DIY: D**k It Yourself - RHOC Recap with Alexis Bellino

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Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King. I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your favorite shows from the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and Bell Collective. Every episode we recap reality television from the Real Housewives franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or scripted as well. Hey, rain drops, So today's episode Reality with the King, I got Alexis Jansen back to recap.

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Speaker 2: Oh c Hey, hey, it's the Jansen's Worth Jason.

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Speaker 3: Instead of Jesus Jobs. It's Jansen Jugs. Okay, the pop filling.

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Speaker 2: You you literally are you? You're definitely doing the Alexis Jesus Jugs saying, Hey, by the way, it's JJ and JJ. So it's fine Jesus Judge John Janssen. It works. Although our our logos AJ, so yeah, that doesn't work, so we'll keep it AJ.

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Speaker 3: Well, we let to see that Netli.

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Speaker 2: That was the logo through the whole wedding and everything that he had the A with the J wrapped around it. So yeah, it's that I love it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well before we give pardon, I just want to you know, I'm so happy for you and John.

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Speaker 3: How it what was married?

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Speaker 1: Light?

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Speaker 3: Alexis bliss?

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Speaker 2: Yes it is. I mean it's crazy because it really does feel different. Like I told John when we first started realizing we were in love, we don't need to get married. We can just stay you know, fiance and it's fine. And then we decided, obviously, you know, we want to do the whole thing. And when we went before the friends and family and god, it is a different feeling. You do feel different. The sex is better, the the do you wake up in the morning You're like, okay, no, this is mine forever. I know, how did it get better? Carlos, we already had like the top over the top tip, you know, off the charts. But yeah, everything is different, Everything is different, So I build the main thing. He's my person.

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Speaker 1: Listen, I could tell boy, the glow you have and that makes me so happy because you would think you had a little bit of a space cake but if not, weed, it's love.

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Speaker 2: It's my light, Honey, Let's be real. It's my it's my it's that's my glow. Okay, look look forgot my light. I'm like, I'm not vain enough to take my big one, So I ordered the Butt Amazon and I'm like, I'm like, I'm going to Missouri and I'll have the podcast a couple of times, so I'm bringing my lights, so my wrinkles look lets and my bags look less because I'm not a whole lot here. But we start up, but we start off buying Carlos.

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Speaker 3: We still have fun.

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Speaker 1: And I can't talked about this episode because look, let's get right into it. Our Frantamera Judge. I was shocked at the scene between her and Eddie where I can I'm like, okay, this would be a nice dinner between the two of them.

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Speaker 3: Maybe she's like, you know, setting up that she's going to go to.

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Speaker 4: Amsterdam, you know, which is hea this trip for this particular season, and then all of a sudden they talk about their lack of communication and how you know they have like one good.

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Speaker 3: Fight every six months, and all of a sudden.

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Speaker 1: Ed it Reveale's like it when you're drunk ifn Tama's like, do you think I have.

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Speaker 3: A drinking problem? And he's like, I think it's not good for our relationship.

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Speaker 1: I was I was shocked by that revelation because I did not see that on comedy What about You, Well.

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Speaker 2: I was. I was really shocked at it. But you know what I loved about it, Carlos, I have a different feel on it. I mean, I mean, obviously, when you're they've been married like how many over a decade now, so it's like, Okay, you're gonna have qualms. You're gonna get on each other's nerves. And her the way he's gonna bug hit her, and the way he eats is gonna bug her. And the way she acts if she's had two cocktails instead of one gonna bug him. You're gonna have those things to get through in life. But what I loved about it is it's showing real like a reality, like the reality behind the relationship. I loved that. It was like, look, we do have a good marriage. And when you see them, you know how there's couples, Carlos, where you see a couple in your circle and you're like, they just are off. They just they're just not happy. They don't have that glow. Eddie and her still have that glow and are still madly in love. You can tell. But it is showing the reality of it ain't perfect all the time. You're gonna have some fights, you know. So I just loved that they and they the way it ended though, really made me happy because he's like, h like that you did that little funny thing with his hand, and then she laughed and he's like, there's not laugh again, and she laughs about I just loved I was like, that's true, that's the truth, Like that's that is then. But they've worked through it, you know. And I'm sure they went home and maybe she wasn't drinking. She had soda, water and cranberry at that dinner. So here's the other thing, Carlos. Though she this whole season she was going through the ringer with Teddy and the fact that the cast members were not wrapping around her with everything she was going through. Nobody was on her side, so she didn't have an ally or full support at all filming, and she still met put her foot forward and did her job, so that I have to appreciate. So I feel like a lot of the strain you see even on her and Eddie's relationship was probably from the fact that she was a gut r low, like she needed someone to help full up her tank, you know, with the castmates. I truly feel that because I know what it feels like to be on the island, and she was on the island last year with me. We were in freaking Timbuktu with the rest of the cast over here, and in this season, nobody wrapped around her at one of the hardest times of her life.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, no, I've done with you. And listen.

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Speaker 1: One thing that I believe we all know is that, look, relationships are hard.

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Speaker 3: Married just are harder because.

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Speaker 1: You do have this commitment you take them, vow to be there through sickness and health and rich and for all and all the other stuff. And when it comes to communication, I thought it was interesting that Tamra Black considered to be a talkative person that in her relationship with her marriage to Eddie, how she admitted that we don't communicate well and that we do have like one big argument every six months, and we kind of argue about all this stuff we kept inside.

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Speaker 3: What would you say, you know this, you know when you're now married to the love of your life.

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Speaker 1: What would you say is the secret to communicate well when you are in a marriage? Because I do think that's one of the problems a lot of marriages, you know, face it.

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Speaker 2: Really is that if I hadn't been through fourteen years of marriage with my first marriage, or I'm sorry, fourteen years of counseling in my first marriage, I wouldn't have all these tools in my tool belt because counseling, real and therapy is so positive. It's such a good thing even in life and even with friends and any relationships that you have. And the one thing that my therapist always taught me is well, first of all, you have to communicate. And I do believe Tamor when she said and Eddie that he agreed when she said, I hold things in, I don't get them out, you know. And then that's when they have the six month blowup where they talk about it all and get it all out. That's not a healthy way to go, but if it works for them, they can keep working on. Trying to not shove things under the rug is number one. You've got to communicate it through when it happens, I think is the key. But here's the other key to that. The other key to that is if you're not seeing eye to eye, and John and I've had this happen a couple times already in the two years we've been together where I'm just ready to talk it out. I want to talk it out. I want to get it out. I'm like no, and he goes, Alexis, you're the one that taught me put it on the shelf. We're going to put it right there, and tomorrow or the next day, when we're both calmed down, we've processed the argument and we can pull it off the shelf and we're going to address it after twenty four hours or what, you know, when the time feels right. But right now we're missing you know, we're missing each other, like the wires are going up as straight when we're trying to connect and communicate. And I think that is so cute. Put it on a shelf. Does it mean you're neglecting It doesn't mean you're going to bed mad. It's up there and we'll revisit it. I think that is like one of the biggest things. And I even got mad at Johnny when he made me do that. I said, that's my advice, but I don't want to answer right now.

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Speaker 3: What. No, that's good. I have to use that one day. That's really good advice.

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Speaker 2: I think it would help tamroll. I'm mett tell her next time we have coffee, we're not gonna have the martini because that he doesn't like it. We're gonna have coffee.

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Speaker 3: No, baby, have coffee that Cobbe caffe and that my bro needs.

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Speaker 1: So we've been see the girls together and listen, I will say this, Emily is becoming the.

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Speaker 3: Pot star this season.

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Speaker 2: I'm It's been every season, Carlos. I'm not the only one that sees this. Honey Bunny, come on. Her middle name is Emily pott Stir hyphenated, not the pop that called Emily's black. I love it.

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Speaker 3: I love it.

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Speaker 2: I love it, and nothing's wrong with it. Just own it. I mean, it doesn't matter. You just you are. You are the pot Star. It's okay own it and wear it and proud, put your hat on it and go.

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Speaker 3: I actually agree with you. Listen.

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Speaker 1: I enjoy it, and I think she should own it the way that they want Tamar to own her being one as well.

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Speaker 3: But it's sort of like so Emily is activated.

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Speaker 1: And while the girls were together, she did ask Shannon if she felt that Tama was being shady bringing up the dead and all of a sudden, you know, Shannon's like, look, I don't want to deal with it. And it's a parent and it's evident we talked about this again that Shannon has no Shanna does. I would want to resolve the friendship she have with Tammar and and and it's pretty obvious.

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Speaker 3: And then Tamar all of a.

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Speaker 1: Sudden, it's like, you know, asking Shannon and if she is a sea word, because Shanna was like to be screamed the sea word eighteen times across the table. It's just stuffing she can't deal with ivan Tamara was like, what are you want? Which I'm like, look, Tampa, that's not going to help the case by you repeating the sea word that you know annoys her.

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Speaker 3: But I think for me, Shannon and Tamar will never be friends.

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Speaker 1: And to me, it's evident, although Tammer's trying, Shannon doesn't want.

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Speaker 2: Well, can't they just be work associates? So that's the thing, and I think that's what Tammer has been trying to do all season. I think that scene showed that Tamer's just like, now I'm done, I'm fit, you know, like I've tried, and and Shannon's not having it. Even for a work of friendship. Because I remember I told you a couple of podcasts ago when we were recapping one of the episodes, I said, Tamara doesn't want to be friends with Shannon. Here, she's gonna call herup and say, hey, want to go get a cup of coffee. She doesn't want that. She just wants to be able to do her job, which is what your job is, is to entertain America and be able to be civil in a working environment. And for some reason, you know, but here's a deal about Shannon. It's evident. And I haven't watched all the episode or seasons that she's been on, and you know, really just caught up last season. I got to know a lot about her, and in this season you're seeing it again. And I'm assuming it was her persona before, just her personality, but she holds grudges and she doesn't let go. Like I know we're going to go to the gen thing about how Jen can't go to my wedding and all that. I know we're gonna get there, but it's another it's exactly the same immaturity and holding resentment and bitterness. I mean, if Shannon really is the happiest she's ever been, Like she says she is all these things she says on the show, I'm the happiest I've ever been, you know, if she really is, Why does it matter who Jenna is friends with? And why does it matter if you cannot why can't you not just push everything aside and just do your job with Tamara? That's what that scene really needed to happen, is I think Tamara was just She's like, I'm done now, I've tried five times several avenues. Shannon's not having it, So now are you a sea word? You know? I think that's Shamra is just but her emotions get the best of her a lot this season, and I can see it, Tamors, I can see it when she's filming, because I think she's just emotionally just done from crying about Teddy and worrying about Teddy and trying to visit her every time she can in between all the filming. I mean, that's the stuff behind the scenes that people don't know, you know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah no.

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Speaker 1: And that's something that she talks a lot about her podcast too.

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Speaker 3: While she was filming.

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Speaker 1: And going through this that you know what Teddy was going through obviously was you know.

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Speaker 3: Heart wrenching for her. And look when it.

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Speaker 1: Comes to Shannon, like I said, IOUs to think Shannon doesn't want to be pressed with Tamor.

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Speaker 3: And guess what, that's okay. I think no one's forcing you guys to be friends.

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Speaker 1: But what I will say is what you said, you have to sometimes do what's best for the show because it is a job, and you do your best to understand the assignment of listed our camera. Are we going to be talking like we did did teen times a day. No, but are we able to at least say, look, we are great as a payer when it comes to this show, so let's do our job. Let's be cordial behind the scenes. But the idea of us being best siege just isn't there anymore. And I would rather Shanna say that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think that's what's going to be interesting next year when they recast Carlos or or next season, I mean for season twenty. I think it's going to be interesting because it's like there are several people, including you know, Gretchen and Shannon who seem like and even Tamor regarding Gretchen, there's just I mean, like even Jen can at least say I'll do my job in film. I feel like between tamor Shannon and Gretchen, there's something where certain ones are going I'm not going to film with this person. What does that do that that alienates? And then it's like, what is production going to do? What is Bravo going to do to fix that? Because it isn't fun for the viewer to know that there's no way that these girls can move forward and work together. We have to be able to see that they can at least do their job and not. I mean, I don't know. I'm interested to see where it's going to go next season.

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Speaker 1: I am too, and I think based listen, I'm a producer.

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Speaker 3: If I was.

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Speaker 1: The decision maker of who comes back, I would not have Shanna come back full time. I think for me, the Shannon stick is up.

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Speaker 2: I use I use that all the time, that she's got she's got a shtick. I say that all the time because even like her falling out of the van and wiping things off of her test and she's always like just shovel, I got honey in my hair. It's like, where are you girl? How are you going to get a man? Acting like that, like nobody wants that tornado around like and by the way, Carlos, she can't keep Gone's name, my husband's name out of her mouth and she's talking about him farting. Yes, I do have a problem with this, and can we take a moment to pray for her real quick? Lord to your heavely Father. But I'm not kidding. I'm so over it because it's like, oh, Dear Heavenly Father, please, I didn't really have one, but okay, here let me go, Dear Heavenly Father. Can we please just give she then some peace of mind that her ex dumpter and she can't get over it and now he's married to me and she needs to find a new storyline. Please, and Jesus name help forget the strength to do that. Amen. Okay, anyway, this is what I will say. Thank you. Maybe it'll maybe God will work a little bit on her. But okay, first of all, do you fart? Yeah? I've been with a man two years. He has never farted in bed or even in daytime. Like, I'm like, maybe he was subliminally like trying to get rid of you and that's why he did that. But also I think she's projecting Carlos because here's why. She's the one who's crapped the bed several times awake in a sleep. She peed on a curtain okay instead of a toilet a couple times drunk. So if you want to say stupid things about my husband, the truth is gonna come out. Now she had said he uh snores, he snores. If she would have said that, I would say, yeah, he does sometimes, and so does my Frenchiet And so I get I get lolled a sleep by two snoring snooze fests, and it's like we move on, But like, just keep his name out of your mouth. You act like you guys were married. You dated off and on and had a tumultuous relationship for three years. You don't compare him to David or your husband. Lose his name. He's married. Now, Okay, that's done. I had to get that off my chest because I am over it. Like I don't know if she thinks that she is insulting him and embarrassing him, but she's embarrassing herself because she can't get his name off of her mouth. Like, stop using his name. He Okay, that's it. We can move on. To everything else, but.

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Speaker 3: Before we move on to everything else, and.

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Speaker 2: I need to drink of water.

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Speaker 1: After that, I have him pir clop in holy water waiting for me. It's a communion time bath on your assessment, and it just hit me and I never thought about this fully until you ran down.

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Speaker 3: How she just can't keep his name out of her mouth?

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Speaker 1: Do you think and we're going to get into the ultimatum she pretty much gave jan, which I was like, motherfucker, do.

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Speaker 2: You think I just went off? Now wait till we get to that part. I was getting red bull for that though.

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Speaker 3: I was. I was I was taking.

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Speaker 1: This is reality with the King and I'm Carlos King.

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Speaker 3: Let's get back into the show. Ask do you think Shannon is still in love with John?

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Speaker 2: I think she's pissed off because he dumped her and then married the hotter, younger cast member. And I think that she's bitter and can't move past that. And that's it's just like she holds grudges with like why can't if you're if you're a mature, happy, sixty three year old woman, why can you not move past the fact that if Jenn talks to me yesterday and goes to coffee with me, and then she hangs out with you. Why is that a problem. It's a problem because you're your own problem. She's her own worst nightmare. She can't move past John. I'm sure she still can't move past David. But John just happens to be the unfortunate, innocent bystander that came in between you know, David and the divorce and the affair. And then she dates John who dumps her, and she knew along the way that he probably wasn't going to stay with her forever. They ever talked about marriage, they never talked about moving in, they ever talked about finances. There was the relationship he was trying to get out of. I think that she is so bitter from all of that that it's just like she can't she can't lose his name. I don't think she's still in love with him, because how can you be in love with someone who doesn't love you back? Or I don't know. I maybe she is, but I just think it's that she just hates herself, and so she takes that out on everyone else and puts these ultimatums on people. When you're a sixty two year old woman. It's just would you do that? Carlos, Like I have friends that don't that this friend doesn't like this friend. And I'm just say, when I'm having at Christmas party, guess what A is coming, and so is B. If you don't want to be there, it's your her decision not to come. And if Be doesn't want to be there, it's his decision or her decision not to come. But I'm not going to be the immature one trying to keep between you two. I love you both. Everybody's welcome. If you want to come, great, If not, it's on you. Guys. That's the mature way to handle it. That's why I could be friends with Jen and Tamra. You know it's it's it's not an ultimatum. It's just Tamra, don't talk about Jen to me. Jen, don't talk about me to Tampa, Tamara about me to me. That's it it. I don't I'm so confused by how older women can act like that. It's like something you would do when you were twelve and your mom has to sit you down and teach you. Maybe your mom didn't sit her down.

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, I'm not going to argue with you when it comes to that. I was floored because listen, let's hop about conversation. The biggest thing for me that highlighted the ultimatum was the fact that I agreed with Tamara at one hundred percent. And I also think Emily even agreed with Tamar.

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Speaker 3: If I'm not.

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Speaker 1: Mistaken that Shannon's liking to Jen is just to piss off Tamra.

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Speaker 3: That's that's all it is. And I never thought that that's it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I never thought that till I heard that on this episode. I never it was never even never crossed my mind. And then when she Tamra said that, I was like, actually, yeah, it kind of is because I filmed last season and Shannon didn't give two craps about Gen last season and they weren't even very friends at all, So yeah, it is. It is kind of like, let me just find another, you know, nail to put in Tamra and turn turn the nail in Tamra's heart, because yeah, let me just find her worst enemy. And so I'll I'll choose Gretchen and all choose Gin. But at least, Carlos, do you feel like this? I wonder what the viewers think. I feel like with Gin and Tamarra, they get the assignment and they're doing their job even though they don't love each other. They there's there's there's a beef there, we all know it. But they're they're able to put on their big girl britches and do their job. Yes, it's not possible with Gretchen and Tamra, and it's not possible with Shannon and Tamra. Do you feel that.

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Speaker 3: Saying let me tell you something. Let me tell you something. The reason why they.

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Speaker 1: Show like Salt Lake City works is because.

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Speaker 3: They fight a lot, but they find a way to sort of get back together. The same thing with Beverly Hills.

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Speaker 1: They they The thing with the Beverly Hills cast Alexis is they don't isolate one person. Even when Erica Jane was going through the most horrific times in her life with a divorce from Tom and the fraud and you know, all of the laws, dues and all of that ship, there weren't half of the casts who believed Erica Jane was guilty. Lisa Renna and I'll say Kyle Lisa rent a child was really like on Erica's side, but they also had questions. But it wasn't like something and garselves that we're not filming with Erica Jane because we don't want to be associated with somebody who's associated with fraudulent activities or charge as.

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Speaker 3: The thing with OC that I do not want it to.

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Speaker 1: Turn it to Jersey, for example, is the fact that you have to find a way to go along to get along. And that's the reason why when Tamara came back, I'll say this and I'll say it again, When Tamara was fine that season and Heather came back and they wanted Heather to be the queen be of the show and it flopped right, Emily and Gina shit talk Tamarra and interviews that entire season she was on, only for the girl to come back, and they're like, fuck, at least Emily and Gina found a way to be like, let's let's let's at least work with Tamara to do with the best for the show. And that's why Emily and Gina to me, are enjoyable to watch.

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Speaker 3: The thing with Shannon is Shannon.

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Speaker 1: Hey, listen, I'm not trying to pommel on Shannon, but I've just got to be honest here and listen, I'm only talking about her based on the show.

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Speaker 2: Right now, you can pile on her because guess what, I have kept my mouth shut and the cookie monster better keep the John's name out of her mouth, okay, because she's doing there's gonna be some truth told because I do have facts and I do have proof of stuff which we won't name how we all know after the last season. But it's like I don't have to shut up, but she better shut up with my husband now, thank you.

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Speaker 4: Okay, go ahead, no lifted, listen there by your man tell me why that I'll I'll right.

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Speaker 3: So I'm not.

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Speaker 2: I'm not.

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna argument that would either.

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Speaker 2: Not right now. I kind of feel like I have a knife in my hand and I'm like you, think of the garage.

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Speaker 3: The biggest this the thig is this.

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Speaker 1: To see To see Shannon.

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Speaker 3: Give the ultimatum to Jin was shocking.

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Speaker 1: What was even more shocking was Jen saying, I'm not I did I didn't receive a safe the day from Alexis.

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Speaker 3: I like Alexus. I do consider her friend.

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Speaker 1: We have a good time, we have coffee, whatever and when and when, she said, but in order for us to not be in a bad place, I will not go to the wedding and Shannon says thank you.

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Speaker 3: I was like, what the fuck is happening?

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Speaker 2: First of all, that is you were running both lanes there. It's like, that's not really making a stance, because if you really do say you like me and enjoy me, then you don't go to Shannon and say but I won't go to her wedding. But here's the reality behind everything now, Carlos. Because that scene, I then knew what was happening, because Jen and I talked all the way up until like April something, because I went back on my text to look after I saw that scene. We talked all until about April or May, like May is when myfe Save the Date went out, like all the way up and I send us Save the Date out and then there's three weeks. I mean, I'm talking we talked twenty five minutes on the phone when I'm in Beverly Hills trying to get my gown and I had a debucle with the first designer and then I had to find another designer. Like she's helping me all along the way and talking to me, okay, and then she's texting back and forth all the time too. Yes. So then May comes and I send the save the dates. Okay. Then the three weeks come where there's like, you know, I've texted her a couple of times. Nothing. I'm like, oh, I know that. You know, things get busy. They're probably traveling, I don't know. And then and then I decide it's it's five months before my wedding and I was going in for my emergency boob surgery and if I had the ruptured implant, and her and I would when we would have cramps, we would call the other one and go, you have cramps right, and I'm so sorry, or you know I'm in car I mean, we talked it through everything. She did not respond after she knew I was in Beverly Hills that day going in for my surgery, not even the next day. I let a whole another four days go by, not a check up, not to call me, nothing. So this is where she was distancing herself because she knew she'd said that on camera. Okay, this is just where I'm is going. She knew she'd said that on cameras. And then she's like, I do have to kind of distance myself from Alexis now. So then I send her the text and I disinvite her, and she was shocked. She was like, why are you disinviting me? And I'm like, are you cuckoo? Like, yeah, haven't responded. I just had surgery. You didn't check up on me. You have a text to me back in three weeks when we were talking almost every day. Text prove it, my text chain proves it, and the phone calls if I would have kept the coal log. But like, we chopped almost every day, every couple of days, and you didn't check up on me. You don't get a seat at my wedding, which is a very limited guest list, and I have twenty five people still wanting to come that I want to invite. So now you're moving off and I'm inviting two more that are going to take your place. Okay, it's total logic to me. Now I understand why it was going on because Shannon was in her ear engines, Like, I have to film with Shannon. I don't want to tick her off because it's the nightmare to film with people. I've got to have allies. I don't like Tamera, you know, I've got so now I understand it all from behind the scenes. But It sucks because Jen and I are friends and I do care about her. I love her and Ryan. I think they're a great couple. I don't have anything negative to say about Jen except for that was weak and she should never have allowed Shannon to scare her from coming to my wedding because she missed a fabulous event and she should have been there, and that's on her. But she wasn't being honest when she said, I'm not the kind that's going to allow someone to dictate who I'm friends with. Because you're sure as hell did baby cakes? You sure did you let Shannon get you canceled from my wedding list? Which is sad. It's sad because that was an event of a lifetime and it's a once in a lifetime, So it's sad.

00:27:34
Speaker 1: Honey, No, let me ask you this because I actually feel sad right now.

00:27:42
Speaker 3: Was that hard to watch?

00:27:44
Speaker 2: Yeah, because then it all made sense because nothing made sense before. And then I'm doing the timing and I'm like, I wonder if they were on a trip back then. So then I text Hammer, when did you guys go to or talk to Tammer? I'm like, when did you guys go to Amsterdam. What month was that? Exact same timing, exact same timing, as she is distancing me. And when I go back to my text exchange that three weeks that she wouldn't answer and went kind of cold on me. Was that, I mean now we've talked now, we've talked to ten since then, and sorry, Shennon, we do talk and she has my friends, so I don't know what she's telling you, but I'll just one here.

00:28:15
Speaker 3: Wait, you and Jims are about past that. A're talking now.

00:28:19
Speaker 2: Yes, we are texting now, back and forth. She texted me on my wedding day. Listen to this. She texted me on my wedding day and said, I hope we you know, I know we don't listen to all the noise, and I know you're going to beautiful bride today, wishing you the best or whatever. And I text her back and I said, wow, that means the world to me, and something like, you know what you should be here. I wish that there was a time when we didn't have space come between us. Had not seen this scene, by the way, had not seen this episode CAU. Remember I got married two weeks ago, so I text her and I'm like, you know what, you and Ryan really should be here. I wish we'd never had the space, you know, the distance come between us, but I get the world we live in and this TV show's rotten sometimes, but you should be here. If you want to slap on a wedding outfit and you and Ryan want to come, let me know. I'll make sure there's space for you, because I would have just scootered a couple of people over and made the eight top of ten top, you know, cause we had a couple of eight tops and not all of them were ten, So I'm like, we'll just squeeze them in, you know. But then you know, she's like, no, I'm in San Diego, but thank you so much, and you know, I'm glad that you know, and I just you know, we are on good terms. It's like we can squash that. But I'm not going to tell you that that scene didn't hurt me, because that made it all come It all came to light then I understood why. And I wish Jen would have just texted me back then and said when I was can't when I and disinvited her, I wish she would have just said, I'm sorry, Shannon did get in my ear, I am feeling torn. That would have made me respect the situation a little bit more, you know, But I didn't get that. Instead, I got why are you disinviting me? This is odd? Why that's an odd thing to do? And I'm just like, no, No, it's five months from my wedding and I've talked to you in three weeks, not by having someone come to my wedding that doesn't reply after I have surgery, thank you. No. So anyway, well, and now.

00:30:00
Speaker 1: It's interesting because the whole time she's pissed that you just invited her, she already told Shannon she wasn't coming right crazy.

00:30:10
Speaker 2: But now it's all making sense because of this episode. Now it's all.

00:30:15
Speaker 1: You know.

00:30:16
Speaker 2: It just it sucks. It did suck. It hurts. It hurt my feelings a lot.

00:30:21
Speaker 3: Okay, I have to ask you this because you know me.

00:30:25
Speaker 1: I'm very honest with you, and I never want to put you in a colorful situation.

00:30:29
Speaker 3: But I gotta be real.

00:30:31
Speaker 1: When I saw that scene and I saw Jen tells Shannon pretty much, I'm not going I gotta know be loyal to you pretty much, it reminded me of Heather's excuse of not going to your wedding, and how she brought up Shannon's name and to hear Shannon tell Jan thank you.

00:30:51
Speaker 3: This is my theory and I can be alone.

00:30:53
Speaker 2: I don't give a fuck.

00:30:55
Speaker 1: I believe Shannon had that same conversation with him, and I believe, based on the fact that I now know Shanna gave people ultimatums, I believe she gave head the line, and I've been Heather was like Jin and gave what was best to continue fimming with Shannon, and.

00:31:12
Speaker 3: I just agree.

00:31:13
Speaker 2: I disagree with that because Heather and I have texted back and forth since since that whole watch What Happened Live? We have texted back and forth and we're going to have a conversation about it. It's just I'm in Missouri now. We haven't had the time to actually have a phone call. But she did say she's sorry, and she did not mean it any of that that way. She did a long, lengthy like I sent her a text as long, she sent me one back this long. I love the girl, and I know that we all mess up in this industry, and the problem with being on national television is you do say things. I mean, look at me. My mouth goes faster than my brain a lot of the time, So I'm easy to forgive people on that when they've owned the mistake and said they're sorry. Heather did and it was from the bottom of her heart. It was Alexis, I should have just ended it at that I was a cat's thing, but I just started talking. And I don't mean that. I do love you, Terry, and I do love you guys like you know, like we I don't know what was on her mind that day to keep going, but Shannon did not have any control over Heather. But yes, she has control over Jin or did Okay now I think Now, I don't think Shannon does because Jen is reaching back out to me and talking to me, So I don't think Shannon ends up having the control that she thought she had on Jen. I just wish Jen would have had a backbone back in April because she would have been at my wedding two weeks ago had that happen.

00:32:30
Speaker 3: Yeah, and also.

00:32:31
Speaker 1: Listed also thinking of what you said to that, I have been thank for years that listen some of these shows are alliances and it's and listed And I'm also.

00:32:41
Speaker 3: Going to bend the girls too.

00:32:45
Speaker 1: It is very hard to film these shows.

00:32:50
Speaker 3: I mean, Alexis, you know that.

00:32:52
Speaker 1: And what I want the general audience to understand is this.

00:32:57
Speaker 3: Imagine going to.

00:32:58
Speaker 1: Work and no one talks to you, and you have to do that every day for eight hours a day.

00:33:06
Speaker 2: Is tough, and sometimes go on a trip and sometimes go on a trip where you're together three or four days straight and sometimes you fill in ten or twelve hours and you only get an hour break. I mean, I know, Carlos, That's why I have a capacity to forgive and move on and a compassion for these women because I've been in the same shoes. And the ones that have a good heart and the ones that I you know, that apologize and I can tell they really mean it and talk to me off camera and we still meet up and do things. Those are the ones that you know really didn't mean it and it was a TV moment. Like I've said before, it's the other times that you're you know, you can't move past it. But but I do. I do feel compassion for these women because it's tough. It's a tough job, and you do say things sometimes. I mean, think about this, Carlos, every America or every human not American. Every human says something that they go, oh, why did I say it like that? That don't do even what I mean. It happens in life daily with people, So on national television you're actually being videoed and you know it's going to air. It stinks, you know, it's like it's hard. It's a lot of pressure, and you don't always mean everything you say. It comes out wrong. Everyone's human, and so that's why I tend to be able to forgive and move on, you know. But I do have a line, Carlos, and when that line gets crossed for the final time, I am still cordial, but I don't go back, and so it takes me a long time to get there. But when I am, it's that's the end. So right now I have the Gin and Heather are not at the line yet. They're just you know, they both didn't make the wisest choice. They both kind of apologize. I mean, Jen hasn't really just even though I feel this way, we haven't had the talk yet because I just watched the show last night, so I barely protested it, and that six hours I slept to even be like, oh my gosh, now it all makes sense. I go back to my text and it's like, you know, the detective alexis coming back to work here.

00:35:00
Speaker 1: Detective alexive and love, I'm happy you were able.

00:35:04
Speaker 3: To clear things up.

00:35:06
Speaker 1: And look, the ladies are after them and what we see next week's episode is going to be a course of drama.

00:35:14
Speaker 2: Oh look, what do you think about the cook? Okay, so I really want to go to Amsterdam? By the way, what do you think about the cupcake or the what was it a muffin? The space muffin space cake? What do you think? First of all, how much of it would you eat? Because I'm scared. When I was watching the girls they were taking another bite, like some one of them was taking a few bites. I'm like, I would probably take one and wait an hour because I would be scared, crapless about what it.

00:35:36
Speaker 3: Was going to do to me, Like, well, the big big of me. I I'm not a cannabis person.

00:35:47
Speaker 1: Oh I'm so afraid of how I would act taking or dabbling into a space cake.

00:35:57
Speaker 3: Listen, I'm such a fucking nerve. I pod won't do it.

00:36:00
Speaker 2: You want to see it even more?

00:36:01
Speaker 3: Carlos with you, I don't jink, I don't spoke.

00:36:04
Speaker 1: So the idea of be like eating a space cache is sort of like scary, but but you're like me, your personality is on one hundred.

00:36:13
Speaker 2: Anyway, I would love.

00:36:15
Speaker 3: To see you in it.

00:36:17
Speaker 2: Well, I've taken it, John, and I taken a gummy before. I'm not I'm not a big cannabis person at all either. My mom liked to smoke the joint and I thankfully I got to smoke one with her, right well, a couple puffs. I'm not going to say a joint, but like I smoked a couple puffs before she ever passed away, because I used to. I used to ridicule her and be like, stop doing that stuff long, it's so bad for you. And then, you know, as I matured and got older, you know, I remember going to her house and and we I just landed two and a half hour drive. It's like, you know, six hours to get to her, and and she was like, let's just have a pep. And I'm like, I'm thirty five, an or fur or whatever. So I'm like, okay, oh hannay, oh hannay, you wouldn't die. I was laughing my butt off, okay, which I already laugh a lot, and I just I thought that I was like the world the room sitting like I was. But then John and I have done a gummy you know, I think maybe twice in our two years together, and I we're just fun. It's fun and funny. You know, we're definitely not around the kids when we do that. It's an adult night and we pretty much stay in the house because it's like, you don't want to you don't want to be out with that. But I'm not a cannabis person either, but I think it's kind of fun. And watching the girls, you know, watching Heather and and Shannon on it and they were stone soup. I was like, this is I want to se I want to see you high.

00:37:34
Speaker 3: I'm so nervous. I'm full over it. So I don't got a few minutes left with you before I let you go. Yes, you know the OC girls tape their reunion last week.

00:37:46
Speaker 1: Did you hear anything that happened?

00:37:50
Speaker 2: I'm a I'm a vault Carly, but we'll have fun recapping. Okay, well, okay, wait.

00:38:00
Speaker 3: Are you the stuff you heard? Good stuff?

00:38:06
Speaker 2: Well, I mean it's gonna be a good no ask me what? No, no, goo.

00:38:11
Speaker 1: Ahead, good stuff for the audience, but maybe not necessarily for the cast.

00:38:21
Speaker 2: Yeah, but isn't that the way every reunion goes. I've never seen a reunion that's good for the cast, Carlos, that's like the stupidest thing you've ever said. Hell would freeze over good for the cast. Okay, you don't make that money to be on entertainment on TV and have a good reunion for yourself. Buddy, that's where we're in. You are wearing depends to the reunion because you crap your pants all the time. You are you are taking your red bull because you know what and I mean no, there's no good reunion for the cast, but it's gonna be a good reunion.

00:38:58
Speaker 3: Okay, you know what's a buddy, Alexa, that's but probably be put on his what.

00:39:03
Speaker 2: Producer hat because that was such a producer.

00:39:05
Speaker 3: Lie, you're so right, you like problem. It's good for your fucking producers. Not necessary, but.

00:39:12
Speaker 2: Well, you know about you were just waiting to see what I would say. I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it.

00:39:17
Speaker 3: I love you.

00:39:18
Speaker 2: Well, hold one, hold on because you have a lot of friends in high places. Have you heard anything I heard?

00:39:27
Speaker 4: It's going to be a good show for us to readnap.

00:39:32
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is. I might need to bring two red bulls for that one, honey, And wait, might I to go on that one? We might cheers by the way here, cheers, cheers cheers. We might need to uh go an hour and a half on that one. I know we try to keep it at forty five. That one might take us to an hour, hour, ten minutes. I'm not sure.

00:39:52
Speaker 3: Well, I'll spare days, sister. I've just spent days with you, so trust me. Let's block off the fucking time that Alexis Jansen Okay, I love what you say that.

00:40:03
Speaker 2: Say it again, Alexis Jansen. Wow, We're the Jansons. It's on Spotify. We had a guy guy blessed not to rhyme for uh and surprise the heck out of our whole audience. And my brother called me after the wedding and is like, Sis, that song I can't get out of my head. I'm like, I know, it's so like I can't even get the beat now because I haven't heard it for you know, two weeks. But it's like we're the Jansons, and it's like he was just so freaking epic because he's been John's private chef for like fourteen years, fourteen years or something, for sixteen dinners John's had with him, so I'm like, he knows him. So it's just funny.

00:40:40
Speaker 3: So I love it. I love listen. I love it. I love you.

00:40:43
Speaker 1: Thank you so much, have a great weekend, and I'll see you next week, my darling.

00:40:47
Speaker 2: Bye guys.

00:40:51
Speaker 1: Reality with the King is executive produced by me Carlos King, produced by Lizzie Nimitz, and a partnership.

00:41:00
Speaker 3: With the Lack Effect Network.

00:41:02
Speaker 1: You can also find us on my YouTube channel at the Carlos King Underscore