#249 - Bobby and Billy Dukes from Taste of Country on The Top 10 Hottest Country Artists of 2020 + Music Movie Review: Walk Hard with Bobby, Movie Mike and Eddie

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Speaker 1: And welcome to episode to forty nine, where at the end of this Eddie might e d and I will review the movie Walk Card The Dewey Cox Story. It's an old movie, but it's a music movie. I've never seen it, thought it'd be funny. So if you haven't seen the movie, you still might like listen to the review because we're we're kind of dumb. But if you haven't seen it and you want to watch it, maybe go watch it then come back to the end of this podcast. But we're gonna put it at the end in case there are spoilers in there too, right, Mike a little bit, But that's not a movie. It doesn't matter if it's spoiled. It's not like some crazy ending. Yeah, there's nothing you can really spoil it, So check that out. Check the movie out. Um. Also, we'll talk to Billy Duke's coming up from Taste Country on the top ten Hottest Artist, kind of go through that. Billy Duke's smart guy like him, have him on to talk about that music Headlines of the Week Live Nation is trying to get artists to take pay cuts for concerts and festivals next year. In a memo obtained by rolling Stone, Live Nation sites unprecedented times and quote the exponential release excuse me, the exponential rise of certain costs as reasons for adjusting payment policies. That's interesting because they're gonna have to pay a lot more to make make sure things are safe and clean. Then they thought they would let me read more about this. Most of the new policies shift financial burdens to the artists. For example, the company wants to decrease the monetary guarantees promised to artists before an event. Across the board. Live Nation also says that if a concert is canceled due to poor ticket sales, it will give the artist of the guarantee. Well, that's interesting, and I think I'll speak on this as also a performer. I work with these promotion companies, promoters all different ones. I think as long as books are shown, people can make wise decisions about business they're doing together. And it's not that I don't trust Live Nation or an artist, but I would like to see if I'm someone that's has has agreed to a tour or agreed to you know, three or four shows or even a show, I want to see those costs and why I'm gonna take mine down on the on the Cancel's great for an artist. They still get paid even if they don't sell tickets because people don't want to come. Let's say this twenty they're they're guarantee twenty bucks. Um, they're probably a lower act would be guaranteed about ten to fifteen thousand, unless it's a baby act. On a big tour, they're about five to five thousand and seventy. A lower act tend that big acts or the hundreds of thousands dollars a night. So you're talking about that's a nice little little give there. But that's interesting. I never thought about the fact that it's gonna cost more to put on shows, So I think as long as they show their books a little bit. I don't know why an artist would say no to that, because everybody's gonna lose some money here. Everybody and no party promoter or artist should benefit and the others should suffer. You should kind of all be in this together in a way. Interesting. Let me think about that some more. Maybe do a whole podcast on that would be the most worring podcast ever. Just open up a book. Now that the whole country is protesting, raging against the Machine is actually back on the charts. The band's self titled debut album landed back on the Billboard two hundred. It reached number eight on the iTunes Top Album charts as well. Do we have any rage? I can put them up. This is right in my gut from back in high school more so than college. I guess it was like ninth and tenth grade. I would have someone send me a tape of the Edge in Dallas. They'd hit record play and just tape like an hour, and the flip to tape tape an hour, and I get a lot of rage in that. Yeah, I was a big rage guy, but I didn't really know why. I just like the sound. I didn't really know what they were protesting at the time. By the time I started to know, I started to get older and getting college and they started to fall off a little bit and do their own things. But now I look back pretty cool. Uh, this is one of my favorites. What else do you have? All right, so we're limited in the rage music. Uh ACN has secured a six billion dollar contract to build a con City, a futuristic cryptocurrency theme city in Senegal. Along with having homes, malls, and a power plant. Acon city will have all the amenities of city needs, including schools and a police station. Pretty baller. Some people have buildings, he has a whole city, like super futuristic? Does this ever actually happen? Though? I don't know the guy who did smack that now has a city? And is he the king? Is he just there's king? Yeah? What? Because if he's not, he's still who the city is named after. And then if he does something really bad in his older life, like commits a bad crime, you have to change the name of it because they don't want to name the city after. Like you're not seeing anything Bill Cosby elementary schools. It's still remaining in play. Not that he would do that, but I'm saying, you know, he commits fraud Martha Stewart style. Do you have to change the name of the city. Uh? Finally, dashboard CONFESSI s old singer Chris Corraba suffered to be her injuries in a motorcycle accident. Luckily they weren't life threatening and he expects to make a full recovery. I was watching the video of him in the hospital bed. You see it. Yeah, that's sad looking. Yeah, it looks pretty terrible motorcycles. Just never had the need to get on a on a motorcycle. He's a motorcycle guy, though he looks cool riding a motorcycle. He lives in town. He lives here. Oh, I've never seen him riding, and I just said, like he he's the kind of guy that will look cool riding a motorcy like all the tattoos, like the good looking face. If you have those two things, the tattoos in the face, it's pretty good to go. But he's what happened to him? Do you know? I don't know he had a car car hit him. I don't even think that he hit anybody. I think he just fell Rookie. Here's the one thing. I've never wrecked a motorcycle. I don't think I've ever been on while driving it. Though I've never wrecked a motorcycle. Uh, let's talk about new music before we get into this. I'm just really it's really weird about even building statues after people who are still alive. It's always a tricky thing because they do something that's not so good. They could they what do you do? Take the statue down? Wants to wait on your statue. Then yeah, I personally don't, but like I wondered in my town, there's a Sciences boyhood home Bobby Bones. If I do something bad and I go to jail today ripped that down. I don't want that pressure. New music out today. We have five songs we want to share with you. Here, m hmm, I got like seven. Let me see what I put in my top five. At number five, Nikita Carmen, who's a fantastic new artist. She put out a new song called Better. Here's a clip of that happy. At number four, Josh Turner announce he's putting out a new country cover album. He released a cover of Country State of Mind featuring Chris Jansen. By the way, this is a Hank Junior cover. You know Country Spain, Kitchens fish Like They're going out of style drinking Home. At number three, I'm a top five. Gabby Barrett put out her record that's called gold Mine. You can check out the whole record. Here's a song called Write It on My Heart. Rascal Flats put out a new song called how They Remember You, And here's a clip of the Rascal Flats new song what You Choose Remember Me? There it is in the number one song this week. Garth Brooks has a new song called we Belong to each Other. We been long to each Other, were sister and brother like Hawaiian Garth Brooks. That's your top five. I recommend checking out Eric church Tez to have new music earlier this week to his fan club. So there you go. New albums that aren't country. Black Eyed Peas have translation Phoebe Bridgers. I don't know who that is, do you? Yeah, she's like indie artist. Yeah, I figured you would figure That's why I was on the list. Punisher, Bob Dylan, Rough and Rowdy Ways, Michael Fronti and Spearhead or Hard to Be Nice. Lamb of God has an album. Switch Foot has an album Trapped. Remember Trapped. They had one song Herd Strong, Herd Strong, hurt Strong. Remember that? Oh yeah, there is It's jam. They're a one hit wonder like crazy right and I film song in here I forgot about and I forgot her out him. But I mean that was a pop song too. Mr Sommer, No, no, no. Then well they have an album out trying to get that second hit, that all elusive second hit, Headstrong too. That's what they should do. Head strong again. All right, let's get into this podcast. We'll talk about with Billy Dukes. We'll talk about the big biggest country music artists the week, and then we review a music movie at the end of this. Thank you guys. All right on now is Billy Dukes from Taste of Country. And I was looking at this article, Billy, and I was gonna come on to talk about it, but I thought, why not get you on since you're you run the site and helped contribute to this article. Is that right? Yeah? Yeah, so appreciate it. Um team, you know, it's country team. But I was the one who kind of headed it up, yeah, because I was looking at it and I thought it was an interesting article because you know, there isn't a right answer. It's everybody kind of putting their opinion in. And I thought, well, there's nobody that listed as a writer. So we came to you. How does that work when you guys all collaborate, You guys get in a room or I guess you can't get in a room now though, with Corona, do you just send out emails or take a poll of what's going on? We're big on flack kind of all day long. I mean, that's kind of how we worked usually anyway. We have writers based in Texas and out in the Western Tennessee, and until recently a writer in Buffalo, So we've always sort of worked via Slack and emails and occasionally we get on a conference call as well. But the modern way, I suppose, Well, these are country music's top ten artists. Now I may not agree with all of them with you, but I think it's fun to kind of talk through them. Number ten, you guys have Sam Hunt. So talking about Sam Hunt while you made the list, well, I mean this really could have it and might still be sort of a comeback here for Sam Hunt. I mean, it was a long time ago that he released Montevello, and he had the new south Side album which did debut at number one. Um, he had a big tour planned and in some ways this this whole year is kind of a theoretical year since all the tours got canceled. But he was looking to have a pretty good tour with Kit Moore and Travis Denning that I think was going to sell a lot of concert tickets. Um, I'll just forget I think is the big thing for Sam. I just think that's a monster of a song, and it's proven to be digitally, had sold a lot of copies and it sounds really really good on the radio. You know what's funny about Sam is I think he and probably Ashley McBride got screwed over the worst by Corona as far as it was time for them to put their stomp down. Sam again because he's been gone for so long, and Ashley really for the first time with the general public like people actually, uh, they're just country music sort of fans knowing who she is. I felt like they both If I were picking who got hurt the worst as far as breakout years, it would be Sam to rebreak and then Ashley McBride to really have our shot. But it doesn't mean they're not going to break back anyway. But I felt like they were both really poised. Number nine you have Keith Urban. Yeah, Keith. I mean I really kind of expected Keith to be higher going into this. I didn't realize that he hasn't really toured in America anyway, and um really since so that's certainly affected things. Uh the Grassini U album. I would bi Keith Urban fan. I think his albums are fantastic, but it didn't really stick commercially like maybe some of his other ones have. The new music he's working on, though, I think it is doing really well. Um, when God Whispered Your Name is one of my favorite songs of the year so far. We were a pretty big hit and um and then of course he's hosting the A c M. So I think that's gonna lead to a really big fall into winner for Keith. Yeah, this song is my favorite Keith Urban song in a long time. I like like soft Keith Urban. That's my favorite Keith Urban. When I can like poke it and it feels soft and loving, that's my that's my favorite Keith Yeah, you know, yeah, I'm going with you. I like that. Like when he gets pretty experimental as well, like the Pitball collaboration from a couple of albums ago. I could get down with that for a bit. My guess is that the A c M s will not happen so he I think he'll end up posting a thing like doing with c M A Fest now because with c M A Fest the actual show, but they were gonna have that, I was gonna host it. It got ripped away because of obviously they're not having the festival at all. So now there's a virtual thing where they're playing old episodes. Um, but a c M S are alive thing with a bunch of folks in the room. What is that supposed to happen in September October? Billy? Do you remember, uh, September somewhere in their mid September. I can't see them getting a thousand, five thousand, ten thousand people in a room at that point, just just guessing. Can you agree? No, I'm with you. I mean, I think they gotta do something because they got to give out those trophies, don't they. I think the trophy, you know, and it's a weird year to give trophies. I mean with CMA is coming up in November. Uh. We were talking on the show Who's gonna be? Who would you consider for Entertainer of the Year during and you know, I would say Entertainer years never award that has actual guidelines on it. It can be someone who tours or has hits or dust things outside of uh of just music. And I think when you look at that Keith Urban, who was one of the first guys to go and play shows, doing these these drive in shows for first for the you know, frontline workers. I think Garth has to be considered at how he's he's not doing the live shows, but he's doing three drive in theaters at once. He's you know, done a couple of TV shows. So I think Entertainer of the Year as we're talking about a c M S or c M AS, I think it's going to be looked at a bit different this year when you hear that, who would you put in that list of Entertainer of the Year this year? Well, I would add artists like maybe Thomas Rhett and Luke Combs only because they've they've handled the digital elements so well, like they've consistently released new songs on Instagram, TV or through YouTube in the case of Luke Combs, and they've kind of done that, whereas well Dark those digital pretty well too. But you know that's sort of a new generation, is the new version of the live show. At number eight on the list, someone that I I almost put in that Sam Hunt Ashley McBride is Dan and Ship because it was and I'm you know, close to both those guys that are like legitimate friends and I know for them they were finally playing arenas this is two guys who were never supposed to make it according to everyone, who were to everything that wasn't country. They got together, started writing, were always told no, no, no, and they have just hit so hard and they were finally headlining arenas and I remember seeing Dan's message. I think they were outside of arena going we can't do it. We got to call it off and they were just had hit such an apex and now uh not able to go. But they're at number eight on your list. Yeah, and I'm with you. I I had Dan and Shay as the artist probably hit hardist by the coronavirus for those exact reasons. Um, I think that stadium or that arena tour was gonna be huge, and I think we would have had more music from them by now. Um, and they've been so consistent with the quality of songs these last few years. I think, uh, they we have had some great new music from them from now to kind of drive that tour, but also huge on Spotify, and they got a ton of ATM nominations leading up in September, So I think they arguably would have been top five had we not had the COVID nineteam shutdown. Isn't it a while to think that a lot of artists are holding off a bit on putting out music. But when things start to track back, which it could be next year before we really get back into I mean, I think it's gonna take a vaccine for people to just rip and roll. You know, you're gonna see spots of people touring in some place, and there are some parts of the country where they said hey and told me, hey, we can play shows at casinos, And for me, I don't feel comfortable playing shows right now, um at all, but some is gonna But I don't think it's all happening everywhere until there's a vaccine for for COVID, for corona, whatever you gonna call it. But at the same time, you're gonna see everybody releasing new music at the same time. That's wild to think about, could be really nuts. And then leading into next year, my thought is that every artist. Initially my thought was every artist who're gonna play one venue sized down so that it's gonna be really hard to play stadiums, and Kenny Chen he's going to try next year. But then if you're arena artist, you're gonna do maybe smaller arenas and then from there because people they're not gonna be as eager to go to the shows. And I think getting people to allow shows in certain parts of the country, You're not gonna be able to go into southern California or New York or Boston or some of these major metropolitan areas because you're seeing COVID go up and regard of how you believe people should handle it, you know, there are certain rules that some cities are just holding tight on um, you know, with I don't think again, I don't think the cm are gonna happen in Nashville. I don't have any inside knowledge. I'm on the board of the a c MS, but they don't tell us trap like that. But I can't see them putting five thousand people in a room though, do I mean for anything? Can you? No? No, I can't. I know Nashville has open back up, and I'm watching the number of cases every day, and I see him going up and up in Tennessee, and it's a little scary. Jason al Dean's at seven talk about Jason. Jason is like the most consistent artist really of the last ten years. I think he's probably been somewhere between uh three and number seven on this list every year. This is the first year we've done it, but he would have been. Um. He continues to be one of the biggest live draws. He sells I think over sixteen and seventeen thousand tickets the show, and he plays a lot of shows um Spotify. He's not a big streaming artist compared to like the Dan and Chase and the Marion morris Is of the world. But We Back and Got What I Got have both been solid songs. I don't think the nine album has produced maybe that sort of signature song in terms of a radio single quite yet. Um, but they've both been solid number one hits. And then of course he's kind of become viral with his wife Brittany Aldan on Instagram. I mean, she makes some kind of a really fun celebrity to watch as well. You know, she actually makes him a bit relatable because you see the human side of Jason Aldean, who's kind of that country rocker with this image that you don't get to peek behind the curtain until Brittany kind of came into the picture. Yeah, they're super fun to watch, I think on Instagram, I think they're they're cute. I don't know if we would have said Jason Aldean is cute to watch. I don't know that still would say that, but yeah, you're right, it does bring an extra element to Jason. That's funny. Uh. Number six is Marion Morris on your list of the Hottest Country Artists? Yeah, and I really hate that man is the only female artists represented on this list. Um Miranda, I think I could have argued to made the list pretty easily. But Marin is just huge on Spotify. She's a really successful artist streaming. Um. The Bones is a much much bigger song that I think anybody could have possibly imagined. It's held down number one, I think for like fifteen weeks now. And she's also developed not only a really big touring artist in terms of like being able to sell tickets, she's really gotten good. I mean, you've probably seen her a number of times over the years like I have, and you know, she kind of found her way on stage and she can kind of filled up some of those bigger stages and she's just a great live performer nowadays. And The Bones I'll flip over sometimes on satellite and I can hear the one hundred or I can hear the pop station and the Bones is playing on pop radio too, which you know, we haven't seen a lot of artists other than Dan and Shay and a little bit Sam crossover. I don't know if there's been a female Has there been a female crossover really in the last five or six years, Um, Kelsey hasn't really. I mean she was on a Chain Smoker song, so you're right. I don't count Kelsey crossing over because she was on one of their songs. But yeah, Kelsey and Miranda hasn't. No, I mean maybe if you if you want to count be Rexa because that song crossed over country. Yeah, I don't know, but the country up. So my point is good for Marion, like she's doing it and I think she's, you know, still achieving so much at a time where people are kind of chilling back. I think we're having that baby was was was awesome. The timing was like, you don't you never want a pandemic to happen, But if I were gonna have a baby, I'd have a baby at a pandemic when you're locked in the house the whole time, you know, perfect. Yeah, it was out perfectly for Kane Brown's at number five. Yeah, I think Karen, Kane and Marion are really pretty close. Um, Kane's got one more album that sort of sticks around on that album chart. Homesick is all over the radio. That song still sounds good and it's what a year old. Two years old had a big tour this year, and he has all that crossover success, I mean the my Smallow song, John Legend song, and he's done a few more. He continues to prove he's well on his way to becoming a legit not only male Outists of the Year contender, but Entertainer of the Year contender, and probably a few years it's gonna be weird to watch kind of the shift and Entertainer of the year because in country music, the entertainers of the year don't go away, meaning as they get older, they dig in and it's harder to move them out. It's not like people retire over here. You're not gonna see Luke Bryan and Al Dean retire. But then you have the Kane Browns and the the Luke Combs and the Thomas Rhets. They're just almost too many superstars to have them all in that category, you know. Yeah, and Kane's kind of been snubbed from the awards, so who knows when he'll actually kind of get his shot. But I see Luke and Luke Combs and and Thomas rhet are both in the entertainer category for the A c N S, So that's kind of a dramatic shift. Two newbies in out of five, which rolls is over to number four is Thomas Rhette talk about tr Yeah, be a light Man. That's going to be one of the songs of the year and not only kind of defines this time, it's just a really great collaboration. And that came Wow, Beer Camp Fix was nearing number one. Um quietly he's become a really huge live artist. He sold some seven hunds of thousand tickets last year, and I think that Entertainer of the Year not really kind of gave him a leg up maybe on the King Browns of the world to give him them before in this list, well, the A c M s are a bit more progressive. I know Thomas one Thomas Routt one Male Vocalist of the Year a couple of years ago, and that was a big deal because that was the first time that someone had broken through in that category in a while. So it's always interesting to watch the two award shows because the A c M s are a few years ahead or a bit GUESSI and the c M as or maybe a year or two behind. At times when you see people like Dan and Shaye miss and miss and then hit after they probably already should have hit. H Jayson L. Deane, I mean kind of defined that for a while he would win the A c M Entertainer of the Year and he couldn't sniff a nomination. Yeah, that's a good point to see. Blake Shelton is the number three. What he got about Blake? Blake seems to be making a comeback of his own. I mean, he's never really left because he's been on the Voice the whole time. But this God's Country sort of mini album. God's Country obviously a great song. The Gwen Stefani duett was obviously huge, but really some of those more memorable songs over the last five or ten years. My favorite story about Blake is that he retweeted a woman or replied to him when on Twitter who had a book inspired by her late daughter, and then that book shot up to like top five on like three Amazon book charts. He's just really really influential. Well then we get to number one and number two and they're both Luke's. Now I wonder was this close at all or not? Yeah, I think we really debated between the two of them, and it's kind of back to like what you're talking about with regards the entertainer of the years, you have sort of that old guard that sits in those top spots. Um, Luke Combs I think analytically, if you looked at the numbers, is just a little stronger. His albums I think are in the top two or three every single week in terms of the charts. Um, every song he puts out as a hit and memorable, and he's become a great touring artist. Luke Bryant has American idol uh and probably draws more fans per show live. Um, how do you choose between them? I think altimately we kind of went with the numbers and this we try to be analytical and objective, and that meant in some cases maybe leaning more into the numbers. So that's how we kind of add up with Luke Combs at number one. So Luke Bryan's at number two, and I'm gonna read some of what you wrote here what was written. No one on this list sells more concert tickets than Luke Brian. He's the stadium act with a strong foothold of country radio, even if his albums don't hold the same clout as some others before or after him. And again, I'm assuming you guys are adding in things like American Idol and you know, just like Blake with the voice, like things other than just songs on the radio or songs that are streaming. Yeah. Absolutely, I mean I think that kind of adds to their overall heat, if you will. Number one. Luke Combs, boy, I tell you I haven't seen a guy he's been. He has been the unicorn for me and my seven eight years in town. Like you know, Sam hit hard early and did what he did. But Sam was a reluctant star. Um, Luke, I don't know screams. Hey, I knew I was going to be a star, one of be a star, but I haven't. He's just so undeniable all the time and everything he does. I have not seen anything like a Luke Combs trajectory, have you know, especially in terms of how easy he makes it look like all of his songs sounds so easy, and I know they're not. They're well written songs, um, but he does have sort of that swagger. I talked to one of the writers of Beard Never Broke My Heart, and he more or less admitted that Luke Combs knew it was going to be kind of a career song song for him when they wrote it, and that was well before we've ever heard it on the radio. So he does sort of have this swagger about him and no, but he still comes off as a really kind of humble, nice guy when you talk to him. And people that do it really well always make it look really easy. You know. Uh with Luke, you're like, man, he's writing songs. I feel that way. Man, How does he do that? It seems so easy? That's because he's so good, you know. I think Sam is a guy too who writes songs like that. Obviously Sam kind of checked out for a while, but body like a back road. If I hear one more person say, man, I could have written that song, then why don't you freaking write it? You can't write it because it just it sounds so easy. But how Sam writes is Sam will take four days on a song. He'll write a song for five or six hours and then come back into it days and days and days after, and it's the it's the minutia of a song that especially like a song like that that really made it pop. I think Luke and Samer are a lot of like in that way. So who would have been your number one? I agree with most of everything you wrote, maybe the maybe the order is not the same, but I'd have put Luke Combs at one with Luke it two. The only person that I felt was honorable mention or maybe you could have jumped in, was someone who doesn't have the numbers but has so much momentum is Morrigan Wallen like as far as far as like hits and momentum and like undeniable, maybe just an honorable mention like that guy is legit songwriter, singer, performer, like he has the three things to be a country star, and he also has that real you understand that who five minutes with him or watching a clip you know who Morgan Walla did. Wallon is instantly and it's not manufactured at all. So I don't know if he makes top ten. I think you guys did a great job on the list, which is why I wanted to get you on. But I think Morgan Wallon was the one that for me, I was like, oh, that's a close one. Yeah. I think early on we we decided to full kind of focus on arena headliners, which was a tough choice all on its own because there's so many kind of younger artists that just have a lot of what you would call he. I mean, Ashley McBride certainly does, and and some others who are even newer. Morgan Wallen, it's certainly right there. I mean he he kind of checks all the boxes and I think with another album or two, he's going to be a real headliner. All right there. He is Billy Dukes from Tasting Country. Check out the site. I love the site. Rate it constantly on Twitter at Billy Dukes on Instagram at serious Journalist. Well that's the role. Switch up a name, Billy, what what you don't want to go? Billy Dukes on Instagram. So I didn't become Instagram hip until kind of fairly recent me. I had like my personal Instagram, which was just like family photos, and I finally decided I need to get with it, and I think there was already a Billy Dukes on Instagram. So I used a hashtag that I often sees on Twitter, and we was serious journalist, because often I'm not very serious. Did you guys consider Chesney for this list because he's had some radio hits, obviously he's doing the big old tour. Did you consider him at all? Yeah? He was on. Certainly one of the artists we talked about. I mean, I know he's got a big stadium tour, but um, you know that the album and the songs aren't quite as iconic as they used to be. A debut at Number one argued that was because a lot of those albums were attached to the concert tickets. Um, I'm not sure he's so much in the moment is maybe some of the other artists. How are you feeling about artists that do that where they go, Okay, you're gonna buy tickets to the show. You're gonna get the record too, we're gonna count that record towards the first week record play. You think that's a tactic that they're using strategically in a good way or it kind of sucks. If I was an honest I might do it. I probably would do it honestly. I mean, you want your music to get in fans hands, now should the chart keepers? The gatekeepers kind of allowed that calculation. I don't know. I mean it kind of writes itself. He was number one one week and then kind of fell off the charts the next week, so people kind of knew what had happened. Um, but you know, you want to get your music out there, so that's that's a fairly good way to do it. I don't have anything to goodst them for doing it. I guess I would say that it's great if you want to package it, but I don't think it should count on the chart against people who are literally just streaming or buying the record. And then this is not towards Kenny in general. I've but again, you can do it. It's not against any rules. So I would do it too. Don't get me wrong, but I'm saying I don't like the rule that it's if you you're launching a tour, you have an advantage over someone coming out the same week that's just launching a record simply because they're not launching a tour. I think they do it to like if you have like a three or four or five disc box set coming out. Don't you get credit for like five uh, like five records sold if someone buys the whole box set. Like Garth was kind of the king of that for a long time. Yeah, And Garth releases an awesome box set like every week. So it's like Garth the nineties, Garth. Well, okay, never mind, we have new stuff from ninety two only Garth. Yeah. Yeah, um, well listen, Billy. It's great to talk to you. Everybody. Check out Taste Country. It's a fantastic site if you love country music. Have a stay safe, have a good week. We'll talk to you soon, Billy. I really appreciate it, all right, see you later. So this is a music podcast. If you're listening on the Bobby Cast and you're listening on Mike D's podcast, it's a movie podcast. So it's a music movie. We're doing so both. This will go on to both of the podcast. Eddie's also here to to talk with us. This is great. Well, what happened was I was listening to a jutt Apataw interview because he's promoting the King of Staten Island and he did that movie, and he was talking about movies that he did that didn't do so well as far as making a bunch of money. And he said, Hey, I loved Walk Hard, the Dewey Cox story, and I though, I've never seen that before. So I hit Mike up and said, he you don't do a podcast MultiMate podcasts. Well, since it's music, I'll review it, and you're blah blah blah. Here we are. Had Mike seen it, I've seen it when it first came out. I had to rewatch it. What was your thought of it before you went into it that the second time. Did you remember liking it or no. I remember liking it and thinking it was funny, but I think I had kind of had a different outlook on it this time around. Well, so it's a music parody movie. It's parodying two things. One these bio pics and music. It's a whole movie parody parodying how biopics are made, and then two walk to Line Johnny Cash. It's like two parodies happening at the same time. So if you haven't seen it first, let's say if we liked it or not. I thought it was really funny because I'd see all the movies that was parodying which is ray, which is the drug stuff A lot, a lot. It was a lot of the Ray stuff because they're like, ray, you don't want to heroin and and the Dewey Cox he walks in the first time and he's young and they're he's smoking, they're smoking weeds and uh, tim to meadows to meadows like, man, you don't want this week walk away and was like it was like, what's weed? And he's like, well, it makes you feel good and he's like yeah, he goes and it's not addictive at all, and he goes really and he goes, yeah, and it's actually not that expensive either, do it though? And so and that was a recurring thing to where the drugs got bigger and harder every time. And it was because that's kind of what Johnny Cash happened, like and walk the line, you know, you walk in, they'd be doing drugs like home, let me try some of that. Um, you know. The funny part of it too, was, you know, because a lot of these even Bohemian Rhapsody, which happened way after the fact, Queen just goes boom boom boom their superstars in the movie because you don't have four, five, six, seven hours to do the actual Queen bio pick. But in walk Hard Dewey, who um is trying to make music. He starts playing and this first song he ever plays at a school talent show, the kid just get up and start dancing, like five seconds into the first song, and then a big rioter rubts like that music. The priest is upgoing that's double music. So you know, I thought the whole famale was pretty funny. I would I would give it three and a half out of five guitars. The second time around, I gave it four. Yeah, yeah, Eddie, listen, man, It's been a while since I've seen it, but I'd give it four and a half out of five because I remember loving it so much. I wonder if John c Riley was a person that they wanted to do that movie originally, because I could see Will Ferrell doing that movie, you know, and a lot of movies they don't get the main guy if they didn't write it for the main guy, or if the main guy didn't write it. So I thought John Cerley was awesome, and I think he was really singing to That's really yeah, because it sounded like his voice. It starts off and John c Riley's a kid and his little brother is there too, and this is very Johnny Cash because Johnny Cash all brother died, his brother died, was a kid, and Johnson really actually cuts him in half with the machete. He gets having fun, but they're doing all these things where they should die at the beginning of it, and they get out of it unscathed. And then they're having a machete fight at the end, and they're the covers are on a little sword fight, and then he cuts his brother in half. And then then he do like a blue song like brother Well, he goes over to the it's fresh to me, I just thought it. He goes over to the blue he goes like the gas station, like the general store, and there's a blues go over there playing in the corner, and he's like, I'm curious about that music. And the guy goes, you don't live a life you have to but to have the blues, And so he takes the guitar and he goes, well, I no, I never played guitar, but and then all of a sudden he's it's a He hits one chord and it's terrible and the guy goes, well, do you think do you fingure like this? So he puts his finger down and he goes and he's like a kid right at this he's like six, And then he starts singing a perfectly played blue song and he's like, I think I got at it. I got the blues. I killed my Brother's pretty good for your first So and the whole story is him trying to not avenge his brother's death. But he told his brother before he died he would try to be a lot because his brother was super talented as a kid. Um. And so then you follow Dewey. But except for the tiny first part. Kid John c Roley's playing every age of the kid from like fifteen he's but he says his age, well, I'm only fifteen, even though he's an adult man. That's so funny to me, the funny if you're way inside, I could see where this movie will be hilarious. I was laughing out loud on a lot of parts of Kaitlin. My girlfriend did not love it. She thought it was okay, maybe a blow okay, because she how many times she's saying this is stupid. Um, I don't think she would want to take away my joy. So at the end when it was over, she was like, that's kind of doubt. But I don't think that she you know, she doesn't work in music. She's not a big Johnny Cash fan. She hasn't seen all those biopicks, so I wasn't really meant for her. Um, what was your favorite part of the movie? Might I really thought the Bob Dylan parody stuff was pretty funny. When he like starts changing his style and start doing Bob Dylan, He's like, maybe Bob Dylan sounds like me. Yeah, you guys to a press conference because he's trying to find out who he is as an artist, and then goes to a press conference and they're they're like, hey, man, what do you say to people? Just say you just sound like Bob Dylan. He goes, what do you said? Bob Dylan wan to say, he sounds like me, and then it cuts to him and he's doing a terrible Bob Dylan impression. Obit reference things and he's like the three odd monkey and he sounds like Dylan. I don't look out the doaster. Yeah, Eddy, how long did you watch that movie when it first came out? I remember I'm such a Pearl Jam fan, and I remember that he's in it. So that's why I was like, oh, well, I have to watch this and so, I mean I watched it when it came out. But the part that always comes up but that I remember is the drug scene. I'm just like, it starts with weed and then cocaine and all it's like, you don't want this do it? At the end, they're there, what are they taking? At the very very end, he goes, no, I'm not gonna. He goes, oh viag because he's old, and he goes, you know, no temptations for me, and he walks out and the temptations are literally sinking in the hallway and they're like, I guess you, and he's like no. But that The other recurring thing is he always grabs sinks and right he pulls them off and slams it down. Right, Um, did Johnny Cash do that? And I walked the line. I think that's why they do that, right, I don't know that joke over. It's like every bathroom he goes into it, he gets manages rips to sink off the wall, and then don't they do the like, what's he doing? He's like he stakes that time to be quiet with his hands up against the wall. At the very beginning, it starts and ends like that's right, that's before he plays the show. He hads to think about his entire life. They're like Mr Cash one minute and the guy goes, I get him second. You got thinking out of life here, And that's how the whole movie starts. And it starts beginning all the way up to that moment. Before every show he's thinking about his whole life. It's even funnier talking about because you think about the great comedies of our day. It's funny you're the second, third, and fourth time because you can laugh about all the funny things with your friends. And it's probably I probably watch it again now. I think it was even funny because I would catch things. Um. Kristen Wigg is in it playing his wife, playing Johnny Cash's first wife. Basically they had all the kids. Um. And then Jenna Fisher, who plays Pham on the Office, ends up being June Carter. I don't think that was her singing though. I don't think so, because that person had a really great voice, like it really and it sounded a little different than than Jenni Fisher, Um and what was your favorite part of the movie that you can remember. My tears was to Bob Dylan. My favorite part of the movie. There were just so many parts that I would like because she would fall asleep and I would be laughing. My body could be shaking. Um. When he was trying to make the perfect song and he had hired people from every country, it's it sounds like five songs that wants being made in the recording studio. It's like the seventies. He's trying to make the perfect anthem for life, and it's like aborigines, it's like surfers, it's like a goat is doing an instrument. He's like, I'm trying to make the perfect song. He's spending all this money and he can't make the perfect song. That to me is funny because that's every artist before they get old, but after they've been young, that's right, trying to change it, trying to change it and find that right thing to get back on the map because they're not all the way off. I think there's good has more vocals on this song than I do. Man and he goes back to reunite the band at the end um. Then they go because he's getting a Lifetime Achievement award, which is why they all get back together. Um. And so he gets the part where I laughed out lot. Maybe the most was it's a very end because he's playing and then the crowd loves the song. His manager dies in the middle of the song, and then his back as a ghost on side stage with his dad and his brother. He dies, he comes back as it goes that quick you see him go. He died, and I'll said, He's like, what the crowd and he's on side stage as it goes. That was funny. And then Johnny Sorry does his song at the Lifetime achieve An award and plays in the crowd loves it and he's like, this is what life's about. Boom boom boom, and then on the bottom of the screen of freeze and goes Dewey Cox died three minutes later. That's too funny, man, it was, And then talking about it, it's even funnier to me. Did he hang out with the Beatles at one point in time? So here Elvis. First of all, Elvis was coming off the stage and like Elvis like kept karate chopping on that was a side stage funny part that. Another part was when they were coming off side stage him and as a guitar player, he was like, hey, man, let's try let's try girls tonight. Let gonna take that one do He did, and he goes, but this is my wife. He goes, Yeah, like I said, he take his wife. So that happened. But then the Beatles they're in India. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he went like on one of those trips with him and it was him and his band and the Beatles are played by If I can remember this right, Jason Schwartzman, is he one of them? He is? Hold on mean care. Paul Rudd was one of the Beatles. Jason Jason Schwartzman. Um Jack Black played Paul McCartney. Uh huh, Paul Rudd played John Lennon. Jason Schwartzman and I'm forgetting they're all known actors. Here's the other one, Justin Long, Oh, justin Long, that's right. And then Jack White was Elvis. Oh, Jack White was Elvis. Oh I didn't catch this, Hey, I didn't catch that. Oh wow, Well you know, if I'm gonna bump mine from three and a half to three and three quarters from the conversation because I'm laughing now thinking about it, and if we talked about it again, you'd probably bump it up another half. Probably I'd probably watch it again. I think it was even funnier when he's buying all the animals he's buying, you know, he buys a giraffe. I don't remember this well. He brings it. He gets a giraffe from playing it like the zoo as a gift, and so he's like, I don't want five thousands, said how much that draft? The drafts eating they have a giraffe to have a monkey because they're doing custody and only wants a monkey, and he's like, you can take the children, leave my money. The funniest part and I forgot the funniest part to me at the end. He's old, as in out of prime. He's probably fifty or so, and he's sitting there and he's broken everything in his house and he turned over the piano, he smashed, all the sinks all broken, and a kid comes up and goes, hey, Dad, because he got a bunch of kids. He goes, can we have a catch? And he's like, man, I think i'd really like to have a catch right now, and he goes, great, Dad, he goes, but if you don't, mommy ask and I hope this isn't inappropriate. What's your name again? He goes, I'm Dewey Cox Jr. They called me so uh. It was funny. It's really funny. It had small parts of really funny and a string of pretty funny. You're right and and now thinking back at it, I didn't realize that they were making fun of a bunch of different pairs or biopics and just how they work. Yes, yes, because they have to speak because they were like olways play and he isn't the one note of the song and the kids are like just the greatest song. So um, yeah, Dewey Cox Walk Hard was good. I would watch walk the Line first, Yeah, for sure, to get some reference. Yes, where does this rank on like your favorite parody movies? Because it's kind of a weird. I don't know, another parody movie like scary movie, another teen movie, stuff like that, because I mean there was like a whole series of them probably around when when the time this movie came out. I think it's kind of why I didn't do so well is because a bunch of parody movies were like trying to be like it's trying to be like scary movie, and scary movie was a parody of what scream of scream? And then they came out with like a parody of like Twilight and epic movies and all never saw any of the strings, And you're trying to make fun of them, but you're also trying to kind of return making a bad movie essentially. I think that's why it's hard for them to be successful. Sometimes the best has to be Baseball's right. I don't remember it, but it was a parody. I mean I remember a scene where they're having a sword fight to them and they're holding about their crotch whatever it is about airplane, airplane airplanes. Good never saw it. I maybe this and we can. I don't consider spinal tap, though, a parody of movies, a parody of the music at the time, which is another great one. So Mike number one, that's what's my number one? Your favorite parody of my favorite one? Just because you don't watch a lot of them, we should do like one of these a month and review a music movie. Yeah, and like, but we just get there. There are spoilers, but the movie. The movie is pretty old, but no, no, but that the whole point of it is that we're not going to try to get you to watch it. We're just kind of talking about it. Yeah, you can watch it on Netflix. It's yeah, that's where I watch it now. I saw also, is Rocketman on Netflix or something? Now? I think it's on Amazon on Amazon for free, I mean me, I mean if you have Amazon Prime. But I've never seen it, so that's definitely on my list. Pop Star, I haven't seen it. Pop Stars another one of those they say it was really good that didn't get the love it should have got then, but has become a cult classic. It's Lonely Island and it's basically a parody of Justin Bieber's life. Oh, I didn't know that supposed to be funny, I think, so, I'll google. But John c Riley, I was looking at movies from him real quick because he's really funny. But he's also done serious stuff, right, Yeah, he's not a bunch of serious. The first time I ever saw him was Days of Thunder? What was it? What was he? I saw he was in that? He was like I think in in Cold Trickles Pit Team step Brothers amazing. Yeah, it's good. Did you ever see step brother Yeah? Standing Alie was great with John c Riley, Laurel and Hardy. What it's about. It's sad and it's about their story, their life story, like a biopic of Um Laurelan, Hardy, Um Talladegan Knights obviously, Shake and Bake. I never saw that. You never saw Talent Nights, Wow, Walk Hard obviously, Wreck At Ralph? Was he Ralph? And Is it's a big movie, Guard into the Galaxy. I don't know what he was in. Then it's a hide character Chicago the Musical, but yeah, the movie, the musical, Boogie Nights, The Perfect Storm, Days of Thunder, Magnolia. He's but he's done a bunch of stuff that's just not straight ahead comedy. But I've never been kissed. Aviator the promotion. Do you know any of these movies? Aviator? Yeah? Aviator yeah, Yeah. And then Perfect Storm was good. Yeah. Jimmy Hoffa, he's bere in a bunch of freaking movies. But he's not elite. I mean, he wasn't a lead for a long time. Walk Carlo, Yeah, this was the first one. Yeah, it was great. I thought he was great, did it all? Right? Well, we just did fifteen minutes talking about a movie. What's the next one we could do? We don't have to do one a month, but I'm I want to watch pop Star. Yeah, okay, I write that down too. Just the next week, two weeks or so. Just just come to me, let me know if you finished it. And when we've all finished it, we'll talk. And you haven't seen rocket Man either, right? Oh that's interesting. Yeah, watch rocket Man. I just let's see pop Star. Pop Star. Pop Star movie says, never stop stopping. Okay, all right, it's got seventy and rotten tomatoes. Childhood friends Connor, Owen and Lawrence found fame and fortune after forming the hip hop group The Style Boys. Owen and Lawrence faded in the background when frontman Connor left the band to launch a successful solo career. Now, the egotistical singer decides to film a documentary about his life when he's still on top. When a second album flops, the cameras are to capture his whole world crashing down. Andy sam berks, that looks like could be pretty funny. It sounds it lost money, but Lonely Island's funny to me and that it is unofficially like justin Bieber. I don't know. I guess it could be all of them. I think Bieber was blowing up at this time. So you know which one I thought was really good? It came out well back with Jersey Boys. Do you ever watched Jersey Boys? Yeah? The movie is really good too, Frankie Valley, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I saw that. I saw it. Um, I'm not it's it was a Broadway play, but I saw it in Las Vegas. Is that good? Like plays like a great it's live you know all the songs. Yeah, that's what makes the movie really good too. All right, that's it. Um. I hope you enjoyed this. Probably didn't, but