Trump's Call with Putin; Gabbard Confirmed as Spy Chief
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1) President Trump speaks to Vladimir Putin with hopes of ending war in Ukraine President Donald Trump had a phone call with Russian President Vladimir Putin to start negotiating an end to the war in Ukraine, a shift from the previous US policy. The call and subsequent statements from Trump's administration have caused concern among European allies, who fear the US is giving in to Putin's demands without getting anything in return.
2) Trump's buyout offer to federal workers gets green light but may come up short About 75,000 federal employees signed up for a voluntary resignation program, falling short of the White House's goal of 5% to 10% of the 2.4 million civilian federal workforce. The resignation program, known as "Fork in the Road," closed after a federal judge lifted his order freezing the program, with any resignations received after 7:20 p.m. Washington time not being accepted.
3) The Senate confirms Tulsi Gabbard as next Director of National Intelligence Gabbard won support from key Republicans, including Senate Intelligence Committee Chairman Tom Cotton, due to her plans to slim down the organization and cut duplication. Gabbard has promised to "encourage a culture where tough questions, scrutiny and challenging of assumptions is welcome" and has defended her willingness to question US intelligence, citing her military experience and rejection of "regime-change wars".
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Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, Radio News. 0:00:10.240 --> 0:00:10.799 Good morning. 0:00:10.840 --> 0:00:13.680 I'm Nathan Hager and I'm Karen Moscow. Here are the 0:00:13.720 --> 0:00:15.160 stories we're following today. 0:00:15.360 --> 0:00:17.560 Karen, we begin with the latest efforts to end the 0:00:17.600 --> 0:00:20.639 war in Ukraine. President Trump says he has agreed to 0:00:20.760 --> 0:00:23.960 start negotiations to end the conflict in a phone call 0:00:24.040 --> 0:00:27.320 with Russian President Vladimir Putin. Here was the President, as 0:00:27.320 --> 0:00:28.520 heard on Bloomberg Radio. 0:00:29.280 --> 0:00:32.920 I'll be dealing with President Putin largely on the phone, 0:00:32.960 --> 0:00:36.479 and we ultimately expect to meet. In fact, we expect 0:00:37.320 --> 0:00:39.639 that he'll come here and I'll go there, and we're 0:00:39.640 --> 0:00:42.640 going to meet also probably in Saudi Arabia, the first 0:00:42.720 --> 0:00:44.800 time we'll meet in Saudi Arabia. Se if we get 0:00:45.159 --> 0:00:47.839 something done, but we want to end that war. That 0:00:47.880 --> 0:00:49.400 war is a disaster now. 0:00:49.400 --> 0:00:52.600 Critics say President Trump is sweeping aside three years of 0:00:52.760 --> 0:00:56.320 US policy with this call, in blind siding European allies. 0:00:56.600 --> 0:00:59.880 Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth says Trump's call with Putin is 0:01:00.200 --> 0:01:01.040 not a betrayal. 0:01:01.480 --> 0:01:02.480 Certainly not a betrayal. 0:01:03.200 --> 0:01:05.920 As I said to our allies yesterday, we recognized the 0:01:06.000 --> 0:01:09.400 incredible commitment that has been made over many years, and 0:01:09.480 --> 0:01:12.520 no country, as the President Trump has pointed out, has 0:01:12.560 --> 0:01:13.600 many larger commitment. 0:01:14.000 --> 0:01:17.120 Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth spoke earlier in Brussels. 0:01:17.800 --> 0:01:21.040 Meanwhile, Nathan, the President's effort to shrink this size the 0:01:21.040 --> 0:01:24.360 federal government continues, but is so called buyout offered to 0:01:24.440 --> 0:01:28.039 federal workers has fallen short, and Bloomberg's John Tucker joins 0:01:28.120 --> 0:01:29.440 us this morning with the details. 0:01:29.520 --> 0:01:31.160 John, good morning, Yeah, good morning, Karen. 0:01:31.280 --> 0:01:33.880 Only seventy five thousand federal employees signed up for the 0:01:33.959 --> 0:01:37.840 voluntary resignation program, so that makes up about three percent 0:01:38.120 --> 0:01:41.520 of the civilian federal workforce. The White House had previously 0:01:41.600 --> 0:01:43.920 set the goal at five to ten percent. Well, this 0:01:44.080 --> 0:01:47.440 now increases the likelihood of deeper mass firings. 0:01:47.840 --> 0:01:47.960 You know. 0:01:47.960 --> 0:01:50.880 An executive order signed earlier this week, as Elon Musk 0:01:50.880 --> 0:01:54.880 stood alongside him, President Trump ordered agency heads to promptly 0:01:55.000 --> 0:02:00.400 undertake preparations to initiate large scale reductions in forces. Has 0:02:00.440 --> 0:02:02.800 been the driving force behind the effort to reduce the 0:02:02.840 --> 0:02:06.440 size of government through a so called Department of Government Efficiency, 0:02:06.800 --> 0:02:09.600 and he just spoke about the effort at the annual 0:02:09.680 --> 0:02:10.840 World Government Summit. 0:02:11.520 --> 0:02:13.679 It's kind of like if they're leaving a weed. 0:02:13.800 --> 0:02:16.639 If you don't remove the roots of the weed, then 0:02:16.760 --> 0:02:18.400 it's easy for the weed to grow back. But if 0:02:18.440 --> 0:02:19.480 you remove the reach roots of. 0:02:19.440 --> 0:02:22.000 The weed, it doesn't stop weeds from ever going back, 0:02:22.000 --> 0:02:22.920 but it makes it harder. 0:02:23.240 --> 0:02:26.280 A US district judge in Boston did clear the way 0:02:26.360 --> 0:02:28.760 for the buyouts of the federal workers, ruling yesterday that 0:02:28.880 --> 0:02:32.520 their unions don't have legal standing to sue. You knoww 0:02:32.600 --> 0:02:34.280 York on John Tucker Bloomberg Radio. 0:02:34.440 --> 0:02:34.959 Thanks John. 0:02:35.000 --> 0:02:37.680 While the President moves ahead with shrinking the government, one 0:02:37.800 --> 0:02:40.720 major move is on hold for now. A federal judge 0:02:40.800 --> 0:02:43.840 in Washington, DC has blocked the president from removing the 0:02:43.919 --> 0:02:47.880 head of the independent agency that protects government whistleblowers. The 0:02:47.960 --> 0:02:51.280 administration did not give a reason for firing Hampton Dellinger 0:02:51.360 --> 0:02:53.919 as head of the Office of Special Counsel, but in 0:02:54.000 --> 0:02:57.240 a temporary restraining order, US District Judge Amy Berman Jackson 0:02:57.280 --> 0:03:00.880 said the move plainly goes against US law. The Justice 0:03:00.919 --> 0:03:01.800 Department says. 0:03:01.680 --> 0:03:03.800 It will appeal later today, Nathan. 0:03:03.880 --> 0:03:06.120 The Senate is set to vote on confirming Robert F. 0:03:06.200 --> 0:03:09.639 Kennedy Junior as Secretary of Health and Human Services. The 0:03:09.720 --> 0:03:11.799 seventy one year old is expected to pass through the 0:03:11.840 --> 0:03:15.799 full Senate despite concerns some Republicans have raised about his 0:03:16.000 --> 0:03:20.320 views on vaccines, but Republican Senator and doctor Bill Cassidy 0:03:20.560 --> 0:03:22.960 says his worries have been put to rest. 0:03:23.440 --> 0:03:24.240 Mister Kennedy and. 0:03:24.280 --> 0:03:28.119 The administration reached out seeking to reassure me regarding their 0:03:28.240 --> 0:03:33.640 commitment to protecting the public health benefit of vaccination. 0:03:34.120 --> 0:03:36.960 Senator Cassidy spoken the Senate floor last week. 0:03:37.080 --> 0:03:37.480 Robert F. 0:03:37.560 --> 0:03:40.480 Kennedy, Junior's confirmation would place him in charge of one 0:03:40.560 --> 0:03:44.880 point seven trillion dollars in spending on vaccines, food safety, 0:03:45.000 --> 0:03:47.200 and government health insurance programs ILL. 0:03:47.280 --> 0:03:50.000 Meanwhile, Karen Telsey Gabbert has been sworn in as Director 0:03:50.040 --> 0:03:53.280 of National Intelligence after she won Senate confirmation in a 0:03:53.400 --> 0:03:56.800 mostly party line vote. Gabbart is promising to get right 0:03:56.920 --> 0:03:57.240 to work. 0:03:57.880 --> 0:04:03.200 Unfortunately, the America and people have very little trust in 0:04:03.320 --> 0:04:06.880 the intelligence community, largely because they've seen the weaponization and 0:04:07.440 --> 0:04:13.320 politicization of an entity that is supposed to be purely 0:04:13.400 --> 0:04:15.480 focused on ensuring our national security. 0:04:15.720 --> 0:04:19.160 Tulsea Gabbert didn't specify how US intelligence has been weaponized 0:04:19.279 --> 0:04:22.360 or what changes she might make. Her office also says 0:04:22.400 --> 0:04:25.279 she plans to attend the Munich Security Conference this weekend. 0:04:25.720 --> 0:04:28.040 We turned to the markets now, Nathan and earnings are 0:04:28.080 --> 0:04:30.920 in focus this morning. In Europe, shares of Barclays or 0:04:31.000 --> 0:04:35.080 down five percent. The British bank's results did beat estimates, 0:04:35.120 --> 0:04:38.960 but the firm leftist guidance for next year unchanged. Barclay's 0:04:39.160 --> 0:04:42.839 CEO cs VN Kada Krishnan says he expects to benefit 0:04:42.920 --> 0:04:45.480 from a loosening of UK regulations. 0:04:46.000 --> 0:04:49.680 I expect that you will see some rebalancing, but you know, 0:04:49.800 --> 0:04:52.560 I should say that we want the rebalancing in the 0:04:52.720 --> 0:04:55.599 context of strongly regulated markets. 0:04:56.040 --> 0:04:57.640 We think all the major. 0:04:57.440 --> 0:05:01.600 Banks as included a good a of a well regulated 0:05:01.680 --> 0:05:04.720 financial system. It's what makes London great and so there 0:05:04.720 --> 0:05:07.000 should be some rebalancing, but in the context of a 0:05:07.080 --> 0:05:08.520 well regulated financial system. 0:05:08.960 --> 0:05:12.680 Barclay CEO cs and Katakrishnan says traders turned in their 0:05:12.760 --> 0:05:15.880 best fourth quarter performance in at least a decade. As 0:05:15.960 --> 0:05:20.000 President Trump's election spurred volatility across asset classes. 0:05:20.400 --> 0:05:23.599 In Asia, Cairen, shares of Ali Baba gained almost three percent. 0:05:23.680 --> 0:05:27.200 The e Commerce Giants chairman Joe Sai has confirmed Apple's 0:05:27.279 --> 0:05:31.920 iPhones will use his firm's AI technology. China is Apple's 0:05:31.960 --> 0:05:34.880 most important market after the US. It's the biggest market 0:05:34.960 --> 0:05:38.440 in the world for smartphones, computing, and artificial intelligence. 0:05:38.760 --> 0:05:41.120 We'll back here on the US. Nathan shares of Cisco 0:05:41.320 --> 0:05:44.120 searching more than six percent, the country's largest seller of 0:05:44.200 --> 0:05:46.960 networking gear, gave an up eat sales forecast for the 0:05:47.040 --> 0:05:50.080 current quarter. Cisco was held by companies spending more on 0:05:50.200 --> 0:05:53.320 infrastructure to take advantage of AI technology. 0:05:53.720 --> 0:05:55.960 On the flip side, care and shares of Reddit are 0:05:56.160 --> 0:05:59.440 down fourteen and a half percent. User growth at the 0:05:59.480 --> 0:06:02.360 social netw working platform missed Wall Street estimates for the 0:06:02.440 --> 0:06:06.120 fourth quarter. Reddit's blaming a change in Google's algorithm that 0:06:06.240 --> 0:06:09.600 impacted search traffic. Now, despite this morning's law says Reddit 0:06:09.760 --> 0:06:13.159 stock has increased more than sixfold since it went public 0:06:13.279 --> 0:06:13.840 last March. 0:06:14.360 --> 0:06:18.719 And finally, Nathan's officially over. Honda and Nissan have formally 0:06:18.920 --> 0:06:22.200 ended negotiations to combine. It brings a swift end to 0:06:22.279 --> 0:06:24.360 a partnership that would have created one of the world's 0:06:24.400 --> 0:06:27.479 biggest automakers. Still, both companies say they will continue their 0:06:27.520 --> 0:06:31.679 strategic partnership with Mitsubishi and collaborate on in house development 0:06:31.760 --> 0:06:39.279 of batteries, autonomous driving software and electric vehicle technology. Time 0:06:39.320 --> 0:06:40.760 now for a look at some of the other stories 0:06:40.800 --> 0:06:42.520 making news in New York and around the world, and 0:06:42.600 --> 0:06:44.479 for that we're joined by Bloomberg's Michael Barr. 0:06:44.600 --> 0:06:47.640 Michael, Good morning, Good morning, Karen. The Trump administration is 0:06:47.720 --> 0:06:51.000 suing New York over a twenty nineteen law that allows 0:06:51.080 --> 0:06:55.560 undocumented immigrants to obtain state identification while shielding their data 0:06:55.640 --> 0:06:59.040 from federal authorities. The lawsuit seeks to overturn the green 0:06:59.160 --> 0:07:03.000 light law that prohibit police officers during traffic stops to 0:07:03.120 --> 0:07:06.800 ask for immigration status. Attorney General Pam Bondi. 0:07:06.880 --> 0:07:12.560 New York has chosen to prioritize illegal aliens over American citizens. 0:07:13.120 --> 0:07:14.920 It stops, It stops today. 0:07:15.720 --> 0:07:19.640 New York Governor Kathy Hokul and Attorney General Letitia James 0:07:19.760 --> 0:07:23.520 have responded, defending the law and accusing the Trump administration 0:07:23.640 --> 0:07:27.480 of seeking to access New Yorker's data without a judicial warrant. 0:07:28.040 --> 0:07:31.520 New York Mayor Eric Adams is facing pushback over a 0:07:31.640 --> 0:07:36.040 planned visit today with Trump Borderzar Tom Homan. City and 0:07:36.160 --> 0:07:39.080 union leaders are accusing the mayor of selling out to 0:07:39.160 --> 0:07:43.080 get his corruption case dismissed by Trump's Justice Department. A 0:07:43.160 --> 0:07:47.400 recent directive from the mayor instructs municipal employees to allow 0:07:47.520 --> 0:07:51.200 ice agents into city buildings if they fear for their safety. 0:07:51.560 --> 0:07:54.640 Mayor Adams, during a city event, is standing by his work. 0:07:55.120 --> 0:07:57.520 Look at what I have done, how I have recovered 0:07:57.560 --> 0:08:01.960 the city, how we have for the safety of everyone 0:08:02.000 --> 0:08:05.120 in our care. There's nothing going to change with that. 0:08:05.360 --> 0:08:08.480 There's a level of consistency that we have accomplished. 0:08:08.520 --> 0:08:09.640 Are we going to continue to do that? 0:08:10.360 --> 0:08:13.960 Meanwhile, Mayor Adams is reportedly exploring the idea of possibly 0:08:14.080 --> 0:08:18.440 running in the spring Republican primary. The New York Times reports, 0:08:18.480 --> 0:08:22.240 according to a GOP official, Adams, a Democrat, has privately 0:08:22.480 --> 0:08:26.200 weighed for weeks whether to change is party affiliation or 0:08:26.280 --> 0:08:28.520 seek a waiver to run in both the Democratic and 0:08:28.640 --> 0:08:39.040 Republican primaries. In Washington, d C, parents, educators, community leaders, 0:08:39.080 --> 0:08:42.800 and elected officials gathered on the Capitol grounds to protest 0:08:42.880 --> 0:08:47.280 Department of Education cuts proposed by President Trump. They also 0:08:47.400 --> 0:08:51.360 protested student civil rights protections that have been curtailed or 0:08:51.400 --> 0:08:55.400 eliminated by Trump's executive orders. Global News twenty four hours 0:08:55.440 --> 0:08:58.320 a day and whenever you want it with the Bloomberg News. 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I'm Nathan Hager. 0:11:19.640 --> 0:11:23.160 President Donald Trump is reversing three years of US policy 0:11:23.280 --> 0:11:25.559 on the war in Ukraine in a phone call with 0:11:25.720 --> 0:11:29.640 Russian President Vladimir Putin. President says he has agreed to 0:11:29.720 --> 0:11:32.560 begin negotiating an end to the war with Russia's leader, 0:11:32.840 --> 0:11:36.600 and it's left European allies reeling, but Trump says it'll 0:11:36.640 --> 0:11:37.280 all work out. 0:11:37.720 --> 0:11:40.240 I think we're on the way to getting peace. I 0:11:40.320 --> 0:11:45.640 think President Putin wants peace and President Zelenski wants peace. 0:11:45.880 --> 0:11:48.240 And that was the President speaking from the Oval Office. 0:11:48.320 --> 0:11:51.079 Let's bring in Bloomberg News Senior editor Bill Ferries for 0:11:51.240 --> 0:11:53.719 war on this. Of course, Bill, there had been speculation 0:11:53.880 --> 0:11:56.880 almost from the time President Trump was inaugurated that there 0:11:56.960 --> 0:12:00.360 may be some kind of call between himself and the 0:12:00.440 --> 0:12:03.199 Russian president. Now it seems to be unfolding in a 0:12:03.240 --> 0:12:06.760 way that is really worrying European allies. 0:12:06.800 --> 0:12:11.199 Now good morning, Good morning, Nathan. Yeah, that's exactly right. 0:12:11.679 --> 0:12:15.680 President Trump announcing that he had this call that wasn't 0:12:15.720 --> 0:12:18.199 scheduled in advanced publicly at least, that he had this 0:12:18.320 --> 0:12:19.560 call with Vladimir Putin. 0:12:20.120 --> 0:12:21.559 He announced it on social media. 0:12:22.200 --> 0:12:24.800 Of course, there's a lot of European leaders and defense 0:12:24.880 --> 0:12:28.200 officials gathered in Munich for a security conference. They were 0:12:28.280 --> 0:12:31.719 all taken very much by surprise. In the past, in 0:12:31.800 --> 0:12:34.800 these kind of situations, a US president would often reach 0:12:34.880 --> 0:12:36.400 out to the allies to talk to. 0:12:36.440 --> 0:12:39.439 Them, consult with them ahead of a call like that. 0:12:40.000 --> 0:12:42.360 But President Trump coming out and saying that he and 0:12:42.480 --> 0:12:46.760 Vladimir Putin agreed to begin peace talks over the conflict 0:12:46.880 --> 0:12:50.880 in Ukraine. He's assigned a team that includes Secretary of 0:12:50.880 --> 0:12:54.800 State Marco Rubio and Director of the CIA John Ratcliffe 0:12:55.400 --> 0:12:59.040 to begin some of those talks. And then he said 0:12:59.120 --> 0:13:03.480 that he would be calling Ukrainian President Baltimore Zelenski to 0:13:03.800 --> 0:13:08.079 inform him of the call, so letting the world know, 0:13:08.360 --> 0:13:12.000 and then calling Zelenski to talk to him about the 0:13:12.080 --> 0:13:16.520 substance of the conversation. So very a big change from 0:13:16.559 --> 0:13:21.559 previous administration and from the European policy of no talks 0:13:21.600 --> 0:13:24.000 about Ukraine without Ukraine. 0:13:24.840 --> 0:13:26.040 So we'll see where this goes. 0:13:26.160 --> 0:13:28.599 But Europe definitely reeling from this latest move by the 0:13:28.640 --> 0:13:30.080 Trump administration. 0:13:29.920 --> 0:13:32.079 And to that point, Bill, from the comments that we've 0:13:32.160 --> 0:13:37.319 heard from Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth about Ukraine's aspiration to 0:13:37.400 --> 0:13:43.200 join NATO being unrealistic and the pre twenty fourteen borders 0:13:43.360 --> 0:13:46.840 not being realistic as well, it seems like the beginning 0:13:46.960 --> 0:13:50.480 of the negotiating position for Ukraine is pretty difficult. 0:13:52.120 --> 0:13:52.840 Yeah, exactly. 0:13:53.080 --> 0:13:56.120 I think that's been the criticism of this very public approach, 0:13:56.240 --> 0:14:01.079 with Defense Secretary Hegseth saying Ukraine's members in NATO's not 0:14:01.200 --> 0:14:05.160 a realistic goal, and then as you mentioned, saying that 0:14:05.320 --> 0:14:08.720 basically going back to a pre twenty fourteen world, which 0:14:08.800 --> 0:14:14.280 is when Russian troops invaded and took over Ukrainian Crimea, 0:14:15.320 --> 0:14:17.880 saying that that's really not going to be probably part 0:14:17.920 --> 0:14:22.440 of it, so immediately suggesting that Russia will probably get 0:14:22.520 --> 0:14:25.360 to hold on to quite a bit of territory. So 0:14:26.320 --> 0:14:28.080 I think a lot of people are seeing that is 0:14:28.320 --> 0:14:33.400 perhaps undercutting Ukraine's position. Ukraine does have a swath or 0:14:33.600 --> 0:14:36.800 a small piece of Russia as well, so there's a 0:14:36.960 --> 0:14:41.920 potential talk about trading territory for territory, but it's definitely, 0:14:42.040 --> 0:14:45.040 you know, it's perhaps not surprising, a very different approach 0:14:45.080 --> 0:14:47.480 from what we've seen the last three years from the US. 0:14:47.600 --> 0:14:49.880 And obviously we're seeing a very different approach when it 0:14:49.960 --> 0:14:54.560 comes to the federal government. Back in Washington, the President 0:14:54.680 --> 0:14:58.280 determined to shrink the size of the federal workforce. It 0:14:58.320 --> 0:15:01.960 seems like this buyout has fallen short of the White 0:15:02.000 --> 0:15:04.400 House goals in our last minute bill. What does that 0:15:04.640 --> 0:15:09.080 mean potentially for federal employees who didn't take the deferred 0:15:09.120 --> 0:15:10.280 resignation offer. 0:15:11.240 --> 0:15:13.520 Well, leaves them in a lot of uncertainty. 0:15:13.600 --> 0:15:16.760 It looks like about seventy five thousand federal employees did 0:15:16.960 --> 0:15:20.160 opt in for this voluntary resignation program to get paid 0:15:20.200 --> 0:15:24.320 through September. That is perhaps about three percent of the 0:15:24.560 --> 0:15:28.000 civilian federal workforce. The White House wanted something more like 0:15:28.080 --> 0:15:31.120 five to ten percent. There are reports out there in 0:15:31.360 --> 0:15:34.840 Washington Post New York Times about some agencies like GSA 0:15:35.080 --> 0:15:39.120 already starting to notify some workers of layoffs. We'll have 0:15:39.280 --> 0:15:41.680 to see how far they're able to go. 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