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On today's Dan Patrick Show, DP and the Danettes discuss Venezuela's World Baseball Classic championship. "First Things First" co-host Nick Wright gives his all-time college basketball starting 5 and shares the story behind the biggest gambling loss in his life. They also discuss USC asking Matt Leinart to unretire his jersey.

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00:00:00
Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox Sports Radio.

00:00:05
Speaker 2: Made it till Wednesday, It's our one. A lot of fun last night, two close basketball games and a very close baseball game as well. Venezuela overs Ball Championship, Howard Moves on and Texas over NC State Basketball Tonight Prairie View against Lehigh, Miami Ohio against SMU. It's weird to have a play in game or first round, opening round, whatever we call it, and make it a must win situation. But it feels like that for Miami Ohio. It's like there was a lot of discourse about this team, how good they are, should they be in and here they are not very far from campus, less than an hour away from Miami and Oxford, Ohio playing in dayton tonight against SMU. But it does feel like you better win this game. You better win at least one game. Eight seven to seven three DP. Show operator Tyler sitting by, you'll take your phone calls good morning. If you're watching the show. You can download the app on peacock and you can also watch on NBC Sports Network. Stat of the Day brought to you by Panini America, the official trading cards of the program. Make sure you sign up. You got another day to do it the Bracket Challenge at Danpatrick dot com or social media platforms as well. First hour of the award nominated program brought to you by Dude Switch to life Changing Wet extra large flushable Dude Wipes. Wetter is better available at Amazon and major retailers nationwide. Dude Wipes best clean pants down, All right, Gang's all here, the Minister of Humor, Fritzie Seaton, Marv Pauling, yours truly, and the backroom guys as well. Baseball was fun. Here is the final out of last night, with Venezuela beating the United States.

00:01:53
Speaker 1: One into the count, two outs, three two, Venezuela US patting last of the nine.

00:02:00
Speaker 2: Lencia set the one two pitch, so.

00:02:02
Speaker 3: I got an ass.

00:02:03
Speaker 2: Venezuela wins the WBC.

00:02:08
Speaker 1: Nine players fall to their knees.

00:02:12
Speaker 3: They can't believe.

00:02:13
Speaker 1: That they've done it. They upset the US. Venezuela is the twenty twenty six WBC champions.

00:02:23
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a great atmosphere there. That's what you want. And you're watching Team USA and I know it's it's probably a big blanket to throw over this. I don't know how much it meant to Team USA, Like this wasn't you know, the United States against Canada and hockey in that moment, it just felt like Venezuela. It meant everything to them. And I don't know if you can make somebody care more. I mean, Aaron Judge, Bryce Harper, I'm sure they wanted to win. By the way Aaron Judge getting roughed up on social media. They can't play big in the big games there. But you know, it was just it was a good jump start to the season. That's the way I viewed this, a good jump start, and you know, you could take inventory and know who some of these players are or maybe attached to their countries as we move on. So I thought it was a really good couple of weeks for baseball. Now we go into a little more Spring training and then Opening days around the corner, there's going to be talk. John Smoltz yesterday was saying, hey, why don't we do this and have a final four at the All Star Game and then have a championship. You have the All Star Game and then you'll have Cooper's Town with the Hall of Fame induction ceremony. I get it, but I would rather let my players play in spring training than in the middle of the season. They want to play in the All Star Game. Okay, normally you'll get guys who play maybe just a couple innings. But we're trying to make it bigger than I think what it can be. And keep this in mind, the next WBC is in twenty thirty, so there's no real all next year or the year after that. You got the Olympics coming up as well, So this momentum that we have to now, let's do something different. Look, twenty thirty, that's a long way away. Eh, Yeah, So it doesn't happen next year, and then you're gonna have the Olympics coming up, and then I think it's twenty thirty the next time we have the WBC.

00:04:27
Speaker 4: Yes, Marvin, are we going to do the show for the next WBC?

00:04:32
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm going to be retired little reunion. No, No, not for that. No, not for that.

00:04:41
Speaker 5: We only got back together for that.

00:04:43
Speaker 2: For the for the WBC. Yeah, you know, what's the event that could bring you back just for a one off the WBC. It would kind of be awesome. Really, No, it wouldn't. No, it wouldn't no, But congratulations to Zuela. Yeah, but they did care. I mean, you had those guys sobbing, they're singing their country's anthem. They're getting their medals, although you could tell where Kyle Schwarber, Mason Miller, I think they got their silver medal and they're like, no, we're not. It's like, you know when they gave up Teddy Bears at the Olympics to Canada. You got these tough guys there and they give you a Teddy Bear. I go, man, don't think we need to do Teddy Bears? Yes, God, and listen Wimbledon. You know there's a trophy and there's a plate. Both of them are decent looking trophies. You want the you know, you don't want the plate. You want the trophy.

00:05:36
Speaker 6: But you know, either don't give anything out for second place, or I make it something a little more substantial.

00:05:41
Speaker 2: And you had these moments. Bryce Harper had one of those moments last night where it's a two run homer to tie the game. But how many times have we seen these big moments get forgotten? Harper's moment will be forgotten. How about Jermaine Jermaine curse? In the Super Bowl against the Patriots Super Bowl forty nine, That unbelievable catch, Julio Jones's catch against the Patriots Super Bowl fifty one. RAJ Davis the Indians Game seven home run against the Cubs in the World Series. Kind of forgot about that as well. And then I mentioned Aaron Judge. So his struggles continue in big moments. Zero for four with three strikeouts last night. You go back to the twenty twenty four World Series where he batted two twenty two four for eighteen, seven strikeouts in five games against the Dodgers. I'll take him, you know, if you don't want him, I'll take him. I'm pretty good, certainly in the regular season, but stepping up in the moment. Bryce Harper had his moment last night with a two run homer. But Schwarven didn't do anything. I think he had four strikeouts or they like to say punch outs. And then Aaron Judge as well. All right, poll question for the first hour of the program, seat is going to.

00:06:55
Speaker 3: Be what.

00:06:57
Speaker 7: We got a couple oposits for you here. The World Baseball Classic should be, it should stay in the preseason, or it should be part of the All Star break.

00:07:08
Speaker 2: Okay, I already stated my piece on it. I don't want my players. All Star is an all Star break, and the and the season is long, and this is July, and I'm fine with spring training. But once again, we're not going to be playing for four more years with this format. And I think that's why in everything that we have with this, it's going to dissipate and we're gonna forget like man who won the last time. Oh yeah, venice away, All that's right, but it's four more years like Japan bows out, you know, now we start the regular season.

00:07:48
Speaker 7: Yeah, but they sometimes it's harder when you have something great on your hands, it's more difficult or the bigger problem is knowing what.

00:07:57
Speaker 2: To do with it. Yeah, you know.

00:07:58
Speaker 7: I mean it's clearly uh causes gets generate some excitement, get some momentum for the game, which is which is great.

00:08:06
Speaker 2: Now it's like, Dan, what the hell do we do with this? Yeah, you can't do anything. You could problem. You can talk about it, you know, buster on you the great writer with the mother ship he talked about He echoed what John Smoltz pointed out. But once again, this is four years down the road. I think people think this is an every year occurrence and it's not going to be. And then you have the situation with Mason Miller. Okay, you're not coming in unless it's a save situation. You got to negotiate, you know, the Venezuela had to negotiate with the Cubs, you know, when their closer came in, Mason Miller with the padres and then you're negotiating, Hey, he can only come in in a save situation. How long are you going to be able to pitch?

00:08:47
Speaker 5: You know?

00:08:48
Speaker 2: And that changes the game. So we got to kind of be all in on this. Like I love the Four Nations, but I love that because the United States and Canada, you know that rivalry and you're dropping the gloves and you're fighting, and it really meant something there. You can't tell hockey guys to go. They take it easy. You know, Hey, he's only going to play four shifts tonight. That ain't happening. It's going to be Hey, we're playing, we're winning. Yeah, Pauline, it was interesting last night ninth inning. They need their best closer, Mason Miller and Mark de Rosa goes with Whitlock, the reliever out of Boston, I think, and clearly that's a second tier guy in compared to Mason Miller. Could you have gone the other way and said, I'm not coaching this team in four hours. I can't be fired for this. No you can't do that. Yeah you can't.

00:09:39
Speaker 4: What if you asked Mason Miller, No, you.

00:09:41
Speaker 2: Can't because you have an agreement with the Padres and I don't. You can't. Now. I think players in other countries, if they had the opportunity, like the closer for Venezuela, who's the Cubs closer? When does it plenty? See Daniel Palencia, Okay's he's fun. I get the feeling. If it wasn't a safe situation, if it was reversed and it was the Mason Miller situation, he probably would have said, hey, I'm coming in because if you look at his teammates, look at how emotional they were like. This wasn't just a hey, this will be fun, this was oh my god, we got a chance to win. And I get the feeling. He probably would have said, Hey, I'll take the heat from the Cubs. I'm going to be in that game. Yeah.

00:10:32
Speaker 7: See, I feel like, you know, looking ahead four years from now when you have Venezuela winning in Japan, United States and Dominican Republic underperforming. Those are built in storylines heading into that next one that are really great.

00:10:48
Speaker 2: But you don't know how many players who played in this year's WBC will be there in twenty thirty, Like you'd like to have that boy he's going to get a chance at redemption or you know, Aaron Judge, Kyle Schwarber probably won't be playing. Bryce Harper probably won't be playing in four years. But yeah, I mean it's disappointing that you can't capitalize on this because you had a moment. It was fun, enthusiasm, and I love the spirit of these other countries. You know, we get caught up in you know, play the game the right way and they you know, they celebrate differently, bat flips, all of that. It it meant more to them. The spirit of the game, the passion of the game was very, very evident. There's no room for that. Yeah, we can't what is what this excitement? Play the game the right way, you know, just run the bases and sit back down. I used to be I I used to be come on and then you I love passion. Now if you're down, you know, nine to one, and you hit a home run and you do them back then you shouldn't be smacked.

00:12:01
Speaker 8: But I love the passion. Yes, Martin, it is wild. When why are you having fun playing a child's game? This is crazy? Act like you've been there before.

00:12:12
Speaker 2: Uh, they haven't been here before, yes, Martin.

00:12:15
Speaker 8: Also I do love the legends that come back for their respective countries, like Johan Santana is the pitching coach. Who you saw, Miguel Cabrera, You saw Andy Pettitt. I haven't seen Andy Pettit since. I mean, I won't say the last time I saw him, but I mean, yeah, it's been a while. So Ken Griffey Junr was there last night. Gary Sheffield was there last night. So it was a great TV production. Also, Albert poohles, I know Themican Republic.

00:12:40
Speaker 2: PAULI goes, man, there's a guy in the dugout. It looks like Albert Pooles, just like that, And I said it's Albert Pooles. He goes, oh, I keep going, is that that guy looks like Albert Pooles?

00:12:51
Speaker 4: Well it took me seven anes, all right, to be fair.

00:12:54
Speaker 2: Huh right, But yeah, it was fun to see it, but you know, trying to figure out what to do with this energy. I just think it's a great jump start for the seat, like I'm excited for Opening Day.

00:13:07
Speaker 7: Yeah see, I really thought that was Bryce Harper's moment. Yep, I really did. I thought that whole I was like, gosh, that's his career right there. That is the exclamation point on his career.

00:13:16
Speaker 2: What a moment. Has he been in the major leagues for fifteen years?

00:13:20
Speaker 4: Yeah, he started at nineteen.

00:13:22
Speaker 2: Isn't that amazing?

00:13:23
Speaker 4: Yep?

00:13:23
Speaker 9: He's going into year fifteen, twenty twelve at age nineteen, he was Rookie of the Year. I think he's got seven All Star appearances, two MVPs, and a bunch of average years. He also has an NLCSMVP.

00:13:38
Speaker 2: Okay Foe Gune conclusion Hall of Famer right now. Two time MVP Washington won a World Series after they traded him. Yes, pont this is a two.

00:13:51
Speaker 9: Part discussion, and we used to discuss this with mcglevin. Bryce Harper's going to the Hall of Fame. You make seven eight All Star games, you have two MVPs, You're going. But you could also make the case at was his career everything It was meant to be or predicted to me. Those are two different topics.

00:14:09
Speaker 2: Well, he was the chosen one. He was on the cover of Sports Illustrated, just like Lebron when he was what fifteen, Not exactly the Lebron of Major League Baseball, but you know, a very good career.

00:14:28
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Or you didn't say that woman's confidence.

00:14:34
Speaker 2: Yeah, that doesn't sound yeah, it doesn't sound like Fama.

00:14:37
Speaker 10: No.

00:14:37
Speaker 2: I don't think he's a first ballot Hall of Famer, but he's going to be a Hall of Famer. I think he's at times been a great player, but there are dips in his career.

00:14:49
Speaker 9: Yeah, Pauline, that's exactly right. He's had three great seasons. He's had about ten good seasons. Yeah, and some of those seasons he hit you know, two forty nine with thirty four homers. There's nothing wrong with that, but not when you're expected to be one of the greats of the game.

00:15:05
Speaker 2: Yeah.

00:15:05
Speaker 7: But he had two MVPs and they were six years apart. That's pretty good. It's not like he had two or two really great seasons out of three or something. He showed a certain amount of sustained excellence. That's Hall of famy.

00:15:19
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, but that's kind of what I'm saying. It's hall of faming.

00:15:24
Speaker 4: You put a y on the end, you know what I mean.

00:15:27
Speaker 7: I'm just for the sake of the conversation. I don't know that I'm a diehard first ballot Hall of Famer. I'm just saying that two MVPs six years apart is feels hall of famish.

00:15:36
Speaker 2: Okay, Yes, Tod.

00:15:37
Speaker 6: If you don't match or exceed wild expectations, I don't think you get dinged to the point where you don't belong in Cooperstown. It's something you'll have to live with as a person, as an athlete that I could have been much better than was expected to me. But you still, you know, you still get into the Hall, even if it takes a little while.

00:15:52
Speaker 2: Yeah, I get it. We're the one that put the expectations on him Sports Illustra to put him on the cover. Yes, Tod.

00:16:00
Speaker 6: Do you think it would take a lot of luster off the WBC if they did it like the Ryder Cup and did it to every two years instead of every three or four years like we were saying, some of these guys may not even been on the team, but they'd be more likely as far as with the storylines, if they were playing two years from now as supposed to waiting four and just keep that momentum going a little bit meet halfway.

00:16:17
Speaker 2: You know, let me take a break think about that. I see what you're saying.

00:16:21
Speaker 4: Feasible.

00:16:22
Speaker 2: Yeah, nice, Yeah, yeah, thank you, Todd. Okay, Erry, Once in a while I surprise the group. How about we take a break, just getting started, phone calls coming up. We'll talk some football. Our good buddy, Nick Wright, will tell us why the Kansas City Chiefs getting Justin Fields. That's a great move for them. At least I'm gonna ask him the question. I assume he's gonna be fine with Justin Fields as his quarterback to start the season. We'll take a break. We're back after this.

00:16:51
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00:17:01
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00:17:34
Speaker 2: I saw where Matt Liiner, former USC Great Heisman Trophy winner. I guess somebody may be a recruiting coordinator at USC ask if he would allow them to retire his jersey number eleven at USC, and he said no, And why do we retire a jersey? Can we honor a jersey? Do we have to retire? You know, the Yankees have retired twenty two numbers, including one through ten. Now, I don't know if Matt Liner will retire, you know, as he said, Hey, I'm going to unretire my jersey and get well, you know what, Marvin play that and then we'll get to Nick.

00:18:14
Speaker 3: Right.

00:18:15
Speaker 2: So here is Matt Liiner being asked to unretire his jersey at USC.

00:18:20
Speaker 11: When I was at USSE I got my number retired. There's been multiple times where people at USC have asked me if I would unretire my jersey for some five star prospect and do you want to know what I told those guys straight up, absolutely fucking not. I am never going to unretire my jersey for some random dude who, by the way, now could wear number eleven and transfer after a year. The only person that will ever wear my USC number eleven would.

00:18:50
Speaker 2: Be Cole Okay, Cole being his son. We apologize for that that slipped by the goalie there, Yes, Paul, which.

00:19:00
Speaker 4: Bothers you if anything, Matt Liner saying no, or Matt Liner being.

00:19:04
Speaker 2: Asked a recruit saying hey, I want that jersey number. Yea, as Linard said, hey, somebody may come in, they might be here for a year. I'm going to unretire my jersey number. And if you win a Heisman at USC, I think you get your jersey retired. But we can honor like the Cowboys. Don't they honor numbers, they don't retire them.

00:19:27
Speaker 6: Yes, Todd, but Matt and no one else in that situation should be asked directly been put on the spot, and I had absolutely no problem with him saying no, it was retired. That's the number. No one gets to wear you.

00:19:37
Speaker 2: And it's multiple times that he was asked.

00:19:39
Speaker 7: Yes, yeah, you know, I don't know that I've ever really thought about the concept of retiring numbers as not being a good idea, but that, you know, like a ring of honor is makes way more sense than retiring them.

00:19:50
Speaker 2: Let's bring in Nick Wright, host of First Things First on Fox Sports one and What's Right with Nick Wright. You can find it on YouTube wherever you get your podcast.

00:20:01
Speaker 5: To me again, please now, because I'm sitting here listening to just a chorus of bad takes and my MIC's not on, and I can't fix any of it. Like I don't know what every take I heard there was bad. The first of all, retiring jerseys is awesome, and you're like all the Yankees they've retired twenty two numbers. Well, luckily we're not running out of numbers. Luckily we got plenty more to come, so we're fine. That's first of all. Second of all, it's not the recruit's fault for asking the recruit that wasn't born when Matt Liner was playing for USC. He doesn't know every school that's recruiting him the list of retired numbers. It is the school's fault for then asking Liner like you can't put it on it because I remember something happen with Steve Large and Seahawks number, and they went and asked his family. No, if you make it, should there should be gravity to retiring a number. And then you can't then retroactive like didn't have with Lawrence Bailer and Abdul Carter. You can't then go ask the guy to unretire it. I had another take here, but I forgot it. There's just so many bad takes in there. Oh, I know, I don't have a take. I've very very good.

00:21:13
Speaker 9: Hold on hold on what Paul okay, Nick, Let's say the New York Giants football team, they've retired fourteen jerseys and one hundred years. Unless the earth ends in four hundred years, they're going to run out of numbers at some point. Based on this page, right.

00:21:27
Speaker 5: I understand, which is why it is now now the threshold to have your number retired only raises. It becomes much much harder as it should, and so I'm fine with that. Also, you're anticipating, Paul, a four hundred year future where we don't where it's still there is a taboo on three digit jersey numbers. Who's to say, that world doesn't exist. Somebody all of a sudden's number one fifty four. There's nothing wrong with that. Can I tell you a quick Matt Lionerd anecdote I'm going to two years ago. I'm at Yankee Stadium for the World Series, walking through the concourse and I'm walking and I see someone who's a little taller than the crowd, who I don't instantly recognize, except and I'm walking by myself, and I'm pretty secure in my masculinity and sexuality. But I'm just being honest with my friends Dan Patrick and Crewe, and in my brain, my inner monologue is, that might be the most gorgeous person I've ever seen in my life, just standing almost like ascending past the crowd. And then I'm like, wait, this person is walking towards me. Wait this person is extending a hand. And then I realized, Oh, that's Matt Leiner, who I've worked with. But I was just so disarmed by just seeing him in the wild and his natural beauty.

00:22:49
Speaker 2: Mom did.

00:22:51
Speaker 5: I I think I told him on the air the way I told you guys. Maybe I didn't mention being comfortable my sexuality part of it. I don't want to make them uncomfortable.

00:23:01
Speaker 2: Well, but yeah, you haven't been around Brady Quinn then, so you know, you know not my type. Brady Brady Quinn is c G I you know, speaking of bad takes, you're Matt Laner. Okay, all right, Uh did.

00:23:19
Speaker 5: You want my college basketball top five?

00:23:21
Speaker 2: You got one?

00:23:24
Speaker 5: Well, I feel like there are three must includes. Okay, We're gonna do players you saw. Oh no, I can't do Okay, I don't have that ready. Kareem is my five, Luel Sender Walton's my four. I'm gonna play them both and I think they'll figure it out. And Pistols my two. There is a debate at point Oscar magic. I'm going to go Oscar and then there is uh not a hole. But the only hard position to fill is your three, and you different ways you could go with it. I lean Larry Bird. I would listen to you on if you think I am being too much of you know, a slave to the history, and that the youngest guy on my team is Larry Bird. That does seem a little odd. I'm being honest, but I don't I I don't know that anyone else comes to mind. And it is the greatest college basketball players of all time, unlike almost any other ranking are going to always be these old timers because nobody is gonna play three or much less four years moving forward. So like you'd have to go to like a Doug McDermott type, and he's not. He doesn't make my team with respect.

00:24:48
Speaker 2: Well, you could have grand Hill in there over Dusk.

00:24:50
Speaker 5: I was so I thought about grand Hill. I wanted to find a way for my guy Jerry McNamara and his greatest Big East Tournament ever. And if I at least somewhere beyond the roster, I did not have, you know, Tim Dunk, the greatest college basketball players I've seen. I'm gonna Hansboro. Hansborough would be better remembered if he never played in the NBA. He was such a dominant college.

00:25:19
Speaker 2: Yeah, you've got to put Latner in there over Tyler Hansbrough.

00:25:23
Speaker 5: This is gonna make you. I didn't see Laatener.

00:25:27
Speaker 2: Well you didn't see Oscar No.

00:25:29
Speaker 5: But I was just saying guys that I've seen. I was doing a new list where I did guys that I've seen.

00:25:34
Speaker 2: Wait, you didn't see later.

00:25:37
Speaker 5: I was born in eighty four, so technically I saw him but I have no memory. Oka, Like the first college basketball team that I have vivid memories of is the AI Georgetown team. Okay, so you know, so like ninety six ninety something. Tim Duncan's the greatest college basketball player that I you know, that I watched start to finish, and I Jerry McNamara, you know, is a really of my lifetime. Mello had the best season. I'm Syracuse guy, but Mello had the best season. Durant probably was the most dominant if you don't care about the winning portion of it in college, like the most dominant single season of you know, this century, in my opinion.

00:26:22
Speaker 2: Talking to Nick Wright, you can check him out on YouTube wherever you get your podcast, What's Right with Nick Wright? And of course Monday through Friday, First Things First on Fox Sports One helped me understand the logic of the Miami Dolphins here.

00:26:37
Speaker 5: Oh, you know, I actually support what they're doing, and I think that just taking your medicine and saying we're not going to do a half measure here. We made some very very aggressive moves thinking we were championship contender. We weren't, and rather than peacemealing it, we are ripping it. Down in a way not I mean three hundred million dollar salary cap, one hundred and fifty million in dead money and by the way, still forty five million in dead money coming a year from now on to his deal. We're gonna deal with that now. I think the reason people take issue with that is, well, then why sign Malik Willis? And my answer to that is, Jeff Hafley has, you know, familiarity with him. In order to evaluate any of I assume they're going to draft a receiver. Like young players on the roster, you need to have a level of competency at quarterback. And if they end up being having the number one pick, but they think despite that, Molik shows them enough, then they can really supercharge the reload by flipping that number one pick. And if they you know, if he plays well enough for them not to have the number one pick, then they signed the right guy. And if not, it's not like they signed him to a five year, huge guarantee. So it and even if they get the number one pick and draft a quarterback, you still might be like, Okay, but Malik, you start next year and then maybe he's a trade chip if he plays well. So I think what they're doing. Logically, if I was if you said, Nick, you're taking over the Dolphins, I would have done a lot of the same things, like let's take our medicine right now and then try to move forward. But they are going to be the worst team in the league by a lot, by a lot next year.

00:28:30
Speaker 2: Who's more all in? The Broncos or the Rams?

00:28:34
Speaker 3: Oh?

00:28:34
Speaker 5: The Rams. I don't. I don't necessarily view the Broncos as all in. I think that they made a smart trade. I like the Wattle trade. He's only twenty seven, he's on a reasonable contract, Like I usually don't like trading first round pick plus for aging player, but he's not really aging. He doesn't make a ton of money. The Rams are again that there's not a lot of franchises that I think are you know, run well, and by well, I mean the way I would do it. But the Rams recognizing we we have the oldest excellent quarterback in the league, so let's let's not treat twenty twenty nine as valuable as twenty twenty six. I think it's super smart. The Broncos saying our window is open opening, so we don't want to go all in, but we also want to take advantage of the moment, and it's a very interesting thing with the dispersement of receivers across the league. I would argue, right now this moment, there's more talented receivers than any other time in NFL history. But there's also two divisions that don't have any of them. The AFC West in the AFC East, where Jalen Watta walks in and he's the best receiver in the division by a lot. DJ Moore, who I don't love, but walks in into the AFC East and he's the best receiver in the division by a lot, when neither one of those guys would be the fourth best receiver in the NFC North, so to speak. So they you know, I think that was a smart move by Denver.

00:30:14
Speaker 2: More surprising that the Chiefs brought in Justin Fields or Travis Kelce came back.

00:30:20
Speaker 5: Uh. I right after the Super Bowl, I thought Travis was going to be done. As the offseason went on, I then came to believe he's gonna run it back another year. So I wasn't by the time we got to the announcement, I wasn't surprised. I was surprised that there were folks, some friends of mine in the NFL media that were willing to be like breaking news. Travis Kelcey listening to other teams know he wasn't like I've never liked there. There was a zero percent chance he was gonna play for anybody else. And I think everybody knew that. I really like the Fields edition because they they gave up nothing. So he's price wise, very cheap for a backup. Three million bucks. Gardner Minshew was the Chiefs backup last year. It's got paid seven million. You can say, well, they traded a sixth, but because of the NFL's we were comp pick formula, had they signed a backup, they would have lost a seventh. So they ended up essentially getting him for nothing. And I wanted the Chiefs four years ago dan to sign Cam Newton so we can run quarterback sneaks again and maybe have just make teams when they play. The Chiefs spend ten minutes of practice that week dealing with the wildcat quarterback run package. And so now you are still I know I and I pitched it to Cam, but you know Cam's building his media empire. I so I if you're if you were to tell me Patrick is gonna miss the first month of the season, which I do not think is gonna happen. I would have rather had Kirk Cousins as my backup quarterback. If you were to tell me Patrick's gonna be there in week one, I would rather have Justin Fields because once Patrick is back in healthy, Kirk Cousins serves no utility. I think Fields can get on the field even once Patrick is back in healthy.

00:32:24
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. I like the signing. I've been a stubborn Justin Fields fan. I mean, he was in a bad situation. I thought he played okay in Pittsburgh and maybe he does that you know, reclamation on the third team Sam Darnold like, and gets an opportunity to like Malik Willis did in Green Bay.

00:32:44
Speaker 5: For him, this is the either Kansas City or the Rams would be the two places I would want to go if I were him. Where It's like, you don't you know, I know he might have to play in the beginning for Kansas City, but get a year under that coach, learning at that quarterback's feet, and then see if you can recharge your career. Can I I don't know how much time we have, Can I ask you a favor, Yeah, because you are. You know, I am friendly with Charles Barkley. At least I was the last time I saw him. He maybe maybe not anymore. I would hope. I am still no reason not to be. You are legitimate friends with him. The next time you see him, can you can you ask him? Does he still like the NBA? Like like, listen, that's a fair question.

00:33:35
Speaker 2: That's just a fair question.

00:33:37
Speaker 5: And I want to be clear. I think Charles is the the greatest in the history of the world at what he does, and I think a lot of people have failed trying to be Charles Barkley when you there's only one Charles Barkley the And I'm not acting like we get this compliment a lot, but the greatest compliment that I ever receive about the TV show for things first is when people say it reminds me of inside the NBA, which again I'm not saying we need that combline a lot, but whenever we get it, it means a lot.

00:34:07
Speaker 3: To me.

00:34:08
Speaker 5: That's one of, if not the greatest sports TV show ever. But man, oh man, I wish they liked basketball still. That's just I think.

00:34:18
Speaker 2: Well, the difference is you guys do research on first things first, like you guys are still studying it. I think, you know, Charles in Chack, I don't. I don't know if they really care. You know, they're jaded with this and now that we've allowed them to do it, you know, it's not like Charles is all. That's like with Charles with March Madness, I'm like, don't put him on March madness.

00:34:41
Speaker 5: But so here's the thing though, at least with March Madness, he's excited and int Like what he's not gonna do with March Madness is be like, why are we talking Saint John's They're not winning the championship? Like the Chuck's almost vendetta against the Lakers, which actually seems like his media criticism of how the media talks about the Lakers is to me misplaced, because if we want to say, listen, Celtic's thunder Spurs, everyone else can't win the championship, that's probably correct, Like that's I think the vast majority of times one of those three teams wins the title. But after those three, the Lakers are looking eye to eye or looking down on every other team in the league, and so to then dismiss them. It's like, well, then we're dismissing Denver, we're dismissing the Knicks, We're dismissing the Pistons, and that to me is misplaced given what they've done over the course of the year in my humble opinion, And again I say it on the front end. Really, I'm not really afraid of any enemies. But I do want to be friends with Charles Barkley one day, and so I just want to talk about how much I love and respect him. But I just don't like that.

00:35:57
Speaker 2: I don't see if I can brok her a deal there.

00:35:59
Speaker 5: That would be great rate. You think you me and Chuck one day could gamble together.

00:36:04
Speaker 2: I don't gamble.

00:36:06
Speaker 5: What if I what if? What if I buy you in?

00:36:09
Speaker 2: No? You it's no. It's a gateway drug and I don't. I don't. I used to be it.

00:36:16
Speaker 5: But but but at your age, what are you worried? Like?

00:36:20
Speaker 2: But I don't need the money.

00:36:23
Speaker 5: It's it's you know what, Oddly, and I think Chuck would back me up on this. Sometimes it's not even not only is it not about needing the money. Sometimes it's not even about winning. Sometimes it's you need the loss you need to feel a lot.

00:36:36
Speaker 12: No, no, no, no, to walk out of there and be like, you know what that's gonna I'm gonna trust your opinion. I don't need to find I don't need to feel it myself. What's the what's the biggest loss you ever suffered? Like where you go that well? I could bring me to tears.

00:36:54
Speaker 5: Oh, this is a great March madness story. This is great because this is not you know, as you get older and make more money, the dollar amounts, you know shift. But the biggest loss as a percentage of my net worth was the two thousand and eight NCAA Tournament final Kansas Memphis. Right, Memphis is a three and a half point favorite. I am fresh off being on Who Wants to Be a Millionaire and winning fifty grand and gambling all the time, and like and making eight dollars an hour doing radio. And I have a bookie in Kansas City that I gamble with that I convince him. I was like, listen, I hate this is true story. I was like, I had a dream that Memphis won by three, and I don't want to bet Kansas plus three and a half. I want to bet Memphis minus two. And a half because I want to root for Memphis, but they're gonna win by three. And I was like, so set me a price. So I had to lay one for I had to lay minus one forty, so I laid. I bet literally net worth, which you know, I think it is fourteen grand is what I had left of the fifty to win ten biggest bet of my life by a mile. And Memphis is up three with a second left, and Chalmers hits the shot and then they admit that was the Derek Rose miss free throws, Chomers hits the shot, Kansas wins in overtime, and I and I went from being the only person who in the world who was gonna bet Memphis and one time back at zero. That's what That's what it was. But I felt alive. Dan, I remember that story eighteen years later. Let's gol Tiar comes to mindye thinking about it.

00:38:42
Speaker 2: Uh, I'll work on the Charles Barkley thing. Thanks for joining me.

00:38:46
Speaker 3: Great.

00:38:46
Speaker 5: Thank you.

00:38:47
Speaker 2: NYT's Nick Wright, host of First Things First on Fox Sports one every afternoon Monday through Friday. What's Right with Nick right on YouTube wherever you get your podcast. Yeah, all of our takes were bad. On Matt Lioner. We'll come back and discuss that after this.

00:39:02
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live JC and Detroit. Hey JC, what's on your mind?

00:39:18
Speaker 12: Dan?

00:39:18
Speaker 3: I really enjoyed your conversation with Nick, which led me to a bigger question, and I have a smaller question. Also, when you're considering your all time greatest teams, are you more in the camp of, oh, the entirety of their career and their accomplishments, or like their peak extended period of time, or as I like to call it, kind of the Lebron corollary. As far as the greatest of all.

00:39:39
Speaker 2: Time, well, I tend to look at the totality of your career, because you can have a couple of years where somebody is sensational. But you know, we were talking about Bryce Harper. He's had two MVP seasons, but then he's had, you know, some seasons that were not great numbers. You know, maybe be level C plus, level B minus, level something like that. But yeah, I'm looking at the totality of somebody's career. Carrie in Minnesota, Hi Carrie, Hey.

00:40:11
Speaker 13: Good morning Dan and Dane's long time first time six feet in a firm two hundred.

00:40:18
Speaker 3: Yeah.

00:40:18
Speaker 13: Really, I just wanted to say I really enjoyed your interview with John Schmoltz yesterday. You know, I thought when he was playing he was always a class guy, And yesterday he had some interesting ideas on the All Star Game Slash Week. And you know what, always when I see him, I'm a lifelong Twins fan, and it always takes me back to the ninety one World Series. You know, he pitched a great game into the bottom of the eighth, and unfortunately for him, Jack Morris pitched a greater game, and you know, the Twins winning and extra innings and you know, I don't know about you, but I don't think we'll ever see a game like that again with you know what, the pitcher is going that beat?

00:40:53
Speaker 2: No, no, I mean, if you go five, it feels like boy kept him in there a long time. Yeah, those days are gone and you can't fight it. I mean you can try, it doesn't matter. It's a workhorses. Maybe going six innings, it's just you know, that's that's baseball. That's analytics. Back to the Matt Weiner story that he doesn't want USC to unretire his jersey, and like, at some point, I don't like what constitutes retiring a jersey, Like what do you have to accomplish where you go? Yep, we're going to retire that jersey. Like the New York Giants, Eli Manning, you're going to retire his jersey. They've retired his jersey. Okay, I get it, Lawrence Taylor, but all right, so you retire Phil Simms jersey. They retired his jersey, right. The Yankees have retired twenty two numbers, every single number from one through ten. I understand what Liner's saying. Wait, you're retiring my jersey. Now you want to unretire because some you know, high school seniors coming in and once number eleven because he wore eleven in college. No, now, unless they say, hey, you know, we're gonna miss out on this five star recruit if he wants to wear number eleven. And I'm going to guess their recruiting coordinator is probably saying that. But to ask him, according to Matt, numerous times, like why numerous times? Why not just once? Yes? Tous and you're not.

00:42:42
Speaker 6: All in on playing for that school. If it's so much about the number, where's the passion of desire. I want to be a USC Trojan if I can wear your number.

00:42:51
Speaker 2: Yeah, I understand why Matt would be like, no, hey, don't keep asking me.

00:42:58
Speaker 1: Yeah.

00:42:58
Speaker 2: I didn't agree with what Nick was saying.

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