Blake Clark Meets World

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Speaker 1: Okay. So I'm back here in Connecticut and my parents, because they're older people, has still have a landline. Great. So the phone rings today and I pick it up because I'm here. Uh it's a local number, and we hear. I hear sobbing on the other end, just horrible, pained, emotional crying, and the person cannot get anything out. And I hear, it's Greg. It's Greg. It's Greg. It's my brother, it's Greg. It's Greg. I've I can't even talk. I'm getting arrested. I've been in a horrible at talk to the police. So I hear, high, my gosh, it's a scam. It's a scam. I'm weren't expecting you to answer your phone. They thought it was going to be your parents. They know his you're their son's name, and they were going to try to get money to get him out of jail. I know this, dam because all of my grandparents have fallen for it. Dude, this happened, Yeah, this happened, dude. Alex's grandmother that the guy, the actor playing Greg, I want to find this person and signed them because he want a resonance. Sounded right, and they're sobbing, so much that you can't figure. Then the police, the police officer quote unquote gets on the phone, all right, sir, don't your your your son is okay? He or he said your brother because he knew it was me. It was okay. He hit his face, but unfortunately he was on his cell phone at the time. He was taking a left he slammed into a car, and a woman who was seven months pregnant has been very hurt. He's been arrested for vehicular Oh my gosh. So we're all now shaking. Oh right, you're gonna get a call in about five minutes, he's all I said, let me speak to my brother again. No, I'm sorry. He's in the back of the wagon. He's already handcuffed. You'll get a call with the case number blah blah blah. So we're going, oh my god, what the hell's going on? Call two minutes later from somebody else, and right as he started talking, I knew it was wrong, Like I just went, something's not right. He said, Well, the bond's already been set. It's for twelve thousand, five hundred dollars, but we've got it reduced for five hundred now from from fifty thousand. Now he doesn't know that both my parents are attorneys for three hundred years, and so they're looking at each other. I go, can you hang on a second? And I mute it and I go, this is a scam. My dad's like, there's you wouldn't have a bond already if he's in the back of the van, like, what what's going on? So as it's muted, the guy hangs up. We call my brother. Obviously there's a big snowstorm here. He's like, I'm shoveling off the driveway. What's going on. We're like, oh my god, we just got this call. We tell him this whole thing. As this happens, we hang up. I'm on the phone with my wife telling the story, and the guy calls back, Oh, it tries a kiss, So now he knows it's a scam. So now I get to play right. So the guy calls and says, you know, this is the sergeant again. We're checking to see did the lawyer call you? And I turn it on. Yes, he called. I'm just I'm so sorry. I'm so nervous right now. Can I please talk to my brother? I need to talk to my brother I'm sorry. He's now we've we've transported him. He's in the holding pen. I was like, oh, okay, you've got to get a message to him. And I said, okay, he goes to Okay, what is I said, the gold statue that my grandparents sent. We're having it melted down as we speak. We're turning them into gold ingots that are being polished. We are then sending them to a small tribe that is going to turn them into blood to get them to the vampire tribe that is going to release him from prison. My brother, my brother, and yelling in the room, my brother, Oh my god. And so there's dead silence on the other end, but the guys obviously still on the phone. I went, did you pick up that we got? It's a scam? Do you do? You know that? And then after that you just heard the click. But it was thirty to sixty seconds of just having so much fun. At this point, I thought you were going to start like asking for a badge number, or like just keep keep pushing him to go. But I love it. You just made it your a chance to shine. But you watched the color drain from my parents' face, and you're thinking these horrible scam artists that are out there, These are horrible, horrible human beings. I mean, yeah, I know, my my human being. My wife's grandmother before she passed, got scammed by one of these and sent hundreds of dollars off to who she thought was her grandson because he was in trouble and needed money and da da da da da, and she just didn't know. You know, it's playing on your love for your family, like we're playing love for your family. It's it's awful. It's awful. Yeah. My grandmother rest in peace, fell for it as well, and I think twice, I think two times, sent thousands of dollars, like twenty five hundred dollars the first time, and unfortunately we didn't know it the time necessarily, but she was battling some dementia and so then it happened a second time and she didn't like remember that the first time it had turned out to be a scam and you know, oh man, it's just unbelievable. And they did it to my other grandfather as well. You people, whoever you, you're probably not listening to pod Meat's world. If you're if you maybe well taking of your parents who are not listening to Pod Meat's World. Yeahparents, this landlines, all right, it's always if you have a landline, they can look up and they will know everything. Like in this situation, they knew even Will was his brother, and they knew Greg's name and like, so make sure your parents and your grandparents know that this scam is going on and that you will never call them if you need money. And then just don't never call them if you need money. Then this is going to backfire big day, bad idea. But just make sure they know this scam is going on and they verify that you need it two times two so terrified. Oh my gosh. I also I'm sorry you had that experience, Will, But I also want to just talk about highlight some emails that we got. It's been a while since I called out some shout outs for some emails that we had. Lucy f email just to point out that during her rewatch that she's been doing with us, she noticed that the Matthews kitchen table only has four placements and four chairs for eating, and she knows exactly who probably isn't eating with the rest of the family. And then we have to give a shout out to ABBYG who binged the whole podcast in five days. Wow, very impressive. She is twenty two years old, a little younger than our imagined demographic, and she said some very nice things about the show and most importantly us, So hello, ABBYG, who's probably so sick of our voices. Yeah, and then another one. Okay, we got a lot of emails agreeing with you two about the painful experience that is Goofy Sky School. But shout out to Eileen, a rare voice of defense for the ride. She admits to the fear of it all and that while on the ride, the idea of sweet sweet sleeps does flash right before her eyes. But she says if Goofy Sky School is wrong, she does not want to be right. That I'm never going that right. Did you ride or did you read? The one theory which is very interesting that the first time you see Sean wearing the jacket, he's wearing it at the Matthews house, so he actually stole it from Eric or borrowed it. Perfect he stole it, so that's the first time you see it. That's I love that theory. It makes perfect sense. And then which maybe he just then Eric never noticed, but no, that was the thing. I think it was a woman. I apologize if I'm wrong, but what she said was this was an Eric was going into his preppy phase, so he was over it anyway. So he was like, take, yeah, that's cool. I love that theory. He got trusted up for the band show, right, and we're on different clothes and I put on Eric's jacket. You put on Eric's jacket and that's it. There you go. I like that, very very cool. And you guys have been so wonderful and supportive of our Harley shirt. We only have two weeks left that we are offering it, and we have raised so much money for Danny McNulty and Namium, which we are just so appreciative of. So if you guys do not have your Harley shirt yet, I got mine. I love it. Uh. If you guys don't have yours yet and you were interested in getting one, you've got two weeks. Danny murch all right, well, welcome to pod Meet's world. I'm Daniel Fishel, I'm Rider Strong, and I'm Wilfred ll Well, gentlemen, if you think we get recognized out in public as, aren't you that person from that show or that thing. Our guest this week most definitely has us beat. With over one hundred on screen credits to his name, he has appeared in some of the funniest and most iconic movies and TV shows of the past three decades. He's most recognizable as a regular in Adam Sandler's Happy Madison Universe. You have seen him in The water Boy, Little Nikki, Fifty First Dates, Joe Dirt, Mister Deed's Grown Ups, Huby Halloween, and many more. Oh that's not good enough for you, Okay? Sure. On the movie side, he's also in The Mask Toys, Ladybugs, Leatherheads, and he replaced Jim Varney as the voice of Slinky the Dog in Toy Story three and four. Well, guys, how about just some sitcoms? He has those two New Heart Facts of Life, Give Me a Break, Who's the Boss, Roseanne Coach, The Drew Carey Show, and twenty three episodes of Home Improvement But Will. Most importantly, this man appeared on mash Yes he did he wash. Yeah, I knew that's all you'd care about. All we're talking about for the next hour. I'm sorry to everybody else listening when we're talking about him on match episode A couple. Well we'll find out, because right we're talking to take our headsets off. I'll go get a cup of coffee. But seriously, who cares about all that stuff? He is here today to talk about his time as the alcoholic trouble dad of Sean chet Hunter, who appeared in twelve episodes of Boy Meets World and did one return cameo eventually for Girl Meets World. Let's please welcome character actor Royalty. This is Blake Clark. I see the top of Blake's head and a moose. I think you just keep it on the moose school right there, bless of me? You see them better? Your hair looks great? Oh and so um well, let's still have it. It's it's one of the only things I still have. Oh he was a beard. Look at you? Oh yeah, you look great. You look great. Play old Blake. Look at that. Look at how well you guys have age? Oh my gosh, we're all old too. Now age? How old are you? Writer? Thirty seven? Are you kidding me? Forty three? Get the hell out of here. No man, wait, I gotta go start my heart. I remember one time I was playing this was years ago. I was playing, Oh did you guys want to talk about something? You just want me to go? I was playing this club in Detroit, and after the show, this couple, young couple, early twenties came up to me. Oh, I didn't know how old it were. Then I just killed the damn. I haven't done stand up, but it wasn't No, it's gotta be your bowl anyway. So they said, you're on one of our favorite shows, and I thought probably Home Improvement, you know, I said, oh, yeah, which one? They said, boy Me Swirrel? I went, should you be in here? They said our twenties? And then oh my god, yeah that was that was twenty years ago. So those people probably forties and divorced. Yeah, well, how old were you when you were on boy Me's World? You were probably my age, right, you were probably forties? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I didn't even move out here until I was thirty four. Wow. All these guys, you know, all these guys that I was friends with, comedians, they were all in their early twenties. So I'm not even that there and I was thirty four. Well one year was that that you moved out to La nineteen eighty? I've been here forty three years. So were you there with all the old school comedians like a like Andy Kaufman and kind of that whole crew. Did you know all that? Notauman? I was Leno and Arcineo and Seinfeld and Riser and uh geez, you name them. They were there. Letterman was already back in New York doing his job doing his show. Um prior was there, Robin? I mean I didn't, Uh, Robin. We became kind of friends. When he got Good Morning Vietnam, he wanted to know some stuff about it, so he you know, we hung around for a while and told him stuff, and he said, did you did you remember Adrian Cronarland? No, he was gone by the time I got Dude, they had a they had a Armed Forces radio, but it was Armed Forces radio. Right? How did you How did you go from Vietnam to doing stand up comedy? Well, it was it was a long trip. When I got home from When I came home for Vietnam, I met Sharon, who's my wife now? And uh, she didn't shoot at me, so I asked her married me? And then I did a bunch of I coached football in high school for a while. I had my own wine and Chief store, which, in making Georgia was not a good idea should have gone from moonshine. If I have sold Boone's farm in bell Vita still be there. Yes, I tried. I tried to bring a little sophistication to a very rich yeah, and it didn't. It didn't work. And then I had a bunch of other jobs that worked for a beer company delivering Uh it's funny. I lifted weights for like eight years. I got a little bit bigger, a lot stronger, but just a little bit bigger, and quit working out. When I got this job with them Miller Beer people, delivering kegs of beer in like six weeks, I was huge. So you know, working out doing work makes you bigger or kills you. Yeah. I did a couple other things here and there, and I started doing some somebody's wanted me to do this play and uh it was cold. Norman is that you? And Uh it's funny too because the two guys that wrote Norman is that You? I ended up they wrote a pilot for me. I ended up doing a pilot with them for NBC. They didn't get picked up anyway. How weird is that Ron Clark and Sam Bobrick ron Clark and Sam Bobrick. Ron Clark was from Kennedy, Sam Bobrick and Sam Bobrick was Jewish guy from New York and he wrote Andy Griffiths. You know Andy Griffin was Southern, is it anyway? Yeah? So uh yeah, so uh. I tried doing some community theater and I really liked it. So I figured, what the hell, I'll try this. And then so it was acting first. It wasn't comedy. First, it was acting. And then I started doing a little stand up. Somebody said, why don't you come guy a guy who ran a bar and making making Georgia That's where I was born, and raising making it. And I thought, and vietnamous like being punished for the same thing twice I used. I used to have flashbacks in Vietnam that I'd wake up in the middle of the firefight and be thank God, I'm not making anyway. You know what's funny too, is uh I think we were on Disney locked because we moved. You guys kept moving around, but I'd find you. You'd always find us. Move. Let's move quickly quickly. Oh, we gotta do some big discussion about the second Amendment. Oh yeah, yeah, And so I was spousing all this stuff about this, that and the other, and then everybody got real quiet, and that Rider was there. I don't remember if anybody the rest you guys there, and Rider was just kind of looking at me, kind of gently shaking his head. Just shut up, just shut up. From there? You don't remember this right? Sounding familiar? Yes? From then on whatever, I got a script on any show, I wrote STFU on it because I was not every conq shut that. I still do that I get, I get a script and on the front, I write STFU on it because I figured, I just thought, everybody, this is probably last Boy Meat's World I'm gonna do. But oh my gosh, do you remember auditioning for boy Meat's World? Yes, yes, it was on Disney. I know that was on Disney. And in the animation uh studio ANIMI building. Yeah, yeah, and I went in there and uh uh, I don't know, I just uh had played a character. You know, well, I'm my dear man. I did all that stuff, you know, I put up bit bit bigger than life and let's Simon as our watchers. Yes, and then I don't know, you know, I got the part. But then I was doing I was doing movies. I was one night one week I was on on the ABC show every night because I had a recurring role on your show, on your guys show, on Grace under Fire, Yeah, uh uh, home Improvement and they show there was one week I was on this. I was on the network every single night. And they thought, and they were saying, we don't know if Blake Clark can carry a show. Put me, put me on the They were gonna do a spend off with the hardware store, and they said, Blake Clark, this is true. They said, Blake Clark is not a romantic leading hardware. And then you were doing Jamie FOXX during our show, huh. And then you were on Jamie Fox's show while we were on doing our ship. You were on everything. You were just non stop, I know. And then I was doing movies with Standler. Yeah a lot of times, you guys, but you know I wasn't available to do Yeah Orlando doing Waterboy. Were you did you know Sandler from Stand Up No Maddim on a show called Shakes. The knew I was gonna say Shakes the clown because I remember I remember talking to you about your career, and you're being like, you want a weird movie. You want to you want to know you know what you'd like. Writer. I guess you just knew I like weird. You were like, you know what you'd like, writer, Shakes the Clown, and that's what you should watch. And I remember getting it and be like, this is the craziest thing. I also told you about the Confederacy of Dunces. Yep, yes, that's right. The first person told me you have to read the Versay of Dunces, and you did the same thing I did. About two thirds to the way through it, you went, I've lost interest. Yeah, I don't know what it was that, you know he did. He died before it was ever published. He won a posthumous Pulitzer. But it should have needed a rewrite, as did Shakes the Clown. If he had a couple of rewrites, it would have been a good movie. You know, it's a good movie, great movie. It was a movie. I got some stories about that book. Oh I was doing, uh, doing that movie. That's where I met Sandler and he got he had not gotten Saturday Night Live yet and we were doing the movie when he found out he got Saturday Night Live. So I called up fred Wolf, a friend of mine who was a writer on Saturday Night Live, and I said, hey, this is Adam. Take care of him. And they talked on the phone. This is before cell phones, you know, it was like a real I don't know it was. I don't even know where the phone I think it was. I think we may have had a flip phone. But right, Oh yeah, Hi Christy Carlsson Romano, Hi Wilfredell. How are you just so excited about our super awesome contest to become the next big voice actor. It has been so much fun watching these contestants pair off against each other, watching our celebrity judge come and help pick who's going to be the winner. This has been even better than I thought it could be. Absolutely and I think it's pretty competitive. Please join us as we are playing all of these awesome games to determine who is going to win the possibility of a career as a voiceover actor. This is just too cool. I know, I don't know if you guys know, but we're actually giving someone their big break with many many amazing prizes, including a one year contract with a huge Hollywood agents. Oh I can't believe we get to say that. Where can they find it? Christy Carlson Romano. Okay, well you should listen to I hear voices on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts or wherever you listen to podcasts. Now I have to ask, because we're talking about all the old stuff he's done. Now, I am a Mash fanatic. Yeah, so can you tell did you have any stories from Mash that I could hear? Because I'm just it's my favorite thing ever, just that I well, I was here. You know, the the last episode was like two hours long, I think, yeah and half hours long, and they had to bring back a lot of people that they you know, had used that were not killed or wounded or gone home or whatever. So it was they didn't have that many roles that we hadn't already been done. So I got the roles of this MP, and uh, I screwed up the line I was. It was supposed to be once the ceasefire is signed, then we have to swap prisoners. And I said, once to see CeaseFire's over, well that would go back to work. So I had to go. I mean, you know, nobody said anything then, and you know I was out there in Malibu and or doing the doing the thing, and I had to miss the we were It was around Christmas because Charles eigen Steers David he had like pneumonia or something, so they had to postpone the filming of it. And I had booked this comedy club in Atlanta and we were going to go home to make and to see my mom, uh for the first time. But I had to miss the first night of that show of that week because I had to stay there in film match. So anyway, I screwed up the line. I go back in later and Ellen Alder is the director. Yeah, right, I'm still just some I'm hick from Georgia. You know, I've done I've done. The tonight show is stand up. But uh yeah, I had to do due to voiceover. There was no way yeah over over, so doing it, kept doing it, kept doing it, and I went, I'm really sorry about this. And then he went and told the producers you know this Clark guy, And I said, because I went back for a show called after Match, of course, of course, yeah, I went in for that. And they said, you know, Alan all are never bad anybody, but Clark was a problem. And I went, yeah, you know, it was my first time I've ever done a voiceover. I've done it's Oh it's voiceover, and I went, yeah, it was voiceover, and I had you know, I was having a little try getting it. Oh, okay, fine, and so they cast me in that. Oh it's great. But you know that's the word was out because it was a problem. I was the problem before. Well I was a problem in the military. But that was my choice, right that the Smith could be a problem in the military. A little known fact for our Boy Meets World fans out there, which they might not have known this or not, but we've talked about on the show how Bill Daniels quit or was or threatened to quit after the pilot because he just didn't like the character. He couldn't find it. So Michael Jacobs had to go if Bill was going to leave, find another actor to play mister Feenie, and he had on the hook David ogen Stiers, who played who played Charles Emerson Manchester our mash was the one who was going to play mister Feenie if if Bill Daniels left. Yeah, I didn't know that at all. Yeah. Yeah, So bringing us back to Boy meets World. Do you remember then the first time you met writer and writer? Do you remember the first time you met Blake? It was it was the when the guy from the Monkeys came who played your dad? I think, right, Peter Tork ye ye, yes, okay, we would get we were supposed to talk to the class, right. That was the first episode I did. That's when I said I'm a idea man, you know, right, just took over the scene. Yeah, so great, Yeah, and well that's what they told me to do. I just you know what they said and chet Network News, you know, Yeah, I was just you know, real. I don't. I'm not. That's a I don't know if it's an attribute or or or deficit. Uh, I don't come on real, you know, I'm I have respect for people, you know, I don't. I don't. I don't come walking in there like I owned the place, you know. I look at it like I'm a lieutenant and all you guys are colonels. So I don't go in there and go, hey, how you doing My character would do that, but I don't, you know, I kind of come in and hey, how you doing it? And uh, I'm real? Uh. In fact, one of the first auditions, I went out. I didn't remember what it was for. I went in and the woman was on the phone. The casting director was on the It was over at CBS Radford. Yeah. I go in there and uh, it's in her office and there's a long walk you come in, and then she's her desk is way over there and there's a stack of scripts on her desk. And I came in and she was on the phone. So I just stood there and she motioned for me to sit down in a chair. So I sat, didn't say anything, you know, and then she h hung up the phone. I'm sorry, da dada, dada, that's okay. And then we did the did the reading, did the audition. Then I left. She tells my agent I had an agent at that time. There's my agent. Or he came in with low energy. He did the reading fine, but then he went back to low energy and I went, hell, that mean I was being colite. She was damn, I am come in there and interrupt her phone coup. She should have had me coming in at the time she was, you know. So I said, I don't know, maybe I'm not right for this acting gouff. So like when I did the first Tonight show. I didn't even have an agent. I had no It was like the uh I think I did another one that was the doorman at the comedy store as well as a comedian. I did the first Tonight show on a Wednesday Thursday night. I was back on the door. So I got an agent after that. How did you get the Tonight show without an agent? How did it get to you? I was the dormant as well as MC and I. You know on Thursday nights or Wednesday night said were big showcase nights. So all these people are dead now. A guy named McCauley. Uh him, well with McCauley first name, Yeah, what Jim, Jim McCauley. He was the pallet coordinated for comedy. But he would come in. I'd always make sure he got his seat and I'd give him a you know, he get his drink for him and all that. Take good care because that's the way I am. It's the way I was raised. I'm from the South. I was in the army. I was in the military. I was a frigging lieutenant. You know, I know how to treat people that are high ranking with the with the respect and uh, so uh he saw me, do you know I was him seeing So he saw me do this material about Vietnam, and he said, uh, you know you should do the show? What the show as the standout? You're kidding me? He goes, No, put together six minutes in a showcase for me. So I did, well, I didn't go that. Well, you know it was like, okay, well there goes that and then uh, I don't know a couple of weeks, three weeks later, he comes back to see Saint Paul Riser and you know, everybody would always show him their material at the comedy store or the umbro. See. He comes back and there's uh there I am. I go, uh, I got your table over here. Because they knew who was coming, they would have this list. And he goes, when you going to showcase for me again? You know what I thought? You didn't like me? He goes, I didn't like your choice of material. Get different material and showcase. I went, okay, So I did. I got the part, and then like I mean, I got the tonight show and I did it. Jeez, didn't you do huh you did him? Didn't you used to do a bit? I remember it wasn't one of your famous bits about having a camouflage wallet. Yes, that was my That was a bit that was real life, like what brother, you drop it? Yes, that's right he had, but he had an orange cattle. The wallet he kept in his pocket was a camouflage The hat he wore on his head was orange. How do you have a camouflage wallet? And he goes, I, huh, yeah, you hunt? You drop it out here. You're gonna hunt. You're gonna hunt bread And I what about what about your hat? He went, oh, my god, you that stupid. And I went, well, the same jeans that went into that brain of yours went in the mind. So you made a judge. He goes, dear, dear, as everybody knows her color blind, and so he went, well, that's really explained to the knee for a camouflaged wallet. I do remember that. Gosh, oh my gosh, writer, do you remember it feeling like a big deal that you were getting to meet your dad on the show. Yeah? I remember. I remember because you know, we had built up Sean's family, so watch obviously, as we've seen now watching the show, it was such a you know, it was a legendary thing. And then of course bringing in and I don't know when. I guess it happens second season, right, is Blake Blake on Zo? Yes, yeah, so we haven't we haven't seen the episode yet, Blake. So I'm just going off my memory because I, as we've talked about on this, I've never seen Boy Meets World. So I'm watching this for the first time and never sort of no, no, so this is you know, I'm learning about the show as we go. But so what I remember is that, you know, there was a sense of like, we're gonna bring in your dad and it's gonna be a thing. It's gonna be you know, And and this that classroom scene just killing. Like I just remember it being like, oh, this is so funny and this is so um, you know, Blake just Blake, like he's just he is who he is, and and and you brought so much life and charm um. But then that sort of was just on the surface. I feel like immediately you and I just bonded off camera, like I just there was I don't know what it was. I mean, I think I think it was. You know, you meet a lot of performative people who are funny and can be but they are frankly pretentious or always on and exactly like you're describing about yourself, you just weren't. You were saying you are so down to earth and so not pretentious and so willing to just be yourself and talk about your real life, and that that's what really bonded me to you. Like I just started immediately wanting to sit and talk and hear about stories, you know. I I remember talking about Vietnam. My dad was a VET from Vietnam, and I remember we just we just immediately connected, and it was like, I don't know, like I always kind of felt a little like the like out of place a boy meets world, and I feel like maybe you kind of felt a little out of place in Hollywood in general, and we just kind of had each other. Like I just remember sitting around and wanting to take notes and hear stories constantly, like there was a sense of like, you know, and then as the show went on and got more dramatic, it got even better because then I felt like we both kind of bonded as dramatic actors in the middle of a comedy, like you know what we were able to Oh, you guys were so nice and so welming, welcoming and so kind and warm and no egos, and you just, you know, you don't you don't know how impressive it is that for a man like me to see these these keen idols that you guys were, and the audience is going nuts and you just throw it off my others. It's crazy, you know, you know it never affected you guys. And I remember one time, I don't know how old you were, daniel maybe fifteen fourteen, yeah, and I was playing the club and oh god, where was it? Oh, it doesn't matter South and uh one of the other comics said, hey, could you give me Danielle's an autograph? And I went, you're a grown man. I don't know if I feel good about doing it. Just more autograph atograph picture. You remember Scream and I think I ended up hell and you I think he did. Yeah, yeah, you know, the guy's like thirty four years old whatever. I honestly used to it. Yeah, yeah, unfortunately I was. I was used to it, so I probably was like, that's a big deal. It's all you guys just kind of took it all in stride, you know, it was. I think a lot of it had to do with Michael Jacobs because he was so caring and he took looked after you guys. And I remember one time we were getting notes and uh he said something and and I stood up and said, Roger derbre does history, which was from the producers. Yeah, and he laughed. But you guys hadn't seen it yet, like fifteen. So he said, all right, that's it. Next week we're gonna you guys are gonna watch the Producers. Yeah, I remember that. I remember that. Yeah, no, no, he I remember. He was so upset that we didn't know the producers. It was one of the like I remember him going off on all of us, like what you don't know the producers? This is crazy? How can you be in the entertainment industry? Not the We were like, oh god, I'll probably think a way to go blank. God. We were We were used. We were used to hearing that we were out of line for not knowing stuff because Michael Michael used references all the time that we didn't and we would never understand them. And surprisingly, Will has become the Michael Jacobs contest. Will has references from things that were like, what what are you talking about? He knew all this stuff when he was teaching me. Yeah, it's crazy what Alan Smithy film was that will Yeah, he remembers movies before they were talkies. I do. I do. Well, that's because they're great before they were made. No, Michael kept that. One thing Michael was very very good at was he kept us all grounded. He really made sure that it never went to our head. I mean we've talked about this where he would gather us and say, I just want you all to remember this ends, yep, this could end tomorrow and at the end of the day, You've had an amazing experience. And he just he really made sure that we we never we like, ego just wasn't a thing on our set. We just were not allowed to have it. Yeah, No, it's true, it's he was. He was really really good at that, he really was. I wish we could work together more, Blake, You and I didn't get a chance to work together all that much, which is because the characters were kind of in different worlds by the point he came on. Yeah, and so never really got a chance. Yeah, unfortunately. But we hung out, yeah, which was nice. And I learned the left like I didn't know who I remember not knowing who Deno Rio was, and you were okay, chilly, yeah, yeah, the guy in the Edgar Edgar and many black Yepsen Ao, he was the same guy in full metal jacket. And I wasn't yet and I went, no, no, no, and I went and looked it up because I didn't he can't be and he was. He was. Yeah, Blake, do you have when was the last time you saw an episode of Boy Means World? Or uh, I wouldn't know that. I don't know when the last time I watched TV last night? I don't. He's been a while. It's been a while. I don't. I used to not like to watch myself right because self conscious, you know, cover my double ten or bit, you know, can't Hey, okay, why you saw don't watch yourself? Oh yeah, okay, So I have a I have a question then, So as as the resident television fanatic, take boy me trolled out of the equation. But you have been in some of the greatest television shows in the history of TV. Is yeah, yes, you have, Blake, we go through your rest osane. So my question is is there one that stands out to you? Is there one show that you were on that you you were like that that's the show, that's that's the show that really mattered to me, or what the experience was amazing, or you just loved the show. I mean there's family Ties and mash and you name it. You were on it. So what which one pops out to you. That's a hard question, geez, I don't know. Um there's still boy. Twirl was very important to me. And one of the things that that that I because the boy MutS were on, because of Home Improvement and because of Sandler movies, I had you know, pretty wide uh I won't say following, but they knew who kind of knew who I was, you know, like those kids in the club in Detroit, you know, and then older people that like when we were doing water Boy and in Orlando, we were at this old we were it was a night shoot. We were in this whole trailer park for old people, retired people you know that ain't dead yet, we're getting ready to be dead whatever kind of like it is down there now. And I don't understand this country and it is you know, if I could go back to Noam and I know what no one I go now, I think I would have surrendered let's get here here in my weapon. You guys got it right, but uh so this really frosted Snyder's uh cajonis uh in spades. These old farts were out there that way. I don't know who those guys. I know that guy, he pointed me. He's on that Yea. So they old people knew who I was, and you knew who I was, but the vast majority people in the middle had no clue. No anyway, Oh that's awesome. Yeah, so I it would be I don't know if it would be a television show. Maybe I guess the last episode of Match because it most washed episodic TV and history still is. And uh or it could be water Boy as a movie because that kind of put me on the map. Oh, everybody where you all of a sudden, you were to the point were you know, you'd walk out for Halloween and every other person was dressed like you for Halloween. I mean it was like it you became such a such an iconic character that it was just it was everywhere. That's so cool. Yeah. I told Sandler this, and and fred Wolf in Spain and all those guys. They said when I went to Iraq in Afghanistan with Robin. I'd start my show by going amount of time Babu Jana Field and they go nuts. They and you know, three thousand troops with weapons. They didn't want to piss them all. They had laser sights. That was a big world. We'd had that stuff anyway, and the night vision stuff to hit, yeah, and the como and the satellites. I never knew where I was in Vietnam. I was really hardly of a new world. Was in Georgia. But wasn't that important then? But so and then I do my little silly stuff and then at the end I would say, yeah, this place is uh dusty, and it's dirty and it's hot and it's dangerous, but just remember this, guys, holy way you make it. And they would go nuts again. So I told Adam that and told Fred Wolf who wrote show Dirt, and he loved it. I'm still doing boys. I still do Slinky Dog, what time I know La, I still do that the voice over stuff. So you know, I'm seventy seven years old. There were times when I thought I'd never seen the next day, and that was why I don't play tults anymore. But now there were times when I was pretty sure it was over and whatever happened happened or didn't happen. Most of them didn't because they would say, go tack that hill moment. I don't really want let's take that hill. I don't want it. I really don't. I don't want to be up there with with weapons, and they seem to want it. So I think we should let him have, yeah, some kind of time share with him. I want to I want to ask you another question about boy Meat's world because later in the seasons, uh we we brought in Matthew Lawrence and he played Jack Sean's half brother. How did having matt there change the dynamic between the two of you with father and son? How did that change everything? Well, I you know, I had two sons. Oh still do, and you know, so I kind of took that. I use that as a template. Whereas Ryder was you know, I guess my I guess he would be my favorite, but I knew him better. I didn't really know the other kid, you know, or a character was Yeah, but I don't I know Matthew. I mean, I had done give me a break with Joey and Matthew, you know, but he was just a little kid. Yeah, little toddler. So I've known him for a long time, and I don't know. I think it kind of worked out right because I think it called for me and writer to kind of bond closer, and he was almost we almost treated him like an outsider until he kind of said, you're treating me like an outsider, and then we tried not to so the characters and uh, you know, but I don't know. I just kind of let it play out that this is the kid I know. The other kid I don't, but I've learned to know him. I fist he is my son. Yeah, did they ever did Did they give you a heads up that they were going to do a whole chet die see episode? Or was that just out of nowhere? Jesus, they can't mainly said you're dead? Okay? Are we the only show that had you die and then come back? Come back? A ghost? Couple of things, A couple of things. He's done so much work he's done at all. Oh my god, that's that's my specialty. It comes in and now put ghost work and your special skills, right. I think it was more as a ghost than I think that's true. You did end up doing like three or four episodes after you die girl yea with a cast on my leg. Yeah, that's right, that's right. Things. Ain't you better when you get you still get injured? Jeez, Oh my gosh. What do you remember about coming back and doing Girl Meets World? What do you remember most from that time? Um, that I was in the Cats sounds about right. And it was so nice to come back and everybody was so nice that oh well, you know, they really acted like they were happy to see me and and everything, and and uh, it was just it was really cool. And um, I was just it was like coming home to a family reunion, you know. Always I always mentioned you guys, and that you're like a family to me. You know, I'm like a distant uncle who who your mother says, don't listen to your uncle. But yeah, you also know you're gonna have the best dinner when I was telling you the damn truth exactly. Oh my gosh. Uh. Now this is Boy Meet's World, premiered thirty years ago, Yes, thirty years ago, this year, clear night. Do people still to this day come up to you and ever mentioned Boy Meets World the time? Oh? That show was you know that I grew up on that show. That show raised me and these wonderful people who it was a part of their life. Yeah, you guys raised a generation of Americans. They've talents, were either working or in jail and they are both. They you know, they because boy always had a good always had a good message. Yeah. Do you get recognized just for your voice? Sometimes? Yeah, I can imagine, like as I mean, for me, it's obviously so a part of my life. But it's like the second I can imagine if the supermarket somebody hears you three aisles all right, they're gonna be like, wait, I know that. Now. They'll go, uh so they'll ask me a question and I'll answer it and they go, hey, wait, yeah you're that guy. You know, it depends on who that guy is. Guy, are you who I thank you? And then who you think I am? You can't say yes, sure, I'm the guy, and then you know, find out that they owe you money, you owe them money or something or worse. Did you do a Jim Varney impression before you were Slinky Dog or did you Yes, that's how I got it. He used to do stand up and he was he was just funny as hell, very original. Well, he did this character. He'd lay on the he said, he'd lay on the on the couch with a stack of magazine, scratching his back on are you are you cooking beans? What time is it is? Zar? The yelling of his mother in the kitchen is zoro? What happened? Bro? Why don't you make some fudge? What happened was that ernest? Well it was sort of no, it was a character or a kid, and the Ernest kind of came out of that, came out of that. Okay, Yeah, he did the earnest character for a long time. He couldn't do it on stage and stand up because the whatever company was that did own the character. Oh crazy didn't do it. You know. He couldn't go on the road do it. At least that's what he said. Maybe he just didn't want to. But he was a character. It is very smart. And he was a Civil war and Revolutionary war h Buffonado. And he'd go ahead, tell me, give me a date. I don't tell you what happened, okay, May twenty fifth, seventeen seventy four. And if he didn't know anything, he'd go he'd say, you know, you picked the one day in history. What nothing happened? I did he know that you did an impression of him? Yeah? Oh yeah, everybody did an impression of the army. What We did a movie together called Fast Food, which was a terrible movie. It made shakes shakes. The clown looked like Shakespeare. That's that's another funny thing. That was one of the agents at Triad at the time. It was Triad and uh they represented Kenneth brown Yeah yeah, and also me. So I had to call up because they were the company that did shakes. The clown was trying to get us to work for free. So I said, all right, I don't do it. Is everybody, what are we gonna do? What are we gonna do? We should complain though, and oh all right, damn, I'll do it because you know, I was like the lieutenant and and now I'm when we were out in the bush and go they're always into this, into the ship they'll do you know, Okay, I'll talk to them. So I had to go and talk to her and I and I said, yeah, you know, you represent one guy who does Shakespeare and another guy who does sha yeahwood, yeah, yeah, cheez. Kenneth Browner unbelievable. Yeah, we had to say agent, oh my gosh. Well, I mean, Blake, thank you so much for being here. Writer. I feel like this is I really do feel very close to Blake for you, writer, Like I feel very much like this kind of emotional swell of like fatherhood in this room. Well, you guys really dead and and uh, you know, it's like I told Matthew, I said, you know, I'm honored that your your fathers. You had Steve Martin as a found Robin's father and pretty good company there. Yeah that's right. And what's Tony Quinn? Yeah? How's he doing? Great? Great rate? Yeah? Yeah, we had him on the pot if you weeks ago? Where really next time you have him on down? I said, huh, will I tested his patience? Oh? I think I can imagine why. I'm a bit of an iconic class. I don't. I don't adhere to too many religions, right, so we got to do a lot of That's when I started writing you. I mean, I think that speaks to something that was true. We would get into it on point before. I remember sitting around backstage. But yes, yeah, yeah, well, Blake, thank you so much for being here and taking time out of your schedule, and just thank you so much for being with us and being a part of our most formative years and sharing in some of our greatest memories and making us laugh. Thank you from being a part of my life and informative for me. And you all look wonderful, don't you out of you age for God's sake, Not true, we're at all, but thank you feel it. But I don't have a glass exactly. We love you by bye. Oh my gosh. Wow, it's just like I remember. I was, just like I remember, just the same. It's so funny, you know, you because the show ends because you move on. You just but every time I get I'm in a room with Blake, it's like exactly the same. Everyone. I'm laughing, we're telling stories and yet you know, and and he's very he's very funny, and he makes you know, sort of little jab jokes, but he's never mean, and he's super likable and smart, and just I remember he would he would take these stories, and a lot of them were about Vietnam, and and he would be telling something that was so unbelievable, something that just my generation didn't know anything about until the first golf war and still nothing compared to Vietnam. But it was just and then he would turn it around to make it this life lesson and then turn it around into a joke. Yeah, and it was. You were on this roller coaster with him as he was telling these stories that were just so engaging and so engrossing. It was awesome. It was awesome. He's also one of those people who you ask him a question about one thing, and then in getting to the answer to that, you're like, I have now seventy five more things I need to ask you because you have one little sentence about something else that I go, well, next, we need to talk about that. And by the time he's done, you're like, Okay, how much time do you have because I have to ask you about all these things. Yeah, you can do an entire show just about being a comedian in the eighties. You could do an entire show just about being in Vietnam. You could do an entire show just about growing up in the South when he did I mean, you name it, and it's just the shows he was on, just the movies that he did, just that we didn't even touch on the fact that he performed overseas with Robin Williams. But I know how to blow by those things because there's so much to talk about. He's just in insane league. And I love that his wife Sharon was just right off and has heard all these stories and he was just really world so great. She came with him to Girl Meed's world like and like people people in general don't bring their spouses to seth like that's sort of like a but he they're just so down to earth and comfortable and it's just like you. Yeah, it's amazing. Well and to the to the credit of Michael Jacobs and those sets he creates. He wants you to bring your family, bring you, bring your spouse, bring your children, bring you up, bring bring like he wants. He wants, very very rare and and that was highly encouraged. Um. Now I have a I have a quick question which we might not know other than you, Danielle, who I know you started at the beginning and we're quote unquote a guest cast, but nobody considers you a guest cast. Who do you think as a guest cast? Reoccurred the most because you said he did what twelve episodes Danny did eight? Right, who do you think did did the most? Twelve's got to be up there. Well, Ethan and Ethan and Blake, didn't we say sixteen? Were they sixteen? Is that what I h They were hired a lot higher than Danny because they stuck around. Yeah, probably because there were definitely episodes that Ethan was in that Blake was not. Blake wasn't okay to hold the quote unquote record of the guest guest cast who was there the longest? Right? Okay, yeah, okay, just curious, man, what a guy? What a guy? What a what an interview? I'm just yeah, I'm sorry. I was a voice over actor. What a voice I know? I know. Like Ryder said, I was thinking as he was talking, you'd never be able to make a phone call and ask for a reservation or do anything like, you know, even just try to like get into an argument with somebody on the phone, like over a credit card thing or like something and not know immediately who you were talking to. Yeah, yeah, yeah, pretty pretty incredible. Well, thank you guys for joining us for this episode of Pod Meats World. 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