Fat Joe & Jadakiss' BEST DEBUT RAP ALBUMS: Biggie, Nas, Jay-Z, DMX, 50 Cent, N.W.A., OutKast & MORE

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, what up, y'all? This is sat Yoe, it's your boy Jaden kiss. You know what it is that Joe and Jaden show, every show legendary, every show icony.

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Speaker 2: This is the evergreen version of both of those. Let me tell you something, the biggest in the motherfucking globe. Don't let nobody fuck and tell you anything else. We got everybody back paddling, everybody changing up.

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Speaker 3: How they doing?

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Speaker 2: You know these podcasts, they're changing up telling stories now about the time, like they're changing the whole swagging their ship. But they still got dingy black T shirts on. They ain't got the fly ship on. Sure they ain't throwing that ship on. Jay Jada, I ran, I ran, it's you on Fifth Avenue the over there, the cars just pass.

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Speaker 3: You know, he was doing a little browsing, spend a couple of thousands. I love that shit. You love it? Huh?

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Speaker 2: I love it too. Every time I got a little extra dollar, I just want to go. You know what I'm saying, Get fly, get fresh.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. That's my shit right there.

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Speaker 2: Joe and Jada, we dictating the whole podcast game. If we listen to your record it's your new single. If we talk that shit, it is what it is. Viral mania, man, I mean, this is what it is. I just like to be relevant, talk about shit that means something to somebody. When you got top dead or alive, Top five dead or alive, and you got Joe Crackhead.

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Speaker 3: Oh you fucking can't lose.

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Speaker 2: Can't lose, And so today we want to do whateveren meaning you know, we don't need a guess, we don't need none of that tell you the truth. Some of our well, we love all our guests. For some of our greatest shows have been just me and you discussing hip hop. Because we've been around since day one. You know I was you know you've been around.

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Speaker 3: Since day No, No, I've been around. I've been since day three or four. You've been. I've been around since day two you think two? Right, since yay two? Day one.

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Speaker 2: I was just a kid, the baby watching him do it. But I watched him do it. Ruby Deeve grew up around the corner. First Latino MC. He was shot down the blot. No, no, he was in Fantastic Romantic five shot Rock.

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Speaker 3: The first female MC.

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Speaker 1: What's the name of the legendary movie Man, wild Stuff, Wow Stuff, Movie Di is in that and they battling with Charlie Chase and Cold Crush, grand Master Cas and them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Ruby D's in there.

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Speaker 2: But what I'm trying to take my neighborhood, Melly Male, grand Master Flash, all of them.

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Speaker 3: You know, I felt like, guys.

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Speaker 2: Wasn't doing this right, like we you know, what is the reason why when we watched and t You see Charles Barkley, you see Shaquille O'Neill, you see Kenny Smith. These are all legendary figures that have been through everything in the basketball game. So I said, yo, me and Jada got to get into this. The subject we came up with today, it's a legendary subject. Is artists other religious argument another religious Hey, that's what it's about. You know, me growing up even more than growing up, even when I was in the streets, we would break night just argueing about who's the greatest rapper, who got the best bars, who got shot out?

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Speaker 3: My boys shop.

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Speaker 2: We used to go to one forty eight and he used to like day and to day and I used to like slick Rick. That's just normal shit in the hoods. So today I don't think it's a debate or nothing like that. But we're thinking about the best debut albums from an artist.

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Speaker 1: Whoa best debut albums from an art artist, not groups artists, not artists.

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Speaker 3: It could be whatever, but it's really really it could be grouped. It's my art and being forever. You could be here.

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Speaker 2: We can be here forever because Illmatic might be the best piece of art ever made in hip hop records.

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Speaker 3: Nas Illmatic pure hip hop that tates my life. What was it like? It was written better?

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Speaker 2: You know, I got which the barber says the same thing, which the barber says the same I did.

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Speaker 1: Something to my soul, but it was written did something to my blood stream.

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Speaker 3: That's the second album. It was feel like it was written.

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Speaker 2: It was like it to me, Illmatic just just changed the whole game, change how everybody was rapping. You know, Na's coming from a legendary project like Query under mc shan and Mally mal and all these guys, and then it gave you a modern day glimpse at the time of what Queensbridge was about. And so to me, you know, well that's crazy because you know I got some friends who say, man, but I ain't King of Rat the King of Rock debut album nineteen eighty four.

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Speaker 3: King of Rock, Run DMC taught us how to dress.

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Speaker 2: Uh, they with the Blazers, with their didas they had the first endorsement ever.

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Speaker 3: You know what doors that come back.

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Speaker 2: You know what's crazy is I remember when we get the fiftieth anniversary in Yankee Stadium. I felt like they did him wrong because they made them close even though it's run DMC, because it was like late.

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Speaker 3: They started like two in the morning.

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Speaker 1: Took that show down to two days and one day should have been been No ainybody happened? I agree, boy, I gotta wait there, Audien. I mean man, when Rudy was on the show, I was on the sprint watching it. When run DMC came out and it was like the Kings of Raw.

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Speaker 2: You knew that this was like you two rolling Stones, the Legends of All Legends, the Blueprint that this on on and on on. I was watching it like a little kid. I performed already. I went upstairs with my family. I was like, Yo, this is unlike I can't believe. Oh they made music like this, and I could tell you. I was in junior high school and at the time the Treacherous Three, they had that lights. Camera asked me cool with the ax shunk come come up, and everybody was rocking to dad at a talent show. I was at a talent show, you know. I sung John Hall and what is it? John Alles? I sung on stage she only come out and not the meaning now only eye nothing could do.

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Speaker 3: I've seen it say it before.

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Speaker 2: Meanwhile, everybody's dancing hip hop and three girls.

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Speaker 1: All the crack Hall the track Junior High, Junior High.

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Speaker 3: I think you almost had to join the talent show.

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Speaker 2: I did a talent show. Yeah, I think it was part of the curriculum. And man, these three girls came on and they and they told the DJ to play and they played that. It's like that, and that's the way I watched hundreds of kids and the Bronx created hip hop.

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Speaker 1: I don't know any other way to explain it to you. They was not ready to give it to any other borough or whatever. When that shit came on, I watched all the kids in the whole Junior High look at each other life.

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Speaker 3: It was like an alien. It was like AI with some new shit.

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Speaker 2: Everybody looked at each other life Oh it's sofa and these are the new kings of hip hop.

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Speaker 3: It was one play.

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Speaker 2: The whole auditorium was like, oh my god, what's this? So Run DMC definitely they cracked in the whole, the whole.

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Speaker 3: I don't think me and you have a TV.

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Speaker 2: We don't have a podcast right now. If it ain't for Run DMC, I don't think we got nothing. They took this game to the next level.

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Speaker 1: It ain't from who else you're thinking about, Biggie Damn Productions.

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Speaker 3: Man, criminal Minded came nineteen eighty seven.

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Speaker 1: But.

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Speaker 2: You talking, I wasn't even going there like that teacher staying in the Bronx.

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Speaker 3: No, Run DMC made.

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Speaker 2: It on a higher level when you talk about street nineteen eighty seven was a fucking crazy year. It was crazy, right, holy criminal minded, criminal minded? You know care uss one sucked us in horse shit all right?

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, swa whoa who.

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Speaker 2: He got us on the cover looking like Malcolm X with a machine gun. But at the same time he was kicking consciousness and the music. The first time I ever heard consciousness in music was criminal Minded, you know. And uh him, Scott LeBrock, you know the story behind him. He was homeless, and then they became the biggest and they represented my borough. For me, I was willing to die for care Us One that didn't even know him, just felt like he was my idol. He was the icon, he was the he was the Hercules of the Bronx and uh South Bronx. I remember I was in Courtland Avenue and the DJ came and said, we got a new artist.

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Speaker 3: It was care Less One.

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Speaker 2: He was this skinny He had a Bob Marley T shirt on across the hat. He did the South Bronx. By the time he did the South Bronx, he did it twice. By the time he did it again, the whole block party was going South Bros South South Bral. So it was like a one listen and the next thing you know, that ship was crazy, criminal minded. To me, one of the greatest albums ever made the hip Hop Records. But of course one billion percent I'm biased.

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Speaker 1: Now we're gonna take it this long Island kill bum rushed the show, Public Enemy Man, Public Endemia Flavor, the S one W Terminator Act.

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Speaker 3: He should have had the first sunglasses.

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Speaker 1: Deal you wearing those glasses right now because the Terminator acts, Nigga, you ain't bullshit.

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Speaker 3: Terminator Acts should have had the first class deal.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you at the first averageing Flavor Flag the first reality showed to me, Flavor Flave was just it's so weird because Chuck Chalking all this black militant, all this, and Flavor Flavors nine one one to joke like he's just Flavor was like the funny guy from the block and the two. It's almost like fat Joe and Jaden like nobody thought. No, I'm not saying I'll be Flave. I don't got a problem. I love Flavor flav. The point I'm saying to you is our dynamics. Somebody could have looked at this podcast to begin with it at oh no, no way, Jaden's Joe gonna work. But somehow the chemistry is perfect. You got Chuck d h talking as ship and then you got Flavor Flave, who's really a bug out and but we love him.

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Speaker 3: He got his own dance, his own ship and so on.

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Speaker 2: They just kicked in the door for black consciousness and they birthed I think I want to say they birthed everybody, like the Paul Righteous Teachers, that all the groups that came out after them preaching the message consciousness. But their beats was ridiculous. The beats who did the beats again.

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Speaker 3: For the for Tink shocked leading the.

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Speaker 2: I Ain't shocked leading a bomb squad did Ice Cubes album too after he had when he.

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Speaker 3: Came over, he came overhead the long Noland. They came going in too much, going too fast. I'm going too fast. I don't know what the fuck the lissen you're.

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Speaker 1: In nineteen right now, we skipped it and we just doing like tutorials of we got away from what we was told.

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Speaker 3: You know what I think.

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Speaker 2: I think you have a timeline and I'm fried, like I'm fried.

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Speaker 1: No, look my ship twenty twenty five, shite seven, my shit off being rock Kiem nineteen eighty seven.

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Speaker 3: Man paid the full nigg we can stop right here, paid it in full. Do you know how.

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Speaker 2: Credible that them real ups in that fucking jail, them pull ups.

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Speaker 3: Sniggas left and then yeah, they.

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Speaker 2: Taught you, you say to fuck with them jail niggas in the gym. Them nigga got you tortured. Right now, you got about a week fracture you'll be good at And we the small Asian lady. Oh my okay, oh you hot Rocks sounds like the good ship and.

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Speaker 3: They ship like that old you Hot Rocks rescue.

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Speaker 1: I mean pay the full change the game, tap it damn jackets, big truck, crazy ship that can lock the store up with ropes.

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Speaker 3: Rose Royce at least Rose Royices. Yeah, early when you do.

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Speaker 1: Old fashion, he had that Rose roycees early ahead of time doing shit. They had the whole Brooklyn with him, Killer Ben for Fourth Green, Supreme Magnetics, the fifty second, the original stick Up Kid.

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Speaker 3: I mean they came with Crazy our fifth endto that Yo. They came with the whole package and the music. Some people do rocking the best of all time.

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Speaker 1: They don't know that it was Eric Bee's record deal and they put him with Rock Him.

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Speaker 3: Eric B had the deal. That's why I never understood that it's not Rock Him and Eric B.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well the DJ was always Jadsey, Jeffing Fresh, Prince Back at that time.

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Speaker 3: It was Grand Master of Flash and the Furious Five. You B had to deal with you.

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Speaker 1: What I heard from them is Eric B had the record deal and they went and put him with Rock. You know what I'm saying, man, they put him with the best. Hell, that's another one of them. Joe and Jada they put, they put to make this work, and they worked fucking tremendous.

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Speaker 2: You know, I think I got my whole ice grilled from every B when Eric B used to be like No, I'm telling Eric B is.

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Speaker 3: The first nigga that was Dead series and hip hopis the ice crill. Whenever I never forget, I shot my shot.

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Speaker 2: I shot Pun's first video, right, it's Ray Kwan me Nori, and I threw on the sky Blue shoot and I slipped behind Pun Punk was wrapping you on my dollar dollar, and I got this ice grill. And the whole time I'm telling them, I'm like, yo, this the Eric B. It's a remember I got to be Eric Beat. You know, he used to stand with Ray rock Kim. I had to be Fat Joe the rapper when Pun Rap I could be Eric B. So I'm standing back there with the ice grill like dalling Darling bab Man. And then and then and then and then changed our lives. Who else you got on the list nineteen eighty eight.

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Speaker 3: Straight out of company. Whoay, some boys came fucking spress yourself. They came talking that crazy shit. Man.

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Speaker 2: You want to know where I was at when I first heard NWA count I was in one twenty fifth and Dapper Dan, and that shit came up on there on video music box. And when I tell you, it was noisy. Everybody was doing anything. The whole fucking place stopped in silence and looked up at the screen. Was like and easy, and the niggas had the flame throwers and they went fuck coughed and they won it for the copsters. Anybody who was there, it changed their life right then and there. Me as a rapper around that time, I was thinking about getting into rap. They let me know you could rap about anything. Fuck the police, don't matter, just don't bite. It's the world. Like they was doing shit that nobody else was doing, so they like transformed me as a I never forget yet. After I discovered NW eight, I was in my aunt's not my aunt's, my grandmother's house at Washington. I wrote a rhyme and the rhyme completely turned into fuck you suck my dick, your mother, this that, this, this, this like the influence because we had never seen nobody running from the cops. We had never seen nobody saying fuck the police. We never we heard stories like the message, Grandmaster Flash and Furious Five. We heard songs like that, but we never seen somebody dedicate a whole classic album to that. And you see the careers that spawned off. You got Doctor Drake, some say the greatest producer of all time. You got mc wren, you got ice Cube, you got easy E, all these guys, Yo, DJ Yeller, all these guys. They had DC around the top board. DC was one of my favorites. Man, oh my god, the form you look. But you know the we got Dre beats because of that ship. You know what I'm saying. So the legs and the people they put in the game. You know, no Doctor Dre, no Eminem, no Doctor Dre, no fifty cent, no game.

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Speaker 3: Like that whole album, just like Snoop dog poun Snoop.

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Speaker 2: Dog Pound, like Doggy styt Doggy Style gotta be on this list.

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Speaker 3: I'm jumping ahead of time here.

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Speaker 1: You got it, you in the time caps. I do not know your list, you know, lies ahead of which.

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Speaker 3: I'm going off the top. There's a free style straight out of Compton. Can't be next to Doggy Staff, No, no, it's way earlier. They are soul Man nineteen eighty nine.

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Speaker 2: Pot Holes in my refeeding rise, pot holes in my before.

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Speaker 3: I'm a little bit younger, so you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, So they Soul had gangster guys like me that was running blocks, that was doing all type of wild shit, playing boom boom boom answering service. I cal say this sorockerty and a man abody like I knew.

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Speaker 3: I knew I was an asshole.

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Speaker 1: I remember driving into Benz looking at dudes ice, grilling them and and playing.

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Speaker 2: Answering service like I say that Paraga. They had to be yo these guys all the way. Lose these guys. It's crazy. Day O Soul start started that whole preppyat college, Daisy Age. I believe they started all that Queen Latifa mony love jutip, the native tongue thing. I want to say, could be it could be a trial court quest. Well, I want to say that all brought all that ship to give her. The first time I seen kids being in classrooms and videos and being nice guys.

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Speaker 3: The paths of rhythm.

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Speaker 2: Now that right there was totally different. The production on that album. They probably had the best quality that we heard till that moment. They had the first like audio like them drums and snazz was hitting.

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Speaker 3: That shit was crazy, y'all.

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Speaker 2: I might have played that album one thousand times, bro two thousand when Biggie says, well tape pop till my tape pop that ship. That album was such a work of art q Tip Fifth Dog Five Dog was one of my favorite rappers. Although he was simple, he was one of my favorite rappers ever in the history and what they started tryp coll Quest. To this day musically, I believe we should act some producers that to this day, I think producers study uh that first album and and how they put that ship and they were so futuristic. They had guys doing the robot voices back then, this and this and that.

00:23:08
Speaker 3: Like they they they was far ahead of their time. Salute q Tail in nineteen ninety one, man.

00:23:16
Speaker 1: Ali Shahib Scarface, mister Scarface, who the fucking fred.

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Speaker 2: So Scarfaces before the Ghetto Boys because I got the album as the class.

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Speaker 1: Oh shit, I missed it. Ghetto Boys is nineteen eighty nine. Okay, rip it on that other level Boom other than Kang King, the Kompang Them Bang Ticket thing Coman.

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Speaker 2: Bang that Ain't mind playing Can't Sleep now that that's on that album, that first album. That song alone changed my life and let us know that there was guys in the South.

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Speaker 3: Kicking gangs the shit.

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Speaker 2: Everything cinematically from the videos to the music, it was crazy. I remember what's the video with Scarfaces? The girls count money. He goes in her bron pulls out the money like she stole the money. You know what I'm saying in the video, I mean Scarface is every rapper's favorite rapper.

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Speaker 3: He's jay Z's favorite and reacts him. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Besides Big Scarface, him and the ghetto boys, Willie D. Bushwick Bill. I used to hang out with Bushwick Bill.

00:24:36
Speaker 3: Yes, man, I've been around a long time.

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Speaker 2: Maybe the Fever. It might have been the fever. I'm the first guy took Scarface in the Bronx. I took her to the projects. He was like, you guys live like this because you know, Texas even to this day, is all spread out. He couldn't believe that we had twenty floors of dudes living in the jets.

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Speaker 3: I took him to the Wedge, the Wedger Hunts Point.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm a ghetto new at that time, I was straight ghetto, So you wasn't gonna get nothing but ghetto from me. I'll never forget. He asked me a Biggie song came on. What the first biggie sold? He was like, Yo, who's that guy?

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Speaker 3: Man?

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Speaker 2: I like Biggie Swans It's like, Yo, he's fire. He was like, yeah that guy dope. You know what I'm saying. So, Uh, the ghetto, the ghetto boys, you know, shout out Jay Prince. You know, we always try to shout out Texas, Bappo Loot, they independent game, Houston, Dallas, Houston, Dallas. I just came from that North.

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Speaker 1: Worth, San Antonio, Austin nineteen ninety one. Then now it's mister Scarface nineteen ninety one. Scollfaces back.

00:25:43
Speaker 3: That's what that came.

00:25:44
Speaker 2: Scarface is back. What the what kind of impacts call Face had to you? Was you too young?

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Speaker 1: Or it was around yourn we I mean heard of the Ghetto Boys first, then Face, and it seemed like he just gravitated to to what I was doing and what I wanted to do.

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Speaker 3: Well, man, he's some of the besize the ghetto boys. Some of the first ships we've seen from Houston for me was Scarface video. He's legend that mister mister Scarface. Huh. You know what happened with that album right there?

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Speaker 2: I think it was the first time I went down, uh to the atl and you remember, ah, what is it New Jack City? Remember the Brown Scared Girl dancing to I want to say, ask you up that shit?

00:26:34
Speaker 3: Never like a man.

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Speaker 2: I fell in love with that song from that girl dancing and that she was like Keisha from Belly the Girl. Remember even they was fighting over she had the red sinin Man. You remember that I went in the atl Strip Club for the first time and there was some girl up there dancing to that mister, mister scarface. I drove back to New York that song ten thousand times just thinking about that girl dancing to that shit. And that's how influence you. We watched like videos and shit like that. You might love a visual and then you start to gravitate and love that song.

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Speaker 3: Shout out the scarf face.

00:27:17
Speaker 1: Another one in nineteen ninety one, Tupac Apocalypse.

00:27:20
Speaker 3: Now, I don't really know too much about that one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was very early. You know, we talked about the greatest debut albums. You know what I'm saying, so too Tupac. You know all lives on me. All that other work was more prolific than the first album. Now, I can tell you much. What was on the first album. Brenda's Got a.

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Speaker 3: Baby Apocalypse now is the first Brenda Got a Baby? You know that was that think I could have did that stop?

00:27:54
Speaker 2: You know Brenda's got a baby, was like very all it resonated. You know, my projects are saying a lot of ship man I've.

00:28:01
Speaker 3: Seen on telling me seeing a baby in the golf.

00:28:04
Speaker 2: What I'm gonna tell you is that I watched dudes jump off the roof on angel dust though y no of the day, somebody was on dust jumped off the roof. Damn he's still doing that. How about this, somebody in Yo? What kind of day is this? Somebody went outside the smoke a cigarette. Somebody jumped off the roof and landed on.

00:28:35
Speaker 3: Joe. What kind of comment?

00:28:37
Speaker 1: Yo?

00:28:37
Speaker 3: Yo yo? That's yo, yo, yo yo. That's your cat show. Yo. Let me go to let me go blow a bogie with a person. So he's done too right? Double dead?

00:28:52
Speaker 2: No way, Holy shit, I heard everything I think you ever think about.

00:28:58
Speaker 3: When they say the plane crash, that shit.

00:29:00
Speaker 2: Really fall down on somebody house and motherfucker, imagine you in your house and a plane full of you gone, that's it a play?

00:29:08
Speaker 3: What kind of fucking luck is that? Double dad? Who's he your hearst? Who's he your hearst? Leave you? Double dad? Huh?

00:29:19
Speaker 2: I'm a bubblehead. I never listened to nothing. My mama said, Yo, what.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna tell you is that that was happening in the hood, that girls couldn't come home, unfortunately and tell their parents they were pregnant. They would do the baby leaving the Chinese spiders. We're not telling them to do that. We never said that was right, but they was doing that. That's what Brenda Got a Baby was about. Poor Brundon sh nineteen ninety two man UGK two all to swallow, rest in peace, PIMC shout out to my brother bun gonna be gunn In the UGK.

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Speaker 2: Story from the Yeah, I was there when Pimpsy got locked up in the Ati. He pulled the choppers out the chart he was about to shoot the place, and I was there at the boxing match.

00:30:11
Speaker 3: Yes, sir, Pimpsy was different. He's uh. He was one of them guys just don't give a fuck. And if he.

00:30:19
Speaker 2: If he felt the way about you, he tell you right to your face right there and now he really I used to really see him walking around with white furs and ship like that, like the video.

00:30:30
Speaker 3: It was like a pimp.

00:30:31
Speaker 2: He was Pimpsy and he was, and he's far from pussy and if you fucked with him, he was gonna do what he had to do.

00:30:40
Speaker 3: What you got next, brother nineteen ninety two, Why are we going through the years? Man? Just call out the most of it. You get too what I do now? Oh my god, he should be fucking punished.

00:31:00
Speaker 1: Guy who sent this stupid ass our pack.

00:31:04
Speaker 3: He put his greatest debuts on there.

00:31:07
Speaker 1: That's why everything it fucked those just sums that he believes his greatest debut.

00:31:13
Speaker 2: Yea while, we y'all ain't touching that man like I'm touching no on slicks.

00:31:18
Speaker 3: It's great event.

00:31:19
Speaker 1: Rickis definitely your great Adventures is slick Rickets by far one of the greatest greatest albums of all fucking times.

00:31:26
Speaker 3: I don't give up in any genre of music, not even just rap, in music in general. Mollotle fuckers.

00:31:35
Speaker 2: I was living in a crackhead hotel. I came out, true story, left my mother's house when I was like fourteen. House do the same day. So most disrespectful shit you can think of in the world. Imagine your kid leaves your house at fourteen. You look out the window. He's selling crack that ass an hour lady, he's outside like little Joey is outside. And although I used to act tough for my age group, I had to actually sleep in the crackhead hotel. It was like thirty five dollars for the night. When I tell you they was busting dudes heads open with forty ounces all night, or your hurt was the cops wee weird they busting dudes heads open. I opened my hotel door and women were shooting heroin in the aide apidemic.

00:32:31
Speaker 3: Open the door, they shooting dope in my face.

00:32:35
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, I'm staying here by myself and all I'm playing is Slick Rick music in my headphones to get me through the night. And so he gave me the courage to even just make it to the next day and get back on my shit. So even though I was living that type of life, I was terrified. Slick Rick's music is what got me through that time. What else you got for me?

00:33:01
Speaker 3: Brother?

00:33:02
Speaker 2: You don't even want to have nine from me on. So I did not say anumatic way too.

00:33:07
Speaker 1: Early ships out. I mean, it ain't e many of that time. It ain't no timeline REASONA moved out. Okay, I want to say shot Shorty fucking black Moon into the stages, fucking lazy.

00:33:22
Speaker 3: What it did for me, the flows, their meeting, the flow.

00:33:28
Speaker 1: Anything into the stage is one of the greatest debuts.

00:33:32
Speaker 3: Is his debut. Yeah, that's his first album. We're going there.

00:33:36
Speaker 2: We gotta go to the original. We gotta go to Gangstar uh his freemo. What's their first album? Ship Jesus Christ, Gangstar Yo Primo one of the greatest producers of all time. Him Gurgle gul to me was like a professor.

00:33:58
Speaker 3: He was like a Malcolm X said hip hop.

00:34:01
Speaker 2: He was talking that shit, that consciousness, but in a slick tone, way ahead of his time. Let me tell you, I'm gonna go back to the South. I'm gonna say ourcast Southern playerlistic. This is what we hear about outcast is Southern player. This is the first time I ever saw them videos in the backwoods and all that. We had some brothers in the ATL putting it down who love hip hop. That was like real pure hip hop too as well, and that started we think about all the shit that ATL brought After that, they kicked that bitch off. Then we get the Goodie Marb and everything else. We Southern playerlistic. I want to go to Juvenile's four hundred degrees. You heard they mentioned the versus, Yeah, cash money and no limit. Juvenile four hundred degrees.

00:34:54
Speaker 3: Album was great.

00:34:55
Speaker 1: That whole movement when they came out just took the world a storm.

00:35:01
Speaker 3: They pronunciation of words, this everything. They shifted ship, he shifted ship, shut out. The Jude Jewry is still active.

00:35:12
Speaker 2: I know them all over the place, but we gotta go out. Mob Deep first album, the first.

00:35:19
Speaker 3: Album is not the infamous. If you're a real mob Deep thing, it's not the first month ha ha. That ain't their first What was their first?

00:35:31
Speaker 1: Sonyle? Hell, this is their first album. How is the Little Kids juvenile?

00:35:37
Speaker 3: Hell? They was little, they was young. They don't make the listing because they the first two going off album. Yeah, they debut album is Juvenile. Hell the debute to the world on better. So they can't make that. But the Infamous still the infamous.

00:35:56
Speaker 1: To the word they throw out the Holy girl hip hop, Infamous is holy.

00:36:02
Speaker 2: Some people say the best album ever made. Some people say that I drove around like a couple of months ago with Rich the Barber. He knew every word and we just drove around with ice grilled people. We just on our shit. We felt tight grilled people, y'all. We felt tough. But that ain't their debut, So that's not what we're talking about. We're talking about the debut. We're talking about your man DMX. Hell Hell is sh shit.

00:36:32
Speaker 3: Dazy, and a lot of that shit is all old.

00:36:37
Speaker 1: How about that he came out so five million with old rhymes.

00:36:41
Speaker 3: That's crazy because I get mad at people.

00:36:43
Speaker 2: Who want to bring back old shit, Like I'll be like yo getting the studio work right now.

00:36:48
Speaker 1: He took records in rhymes that I heard him, so he heard him before years before the world and it's still with five wasn't the same beat, wasn't the same rhymes though, it was not all of them, just a nice percentage of that first album.

00:37:05
Speaker 3: We heard it before in Wio. It was still powerful. And what was that like to see him? I mean, you know you're around.

00:37:11
Speaker 1: He was already a yaw, was already like he was already a star in Wyo.

00:37:19
Speaker 3: In every hood. When he come through, it was he can put on. Yeah.

00:37:23
Speaker 1: He used to do shows in the school twelve and he had a big battle. He had an infamous battle. He had two battles, but one of them is more better than all with another with another iconic dude rapper from Wyo, Bill Blast Mega Blast, and then.

00:37:41
Speaker 3: Had a big battle. It was crazy.

00:37:44
Speaker 1: That ship was over like five in the morning. Everybody spent the night at my house. Almost got my ass killed because my moms came. You was out there, everybody you was watching. I couldn't miss that. That was part of I rather did anything than I missed that shit. I don't care what the kind to Quincy's was. You couldn't miss that of you was for a while. Actually they get paint staff versus DMX.

00:38:08
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. She was dope, man. She was history and wild.

00:38:12
Speaker 2: You know, big punk Capital Punishment on my executive producer debut, I feel like Pum was ahead of his time. A lot of those guys that we got featured on this album and all that was like they came on the.

00:38:27
Speaker 3: Strength of me. They didn't even know who Pum was.

00:38:30
Speaker 2: But I also knew that the minute I pressed play and they started hearing the music that they were gonna want to get on the album. So everybody you hear on that Capital Punishment album, they came most of them even thought they was doing songs with me. I was already already had two albums out, and when they came, I was like.

00:38:50
Speaker 3: Now you got to hear my man and man.

00:38:53
Speaker 2: That album was speaking for itself since the first day we went in there. It just kept getting better and better and better, and then so on. The dream Shatterer had to ill a beat before it was like a victory, like a like a biggie victory. It was like the beat was too fucking you don't A lot of minds are known the state and it's all. It was crazy, but it was just a beautiful joy effort. And you know, first soloist Latino artists to sell two million records change the game. I think we had ten thousand platinum parties. Everywhere we went it was a platinum part then used a brain. I think punt I had the same people bringing the same platte. We'll be in the tunnel anywhere, yo, platinum, start reincarnating the fucking platinum shit.

00:39:46
Speaker 3: You know he was.

00:39:46
Speaker 2: He was witty, He was incredible lyrically phenomenal, and he puts some hits out the park Man that capital punishment when it sets off with that, I gave you fair warning and man, and you know what's crazy is being that I'm part of this album. You know, it's hard for me to be from the outside there. I always wondered what rappers felt like when they heard Pun's first album and you here, they'll beware, and what that felt like when you press play on that thing.

00:40:21
Speaker 3: No, I really knew what was going on with Pun Man.

00:40:24
Speaker 1: Pun was on the first Man Pun albums came out together, my first album in Capitol Punishment.

00:40:30
Speaker 3: We was on a lot of promo together. Back then.

00:40:33
Speaker 1: They would you know, the labels with he was on planes together. That's the first time I seen somebody with an extra buckle, an extra seat belt. Pun with the first person that he get on, they give him a stend though, and he's sitting on me O Jaya. They gotta give me the thing.

00:40:51
Speaker 3: Me, that's some that's just ill.

00:40:55
Speaker 1: He get on the handle of an extra stendo seat belt buckle.

00:41:00
Speaker 3: Yeah, I knew Pun was my nigga. You know what I mean? We had Pun was that nigga man. I used to be there.

00:41:05
Speaker 1: He used to be snapping on you, snapping on DJI rock.

00:41:09
Speaker 3: Pun was crazy.

00:41:11
Speaker 2: Iraq was the best. He's up upstate. Your man Pun. We did the Apollo around this time, and we went and got We went five thousand and one. We got the match in first. We had like the gray Furst and inside and set big Pun inside and said, fat Joe, I'm sure somebody got that somewhere, and I ain't gonna lie to Apollo. Gave us like twenty thousand dollars. That was a big deal. When I was doing flow, Joe was getting five hundred. Show your man Pun, we get. That's the first money we ever got like that. Twenty thousand dollars brand pack. I never forget. Evro was there, Your man Pun. Dig in his pockets and throw the whole twenty grand in the crowd. No, I wanted my two thousand, and I wanted my tent. I almost jumped in the crowd after the money. I'm standing next to him. It's like, fuck, daddy, throw the money. We just spent ten thousand on furs. I'm like, yo, I try to jump back in there and grab the buddy.

00:42:15
Speaker 3: It was over.

00:42:16
Speaker 2: He was a true rockstar, Like we seen the gout the game yesterday. He was a ridy riddy piper. He was a Rick Flair. He was a rioty ridy piper, real flag.

00:42:26
Speaker 3: He was an artist artist. You know.

00:42:28
Speaker 2: He would pull up the DMX album signing in a limo and start throwing a hundred dollars bills at dmxis fans and his crowd. Like he was just different. I'm gonna go, you know, I'm always all over the play. I'm gonna say, Woo tag thirty six chambers.

00:42:44
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was at that's another world shifter. Nine dudes from shouting nine.

00:42:53
Speaker 2: I thought it was like thirty thirteen thirteen of them, right, it's nine.

00:42:58
Speaker 1: Originals, might be one hundred add on docus bro.

00:43:01
Speaker 3: I almost smacked my son one time. He did.

00:43:04
Speaker 2: He did the back. But this back in the days. He's a grown man now. But I asked him when he was like fourteen to fifteen, Yo, give me all the members of Woo Tank couldn't say they man, I was about the small.

00:43:15
Speaker 3: I was like, yo, ma, man I smacked his ship out of you. You don't know that all the members of Woo tight, No, that was very thing. He got it.

00:43:22
Speaker 2: They shifted the world off or something like, Yo, I was dumb tight.

00:43:26
Speaker 1: None members shall in different slang, adding other karate flicks they just took over the world. The Rizer production. That ship was like a breath of fresh aird to to the hip hop culture that I mean. And then they just planted mad Seeds with Math, Ghost Ray, Dirty, Jesu rizzor spect the deck. That probably nothing like that to ever be done ever again. God it is to make nine seven and a half eight stars solo, but nine stars together, the new.

00:44:11
Speaker 2: Edition of hip Hop facts that they all went on to sell millions of records solo. You know, to this day, I got people who argue about ghost Face. You know, he might be the greatest. His first album might be the greatest. I mean, you got the you got the Purple Tape, you got Ray Kwan, you got anything.

00:44:33
Speaker 3: With anything meta. Man.

00:44:34
Speaker 2: Let me tell you something. I honestly used to think that the greatest record ever made was his Sinning morn in Blue.

00:44:42
Speaker 1: I took it took me about a good fifteen years to get up off that, huh, all I need. It took me fifteen years to figure out, like, all right, you know, this might not be the greatest song ever made, like I thought it was great. Yo.

00:44:58
Speaker 2: They playing that shit anywhere that shit came on. It was like the ten Son, like this is number one? What about the first Brand Nubian debut that was knocked? The Brand Nubian ship was crazy, No, no, no, Grand Pooba was the best beat was crazy. The grand POOLA was the best. Grand Poobab was the best. Grand Pool Bos the only rapper I ever watched a whole entire club this dancing doing the real shit.

00:45:30
Speaker 3: It was that dance rap that the DJ said, brand new Grandpoop.

00:45:34
Speaker 2: I watched everybody go to the speaker stop dancing just to hear what the fuck he was gonna?

00:45:40
Speaker 1: Had that mean bars with the voice, with the cadence, and he was told to one time me tell you me, let me get your staf, let me tell you story. So you got My wife got two brothers from a father the older, and they had kids.

00:45:57
Speaker 3: And they know they move around and live well.

00:46:00
Speaker 1: One day one of the nieces came with us. They came to our crib for the weekend, had a nice time. Now it was time to bring her back on Sunday. So it was like Sunday evening we get the new row. I'm like, nah, I'll walk in it's dark, you know what I mean. I'll take in. Actually, what door it is. They bring me to the door. Hey thing done?

00:46:22
Speaker 3: Open the door. It's poolba the wng door? Yo? Pool? The kiss? What's up? Me? And she lived with them?

00:46:35
Speaker 1: I got back in the car, like the fucking tell me she lived with grand Pooba?

00:46:39
Speaker 3: What was you gonna tell me? She wife? That was his wife. He was, she was there.

00:46:43
Speaker 1: He was the guardy guse his girl was was raising.

00:46:47
Speaker 3: Yeah you know what I'm saying.

00:46:49
Speaker 1: Well, they could at least told me Pool with my answer to the door when you go there?

00:46:54
Speaker 3: I took him. I'm like this, yo, what Grandpa like? Nah? She lived here? Me? Pool? You know what's up? He's like, what's up? That ship was he? You know?

00:47:04
Speaker 2: Grand Pool Ball took a chance with me. You know my first album shout out before that and the man he showed up Jazzy j Studio eight. He kicked the verse with me in Diamond. I don't know how I meant Poolbar, but ever since we kicked it off, we was family. We was friends. He shot the vide. He can't he's in the flow Joe video. Grand Pool Bar him got.

00:47:28
Speaker 3: On especially from West shesteron poo Pool was that nigga? All right?

00:47:34
Speaker 2: Once again you're not You're not really trying to hear me, because I've been saying I said it like two three times, and you really like almost ignoring none of the best. You know how, there's some guys out there that'll argue with everybody talking about Jada Kiss Top five dead or live.

00:47:57
Speaker 3: He's somebody's top five dead all live as he should.

00:48:01
Speaker 2: He was the best brand football. Sit As my nigga brought that ship to the table. Wow, low boys, wold cowboys, you're bid sid As. He's one of my favorite rappers at the time. I remember when Pootball who was that Dante Ross? Somebody signed him over there at a lecture. It's the biggest talk in the world. You know the brand Nuggie mean sort.

00:48:25
Speaker 3: But don't be gotten to me. You're wrong. That's where it's supposed to be. Check it out now, check it out now, shut.

00:48:32
Speaker 1: Out the lord jam Yeah, okay, come on, don't go there.

00:48:43
Speaker 3: Now go there because if we go there, you much.

00:48:46
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to say, fifty second, get Richard Doe Trup.

00:48:49
Speaker 3: We turned it up real quick, jeez, Uni, we could get the drama popa nigg that probably might be arguing to be one of the debut.

00:49:01
Speaker 1: That's like up there with Snoop fifty Sugars, up there with with Doggy Style.

00:49:05
Speaker 3: He asks me for the East.

00:49:07
Speaker 1: Coast, for the world coast. They had the same kind of effect as Doggy Style.

00:49:13
Speaker 3: Man.

00:49:13
Speaker 1: That ship was everywhere when he came out, some nigga shit is semi everywhere, both of them. Ships was everywhere every way you could think of white people everywhere, every commerce, you every spring break, every.

00:49:29
Speaker 3: You open your door, your window, you saw that ship. It Richard I Try and Doggy.

00:49:34
Speaker 2: Style imagine you got beef for them shortly after that, and they playing that ship. It was beating up every DJ allegedly did not play the shot.

00:49:46
Speaker 1: The beef was beef niggas at beef for fifty was at to get Richard Try.

00:49:53
Speaker 3: Worked bad, No, no, really bad.

00:49:56
Speaker 1: Still the residue it was the other album man, Biggie Bank.

00:50:01
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was down there, cool door for a little it's not a lot on a little enough enough God. Yeah, that was a different field that we don't play, that we don't air around.

00:50:13
Speaker 2: And when you create music, fifty cent was giving you like three songs in one song, three different hit.

00:50:22
Speaker 3: It's crazy, bro.

00:50:24
Speaker 2: That album could have really been three albums, four olbls.

00:50:28
Speaker 3: The way he was doing all that. Ship Ah to unit, we don't play around. He was like, yo, it was.

00:50:34
Speaker 2: Too easy for I don't know what kind of zone he was in, but everything was too easy for me. At the bars, he had the beats. He felt like my back break was killing ship.

00:50:51
Speaker 3: It's a difference. There's a difference between street park bars. At your leisure.

00:50:57
Speaker 2: You can have a nice pop you come and when we see him in the videos, in the street part, you can jump out and have a coconut. It's different when you in jail doing bars. In the bars, just what they.

00:51:12
Speaker 3: Did to him.

00:51:13
Speaker 1: He was trying to like to bet with them, and then we ain't doing like him.

00:51:17
Speaker 2: Don't do that two times. You ain't doing bars like Jada kiss get at it.

00:51:22
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, the nigga doing well. He calling up like this ship doing all type of shit. You ain't doing all that. Don't don't stop. Please. Just because you did jail time don't mean you know how to do that.

00:51:35
Speaker 2: They don't know how you pedal the bike. I'm not don't do that. Jay Z reasonable doubt.

00:51:41
Speaker 3: Crazy, crazy, crazy shit crazy. He taught me right because I was a street dude. Man, I was a street dude, but.

00:51:53
Speaker 1: I didn't really so much really get into like the business dawn drug shit to like my second album, the first album was I Stick You Up, I Smacked You Up, you know, all that type of shit.

00:52:06
Speaker 3: But that reason of booed.

00:52:08
Speaker 1: Oubt showed me you could talk like like I could real my live, my real life music.

00:52:13
Speaker 2: I'm listening to shit and I felt like it was my life. I felt like, yo, you could rap about your life and music. So in videos, I'm wearing the Army fatigues, but I'm going to my man's party with the sky blue suit on, with the gators, with the this this, this Now, we could rap about it and put it in the video and do that.

00:52:34
Speaker 3: I felt like Reason that moved out did that for me.

00:52:38
Speaker 2: And I remember driving back and forth from New York to Miami just playing that one album.

00:52:43
Speaker 3: Back to back to back to back.

00:52:46
Speaker 2: Uh, that's another one right after Illmatic. That kind of changed my life to where it was like, all right, if you're gonna wrap this where you need to be, you need to talk more about your life.

00:53:00
Speaker 3: If you need to talk that shit, you need to die.

00:53:02
Speaker 2: That that pushed me more towards me being the Don Cardajina Like publicly, I was already the Don Carda Gina behind the scene, but publicly it said you can do this. And I don't know what the fuck Onyx first album was with them two they changed fat Joe's whole life because I just pick a up dad one shot. I was like, what the fuck up? Onyx unsung heroes. Some of the greatest music I ever heard was Onyx.

00:53:37
Speaker 1: Sticky just sent me so I steel not all lats right now twenty twenty five.

00:53:43
Speaker 3: He sent me saying, are you listening to me? Sticky? Just send me a song. That's crazy, that'sh weak crazy. Who had to pick beats? The beat is crazy? They knew how to pick beats.

00:53:57
Speaker 1: They had some mean one of them Onyx. I think it's the second one. The beats on the second Onyx.

00:54:05
Speaker 2: Album is some of the best. Trying to revisit those ships great, Yo, huh Fradjoe. Nobody writes that Joe Robs seen you and my brother I love you. I'll see you on the video on the.

00:54:23
Speaker 3: He said this, he said, you know Joe got ghostwriters this and that. Yo, You're delusional.

00:54:29
Speaker 2: Nobody could write my life, write my rhymes, nothing like that, and I love you.

00:54:32
Speaker 3: Frajoel.

00:54:34
Speaker 2: Frad Joel is a good guy. I've just picked you up on another level. But by seeing you the only person in history on the video talking about Yeah Joe, you know Joe got please brother got me fucked up. Thirty seven years of doing this ship, I do this in my slate, but Fradie produced all that. Let me tell you something. He's a genius.

00:54:56
Speaker 3: Carolina.

00:54:57
Speaker 2: Them guys, them guys different and they changed my life. So Fred Joe, when you look at my interviews about you, they always say you changed my life.

00:55:07
Speaker 3: Dude. Documentary The Game? Crazy is that?

00:55:11
Speaker 2: And how game is the first rapper that if you didn't tell everybody says that a million times.

00:55:18
Speaker 3: But if you.

00:55:18
Speaker 2: Didn't tell me he's from Compton, I would think he's from New York.

00:55:25
Speaker 3: He was the first, you know, the West Coast, they got their own sound.

00:55:29
Speaker 1: Heard he study of the first Compton nigga with a Yankish flow, all the bronx, the Yankish flow. Looking up Compton nigga with the Yukish flow.

00:55:43
Speaker 2: I repeat, still New York yunk will grill no listen.

00:55:50
Speaker 3: I agree with him what you want me to go?

00:55:55
Speaker 1: Yonkers fucking locks of some of the greatest rappers ever lived.

00:56:00
Speaker 3: I'm not disrespecting that. Who said that? Loo?

00:56:03
Speaker 2: He said that he got a Yonker Slow, Okay, I'll give you that. What I'm trying to say is Martin new for had to dream?

00:56:13
Speaker 3: Yeah dream? Hey did I love it? Crazy?

00:56:17
Speaker 1: He had new clear missiles on on both hold document to this day, first one with the debut though, is a is a smoker?

00:56:26
Speaker 3: No biking. Nobody in front the numbers.

00:56:29
Speaker 2: The numbers prove it four or five million, right, I'm gonna and nobody's saying ready to die her?

00:56:37
Speaker 3: Niggas is over here playing around like ready, you're just floating all over run. He's floating over it, stopped floating for a minute. Ready to die?

00:56:47
Speaker 1: Is He came in and twitched the old way niggas was rapping back then.

00:56:52
Speaker 4: Who be out Nigga small things? The whole entire rap game just floating debut albums. His flow is cadence to this day. Don't make sense. He died when he was like twenty six, twenty seven. He only did two years of damage and in fucking phenomenal. There's not a day not a day in my blessed life that God has given.

00:57:19
Speaker 2: Me that I do not hear Biggie Small song. What he was able to do to take rap, underground music and commercialize it changed my life, in every other rapper's life.

00:57:34
Speaker 3: He was twenty four years old when he died, a fucking baby.

00:57:37
Speaker 1: Twenty five or twenty six or twenty four, twenty four.

00:57:42
Speaker 3: Pac was twenty six, Oh it was Pac. Pac was young too, twenty six.

00:57:48
Speaker 1: But man twenty five and twenty four is crazy man to billy get in the club.

00:57:54
Speaker 3: I think that's some bullshit. But Biggie Small's to this day, his flows is Cadence. You know.

00:58:01
Speaker 2: I help get the song together with him and Bone Thugs in Harmony.

00:58:06
Speaker 3: That's another album.

00:58:08
Speaker 2: Look up the first Bone Thugs in Harmony first album, so thirty million records.

00:58:15
Speaker 3: He's nineteen ninety nine. For the love of money.

00:58:20
Speaker 1: Gotta get that money, baby, money, baby, gotta get that money.

00:58:24
Speaker 3: Baby.

00:58:25
Speaker 2: Let me tell you some boy, I miss my uncle Georgia.

00:58:31
Speaker 1: Call him George ms Buncle Georgia, Uncle Charles. Fuck with George ms Buncle George. At least yo, George, Uncle George.

00:58:55
Speaker 3: You know yo. Listen, now you go George.

00:58:59
Speaker 2: You know how you go to the hey, ain't meaning to be like, Hi, I'm Joe, I'm an alcoholic. It's like Hi, I'm fat, Joe, I'm a fuck up, I'm a bug out. I change all the words. That's why we're gonna have a problem.

00:59:11
Speaker 3: Rich. We put it back, Rich toward back to me.

00:59:15
Speaker 2: You can't even memorize my own robs, so imagine memorizing your rhymes.

00:59:20
Speaker 3: Just somebody else round.

00:59:21
Speaker 2: I fuck everybody shit up, But I got that boning Biggie done. Biggie hit me up, said Joe, I want to rock with your man's. I know that your man's be on the same label. I'm hanging out with them every day. Then you had a relationship with Bob. I had to really really convince them, and I know to this day they're happy. I convinced them, and Steve Lobell brought them to the studio. The rest is history. With that bone in Biggie Biggie boner, and nobody in New York was thinking about am in dangerous? Ain't too Minny, can't bang with us?

00:59:54
Speaker 3: Sing up?

00:59:55
Speaker 2: We know ain'tel us and Torios so co be with you know who this nobody was thinking about that flow at that time. When he did it, it was like, you know, big with somebody that's like you.

01:00:11
Speaker 3: I mean, damn man, we got a big this thing. I'm right over here, yea something saluted man. Biggie was like you in the very way of you never said a whack verse.

01:00:22
Speaker 2: So every time Biggie ku ryme on one twelve, he could rhyme on fucking.

01:00:28
Speaker 3: A girl's TLC shit whatever, it ain't not anything that we would listen to him. We would listen to the new verse.

01:00:37
Speaker 2: And be like, Damn, Biggie did it again. He was super nice. He did this and this and that. It was crazy. You know what I'm saying, b ig that ready to die. That ship to this day is one of my favorite uh you know what I mean? For the slave since for the same and the two Yo Biggie, I have my homies, total bust of shit.

01:00:57
Speaker 3: Every record.

01:00:59
Speaker 2: It wasn't just I don't know if it was a fan, but as a rapper, every verse similar to you, every verse Biggie ever spit, we would analyze it immediately be like, yo, he did this song with total you know everything. You'd be like, damn body, that ship again. It's not easy to body every single verse. You know Jady Kish, you know he's really good at that. You know what I'm saying. We be listening for every verse like, oh shit, Jenna gonna spit that ship right now? Who else you put in that in that category of every verse they have a spit, you would listen to it like, oh shit, he about to spit that ship.

01:01:49
Speaker 3: Huh, black thought, Black thought. It's superiorly nice. We all agree.

01:01:56
Speaker 2: Lauren's deput Tell me about Lauren Ill because I always mis education.

01:02:02
Speaker 3: She sided me bigger than all, Like, you got this education, you know what I'm saying.

01:02:07
Speaker 1: Liker Hill, I got Lauren got the same birthday one.

01:02:12
Speaker 3: It's big up. That's it. We wont we ail like. Education is one of the most classical albums. They gave it the best album. I got the same burden Lauryn Hill.

01:02:22
Speaker 1: Three stacks somebody Lauryn Hill and three stacks mean we will share the same birthday.

01:02:29
Speaker 3: And I say more we ail like miss.

01:02:34
Speaker 2: Edutainment of Laurence Hill, groundbreaking album phenomenal because she could sing incredible and she got the bass.

01:02:45
Speaker 3: I felt cheated as a hip hop fan.

01:02:49
Speaker 2: Then she retired so quick like, I think we would have had multiple albums of greatness. You know, I think we got wrong from Lauren Hill, you know, walking off the game because she would have had four or five classic albums.

01:03:05
Speaker 3: I can't see her making wax shit and definitely where she left the game at that time. Ah she was. She just still to this day, all these girls are great. I love them all. You know, Remy gets a little.

01:03:21
Speaker 2: Upset because she wants me to cheat and say Remy's the greatest. Can't nobody fuck with lawn Nell Lauryn Hills in the fucking lane of her home.

01:03:31
Speaker 3: Nobody. That's a fact.

01:03:33
Speaker 2: And so uh what Little Kim's first album that we're talking about? Females allcour crazy. Little Kim first album was crazy hardcore. Everybody shifted ss Amelia, that shifted.

01:03:47
Speaker 1: The way females wanted to present themselves after Little Kim, Foxy first album, I know Nan crazy.

01:03:57
Speaker 2: You see Elliott for he our can't stand the Raves. The Brat shit bout numbers than everybody funk the fat Yes, the fucking Brat was the first to crack open that gate.

01:04:12
Speaker 3: Harsh shit. She had real.

01:04:14
Speaker 2: Fans minus shit platinum, but uh, Foxy and kim Man. That's like Brandy Monica. That was a time, you know what I mean. I think you know, it's very hard for a man to really be bumping the girl's album like that, driving in your car like the whole album, but riding around like you think you playing the shit and you got Foxy.

01:04:40
Speaker 3: You got Kim On.

01:04:42
Speaker 2: Recently, I listened to that Cardi B album about ten twenty times.

01:04:48
Speaker 3: Cardi B, she got some balls of there better than dudes. It's it's really incredible the way they put that album together. Recently, Cardi B's album is phenom and the girls is eating it up. They hello, they going crazy the ship on Instagram.

01:05:05
Speaker 2: I'm not comparing the album to Lauren Hill or Foxy or Kemn's Days Get.

01:05:11
Speaker 3: I ain't saying anyone, but I'm just saying, you got that, You got that Uncle Gredy eyes. You know what I'm saying. You just you giving me the eyes like wait, wait, wait, wait, wait wait wait, you're giving me that now.

01:05:23
Speaker 2: I'm telling you an album right now, it's better than most guys in twenty twenty five.

01:05:28
Speaker 3: Cardi B got that ship right now. Let's see this, Ain't that that?

01:05:34
Speaker 2: Ain't this cracking kissing baskets bitch,