A-LIE-ances: RHOC Recap with Alexis Bellino

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Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.

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Speaker 2: I'm an executive.

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Speaker 1: Producer who have produced some of your favorite shows from the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and Bell Collective. Every episode we recap reality television from the Real Housewives franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or scripted as well.

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Speaker 3: Hey, rain Drops, on today's episode Reality with the King, it is keet and Afraid Dating Naked or Naked Wasted Part two. So we're going to discuss the most recent episode of The.

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Speaker 2: Real house watch Sports County.

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Speaker 3: And she's back my friend who just celebrated her. That's her very party that we got to like at least get a little tea about that.

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Speaker 2: But give it up.

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Speaker 3: And before I introduce her, I want to thank the rain Drops for embracing her. The feedback has been won the pole. I've been getting stopped in the street saying like, we we like your recaps with her, like keep it going.

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Speaker 2: So as long as she says yes, I'm gonna keep doing it.

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Speaker 3: But give it up with my friend the beautiful Alexis Bilino.

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Speaker 4: Hi, everybody, Oh my gosh, that was so steet. I didn't know people are stopping you on the screen. There was probably one person. Okay, no, it was like like five by five.

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Speaker 3: We're like no, it's just like, hey, we we like our recaps of Alecxuis. It's pretty fun and it's interesting because I thank god, you know, recomments and thank god I get not on Twitter. But I will say the feedback on Twitter has also been fabulous. So my mistake. It wasn't the Bachelor. Red Party was a bridal shower that you recently celebrated. So how was that for you, baby doll?

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Speaker 5: It's good. It was. I mean, it wasn't good. It was amazing.

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Speaker 4: And I'm doing everything unorthodox and very untraditional in this wedding, so that just shows you I wanted to put jewelry on my girls instead of have some cavias, So.

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Speaker 5: There you go.

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Speaker 4: But I was they had a blast. It was It was It was just unique because we all get.

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Speaker 5: To walk around. Of course there was orders and.

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Speaker 4: Such, but it was like it's just you're just talking, you know, getting pierced, getting a piece of permanent jewelry, getting a necklace.

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Speaker 5: It's just it was really cool.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: So let's say you are celebrating a milestone and this season of Orange County has had a good season. But before we recapped episode, I want to read you something because you know, I'm pretty active on Twitter. I don't want you to be though, because sometimes people can just be mean for no reason.

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Speaker 2: They didn't mean to me. So I don't give a shit.

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Speaker 4: I have Twitter and I have a lot of followers, but I don't I don't have enough time in the day. I feel like right now to get on it, and I should. I guess now that you're telling me this, So I'm getting beat up up. I mean, you can't get more beat up than on Instagram or at the turn off comments Carlos. So I'm overally Oh well, look, I like to get props due.

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Speaker 3: So this tweet is from Ksey, who's Twitter handle is at k Baby one two three four.

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Speaker 2: He said, And I'm going to show you the proof Alexis.

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Speaker 3: He said, we was robbed of Bretchant and alexis reuniting this season. Alexis deserve to come back. I don't give a fuck our hoc Bravo bumbled with this line, and the comments are in support of this, and I just wanted you to see them proved because I'm not a.

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Speaker 2: Liar liar tady on fire, so I wanted you to see it.

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Speaker 6: How do you.

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Speaker 3: Feel that there has been this sort of like outpour of support for people wanting you to return this season now that we're like six episodes in.

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Speaker 4: I kind of feel like maybe people are seeing that it wasn't enough shown last season. There was so much shown of what there was nothing. How I should say it is things were not shown that should have been shown, and it was just so focused laser focused on the lawsuit and other things that you know, I did get a little bit of a cheat and that I was cheated a little bit. However, it feels good, but I'm having more fun just recapping it all with you.

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Speaker 5: High five all that.

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Speaker 3: So listen, I'm just happy to be doing this with you. So let's get right into it. You were crazy busy last weekend.

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Speaker 2: I was too. We did not get to recap, but I feel.

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Speaker 3: Like this recent episode is sort of like part two of last week's episode.

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Speaker 2: So listen, miss thing.

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Speaker 3: We're going to dive right into this episode and dive right into it. I know you've seen the clips. We have a sobby whole episode. Your friend who was at the Bridle shop, er Tamra Judge, my girl. She left the cast trip in New Orleans because Tamra Judge told Gretchen and Shannon that she was told by journalists that Katie told Monique that Gretchen told her listen to game a tele phone.

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Speaker 2: That Gretchen told her.

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Speaker 3: That on the night have Maked It Wasted exactly like follow follow followed.

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Speaker 4: Carloss, we need a roadmap to show all of our our rain drops exactly. Here's what we're talking about with the spider websing going like you got it, though you've got it?

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'm trying, sister, okay, so okay follow long rain drops. Tamera was told by bloggers slash journalists that Katie told Key Key Monique a radio and the host a Dernda Medley, that Gretchen told Katie that on the night of Maked Wasted back in two thousand and eight, that she felt that camera rooted her. Gretchen busically was upset, denied it, hubbed Tamra, and then all of a sudden said, I I think I believe Katie that Katie didn't do it. The episode begins with Gina saying, look, I told Katie that I believe her, But why don't you just call Kikim Monique? And then before I get to the rest of the episode, what do you think about all of this? You know these girls more than I do. Does Alexis Belino believe that Gretchen did tell Katie that she felt Tamera rooped her in two thousand and eight, on the night of the Naked Wasted.

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Speaker 4: Episode one million percent after watching the whole episode, because at first you kind of go, okay, well is little rumor or whatever. By the end of the episode, did everybody see what I saw?

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Speaker 2: It's like both.

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Speaker 4: Katie and Gretchen got caught lying and saying one thing and then saying the other. And it's like if everybody just fusses up at the beginning and I don't know what the again, another stupid life all. First of all, Carlos, can I ask the most important question ever? Why are we rehashing something that happened twelve frickey years ago. It wasn't an affair with a husband. It was a stupid, little drinking fest words. I don't think Tama was correct and using those that verbiage and you know, making a joke about that.

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Speaker 5: However, twelve years ago, Tamor's grown she's grown up a little bit.

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Speaker 4: Okay, what hasn't grown up is the fact that we're immature enough to still be bringing up these things. And by the way, Carlos, the one thing I want every viewer to think about is this the only way Katie would even know about naked wasted or any kind of a roofie rumor would be?

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Speaker 5: How would be?

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Speaker 3: How?

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Speaker 5: How could it even be out there?

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Speaker 4: And for Gretchen to get defensive or Forgretchen to say no, but then say yes? And the limo ride back with with to Tamar and who was in the car with them Tamar and Heather?

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Speaker 5: Was it Tamra, Heather and Gretchen.

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Speaker 4: When Gretchen said Gretchen was in the backseat and goes, I did ask, and then in her interview with what was that look? By the way, she I felt like it was a Stepford Wives cartoon.

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Speaker 5: However, she's beautiful.

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Speaker 4: We all know she's beautiful, but come on, now, we don't need a costume party on the confessional. However, she should never have said in the back of the car, yeah I went, and then in her confessional, go I remember went.

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Speaker 5: It's like, okay, was it.

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Speaker 4: Alcohol, like she had a cocktail so then she was slippery mouth? Or is it just lying and the girls don't remember their lies? What do you think about that? Because it baffles me. I'm like, I'm shocked at how the lives are just like coming around and around and no one's learning from their mistake. It's like, hello, there's cameras there. People, there's cameras. You're gonna get caught in your life.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, It's like, hello, this This is what I've been saying since day one.

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Speaker 2: And the reason why I love doing.

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Speaker 3: Recap with you is because I am a producer who has done many episodes of housewives. You have been a housewife for so many years, and this is your world for sure. You and I both said from day one, like, look, there's something about what Katie is saying. You defended her because she's her friend. You're like, look, I know, Katie, I have to admit this happened, but I want to give her some grapes. Katie then said, fuck you, Alexis I think you're a liar, and you're like, okay, girl. I tried to at least give you some grapes. So let's have a real conversation. I said from day one, I think Katie's a liar, liar pants on fire. The social media audience hats Camera. I'll say this again, Katie Janella does not have fans. She has Tamra haters. If Camra would have done one percent of what they're accusing Katie, Camera would get read on social media. Katie gets offended because they just hate Camra. Sorry, guys, it is what it is. Furthermore, I said, last week, Alexis, when Katie walked back in that room after talking to Matt and she said, oh my god, what's going on?

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Speaker 2: I said, Katie.

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Speaker 3: Read the script that Matt wrote as if he was Michael pat King the creator up and just like that, it gave a Charlotte performance. Going back telling Miranda Kerry Brawshaw what happened, Katie was acting, I said too.

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Speaker 2: And I love Gretchen, but one thing about my podcast, I'm gonna call things out like I see it. I can still love you. I love Gretchen.

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Speaker 3: I think this is a great housewife I said, Gretchen changed her tune once she called Slade. Slade said, I'll fix this. I'm gonna call Matt. I call, I said this last week, Ale like this, and I said that they both they both conspired to tell this story only for this episode for Katie to say, look, I gotta be honest. Slay called Matt, Slade said, we gotta fix this. Throw Tamera under the bus. And we conspired with each other to tell this story. And this is the problem when it comes to these reality shows. I agree with you. We talked about something that happened in two thousand and eight. I don't give a shit, right, I love Gretchen. Gretchen, I love you down boots. I believe Gretchen did tell Katie the story.

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Speaker 5: So first of all, let me go back to the whole.

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Speaker 4: Like, the reason I was giving Katie so much accolades and just so much support on our first couple podcasts that we've done rehashing the show is because I had not yet been burned by Katie and lied about about by Katie. So the problem is now, once I've seen the true colors the other women are saying, and now you go back and recount everything everyone's saying, you have all the evidence of all of her lives that keep And the problem is, Carlos, the number one problem. Everything you said is correct, by the way, but the number one problem.

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Speaker 5: Is Katie admitted that.

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Speaker 4: Okay, after saying no, none of that happened. Remember they were at the first dinner. Okay, keep got it. It's the cobweb again. You got it at the first dinner. Katie goes that never happened.

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Speaker 5: No, that never happened.

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Speaker 4: Then she's talking to that or then she admits that Gretchen did tell the story when they're at mass. Then she's on the count with Matt and asks Matt guesh the true, really believing one that actually brings the truth to the forefront is of Matt. Because then Katie goes, so, Matt, do you do you remember when Slade said this? And he's like, oh yeah, and then Katie asks another question. He goes, well, you're not wrong. You you're lying about hearing that. So it's all coming back to point the evidence that the story was told at dinner. So that's how Katie got the truth of or what Gretchen was putting out there. And then she goes and has a big mouth obviously and said something to Katy Keky Monique just like she shows me the audio that she then wants to take back and said she didn't show me. Hello, I'm not gonna lie about it, nor would I know everything that was set on that phone call if you hadn't let me listen to the whole minute and a half phone call, okay.

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Speaker 5: Or work memo. So all of us just like, I'm like, you know what.

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Speaker 4: The other funny thing is, Katie literally just got a taste of her own medicine. Because she's like, she's like feeling that about Gretchen and Katie did the same thing to me. She's like, well, Gretchen and Jen aren't telling the truth. Why aren't they discussing up to it? We were all at that dinner. Well, girlfriend, you were at the freaking lunch, were you? So you show you let me listen to the voice memo, So you're getting to taste your own medicine, because that's what karma does. It brings it right back around. But the whole thing is so frustrating because it's like, again, a stupid rumor. It's not like you're trying to protect your kids. Because you just had an affair with another.

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Speaker 5: Man or woman stupid?

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Speaker 4: Why about naked wasted and whether or not Gretchen claimed Tamra rupeter or went to the hospital.

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Speaker 5: Who cares?

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Speaker 4: You're alive, you're kicking, you look great, You're move on, You've got a kid.

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Speaker 5: Now, why are we talking about that?

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Speaker 4: And why is Katie lying at the very beginning about going to Peki Monique?

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Speaker 5: Because the other.

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Speaker 4: Point, Carlos, that everyone needs to consider Kiki Monique is not about to worry about this little Orange County rumor that's going around Orange County about this.

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Speaker 5: This is the least thing.

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Speaker 4: It's like, it's like killing an aunt in her house for her, She's like, oh there's an aunt, squash. She does not care about this. Why is she gonna lie and try to get in the middle all of this? And she's got way too much going on, So Anne, she wouldn't even have any idea of this if Katie had not gone to her and said something.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, now listen, I feel your frustration, Alexis, and I can tell how.

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Speaker 2: Frustrated you are. And I think us and the audience.

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Speaker 3: We're sort of like, look, when we watch these shows, we want obviously, like you said, we want the real, we want the funny, but we also want like some real life stuff that happens.

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Speaker 2: I have always said this on my podcast that I got read.

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Speaker 3: For, and I don't give a shit because I don't do things for the popular for the popular opinion. There's alliances on these shows, and it's evident that there's an alliance between Gretchen.

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Speaker 2: Gin and Katie and I'm going to I'm want to take you back a little bit.

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Speaker 3: During towards the end of last season airing Okay, there's a photo of Katie, Gretchen and Jen hanging out having dinner and it could be the ninal question at my Masshviille's and New per Beach and it was sort of and it was sort of like introducing to the audience the possibility of Gretchen coming back to the show because they wanted to. They want thank you Alexis. They wanted to showcase that, you know, we're friends in real life. Let's bring our friend back. It bothers me and I'm gonna ask listen, you don't have to answer this because I don't want to put you on the spot, but I have to speak my truth. It bothers me that when you came on the show, you came on the show with something real.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't like.

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Speaker 3: You and John were dating. To piss off Shannon. You guys are literally getting married soon. You just celebrated your idol shower, and the audience had had a bad reaction to like Lee Shannon alone, right, which is fine, you have your fans. What bothers me is this, when we get something that's real and organic, you guys shun it. When we get something that is obviously lies in faith, you guys sort of. You guys defend the liar, and I don't understand why some of you people gave a less of a hard time for living out her reality, but you celebrate Katie who has been proven week after week to be a liar. She denied that she told Gretchen, I mean the blogger, this only for the next fucking episode for her to say, okay, fine, I said it. Listen, you don't have to answer it, and that's fine. It infuriates me that this is going on.

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Speaker 2: Does it bother you.

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Speaker 3: A since that Reality TV is no longer about the reality anymore?

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Speaker 4: Wow, I mean, it's so much emotion that just came through me and that on that whole like everything you just said.

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Speaker 5: But I guess I think I've gotten such thick skin after how bad I was. I it was like I murdered.

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Speaker 4: Somebody's child last year, you know, after dating somebody that that you know, broke up with the other woman a year and a half before. So I mean, I I don't know. And and by the way, John and I did try to fight it, and obviously it didn't work.

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Speaker 5: Here we are walking down the aisle soon, but but.

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Speaker 4: It doesn't infuriate me because I feel like and this is when our very first podcast, Carlos, I told you I said, I missed the realut the reel of the show. But I get that the viewers like the fate of it, or like the more. Uh, you know, these women would not act like this at a lunch, if they were at their lunch with their neighbor next door. They act like this because there is a camera. We do have to, you know, create good TV. And we still are trying to be authentic, but we're just missing some of And I wish that the audience last year would have given me a chance to actually, you know, because it hadn't been so hated. There's a chance I might have been brought back for them to actually see the wedding planning, the true love between John and I, like my real life, and not just me being torn down for me having the boyfriend who's doing a woman for money. She is owed, you know, he is owed. I mean, so there was a lot to that. But no, I'm not infuriated. I just wish that people would put on their really like they're real thinking caps and go, huh, this hasn't just happened once with Katie. That's the other part to this is why is Katie not learning from that to where it happened last season too, where she'd get caught in a line and she'd go, oh.

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Speaker 5: Yes, I did do that.

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Speaker 4: It's like, what is what is it in your mind where you don't just own up to it at the very beginning? What is it that I mean, you keep You're not learning don't touch the hot stove. You're still doing it over and over and over. Because here we are on you know, the next season, and she's still doing it. So is it just is it a massive blip in her brain that she can't go, I'm gonna get caught with this, I'm gonna someone's gonna find out because the truth is gonna come out. Just like Gina said and her professional the truth will be found out. Well, just like last year, the truth does get found out.

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Speaker 2: So mm hmm, yeah, I like I want Katie to grow.

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Speaker 5: I want Katie to grow.

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Speaker 3: I want Katie to go. I'll listen, I think, and listen and listen. I also gave Katie some grace and listen. I would love to have a conversation with Katie because I really want to.

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Speaker 2: I want to help her understand.

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Speaker 3: The wrong doing that she has done and and find a way to really, like you said, alexis to sort of like dig deep in terms of her psyche for why she's doing it. The reason why I said I want Katie to go is because, and listen, I'm not saying forever. I think Katie needs needs to go at least for a season or two, because for me, for me, for me, it's not fair to the other women who are trying their best.

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Speaker 2: To just do their job.

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Speaker 3: You are right, let's have a real conversation. When you are on reality television, there is an extra level of unk that you give to the show, right because you're you're on camera, but when you befriend bloggers and when you are.

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Speaker 2: When you're constantly caught lying.

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Speaker 3: I now among Gina's side when she sent an interview that if Katie comes back next season, she really has to consider her play on the show, because I don't want anybody in my real life, in my real circle who has a habit of just lying all of the time. And I don't think it's fair that any of these women have to be subjected to sitting out a dinner table trying to be real and honest with people.

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Speaker 2: And you don't know what this woman Katie is capable of.

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Speaker 3: If she has to take that information before the season is even airing and talks to a blogger, I think Katie. I think Katie needs to be.

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Speaker 2: Reprimanded for this life of a housewife.

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Speaker 4: Word maybe therapy, because honestly, like something there is something amiss that you don't learn a means Truly. I'm not trying to bag on Katie because I do think she has Like I've said about her before, I think she has a big heart. I think she's a good person. I think she's funny. I love Matt think I think they're a cute couple. I just think that if you haven't learned, because like I think, if she had done that one time and then then very remorseful, the women would have been able to have the conflict resolution, move past it go on.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 4: That's the phases of the show, I think, when it keeps happening, and now we've had two seasons of evidence of it where she herself not just evidence of the footage but of the background of everything, but the footage of her actually saying, oh, I did actually do that, and now it happened to begin this episode. How many more times is it going to.

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Speaker 5: Happen this episode or this season?

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Speaker 4: I don't know, but it's like, if you don't learn, then that is where I agree with the other women. It's like, why would you want to You can't trust anything she's saying.

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Speaker 5: Because it's going to happen.

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Speaker 4: She's going to do it again, and like Heather, oh Heather said at that dinner, she goes, Katie, you scare us because what's next?

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Speaker 5: Like what's going to happen next?

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Speaker 4: Because now she's lying about the blogger a keeping Monique, and then she's also lying about you know, at first about Gretchen and by the way, we found out why she was lying at first about Gretchen because Ladea called Matt called Matt and said, Matt, please tell Katie to lie. This is what has to happen where we've got this group together, we're alliances. She needs to lie for Matt or for for Gretchen. Katie felt that at first, and then did it. Knew she was caught, knew she can't get out of it. She got to tell the truth. So then she tells the truth, but then no one believes her. No one's gonna believe you now because she's lied about it.

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Speaker 5: So no, no, I know, I know.

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Speaker 2: It takes my breath away, so i'll I want to also mention this, Katie admitted in her confessionals and rain Drops. I want you guys to understand what this means.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Katie in her confessionals which elections can corroborate, you sometimes take your confessionals during the season, or you sometimes take your confessionals after the season has wrapped and the episode of being edited in real time as they're taping the scenes rain drops, we call that beverte. In real time as they're taping the scenes, Katie never admits on camera what Gretchen allegedly did Katie said in her confessionals, whether it was Kate during the season or once the season rapped. She said that, Okay, I want you to be very clear, So I'm not giving Katie no props for seeing something in her confessional by herself with the green screen behind her and not in the faces of her lions. Okay, Katie said that Gretchen did say in front of her, Matt and Jen that that night of making wasted, that she went to the hospital and they found drugs in her system, and she doesn't understand why Jin isn't corroborating with this story because that's what happened. I'm not giving Katie no props for that because you didn't say to the faces of these ladies. But I do want to ask you this. Do you think Jen is protecting Gretchen?

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's really hard to say no to that after watching this episode. I mean, I feel I feel like, like you said you prefaced the beginning of this podcast with me today that that people you know there's alliances on the show that is true. Where it gets dangerous is when your alliance is involved lying because it is the problem is, no matter how deep that alliance is, whether it's this year, next year, twelve years from now, the truth is going to come out. So it's like it's like, you can't form an alliance and go like, let's just say, like everyone knows Tamara and our buddy buddy say, I still call her out on this podcast and say what she should or shouldn't do. By the way, my heart broke that nobody really wrapped around her when she's going through the hardest thing of her life. But yet everyone wraps around anyone else on the cast that gets you know her or whatever. So that was really bus But I also call her out where she needs to be called out.

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Speaker 5: However, where was I going with that?

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Speaker 4: Now I lost it, So I'm starting to get worried about Tamor.

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Speaker 2: But where was I going? I was asking you, do you believe jin is protecting me?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Okay, So where I was going with that is is that if you lie for it, Like even if Tammar came to me and said, go on next episode or next time we film, we're going to dinner or we're going to play volleyball, let's just say please when they bring us up lie about it and don't say it, and I'm going to go, no, Tamara, I can't do that because it's gonna come all all come out, and then we're both of aos like idiots, like like everyone's looking kind of now and just wait, this is only the beginning.

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Speaker 5: I don't even think.

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Speaker 4: I think next episode is still gonna have more coming, Carlo, that's what I think. I don't know, But I was right about the kicking thing. There's more footage, there's more proof and and and by the way, why didn't Katie just call keeking right then or text her or DM or or do something and get to the bottom of it right then? That is the best way that you can just squash any lie. You know why she didn't She was lying, Yeah, Kicky, Monique has no reason to lie on this show. Katie has proven it time and time again. She wants to lie constantly because she's got a little marble loose in her head and she needs to go see somebody and talk about why she can't just get the truth out at the beginning. What is muzzling her for the truth?

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Speaker 3: Okay, guys, somebody just see me because I'm I'm uplove this on YouTube. Some of you so listen my listeners in your car.

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Speaker 2: You can listen to finish, listen to this.

00:28:00
Speaker 3: I implore you to go on my YouTube channel at the Carlos King Underscore to watch this because I'm so adnamated.

00:28:06
Speaker 2: I'm uploading this on YouTube. And by the way, Alexis looks smoking hot today. She always does that. She looks the lighting is lighting. Okay, look I am I'm getting jitters as if I took my work. I'll drink because I have this. I know it's gonna sound bad, but I gotta be honest.

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Speaker 3: I have a little bit of disdain for some of the Housewives audience, a little bit of it on social media.

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Speaker 2: I'll say that much because they don't care about the truth.

00:28:44
Speaker 3: They care about their own alliance to their favorite realities are so so they do they do because when the truth is in front of them, they make excuses for their favorite person that they like in terms of the show instead of being like, you know what, I love you, but I can also tell you that you're wrong for this. So anyways, I saw that to say Alexis hit the numb a head once again.

00:29:10
Speaker 2: They tell Katie.

00:29:11
Speaker 3: On the spot, hey, if you didn't say it, call this person on the spot. When they asked her, hey is episode one, show us the DM.

00:29:23
Speaker 2: If you're telling the truth, show us the DM. She claimed she had, thank you. She claims she had bad li fi. In this episode, Jen said, if you're.

00:29:35
Speaker 3: Telling the truth, called Kiki Monique, Well I'm not doing that, and Katie's and Jenny's like, let's call her, and she's like no, and then they flash back to the car where she's like, well, if I call Kiki, she's just gonna lie.

00:29:48
Speaker 2: What what the fuck?

00:29:49
Speaker 4: Okay, first of all, you're gonna call someone a liar who has zero zero history of flying and you have.

00:29:54
Speaker 5: Forty five just from last season to now.

00:29:56
Speaker 2: You're gonna call hr a liar?

00:29:58
Speaker 4: Oh okay, Kiki Mody, you better show up at Katie's doorstep and say, girlfriend, you got problems.

00:30:03
Speaker 5: Putting my name out there? Like that is getting so much from us. And she really does talk of the room a little hard.

00:30:16
Speaker 3: I know, And I've been I've been on reality Check that's hosted by Kiki Moneik and Derenda Medley, and look, Kiki is like so sweet.

00:30:29
Speaker 2: I'll say this about Kiki, this is the best press.

00:30:31
Speaker 3: Of the world, tod me because you are literally the ape housewife on this show. But once again is I just don't understand proof after proof after proof after proof that Katie is a known liar, and I think she's the one who needs to see Tamra psychotherapist because.

00:30:54
Speaker 2: I need to get down to the middle of what she's going through.

00:30:57
Speaker 3: But transitioning to Tamra, Look, Tamra is this polar riking figure in real life, She's a fun girl. I think Tamar also understands her assignment on the show, and she gives great TV. I felt bad for tam of this episode, and not because I know her. It's because I'm honest, right, I'm always honest with the coup of Tamra. I'm always like Tamara, I love you. But I feel so bad for Tamar because now that the truth is out, and this is what I want people to understand, Camera was accused of drugging somebody.

00:31:37
Speaker 2: Which is a horrible accusation.

00:31:40
Speaker 3: Horrible for all of you guys who hate Tamra, that's your prerogative.

00:31:46
Speaker 2: It's fine.

00:31:47
Speaker 3: Imagine someone lying on you again. Because Tamra did her job by saying, Gretchen, this is what was said. Gretchen said, I never said.

00:31:58
Speaker 2: That, guys.

00:31:59
Speaker 3: Gretchen, out of her own mouth set I never said that, which means, guys, it wasn't true.

00:32:05
Speaker 2: Right.

00:32:06
Speaker 3: So Gretcha is saying I didn't say it because it's not true, right, because if she would have thought tamar rupied her, Gretcha would have said one of two things, Yes, I said it, I did feel that way, or she would have said I didn't say that to Katie, but I did feel that way.

00:32:28
Speaker 2: She cried, you're not gonna hug the woman who you think drugged you. You're just not. You're not gonna try and hug the woman who you think drugged you.

00:32:37
Speaker 3: So imagine being Tamra in a room where all these women are now turning against you and saying, we think that Katie's coming true and Tamara, you have a history of lying, And it's like, for wait a second, whether or not Tamarra is a villain, no.

00:32:56
Speaker 2: One should be accused of being a drummer. Like, it's not okay.

00:33:01
Speaker 3: And tamer tweeted Alexis last week that the reason why she looked off is because she did.

00:33:09
Speaker 2: Take xanax and was drinking alcohol. So that's what she said, and.

00:33:16
Speaker 4: She said it in her confessional too, so she's not trying to hide it, like you know what happened.

00:33:23
Speaker 3: Yeah, So she said that in this episode she speaks to her psychotherapist, and one thing she said that I was like, you know what, I'm glad she's being honest about how she's feeling, because sometimes reality starts want to play it tough. The one thing she said that I was like, Okay, I love this scene is when she said.

00:33:43
Speaker 2: I want people to like me. I don't like him when people don't like me. And I'm like, that's the honesty that I appreciate because being the villain on the show isn't easy. And although we all may have taken it, she was talking about the friend group, I also believe she's talking about the way the world views her. What did you think about that moment?

00:34:04
Speaker 5: Well, I think a couple of things.

00:34:06
Speaker 4: I feel like the other part of this, which I'll get to your question, but I thought the other part that killed me on this episode, no matter who it would have been, whether it was Tamra or Heather or Gina or Emily or whoever was, I hate the fact that it didn't seem authentic for any of the women to actually think about what Tamra was going through in that that was in real time, that they had just found out about Teddy real time. And I was picking up pieces behind the scenes on the phone with Tamara all the time, just trying to get her to get fumped to even go film. I mean, it is a job, and you do have to do hair, you have to be makeup. She is crying a lot. She is constantly wanting to be by Teddy's side. She had so much on her plate that was real life that it kills me that none of the women look at that and go wow, if that was my right hand goal, that I would be not being a great place either, like with Tamara. So I that kills me. And then to add on top of that, the whole camera is being accused of something that's not true. The whole thing is just like I don't know how anyone can any of those other six women or seven women wouldn't go this, let's wrap around her and just hold her or just just like go light on her this one episode or filming, you know, or dinner or whatever.

00:35:19
Speaker 5: So that killed me. But what was your other part to that question? Because I wanted to get that out about.

00:35:25
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, just about the fact that yeah, like the fact that she admitted that she wants people she.

00:35:32
Speaker 2: Doesn't like that people don't like her. I thought, like that, that's real.

00:35:36
Speaker 5: That's so vulnerable and real to say.

00:35:38
Speaker 4: And that is why therapy is working for her, and she is becoming more vulnerable because she's opening in and tapping into that side of her that she's always put up a big wall.

00:35:44
Speaker 5: About and like, oh, I don't care, I don't care. Everyone cares. Carlos.

00:35:48
Speaker 4: Last year, when I was getting all the hate and I lacked like I've murdered a child, it was the worst you can ask anyone in my circle. I was never wanted to leave the house, didn't want to go out to dinners, didn't want to do anything except hybernanc bo horrible about how much people were misjudging me. And so, no matter who you are, whether you're portrayed as a villain on the show or whether you're a great person, you don't have skin thick enough to just go, oh it doesn't bother me, It does bother you. And and you know, you do have to learn to get thicked skin and turn you know, your look the other way. But yeah, it's it's vulnerable and it shows you that she's growing.

00:36:21
Speaker 5: So there you go.

00:36:23
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, it's listen. This season is great and I love it. I agree with you, alex.

00:36:31
Speaker 3: Is that I think this is just a tip of the iceberg based on what's going on, because in next week's episode they take a live detext your test and listen. This is my opinion. I don't care to see that as I'm wh why why.

00:36:48
Speaker 2: No no no no no no meaning this, meaning this, meaning this. I love a Real Housewife show because it's funny and yeah, you get the arguments and all that stuff. So I'm not saying about finding out the truth.

00:37:01
Speaker 3: I understand that what I'm saying is we have gone so far with these lies that this show has now become deadly as catch. It's now become an interrogation that's involving a lie detector test versus a show where it's like, let's call each other out, like you said earlier, let let let me just be honest about like, look, I said it, I fucked up. Give me some grapes instead of it's now so bad and people people don't trust each other so much on this show more that they now have to do a lie detector test. I just think how sad this has become.

00:37:47
Speaker 2: That's what I meant by that.

00:37:48
Speaker 4: Well, okay, so you know, we always talk real to each other even if we don't agree, but.

00:37:53
Speaker 5: I so don't agree with you on this. I don't agree.

00:37:55
Speaker 4: I'm so excited to see it because here's the thing, and why did doctor test?

00:38:00
Speaker 5: By the way, aren't always true.

00:38:01
Speaker 4: I think we've all learned that if you watch date line, it's like, don't take one because they are not accurate.

00:38:05
Speaker 5: This and that.

00:38:06
Speaker 4: Well, I went on marriage boot camp with my mom. It was the year before she got really sick.

00:38:10
Speaker 5: You thank god I did.

00:38:11
Speaker 4: It, and they gave us light to text or test and I passed mine with flying colors.

00:38:15
Speaker 5: But I was like, the whole time they're hooking you up, I'm like, I'm scared I'm going to get you know, I'm.

00:38:20
Speaker 4: Not lying that they're going to think I'm lying that the lightest is going to say I'm lying. So what I love about this is I do know that they're authentic for some of it, because my mom's was real and sure and I talked about it afterwards. I was like, well, did you are you honest? Is that a true answer? And I think my answer was do you resent your mom for the divorce and for you know, becoming from a broken home? And everyone would think I would say yes to that. I don't resent her for that, So I said no, and I thought, I'm still going to it's going to show I do. But deep down in my gut, in my heart, I never has resented her for that. I understood why they got divorced once I grew up. Right, when you're twelve, you don't. But then so the point I love about this is that these women are going to sit down now. Okay, several of them are lying or I should pay a couple or a few, and I hope that we get to see that.

00:39:06
Speaker 5: They are, like I hope.

00:39:07
Speaker 2: I don't know.

00:39:08
Speaker 4: I think it's going to be fascinating and even kind of funny in some ways.

00:39:11
Speaker 5: I just I just do.

00:39:13
Speaker 4: I mean, I know it sounds dark that, oh we've now, we've gone to light a Texas house. What's next We're gonna you know, I don't know. I don't know what will be next, but you know, to take their blood so we can watch. I don't know, no, I.

00:39:27
Speaker 3: Don't, I don't, I don't know, but listen, I an say your point of view too. In terms of like again, this season has been a big who done it? There's a game of clue, and now we're going to hopefully know the results of who's lying in that. And just so everybody understands, the logitexture test, which is not as a polygraph, is a pseudo scientific device that measures records several physiological indicators such as blood pressure, paul rest generation, and scan conductivity. While a person is asked an answer is a series of questions. So these are all the factors that comes into which is what letsis said.

00:40:11
Speaker 2: Look, there is this sort of like myth that look is not the best in terms.

00:40:19
Speaker 3: Of resulting in fact. But in a Lecti's case, she did her to flying colors and police officers in the corner of law, they still do allow this to be evidence in a case when it comes when a case goes to trial.

00:40:39
Speaker 2: Excuse me, So, look, we're going to find that out in next week's episode.

00:40:43
Speaker 3: But Alexis Ballina, this season is now getting to the point of a big who Done it? And what I'm hoping by the end of it is what the liars are revealed.

00:41:04
Speaker 5: But you know, you made a very good point. And it's like the viewers they might not even care.

00:41:08
Speaker 4: It's like they don't always they don't they don't care who's actually telling the truth or like in last season for me, like they don't care who really has the evidence and.

00:41:16
Speaker 5: Have the truth.

00:41:17
Speaker 4: They pity the person that they love the most, or they're you know, they're so I don't know what's going to happen, but I'm I'm excited after last episode, last night's episode, I'm I'm like, wow, this is I mean, even though I had to like I literally had to rewind it a couple of times cause I'm like, okay, wait wait, I don't because it was the cobweb that you need to make a.

00:41:36
Speaker 5: Sign next time, Carlos, and we'll have all the lines of.

00:41:39
Speaker 4: The viewers so they cannot really follow the story.

00:41:41
Speaker 5: Anyway, Let's see what's coming up. I'm excited.

00:41:45
Speaker 3: We'll see what's coming up. But a Bilina, thank you so much for topic on Reality with the King and I.

00:41:49
Speaker 2: Will see you next week.

00:41:51
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00:42:06
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00:42:09
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