1>said too like it's become a much higher tiered podcast.
<v Speaker 1>I definitely feel that way, And I mean I can
<v Speaker 1>see the production value increase more and more as this
<v Speaker 1>goes along, other than when it hits The Basement series,
<v Speaker 1>which you know wasn't my favorite, but it is nice
<v Speaker 1>to see how many times I did the episode with
<v Speaker 1>Kim and o'roy there.
<v Speaker 2>It's so sweet to see that. Honestly, I love.
<v Speaker 1>Thank you Expressman for making that. Thank you express Moon,
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate it so much.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and thank you guys for sticking around for four years.
<v Speaker 3>And I've only been here for a couple of months,
<v Speaker 3>but I appreciate it.
<v Speaker 2>You know, you guys. I want to be sat here
<v Speaker 2>today with this guy.
<v Speaker 1>I would have never met Knight, yeah, or would or
<v Speaker 1>Pat or Red or usif that is true.
<v Speaker 2>True.
<v Speaker 1>And when I sat down and that one video and
<v Speaker 1>I was like, you know, if I keep doing this,
<v Speaker 1>We're going to meet new faces. We're going to meet
<v Speaker 1>new people, people that I don't even know. I had
<v Speaker 1>no idea at that point. I was talking about all
<v Speaker 1>of you guys. But I love how close we will
<v Speaker 1>become and the family that will go here in the financials.
<v Speaker 2>I love it.
<v Speaker 1>I love you guys, and yeah, thank you for the
<v Speaker 1>four years. It really does mean a lot. Brenton's doing
<v Speaker 1>a heart in the camera, but he didn't cut to
<v Speaker 1>himself again to do it.
<v Speaker 2>Man, he's doing it for you. Is private? Will me? Oh,
<v Speaker 2>thank you.
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate it. But yeah, I love you guys. Thank
<v Speaker 1>you so much for everybody, especially the Patreons. Oh yeah,
<v Speaker 1>the patres What I do without them?
<v Speaker 2>All? Right? Games, So what have we been playing? I
<v Speaker 2>will go first for it, will I?
<v Speaker 1>Where's my controller? Uh?
<v Speaker 2>Is this your little shop segment? Right now? It's just
<v Speaker 2>the games he's been playing.
<v Speaker 1>Oh.
<v Speaker 2>I was going to show the games I've been playing,
<v Speaker 2>but I guess I've lost it. Well.
<v Speaker 1>In my episode yesterday, I talked about Indiana Jones, which
<v Speaker 1>was one that I couldn't talk about last week. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>been playing that, really enjoying that. If you want my
<v Speaker 1>full thoughts, you can go and watch that episode. But
<v Speaker 1>the thing that I really wanted to say last week
<v Speaker 1>was just how gorgeous it was.
<v Speaker 2>Like, it's a phenomenal looking game.
<v Speaker 1>Can't believe how good it looks, and it's all fully
<v Speaker 1>on the cart so it's a great game to pick
<v Speaker 1>up and support. Really really happy with it. The other
<v Speaker 1>one I wanted to mention was Mixtape. Oh, because there
<v Speaker 1>has been so much controversy around Mixtape, and I really
<v Speaker 1>wanted because it's on switch To it's twenty bucks, I
<v Speaker 1>really wanted to check it out before this episode so
<v Speaker 1>that I.
<v Speaker 2>Could have an opinion on it.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I didn't get a chance to play it
<v Speaker 1>until today, Okay, so I was cramming it today and
<v Speaker 1>I played it for an hour. So all right, let
<v Speaker 1>me actually let me pull up a little bit of
<v Speaker 1>gameplay of this game so we can talk about it.
<v Speaker 1>So I haven't got any articles about this, but the
<v Speaker 1>controversy around this game has been wild. Essentially that it's
<v Speaker 1>not an actual game. It's like a visual It's essentially
<v Speaker 1>a movie. It's a two and a half three hour
<v Speaker 1>long movie that you have control over at times. So
<v Speaker 1>like here in this section, this section, So all right,
<v Speaker 1>let me kind of explain the game. It's called Mixtape
<v Speaker 1>because the main protagonist loves making mixtapes. Okay, Like her
<v Speaker 1>dream job is that she wants to be a music
<v Speaker 1>super advisor on like movies and TV shows and like
<v Speaker 1>build the soundtrack the soundtrack, right, So this game is
<v Speaker 1>her building a soundtrack to her life. So she'll be like,
<v Speaker 1>here's the next song, and she'll introduce it and then
<v Speaker 1>you play out that song. So this was one of
<v Speaker 1>the songs. It literally went for like three minutes and
<v Speaker 1>all you could do is you could spam like head crashing.
<v Speaker 1>You could spam like touching the light in the car. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>so you have control over that. But if you put
<v Speaker 1>the controller down, the game would keep going. They would
<v Speaker 1>just be sat there quietly right in the car, which
<v Speaker 1>would be funny in its own right.
<v Speaker 2>So it is. It's just it's a three hour interactive movie.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, and when like this part here, I played this part,
<v Speaker 1>and I actually did put the controller down because I
<v Speaker 1>wanted to know if it actually did play itself. And
<v Speaker 1>it does, okay, And if you wanted to take control,
<v Speaker 1>you could spin the card around and you could like
<v Speaker 1>move where it goes. But like having the assisted steering
<v Speaker 1>on in Mariokott, you can't. You literally can't mess up.
<v Speaker 1>There's no way of messing up. So it does play itself. Now,
<v Speaker 1>now that I've explained all that, I wanted to explain
<v Speaker 1>it because I love the Walking Dead Telltale series.
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, that game was very much like and at the.
<v Speaker 1>Time people called it a playable movie, and they would
<v Speaker 1>say that in a degrading way. That would be like joh,
<v Speaker 1>play right, And that's how I felt. So I honestly
<v Speaker 1>I went to play this because I wanted to defend
<v Speaker 1>it and be like, this is a Walking Dead situation whatever.
<v Speaker 1>I guess solo after my hour of playing it, which
<v Speaker 1>is apparently almost half the game, I have to agree
<v Speaker 1>with most of the backlash. Well, I mean, it's it's
<v Speaker 1>got nineties vibes. It's definitely trying to tell a story.
<v Speaker 1>It's definitely like a like an artsy like niche genre
<v Speaker 1>of a thing.
<v Speaker 2>Is this story at least good entertaining?
<v Speaker 1>It's not bad. I wasn't like, were you hooked? I
<v Speaker 1>was hooked in some of like these moments. I was like,
<v Speaker 1>that's pretty cool, like the way it's telling the story
<v Speaker 1>and talking about music, the way it would cut away
<v Speaker 1>from the game. The overarching story is that this girl
<v Speaker 1>has booked a ticket to go to New York, but
<v Speaker 1>her friends want her to go on a road trip,
<v Speaker 1>and it's kind of her like explaining to them why
<v Speaker 1>she wants.
<v Speaker 2>To go to New York. Coming of age.
<v Speaker 1>It's very coming of age, So it is it's good.
<v Speaker 1>This part grossed me out. You control their tongues. That
<v Speaker 1>that was very good. Who's kissing who?
<v Speaker 2>I don't remember. I won't spoil it. I'm never gonna
<v Speaker 2>play this game. I keep in mind again I played
<v Speaker 2>it for an hour.
<v Speaker 1>I did find myself when a cut scene would start
<v Speaker 1>pulling out my phone to distract myself because I was
<v Speaker 1>getting a little bored. So it's I fully expected to
<v Speaker 1>be in defense of this game. I fully expected probably
<v Speaker 1>thought it was going to be like The Walking Dead.
<v Speaker 1>I thought it would be like a Walking Dead thing.
<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, because everyone said that that was a
<v Speaker 1>playable movie, and like you have so much controlling wait,
<v Speaker 1>like you controlled the destiny this.
<v Speaker 2>I agree.
<v Speaker 1>The game plays itself. You don't actually need to do anything.
<v Speaker 1>You can sit back and watch it happen. If you engage,
<v Speaker 1>it's gimmicky and it's fun. It's like, oh, I'm hitting
<v Speaker 1>the light in tune with the music. That's what you
<v Speaker 1>don't have to and you don't get anything for doing gotcha?
<v Speaker 1>So I yeah, I do actually have to agree a
<v Speaker 1>little bit, and I do. The reason why it blew
<v Speaker 1>up is because IGN gave it a ten out of ten.
<v Speaker 1>Ten out paid for you a little bit mad at
<v Speaker 1>the rating. So and I'm the first person sometimes to
<v Speaker 1>defend IGN's reviews, especially when they come from my boy.
<v Speaker 1>Logan ten out of ten is who reviewed Logan? No,
<v Speaker 1>someone else guy, But ten out of ten is I
<v Speaker 1>don't get that it is not a masterpiece? Is it
<v Speaker 1>a ten out of ten for an interactive movie game?
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't think I've.
<v Speaker 1>Really seen another one that's like this level of like
<v Speaker 1>literally a movie that you can somewhat engage with. So like,
<v Speaker 1>I guess it's the best one. And it's genre.
<v Speaker 3>Well yeah, I mean, how many games like this are
<v Speaker 3>out there where there's literally.
<v Speaker 1>No ad compared to it to like, I don't.
<v Speaker 2>Know, probably none.
<v Speaker 1>So I mean ten out of ten minutes genre, I
<v Speaker 1>could maybe give it that ten out of ten as
<v Speaker 1>a whole.
<v Speaker 2>I'm not putting it up there with all carena at
<v Speaker 2>a time.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was just maybe you know, yeah, because you
<v Speaker 1>you mentioned a good point where like games like The
<v Speaker 1>Walking Dead or even like I know someone in chat
<v Speaker 1>mentioned like the Minecraft story mode like that at least
<v Speaker 1>like those games, you have control over what can happen. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>and with depending on the story, like your actions you
<v Speaker 1>have concerts, they give you choice. Yeah, this is just
<v Speaker 1>like if like it's basically saying like, oh, if you
<v Speaker 1>want to play a game, you can. But other than that,
<v Speaker 1>just like it looks really like Netflix. It's very pretty.
<v Speaker 1>It looks really like very I love lighting. But yeah,
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot to like here. It's very pretty. If
<v Speaker 1>it's just yeah, two and a half hours. I just
<v Speaker 1>watched the Ever really was a fan of stuff like that.
<v Speaker 3>I mean, The Walking Dead probably the only exception, maybe
<v Speaker 3>because it was like the first time a game I'd
<v Speaker 3>played that had like interactions where you could choose your
<v Speaker 3>path like while you're playing the game. But I remember
<v Speaker 3>Netflix tried to do that with like a show.
<v Speaker 1>I was thinking that if this feels like something that
<v Speaker 1>should have been on Netflix, Netflix game, it should have
<v Speaker 1>been an Netflix game, not necessarily so much a console game.
<v Speaker 2>I see.
<v Speaker 1>But I mean there's definitely some stuff to love here,
<v Speaker 1>and I'm sure there will be people that really enjoy
<v Speaker 1>this experience. I just was going to go into it
<v Speaker 1>to defend what people are saying. People are right. I mean,
<v Speaker 1>it is it is. It is what they were This
<v Speaker 1>is the full game too, Okay, Yeah, the whole game
<v Speaker 1>is two and a half hours, And I would say
<v Speaker 1>that there's not like really a twenty.
<v Speaker 2>Bucks I don't see, yeah maybeud.
<v Speaker 1>I mean more like it depends what you want, because
<v Speaker 1>like if you if you were to buy a four
<v Speaker 1>K movie. If you were to go out and be like,
<v Speaker 1>I want to go buy nobody to on four K
<v Speaker 1>and go home and watch if that's going to cost
<v Speaker 1>you twenty twenty five bucks, yeah, movies twenty bucks. Movie
<v Speaker 1>ticket probably costs bout twenty bucks these days, like rent
<v Speaker 1>a movie, you know, But if you want to compare
<v Speaker 1>it to like Stardy Valley's twenty bucks, that's a different
<v Speaker 1>cont that makes sense. It just depends, you know. But anyway,
<v Speaker 1>that's my thoughts on that. I just wanted to have
<v Speaker 1>an opinion and that's mine.
<v Speaker 2>What about you, guys? What have you been playing? You
<v Speaker 2>want to go? You can go?
<v Speaker 1>I mean, well, I mean I haven't really been playing
<v Speaker 1>anything new some more Tominacci. I realized, like because I
<v Speaker 1>saw a part of your video when it came to
<v Speaker 1>like the creativity of that game, because you reach a
<v Speaker 1>certain point where you realize, like the more I the
<v Speaker 1>more means I have, which is great because you have
<v Speaker 1>more interactions.
<v Speaker 2>But then it's just the recycled did you make me? No?
<v Speaker 2>I saw yet I did get I'm not buying you
<v Speaker 2>red bullets. That is messed up, Doug.
<v Speaker 1>Anyway, I know what I gotta make red to Actually
<v Speaker 1>at this point, I gotta make everyone. I will make
<v Speaker 1>you that actually, but like that's the thing, like when
<v Speaker 1>it comes to creativity. And then we and we talked
<v Speaker 1>about it before, how sacrificing the online functionality for no
<v Speaker 1>Filter is great, but maybe only it can only go
<v Speaker 1>so far into you realize, like I really actually have
<v Speaker 1>to start designing really cool things, and I want to
<v Speaker 1>make it feel more immersive, Like it took me like
<v Speaker 1>thirty minutes to draw a jersey.
<v Speaker 2>Like the other day, like on like the cool custom thing.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it took me quite a bit to do that,
<v Speaker 1>But like, am I willing to do that for everything?
<v Speaker 1>Probably not. That's exactly how I feel. It's like I
<v Speaker 1>have a vision. I can see, like kind I could
<v Speaker 1>maybe do a cheesecake, But do I want to spend
<v Speaker 1>an hour making one cheesecake that I'm going to feed
<v Speaker 1>my guys, like one or two. It's like it's one
<v Speaker 1>item in a very large game of custom stuff.
<v Speaker 2>And then I think, yeah, that's true.
<v Speaker 1>Your videos also said that if you want to like
<v Speaker 1>get the mes earlier, you have to have what me
<v Speaker 1>topia download at me and they want to download me
<v Speaker 1>extra steps and then it breaks anyway. Oh yeah, apparently
<v Speaker 1>a lot of the facial like style. Yeah, so Todaci
<v Speaker 1>And but it is fun. It is fun.
<v Speaker 2>It's funny. I make your own. So do we got
<v Speaker 2>number sills about the game? We do have numbers. We
<v Speaker 2>can talk about that later.
<v Speaker 1>I used to ye about it. We can bring it up.
<v Speaker 1>I mean we're on topic. I don't know if I
<v Speaker 1>put it in my thing though, Oh yeah that I
<v Speaker 1>think the numbers came out like the night after the podcast.
<v Speaker 3>Oh and yeah, literally this night after the podcast, and
<v Speaker 3>that's when intend to increase the price hike, like.
<v Speaker 2>Right right, yeah, right after we ended.
<v Speaker 1>Uh so we had not really a bet, but Sully's
<v Speaker 1>had a he had a prediction. So they had a
<v Speaker 1>prediction that Tomadotta Life would sell better than Polkapia did,
<v Speaker 1>which and I I don't think we were on the
<v Speaker 1>same page.
<v Speaker 3>We were like, no, you guys thought I was crazy,
<v Speaker 3>but then you conceded.
<v Speaker 1>But then the week after I realized, oh, it is
<v Speaker 1>a switch one game, Yeah, so it has.
<v Speaker 3>I still was kind of like, b you told me
<v Speaker 3>that if it didn't outsaw that you're I'm quitting the podcast.
<v Speaker 1>So I said, that's true. You said that to me,
<v Speaker 1>bro So I just pulled this article. Look, I hope
<v Speaker 1>we get out of it what I'm looking for. Tomadoccia Life.
<v Speaker 1>It sold three point eight million in the first two weeks.
<v Speaker 1>Four million in the first two weeks. I don't know
<v Speaker 1>that was the first two days. No, right, No, it
<v Speaker 1>sold two million in the first four days.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Well that's pretty good.
<v Speaker 3>Sold four million units worldwide as of so well, Pocopedia
<v Speaker 3>has sold four million in the first five weeks.
<v Speaker 1>So so far, it's sold four million. Tomadacci sold three
<v Speaker 1>point eight in the first two weeks as of right now,
<v Speaker 1>we don't have a number that's higher than But does
<v Speaker 1>seem like that. I did concede. It's not like astronomically exceed,
<v Speaker 1>but it's still like that. I mean over time, but
<v Speaker 1>I give it over still poke Pia, over time.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you.
<v Speaker 3>Gotta get those switch sales out and with that price hike,
<v Speaker 3>good luck selling.
<v Speaker 1>Well that's true, but the I have it in here somewhere. Actually,
<v Speaker 1>but who was it. I'm gonna bring up my doc. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>let me bring up my dog, because somebody at Nintendo
<v Speaker 1>said that pa Copia is the new switch to staple,
<v Speaker 1>which is yeah, here we go. Nintendo president Shantaro says
<v Speaker 1>POKEMONA is the new staple of switch To. This year
<v Speaker 1>marks the thirty anniversary released Pokemon Red and Green, and
<v Speaker 1>we recognize Pokemon is enjoying blah blah blah blah blah.
<v Speaker 1>We're grateful Pokemon has been released and is driving hardware sales.
<v Speaker 1>Will hope to continue selling the title for a long
<v Speaker 1>time as a new staple for the switch To. So
<v Speaker 1>they're going to be pushing it. Yeah, so it is
<v Speaker 1>a good game. You're going to be coming against your
<v Speaker 1>Tomadacci is going to be coming against.
<v Speaker 3>I would say Pop is better than Tomadocci living Yeah, yeah,
<v Speaker 3>agree with that. But the thing is, you got to
<v Speaker 3>understand that Tamadacci brings out the creativity in people like
<v Speaker 3>that are artists, and there's a lot of those out there.
<v Speaker 2>My god, you can get pretty autistic and.
<v Speaker 1>No, but not like life brod outfits.
<v Speaker 2>It's like next level.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, Kim is super Atzi and she has no
<v Speaker 1>interest in Tomadocci because she is all in on Pocopia,
<v Speaker 1>Like she does not have the time.
<v Speaker 3>Copy is like a blend of animal crossing too, So
<v Speaker 3>it probably hits that it's a more vibrant game you're
<v Speaker 3>in like the world the world is wild Pokemon.
<v Speaker 1>I think Toma Ducie is gonna do really good right now,
<v Speaker 1>and it seems to be doing really good right now.
<v Speaker 1>Again that huge in store base that it has, which
<v Speaker 1>it did have over a relatively small in store based
<v Speaker 1>like you know, in comparison. I think moving forward, as
<v Speaker 1>we go further in a switch to Pecopia will keep
<v Speaker 1>going up. And I think Tom a DUTCHI is gonna
<v Speaker 1>like kind of.
<v Speaker 2>We'll have this conversation a year from now.
<v Speaker 1>But it did way better than I expected, and you would.
<v Speaker 1>I will concede that you were.
<v Speaker 2>Right, right. I will concede that you are I agree
<v Speaker 2>with that.
<v Speaker 1>I can agree with that definitely. Yeah, is that what
<v Speaker 1>you're playing games? I don't play games, you know, That's right.
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I don't I don't know anything about games.
<v Speaker 1>Not a gamer, Yeah, Kylie, Kylie Kardashian is more of
<v Speaker 1>a gamer than you are. Yeah. Yeah, she called Gandorf.
<v Speaker 1>Well she didn't actually, someone in the room said, said Gandorf,
<v Speaker 1>and then.
<v Speaker 3>She said the legend of she's like zeld As the
<v Speaker 3>best game, but I heard.
<v Speaker 2>She knows that she knows a decent mouth about the lore.
<v Speaker 2>She knows a little bit.
<v Speaker 1>Someone someone in the room said Gandorf, and then she
<v Speaker 1>started calling it Gandorf, and I think she was like, oh,
<v Speaker 1>it must be Gandorf. Let me find that. Actually, I
<v Speaker 1>want to watch that. Now, let's watch the clip. Wait,
<v Speaker 1>you might get copyrighted. Really why it's a Netflix show?
<v Speaker 2>Right? Oh is it? Well? The clip just play seconds.
<v Speaker 2>What's the prom Well you are link mm hmm you
<v Speaker 2>are one hundred years ago. Oh my god, such a nerd.
<v Speaker 2>I'm such a nerd.
<v Speaker 1>I gotta be honest. Some people had an issue with
<v Speaker 1>her saying that and her realm.
<v Speaker 2>This is very n yeah. Yeahs even knowing the name
<v Speaker 2>of the game.
<v Speaker 1>She's clearly into it and excited about it, but she's
<v Speaker 1>trying to downplay it. And she's trying to downplay it.
<v Speaker 1>I think it's cute and I think it's fine. It's fine.
<v Speaker 1>It is nerdy for her for someone of her status.
<v Speaker 1>This is massive nerd. So we are just like the
<v Speaker 1>in cell's bottom of the barrel?
<v Speaker 2>What did you do? Did you not think that we were?
<v Speaker 1>No?
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I mean please right.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there was like a big war with.
<v Speaker 2>All the mm hmm fantastic. She brought it where and
<v Speaker 2>where to find you can see. To be honest, and
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna doing a lot of defending hire because I
<v Speaker 2>love this clip.
<v Speaker 1>I think it's awesome. Sometimes I forget what they're called.
<v Speaker 1>I'm like being divine. She's on the right track, though, Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>you knew what she meant. You were like waiting for
<v Speaker 1>her to get it. Someone said it, she said Gandor.
<v Speaker 1>That guy's sent her up to fail. Yeah, no, she
<v Speaker 1>said it too, I know. But but she's new to
<v Speaker 1>this and she heard someone say Gandorf, so in her
<v Speaker 1>mind she's not going to correct it. She's like, oh,
<v Speaker 1>it must be because and it's also to be even
<v Speaker 1>more fair, I think it's just Gannon in this game. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I don't think it is Ganandorf.
<v Speaker 2>I think it's just.
<v Speaker 1>I think I think if she's this is the only
<v Speaker 1>Eldert she's played the nickname I know. But in this game,
<v Speaker 1>I don't think they ever say Ganandorf. I think, okay, well,
<v Speaker 1>let me let me, let me look, he doesn't have
<v Speaker 1>a a physical he's just he's just clam calamity Ganon. Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>In fact, in fact, in fact, the caption even corrects
<v Speaker 1>it as Gannon. Okay, so she just heard Gandorf from
<v Speaker 1>that guy, and then I just went the fantastic, fantastic.
<v Speaker 1>I'm still kind of new. So she googled I skipped it. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>she googled it and found out it was Divine Beasts.
<v Speaker 2>Gotcha, I've already kind of conquered one of the Divine beteah,
<v Speaker 2>my second Beast. But that's so fun. I went to
<v Speaker 2>my second Beast.
<v Speaker 1>Years before you started playing the game, there was a war.
<v Speaker 2>The world is like, you.
<v Speaker 1>Know, shamble, shambles. You know what I love about this
<v Speaker 1>too is that I like, my job is to review games.
<v Speaker 1>So when I think about how I would like review
<v Speaker 1>Breath of the World quickly to somebody and I kind
<v Speaker 1>of like get them hooked. I wouldn't start with so
<v Speaker 1>one hundred years ago there was this war, and then
<v Speaker 1>it was it was in shambles, and then you got
<v Speaker 1>But it's just like this really innocent, like she just
<v Speaker 1>started the game. That's kind of what it's fresh in
<v Speaker 1>her mind, and she's obviously into the story. But I
<v Speaker 1>would start talking about more of like the game play, Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>like the free roaming, Like she's just talking about like
<v Speaker 1>what's resonating with her, and it's just very I think
<v Speaker 1>it's very sweet.
<v Speaker 3>I think she's trying really hard to explain the story
<v Speaker 3>to show like, hey, I actually played this game, and
<v Speaker 3>I understand the prime.
<v Speaker 2>It's clearly like paying it, of course you get in
<v Speaker 2>the world. True black guys supportive, Oh, I like it.
<v Speaker 1>You saved the world, yeah, flashbacks. It's the most intricate
<v Speaker 1>you could be on that game. Like I've I've played
<v Speaker 1>Wait So for days and hours, and there's like missions
<v Speaker 1>to completely missions in the castle to save her.
<v Speaker 2>To save her, it's the world from the divine.
<v Speaker 1>He's asking questions that she doesn't know the answer now.
<v Speaker 1>She hasn't played far enough yet. She hasn't got to
<v Speaker 1>the castle yet.
<v Speaker 3>I mean, but if you get off the Great Plateau,
<v Speaker 3>you know that you got to go save Zelden again
<v Speaker 3>in his castle.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but you know, really, first time in the game,
<v Speaker 2>you don't really know what's going on. She's she's answering
<v Speaker 2>the question.
<v Speaker 1>No, Yeah, she's doing basically based off what she's playing,
<v Speaker 1>but she doesn't have the grand scope yet.
<v Speaker 2>She doesn't really know that. She hasn't got that yet.
<v Speaker 3>I like, you should hire Kylie Jenner to take over
<v Speaker 3>my seat because you know she's clearly she plays games
<v Speaker 3>where I don't.
<v Speaker 1>You want it, Kylie, if you want to co host
<v Speaker 1>the show, all we do is talk about Nintendo I
<v Speaker 1>love and which you know we to be fair, we
<v Speaker 1>probably do we do, but in like yeah, which you
<v Speaker 1>know we to be fair, we probably do we do,
<v Speaker 1>but in like you know, common common folks, normal people,
<v Speaker 1>they don't really say that that's not that's not adult.
<v Speaker 2>You're doing drugs or something.
<v Speaker 3>But the Weekend I love how he represents like the
<v Speaker 3>week is always posting on a Snapchat story him in
<v Speaker 3>his switch. He was literally he was invited to sega.
<v Speaker 3>He we got to play problematter early before it comes sick. Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>that's how I want to The Weekends a gamer gamer bro.
<v Speaker 3>He loves to switch.
<v Speaker 1>He also loves Michael Jackson.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah that's true. That's true.
<v Speaker 1>I think he started his career as a Michael Jackson impersonator.
<v Speaker 1>No way, I think that's true. I don't think.
<v Speaker 2>I mean he's I'm thinking of ye.
<v Speaker 1>He might not like Michael Jackson.
<v Speaker 2>No he does. I'm sure he does. Yeah, I still
<v Speaker 2>haven't seen the movie yet. I have to. Yeah, I'm gonna.
<v Speaker 1>Right.
<v Speaker 2>Are we done? Yes?
<v Speaker 1>Look I'm head banging like the game. Yeah, he's just
<v Speaker 1>pressing that one button. One button, all right, So you
<v Speaker 1>have to cut, cut yourself to yourself? How can I
<v Speaker 1>could you gotta cut? And then you do the joke.
<v Speaker 1>It's so's it would have been funny. The longer you
<v Speaker 1>take now, the more the moment's gone. But I'm not
<v Speaker 1>gonna let this go until.
<v Speaker 2>You do it it fair enough. Oh wait, that's not me.
<v Speaker 2>That's where I'm going to go next.
<v Speaker 1>There you go, Oh my god, this is you know,
<v Speaker 1>it's there you go. How about you take those little
<v Speaker 1>fingers and you do it down on the keyboard?
<v Speaker 2>All right?
<v Speaker 1>So I went straight to Nintendo's page here for this
<v Speaker 1>no fluff, no filler notice regarding price revisions for Switch
<v Speaker 1>Nintendo products and services so dedicated video game systems. The
<v Speaker 1>one that obviously we are interested in here is Nintendo
<v Speaker 1>switch To.
<v Speaker 2>That's Japan only though. Yeah, here we go.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, switch to four point fifty is going up to
<v Speaker 1>five hundred. I mean, obviously we also have Canada and
<v Speaker 1>switch to here Europe here, but those are going.
<v Speaker 2>To be Europe's only thirty dollars increase.
<v Speaker 1>Well, that's going to be a kind of for inflation,
<v Speaker 1>so it'll be like fifty bucks equivalent. What about Canadian
<v Speaker 1>because Canadian's only going up by fifty bucks too, and
<v Speaker 1>I know they're dollars a weeker than ours. You know,
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how that works. Yeah, conversion rates, and
<v Speaker 1>I'm moving to Canada. I don't know how that works.
<v Speaker 1>I'm assuming, I'm assuming it's just a converted across the board. Also,
<v Speaker 1>and this doesn't pertain to us, but the Nintendo Switch
<v Speaker 1>on line service is getting a price increase in Japan. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I did see that, So I don't know if that's
<v Speaker 1>something we need to be looking out for. We just
<v Speaker 1>get one recently too. No, no, I don't think so. Well,
<v Speaker 1>the effect for game chat just went in, so you
<v Speaker 1>now you have to get that minisode but to use
<v Speaker 1>game chat, but nothing for actual just regular NSL.
<v Speaker 2>How much is it now? Like twenty a year?
<v Speaker 1>Bro?
<v Speaker 2>No? No, no, no, no no.
<v Speaker 1>I got told for the reason for the Big Boy one.
<v Speaker 1>It's like fifty expansion. That's what I got.
<v Speaker 2>Fifty. I got charged it recently.
<v Speaker 1>I was like what and then I think the Family
<v Speaker 1>ones like eighty eighty.
<v Speaker 2>I have it with you. Guys want to get on
<v Speaker 2>a family plant together? And I have one from just me.
<v Speaker 2>And but do you want to adopt someone?
<v Speaker 1>I can, I can add someone in the mind. I
<v Speaker 1>got ten more spots. Wow, you get twelve?
<v Speaker 2>Right? Twelve spots?
<v Speaker 1>I don't remember how many spots do you get? Why
<v Speaker 1>did I think it was twelve?
<v Speaker 2>That's a bit. That's a gaggle of kids right there.
<v Speaker 2>That's definitely not Nintendo switch.
<v Speaker 1>And then not that it pertains to us really, but
<v Speaker 1>also playing cards are getting ah, up to eight an
<v Speaker 1>increase up to eight, Okay, not twelve. It's still a lot.
<v Speaker 1>That's still that's still a good price. If you break
<v Speaker 1>it down, that's ten dollars a person. Yeah, that's pretty good,
<v Speaker 1>all right. So the price is going up now, it
<v Speaker 1>says here in their page, in light of changes in
<v Speaker 1>the market conditions and considering the global business outlookd Nintendo
<v Speaker 1>will revise the manufacturers suggested retail price, and then at
<v Speaker 1>the very bottom of the thingy it says, we sincerely
<v Speaker 1>apologize for the impact these price revisions may have on
<v Speaker 1>our customers or other state holders, and we deeply appreciate
<v Speaker 1>your understanding. So they apologized in this. I think they
<v Speaker 1>tweeted an apology too. Yeah, and then they've also tweeted
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of stuff since then, including like, uh like
<v Speaker 1>promises to like fill video games till the end of
<v Speaker 1>the year. We're gonna look at all of that too.
<v Speaker 1>So there's been a lot of like after this happened,
<v Speaker 1>a lot of other conversation, which I think a lot
<v Speaker 1>of that came out of the fact that as soon
<v Speaker 1>as this happened, the shares dropped, yes by like yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I was getting pings on my phone from the Robin
<v Speaker 1>Hood app all day, like your shares are down. Your
<v Speaker 1>shares just.
<v Speaker 2>Got the shares from my birthday.
<v Speaker 3>As you look at the price of the shares from
<v Speaker 3>like ten years ago and Switch one came out, they're
<v Speaker 3>exactly the same they are today, Like they have not
<v Speaker 3>really off or down.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah. I was saying that in the group chat,
<v Speaker 2>you're not going to make money off of yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Because they went down, And then someone in the chat
<v Speaker 1>was like, time to buy, and I was like, if
<v Speaker 1>you had bought ten years ago, you'd have the same
<v Speaker 1>yeah money, Like the shares have not changed.
<v Speaker 2>Nintendo is just not the one.
<v Speaker 1>Nintendo's not the place to get stop short. Yeah no, yeah, no, man,
<v Speaker 1>sorry to tell you with you. I know it's fun
<v Speaker 1>to have the shares and you're like, I own shares
<v Speaker 1>in Nintendo.
<v Speaker 2>You're never going to make money from it, no, for sure,
<v Speaker 2>But now, but.
<v Speaker 1>Now I can make the joke of like the shareholders
<v Speaker 1>aren't happy with the switching increase.
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, yeah, you're right, you know what. I'm not. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>I'm not.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we're happy.
<v Speaker 2>No, I'm not. I own Nintendo.
<v Speaker 1>That is actually really fun with all the time every
<v Speaker 1>time I see that, like the shareholders aren't happy. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I never think about the fact that I am one
<v Speaker 1>that I'm not happy.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're right, I am yeah, you know what.
<v Speaker 1>I'm right, you're right. Yeah, all right, before we dive
<v Speaker 1>into it, I guess I just have some other things
<v Speaker 1>to talk. Pulled up articles here stealth twitted about the
<v Speaker 1>price increase obviously goes into effect September first. We have time,
<v Speaker 1>so you do have time if you want to. I
<v Speaker 1>think that it's way shorter in Japan. I think there's
<v Speaker 1>happens like this month a month or thing. But here
<v Speaker 1>we have until September first, which is a decent amount
<v Speaker 1>of time. Yeah, yeah, you're playing games that. Yeah, I
<v Speaker 1>was thinking about it too. I wouldn't be surprised if
<v Speaker 1>around September first they also dropped Zelderkrei or a Time
<v Speaker 1>with the special Edition switch.
<v Speaker 3>So so so me and we're talking about this earlier.
<v Speaker 3>Where did the special edition switch come from? Nate the
<v Speaker 3>hate there? I don't think there was one.
<v Speaker 2>I think this is maybe.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, maybe there was something I don't recall. I
<v Speaker 1>think it just came from us talking about it. I
<v Speaker 1>think we just want one, do you think that. I mean,
<v Speaker 1>it's been a year in some change. I think where
<v Speaker 1>it came from is we had a bonus episode we
<v Speaker 1>were talking about what special editions will Nintendo do, and
<v Speaker 1>we just talked about what would be the first one,
<v Speaker 1>and as far as everything we know right now or
<v Speaker 1>at least think we know of, Zelder seems like the
<v Speaker 1>most obvious one because we talked about we haven't had
<v Speaker 1>a gold switch, switch one or switch to, but it
<v Speaker 1>would be I can see it happening where we get
<v Speaker 1>the price increase, and then shortly after all, like in
<v Speaker 1>the month, we get your Time remake with a gold
<v Speaker 1>switch too, and then everyone's like, well, i'd pay five
<v Speaker 1>hundred for that one, it'd be more than five I was,
<v Speaker 1>I was telling the price the same prize.
<v Speaker 3>Well, because if this is if the switch is going
<v Speaker 3>up to five hundred, that's without a game.
<v Speaker 2>But I thinking the bundle edition. I didn't say nothing
<v Speaker 2>about a bundle. You know what that reminds me of.
<v Speaker 2>I remember, I don't get it. You don't get a game.
<v Speaker 1>No, yeah, especially in Switch is just you don't get
<v Speaker 1>the game, because I.
<v Speaker 3>Remember I've never bought one, but I know the three
<v Speaker 3>ds you would game with the bundle that they're selling you.
<v Speaker 1>I think, for like and I could be wrong, I
<v Speaker 1>think for ninety percent you can got away from that.
<v Speaker 1>I think for ninety percent of the specialation Switched ones
<v Speaker 1>they didn't come with it because I got the O
<v Speaker 1>led and it was the spoltoon and three version and
<v Speaker 1>that didn't come.
<v Speaker 2>With the game.
<v Speaker 1>It came out before, and I was like, why not?
<v Speaker 1>Same thing I think with like Pokemon, Scarleton Violet, it
<v Speaker 1>was just the switch. I think there was a red
<v Speaker 1>switch one that came with a carry case and maybe
<v Speaker 1>like one of the Mario games, and that was probably
<v Speaker 1>more you just.
<v Speaker 2>Throw a coat in that.
<v Speaker 1>What is good Nintendo well they did for Mario Kart technically,
<v Speaker 1>I mean yeah, because they were getting back at the
<v Speaker 1>price that's right one, and they're doing that thing that
<v Speaker 1>we're you and they are doing a thing.
<v Speaker 2>Well, so then they did.
<v Speaker 3>Nintendo did do that, so they might do that with
<v Speaker 3>Oker enough time Switch.
<v Speaker 1>But if we're specifically talking about special edition consoles, the
<v Speaker 1>track history is no, you get the specialition console and
<v Speaker 1>then you have to buy the game set. Apparately, that's
<v Speaker 1>only with Switch because three DS was not like that.
<v Speaker 1>But I got you and you, Yeah, I do remember those.
<v Speaker 1>Umm my computer. Let me see if I have that
<v Speaker 1>bundle in here? Yeah, choose your bundle, it's in here.
<v Speaker 1>Can I get a tissue?
<v Speaker 2>Please? I'm still congested from being sick. It's Pat out there.
<v Speaker 1>We don't see him. I don't see him. All right,
<v Speaker 1>never mind, I'll suffer through.
<v Speaker 2>That's going to do. Thank you. I appreciate you. My god,
<v Speaker 2>RD you gotta cut now, Oh my god, thank you,
<v Speaker 2>RED appreciate you.
<v Speaker 1>THENTW I switched to Choose your Own Game Bundle launches
<v Speaker 1>this summer. Choose your in Game Bundle includes Mario Cottworld.
<v Speaker 1>So this is this is cool. This is five hundred. Yeah, yes,
<v Speaker 1>this is awesome to see.
<v Speaker 2>Talk about this for a second while I blow my nose.
<v Speaker 2>So we got games.
<v Speaker 3>We got stores selling you a Nintendo Switch to with
<v Speaker 3>a free game of your choice, a downloadable code you
<v Speaker 3>get between Mario Kart World, Don Kong Bonanza or Pokemon
<v Speaker 3>Pa Copia.
<v Speaker 2>Interesting.
<v Speaker 3>If you're gonna buy this for five hundred dollars, either
<v Speaker 3>get Mario Kart World or po Copia or I mean
<v Speaker 3>I would choose.
<v Speaker 1>Mario Kart World out of all of them. As are
<v Speaker 1>our sound effects for the day. You good, Thank you nice.
<v Speaker 1>You know this reminds me of thanks for meeting My
<v Speaker 1>Mike joined that too. I appreciate that.
<v Speaker 2>I hope it was.
<v Speaker 1>I remember when they did this with the WU where
<v Speaker 1>they would have I think it was the WIU I got.
<v Speaker 1>It came with like a choice of like we Party
<v Speaker 1>Piping four, I wore a Nintendo Land and like something else.
<v Speaker 1>I talk about this something well, I talk about this
<v Speaker 1>a lot, and know what I said, it like that
<v Speaker 1>that was a deal that you could get in Europe
<v Speaker 1>and Australia and I don't know if it was here,
<v Speaker 1>and I've mentioned it a few times, but I think
<v Speaker 1>one of the games, like Mario Kart, came with a
<v Speaker 1>code in the box for you to redeem for a
<v Speaker 1>list of games for multiple Yeah, it was like you
<v Speaker 1>could get Pickman, you could get this game, you could
<v Speaker 1>get Luigi something okay, And I think mine was just
<v Speaker 1>like you have the choice to get one of them
<v Speaker 1>when you.
<v Speaker 2>Bought the WU.
<v Speaker 3>Yes, yeah, I got like mine, I was a Nintendo
<v Speaker 3>Land edition because the box came in Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, with mine was Mario Kart eight plus a freaking.
<v Speaker 3>Oh so then you bought it later then Yeah, I
<v Speaker 3>bought my two years later or something, twenty fourteen.
<v Speaker 1>I think, yeah, well, yeah, this bundles five hundred and uh,
<v Speaker 1>this is like a this is essentially the same thing
<v Speaker 1>that's yeah when it came out.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and Pokemon Z yep.
<v Speaker 1>And then I don't know if they've said, I assume
<v Speaker 1>not what happens with this when the price goes up.
<v Speaker 1>I assume this bundle will probably last until September.
<v Speaker 2>First.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they're probably just trying to push out as many
<v Speaker 3>cells as possible right before.
<v Speaker 1>They probably I mean again, I feel like Nintendo did
<v Speaker 1>a lot. They said a lot, and they did a
<v Speaker 1>lot leading up to and after this like price increase
<v Speaker 1>to kind of be like, well, there's this though, so
<v Speaker 1>this is one right, Like, yes, we're increasing the price
<v Speaker 1>September first, but if you feel like you need to
<v Speaker 1>go out and get one right now before that price increase,
<v Speaker 1>you can get one with one of these games and
<v Speaker 1>save yourself between twenty to thirty dollars.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, sure, so like that's something.
<v Speaker 1>And then obviously leading up to this, they also drop
<v Speaker 1>the price of digital games, which we're seeing reflected in
<v Speaker 1>the physical market too, with Amazon and Walmart matching those prices,
<v Speaker 1>giving and taking. And again, like the increase is also
<v Speaker 1>we haven't talked about it yet, but it's not Nintendo's
<v Speaker 1>fault that the price is increasing. It's it's the economy,
<v Speaker 1>it's the world. It's it's you know, the rising price
<v Speaker 1>more than anything. I mean, you can talk about tariffs,
<v Speaker 1>you can talk about the rising gas prices and everything,
<v Speaker 1>you know, everything that's happening with the wall graphics card.
<v Speaker 1>The main thing is just the ramp. That's the main thing.
<v Speaker 1>Is the AI situation dominating the world, dominating the Internet
<v Speaker 1>and sucking up all the ram. We talked about it
<v Speaker 1>in that episode, but something is RAM heavy as that
<v Speaker 1>Lenovo Legion Go Too that has so much like ram
<v Speaker 1>in it that the price went from fifteen hundred to
<v Speaker 1>three thousand.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, doubled. It doubled because of the you know.
<v Speaker 1>And then you see the PlayStation price that went up
<v Speaker 1>like one hundred bucks, right, and it's consistently gone up.
<v Speaker 1>So this jump is and I say this cautiously, it's
<v Speaker 1>pretty modest. I say the word just but just fifty
<v Speaker 1>dollars is pretty low comparatively to everyone else that's had
<v Speaker 1>to do this. Yeah, so you know, and this is
<v Speaker 1>like the first time Nintendo's ever done something like this. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I delivered an increase.
<v Speaker 3>I mean with the three D as they decreased the
<v Speaker 3>price of the console when it came out.
<v Speaker 1>This is the first generation as gamers where the console
<v Speaker 1>prices are increasing, not decreasing, since video games and consoles
<v Speaker 1>have been around. And for majority of people probably watching this,
<v Speaker 1>it's not going to matter to you because you probably
<v Speaker 1>already own a switch to now. For the people who
<v Speaker 1>don't though, because I've talked to a few people who
<v Speaker 1>actually don't have it at the bundle, yeah, we'll get
<v Speaker 1>the bumble, that's what And I get it, like, you know,
<v Speaker 1>it's fifty dollars, which you know, in the grand scheme
<v Speaker 1>of things, is not a lot compared to everything else.
<v Speaker 1>But I do get it because some people, you know,
<v Speaker 1>especially right now, money can be tight.
<v Speaker 2>I get it. You want to make sure you're getting
<v Speaker 2>your money's worth.
<v Speaker 1>And even I think you even said people talk about
<v Speaker 1>this part, but like for me, I mean, already having one,
<v Speaker 1>I think it's it's been well worth it. But like
<v Speaker 1>at this point, I still think it's even with a
<v Speaker 1>fifty dollars increase, I think you should still buy it
<v Speaker 1>either way. Yeah, I'm definitely going to get into that.
<v Speaker 1>I just want to go through. There's more. There's so
<v Speaker 1>much that happened around this. So this article is from
<v Speaker 1>game Spot. Nintendo increase the switch to price to five hundred,
<v Speaker 1>and it still isn't enough.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, yeah, it's unfortunate. Let me read that.
<v Speaker 1>That means we're gonna get another price increase, probably in
<v Speaker 1>the next couple of years. We may could, which is
<v Speaker 1>why my original thumbnail had question marks on the price,
<v Speaker 1>because it could actually go up. Even more so, the
<v Speaker 1>change in hardware pricing was not due to any one
<v Speaker 1>specific fact in Nintendo president Photocall was said in the
<v Speaker 1>company's recent financial results presentation. Rather, the decision was made
<v Speaker 1>in light of various changes in the recent market conditions,
<v Speaker 1>which we believe will have a medium to long impact
<v Speaker 1>to the global outlook of our dedicated video game platform business. Unfortunately,
<v Speaker 1>the recent surgeon memory and other component prices, and changes
<v Speaker 1>in the market environment, including trends in the foreign exchange market,
<v Speaker 1>and the price of oil, which I just touched on.
<v Speaker 1>All of that, I think I said gas, but I
<v Speaker 1>meant oil are all the factors that we anticipate will
<v Speaker 1>continue over the medium to long term. Like almost all
<v Speaker 1>hardware and twenty and twenty six, Nintendo was facing a
<v Speaker 1>perfect storm conditions that's forced its hand the ongoing shortage
<v Speaker 1>of crucial components. The week again, the rising oil prices
<v Speaker 1>FOOTACA will added the higher price may create an additional
<v Speaker 1>barrier to entry, but Nintendo is confident that engaging fund
<v Speaker 1>will help enhance the switch to's ownership value for customers.
<v Speaker 1>While this is another quote. While uncertainties remain regarding future
<v Speaker 1>trends and component prices, we recognize they could have an
<v Speaker 1>impact not only this year, but the next year as
<v Speaker 1>well as for what after that. We will make necessary
<v Speaker 1>preparations to ensure that we can respond flexibly to any
<v Speaker 1>situation that arises. So essentially what he's saying here is
<v Speaker 1>this medium to long term, Like this is not short term.
<v Speaker 1>This is medium to long term, and they're going to
<v Speaker 1>keep being flexible and adjusting to any situation that arises.
<v Speaker 2>He expects it to get worse, not better.
<v Speaker 1>So a lot of this wordage is essentially saying that
<v Speaker 1>this five hundred of price increase, it's something for now.
<v Speaker 1>It's technically and I think also what this is saying
<v Speaker 1>is technically it should on there. I'm trying to word
<v Speaker 1>this carefully, but on their end to actually cover the
<v Speaker 1>rising costs and especially the future proofit more should be higher.
<v Speaker 1>Five hundred was like we have to raise it. We
<v Speaker 1>can't go more than five hundred right now because there's
<v Speaker 1>a risk and reward. I don't think is the word
<v Speaker 1>I'm looking for here, But you do needing to put
<v Speaker 1>it higher because technically you do. And then losing out
<v Speaker 1>in sales because your price of entry is too high
<v Speaker 1>is like you're diminishing returns. See, so five hundred is
<v Speaker 1>we're lucky to get five hundred is essentially what we're
<v Speaker 1>getting out of this because Nintendo doesn't feel confident enough
<v Speaker 1>to make it any more expensive for that, which makes sense. Okay,
<v Speaker 1>the situation we're in with the economy and everything is
<v Speaker 1>just f It is, for lack of a better word,
<v Speaker 1>it is f.
<v Speaker 2>And we'll ever get better is the real question. It
<v Speaker 2>doesn't seem like you.
<v Speaker 1>For the AI stuff. For the AI stuff, there's that's
<v Speaker 1>just running rampant, and I know a lot of people
<v Speaker 1>don't like it. I mean, obviously I hate where it's
<v Speaker 1>going and I hate how much RAM is being dedicated
<v Speaker 1>to it. There's no control I feel like that anyone
<v Speaker 1>can have over that other than the big AA companies
<v Speaker 1>like getting shut down, which isn't going to happen. The
<v Speaker 1>other stuff a lot of the other situations that's happening.
<v Speaker 1>A lot of people voted for this, so you know
<v Speaker 1>a lot of this stuff, especially for America, was detailed
<v Speaker 1>and listed before the last election that this stuff was
<v Speaker 1>going to happen.
<v Speaker 2>So a lot of this is just where reaping.
<v Speaker 3>Because there's no regulation with like these AI companies like
<v Speaker 3>sucking up all this RAM.
<v Speaker 2>And AI think is the main fact this would have happened.
<v Speaker 2>No matter what exactly, this would have happened no matter
<v Speaker 2>what because of Ai.
<v Speaker 1>Unfortunately. Yeah, but when the two things come together, it's beautiful.
<v Speaker 1>We get Ai Jesus Trump.
<v Speaker 2>That's and it's like a perfect resorm and everything that
<v Speaker 2>I love. God, Yeah, anyway with that one.
<v Speaker 1>So that's where we're at with that. I honestly, I
<v Speaker 1>think there's even more. We have a nintendant President explains
<v Speaker 1>why they decided against a higher price. This could honestly
<v Speaker 1>probably be paraphrasing even more, yeah.
<v Speaker 2>Or pretty much the somewhat the same thing.
<v Speaker 1>But we have we will work, We will prepare a
<v Speaker 1>robust software lineup to enhance the switch to ownership value.
<v Speaker 1>We will work diligently to overcome this barrier that's come
<v Speaker 1>on the president. And then I don't know if I
<v Speaker 1>have it pulled up. Yeah, there's the price is taking
<v Speaker 1>a slump. I'm gonna go to my doc quickly because
<v Speaker 1>there was another quote about increasing.
<v Speaker 2>Video game production or something about video game production. Oh God,
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if I have it in here. Actually,
<v Speaker 2>essentially they said I think might have been photo colla.
<v Speaker 1>I said that they still have a couple of big
<v Speaker 1>surprises before the end of the year.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's what you said kind of detail.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he said he wants the company to build a
<v Speaker 3>strong lineup of games that will make the switch to
<v Speaker 3>feel worth buying despite the price increased costs, which I
<v Speaker 3>think you just said.
<v Speaker 1>So in a way, I also kind of have kind
<v Speaker 1>of be careful how I wear this too, Like, in
<v Speaker 1>a way, this is somewhat pushing Nintendo to realize, if
<v Speaker 1>we want to have you know, our consoles sell, we
<v Speaker 1>should probably start stepping up our game production even more
<v Speaker 1>with some of the stuff that we could be getting
<v Speaker 1>in the future. Yeah, this could be like, this could
<v Speaker 1>be like maybe the case of like games that they're
<v Speaker 1>waiting to put out, let's say for like year two
<v Speaker 1>or year three, maybe they're thinking, like, well, we should
<v Speaker 1>probably have him ready now.
<v Speaker 2>In the event that let's say, of.
<v Speaker 1>A switch to, you know, God forbid, that it could
<v Speaker 1>be like six hundred bucks like next year, or even
<v Speaker 1>like more like that. So I managed to find the
<v Speaker 1>the core indirectly on a weird website called nine to
<v Speaker 1>five Toys, which I don't know what that is. But
<v Speaker 1>the president said that the company has a variety of
<v Speaker 1>new titles for Switched To in the works, and more importantly,
<v Speaker 1>in the near term new titles prepared for the second
<v Speaker 1>half of its physical year. That was the quote I
<v Speaker 1>was looking for. Okay, So I mean not that were not,
<v Speaker 1>you know, surprised by that. But there's still some new
<v Speaker 1>at least a couple of new things that we don't
<v Speaker 1>know about yet that hasn't been leaked yet, that hasn't
<v Speaker 1>been revealed yet, that they're cooking and they're working on.
<v Speaker 1>And then obviously we do kind of know that one
<v Speaker 1>of those could be the Operina a time yeah, and
<v Speaker 1>that you know, because technically they haven't said that yet.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Or it could be our Carena a time in
<v Speaker 2>something else. It could be a couple of new things.
<v Speaker 1>But either way, Nintendo feels confident in their product, and
<v Speaker 1>I honestly I feel confident in it too.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>So now we can get into that a little bit.
<v Speaker 1>I think I think we've juiced a lot of these
<v Speaker 1>articles and everything, so, uh, there's so many spaces to
<v Speaker 1>come at it. I mean, obviously, I know that raising
<v Speaker 1>the price to five hundred sucks, but because we know
<v Speaker 1>we've been used to four to fifty for a long time,
<v Speaker 1>and it shouldn't be five hundred like it should be
<v Speaker 1>four fifty Yeah, it's unfortunate that it has to be.
<v Speaker 1>But leading up to this thing releasing, I always thought
<v Speaker 1>it was going to be five hundred, purely because of
<v Speaker 1>how much it's doing and the value I think the
<v Speaker 1>console has. Yeah, overall, there's a lot of things that
<v Speaker 1>people say when comparing it. They say like, oh, the
<v Speaker 1>steam decks cheaper, which like, how much cheaper is the
<v Speaker 1>steam deck actually?
<v Speaker 2>For one, we look it up.
<v Speaker 1>My response to that is twofold. Usually it's than by
<v Speaker 1>a steam deck is my first one? Yeah, right now
<v Speaker 1>I've played with the steam dick. Yeah, I like the
<v Speaker 1>steam decks just fine.
<v Speaker 2>It's right about now it's five forty nine to six
<v Speaker 2>forty nine.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, what about like very low end for like an
<v Speaker 1>LCD model, like the cheapest model you can get, which
<v Speaker 1>I think are out of stock anyway, the absolute base
<v Speaker 1>of the base model.
<v Speaker 2>Forty yea, yeah, like three twenty to three ninety nine.
<v Speaker 1>So that's the absolutely that's the first revision, before it
<v Speaker 1>got o led, before it got better battery, before it
<v Speaker 1>got a lot.
<v Speaker 2>Of stuff, but basic you can get like that one.
<v Speaker 1>I'll say about that, like that's going to the absolute
<v Speaker 1>base model. The switch to clears that and its build
<v Speaker 1>and its quality and its performance, and it's like like HDR,
<v Speaker 1>it's one hundred and twenty hertz and it clears it.
<v Speaker 1>From a technical standpoint, I think that everybody forgets. Even
<v Speaker 1>when you compare other models to the steam Deck or
<v Speaker 1>that model the steam Deck, the switch to has a
<v Speaker 1>lot more going on that ships in the box. You
<v Speaker 1>have the DOC which is a whole like accessory component
<v Speaker 1>in itself that has hardware in it as well that
<v Speaker 1>enhances your switch and gives it that four K and
<v Speaker 1>gives it all of that. So you're not only getting
<v Speaker 1>a switch, you're also getting that also has these two
<v Speaker 1>removable joy cons right that Like, that's that's a whole
<v Speaker 1>accessory and expensive component in itself, and then it has
<v Speaker 1>like the whole magnet thing and the blue tooth and
<v Speaker 1>everything baked into it. So you're getting like a lot
<v Speaker 1>more of a console of a unit at the similar
<v Speaker 1>price to the high end and cheaper than even the
<v Speaker 1>most high end like steam Deck. Yeah, so I think
<v Speaker 1>it's priced appropriately for the market, right.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>I was surprised when it was, you know, revealed that
<v Speaker 3>four fifty because I was like thinking if it was
<v Speaker 3>three ninety nine, that would be like, Okay, this is I.
<v Speaker 1>Feel like that. That would be a miracle price.
<v Speaker 3>That's what I thought I was going to be because
<v Speaker 3>like at first when they announced the switch to, I
<v Speaker 3>was like, is it really going to be that significant
<v Speaker 3>of an upgrade from my bull Blood switch?
<v Speaker 2>And I think now we've seen that. It definitely we've.
<v Speaker 3>Seen that, but it's not like rate now as of
<v Speaker 3>like when Nintendo launch the switch to, there wasn't like
<v Speaker 3>the games to back up the capability of what the consoles,
<v Speaker 3>like cable we do.
<v Speaker 1>We didn't have as good of an understanding. I mean,
<v Speaker 1>we had the details on paper, yeah, but we didn't
<v Speaker 1>really have as good of an understanding of what it
<v Speaker 1>can do visual exactly. And now we've seen things like
<v Speaker 1>Resident Will nine. Now it's like, okay, yeah, liter exactly.
<v Speaker 1>And when you compare, like you know, Resident Evil nine,
<v Speaker 1>you put the side by sides with PlayStation there are
<v Speaker 1>sometimes you can get confused, right, yeah, And you look
<v Speaker 1>at the size of a PlayStation five, you look at
<v Speaker 1>the size of switch.
<v Speaker 3>You did that with Progmata And I was so surprised
<v Speaker 3>because sometimes in the switch to version it would look better.
<v Speaker 2>In my opinion, I actually.
<v Speaker 1>Do think that in some ways the switch to version
<v Speaker 1>looked better because it had to remove some lighting, and
<v Speaker 1>I actually preferred the way it looks without some of
<v Speaker 1>that light. It was bizarre. Yeah, but you know, and
<v Speaker 1>it's not even just the size. You have to think
<v Speaker 1>about when you look at a PlayStation five and you
<v Speaker 1>look at a switch to and then you think this
<v Speaker 1>is doing what this is doing? The Switch two also
<v Speaker 1>comes with an inbuilt screen. The Switch two also comes
<v Speaker 1>with in built joy cons exactly, like there's more tech
<v Speaker 1>in there that you're paying for. Yeah, and when people,
<v Speaker 1>you know, wanted that to come out cheaper, they were like,
<v Speaker 1>it should be three ninety nine, it should be blah
<v Speaker 1>blah blah. That's when Nintendo would have to look at
<v Speaker 1>the console and start stripping things out to meet that.
<v Speaker 1>So like we don't get the one hundred and twenty
<v Speaker 1>hurtz HDR screen or like that is a I know
<v Speaker 1>it's LCD.
<v Speaker 2>That is a very nice else. It's a very good one.
<v Speaker 3>It's very upset when it was like because I'm like,
<v Speaker 3>this is gonna be a downwat for my old switch.
<v Speaker 3>But looking at it side by side, I'm like, this
<v Speaker 3>is better looking than although be it it is LCDs.
<v Speaker 1>I know on paper, it's like O lead's obviously better
<v Speaker 1>than than LCD, like obviously on paper, But if you
<v Speaker 1>take the worst, cheapest O l e D screen and
<v Speaker 1>the most expensive high quality one hundred and twenty hertz
<v Speaker 1>or whatever, two forty hurts even like the most quality
<v Speaker 1>LCD screen, you're gonna prefer the LCD.
<v Speaker 2>Screen because it's then the lower quality OLEAD.
<v Speaker 1>And this is just a really nice quality LCD screen
<v Speaker 1>that I think looks better than the switch to.
<v Speaker 2>Are you switch? Switch one was low quality.
<v Speaker 1>Nona step it from the first novel. I'm just saying
<v Speaker 1>people are people didn't give the l c D it's uh,
<v Speaker 1>it's flowers, yeah, because they just heard l c D
<v Speaker 1>and they were like, oh that's when in reality, in reality,
<v Speaker 1>if you if you play the switch to HDR on
<v Speaker 1>Mario cut World looks better than anything I ever saw.
<v Speaker 2>On the OLEAD.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like miles better. Yeah, So I'm excited to see
<v Speaker 1>what they're all. Let's switch two is going to look
<v Speaker 1>like Oh if at this point, if the base models
<v Speaker 1>is gonna be five hundred, that thing's probably.
<v Speaker 2>Gonna be six. I'd pay six hundred for it. I
<v Speaker 2>do think it's wild because like, so I tweeted out.
<v Speaker 1>Let me see if I can find that tweet. Oh well,
<v Speaker 1>uh it was. It was perfect timing for it. I
<v Speaker 1>never know how to get to my profile. Oh here
<v Speaker 1>it is, look on the profile.
<v Speaker 2>Ye yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So I saw this tweet getting retweeted and it
<v Speaker 1>was what's your most controversial switch to take? So I said,
<v Speaker 1>it's still worth five hundred.
<v Speaker 2>It is.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like I'm ten tons down on that one. It
<v Speaker 1>is like, I don't know what to tell you. I
<v Speaker 1>do find it wild how much?
<v Speaker 2>How many? And I don't know if I'm going to
<v Speaker 2>find him in here?
<v Speaker 1>But there were people saying like it's not even worth
<v Speaker 1>three hundred, which is like, oh, yeah, you're you're you're
<v Speaker 1>being silly. Yeah, like you're being a hater to be.
<v Speaker 1>You're telling me you saw like like there's no show
<v Speaker 1>three hundred. You're saying, like, Nash, if you strip out
<v Speaker 1>the internals and you just want the joy cons and
<v Speaker 1>the screen, you want to abild it yourself, maybe we
<v Speaker 1>can do like two fifty three hundred for the parts,
<v Speaker 1>and you can put your own TPU in there, you
<v Speaker 1>put your own SSD in there.
<v Speaker 2>You can figure it out only from the ground up,
<v Speaker 2>like a PC. Yeah, that's that's pretty well to me actually.
<v Speaker 1>But I mean if you know, if I don't know,
<v Speaker 1>I go, so I sometimes have to be careful with
<v Speaker 1>what I say because I don't know, like I don't
<v Speaker 1>know what's like kosher here, But like four fifty to
<v Speaker 1>five hundred, if that's your breaking point, like I could
<v Speaker 1>definitely break four fifty. I definitely see it worth four fifty,
<v Speaker 1>but five hundred is a no go for me, sir,
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to miss out on this generation because of
<v Speaker 1>that fifty. There are like ambos that cost fifty.
<v Speaker 2>That is true. You buy like ten packs of Pokemon cards.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean in twenty twenty six, fifty dollars is
<v Speaker 3>legitimately nothing. You can't even go out with your girl
<v Speaker 3>and spend fifty dollars.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's like yeah one person. Yeah, I mean, this
<v Speaker 2>does that.
<v Speaker 1>This conversation goes into a weird avenue of like I
<v Speaker 1>don't know people, I feel like people hate when I
<v Speaker 1>get into this avenue. But you're right, fifty bucks does
<v Speaker 1>not go far these days. It really doesn't go people
<v Speaker 1>I talk to, especially like it's a moment where like
<v Speaker 1>you have to realize.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, not everyone. I get.
<v Speaker 1>I get it can is in the same spot and
<v Speaker 1>is in the same like has this much money like
<v Speaker 1>to spend on games and things like that. Yeah, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I mean even outside of that, if you if you
<v Speaker 1>want to keep it in the switch to ecosystem, right,
<v Speaker 1>you want to buy a switch to Let's say you're
<v Speaker 1>gonna want to buy some games, yeah right, yeah, by
<v Speaker 1>buy one less game, like, don't buy stuff fucks, you know,
<v Speaker 1>like it sucks. It sucks that you can't buy Stoff
<v Speaker 1>fucks if you want it. But you can still get
<v Speaker 1>Mario cop you can get Pacopia donkey like make the
<v Speaker 1>sacrifice somewhere else in the ecosystem. Yeah, don't buy all
<v Speaker 1>by the pro control user switch. Don't buy the camera.
<v Speaker 1>The cameras fifty bucks. Yeah, use to switch one Joy
<v Speaker 1>cons is what yeah, no, no, no, the pro controller for
<v Speaker 1>the switch one.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>I owned five of those, right, and then I was
<v Speaker 3>shocked when I found out that they're compatible with the
<v Speaker 3>switch too. So I was like going to invest buying
<v Speaker 3>like a couple more pro controllers for the switch too,
<v Speaker 3>and I was like thank god I didn't, Yeah, because
<v Speaker 3>it saves me ninety bucks for control I.
<v Speaker 1>Know that this this is tough because I know it
<v Speaker 1>sounds like cope and it sounds like we're trying to
<v Speaker 1>make the best out of a bad situation. But that's
<v Speaker 1>what it is.
<v Speaker 2>Bro. You should happy giving me a model your money.
<v Speaker 2>What's wrong with you? I know, right? Yeah, we shills.
<v Speaker 1>I I it's trying to where it's stuck here. We
<v Speaker 1>have no choice, this is happening. Yeah, So it's trying
<v Speaker 1>to find the best in a bad situation. If the
<v Speaker 1>question is too given to me, Blanket, Is this console
<v Speaker 1>worth five hundred dollars?
<v Speaker 2>Yes?
<v Speaker 1>I thought it was gonna be worth five hundred before
<v Speaker 1>it came out. Four point fifty seemed like a really
<v Speaker 1>good deal to me. Is it worth five hundred? Yes,
<v Speaker 1>that's and I'm even talking about just for the hardware.
<v Speaker 1>I'm literally just talking about. Is this thing that comes
<v Speaker 1>with a doc that I just took it out of.
<v Speaker 1>Is this hardware worth five hundred comparatively to everything else
<v Speaker 1>on the marketplace and what it can do?
<v Speaker 2>Yes?
<v Speaker 1>And that's before we talk about it's five hundred dollars
<v Speaker 1>to them play Mario Cuttwell and staff Fox when it
<v Speaker 1>comes out, and the news Elder and everything else that
<v Speaker 1>goes into that.
<v Speaker 3>Objectively, yes, it is worth five hundred dollars, Like that's
<v Speaker 3>an argument you can make. But I think most people
<v Speaker 3>when they purchase like a brand new console or a
<v Speaker 3>phone or any electronics that's going to cost them money,
<v Speaker 3>it's like they're looking at it from a subjective perspective.
<v Speaker 2>Well, if I have a switch.
<v Speaker 3>O LED and I have all these games on it,
<v Speaker 3>do I need the switch to ye, less I'm gonna buy.
<v Speaker 1>That's a personal question, you know, that's a personal question,
<v Speaker 1>and that's that that.
<v Speaker 2>Has nothing to do with this, that has something to
<v Speaker 2>do with your finance.
<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm saying. It makes sense, like for what
<v Speaker 1>it's worth, and I agree with it, like, yes, this
<v Speaker 1>is priced people out. Yes, this now will not make
<v Speaker 1>sense for some people. But if you're asking me objectively,
<v Speaker 1>is it still worth it? The answer is still yes,
<v Speaker 1>which is why when people comment like no, it's not
<v Speaker 1>because I already have a switch one.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, there you go. Then that's your answer, Like that
<v Speaker 2>doesn't make sense.
<v Speaker 1>Play Mario Kart when it's ass y Mario. If you
<v Speaker 1>don't like Zelda, if you don't like Staff, it's gonna.
<v Speaker 2>Be worth it to you No.
<v Speaker 1>I always tell people like if at least even before
<v Speaker 1>the price, like like if there is a game that
<v Speaker 1>you really want and it's a Switch too exclusive, then
<v Speaker 1>there you go. But you do not need it, especially
<v Speaker 1>if you have all this Switch one library, if you
<v Speaker 1>have the entirety of like games that are still going
<v Speaker 1>like Splotoon three is to switch one game that still
<v Speaker 1>has plenty of a player base Mario Kart even like
<v Speaker 1>Smash Smashes like the game right now or there's always
<v Speaker 1>been the game on Switch, but like, yeah, we are
<v Speaker 1>going to get to a point where, like you are
<v Speaker 1>going to start seeing some of these new releases just
<v Speaker 1>be switched to exclusives. At that point, you have to
<v Speaker 1>ask yourself, well, okay, do I really yeah, because they're
<v Speaker 1>not going to stop making Switch one games of course
<v Speaker 1>until they do.
<v Speaker 2>Until they do.
<v Speaker 1>But like there was literally it was said here that
<v Speaker 1>I believe it is important we consider how to expand
<v Speaker 1>the entire software is including titles for both Nintendo Switch
<v Speaker 1>and Intendo Switch.
<v Speaker 3>To quoted by for the So it's like, if you
<v Speaker 3>have a Switch today, don't worry. You're still gonna get games,
<v Speaker 3>but you're not gonna get the Triple A games. You're
<v Speaker 3>not gonna play New Mario, Zelda, Pokemon, Yeah, when those
<v Speaker 3>come out, exclude Kirby.
<v Speaker 2>You're not gonna.
<v Speaker 3>So it's like you gotta Yeah, it's like you have
<v Speaker 3>to be able to make that decision. Is it worth
<v Speaker 3>it for these new games to play those titles or not.
<v Speaker 3>We're not trying to sell you guys on buy and
<v Speaker 3>switch too is by the way. Now, I don't want
<v Speaker 3>people thinking like, oh, we're glazy. You don't have to
<v Speaker 3>buy anything. I will say, if you're watching this podcast,
<v Speaker 3>you're probably interested. Yeah, you probably want one if you
<v Speaker 3>don't have one. So I think some of that too
<v Speaker 3>goes into this article I can pivot into because I
<v Speaker 3>think when a lot of people look at the two cars,
<v Speaker 3>look at the switch, and then they compare it to
<v Speaker 3>their PC or their PlayStation or whatever, I think when
<v Speaker 3>they think of value, they are just thinking of the graphics.
<v Speaker 1>Look was like, that's it. That's the truth, Like, that's it.
<v Speaker 1>You know, they're not thinking about again, Like I said
<v Speaker 1>that it has a built in screen, that it's a handheld,
<v Speaker 1>the mouse controls, you know, mouse controls all that any
<v Speaker 1>more mouse, that it comes with detachable joy cones or
<v Speaker 1>that it has this library of impressive games, or that
<v Speaker 1>it does run a lot of these games.
<v Speaker 2>They just do look a little What.
<v Speaker 3>If at one point you could use your internet browser
<v Speaker 3>with the mouse controls, that would be sick. You could
<v Speaker 3>log in, yeah, I just the DS. You could use
<v Speaker 3>the internet browser with the style of the style.
<v Speaker 1>But a lot of people just look at value as
<v Speaker 1>like what and it do graphically graphics? And I think
<v Speaker 1>the interesting conversation to have there can spin off of
<v Speaker 1>this because Buyershock creator says the switch to proves gaming
<v Speaker 1>graphics are hitting diminishing returns, which I think is true
<v Speaker 1>to an extent, because there will always be people that
<v Speaker 1>the thing they love about video games is how it looks.
<v Speaker 2>It'll look yeah, and like how good.
<v Speaker 1>How my passion is pushing my fifty ninety TI as
<v Speaker 1>far as it can go and making a game look incredible,
<v Speaker 1>And that's that's valid.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's that's what you enjoy.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, But those games in the grand scheme of things
<v Speaker 1>have diminishing returns if they're they're cool to price point
<v Speaker 1>is how good the game looks. Yeah, And at this point,
<v Speaker 1>like a lot of games that have been coming out recently,
<v Speaker 1>they all start to look the same, like even like
<v Speaker 1>I know it's kind of like a cliche example, but
<v Speaker 1>I look at like, Okay, I look at like two K,
<v Speaker 1>I look at Madden like I s like the games that.
<v Speaker 2>They are diminishing returns every year.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you know it's because it's it is just
<v Speaker 1>the same game and they try to definitely enhanced it.
<v Speaker 1>But even with some of the newer games that have
<v Speaker 1>been coming out too, like you there, it's only so
<v Speaker 1>further you can go.
<v Speaker 2>Until ww's looking pretty realistically. True, those games you look sick.
<v Speaker 2>Even on the switch too, they look really good.
<v Speaker 1>That's true, but like there's only a certain point you
<v Speaker 1>can go before, like you have to take a huge leap,
<v Speaker 1>and I feel like the closest game that can do
<v Speaker 1>that is GDA six.
<v Speaker 2>But but GDA six will actually be a fun game exactly. Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>That so that and like that's like I feel like
<v Speaker 1>that could be the leaping point for where could you
<v Speaker 1>go next graphically for a game, because you can only
<v Speaker 1>make it look so realistic until you're basically just you're
<v Speaker 1>putting too much in the graphics of that point and
<v Speaker 1>not the gameplay.
<v Speaker 2>So true, King, thank you for sure.
<v Speaker 1>So this article says realism doesn't age as well as
<v Speaker 1>more stylistic things. BioShock still looks good, I think because
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't trying to get every not in bolt super realistic. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>that game, I wouldn't say cel shaded, but it was
<v Speaker 1>more cartoony if you remember. BioShock, and then Infinite specifically
<v Speaker 1>had a very like brightened, vibrant art style. He also
<v Speaker 1>pointed at the popularity the grund popularity of more affordable
<v Speaker 1>and less technically ambitious hardware such as switch To and
<v Speaker 1>vows upcoming Steam focused devices, saying the industry may already
<v Speaker 1>have reached a level where additional graphical leaps are no
<v Speaker 1>longer essential. Look at say the switch Too and even
<v Speaker 1>the new Steam machine coming out. Those are not massive
<v Speaker 1>technological upgrades. That wasn't their strategy. I think people are
<v Speaker 1>realizing we're hitting a bit of diminishing returns with that.
<v Speaker 1>And it's true both of those systems are kind of
<v Speaker 1>just aiming at giving players more ways to engage and
<v Speaker 1>play with video games, and obviously portably is a big one.
<v Speaker 1>You don't need to be on the cutting edge technology
<v Speaker 1>all the time. Even the stuff we're doing in Judas,
<v Speaker 1>which I guess is this company is all narrative stuff
<v Speaker 1>we're doing. It's not CPU intensive, it's work intensive on
<v Speaker 1>our side. And I think this is something that Nintendo
<v Speaker 1>has known for a long time. Yeah, Like that's why
<v Speaker 1>a lot of their games are cartoony and stylistic and
<v Speaker 1>cell shaded, and they have this longevity and they can
<v Speaker 1>look back at their career of video games other than
<v Speaker 1>on sixty four of COSE. They tried their best, and
<v Speaker 1>they can see that their games hold up. Games like
<v Speaker 1>wind Wakers still holds up today. A lot of their
<v Speaker 1>games still hold up, which is why Nintendo's consoles have
<v Speaker 1>never needed to be cutting edge. Like the value in
<v Speaker 1>Nintendo's consoles has never been we can outperform the other consoles,
<v Speaker 1>you know, and that's not something that like sells like
<v Speaker 1>it used to. I mean Xbox Series X for example,
<v Speaker 1>and like Xbox in general, it's big seller. A lot
<v Speaker 1>is like playing with Power, It's like we're the best
<v Speaker 1>looking console. It's like yeah, but nobody really cares because
<v Speaker 1>it's not fun to play on the console. Microsoftware the
<v Speaker 1>console wars between them, like yeah, you can perform the other.
<v Speaker 1>When it comes to it became very much about that
<v Speaker 1>and PlayStation ended up winning because not only could it
<v Speaker 1>compete and in many ways look as good, if not
<v Speaker 1>better at times, but it had games, It had fun
<v Speaker 1>exclusives and fun experiences, so it out won the battle
<v Speaker 1>because end of the day, that's all that really matters,
<v Speaker 1>and that's what Nintendo does in droves. That's the value
<v Speaker 1>that Nintendo brings out a company. And with the console,
<v Speaker 1>it's the games, it's the platform, it's the experience, it's
<v Speaker 1>playing anything anywhere anyhow.
<v Speaker 3>Well, it's because Nintendo is so unique when it comes
<v Speaker 3>to like they create their own games and then they
<v Speaker 3>don't like, uh, let they'd be like cross compatibility between
<v Speaker 3>other consoles, you know. So it's just like there is
<v Speaker 3>to play their games on their consoles, and everything is
<v Speaker 3>like you said, like the graphics are not so graphically
<v Speaker 3>intense that they need insane hardware. So they do have
<v Speaker 3>that edge when it comes to the uniqueness of like
<v Speaker 3>all of their first party titles.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yes for sure. And also the switch to is
<v Speaker 2>way more powerful and a lot of people realize realistic
<v Speaker 2>like no, Zelda does not need to be hyper realistic
<v Speaker 2>if they make ot remake like they did Star Fucks,
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna be pissed playing through Resident Evil nine and Pragmata.
<v Speaker 1>I knew I wasn't getting the best looking like version
<v Speaker 1>of those games, but they looked great, and they looked
<v Speaker 1>more than good enough for me to enjoy the actual
<v Speaker 1>fun game at its core. And if the only thing
<v Speaker 1>giving those games value was how good it looked, I
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't play it anyway because it wouldn't be fun.
<v Speaker 2>It wouldn't hook me.
<v Speaker 1>I'll be loaded up and be like, oh that's pretty
<v Speaker 1>and then get bored.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I think that's good conversation. I mean, right, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>I mean.
<v Speaker 3>So you're happy about the price, Well, so I wish
<v Speaker 3>it was more raised the price wasn't that?
<v Speaker 1>Wasn't that like the hashtag whatever that people were saying.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, yeah, I think we can all roll in Unison, sorry,
<v Speaker 1>all in agreement with the idea that the console is
<v Speaker 1>worth it.
<v Speaker 2>Well, speak for yourself, buddy, I never said that. Oh
<v Speaker 2>you don't think it is? What do you think? You
<v Speaker 2>can't have a different opinion?
<v Speaker 3>No, I know, but you know I don't want to
<v Speaker 3>have a different opinion if it means getting cooked.
<v Speaker 2>Oh oh, I see it's going to be serious.
<v Speaker 3>I do agree that the switch because at first I
<v Speaker 3>was resistant to the idea of it being even four fifty.
<v Speaker 3>But then when you told me that Nintendo's losing on
<v Speaker 3>each one of their consoles, and then I did my
<v Speaker 3>research and I saw that they actually are in fact
<v Speaker 3>losing money with every single switch they're.
<v Speaker 1>Making well that they're not losing money, but the bracket
<v Speaker 1>is pretty well in some situation.
<v Speaker 3>It was like in like Japan, they went yeah, like
<v Speaker 3>in countries, so it's like it wasn't the same universal.
<v Speaker 3>So it's just like they're really trying to keep the
<v Speaker 3>you know, like a breaking point where they're not bleeding
<v Speaker 3>so much and they're not necessarily profiting off yet. So
<v Speaker 3>when I saw that, I was like, Okay, I'm actually
<v Speaker 3>more empathetic about the price of the switch to not
<v Speaker 3>that I'm like happy selling out four fifty five hundred,
<v Speaker 3>but it makes more sense.
<v Speaker 2>It's not like, oh, they're greedy and they're just money hungry.
<v Speaker 3>You're trying to squeeze out as much money out of
<v Speaker 3>us because they know where there's this emotional attachment with
<v Speaker 3>like their games and whatnot.
<v Speaker 1>Like you have to yeah, I mean in general to me,
<v Speaker 1>like dropping five hundred and anything is also kind of
<v Speaker 1>like a questionable thing to do every now and then.
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, buying it once for the next decade, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>exact pretty much.
<v Speaker 2>So like it's you said too, it's an investment, but
<v Speaker 2>like it's a game console that already has so much
<v Speaker 2>going for it. Yeah, and it's just every game that
<v Speaker 2>comes out as just a bonus.
<v Speaker 1>Not to mention. Again, like depending on your situation. If
<v Speaker 1>you don't even have a Switch one, you're buying into
<v Speaker 1>a library of fifteen thousand games.
<v Speaker 2>That's literally which is pretty insane.
<v Speaker 1>And they just did that patch where all those games
<v Speaker 1>look better on Switch to Next.
<v Speaker 2>So you could see exactly. And it's like, think about it.
<v Speaker 3>You're buying a console once every seven eight years, when
<v Speaker 3>a Nintendo console is unless you're getting like different versions.
<v Speaker 1>You're buying a phone once every three to four years. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>and you're paying double the price. People spend fifteen hundred
<v Speaker 1>on the phone. A lot of the same people that
<v Speaker 1>will complain I.
<v Speaker 3>Bought the iPhone and it does the same thing as
<v Speaker 3>the sixteenth pro or.
<v Speaker 1>Again, like and and again, I don't want to go
<v Speaker 1>down the avenue, but the same people, like we all
<v Speaker 1>make bad choices sometimes we buy like an ambo that
<v Speaker 1>we think looks good for forty.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I stopped that a long time ago. I've slowed
<v Speaker 3>down on it. For me, are sitting in a box
<v Speaker 3>in my attic. I I don't want to have every me,
<v Speaker 3>but I think that's.
<v Speaker 1>Sell you could. Yeah there's a Yeah, there's a game
<v Speaker 1>store next to me.
<v Speaker 2>It does.
<v Speaker 1>I not that it matters, but I do wish I
<v Speaker 1>could convince more people that this console is is wor
<v Speaker 1>it was worth for fifty like that was one. I
<v Speaker 1>made a lot of videos about it, but just you know,
<v Speaker 1>the like every element to it is more improved over
<v Speaker 1>a Switch one, like like and I mean like the shell,
<v Speaker 1>the buttons, like the screen, the sounds, the size, the size,
<v Speaker 1>I mean the bigger screen. Everything about it is bigger
<v Speaker 1>and better. So if the Switch one is three hundred,
<v Speaker 1>you're already need to push it up. And then you
<v Speaker 1>have the internals and like this like thing they're doing
<v Speaker 1>with the AI up scaling and all the tech that
<v Speaker 1>goes into that that are pushing these games so that
<v Speaker 1>we can get these really cool experiences and be competitive.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, like Switch one was great, it was cheap,
<v Speaker 1>it was affordable. But if you go back and play
<v Speaker 1>that now one you can kind of feel that the
<v Speaker 1>system does feel cheaper. It doesn't feel like it's quality
<v Speaker 1>of a build, and it really struggled to keep up.
<v Speaker 1>Like it's sweet spot was Xbox three sixty and like
<v Speaker 1>we dealt with that for eight years, even into the
<v Speaker 1>PlayStation five era, right, and then with this new one,
<v Speaker 1>we were kind of hoping that it could do PlayStation
<v Speaker 1>four really well, and it's already giving us brand new
<v Speaker 1>PlayStation five games and like it's that's crazy. It's so crazy,
<v Speaker 1>Like everything about it is so much better, So like,
<v Speaker 1>what is it going to be the same price as
<v Speaker 1>the switch? One? That doesn't even make sense.
<v Speaker 2>It's true.
<v Speaker 3>The build quality is something that I noticed, like every
<v Speaker 3>time I pick up my old switch, or especially my
<v Speaker 3>wife's regular switch, it literally feels like a piece of
<v Speaker 3>plastic toy. Like it's so flimsy and fragile. I'm like, bro,
<v Speaker 3>there's no way I was like comfortably like throwing this on.
<v Speaker 1>It's such a I talk about this sometimes, but there's
<v Speaker 1>a weird like especially with Nintendo effect, where like when
<v Speaker 1>you have the thing, it's the coolest thing.
<v Speaker 2>It feels so new and it's so fun and fresh.
<v Speaker 1>As soon as you get the next thing, you look
<v Speaker 1>back and you're like, oh, oh my god. What One
<v Speaker 1>of the biggest leaps was the DS that was like concave,
<v Speaker 1>which I think it's like the first Yeah, would always
<v Speaker 1>be silver like and it was like weirdly box and
<v Speaker 1>then you get that new nice like slim and you
<v Speaker 1>look back and you're like, what the hell? It happens
<v Speaker 1>every time? Every time? Ah right, so let's do a poll.
<v Speaker 1>We should do so you're actually plugging my computer again?
<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, can I or I can? Can?
<v Speaker 2>The host of the show? I can? I could. I
<v Speaker 2>didn't want to forget.
<v Speaker 1>From man, you really are in narcissis set here.
<v Speaker 2>I'll do the pool, I could do it.
<v Speaker 1>The poll.
<v Speaker 2>The pole I was gonna do.
<v Speaker 1>Is uh huh. What's the poll is? Is the switch
<v Speaker 1>to worth five hundred? Let's just keep it simple, yes,
<v Speaker 1>yes or no? This isn't like, do you prefer it
<v Speaker 1>to be four fifty, because obviously yes, nobody wants to
<v Speaker 1>prefer it to be four to fifty. We'd all prefer
<v Speaker 1>to walk into some random flea market and find one
<v Speaker 1>for two hundred. And they were wrong, and they thought
<v Speaker 1>it was a switch one or something, but of course
<v Speaker 1>I'd rather it be less. You think Ali Baba's selling
<v Speaker 1>a switch maybe switch twos? Maybe, but be honest, is
<v Speaker 1>it worth five hundred? And we might be in a
<v Speaker 1>little bit Brenton was like yep. The Red was like, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>we might be in a little bit of an echo
<v Speaker 1>chamber here. I mean, we're all friends and fans of Nintendo.
<v Speaker 1>So but I don't feel like somebody said they paid
<v Speaker 1>six hundre for it, yo, tier reader, are you Canadian?
<v Speaker 2>No? It's six on USD. A lot of people do.
<v Speaker 1>And I want to say this, and I feel like
<v Speaker 1>I shouldn't have to say this, so I forget to
<v Speaker 1>say it a lot. But often when I do this,
<v Speaker 1>I'll get comments and they'll be like, yeah, well in
<v Speaker 1>Canada it's six hundred, seven hundred. I'm like, yeah, but
<v Speaker 1>that's Canadians the same, right, it's the same. Yeah, you
<v Speaker 1>get that six hundred here, it's going to be five
<v Speaker 1>dollars in Australia is probably like nine hundred or something.
<v Speaker 1>But like that, it is almost always the exact exchange rate,
<v Speaker 1>literally almost always. And they do that for many reasons,
<v Speaker 1>but one of them is so that people in those
<v Speaker 1>countries or wherever it's like more expensive, can't buy it
<v Speaker 1>and import it or scalp it, or we can't scalp
<v Speaker 1>it there.
<v Speaker 2>It has to be the same price. It's always the
<v Speaker 2>same price.
<v Speaker 1>So it's just you know, if it's more or less
<v Speaker 1>for you because your economy is better or worse. I mean,
<v Speaker 1>Nintendo and I can't really help you with that.
<v Speaker 3>So far, we're eighty to eighteen people saying no, that
<v Speaker 3>it's not worth No, No.
<v Speaker 1>I can see it's eighty two percent with two hundred votes.
<v Speaker 1>It's eighty twenty, which I think that's pretty indicative.
<v Speaker 2>You've got a thousand people here, Guys vote up.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you can vote up. But I think that's pretty indicative.
<v Speaker 1>I think I think people are on board. I think like,
<v Speaker 1>especially if you have the system, especially if you had
<v Speaker 1>it for the last year, if you werely like there
<v Speaker 1>is an opposite thing of buyers remorse right where you've
<v Speaker 1>had you've had it for a year and you're like, oh, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I got way more fun out of this, and I
<v Speaker 1>expected I was happy to pay four fifty. Now that
<v Speaker 1>I know how much fun I have and how much
<v Speaker 1>how good Pickolpi, I can't imagine not having played it,
<v Speaker 1>bro I would.
<v Speaker 3>Go back and spend five I literally sometimes like talk
<v Speaker 3>to some of my friends who haven't about the switch to,
<v Speaker 3>and then in my heart I feel pity for them.
<v Speaker 2>Experienced. Oh yeah, I feel that a little bit. Sometimes.
<v Speaker 3>You know, it's like, dude, not now, It's true. It's
<v Speaker 3>like you get the opposite of buyer's remorse with it.
<v Speaker 1>I have to be careful not to be like, let's
<v Speaker 1>make a face when someone's when I'm talking like a
<v Speaker 1>friend and they're like, I don't have a switch to
<v Speaker 1>because it's my whole thing. So I'm like, oh really,
<v Speaker 1>then I don't know what to talk to you about.
<v Speaker 1>I don't know where we are. Yeah, poll is pretty
<v Speaker 1>much an eighty percent yeah worth it.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I appreciate that, everybody, all right.
<v Speaker 1>I think we broke that down well and truly I
<v Speaker 1>think that for this episode I will be called a
<v Speaker 1>shill this one.
<v Speaker 2>The last one I was a grifter with the stuff. Fucks. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>because I've stayed on should we be grifters today or shills? Guys?
<v Speaker 2>What do you never know?
<v Speaker 3>You really don't with the podcast although or should we
<v Speaker 3>be fence sitters and not having an opinion.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're like, well, just over your wallet? Actually, can
<v Speaker 1>I want to do something funny.
<v Speaker 2>Honestly?
<v Speaker 1>Oh now my computer turns back on, so this is
<v Speaker 1>going to take a few minutes. But I thought it
<v Speaker 1>was funny. So I've I've done something here. Oh so,
<v Speaker 1>last week on the podcast, we talked about stuff foks. Right,
<v Speaker 1>we did, And I will say that most of the
<v Speaker 1>comment all of the comments were about, to put it nicely,
<v Speaker 1>how wrong I am.
<v Speaker 2>A week I didn't even read the comments they were.
<v Speaker 1>They were essentially all saying I really like the design,
<v Speaker 1>and they would have one hundred likes like I really
<v Speaker 1>liked it. And most of them were just objectively like
<v Speaker 1>I actually like it, which is great.
<v Speaker 2>I want that. That's healthy conversation.
<v Speaker 1>But there was a lot of Woods just a hater
<v Speaker 1>Wood sucks Woods, just crapping on this thing, like Woods
<v Speaker 1>bringing hater energy, would hate staff fox Wood was ready to.
<v Speaker 1>So what I've done here is I actually edited up
<v Speaker 1>last night a three minute, edited down version of my
<v Speaker 1>thoughts on stuff foxs from last week.
<v Speaker 2>Oh really, so you've conceded now you like it?
<v Speaker 1>I am just letting you know from last week I've
<v Speaker 1>edited down my thoughts, and I tried to touch on
<v Speaker 1>every element, the redesigns, the graphics of the game, the
<v Speaker 1>gameplay of the game, the price, everything into three minutes,
<v Speaker 1>and we're gonna see.
<v Speaker 2>Would the hater talk about staff?
<v Speaker 1>Fucks, let's see it. This is for you guys, all right,
<v Speaker 1>so we can take a look at it. Here. It
<v Speaker 1>came out of nowhere.
<v Speaker 2>I don't know why. It sounds like that. Know, the
<v Speaker 2>audio got blown out.
<v Speaker 1>It's very cinematic Star Wars very I was hyped.
<v Speaker 2>I was exciting wings. It definitely was exciting I have
<v Speaker 2>I saw this.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well yeah, yeah, I'm still not a fan bro thing.
<v Speaker 1>I'll be the only hater, like an objectional it's a
<v Speaker 1>modern box. I mean it's odd, right and like somebody
<v Speaker 1>made it so clearly someone likes it, so it makes
<v Speaker 1>sense that they're going to be people that do like it. Okay,
<v Speaker 1>So that's what I said about the redesign, right, I
<v Speaker 1>don't know hater thoughts, that's just their initial thoughts. Right,
<v Speaker 1>you probably said more living.
<v Speaker 2>My first reaction was gorgeous looking game. I love the visuals.
<v Speaker 2>Looks obviously way.
<v Speaker 1>Better than the water version, which would be a surprised
<v Speaker 1>but y gorgeous. I do like you know, the designs,
<v Speaker 1>so I said it look gorgeous. Design Society said fantastic.
<v Speaker 1>It's very high quality. This battle mode, which is cool.
<v Speaker 1>That's actually si. I like that.
<v Speaker 2>Very positive.
<v Speaker 1>Added mouse which looks like this goes, this goes first person.
<v Speaker 1>That's cool in the Yeah, that's it. That's I like
<v Speaker 1>that actually surreal effect, you know what. I think I
<v Speaker 1>would actually prefer playing the campaign, like I'm excited to
<v Speaker 1>play the.
<v Speaker 2>Game actually really cool, as I thought that was cool.
<v Speaker 1>One of the big things I keep complaining about is
<v Speaker 1>the camera and the lack of like cameras. This is
<v Speaker 1>a really cool innovative. I love it.
<v Speaker 2>I love love it. I love it.
<v Speaker 1>That's awesome. That's a really cool feature.
<v Speaker 2>So this is good. I think that's good.
<v Speaker 1>But I still thought they were going to charge more
<v Speaker 1>just because of how refreshed it looks with these I
<v Speaker 1>thought it looked so good it would be yeah, yeah, oh,
<v Speaker 1>I didn't mean to pause it like like a quick,
<v Speaker 1>there's a minute left. I think, sorry, I'm not realizing
<v Speaker 1>there's not much hate here. I'm sure it comes yeah, yeah.
<v Speaker 2>I mean right.
<v Speaker 1>I thought we'd still be up in the sixty or
<v Speaker 1>seventy range. So I think this is a good price.
<v Speaker 1>I think it's actually a surprising price and a great price.
<v Speaker 1>My favorite will be this new one. Oh, I can tell,
<v Speaker 1>just based off Wait, No, I'm sure.
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure that hate's coming again because here I said
<v Speaker 2>that this new stuff Fox will be my favorite one.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, not the hate has to be after this. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I already alone to make it. Yes, baseline, even though
<v Speaker 1>I don't like the game necessarily or the unrail shooter element,
<v Speaker 1>it looks gorgeous. I'm sure it's gonna have a lot
<v Speaker 1>of updated features, and hey, maybe it'll be the best
<v Speaker 1>Unrail shooter I've ever played, and I'll be I'll be
<v Speaker 1>awakened to it and like, is this me talking?
<v Speaker 2>Hmmm?
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes I think that I'm being a hater because I
<v Speaker 1>don't like every release or some don't really Well, how
<v Speaker 1>am I already addressing the comments? That's it's like you knew?
<v Speaker 1>Wait was this from this week or last week? I
<v Speaker 1>think it was last week.
<v Speaker 2>You're a time traveler.
<v Speaker 1>I don't have to like it all, you know, I don't.
<v Speaker 1>There's enough to love something.
<v Speaker 2>Some things are okay, some things I don't like it's
<v Speaker 2>just there's so much like I'm just gonna gobble it
<v Speaker 2>all up like a hungry Disney adult. You know, I
<v Speaker 2>don't know. It kind of sounds like the adults might
<v Speaker 2>not like that one.
<v Speaker 1>No, that's true, and I'm not mad that like like
<v Speaker 1>stuff folks like I don't like.
<v Speaker 2>It's not for me.
<v Speaker 1>I'm not mad about it. Well three minutes so like
<v Speaker 1>what did the comments were really like roasting you?
<v Speaker 2>Huh?
<v Speaker 1>A lot that was saying that I was being a hater,
<v Speaker 1>And it's like, we're gonna talk about it in the
<v Speaker 1>patron episode today. But sometimes I'm like, where do these
<v Speaker 1>narratives come from? Like what did you watch? Or even
<v Speaker 1>the bigger question, did you even watch it at all?
<v Speaker 1>That's what I And sometimes I'm like, is it the
<v Speaker 1>thumbnail and title, because like the title was like the
<v Speaker 1>situation's a mess. But I was obviously talking about this
<v Speaker 1>blow up reaction online and I put all the comments in,
<v Speaker 1>so I didn't think it the game looked like a mess.
<v Speaker 1>One thing I said, I don't like the character, which
<v Speaker 1>is I pretty universally agreed upon thing I think.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and if all the comments imagine if you I
<v Speaker 3>bet you you said you like the characters, bro, the characters.
<v Speaker 1>Are if we had If we had loved the characters,
<v Speaker 1>all the comments would be like, I just wish the
<v Speaker 1>eyes were bigger.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this looks too, I just don't like the feet.
<v Speaker 1>I think I made some weird artistic twice.
<v Speaker 2>Anyway, I was blown away reading the comments, and I
<v Speaker 2>was like I said, I was excited. Yeah, but it
<v Speaker 2>I thought, I don't know.
<v Speaker 1>All right, we I wanted to do a shorter episode,
<v Speaker 1>but we can go for an hour and a half.
<v Speaker 2>We got like ten minutes left. There, you go, what
<v Speaker 2>do you want to talk about? Someone tried to.
<v Speaker 1>Oh, yeah I did see that. We do have a
<v Speaker 1>game too? Later, yeah, oh we have a game.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Pulled that article though. No, I don't know if
<v Speaker 2>I even want to talk. Okay, probably not.
<v Speaker 1>Someone was threatening the Nintendo headquarters. Oh really did you
<v Speaker 1>see that? No, with a with a B threat.
<v Speaker 2>With a B threat?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah a B oh, and say, oh I don't want
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to tool. But we rested because they
<v Speaker 1>weren't happy. It was a stoff folks, remake no, no
<v Speaker 1>what it has?
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, imagine, bro, remember when that guy pulled up to
<v Speaker 3>YouTube and tried to you know.
<v Speaker 2>I think I do. What year was that?
<v Speaker 1>Is that in New York?
<v Speaker 2>No, it was in California.
<v Speaker 3>And then yeah, you do something crazy because YouTube apparently
<v Speaker 3>stopped recommending their videos.
<v Speaker 2>That's okay, that would do it for me. Yeah, that's
<v Speaker 2>a bit extreme. We I don't want to end up
<v Speaker 2>a negative neard something positive.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I was gonna talk about Metro Prime sales, but
<v Speaker 1>that's just kind of sad. That's kind of sad, isn't
<v Speaker 1>it really? What are the what are the numbers looking like?
<v Speaker 1>Is they're not they have not passed a million yet.
<v Speaker 2>Oh, let's just do your game. Yeah, this nets to be.
<v Speaker 3>Happy alrighty forever man.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, someone said watching Wood, watching Wood nice? And then
<v Speaker 2>next week you got to react to that clip of you.
<v Speaker 2>Oh I might when they come and then it's like
<v Speaker 2>we just do that every week and then have like
<v Speaker 2>at one point.
<v Speaker 1>We'll have to get Brenton to put a camera on
<v Speaker 1>the other side.
<v Speaker 2>We can watch the reaction. All right, we'll do that
<v Speaker 2>next week.
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes I'll see streamers do that, well, they're reacting to
<v Speaker 1>a clip of someone reacting to them reacting to a clip.
<v Speaker 2>And I'm just like, I see four of them and.
<v Speaker 1>Especially in drama clips when they go back and forth exactly,
<v Speaker 1>pinging back and forth.
<v Speaker 3>Tech tone and all the other creators always wonderful, wonderful creators.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what's game? Anyway?
<v Speaker 3>So this game I've been sitting on for the last
<v Speaker 3>few weeks because we haven't done one.
<v Speaker 1>I know, I kept pushing it. Sorry, we're doing and everything.
<v Speaker 1>So this one is pretty straightforward.
<v Speaker 2>Word.
<v Speaker 1>You can only save one and the other is gone forever,
<v Speaker 1>no new games, no future appearances.
<v Speaker 2>This is easy. This is gonna be easy. I love
<v Speaker 2>being cut throat with these get rid of stuff foks.
<v Speaker 3>I don't think Starbucks is in this. This is before
<v Speaker 3>we knew about the reveal.
<v Speaker 1>Oh, I see, so this is just We're gonna start
<v Speaker 1>at lighting and then it gets pretty serious.
<v Speaker 3>Oay, okay, hold up, okay, good thing. That thing covers it. Well,
<v Speaker 3>that's placed so perfectly so you can't see the characters anyways.
<v Speaker 3>The first we have a toad versus goombas Toad.
<v Speaker 2>Why'd you pick such flamboyant ones? Well, what is flamboyant
<v Speaker 2>about them? You know? Well?
<v Speaker 1>I just meant like, the images are very colorful. It
<v Speaker 1>was on a bike, it's on a mustag is the
<v Speaker 1>non Tendo podcast. Of course, Brenton's laughing that I said flamboyant.
<v Speaker 1>That's not really the one I was looking at. Vibrant, Vibrant.
<v Speaker 1>I don't really care. I got to eat save them.
<v Speaker 1>We can delete both if that's okay, No, got cake
<v Speaker 1>one and delete the other. You know, we're starting to
<v Speaker 1>out light, so there's no emotions attached. So we're just
<v Speaker 1>testing the water so you get the concept.
<v Speaker 2>Of the game.
<v Speaker 1>I feel like, oh my god, I'll never see a total.
<v Speaker 1>Really don't care about either of them.
<v Speaker 3>So you're telling me, you're telling me you don't care
<v Speaker 3>about total or not at all. He never had any
<v Speaker 3>impact on the Mario movie.
<v Speaker 1>Nope, he annoys me in most of the games. I
<v Speaker 1>hate dealing with him, talking with him. All right, well,
<v Speaker 1>you know, if I were to pick, I would say,
<v Speaker 1>we say you can pick, you can go ahead, and
<v Speaker 1>then we actually like Goomber is like the classic Mario enemy.
<v Speaker 2>It's like the one.
<v Speaker 1>It's the one that he jumps on and it it
<v Speaker 1>sounds like you want going well, I feel like he
<v Speaker 1>I feel like he has more value than Toad.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah wow, okay, well then there's your answer. I feel like, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>I know this.
<v Speaker 1>If we're deleting a Mario character or a Mario enemy,
<v Speaker 1>you have like the Mario enemy and it's not really
<v Speaker 1>the Mario character.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean Toads are pretty much base and well
<v Speaker 3>they replaced Toad with this is no longer Princess Toads
<v Speaker 3>to now she's princess.
<v Speaker 1>But now does this include like all Toads like Captain
<v Speaker 1>Toad and like the.
<v Speaker 2>Video, it's worth those ones. I'll happily get those are
<v Speaker 2>like yeah, those are like you know, side characters. Okay,
<v Speaker 2>well then it's still Toads. Okay, well no more toad
<v Speaker 2>all right, that's fine, all right.
<v Speaker 1>Next up we have Warrior versus Actually, wait, hold up,
<v Speaker 1>Warrio versus Yoshi. This one's easy. Warrior can go, Can go?
<v Speaker 1>Yoshi stays not fussed. Yoshi, I'm keeping for Kim. I
<v Speaker 1>really like again, I'm gonna stress this one more time.
<v Speaker 1>Mario is not my franchise I have. I have no
<v Speaker 1>attachment to these characters at all.
<v Speaker 2>Okay.
<v Speaker 1>I like some of the games. I like Odyssey, Bonanza
<v Speaker 1>was fun. These these characters, these aren't my characters. They
<v Speaker 1>get old.
<v Speaker 2>Go.
<v Speaker 1>I love Zeldas, I love Samus, you know, well, I
<v Speaker 1>prefer the stuff. It's more games than if you put
<v Speaker 1>Fox and Falco. I'd have a harder time deleting one
<v Speaker 1>of them. And I don't even like that franchise that much.
<v Speaker 1>I just like those characters.
<v Speaker 3>I mean, you could just delete Falco and keep Fox, obviously.
<v Speaker 2>That's what I would do. That's what I would do.
<v Speaker 2>That's what you would do.
<v Speaker 1>I would cook that bird, I'd make I'd make KFC
<v Speaker 1>oh Falco nuggets, Entucky Falco.
<v Speaker 2>That doesn't work, all right?
<v Speaker 1>Next up we have Kirby versus you gotta keep Pikachi.
<v Speaker 1>I actually don't really care about Kirby. Okay, sorry, sak,
<v Speaker 1>He's fine. My favorite thing about Kirby is in Smash,
<v Speaker 1>especially early on. One of the most unique in fundabilities
<v Speaker 1>in all of the Smash was taking the copy ability.
<v Speaker 1>I thought that was really cool. I didn't really grow
<v Speaker 1>up with too much Kirby. No, Kirby is like a
<v Speaker 1>staple childho thing for me. Like, come on, I care
<v Speaker 1>about Pokemon a lot. If you would have put a
<v Speaker 1>bunch of Pokemon, I'd have a hard time choosing.
<v Speaker 2>Alright, all right, sounds good, all right.
<v Speaker 3>Next up we have Sonic versus Donkey Kong.
<v Speaker 2>Sorry, don't care. It might take that back. You're never
<v Speaker 2>gonna get another Sonic movie. That's fine.
<v Speaker 1>Sonic gets way more games. Great Sonic movies. They were
<v Speaker 1>a lot of fun. We don't need to keep making them.
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes you can cool well enough a.
<v Speaker 2>Lot for you. How many are they gonna make? Do
<v Speaker 2>you think? I don't know? At least one more?
<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, the four coming out, but then five maybe
<v Speaker 1>after all? Right, next we have Bowser versus get it.
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna keep getting. We're going to keep getting. I
<v Speaker 1>mean I need him for my games. I don't need
<v Speaker 1>Bowser for anything.
<v Speaker 2>I don't. You just don't like Mario.
<v Speaker 1>That's right, you don't Mario, but I like, I'm sorry
<v Speaker 1>if you're if we're this isn't. I wouldn't sit here
<v Speaker 1>on a random podcast and keep saying I hate Mario,
<v Speaker 1>I hate Sonic. But if you're giving me like delete
<v Speaker 1>or say characters, I'm gonna give you an honest opinion.
<v Speaker 1>I don't care about these characters. Okay, Okay, I gotcha.
<v Speaker 1>I mean this is gonna make the rest of it
<v Speaker 1>pretty easy, then definitely would probably That's why as soon
<v Speaker 1>as I saw it and you told me. I was like,
<v Speaker 1>this is easy because also like should be fair. It
<v Speaker 1>doesn't really, I don't whatever.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, okay, next we have a Peach versus all the.
<v Speaker 2>Kippen Zelda, and we're gonna get rid of Peach. Mmm.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, ound is my queen. If I were to choose,
<v Speaker 1>I would also pick Zelda. He pickled over Peace. Zelda
<v Speaker 1>has so much more personality. All right, I'll just I'll
<v Speaker 1>just take Liberty and doing the last one for you,
<v Speaker 1>What did you think was gonna happen, my guy? I mean, now,
<v Speaker 1>if I had known what was gonna Mario, I would
<v Speaker 1>have switched up the whole roster. We could do it.
<v Speaker 2>We gotta run it back.
<v Speaker 1>Now you could run it back and put the Zelder
<v Speaker 1>ones together and put the Mario ones together. Ye, that
<v Speaker 1>would be harder, like it was like Linco Zelder. Then
<v Speaker 1>I would be like for me if.
<v Speaker 3>I have a deep attachment to both Zelda and Mario games,
<v Speaker 3>so for me, it would be a really hard decision.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah that makes sense, Yeah, sense, Like I have to
<v Speaker 1>think about it. Probably, I don't even know what game
<v Speaker 1>for me. I don't even know what would come close
<v Speaker 1>to Zelder for any pairing, But I don't even know
<v Speaker 1>if it would be in the Mario world, like you
<v Speaker 1>might have to go somewhere else because I love I
<v Speaker 1>love a lot of games, like I don't know why,
<v Speaker 1>but the first one that comes to my mind is like,
<v Speaker 1>would you rather delete Zelder or Dante from DMC? And
<v Speaker 1>for me, that's actually harder than you would think. I
<v Speaker 1>would probably pick Zelder, but those are link sorry, but
<v Speaker 1>those are two of my favorite protagonists in like any
<v Speaker 1>video game ever, Like I love Dante. I'd have a
<v Speaker 1>really hard time with that one, yeah, which I know
<v Speaker 1>is like a little bit more off the wall, but
<v Speaker 1>or even like would you rather de Gannendorf or like
<v Speaker 1>Marcus Phoenix from Kids? Or if you did like Marcus
<v Speaker 1>Phoenix and master Chief something like that, I'd be like,
<v Speaker 1>like video games, yeah, okay, but it's just my I
<v Speaker 1>don't know why Mario is Mario. I I know I
<v Speaker 1>have like a Nintendo podcasts so like and it's I
<v Speaker 1>don't know, I feel bad sometimes Mario just never really.
<v Speaker 1>I liked Mario one, two, and three on the NES
<v Speaker 1>a lot, like when I was a kid. Those are
<v Speaker 1>my favorite games on the NES and I still love
<v Speaker 1>them now, Like the first Mario and the third Mario
<v Speaker 1>I will go back and play. I love picking them
<v Speaker 1>up on the Nintendo One line. I have such good
<v Speaker 1>nostalgia for them for some reason. Everything after that until Sunshine.
<v Speaker 1>I loved Sunshine, and then I fell back out again,
<v Speaker 1>and I didn't really love a Mario until Odyssey Interesting
<v Speaker 1>and that that was like my my Mario. And then
<v Speaker 1>Bonanza I adored. I loved thousand Year Door. Actually, thousand
<v Speaker 1>Year Door was huge. Love that one. If you had
<v Speaker 1>put paper Mario in here, I'd probably weirdly have a harder.
<v Speaker 2>Time, but you still would have picked Link if it
<v Speaker 2>was against Link. Yeah, yeah, that makes sense.
<v Speaker 1>But if it was like paper Mario against regular Mario,
<v Speaker 1>I'm picking paper Mario.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, it's weird. I just I never really
<v Speaker 1>connected with Mario. I just I mean, because yeah, I
<v Speaker 1>always for me. Whenever I think about Nintendo growing up
<v Speaker 1>as a brand as a property, I always think of
<v Speaker 1>Link and I always think of Zelda, and my first
<v Speaker 1>go to is never Mario.
<v Speaker 2>And I know that's weird.
<v Speaker 1>It's probably like thinking of Disney and not thinking of
<v Speaker 1>Mickey and going straight to like Aladdin.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, but that's it.
<v Speaker 1>For me, it's like when I think of Disney, I
<v Speaker 1>think of Aladdin, like that's the equivalent. I don't know
<v Speaker 1>why other than that's what I grew up with. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>well that's a pretty good point there, I think. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>all right, well I'll keep that and I'll keep that
<v Speaker 1>in mind for next time I do anything Mario. The
<v Speaker 1>game was fun. No, no, no, I know it's a fun game,
<v Speaker 1>but I don't want to make it seem like I
<v Speaker 1>was trying to make it. I was trying to wood
<v Speaker 1>it up because I knew I was gonna have trying
<v Speaker 1>to be.
<v Speaker 2>Goofy on it. But I appreciate it. It was fun. No,
<v Speaker 2>I understand, No, trust me.
<v Speaker 1>And everyone knows even more how much I hate Mario. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>now we truly know. Yeah, I don't hate Mario. I
<v Speaker 1>just don't have like a deep seated love for it.
<v Speaker 1>Not trust me, You're not the only one. I have
<v Speaker 1>friends that are like that. They're like, you know, they
<v Speaker 1>could never connect with Mario, like yeah, you know, and
<v Speaker 1>they're huge Nintendo fans and identify themselves as massive Nintendo fans.
<v Speaker 1>I would rather play like an Oracle of Seasons over
<v Speaker 1>like a Mario Galaxy. Yeah, just because I'd rather play
<v Speaker 1>a Zelda game. Yeah, it's just like, love love Zelder.
<v Speaker 1>I love exploring higher role, I love playing a link,
<v Speaker 1>I love the adventure, you know. And I'm really not
<v Speaker 1>so much into like platform is. I do like platforms,
<v Speaker 1>it's just not my favorite genre.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>I feel like it's like when people prefer Sonic over Mario.
<v Speaker 3>I feel like a lot of it also has to
<v Speaker 3>do with like that was their childhood game that they
<v Speaker 3>were exposed to more for me. Yeah for me, Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>Like for me, Mario is like what I grew up playing.
<v Speaker 3>Was like my first ever video game experiences was with Mario. Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>so I'm not like attached to him because like all
<v Speaker 3>the story is so rich and beautiful, and you know
<v Speaker 3>that's with Zelda. It's like the game and the story
<v Speaker 3>and everything of it is, yeah what captivates me.
<v Speaker 1>I've talked about this before on the podcast and it's
<v Speaker 1>a deep cut. But like, growing up, I loved reading books,
<v Speaker 1>and one of the books series I loved so much
<v Speaker 1>was Emily Rodders del Tora Quest. Yeah, and it was
<v Speaker 1>just this story of like a young kid who gets
<v Speaker 1>this like magical belt and he has to go out
<v Speaker 1>into the Kingdom and visit all these different locations and
<v Speaker 1>get jewels for the belt, and once he has it all,
<v Speaker 1>he gets powers. He gets a power on each one,
<v Speaker 1>but then he unlocks like it's kind of like the
<v Speaker 1>Thanosk Gauntlet, and then he saves the kingdom and it's
<v Speaker 1>like set in like a Zelda time period of my
<v Speaker 1>castles and everything. So when I ended up playing our
<v Speaker 1>Karina after reading those books, it was like that coming
<v Speaker 1>to life for me, and I've always chased those adventures
<v Speaker 1>since then. It's why Witch of Three is one of
<v Speaker 1>my favorite games of all time, because it's like an
<v Speaker 1>adult version of like those books and Zelda.
<v Speaker 2>So that's just where I love.
<v Speaker 1>Getting into the shoes of a character, into the personality
<v Speaker 1>and role of a character, and going on an adventure
<v Speaker 1>with them, not so much like I can jump on
<v Speaker 1>these platforms and then get a coin over here, which.
<v Speaker 2>Is like, I get why that's on. It's like seratonin,
<v Speaker 2>but it's just not.
<v Speaker 1>It's a lot of cordial, Yeah, a lot of There
<v Speaker 1>was a study done that showed that people who play
<v Speaker 1>Mario games their cordoral levels are a little bit higher
<v Speaker 1>than average, because you know, you're a little on the Edge.
<v Speaker 2>Oh is that true? Yeah?
<v Speaker 1>Oh interesting. My brother showed it to me when I
<v Speaker 1>was there. But have you ever played Fable? I love
<v Speaker 1>Fable play? Yeah, Fable was like, that's my favorite Xbox series.
<v Speaker 1>I'm excited for the new ones. Yeah, but Fable one, two,
<v Speaker 1>and three, especially especially two and three. I mean one's great.
<v Speaker 1>A lot of people prefer it because they removed features
<v Speaker 1>in two or three, but two was my all time goal.
<v Speaker 1>And then I loved three and I played both of
<v Speaker 1>those back in the day so many times. It was
<v Speaker 1>that again. I know I said Witcher was like an
<v Speaker 1>adult Zelda, but that was also an adult Zelda. That
<v Speaker 1>was that was an adult. That was my first adult
<v Speaker 1>all the experience. It was awesome. I love those games anyway. Alright,
<v Speaker 1>I would like to keep it short today, but that's
<v Speaker 1>an hour and night's to do this.
<v Speaker 2>The super chats real quick. Go for it, all right,
<v Speaker 2>Well we'll speak through this. We got a few, so
<v Speaker 2>thank you everyone. Go for it, buddy, all right.
<v Speaker 1>Prof Rock pr that two dollars donation, two dollars towards
<v Speaker 1>your next switch to console purchase.
<v Speaker 2>Thank you for that.
<v Speaker 1>Uh fon Steele with the five dollars checking in on
<v Speaker 1>the super chats. Good luck with the show today, boys,
<v Speaker 1>and shout outs to night Sky great Stream on Tuesday.
<v Speaker 2>Man, hey, shoutow you do. We had a lot of
<v Speaker 2>fun things.
<v Speaker 1>Thank you both of you so much.
<v Speaker 2>Of course, uh.
<v Speaker 1>Evil Robot super Bonus plus episode remember for two months.
<v Speaker 2>Thank you for that.
<v Speaker 1>Wait, I want to keep doing this, but we never
<v Speaker 1>plugged Patreon. We did not know for like the third
<v Speaker 1>week in a row, I didn't show this video that
<v Speaker 1>Express Moon made. Oh yeah, okay, all right, so I'm
<v Speaker 1>going to do a little plug here for Patreon. So
<v Speaker 1>we didn't have I'm going to get back to those
<v Speaker 1>super chats. Sorry, but we didn't have ancert today. So
<v Speaker 1>I would like to once again remind people of Patreon
<v Speaker 1>and YouTube members if you want to support the show,
<v Speaker 1>if you want to help keep this going. By the way,
<v Speaker 1>I realized how many employees does Nintendo have now in
<v Speaker 1>that group chat, Like, I think there's ten in there,
<v Speaker 1>but just but Justin's in there, and and and Pats
<v Speaker 1>in there, So I think I think we're up to
<v Speaker 1>eight employees seven because you don't count as an employee,
<v Speaker 1>you're the boss. Well I pay myself there. Well, there's
<v Speaker 1>not counting me. There's h Brenton cutting right now. We
<v Speaker 1>have Salian Knight in the room. We have shorts EDITORFF,
<v Speaker 1>we have Express Moon, who we hired to do the
<v Speaker 1>r and who has made this thing we're about to show.
<v Speaker 1>Brandon who uploads the audio to Patreon and U, Spotify
<v Speaker 1>and it and all the elder persons and he masters
<v Speaker 1>it too and adds in like little jingles and stuff.
<v Speaker 2>And then is that seven? That's seven?
<v Speaker 1>Okay, am I missing someone?
<v Speaker 2>So you're eight?
<v Speaker 1>I saw I'm the you already said, you said yes,
<v Speaker 1>well you said the other use of counts in with
<v Speaker 1>with Brenton there. So yeah, this show, what I'm saying
<v Speaker 1>is a lot of moving parts now, a lot of
<v Speaker 1>cruise making this possible. And this happened even when we're
<v Speaker 1>not on the air, when you're seeing everything get shared
<v Speaker 1>out to social media's. And then we talked about night
<v Speaker 1>picking up Twitter more and actually engaging more and like
<v Speaker 1>sharing out like when we see we're gonna do some
<v Speaker 1>more social stuff. You'll see a lot more in the world.
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna tur notifications on if I don't see too.
<v Speaker 2>Oh and we have a website now. I didn't talk
<v Speaker 2>about that either. Wow, can actually go to Nintendo podcast
<v Speaker 2>dot com. Whoa really yeah, Nonintendo podcast dot com. I
<v Speaker 2>could do it right now, right now.
<v Speaker 1>So it used to be so when I made it
<v Speaker 1>the other day, it was official, which is like the official,
<v Speaker 1>but we actually got the domain for just.
<v Speaker 2>That's my hoo. And I want you to know something.
<v Speaker 2>I made this website way all on my own. Let's go.
<v Speaker 1>Well, that had a little bit of help from some coding. Coding, yes,
<v Speaker 1>but I made this and I'm so proud of it.
<v Speaker 1>You actually, i'd love for you to go and peruse it.
<v Speaker 1>All the links work. It's really We've got a non
<v Speaker 1>tender one hundred club measure. How come I don't got
<v Speaker 1>this pool? So I always wanted to have a website
<v Speaker 1>for the show. Mostly the main reason I wanted it
<v Speaker 1>is because I wanted somewhere to host all of the merch.
<v Speaker 1>So you can come over here now and you can
<v Speaker 1>check out the merch that we have, and as we
<v Speaker 1>get more, the hot sauce is going to get added here.
<v Speaker 1>So here's the merch that we have for sale.
<v Speaker 2>Brotherhood is so nice. I'm not even saying this because
<v Speaker 2>what gave me one for free? But I'm telling you.
<v Speaker 1>It's one of my favorite pieces of merch and people
<v Speaker 1>always ask me, like.
<v Speaker 2>Bro, what is that? So when I made this, I
<v Speaker 2>think zesf and the chat was like you have merch,
<v Speaker 2>and like you didn't even know. So the merch.
<v Speaker 1>By the way, these first three shirts here or these
<v Speaker 1>three designs, these were all Bob. Bob created these, and
<v Speaker 1>they are all through the retailer or the closed production
<v Speaker 1>that Bob had. So it's the really high quality for
<v Speaker 1>these three specifically really high quality shows. For sure, the
<v Speaker 1>polo I sauced and then the bonus shirt I saw.
<v Speaker 1>They're both very nice, very nice, but they didn't have
<v Speaker 1>that polo available in this other plog, yeah, because I
<v Speaker 1>think those were Bob's version. And then this is my
<v Speaker 1>new lite, so I think that actually is a different version, okay.
<v Speaker 1>And then the socks, so yeah, that's all there, and
<v Speaker 1>I wanted someone to host that. And you can find
<v Speaker 1>this listen page where you can find all the places
<v Speaker 1>that host the show and you can go and listen
<v Speaker 1>to it. And then there's even an about section nice,
<v Speaker 1>and there's even a little tab here for Patreon if
<v Speaker 1>you want to support. The latest episode will always be
<v Speaker 1>updated here automatically you can see today's is already there,
<v Speaker 1>so I yeah, I spent like two or three four
<v Speaker 1>days on this. So so proud anyway, stuff like this
<v Speaker 1>and the show growing and becoming more professional, and I'm
<v Speaker 1>really trying to make it feel like an actual product
<v Speaker 1>auction because it is and I want to reflect that,
<v Speaker 1>and the Patreon helps with that more than anything else.
<v Speaker 1>And the YouTube members. When I say Patreon, by the way,
<v Speaker 1>that's my catch all for YouTube membersiness. But this was
<v Speaker 1>made by our artist Express Moon and it she just
<v Speaker 1>did this and I loved it. I wasn't expecting it.
<v Speaker 1>But it's kind of in a way like an advertisement
<v Speaker 1>for the Patreons. So here you go. I love that. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say the music, it's so good. It's
<v Speaker 1>so cute too. This aesthetic is like the game mixtape
<v Speaker 1>that I was playing. I appreciated her blacking out the
<v Speaker 1>address to really or does she black her address?
<v Speaker 2>Maybe? Maybe just her I saw her so she put
<v Speaker 2>the Nintendo Club card in her wallet, that's her stick
<v Speaker 2>or she made that and then yeah she did, which
<v Speaker 2>I'm now realizing she's to get her own stickers. So
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna got a remedy.
<v Speaker 1>I have to refund her for that, and then us
<v Speaker 1>cooking a brownie at the end, which is adoring, nice,
<v Speaker 1>love it so much.
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, that was the last physical reward that we did.
<v Speaker 1>This was the Nintendo Fun Club card that you could
<v Speaker 1>pick out and put in your wallet and it was laminated. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, thank you so much for that.
<v Speaker 2>So if you want to join, thank you.
<v Speaker 1>If you want to join the Patreon and get rewards
<v Speaker 1>like that, or just get the bonus episodes, like we're
<v Speaker 1>about to do one right now, and we're going today.
<v Speaker 1>We're going to be looking at a ton I haven't
<v Speaker 1>seen them. I have a list of that I believe
<v Speaker 1>Knight and ZESF and was it just those two about
<v Speaker 1>me went through Twitter YouTube or just Twitter, Twitter social
<v Speaker 1>YouTube and Twitter and in some of the short form
<v Speaker 1>and they they've screached and I don't know I feel
<v Speaker 1>about this, but they screeched on it a bunch of hate.
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, so if you want to see getting roasted,
<v Speaker 1>so we're going to get roasted, and we're also going
<v Speaker 1>to react to it in the bonus episode today, which
<v Speaker 1>goes live immediately after this episode. So we're gonna end,
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna go off the air, and then we're gonna
<v Speaker 1>go live again for YouTube members and you can find
<v Speaker 1>a link to that in the member tab on YouTube.
<v Speaker 1>And then we're gonna go live for patreons too, same time,
<v Speaker 1>same stream, and we're gonna have a ton of fun.
<v Speaker 1>You get bonus episodes every week, you get behind the scenes.
<v Speaker 1>We shot some behind the scenes today, you get polled,
<v Speaker 1>you get you asked the patreons for questions today and
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna answer some of those in the bonus episode
<v Speaker 1>today as well. And there's just so many ways to
<v Speaker 1>get engaged with the show and support the show. I
<v Speaker 1>really with the Patreon. It directly supports the show. But
<v Speaker 1>I didn't want it to just be a tip shart.
<v Speaker 1>I wanted it to be somewhere where you guys actually
<v Speaker 1>get called rewards, like literally you get something which baseline,
<v Speaker 1>you always get a bonus episode, but you get more
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<v Speaker 1>So thank you so much for all of our support
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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much. We have to update this for
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we do, Yes, all of the ips and all
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<v Speaker 2>More, you have more? Oh, we didn't do this. You
<v Speaker 2>want me to go through them real quick? You got
<v Speaker 2>a lot of Yeah, I don't want to go you off?
<v Speaker 2>All right, Well, you guys got more, a little bit bonus.
<v Speaker 2>Actually we can keep this. We can keep the bike
<v Speaker 2>music going, all right, even Robot I'm gonna say is
<v Speaker 2>I'm glad I got my switched to from Amazon a
<v Speaker 2>couple of days after the launch day.
<v Speaker 1>Very nice luody by Hershey. Remember for two months on
<v Speaker 1>the secret bonus episodes as well. I will fight anyone
<v Speaker 1>who says shorter episodes. I hear you zastep with the
<v Speaker 1>ten dollars solely start farting rapidly at intense speed.
<v Speaker 2>Oh that is that is Oz. Thank you for those
<v Speaker 2>men business with the money you paid him just so
<v Speaker 2>you can pay him back. I see, thank you. Danny
<v Speaker 2>Benjie mighty fine with the Australian fortune. Nine gradulations on
<v Speaker 2>four years out four years would and to Soley and Night.
<v Speaker 2>You guys have helped take the pod to the next level,
<v Speaker 2>number one.
<v Speaker 1>Pod the world.
<v Speaker 2>Thank you well. I don't want to brag. We are
<v Speaker 2>the one podcast, but I don't want to brag. But
<v Speaker 2>I do believe I've said this before and I could
<v Speaker 2>be wrong.
<v Speaker 1>I do think it is the most viewed YouTube gaming
<v Speaker 1>podcast on the internet.
<v Speaker 2>I think I can agree. I don't know.
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what one is. More if you, if
<v Speaker 1>you guys know one, you can keep talking on. We're
<v Speaker 1>gonna keep going on here Booty again saying five dollars.
<v Speaker 1>Also fight anyone who talks smack about Wood Night or Sully.
<v Speaker 1>Let's go. I appreciate that. I am MQ with the
<v Speaker 1>nine ninety nine.
<v Speaker 2>Hey Wood.
<v Speaker 1>I've started watching you for a while and started watching
<v Speaker 1>the podcast about a year ago. I got my new
<v Speaker 1>favorite controller, the moapad, for my seventeenth birthday on May eleventh.
<v Speaker 1>Love you guys, Happy belated birthday. Congrats to another baby
<v Speaker 1>May birthday.
<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much.
<v Speaker 1>Dragonhart six one three The five Dollars mixtape nothing like Telltale.
<v Speaker 1>Telltale actually gives you control over events. There are videos
<v Speaker 1>of people putting Controllers down and mixtape plays itself. Hey,
<v Speaker 1>I agree with you, that's the point.
<v Speaker 2>Great take.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, the Sleepy funds. He with the five dollars would
<v Speaker 1>thoughts on making a video comparing all the Switch to
<v Speaker 1>Controllers bro a hit though, Yeah, I've done. I did
<v Speaker 1>that for Switch one. That's definitely the kind of idea
<v Speaker 1>that I would revisit eventually. I just need more.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I need to get a little bit further in
<v Speaker 2>so I can do it for sure. Grizzly Nick, thank you.
<v Speaker 2>Welcome to the Secret Bonus episode as well. Think you
<v Speaker 2>becoming a member the Litz my guy with A one
<v Speaker 2>ninety nine both be the grifter and shrill the community needs.
<v Speaker 2>I can agree.
<v Speaker 1>I walk both lines. It's a fine line, but I
<v Speaker 1>straddle it for sure. Fire with Fire, Glitz with the
<v Speaker 1>ten dollars Canadian. I don't usually tune in for the live.
<v Speaker 1>I like to listen to the VOD on Friday while
<v Speaker 1>I'm at work. Just wanted to say thank you, well,
<v Speaker 1>thank you for the donation.
<v Speaker 2>Really appreciate that.
<v Speaker 1>Proft Rock pr the two dollars, Nontendo times two awesome
<v Speaker 1>and prof Rock with the five Gifted memberships for Nontendo.
<v Speaker 1>That's all so much, prof Rop And then all we
<v Speaker 1>got a couple more here too, actually underground with the
<v Speaker 1>ten dollars who actually just said, don't forget to promote
<v Speaker 1>the website and happy anniversary, just sang we just did.
<v Speaker 2>Thank you for that. Thank you, and then thank you
<v Speaker 2>so much. Listen so many.
<v Speaker 1>With the two jewels, the one hundred. Oh is this
<v Speaker 1>like bits or something? I don't know your two jewels,
<v Speaker 1>and then more a couple of jewels. Thank you for that, Jesus,
<v Speaker 1>thank you so much. And then last and not the
<v Speaker 1>siggy welcome to the Secret Bonus episodes. Yeah, I don't
<v Speaker 1>know what the jewels mean, but thank you. Yeah, I
<v Speaker 1>think that's a new thing. I appreciate all of you
<v Speaker 1>so much. And Professor Rock, and like so many of these,
<v Speaker 1>like and Dan and Booty by Hershey and Dragonheart who
<v Speaker 1>are supporting every episode and always in the chat. I
<v Speaker 1>appreciate you all so much. Also, someone in chat said
<v Speaker 1>Kit and Christa has more subs than you. Kit and Christer,
<v Speaker 1>I'm my best friends. I am not comparing myself to
<v Speaker 1>Kitt Chris.
<v Speaker 2>How many subs as they got?
<v Speaker 1>They have like one thousand more subs apparently. But I
<v Speaker 1>also was not talking about subsive episode few. I was
<v Speaker 1>talking about like the podcast itself and I'm curious, but
<v Speaker 1>like it's not a competition.
<v Speaker 2>No, I don't want to start naming certain people.
<v Speaker 1>I'm just I'm just saying that when we were pitching,
<v Speaker 1>they got one ky more than you when we we're
<v Speaker 1>gonna get them when they get Like when we were
<v Speaker 1>pitching to sponsors for the show, I started to look
<v Speaker 1>around at other gaming podcasts that did sponsors because I
<v Speaker 1>wanted to get a gauge of like views so we
<v Speaker 1>could pitch better. And I that that's when I began
<v Speaker 1>to realize I couldn't find another podcast that was doing
<v Speaker 1>video podcasts on YouTube live or otherwise, or that we're
<v Speaker 1>getting more posted views week to week.
<v Speaker 2>And it was a realization where I was like pitch that.
<v Speaker 1>I was like, go to the sponsors and say, like,
<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty sure this is the biggest gaming podcast in America.
<v Speaker 2>Do you want to be a sponsor? Yes?
<v Speaker 1>And again that I could be wrong, but I looked everywhere.
<v Speaker 1>I looked everywhere I look. I'll look this week and
<v Speaker 1>I'll try and find one. We'll try whoever they are,
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna beat them.
<v Speaker 2>Let's go.
<v Speaker 1>Spoke the Secret Bonus episodes, and I want to say,
<v Speaker 1>I'm so proud of it and I'm so thankful for it.
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's been four years and the show is
<v Speaker 1>it's better than ever, so I just appreciate it. Here,
<v Speaker 1>we're having fun, happy. It is an honor to be
<v Speaker 1>here for you, right, Yeah, the narcissists here are guys.
<v Speaker 2>I got you.
<v Speaker 1>We've spent the last twenty minutes talking about nothing. We
<v Speaker 1>need to end all right, let's get out of here.
<v Speaker 1>I love you, O see you in the Bonus by
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