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00:00:00
Speaker 1: This is This is a tip that everybody else is like, why don't we have this chip? We want this too, you know. They astros are like.

00:00:14
Speaker 2: Frasier Friday Baby, And it is the last show before we are all in at l for All Star Week. Very excited. And by the way, Monday is a pretty big night. It's it's Derby night. It's where this thing gets all polished up.

00:00:28
Speaker 3: It's a little work.

00:00:29
Speaker 4: Right now, it's getting a little tainted. But I got a guy, you got a guy perfect. It's an in vintage for him right now. You're your todfather on the call on Monday.

00:00:39
Speaker 3: Yes, for the big Derby.

00:00:41
Speaker 2: And Eric Kratz is going to be on the call for his normal job feul Territory along with me and mister Piersinski. We can show them the little graphic that we've got for everyone to stop by in Atlanta Truest Community Corner. It's like a fan zone right in the battery, right in the thick of things. Like Tuesday, I think the parade's going right past it Monday, obviously we're right near the ballpark. It's all presented by Truist. We're super pumped that they're hosting us there so you can come watch the show live, you can be part of the show. We're gonna have a microphone and do a Q and A segment, which is pretty cool because obviously we don't usually do that on the show usually take the comments. We don't know what people are gonna say, but we're gonna roll with it for the TV and the YouTube crowd and everything else. Right next to the ballpark, okay, and also the space itself is going to be a nineties style setup, so they built it like a nineteen nineties clubhouse to be an ode to the Great Braves nineties teams in honor of you know, the Chippers and the Maddoxes and Smoltz and Glavin and all that, and some of those big boys are going to be there. So the guest list I see here Todd Father, includes Fred McGriff, Andrew Jones, David Justice, Chipper Jones, and they're going to support local businesses there. So they're open at noon e sturing each day starting tomorrow, Saturday to Tuesday, they'll have that truest Community Corner open Saturday to Tuesday, open at noon each day, and you'll have our show Monday Tuesday one to three Eastern Live crats are gonna get to meet all of your fans.

00:02:16
Speaker 1: Wow, come on, people come down and say hi, let me bring a fan too. It's gonna be hot. It's gonna be hot.

00:02:24
Speaker 2: Not inside. That's the beauty of it. We got inside space.

00:02:27
Speaker 1: Baby, we'll be sweating like Jerks and Profar.

00:02:34
Speaker 4: There used to be somebody else's name. Now it's the most recent name. He always takes the most recent guy. I got you, I gotcha, all right, all right, so we're excited.

00:02:42
Speaker 2: Any questions for us, you know, we're to ask us chat bcc ig wherever if you have questions about how to show up, what time, all of that. All right, let's charge big bounce back series for the Bronx Bombers. They sweep the Mariners. They were gotting no hit and then all of a sudden they figured out that bullpen including Andre's munos, little tip action going on. It was incredible what happened.

00:03:09
Speaker 4: Listen, This wasn't the first time I've seen the the arm movement there at second base, Like I I've.

00:03:15
Speaker 3: Never seen that before.

00:03:16
Speaker 4: Usually, when you have a tip, like you let one arm hang, you let the right arm hang, you touch your helmet you know, you stand still, and they were they were like, let's let let it, let it be known.

00:03:27
Speaker 3: It was late too.

00:03:30
Speaker 4: I don't know what you're do in that situation because they're not showing signs, you know, so it's like he must be getting it from behind. I still don't know how they found it. I didn't really look into it that much. But you know, those arms are moving at second base and oh god, it's incredible.

00:03:47
Speaker 2: Have you seen that?

00:03:49
Speaker 3: No, I've never seen that.

00:03:50
Speaker 2: Like because usually okay, just to explain to people, so you've got who is that on that on that call at second base?

00:03:56
Speaker 3: That was Grisham, so trank.

00:03:58
Speaker 2: Grisham's that second base crat and he is not being subtle to indicate to the batter what pitch is being thrown by Andres Munos. I mean they're doing it almost like you're looking for someone in the crowd and you're like, hey, I'm over here. Usually it's like some very subtle sign right that you get to your teammate to not make it obvious. So what did you think of this approach? And do you think this could be more common in the game where players are just like screwed. I don't care I'm just gonna tell the guy what I know.

00:04:29
Speaker 1: Well, who did it before? Was that Patrick Bailey did it to Pavetta. I'm not sure who was at second, but he was like he was just like he was just like looking over over his like and then he would he would signal. So I don't. I don't. That's why when I watched it live and I know I've read different things about it, and I'm still not like for me, it's not conclusive what they were doing or what they saw exactly, because somebody was saying that you know, they were getting information from first two they could see it, but they said like in in game. I told my son, I was like, why would they be that obvious? Like why would you have it? And you're that obvious? Except that it was so linked. So if maybe the first baseman because if you look, Munnos had his glove like this and he was really tucked. Obviously over there is the second baseman. He was really tucked, but I think it was farther back here. So now behind me is the runner on first. So if it's a runner on first and a runner on second, could the runner on first be relaying it to the runner on second, who then is relaying it to the hitter because with lefties up it's hard for them. You can't see what a guy on first is doing. But if you can see it from first because they're looking over the shoulder, possibly that's where I was at. But I mean Muon was digging deep in there. As a catcher, you can't do anything. You're sitting there like, oh crap. They totally have the pitches and he's not throwing strikes. It's like a double whammie. I can't. It's not like we can change our signs.

00:06:15
Speaker 3: He was.

00:06:16
Speaker 1: He was up a creek right there.

00:06:17
Speaker 2: You can change pictures.

00:06:19
Speaker 4: Yeah, you can change pictures. You can, you know, throw one up and in let them know that. They're not happy about that. But also I think with Kratz, I like your idea, but you got to be like split second fast on all that stuff. I think guys are at second base they found something in, you know, in their chats before the game, the meetings. Hey, guys, if you're at second base, look where his hand, his positioning goes.

00:06:43
Speaker 3: Give him the sign.

00:06:44
Speaker 4: I mean, at the end of the day, you can't see what the catcher's give him because he's not given a sign, so might as well be not as discreet. Let the world know, even if it's late, so then you could slow down or speed up. But the runner at second base they had something. They've had something on a couple guys like that, and now you know, you're starting to see it a lot more. They're trying, they're they're flying away, fly away. I don't know what you call that thing, but it worked, It worked, and they won the game. So you take whatever you can get.

00:07:15
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00:07:15
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00:08:16
Speaker 1: Todd, you and I have been in pregame meetings. We've been in pregame meetings with the Yankees. I'm not gonna blow up their spot. But the guys who are doing that, the guys who are looking for tips on pitchers, whether it's from second, whether it's from you know, how they set or it's a double set, their foot movement, anything, they have their own special section in the Hitters meeting, and you've seen it, Todd, Like these guys they get a ton of stuff. Is it all? Some of it's kind of like what do you say and guard he would always be like, I see it, Yep, I totally see it. I'm like, I don't see it. You're not playing.

00:09:02
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it's everywhere.

00:09:03
Speaker 4: If they if they find something, they're gonna have a video on it, and it's up to you as a player to either take it serious or want to do it, and if not, you move on and get ready to hit the baseball.

00:09:13
Speaker 2: Would they be like, you see when it's slider, his glove is held at a sixty eight degree angle instead of sixty seven.

00:09:20
Speaker 4: It would it would have to be like here to hear like something so obvious. And I think it was that obviously. If I was to look back and take like an hour to kind of dissect what he was doing, Kratzy, you're really good at it too, Like it would it seems like it wouldn't take that long because it looked really really something visible because they were they were doing it a lot.

00:09:41
Speaker 1: So and if I was, you know, there's a lot of things. Pictures, you know, some pictures have some pictures have this thing on their on their glove for a reason because their finger guys, so they put their finger in there. Now you can't see when that finger moves where if it's above there, you can see where that finger moves because they're digging for a different pitch. Or some guys I would even tell some pitchers like they have their name, they have their name right there. Well when they come set, if you see their name tilted, oh, now it's a lot easier. Or if you don't see their name, you know, it turns out the screen. There's so many different things, and when you have people dedicated to do that, you find it and look what it did. I mean, I'm just knew this is an All star. He's got a one and a half era below one whip on the season, like this is this is a tip that everybody else is like, why don't we have this tip? We want this too, you know the astros are like it doesn't matter.

00:10:47
Speaker 2: Well, everyone's gonna be looking obviously, and now he has to do his homework and try and figure out what it was and fix it because yeah, like you mentioned Kratz and there's there was a good article in the Athletic talking about how yet not first but second base. You know, guys at both spots were indicating when they knew he was going to throw a slider, and that's where you were getting the very obvious arms in the air. Brendan Coody and Chris Kershner by the way, putting that article together also, I mean, when it's that obvious, the Mariners are on top of it too, you know. Kyle Riley's like, obviously they weren't making it very discreet when he was tipping the slider in the ninth and the Yankees were being no hit through seven innings, Brian wu All Star looking like a stud, and then they cracked the bullpen. It started with Matt Brash and then Andres Munos. So here's my follow up, Todd father Andres Munos is I don't know, probably twenty eight or something. I'll look it up in a second. Yep, he's got a long career left to go. Why would you make it so obvious that we all know it's a tip that he has to fix, versus making it super super discreet. And this is a team that you could battle for years with their closer and we might have been able to look at the Yanks. I mean, like for some reason, the Yanks they must have something. They always get him, but we don't know. But we don't know. Maybe they just have good success against him. They literally just told the world this guy's giving away a slider and now he's gonna fix it. It's major League Baseball.

00:12:13
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know pictures are They're accustomed to doing their little quirks, their little things.

00:12:19
Speaker 3: It's just a simple adjustment.

00:12:20
Speaker 4: I mean, whatever he wants to do, what he wants to come set here each time, or he wants to bring it closer to his.

00:12:27
Speaker 2: Chest, why did they give it away? So this is my question, why did he give it the Yanks? Like, do you guys does the other team on? No, no, no, I know that, But I'm saying, like, what if what if you did? Like when there are things that don't get a little what if you just did one of these things? And then wait, what if it's the Yanks and the Mariners meeting up in the playoffs this year and they could have smacked him one or two more times without him noticing. Why did they make it so damn obvious? Isn't that the reason? Why make it subtle? Like when you guys would see a tip right and there's a guy at second that is giving the signs waight. Most of the time, I'm for the average person watching or even for a team they don't know, because that's what signs are for. Why did they do this and say, hey, this is the only time we're ever going to be able to smash Munos in this very way.

00:13:11
Speaker 3: I don't know. That's a really good question. I'm not sure. I'm not sure.

00:13:15
Speaker 2: A season game.

00:13:17
Speaker 1: I need you to choose. I need you to choose. It's one of two things. Either Belly who else out there? Belly, Domiguez, and Grisham were the three guys that were on second. Either they were all so beamed out, so caffeinated out that they were just like, I don't care, we got it. Or maybe everybody's deeked. Maybe everybody including the quote Yankee source that somebody said was tipping and they didn't have anything, but they know that pitchers, catchers, everybody's paranoid about giving a tip away and they're all laughing at everybody, including foul Territory because we didn't have anything. Dude's nasty just wasn't throwing strikes.

00:14:04
Speaker 2: Wait, so you think he doesn't have anything, and then they're just doing that to mess with him because the season series is over, right, they played each other in two series already, So the next time they would match up would be in the playoffs. That's my thing is I guess I get it if they don't have something, but it seems like they did. And if they do that, why would you do that? This is a good team, they might play them in the playoffs.

00:14:26
Speaker 4: This isn't the first time they've done it either. I've seen it a couple of times.

00:14:29
Speaker 2: Where they've made it. Obviously, ye, why would you do that?

00:14:32
Speaker 3: Maybe you actually know. Maybe they're just trying to get in the head.

00:14:36
Speaker 2: That I like see that. I like, right Kratz, if you're facing a closer who you just cannot beat.

00:14:42
Speaker 1: Right.

00:14:42
Speaker 2: So let's say the Yanks are facing Yan Durant. I don't know if they have good numbers or not against him specifically some of their big boys. But let's say they're facing him, right, and they just start doing this, and then they have a good inning. They're gonna be like, guys, we got to switch something. They're honest. I like that game some ship.

00:14:57
Speaker 1: See I would be if you're telling me which side of the argument I'm on, I'm on that side. Wow, I'm on that side of the argument. And in fact, I will reach out to somebody to see if I'm right or wrong, because he's probably watching the show.

00:15:15
Speaker 2: Okay, that's crazy to me. That's the one other part I wanted to get to. I probably should have brought it up sooner. But if I've got something, I'm not telling you.

00:15:24
Speaker 3: This is.

00:15:25
Speaker 2: This is what AJ says on the show all the time. He said that guys are friends with guys in the league, and sometimes they won't even tell them their tip until their career is over because they'll smash them. Right. You might have a buddy in the division and you pitched with him in the or he pitched in the past and he was on your team, but now he's somewhere else, and then the team has a tip, and then post career, the friend will be like, yeah, you had a tip, by the way, and the dude it's like, are you serious on your friend and he's like, yeah, but you're And I'm a filly man.

00:15:52
Speaker 3: It's tough. We'll see what happened.

00:15:53
Speaker 2: That's spy games right there. I like it all right, So to be continued perhaps, And I hope that the Yankees meet up with the Mariners in the playoffs, so that'd be a nice little matchup. How you doing, Hey, a little more news for the Yanks. Clark Schmidt is having his Tommy John surgery today. I mean most surgeries in the morning, so he probably already had it. Sucks for him, of course, and for the Yanks and their rotation depth. But we had talked about the news I think a couple of days ago, and usually you get this done as quick as possible because you want to try and get them back as soon as possible. But realistically, Kratz, it's the few day difference doesn't really matter. He's not coming back until twenty twenty seven.

00:16:32
Speaker 1: No, we might have this discussion with Brandon Woodruff. Maybe the few days does matter. Maybe maybe it matters. He doesn't. He gets it in the morning today, he doesn't to wait till the weekend. Does that extra three day to me? In surgery and rehab, every day matters, but well as big wu he just went through. He just went through a big rehab. But I doubt we see him next year.

00:16:57
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's July and the timetable. Is this his first?

00:17:00
Speaker 1: For a second, I don't know that he had one before. Okay, sure, I don't remember him having one before.

00:17:06
Speaker 2: He's first, and it's not an internal brace. It's I think fourteen to sixteen months. It's that long, I think so.

00:17:13
Speaker 1: So now they're taking it that long.

00:17:15
Speaker 2: Yes, right, So if it's let's say the fourteen months, Okay, we're in July. That takes you to the end of the season.

00:17:23
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, No, you're not playing no rehab.

00:17:26
Speaker 2: You're gonna come back September twentieth. I mean, what do we doing? Aj We're in Vegas right now and I have not had a lot of time to eat during the day. No, what could we do?

00:17:38
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00:19:12
Speaker 4: You're going to the big oh man, it's like the modern day Jeff Kent. The guy hits homers, he runs, and he's a beast, gets on base all the time here. So this is fantastic for a Houston Astro team that's doing pretty darn good right now. They're coming on strong and it just seems like when they're out of the woods, all of a sudden, boom, something just clicks again. They go on to free of beating very good teams left and right, like the Dodgers for one, and this is another breath of fresh air. It's like having a second or third win right now for this team, another key cog that you know should help them along the way getting into the playoffs.

00:19:47
Speaker 2: No, you're a Don Alvarez for a good chunk of the season at this point, and yet the team is humming there in first place. Jose Al two vay has been a little bit Dah's a little bit of second base. Obviously outfield was an inter experiments, not for everybody, but it still is. Yeah, but this is the guy. I mean, they're hoping this is their second basement for the next ten years. With's matocrats, a lot of punch outs, a lot of punch outs, in the bushes.

00:20:13
Speaker 1: I get it, you know, I think his walk ray is I think he's got like fifty walks in like three hundred and thirty plate appearances. It's almost had one hundred punchouts already. I get it. He's got ten dangers, you know, it's not like a huge number of dangers per plate appearance. But I just punch outs in the minor leagues, especially now with the way the Triple A pitching is, like the gap between Triple A pitching and big LEA pitching is expanding. You're coming to the big leagues, You're it's you can't. You can't run away from strikeouts. I've seen very few people go to the big leagues and strike out less. It's usually some type of uptick. So it'll be interesting to see. But he clearly controls the strike zone. Well it's just some kind of swing and miss or I doubt it's chased because he walks quite a bit. So we'll see.

00:21:06
Speaker 4: There's an adjustment. And always people always talk about I'm not sticking up for him. I agree with you on the strikeout thing. It's just going to lead to more. But there's an adjustment that's going to have to be made as you go up there. Yeah, is he ready? Of course he's ready. But it is a different ballgame in the major leagues. These guys are crafty, they know what to throw. They know they'll throw three in a row in a spot that you know it was a ball and one of the you chase one of them, they got you by the hook.

00:21:33
Speaker 3: So again it's going to be an adjustment.

00:21:35
Speaker 4: But this guy deserves to be up there, and you know, I can't wait to see what he does.

00:21:41
Speaker 2: So he was a guest on Crush City Territory with Chandler Rome. I think it was a couple months back. We had a little clip from them talking about draft night.

00:21:51
Speaker 6: What's it like, you know, growing up in the Houston area and then finding out like, oh, the local team is going to draft me. You mentioned, you know, wanting family and friends to see you. Like what's going through your head on draft night?

00:22:05
Speaker 2: Like that?

00:22:07
Speaker 7: At the beginning, like my range was like twenty eight to fifty four, so like I didn't really have my hopes on any place, Like it was like whoever drafts me is, Like that's all I wanted was to get drafted. It didn't really like it wasn't really a team or whatever because like, you don't know, and dude, when it happened, it was just like I couldn't even put in the words.

00:22:40
Speaker 2: It was crazy.

00:22:42
Speaker 7: Just have like my family and like my best friends here.

00:22:44
Speaker 2: Just it was great.

00:22:46
Speaker 7: It was so much fun, just like to be celebrated and it was a lot of fun.

00:22:51
Speaker 2: I still can't really put into words.

00:22:54
Speaker 3: That's cool.

00:22:55
Speaker 2: That was with Tyler Stafford and Chandler Rome Crush City Territory, which covers the Astros times a week part of the Ft Network.

00:23:02
Speaker 1: Yesday, I was just gonna say, Bryce, Bryce, better understand he's playing for free these first this homestand oh yeah, tell me Todd, tell me you didn't play for three when you came to Philly, New York.

00:23:16
Speaker 3: Come on, o, Kate, especially those first couple of years.

00:23:20
Speaker 4: And then I got my senses and said, hey, listen, I give you some friends tickets if you really want.

00:23:26
Speaker 1: You know where the friends tickets are. They're like way up there. And then when somebody complains about the friend's ticket, be like, oh, did you want something closer? I'll tell you how much they are, Like you just can't, like I get it. Guys, make six figures like he's gonna come up and he's gonna make seven or twenty thousand dollars pro rated for the year. If you he's from Houston, if he if he he's putting tickets down for who did he say? His family, his friends, his neighbors, Like Bryce? Yo, Bryce, you know I'm bringing my cousin. Can I get through three tickets?

00:24:01
Speaker 3: Yeah?

00:24:01
Speaker 4: Exactly right b At the end of the year, Cratzy, did you look at your stuff?

00:24:06
Speaker 3: How much money you paid for tickets?

00:24:08
Speaker 4: I remember I looked at bronson Oros one time wasn't nearly as much as mine, but mine was like the one year it was like thirty thousand dollars I paid for ticket. Dude, that's somebody's life, you know. That's somebody with people making a year and doing some job. Not saying that. I'm not like mad or upset, but I'm just saying, Yep, the stuff adds up.

00:24:28
Speaker 1: It adds up, it adds up. You can't just me, and then some people will be like, yo, I didn't make it.

00:24:34
Speaker 2: Yeah, sorry, what you need that again?

00:24:39
Speaker 3: No, you're never again.

00:24:40
Speaker 2: It's what that's a one strike system.

00:24:42
Speaker 4: It's forty dollars a pop. You got to pay that forty that tax. Also a ticket, you're paying forty dollars.

00:24:47
Speaker 2: You're saying, unless it's a changed yeah, like oh sorry, I didn't want to buy you, but I didn't make it.

00:24:53
Speaker 3: Like what crazy.

00:24:55
Speaker 1: Hey, come to a minor league game. I'll get you. I'll get you twenty tickets, I'll bring you can bring your whole church.

00:25:01
Speaker 4: Hey, you remember the minor leagues used to sorry, I know what sidetracker I used to put.

00:25:06
Speaker 3: Like, uh, on there coming.

00:25:12
Speaker 4: I'd be like, you know, Denzel Washington and the ticket people at first they're like whoa, and then then they're like, man, this guy just put you know, ah, Harry mc na Yeah, just random names like here he goes again, nobody's coming.

00:25:26
Speaker 3: It was a fun times.

00:25:28
Speaker 2: That's incredible. You put Denzel Washington.

00:25:30
Speaker 3: Yeah, Denzel.

00:25:32
Speaker 4: I used to put like did they call you Walnuts or James Gandolphini and.

00:25:38
Speaker 3: Going on there.

00:25:39
Speaker 1: Hey, we used to do that. We used to do that. But one of the guys on the team knew Britney Grinder one time and he put Brittany Grinder down on it. People are like, oh, that's great, that's great. He's like, no, she's actually coming like she'd like to sit behind the dugout and watch there she was.

00:25:54
Speaker 3: We're all like, no, stop it.

00:25:57
Speaker 2: That's good. You got to get him every once in a while where you put them.

00:26:00
Speaker 4: And then cross the mount and it comes like, yo, dude, got him.

00:26:04
Speaker 2: That's good. That's good anyway. So we'll see how Bryce Matthews looks this weekend making his debut. And also, by the way, the Futures Game is on Saturday. Leo Dvrees, big prospects in the San Diego Padres system, Philly's pitcher Andrew Painter, last year's first round pick for the Cardinals, JJ Weatherholt, Jesus Mode Brewers, big prospect, Charlie Condon who went third overall to the Rockies last year. American League. You've got the Tigers are loaded with prospects still, which is scary for people. Guys like Max Clark, who's a former first round pick, Kevin McGonagle, a lot of people are really excited about it. Spashion Walcott, who I think is now the top prospect in the Rangers system. I think Noah Schultz for the White Sox is scheduled to pitch. So it's a good list. Here's the biggest problem with that whole deal, Kratz. It's Saturday at four pm Eastern time.

00:26:54
Speaker 1: Oh, tell me, tell me you don't want to promote the young players. Without telling me you don't want to promote the young players.

00:27:02
Speaker 2: You know what else is happening Saturday at four pm Eastern time? The Mets are playing the Royals. The Cubs and Yankees will be wrapping up a game. I mean, do you want me to keep going? Oh, the Dodgers and the Giants play.

00:27:13
Speaker 3: Yeah, because everybody ends early, don't they at their point team.

00:27:16
Speaker 2: It's just the schedule is littered with games at the same exact time, and you're telling people that take away from their team and their big league team and watch the futures game. We are lost on how to promote the young side of the sport right now. Between the draft and the futures game, we are lost.

00:27:35
Speaker 1: And then we're gonna have a game a night soon where there's like three games scheduled like soon, right around the All Star breaks, somewhere where you couldn't have like scheduled this game for that time. But they're like the All Star breaks, seems like a good time to have the prospect game. Put the Prospect game at rick Wood. Put the Prospect Game as field of dreams.

00:27:55
Speaker 2: Make like, what on a Wednesday? What about the Wednesday after All Star? And what's the worst that happens all the guys in the Futures games even though the minor league season whatever. I don't know when it starts back up again or if it even has the same break. I don't what.

00:28:08
Speaker 3: I don't care.

00:28:08
Speaker 2: Here's my point. Yes, you tell your futures guy. Hey, dude, you're getting a couple extra days off because you're going to the Futures game, right not the end of the world.

00:28:16
Speaker 3: Yeah.

00:28:17
Speaker 1: No, They're like, they're like, hey, go play in the Futures Game. We're gonna need you back by Sunday's Day game right before the All Star break, and we want you to go play in the double A All Star Game. Shoot, you don't want you don't want to, Well, we don't want to sell the game, so don't worry about it.

00:28:33
Speaker 2: We're lost. I mean, I know, it's like you kind of rent the park for a few days so you get to use it for that, but we're lost on how that all works. I'm telling you, like, if anything, if you want to still be like saying, no, I'm using the park Okay, well, we'll use the park in Atlanta for one extra day. It's doing the All Star Game Tuesday, use it on Wednesday Wednesday for the Futures Game. We're lost on that topic anyway. Good interview from Crush City. So let's show the board real quick. There it is. Josh Reddick part of the mix too with Tyler Stafford and Channel the Room. So if you're an Astros fan, we've got you covered. Those guys are the best in the bas.

00:29:09
Speaker 3: Hey.

00:29:09
Speaker 2: Let's do a little player spotlight thanks to Arena Club AJ give me a player this season that you think is underrated and you might want to try and grab his card.

00:29:17
Speaker 1: James Would.

00:29:18
Speaker 5: I don't know that he's underrated, but Washington National's superstar in the making, and the first slab pack I ever opened had him in it, his rookie card, and the value is only going.

00:29:26
Speaker 1: To go up and up and up. And I'm not going to sell it KWI yet, Scott.

00:29:29
Speaker 5: I'm going to hold on to it because after he continues to hit big homers and put up the stats make All Star teams, it's going to get more expensive for someone to buy for me.

00:29:38
Speaker 2: This is his first full season in the majors. Keep that in mind. I think he's underrated. He's on a Nationals team that's man putting enough attention.

00:29:45
Speaker 1: He might underrated. When he makes the All Star team this year, They're not going to be underrated.

00:29:50
Speaker 2: That helps. He's been intentionally walked four times in a game. Anyway, If you want to try and find a wood rookie card, go check out slab packs on Arena Club and right now you can get twenty percent off your first slap pack. Or if you just want to go with a card purchase, go to Arena club dot com. Slash f o U L use code foul. If you buy, sell, trade, collect, go for it. Next up, tough debut for Brian Baker with the Rays. They just picked him up and then they ask him to enter a tight game in the eighth, he gives up the lead, Rays fall to the Red Sox. Do you want to talk about that for a second? First craft so should we go right to why he was dealt?

00:30:28
Speaker 1: Go right to why he was depe I don't want to whatever.

00:30:31
Speaker 3: I mean.

00:30:31
Speaker 2: My thing on that is, I mean, you get you know, I I think apparently found out through the media first, then they called him. Then he then your life flashes, you're with the Rays. You enter in the eighth and and the Socks got him, got to him, and the Socks been playing well lately. I think they've won like eight of nine, nine of ten. But anyway, so so he gives up technically charged with three earned runs over his inning a couple of walks, and Michael Lias addressed why he traded Brian Baker. Can we show the tweet here from Jacob Calvin Meyer, thank you who covers the team every day. Michael I said the Oriols were not shopping Brian Baker. He said the Rays were aggressive and direct in their pursuit of Baker. He said it's not an agenda item to trade guys with multiple years of control. It was an opportunity that came aka Kratz Ooh good trade. I'm too tempted. I got something that might help me in five years. I can't even though this guy's gonna help me next year when we're supposed to be contending again. Okay, cool, well, let's just keep doing that, right, Okay. Felix Bautista could be closing out a playoff game for you next year, which you haven't won during your winning window, but you might get tempted with a good prospect who could help you in twenty twenty nine. I'm not saying you shouldn't have good prospects, but what are we doing with the winning window. We're saying, Hey, I'm getting a pick that's going to help me in the future years from now, and so I'm going to sacrifice what I have at the moment when by the time I'm worried about that next guy, I might not have half of my current core.

00:32:00
Speaker 1: Scott, let's let's backtrack. You're saying prospect, he got traded for somebody they haven't even picked yet. Thirty seventh pick. It's not a first round pick.

00:32:14
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's good. It's a high level pick and for him, you know what he's doing. My math says that this pick is worth sixteen million dollars over the course of the career. That's a real thing. They put a price on every pick.

00:32:26
Speaker 1: All it was was money. They got Brian Baker for money. Whether you think Brian Baker is gonna be good, people who say, oh, they traded him, and now look what he did when he went against the team went in against the team who hits changeups really well, and what's his best pitch change up? Anyway, you sit there and you go, Okay, you got extra slot money for all your entire bonus pool for the whole draft. So now you have the most slot money. So now you have an opportunity to just draft all these other picks. And whether you're trying to look all those picks or not, but you get all that money for a player that could have helped you next year. To me, you talk about not on the he said quote, not on the agenda list. What is your agenda? Tell me your agenda, Michael Lias, tell me your agenda. Please don't beat around the bush. Please don't say things. Don't say the GM speak of a sustainable product, because there's Orioles fans who have still stuck around even though they shouldn't have based on the awful rebuild or the rebuild that created this roster. And now you're saying, well, our agenda isn't to get rid of guys with control, but you did. You did get rid of guys with control, and now he's not going to be there. You have to replace him, which you didn't do a very good job of this offseason replacing pieces that we're missing. So to me, your agenda needs to be explained, or maybe you shouldn't be back.

00:34:01
Speaker 2: Is the goal to always have talent flowing or is the goal to also make sure that you actually win during the time period when you're supposed to after tanking for five years. I'm lost on the topic. Hey, Internally, they might be saying, you know what, we don't really like this guy. We don't we don't buy the changes he made this year that we helped him with. Okay, that's fine. Then you still shouldn't phrase what you just said the way you said it. It is very misleading, and fans are on fire right now in Baltimore. They're lost to their confused. They go, yep, we're out of it this year. We figure you're going to trade the rentals away, but you started trade season with a guy that had years of control left. I'm lost there.

00:34:45
Speaker 3: But we talked about it all the time. I brought it up.

00:34:49
Speaker 2: You did not like the roster. We all didn't like the roster. This is the one thing we agreed on, but you didn't like it so much that you picked them before the season to not make the playoffs.

00:34:57
Speaker 4: No, I didn't, and you see it coming. And I'm not trying all because I told you so. They didn't get rid of the guys when they needed to a couple of years ago. They had so many of them and an opportunity to get better, get some major league experience guys, get a guy that you know could come in and close in the seventh or eighth, and get guys that are known to play in the major leagues. And they didn't do it. And now, what two or three are pretty good? And how about the rest of the guys exactly?

00:35:24
Speaker 2: And they didn't address pitching, and they haven't developed pitching well, and they've mostly ignored it. Like they've done a really good job of drafting and then position players then developing No what what pitching. If they developed starting pitching.

00:35:36
Speaker 1: Tyler Wells, Bradish, Brayson Rodriguez, that's a banger. Top three.

00:35:43
Speaker 2: But they're all hurt.

00:35:44
Speaker 1: They're all hurt. I wouldn't. I wouldn't say they haven't. They haven't had the they haven't had the plethora of starting pitching like they have supposedly all of these position players.

00:35:58
Speaker 2: But yeah, if you like they pick, they go position players high in the draft, which is fine. I mean some teams go that route.

00:36:05
Speaker 3: Stop doing that.

00:36:06
Speaker 2: You got to mix it up at least that I would imagine that.

00:36:10
Speaker 4: Or get that college, get that college college high school, right, you know, third fourth round, get that high school alarm where it's like this kid's gonna be three four years from now, but you want their college arm and that's ready to rock man. And there's a couple of them out there right now.

00:36:26
Speaker 2: Hey, we got some All Star edition news multiple. I just heard Casey Mice cracked the roster. I just heard Carlos Rodin is replacing Max Freed on the roster. And this is Bob Knight and saying, ending any suspense, who manager Aaron Boone will select to be his al starting pitcher for the All Star Game. Trek Skouble gets the announcement makes sense, Cy young winner and you know, top three contender for the award.

00:36:54
Speaker 4: Again it always it's kind of it stinks you think about it, like for the guys that are true. Also, I'm not saying these guys aren't that are coming into being.

00:37:02
Speaker 2: All Star replacements.

00:37:04
Speaker 4: Yeah, they You know why I wish you could make it till all these guys can you know, get a little taste. You know, some guys might just it might be one time they ever do it. So they'll still get the jersey, they'll still you know, be an All Star, but they just you know, can't go to it and perform. So that's the worst, that's the toughest part. But for guys to get in that we're on the fringe even better. So it's that happy, you know, good bad kind of thing.

00:37:27
Speaker 2: Yeah, Casey Mice just got the call too, so I don't know, I didn't get to see who he's replacing, but a bunch of pitching replacements. It always happens scrats because a lot of teams, whether it's set up or not, will have their starters going on a Saturday or Sunday and then they'll can't try someone. Instead, he replaces Crochet, by the way, Casey Mice for Crochet.

00:37:47
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought, I thought the guys that went Saturday usually still pitching the game. But I mean, I guess they're pushing that back now to Friday. So Schoogl's going tonight, Freed's going tomorrow. Definitely a Sunday guys around.

00:38:01
Speaker 3: I get that that.

00:38:02
Speaker 2: I get Yeah, at some point they're going to say unless you add full rest or let a.

00:38:08
Speaker 4: Whole week off and have it like the next Friday Saturdays, do that and then fly them out Sunday, and then baseball back on money boom.

00:38:17
Speaker 2: Nice take break. Quick question, by the way, from Jamin and the chat, what's the purpose of not being able to trade draft picks. That's a great question, Jamon, and it's a question that nobody can answer because it requires collective bargaining, which we've hit quite a bit over the last couple of weeks. And we have one side that said they would like to see it and another side that said they would not like to see it. It's that simple. That is a fact right now. One side wants all draft picks to be traded or allowed to be traded, because it would create more excitement in the game. And it's actually the side that would have to deal with the repercussions of bouncing around, right, it would create more trades. It's I know, getting traded for you guys not the most fun thing in the world, just hop the family to another city. But they know the good of the game that it's fun. You can say I'm being biased, but it's a fact, one side is for it, they would do it tomorrow. The other side is not for it at the moment they want it.

00:39:11
Speaker 3: Is it hurting though? I don't get it? I did.

00:39:13
Speaker 2: Do you remember what the explanation was Kratz.

00:39:16
Speaker 1: Their explanation, while super vague, was always we're not sure if the owners would, if the teams would say would use it, use it inappropriately? And we were like, what does that mean? As a player, what does that mean? So you just don't know how to regulate it. Look at the other sports, everybody loves the draft, the draft trades on Draft Day, like all, we're moving up to go get Chase Burns, who's gonna help us in our playoff run? Moving up to go get Finigan, who's gonna help us a playoff run with Royals? Like that is intrigue.

00:39:52
Speaker 2: It makes too much sense. So it's not happening. Hot Corner time.

00:39:59
Speaker 3: Baby.

00:39:59
Speaker 2: It's by next Playground, which has a new home Run Heroes home Run Derby game, and we are going to play it after the show and then show you the results next week. But the derby field is set. We learned about the last two yesterday Brent Rooker, and then after the show it was announced that Jazz Chisholm will also join the fields. Todd Father, I know you're going to be part of the broadcast.

00:40:23
Speaker 3: We're excited to.

00:40:24
Speaker 2: Hear you on there. Ronald Lacuna Junior, cal Raley, James wood Byron Buxton, O'Neil Cruz Junior, Cameronaro plus Rooker and Jazz Chisholm size it up for us. What do you think?

00:40:34
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I was looking at you know, bet MGM. I was looking at to see where the numbers are. The The favorite is cal Raley. I guess he's he's a switch hitter, not necessarily plays what I mean. You see Adlie Rutchman tried doing it the one year, going the opposite side, you're still going to be exhausted.

00:40:53
Speaker 3: I don't care what side you hit by. You know you got.

00:40:55
Speaker 4: Byron Buxton, the Georgia Bourne guy. You know he's gonna be playing for free that day. O'Neill Cruz, this guy I've seen hit personally the last team I played with. We were on that that team that waited to get called up during the covid H experience. This guy can hit the ball, and he hits the ball hard, but here's my thing about him. He hits him far, but they're line drive, so this is gonna help him get more at a time. Of course he's gonna pops him up that are gonna get out, but his trajectory is this way, not up and out. That's the guy I'm keeping my eye on. The biggest underdog is Brent Rooker, and I haven't really like this guy, and I like his chances actually too as well. To make a big splash in his home run derby two time All Star guy can hit homers. He's played at a minor league park for half the year so far. I see him making a big splash in here. And then another guy that pops in mind, Junior Camonaro. You've seen the excitement, You've seen the energy is going to be too much of the energy that all of a sudden he fades out the second half. There's a lot to look into. This is gonna be one memorable home run derby a lot of young stars, a lot of first timers. Scott, I can't wait to see, and you know Firo and Bucks and I can't wait to see too, because he can hit the ball far away. Oh yeah, does he do that? In VP though, so we'll see sick guy and who are they gonna throw? We'll get all that information.

00:42:19
Speaker 2: Who was staring to is your brother?

00:42:20
Speaker 3: My brother? But how are they gonna throw lob but a they're gonna throw firm. We'll see.

00:42:24
Speaker 4: There's a lot of intricacies unless, but not least the hometown here Ronald Ocunya.

00:42:28
Speaker 3: Is the pressure going to be too much?

00:42:30
Speaker 2: Remember when Bryce Harper won? What year was that, twenty seventeen or eighteen? Yeah, yeah, in front of the home crowd. Do you think Akuna could do that? I think he's got the pop in the athleticism, he's not going to tire out, and he's a you never know.

00:42:45
Speaker 4: It's exhausting, even though the time limit has gone down. It's interesting, scratzy what you got.

00:42:52
Speaker 1: Oh, I was just gonna say, I don't think anybody that. I don't think any hometown players can ever win the home run derby, like I think those guys that do that or just big times herds like bad guys. Like if you're if you're hitting your home run derby in your home, in the town, you're playing in the city, you're playing in, big thumbs down to you.

00:43:12
Speaker 3: That's good. That that means good, Thank you so much.

00:43:17
Speaker 1: No, I gotta I gotta ask you, Todd. There's there's a big difference. I'm looking at the I'm.

00:43:23
Speaker 2: Looking at hold on real quick. He took like a piece of tape or something and he threw it at the TV and like it was a perfect strike directly between the eyeballs.

00:43:35
Speaker 1: I was wondering. I felt I felt something like hit my eye. But anyway, the top so the top four guys that I think it's like cal Raley, Auna Cruise, Cruise and James Wood would be like you know, the top four that you think of of those of those guys, who do you think has the best shot? Oh?

00:44:00
Speaker 3: Man, I think Cruz does. I do. I think he does.

00:44:05
Speaker 4: With his swing and with his bat speed, he can go on an absolute tear and hit six to eight in a row and next thing you know, he's only down three with thirty seconds left.

00:44:16
Speaker 3: Something like that. I don't think the.

00:44:17
Speaker 4: Guy tires ever, It's just a matter of how much is he going to compete in this competition?

00:44:25
Speaker 1: Okay, just because I'm looking at it, like James Wood is the I honestly wish the number was a little bit better. For us. I wish it was paying a little bit better. I just don't feel like people understand, like the ease and the size of this guy. He's going opo. That's my only fear is a lot of his homers in games are the opposite field, and I haven't seen a ton of guys consistently go opposite field in the home run derby. So I want to do a little bit more digging to see if he can go like Puol happy homers. Because if he can go Puol happy homers, MVP. To me, he's the guy like this one right here. Nobody's throwing him a breaking ball. He's taking heaters and he's going biggest part of the ballpark with ease. I just I just don't see. I just don't see a lot of opo. And maybe you can tell me different, Todd, a lot of dudes that go opo. It's hard or even center. I mean we're watching one essentially a center, just right a center. It's tough. You need the guys that just pull hooked dingers, that's days backspin dingers.

00:45:32
Speaker 4: It's hard to hit opposite field home runs consistently in a home runner because the speed isn't there.

00:45:38
Speaker 3: They got to throw in it.

00:45:40
Speaker 1: And you almost have to you almost have to like reset, like when guys do it almost look like they reset. Ryan Howard did it, and I feel like Ryan Howard power plus is like equal to the James Wood power.

00:45:52
Speaker 4: I don't know, we'll see those are those underdogs that you you don't know, We'll see what happens.

00:45:59
Speaker 2: Junior camp Mon Arrow. Junior is young. He's he's almost up there with with a cruise with the bats being all that the only thing with Cruise those line drives. He does a lot of those that smack off the wall. Yeah, we've got to get a little more lyft on it. Junior does that naturally, a.

00:46:13
Speaker 4: Little more if it swings ferocious and that might lead to more pop ups to it.

00:46:19
Speaker 3: But not saying he can't do it.

00:46:21
Speaker 2: Okay, I like it. Let's show off the bling the home run derby champ chain. Oh there, yeah, that's nice. That's cool.

00:46:30
Speaker 4: It's got a big gold No, yeah, looks.

00:46:34
Speaker 2: That looks good. Yeah, but it's right exactly, but it's still cool. Is somebody's signature on there?

00:46:42
Speaker 3: It does say keep.

00:46:44
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00:47:24
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00:47:39
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00:48:31
Speaker 3: I know I did really bad.

00:48:33
Speaker 2: And this one has you know. Last one was more about this season and stats. This one's a little more all encompassing, so give it a shot.

00:48:40
Speaker 3: Once.

00:48:40
Speaker 4: Yeah, I had a bed, it was brain, was five outside, it was fire. Yeah, I was.

00:48:48
Speaker 1: In second place. I was in second place for this one, so I haven't done it again. I want to try my other tries.

00:48:53
Speaker 3: But place tied with like forty people. Yeah, it makes sense.

00:48:57
Speaker 4: This guy always thinking he's just the soul the crats.

00:49:02
Speaker 1: It's based on time too, but hey, don't worry about it. What about.

00:49:17
Speaker 2: Let's slap kratz hats. What do you have for us today.

00:49:22
Speaker 1: Going into I mean, this is the peak of summer right now. The shore, the waters, the water's goetting a little warmer next week, it's gonna be awesome. The mama wanas, mamajanas, mamajanas.

00:49:34
Speaker 4: You know, the ocean with sixty four degrees the other day, I hoped they felt good coming out going in was a little cold.

00:49:39
Speaker 2: Sixty four degrees.

00:49:41
Speaker 3: That's it. That's it. That was this week.

00:49:43
Speaker 1: Yeah, damn, one little one, last little cold stretch. But it's about to get hot.

00:49:50
Speaker 2: I love it. I love it. Big weekend and then this is the last weekend obviously of games until we hit the All Star break. So Monday, if you're in Atlanta, please stop by check out the show live. We're excited about it. Also, listen to Todd Father on the call on ESP for the Home run Derby. Who you got Carl Ravach and EDWARDO very nice and this is your two.

00:50:13
Speaker 3: Of the home run Derby.

00:50:14
Speaker 2: Yeah for you calling it, calling it so now you're coming in that no more rookie hazing dirt spikes. You can you can do the little you know how it is when you're in a three men booth, you got to make sure you communicate to you on stip over so you get a nice little shoulder tap or like the hand on the shoulder. Yeah, I got this, I got this, I got yeah, exactly, we're making obvious likes.

00:50:39
Speaker 4: I like it three man booth, I like I like it two man, I like it three. I think they all go really well together.

00:50:45
Speaker 2: For Derby. Three is great because you have a lot of time right to chat. I know, obviously the rounds go, but then there there is time in between because they do stretch it out to a what is it two and a half hour issue?

00:50:56
Speaker 3: Ex yeah, yeah, yeah, I like yeah.

00:50:59
Speaker 2: I like the three for that, no doubt.

00:51:02
Speaker 4: The guys, the numbers guy like he knows like trajectory and stuff like that, and I talk about what they're feeling.

00:51:08
Speaker 2: Like it's a good bets you won the tournament, so.

00:51:14
Speaker 3: Mindset all that good stuff.

00:51:15
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