Episode 1: Being Wrong Act One - Low Birth Weight Puppies
Act One: Low Birthweight Puppies
How our "stories" can blind us to what's before our eyes and potentially keep us from learning something new.
2022-07-21
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1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:01,640 Act one 2 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:04,840 low birth weight puppies. 3 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:08,480 So the first one is Sid, our tiny baby puppy. 4 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:10,120 Remember the tiny puppy? 5 00:00:10,120 --> 00:00:12,840 Tiny Sid. Who is now. 6 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:14,760 Scarlett. Scarlett. 7 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:16,120 So Sid was born. 8 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:19,640 She was three and a half ounces, I think. 9 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:21,040 I think she was three and a half ounces. 10 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:23,600 If that If that and our normal is 11 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:28,200 8 to 12, I would say eight, eight and a half to 12 ounces. 12 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:32,280 So she was just tiny, tiny, tiny. And, 13 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:37,840 you know, she came out and she suckled right away, which for us is a threshold. 14 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:39,520 Right, that they have to nurse. 15 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:42,800 They have to want to nurse. 16 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:44,960 You know, people kept asking me, is she going to make it? 17 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:48,680 Of course, you know, Facebook, everybody, Of course 18 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:50,400 The little one, I mean, yeah, it's heartbreaking. 19 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:52,080 And why not and why not? 20 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:53,400 And I kept saying, I don't know. 21 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:54,200 You know, there's 22 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:56,880 I kept saying, not only don't I know, I said there's no way to know. 23 00:00:57,320 --> 00:00:58,160 There's no way to know. 24 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:00,680 But she's nursing so that she's crossed that 25 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:04,440 she's crossed that threshold she's nursing. 26 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:06,120 But I don't know. 27 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:11,400 And then, you know, the days went by and she did okay. 28 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:14,160 We had some issues with her getting cold. 29 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:15,560 That was a problem. 30 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:19,840 She would get cold because of her body size was so little and probably also blood 31 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:23,760 sugar was, you know, more of an issue because of the small body size. 32 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:27,440 So, you know, I did make sure that she, I defended her, 33 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:30,000 made sure she got a good place on the teat. 34 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:33,680 I provided an extra heat source for her, so I always made sure 35 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:36,720 she was snuggled into a warm neck warmer. 36 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:41,440 Velvet would be kind of upset by her sometimes. 37 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:45,840 And, you know, a lot of breeders will say, 38 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:49,680 you know, mother knows best, it's nature. 39 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:51,080 If she's rejecting it. 40 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:53,240 But, you know, here's the thing about that, 41 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:58,760 is that many times the dam will be rejecting a puppy 42 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:02,840 just because it's a little cold or a little, the body temperature 43 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:05,640 is a little bit lower, even if it's not totally chilled 44 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:08,320 or the blood sugar might not be quite right. 45 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:11,480 And these are things that are really there's nothing inherently wrong with 46 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:12,040 a puppy. 47 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:15,600 It's just that the small body size, it chilled easier. So, 48 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:19,000 you know, I was working hard to keep her warm and then 49 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:23,280 but it was really still from time to time upsetting to velvet. 50 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:25,360 So I tried to sneak her out of the box. 51 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:30,120 That didn't work because Velvet knew she was missing and she went nuts. 52 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:34,240 So, you know, it was kind of a catch 22. 53 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:36,000 Darned if you do and darned if you don't. 54 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:39,880 And I will be honest, it was getting to the point for Mark and I 55 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:43,280 where it was so upsetting and disruptive 56 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:45,800 to Velvet 57 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:49,160 and the rest of the litter that we were worried 58 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:51,920 that the rest of the puppies and Velvet were suffering. 59 00:02:51,920 --> 00:02:55,280 And we, you know, I was right on the edge of just like 60 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:57,480 I just don't even know this puppy's so tiny. 61 00:02:57,480 --> 00:02:59,880 Is she going to make it? And it's upsetting everyone. 62 00:02:59,880 --> 00:03:02,480 And maybe we're doing the wrong thing to keep her alive, 63 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:08,000 because she also was scrawny and just terrible looking and, 64 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:11,760 you know, but she was nursing. 65 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:15,120 And then right after that, she sort of turned a corner. 66 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:18,240 I don't know if you remember that, honey, but she sort of turned a corner 67 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:20,680 and she just started gaining and doing a lot better. 68 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:23,720 And Velvet settled down. Yeah. 69 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:26,720 You know, but I still was sort of in the dark about 70 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:28,960 if she was going to make it and if she did make it. 71 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:33,200 You know, more specifically, was she going to be normal? 72 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:35,160 Was she going to be neurologically normal? 73 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:39,040 I mean, what what were we looking at here with this puppy? 74 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:42,120 What kind of possible 75 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:44,280 defects? You know, I just I didn't know. 76 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:46,960 But she moved normally. She nursed normally. 77 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:48,520 She was strong. 78 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,640 So there we were. 79 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:56,240 So now comes my part about the story and my story and how my story 80 00:03:56,640 --> 00:04:00,720 almost kept me from learning something. 81 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:03,600 So we put up pictures of her all the time. 82 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:06,200 Of course, every she had a whole following 83 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,360 and somebody said, 84 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:12,240 isn’t her head, abnormally large? 85 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:15,920 And I very reflexively said, No, no. 86 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:18,360 Bull terriers have big heads and big heads. 87 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:20,720 That's how they look. 88 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:22,040 And you know, it's true. 89 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:26,640 Bull terriers do have big heads in comparison to their bodies. 90 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:29,360 And in fact, there's a great article 91 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:32,680 by Winky Mackay-Smith on Type in the Bull Terrier, 92 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:37,040 where she specifically talks about it and says It's one of the things that artists 93 00:04:37,280 --> 00:04:41,440 tend to get wrong and judges, too, when they're judging or drawing bull 94 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:44,280 terriers is proportionately the head is large. 95 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:45,840 It's what gives them that. 96 00:04:45,840 --> 00:04:48,120 They almost look like they're going to tip over onto their heads. 97 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:49,920 Yeah, they do. 98 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:53,360 They almost look like, you know, those fish eye things when you're looking 99 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:55,680 through it in the heads really big and the bodies is little. 100 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:58,720 I mean, that's, you know, not that extreme, but that's sort of 101 00:04:58,720 --> 00:04:59,560 the effect. 102 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:03,400 It's the head is big. 103 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:04,520 But here's the thing 104 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:07,520 that puppy, 105 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:11,400 the head was really big and the body was really scrawny. 106 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:15,440 But I just you know, I had this strong thing in my head, 107 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:18,000 almost reflexive, like, no, no, no, no, no, no. 108 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:21,200 The head supposed to be big because that's my tribe, right? 109 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:23,440 I'm a bull terrier fancier and I know. 110 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:26,240 And you don't know when the head's big and supposed to be big. 111 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:30,240 And I just even though at the time I remember looking at it and thinking, 112 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:34,200 yeah, her head is big, my might just knee jerk was no know that that's normal. 113 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:39,640 But then this woman, Patty, Brill Harbison, who's very smart, 114 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:46,200 wrote in and said, oh, no, that's IUGR It's normal. 115 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:47,880 And in fact, it's asymmetrical. 116 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:50,040 IUGR She's going to be fine. 117 00:05:50,840 --> 00:05:52,000 So overall. 118 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:56,240 So of course, I'm like, well, what the heck is IUGR and what's going on? 119 00:05:56,880 --> 00:06:02,880 So IUGR is intrauterine growth restriction. 120 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,040 And what it means is that 121 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:07,840 the animal, 122 00:06:07,840 --> 00:06:12,480 human or puppy somehow had growth restriction in utero. 123 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:14,360 And there's a lot of reasons it can happen. 124 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:18,120 But basically there's asymmetrical and symmetrical. 125 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:23,280 Symmetrical is where the puppy is born proportionately small. 126 00:06:23,280 --> 00:06:25,680 It's like a perfect little puppy, but it's just small. 127 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:29,600 And then you have asymmetrical where the puppy is born 128 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:32,000 and it's a little bit of a Frankenstein puppy. 129 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:38,360 It has a ginormous head and a scrawny little body with no subcutaneous fat. 130 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:41,400 It almost looks like wasted away like a little old man. 131 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:42,600 And, you know, so 132 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:46,440 those puppies, those asymmetrical puppies really are not as attractive. 133 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:49,800 The little tiny ones look nicer. 134 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:52,880 But here's the crazy thing. 135 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:54,480 When it's symmetrical. 136 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:56,560 So those good looking little tiny ones, 137 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:02,280 that means it happened probably in the first half of the pregnancy. 138 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:05,760 And the prognosis is actually 139 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:08,920 worse for those puppies, ironically, because 140 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:11,960 in the first half of the pregnancy is 141 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:15,360 when the the neural tube is being formed. 142 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:20,520 And that is when you get profound birth defects. 143 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:25,360 And if if if there's any growth restriction during that time 144 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:30,160 for any reason, it can have profound effects 145 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:33,960 developmentally and neurologically on the puppy, 146 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:38,440 because fundamentally that whole system is being formed then 147 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:42,720 in fact, with certain kinds of defects in humans, 148 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:46,440 like thalidomide, the thalidomide babies, the that that 149 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:50,480 it was a drug that they gave to women that just, 150 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:54,360 you know, caused horrible defects 151 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:58,920 with thalidomide babies. 152 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,200 They can actually tell exactly 153 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:04,200 when the exposure was by the defect. 154 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:06,600 They actually have like a a chart. 155 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:10,000 So you can say, what if it's legs, it happened at this time 156 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:12,520 because each of these things, it's 157 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:15,360 a critical period for the formation of each of these things. 158 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:19,920 And if anything happens, any growth restriction, any toxins, 159 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:23,320 it will affect profoundly for the rest of the life. 160 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:23,960 The animal, 161 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:26,600 as opposed to 162 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:32,520 when it happens in the second half, the fundamental embryo has been formed. 163 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:37,360 So now what happens is the 164 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:42,240 puppy can go to what we call brain sparing strategy. 165 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:46,320 So the body basically is 166 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:50,400 wasted at the expense of the brain. 167 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:53,960 So so the puppy will develop neurologically normal 168 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:56,680 or the baby because it's the same thing in humans. 169 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:01,080 So when you have that puppy that's born that just looks like, again, 170 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:06,680 a Frankenstein puppy, scrawny little body, big head, that actually 171 00:09:06,680 --> 00:09:10,880 is a good indicator because it means that probably neurologically 172 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:15,000 that puppy has a better chance of growing up normally. 173 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:19,640 So you cute little puppies with all the, you know, regular 174 00:09:19,680 --> 00:09:22,280 chubby little tiny puppy, that puppy 175 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:25,880 not is not as good a chance of living. 176 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:29,240 So, you know, now I could say to people, hey, you know what? 177 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:33,960 Actually, I think her chances are pretty good. 178 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:37,160 And in fact, she's doing great right now. 179 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:38,920 She's already got Barn Hunt titles. 180 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:42,000 You know, she's been to some dog shows. 181 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:43,160 And. Were you wrong? 182 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:44,880 Yeah. Was I wrong? 183 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:49,200 Was I wrong and was my story ever so 184 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:54,120 strong that even as my eyes were seeing it 185 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:57,960 and my brain was even registering like, yeah, no, that puppy doesn't look good. 186 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:00,720 My mouth or fingers were typing. 187 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:02,240 No, no, that's normal. 188 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:03,920 That's not because. Because this is my story. 189 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:09,360 My story is that my bull terriers have big heads. 190 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:11,440 What do you think about that, honey? Mm hmm. 191 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:13,240 I mean, I understand what you're saying. 192 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:15,960 Was this public, everybody saw your response, 193 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:19,160 and somebody had the courage to step up and say, actually, you're wrong. 194 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:20,320 Yes, that's what it is. 195 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:21,640 Yeah, well, she. 196 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:23,120 Yeah, she didn't say, well, you're wrong. 197 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:26,080 She said, this is what this is. And and I and I really. She didn’t say 198 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:28,080 verbally you're wrong. 199 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:29,920 But she says, no, you're wrong. Right, right, right. 200 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:31,040 Yeah, yeah. 201 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:34,880 And again, that's, you know, it's in a public forum and you're like, whoa, 202 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:36,240 you know? 203 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:39,960 But for me, I think here's the thing. 204 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:45,560 Once you take that step to saying when someone puts out 205 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:50,200 something that shows me that I actually am wrong for me, 206 00:10:51,560 --> 00:10:54,760 now that I have this mindset of being wrong is growth. 207 00:10:55,680 --> 00:10:57,480 I'm like, Wow, Patty, thank you. 208 00:10:57,480 --> 00:10:59,720 That's amazing. I did not know that. 209 00:11:00,560 --> 00:11:03,600 So that now becomes, for me, a position of strength. 210 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:06,040 Because you a little bit of freedom, I guess, too, how 211 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:07,600 you don’t have to worry about being right all the time. 212 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:08,400 You don't have to. 213 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:13,920 Well, it you know, because being listen, anybody who comes and tells you I'm right 214 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:15,520 all the time, this is the way it is 215 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:18,600 and you just do what I do and what I do is the right thing. 216 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:22,560 Run from that person because they don't know what they're talking about. 217 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:25,160 Can't be 218 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:30,280 no, it's just not because if you're never, you know, listen, the world is growing. 219 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:31,680 Knowledge grows every day. 220 00:11:31,680 --> 00:11:34,600 We know more every day. 221 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:39,400 So so that was our little puppy story 222 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:42,000 that we learned a lot about.
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