Darcey & Stacey Silva: Happily Ever After
They built a fashion brand from the ground up, they turned heartbreak into headline-making TV, and now Darcey & Stacey Silva are back on your screens in the new season of 90 Day Fiancé: Happily Ever After.
From Darcey’s tearful journey on Before the 90 Days to the spinoff that made the twins household names, the Silva sisters have become icons of reinvention—glamorous, dramatic, and endlessly resilient. But beyond the makeovers and the memes, theirs is a story of sisterhood, survival, and building something real with their brand, House of Eleven, created in honor of their late brother.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Darcy, but I'll stay seated. [SPEAKER_00]: Our friends are back. [SPEAKER_00]: Now, do people get you mixed up all the time? [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they definitely. [SPEAKER_00]: Growing up, it wasn't just the two of you. [SPEAKER_00]: You had a brother, my mom. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Michael is always been a tough guy. [SPEAKER_01]: He passed away from a reformer of cancer in Nineteen. [SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of an MC company that we chose to honor him with. [SPEAKER_01]: And everything we do is kind of in honor of him. [SPEAKER_01]: So I wrote a letter and got a call the next day and pretty much got it pretty quickly after that. [SPEAKER_01]: How does your life change? [SPEAKER_00]: Was it pretty immediate? [SPEAKER_01]: I don't forget the camera's there half the time, but when it started airing, I was like, wow, it was like super huge ratings. [SPEAKER_00]: Was there a moment that you guys realized, oh my god, people are actually obsessed with themselves at once? [SPEAKER_01]: Actually the biggest fan we've ever met was Rihanna. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, she's just instantly had done us and said, I love you girls. [SPEAKER_01]: You're doing you're amazing. [SPEAKER_00]: When people look back on Darcy and Stacey Silva, what do you hope that you're like a single day? [SPEAKER_01]: I think I like a single piece. [SPEAKER_01]: We're doing great for the top of that mountain together. [SPEAKER_01]: Always keeping your eyes on the prize. [SPEAKER_01]: And the prize is whatever you want it to be. [SPEAKER_00]: Today on Misunderstood, I'm sitting down with two women who have lived their entire adult lives in the spotlight. [SPEAKER_00]: Where every heartbreak, every makeover, every misstep has been magnified for the world to see. [SPEAKER_00]: Have you been watching Sisters Darcy and Stacey on ninety-day fiancee happily ever after? [SPEAKER_00]: If you haven't, you need to watch. [SPEAKER_00]: These are the two silver sisters that everybody is talking about. [SPEAKER_00]: These two may have started as twin sisters from Connecticut with a dream and a clothing line, [SPEAKER_00]: But the world met them when Darcy took a leap of faith on ninety-day fiancee. [SPEAKER_00]: What followed was reality TV history, messy relationships, emotional vulnerability, twin drama, and ultimately a hit spin-off show that cemented them as pop culture fixtures. [SPEAKER_00]: But behind the tears in the glam, there's something people miss. [SPEAKER_00]: These women are survivors of public judgment. [SPEAKER_00]: They built a fashion brand in honor of their late brother. [SPEAKER_00]: They've reinvented themselves time and time again even when the world mocked their transformation. [SPEAKER_00]: They've fought for love, for family, for identity, and they've done it all under the harshest of lights. [SPEAKER_00]: So today we're not just talking about reality TV moments, we're talking about what it means to be a woman whose flaws and fears are broadcast on national television and how you find the courage to keep going when the internet is already written your story for you. [SPEAKER_00]: Because Darcy and Stacey aren't just reality stars, they are women who like so many of us are still searching for love, validation and a little bit of peace. [SPEAKER_00]: And maybe that's the most misunderstood part of all. [SPEAKER_00]: Please enjoy my conversation with twins, Darcy and Stacey Silva. [SPEAKER_00]: Darcy and Stacey, it is so fun to have you finally on misunderstood. [SPEAKER_00]: How are you? [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you. [SPEAKER_00]: You guys look great. [SPEAKER_00]: First of all, who's who? [SPEAKER_00]: Because I'm going to get you mixed up. [SPEAKER_00]: Darcy, and I'll stay see our friends. [SPEAKER_00]: Now, do people get you mixed up all the time? [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they definitely. [SPEAKER_01]: Yes. [SPEAKER_00]: When you were little, did you kind of try to pretend you were the opposite sister? [SPEAKER_01]: Actually, no, not really. [SPEAKER_01]: Really. [SPEAKER_01]: We enjoy being twins and we should dress like, obviously we probably were more identical. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we have thought of it for sure. [SPEAKER_00]: Right. [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. [SPEAKER_00]: And did you always have the same type or like tell me some things that are similar or different about you from your childhood now now? [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: I think we were younger. [SPEAKER_01]: We were kind of shy and introverted. [SPEAKER_01]: So we only really had each other. [SPEAKER_01]: So we definitely did more things alike. [SPEAKER_01]: And you know, we were each other's best friends, each other's other half. [SPEAKER_01]: So that's kind of all we have our new growing up. [SPEAKER_01]: We moved around a lot growing up as kids. [SPEAKER_01]: But London, Japan, Singapore, traveling with our family and our dad. [SPEAKER_01]: you know, people would kind of spot us out as twins, ironically, take pictures of us, take pictures of us, stop us because we have a long, curly hair and all the different foreign countries. [SPEAKER_01]: So it's stop our mom and dad to take pictures. [SPEAKER_01]: But yes, we were really shy. [SPEAKER_01]: We just kind of stuck together like little, I know. [SPEAKER_01]: Well, we did fight a lot in the groups. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, supposedly. [SPEAKER_01]: Supposedly. [SPEAKER_01]: But we were babies according to what our dad said. [SPEAKER_01]: We had our own little twin language. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: But it seems like you guys complete each other sentences. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: Times for sure. [SPEAKER_00]: Well, let's start at the beginning. [SPEAKER_00]: You guys grew up in Connecticut, which is where you are now, right? [SPEAKER_00]: Can you tell where can, again, can you talk about what childhood it was like? [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we're, we're in Connecticut right now visiting family, we're in weather fields. [SPEAKER_01]: We grew up, we're born in Connecticut, but we kind of dulled over at this stage of three, like as an engineer. [SPEAKER_01]: So we travel a lot with him and our family with his land in Japan, Singapore. [SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, kind of on and off of Connecticut. [SPEAKER_01]: It's always home away from home for us. [SPEAKER_01]: So it's a piece of us always, but yeah, we love to have that travel bug I think because we grew up traveling. [SPEAKER_00]: Were you close to both parents? [SPEAKER_01]: Yes. [SPEAKER_00]: Because your dad is such a, you know, a figure on TV. [SPEAKER_00]: So like, you know, me as someone who hasn't watched everything yet, I'm just catching up. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, what was your relationship with your mom and what was their relationship like? [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they were married till we were about twelve, but we always did everything, you know, a close as a family. [SPEAKER_01]: Our dad's kind of like the patriarch of the family. [SPEAKER_01]: So we, you know, always went to him for advice. [SPEAKER_01]: Whatever we need, he was always there for us. [SPEAKER_01]: Our mom was, you know, she was stay home on. [SPEAKER_01]: So she was always there. [SPEAKER_01]: You know, she was good cook and, you know, just, you know, they're nurturing our dad. [SPEAKER_01]: He's [SPEAKER_01]: You know, there is successful man. [SPEAKER_01]: So we learned a lot from him. [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you know, we would ask him all kinds of questions and stuff. [SPEAKER_01]: And actually, we called him mentor my guess. [SPEAKER_01]: And high school ended up because they were divorced. [SPEAKER_01]: We ended up moving to West Virginia where he lived. [SPEAKER_01]: And the last two years, a high school we lived with him. [SPEAKER_00]: Got it. [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. [SPEAKER_00]: Now growing up, it wasn't just the two of you. [SPEAKER_00]: You had a brother. [SPEAKER_00]: My mom was at the only sibling. [SPEAKER_01]: Yep. [SPEAKER_01]: All the other Michael. [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. [SPEAKER_00]: And you started you launched house of eleven long before TV and my correct. [SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely. [SPEAKER_01]: Yes. [SPEAKER_00]: It's just super cool. [SPEAKER_00]: Can you guys talk about the vision for your brand and how your brother Michael inspired it? [SPEAKER_01]: Michael is always in our hearts. [SPEAKER_01]: He passed away from a reform of a cancer in the United States, July eleven, and it's kind of a namesake company that we chose to honor him with, and House of Eleven is meaningful because the number eleven he was born, May eleven has been seventy-one past July eleven, [SPEAKER_01]: And everything we do is kind of in honor of him. [SPEAKER_01]: It's a field good brand. [SPEAKER_01]: He was, we were shy growing up, so he was always like a protector. [SPEAKER_01]: We got bullied in school. [SPEAKER_01]: He would be like, these are my twins. [SPEAKER_01]: So don't talk, you know, don't talk about that. [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, protect us is our motivator. [SPEAKER_01]: He always told us to never give up and, you know, just [SPEAKER_01]: Follow our dreams and dream big. [SPEAKER_01]: That's how we always do a big. [SPEAKER_01]: Those are things that he would like instill in us. [SPEAKER_01]: And even though he was our older brother, he was kind of like a mentor to us too. [SPEAKER_01]: And actually he was the one that drove us to West Virginia and high school. [SPEAKER_01]: So he always helped us. [SPEAKER_00]: We were very, very close to him. [SPEAKER_00]: Yes. [SPEAKER_00]: Yes. [SPEAKER_00]: So he never got to see any of this fame that other people, right? [SPEAKER_00]: So he does know you as his two younger sisters. [SPEAKER_01]: Do you get other sisters? [SPEAKER_01]: He always believed just, like I said, we're shy, but we held a lot of that what we wanted to do, like inside. [SPEAKER_01]: And then as we got older and had our kids and got married, we always had his voice in our head, like, you know, don't ever give up, you know, reach to the top of that mountain. [SPEAKER_01]: He handed hand you guys, can do I believe in you. [SPEAKER_01]: And we always had big dreams, yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we had dreams that were like, [SPEAKER_01]: And most people would be like, how are you going to do that in here? [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, what did you guys want to be when you were little? [SPEAKER_00]: So look at your show. [SPEAKER_00]: Look, we did. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we just, we always wanted, you know, to be on TV. [SPEAKER_01]: And I think that stems from being a twin and always, you know, when we were little, we always get stopped and the street or whatever and just like, people take pictures of us like Darcy was saying like, they're like, forced attraction. [SPEAKER_01]: Like the horse attraction. [SPEAKER_01]: But I just feel like we always had something that no one else had. [SPEAKER_01]: And it made us unique. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not just people gravitated towards us in a weird way, even though we were very shy. [SPEAKER_00]: What kind of jobs did you have like at the beginning out of school? [SPEAKER_01]: At a school, I mean, first job was wickedies. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I know our dad made us get us in high school when we went to a Virginia first job. [SPEAKER_01]: He was like, well, if you're going to, you know, job, you know, you're just your sixteen, seventeen now trying to get a job, you know, and learn how to work and stuff and save money. [SPEAKER_01]: So my first job was McDonald's and drive through girl when they first started those values. [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm fine. [SPEAKER_01]: You know, never really had like a big voice, but it was like kind of on that microphone during the drive through moments where people like who are to these value meals. [SPEAKER_01]: So I had to say like, which actually number one, you know, cheeseburgers are medium and fine. [SPEAKER_01]: I go like, you know, it'll help you today. [SPEAKER_01]: Game is complicated. [SPEAKER_01]: This confidence, I don't know. [SPEAKER_01]: You can live, work in a grocery store was back in grocery. [SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, you asked me a lot of people and kind of came out of my shell. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: I think that's, you know. [SPEAKER_00]: I love that. [SPEAKER_00]: My first job in college was Domino's Pizza. [SPEAKER_00]: So I mean, thank you for calling Domino's Pizza. [SPEAKER_00]: This is Rachel, how may I help you? [SPEAKER_00]: Wow. [SPEAKER_01]: It was fun. [SPEAKER_01]: I remember those days. [SPEAKER_01]: And then we moved to New York, like our second year college. [SPEAKER_01]: We moved from Texas drove three days to get to New York City. [SPEAKER_01]: And we stayed with our brother for like a couple of weeks. [SPEAKER_01]: So he would drive us to the transition to go to least shots for like three, four times a week to go to school. [SPEAKER_01]: And then we finally got an apartment. [SPEAKER_01]: That's one of the stories and so of how we found it. [SPEAKER_01]: And then we are first job in New York City together. [SPEAKER_01]: Who are, who are, who are, who are all girls? [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, how did that go? [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, wow. [SPEAKER_01]: We could money. [SPEAKER_01]: I think we did the day shift. [SPEAKER_01]: I remember that. [SPEAKER_01]: Like, ordering, you know, I don't know. [SPEAKER_00]: But we're people of noxious. [SPEAKER_00]: We're the guys of noxious are was so fun. [SPEAKER_01]: No, it was actually fun. [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like our time is fun. [SPEAKER_01]: Got out of our skin a little bit. [SPEAKER_01]: We didn't have the big boobs at the time. [SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, we were natural. [SPEAKER_01]: We were natural, but you ended up with who's that funny. [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it was just, I think that helped us get out of our, our company's own. [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, it gave us a little bit of confidence because we never really had boyfriends and stuff growing up. [SPEAKER_01]: So we were very shy, you know, didn't really like to show our bodies early. [SPEAKER_01]: We were much, we were much, we were much, we had tennis, like, we didn't even know we're bras, and then we're like bald. [SPEAKER_01]: So who did you get that job? [SPEAKER_01]: How did you get that role? [SPEAKER_01]: I remember actually say she kind of opened the door because she was dating Florian. [SPEAKER_01]: They met on Instagram. [SPEAKER_00]: Many, many years back. [SPEAKER_00]: And two thousand please. [SPEAKER_01]: You happen to watch the show or even in Connecticut at her mom's house. [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, this is so man-florian. [SPEAKER_01]: Like, yeah, we should sign up for it or something. [SPEAKER_01]: So I saw the email on an email then. [SPEAKER_01]: I was going to go visit him in Italy for like a month. [SPEAKER_01]: So I sent to email and I got a response right away. [SPEAKER_01]: But I went to Italy, so you had for the one, you had to have the, the key one. [SPEAKER_01]: Do you get off ready? [SPEAKER_01]: You already had to have a, we were just like dating at the time. [SPEAKER_01]: And I was trying to, I was like, what do you thinking? [SPEAKER_01]: That shows crazy. [SPEAKER_01]: What do you, what do you, what are you talking about? [SPEAKER_01]: You're going to ruin our brand. [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god, this is like insane enough. [SPEAKER_01]: Why would you want to do that? [SPEAKER_01]: I'll keep pleasure show. [SPEAKER_01]: But it's like, what are you, this is, this is what? [SPEAKER_01]: With worry in the twenty-something year old guy from Albania that you just kind of met? [SPEAKER_01]: Uh-huh. [SPEAKER_01]: So she ended up going, I stayed in Connecticut and I was just happy to be on some dating apps. [SPEAKER_01]: And I had met Jessie, the guy from Amsterdam. [SPEAKER_01]: And then for a few months, we were talking over the phone. [SPEAKER_01]: And then I somehow got something, it's down to a cafe called Facebook for a new spin-off for ninety-day. [SPEAKER_01]: It was called before the nineties, but she couldn't have met in person yet. [SPEAKER_01]: There's no key. [SPEAKER_01]: When these are, yeah, you're just dating. [SPEAKER_01]: You just haven't met in person. [SPEAKER_01]: I was like, oh, back of this one, B. So I wrote a letter and I got to call the next day. [SPEAKER_01]: pretty much got it pretty quickly after that. [SPEAKER_00]: No way. [SPEAKER_00]: All right. [SPEAKER_00]: So when you started filming and doing this, and then it's on air, how does your life change? [SPEAKER_00]: Was it pretty immediate? [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I think so. [SPEAKER_01]: It was once it started airing. [SPEAKER_01]: You know, obviously I didn't understand like how it was going to be aired, because we don't have any control that edits and stuff. [SPEAKER_01]: And everything about these films is very real and authentic. [SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, we're just [SPEAKER_01]: normal on camera. [SPEAKER_01]: You know, forget the cameras there have the time, but when it started airing, I was like, wow, it was like super huge ratings. [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like trying to do like, did you like how you were represented? [SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's me. [SPEAKER_01]: So it's like, however, it's edited, like you can't change how how that's done. [SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, there was something that we're hard to deal with was like watching back, like the hurt and the crying and the tears because I probably didn't know Jesse as well as I thought I did at the time. [SPEAKER_01]: And that's kind of what hurt the most, not being on Cameron showing my vulnerability and all that. [SPEAKER_01]: That's always gonna be me. [SPEAKER_01]: And that will never change, but I was like, wow, like he said that. [SPEAKER_01]: Like I can't believe it. [SPEAKER_01]: Like the other days, like, I love you. [SPEAKER_01]: I can't wait to make it. [SPEAKER_01]: You know, okay. [SPEAKER_01]: Hmm. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, my God. [SPEAKER_01]: That's what was hard. [SPEAKER_00]: So, Stacey, at first you were more in the background. [SPEAKER_00]: So, how did it feel to watch Darcy, you know, step into the spotlight before you enter the picture? [SPEAKER_01]: You know, I didn't mind it. [SPEAKER_01]: I just feel like we're on a journey together. [SPEAKER_01]: And what's meant to be will be, you know, there was kind of kept in contact with me and Florian and our relationship. [SPEAKER_01]: And it just happened. [SPEAKER_01]: At the right time, you know, Darcy and I she included me. [SPEAKER_01]: I always include her. [SPEAKER_01]: So I see it as a bad thing. [SPEAKER_01]: I just saw as like, that's our life and that's, it's okay. [SPEAKER_01]: And I was doing a support her and go through her her, you know, relationships and her ups and downs. [SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, when we got Darcy and Stacy, [SPEAKER_01]: You know, that's, that's what things kind of like really took off. [SPEAKER_00]: Right. [SPEAKER_00]: So, and then Darcy, I want to go back to you for one thing. [SPEAKER_00]: Your relationships on ninety day fiancee with Jesse Tom. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: Now into, um, Georgie, what is it like to see these breakups publicly play out and people get so involved emotionally. [SPEAKER_00]: what you're going through. [SPEAKER_00]: How does that feel? [SPEAKER_01]: Right. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going through all those relationships, the ups and downs, the good, the bad ugly. [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's what my life and dealing with that on and off camera. [SPEAKER_00]: Better to go through it, knowing other people are watching and doing it with you or is it terrible? [SPEAKER_01]: No, personally, for me, I feel like it's a form of therapy because I can kind of see where the relationship might have the red flags or where it's gone wrong or where it can get fixed. [SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, there's always been love and the relationships, but obviously, some of those relationships were meant to be and probably not the healthiest for me, obviously, but I've learned from those. [SPEAKER_01]: I've been able to feel and go through those journeys. [SPEAKER_01]: She got there with Stacy about myself to kind of dig deep to see, you know, [SPEAKER_01]: know what I truly want and deserve in life and you know having the fans come up and hug me and and say wow thank you for sharing your dream because it helps me as well so at the end of the day it's all worth it. [SPEAKER_00]: So you guys have so many fans it's incredible what was there a moment that you guys realized oh my god people are actually obsessed with the silver twins. [SPEAKER_01]: You know, it just kind of reminded us like growing up like where we're kids. [SPEAKER_01]: Like we come up to us and like take our picture. [SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, just feels natural to us. [SPEAKER_01]: We embrace it. [SPEAKER_01]: We love our fans. [SPEAKER_01]: We cry with them. [SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes they have this and they'll cry. [SPEAKER_01]: But you helped me in my situation. [SPEAKER_01]: My relationship. [SPEAKER_01]: It's very touching. [SPEAKER_01]: We love to take photos with people. [SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes they're like nervous to approach us. [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, hi, like I'll approach them. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: So you guys believe that interaction with fans is really important. [SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot of people in reality TV that, you know, acts like they're Angelina Jolie and they're like, don't talk to me. [SPEAKER_00]: But it's clear that you really love to interact with your fans. [SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely. [SPEAKER_01]: Yes. [SPEAKER_01]: And it happens internationally too. [SPEAKER_01]: We were in Dubai. [SPEAKER_01]: People were running after us in the mall. [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it was something that was actually the biggest fan we've ever met was Rihanna. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, she hugged us and everything. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: Did you flip out? [SPEAKER_01]: No, she went news she was there early in the evening when it's like the little fun hot spot. [SPEAKER_01]: I was sitting on the table from her. [SPEAKER_01]: She was surrounded by her security guards and got up to leave and her security by their life like that. [SPEAKER_01]: Like, oh, and then as she just instantly had done us and said, I love you girls. [SPEAKER_01]: Can you do what you're doing? [SPEAKER_01]: You're amazing. [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I will obviously watch you guys and just she's very sweet and we were like, and all pretty much. [SPEAKER_00]: And then she kind of knows she was a fan. [SPEAKER_01]: No, no, she was a fan. [SPEAKER_01]: We had seen her like sitting there eating with her friends and stuff, but like, [SPEAKER_01]: It was a very discreet way she did it. [SPEAKER_01]: It was very professional and just so super sweet and just we both so loved. [SPEAKER_01]: And it just we actually called her dad right away and we're like dad guess who we just met. [SPEAKER_01]: It's like, well, I've read on them. [SPEAKER_01]: And that's when we, that's when it kind of rang a bell and wow, we really made it. [SPEAKER_01]: We really are doing something in this world and we must be doing something positive. [SPEAKER_01]: So through all our ups and downs and our roller coaster relationships. [SPEAKER_01]: We're making an impact on the world. [SPEAKER_01]: It was very humbling. [SPEAKER_00]: I love that. [SPEAKER_00]: You guys are not just sisters, your best friends, your business partners and your reality stars. [SPEAKER_00]: So what's the best part and also the hardest part about living so much life together? [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, pretty much do everything in Tina, really. [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we got always having like your best friend there, always having somebody, you're never alone. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that heads a lot. [SPEAKER_01]: It's a whole lot of cry on or is, you know, do you have moments of bedding heads, bedding day doesn't last long. [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we trust each other, we believe in each other. [SPEAKER_01]: We want to, like, just shoot each other. [SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, there's, there's times when [SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's hard to live life together and the same thing at the same time, but at the same time, you know, this is all we know. [SPEAKER_01]: All we know really to be honest with you. [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, does it affect your relationship with men? [SPEAKER_00]: Do you think because a man probably feels like they can't break that barrier between the two of you? [SPEAKER_01]: That's how I respect our relationships. [SPEAKER_01]: But you know, the guys that we choose, they have to understand that bond and that connection. [SPEAKER_01]: And if we family oriented people like Jordan, Georgie and Florian, like they are Eastern European, they're very significant oriented so they get that bond. [SPEAKER_01]: You know, I know Florian, like he's really close to his sisters. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: Now, did you guys like each other? [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they get along most of the time. [SPEAKER_01]: We get along. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think they're like best friends, but you know, you guys aren't doing like for some trips together and we do a lot. [SPEAKER_01]: I think most of you more, the dynamic has changed now a little bit. [SPEAKER_01]: you know, we'll be able to talk about that later. [SPEAKER_01]: But right now, the dynamic has changed. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, somewhat. [SPEAKER_01]: But Stacy and I, you know, appreciate that the guys can kind of bond with us as well. [SPEAKER_01]: Would you trips together, we've, you know, worked together. [SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, they're loving our world. [SPEAKER_01]: They love to be a part of it. [SPEAKER_01]: And they get a chance to kind of do their own thing too. [SPEAKER_01]: Which is cool. [SPEAKER_00]: Got it. [SPEAKER_00]: Got it. [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. [SPEAKER_00]: We've seen fights, tears and makeup on screen between you two. [SPEAKER_00]: What's the biggest fight you've ever had with each other? [SPEAKER_00]: And how did you come back from it? [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, we've had a few fights. [SPEAKER_01]: Um, is there one that he's out? [SPEAKER_01]: Which one? [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know the biggest one. [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, there's petty fights over dumb stuff like clothes and stuff like that or just I think, you know, maybe one giving an opportunity that the other doesn't and you want to feel like you can help provide that there's like it's out of our control. [SPEAKER_01]: So it causes some tension and, you know, I wouldn't say jealousy or just just, you know, I mean, pretty much our biggest fights are in the ones that you see on TV. [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we kind of let it out. [SPEAKER_01]: You know. [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we have some. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, your dad, Mike, has become a fan favorite on the show. [SPEAKER_00]: How does he keep you grounded? [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, Dad, he sees all of us keep in his grounded. [SPEAKER_01]: He started my work with him. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's a bit, you know, we talked too much, you know, listen, oh, is that a listen? [SPEAKER_01]: You know, he, he just, like, certain things, you know, sometimes we're not always aware of. [SPEAKER_01]: So, right, it's just very grounded. [SPEAKER_01]: Yes. [SPEAKER_01]: And humble and things that we do. [SPEAKER_01]: And [SPEAKER_01]: He's right. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think, you know, we let the fame and stuff get to our head. [SPEAKER_01]: I think just, you know, he and he's us and humble us. [SPEAKER_01]: And if he needs to call us that on camera, he must help us. [SPEAKER_01]: Right. [SPEAKER_01]: The first one to call us out. [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. [SPEAKER_00]: What don't we see on camera? [SPEAKER_00]: Like, do you feel like everything that you live is in front of a camera? [SPEAKER_00]: What happens when the cameras are not rolling? [SPEAKER_00]: Tell us something we'll do now. [SPEAKER_01]: A lot of stuff happens when there's no cameras around. [SPEAKER_01]: That's why we need to cameras all the time. [SPEAKER_01]: No. [SPEAKER_01]: And they're all just stuff. [SPEAKER_01]: They're very dramatic stuff that are like mind blowing to the point where it's like, I can't believe this is going on. [SPEAKER_01]: We have each other to help to kind of get through those moments. [SPEAKER_01]: But a little incident in New York recently. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's to be continued I guess. [SPEAKER_01]: A lot of stuff. [SPEAKER_00]: Anything you could share like, do you sit around and watch Netflix together? [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, like, something that some that your fans wouldn't know about you off camera. [SPEAKER_00]: What do you guys like to do or travel? [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, we have to travel. [SPEAKER_01]: We go to Turkey. [SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, we do our search together. [SPEAKER_01]: So we love to travel. [SPEAKER_01]: We love to be back. [SPEAKER_01]: We did a little fun media tour. [SPEAKER_01]: We just got back in Turkey, not too long ago. [SPEAKER_01]: You know, they like to do our longevity treatments and our surgeries together. [SPEAKER_01]: And that's something that we do together. [SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, I feel like with the guys sometimes, you know, they get so low. [SPEAKER_01]: They feel like they miss out on some of the things that we do. [SPEAKER_01]: And it's like they're like the thirtwins. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, crazy. [SPEAKER_00]: So, all right, Darcy, can we talk about your relationship with Georgia a little bit? [SPEAKER_00]: I know on where we're at in the episodes, at least that I'm at. [SPEAKER_00]: You're preparing or have you gone now to see Georgia's family. [SPEAKER_00]: That's kind of where the seasons at. [SPEAKER_00]: Yes. [SPEAKER_00]: Can we talk about real time? [SPEAKER_00]: What's happening? [SPEAKER_00]: Or are you not allowed to talk about? [SPEAKER_01]: Um, I think they want to hold that for later, but you know, I can say, you know, yeah, I could use a little bit, you know, honestly, you know, we're a Connecticut, you know, visiting family and everything, but there are some things that have been brewing and, you know, in a different mind, like hearts they say right now with him, but we'll see what the future holds. [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so can you share a little bit about that anxiety? [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, everything that we're watching on TV right now about the anxiety going there, like the times that I've now caught up. [SPEAKER_00]: He's constantly talking to you about your eyelashes, your, you know, being over the top, whatever. [SPEAKER_00]: Like this, how to explain how that makes you feel. [SPEAKER_00]: Forget about the cameras and what we see, but like, was there a lot of anxiety going to travel there or were you like, they're gonna like me or they're not gonna like me on a really give a shot. [SPEAKER_01]: Traveling to Bulgaria was like one of the best things that I feel like I don't exist with Georgia and been home in a long time but for him to feel like he needs to change me as a person from you know the outside can't change that because it's like can't really get rid of the boobs maybe because it's on the left [SPEAKER_01]: and the nails, I didn't get that, but he knows who I am as a person, so it was a little bit like my boggling, and over a whole lot of times, so it's like, well, maybe there's some anxiety that you're having, and he's kind of projecting onto me, that's not the case, because it's like, I love why I don't, and I think your family's gonna love me, my kids are half-linguered, I've traveled to Europe many times, I know how to act in front of families, I don't project your thoughts and feelings onto me, your family love you regardless, so I feel like it was that anxiety he was having, [SPEAKER_01]: for himself, he needed someone to kind of blame. [SPEAKER_01]: And I feel like I get a lot of the blame a lot of times. [SPEAKER_01]: And it's like whenever I try to explain myself, you know, he's, he doesn't understand that. [SPEAKER_00]: You know, do you think there's any element to like, do you think he's embarrassed about the show at all? [SPEAKER_00]: Do you think he's embarrassed of you and how you come off to people? [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, the way it, some of where we're at now, it came off was like, [SPEAKER_00]: Why is he with her if he's embarrassed? [SPEAKER_00]: And that kind of made me annoyed for you. [SPEAKER_00]: Because I was like, is he doing this just because he's on a show or is he really into her? [SPEAKER_00]: Because if you think you are, he's not even looking at the eyelashes and the boobs. [SPEAKER_00]: That's if he really knows her. [SPEAKER_01]: Well, that's what I felt in the moment. [SPEAKER_01]: I was like, what do you embarrass me? [SPEAKER_01]: You do something because it's like, you know, at home, we're totally different. [SPEAKER_01]: But like on camera, why you act like that? [SPEAKER_01]: Like, that really threw me for a loop. [SPEAKER_01]: And I really have something because I was like, okay. [SPEAKER_01]: Here we go, because this is not okay, and I'm not gonna put up with that. [SPEAKER_01]: So, I mean, if you've got some insecurities, you gotta do it with that yourself, but like, it's just, it was very hurtful, and I just felt like, why are you acting like that? [SPEAKER_01]: Like, you should be embarrassingly. [SPEAKER_01]: I know how to carry myself. [SPEAKER_01]: I know who I am as a person. [SPEAKER_01]: You know, I love me. [SPEAKER_01]: I love us, and I love your family. [SPEAKER_01]: So, like, let that happen naturally. [SPEAKER_01]: Don't feel like you need to change myself to make yourself feel better. [SPEAKER_01]: And at times, it happened, especially when we filmed. [SPEAKER_01]: So, different, [SPEAKER_01]: wherever we got like he's different person when he's in Connecticut around my family's different when he's in Miami he's more flirting dirt you know ready to go for a journey or give an annual arc and Connecticut he's like you know you know it's just up that and you know loves my dad and wants to like that up with him and I'm just like [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, there's no consistency here and there's no transparency a lot of the time. [SPEAKER_01]: So they didn't waste me. [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm like, what are your motives here? [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: And I question a lot on an off camera, but there's never an answer. [SPEAKER_01]: So it's like, I'm playing the guessing game half the time. [SPEAKER_00]: Right, I understand. [SPEAKER_00]: And Stacy, your relationship with Florian has faced doubts and rumors, but it's you've been in our relationship for quite a while now. [SPEAKER_00]: And it's really stood the test of time. [SPEAKER_00]: What do you think has made that work? [SPEAKER_01]: Um, you know, we were like any other married couple. [SPEAKER_01]: We've been together ten years and we just like had our ups and downs. [SPEAKER_01]: Um, you know, obviously, it was a lot younger than me. [SPEAKER_01]: You know, when we first met and I just feel like now he's in his thirties, he's going through like some sort of like changing, you know, he's coming into his manhood or whatever you want to call it and, you know, I embrace that. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm happy for him. [SPEAKER_01]: I want him to live his dream life and do what he wants to do. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm his number one supporter and he'd be his cheerleader and, you know, I feel like the way we make it work is just, you know, we have to have each other's back. [SPEAKER_01]: You know, he supported me in my dreams and I'm here to [SPEAKER_01]: support him and his dreams. [SPEAKER_01]: You know, things have kind of taken a turn. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not saying, you know, it's always great because, you know, we are having some bumps in the roads. [SPEAKER_01]: Currently, but we just got back from Albania. [SPEAKER_01]: So that was a nice little trip. [SPEAKER_01]: There was a wedding in his family. [SPEAKER_01]: So we went there. [SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, we're just we're just taking day by day. [SPEAKER_00]: Well, let me just question. [SPEAKER_00]: Do you guys affect each other's relationship outcomes? [SPEAKER_00]: Like it sounds like [SPEAKER_00]: And I know you can't talk too much about it. [SPEAKER_00]: It sounds like you guys are in a little bit of a rocky place with both of your men. [SPEAKER_00]: So are you both like, if I had a twin sister, I'd be like, all right, let's be single for a little bit. [SPEAKER_00]: And let's go see. [SPEAKER_00]: Now that we're as famous as we are, let's go see who our hall pass guys are. [SPEAKER_00]: Let's see if we can do it. [SPEAKER_00]: Like who is your hall pass both of you? [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, who's that? [SPEAKER_01]: That actor guy's like hop, like a bottle that's fine. [SPEAKER_01]: Simon, Simon, something. [SPEAKER_01]: He's not that movie. [SPEAKER_01]: What's the name of the movie? [SPEAKER_01]: It's telling the, it's telling guy. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_01]: It's telling guy. [SPEAKER_01]: It's telling guy. [SPEAKER_00]: It's telling. [SPEAKER_00]: It's telling. [SPEAKER_00]: It's telling. [SPEAKER_01]: It's telling. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_01]: It's an actor. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_01]: After model is like on Instagram. [SPEAKER_01]: Very delete. [SPEAKER_01]: It's like drawing a little bit too. [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. [SPEAKER_00]: So you like that European look. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: Both have that. [SPEAKER_01]: You're kind of I like the Darcy who's yours. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of like this this crushed by with the name. [SPEAKER_01]: Nampton. [SPEAKER_01]: What's his name too. [SPEAKER_00]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_00]: You got a brains. [SPEAKER_00]: Right. [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my gosh. [SPEAKER_01]: I have it too. [SPEAKER_00]: Well, my, well, you're thinking mine would be Justin Bayman, who's super boring. [SPEAKER_00]: He's like all American, but super funny. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know, or Jason state them because he's hot. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think of who yours is. [SPEAKER_01]: Channing. [SPEAKER_01]: Channing. [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: He's honey. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: That's fine. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: And magic. [SPEAKER_01]: My. [SPEAKER_00]: Um, okay. [SPEAKER_00]: You guys have said that you are into the idea of a make under are we going to be doing that? [SPEAKER_00]: What? [SPEAKER_00]: What's the thought there? [SPEAKER_01]: I think our next ship to trick you'd be a definite make under. [SPEAKER_01]: I think we're looking a little copy of these. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to go down a size of two just to keep either on our feet, you know. [SPEAKER_01]: God. [SPEAKER_00]: Do you have your hair and be brown like are you still going to be blonde? [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't mind. [SPEAKER_01]: I was like, you know, brunette like a nice like that JLo kind of color. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: I think that you're really pretty. [SPEAKER_01]: You know, um, kind of, uh, over the black and blonde look. [SPEAKER_00]: Do you guys think whatever one of you does the other one will do or will you try and look different ever? [SPEAKER_01]: Um, we'll talk to you the same look most of the time. [SPEAKER_01]: They didn't look. [SPEAKER_01]: Do you like different things? [SPEAKER_01]: Like I probably, you know, [SPEAKER_01]: would go maybe a little less. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like more the blonde. [SPEAKER_01]: I like the blunts that took us forever to get this color, but, you know, I don't mind, you know, wearing a shorter cut at the Bob. [SPEAKER_01]: I think what's your natural color? [SPEAKER_01]: Blonde. [SPEAKER_01]: Like a, yeah, we dirty blonde. [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it is blonde. [SPEAKER_01]: We are chow heads growing up. [SPEAKER_01]: That's why we always get on the long, very blonde. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we get her color for coloring from [SPEAKER_00]: do you look at each other as a mirror? [SPEAKER_00]: Can you be like, oh, I don't like how that looks on her. [SPEAKER_00]: So I know that would look bad on me or I love that look. [SPEAKER_00]: Do you look at each other? [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, sure. [SPEAKER_01]: Especially after surgery is like, why does she have that and I don't know why why does it look like that? [SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, why looks a little different. [SPEAKER_01]: Like I feel like my filler looks a little different. [SPEAKER_01]: My face and her face like she's got more like the, you know. [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like my pointy chin is a little bit more. [SPEAKER_01]: And of dissolving all the fillers. [SPEAKER_01]: And then, you know, we did have a facelift. [SPEAKER_01]: So, you can give it a break and see how it looks if there's a lot of extra skin. [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe you can just pull it back a little bit more and call it a day. [SPEAKER_01]: Right. [SPEAKER_01]: Nice. [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. [SPEAKER_01]: I love it. [SPEAKER_01]: So we're just kind of like, I don't think we'll do anything out of the ordinary. [SPEAKER_01]: Then most fifty something you're all going to do. [SPEAKER_00]: I got it. [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm fifty two. [SPEAKER_00]: What's your, how are you dealing with metaphors? [SPEAKER_00]: It's something that no one wants to talk about, but now all of a sudden you see a lot of celebrities talking about it. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: We're all at that age. [SPEAKER_00]: So how is it affecting you guys? [SPEAKER_01]: It's a lot. [SPEAKER_01]: It's affecting us, but I feel it we're trying to, you know, start this longevity journey with the peptide and the vitamins and the meds. [SPEAKER_01]: So hopefully maybe that helps. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if there's anything else we can do for it, but [SPEAKER_01]: Um, you know, just kind of keep ourselves mindful and not stressed. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, situations with, you know, the guys or whatever, because it's probably affecting them too. [SPEAKER_00]: Right. [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: For sure. [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like men don't know how to deal with women. [SPEAKER_00]: They're going through pairing them. [SPEAKER_00]: I love it. [SPEAKER_00]: It's like a really difficult thing that is totally, you know, misunderstood people really get how hard it is. [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like I'm losing my mind now. [SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes I feel like I can't sleep well. [SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes I will flip out about the dumbest things. [SPEAKER_00]: And then the craziest things don't even bother me. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, you know, I think I think flooring didn't even know what that applause was. [SPEAKER_01]: He thought everybody gets it. [SPEAKER_01]: He's like, you're having, so he feels like you've got it. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: It's like I'm going to call the manopause. [SPEAKER_01]: Right. [SPEAKER_00]: Right. [SPEAKER_00]: Right. [SPEAKER_00]: Um, what do you guys think is the biggest misconception that people have about you guys? [SPEAKER_01]: Um, I think a lot of people think that, you know, you see, you can see your best friend, like, you know, we deserve love like everybody else at the end of the day. [SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, go get us. [SPEAKER_01]: We're smart, you know, we have, you know, um, we don't give a mission in life. [SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, we're not weak. [SPEAKER_00]: We're strong. [SPEAKER_00]: Right. [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. [SPEAKER_00]: So you guys did your series, Darcy and Stacey, or how many years was it now for? [SPEAKER_01]: For seasons. [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I'm assuming you're hoping that this season is going to happen. [SPEAKER_00]: What's the difference between what a fifth season would look like versus what you're doing now, which is the happily ever after, ninety days. [SPEAKER_00]: Yes. [SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's been a blessing to be able to go back to the franchise. [SPEAKER_01]: The ninety-eight shows, you know, we've done pillow talk. [SPEAKER_01]: We've done the ninety-eight. [SPEAKER_01]: Before ninety-eight is then she did last resort and now are on top of the ever after. [SPEAKER_01]: If we were to transition back into the nursing space, he'll flee soon. [SPEAKER_01]: You know, let's manifest that. [SPEAKER_01]: I think that would show a little bit more in depth what we go through on the daily basis. [SPEAKER_01]: Obviously more about both of our dynamics of the twins and the relationships with the guys. [SPEAKER_01]: And the kids more families of the kids are on college. [SPEAKER_01]: You know, maybe they can make it more like, you know, the Kardashians type of shackles are kids are growing up and there's so much going on in their lives that there'd be so much to film. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, right. [SPEAKER_00]: Right. [SPEAKER_00]: Would you guys do another kind of reality show like dancing with the stars, celebrity big brother? [SPEAKER_00]: Is there something that you guys really love that you want to do? [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, absolutely. [SPEAKER_01]: I think we would love to do damn people because stars are the traders and that's a fun show. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: I would be a great one for you guys to do. [SPEAKER_01]: I think you'll be really more into traders or you know, and you'll definitely open to them all. [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. [SPEAKER_00]: You have been through heartbreak, re-invention and huge success. [SPEAKER_00]: What do you want your daughters and your fans to take away from your journey? [SPEAKER_01]: I think at the end of the day, it's a blessing to be here to be able to share our journeys together and with our kids as well. [SPEAKER_01]: So these are two amazing plans on our lives. [SPEAKER_01]: My daughters are just amazing too, and we're just really excited for what their future holds. [SPEAKER_01]: want to stay as a tight net family is possible and just to really like build that legacy all together. [SPEAKER_01]: Never be on your dreams for the fans to watch that and feel like they could be a part of, you know, our journey so we could feel like we're a part of theirs. [SPEAKER_01]: You know, we just love sharing where we're given first. [SPEAKER_01]: Right. [SPEAKER_00]: So, let's say the season ends, ninety days if you don't say happily ever after. [SPEAKER_00]: We don't know what's happening with Darcy and Stacy. [SPEAKER_00]: What is the next thing on the bucket list that you guys really do want to do? [SPEAKER_00]: Like where will your life turn if you choose not to or you're not giving the opportunity to continue on TV? [SPEAKER_00]: What will your life look like then? [SPEAKER_01]: And I think our life would be going traveling to the House of Eleven going global, we would love to eventually make that to House of Eleven home, Zilla's really kind of global in that real estate. [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, last question, when people look back on Darcy and Stacey Silva, what do you hope that your legacy will be? [SPEAKER_01]: I think our legacy would be resilience. [SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, no, we're getting up and doing a big, you know, reach from the top of that mountain together. [SPEAKER_01]: Always keeping your eyes on the prize. [SPEAKER_01]: And the prize is whatever you want it to be. [SPEAKER_01]: So, just love, happiness, success, and to give it back in the world to others. [SPEAKER_00]: I love that. [SPEAKER_00]: All right, well, ninety-dated fiancee happily ever after. [SPEAKER_00]: Here's Sunday night's eight p.m. [SPEAKER_00]: on TLC, right? [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: And it's been such a pleasure meeting you guys. [SPEAKER_00]: I really wish you the best of luck. [SPEAKER_00]: And I will be watching to see how your life turns out. [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you so much. [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you so much for listening to Ms. [SPEAKER_00]: Understood. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm your host Rachel, you could tell. [SPEAKER_00]: Please be sure to subscribe to the show and give us a five-star rating and review. [SPEAKER_00]: You can support the show by joining our Patreon at Patreon.com slash Ms. [SPEAKER_00]: Understood with Rachel, you could tell. 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