5 YEARS AGO: WWE Week In Review - Goldberg vs Reigns, John Cena vs The Fiend, WrestleMania 36 Card Takes Shape

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<v Speaker 2>Man, that's the bottom line. What Stone steps out. Hey guys,
<v Speaker 2>welcome to the WWE Podcast on this Sunday, March first,
<v Speaker 2>twoenty twenty. Boy do we have a lot to talk about.
<v Speaker 2>With WrestleMania thirty six taking shape, we now have Goldberg
<v Speaker 2>versus Roman Reigns. We have the Fiend Bray Wyatt versus
<v Speaker 2>John Cena at WrestleMania thirty six. Boy oh boy, how
<v Speaker 2>a week can change what we all thought was just
<v Speaker 2>definitive in Roman Reigns versus the Fiend. But do not fear.
<v Speaker 2>We have Mary Greater here today to discuss this with
<v Speaker 2>me and a ton more including Sasha Banks, return, Orton
<v Speaker 2>and Edge, Seth Rollins and his Monday Night Messiah Gimmick
<v Speaker 2>and tear that he's been on miss and Morrison winning
<v Speaker 2>the SmackDown Tag Team Championships. Just really we run up
<v Speaker 2>and down the card and including talking about the Saudi
<v Speaker 2>Arabia event with ww the Super Showdown Events, brock Leser
<v Speaker 2>and Ricochet. We covered a little bit of that. I
<v Speaker 2>know we already had a full review show, but we
<v Speaker 2>covered a lot of different topics and try to keep
<v Speaker 2>it as clean as we could, and I think we
<v Speaker 2>did a pretty good job of that. It's a PG
<v Speaker 2>slash PG thirteen episode, so be mindful of that. But guys,
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<v Speaker 2>With everything going on in WWE, I would like to
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<v Speaker 2>The first question is from Sharon all the way from Israel,
<v Speaker 2>so let's take a listen to what he has to say.
<v Speaker 3>Hello, So this is the Sharon from Isael. Yes, you
<v Speaker 3>have listeners to your podcast from the Holy Land. So
<v Speaker 3>first of all, you need to know about that second
<v Speaker 3>in your latest program that was released on Tuesday. Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>I think it was Tuesday. You asked what was the
<v Speaker 3>last Iron Man match?
<v Speaker 2>It was.
<v Speaker 3>Ever and you said it was the Rock versus Stive
<v Speaker 3>Ostin I think, so I just wanted to correct it
<v Speaker 3>was John Cina versus Randy Orton. I don't remember in
<v Speaker 3>which particular year, I can guess maybe ten years ago.
<v Speaker 3>It was that match that was the end of the
<v Speaker 3>SIGA between Randy Orton and Johnsina. Yes, and my question
<v Speaker 3>to you, or a topic that I wanted that you
<v Speaker 3>can discuss on it on your latest podcast, it's about
<v Speaker 3>the Elimination Chamber match, the Elimination Chamber pay per view
<v Speaker 3>that nowadays and let's still it was as well, that
<v Speaker 3>the Elimination Chamber it's for the number one contender, not
<v Speaker 3>for the championship. What it's your thoughts about that that
<v Speaker 3>the Elimination Chamber it's for the number one contender or
<v Speaker 3>not for the championship, because I think it's pretty lame.
<v Speaker 3>I mean elimination Chamber. It's just a spectacular match. It's
<v Speaker 3>just so special and when you have this kind of match,
<v Speaker 3>it should be for the championship. I just saw Elimination
<v Speaker 3>Chamber match a few days ago, the one when the
<v Speaker 3>Edge were eliminated, the first one by Jeff Fardi and
<v Speaker 3>it ended when it was the Triple Age versus the Undertaker,
<v Speaker 3>and it was so passionate to see these great superstars
<v Speaker 3>fighting each other for the championship. So I think that
<v Speaker 3>elimination Chamber should be for the championship and not for
<v Speaker 3>the number one contender. And yes, let me hear your
<v Speaker 3>thoughts about that, and thank you again for your podcast.
<v Speaker 2>By hey sure on, So thanks so much for the
<v Speaker 2>question and for your comments. So yeah, I do stand
<v Speaker 2>corrected that that was an iron Man match, a true
<v Speaker 2>iron Man match that happened between John Cena and Randy
<v Speaker 2>Orton had bragging rights in two thousand and nine. That
<v Speaker 2>was a full hour iron Man match, So that did
<v Speaker 2>slip my mind. I'm glad you reminded me of it,
<v Speaker 2>and previous to that, I believe it was the Rock
<v Speaker 2>versus the Undertaker at Judgment Day two thousands, So I
<v Speaker 2>do stand corrected. It has been though now eleven years
<v Speaker 2>since that happened, so maybe there they may be. WWE
<v Speaker 2>is in line for another iron Man match if if
<v Speaker 2>the feud dictates it. So to answer a question about
<v Speaker 2>the elimination Chamber match, I agree that it shouldn't be
<v Speaker 2>for a number one contendership. And this is this is
<v Speaker 2>why the cyclical and scheduling of WWE pay per views
<v Speaker 2>come back comes back to bite them where we have
<v Speaker 2>Helen a Cell where we have elimination Chamber just built
<v Speaker 2>into the schedule, rather than having the matches dictate when
<v Speaker 2>those stipulations should come out. It's the stippy relations dictating
<v Speaker 2>what matches are put in there, and I do not
<v Speaker 2>like that, And in this case, we're seeing it here.
<v Speaker 2>And I don't like just number one contenderships being on
<v Speaker 2>the line in the chamber, But what else are they
<v Speaker 2>going to put on the line in there? I mean,
<v Speaker 2>at this point, it's it's just it feels very forced
<v Speaker 2>this year, and it feels as if it's just, especially
<v Speaker 2>with the women's side of things, Shana Basler is head
<v Speaker 2>and shoulders above everyone else to win that, and she
<v Speaker 2>should be. So it's not that not that interesting or
<v Speaker 2>suspenseful and who's going to win. But I don't like
<v Speaker 2>the chamber being overexposed every year. I don't like Helena
<v Speaker 2>Cell being overexposed. To me. They shouldn't be pay per
<v Speaker 2>view gimmicks. They should be special matches, special stipulations that
<v Speaker 2>are brought out when the story and rivalry warrants those
<v Speaker 2>stipulations to be used. So I'm with you on that,
<v Speaker 2>and I'm not a big fan of no championship being
<v Speaker 2>contended inside of the elimination, especially such a brutal structure
<v Speaker 2>that we've seen over the years. You know how many
<v Speaker 2>casualties and injuries have happened in that match, and bruises
<v Speaker 2>and bumps and everything else. So I'm with you, all right.
<v Speaker 2>Our second question comes to us from Curtis Buck and
<v Speaker 2>he has a bit of a rant on Seamus's music.
<v Speaker 2>I did not expect to see this topic, but I
<v Speaker 2>can absolutely see it, and I will have to say
<v Speaker 2>I actually had to go back and YouTube Seamus's old
<v Speaker 2>music because it's been so long since I've heard it,
<v Speaker 2>so and I gotta say I enjoyed it. But let's
<v Speaker 2>get to your question. Curtis, your rant, and I'll follow
<v Speaker 2>up on the other side.
<v Speaker 4>One thing that is very annoying, but it's minor is
<v Speaker 4>WWE will not let Seamus use his old theme song.
<v Speaker 4>I was watching WWE's The Bar or sorry almost at
<v Speaker 4>the Bar the Bump, and Seamus said he originally wanted
<v Speaker 4>his old theme song back, so he's tried, He's tried,
<v Speaker 4>but he got denied. In my opinion, his old theme
<v Speaker 4>song defines his entire career.
<v Speaker 2>It's iconic.
<v Speaker 4>And now ww is not going through with it because
<v Speaker 4>on the bump they said that it was old and
<v Speaker 4>outdated and they forgot about it or something. That's what
<v Speaker 4>Seamus has said. They give Cizarro a new theme song
<v Speaker 4>that sounds horrible in my opinion, and they leave Seamus
<v Speaker 4>with the bar's entrance music. But Seamus has used that
<v Speaker 4>theme song before when he had the Mohawk, So if anything,
<v Speaker 4>it's staler than ever, and they could at least do
<v Speaker 4>a remake of his old theme if they says old
<v Speaker 4>and outdated. My point is that I just want to
<v Speaker 4>know what you think about Seamus possibly coming back one
<v Speaker 4>day with his old theme soign.
<v Speaker 2>All right, Curtis, thanks for your question, And yeah, that
<v Speaker 2>is interesting that the WWE feels it's too outdated. And
<v Speaker 2>I know that they like to sometimes move on and
<v Speaker 2>not look back with certain stars music. But the fact
<v Speaker 2>is Seamus, I think, is being due, is being disserviced
<v Speaker 2>and not changing his music is doing a disservice to Shamus.
<v Speaker 2>While his backstage type of promos about talking about beating
<v Speaker 2>on you know, the little guys and beating on our
<v Speaker 2>heroes and he's got bigger fish to fry or you know,
<v Speaker 2>all that's wonderful. And he's got the same haircut now
<v Speaker 2>that he had when he first debuted, and all that's wonderful.
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, he needs a new fresh coat of paint
<v Speaker 2>with music, There's no doubt about it. Music certainly isn't everything.
<v Speaker 2>But the more I listen to that music, yeah, I
<v Speaker 2>miss it Number one. It's a much more just appealing song.
<v Speaker 2>And I know that you're not trying to make the
<v Speaker 2>WWE fans like your music, especially as a heel. But
<v Speaker 2>even if you went back to the old music, I
<v Speaker 2>think it would it would be kind of like a
<v Speaker 2>case of what's old is new again, and it would
<v Speaker 2>I think, remind fans of what Seamus has done and
<v Speaker 2>how long he's been here. I think fans often forget
<v Speaker 2>just how long Seamus has been here and the things
<v Speaker 2>that he's done, and he's been champion and his rivalry
<v Speaker 2>with John Cena and everything else. I mean, this guy
<v Speaker 2>really just has not gotten the respect he deserves. And
<v Speaker 2>bringing back his old music, I think while I would
<v Speaker 2>like to do it, and if I were in charge,
<v Speaker 2>I'd at least give it a try and a trial
<v Speaker 2>run to see if it feels right on TV. I
<v Speaker 2>certainly understand your frustrations. I think that even if they
<v Speaker 2>don't give him his old music, that he needs new
<v Speaker 2>music period. Right. This is keeping the old bar music
<v Speaker 2>not good? All right, guys, And as a don't forget
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<v Speaker 2>to Mary Greater myself. We discuss everything this week in WWE,
<v Speaker 2>and I hope you enjoy it. We will be back
<v Speaker 2>on Tuesday with your raw review and of course a
<v Speaker 2>lot more. You guys know the schedule, and hope you
<v Speaker 2>enjoy it. I'll talk to you next time. It is
<v Speaker 2>Sunday night, and that means it's time for your week
<v Speaker 2>in review, and we have a co host on today
<v Speaker 2>that I am going to do my damnedest to take
<v Speaker 2>a deep breath, because this is the co host that
<v Speaker 2>you guys know, the one that was able to get
<v Speaker 2>me into an explicit episode. So maybe or maybe not,
<v Speaker 2>I can promise anything, especially with all of the things
<v Speaker 2>that have happened this past week in WWE. I'd like
<v Speaker 2>to welcome back Mary Greater. What's going on?
<v Speaker 5>Hey, what's up man? How you doing?
<v Speaker 2>I'm doing, I'm doing And uh, you know, I have
<v Speaker 2>to I have to say that you have some kind
<v Speaker 2>of Long Island medium type of type of like clairvoyance
<v Speaker 2>or something like. There is something that you know that
<v Speaker 2>the rest of us don't. And for those of you
<v Speaker 2>that are listening that may not know what I'm talking about, Mary,
<v Speaker 2>as we like to say conspiracy theory. Mary here has
<v Speaker 2>all of these has some theories that she comes out with.
<v Speaker 2>And for for example, I said that there's no way
<v Speaker 2>that WB's not gonna go with the Fiend versus Rains.
<v Speaker 2>Everyone saw it coming, and you for week after week
<v Speaker 2>after week that we talked said I don't think it's
<v Speaker 2>gonna happen. I don't think it's gonna happen. I don't
<v Speaker 2>think it's gonna happen and what do we get? So Mary,
<v Speaker 2>I don't know where you're coming up with this stuff
<v Speaker 2>where the rest of us are just you know, kind
<v Speaker 2>of in your in your presence of not being as
<v Speaker 2>knowledgeable as you. But man, uh you have you knocked
<v Speaker 2>it out in the park with a couple of your
<v Speaker 2>theories so far. So uh share do share with the
<v Speaker 2>class please?
<v Speaker 6>Well we've been talking about it for months, like even
<v Speaker 6>before we did the Royal Rumble show. You guys are like,
<v Speaker 6>I'm gonna be Rains and Fen and I just didn't
<v Speaker 6>see it.
<v Speaker 5>I don't know why I didn't see it. See everybody
<v Speaker 5>else was saying it. Just I was like, no, Colberg
<v Speaker 5>ws the title Super Showdown and I'm like why, And
<v Speaker 5>I'm right. I never said who Rains was gonna face.
<v Speaker 5>I never had a claill.
<v Speaker 6>I just didn't think he was wrestling the fiend at
<v Speaker 6>Wrestle Media and Maren's Coberg for the title of Media
<v Speaker 6>and it's hilarious.
<v Speaker 5>So I was right. I don't know I And I was.
<v Speaker 6>Right about John Cena Fene, which I which I didn't say.
<v Speaker 5>On the show.
<v Speaker 6>That was an epiphany that I had Tuesday morning when
<v Speaker 6>I sold saw an old post about the first time
<v Speaker 6>Wyatt and Sena had faced each other original Wyatt form.
<v Speaker 5>So yeah, man, I got too right. Look at me.
<v Speaker 5>I don't even know how I knew it.
<v Speaker 2>Man, I don't know. I don't know.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's not gonna more knowledgeable.
<v Speaker 6>It just I've just had a hunch, which means I
<v Speaker 6>have hope alive for my my cm punk theories.
<v Speaker 2>Which I am Look if you have some kind of
<v Speaker 2>control over that as well, not just this clairvoyance but
<v Speaker 2>also kind of power over it. I am all for
<v Speaker 2>your cmpunk theory, which is bad ass, to say the least.
<v Speaker 2>But as we have more and more legends return to
<v Speaker 2>WrestleMania and it's Undertaker, we've got Goldberg, we've got John
<v Speaker 2>Cena among others, I don't know if there's really an edge.
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if there's really room for cmpunk two
<v Speaker 2>to fit in. Given that he would, it would kind
<v Speaker 2>of be drowned out a little bit by the rest
<v Speaker 2>of the roster already, you know, from the you know,
<v Speaker 2>the ruthless Aggression era showing up.
<v Speaker 5>So yeah, I don't know if it's gonna happen for Mania.
<v Speaker 6>I haven't had any Epiphanes about the CM punk theory.
<v Speaker 5>Right now, it's still the same.
<v Speaker 6>We were talking about how Joe keeps getting injured though,
<v Speaker 6>and it's kind of putting a wrench in my plans for.
<v Speaker 5>Him to team up with them.
<v Speaker 6>But yeah, maybe maybe more SummerSlam. I just I'm on
<v Speaker 6>a role now. The John Seena thing, I don't is
<v Speaker 6>Seena gonna go heal? We might we see it.
<v Speaker 5>I don't know.
<v Speaker 6>I mean that was just me just throwing in something
<v Speaker 6>that I want. Yeah, but we'll see.
<v Speaker 2>So I gotta ask you touched on it briefly. I'm
<v Speaker 2>very interested to hear what did you What do you
<v Speaker 2>think of Goldberg being Universal Champion dethroning the Fiend after
<v Speaker 2>having a I would say, a very good run. Do
<v Speaker 2>I think the Fiend ever actually needed a belt? No,
<v Speaker 2>but the fact that you had the most original character
<v Speaker 2>in WWE in the last ten years hold the belt,
<v Speaker 2>that they're adding as much value to as they can
<v Speaker 2>and have a memorable run ending up being knocked down
<v Speaker 2>by the nineties. I guess w CW legend of Goldberg
<v Speaker 2>with four spears and a I'm not even gonna call
<v Speaker 2>it a Jack camer is just a souplex. That's how
<v Speaker 2>the Fiend ends up losing. I mean, what what is
<v Speaker 2>your reaction to that?
<v Speaker 5>Well, as you know, I didn't watch it. I don't
<v Speaker 5>watch I don't watch the Saudi shows. But it was
<v Speaker 5>one of the first things I saw on Twitter that day.
<v Speaker 5>And I think it's like one of the most ridiculous book.
<v Speaker 6>Eggs WWE is ever read, Like why would you build
<v Speaker 6>the feed up like you have? Like you were kind
<v Speaker 6>of redeeming bray Wyatt. It's it's been a good run.
<v Speaker 6>He should have never got the title to begin with.
<v Speaker 6>But here we were or here you know.
<v Speaker 5>That's what happened. So I just I a fifty four
<v Speaker 5>year old the Thrones, you know, an up and coming
<v Speaker 5>of the roster.
<v Speaker 6>Right now, he is a bonafide superstar. He's one of
<v Speaker 6>the top of the company.
<v Speaker 5>And drop the title over in Saudi Arabia to assume bucks,
<v Speaker 5>I just don't.
<v Speaker 6>It makes no sense to me. And it's all just
<v Speaker 6>so he can drop the title, you know, to Rains.
<v Speaker 6>This is exactly what they did to Punk with the rock,
<v Speaker 6>And I mean, at least the rock was a little better,
<v Speaker 6>but the rock was blown up during that match. There
<v Speaker 6>was no reason for Punk to drop the title to
<v Speaker 6>the Rock, for him to drop it to John Cena.
<v Speaker 6>John Cena should have just beat Punk. Then there was
<v Speaker 6>more of a story behind it. They add an actual feud.
<v Speaker 6>I consider them the Austin Rock feud of that time
<v Speaker 6>when there was nothing going on. I mean, I know
<v Speaker 6>that's a huge thing. It wasn't as great, but it
<v Speaker 6>was the only thing that was close to it. So
<v Speaker 6>I just I don't understand, man, there was no reason
<v Speaker 6>the theme couldn't be Chair going into Mania.
<v Speaker 5>I don't get it.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's it's puzzling, and I have really strung to understand.
<v Speaker 2>And then I had an epiphany kind of like you did,
<v Speaker 2>not that I foresee the future, but more of in
<v Speaker 2>a retrospective type of way. And my initial knee jerk
<v Speaker 2>reaction to this was what the hell like? WTF? And
<v Speaker 2>I set it out loud. I mean I was, I
<v Speaker 2>was cursing. I said, why right, I mean, you're you
<v Speaker 2>are sacrificing the future for a one off deal with
<v Speaker 2>Goldberg to just drop the belt to Rains. And then
<v Speaker 2>it dawned on me and I think what it is,
<v Speaker 2>and this is really I don't think a surprise and
<v Speaker 2>shouldn't be a surprise to many that all roads lead
<v Speaker 2>to Roman reigns. All roads tend to lead the Roman reigns.
<v Speaker 2>When in doubt, follow the road to Roman reigns and
<v Speaker 2>you will get there. And that is I think what
<v Speaker 2>WWE is doing, and what I mean by that is
<v Speaker 2>I believe that WWE is putting Roman Reigns in a position,
<v Speaker 2>the best possible position to get a positive reaction at
<v Speaker 2>WrestleMania if it had been the Fiend, and it was
<v Speaker 2>the believed and foregone, conclusioned belief that it was going
<v Speaker 2>to be Rains versus Rains versus the Fiend at WrestleMania,
<v Speaker 2>and they swerve us, which Vince likes to do. And
<v Speaker 2>that's why I was a little bit hesitant at times
<v Speaker 2>to just go with definitely. The fact is that when
<v Speaker 2>they put Goldberg against Rains at WrestleMania, I believe Rains
<v Speaker 2>has a better chance to get cheered than if it
<v Speaker 2>was the Fiend versus Roman Reigns at WrestleMania. And I
<v Speaker 2>think that they are just sacrificing what they need to
<v Speaker 2>sacrifice and move heaven and Earth to make sure that
<v Speaker 2>Roman Reigns is in a position to win the championship
<v Speaker 2>and have the fireworks go off and they have the
<v Speaker 2>wonderful celebration at the end where the crowd isn't booing
<v Speaker 2>the holy hell out of this. I still don't believe
<v Speaker 2>that's going to happen. I still think the crowd can
<v Speaker 2>completely crap all over this and it's I would love
<v Speaker 2>to know the over under of the number of moves
<v Speaker 2>in this match as well. Right like it's going to
<v Speaker 2>be Superman Spear, Superman punch, maybe a I don't even
<v Speaker 2>know if a suplex will exist, a jackhammer. Maybe if
<v Speaker 2>we can get reins up that this is gonna be
<v Speaker 2>a very short and very just kind of power heavy,
<v Speaker 2>quick finishers who can kick out of the most finishers
<v Speaker 2>type of match. So I don't know. My belief is
<v Speaker 2>just it's all about Roman Reigns and they're protecting him
<v Speaker 2>as best they can in the crowd reaction at WrestleMania,
<v Speaker 2>and they think that Goldberg is a better option than
<v Speaker 2>the Fiend.
<v Speaker 5>I mean, I think it could be, like I think
<v Speaker 5>that's part of it. But I also was thinking when
<v Speaker 5>it happened like.
<v Speaker 6>That, maybe they just didn't want Wyatt to get pinned
<v Speaker 6>by Rains kind of I don't know why you think
<v Speaker 6>Goldberg would be better, but they didn't want to, like
<v Speaker 6>put them in a match together at WrestleMania. You know,
<v Speaker 6>where one goes over on the other. Could be that too. Again,
<v Speaker 6>I just.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, Spear or spear, it's it's it could be Brock,
<v Speaker 5>you know Goldberg. When they merscle that, everybody pissed all
<v Speaker 5>over it.
<v Speaker 6>So yeah, I wish you could say I was surprised,
<v Speaker 6>but I again did not think it was going to
<v Speaker 6>be Ring's wyat.
<v Speaker 5>So I mean, in my opinion, I.
<v Speaker 2>Was right, So you were. I mean, I just, I
<v Speaker 2>just this is making me very sad, because I really
<v Speaker 2>I pride myself. I'm just I can see the inner
<v Speaker 2>workings and I feel like I know where they're going.
<v Speaker 2>And whenever I get that level of confidence, that should
<v Speaker 2>be a red flag in and of itself for me,
<v Speaker 2>because anytime that I feel that way and then I
<v Speaker 2>see a whole bunch of other people who see and
<v Speaker 2>feel that way, I get nervous. Because Vince McMahon as
<v Speaker 2>has a habit of changing things that we all can
<v Speaker 2>see coming, and he can he knows what we think
<v Speaker 2>we see coming, and what does he do? He ends
<v Speaker 2>up changing things up, to change things up, to make
<v Speaker 2>sure that it's not predictable. But sometimes predictability is fine.
<v Speaker 2>And when I've liked to see Rains versus the Fiend more, yes,
<v Speaker 2>I would have still liked to have seen that match more.
<v Speaker 2>Just because I saw it coming doesn't mean that it's
<v Speaker 2>a match I didn't want to see. So we'll get
<v Speaker 2>that match eventually, and it should be on a big stage.
<v Speaker 2>Maybe it's summerslim maybe you know, by some miracle, they
<v Speaker 2>wait all the way to next year's WrestleMania. I mean,
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, but the fact is that this match
<v Speaker 2>is going to happen, and Vince saw it and felt
<v Speaker 2>that all the fans knew that it was going to happen,
<v Speaker 2>and it was, from what I'm understanding, actually in the plans.
<v Speaker 2>And then within the last week or so, all reports
<v Speaker 2>pointed to Vince McMahon shaking up major matches and this
<v Speaker 2>and that, and that's when I said, oh crap, and
<v Speaker 2>I had a feeling something like that would have happened.
<v Speaker 5>So damn it, Mary, I mean, I'm sorry, I'm not
<v Speaker 5>gonna glute it anymore. I just.
<v Speaker 6>Moment in the Sun reported on Thursday, I reported the
<v Speaker 6>scene is stuff on Tuesday.
<v Speaker 5>Man, I'm out, I'm out scooping. It's my brain, my.
<v Speaker 2>Brain in that way you should. In Melton Meltzer's tweets,
<v Speaker 2>he's just like credit and like at Meyerbear right, like
<v Speaker 2>you know, just give.
<v Speaker 5>I said it first. I don't know if somebody might
<v Speaker 5>have said it the day before, it wasn't Meltzer.
<v Speaker 2>God. He is one of the most hated people online too.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, some people absolutely despise him, and I mean,
<v Speaker 2>I don't know the guy is. I've never talked to
<v Speaker 2>him in my life, and I have nothing bad to
<v Speaker 2>say against him. But sometimes, man, I mean, even stars
<v Speaker 2>like Baron Corbin buried him in an interview that he
<v Speaker 2>did and saying that Meltzer is a cancer and this
<v Speaker 2>and that, and you know, I don't know, I don't know.
<v Speaker 6>I don't really have an opinion of him. I just
<v Speaker 6>think he's wrong a lot. So that's basically it.
<v Speaker 5>Like I don't hate him or anything like that. He's
<v Speaker 5>just not right a lot.
<v Speaker 6>And everybody you know holds him to this different standard
<v Speaker 6>and it's just like it, Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>I agree, yeah, yeah, yeah, all right, Well so let's
<v Speaker 2>move on to another match because I think we've kind
<v Speaker 2>of buried this a little bit in terms of the
<v Speaker 2>Goldberg and and you you're you're very big indifference on
<v Speaker 2>Goldberg being champion and so moving on though, with Ricochet retaining,
<v Speaker 2>I don't think that was a surprise too. At Super
<v Speaker 2>Showdown while you didn't watch, I know that you read
<v Speaker 2>the results with Ricochet retaining getting zero absolutely zero offense
<v Speaker 2>in on brock Lesner. So I don't know if you
<v Speaker 2>read that part of it. But Ricochet got nothing, not
<v Speaker 2>a clothesline, not a punch, not a kick, zero against
<v Speaker 2>brock Lesner, who ended up just basically squashing him as
<v Speaker 2>as if he was an enhancement talent and retaining the
<v Speaker 2>ww championship. I had my review on that in my thoughts,
<v Speaker 2>So I want to get your reaction to that. I
<v Speaker 2>know you didn't see it, but yeah, what do you think.
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, Brockleser retained. I'm not surprised. But they did the
<v Speaker 6>same thing the Kofe, like he got not before Kofe, before.
<v Speaker 5>Kofe won the.
<v Speaker 6>Title, like yet how he had rust little and I
<v Speaker 6>think at a Saudi show and he got you know, squashed.
<v Speaker 5>So I'm not surprised. I don't know why they had it.
<v Speaker 6>I guess they just wanted to see broccols and kill somebody.
<v Speaker 6>I mean, it is entertaining, but it doesn't do anything.
<v Speaker 6>Ricochet is going to be fine. Nobody expected him to
<v Speaker 6>get and I ain't expect him to get anything really
<v Speaker 6>in either or maybe a kick.
<v Speaker 5>Eh.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I guess the reason I felt a little bit
<v Speaker 2>down on this is we all knew Brock was gonna win.
<v Speaker 2>That that was beyond a guarantee. That was the spoiler,
<v Speaker 2>as Hayman would say, it truly was. But the fact
<v Speaker 2>that they didn't allow him to get anything in like nothing,
<v Speaker 2>that's the problem I have And the reason I have
<v Speaker 2>it is, well, you could say able they did, but
<v Speaker 2>they did that with Kofe on the first SmackDown on
<v Speaker 2>Fox this past Septemberrock Cobra whenever they debuted, and yeah,
<v Speaker 2>that's true, and you you know, but the thing is
<v Speaker 2>Kofe is older, a lot older than Ricochet. Ricochet has
<v Speaker 2>a future and they've continued to build Ricochet over the
<v Speaker 2>past six months of becoming United States Champion, going toe
<v Speaker 2>to toe with aj Styles and then they just have
<v Speaker 2>him immediately hit a brick wall with Brock Lesner and
<v Speaker 2>not get any offense in whatsoever. Yeah, he'll be able
<v Speaker 2>to bounce back, but I think this sets him back
<v Speaker 2>a significant amount of time in the eyes of fans
<v Speaker 2>who now say, oh, he's clearly nowhere near He's not
<v Speaker 2>even in the same league as brock Lessner. And I
<v Speaker 2>understand that from a legitimate credential standpoint, but I don't know.
<v Speaker 2>I just I took issue with the fact that there
<v Speaker 2>was no offense. If you're trying to build this star,
<v Speaker 2>at least tell the story that maybe he gets a
<v Speaker 2>couple quick hits in stuns brock Lessner, who ends up
<v Speaker 2>just killing him anyway. So I don't know. Maybe I'm nitpicking,
<v Speaker 2>but I.
<v Speaker 5>Just think that that's why I don't take these shows seriously,
<v Speaker 5>because I don't consider it storyline. So again, like Ricochet
<v Speaker 5>not get aa offense and doing a squash match against
<v Speaker 5>brock I'm not surprised, Like nobody, They're just gonna expect
<v Speaker 5>people to forget it like they do everything. So yeah, yeah,
<v Speaker 5>Goldberg won the title. I care at.
<v Speaker 6>A punch in, you know, so he'll be fine. I
<v Speaker 6>don't think I think he'll be fine.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think, yeah, I think he will be too.
<v Speaker 2>It's just I think it's gonna take a little time.
<v Speaker 2>The Undertaker comes back and the Undertaker replaces Raymisterio in
<v Speaker 2>the twake. I'm never gonna get the name of this.
<v Speaker 2>The Trophy match, basly the Meaningless Mountain Trophy match where
<v Speaker 2>Undertaker comes back squashes AJ Styles in a single choke slam,
<v Speaker 2>which was very surprising to me. That signals that this
<v Speaker 2>match is not gonna happen at WrestleMania because of the
<v Speaker 2>way that Taker beat him very definitively and quickly and
<v Speaker 2>decisively with a single move. You beat AJ Styles. So
<v Speaker 2>I guess my question to you is, do you see
<v Speaker 2>this actually happening at WrestleMania? Could they even build this
<v Speaker 2>back up?
<v Speaker 6>I think I think that's the match you're going I mean, again,
<v Speaker 6>who else would Undertaker?
<v Speaker 5>Why would Undertaker attack? It?
<v Speaker 6>Was it just like a schedule match and he replaced
<v Speaker 6>Mysterio or it was like a it was like a competition, right,
<v Speaker 6>it was like an elimination.
<v Speaker 5>It was a gauntlet. I see it happening. I don't
<v Speaker 5>know who else Taker would be facing.
<v Speaker 6>I mean, it's not gonna be Ray Wyatt because we're
<v Speaker 6>gonna get why Sina, which you know, is another weird
<v Speaker 6>thing that happened on Friday, and I don't understand why
<v Speaker 6>why it didn't attack him, But whatever, I think they
<v Speaker 6>could do it. I think people want to see that.
<v Speaker 6>They want to see that more than Sting. I'm sorry
<v Speaker 6>you come fist fight me on Twitter about it. I
<v Speaker 6>don't think people want to see Sting and Undertaker at
<v Speaker 6>this point. I think it's just better to let.
<v Speaker 5>A dream and no.
<v Speaker 6>I think they could do a j I think they
<v Speaker 6>could build it back up with AJ and the character
<v Speaker 6>that he's in right now, where he like brags and
<v Speaker 6>then he throws tantrums and stuff like that, that whole
<v Speaker 6>thing he had going on with Randy Whorton for.
<v Speaker 5>A little bit. He'll come out and he'll complain about it,
<v Speaker 5>wait till Monday.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they certainly could. I just the way that it happened.
<v Speaker 2>If it wasn't WrestleMania season, you would have just said,
<v Speaker 2>oh my god, well that this isn't going anywhere. It's over.
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I don't think there's a better opponent to
<v Speaker 2>help carry the entire match than AJ Styles. I don't
<v Speaker 2>think there's somebody better to in terms of being able
<v Speaker 2>to hide the weaknesses of the Undertaker than AJ Styles
<v Speaker 2>and being able to just over sell his punches and
<v Speaker 2>kicks and barely be able to almost wrestle himself in
<v Speaker 2>this match, and AJ Styles would be the guy to
<v Speaker 2>do it. So if they end up building this back
<v Speaker 2>up and Taker comes out on Monday Night and cuts
<v Speaker 2>a promo and AJ attacks him or something like that,
<v Speaker 2>there's certainly a lot that they could do. I guess
<v Speaker 2>the way that it happened though, it was one choke
<v Speaker 2>slam beat AJ Styles. I mean, how many times have
<v Speaker 2>we seen the choke slam has been used as as
<v Speaker 2>an actual finish in years for the Undertaker, It's always
<v Speaker 2>been a tombstone, So it was almost like he beat
<v Speaker 2>him with his signature move, not his finishing move. But
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, it was a little bit. It was
<v Speaker 2>a little weird. And then I know you didn't see it,
<v Speaker 2>but the when Undertaker who won the Damn Tournament and
<v Speaker 2>won the trophy stared at the trophy and then just
<v Speaker 2>walked up the ramp, I mean, it was hilarious. It
<v Speaker 2>was almost as if he just completely brushed off this
<v Speaker 2>this prop that's supposed to have all this meaning and
<v Speaker 2>value of it's a symbol of strength and perseverance or
<v Speaker 2>whatever stuff that they try to sell you and what
<v Speaker 2>this mountain trophy needs. And Taker just completely brushed it
<v Speaker 2>off and walked up the ramp. It was great. So
<v Speaker 2>I love that part of.
<v Speaker 5>It, probably because it's beneath him.
<v Speaker 6>He just got paid a lot of money to do this,
<v Speaker 6>and I think it's the way that they were like
<v Speaker 6>last minute or they were just like, hey, this is
<v Speaker 6>how we're going to bring him back, so he doesn't
<v Speaker 6>Undertaker doesn't need some crappy trophy.
<v Speaker 5>He sees Clint Eastwood, you know, I always call him that.
<v Speaker 6>But the only other person I think that it could
<v Speaker 6>go up against Undertaker now is Alistair Black, which is
<v Speaker 6>what I've been saying for weeks. But I don't know
<v Speaker 6>how they're gonna build that story up. Maybe he comes
<v Speaker 6>out on Monday, like you said, and he cuts a
<v Speaker 6>permo and Black interrupt him, you know, telling him he
<v Speaker 6>wants to fight.
<v Speaker 5>See that happening.
<v Speaker 6>If AJ and Taker happen, I think AJ is gonna
<v Speaker 6>go out and throw a tantrum and he's gonna get
<v Speaker 6>the gong.
<v Speaker 5>You know, That's basically what's gonna happen with him. But
<v Speaker 5>who knows.
<v Speaker 6>That's the only other person I see for Undertaker this year,
<v Speaker 6>because clear if they trotted him out at Saudi Arabia,
<v Speaker 6>he's gonna be back for Mania. And that was the
<v Speaker 6>other point I wanted to say, is like you're still
<v Speaker 6>looking at this as like, you know, a regular pay
<v Speaker 6>per view. This is why I don't consider it like
<v Speaker 6>a real thing, because weird things happen, and those guys
<v Speaker 6>just want to see the old dudes win that, Like
<v Speaker 6>don't you really like you remember how there's an over
<v Speaker 6>like flow of like older wrestlers at these pay per views.
<v Speaker 6>They just want the other person to win. So that's,
<v Speaker 6>you know, the older person. So I'm not surprise that
<v Speaker 6>you beat him in one thing. Brocolizer didn't, Rick didn't
<v Speaker 6>get a punch in.
<v Speaker 2>It's yeah, these shows exist in their own little worlds,
<v Speaker 2>and I people talk about it as a glorified house
<v Speaker 2>show and then and I see the parallel there, except
<v Speaker 2>it's like a house show that's held in a WrestleMania
<v Speaker 2>sized stadium with a million dollar pyrotechnics budget. I mean, seriously,
<v Speaker 2>they had fireworks for every single entrance. It was insane
<v Speaker 2>and overdone. Yeah, they just say, hey, how much is
<v Speaker 2>it going to take to get so and so here?
<v Speaker 2>And the prince sits there with his check book and goes, okay,
<v Speaker 2>how many zeros do you need to get Goldberg here?
<v Speaker 2>How many zeros do you need so I can have
<v Speaker 2>Undertaker here? I mean it's it's when it comes to
<v Speaker 2>money that's ultimately what has happened. Why these shows are
<v Speaker 2>happening and why you're seeing legends is because we have
<v Speaker 2>a prince that is sitting in his you know, his
<v Speaker 2>high throne saying how many how much money is it
<v Speaker 2>going to take to get guys here? And w W goes, well,
<v Speaker 2>you know, let me let me sit and figure that out,
<v Speaker 2>and money talks as Teddy BIASI says, everybody's got a price.
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, if they're paying that much money for the guy,
<v Speaker 6>you think that WWE is not going to book him
<v Speaker 6>to win, like right, of course, they're going to be
<v Speaker 6>a book to win. The other people are just there
<v Speaker 6>because they have to go or I mean, not everybody
<v Speaker 6>does the tourist scene. It doesn't you know, Daniel Brian
<v Speaker 6>does it, but it is what it is. Yeah, I
<v Speaker 6>don't have much to say about it, just because you know,
<v Speaker 6>but Undertaker is going to be there, and I think
<v Speaker 6>it'll be Styles or Ulster Black.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm with you. It just has to be somebody
<v Speaker 2>super athletic, and both guys fit the Bill Undertaker needs
<v Speaker 2>to work with a guy that can work with himself,
<v Speaker 2>and those guys absolutely could do it and would have
<v Speaker 2>an infinitely better match with the Undertaker than somebody that's
<v Speaker 2>a power guy like Goldberg or you know whoever it
<v Speaker 2>may be, or Rock Lesson or whatever. So all right,
<v Speaker 2>we'll moving on to something a little more current and
<v Speaker 2>something I think you'll have a more positive opinion about,
<v Speaker 2>and that is Edge and Randy Orton that we're continuing
<v Speaker 2>to build towards a WrestleMania I think that's a pretty
<v Speaker 2>safe bet unless you're having one of your another one
<v Speaker 2>of your premonitions is that Edge and Orton are moving
<v Speaker 2>towards a WrestleMania match. And this coming Monday, we have
<v Speaker 2>Beth Phoenix who's advertised to come out and give a
<v Speaker 2>medical update on Edge. I think I might have told you,
<v Speaker 2>I might have told everybody what my theory is because
<v Speaker 2>I had another co host give me the idea. H
<v Speaker 2>what do you think this could be? From Beth Phoenix
<v Speaker 2>on Monday night and where they going.
<v Speaker 5>I mean, two things are going to happen.
<v Speaker 6>She's going to be talking and Or is going to
<v Speaker 6>come out and Edge's going to attack them from behind,
<v Speaker 6>or She's going to attack Beth Phoenix.
<v Speaker 5>And I think Beth.
<v Speaker 6>Phoenix can take it because she's always been a tough
<v Speaker 6>I mean her run in the Rumble this year, guys,
<v Speaker 6>that was the dark course of that whole entire match,
<v Speaker 6>other than Beller.
<v Speaker 5>But I think those are the two things that are happening.
<v Speaker 6>Obviously, they're having a match at WrestleMania. They're doing a
<v Speaker 6>good buil to it.
<v Speaker 5>I was a little confused by the Matt Hardy stuff,
<v Speaker 5>but it made sense. It's the same, you know.
<v Speaker 6>Group of people that were all you know around at
<v Speaker 6>the same time and traveled, so I guess having a
<v Speaker 6>Hearty there, which was very weird though at first for
<v Speaker 6>him to come out and defend Edge with the history.
<v Speaker 6>I mean he said it himself like he's like, Okay,
<v Speaker 6>Matt Hardy's coming out and defending Edge. I mean, I
<v Speaker 6>know it's squashed, but it was still a little weird.
<v Speaker 5>But it's same marriage, dude, and that carried on and
<v Speaker 5>then we got Kevin Owens, and you know, Kevin Owens
<v Speaker 5>is great and he wants to fight everybody, so it's working.
<v Speaker 5>I like the build to the match. I want to
<v Speaker 5>see what happens on Monday.
<v Speaker 6>I think Phoenix is gonna get involved physically, probably too,
<v Speaker 6>but I don't know if we're gonna see Edge or not.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't think we're gonna see Edge yet, and
<v Speaker 2>I'm okay with that. I don't need to see Edge,
<v Speaker 2>maybe even until WrestleMania itself or as soon as this week,
<v Speaker 2>but I would still let it burn and no pun
<v Speaker 2>intended to usher. I don't know why I'm thinking of
<v Speaker 2>that song. I think that what's gonna happen is you
<v Speaker 2>alluded to it that Beth Phoenix is gonna come out.
<v Speaker 2>She's gonna say that he's recovering. You know, we were
<v Speaker 2>worried at first, but he's recovering nicely. You know he
<v Speaker 2>might be you know, he might be coming back in
<v Speaker 2>a few weeks whatever. And then we're gonna see Orton
<v Speaker 2>come out and slowly walk to the ring. She'll stand there,
<v Speaker 2>He'll talk about how sorry she is for what he
<v Speaker 2>did to her, her husband, and then she'll eventually eat
<v Speaker 2>an RKO, and she'll lay there and Orton will kind
<v Speaker 2>of just slither out of the ring as the announcers,
<v Speaker 2>you know, lose their minds. I don't think we see Edge, though.
<v Speaker 2>I still think Edge is going to wait until the
<v Speaker 2>next following week or again, maybe all the way to Mania.
<v Speaker 2>Maybe he's not medically able to compete until Mania. But
<v Speaker 2>I think she eats an RKO. Really just putting insanely
<v Speaker 2>like massive amounts of heel heat on Orton, who already
<v Speaker 2>has probably the biggest amount of he'll heat in the
<v Speaker 2>entire company, who's doing the best work of his career
<v Speaker 2>in my estimation, or at least in the last ten
<v Speaker 2>years of his career, that he's just been kind of
<v Speaker 2>hiding on. SmackDown. This to me is gonna really skyrocket
<v Speaker 2>this and make you want to see Edge and want
<v Speaker 2>to see him back and just beat the holy hell
<v Speaker 2>out of Randy Orton. I can't wait till Monday because
<v Speaker 2>she's gonna eat an RKO.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, she's definitely getting attacks. It might be a little more.
<v Speaker 6>Vicious in that we know that or In has that
<v Speaker 6>streak in him going back to what he did to
<v Speaker 6>Stephanie when he was in that huge feud with Triple H.
<v Speaker 5>So don't and Beth will be okay with that. She'll
<v Speaker 5>sign off on something like that, So don't be surprised
<v Speaker 5>if it's more uncomfortable viewing. But yeah, Randy Organ right now, Man, he.
<v Speaker 6>Got some heal he he can't come out.
<v Speaker 5>He's hurting everybody. He hurt Matt Hardy.
<v Speaker 6>Hardy could should have came out in a full body
<v Speaker 6>cast at some point. But yeah, best definitely getting attached.
<v Speaker 6>She might even entice them to. You know, she doesn't
<v Speaker 6>keep her mouth shut. She could take care of herself.
<v Speaker 5>We are going to see edge when I don't know,
<v Speaker 5>but I think we're going to see insane edge, like
<v Speaker 5>going back to early two thousands, like street fighting, hardcore,
<v Speaker 5>like beating the ever living crap out of rannywhere And
<v Speaker 5>it's going to be a drag out fight.
<v Speaker 2>It can't be a straight up match at Mania. They
<v Speaker 2>gotta make this. I don't know what you would do,
<v Speaker 2>this one is worthy. Yeah, you could do a street fight,
<v Speaker 2>which I think is the most likely. If the Helena
<v Speaker 2>Cell wasn't a pay per view on its own, I
<v Speaker 2>would say this is deserving of Helen A Cell. I mean,
<v Speaker 2>I would put this inside of a cell, but I
<v Speaker 2>don't believe that that's the road they're going to go.
<v Speaker 2>It's worthy of it, but again I doubt it. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>certainly a street fight minimum a street fight, so yeah,
<v Speaker 2>count anywhere. Yeah, definitely, I'm sure. But with Mania, I
<v Speaker 2>feel they might up it. There's got to be something
<v Speaker 2>we're missing with the stipulation or the gimmick part of
<v Speaker 2>the match. But I'm looking forward to it. I think
<v Speaker 2>edges back and he looks like from the little bit
<v Speaker 2>we saw that he is what he was when he left.
<v Speaker 2>He looks like he's even in an in better shape
<v Speaker 2>than when he left. He's got some more grain in
<v Speaker 2>his beard, but it's certainly his body's in. He's been
<v Speaker 2>able to heal for what eight years or nine years,
<v Speaker 2>whatever the heck it's been. So I'm looking forward to it.
<v Speaker 2>I can't wait for it. Is the number one thing
<v Speaker 2>that I look forward to on Monday nights is what's
<v Speaker 2>Orton gonna do? Are we gonna see Edge? You know,
<v Speaker 2>who's this next victim? Just being able to love to
<v Speaker 2>hate Randy Orton. It is the number one thing right
<v Speaker 2>now for me in WWE SmackDown or Raw.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's probably the hottest storyline they got going. They
<v Speaker 5>have a lot going on right now. A lot of
<v Speaker 5>things have happened since the last time I was on
<v Speaker 5>the show. Titles have swapped, I think almost all the time.
<v Speaker 5>Is it like almost all the titles have changed hands
<v Speaker 5>except Brock.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well and the women's titles, and so like, the
<v Speaker 2>Intercon Championship is now Stroman, we got new Raw Tag
<v Speaker 2>Team champs, we got new SmackDown Tag Team Champs.
<v Speaker 6>The US title changed hands. No, but a lot of
<v Speaker 6>titles have switched. I'm just saying it's it's been kind
<v Speaker 6>of crazy. Other than orgon Edge, which I'm super stoked
<v Speaker 6>to watch too, I am super excited for Basler Becky.
<v Speaker 6>I don't even know where they're going with this. I
<v Speaker 6>don't think Basler is a vampire. I know people are
<v Speaker 6>making jokes about that. I think she's just crazy bitching
<v Speaker 6>beit the back of the neck Becky Lynch for no reason.
<v Speaker 6>And I was like, Okay, it was weird, but it
<v Speaker 6>was cool. It was different.
<v Speaker 5>So and she cut a promo on her and he
<v Speaker 5>curt she cursed at her and it did not get
<v Speaker 5>beeped out, and this is this isn't and saying that's
<v Speaker 5>going on right now, I think we're gonna see a
<v Speaker 5>different side of Becky Basler is gonna take it out
<v Speaker 5>of her.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, this is feeling different from the beginning. Like you said,
<v Speaker 2>people making jokes about it. It's the lazy joke to make,
<v Speaker 2>and it's like, okay, well hah, you know. I mean,
<v Speaker 2>I know you're a big Buffy fan. I mean, you
<v Speaker 2>can make a ton of jokes about it. It's just
<v Speaker 2>that it's not something that to me was a negative
<v Speaker 2>considering how many people were able to you know, people
<v Speaker 2>were talking about it, saying, well, all she could have
<v Speaker 2>just come out and stood there and they would have
<v Speaker 2>gone face to face. I mean, how many times does
<v Speaker 2>that happen?
<v Speaker 5>Right?
<v Speaker 2>When's the last time somebody bit somebody else on the
<v Speaker 2>back of the neck and drew blood?
<v Speaker 5>Right?
<v Speaker 2>Never, I don't think I've ever seen that, So I'm
<v Speaker 2>fine with the way they did it. Becky Lynch obviously
<v Speaker 2>was pissed, to say the least. She comes out cuts
<v Speaker 2>a promo that night and said, you know, you better
<v Speaker 2>find me before I find you. And then this past
<v Speaker 2>week with the contract signing for the Elimination Chamber, you
<v Speaker 2>had the six women out there of riot, Sarah Logan,
<v Speaker 2>Natalia Osca and am I missing somebody? Maybe not? No, no,
<v Speaker 2>I feel like I'm missing it. But the point I'm
<v Speaker 2>making is that Shana Basler is the one that didn't
<v Speaker 2>come in. She she was being waited on to come
<v Speaker 2>out and do the contract signing. She eventually did. Becky
<v Speaker 2>comes out and they have this fisted out brawl. They
<v Speaker 2>basically within three seconds they have security on them with
<v Speaker 2>the poll apart brawl. And you know, I made this point.
<v Speaker 2>I think it was the last week's show that it's
<v Speaker 2>funny how they the women have a you know, they
<v Speaker 2>throw a couple of punches at each other, and the
<v Speaker 2>securities out there, they're like white on rice. But the
<v Speaker 2>week prior, you have Randy Yorton basically ending the life
<v Speaker 2>of Matt Hardy for twenty minutes and one security guard
<v Speaker 2>was able to just make their way down. No security guard,
<v Speaker 2>no referees, no medical staff, nobody blinked an eye when
<v Speaker 2>Randy Orton was ending the life of Matt Hardy. And
<v Speaker 2>yet you have these you know, the it's just so
<v Speaker 2>funny when whatever security is is part of the storyline,
<v Speaker 2>they end up they just they're very selective, right, it's
<v Speaker 2>it's it's just funny. So I noticed that this past week.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, no, that is you're absolutely one hundred percent. The
<v Speaker 5>brandywer is like committing murder in the middle of the
<v Speaker 5>ring and nobody comes out. Nobody comes out to say
<v Speaker 5>bat hardy either. Like it was just like, yeah, it'll
<v Speaker 5>be okay.
<v Speaker 6>But yeah, going back to the women's badge, some people
<v Speaker 6>were saying that elimination chamber is kind of dumb because
<v Speaker 6>you know, you you know, Shana Basler is gonna win. Also,
<v Speaker 6>why is Sarah Logan in that match? I'm just throwing
<v Speaker 6>that out there. I can see Ruby Riot.
<v Speaker 5>Being in there because you know, she was the leader
<v Speaker 5>of the group and she kind of just came back,
<v Speaker 5>so you know, they're giving her.
<v Speaker 6>They're giving her some what's the word I'm looking for.
<v Speaker 6>I don't know, I forgot anyway, they're giving her stuff
<v Speaker 6>to work with. But I still think it's gonna be
<v Speaker 6>a good match. But you got a couple boring people
<v Speaker 6>in there that I think there could be better people
<v Speaker 6>at it other than Oscar.
<v Speaker 5>Oscar is going to be great in the match.
<v Speaker 2>I think Oscar is the clear number two in here.
<v Speaker 2>But even she doesn't have a shot, right, she just
<v Speaker 2>lost twice clean to Becky Lynch. Natalia is just the
<v Speaker 2>grizzled veteran that you know is she commands respect. And
<v Speaker 2>then you have Sarah Logan and Live Morgan and Ruby
<v Speaker 2>Riot there, who I don't even know the last time
<v Speaker 2>that Ruby Riot and or Sarah Logan have even won
<v Speaker 2>a match. Right, Live Morgan's been beating up on Lana,
<v Speaker 2>But like that, that's really not a great thing to
<v Speaker 2>put in your resume. So at least she has some
<v Speaker 2>wings in her pocket. But you look at Sarah Logan
<v Speaker 2>and Ruby Riot, seriously, when is the last time they
<v Speaker 2>even won a match? And all of a sudden they're
<v Speaker 2>getting they're getting rewarded with this opportunity to be able
<v Speaker 2>to get into the elimination chamber and compete for the
<v Speaker 2>Women's Championship. So some of this stuff sometimes you just
<v Speaker 2>go you shake your head and going what how is
<v Speaker 2>this even the thing? And then you could say, well,
<v Speaker 2>how is Shanna Beazler even in this How is she
<v Speaker 2>getting rewarded for the actions she took against Becky Lynch.
<v Speaker 2>It's the old adage that just continues to be the
<v Speaker 2>WWE culture and I'm just kind of come to terms
<v Speaker 2>with it is that you attack a champion and you
<v Speaker 2>get your title shot. That's how you get your title shot.
<v Speaker 2>Anybody listening, All you have to do is attack the
<v Speaker 2>champion behind backstage, in the ring, after the match, before
<v Speaker 2>the match at their house. It doesn't matter. You just
<v Speaker 2>attack the champion and you get your match. But I
<v Speaker 2>don't know. I guess I'm nitpicking at the story. But
<v Speaker 2>we all know, we all know the outcome. It's Shanna Bezeler.
<v Speaker 2>It has to be. There's no other option.
<v Speaker 6>I just I think that Shanda Beezler is getting the
<v Speaker 6>shot is kind of they're kind of doing what they
<v Speaker 6>did with Charlotte, Like Charlotte came out the gate and
<v Speaker 6>got all the shots.
<v Speaker 5>That Shanda Beezler is special.
<v Speaker 6>She's put the roster on notice every single time she
<v Speaker 6>has appeared on the show, even at the Rumble. I
<v Speaker 6>mean I thought she was gonna win. I would have
<v Speaker 6>put money down on it if I was a gambler.
<v Speaker 6>So that doesn't bother me. It more bothers me that,
<v Speaker 6>like you said, like Ruby Ryot has wrestled, I think
<v Speaker 6>say she's been back, and if she has, it hasn't
<v Speaker 6>been on a main roster show.
<v Speaker 5>Sarah Logan is just one of the.
<v Speaker 6>Worst characters that I've seen get called up in a
<v Speaker 6>long time.
<v Speaker 5>Like I still want to know why the three of
<v Speaker 5>them got called up so.
<v Speaker 6>Quickly, Like Ruby Riot, okay, but Live Morgan and Sarah
<v Speaker 6>Logan was always a head scratcher.
<v Speaker 5>For me, it was always a head scratcher. I did
<v Speaker 5>not get it.
<v Speaker 6>So for them to be in this match, it's it's
<v Speaker 6>weird when you could have I mean, I think Raw's
<v Speaker 6>roster is smaller than SmackDown for the women, but I
<v Speaker 6>think there's other people that could be in that match
<v Speaker 6>that it would be better, or it just shows they
<v Speaker 6>don't really have anybody.
<v Speaker 2>No, I think that that's just it. They just kind
<v Speaker 2>of threw all right, Well, Thelma's kind of involved with
<v Speaker 2>Bobby Lashley.
<v Speaker 5>And like gott to walk her in an elimination chamber.
<v Speaker 2>No, no, God please, they just took all available women
<v Speaker 2>and you get a hot a shot. That's what they did.
<v Speaker 2>They go anybody that's not really in a storyline, whether
<v Speaker 2>you've won a match or you know, you never have.
<v Speaker 5>Guess Kyrie should be in that match.
<v Speaker 2>Seriously, that's well, that's the other thing. I was gonna say,
<v Speaker 2>that's a good point, right, Where the hell is Kyrie saying?
<v Speaker 2>You're telling me, Sarah Logan. Sarah Logan ends up winning
<v Speaker 2>a spot somehow, but Kyrie saying inexplicably is not getting
<v Speaker 2>an opportunity that is inexcusable.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it just doesn't make sense.
<v Speaker 6>I mean, I guess because her and Oscar are still
<v Speaker 6>the tag team champs and their friends and while the
<v Speaker 6>Riot squad has broken up, I guess that makes four sense.
<v Speaker 5>But I I don't know.
<v Speaker 6>I really really really don't know what the booking logic
<v Speaker 6>is with I'm mostly Sarah Logan.
<v Speaker 5>She's the one who bothers me.
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, by far Live Morgan, Live Morgan and Ruby Ryan
<v Speaker 6>can be in there and it wouldn't really bother me.
<v Speaker 6>But her, it's just like, what did she come out
<v Speaker 6>and challenge Charlotte a couple of weeks ago, right, and
<v Speaker 6>Charlotte like beer ass like really bad.
<v Speaker 2>Very definitively. Sarah Logan has been a punching bag since
<v Speaker 2>day one, right, So living in the woods that your
<v Speaker 2>entire life seriously obviously did not benefit you when you
<v Speaker 2>came into professional wrestling. Because I don't I don't even
<v Speaker 2>know if she's honestly won to match. I'd have to
<v Speaker 2>look that up. I don't know. Yeah, I don't think.
<v Speaker 6>She just doesn't fit on the roster at all. Like,
<v Speaker 6>at least Live Morgan. Even in her first cardiation she
<v Speaker 6>kind of fit in. She was weird, but like she
<v Speaker 6>revamps her look and she looks more like you know,
<v Speaker 6>they're they're blondes that.
<v Speaker 5>They push out, which it's fine. She just doesn't fit.
<v Speaker 5>And I still think Live Morgan is a better wrestler
<v Speaker 5>than her. I don't. I don't know, Like it just
<v Speaker 5>says a lot of this doesn't make sense to me.
<v Speaker 2>I don't think she knows what she is, right. I
<v Speaker 2>think that's the problem is they just kind of went, well,
<v Speaker 2>nobody's really a you know this, this outdoors the woodsy
<v Speaker 2>kind of woman. Let's let's make you that. I mean,
<v Speaker 2>but the no, there's nothing for me to care about
<v Speaker 2>with Sarah Logan. She barely talks. Her gimmick is just
<v Speaker 2>head scratching. There's nothing vibrant about her. There's nothing magnetic
<v Speaker 2>about her, at least in this version of Sarah Logan.
<v Speaker 2>That doesn't mean that down the line she can't find
<v Speaker 2>something in her to present to management and say, hey,
<v Speaker 2>this sucks. What about this? Right? And maybe she is,
<v Speaker 2>maybe she's not, but this current iteration of her is
<v Speaker 2>just awful. I mean it's bad.
<v Speaker 5>It's just why she didn't fit in.
<v Speaker 6>Like that whole Riot squad thing was at best they
<v Speaker 6>needed different music.
<v Speaker 5>I mean, Ruby Riot's a star, she's awesome.
<v Speaker 6>I really really enjoy her character and stuff like that.
<v Speaker 6>But it's just like they didn't think this out. They
<v Speaker 6>just stuck these two girls brother and Live fit a
<v Speaker 6>little better. But Sarah Logan never fit in that group
<v Speaker 6>like she just did it. She wasn't like a punk
<v Speaker 6>rock girl. She was like what you said, like some
<v Speaker 6>hippie in the woods. Like it just didn't make I
<v Speaker 6>don't know ww sometimes man, but she could. She'll probably
<v Speaker 6>reinvent herself, I hope so down the line and maybe
<v Speaker 6>it'll take off. But she being in that match is
<v Speaker 6>just a head scratcher, and she seems really out of
<v Speaker 6>place on the.
<v Speaker 5>Full roster as a whole. But that's just my personal opinion. Sorry, man,
<v Speaker 5>I didn't mean to like Sarah Logan. I didn't mean
<v Speaker 5>to beat you out that bad. No, I don't get.
<v Speaker 2>But tell me like any logical person that is a
<v Speaker 2>wrestling fan, tell me how or why we're supposed to
<v Speaker 2>care about Sarah Logan. Give me a give me a
<v Speaker 2>significant win she's had in her entire career. Tell me
<v Speaker 2>what you know about her. The answer is nothing, never,
<v Speaker 2>and I don't know. I mean, we don't know a
<v Speaker 2>thing about her. She never wins and her gimmick just
<v Speaker 2>ain't cutting it. So I mean, she's got to do
<v Speaker 2>something to reinvent herself in a big way. I don't
<v Speaker 2>know what that is. You know, she's a she's a
<v Speaker 2>she's a fine wrestler mechanically. I have nothing to complain
<v Speaker 2>about her in the ring. She's just she's serviceable. I
<v Speaker 2>don't maybe she hasn't got the opportunity. I don't know.
<v Speaker 2>You know, for me to rag on her is easy,
<v Speaker 2>but for me to praise her as harder because I
<v Speaker 2>don't know anything about her and she's never won, so.
<v Speaker 6>All right, So I mean it also shows like you
<v Speaker 6>feel like the emptiness on the raw roster, like rus
<v Speaker 6>saying like Nia Jackson should be in that match and
<v Speaker 6>she's not. And you know, if Rousie was around, she
<v Speaker 6>would be in that match. So they just think they
<v Speaker 6>need to find new talent upon the rawal roster because SmackDown, uh,
<v Speaker 6>you know it has a full has a full roster.
<v Speaker 5>I guess you could say with the woman.
<v Speaker 6>But like Osca is on Smack Dowery and she the
<v Speaker 6>elimination chamber is like, isn't it a combined thing?
<v Speaker 5>It's not just a raw great? Am I wrong?
<v Speaker 2>Oh? Now you got me thinking? So you got you.
<v Speaker 2>I gotta look at the rosters. But I mean SmackDown
<v Speaker 2>and well she's been facing Becky Lynch for the Wrong
<v Speaker 2>Women's Championship, of which lost twice. And I think, oh,
<v Speaker 2>I think what happens is because you have Oscar as
<v Speaker 2>one half of the women's tag team champions, they can float.
<v Speaker 2>So maybe she just kind of floated to wrong and
<v Speaker 2>then stayed there, right, I think that's what happened.
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, But okay, anyway, moving off real quick because we're
<v Speaker 6>talking to women. I gotta ask you Bella Twins, oh God, Hall.
<v Speaker 5>Thames twenty twenty.
<v Speaker 6>Please before I go on my little shebill, let me
<v Speaker 6>know how you feel about this.
<v Speaker 2>This is okay. I love how they try to frame
<v Speaker 2>the Bellas as the trail blazers for the women's revolution.
<v Speaker 2>Hashtag give Divas a Chance. The fact of the matter
<v Speaker 2>is that the hashtag give Divas a Chance was in
<v Speaker 2>spite of the Bellas, because they were part of the problem.
<v Speaker 2>The fans weren't looking at the Bellas going see, we
<v Speaker 2>need more of this. This is what we want the
<v Speaker 2>women to be presented as. No, you have Nikki Bella
<v Speaker 2>coming out during her entrance every time doing a stripper
<v Speaker 2>pole dance without the pole you have. I mean, they're
<v Speaker 2>wearing skimpy outfits, push up bras. They're not the Women's
<v Speaker 2>Revolution pioneers. As if they stood at the edge of
<v Speaker 2>the ship and they're holding the flag and the Women's Revolution,
<v Speaker 2>that's just not true. It's a lie. The Women's Revolution
<v Speaker 2>was done in spite of the Bellas. Now, with all
<v Speaker 2>of that being said, that they have some decent matches
<v Speaker 2>and some memorable moments, Yeah, they had their time in
<v Speaker 2>the sun and there. I think the reason that they're
<v Speaker 2>being selected for this because the WWE Hall of Fame
<v Speaker 2>is extremely selective. It's really dependent on when WWE says, oh,
<v Speaker 2>you're in our good graces, you don't have any bad
<v Speaker 2>media right now, and you're pretty darn memorable. Let's stick
<v Speaker 2>it in. There's no certain criteria. It's just kind of
<v Speaker 2>can choose by management. So I think they're put in
<v Speaker 2>number one. They're twins that are hot. I mean, like
<v Speaker 2>I know this. They are good looking, very good looking
<v Speaker 2>twins of the that I've we've ever seen in WWE
<v Speaker 2>that I don't believe there's ever been twins in WWE
<v Speaker 2>and the women's side, and they were decent wrestlers, and
<v Speaker 2>they were an slight improvement, slight improvement over the bron
<v Speaker 2>panties matches terribleness that was the Divas Championship era and
<v Speaker 2>that went by the wayside. I just don't believe that
<v Speaker 2>when I put them in the Hall of Fame, probably
<v Speaker 2>not based on in ring credentials and memorable matches. To me,
<v Speaker 2>that's what it is and what you've done and meant
<v Speaker 2>for that division, men or women. So no, I wouldn't
<v Speaker 2>put them in, but I wouldn't say they're a disaster.
<v Speaker 2>But that don't think they're deserving of the Hall of Fame.
<v Speaker 5>You all right, decent wrestlers, I'll give you that.
<v Speaker 6>Te Nikki Brebella should have never have ever entered a
<v Speaker 6>wrestling ring.
<v Speaker 5>Ever, I don't.
<v Speaker 6>Care if she hears that she's a pretty face. They're gorgeous,
<v Speaker 6>they're valets. Nikki Bella improved immensely and she got hurt
<v Speaker 6>and I feel bad for that. But Brie Bella, man,
<v Speaker 6>she came back and she was worse than she was before.
<v Speaker 6>She was hurting people. Listen, significant moments I can't remember.
<v Speaker 6>Somebody on Twitter tweeted at me said the only significant
<v Speaker 6>moment they had was when aj Lee dropped the pipe
<v Speaker 6>bomb on them. I mean, that's the most memorable thing
<v Speaker 6>I can remember about the Belichwins. Decent matches nope, Decent
<v Speaker 6>promos nope. Because they like the This is another question,
<v Speaker 6>where the heck are the Iconics like the iconics or
<v Speaker 6>what the Belichwins wish they could have been? Like, they're
<v Speaker 6>just like superior, even if they're not the best wrestlers
<v Speaker 6>in the world, they're so light years ahead of them.
<v Speaker 5>And just on the mic, even though.
<v Speaker 6>Those two girls are not sisters, you would think they
<v Speaker 6>were sisters. They did that is what the Bella Twins
<v Speaker 6>should have been, and they couldn't because they never had
<v Speaker 6>the chops to do it. Now, on top of this,
<v Speaker 6>I'm just gonna say this and I want like your
<v Speaker 6>gut reaction.
<v Speaker 5>The Bella twins are.
<v Speaker 6>In the ww Hall of Fame before Daniel Bryan, Like,
<v Speaker 6>come on, man like, and how old are they and
<v Speaker 6>like they've been retired for less than a year? Like,
<v Speaker 6>and there are so many other wrestlers, you know, the
<v Speaker 6>Whys and aj Lee in the Hall of Fame. Right,
<v Speaker 6>she's been retired for like five years now. She started
<v Speaker 6>that whole movement.
<v Speaker 5>She was the only person that was in the division
<v Speaker 5>at the time that didn't look like that. So there's that.
<v Speaker 5>Do I think that if this was ten years from.
<v Speaker 6>Now and they did it when I have that big
<v Speaker 6>of a problem with it, probably not.
<v Speaker 5>I knew they were.
<v Speaker 6>Gonna end up in because they push him that bad,
<v Speaker 6>and they married into that company, and they have done
<v Speaker 6>a lot of publicity for the WWE. I will give
<v Speaker 6>him that, But ten years down the road, okay, I'm
<v Speaker 6>still not gonna like it, but I'm not gonna argue
<v Speaker 6>it as much as this is just complete horsecrap, like
<v Speaker 6>like Rebella has the worst run of her life in
<v Speaker 6>the last two years, destroys Daniel O'Brien's yes character is
<v Speaker 6>so much that they turn the heel to separate them
<v Speaker 6>before they turn them back into his character because she
<v Speaker 6>still his moves and she's going in the Hall of
<v Speaker 6>Fame before her and him, Like, and Daniel Brian was
<v Speaker 6>retired for four years. Why didn't Daniel Brian get inducted
<v Speaker 6>into the Hall of Fame?
<v Speaker 2>Right, so I mean Daniel Daniel Brian. Yes, the fact
<v Speaker 2>that they're not he's inducted and they are on paper,
<v Speaker 2>You're like, well, what the hell? But you could say, oh,
<v Speaker 2>he's an active wrestler. They don't induct active wrestlers. That's true,
<v Speaker 2>but like you said, he was. He was retired for years,
<v Speaker 2>and maybe they didn't do it, but because they figured
<v Speaker 2>that if there's a chance he could come back, there
<v Speaker 2>would be more of a special moment. He's still on TVs.
<v Speaker 2>The general manager of SmackDown, let's wait, And so maybe
<v Speaker 2>there are reasons why they waited. And obviously it was
<v Speaker 2>a good call because he came back and he's continuing
<v Speaker 2>to wrestle and have great matches and we still don't
<v Speaker 2>know what the hell he's doing as he's completely lost
<v Speaker 2>in the sauce direction lists right now on SmackDown, and
<v Speaker 2>we we're only five weeks away from WrestleMania and you're
<v Speaker 2>once made a ventor that is still getting one of
<v Speaker 2>the biggest babyface reactions on SmackDown and in the whole
<v Speaker 2>company is continuing to just kind of wallow in the
<v Speaker 2>wind and going, we don't know what we're doing for
<v Speaker 2>him yet, and it's scary right now for Daniel Brian.
<v Speaker 2>I have some ideas and things I've heard, but I
<v Speaker 2>don't know for sure, and it's kind of really striking.
<v Speaker 2>There's no solid direction for Daniel Freak and Brian right now.
<v Speaker 2>But to the Bella's point to kind of finish that up, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>de Bella is particularly bree The only thing I can remember,
<v Speaker 2>if you're going to point to a moment beyond John
<v Speaker 2>Cena's proposal to Nicki Bella, which was beyond predictable and
<v Speaker 2>obviously ended in a complete disaster for them, is Briebella
<v Speaker 2>versus Stephanie McMahon. I remember her standing up to to
<v Speaker 2>Stephanie McMahon, and well, it wasn't a great match. It
<v Speaker 2>was memorable. She had some decent promo, some okay promos
<v Speaker 2>against Stephanie, but ultimately, yeah, she is when it comes
<v Speaker 2>to in ring skill, Uh, Nicky has the upper hand
<v Speaker 2>on that for sure.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I just.
<v Speaker 6>Everybody knows I hate them, so I never really have
<v Speaker 6>anything nice to say about them. But it's just like
<v Speaker 6>it's another publicity stunt, like they're pregnant at the same
<v Speaker 6>time the John Seed the stuff they never were gonna
<v Speaker 6>get married, that was completely forced by WWE TV. You know,
<v Speaker 6>he's engaged, yew, she's engaged. She's pregnant. Like I just God,
<v Speaker 6>I like, I hate watch Total Bellas and Total Divas
<v Speaker 6>just to hate on them because they just they just
<v Speaker 6>annoy the crap out of me. And I don't think
<v Speaker 6>there are any way she Reform deserving to be in
<v Speaker 6>the Hall of Fame.
<v Speaker 5>But it is what it is, man.
<v Speaker 6>I just think it's they could have had a better
<v Speaker 6>woman inductee this year, you know, absolutely one hundred percent.
<v Speaker 6>It's not like they don't have people that they could
<v Speaker 6>choose from.
<v Speaker 5>They do.
<v Speaker 2>They do. Uh Yeah, I'm over the Bellis. Every time
<v Speaker 2>they come on it's like some big and think and
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, no, this does nothing for me. Yeah. I mean,
<v Speaker 2>I'm a straight male and I like seeing pretty women.
<v Speaker 2>I don't care about the Bellas anymore. I don't again,
<v Speaker 2>I don't I don't watch wrestling. I'm not fourteen fifteen
<v Speaker 2>years old anymore looking at Sable wearing pasties on her
<v Speaker 2>boobs and going, oh my god, I don't care. I
<v Speaker 2>don't watch wrestling for that stuff. And the Bella is
<v Speaker 2>to me, just bring back those old, those old type
<v Speaker 2>of like the old type of presentation that ww we
<v Speaker 2>had for women in the Divas era and obviously be
<v Speaker 2>before that in the pillow Fight era as well. So
<v Speaker 2>I'm over the divas. I'm ready to just kind of
<v Speaker 2>put them behind me. But don't worry. We'll have the
<v Speaker 2>Hall of Fame speed to all sit and soak in. So, yeah, Army,
<v Speaker 2>we love you. I just can't. I can't anyway.
<v Speaker 5>You're so greeting.
<v Speaker 6>The only positive ed all this is like I said,
<v Speaker 6>if aj Lee was ever come back, she'll come back
<v Speaker 6>down because the me and girls are out of the
<v Speaker 6>locker room.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh that's right, that's right. Aj Lee is I
<v Speaker 2>mean when you look back, she truly was one of
<v Speaker 2>the first women that was not over sexualized. Had amazed Like,
<v Speaker 2>I loved how believable she was in her promos. Her
<v Speaker 2>crazy gimmick was extremely believable. I didn't read her book
<v Speaker 2>crazy as my superpower. But I really want to because
<v Speaker 2>I've heard good things.
<v Speaker 5>About it, okay, and it's really really good.
<v Speaker 2>I need to just everything about her. Yes, she was
<v Speaker 2>extremely good looking, but that was something that was kind
<v Speaker 2>of a side effect. I mean, her her personality, her
<v Speaker 2>the gravity she had on air, she was good in
<v Speaker 2>the ring, her her gimmick that didn't feel like a
<v Speaker 2>gimmick of being crazy, and the whole thing she did
<v Speaker 2>with Daniel, Brian and Kane, And like I loved it.
<v Speaker 2>If aj Lee ever came back to the ring, I'd
<v Speaker 2>be almost as excited as to see them Punk came back.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it would be amazing.
<v Speaker 6>So I mean I think that it's oh to her too.
<v Speaker 6>I think there were multiple factors while she had to retire.
<v Speaker 6>I mean she retired her like what twenty six, twenty seven.
<v Speaker 6>She's baby, you know, and she loves wrestling, but she
<v Speaker 6>was married to you know, enemy number one, and like
<v Speaker 6>I said, she wasn't really liked backstage by you know,
<v Speaker 6>the the head girls in the locker room and the
<v Speaker 6>Belichwins and you.
<v Speaker 5>Know, the Bellots. Could have had a really good thing
<v Speaker 5>going with them.
<v Speaker 6>And I hope they look back and realize them squashing
<v Speaker 6>that because they didn't like what she said. There might
<v Speaker 6>have been truth in it, but they got they could
<v Speaker 6>have had a really good program with her, and instead
<v Speaker 6>they just you know, threw their weight around and squashed
<v Speaker 6>it and that went nowhere.
<v Speaker 5>And it was a memorable, memorable promo by a J
<v Speaker 5>Lay And she'sbably one of the best females they've ever
<v Speaker 5>had on the mic. But there's a lot to be said.
<v Speaker 6>I don't think we ever really saw the full potential
<v Speaker 6>of her as a wrestler because they were doing two
<v Speaker 6>minute matches and she was the longest rating Davis champion
<v Speaker 6>until they put it on.
<v Speaker 5>Nikki Bello because you know, they had to do that,
<v Speaker 5>you know.
<v Speaker 6>And she she beat everyone in a Battle Royal at Wrestlingia.
<v Speaker 6>Now you look at it and you gas because they
<v Speaker 6>had nothing for her, no opponent, But that just proves
<v Speaker 6>they had no opponent. And now the division is exactly
<v Speaker 6>where she should have been. And I think there's a
<v Speaker 6>lot for her to still do and a lot of
<v Speaker 6>things have happened that she can do that she wasn't
<v Speaker 6>able to do when she was in the division. And
<v Speaker 6>you know, the woman's title that she thought should have
<v Speaker 6>been brought back before, it came back, is back now,
<v Speaker 6>and now there's two. So I just I really hope
<v Speaker 6>that I want punk back. I really hope in some
<v Speaker 6>capacity maybe she can come back for a little bit
<v Speaker 6>and have equal people with her in the ring, like
<v Speaker 6>Selena Vegan her going out on the mic and Sipliss
<v Speaker 6>and Sasha Banks when they let Sasha go, and you know,
<v Speaker 6>Biancabella when she comes up, Like it could be really
<v Speaker 6>really good stuff.
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, that will my god be aj Lee and
<v Speaker 2>Zelena Vega. Holy, yeah, that would be awesome. A lot
<v Speaker 2>of parallels there between the two. They've got the same
<v Speaker 2>type of quality of making you pay attention. They're very
<v Speaker 2>well spoken. Oh yeah, that would be awesome. Continued on
<v Speaker 2>the women's division, I mean you have Charlotte and Ria
<v Speaker 2>Ripley that is confirmed for WrestleMania, and then you have
<v Speaker 2>Bailey out there. Well, she doesn't have a defined opponent.
<v Speaker 2>It looks like we're probably going to get some type
<v Speaker 2>of multi woman match at WrestleMania, unless they go with
<v Speaker 2>a returning Sasha Banks against Bailey. What do you think
<v Speaker 2>about the possibilities of where the SmackDown SmackDown Wom's championship
<v Speaker 2>could be And really, what do you think about Charlotte
<v Speaker 2>and Ria Ripley.
<v Speaker 5>I think Charlotte Ripley is gonna be awesome. Two massive girls.
<v Speaker 6>In the ring, like just and they're strong and Charlotte
<v Speaker 6>doesn't hold back sometimes. And I love Riea Ripley. I
<v Speaker 6>think she's amazing and that matches. It could be a
<v Speaker 6>show stealer at Mania. As far as Bailey goes, I
<v Speaker 6>don't really know where they're going. It looks like they
<v Speaker 6>were going with Naomi, which I think is fair. I
<v Speaker 6>think Naomi should be back in the title picture, and
<v Speaker 6>I think she should win it just for.
<v Speaker 5>A little bit. I don't know how long she's gonna
<v Speaker 5>hold it, but it makes sense. I don't know. Do
<v Speaker 5>I see Sasha turning on her right now? No?
<v Speaker 6>I mean she came out in Defiance and like totally
<v Speaker 6>screwed everybody up for Bailey. Yeah, So I don't know,
<v Speaker 6>but I think eventually we're gonna get there. I eventually
<v Speaker 6>think it's gonna be Sasha versus Bailey. I don't I
<v Speaker 6>hope they don't turn Sasha face. I hope they just
<v Speaker 6>have her beat the crap out of Bailey and like
<v Speaker 6>you know, I don't know if that turns Bailey, but
<v Speaker 6>both of our characters. I really like Bailly what she's
<v Speaker 6>doing right now. She seems to figure it out what
<v Speaker 6>her character is. She's still kind of bland, but it's working.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it is. And and I agree with you. I'm
<v Speaker 2>Charlotte and Rhea Ripley, and that is a match that
<v Speaker 2>is straight up. It doesn't seem there's no there's no
<v Speaker 2>flash to this, there's no bells and whistles to this,
<v Speaker 2>which I'm totally fine with because you have you have
<v Speaker 2>obviously Becky Lynch and Shana Basler with all of the
<v Speaker 2>craziness going on there. That one is it's taking a
<v Speaker 2>much different road than Charlotte and Rhea Ripley, which is
<v Speaker 2>a very just straight up you know, I'm the I'm
<v Speaker 2>the queen here. I made this division versus Rhea Ripley,
<v Speaker 2>who's the established NXT women's champion, and I think that that's
<v Speaker 2>that's going to be a match. Most people, I think
<v Speaker 2>are looking towards to challenge Shana Basler and Becky Lynch
<v Speaker 2>for the best women's match of the night. I really
<v Speaker 2>think that you could make a case for both and man,
<v Speaker 2>this from the women's perspective, when you look at the
<v Speaker 2>both the NXT and Raw Women's Championship, that has the
<v Speaker 2>potential to really knock the roof off the building. Well,
<v Speaker 2>there is no roof in the stadium, but you get
<v Speaker 2>my metaphor. This has to be one of the strongest
<v Speaker 2>women's lineups, and we don't know the SmackDown one yet.
<v Speaker 2>It could be Naomi versus Bailey. It could be maybe
<v Speaker 2>I don't want it, but another turn from Sasha back
<v Speaker 2>to Babyface and versus Becky or versus Bailey, or you
<v Speaker 2>could have some kind of multi woman four way, six way,
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, eight way match elimination match for the
<v Speaker 2>SmackDown Women's Championship. But the women's division is really, I
<v Speaker 2>think the best it possibly could be right now, and
<v Speaker 2>that's saying a lot considering that Naya Jackson isn't even
<v Speaker 2>there unless she makes a return in the next few
<v Speaker 2>weeks or at Mania, and then Ronda Rousey. Basically your
<v Speaker 2>centerpiece of the women's division from last year is not
<v Speaker 2>even not a whisper gone, and we're still talking about
<v Speaker 2>how we have two really really good matches for the
<v Speaker 2>women's division at WrestleMania.
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, well, ROSSI there was like a hole I think felt.
<v Speaker 6>But even though we've been talking for weeks about how
<v Speaker 6>the Becky needs to drop the title, Becky's been.
<v Speaker 5>The face of the division. Man.
<v Speaker 6>She's been carrying it since her stone cold moment she
<v Speaker 6>had when her nose got busted open. I mean she
<v Speaker 6>has been the face of that division more so than Charlotte.
<v Speaker 6>Everybody recognizes her. She's on everything, She's been doing a
<v Speaker 6>lot of media. Do I think it's time for her
<v Speaker 6>reign to end. Yeah, And I don't know if Sane
<v Speaker 6>is gonna win it WrestleMania. She does, that's gonna be
<v Speaker 6>kind of crazy, but it would set a good tone
<v Speaker 6>for the year to come, like to have Basler in
<v Speaker 6>that position, and maybe then you see a ROUSI return.
<v Speaker 5>Conspiracy theory.
<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to discredit you so well is that
<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to discredit anything you say anymore.
<v Speaker 6>So, Yeah, I don't know what's gonna go on with
<v Speaker 6>the Bailey match again. I think if Sasha goes after
<v Speaker 6>the title, I don't think she's turning face. I think
<v Speaker 6>they're going to keep her how she is right now.
<v Speaker 6>But I think that dynamic that we've been talking about
<v Speaker 6>has to switch. So where you know, Bailey is supposed
<v Speaker 6>to be the champ and Sasha is supposed to be
<v Speaker 6>the sidekick, it's got to reverse. Sasha has got to
<v Speaker 6>be the champ and Bailey has got to be the
<v Speaker 6>sidekick because even though she has been dominant and she's
<v Speaker 6>been proven everybody you know, role, she's been cheating and.
<v Speaker 5>Stuff like that. But that's what feels do.
<v Speaker 6>She still doesn't come off like the champ, Like it's
<v Speaker 6>just and then you have Sasha return, and Sasha immediately
<v Speaker 6>takes all the spotlight off of Bailey.
<v Speaker 5>She's been doing good without her though the last couple
<v Speaker 5>of weeks.
<v Speaker 6>I mean, it's not like she's been like floundering, but
<v Speaker 6>Susasha walked out and nobody cared about Bailey. They cared
<v Speaker 6>about Sasha. So the title needs to go to her eventually.
<v Speaker 6>But I don't see them touring on each other. I
<v Speaker 6>feel like Sasha either turns on her and they spilled up,
<v Speaker 6>but Bailey still steal stays heel.
<v Speaker 5>Or somehow it becomes a friendly competition thing could happen.
<v Speaker 2>It could, and that's a that's a good point to
<v Speaker 2>bring up though, that whenever Sasha comes back it immediately,
<v Speaker 2>just just the way that we think and the way
<v Speaker 2>that that Sasha Banks has been positioned over the last
<v Speaker 2>few years is that Sasha Banks is a bigger star
<v Speaker 2>than Bailey, even though Bailey has the belt, And that
<v Speaker 2>immediately just took Bailey down a peg, who I thought
<v Speaker 2>was doing really good work on the MIC, finally gaining
<v Speaker 2>some traction as a heel and making the turn worth
<v Speaker 2>it that happened months ago. And Corey Graves for all
<v Speaker 2>of his faults and all of his corporate, corporate propaganda
<v Speaker 2>that he spews out of his mouth, you know, every
<v Speaker 2>five minutes on the commentary desk, he made a good
<v Speaker 2>point that Bailey over the last few weeks has indeed
<v Speaker 2>been gaining some momentum, as they like to say, over
<v Speaker 2>the last few weeks, in Sasha's absence, and he said
<v Speaker 2>that it has been because Sasha has been absent that
<v Speaker 2>Bailey has gotten a lot more traction, which is damn true.
<v Speaker 2>And as much as I love Sasha Banks, I love
<v Speaker 2>her heel character, and I think there's way more to
<v Speaker 2>investigate there. The fact that you have these two together
<v Speaker 2>is what's hurting Bailey. They need to separate. I don't care.
<v Speaker 2>If they both stay healed, that's fine. I love them
<v Speaker 2>both as heel, but they need to just parallel each other,
<v Speaker 2>not hold hands with one another. They are, especially Bailey here,
<v Speaker 2>who's the victim, is being dragged down because Sasha Banks
<v Speaker 2>is viewed as a bigger star. So yeah, take Bailey
<v Speaker 2>and if you want to keep her champion through Mania.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, maybe that's fine, but I just have a
<v Speaker 2>sneaking suspicion that they're gonna just do something to cause
<v Speaker 2>tension between Sasha and Bailey hinting out yet another turn
<v Speaker 2>for Sasha Banks back to face. I just have that
<v Speaker 2>feeling I wouldn't do it. I certainly wouldn't do it
<v Speaker 2>after her turn or her return this past fall and
<v Speaker 2>then back to Babyface again. I don't know. I'm ready
<v Speaker 2>for these two to just stay away. Both be heels,
<v Speaker 2>but just stay away from each other. I mean, please.
<v Speaker 6>I mean, I don't have a problem if they keep
<v Speaker 6>them together, but like I said, it has to be reversed.
<v Speaker 6>Sasha's got to be the chant, you know, because it's
<v Speaker 6>even like Billy's almost her hype man, like on the
<v Speaker 6>mic and stuff like with the way she introduces her
<v Speaker 6>and stuff like that and talks about her. It's just
<v Speaker 6>got to be reversed. I don't think they're separating them
<v Speaker 6>anytime soon. I just feel like there's gonna something's gonna
<v Speaker 6>happen where they are going to go after each other.
<v Speaker 5>But I don't know if it's gonna be a.
<v Speaker 2>Media Yeah, I don't know. Maybe. I don't know. We'll
<v Speaker 2>see the SmackDown. Women's side is extremely blurry right now.
<v Speaker 2>I don't know where they're going. I think we'll get
<v Speaker 2>a much clearer picture in the next few weeks here,
<v Speaker 2>so a few more things and then we'll So what
<v Speaker 2>do you think so far of Monday Night Messiah? We
<v Speaker 2>have Murphy no longer buddy because they just kill first names.
<v Speaker 2>We have aop obviously, and Seth Rowlins, who's growing his
<v Speaker 2>hair and his beard out to look like Jesus Christ
<v Speaker 2>and he's carrying or wearing like but he's also wearing
<v Speaker 2>a jacket that's like bane from the Dark Knight Rises movie.
<v Speaker 2>I personally, I love what Seth is doing. The way
<v Speaker 2>he shakes hands with fans, the way he speaks, his
<v Speaker 2>religious undertones. All of this stuff I think is still
<v Speaker 2>really good. I think we would view it as even
<v Speaker 2>better and maybe it would get more time if the
<v Speaker 2>edge return didn't happen. And it's not a slight to anybody.
<v Speaker 2>It's just the fact that Edge returning supersedes everything going
<v Speaker 2>on as it should and just inadvertently halted the momentum
<v Speaker 2>a little bit of the storyline with Seth Rollins and
<v Speaker 2>his group. But I love what they've been doing so far.
<v Speaker 2>I still love his promos, I love his attire. I
<v Speaker 2>still believe that there's a major championship in his future
<v Speaker 2>in twenty twenty. I don't need to see this group
<v Speaker 2>breakup at all. People have been talking about it. Well,
<v Speaker 2>shouldn't ap be mad that Murphy and Rowlins are tag
<v Speaker 2>champions and they're not when they're the real tag team? Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>they probably should be, but we're not going to explore
<v Speaker 2>that yet. That's just something you keep in your back
<v Speaker 2>pocket for whenever you do decide to split them up
<v Speaker 2>down the line, way down the line, that you bring
<v Speaker 2>that back up. So An, I'd give this a very
<v Speaker 2>good report card with this group. I think we have
<v Speaker 2>a lot to see from them in twenty twenty. How
<v Speaker 2>do you view Seth Rowlins in his group so far?
<v Speaker 2>His Monday Night Massiah.
<v Speaker 6>I think it's interesting that they put the tag titles
<v Speaker 6>on Murphy and Seth, but that kind of alludes to
<v Speaker 6>what I've been saying about Buddy Murphy. I'm gonna call
<v Speaker 6>him Buddy Murphy because whatever with the name saying, he'll
<v Speaker 6>be Buddy in like three months.
<v Speaker 5>Just buddy anyway.
<v Speaker 6>I think that, like I've been saying, he's kinda he
<v Speaker 6>kind of burst on the scene and he and he
<v Speaker 6>didn't like get beat up or buried in a way
<v Speaker 6>that you know, people forgot. He had good matches when
<v Speaker 6>he first came up. He was losing, but they were
<v Speaker 6>excellent matches. And I think they think he's a star,
<v Speaker 6>and they put the title on him with you know,
<v Speaker 6>the biggest star, one of the biggest stars in the
<v Speaker 6>company Seths. Look, I mean I've seen it before. Seampunk
<v Speaker 6>did it about ten years ago. Call in the Straight
<v Speaker 6>Edge of Society. Grew out his hair and beard looked
<v Speaker 6>like Jesus. He was a little meaner.
<v Speaker 5>He wasn't, you know, shaking everybody's hands. But it's the
<v Speaker 5>same thing.
<v Speaker 6>He's got Dean Ambrose's old jacket that Dean.
<v Speaker 5>Was wearing before the night.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, it is.
<v Speaker 5>The two going on except Dean was you know, the
<v Speaker 5>Moula tick for a B.
<v Speaker 6>So this this, uh this, I think this steable is
<v Speaker 6>gonna be together because they eventually think that if the
<v Speaker 6>Undisputed error ever gets that's gonna be their first feud.
<v Speaker 5>But I don't know when that's gonna happen.
<v Speaker 6>I also think NXT is now becoming own energy, and
<v Speaker 6>I think a lot of people that we thought were
<v Speaker 6>gonna get called up are not getting called up anymore
<v Speaker 6>because Triple H won't let bad things happen to people anymore.
<v Speaker 5>So, yeah, the stables going good.
<v Speaker 6>Could there be tension inside maybe, but I don't think
<v Speaker 6>so if we're viewing you know, Seth as Messiah slash
<v Speaker 6>cult like leader, which to kind of have bray White too,
<v Speaker 6>But you know, bray White just lost the title, so
<v Speaker 6>I don't know how much longer his steam is gonna
<v Speaker 6>be going.
<v Speaker 5>But it's good.
<v Speaker 6>I have no complaints about the storyline. I like how
<v Speaker 6>it's still going with Kevin Owens. I wish Tom with
<v Speaker 6>Joe would stop getting hurt because it seems like every
<v Speaker 6>week he's got something, he goes out of the ring,
<v Speaker 6>takes bad dime concussion.
<v Speaker 5>You're telling me he failed the wellness test. I didn't
<v Speaker 5>even know about that, and I don't know for what.
<v Speaker 6>Maybe he was getting stoned. That was probably it. But
<v Speaker 6>everything's good that story line right now.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's funny. Everybody thinks and drawn the conclusion, Oh,
<v Speaker 2>it's got to be steroids. Everybody thinks steroids are the
<v Speaker 2>reason why people get knocked for the wellness policy. They
<v Speaker 2>don't understand that there's a long list of drugs that
<v Speaker 2>if are found in your system that you will be suspended.
<v Speaker 2>It could be an overdose or an overuse of pain pills.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it could be marijuana, all these harmless things
<v Speaker 2>that not harmless in massive doses. But I mean the
<v Speaker 2>fact is that it's not always steroids. People just point
<v Speaker 2>to that and think that stereotype every single time it's
<v Speaker 2>steroids their performance enhancing drugs. So who the hell knows.
<v Speaker 2>We'll never know unless it's revealed by probably Joe himself,
<v Speaker 2>of what the actual fail was for. So and just
<v Speaker 2>quickly on the bray White thing. The one we was
<v Speaker 2>going to bring this back up is because bray White
<v Speaker 2>had tweeted out I don't know if it was it
<v Speaker 2>was a twenty ninth, So yesterday he said on his
<v Speaker 2>Twitter feed to my mocking Bird, not a loss, but
<v Speaker 2>instead of sacrifice, he wasn't a chapter in my tail.
<v Speaker 2>I began with a mission and now I'm where I
<v Speaker 2>was supposed to be, you'll see. So giving hope to
<v Speaker 2>those basically saying that, hey, everybody, this wasn't a loss,
<v Speaker 2>this was a necessary evil. I'm going to show you
<v Speaker 2>why this is okay and why in the story it
<v Speaker 2>makes sense. Essentially, that's what he's saying in is very
<v Speaker 2>very cryptic type of speak that he uses, which I love.
<v Speaker 5>So I'm just an interesting interesting I didn't see that tweet.
<v Speaker 5>He speaks in tongues. But maybe he is right where
<v Speaker 5>he's supposed.
<v Speaker 6>To be, facing John Cena and getting his redemption match
<v Speaker 6>against him.
<v Speaker 5>At WrestleMania, and we'll see what he does. Maybe his
<v Speaker 5>whole plan this whole time was to turn Jo. Didn't
<v Speaker 5>he try to turn John before?
<v Speaker 2>Yes? I think he did.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, going up to that, he kept trying to get
<v Speaker 5>him to go to dark side. Was that with the lamp?
<v Speaker 5>Is that when he came out of the stupid lamp?
<v Speaker 2>Oh that was in the cage when there was like
<v Speaker 2>a kid there.
<v Speaker 5>Singing or something that John Cena though that.
<v Speaker 2>Was Yeah, that was John Cena.
<v Speaker 5>So they have a history.
<v Speaker 6>He's kind of going down the list of people that
<v Speaker 6>he's had issues with. If you haven't noticed, I mean,
<v Speaker 6>I know there's been legends thrown in here and there,
<v Speaker 6>But he's going out his list, and I think he's
<v Speaker 6>gonna get his wing back at Russell, meaning against John Cena.
<v Speaker 6>What's it going to affect John Cena though, Like that's
<v Speaker 6>I think that's the bigger question right now, seeing what
<v Speaker 6>his track record is. So like, he lost to Goldberg,
<v Speaker 6>so clearly he didn't change Goldberg. You know, Goldberg is
<v Speaker 6>still Goldberg is as stupid as this conversation that we're
<v Speaker 6>having right now that Goldberg is the Universal champion.
<v Speaker 5>So that happened. But everybody else, everybody else, he's changed.
<v Speaker 6>And I think that his goal was always to change
<v Speaker 6>John Cena, because nobody's been able to do it. So
<v Speaker 6>let's let's see if that's where he's leading to. Because again,
<v Speaker 6>this isn't the first time that they have crossed paths.
<v Speaker 6>I don't think that John Cena knows what to do
<v Speaker 6>with this version of Wyatt though the other why he
<v Speaker 6>kind of thought he was a chump.
<v Speaker 5>John Cena doesn't know what to do with this, Wyatt.
<v Speaker 2>No, he has no idea, and they're going to draw
<v Speaker 2>on that past program from what five years ago, whatever
<v Speaker 2>it may be. I hope they do there, absolutely should.
<v Speaker 2>They be foolish not to, and that's probably why in
<v Speaker 2>Wyatt's tweet he said he wasn't a chapter in my tail,
<v Speaker 2>referring to Goldberg not part being part of his list
<v Speaker 2>of victims that he was going after, and which is
<v Speaker 2>why he didn't attack him after the match. I didn't
<v Speaker 2>he didn't see the pay per view, but after why
<v Speaker 2>it lost he stood up after his terrible jackhammer and
<v Speaker 2>act like he was going to attack Goldberg from behind,
<v Speaker 2>and he didn't. He just disappeared. So I think that
<v Speaker 2>that's probably what he's alluding to, that he's not part
<v Speaker 2>of my part of my my plan or my attack,
<v Speaker 2>but having John Cena be part of that's probably what
<v Speaker 2>he'll say. This is why I am who I am
<v Speaker 2>is because of you, John. There's a lot to draw
<v Speaker 2>from there. I'm looking forward to the promos. They should
<v Speaker 2>be extremely extremely entertaining, is particularly the Firefly fu House
<v Speaker 2>the next few weeks. I'm really interested to see and
<v Speaker 2>hear what he has to say about John Cena and
<v Speaker 2>why he decided to challenge Sena. It was interesting though.
<v Speaker 2>One last note on that is that John Cena comes
<v Speaker 2>out and talks about how here, you know, this is
<v Speaker 2>all about the future. I'm gonna I'm here to announce
<v Speaker 2>that I'm not gonna be at WrestleMania and not be
<v Speaker 2>a part of it, you know, and then immediately following
<v Speaker 2>that fifteen minute promo, goes up to the ramp and all,
<v Speaker 2>you know, all all the Fiend has to do is
<v Speaker 2>point to the WrestleMania sign and that was enough to go, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>well everything I just said doesn't matter. I'm gonna be
<v Speaker 2>a part of WrestleMania because you pointed to the sign.
<v Speaker 2>It's just interesting that he took all this time to
<v Speaker 2>talk about how it's about the future and not about
<v Speaker 2>him anymore, and then just staring at the Fiend pointing
<v Speaker 2>at the sign, he was like, yeah, let's do this right.
<v Speaker 2>So it's just kind of interesting that it was just
<v Speaker 2>that easy to go back on his word.
<v Speaker 6>Well, John Cena also did a retirement speech and then
<v Speaker 6>he was what back two weeks later, like what he
<v Speaker 6>was going through is divorced, So that didn't bother me.
<v Speaker 6>I think, like, why didn't point to the sign until
<v Speaker 6>after John turned around and looked at him. What bothers
<v Speaker 6>me most about this whole end thing is why did
<v Speaker 6>why it attack John Cena? He's attacked to everybody else
<v Speaker 6>and Sena is untouchable.
<v Speaker 5>Like, I mean, I know he has a song that's
<v Speaker 5>called that and blah blah blah John Cena lore. But
<v Speaker 5>John's been away for a while. I get that.
<v Speaker 6>But John can take a beating. He could take an attack.
<v Speaker 6>It's not like he's not in shape or anything like that.
<v Speaker 6>It's John Cena. He's a freaking cyborg. It just didn't
<v Speaker 6>make sense to me that the fiend shows up and
<v Speaker 6>points at the WrestleMania sign, Like why does the fiend
<v Speaker 6>care about WrestleMania? He just cares about like what he's doing,
<v Speaker 6>as you know, the fiend.
<v Speaker 5>So that was what caught me off guard.
<v Speaker 6>But if you notice when John turned around and he
<v Speaker 6>looks at him before he pointed at the sign, John's
<v Speaker 6>face turned very serious. So I see it as John Cena.
<v Speaker 6>You know, ww's his home. He went on about that.
<v Speaker 6>You know he's still the you know, the level I mean,
<v Speaker 6>they haven't really gotten to John Cena since Sean has
<v Speaker 6>been gone. He's at that mythical level now in the
<v Speaker 6>company and is still as an active, part time wrestler
<v Speaker 6>and it's his home and he's he's the commander of
<v Speaker 6>the locker room, and this guy has been a threat
<v Speaker 6>and he's been taking out people. So John Cena is
<v Speaker 6>the hero and he's like, no, oh wait, I gotta
<v Speaker 6>deal with you, you know. So maybe that's it. It could
<v Speaker 6>be as simple as that. I just want to see
<v Speaker 6>what happens to John after because I also think they
<v Speaker 6>took the time. They could have done it for the title,
<v Speaker 6>but then it would have been John breaking the record
<v Speaker 6>and breaking Flaire's record, and he's part time. He's not
<v Speaker 6>going to be around long after WrestleMania. He's becoming a
<v Speaker 6>movie star. So I think that's that's also why they
<v Speaker 6>did it, so they could do why it is seen
<v Speaker 6>it and there was no title on the line, because
<v Speaker 6>if the title was on the line, John was gonna win.
<v Speaker 5>If it's not, it doesn't matter if John wins or not.
<v Speaker 2>Which most people I think. I don't know if most
<v Speaker 2>people are on the on the side of wanting to
<v Speaker 2>see johnsena beat Rick Flair's record, and I think maybe
<v Speaker 2>they were worried that that would have played into well,
<v Speaker 2>Number one, John scene is not the future. Number two
<v Speaker 2>would be a very quick one off, as John Cena
<v Speaker 2>is obviously into more movie schedules than he is WWE world,
<v Speaker 2>So what would he just drop the belt in a month?
<v Speaker 2>I mean, just to have him win seventeen at WrestleMania
<v Speaker 2>and possibly you know, turning the crowd against him to
<v Speaker 2>not see that happen. So it was a smart move
<v Speaker 2>taking the belt off of the Fiend. If you're gonna
<v Speaker 2>have a John Cena Fiend match, it makes total sense.
<v Speaker 2>This is just about personal issues and that's what it
<v Speaker 2>should be with a a legend returning and just do
<v Speaker 2>kind of a one off and having the Fiend do
<v Speaker 2>that makes sense, and having him not attack John Cena.
<v Speaker 2>I agree, it's a little weird, and to just do
<v Speaker 2>the kind of corporate the corporate way of challenging people
<v Speaker 2>to WrestleMania to point to the sign or whatever was
<v Speaker 2>a little bit off of the character for the Fiend.
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, I don't know why he couldn't have at
<v Speaker 2>least just done a mandible claw to John Cena. If
<v Speaker 2>he's like, hey, look, I don't want to take any chances.
<v Speaker 2>I've got this, this and that shooting tomorrow, you could
<v Speaker 2>have just done a mandible claw and laid on your back,
<v Speaker 2>like you know, Kerent Angle and even Braunz Stroman and
<v Speaker 2>Jerry the King Long. Look, there are there are guys
<v Speaker 2>that just you just lay there, right, you just lay
<v Speaker 2>there and take it. So super easy move to take.
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, it did make sense. But I mean, I
<v Speaker 2>don't know. I'm still looking forward to this a lot
<v Speaker 2>more than I'm looking forward to Roman Reigns and the
<v Speaker 2>Goldberg I will tell you that, like this one actually
<v Speaker 2>has me intrigued from, as you said, not just the
<v Speaker 2>match itself, which I think will be much much better
<v Speaker 2>than Goldberg rains, but it from a character change. Stand.
<v Speaker 2>Do they dare try to turn John Cena? Heel? Do
<v Speaker 2>they even go that road?
<v Speaker 6>The most talked about He'll turn Ever, you know, Hogan
<v Speaker 6>did it?
<v Speaker 5>Sena hasn't. Sena hasn't gone back.
<v Speaker 6>I mean, if you've been watching The Ruthless Aggression, I
<v Speaker 6>have to reorder WW Network. But I watched the first
<v Speaker 6>two episodes and they did the whole thing around John
<v Speaker 6>and you know he was talking about when he said
<v Speaker 6>he needed to stop rapping because of the kids and
<v Speaker 6>stuff like that, and they could use that as an
<v Speaker 6>angle right now too, because you know, Fien has the
<v Speaker 6>flyhouse and you always hear your kids laughing, and it's
<v Speaker 6>supposed to be like a child show like you know,
<v Speaker 6>Blues Clues, all those kind of shows. So maybe that's
<v Speaker 6>that's the bartering chip right now. Who's in charge of
<v Speaker 6>the children, Like John Cena is the hero of all
<v Speaker 6>the children, So if he loses to Wyat, it might
<v Speaker 6>finally make him switch, and he's been switching a lot
<v Speaker 6>of people, and it won't really matter because John's gone
<v Speaker 6>and he can pull the whole on Hollywood like The
<v Speaker 6>Rock did when The Rock came back and he was
<v Speaker 6>a heel and he was filming stuff.
<v Speaker 5>It works.
<v Speaker 6>I think it should happen. I want John to have
<v Speaker 6>fun in the end of his career, even though I
<v Speaker 6>think he'll be happy being John Cena. I mean, he
<v Speaker 6>seems like one of the nicest people on earth. So
<v Speaker 6>I don't know. I'm just interested on it again, that's
<v Speaker 6>that's me. It's gonna be a good match. They'll have
<v Speaker 6>a great match. John always can have a good match
<v Speaker 6>when he turns it on. But the aftermath, what's gonna
<v Speaker 6>happen after and if this is going to change Sean
<v Speaker 6>because he lost to this guy, it's gonna be interesting
<v Speaker 6>to see. Well, they probably do it, no, but I
<v Speaker 6>can hope and dream and make conspiracy theories.
<v Speaker 5>I'm a wait for Senate fill turn forever.
<v Speaker 2>So just like I'm waiting for a Roman reigns one.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, uh, this is if you're gonna do it,
<v Speaker 2>And I wouldn't say this your conspiracies too far off
<v Speaker 2>because you have the biggest stage possible to do it
<v Speaker 2>at WrestleMania. You have a guy that is not gonna
<v Speaker 2>get any younger to do it at WrestleMania. I mean,
<v Speaker 2>obviously he's getting older. If you're gonna do it, every
<v Speaker 2>year that goes by is a year that you should
<v Speaker 2>have probably done it. And you have it against a
<v Speaker 2>guy that is it has transformed but three four guys
<v Speaker 2>into their heel turns. That's what he does. Yeah, well yeah,
<v Speaker 2>so that is what his mission is. So you have
<v Speaker 2>a character that is one of the best ww's had
<v Speaker 2>in a decade, you have a platform to do it,
<v Speaker 2>you have the motivation of the heel to do it.
<v Speaker 2>It just all makes sense for it to finally happen,
<v Speaker 2>and it has to be a Fiend win. I mean,
<v Speaker 2>I don't see a world in which John Cena wins this.
<v Speaker 2>I just don't Two losses, two huge losses in a
<v Speaker 2>row for the Fiend, not just losing your belt, but
<v Speaker 2>losing to another part timer at WrestleMania would really, really,
<v Speaker 2>really hurt the Fiend. So this is to me a
<v Speaker 2>foregone conclusion. I hate saying that because then I eat
<v Speaker 2>my words. But to have a very strongly predictable outcome
<v Speaker 2>of the Fiend winning is fine with me because the
<v Speaker 2>as you said, it's the aftermath that I'm really interested in.
<v Speaker 2>It's not necessarily the match, it's how does John Cena
<v Speaker 2>take this loss to the Fiend? Does it indeed change him?
<v Speaker 2>And I'm very interested to see not just that, but
<v Speaker 2>the narrative that we build up to WrestleMania towards. What
<v Speaker 2>does bray Wyatt talk about over the next four weeks.
<v Speaker 2>Does he talk about trying to change John Cena or
<v Speaker 2>does he just talk about a bunch of mumbo jumbo
<v Speaker 2>and rambling Rabbit and all this stuff. The narrative is
<v Speaker 2>going to drive I think what ultimately happens at the
<v Speaker 2>end of this match.
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, and he's got a lot to you know, feast
<v Speaker 6>on and to poke it proud at him because he
<v Speaker 6>isn't around anymore. So it's kind of like he's abandoned
<v Speaker 6>we universe and Bray hasn't, you know. He wants everybody to.
<v Speaker 5>Let him in. So it's kind of like when Punk
<v Speaker 5>went up against him in twenty eleven and called him
<v Speaker 5>he's everything that he hates, He's the New York Yankees now,
<v Speaker 5>you know, and he slocked him. That was one of
<v Speaker 5>the best lines Punk ever throughout.
<v Speaker 6>By the way, there's a lot for Wyat to pick
<v Speaker 6>apart at John and it attack him psychologically, and I
<v Speaker 6>think this is going to be a huge psychological thing.
<v Speaker 6>We gonna hopefully we'll get serious John Cena, because any
<v Speaker 6>other John Cena other than wrapping John Cena, which we're
<v Speaker 6>not going to get for this. It doesn't work if
<v Speaker 6>he's making corny jokes or kind of like brushing us
<v Speaker 6>off his shoulders and stuff like that, as.
<v Speaker 5>To being dead serious John, Like, I'm gonna win.
<v Speaker 6>But his cage needs to be rattled, man and I
<v Speaker 6>think they have a good opportunity to pray on that
<v Speaker 6>because he hasn't been around and he has been wrestling
<v Speaker 6>part time, and I think the last time where he
<v Speaker 6>was doing the last stretch before he left for I
<v Speaker 6>guess this permanent gone that he's been for a while.
<v Speaker 6>He was using matches, right, Remember, he was getting defeated.
<v Speaker 6>He was sitting in the middle of the ring and
<v Speaker 6>he was just shaking his head like he didn't have
<v Speaker 6>it anymore. And then he lost to the Undertaker last
<v Speaker 6>year real quick. So it's kind of going in that direction.
<v Speaker 6>I know he was doing that so he could leave,
<v Speaker 6>but it's prime for the picking for somebody like bray
<v Speaker 6>Wyatt to go after him, and it'll be a redeeming
<v Speaker 6>moment for bray Wyatt from the first time around and
<v Speaker 6>from the bad two losses that you just said, you
<v Speaker 6>know that he had after Goldberg.
<v Speaker 2>This is a this is I hope that his tweet
<v Speaker 2>is not misleading and that we all look back and go, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>that sucked against Goldberg in the moment. It was stupid
<v Speaker 2>in the moment, but ultimately where you are now, if
<v Speaker 2>at WrestleMania, we go back and go, Okay, I'm on
<v Speaker 2>board for this. It was worth not having the belt.
<v Speaker 2>Let's like, let's go. I hope we're all saying that
<v Speaker 2>at the end of this match, and having John Cena
<v Speaker 2>the narrative here, as you said, having not try to
<v Speaker 2>be funny John Cena. John Cena trying to be funny
<v Speaker 2>is usually never ever funny. I don't mind the doctor
<v Speaker 2>of thagonomics, but I don't need the iteration of John
<v Speaker 2>Cena as we saw Friday, but trying to be funny
<v Speaker 2>it's very rare. I don't like that. I like the
<v Speaker 2>really serious John Cena. As you said, that's the Scena
<v Speaker 2>that we need, because if he tries to be funny
<v Speaker 2>and Tate doesn't take this lightly, it's gonna really, really,
<v Speaker 2>I think, hurt the Fiend's character and hurt the fear
<v Speaker 2>that he's trying to instill in his opponents and the
<v Speaker 2>perception of fear. So yeah, John Cena has to take
<v Speaker 2>this seriously. I don't need him making jokes or being funny.
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I'm on board for that. So one last
<v Speaker 2>thing I want to ask you about and then obviously
<v Speaker 2>bring up anything that you want to, is the Mizzen
<v Speaker 2>Morrison winning the SmackDown tag team belts from the New Day.
<v Speaker 2>I like this. I think it's the right move. It's
<v Speaker 2>interesting that John Morrison is exactly where he is now
<v Speaker 2>as to when he left WWE, so WW just kind
<v Speaker 2>of slotted him back in the same place, which you
<v Speaker 2>could say, you know, hey, Morrison's been gone for like
<v Speaker 2>what seven years, and you're just going to stick him
<v Speaker 2>back in the same damn place. But he kind of
<v Speaker 2>found a comfy home with the Miz. I like them
<v Speaker 2>as heels, particularly the Miss is a heel. I don't
<v Speaker 2>think New Day need the belts. Usos don't need the belts.
<v Speaker 2>Heavy machinery probably not ready for the belts yet, although
<v Speaker 2>we're getting I think closer. If Otis can get his
<v Speaker 2>mind off Mandy Rose and then the Mizz and Morrison,
<v Speaker 2>I think I think they could have a lengthy run
<v Speaker 2>with those belts, and I think it's the right place
<v Speaker 2>for them to have it.
<v Speaker 6>Uh yeah, I mean, the New Day has had the
<v Speaker 6>title so many times now you always think that they
<v Speaker 6>are the tag team champs, so it's a new tag.
<v Speaker 5>Team to have the titles. But at the same time,
<v Speaker 5>it's not.
<v Speaker 6>You know, they had to run the last time Morrison
<v Speaker 6>was there and we were talking about it the last time.
<v Speaker 6>They don't really have a police for Morrison as a
<v Speaker 6>singles competitor. They need to still change your music and
<v Speaker 6>his opening, but they're not going to. They're gonna stick
<v Speaker 6>with it. But yeah, it works, there's nothing wrong with it.
<v Speaker 6>They're good together and they have good chemistry. And as
<v Speaker 6>long as you have the Miz in that microphone position,
<v Speaker 6>you can't.
<v Speaker 5>Really go wrong. I mean, he's Tacklon at this point.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the Mizzes, you could do anything to miss. At
<v Speaker 2>this point, he's done. He had a kind of a
<v Speaker 2>failed babyface run that just turned him back to heel.
<v Speaker 2>It felt a little bit like Seth Rowinds as a
<v Speaker 2>baby face just didn't feel right, never felt right, felt
<v Speaker 2>too forced, felt like the wee stuff was a little
<v Speaker 2>bit too manufactured. The Miz never quite cut it as
<v Speaker 2>a baby face and that's fine. Think gave it a
<v Speaker 2>real try and it didn't work, just as Seth rollins
<v Speaker 2>babyface run, while at times was mildly successful, never turned
<v Speaker 2>into what they really wanted. And so yeah, those two
<v Speaker 2>guys are just slotted to be heels. Morrison, I don't
<v Speaker 2>know how he keeps his eight pack and how he
<v Speaker 2>continues to just look like his body is twenty six
<v Speaker 2>years old and the moves that he can still do
<v Speaker 2>are crazy. He's not the greatest on the mic he
<v Speaker 2>kind of feels a little robotic. So yeah, I would
<v Speaker 2>keep the microphone in the hand of the mizz for sure,
<v Speaker 2>But I know I like it. I see also at
<v Speaker 2>WrestleMania this being some kind of multi team match. I
<v Speaker 2>know we're getting this elimination chamber with every basically every
<v Speaker 2>single tag team that WWE has on SmackDown stuck into
<v Speaker 2>the chamber. Again, what did they do to deserve to
<v Speaker 2>be there, We'll never know, other than just exist on
<v Speaker 2>the roster, which was basically the qualifying event that allowed
<v Speaker 2>them to be in the chamber. But I'm thinking it's
<v Speaker 2>probably going to be a multiperson match again at Wrestlemanium,
<v Speaker 2>maybe a multiperson ladder match for the tag team belts.
<v Speaker 2>So those are my thoughts. But ultimately I think the
<v Speaker 2>New Day doesn't need them, usos don't need them, so
<v Speaker 2>it's going to be an entertaining ride from here to Mania.
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I agree with everything you're saying. I don't have
<v Speaker 6>problem with the program.
<v Speaker 5>They probably will have the titles for a while.
<v Speaker 6>I do want to see the US get the titles back,
<v Speaker 6>and I think that we see that sooner than later.
<v Speaker 6>If Roman wins, which he probably will at wrestle Mania,
<v Speaker 6>and then they all still stick in their stable together
<v Speaker 6>and they all have titles, I could see that happening
<v Speaker 6>for a little bit.
<v Speaker 5>But yeah, it's a good move for right now.
<v Speaker 2>All right, Mary, Well, is there anything else that we
<v Speaker 2>didn't talk about or maybe you wanted to expand upon
<v Speaker 2>go ahead?
<v Speaker 6>I was I was thinking we were talking about the
<v Speaker 6>feme real quick too with the tweet that he sent out.
<v Speaker 5>Maybe he lost on purpose.
<v Speaker 6>I mean when he when Goldberg showed up last week,
<v Speaker 6>what was on raw? He spared him like the fiend,
<v Speaker 6>didn't attack him. That's the other weird thing. He hasn't
<v Speaker 6>attacked people. He didn't attack Oldberg. Goldberg just spared him
<v Speaker 6>in the middle of the ring. And then he came
<v Speaker 6>out with Sena and he needed attack Sena and he
<v Speaker 6>just to sign maybe that quick win were he.
<v Speaker 5>Just won with a supplex. Did why I get any
<v Speaker 5>offense in?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah he did. It wasn't a whole lot. It wasn't
<v Speaker 2>a whole lot at all.
<v Speaker 5>But he did, but maybe maybe he lied down on
<v Speaker 5>purpose sacrifice.
<v Speaker 2>I could play that.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised.
<v Speaker 2>Maybe there's a character that Yeah, right, so there's a
<v Speaker 2>character on the roster that you're gonna have try to
<v Speaker 2>explain why they purposely tried to lose. That would be
<v Speaker 2>the one that you could try to spin it. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>you could. I'm for that. Rather than having it be
<v Speaker 2>Goldberg going in and the Fiend gave it everything he
<v Speaker 2>had and you were able to beat me. No, I'd
<v Speaker 2>rather have the fiend have some kind of twisted way
<v Speaker 2>of presenting to me that he lost because he has
<v Speaker 2>bigger fish to fry, even if in the sacrifice of
<v Speaker 2>losing the belt he was able to get to John Cena.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, if you are able to sit down and
<v Speaker 2>figure it out, I'm sure there is a very smart
<v Speaker 2>way to present it. So hey, if that's the case, yes,
<v Speaker 2>But I have a feeling they're not even going to
<v Speaker 2>address it, I really do.
<v Speaker 5>I mean I don't think there are either. But it's
<v Speaker 5>also if that was the case, why didn't he show
<v Speaker 5>up in the bray Wyat persona the one that doesn't
<v Speaker 5>fight back. So yeah, I don't know.
<v Speaker 6>Again, I still can't believe that he lost the title
<v Speaker 6>at Super Showed Out.
<v Speaker 5>It's just it's it's baffling to me.
<v Speaker 6>But hopefully, I mean, it's leading to a John Cena
<v Speaker 6>Fien match, and I'm.
<v Speaker 5>Really curious to see how that goes. If he wins,
<v Speaker 5>I just hope that, like no offense to John, I
<v Speaker 5>hope John doesn't win.
<v Speaker 6>I hope it's not predictable John Cena wins, you know, Lol,
<v Speaker 6>it shouldn't be. If he's talking about the future and
<v Speaker 6>stuff like that, he should be, you know, repaying Wyatt
<v Speaker 6>for all. You know why it's been on a redemption tour.
<v Speaker 6>And that's why this whole Goldberg thing was really really baffling.
<v Speaker 6>And the only way I could explain it is what
<v Speaker 6>I just said. And maybe he threw the match on purpose.
<v Speaker 6>It would be something new, it would be something fresh,
<v Speaker 6>and if anybody can explain it, it would be very Wiatt.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I like that. I like that better than believing
<v Speaker 2>Goldberg was able to beat the Fiend and that, Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>the Fiend was just run over by the fifty four
<v Speaker 2>year old man that has a he's a two trick pony. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I could do a whole thing on Goldberg.
<v Speaker 2>And I know he's a very decent guy from what
<v Speaker 2>I understand as a person, good dad, all that wonderful thing,
<v Speaker 2>all those lovey dovey stuff. But when it comes to
<v Speaker 2>n Ring and the problem is you're a you're in
<v Speaker 2>a completely different era, right. Goldberg is living in an
<v Speaker 2>era where it's not just about the two trick ponies anymore,
<v Speaker 2>and it's about being able to put on a hell
<v Speaker 2>of a match and have characters with depth. And the
<v Speaker 2>guy can't cut a promo and he can't really wrestle
<v Speaker 2>beyond a couple of football moves and a glorified suplex.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, he's got the look, he's got the body type,
<v Speaker 2>he's got the charisma, and that's what's carried him to
<v Speaker 2>where he is today. So he was the right right
<v Speaker 2>guy in the right place at the right time. But
<v Speaker 2>if this was twenty years ago, boy, I mean, it's
<v Speaker 2>just amazing that this is a this is actually happening.
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I mean, I don't have much more to say
<v Speaker 6>about it, but like I said, hopefully there's silver a
<v Speaker 6>lining all this, and maybe bray White is going after
<v Speaker 6>Rais and he wants yes to have his title and
<v Speaker 6>take it off of him as SummerSlam.
<v Speaker 5>Who knows, But all I know is again I was right.
<v Speaker 5>It wasn't going to be.
<v Speaker 2>Why it raise it if there's a grand plan that
<v Speaker 2>bray White has that is being built around him losing
<v Speaker 2>on purpose and facing John Cena and beating him eventually
<v Speaker 2>gets If there's this long story arc that's really smartly written,
<v Speaker 2>I'm on board for it. I don't see it right now,
<v Speaker 2>and I wouldn't put it past WWUE to have it.
<v Speaker 2>But WWE is not very good at long story arcs.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, they're just not. So While I'm on board
<v Speaker 2>for it and you're getting me excited again for it,
<v Speaker 2>I just I don't have the faith in them to
<v Speaker 2>think that, to think that way. I think they think
<v Speaker 2>that WWE thinks fans are extremely short term memory loss
<v Speaker 2>prone and that they just want the next thing and
<v Speaker 2>forget what happened last night, and they just go based
<v Speaker 2>on that and they just keep moving forward and not
<v Speaker 2>worry about the loopholes sitting behind them. And I think
<v Speaker 2>that's a very pisspoor way to book. But that's just
<v Speaker 2>the way that they've booked over the last forever. That's
<v Speaker 2>just what they've done forever. So all right, all right, well, Murray,
<v Speaker 2>it has been as always a very fun conversation and
<v Speaker 2>I will continue to monitor your damn tweets that just
<v Speaker 2>seem to be spot on. And if you have anything
<v Speaker 2>else that you want to share with the class about
<v Speaker 2>what you think could happen or things that you see coming,
<v Speaker 2>please feel free to let us know, because I feel
<v Speaker 2>like I'm in.
<v Speaker 6>The dark sometimes I've been trying to tell you I've been,
<v Speaker 6>but sometimes you don't watch stuff, so I have to
<v Speaker 6>make sure that like it's just or you watch it late.
<v Speaker 6>And I do that too, So I just like the
<v Speaker 6>other day that was like the first thing that popped
<v Speaker 6>in my head in the morning, that was like I
<v Speaker 6>woke up and I was like, oh crap, it just
<v Speaker 6>like came to me, like again, maybe I'm a soothsayer.
<v Speaker 5>I don't know. I've been watching a lot.
<v Speaker 6>Of Sabrina lately. Maybe I got like the touch or
<v Speaker 6>the shin or the something. I don't know, the cunning
<v Speaker 6>we'll see. But you know, Mary's Conspiracy Theory Corner is
<v Speaker 6>a hot It's a hot segment on the WW podcast.
<v Speaker 2>Yes it is. I mean, maybe I've come up like.
<v Speaker 5>A jingle for it or something with a jingle music.
<v Speaker 2>I do. I really have to. And you know, the
<v Speaker 2>whole Sabrina thing, the what is it? The chilling Tales
<v Speaker 2>of Sabrina or the yeah it's not it's not Sobrina,
<v Speaker 2>the teenage watchin. Yeah, my wife and I watched the
<v Speaker 2>first two seasons. We got in like a few into
<v Speaker 2>the few episodes into season three. It is super dark.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, super dark. I love it. It's pretty good. She's
<v Speaker 5>kind of annoying, but I think that's the point, so
<v Speaker 5>I like it.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, So again, if you're expecting it to be
<v Speaker 2>Melissa Joe and Hart and her aunts just doing silliness
<v Speaker 2>with Salem, no, it's about like literally like Satan and
<v Speaker 2>demons and like real shit. So yeah. So all right, Mary, Well,
<v Speaker 2>thank you again for joining me, and we'll be in touch.
<v Speaker 2>Continue with your conspiracy theories. You're now making me a believer,
<v Speaker 2>so before you go, let everyone know where they can
<v Speaker 2>follow you.
<v Speaker 6>You can follow me on Twitter at mayor Underscore Bear
<v Speaker 6>b A r E. And you can follow me on Instagram,
<v Speaker 6>which I'm not as active as I am on Twitter
<v Speaker 6>at Poppins through eleven.
<v Speaker 2>Awesome. Well, thank you, Mary, We will be talking in
<v Speaker 2>three weeks, says, elimination chamber will have now passed and
<v Speaker 2>my God will be what a couple of weeks away
<v Speaker 2>from WrestleMania.
<v Speaker 5>So a couple of.
<v Speaker 6>Weeks from WrestleMania and like a week before my birthday,
<v Speaker 6>I'm getting old guys for birthdays a month.
<v Speaker 2>So no, I hear you. I just turned thirty five, than.
<v Speaker 5>I've got one last year in those thirties coming up
<v Speaker 5>speak again.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, live it up, live it up. You're still in
<v Speaker 2>your thirties. That's what I said about my twenties. And yeah,
<v Speaker 2>you just keep going so awesome. Well, Mary, thanks so
<v Speaker 2>much for joining us. We will talk to you very soon.
<v Speaker 5>Thanks for having me talk to you soon. Night night.
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